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[ "Good afternoon to our friends in the south, just sending this message to open a channel for future relations when ever they need to happen, and to say 'howdy and have a good game' to you.", "Of course! I thank you very much. The future of the Kaissereich and its effect on my neighbors will be very important to me, so tell me if you want help to dissuade attack.", "Well, should the French turn out to be a thorn in my side I would greatly appreciate the aid", "Greetings from new Italy!", "Would just like to reiterate that Italy would likely take an opportunistic stance towards France - their defensive position is strong enough that I won't attack them proactively, but if they are locked into a conflict with you I might stab them", "So in that sense Italy is broadly friendly to your interests - if you and France are allied I will leave you alone, but if France is your enemy I could potentially help you to break a stalemate", "But what I'd need in exchange is for you to keep me posted on developments in the west. Are you leaning towards working with England, or France?", "It seems for the moment that both are cooperative, but I'm likely to side with the French from the outset barring difficulties with them. I'll keep you posted, same relationship as previously established. In any case, friendship with the French is not very likely to last past England's demise so I'll definitely need the help then. Thank!", "Makes sense. Hopefully I'll be on the winning side of a conflict against Turkey or Austria by then, which should put us in position to squeeze France", "I'd greatly prefer you end up on Austria's side of that conflict all things considered, but if things don't go his way I wouldn't blame you for siding against them.", "Definitely understandable. But since Italy starts off as one of the weaker countries, I basically need to play a little opportunistically", "The elephant in the room is Russia - would you have any insight on what they're planning?", "Unfortunately we only talked very briefly about staying out of each other's ways.", "Haha didn't try to hold Sweden hostage to get him to play nice with Austria? That's my usual go-to as Germany lol", "Have you talked more with Austria? I must admit to being concerned about you moving to Tyrolia in their defense", "Since that would allow the two of you to launch a pretty credible attack on Venetia", "As Germany I generally play somewhat more careful, get them to just promise not to be an enemy until the Western Triple becomes a Western Double. As far as Austria goes, we're allied, hence my preference for Turkey being your foe rather than them. I've no intent of turning South though, not by any means. Don't have the pieces for that.", "Yeah, fair enough. I'm planning on a pretty standard opening to Ionian Sea, aiming to convoy to Tunis and with a bounce in Austria", "It's a pretty noncommittal move, so will wait and see how things play out", "But I'm sure nobody will miss the fact that it sets me up for the Lepanto if the cards fall that wau", "Well the Lepanto setup is generally considered Italy's best opener, regardless of whether they trust Austria, hard to argue with a classic.", "It's looking like the Russians and the Turks are trying a Juggernaut.", "If they do that, we desperately need to be strongly allied with the Austrians, otherwise they'll roll us over, hard.", "I am also concerned about the Juggernaut, which pushes me towards you and Austria's camp", "It seems France and England are at a loggerhead already, so if you side with England it might be an opportunity for me as well", "Our interests are aligned in both sides of the map, so let's just coordinate closely", "I'd be more comfortable committing both fleets east to support Austria against Turkey if I knew you were going to Burgundy (which makes it harder for France to convoy to Tuscany)", "France's F Marseille is a major headache for me", "What say you?", "France is definitely going to be a thorn in your side, unfortunately I can neither afford to attack them right now nor likely convince them to not attack you, they're more powerful than I am and I've already pissed off two of my three potentially unfriendly neighbors.", "The Balkan Front is pretty secure for you two though, you can at least hold and with some tricky maneuvering, very easily begin advancing through the Turks.", "Understood. Know that Austria and Italy are not going to be able to hold out against Russia and Turkey", "If you want to prevent a juggernaut, we will need whatever help from you we can get", "Well, as I'm sure you've noticed, I've mobilized for the task.", "I've talked to the French to try and get them off your back, but they're dedicated to seeing you off. They told me to tell you that they plan to attack Piedmont with support, which indicates that they're probably planning a convoy to Tuscany. You can't let that happen.", "Well, it seems the attack on Piedmont with support was genuine, which seems like a very poor decision by the French", "Yeah, maybe they predicted that you'd think they were lying to me? Regardless, bad move on their part in any case, especially since you have a build.", "Good news for you though. A distracted France is still more than enough firepower to get you through England, and it makes it easy for you to stab them after", "I don't know whether you deliberately leaked me that intel thinking I would disbelieve it and go to Tuscany, but no hard feeling if so", "That's jsut well played", "It certainly does, I wish they'd let you get on with destroying the Turks so you could focus fire on them when it's needed but still. And I gave you that information because I genuinely thought that their objective would be to get you to expect what they told me to tell you so they could do something else. Was worried that they'd do the convoy because that would be devastating for you.", "Haha honestly that risk was very top of mind for me, since I attempted the same convoy as France in the previous game", "So would likely have made the risk averse move to avoid the convoy even without the warning", "Yeah, it's a real power-move as the French to pull off that convoy.", "Well, it didn't work for me either", "Well, experienced Italys generally see it coming.", "Indeed.", "I'm trying to do damage control with the Austrians. It was incredibly damaging for them to do that and I can't imagine why they've decided to side with the Turks rather than you. If it doesn't work out, I'm going to go nuclear and split them lengthways with the Turks.", "I was taken very surprised in large part because I didn't see - and still don't see - what they stand to gain", "And if they really stand to gain ground, why not make a play for Venice?", "No idea, the y apparently aren't interested in working with you anymore. I'm quite frankly pulling my hair over this, it's the worst possible move.", "I find myself very confused by it as well, which is part of why I am not quite sure how to respond", "Would you be willing to coordinate against A Tyrolia? I'd be happy to support A Munich in", "I'm afraid that if I do that, my current position could quickly become untenable. I'm worried that the Austrians are planning something funky.", "Alright, so, I realize that this is a little bit late, but now that the Austrians are embroiled with the Turks, I am moving against the French. I'm trying to convince the Austrians that its in their best interests to join back with you, but I would understand if you might resent him or both of us for our failure to consistently side with you.", "You stabbing the French is already a massive lifeline to me. I could not in good conscious ask you to do more", "I will listen to what Austria has to say, and keep you updated on that front. I do not really trust them, but I may still be willing to work with them against the Turks if they say the right things", "I'm moving on the French this next season, hopefully they'll pull back to face me and you and the British will be able to surge back against them.", "I'm pleasantly surprised that you're so willing to work with England as well", "In that case i'll play defensively but try to set myself up for a counteroffensive", "Well the English are a little miffed that I didn't move last season, but still, I see no reason not to work with them for the time being.", "Yeah, agreed. The English are too desperate to turn down your support", "Conversely, you have a free walk into Paris right now", "Since France has only fleets", "A Mun - Bur and then to Paris is guarrenteed to succeed as long as you can cover a potential stab on Mun, which you could easily do with A Ber", "And then A Hol-Bel isn't quite as foolproof, but is pretty safe as well", "Especially if you support yourself into NTH and move Kie - Hol", "If you're wondering who convinced the French to make it a fleet, you need go no further", "Well, sounds like things are in good shape!", "Hopefully the French are sufficiently distracted that you can launch a counter attack.", "Yeah, I'll make the most of this", "The Austrians wouldn't happen to be talking about me, would they?", "I haven't heard anything from them", "Well, at the very least that's good. I'm worried about them potentially deciding that they want Warsaw, despite the fact that I'm on the right side of a stalemate line where they'd only get 1 supply center if they attacked.", "Are you coordinating with the Turks? I think that for the time being that would be a good idea.", "Yeah, am trying to do so", "Not to be needy or anything, but I would greatly appreciate a hard move for Venice this next year.", "I will make a play for Venice this Fall", "If I was in Austria's shoes, I would do a self bounce of F Ven - Tri, A Ser - Tri", "So I plan to do F Alb S F Ven - Tri, A Apu - Ven", "Odds of succeeding in this improve dramatically if also support with A Tyr S A Apu - Ven - would you be willing to do so?", "Gas and Bur likely cannot take Mar anyways, so in my view you would be better off using:\nA Par & A Pic S A Gas - Bre\nF NTH S F Bel - ENG\nA Bur - Mun", "This would be a near-guarantee that you take Brest and would occupy F ENG as a consolation prize in the only outcome where you didn't, while still covering Munich", "My only problem with that plan is that it risks losing Burgundy if the French pull a fast one and go for Silesia instead, while moving Marseilles into Burgundy.", "That's a valid point. My view is that A Mar - Bur is unlikely but A Boh - Sil is a real risk", "If you want to keep France out of Bohemia, A Gal is the only unit you have that can do so", "Which might be a better investment that using it to try and snipe Bud", "Although actually, if you hit Vienna and France has two disbands, they may struggle to keep up the pressure around Silesia", "That's true, I don't know if I want to take my chances with that though.", "I'll probably move into Vienna, but I'm not sure I can afford to move out of Burgundy.", "Understood, So then you would use A Gal to cover Warsaw, A Bur to cover Munich, and then try to snipe Vienna with A Tyr?", "Correct" ]
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[ "How’s it going Italy?", "Relatively well. I'm doing a small concert soon, so kind of nervous, honestly. How about you?", "I'm assuming we can both agree to a nonaggression pact, and that you too were told to Lepanto the Turks (though I'm not sure if its a good idea)?", "We're the only ones I trust to understand how unlikely a Solo is, and you seem interested in cooperation, so I'll honestly put all my chips under your bag and defend you until the end if you're willing to do the same with me.", "At the very least, we can give one hell of a ride.", "I haven’t been told to do a Lepanto yet, who said that? And yes I would like peace on our front, I could have a three front war at any time so it would be great if you and I did not fight. Where would you expand to then?", "I will be moving into Ven with Tri (traditional Austrian opening) and fully understand that you would go Ven to Tri as a response so that we bounce. If you can come up with a good alternative then I am fine with that but I don’t see one.", "I am perfectly comfortable with a Ven-Tri bounce, so no need for further discussion on that point. Would like to suggest that we demilitarize Tyrolia, at least for year one as well", "Would like to get your thoughts on your other moves? Is A Budapest going to Serbia, and is A Vienna going to Galicia or allowing Russia in?", "Okay the bounce sounds good. And I would love to demilitarize Tyr for this year and we can talk about it again then", "Why do you need my moves?", "I think in general it pays to know as much as possible about what everyone is doing. Even if they lie, it helps you get an early picture on who is trustworthy :p", "But I think the Austria Italy relationship is bigger than that", "Austria and Italy are two countries which can easily fall into a mutually destructive war until they both get eaten by Turkey", "But it's also very hard for us to trust each other, since it's so easy to stab. That's a big part of what makes these two countries so challenging for a lot of players, right?", "In that sense, it helps for us to be open with each other. It's a very different game for me if Russia gets into Galicia early, putting them and Turkey in place to roll the map, compared to if you and Turkey push Russia out of Rumania in year one", "In that context, I'm pretty comfortable telling you that I don't plan to get greedy in year 1 - as long as I can secure Tunisia while keeping a secure defensive position, I'm happy", "I 100% do not want to fight you. I agree that Austria Italy is a war that often happens but never really works out for either side. We would just stagnate until russia or turkey or both took us out.", "On that note I have heard rumors that turkey and Russia are gonna go for a juggernaut. If that is the case I’d assume you would help me slow them down.", "Probably don’t need to point this out but you allying with turkey would eventually lead to him attacking you unless you stabbed him first", "Definitely agree that, assuming we can trust each other, the Austria-Italy alliance tends to be more stable than the Austria-Turkey one", "Turkey and Russia bounced in the Black Sea, but that proves little since Juggernaut allies often go for that anyways", "Russia has committed pretty hard to the south, which is mildly concerning for both of us. In the event that the Juggernaut materializes however, my sense is that Germany would also be willing to support us", "I guess for this year, suggest that we do the Ven-Tri bounce again. I would suggest to keep Turkey out of Greece and use Vienna to defend against Russia.", "I will convoy A Apulia to Tunisia", "All sounds good to me", "Have you talked to turkey much?", "Not a whole lot. Their move to the Black Sea was news to me", "So turkey went back on their deal with me and tried to let russia get rum while they snuck into Gre. Juggernaut confirmed", "I’d like to propose that you and I go full alliance", "I'm game for the Lepanto, and it seems Germany is on board as well", "What does that look like in practice? Germany builds in Berlin, you in Budapest", "And then hit Rumania in Spring?", "Not positive what I would do yet but something along those lines. You would definitely build a fleet in Nap and then move ION to EAS", "France and Turkey are trying to get me to attack you, obviously I will not do that", "With the build in Marseilles, France's goals are quite transparent", "Turkey will likely bounce me in EAS. Would you be willing to support me into Greece (via convoy)?", "From there, I can support you into Bulgaria", "I’m willing to debate it but I had a different view on this turn. I figured he would bounce you in EAS but what if you went for AEG instead? Unless you’re worried about over extending yourself due to France. Because I trust you enough at this point to move Tri to Alb and then we will definitely be able to get Gre in the fall.", "Which makes going to AEG/EAS a bit of an overstretch", "If we can get Germany on board I'd feel a lot more comfortable with committing east", "Sorry, some connection issues on my end so messages sent out of order", "But basically I'm concerned about France's F Marseille, so a little nervous about committing both fleets east", "But I think having Germany attack France would ease that", "So in theory if we could not get germany to attack France, what kind of attack would you be comfortable with us making", "In which case convoying onto Greece is the best use of the fleet and army I'd have available", "Okay I will support that, can you move out of Ven?", "So I am in a slightly sticky situation but I think I can get out of it. If I support you holding in Gre then would you move that fleet into EAS?", "Also Germany and France are allied, however Germany is also willing to help us out", "Let me know what you’re thinking", "Germany and France allying is not ideal for me, but I feel confident in observing that Turkey and Russia are allied as well", "So desperate times call for desperate measures - may need to do what needs to be done to stop the juggernaut", "Would appreciate you helping me to hold in Greece, and we'll need whatever help from Germany that we can get", "I can still support A Serbia - Buglaria as well, if that helps", "Look at the moves from last turn, turkey tried to support me attacking Russia. Why do you think they are still allied?", "To put it simply, I missed that. I find Backstabbr's map interface hard to read, and didn't see it in the list of orders", "Which I will look at more carefully going forward", "I gotcha, so you are clearly going after Turkey right now but have to deal with France. What’re you thinking in regards to that whole situation. Because I have to figure out whether or not I can use turkey as a short term ally vs Russia", "However I view you as my most important ally which is why I’m asking you about all this", "I have moved against Turkey, but I am willing to back down to focus on France", "If you would rather coordinate with Turkey against Russia, I'm open to the idea of a southern triple as Turkey suggested", "I mean turkey knows that you and I are allied so I think that if you attack him then he will attack me. I don’t really wanna fight him and russia at the same time", "Do you think you can gain supply centers vs France? I get that you need to expand somewhere", "What’re you thinking for this season", "I most likely can't gain a supply center this year, but I should be able to gain ground as long as neither you nor Turkey stab me", "My thinking is that I'll go with the conservative option", "Which is:\n F TYS S F Rome - Tus\nA Tus - Ven", "And then withdraw F EAS - ION", "Should put me in position to push through WES starting fall while covering all my bases defeinsively", "That all seems logical", "What are you thinking? F Alb S A Gre H would be appreciated in my perspective", "Neither of us have a good reason to stab you, we gotta focus on russia", "Yeah, naturally. I'm concerned about what Turkey will do once Russia is defeated, but that's a question for another day", "I’ll do that, it keeps turkey from snagging Gre", "Do you have Germany on your side as well?", "So am I, I’d expect they go through me before they go through you. That is why I need you", "Turkey has Sev in their pocket, which might open up a path to Moscow", "For now, he supported me into War which is nice so I will keep working with them", "But they might want it for themselves", "That is true", "Makes sense. Keep me posted", "Will do, we gotta take another russia center this year", "Not immediately relevant to us, but I feel like Sweden will be interesting too", "Just because Russia has a good shot at holding it if they can play England and Germany against each other", "Yeah I reached out to england to see what they think about all of this", "England seems to be a bit pessimistic, which is probably justified facing a France-Germany coalition", "Although the fact that France is quite committed in the south and Germany in the east improves their position a lot", "So, about this whole Greece affair", "Understandably you would be mad at me about it. I honestly just felt like I could use it better than you could.", "I realize that