2020/05/12/#ubuntu-desktop.txt

[00:37] <callmepk> Good morning
[06:21] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:33] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN 
[06:33] <oSoMoN> hey duflu 
[06:33] <duflu> First one today
[06:40] <didrocks> good morning
[06:43] <callmepk> hi oSoMoN duflu didrocks 
[06:43] <duflu> Hi didrocks and callmepk 
[06:43] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks 
[06:43] <oSoMoN> hey callmepk 
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[06:47] <didrocks> hey callmepk, duflu, salut oSoMoN 
[06:48] <duflu> And hi jamesh 
[06:48] <jamesh> hi duflu 
[06:48] <oSoMoN> hey jamesh 
[06:49] <didrocks> good afternoon jamesh 
[06:51] <callmepk> hi jamesh 
[07:09] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:11] <oSoMoN> salut seb128 
[07:16] <didrocks> salut seb128, ça va ?
[07:18] <duflu> Morning seb128, how goes?
[07:20] <seb128> hey oSoMoN, didrocks, duflu, how are you today?
[07:21] <oSoMoN> I'm good, how are you yourself?
[07:23] <duflu> seb128, got up early and did pilates, so that's unusually good.
[07:23] <seb128> oSoMoN, I'm fine, not fully awake yet but coffee will solve that issue :)
[07:24] <seb128> duflu, ah sounds like a nice way to start the day
[07:25] <didrocks> seb128: ça va bien, merci ;) but coffee needed here as well :)
[08:02] <Laney> hey ho
[08:02] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk oSoMoN duflu didrocks jamesh seb128 and Laney
[08:03] <Laney> the Deskstreet Boys
[08:03] <marcustomlinson> Deskstreet's back alright!
[08:03] <Laney> Desk II Top
[08:03] <Laney> Desklife
[08:04] <didrocks> hey hey marcustomlinson & Laney 
[08:04] <Laney> good morning!
[08:04] <Laney> I've had a lot of tea already
[08:04]  * Laney is sloshing around
[08:05] <duflu> Morning Laney
[08:05] <duflu> ☕☕☕
[08:06] <Laney> hey duflu 
[08:06] <seb128> hey Laney, marcustomlinson, how are you?
[08:07] <seb128> Laney, britney didn't make you crazy yet? ;)
[08:09] <didrocks> was there a lot to save anyway… :p
[08:09] <Laney> moin seb128 
[08:09] <Laney> doing alright, sun is back today but it's cold
[08:09] <Laney> you?
[08:09]  * Laney stares at didrocks 
[08:09] <didrocks> lalala
[08:09] <didrocks> :)
[08:10] <Laney> yesterday I mostly did the easy bits
[08:10] <Laney> rescuing commits that could maybe go upstream and putting those on a branch
[08:10] <Laney> well, easy, but every one of them conflicted so
[08:10] <seb128> :-/
[08:11] <Laney> the next stage is to actually resolve the differences and keep what we need 
[08:11] <seb128> it has been raining here this night but sun is starting to show back now
[08:11] <Laney> all good fun!
[08:11] <Laney> did take the chance to learn vscode a bit better
[08:11] <Laney> helped me do that cherry picking quite nicely
[08:11] <marcustomlinson> seb128: doing good thanks
[08:11] <Laney> using 'gitlens'
[08:12] <marcustomlinson> Laney: vs code is really awesome when you get to understand it
[08:12] <Laney> ye
[08:12] <Laney> I still use the embedded terminal for too much stuff probably
[08:12] <Laney> but that's learning I guess
[08:12] <marcustomlinson> learn the layouts of tasks.json and launch.json and your world becomes a better place
[08:12] <didrocks> I didn’t get to force me using gitlens
[08:12] <didrocks> just tried few times
[08:13] <Laney> with that I could scroll all the way down 3 years to where we diverged
[08:13] <Laney> look at the deltas of all of those commits and cherry pick them to a new branch
[08:13] <oSoMoN> good morning Laney, marcustomlinson 
[08:13] <Laney> then use the normal vcs stuff to resolve / commi tit
[08:13] <Laney> hey oSoMoN!
