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ุฅุฐุง ุฃุฑุฏุช ุดูุฆูุง ูู ุงูุญูุงุฉุ ูู ูุฐุง ุงููุธุงู
ุงูุฑุฃุณู
ุงููุ ูู ุณุนุฑ. | if you want something in life, in this capitalistic system, you have a price. |
ุฃู ุดุฎุต ูุฑูุฏ ุดูุฆูุง ูู ูุฐู ุงูุญูุงุฉุ ุชุญุจู ุฃู
ูุงุ | anybody who wants something in this life, you like it or not, |
ูู ุณุนุฑ ููุฐุง ุงูุณุนุฑ ูู ุงูู
ุงู. | you have a price and that price is money. |
ูุคูุงุก ุงููุงุณ ู
ุงูุฏููุง ูุงู ูุงุฏุฑูุง ุนูู ุงูุบูุฑุงู. | those people Mandela was able to forgive. |
ููู ุฅููู ูุง ุฃุฑูุฏ ูู ูุฐู ุงูุฃุดูุงุก ู
ุซูู
ุง ูุฑูุฏูุง ุงูุฑุฆูุณ ุงูุฅูุฑููู ุงูุขุฎุฑ. | and say I do not want all these things like what other african president want. |
ููุฐุง ุงูุณุจุจุ ูู ุงูุขูุ ุดุฎุต ูุญุชุฑู
ู ุงูุฌู
ูุน. | that is why, he is right now, somebody who everybody respects. |
ุบุงูุฏู ุงูุดูุก ููุณูุ ุงูุฏุงูุงู ูุงู
ุง ุงูุดูุก ููุณู. | Gandhi the same thing, the Dalai Lama is the same thing. |
ู ุงูุฃู
ุชุฑูุฒุง ุงูุดูุก ููุณู. | and Mother Teresa is the same thing. |
ู
ุนุธู
ูุคูุงุก ุงููุงุณ ูุฏููู
ูุทุนุฉ ูู
ุงุด 1ุ ูุงุญุฏุฉ. | most of those people they have 1 cloth, one. |
ุงูุธุฑ ุฅูู ุฑุฆูุณ ุฃูุฑูุฌูุงู ู
ุง ุงูุฐู ููููู ุงููุงุณ ุนููุ | look at the president of Uruguay what people are saying about him? |
ุฃููุฑ ุฑุฆูุณ ูู ุงูุนุงูู
. | the poorest president in the world. |
ูููู ูุนุชูุฏ ุฃูู ูุญุชุงุฌ ููุท ู
ู ุฑุงุชุจู. | but he believes that he just needs of his salary. |
ูุฃู ูุฏูู ูู ุงููุงุณ. | because has all the people. |
ุงูุฐูู ูุนูุดูู ุชุญุช ู
ุง ูู ุฃูู ู
ู 1200 ุฏููุงุฑ. | who are living under that which is less than 1200 dollars. |
ูุฐูู ูุฐุง ูู ุญููุง ู
ุง ุฃูููู ุฅู ุงูุฃู
ุฑ ู
ุชุฑูู ููุง ููู ูุง ูู
ููู ุชุนู
ูู
ุฐูู. | so that is really what I am saying that it is up to us but you cannot generalize that. |
ููู ุงูุญู ููู ูุนูุฏ ุฅูู ุงููุงูุนุ ุงูุงุชุตุงู ุจุงููุงุณ. | but the whole solution is coming back down to reality, being connected with people. |
ูุฃููู ูุง ุฃุทูุจ ู
ู ุงููุงุณ ุงูุชุฎูู ุนู
ุง ูุฏููู
. | because I am not asking people to give up what they have. |
ุฃูุง ูุง ุฃุทูุจ ู
ู ุงููุงุณ ุงูุชุฎูู ุนู ุงูู
ุงู ูุฃููู ูู ุฌูุงุญ ุงูุขูุ ูุฐูู ูุฃูุง ูุง ุฃูุนู ุฐูู. | I am not asking people to give up money because I am in suite right now, so I am not doing it. |
ููู ูู ุงูููุช ููุณูุ ููุงู ุญุฏ ุฃุฏูู ูู
ุง ุชุนูู
ูู ูู
ูููู
ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู
ู. | but at the same time, there is a minimum you know you can use. |
ูุฃู ู