sounds rude", "At least you have that much self-awareness. We opened this game stating that conflict between Italy and Austria is usually self-defeating, but it is hard for us to trust each other", "Now that you have betrayed that trust, I don't really see a path forward away from that mutually destructive conflict", "Understandable", "So, you are now in conflict with all three of your allies", "All three of your neighbors", "France may defeat me, but most likely you wouldn't see any centers from that, and you won't win against Turkey and Germany", "I don't trust you enough to seek an alliance, but wouldn't a ceasefire be mutually beneficial?", "Both of us have our backs against the wall", "Yes a cease fire sounds perfect, I need to handle Turkey.", "I understand why you don’t trust me, however notice that I have not helped France and don’t actually want to see you off the board", "Of course a cease fire is mutually beneficial enough that I'd have little doubts", "But that said, if you want to win back my trust, supporting me into Venice would be a great start", "With:\nA Vie - Tyr\nF Tri S A Rom-Ven", "I would be guarrenteed to take it, with no sc downside risk to you", "So, about your move to the Ionian?", "Turkey refuses to work with me", "Well, that's good news for me, if you don't mind me saying so", "Lol yeah I know", "Well done on slipping into Serbia", "I assume you aim to push further in the Balkans?", "Not really sure yet, I think this game is a lost cause for me", "Not sure if now is the right time for \"told you sos\", but my statement that Italy-Austria conflict would ultimately lead to both of us going down seems pretty on the mark right now", "Hahahahaha", "I suck as Austria", "To be fair, Austria is one of the harder countries on the map", "You basically need to play both sides with Russia and Turkey just to have a chance at winning", "Even if you're only aiming for second place or to survive and draw, you need to pick your partners well", "Haha I appreciate it, Italy is obviously hard as well. I have a weird affection for playing it though", "So,, this is the point in the game where you probably need to start thinking about your goals", "If your goal is to survive, you would be best placed in going into Moscow and then slipping into Scandinavia", "Germany has pivoted strongly west, so they would not easily retake it", "And a draw would likely be Germany plus whatever opposing alliance - occupying German territory would make you a key part of that draw alliance", "Alright, here's an offer", "If you can capture St Petersburg from Germany while holding on to Moscow", "And that enables us to stalemate against Germany", "We can include you as one of the survivors in the draw", "I can probably get Turkey on board for this, France would have no choice but to accept", "Yeah I’m gonna try and stop germany", "Understood. I will stay out of Budapest. You should be able to get a build there from taking Warsaw and Vienna", "Would A Vienna be able to support me into Tyrolia?", "Would be going from Trieste. Venice will also support", "Yes I will" ]
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[ "Hello :). How goes the mighty Tsar?", "Hi Italy, hope you're doing well! Where are you planning to head first?", "Greetings, Russia, this is the new Italy", "This will sound like flattery, but I feel like Russia is the one country Italy cannot offend. An Italy/Turkey alliance cannot defeat Russia and Austria, and similarly Italy and Austria cannot defeat Russia and Turkey unless Germany joins as well", "So rather than deciding whether I want to attack Austria or Turkey, I'd want to Target the same one as you", "Attacking France early is a fool's errand", "Oh shucks, so much flattery right out of the gate.", "It's pretty neutral with both so far - perhaps you're leaning one way right now?", "Hahaha Italy is one of the weaker powers on the board. I need to be proactive in seeking allies, even if it means accepting being the junior partner. And Russia is the natural first choice", "Between Austria and Turkey, I haven't had a lot of time to talk to either yet so don't have a clear sense on who would make a better ally", "Austria has been playing his hands close to his chest, while Turkey is from my home town. But you don't do well in Diplomacy by relying on those kinds of calculations", "lol usually not - Where are you looking to focus for now?", "As is often the case for Italy, I want to avoid commitment for now and see how the bigger fish play before making my move", "It seems there's some hostility between you and Germany?", "Am also curious if Turkeys move to Black Sea was arranged, or if it also hostile", "arranged!", "Understood!", "So, things probably haven't been going to plan for either of us", "But Austria serves as a common enemy", "What's your plan for A Galicia?" ]
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[ "Hows everyones favorite Geopolitical Powerhouse?", "💪", "feeling grand. Not sure if we directly impact each other for a while but we both border people who do. I still haven't decided what i'm going to do but knowing if you'll be opening against france or not will help me figure it out.", "Greetings from new Italy! Would love to get your thoughts on France and Germany", "Italy typically wants to involve itself more on the Eastern triangle, but it still borders both", "In the west, I am likely to play as an opportunist - if you ally with one against the third, I will help the two of you for a center or two, but otherwise I won't get involved", "So I guess you can view me as a resource in that sense", "Well considering the opening, I’d say I’m anti France. I will be working with Germany against France. Pressure in piedmont and Med would be appreciated. You’re bound to pick up a few dots if Germany and I work well against France.", "Makes sense. I'll check with Germany, but should be on board", "I'm getting the feeling that a GF is forming against me. what have your conversations been like with Germany?", "Most of my conversation with Germany has centered around the possibility of a Russia Turkey juggernaut, which they seem quite concerned about", "If you help then against Russia, that might put you on better terms", "I am having trouble trusting Germany although without that trust the jug will be unstoppable", "I'm pretty mad at France as well after they built a fleet in Marseilles", "does that mean you'll be moving in?", "Not sure yet, need to see. I'd really like to, but sending F Nap - to TYS also weakens my position in the east a lot", "Kind of want to see what Germany says", "It seems that France is a mutual enemy for us", "Not sure how much we can coordinate at this stage, however", "Agreed. Let’s just give it our best. I’m also up against Germany and Russia seems to be inept.", "You didn't hear this from me, but it seems the Germany-France alliance is breaking down", "It could be a chance for you to play them against each pther" ]
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[ "And how is the mighty Sultan today?", "I’m doing great! Just wrapped up a long weekend at a con. How’re you?", "Pretty good, just finished Volunteering with some (physically) disabled kiddos, absolutely unprepared for the mountain of homework I'm somehow staying on top of. What Con was it?", "It was “Whose Turn is it Anyway?” in Durham.", "I think Turkey and Italy can work together as long as Turkey doesn’t build a lot of fleets. I would like to not have to build a lot of fleets. Are you comfortable not putting fleet pressure on me? It frees you up for other things ... maybe an early go against France or an Austrian sandwich?", "A. Seems like it was great!", "B. I'm fine if you don't want to build fleets. It would be interesting (and powerful for you) if we had a infantry-naval power dynamic, but I understand if thats uncomfortable to you. I was planning on going all out with Naval Power, but I think our alliance could be really important depending on how things swing, so I'll accept cutting back.", "Greetings from new Italy. Also was scanning the previous messages and noticed you were in Durham.. is that Durham England or Durham NC?", "But yeah I am largely aligned with the previous player's view that Turkey and Italy can make for a great alliance as long as Turkey is more army focused", "NC. And great to hear!", "Where are you from?", "Haha I went to school in Durham NC!", "I've moved out of the country now though. Spent the last two years in Hong Kong, and in Brussels right now", "Small world haha", "But yeah, game-wise I aim to be pretty defensive year one. If I secure Tunisia, I'm happy.", "Austria has been really cagey with me, which probably means they have a plan and I'm not a part of it. Might be good news for you, or might not, depending on whether you've reached an understanding with them or not", "Good to know! I haven't set anything in stone with him. I like to send both my armies north as Italy, everyone wants to talk to me in Fall '01, that's for sure.", "Out of curiosity, how is your relationship with Russia? I assume the bounce in Black Sea was pre-arranged?", "Also, how is Durham these days?", "Durham is amazing. The city has really gone through a transformation! Have you played in any European face-to-face Diplomacy events or are you only an online player?", "Black Sea was prearranged.", "Ok. Austria is out of position and only gets one build. Would you like to work together and take him down?", "I've played face to face with IRL friends, but never gone to a face to face event with serious players", "Makes sense that Black Sea was prearranged - are they on board with occupying it now?", "I'd be willing in principle to attack Austria, but want to check what Russia has to say as well", "Not sure. Need to talk with him.", "(that was wrt to the black sea bounce).", "Yeah, fair enough", "I would be so happy if your fleet went to Adriatic this Spring ... 🙂 can we find a peace in the mediterranean?", "Russia building in Moscow makes me think that he isn't worried about Austria. An Austria-Russia collaboration isn't good for me, and it probably isn't the best thing for you in the long run. Thoughts?", "Agree that I wouldn't want to see a Russia-Austria collaboration, but not sure if I'd make too much of it", "After being kept out of Sweden, it's natural for Russia to feel that they need to invest more in the north", "Currently, France's fleet Marseille is a big headache for me", "But if you're willing to support me into Greece (which would be done by convoy), I could follow up by occupying Adriatic", "Why don't you convoy into Albania?", "I would like to have a build, and Greece seems like the likely target", "I'm thinking - what do you see as a fair split of Austrian dots between us, if we're going to work together?", "Alright! I might be asking for some help into Serbia in the fall.", "I would say Trieste, Greece to me, and then Serbia and Budapest to you. You would probably pick up Rumania as well in this scenario, but need to see how Russia plays regarding Vienna", "Let’s do this!", "It's come to my understanding that you had no intention of turning on Austria this Fall. If you're not motivated to attack him, and I understand why you'd prefer not to go to war with your neighbor when France is playing in your backyard, perhaps the three of us can work together and try to force a wedge in the Western Triple? Allow Austria and I to focus on Russia and you get into a more threatening posture against France?", "I basically sent this to Austria, I've replaced the pronouns so that it makes sense to you: \n\nOk, I now realize that there's no Western Triple. Instead, it's an FG - which is just as bad for you guys, since Germany is already into Russia. Here's my idea, and take it or leave it ... but I suggest that Italy keep rotating his fleets out (maybe move towards WES and TUN) while Austria backfills ION. Italy builds a fleet in ROM and Austria can convoy Greece into NAP in the Spring. Now Italy's got three fleets in play while France is trying to land a unit on England. Meanwhile, Austria moves the army out of SER and towards Munich and I move BUL/RUM north into SEV, MOS, and WAR. It's a logical expansion for all of us and presents each of us with room to grow and peace in the Balkans.", "You’re really forcing the fleet build. I wanted to build armies. But you’re forcing the fleet build.", "I'd like to start by apologizing. The turn change comes first thing in the morning my time, and your message was sent after I had went to sleep. As a result, I did not see it until I got off work just now, and did not give it proper consideration", "My alliance with Austria against you was based on the premise that you and Russia were planning on a Juggernaut alliance that needs to be stopped as soon as possible, and that your move to the Black Sea was a concession on Russia's part to grease the wheels of that alliance.", "Your stab on Russia in Bulgaria has proven those premises to be false, yet my move to EAS puts us in conflict nonetheless", "For what it's worth, I will build a fleet in Rome as you had requested - as it is necessary to cover France", "If you are willing to build an army in Con as well, I would take that as a strong indicator of your desire for cooperation, but would understand if you feel that is not an option for you", "I think you need an army in Venice, my friend.", "I’ll consider the army.", "The army in Venice is more important for my immediate defensive position, but a fleet in Rome puts me in a better place to slip through WES and attack France", "That being said, if I felt confident that you would allow me to return to ION, building an army in Venice would be safer", "I think that would be mutually beneficial, seeing as you're probably not a fan of forcing me to stay in EAS either", "I’m gonna roll the dice and build A Con.", "You won't regret it.", "Well, I see you got cold feet regarding the A Con build", "Can't say I blame you", "I hope that you'll at least let me withdraw to ION", "Certainly", "Ughhh ... that was unfortunate. Can you effectively defend against both Austria and France? Any thoughts?", "Defensively, I can defend against them easily if they are not coordinated. If they are, I should be able to hold out for some time but it is ultimately a losing battle", "Of course, that's assuming that you remain neutral in this - if you pick a side in this conflict, either me or Austria should be able to cruise to victory", "I currently have the upper hand against France and don't face any disbands (since A Greece disbanded anyways), but a hostile Austria makes it tifficult to commit to gaining ground against France", "What are your thoughts?", "Austria has been a valuable ally for you against Russia and can support you into Moscow if you were so inclined. But Germany could do the same - their value to you on that front is reaching its limits", "I wouldn't be able to support you as much from Greece as I was in the past (since even if I were to somehow reclaim it, it would be with a fleet instead of an army), but I would still be willing to put pressure on Trieste to help you claim Serbia/Budapest", "My thoughts on your comments are - you are correct. I don't plan on attacking you with my fleets.", "On the other hand, I’m not sure I want to attack Austria.", "Not sure I'm a fan of you occupying the Ionian", "I'll just point out that Austria is highly exposed to an attack from you and Germany has turned on that", "Attacking them would be an easy win", "Well, not easy right now. I kept my word to you about not attacking you with my fleets. What are your plans with Ion?", "Apologies, missed this message", "But to be honest, given my situation with France and Austria, I am at your mercy right now", "I have no choice but to offer myself as the junior partner in a Italy-Turkey alliance. If you stab me, I will rapidly be conquered by France", "That said, I believe I still have value as an ally. I can help you to keep Austria's navy bottled up, and help you break through Austria and on to Germany", "I agree. We certainly can and should work together.", "I think you might make it out of this alive. What is stopping Germany from walking into Paris this year?!?", "Not much honestly, and Germany also told me that they're ready for a stab on France (you didn't hear this from me)", "Of course, I'll believe it when I see it, but I'll do everything I can to encourage that", "Apologies for missing the turn", "But would you be willing to support me into the Ionian against Austria?", "Will aim to get into the Ionian this turn - what are your thoughts on Austria?", "fucker needs to go.", "I assume we're working together at this point. Anything i can do to help?", "Not sure if my previous message didn't go through or if you just didn't have a chance to reply", "But just want to reiterate that my goal is a partition of Austria - and will move into Alb", "New turn is up.", "Not sure if you didn't see my message, or just didn't trust it, but it is regrettable that you felt the need to defend Greece and lost Serbia as a result", "F ION is happy to help you hold Greece. My draft order is F ION S Gre H, but let me know if you would prefer something else", "On my end, I will do my best to try and take either Venice or Triste, but it might be difficult given the lack of support", "What are your thoughts? Aiming for Bulgaria?", "Yes. Please support me I greece. I will attack Bulgaria.", "Will do. I'll try to play for Venice/Trieste as well, but expect that it won't succeed", "good luck. It's probably best to support Trieste in and try to slip into Venice.", "In case he tries to self-bounce.", "I think you need another army.", "Yeah, will hope for the self-bounce and aim to snipe", "Was hoping to get Germany's assistance, but it looks like that won't happen", "Agree that I need another army, but will need to secure the build first for that to happen :p", "Bouncing an idea - do you think I should build my army in Naples?", "A Ven S F Alb - Tri\nA ION C A Nap - Alb would be the fastest way to ramp up the pressure on Austria", "But I won't do it if you don't sign off", "So if you prefer I'll do the more conventional build of A Rome", "Actually, we need to do something about Germany", "They only need to absorb England and France to win", "I know. i've been asking Austria to do something about Germany for a long time.", "Go for naples. I think you're got a good set of moves planned.", "Are you planning to hit Serbia again?", "If so, do you need my A Alb to support?", "how bout I support you in?", "if you cut ADR with ION, you'll get in. you might even keep Trieste.", "My plan was either Alb - Ser or have you hit Ser to cut support, and the ION - ADR, which should let me hold Tri", "But if you're willing to support me in, I would appreciate that as well", "Seems like this turn went well for us!", "And as to the Germany issue, we can probably grab Budapest and then try to snipe Vienna next year", "If we can seize Vienna and France holds on to Portugal, that should be enough to stall Germany's victory for a year", "Well, we managed to break through Austria", "But likely Germany will win", "Let's try to coordinate with France and Austria to prevent a German victory, but might be a lost cause at this point", "Agreed. I’m not attacking Austria.", "We need to prop up Austria- that means supporting him to hold in Vienna, etc.", "Austria's move worked beautifully. Vienna is not currently under threat, so I will try to get into Tyrolia", "Suggest that you cover Sevastapol using a self bounce", "And then try to use Rum to go to Galicia", "I plan to move to Ionian - would it be helpful to convoy A Greece from there?", "Adriatic should support Venice to hold.", "And ask for Austrian help in Tyrol.", "Greece is headed north.", "Austria agreed to help", "Makes sense with Greece, is Aegean going to the Ionian then?", "no. no need.", "Austria endorsed the below COURSE OF ACTION:", "The key to not losing to the solo is - assuming the loss of Portugal (which is two coin flips) - not losing 2 of the 3 Russian centers. You're going to lose STP. The question then becomes, how to we preserve Warsaw? My recommendation is: \nA: VIE S TYR - BOH\nA: WAR - UKR\nA: STP - MOS\nA: BUD - GAL\nI: TYR - BOH\nI: TRI - TYR\nI: VEN - PIE\nI: TUS S VEN - PIE\nT: SEV - UKR\nT: RUM S WAR - UKR\nT: ANK - SEV (Convoy)\n\nThis plan destroys UKR or ensures that we control it. It places units in places that they can cut supports on Warsaw which dramatically increases our odds of taking it back if we loose it or maintaining it if we don't. Chances are, if STP is dislodged, it will be able to retreat to LVN. Worst case is that Germany just rotates his armies north - supporting himself into LVN and getting three on Warsaw (LVN, PRU, and SIL. But, we'll either be in Moscow or Galicia (probably both) and Ukraine. We'll also have two on Munich and he can either keep munich or go after Warsaw.\n\nThe other option is to support ourselves into Galicia and Ukraine. I'm willing to do as you suggest.", "You cost us the solo.", "Yeah, I messed up" ]