[08:16] <seb128> tseliot, hey, unsure if you keep up with launchpad bugs activity so I'm mentioning bug #1877727 which seems another issue reported on focal where low power is not handled correctly
[08:16] <ubot5> bug 1877727 in nvidia-prime (Ubuntu) "Nvidia dGPU active despite prime-select set to Intel card" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1877727
[08:17] <seb128> tseliot, let me know if you deal with launchpad and those pings are annoying rather than useful and I will stop :)
[08:24] <seb128> oSoMoN, marcustomlinson, ricotz, I'm going to let that libreoffice help/config/main.xcd issue to you, I spent enough time on that and I'm not really set up to build libreoffice and I think I did what I could from poking to diff/build logs and trying some ppa builds
[08:24] <seb128> (just as a FYI)
[08:24] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth ^
[08:25] <seb128> oh, she's keeping IRC connected during the night
[08:25] <seb128> sorry Heather, I though you wouldn't be on at this time which is why I didn't list you
[08:25] <seb128> bug #1877970 also looks like it could be due to the same problem
[08:26] <ubot5> bug 1877970 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Alt-X keyboard shortcut not defined in LibreOffice 6.4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1877970
[11:09] <ricotz> this libreoffice help bug is really fun :\
[11:53] <ricotz> hellsworth, oSoMoN, marcustomlinson, seb128, https://git.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/commit/?h=wip/ricotz-groovy-6.4
[11:53] <ricotz> PPA build for testingfollows
[11:55] <ricotz> https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/11285414/+listing-archive-extra
[12:28] <oSoMoN> ricotz, nice one, let's hope this fixes the bug indeed
[13:01] <seb128> ricotz, interesting, I hope it works! I though a bit it could be something like that but I didn't see something in our diff with Debian that would explain why our builds would end up differently?
[13:05] <ricotz> seb128, debian isn't using the "amd64" build of libreoffice-common for "all" like ubuntu does, but is doing an extra "all" build where nogui path is not triggered
[13:06] <ricotz> the culprit is an unset USING_X11 var
[13:06] <seb128> ah, I overlooked that the all build in Debian wasn't triggering the nogui path
[13:06] <seb128> ricotz, thanks for the explanation :)
[13:06] <ricotz> so hopefully this tweak causes the correct behaviour of the buildsys
[13:07] <seb128> right, fingers crossed!
[13:14] <kenvandine> hey seb128 
[13:14] <kenvandine> seb128: any thoughts on bug 1871779
[13:14] <ubot5> bug 1871779 in snap-store "Fonts are poorly rendered in Wayland session" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871779
[13:15] <kenvandine> basically snaps are showing the default theme for bionic when run under wayland
[13:15] <kenvandine> and as soon as you open the appearance panel in g-c-c it all updates
[13:15] <kenvandine> so it's relying on the gsetting to get the theme rather than X
[13:19] <seb128> kenvandine, sorry but not offhand, might be a good one for James?
[13:19] <kenvandine> yeah, probably
[13:30] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[13:30] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth 
[13:30] <hellsworth> hi there oSoMoN 
[13:30] <seb128> hey Heather
[13:30] <seb128> ok, meeting time
[13:30] <didrocks> hey hellsworth 
[13:31] <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-05-12
[13:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue May 12 13:31:28 2020 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:31] <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), heather, jamesh (out), jibel (out), kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[13:31] <marcustomlinson> \o
[13:31] <Trevinho> o/
[13:31] <kenvandine> o/
[13:32] <hellsworth> o/
[13:32] <Laney> _o_
[13:32] <callmepk> o?