ุง ููุนูู ู
ุน ูู ุงูู
ูุงุฑุฏ ุงูุชู ูุฏููุง ูู ูุฐุง ุงูุนุงูู
. | because what we do with all the resources that we have in this world. |
ููุจุบู ุฃูุง ูููู ุฅููุง ููุฑุงุก ู
ุทูููุง. | we should not say we are poor at all. |
ููู ุงูููููุฉ ุงูุชู ููุฒุนุช ุจูุง ูุงูุช ุจุงูุชุณุงูู. | but how it was distributed was in equal. |
ุญุณููุงุ ูุฏููุง ููุช ูุณุคุงู 1 ุขุฎุฑ. | so, we have got time for 1 more question. |
ูุฐููุ ุฃุญุชุงุฌ ุณุคุงูุงู ู
ูุญูุง ูุณูู ุฃุทูุจ ู
ู ูุฐุง ุงูุฑุฌู ููุง ุทุฑุญ ุงูุณุคุงู. | so, I need a burning question and I am going to ask this man here to ask the question. |
ูุนู
ุ ุดูุฑูุง ุฌุฒููุงู ุงูุณูุฏ ุจูุจ ุณุงู
ุจ. | yea, thank you much Mr. Pape Samb. |
ุฃูุง ุฏ. ููุณู ุฃุณููุง ู
ู ุฃูุบูุฏุง. | I am Dr. Youssef Asuqa from Uganda. |
ูุฏู ุชุนููู 1 ูุณุคุงู 1 ููุท. | I have just 1 comment and 1 question. |
ุงูุชุนููู ููุ ุดูุฑูุง ุฌุฒููุงู ููู
ูุธู
ูู ุนูู ูุฐุง ุงูู
ูุถูุน. | the comment is; thank you very much the organizers for these topic. |
ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃูู ูุซูู ุงูุตูุฉ ุฌุฏูุง ุจู ุฃูุฑูููุง. | I think it is very pertinent for Africa. |
ูุฃูุฏ ุฃู ุฃุชูุงูุด ู
ุนู ุจูุจ. | and I would like to argue with you Pape, . |
ุฅูู ู
ู ุฎูุงู ุงููุธุฑ ุฅูู ุงูู
ุดููุงุช ุงูุฃูุฑูููุฉ. | it is through looking at the african problems. |
ุงูููุงุฏุฉ ูู ุงูุณุจุจ. ูู ุดูุก ุขุฎุฑ ูู ุชุฃุซูุฑ. | leadership is the cause. everything else is effect. |
ูุฐููุ ููู
ุง ูุชุนูู ุจู
ุง ูุงู ููููู ุฃุฎู ููุงู ูููู ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃู ูุฏู ู
ุดููุฉ. | so, in respect to what my brother there was saying but I think I have a problem. |
ุนูุฏู
ุง ุชูุธุฑ ุฅูู ุงูุจููุฉ ุงูุชุญุชูุฉ ุงูุถุนููุฉ. | when you look at the poor infrastructure. |
ุนูุฏู
ุง ุชูุธุฑ ุฅูู ุงูู
ุดููุงุช ูุงูุชุนููู
ูู
ุง ุฅูู ุฐูู. | when you look at the problems and education and so forth. |
ูู ุดูุก ุขุฎุฑ ูู ุชุฃุซูุฑ ููู ุงูุณุจุจ ูู ุงูููุงุฏุฉ. | everything else is effect but the cause is leadership. |
ูุฐููุ ูุฅูู ุณุคุงู ุฅูู . | so, it is a question to . |
ูุฐููุ ูุฅู ุฃูู
ูุฉ ุงูููุงุฏุฉ ูุซููุฉ ุงูุตูุฉ ุฌุฏูุงุ ุฌุฏูุง. | so, the important of leadership is very, very pertinent. |
ุนูุฏู
ุง ุชูุธุฑ ุฅูู ุงูู
ุดููุงุช ุงูุชู ููุง ุนูุงูุฉ ุจู ุฃูุฑูููุง. | when you are looking at issues to do with Africa. |
ููู ุซุงููููุงุ ู
ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู ูุฏู ู
ุดููุฉ ู
ุน ูุฐุง . | but secondarily, again I have a problem with this . |
ุฑุจู
ุง ุงูุณูุฏ ุณุงู
