2014/12/04/#kubuntu.txt

[00:02] <djzn> is it alright to replace Moun by Apper?
[00:04] <valorie> djzn: of course, you can use any software in the archive
[00:05] <valorie> Muon is designed and created by one of our own devels, so most of us prefer it, but some still like synaptic, etc
[00:05] <valorie> I myself like the package manager and not discover
[00:05] <valorie> but I usually bypass and just use apt
[00:06] <djzn> coz, let me explain...
[00:06] <djzn> installed a fresh system , then ran Moun and searched for "ntfs-3g" and it didn't return anything...
[00:06] <djzn> and it was installed on the system after checking from command line
[00:06] <djzn> I wanted to know if that behaviour is expected
[00:07] <valorie> discover, or the package manager?
[00:07] <valorie> discover is for applications, and doesn't report on libs and such
[00:07] <valorie> which is why I don't like it
[00:07] <djzn> yes it is discover
[00:08] <valorie> just like Ubuntu Software Center, which I also dislike
[00:08] <valorie> but I guess we are in the minority
[00:08] <djzn> for example, does this Package Manager gets installed by default?
[00:08] <valorie> not sure
[00:09] <djzn> i have been thinking in getting involved with Kubuntu
[00:09] <valorie> when you do alt+f2 and type Muon, does it show up?
[00:09] <djzn> I have seen that are tons of untranslated strings in my language in the installer....
[00:09] <valorie> oh my
[00:09] <valorie> we need your help then
[00:09] <valorie> because that is our software
[00:10] <djzn> it returns the discover, and it returns a 'update manager'
[00:10] <valorie> ok, then obviously not installed by default
[00:10] <valorie> !info muon package manager
[00:10] <ubottu> 'package' is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed
[00:10] <valorie> pfff
[00:10] <valorie> !info muon
[00:10] <ubottu> muon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.0-0ubuntu7 (utopic), package size 208 kB, installed size 1459 kB
[00:11] <valorie> I think the other is called muon-discover
[00:11] <valorie> !info muon-discover
[00:11] <ubottu> muon-discover (source: muon): Utility for browsing, installing, and removing applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.0-0ubuntu7 (utopic), package size 113 kB, installed size 896 kB
[00:11] <valorie> yup
[00:11] <djzn> 'muon' not installed by default
[00:12] <djzn> :-|
[00:12] <djzn> i finally settled with KDE.
[00:13] <djzn> I have been a long time Ubuntu orphan... was distro-hopping for a while, and was experimenting with ArchLinux.... but the timing required to do sysadmin just distracts me from the important things like actually developing Java skills and such...
[00:14] <djzn> one thing i still am yet to understand is that... Canonical 'dropped' financial support towards Kubuntu, right... and I read in the past that BlueSystems picked that up....
[00:18] <valorie> yes, that's the current state
[00:18] <valorie> canonical still supports us in lots of ways, but no longer pays for a devel
[00:19] <valorie> it's all to the good; Blue systems pays *lots* of devels for Kubuntu & KDE
[00:19] <djzn> so that's why the 'kubuntu' name got retained
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[00:19] <djzn> valorie, oh I'm glad then... really cool
[00:23] <djzn> brb
[01:14] <surfz^> Firefox 34 on Kubuntu, I can't seem to find the Hello button to test the new Video Conference feature.
[01:14] <surfz^> Has anyone else had this problem?
[01:31] <Blue1> i am having difficulty getting kubuntu to display all the contents of the Desktop folder.  It display all the .desktop icons fine - but files and folders...nope....
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[03:09] <bowser`> Can I find sed.texi on my kubuntu?
[03:10] <Unit193> !find sed.texi
[03:10] <ubottu> Package/file sed.texi does not exist in utopic
[03:11] <bowser`> can i generate it? I found a recent version on gnu website, but not sure if this is way to proceed in general.
[03:15] <bowser`> where does kubuntu come from, since it's not Debian?
[03:20] <D3V> kubuntu is based of debian
[03:20] <bowser`> yeah, i'm mixing up ideas, sorry, thank you though
[03:20] <D3V> no problem
[03:21] <bowser`> grabbing sed.texi from gnu website is not that weird i'm guessing? kubuntu is probably packaging with this removed?