[13:32] <oSoMoN> o/
[13:32] <seb128> k, let's get started
[13:32] <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bug
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[13:32] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:32] <seb128> no desktop section
[13:33] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:33] <seb128> bug #1776447 was added there
[13:33] <ubot5> bug 1776447 in xorg-server (Ubuntu Bionic) "Xorg's Indirect GLX broken from upstream regression" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1776447
[13:34] <seb128> mhodson nominated it
[13:35] <seb128> I suggest deleting the nomination and subscribing sponsors since there are patches attached
[13:35] <seb128> well sponsors are subscribed
[13:35] <seb128> tjaalton, ^ you might want to look at this one?
[13:35] <Laney> yes, we tagged that notfixing already, delete it
[13:36] <Laney> notfixing should remove things from the tracking list imo
[13:36] <seb128> well we tagged ff-notfixing
[13:36] <seb128> and that's bionic
[13:36] <seb128> target deleted
[13:36] <seb128> bug #1878155
[13:37] <ubot5> bug 1878155 in thunderbird (Ubuntu Bionic) "Thunderbird fails to connect to server in FIPS mode" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1878155
[13:37] <seb128> dgadomski seems to be on it and assigned himself now
[13:37] <oSoMoN> that's the thunderbird counterpart of a firefox bug that's already fixed upstream
[13:37] <seb128> oSoMoN, ^ you might want to coordinate for upload or help him with sponsoring
[13:37] <oSoMoN> yeah, will do
[13:37] <seb128> thx
[13:38] <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug
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[13:38] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:38] <seb128> shrug, I again failed to clean up the list as I said I would do :(
[13:38] <seb128> sorry team
[13:38] <seb128> let's try to navigate it anyway
[13:38] <seb128> bug #1877075	
[13:38] <ubot5> bug 1877075 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed at xcb_io.c:260: poll_for_event: Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost'' failed" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1877075
[13:40] <seb128> I would vote -1 for rls nomination
[13:40] <seb128> hum, though Daniel says it's the most reported segfault on gnome-shell
[13:41] <seb128> which is weird the linked error has only 1892 reports total, that seems low
[13:41] <seb128> opinions?
[13:41] <Laney> it might be in a few buckets, there's multiple linked there
[13:41] <Laney> probably worth taking
[13:42] <tjaalton> seb128: right, bionic will get it via the hwe update
[13:42] <Laney> looks true to say it's #1 from https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2020.04&package=gnome-shell&period=month
[13:42] <hellsworth> there's a workaround but someone using nvidia can't easily use wayland so it wouldn't work for them
[13:42] <seb128> also most users wouldn't know to do that workaround
[13:44] <seb128> k, so yeah, on the month view the first entry for that issue has 6841 reports
[13:44] <seb128> still low compared to the 50k gnome-software one toping the report but high enough
[13:44] <seb128> I'm +1 though I've the feeling it's going to be one of those bugs that suck to debug, especially without reproducer
[13:45] <seb128> other opinions?
[13:45] <hellsworth> i agree it coudl suck but might be worth it
[13:45] <hellsworth> +1
[13:46] <kenvandine> i think we need to take it
[13:46] <didrocks> agreed
[13:46] <seb128> k, let's do that, I will assign to Daniel since Marco is always overcommited
[13:47] <Laney> good plan
[13:47] <seb128> bug #1865300
[13:47] <ubot5> bug 1865300 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell-hotplug-sniffer crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash() from g_hash_table_lookup() from deep_count_more_files_callback()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865300
[13:48] <seb128> Trevinho commented he though it's glib
[13:48] <seb128> also unsure if has an user visible impact outside of apport, still even prompting to report crashes is annoying
[13:48] <seb128> I would tend to accept the nomination
[13:48] <seb128> opinions?
[13:49] <didrocks> same due to apport prompting
[13:49] <Trevinho> +1 for me as indeed is a regression
[13:49] <Trevinho> but, need to figure out where, as no code change happened there
[13:49] <Trevinho> and the tool looks sane, at least... from a quick view
[13:49] <seb128> Trevinho, can you take on that one?