ุจ ูุฏ ูุชุนูู ุนููู ุงููุธุฑ ุฅููู ู
ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู. | maybe Mr. Samb may have to look at it again. |
ูุฃูู ุนูุฏู
ุง ุชููู ู
ุฌุงุฒูุงุ ูุฐู ุงูููุงุฏุฉ ุงูู
ุชูุงุฒุน ุนูููุง. | because when you say a metaphor, this disputed leadership. |
ู
ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑูุ ุฅูู ูุง ูู
ููู ูุฃูู ุชุจูู ูู ุชูุณูุฑูุง ุฃูุถูุง. | again, it is not empowering because you are showing me also an explanation. |
ุฃู ููุงู ุดุฎุตูุง ูุญูุฏูุง ูู ู
ูุงู ู
ุง ู
ุน | that there is a lone figure somewhere with |
ุงูุฐู ุจุนุฏ ุฐูู ููุงุฒุน ุงูุณูุทุฉ ูุจููุชูุง. | who then disputes power to the rest of us. |
ููุฐุง ุจุงูุถุจุท ู
ุง ูุฑูุฏู ูููุฑุจ. | and this is exactly what we want to run away. |
ู
ู ูุฌูุฉ ูุธุฑูุ ุขู
ู ุฃูู ูุฏ ูุธุฑุช ุฅูู ูุงู ููุธุฑ ุฅูู ุงูููุงุฏุฉ ุงูู
ุดุชุฑูุฉ. | in my view, I wish you had looked at was looking at shared leadership. |
ุฑุจู
ุง ุญูุซ ุฃูุช . | probably where you . |
ููู ุนูุฏู
ุง ุชูุธุฑ ุฅูููุง ุนูู ุฃููุง ุธุงูุฑุฉ ู
ุชูุงุฒุน ุนูููุง ูุฅูู ุฅุฐูุง ุชุคูุฏ ูู. | but when you are looking at it as a disputed phenomenon then you assure me. |
ุฃู ุดุฎุตูุง ุขุฎุฑ ููุงุฒุน ุงูุณูุทุฉ ูุจููุฉ ุงูุขุฎุฑูู. | that someone else is disputing powers to the rest of others. |
ุฃูุง ุฃุดูุฑู. | I thank you. |
ุณุคุงู ุฌูุฏ ุฌุฏูุง. | very good question. |
ูููู ุณูู ุฃุฎุชูู ู
ุนู ูุง ุฃุฎู. | but I am going to have to disagree with you my brother. |
ุงูุญูููุฉ ุงูุจุณูุทุฉ ุฃูู ุนูุฏู
ุง ุชููู ุชู
ููู ุชููู. | the simple fact that when you say empowering it is . |
ุนูุงูุฉ ุฐุงุช ุงุชุฌุงู ูุงุญุฏ ูุฃููู ุฅุฐุง ููุช ุฃู
ูููู ููุฐู ุนูุงูุฉ ุฐุงุช ุงุชุฌุงู ูุงุญุฏ. | one-way relationship as if I am empowering you is one-way relationship. |
ุฅุฐุง ุชุฐูุฑุช ู
ุง ููุชู ุฅู ุงูุงุณุชู
ุงุน ู
ูู
ุญููุง. | if you remembers what I said is listening is really important. |
ู
ู ุญูุซ ู
ุง ูุนููู ุจุงูููุงุฏุฉ ุงูู
ุชูุงุฒุน ุนูููุง. | in terms of what we mean by disputed leadership. |
ุฅูู ููุณ ุฃูุง ุงูุฐู ูููู ูู ุงูุนู ูุฐุง ุฃู ุงูุนู ูุฐุง. | it is not me telling you do this or do this. |
ูุฐุง ูู ู
ุง ุฃุทูู ุนููู ุชูุณูู
ุงูุฏูุฑ ูุงูู
ุณุคูููุงุช. | that is what I call the division of role and responsibilities. |
ุงูุชู ููุจุบู ุฃู ุชููู ู
ูุฌูุฏุฉ ูู ูู ู
ูุงูุ ุจูู ุงูุฑุฌู ูุงูู
ุฑุฃุฉุ ูุงูู
ูุฒูุ ูุงูุนู
ู. | that should exist everywhere, between man and woman, home, work. |
ูุฐุง ุดูุก ูุชุนูู ุฃู ูููู ูุฏููุง ููููู ูู ุงูุญูุงุฉ. | that is something that we have to be in life. |
ููู ููู