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[ "Hey Friend, how goes?", "Hey Italy, everything well over here. We probably won't be directly involved with each-other until mid-game, but if we're both still around, a France/Italy alliance could be pretty strong😉 .", "I also thought I would let you know that I heard from Turkey(who I was talking to about attacking Russia, because we all know how quickly Russia can run away with the game) that they we're planning on attacking you. Because I think Italy is a pretty good player for France to have around, I'm letting you know. I don't know how your relationship with Austria is, but may I suggest a lepanto? Anyways, good luck and have fun!", "So... I guess your new? What do you think about this game? The above might still apply, but I don't know because Turkey might change your mind", "Greetings. I'll talk to Turkey again and see if I think it seems true", "Agree that early fights between France and Italy are often a waste of time for both sides", "Suggest we demilitarize Piedmont and Gulf of Tyrolia. I won't be too happy if you move to Spain sc or build a fleet in Piedmont either", "Of course, I don't think we should be fighting(at least this early in the game), and that it would be mutually unproductive. I agree with a DMZ in Piedmont and Gulf of Tyrolia, and we might as well extend it to Western Mediterranean and North Africa. But I hope you understand how unreasonable for you to expect me not to move the Spain, as it is a typical France acquisition. Also I can't build a fleet in Piedmont... Anyways, Good luck, and have fun!", "Sorry, was in a rush to write these since I just entered the game", "Let me clarify that i have no issue with you moving to Spain - but I'm a bit uncomfortable with a Fleet in Spain SC", "I believe Spa NC is naturally yours and have no issue with you moving an army there either.", "As to the Piemdont issue, I actually meant Marseilles", "But yeah, I see that you have made an anti-England opening, so we should get along swimmingly", "Yes. Don't worry about a fleet in Spain.", "How is your relationship with Germany?", "Pretty solid.", "What's with the fleet build in Marseilles?", "This stand off in LYO/TYS is a waste of effort for both of us", "We would mutually benefit from a de-escalation", "While that might be true, what would you suggest I do with Lyo now? If you have a good alternative I would be happy to take it, as I'm not super keen on attacking you anyways", "I can support myself into piedmont and there is nothing stopping me. If you don't want me to, give me an alternative", "It is very poor faith of you to suggest that your hand was forced in your move to Piedmont. Nobody made you build a F in Marseille which can do nothing but attack me in the Mediterranean", "You only managed to get into Piedmont because I was worried that you would attempt the more creative and threatening move of convoying into Tuscany", "Even now, those armies would be far better placed in Gascony, where they are better placed to convoy to England", "But to be blunt, I don't trust you enough to see much point in talking with you at length", "Let's just see how far your army in Piedmont can get in the end", "Austria's build in Trieste cannot be anything but a play for Venice", "I am willing to concede it to you if you cooperate elsewhere", "Hmm. I messaged austria, and they didn't respond. What kind of cooperation elswhere do you want if you concede Venice>", "At this point, I'm at war on too many fronts, and I just need to ease the pressure", "If we demilitarize and I can focus on recapturing Greece, that would help me a lot", "Ok, I didn't think Germany would betray me but they did. No matter what situation your in, we have to all start working together to stop Germany or they will win.", "Sending this to everyone btw", "Hello, Italy???", "??", "I would require the return of Venice as a precondition to any cooperation against Germany", "Naturally, attacking Rome or Naples would also rule this out", "Well, I appreciate you pulling out of Apulia", "Would you be willing to discuss terms regarding Venice?", "Jeezus", "You have a free path into Trieste right now, and from there you can pressure Vienna", "After the hiatus, what's your view on the current situation?", "I view Austria as my main adversary and would like to see you hold on to Vienna. Now that Austria is occupying Venice, it also shouldn't make too much of a difference to you whether I take Venice or Austria does, right?", "Okay", "In order to stop Germany from winning, what support do you need from me?" ]
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[ "Seems the game has conspired to make us natural allies once again.", "How’s that", "Oh you know, Austria, Germany, it's generally considered suicide to go after each other.", "And yes I’m always happier as Austria when Germany lets people know that we are allies", "You said once again though.", "Oh well, you were Italy in game 9 yes?", "How’d you figure that out?", "Well, you're the only one that was in both games and both discord channels, process of elimination.", "Gotcha hahaha", "Hopefully it isn’t an issue with the study that we figured it out", "Well, they did say that anonymity was optional", "Sounds good", "So what’re you seeing from the board so far?", "Russia hasn't spoken much, but enough for me to know that they aren't my enemy. Italy is maintaining friendly terms with me, and the French seem pretty insistent that we can be allies as well. I think that if all is as it seems, the corner powers, Turks and English, are the most in trouble at the moment.", "This is of course barring treachery", "I’d assume you will be trying to recruit France to go for england then?", "That's the hope, yes", "This group doesn’t seem very chatty", "Certainly doesn't, might be easier to go outside and squeeze trees for sap.", "The Italians are eying you up as a potential enemy.", "Everything proceeds according to plan thusfar", "Can you do me a favor and bounce russia in Swe since they tried to hit Gal. And I’ll try to talk to Italy because I don’t really wanna fight them", "I'll try talking to the Russians first, but if I think they're lying to me or if they refuse, I'll bounce them.", "Actually, nevermind. I'm not going to speak with them, I'll just bounce them; you can count on at least one army coming your direction to help with them after this season.", "Looks like they're going to try a Juggernaut, I may have to alter my western triple plans accordingly.", "Ouch, I was going to ask Turkey to support me into Rum for a take or a bounce, either way it would hold russia from building", "Thanks for the heads up, we will see what turkey says", "Yeah, the Russians and Turks seem to have arranged that bounce for the Black Sea while the Russians maneuvered south. They want us to think that they're not friends until the moment they start supporting each other around. I'll talk to the Russians and Turks to see if I can squeeze some info out of them eh?", "Sounds good! I’m trying to smooth things out with Italy right now", "I’ll talk to england and let you know if I hear anything", "The English and I are, for the time being, on good terms, but any wild cards you could find out for me would be appreciated.", "Reached out to France as well so I will let you know. Looks like they might fight so that will be a fun situation for you", "Yeah, the Triple's going ideally for me, thank goodness.", "Did you actually hear from someone that a Juggernaut is happening or did you just get that from reading the board", "Just a hunch from reading the board.", "Because if I move into Rum thinking turkey will support and they don’t and move into Gre instead then I am in bad shape.", "But if the move works then Russia doesn’t get a build", "Can you try and approach turkey and get some info, not sure if they’d believe you’re attempting an attack on me but it could work.", "I've done so but they have yet to respond.", "Tight lipped, this whole group", "How frustrating", "Incredibly", "Yeah hearing from Turkey that Italy doesn’t love me either so I have to watch out for that", "He told me not to trust you but I don’t know how you would really attack me so", "Turkey's trying to push you away from those who might come to your aid earnestly, if he hasn't mentioned Russia then that's more evidence that the two of them are cooperating.", "Makes sense, I’ll probably have to play conservatively", "God I'm a fucking idiot, ugh. I accidentally sent a message intended for the English to the French, and the way it's worded makes me look sus as fuck.", "Worst case scenario here is that this is literally the turning point where all my planning goes down the drain and the two, who were about to fuckin' duke it out, turn into an Entente. Fuck. FUCK.", "That’s not good I’m sorry man, england and I just started talking. Anything you would want me to say/get from him!", "?", "Nothing much, I already got pretty much everything I need out of them.", "Though if you could unsuspiciously ask them if they have some kind of plan regarding France or I that'd be very useful.", "Ok, so I think the French might just think I'm an idiot now, which is a far better outcome than I could have possibly hoped for all things considered. If anything that's better than the status quo before, because they won't think I'm smart enough to betray them competently.", "Russia just confirmed, it's a Juggernaut", "That’s unfortunate", "Thank you for checking on that, I’ll poke around with england", "I'll be mobilizing forces East, hopefully the Russians will be too busy with me to keep the Turks alive.", "Hopefully Italy stays with me.", "They'd have to be fools not to.", "Yeah I’ve talked with him a little and he agrees that a strong turkey will eventually be bad for him", "Good, hopefully he'll maintain that opinion.", "How'd you swindle the Russians into staying put this time?", "I didn’t know they’d do that, never asked them to", "Glad I guessed right on Turkey. He’s still acting like we could be allies, and is apologizing for not notifying me of his change of plans. He told me that he didn’t support me into Rum because Russia agreed to bounce in BLA again so I wouldn’t need the support to bounce. So he’s claiming to be angry at Russia", "That's a good joke. That basically confirms it though, even if it weren't already. They're working together.", "Yes", "Lol especially with that fleet build", "What’s the situation out West?", "Sorry for not responding, busy weekend, but apparently the British have caught onto my tricks, the French and I are allied though. The Italians should be able to prove distracting enough that France won't be able to roll over me once Britain's gone though.", "What's the Plan with you? We can effectively guarantee that Warsaw falls, but I can't hold Sweden, and Vienna is terribly exposed.", "Also, either the Russians and Turks are doing a more convincing act than I did last game, or the Juggernaut has fallen apart.", "Yeah I didn’t believe that turkey wanted to go against Russia but it looks like he actually does", "Not sure about my plan I have to look at the board, I will get back to you", "I think I will be able to hold all of my supply centers.", "Are you gonna support me into Gal in order to guarantee that War falls?", "Wouldn't displacing Gal just give the Russians Vienna for free basically?", "I meant support Gal into War my bad", "Geez, Ukr into Gal", "Oh my gosh", "Ukr into War, final answer", "I was really hoping to secure Warsaw for myself, truth be told, unless you intend to stay friends with the Turks once Russia's finished off, but then again I'm not under any specific threat so I suppose you can have it.", "Do you want both of mine supporting or is one free to maneuver?", "My only reasoning behind you supporting me in is that it guarantees we take it even if he supports it holding with Gal. They only way for this to 100% work is both of yours supporting me in", "Because I can’t hit Gal this turn, I have to cover my own ass", "Silesia being the one to move would also render a 100% success rate, that fleet in Sev can't cut Ukraine and Prissoa isn't under threat", "Prussia*", "You’re right, rough morning for me apparently. I’ll support you in you’re doing more of the work", "Alright, from there Moscow is yours, I'll take St. Petersburg and Sweden and you'll take Romania and Sevastopol, as well as, of course, whatever you can get off the Turks.", "Hopefully it all actually works out that way! It’s gonna be messy over here if me turkey and Russia all can’t trust each other", "It's already messy all over, hopefully it ends in our favor", "Once again I feel like allying with you is the best move because you talk more than anyone else hahaha", "Yeah, literally nobody aside from you has responded for like 24 hours", "It makes it very hard to build alliances, I realize people have jobs and stuff but still it’s hard", "Yeah, not sure what it is.", "Lmk when you have time to talk", "I've got time right now, btw, the Turks just came to me asking if I was interested in attacking you.", "Okay he’s a confusing player, I think I need to trust him short term but keep an eye on him", "Well he also just said that if the two of you can get on the same page Russia's done for, so I think he wants to give it another shot.", "Yeah he does, may have been reaching out to you because he is iffy on me", "He’s worried about you and France", "I mean shit, I'm worried about me and France too. Our position as friends is tenuous at best if you ask me.", "😂", "And they barely fuckin' talk", "I need to know if I'm moving into the North Sea or not damnit!", "What is your stance on me taking War", "Like how opposed are you, because I understand that you could risk it and try and just take it your self", "I'm not terribly opposed, but me taking it would have us in better position to take Moscow if you ask me, assuming that Ukraine isn't displaced.", "That’s true, to be honest my reasoning is that Turkey is freaking out about you and if I support you in I might lose him for good. For that reason he wants me to cut support in Sev so that he can take Rum or attack Mos to either take that or bounce it. I don’t wanna do either of those things so I thought if you support me in then you are happy because russia loses a center, Turkey is happy because you don’t gain one, and I am happy because I gain one", "However your reason for being happy isn’t as convincing as ours", "Well the real problem in any case is that if you get too buddy buddy with the Turks, the Italians lose a lot of incentive to be your ally and gain a lot of incentive to hit you while your back's turned.", "And the Turks honestly don't have more than a tenuous and temporary reason to be your friend either.", "Totally understand that, I don’t want to be allied with the Turks but warring them and Russia at the same time is a pain in the ass. I’m convinced that they are against Russia and will help me until they know russia will go down (which could very well only be this fall or fall and spring)", "Yeah, once the Russians lose Warsaw they're on the ropes and have very little chance of stopping us, and the Balkans are pretty well tied up in any case as long as the Italians remain dedicated.", "I am still talking to Italy and would have no issues with them attacking turkey, I just don’t want turkey attacking me. As for an Italian stab, they are now in a position where attacking me is a multi turn process that I would see coming", "True, unless they build in Venice.", "Fair, still not that worried about Italy though. I would definitely trust them more than turkey", "Same, and with France breathing down their necks they're unlikely to consider treachery.", "So what are your final thoughts on my proposal", "If you don’t like it you don’t need to lie to me but I feel like it’s a solid compromise", "I would certainly prefer having Warsaw myself, and eventually I would prefer to get it from you, but if you think that it'd be better for you to have it I will support that.", "I am not against an eventual transfer as long as it would not result in a disband", "Of course, it would be in a season where you'd made gains.", "So yes you will support?", "I will.", "Thank you, owe you one", "Alright, the Turkish/Russian Alliance is pretty thoroughly ruined at this point, think it's safe to double down with the Italians to crush them now.", "Fair, thank you for actually sending me into War. We might even be able to do a transfer this spring", "Though if you told the Italians that you were moving on Bulgaria they might be understandably miffed to have missed that opportunity.", "That would be really nice, I could really use the units.", "No I didn’t tell them that", "Ill be able to use my new one to push back russia", "Well pushing back Russia isn't really the concern anymore, they're going to have to disband, the real concern now needs to be curbing the Turks before they gain enough momentum on you two.", "The Russians are all kinds of out of position to boot.", "Yeah plus they have zero allies", "Unless you count the British, but they made no attempt to help out this time.", "So France is going full split fronts, how’re you feeling about getting through england", "It'll be slow, but as soon as Russia's dispatched properly the British won't be able to stop me hammering through them.", "I’m trying to figure out if I wanna convince Italy to lay off of turkey", "Alright, so Warsaw can support do what it likes, but helping me into Livonia would be pretty ideal.", "Yeah I’ll do that but you need to support War holding then with Sil", "That's the plan", "What do you think russia will do with Gal this turn lol. Such a wild card", "I could see him moving/retreating into Boh just to make my life difficult", "My bet's that he'll pull it back to Ukraine, try to survive rather than just cause trouble.", "Hopefully", "I’m gonna reach out to england about seeing if they would take St P, even though it would be selfish and short sighted of him it might be enticing enough for him to do it", "We could already take it away later, england is rarely able to hold Russian territories", "*always", "It would be good Intel for France and I as well, to see if we can afford to get aggressive with our fleets.", "I’ll let you know if he even responds", "Are you hitting BOT this turn? I think you should", "Yeah, want to force the Russians to have to retreat with the fleet so I can jump into Sweden.", "Okay cool", "Any chance you could approach turkey about attacking me once russia is done? I don’t trust that I’m not his next expansion target.", "I would do the same for you if you would like", "I already have gotten several messages from them asking if I'm interested in attacking you, which is why I've been warning you that they could go after you at any moment and you shouldn't trust them.", "How recently", "Monday. I can check again if you'd like, but in any case siding with the Turks is a sucker's bet for you. Once Russia's gone they have nowhere to expand and they're at your back, and siding with them will rapidly erode Italy's willingness to side with you.", "Interested to see if Russia has actually quit", "Same. Turks have yet to respond to me seeing how interested they are in betraying you", "Haven’t talked to me yet either", "Do you think taking Gre was a bad move", "Well, you can count on Italy not being fans of the move.", "Turkey's starting to respond, their biggest question so far is how we would split you, east/west or north/south.", "I personally