[13:50] <seb128> doing that
[13:50] <seb128> next
[13:50] <seb128> bug #1876879
[13:50] <ubot5> bug 1876879 in snap-store "gnome-software cannot install classic snaps if a channel is selected" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1876879
[13:51] <kenvandine> i spent time looking at that last night
[13:51] <seb128> I tagged it, I think it sucks as an user experience for snaps
[13:51] <kenvandine> it does
[13:51] <Laney> rls bug for ken, +1!
[13:51] <seb128> :-)
[13:51] <kenvandine> i think i need robert to look at it
[13:51] <kenvandine> but he's overloaded for the next couple weeks
[13:51] <kenvandine> but i think we should take it
[13:52] <kenvandine> get it in his queue
[13:52] <seb128> kenvandine, k, doing that
[13:52] <seb128> thanks
[13:53] <seb128> the other ones are either the same bugs but listing another components or incomplete or assigned
[13:53] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:54] <seb128> bug #1865379
[13:54] <ubot5> bug 1865379 in linux (Ubuntu) "Raspberry Pi 4 fails to wake at login prompt" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865379
[13:54] <seb128> him it's imcomplete
[13:55] <seb128> wait
[13:55] <seb128> how did I end up with that one in my copy buffer
[13:55] <seb128> bug #1865379
[13:55] <ubot5> bug 1865379 in linux (Ubuntu) "Raspberry Pi 4 fails to wake at login prompt" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865379
[13:56] <seb128> I don't see evidence it's rls material at this point
[13:57] <seb128> I suggest deleting the targets and asking to go through nomination with rational if wanted
[13:57] <kenvandine> agreed
[13:58] <seb128> done
[13:59] <seb128> the other ones are things fixed in pending SRUs or not properly assigned, I will clean things up
[13:59] <seb128> #topic rls-gg-bug
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[13:59] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:00] <seb128> nothing to review there for today
[14:00] <seb128> those are cleanups overdue like on the focal report
[14:00] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:00] <seb128> I will untag the wslu one which is assigned ti Patrick
[14:00] <seb128> and the thunderbird one we discussed
[14:01] <seb128> so that's it
[14:01] <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
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[14:01] <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[14:01] <seb128> pulseaudio fail test on riscv64 which is annoying
[14:02] <seb128> I will look at this one
[14:02] <seb128> oSoMoN, you are on the case for the firefox missing builds?
[14:03] <seb128> gnome-photos / armhf needs to investigated, I will card it, feel free to grab it
[14:04] <seb128> I've retried gtk/ppc but that might need investigating, I will card it if there is another failure
[14:04] <oSoMoN> seb128, yes, I'm on the case
[14:04] <seb128> oSoMoN, thanks
[14:04] <seb128> oh, but gtk is unhappy on other architectures as well now
[14:04] <seb128> so I guess that's a new issue and need investigation, I will card it
[14:04] <seb128> feel free to grab it
[14:04] <didrocks> seems ignition-transport will soon migrate now that it has been retried, which will free protobuf which will free up libphonenumber it seems
[14:05] <oSoMoN> (struggling to get a s390x machine set up in the clouds)
[14:05] <seb128> didrocks, ah, nice
[14:06] <seb128> oSoMoN, i see that smcv fixed the librsvg build in Debian and groovy built fine now :)
[14:06] <seb128> k, should be it for this week there
[14:06] <seb128> #topic AOB
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[14:06] <seb128> any other topic?
[14:06] <didrocks> nothing for me
[14:07] <seb128> seems not then
[14:07] <seb128> thanks everyone, let's wrap there
[14:07] <seb128> #endmeeting
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[14:07] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue May 12 14:07:52 2020 UTC.  
[14:07] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-05-12-13.31.moin.txt
[14:07] <Laney>  cheers
[14:07] <marcustomlinson> thx
[14:09] <didrocks> thx
[14:09] <oSoMoN> thx
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