ุง ูุฎุต ุงูููุงุฏุฉุ ููุจุบู ุนููู ุนุฏู
ุงูุฅู
ูุงุก ูุฃููู ุฃุฎุฏู
ู. | but in term of leadership, I should not dictate because I am serving you. |
ูุฅุฐุง ูุธุฑุช ุฅูู ุงูุฃุฑูุงู
ุ ูุฅู ุบุงูุจูุชูู
ุงูุฐูู ุฃุฎุฏู
ูู
. | and if you look at the numbers, the majority is you who I am serving. |
ูุฐูู ููุจุบู ุฃู ุฃููู ูุงุฏุฑูุง ุนูู ุงูุงุณุชู
ุงุน ุฅููู ูุชูุณูู
ุงูุฃุฏูุงุฑ ูุงูู
ุณุคูููุงุช ููุท. | so I should be able to listen to you and just divide the roles and responsibilities. |
ููู ูู ุดูุก ููู
ุง ูุฎุต ู
ุง ููุจุบู ุฃู ุฃูุนููุ ูุงูุฅุฌุฑุงุกุงุชุ ูุงูุฃููุงุฑ. | but everything in term of what should I do, the actions, the ideas. |
ุงูุงุญุชูุงุฌุงุช ุงูุชู ุฃุฑูุนูุง ูู ุฃูุช. | the needs I am raising is you. |
ูุฐูู ููุจุบู ุฃู ุฃููู ูุงุฏุฑูุง ุนูู ููู
ู
ุง ุชูุนูู ู
ู ุฎูุงู ุฌู
ุน ุชูู ุงูุฃููุงุฑ. | so I should be able to understand what you are doing by collecting those ideas. |
ูุฐูู ุฅุฐุง ูุธุฑุช ุฅูู ุจุฑูุงู
ุฌ ุงูุดุจุงุจ ูุฏููุง ุดุจูุฉ ุงูุงุจุชูุงุฑ ุงูุนุงูู
ูุฉ ููุดุจุงุจ. | so if you look at our youth program The Global Youth Innovation Network. |
ู
ุง ููุนูู ุฃููุงูุ ุงูุชุนุฑู ู
ู ุฎูุงู ูุฌูุฉ ุงูุจุญุซ ูุงูู
ุนุฑูุฉุ ูุฐุง ูู ู
ุง ููุนูู. | what we do is first, identification through research and knowledge gap, that is what we do. |
ููู
ู
ุง ููุนูู ุงููุงุณ. | understanding what people do. |
ูุฐูู ุฑุจู
ุง ูุญู ูุชุญุฏุซ ุนู ุงูุดูุก ููุณู. | so maybe we are talking about the same thing. |
ููู ุจุงููุณุจุฉ ููุ ุงูููุงุฏุฉ ููุณุช ุนูุงูุฉ ุฐุงุช ุงุชุฌุงู ูุงุญุฏ. | but for me, leadership is not a one-way relationship. |
ูุงุ ูุชุนูู ุฃู ุชููู ุนูุงูุฉ ุฐุงุช ุงุชุฌุงููู. | no, it has to be a two-way relationship. |
ุงูุชู ุชุฃุชู ู
ูู ูุฎุฏู
ุชู ุจุดูู ุฃูุถู. ูุฐุง ูู ุดูุก. ุฅูู ุงูุดูุก ููุณู ููุท. | which is getting from you to serve you better. that is all. It is just the same thing. |
ููุจุบู ุฃู ูููู ุงููุงุฆุฏ ู
ุนูู
ูุงุ ูููู
ู
ุง ุฃุนุทูู ุฅูุงู ุจูุงุกู ุนูู ู
ุง ุชุญุชุงุฌู. | a leader should be a teacher, understanding what I am giving you based on what you need. |
ูุฐุง ู
ุง ุฃุนููู. ุดูุฑูุง ูู. | that is what I mean. thank you. |
ูุฐููุ ูุชุนูู ุนูููุง ุฃู ููุชูู ุฅูู ุงูุฌุฒุก ุงูุชุงูู ู
ู ุงููุฌูุฉ. | so, we need to move on to the next section of the panel. |
ุฃุฑูุฏ ุฃู ุชููู ูุฏู ุงููุฑุตุฉ ูููู ุฃููุงุฑูู
ุงูุฑุงุฆุนุฉ ุฃูุถูุง. | I want to have the chance to impart their great ideas also. |
ุฃุฑูุฏ ุฃู ุฃุดูุฑูู
ุนูู ูุฐู ุงูุฃุณุฆูุฉ ุงูุฑุงุฆุนุฉุ ุนูู ุงูุชุจุงููู
ูู ุจูุจ ุณุงู