wouldn't have done it, you need the Italians to keep the French off your border and to help if the Turks decide to take you down, andthe Turks have no reason not to want you dead if the opportunity arises. You don't need them for Russia anymore, so who do you need them for? What do they need you for? Furthermore, where can they go now to expand?", "Yeah I’m just going to have to anticipate the stab. Honestly I was tired of working with Italy. He was constantly reading the board poorly, saw France coming and mishandled it, and other stuff.", "Alright, move into Moscow and I'll get into Warsaw, seems like a good time to do the transfer.", "Just don’t support yourself into War because I might not make it into Mos", "Lol england wants me to attack you", "Have the Turks support you in and they can't block you. Also, I think England might be desperate lol.", "How goes there?", "Nervous part of the game for me", "Not in love with turkeys army build", "Have you talked with France about their Tyr move", "Yeah, it's an Italy-centric move. They mean you no harm as far as I'm aware.", "They haven't been very talkative since Friday though so it's hard to say.", "I’m assuming you’re responding to the France thing and not the turkey thing", "Yeah, the Turkey thing can really only go one way.", "He says he’s convoying it to Apu, seems legit and if he moves it to Bul instead I will see it coming", "I need to figure out what direction I wanna go now", "Not to sound like a broken clock or anything, but Turkey's got very little option but to fight you at this point, that's a pretty good direction to point yourself.", "Neither of us are in a position for it right now though", "So what are you gonna do, you committed a lot of stuff East that isn’t very useful anymore", "Well, probably going to finish off the Brits, then I'm not sure honestly.", "That’s fair. Do you buy that turkey is moving Con to Apu", "Personally? Not really, but it's possible.", "My only holdup with it is that he could have just built the army in Smy then", "Exactly", "Gonna see if France is willing to talk, will let you know what he says about you", "If he says anything", "He hasn't spoken to me in a while, not sure what's up.", "Yeah I’m gonna at least try and figure out some Italy stuff", "You can take St P but can you hit UKR for me", "Can do. Told you the Turks were no good.", "Glad that I moved against them", "Yeah, things are about to get reeeeal hectic over there. Not sure how much I can help.", "Me either, I’m honestly not sure I can win", "It might be possible if you reconcile with the Italians and help them push off the French.", "It would at the very least become a lot more likely. Turkish naval supremacy makes things immensely difficult for you.", "I'm all in on your side here but my navy's on the other side of the map and armies can only touch Turkey and shore you up if I enter your personal space, so to speak.", "Ya I don’t know how much you can do right now", "I’d be fine with you trying to get into position to be", "What do you need from Warsaw?", "Can you support Rum to Ukr, and can you support Mos H", "What kind of win are you thinking? You probably won’t be able to solo unless you take out France soon", "No idea, probably some form of draw but it's hard to say who all would be involved at this point.", "And yes, I can do that", "Everything good?", "Yup yup, everything's good over here", "The heck are the Turks up to even?", "Ugh, I feel like a jerk putting the knife in France's back this hard. Feels way worse than what I did to the Turks last time.", "Turkey thought we had an alliance but the last time we talked he said he was attacking Me until we figured it out. We never talked because I was a little in active I didn’t reach out until last night so I had to put in orders against him. He trusted me blindly", "France is bummed, just sent us a mass message to attack you", "Well, I hope that you won't, that would put a damper on things.", "Haha yes it would", "There is no way that I can, no way turkey doesn’t attack me for the rest of the game now", "Yeah you really kinda have to get rid if them if you want to go forward with anything else", "Good to see that Turkey is progressing well! If the French disband in Tyrolia, would you mind if I jump in? I'd like to hasten their demise by denying them Venice, if possible.", "Denying who Venice", "The French of course", "Gotcha", "Well, moot anyways I suppose. They're staying put it seems. How goes Turkey?", "Eh", "I really haven’t enjoyed this game, austria is my least favorite country", "I like Austria honestly, generally if you lose it's very early, and it requires good communication.", "With any luck, the game will be over soon enough anyways, the French really have no recourse here.", "Soon as you take out the Turks and the Italians we can end it, and the Turks are definitely on the ropes.", "If you had more troops this direction I'd suggest we could work together to displace Tyrolia with one of your armies, but you'd have to cover Trieste and Turkey could easily take advantage of that in the current state.", "Are you saying two way?", "Unless you can think of anyone else who we'd include.", "I thought you would go solo", "Why would I do that?", "Lol because you probably can", "I mean, I probably could have last time too, if I hadn't spent half the game with 6 armies sitting around doing nothing lol", "Fair, well I’d be happy to be included", "Outstanding prediction on that French move, if that wasn't a coincidence.", "Haha thanks, yeah it was a guess", "Now I have to guess right again", "If the Italians were more enthusiastic revanchists this would be easier, I kinda wish you hadn't moved into Ionian, it really spooked them.", "They hate me anyways", "No offense, but that *is* mostly on you.", "Oh of course", "I’m terrible with Austria, I freak out and don’t trust anyone.", "Everyone on the board except you hates me", "Can't imagine why the French would, but apparantly they want to pick fights with you too now.", "For me the problem country is Italy. Can never get the hang of it.", "Tbf I can't even really talk, the British are being extremely uncooperative because of my previous action against them.", "I actually like Italy, as you know I try as hard as I can to ally with Russia. If I can’t get that then usually Turkey will attack Austria with me.", "Yeah, Italy's really one where you have to go with the Russians or get REALLY unorthodox, the generally accepted path is kinda crap.", "Most Italians just start a fight with Austria without reaching out to other people that’s the issue", "I suppose it's another one that requires really good coordination. I can never convince the French it isn't worth it though.", "As Italy?", "These games through the study are the only ones I have ever really played where France goes for Italy. I don’t know if it’s because players are more experienced here or just a coincidence", "Not sure, I've seen it fairly frequently.", "Usually France is busy freaking out about E/G in my games", "In games I'm in England and France are generally the ones fucking Germany over.", "I always feel like that goes poorly for england", "Depends if France is the kind of fool that doesn't build fleets.", "True", "Would you like me to come down and help expel the French? I can mobilize Munich and Warsaw to the task. It would involve moving into Bohemia and Tyrolia, but drastic times call for drastic measures.", "Yeah I’d appreciate it", "Not a good turn for me I made some bad guesses", "No worries, I'll come down to help out.", "So I just realized that my mind made a goof and Warsaw doesn't border Bohemia. Would you mind terribly if I moved into Galicia to help ensure you can expel the French? From there we can mutually bounce in Budapest while displacing Venice (Assuming that you don't successfully occupy Budapest in Spring). You'll need to hold Budapest on your own power for the first turn though.", "Also, if you retreat to the Adriatic you can take Venice uncontested.", "Yeah do what you need but obviously we will continue to coordinate", "I feel like im screwed", "Well, things could certainly be better all things considered.", "Oh hey, everything went great; situation normal", "Do you think it'd be a good idea for me to temporarily occupy Vienna to deprive the French of the dot? Or would you be uncomfortable with that you think", "I mean it’s not mine right now, go for it", "If I could get in it would be a different story", "Fair enough, just wanted to get your approval first.", "Highly unexpected move from the Turks there, though it does leave them open to an attack through Armenia.", "I'm vacating Vienna for you to move in. I'll be moving to Galicia, and back to Warsaw from there.", "Yeah you have to because of that French unit, he’s annoyingly", "Incredibly. He's sacrificing his ability to hang on to territory in favor of being a thorn in our mutual side.", "Turkey is getting on my nerves. Keeps just yelling at me lol", "He says I’m letting you win, honestly all my chips are on us doing a two way. I can’t stop you so I might as well hope you wanna win together Lol", "I sure would love to, but at this point I'm not sure it's possible, these games are limited to year 10 and that's rapidly approaching. I don't think we can make up the lost ground for you even if they all post four no-orders turns.", "There's basically only two ways for this to finish, four way draw and German victory. I hate to say it and I won't suggest one over the other to you, but I think it should be clear which I'd greatly prefer.", "Ya plus I just messed up", "Yeah, even if this kept going after year ten that would be a terrible setback", "Honesty not quite the best policy on this one eh? In any case I understand.", "Lol I kinda just figured fuck it", "Well, we'll see if you can stop me 😉", "Hahhaa yeah definitely going to", "Definitely going to stop me or definitely going to see?", "Lol we’ll see. I doubt we can stop you at this point", "Gonna be real, I'd give it 50/50 odds, there's only 3 more turns and it could go either way depending on how you four move." ]
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[ 5, 4 ]
11
[ "Hello and good evening! You and I have much to talk about, and if we don't get certain things sorted out and understood between us I'm afraid that any conflict that might arise would surely sink us both.\n\nFirst thing's first, I would greatly prefer if we could keep Silesia and Prussia demilitarized, as well as Bohemia should such a situation arise.", "Hi hello, I agree there's no need to start a ruckus on the eastern front. Truce on those three for now. Where are you looking to head first?", "The British are an existential threat to anyone with a border on the Atlantic, I'd prefer to dispatch them first and foremost.", "Agreed - I'll be in swe, you take den for now?", "That's the plan, though in the future, after the British are gone, I'd very much like to make Sweden and Denmark demilitarized as well.", "It's obviously too dangerous for the time being", "Ain't no England ever send both fleets East that wasn't aiming to take on the Russians, in my experience.", "Also, you working with the Turks? I can help hasten Austria's demise if you are.", "thanks, appreciate it! Can you let me scooch into Swe?", "Of course, can I get Vienna?", "danke and sure thing!", "is sweden a lost cause for me?", "alliance with england is a lose for you in the long run", "I am so friggin' sorry, I was toying around with my orders for a while the other day before the turn in and apparently never clicked \"update\" on the finalized version x.x I'm a complete mess this game, you can just ask France", "never trust the germans, they told me!", "Well that's France, of course they would tell you that! :p But seriously, it was just me being a goofy lil' bitch and not hitting the buttons correctly when I needed to.", "so much for DMZ...", "Really looked like y'all were going for a juggernaut, there's certain circumstances that necessitate the breaking of even the most earnest promise.", "you've done me dirty on literally every single turn!", "Only 2/3 of them!", "According to Meatloaf that's not bad!", "genuinely curious why you're not moving south though", "Because Austria's no threat to me." ]
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[ 5, 2 ]
11
[ "Good afternoon to you England, I think it's important that you and I talk about things like Belgium and perhaps other situations as you see fit, right here at the start.", "agreed. What would you like to see happen in Belgium? What are your thoughts on bouncing Russia? I'm open to many possibilities.", "Well I personally would quite like to have Belgiun but I'm willing to listen to reasons why I shouldn't get it.", "i think that depends on the russia question", "It certainly does! Russia hasn't communicated with me yet, I'm starting to think that they don't even want to be my friend", "Well considering Frances opening I’d say you and I can work well against France. I’ve already discussed with Italy putting some pressure on piedmont and the med. what do you up say, you game for a EG sweep?", "Right, that opening is particularly aggressive. I'm guessing that they're mostly doing it to try and keep you out of Belgium, but in any case it signals that they don't want to be your friend either. I'm guessing you'll move back to London?", "it seems i have no choice. what has your communication with france been like?", "It's been pretty limited, made some agreements regarding Belgium but aside from that they've been cagey", "well you you'll be getting 3 builds. I would appreciate armys over fleets to help go after France if possibe. You think that's in the cards?", "Well, be honest with you, the agreement was that *they* would have Belgium, so if you want you can successfully bounce them there, since going from the English Channel is the only means of doing so.", "I don't trust the French not to try to play me for a patsy and you're far more communicative anyways, might as well tell you stuff that'll give you the upper hand.", "By the way, the Russians are doing some really sus stuff, you wouldn't happen to be friendly with them would you?", "On second thought, the fact that the French don't feel trustworthy means that they're probably lying when they say they'll move to Belgium. I dunno. Take it how you will.", "Russia is not very happy with my double fleet East so I haven’t gotten much from him. I’m hearing rumors of an early jug forming.", "France stabbed me out the gate. We had a dmz in the channel. I’m wary of trusting him. I hope you make a play at Belgium.", "I can read a Juggernaut when it's happening, this is definitely one of them. Russia wouldn't be going after the Austrians otherwise. You mind supporting me into Sweden in the Spring? We need to head that eventuality off at the pass by all means necessary.", "Hello?", "Mean, but not unexpected.", "You’re in tight with France and I haven’t seen anything to make me think otherwise. Unfortunate that Russia messed up. I hope we can work together against France. I can make a great ally.", "Look man, the French have been pretty agreeable so far so I'm staying out of their way for the most part, I'm just trying to focus on the Russians and keep enough in the West that I can't be easily taken by surprise to be honest.", "supporting france into the north sea is something i think you might regret", "i don't see france getting out of the north and will be looming on you throughout the game.", "with you getting builds and france getting nothing, this might be as good a time as any to stab.", "You know, I was thinking the exact same thing.", "mun-bur, hol-bel, den support hel-nth", "let's work together", "Well the question is, at this point, with me having mistreated you thusfar, what incentive do I have to trust you not to do something squirrely instead of working with me? No offense meant or anything.", "none taken. i'm only looking for survival. i was double stabbed by france and you so it's not like i'm trying to single you out. If I have any shot of staying on the board it's to convince you to stab france and maintain my island. i don't think there's anything gained other than spite by messing with you and that also means i ultimatley die off.", "I only ask because your *best* shot by far, if you asked me, is if you get me to betray France, but at the same time you take a supply center from me so that you keep all your pieces, and at the same time throw a wrench in my betrayal so that France and I will be on roughly equal footing while at each other's throats; Bonus points if you're also relaying the plans of betrayal to the French so that they can be countered.\n\nAfter all, if I win outright you've only delayed the inevitable haven't you? Better to make it messy.", "But I'm willing to throw you a bone: I won't tell you what I'm going to do with my units in detail, but I will support you into the North Sea.", "I have no way of taking you down a SC. my fleet in HEL could take kiel but you can cover with BER and either you get BEL or I bounce HOL. Either way you're still up because of Norway. Either way, I hope we get to work together.", "😔", "I forgot to submit those orders fuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUCK", "I can do it this next year, there's still time for you yet.", "i'm disbanding now because you took norway", "Yuuuuup", "Hopefully the French are sufficiently distracted that you can launch a counter attack.", "How can I do that??", "While they're pulling back", "See?", "So, I assume that you will be moving toward London now?", "of course. gotta get my home centers.", "Well that was incredibly inconvenient of you.", "what do you want me to do??", "Stop trying to take North Sea, you're slowing the entire war down.", "I'd go so far as to say you're the reason the French are going to get a build.", "You could have gone to Wales and Liverpool last turn and had London in the bag but NOOOOOOO you're just so thirsty for the North Sea that now you're being used as a pawn by the French.", "Yorkshire, now Liverpool. You get the point.", "*Not, ugh.", "thats pretty self righteous speech for someone who stabbed me TWICE", "You moved against me at the same time I moved against you. You stabbed me as much as I did you (And it was only once). I'm the reason you're still alive and yet you're still stabbing me.", "Bad idea." ]
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[ 5, 3 ]
11