[05:29] <Brian_W> hi
[05:29] <Brian_W> I am having issues with Kubuntu after a recent update that was pushed. Namely that I cannot get my touchpad to work after I log in
[05:29] <Brian_W> I was hoping someone might be able to point to a resource for me to work through it
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[06:16] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:47] <noaXess> Moorning
[06:47] <noaXess> does anybody use Shutter and Gimp?
[06:48] <ussher_> not sure what shutter is, but do use gimp.
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[07:19] <soee> good morning
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[10:17] <alvin> ok, I'll stay on plasma5 for the time being. But it is time to report some bugs. Does anyone know how the package is named where you can view Fonts in systemsettings?
[10:20] <alvin> There we go again. /usr/bin/kcmshell5 is not an official Ubuntu package :-(
[10:21] <lordievader> alvin: PPA?
[10:21] <alvin> I suppose it is the extra-ppas
[10:22] <alvin> So, bugs against plasma5 go to the ppa?
[10:22] <alvin> Is there a method to use ubuntu-bug for that?I like that method.
[10:22] <lordievader> !plasma5
[10:22] <ubottu> Kubuntu Plasma 5 is a tech preview. To test it out, see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/current/ . If you find a bug, you can also check it with kubuntu-ci images for latest builds.
[10:22] <valorie> I'm thinking bko might be a better place
[10:22] <valorie> or.... ask in #plasma ?
[10:23] <lordievader> Hmm, that factoid does not specify where...
[10:23] <valorie> bko=bugs.kde.org
[10:24] <valorie> basically, packaging bugs go to launchpad, KDE bugs go to kde
[10:24] <alvin> Directly upstream? ok. No ubuntu-bug then. I guess it'll have to be done the old-fashioned way.
[10:24] <valorie> plasma5 isn't really packaged as such; you are using right from git pretty much
[10:24] <alvin> It's probably not a packaging bug. If you open kcmshell5 fontinst you'll see immediately what the problem is.
[10:25] <valorie> yes, I've been advocating for a `kde-bug` tool
[10:25] <valorie> but someone has to write the thing
[10:25] <alvin> There is the crash reporter, but you need the debug packages, and lots of bugs are not crash-related.
[10:25] <valorie> exactly
[10:26] <valorie> in fact, most are not
[10:26] <valorie> I see no problem with the fontinst
[10:26] <valorie> can you say what you are experiencing?
[10:26] <alvin> Ow? I can't see any previews. It's points, stripes, but no characters.
[10:27] <valorie> everything looks normal to me
[10:27] <valorie> I had no clue I had that many fonts
[10:28] <alvin> It looks like this to me https://owncloud.alvin.be/public.php?service=files&t=bda6a10829281ec34f13c188c8706c76
[10:28] <valorie> yikes
[10:28] <alvin> Video driver? I'm using nouveau.
[10:28] <valorie> I never changed anything
[10:28] <valorie> can't recall; how do I check what I'm using?
[10:29] <alvin> Me neither. This is: insert stick, install. apt dist-upgrade. And this is the result.
[10:29] <valorie> ah, you are now in the land of full-upgrade
[10:29] <valorie> always do sudo apt full-upgrade
[10:29] <alvin> sudo lshw -short -c video will list the driver in use
[10:29] <valorie> might make a diff
[10:30] <valorie> H/W path       Device      Class          Description
[10:30] <valorie> =====================================================
[10:30] <valorie> /0/100/2                   display        3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller
[10:30] <valorie> didn't seem to though
[10:30] <alvin> Ouch, leave out the -short
[10:31] <alvin> my mistake. Also, full-upgrade is apparently the official method. dist-upgrade isn't even in the man page, but it worked. Probably an alias now.
[10:32] <valorie> https://paste.kde.org/pxkrqusyy
[10:32] <valorie> I don't see a driver name still
[10:33] <alvin> I see driver=i915 :-)
[10:33] <valorie> ok, not sure what that is
[10:33] <valorie> must be a blob of some sort?