ุจ | I want to thank you for these great question, for your attention to Pape Samb |
ูุญูุงุฉ ุฃุธูุฑุช ููููุฉ ุฃุฎุฐ ุงูููู
ูุงูุฃููุงุฑ ุญููุง. | for really a life which has shown how to take values and ideas. |
ูุชุญููููุง ุฅูู ุฃุดูุงุก ุญููููุฉ ุชุบูุฑ ู
ุณุชูุจู ุฃูุฑูููุง. | and turn them into real things that change the future of Africa. |
ููุจุบู ุชููุฆุชูู
ููุญู ูุฎูุฑูู ุจูู
. | you should be congratulated and we are proud of you. |
ุงุณุชู
ุฑูุง. | continue. |
ุดูุฑูุง ุฌุฒููุงู ููู
. | thank you so much. |
ุญุณููุง ู
ุฌุฑุฏ ุจุถุนุฉ ุฃุดูุงุก ููุชุฏุจูุฑ ุงูู
ูุฒูู. | so just a couple of housekeeping things. |
ุฅุฐุง ูุงู ููุงุชููู
ุงูู
ุญู
ููุฉ ููุฏ ุงูุชุดุบููุ ูุฅููุง ููุฏ ุฃู ุชููู ููุฏ ุงูุชุดุบููุ ููู ุชุญููููุง ุฅูู ุตุงู
ุช. | if your cell-phones are on, we would like them on, but turn them to silent. |
ูุฏููู
ุฌู
ูุนูุง ุณู
ุงุนุงุช ุฑุฃุณ ุฅุฐุง ููุชู
ุจุญุงุฌุฉ ุฅูููุง ููุชุฑุฌู
ุฉ. | you have all got headphones if you need them for translation. |
ุบุฑุฏูุงุ ูุงูุช ุนูุงู
ุงุช ุงููุงุดุชุงุฌ ุนูู ุงูุดุงุดุฉ ุฃูุง ู
ุชุฃูุฏ. | do tweet, the hashtags have been up on the screen I am sure. |
ูุฐูู ูุฅููุง ูุญุจ ุชููู ุฃุณุฆูุชูู
. | so we would love to get your questions. |
ูุฃู ููุฐู ุงููุฌูุฉ ุญูุงูู ูุตู ุณุงุนุฉ. | because this panel has got about half an hour. |
ูุจุฏุก ุงูุญุฏูุซ ุนู ุจุนุถ ุงูุฃุดูุงุก ุงูุชู ูุคู
ููู ุจูุง. | to begin talking about some things they believe in. |
ูุจุนุฏ ุฐูู ูุตู ุณุงุนุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู ุฎุตุตูุงูุง. | and then another half hour we have devoted. |
ููุณู
ุงุญ ููู
ุจุทุฑุญ ุงูุฃุณุฆูุฉ ุนูููุง ููุฌูุจ ุนูููุง. | o allowing you to ask us questions and have us respond back. |
ูุฐูู ุณูู ุชููู ูุฏููู
ุฌูุณุฉ ุชูุงุนููุฉ ุฑุงุฆุนุฉ. | so you are going to have a great interactive session. |
ุชุฑูู ุฃู ุงูููุงุฏุฉ ูู ุฏุนููุง ูุทูู ุนููู ุงูุงุชุจุงุน. | you can see that leadership in let's call followership. |
ุงูู 2 ู
ุฌุชู
ุนูู ูู
ุง ููุน ู
ู ุฌููุฑ ู
ุง ุณูู ูุบูุฑ ูุฐุง ุงูุนุงูู
. | the 2 combined are sort of the essence of what is going to change this world. |
ูููู ุฃูุฏ ุฃู ุฃุณุฃููู
ุณุคุงูุงู. | but I would like to ask you a question. |
ุงูุชูููุฑ ุจุดุฃู ุงููุงุฏุฉ ูู ุฒู
ู ู
ุนุงุตุฑ. | thinking about leaders in a contemporary age. |
ูุงุฏุชูุง ุงูุขูุ ุฃุฑูุฏ ุฃู ุฃุญุตู ุนูู ุชุตููุช ู
ููู
ุฌู
ูุนูุง. | our leaders now, I want to get a vote from all of you. |
ูู ุฃูุชู
ุณุนุฏุงุก ุจููุน ุงูููุงุฏุฉ ุงูุชู ูู
ุชูููุง ูุฐุง ุงูุนุงูู
ุ | are you happy with the kind of leadership this world has? |