[ "Hello, we don't have much to talk about here at the start but I just want to tell you to have a good game!", "Thanks! I’m not sure I have a preference regarding Sweden. But we can talk later!", "You working with the Russians? If so I can definitely move to hasten Austria's demise.", "Any big plans I should know about?", "Eh, none in particular", "Ok! I’m very curious to see where your fleets are headed.", "What're you up to? Anything in particular aside from what should be expected from Turkey generally?", "So I take it you and the Russians aren't cooperating anymore?", "Are you still interested in going after Austria? Or is France your next target after England?", "Honestly I'm mostly interested in surviving right now, things have gotten intensely strange.", "how so? you've got a dmz with France, two on Warsaw, and no bad options in the north.", "Brits and Russians start working together they can pry through my weak spot in the north. Wouldn't be good.", "I wouldn't call that situation \"intensely strange.\" I would call it a \"normal response to an aggressive FG.\"", "Still leaves a lot of unanswered questions on what happens next.", "you're probably going to self bounce in Denmark.", "and take Warsaw.", "So, now Russia gains Sweden, is way out of position, and probably has to pull one as long if Austria and I can get on the same page.", "Yeah, still thinking if anything could be better than that though. The fact that they didn't bounce me in Sweden in the first place this last turn is a pain.", "well, there's worse things than getting into a supply center.", "Yeah, like not being able to hold it till Fall and having put yourself somewhat out of position in having done so.", "let's say he did get into Sweden with the fleet. Now Denmark is at risk.", "at least now you know you can't lose a supply center if you guess wrong or don't support yourself.", "such a pessimist you are! 🙂", "Best to keep somewhat of a dower outlook on things, means that you likely won't get cocky and overestimate your ability to act on people!", "So how are you and Austria getting along?", "he says he's going after you next, but who knows? he's got multiple armies lined up on our border and I can't really defend myself at this point.", "I don't know why they decided not to go after you honestly, it's a huge mistake on their part considering they'll be your next best target and you're gaining more than them out of this deal. Besides which, with Italy's help they could easily have taken both you and Russia. Want to split them down the middle with me?", "sounds ideal. I assume this means that you're taking Warsaw?", "And what does \"down the middle\" mean? Are we talking East West or North South?", "North South, probably.", "I'm fine with that.", "Do you have anything you’d like to coordinate?", "I’m a little hesitant to go after Austria right now, but I could be swayed by your actions.", "I mean to take St. Petersburg this season without antagonizing the Austrians, but after that it's pretty free game. They're concerned about your army build.", "Some people see threats everywhere.", "What are your thoughts about Moscow? I’d like to take a unit off of Austria.", "Was going to take St. Petersburg first, but if you support Warsaw into Moscow I wouldn't say no.", "Well, he’d just retreat to STP.", "Mind supporting me in?", "You went after Ukraine?", "You didn't respond, I didn't change my orders accordingly. In any case it did no damage.", "Fair enough", "Big plans for this year?", "Anything we can do together?", "If you’re n attacking Moscow or anything, I’d appreciate you to support me to hold in Ukraine.", "I've got no big plans, but I could certainly help you hold. Couldn't you use Sevastopol though?", "Sev is supporting something else. I got to get some dots!", "Fair enough, gotta get those dots.", "Odd moves", "Say, the Austrians wouldn't have happened to be talking about me, have they?" ]
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[ "Good afternoon, I think it's important that you and I come to terms over a few things right here at the start, including the fate of Belgium and how despite our situation as naturally suited antagonists, Britain is the larger threat to both of us.", "Hey Germany. \"Natural suited antagonists\"? I beg to differ. I personally think that over here in the west, a France/Germany alliance is the strongest, preferably taking out England ASAP. What do you think?", "I spoke to England and they don't seem like a particularly diplomatic player, but I'm pretty sure I can get into the English channel. From there I would like to move to Belgium, since they will most likely be moving back to London. In return for Belgium I would be willing to support or convoy you into English territory.", "Well, England hasn't spoken to me just yet, so it sounds like perhaps they won't intend to be friendly with me whatsoever. I think that your plan sounds pretty solid, I'll support you into Belgium if need be.\n\n I only say Natural Antagonists because that's how it frequently goes, notwithstanding the strength of the alliance. I personally find it quite strong, and not nearly as asymmetrical as alliances between either of us and the Brits.", "Taking the English down ASAP is definitely something on my agenda though, one less front line to worry about.", "Great. I'll move the the English channel. What are you thinking for moves?", "Mostly just pivoting toward the low countries, Kiel to Denmark and probably to the North Sea from there.", "Sounds good.", "So you're headed to Belgium now from the Channel, yes?", "That would be ideal. It's a bit of a gamble, but England will probably will think I'm going to Lon. It would be greatly appreciated if you supported me in but you don't have to. I don't know what else Ruh would do though...", "Eh, the English say they're moving to London, no need for the support; I need to send some troops over East, don't trust the Russians.", "I don't trust the French not to try to play me for a patsy and you're far more communicative anyways, might as well tell you stuff that'll give you the upper hand.", "*English", "Fuckin' brain getting words mixed up and making me look sus. >.>", "Ruhr is moving back to Munich to deploy east, regardless. The Russians bouncing the Austrians in Galicia indicates that they're going to do a Juggernaut and I have to do everything I can to stymie that.", "and... you really trust england?", "They are most likely not telling the truth", "But ok sounds good", "No, I don't, but I think they'd be idiots to do anything else. But if you're really worried, I can support you in and keep the pivot to the East for next year.", "I would try to get into Englands territory with your fleet", "No, it's fine, don't support", "I intend to, but I can't leave Denmark till it's secured without putting myself way out of position for anything in the east if the Russians get aggressive. You sure you don't want the support?", "No, of course I want the support, as it can't possibly help me and adds an extra layer of protection. I just thought you brought up a fair point about russia, and it's your choice, so I'm not going to argue with you a ton about what you should do.", "To be honest I wouldn't be to worried about Russia. They didn't even move towards you, and after hearing what you said I talked with Austria, and they said they were going to attack Russia, so I don't think there is an alliance there. I would instead invest in capturing english territory, which would give you troops to build in your homeland and defend against Russia if they choose to attack you.", "Fair enough, I'll focus on the English first then.", "Ok, and will you be supporting me into Burgundy? Up to you.", "You mean Belgium? Sure, nothing better to do for the time being.", "Yes, belgium. Oops", "Well, I didn't hit the button to update the orders, but it worked out just fine anyways I suppose.", "My bad.", "Yes, it's fine. Sooo, ig the game is in grace period, so I was wondering what you builds were looking like. I will build a fleet in Bre and if you build a fleet in Kiel, the 4 combined fleets should be more than enough to take out britain, and we shouldn't have to build anything else in that regard.", "I'm building a fleet in Kiel. Most of my armies are going to move East to counter the Juggernaut that's actively happening over there, but I'll dedicate one army and both fleets to dropping the English.", "great", "What are you thinking about moves? We should coordinate", "Moving into Helgoland Bight, probably moving into Sweden with Britain's help while I can still manipulate them into thinking I'm their friend rather than their foe (Kill two birds with one stone, you know), two armies move East.", "Alright, we have a good chance of making it into the North Sea if you support Helgoland Bight into it with both fleets. Unfortunately it seems the British called my bluff early and the Russians have committed to taking Sweden, so things aren't exactly ideal, but we're still in a pretty definitively winning position.", "Russians really fucked me up by not bouncing me in Sweden. Good move on their part.", "Hey Germany. It's a shame Russia called your bluff. I will support helgoland into nth with both of my fleets. We should have a 100% chance of getting in if you attack Nwy with sweden and cut support. This is the best move for sweden in any scenario, as that territory is basically lost, and who knows, maybe england will move Nwy to Stp and you will end up getting Nwy", "Yeah, the only worry is that England will move North Sea to Denmark, which would be a damn shame and a pain in my ass.", "And if they're displaced they could *retreat* there, which would just add insult to injury.", "Ah, good point. I don't have anything for Pic to do, do you think I should have Eng convoy it over to whales? Or do you think it would be more useful to support you in", "Also, would you mind telling italy the following: \"Hey Italy. You probably know I have an alliance with france, and they have troops right next to you. They told me that they were going to support themselves into Piedmont. I'm letting you know because I'm worried about them getting too strong and stabbing me, as they already have 6 centers.\" Or something like that, just in your own words. I want them to think I'm supporting myself into Piedmont.", "Picardy can stay put for now, I think that the English will anticipate us doing something other than trying to take the North Sea and will move to prevent it, if they think we're thinking far enough ahead. It's worth the gamble that they'll only throw one support at it. Besides, in all likelihood even if you tried to move to Wales, Yorkshire would block it, since Yorkshire isn't doing anything useful where it is now.", "Will do, can't guarantee they'll believe me though.", "Sent it along, in my own words.", "thx mate", "What do you think I should do in the med with italy? I could either move LYO to WES, hoping to bounce them there(why I had you send that message), and have Mar attack Pie, or I could just support myself in and if they do go to WES i'll move my fleet in the English channel down to cover spain/portugul", "If you convoyed from Spain to Tuscany it'd be all over for them, effectively.", "Everything worked exactly as planned it seems!", "yep.", "Only worry now is where the Brits will retreat to.", "Im pretty confident they can't retreat to denmark, because it was contested this turn", "They can't, but they can retreat to SKA", "So what do you think would be the best move? You think England's going to try to dislodge North Sea with all their navies or do you think they'll want to cover Edinburgh more?", "i really don't know.", "I think I will support Nth with belgium, but convoy Pic to whales", "Good idea, even if we lose North Sea that'll get us into the isles, then it's game over for them.", "that's the idea", "Ok, it's a shame we lost the north sea but it was inevitable, at least we got whales. England should be gone in a few turns and then I can focus all my energy on Italy.", "If we continue to trust each other, communicate, and play well I think we have a two-way victory in the bag", "Next turn I can support you into Nth again, and you will definitely get it, since I have the army in whales to cut support", "Try to suck up as many of russias supply centers as you can, they are very weak and seem to be afk", "Yeah, hopefully, if all goes well, I'll be building quite a lot. Austria's betrayal of Italy in favor of Turkey is really telling so I think I'll have my hands full on that front soon enough. A two way victory sounds splendid to me.", "How will we split Britain?", "Um, so this turn I think I'm going to support myself into london, but also support you into the Nth sea. From there you can take Edi, and I can support you into that.", "Nah, focus on succeeding in London, poke North Sea with Belgium so that it can't support. I'm supporting myself into Sweden and moving on Norway from there; if you want to simplify things we could have you take all of Britain and just transfer Belgium to me (So that we both net 2 from the British, since I'll have Norway), though I would understand why you might be uncomfortable with that.", "I'm really torn over what to do in Italy. I spoke to Austria about going after them together, and they are thinking about it. I could try convoying Mar into Tuscany, with Pie supporting. This is basically the same as just moving Pie into Tuscany, with support from my fleet, except for that if I convoy Mar the support is less likely to be cut(I think there is a higher chance they will cut support to my fleet than cut support/move to Piedmont)", "The Austrians are currently making a whole slew of bad decisions, allying with the Turks is a sucker's bet. I'm not sure what you should do tbh, the Italians aren't talking to me much anymore.", "I suppose we could have me take all of Britain, and have me give you Belgium, but I would ask that as soon as you take Belgium, you move back out. It's definitely an option, but I will have to think about it.", "Oh of course, once I had it I'd get out of there immediately. Trust is the key in transfers like this.", "Take your time, we've got several turns until it needs settling, and several days till the next turn.", "I could move Piedmont to Tyr, it's a great place to be. Not sure if I would get in though.", "Tyr is one of those spots where everyone around gets nervous when you're there.", "Yep, Austria wouldn't like that.", "Good tactical utility though, if you want to strongarm into Venice.", "I feel like we could very well end up with a standoff between me and you, and turkey and austria. I'm kinda trying to brew unrest over there, spreading rumours and such.", "I have been desperately attempting to convince the Austrians that they're better off with me but it hasn't been working.", "Why didn't you want me supporting you? My move into Lon was already garunteed.", "Whatever", "I was thinking either the British or Russians would make a play for Sweden, wanted the support to ensure the move. In any case we should have an easy time moving forward.", "In any case we're both making pretty good gains.", "I'll be building in Munich, just so I don't catch you by surprise with that. Want to be able to move in as fast as possible on the Austrians when we go for it.", "What do you think the next move should be?", "Could you support Bel to Nth?", "Absolutely. My fleet in Denmark wouldn't be doing anything otherwise. Are you moving in with Piedmont or Tyrolia? Because if it's not Tyrolia I can support that to stay put, just in case the Austrians get antsy.", "I'm having Tyrolia support piedmont in. I will definitly get it unless for some reason the austrians support italy, which would be wierd.", "Thanks for supporting Bel", "Feel free to support Tyr, but don't feel pressure to do so if you have a better move in mind", "I'm waiting to have St. Petersburg to make a move on the Austrians, Munich has nothing to do for the moment except to support Tyrolia.", "Everything worked out great.", "And it looks like the Turks and Austrians are at each others throats now.", "The Brits are trying really hard to get me to throw myself against you. I mean reeeeeally hard.", "lol. All I can say is that I hope you don't, since we have this game in the bag", "You could use that. Tell them you will stab me, and tell them my moves(but false) so that I can get in more easily", "I can probably jump into Edinburgh via the Norwegian sea this next year, no need for the Belgium transfer.", "LOL italy just messaged me and said that \"Austria's build in Trieste cannot be anything but a play for Venice\" and then \"I am willing to concede it to you if you cooperate elsewhere\", so I guess they don't understand I already have it. They sure are getting desperate.", "Think I should play along, or just tell them about what \"concede\" really means, and that you can't concede something if your opponent controls it and you have no chance of getting it back.", "Also, what do you think I should do for builds? A fleet in Brest or an army in Paris?", "Go ahead, play along lol, should be interesting. If I were you I'd build fleets, the enemy from here on out is one on the seas almost exclusively.", "k, what do you think about builds?", "Would you be ok with me building army in paris? I would send it over to the south east prob", "Not sure, at least one army, might build a navy even though I won't have much use for it anymore.", "You can if you want, but I think a Navy would do a lot to forcing the Mediterranean open faster. Italy's a huge traffic jam for armies.", "Do you still want belgium? At this point our borders are like, super demiliterized, which is pretty nice, but at this point I do trust you, if you want to have it. If you want an center it would prob be better for you to have belgium than enland. Or do you even want a center, since you already have 1 more than me.", "Well, I certainly wouldn't say no, you'll definitely have an easier time taking the Italians than I will bleeding anything from the Austrians.", "Whoa, didn't realize we were so close to adjudication. What are you thinking for moves?", "I don't need support from you anywhere this turn. All my units will be making moves at englands centers/taking the med/taking italy", "All I can say is that I REALLY hope you don't betray me, since you have some units looking like they could just walk into my supply centers. We have such a good run going right now, as long as you don't betray me we can definitly get a two-way draw", "I think I'm gonna move on the Austrians, take them out while they're distracted with the Turks.", "England and Italy both are truly desperate to get me to turn on you, and even the Austrians have thrown some urgings in lol", "lol yes, the Austrians hate me for staying in Triest when I told them I would move, Italy has been desperatly begging for DMZ, and England is obviously done.", "Right, and Austria can't possibly take me and Turkey at the same time", "As long as we keep austria and turkey fighting, you can run them down by land and I can apply presure with fleets", "Yeah, I'm playing both sides to keep them at each other's throats.", "great", "For the record I really hate doing crap like this but I told myself right at the start that I needed to gussy up and go for a solo for once in my life. I love this game but ironically hate the deception aspect >.>\n\nIn any case it's nothing personal and you were super cool to work with", "Tbh I was pretty sure you would do that, but (for once) I wanted to trust somebody in this game bc I've been known to backstab people like crazy. Your all good, Imma put up a fight though and try to stop you 😉", "You were cool to work with to", "Good luck. We did have the two way draw in the bag though", "Wow, you really are pouring units into my hometown. Basically leaving Austria and turkey alone, huh", "I know we did, and to be honest I've been super wishy washy about actually going through with this because of that. I almost did it last turn. I still feel like a jerk doing it.", "And yeah, as long as they're at each other's throats they aren't too much threat, unless you pull some silver tongue on them to get a real coalition of the willing going", "Silver toung it is. It's going to be pretty great if I can get them to organize then we can actually win against you and that would be cool. Well see", "That would be exceptionally interesting! I wouldn't have a lot of chance to shore up that flank, it'dbe a fair and square win. In any case, good luck, and sorry about this, again.", "Your good, I (almost definitly) would have done the same.", "I normally don't, just because I feel like actually being trustworthy most of the time generally improves the game culture. Or maybe I'm just soft and making excuses, hard to say lol", "🤷‍♂️", "Well this next turn is going to be weird as hell, however it turns out.", "An outstanding move on your part by the way, the Italians and British are not being as enthusiastic of Revanchists as I was hoping.", "What do you mean outstanding move?", "as in which one 😏", "The one where you somehow convinced the English to side with you, mostly.", "That coalition finally came through, maybe just in time as well." ]
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11
[ "How’s it going Russia?", "Hi Austria, how's your relationship with Turkey?", "Pretty basic so far, how about you?", "Ouch, so aggressive", "Living for the bounce!", "I could say the same thing to you", "How’s that?", "rumania is yours if you want it!", "Sounds good!" ]
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11
[ "Hi there england! We haven’t talked yet", "we have not. I think i'm most interested in what your stance on Russia and Germany are. Particularly Germany. I'm not sure I can trust them yet.", "They have been nice to me but have not really wanted to share their plans unfortunately.", "Me and him are both worried about russia though, there are rumors of a juggernaut forming.", "I don’t think russia and I will get along, he hasn’t wanted to talk and then he attacked Gal so not a good start to the relationship.", "I’d be curious about your views on Germany and Russia as well", "Willing to chat?", "hello?", "i think my messages didn't go through during the mess up", "we need to join together againt germany", "I was wondering why you didn’t respond", "So what do you think? I see you’re busy gobbling up Russia but France and Germany will quickly get strong and we need to prepare for their march East.", "I mean there isn’t much I can do this season" ]
