A: YEAH

B: ANYWAY WHAT HOW DID WE EVEN END UP AT TWI OH YEAH BECAUSE OF THE TEAMS EH LET'S MOVE ON TO LIKE

A: MM HMM

B: WHAT WHAT ELSE UM I LIKE THINKING BACK TO HARRY POTTER YOU SAID YOU LIKED THE FIRST MOVIE I WOULD ACTUALLY SAY I I LIKED THE THIRD ONE THE BEST LIKE I FIND THAT

A: OH A LOT OF PEOPLE CHOOSE PRISONER

B: YEAH

A: OF AZKABAN

B: YEAH I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS THE MORE LIKE THE CLOSEST TO LIKE I MEAN THE FIRST ONE WAS OBVIOUSLY VERY CLOSE BUT I FEEL LIKE THE THIRD ONE CAPTURED THE WHAT IS IT CALLED UM THE AURA THE ENVIRONMENT

A: <NO-SPEECH>

B: THE I I DON'T KNOW JUST IT IT REALLY CAPTURED THE ESSENCE OF THE

A: MM HMM

B: BOOK REALLY WELL THAT'S PROBABLY JUST BECAUSE ALFONSO CUARON BUT

A: YES

B: BECAUSE THAT GUY'S BRILLIANT BUT IN GENERAL THAT WAS THE ONE THAT I REALLY LIKED UH AND THEN

A: I DON'T KNOW

B: IT JUST WENT DOWNHILL

A: NO I REALLY LIKED THE FIFTH ONE THE FIFTH ONE WAS REALLY NICE WITH LIKE BECAUSE ALSO BECAUSE LIKE I REALLY LIKE LUNA LOVEGOOD SHE'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE

B: OH

A: CHARACTERS

B: UH HUH

A: AND THE FIFTH WAS THE ONE LIKE IT WAS ALSO ONE OF THE SADDEST BOOKS BUT ALSO THE HAPPIEST BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS THERE LIKE THERE WAS REMUS THERE WAS SIRIUS THERE WAS LUNA

B: MM HMM

A: FRED

B: MM HMM

A: GEORGE EVERYONE LIKE THE WHOLE ORDER OF PHOENIX

B: YEAH IT WAS LIKE UH THE ONE HAPPY MOMENT BEFORE EVERYTHING WENT TO SHIT

A: EXACTLY THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM

B: THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM THAT MAKES SENSE UH I DIDN'T ACTUALLY

A: YEAH

B: ENJOY THE FIFTH ONE THAT MUCH TO BE HONEST I DON'T KNOW WHY THOUGH I THINK IT WAS JUST BECAUSE BY THAT TIME I HAD STOPPED REALLY LIKING THE ACTORS ALSO <DTMF>

A: AH

B: MAYBE

A: MAKES SENSE

B: I FEEL UM YEAH

A: I DID NOT LIKE UH PRISONER OF AZKABAN AT ALL

B: REALLY <LAUGH>

A: YEAH I DON'T KNOW LIKE THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS IS MY MOST HATED ONE

B: YEAH I DON'T LIKE CHAMBER OF SECRETS MYSELF

A: AND THEN PRISONER OF AZKABAN OR ALSO GOBLET OF FIRE

B: ALSO WHAT GOBLET

A: GOBLET OF FIRE

B: YEAH IN GOBLET OF FIRE SO I WAS SO ANNOYED AT THE FACT THAT THEY LIKE GOBLET OF FIRE WAS PROBABLY ONE OF MY FAVORITE BOOKS OUT OF THE SERIES <OVERLAP>

A: SAME SAME WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY

B: YEAH I THINK IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE WHOLE UH TRIWIZARD TOURNAMENT THE CHALLENGES

A: EXACTLY AND THE NEW SCHOOLS AND NEW

B: YEAH YEAH YEAH CHARACTERS

A: LIKE KNOWING THAT THERE ARE OTHER

B: YEAH

A: MAGIC MAGIC SCHOOLS

B: YEAH EXACTLY LIKE ALL OF THAT AND THEN UM WHAT IS IT CALLED AH AND THEN THE FACT THAT THEY JUST REMOVED EVERYTHING FROM THE MAZE LIKE I LOVED THE WHOLE MAZE