[10:33] <alvin> Intel graphics. It's also an open source driver if I'm not mistaken.
[10:34] <valorie> ok
[10:34] <valorie> you can tell how much I mess with that stuff
[10:34] <valorie> lol
[10:34] <alvin> I can find this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336089 Looks bad, but not as bad as here.
[10:34] <ubottu> KDE bug 336089 in kcm_fontinst "Font preview - rendering problem" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[10:35] <alvin> Also, the reporter doesn't mention a driver. That's the fine thing about ubuntu-bug. When reporting, it will list the drivers in use. (even if it doesn't matter)
[10:35] <valorie> notice that was neon5 also
[10:35] <valorie> please add your input and your screenie to that bug report then
[10:36] <alvin> ok, I'll do that. Makes no sense reporting a new bug.
[10:36] <valorie> because your rendering problem is faaar worse
[10:36]  * valorie heads off to bed
[10:38] <alvin> Done
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[13:39] <abc123def456> Hello! Has anyone had any luck turning the compositor off in plasma5 in order to keep the desktop from freezing?
[13:51] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[13:57] <soee> abc123def456: it never freezed for me :-)
[13:57] <soee> but yesterday there was discussion about it ithink, Sick_Rimmit ^
[14:07] <abc123def456> soee: just out of curiousity, do you have a non-intel graphics chipset?
[14:08] <soee> abc123def456: on my laptop i have hybrid, intel + nvidia
[14:08] <soee> im working on nvidia profile
[14:08] <abc123def456> soee: I have intel. I bet it's a compositor issue.
[14:11] <abc123def456> the plasma5 interface is great though. I'm looking forward to 15.04 and giving tired old kde4 a rest :)
[14:11] <soee> :) im on plasma5 like few months already
[14:11] <soee> almost forget kde4
[14:12] <abc123def456> I added the ppa to ubuntu 14.10 a few days a go and converted. Then last night I downloaded a 15.04 nightly. Not bad.
[14:12] <soee> :)
[14:12] <abc123def456> 15.04 kubuntu that is
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[15:30] <dario_> fifa
[16:37] <alket> hi, how to replace Ark with Xarchiver in Dolphin right click ?
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[17:26] <damaj> hi
[18:00] <Walex> alket: same as everything else: file associations
[18:26] <skinux> Is it possible to get an icon for Dolphin on the "task bar" (left side) which will open Dolphin and prompt for super privileges?
[18:42] <Roguehorse> Settings -- Configure Dolphin -- Services -- Add New Services -- Search "Open Dolphin as Root" should point you in the right direction anyway
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[21:33] <ojorgensen> hi, doing google code in at the the moment, would any body be able to help me with a build error?
[21:46] <ojorgensen> hello :)
[21:50] <majnoon> this MAY be dumb queston: how find out if i installed 32 or 64 bit install ?
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[21:53] <soee> majnoon: System Settings -> About
[21:53] <Avihay> majnoon: from terminal uname -a
[21:54] <Avihay> from terminal: "uname -a" without the "
[21:55] <majnoon> kk THINK got 32 bit but shouldn't be too big deal
[21:55] <Avihay> i686 / i386?
[21:56] <majnoon> 686
[21:56] <majnoon> tried 64 bit said wrong arch :/
[21:56] <Avihay> then, yes, 32 bit
[22:00] <majnoon> kk what is meta package for reg ubuntu desktop ?
[22:29] <EvilRoey> HELLO ALL!!!!
[22:30] <EvilRoey> Avihay:  yo :)
[22:30] <EvilRoey> majnoon:  nice nick, haha
[22:30] <majnoon> yup
[22:30] <EvilRoey> Hey all, I have BTRFS subvols mounted for /home, / and others.  How do I reinstall Kubuntu and leave /home as it is, while obliterating / ?
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[23:06] <reborn7_> hey ?
[23:07] <soee> hiho
[23:08] <reborn7_> any good program for stream like screen for drawing ?
[23:10] <soee> oh im not sure, you justwant to stream of give access ?
[23:22] <reborn7_> no like this https://obsproject.com/ but it has not released for linux.