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[ "Hello Turkey!", "Hi! So often, Austria gets jumped from the get go. I’d prefer that not to happen, since Turkey is usually next. Also, where’s the fun in that?", "Yeah I’d love not to get jumped! Have you heard from Russia much", "No , not yet. Thought he might be the unknown party.", "I finally got a message", "What do you think about supporting me into Rum, either I get Rum and lose Ser or it bounces. Either way we keep russia from a build and I net 1 build either way", "That sounds like a great idea. Serbia will be the mover?", "Yes", "Have you talked with russia much do you think they’re full on trying to attack me?", "I could also support you if you want to do it that way. Then you could get an extra build if it worked", "I think it would be better for you to take Rumania than I. And my gut tells me that your neigbors are looking to gang up on you. That's not good for me, since I'm still stuck in this corner. 😦", "Which neighbors?", "Germany.", "Italy isn't too friendly towards you right now.", "And I haven't really talked with Russia yet.", "Let's talk '02. Let's say you take Rumania. That will leave Serbia and Greece open. Who gets what?", "I get Serbia you get Gre? That would leave us at 2 and 2", "that is a fair swap.", "Okay great, I’ll head into Rum then", "Well we don’t trust each other", "well, Russia told me that he was going to bounce me in the black sea. I figured, what's the worst that could happen? you bounce him in Rumania? If i support you in, you only get one build. So, since you said you were cool with me having greece in the long term, why not go for it in the short term?", "yeah, I didn't talk to you about going to greece, but ... this isn't chutes and ladders. \n\nHowever, we're now in really good position to make short work of Russia if we work together. Thoughts?", "Yeah I would love support into Rum, how would you eventually wanna divide things?", "I get Greece. And then we split Italy. Also, I'd appreciate a boost into Sevastapol, but the rest of Russia would be yours.", "The trick will be getting to Italy before France does. What would help is if Italy would head West towards France. That'll leave his back door open for us. Maybe if you told him that you didn't have any interest in helping against Turkey and that he should make a go another direction, but ... then again ... after bouncing in Trieste twice in a row, he might not be super interested in working with you.", "We arranged bouncing in Tri, I might be able to convince him since France build that fleet in Mar", "Which unit do you want supported into Rumania?", "I’ll move Ser in", "Are we still good?", "Yes.", "I’m cutting Sev and supporting ser-rum. I assume since I haven’t heard anything from Russia he thinks he’s working with you.", "I’d support yourself to hold in Galicia, but you might have other designs for your units.", "If you think I should then I will", "Either that or keep being aggressive.", "It’d be nice to bounce him in Ukraine and force a retreat off the board.", "I’m sorry I didn’t trust you, everything I was seeing made me feel like you were allied with Russia", "Hmmm. Where do we go next?", "Well I guess my first question is whether or not you still trust me. You can ask Italy or Germany, I thought I saw a juggernaut forming and that would have been the end of my game. I had to play it safe especially since you switched moves on me last fall.", "I understand how you could say the same about me but I’m in the more vulnerable position.", "It’s possible that you could take Rum this turn if Russia doesn’t defend it. They seem like a bit of a wild card so who knows what they will decide to do. You could go for that on your own and when you see that I don’t attack you this season you might be able to trust me enough to move this forward.", "I think ... I think you have Budapest vulnerable. I’d appreciate it if UKR either went for Moscow or Sevastopol. We have to worry about the Western Triple.", "So, let’s get our armies into Russia and counter Germany there.", "Do you think you can get me into Sev?", "Like can you commit BLA to supporting me in", "Well, that fleet is busy attacking Rumania. I would like a build, which I think is fair.", "What is Serbia doing? Maybe Serbia can support me into Rumania?", "I think I need to protect my homeland with Ser", "But ... me trusting you, after you lied to me ... that's a tall order. I'm not closed off to it, but I'd like to know if you know what the Italian is planning on doing.", "I understand that you would want a build, but then there is no reason for me to attack Sev", "Well, SEV could be supporting GAL back to Rumania.", "Well to be completely honest we were gonna attack you because I was convinced that you were allied with Russia so I have some stuff to figure out", "I think our first order is deciding what we think russia is gonna do", "I know that it doesn't benefit you any, and I think your better move it to go for Moscow.", "I might be able to convince Italy to back up since they have the French to deal with", "I would appreciate that.", "Game moves tonight at midnight right", "I think that Russia is probably on the weaker end of the spectrum. I think that he goes defensive.", "He might lash out at Vienna, but it is extremely unlikely that he goes for Budapest while you move to Vienna.", "I think, honestly, that he supports himself back into Rumania and covers Moscow.", "Which is why I was requesting that you go for Sevastopol, cutting it's support.", "That would be the smart move, he seems irrational though. He doesn’t really negotiate and is very aggressive", "yes, I don't disagree. I'm a little disappointed that you thought I was going to blindly ally with him!", "What do you think Italy is going to do with A Greece?", "was he supposed to support you into Bulgaria?", "He just offered but I’m explaining to him that you attacked Russia last turn, he didn’t realize", "I've asked him to allow us to go after Russia while he gets into a better position against France. We need to drive a wedge into this Western Triple.", "Ok, I now realize that there's no Western Triple. Instead, it's an FG - which is just as bad for you guys, since Germany is already into Russia. Here's my idea, and take it or leave it ... but I suggest that he keep rotating his fleets out (maybe move towards WES and TUN) while you backfill ION. He builds a fleet in ROM and you convoy him into NAP in the Spring. Now he's got three fleets in play while France is trying to land a unit on England. Meanwhile, you move your army out of SER and towards Munich and I move BUL/RUM north into SEV, MOS, and WAR. It's a logical expansion for all of us and presents each of us with room to grow and peace in the Balkans.", "I’m gonna have to think about it because so far germany has been a good friend for me this game", "Right. And where is he going to go next?", "And when you say good friend ... what supply centers did he help you into? 🙂", "Totally understandable, just has been giving good information and stuff. Right now his plan is to eat France after england (could be a lie but I would believe it)", "Right ... with what units?", "France has three armies. If he gets into England, he'll get more builds. Unless you're going to help him get past FRance in the south, he'll have armies in France for defense. And if you're anti-Italy ... then we should be having a totally different conversation!", "I'm not saying that you should sign up 100% for the \"go after Germany\" party. But, I've presented you with a fair proposal and it doesn't require you to do anything that's against your interests. And if it can clear up your border in the south, it can let you access \"where the dots are,\" which for you - is Germany.", "I gotcha, I’ve gotta eat dinner right now but how late tonight will you be able to chat", "I'll be around. Either on the computer or on my phone.", "Okay I’m reading your proposal again and are you saying you would get all of russia?", "I now realize what I wrote, but I do need an outlet. If you want to see me nothing but bottled up, and without an outlet for expansion ... we need to have another kind of conversation.", "Not without exchanging some of those centers for Rumania and/or Bulgaria.", "I'm also totally down with attacking through Italy and pouring fleets into the Med. But, I am under the impression that you want to ally with him and want to find some way to work together with you.", "I do not want you bottled up, bottled up turkey usually attacks Austria.", "I agree with that sentiment.", "What would your thoughts be if I could get Germany to support Ukr into War", "I think that would be awesome", "it would be difficult to defend, but is the right move for you. worry about holding it later, get the bulwark against his growth now.", "Okay we’ll go ahead with that then", "What will happen with Serbia and Greece?", "Not sure, what would you vote for", "Well, I'd prefer it if you didn't cut Bulgaria's support of an attack on Rumania.", "Of course not, I was probably just gonna support gre holding", "If you trust italy not to go after Serbia, then you could rotate your armies out (and probably bounce in one/both of them).", "Yeah still figuring that it", "Out", "Is he sending his fleet to EMS or towards France?", "Well, you know which direction I'd prefer.", "I’m hoping toward France, I told him he should", "I've enjoyed speaking with you, by the way.", "I hope that we can continue to have these kinds of dialogues.", "Yeah you as well, it’s good to find people that are actually able to negotiate and stuff. I hope we can get past our early struggles", "do you play any face-to-face?", "Not much, hard to get 7 people together", "Where abouts do you live (general area, I'm not trying to cyberstalk you)?", "I go to Michigan state", "there's a sizeable hobby in Chicago", "But I don't think East Lansing is THAT close.", "Haha no it is not", "I went to college in Cleveland and could never get a game together. I did travel to tournaments, though. They're a lot of fun as long as you can get over yourself and realize that every game is an opportunity to improve.", "How do tournaments work?", "Three to four, more or less random, board draws. Usually you score your best three results. There are a few different scoring systems, but generally speaking - if you get good results, you'll do well.", "Seems fun, how do the negotiations go? Like do you pull people aside", "yes, usually it's in a big room - like a hotel ballroom or dormitory basement", "and there's 3-5 boards going on simultaneously", "so, there's about 10-30 conversations going simultaneously.", "Okay so people know who you’re talking to, that is one thing I like about this is like I could be talking to russia and you wouldn’t know it", "Obviously I’m not in this case", "Or maybe you are ....", "Hahahaha", "By the way, if Serbia isn't moving, can it support CON-RUM?", "It’s moving", "May I ask where?", "Bud", "I'll trust you on this one.", "Italy has gotten himself way out of position. I know you like him, but ... he’s not taking advantage of his opportunity against France and is wide open to attack by us. You could go to Greece and I could go to Rumania and we’d have peace. (I’d have to hold for a turn, so that he doesn’t retreat to Bulgaria).", "Yeah let’s look at the builds first", "I’m also a little frustrated with him because he hasn’t replied to a single one of my messages in days (not that I’m overloading him, but this needs to be a two way conversation - I mean, that’s what we’re being compensated for!).", "Yeah he hasn’t chatted a ton with me either", "🤷‍♂️", "you around? I'm weighing my build options.", "any thoughts? Fleet versus Army?", "Alright. We doing this?", "My bad, didn’t see the notifications", "So obviously you’re gonna kick Italy out of your area, are you gonna take Sev this turn?", "Well, I’d like to coordinate my move with you. Are you taking Greece? He’d be down to one Army and since he doesn’t seem interested in defending his dots from France, you and I might as well go after them.", "Honestly I have to decide how much I trust you vs how much faith I have in him. Because at this point in the game I still need an ally.", "I’d like for you to take Sev, it we need russia to lose more units so that we can finish him before germany is too strong.", "I feel like despite our rocky start you and I have communicated enough that we can declare a full alliance though", "Regarding Sev, I’d like to take it this year. Maybe in the Fall?", "I think we can definitely partner up and work together to both our benefit. I also don’t think it will be particularly difficult to separate our forces. I only have two armies, so I’m not much of a threat to you and you only have one fleet - so I’m not worried about you coming after me by yourself. The wild card in all of this is Italy, and he’s only got one fleet over by me and a French unit in Piedmont.", "Right now I have Bulgaria supporting Serbia into Greece. I’ll rotate up the coast towards Sevastopol in the Fall and we’ll convoy you onto the boot as soon as possible. I mean ... that’s a strong position for you.", "If we were to follow this sort of path where do you see your expansion going? You can get Sev, Tun, and Nap, then what", "Also I don’t need your support into Gre, I would rather you took Sev this turn", "Expansion: maybe mos and STP? I’m assuming you’re going to head west towards Germany in this scenario. Otherwise, this is only a 10 year game, I don’t have grand designs on a solo victory or anything.", "Ok. I will hold in Bulgaria so that Italy can’t retreat there. And I’ll take out Sev. You’re not dislodging Galicia, are you? I’m worried about him retreating to Rumania.", "Sounds good, I am not dislodging", "OK.", "I know you're choosing between working with Italy and working with me. The path I'm offering to you allows you to control your own growth and depend on yourself for gains - and making it so that our border is unit-less. The path of working with Italy also allows you to grow, but you'll be depending on someone else for help after the initial gain and you'll have to dedicate units to the balkans until I'm fully eliminated from the game. Both are legitimate choices, but I think my offer is superior based on merit. I've demonstrated that I'm a reliable partner, that I make solid moves and do what I say.", "Yeah I gotcha, I just hate playing as austria and don’t have a lot of successful experience. Often due to Turkey. That and the beginning of this game has made me cautious.", "But Italy’s attack on you is uncoordinated with me and not really going anywhere and it’s hard to work with that", "I’m curious what your plan is. You have a lot of armies on my border.", "Yeah I gotta move those, I’m sorry I was just playing cautious. Hopefully Russia has actually quit that would make things much easier. I will definitely have to go cover Tri because Italy is in Ven and pissed at me", "I’m moving EMS-ION. Can you support it in with Greece?", "(EAS)", "Yes", "Will you support me into años", "Mos", "I was gonna self bounce in Rumania", "Is Germany kicking you out of Warsaw?", "No but we’re trying to transfer it, it was a condition of me getting it first", "I can’t this year. He’s got that pesky A Galicia", "Okay it’s all good", "Hey, I wanted to say - is it something you need to prevent the loss of a center? Because if Germany is going to start trying to take dots off of you, you need help into Moscow more than I need to guarantee I don’t lose Rumania. In fact, I can just cover Rum with Bulgaria. You’re not going to stab me for one dot, I certainly hope.", "I am not, yeah I was gonna make that argument but wait until we got closer to when moves were due", "And yes that would help guarantee that I don’t lose one", "So how’s that sounding", "Ok. I'm down for working together for mutual benefit. I'd appreciate it if you began moving your units away from my dots.", "Was planning on it", "Glad I trusted you. I think we’re past the awkward phase of our relationship.", "I hope so, now I need to make sure france is just doing what they did to get into Ven", "Or end around on Germany", "That would be a premature stab", "might be his last real chance.", "how do you want to proceed? Can you support ION to hold? I'd like to convoy my army into Apulia. We can gut Italy like a trout, if that's what you'd like to do. Otherwise, we could look at getting you back into Warsaw. Is Germany where you want to head next?", "I kinda have to take care of Italy first so that front is secured", "Ok. Are you ok with the convoy to Apulia?", "Yeah of course", "Or do you want Italy all for yourself! 😊", "No we could use the help!", "Are you cool with me displacing the last Russian troop so that we don’t have to deal with it", "Also have you reached out to France about your move?", "Let me look at the map.", "And I’m not sure it’s a good idea to tell France what my plans are regarding Italy. I don’t think he’s interested in sharing the prize.", "I mean, sure. Which unit is going in? I can support it.", "And you can focus on grabbing STP or getting position on Warsaw or Munich.", "Gal is going in", "And France asked me to coordinate so it’s possible that he would want to with you", "Are you coordinating with him? I’d just dislodge Tyrolia - if he retreats into Munich, that’s a win for you. If he takes Venice, we’ll get you in there in the Fall.", "Not really coordinating no", "Ok, cool. I don't really need to know, and I'll find out in two hours, but I'm wondering if you'll have two units on Venice in the fall - giving us three.", "I’m still not sure", "Ughhh. This is going to be a slog. I guess we’ll be trading centers while Germany and France get bigger. 