A: OH YES

B: OF THE TRIWIZARD TOURNAMENT AND

A: YEAH

B: REMOVED ALL THE COOL THINGS LIKE THE SPHINX AND EVERYTHING FROM THE MAZE AND THEY <OVERLAP>

A: YEAH

B: THIS WEIRD UH I DON'T KNOW AMERICAN DEEP SOUTH BODY HORROR <LAUGH>

A: YEAH ALSO LIKE THE WHOLE MEME ABOUT UM HARRY DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE

B: OH MY GOD DUMBLEDORE ASKED CALMLY

A: EXACTLY DUMBLEDORE ASKED CALMLY <LAUGH>

B: <LAUGH> LIKE IN THE MOVIE <DTMF> FLIES ACROSS THE ROOM SHAKES HARRY AND HE'S LIKE DID YOU OH RELAX

A: ANOTHER THING THAT I WILL NEVER

B: <OVERLAP> THIS MUCH EMOTION

A: FORGET IN THESE

B: AH

A: MOVIES IS THAT THEY PUT THE WHOLE BLAME ON SHAWSHANKS FOR LIKE FOR TELLING UMBRIDGE

B: ALL THE YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH WASN'T IT THE

A: <DTMF>

B: OTHER ONE THE MA MARIETTA

A: YEAH IT WAS SHAWSHANKS THEN SOME

B: EDGECOMBE SOMETHING SOMETHING SOMETHING

A: YES

B: HMM

A: BUT OBVIOUSLY THEY THEY DON'T SHOW HALF OF THE CHARACTERS AND SO

B: YEAH ALSO THEY TRIED TO

A: THE WHOLE

B: GET RID OF SHAWSHANKS SO THAT GINNY WOULD COME IN AS THE LOVE INTEREST

A: EXACTLY IN THE BOOK GINNY IS SO COOL MAN

B: OH EXACTLY

A: IN THE BOOK GINNY IS SO COOL BUT IN THE MOVIES THEY JUST SHOWN HER AS SOME IDIOT

B: YEAH

A: DUMB PERSON

B: YEAH I DON'T LIKE MOVIE GINNY AT ALL LIKE

A: THE BOOK GINNY WAS SO <OVERLAP>

B: IT'S A WATERED DOWN VERSION OF THE BOOK GINNY

A: <DTMF>

B: UH HUH

A: BOOK GINNY WAS AMAZING LIKE

B: YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH

A: SHE SHE WAS GOOD AT QUIDDITCH SHE WAS

B: YEAH

A: SHE KNEW HOW TO TACKLE ALL HER SEVEN BROTHERS

B: YEAH RIGHT LIKE SHE WAS GOOD AT BAT BOGEY HEXES <LAUGH>

A: EXACTLY SHE WAS GOOD AT THAT GOOD AT HEXES AND THEN SHE

B: YEAH I I FELT I DON'T KNOW LIKE AFTER SO I MEAN LIKE NOW I'M TALKING ABOUT HARRY POTTER LIKE THIS BUT GENERALLY AFTER THIS WHOLE DEBACLE WITH LIKE JK ROWLING I JUST

A: MM HMM

B: DON'T HAVE THE SAME SENSE OF CONNECTION WITH HARRY POTTER ANYMORE

A: I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THEY FOR ME YES AS A PERSON MAYBE JK ROWLING

B: MM HMM

A: IS BAD OR WHATEVER HER BOOKS ARE DIFFERENT LIKE

B: TRUE

A: <DTMF> OF THE AUTHOR IS <DTMF>

B: <LAUGH> YOU ARE A VERY VERY BAD PERSON BUT OKAY

A: <LAUGH> NO SERIOUSLY I MEAN BOOKS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THEY HAVE GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH

B: WITH

A: JK ROWLING OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT SHE WROTE IT

B: MMM

A: IT'S SEP IT'S SEPARATE FROM HER

B: FAIR ENOUGH BUT YEAH I MEAN I DON'T THINK LIKE I HAVE THE CAPACITY TO COMPLETELY DIFFERENTIATE THE ART FROM THE ARTIST SO

A: OH

B: <OVERLAP> LOSE INTEREST IN THINGS LIKE IN ART WHEN THE ARTIST

A: YEAH

B: <NO-SPEECH> GOOD PERSON SO THAT AND ALSO BECAUSE OF COURSE LIKE MY FAVORITE WHAT DO YOU CALL IT UM MY FAVORITE BOOK HAS ALWAYS BEEN LORD OF THE RINGS SO