🤷‍♂️", "Well this will be fun", "Unnecessary, though.", "Your call.", "Because it’s highly unlikely France will get to me before Germany comes for you.", "When you wish washed on Venice and suggested collaboration with France, I changed all my orders.", "I only did it because I didn’t trust you, I would have trusted you if you had built that army in Smy", "Ok. You never once said anything to me bout it.", "Didn’t want you to be on to me knowing", "I'm sad, because it feels like I lost a friend. I really enjoyed talking and strategizing with you.", "We really couldn’t trust each other, we both stabbed on the same turn twice", "what other stab? Are you referring to Fall '01? Because I think it's impossible to stab someone in '01.", "Probably what I’m talking about it. How is it impossible? We both went back on an agreement", "1901 is the feeling out year.", "I’d have to look back and see what year I’m thinking of but does it really matter", "Ok, so here's the thing. One of two things is going to happen. Germany is going to come after you (unlikely) or Germany is going to pour into France (much more likely).", "But, with either scenario, I'm not sure how productive a land war with me is going to be for your long term survival.", "Agreed, I honestly don’t think I can win this game", "well, neither of us is going to solo in 6 years.", "Germany ... could.", "All he needs is Moscow and one of your centers/Marseilles. Because he has fleet superiority in the north and Italy just took a unit off the board.", "Not probable, but possible. but it makes sense, he's giving me the hard sell to attack you and offering all sorts of long term assistance.", "Yeah I think he’s gonna solo unless France attacks him", "France can't attack him.", "what is FRance going to attack him with?", "I’m not saying like this season", "I mean, literally, what is he going to attack him with.", "his fleets?", "Wow yeah he does have way too many fleets", "Look, we're not so stuck fighting each other. I think we both can admit that neither of us is going to \"win\" this game. But, I'd really prefer not to \"lose\" the game to a solo.", "So what do you propose", "That we get you into Warsaw.", "I'm being 100% serious. My orders right now are for a full scale attack on you. But I'm willing to change them to be cooperative if I feel like you're being honest with me and are actually open to working together. I also don't \"need\" to get a dot right now and am willing for you to gain - if it's off of Germany.", "I will change SEV to supporting MOS to hold. UKR will support RUM-GAL, and I suggest you try to get into BOH so that you can cut SIL's support of WAR to hold.", "I could be wrong, and Germany could not go after FRance and instead go after you full bore. If he does, these are EXACTLY the orders you need to use anyway. But this prevents the solo by Germany. Which he could get if you and I fight. It would be close, but France is totally incompetent and does not have the units to mount an actual defense. If France had build an Army in Paris, this would be a totally different conversation. But he built a fleet in Brest.", "You could also take advantage of the situation to re-position your fleet to threaten Venice and take advantage of the French-German situation, but that's your call. I'd appreciate it if you didn't try to take advantage of this situation and come at me full bore, but - even if you did come at me strong, I'm not sure you gain much.", "And you would risk A LOT by exposing your back to Germany. Because if you do come after me, you can be damn sure I'm helping him into Moscow and anywhere else I can.", "Yeah I’ll try and come up with the best moves for me, I would be willing to try and work with you because even if you’re lying to me I was gonna lose anyways", "I’m hoping you realize that as well.", "We have time before the next orders are due", "Germany is asking for support into Moscow.", "So, he might be setting up for a move into Galicia. He’s not really being open about his moves.", "Interesting", "So ... what do you want to do?", "Good morning!", "Okay I’m sorry I haven’t been around, you able to talk?", "What lies were you going to waste my time with on a Sunday evening?", "None, you told me that you currently had an all out attack planned on me until we talked and then we were never able to talk", "I admit that it was kind of my fault we never talked but I couldn’t have faith that you changed your orders since we hadn’t talked", "Go after Warsaw, I’ll build fleets and DMZ our borders. Harass me, and I’ll be a headache for you.", "// I’m disappointed in you. Not in your moves, but that you’ve being compensated to communicate with other players and you’re apparently comfortable taking money for something and not doing it. That speaks volumes about you. /:", "I literally told you my orders. You chose to ignore them.", "That seems a bit dramatic", "🤷‍♂️ I’m interested to see if Germany can solo here. It’ll be close.", "I mean I still would acknowledge that we should not fight if we want any chance at winning", "But are we ever gonna trust each other", "You never stopped lying to me. Show me the good faith moves you never actually made, and I’ll leave you to fight off Germany. But, I know that you’re just bullshitting me in order to marginally improve your position against me.", "I know man I’m honestly sorry", "I hate Austria and am terrible at playing it. I can’t ever trust anyone and freak out every time I play as them. I’ve been a dick this game because of it", "I see ... I see that you can't help yourself. Go after Germany, stop coming after me.", "I don’t know what that means", "Enjoy your disband. You should have taken the free dots in Warsaw and Moscow.", "Would you mind keeping Germany from getting a solo?", "Planning on it", "Good luck. Can’t see how he’d stop you I’m going to continue a defensive play. Your commitment to the anti-turkey strategy is impressive", "You’re so full of it!", "You have plenty of easy centers, and you still relentlessly attack me!", "If you’re going to throw the solo, be definitive about it! Support him into your own centers and be done with it! Or have a “if you don’t do X, I’ll do Y,” where why is throw the solo.", "But be rational, I’m not going to just give you my dots!", "I truthfully don’t think that he is going to solo", "I will stop attacking you if you move on Warsaw and Vienna.", "Moscow is his 18th", "Fuck it yeah I’ll attack him, believe me if you want I know you have issues with it and I don’t blame you", "I’ve felt, for a while, that your best possible result was peace with Italy and me to stop Germany. So, I want to believe you. I won’t attack you any more.", "I’m supporting myself to hold. I ask that you play defense.", "And grab a German dot.", "You can take Sev", "I think I have to. Can you support me into UKR and support Italy into Tyrol?", "I can’t support you but I can support him", "why can't you support me? what else would A Warsaw be doing?", "nicely done. nicely, nicely done.", "The key to not losing to the solo is - assuming the loss of Portugal (which is two coin flips) - not losing 2 of the 3 Russian centers. You're going to lose STP. The question then becomes, how to we preserve Warsaw? My recommendation is: \nA: VIE S TYR - BOH\nA: WAR - UKR\nA: STP - MOS\nA: BUD - GAL\nI: TYR - BOH\nI: TRI - TYR\nI: VEN - PIE\nI: TUS S VEN - PIE\nT: SEV - UKR\nT: RUM S WAR - UKR\nT: ANK - SEV (Convoy)\n\nThis plan destroys UKR or ensures that we control it. It places units in places that they can cut supports on Warsaw which dramatically increases our odds of taking it back if we loose it or maintaining it if we don't. Chances are, if STP is dislodged, it will be able to retreat to LVN. Worst case is that Germany just rotates his armies north - supporting himself into LVN and getting three on Warsaw (LVN, PRU, and SIL. But, we'll either be in Moscow or Galicia (probably both) and Ukraine. We'll also have two on Munich and he can either keep munich or go after Warsaw.\n\nThe other option is to support ourselves into Galicia and Ukraine. I'm willing to do as you suggest.", "I like your first plan with the moves all laid out", "Sorry for taking so long", "I should have supported you into Ukraine.", "It is what it is", "I flipped a coin. It was wasn’t an effort to weaken you." ]
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11
[ "Hey Austria, how are you?", "Good how about you", "Wow big moves into ENG", "Eh, kinda typical opening", "England upset about it?", "They seem fine, obviously not going to be to great of a relationship from this point out though.", "Yeah, how about germany? I’ve been talking to him a decent amount. He is very chatty but doesn’t seem to give away much", "I would agree with that. Me and Germany are on good terms", "would you be interested in going after Italy with me?", "Not right now no, I have to figure out my russia and turkey situation", "Looks like you and germany are allied? Good luck versus england", "Thanks. I would like you to re-consider my proposal. You have become a very powerful country, and if you decide to turn on Italy, there is nothing they can do between the two of us. Right now Turkey and Russia are standing each other off, and there is no immediate threat from either of them for you. Italy will be easy supply centers. I would of course support you into their territory, provided you return the favor. We could work out more details if your interested", "I have to check the board more, I need to balance attacking Russia while handling Italy. Also turkey and I are currently friendly but who knows when he will change his mind", "But yes we should at least communicate", "so... what do you think?", "I can’t commit to a full attack yet, if Russia is MIA again then I should be able to", "k", "Just wanted you to know, my move into Tyr is not at all meant aggresivly at you. I am only going to use it to strong-arm into venice", "I am hoping that is true, would have been good of you to talk about it with me", "Wanna talk about Italy?", "sure", "Would you be willing to support Tyr to venice? In return I will support you into one of italys centers in the future. This move will also get my troop out of Tyr, which, understandably, you don't like", "You know what, on second thought, it's fine. I can make it into venice on my own, by poking tuscany with LYO", "Okay sounds good, either way I’ll be happy to see Tyr moved!", "Ok, I didn't think Germany would betray me but they did. No matter what situation your in, we have to all start working together to stop Germany or they will win.", "Sending this to everyone btw", "You and Turkey are the most importand. Italy and England are basically out of the game anyways. We can definitly still stop germany, but in order for that to happen you and Turkey are going to have to stop fighting, right away, and work together to get in through germanies back door. They are sending basically all of their units to my hometown, which means they are going to be vulnerable against you guys.", "Understood, you’re gonna have to be a go between with me and turkey though because he hates me", "Agreed. I will talk to him more now", "Ok, I spoke with turkey and they are on board. So the plan is for you to send some units over to germany, where you could get some free builds, while all of their units are occupied with attacking me" ]
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11
[ "Hello Russia, we should discuss Scandinavia and Germany. I think that's where we will be overlapping. Have you decided where you stand with germany?", "Hi England - We are friendly right now, trying to figure out where they're headed. Can we split Sweden and Norway up North and leave it at a truce for now?", "it seems germany and France are teaming up against me. Do you think we can work together against Germany?", "I don't know, 2 fleets east seems pretty hostile to Russia to me!!", "Well if it makes you feel any better I’ll be using a fleet to take Norway and my second fleet is covering London.", "perfect, so right on track for our norway-sweden split up north. Happy to aid in the fight against germany and france as well", "Great to hear", "What’s with the hold in barents???", "can you not support germany in sweden this round?", "Id plan to move army, so its not going anywhere once it gets there", "Yeah but you could have supported me into Denmark. We are both in bad positions right now. We need to work together better.", "sure thing, but you're the one whose been supporting germany up until now..." ]
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[ 2, 3 ]
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[ "How’s it going? I usually bounce in the Black Sea but am always open to doing something else with your fleet.", "I hope you're doing well. i'm a little under the weather myself, i was at a board game convention all weekend and I think I got a ConCough.", "Oh no, I'm sorry to hear that! I too usually do in the black sea bounce, and old habits might die hard.", "All good in the neighborhood", "I’ll stay out of Armenia.", "Appreciate it!", "How's your relationship with Italy and Austria? If you're leaning towards attacking one over the other, I'd be interested in teaming up", "I'd prefer to make a go at Austria first, then I'll crank out fleets and deal with Italy.", "I find Austria and Italy's opening moves to be... interesting.", "Shall we bounce in the black sea again?", "\"bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce\"", "What are you thinking re Austria? (Hopefully, it's not \"they're my best friends against russia!\")", "Germany will help take care of Austria if we want to team up", "Do you want Germany getting part of Austria?", "But I like the overall concept of ya working together. The RT alliance is a strong one.", "the ya was a typo. I like the overall concept of US working together. 🙂", "I'm a little surprised to be in the Black Sea, to be honest. I thought we were going to bounce there. What are your feelings on it? From my perspective, I have no plans on attacking you but I'd rather be in it that have you in it.", "(I thought we were going to bounce there because of what you wrote, which was \"bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce.\")", "A gift from me to you, as a sign of goodwill", "Well, I have no issue with you guaranteeing your build in Rumania. I take it you trusted the Austrian not to go to Galicia, would you like support to hold it against the (I assume) three armies he's about to have facing it? Obviously, this depends on his build, but i assume it's going to be A BUD.", "I’m surprised you didn’t build in a Moscow. What are your thoughts about Galicia?", "You need help or are you planning something else?", "sorry was off the grid with no internet for the large chunk of the weekend!", "im hoping nothing hostile is coming my way", "i have no intention of extending south, so i think our natural alliance should continue", "It would seem that everyone ganged up on you simultaneously.", "Sometimes that will happen when no one hears from a player for days. Any thoughts on our current situation?", "hard when you work at government and cant have phone for 10 hours a day, then night skool!", "I too work in a SCIF.", "last week I had the flu, though - so plenty of time for chit chatting with the college kids we seem to be playing with.", "Mind if I take Rumania?", "Scif life!!", "Rumania is all yours, be my guest", "Thanks. I won't take Sevastopol until you say it's ok. I've got an Austro-Italian problem and I thought I could buy off the Austrian, but he seems to be dead set on attacking me.", "Thank you again for Rumania. My offer on Sev still stands.", "Are you still with us?", "Hello?" ]
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[ 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 2, 2, 2, 2 ]
[ 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1 ]
[ 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2 ]
[ 18, 69, 70, 72, 73, 109, 111, 151, 223, 225, 277, 278, 279, 286, 287, 297, 327, 328, 329, 330, 395, 397, 412, 413, 418, 496, 514, 614, 629, 630, 631, 633, 634, 636, 710, 928, 983 ]
[ 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36 ]
[ 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 3, 4 ]
[ 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 3, 3 ]
[ 3, 3, 4, 3, 3, 4, 4, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 4, 4, 5, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 4, 5, 6, 6 ]
[ 19, 19, 1, 19, 19, 1, 1, 19, 19, 19, 1, 1, 1, 19, 19, 19, 19, 19, 1, 19, 19, 19, 1, 1, 1, 19, 19, 1, 19, 19, 19, 1, 1, 19, 1, 5, 5 ]
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[ "Hey Russia, how is it over there in the east?", "Hi France, all good in the east, how goes the western front? UK and Germany seem to be plotting each other's destruction - Any thoughts on how you fit into that?", "How do you know they are plotting each-others destruction? Not sure which side to take yet.", "Inception obviously", "One could say that. If I were you I wouldn't worry about it because you *definitly* want a strong England, and germany is easy pickings if you go in at the right time.", "Germany is going to move into sweden with englands support. Germany is also moving two armies east.", "how do you know?", "see?", "yeah Germany has done me real dirty these last couple of moves", "eh not that bad. althought they are sending two units over to you." ]
[ 1, 1, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 ]
[ 2, 0, 2, 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2 ]
[ 6, 2, 6, 2, 6, 6, 2, 6, 2, 6 ]
[ 2, 6, 2, 6, 2, 2, 6, 2, 6, 2 ]
[ 24, 71, 80, 113, 209, 402, 416, 594, 611, 654 ]
[ 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 ]
[ 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4 ]
[ 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 ]
[ 3, 4, 3, 4, 3, 6, 5, 6, 5, 6 ]
[ 19, 1, 19, 1, 19, 1, 19, 1, 19, 1 ]
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[ "Hey England, how are you? I would like to discuss an England/France alliance with you, aimed at taking Germany out quickly. I think if we work together and can trust each other, this could be an amazingly strong alliance. No matter what you decide, I think it would be in both our favor's to leave the English Channel as a DMZ. Let me know if you're interested and we can coordinate moves.\nLooking forwards to a great game, and good luck!", "Hello France, I too am interested in moving east with you and I think a channel DMZ is a great idea. I'll be doing a fairly standard English opening so let's see how russia and germany open to plan tactics next season.", "Sounds good", "I'm going to do a standard opening too, MAO, Spain, and burgundy", "Stab out the gate? Interesting tactics.", "Haha, sorry. Maybe we can work together sometime in the future(if you were willing to trust me😂 ). Good luck though.", "Ok, I didn't think Germany would betray me but they did. No matter what situation your in, we have to all start working together to stop Germany or they will win.", "Sending this to everyone btw", "Are you going to back off?", "how do you feel about supporting me into the north sea?", "will do, with both fleets.", "I was going to support myself in, but this actually works out a lot better", "I thought you were supporting me in! What happened? We gotta get him out of N Sea", "oh god, i totally forgot about that. i honestly meant to. the 14 days just made me forget", "So what now?", "I'm supporting you into Nth with one fleet", "i clearly didn't get this message in time", "i think thats it, we're toast" ]
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[ 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1, 2, 2 ]
[ 6, 3, 6, 6, 3, 6, 6, 6, 3, 3, 6, 6, 3, 6, 3, 6, 3, 3 ]
[ 3, 6, 3, 3, 6, 3, 3, 3, 6, 6, 3, 3, 6, 3, 6, 3, 6, 6 ]
[ 21, 46, 66, 67, 157, 271, 1121, 1122, 1155, 1244, 1245, 1246, 1289, 1306, 1307, 1310, 1324, 1325 ]
[ 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 ]
[ 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5 ]
[ 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6 ]
[ 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 8, 8, 2, 2, 6, 6, 2, 7, 2, 7, 2, 2 ]
[ 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 6, 6, 24, 22, 4, 4, 23, 5, 23, 5, 20, 20 ]
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[ "Hey Turkey, how are you?", "I’m doing great!! You?", "Pretty good. I would watch out for Australian/Russian alliance, heard from Austria they were doing that.", "The Australians? Are they landing at Galipoli?", "All I heard was that they and russia were going to try to take you out", "Well, they’re not off to a good start!", "true.", "Oh brother ... What's stopping Germany from walking into Paris?", "Ok, I didn't think Germany would betray me but they did. No matter what situation your in, we have to all start working together to stop Germany or they will win.", "Sending this to everyone btw", "You and Austria are the most importand. Italy and England are basically out of the game anyways. We can definitly still stop germany, but in order for that to happen you and austria are going to have to stop fighting, right away, and work together to get in through germanies back door. They are sending basically all of their units to my hometown, which means they are going to be vulnerable against you guys.", "Hello, Turkey?", "Hello???", "Helloooo, turkey", "I don’t understand these messages or tone. Are there moves you’d like to coordinate? I’d appreciate it if you moved to Ionian, but I figure you have more important things to do" ]
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[ 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2 ]
[ 6, 1, 6, 1, 6, 1, 6, 1, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 1 ]
[ 1, 6, 1, 6, 1, 6, 1, 6, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 6 ]
[ 26, 35, 273, 285, 307, 325, 350, 1041, 1119, 1124, 1129, 1148, 1152, 1158, 1163 ]
[ 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 ]
[ 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4 ]
[ 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4 ]
[ 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 6, 6, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 6 ]
[ 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 20, 2, 20, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 20 ]
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Dataset Card for HateOffensive

Dataset Summary

This dataset contains pairwise conversations annotated by the sender and the receiver for deception (and conversely truthfulness). The 17,289 messages are gathered from 12 games.

Supported Tasks and Leaderboards

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Languages

English

Dataset Structure

Data Instances

{
"messages": 
["Greetings Sultan!\n\nAs your neighbor I would like to propose an alliance! What are your views on the board so far?", "I think an alliance would be great! Perhaps a dmz in the Black Sea would be a good idea to solidify this alliance?\n\nAs for my views on the board, my first moves will be Western into the Balkans and Mediterranean Sea.", "Sounds good lets call a dmz in the black sea", "What's our move this year?", "I've been away from the game for a while", "Not sure yet, what are your thoughts?", "Well I'm pretty worried about Germany attacking me (and Austria to a lesser extent) so im headed west. It looks like Italy's landing a army in Syr this fall unless you can stop it", "That sounds good to me. I'll move to defend against Italy while you move west. If it's not too much too ask, I'd like to request that you withdraw your fleet from bla.", "Oh sorry missed the msg to move out of bl sea ill do that this turn. I did bring my army down into Armenia, To help you expel the Italian. It looks like Austria and Italy are working together. If we have a chance in the region you should probably use smy to protect con. We can't afford to lose con.", "I'll defend con from both ank and smy.", "Hey sorry for stabbing you earlier, it was an especially hard choice since Turkey is usually my country of choice. It's cool we got to do this study huh?"], 
"sender_labels": [false, true, false, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true], 
"receiver_labels": [true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, "NOANNOTATION"], 
"speakers": ["russia", "turkey", "russia", "russia", "russia", "turkey", "russia", "turkey", "russia", "turkey", "russia"], 
"receivers": ["turkey", "russia", "turkey", "turkey", "turkey", "russia", "turkey", "russia", "turkey", "russia", "turkey"], 
"absolute_message_index": [78, 107, 145, 370, 371, 374, 415, 420, 495, 497, 717], 
"relative_message_index": [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10], 
"seasons": ["Spring", "Spring", "Spring", "Spring", "Spring", "Spring", "Fall", "Fall", "Spring", "Spring", "Fall"], 
"years": ["1901", "1901", "1901", "1902", "1902", "1902", "1902", "1902", "1903", "1903", "1905"], 
"game_score": ["4", "3", "4", "5", "5", "4", "5", "4", "5", "3", "7"],
"game_score_delta": ["1", "-1", "1", "1", "1", "-1", "1", "-1", "2", "-2", "7"], 
"players": ["russia", "turkey"], 
"game_id": 10
}

Data Fields

  • speakers: the sender of the message (string format. Seven possible values: russia, turkey, england, austria, germany, france, italy)
  • receivers: the receiver of the message (string format. Seven possible values: russia, turkey, england, austria, germany, france, italy)
  • messages: the raw message string (string format. ranges in length from one word to paragraphs in length)
  • sender_labels: indicates if the sender of the message selected that the message is truthful, true, or deceptive, false. This is used for our ACTUAL_LIE calculation (true/false which can be bool or string format)
  • receiver_labels: indicates if the receiver of the message selected that the message is perceived as truthful, true, or deceptive, false. In <10% of the cases, no annotation was received. This is used for our SUSPECTED_LIE calculation (string format. true/false/"NOANNOTATION" )
  • game_score: the current game score---supply centers---of the sender (string format that ranges can range from 0 to 18)
  • game_score_delta: the current game score---supply centers---of the sender minus the game score of the recipient (string format that ranges from -18 to 18)
  • absolute_message_index: the index the message is in the entire game, across all dialogs (int format)
  • relative_message_index: the index of the message in the current dialog (int format)
  • seasons: the season in Diplomacy, associated with the year (string format. Spring, Fall, Winter)
  • years: the year in Diplomacy, associated with the season (string format. 1901 through 1918)
  • game_id: which of the 12 games the dialog comes from (int format ranging from 1 to 12)

Data Splits

Train, Test and Validation splits

Dataset Creation

Curation Rationale

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Source Data

Initial Data Collection and Normalization

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Who are the source language producers?

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Annotations

Annotation process

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Who are the annotators?

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Personal and Sensitive Information

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Considerations for Using the Data

Social Impact of Dataset

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Discussion of Biases

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Other Known Limitations

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Additional Information

Dataset Curators

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Licensing Information

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Citation Information

@inproceedings{Peskov:Cheng:Elgohary:Barrow:Danescu-Niculescu-Mizil:Boyd-Graber-2020, Title = {It Takes Two to Lie: One to Lie and One to Listen}, Author = {Denis Peskov and Benny Cheng and Ahmed Elgohary and Joe Barrow and Cristian Danescu-Niculescu-Mizil and Jordan Boyd-Graber}, Booktitle = {Association for Computational Linguistics}, Year = {2020}, Location = {Seattle}, }

Contributions

Thanks to @MisbahKhan789 for adding this dataset.

Models trained or fine-tuned on diplomacy_detection

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