A: AH

B: LIKE YOU REALLY

A: WHAT WAS THE FIRST SERIES YOU'VE READ

B: THE FIRST SERIES I'VE READ A LOT ACTUALLY BUT MAYBE MAYBE NARNIA I THINK THE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA PROBABLY

A: IT WAS YOUR FIRST

B: I AM NOT SURE LIKE THE THE THAT WAS THE ONE THAT I REMEMBER BECAUSE I READ C S LEWIS WHEN I WAS REALLY YOUNG LIKE I WAS NINE

A: EXACTLY

B: OR SO I THINK SO

A: YEAH

B: I'M I'M SURE I WOULD HAVE PROBABLY READ OTHER STUFF BEFORE LIKE I READ A LOT OF YOU KNOW THE FAMOUS FIVE SECRET SEVEN

A: OH YES YES

B: LIKE THAT ALL THAT BUT

A: NANCY DREW

B: NANCY DREW HARDY BOYS BUT WHEN I READ

A: <DTMF>

B: SERIES OH OH YOU REMEMBER THE ENID BLYTON THE SCHOOL UM WELL SCHOOL SERIES MALORY TOWER ST CLARE

A: OH YES YES YES YES YES YES

B: YEAH

A: YES

B: THAT I FEEL LIKE IF I IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT UH LIKE SERIES IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THEN I WOULD SAY THAT THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT I READ SIXTH <OVERLAP>

A: NO MINE WAS ERAGON THE

B: AH

A: THE FIRE DRAGON

B: ERAGON YEAH YEAH YEAH OH

A: ERAGON

B: I I READ THAT ACTUALLY REALLY LIKE SURPRISINGLY I READ ERAGON REALLY LATE LIKE WHEN I WAS EVEN PERCY JACKSON FOR EXAMPLE LIKE THESE ARE THE BOOKS THAT YOU'RE

A: <NO-SPEECH>

B: READING IN LIKE YOUR PRETEENS RIGHT BUT

A: YEAH

B: THEN I HAD NEVER LIKE NOBODY LIKE HAD EVER GIVEN THESE TO ME WHEN I WAS AT THAT AGE

A: YES

B: AND SO I ENDED UP READING THEM AT LIKE SEVENTEEN EIGHTEEN AND I DIDN'T LIKE THEM AT ALL

A: OH

B: ERAGON SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT WAS VERY SIMILAR TO LORD I MEAN PAOLINI CHRISTOPHER PAOLINI HIMSELF SAID THAT HE

A: YEAH

B: <OVERLAP> INSPIRATIONS FROM THE LORD OF THE RINGS

A: YEAH

B: AND SO BECAUSE I HAD READ THE LORD OF THE RINGS FIRST THEN ERAGON JUST SEEMED LIKE THIS WATERED DOWN COPY AND I WAS LIKE OKAY I DIDN'T ENJOY THAT THAT MUCH

A: AH

B: SAME WITH PERCY JACKSON LIKE I THINK JUST BECAUSE I HAD CROSSED THE AGE FOR

A: EXACTLY

B: YEAH I DIDN'T ENJOY IT WASN'T IT THE SAME FOR YOU

A: NO UM I READ I STARTED WITH ERAGON AND I READ IT IN FIFTH LIKE WHEN I WAS IN FIFTH STANDARD

B: MM HMM

A: AND THEN I THEN I STARTED HARRY POTTER THEN HUNGER GAMES THEN THE DIVERGENT SERIES AND LIKE THEN TWILIGHT

B: OH

A: IT WAS A BACK TO BACK SERIES

B: <LAUGH> MM HMM THAT MAKES SENSE YEAH BUT ACTUALLY I'M PRETTY MUCH SAME LIKE WHEN THESE ONES WERE ANYWAY COMING OUT WHEN WE WERE LIKE FIFTEEN SIXTEEN RIGHT

A: YES I WHEN I READ HARRY POTTER I WAS ELEVEN LIKE I STARTED HARRY POTTER WHEN I WAS

B: HARRY POTTER

A: ELEVEN AND BY THE TIME

B: AH

A: I FINISHED IT LIKE

B: YEAH

A: UH BECAUSE IT WAS DIFFICULT TO ARRANGE BOOKS AT THAT TIME I COULD NOT FIND ALL THE BOOKS AT ONCE

B: UH HUH

A: SO LIKE I HAD TO GIVE GAPS EVEN THOUGH I DID NOT REALLY WANT TO