2014/11/14/#ubuntu-desktop.txt

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[04:27] <pitti> Good morning
[05:59] <larsu> pitti: wow, you were up very early today. Good morning!
[05:59] <pitti> hey larsu
[05:59] <pitti> yeah, couldn't sleep any more :)
[06:33] <jdrice> mhall119 I have an idea for a new hardware bios, not sure how or where to ask for help
[07:54] <didrocks> good morning
[07:55]  * larsu waves to didrocks
[07:55] <didrocks> happy Friday larsu!
[07:55] <larsu> thanks!
[08:06] <pitti> hey didrocks, bonjour -- c'est tard pour toi !
[08:08] <didrocks> pitti: oui, j'ai regardé une émission scientifique sur rosetta ce matin :)
[08:08] <pitti> didrocks: héhé, comme moi hier matin :)
[08:10] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:10] <seb128> hey didrocks pitti
[08:10] <pitti> bonjour seb128 !
[08:10] <seb128> wie gehts?
[08:10] <seb128> happy friday!
[08:11] <didrocks> salut seb128
[08:11] <didrocks> bon vendredi :)
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[08:32] <seb128> larsu, is your gtk/o-s scrollbar the bug Laney assigned you which has a mp up for review?
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[08:58] <larsu> seb128: hm, which one is that?
[08:59] <larsu> btw, this is not merhed yet? https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/overlay-scrollbar/only-enable-for-supported-themes/+merge/228666
[09:01] <willcooke> morning all
[09:01] <seb128> larsu, bug #1386255
[09:01] <ubot5> bug 1386255 in overlay-scrollbar (Ubuntu) "devhelp and many other apps crash with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke() due to overlay-scrollbars" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1386255
[09:01] <seb128> willcooke, hey
[09:02] <larsu> willcooke: morning!
[09:03] <Laney> hey hey hey HEY
[09:03] <larsu> hi Laney
[09:04] <larsu> I mean, hi hi hi HI
[09:05] <Laney> what's up
[09:05] <larsu> tiredness
[09:05] <seb128> hey Laney, happy friday! how are you?
[09:06] <Laney> pretty alright, but my emails haven't come through yet ;-)
[09:07] <Laney> only 47!
[09:09] <Laney> pitti: thanks for the LO retry
[09:13] <larsu> seb128: nice, that's it. No need for me to file a bug then :)
[09:13] <seb128> larsu, shame that you didn't notice earlier, it has been opened/assigned for some days
[09:13] <seb128> but good that it's an easy fix ;-)
[09:14] <seb128> larsu, the theme enabled o-s changes didn't land no, I was unsure in what orders things were supposed to land and then got busy on other things and forgot about it
[09:14] <seb128> we should land those this cycle though
[09:14] <larsu> right, no worries
[09:14] <seb128> theme needs to go first I guess
[09:14] <larsu> let's land it now, though
[09:15] <larsu> seb128: yes, otherwise light-themes won't have o-s enabled until o-s gets updated
[09:15] <seb128> k, makes sense
[09:44] <Sweet5hark> Moin!
[09:44] <Laney> [moin]
[09:44] <seb128> hey Sweet5hark
[09:45]  * Sweet5hark wonders if we should play the IRC variant of a new hip game here. Rules go like this: send /me too or be kicked from the channel in 24 hours.
[09:45] <Sweet5hark> probably not. Its not Friday yet.
[09:46]  * seb128 tries to figure out where Sweet5hark is living
[09:46] <larsu> seb128: the past
[09:46] <seb128> it's like 2 hours before California, is that middle of the pacific ocean?
[09:47] <seb128> larsu, or that ;-)
[09:47] <Sweet5hark> seb128: hrhr
[09:47] <Sweet5hark> seb128: actually I am quite close to you and didrocks right now. Sitting in a hotel lobby in Toulouse.
[09:48] <seb128> south of France?
[09:48] <seb128> close from didrocks then ;-)
[09:48] <seb128> you are probably closer from me when you are at home
[09:48] <seb128> Sweet5hark, what are you doing in Toulouse?
[09:49] <larsu> seb128: probably?!
[09:50] <larsu> ah wait, you're not in France right now, are you? :P
[09:50]  * seb128 was waiting for this one :p
[09:50] <didrocks> pffffffff
[09:50] <larsu> seb128: HAHA
[09:50] <larsu> seb128: still closer, you're right
[09:50] <seb128> larsu, either way, doesn't make a difference
[09:50] <didrocks> 5 hours by train, how that can be close? :)
[09:50] <Sweet5hark> seb128: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Toulouse2014
[09:50] <seb128> but I don't remember where Sweet5hark lives in germany
[09:50] <Laney> deepest bavaria
[09:50] <larsu> seb128: in the north (Hamburg)
[09:51] <Sweet5hark> Laney: NO!1!!one!!eleven
[09:51] <seb128> larsu, Metz<->Berlin ~ Metz <-> Toulouse
[09:51] <seb128> but Bavaria is closer
[09:51] <Sweet5hark> Laney: bavaria isnt even germany
[09:51] <larsu> right
[09:51] <Laney> :D
[09:51] <larsu> Sweet5hark: ts ts
[09:51] <seb128> oh
[09:51] <larsu> bavaria is as german as you can get if you listen to people not living in Germany
[09:52] <seb128> google maps iteneraries include flights now!
[09:52] <larsu> probably more people know about oktoberfest than the existence of Hamburg :P
[09:52] <Laney> haha
[09:52] <seb128> Berlin-Metz = 800km
[09:52] <Laney> I think it is a valued piece of German culture for lots of Brits, indeed
[09:52] <seb128> Toulouse-Metz=930km
[09:52] <seb128> so yeah, Toulouse is further either way
[09:53] <Sweet5hark> larsu: well, probably more people now about "Hamburger" as food. Just not the origin of that word (Fischbroetchen of german immigrants in the US)
[09:53] <seb128> I've been told about some "fest of the strong beer" happening also in like february
[09:53] <seb128> is that a famous one as well?
[09:53] <larsu> Sweet5hark: certainly :)
[09:54] <larsu> seb128: it's year round. We call it "a weekday"
[09:54] <Laney> ummmmmmmm february german sprint?
[09:54] <seb128> lol
[09:54] <larsu> Laney: I'd prefer Berlin to Germany
[09:54] <Laney> ha
[09:54] <Laney> you make a similar distinction as I do with London :p
[09:55] <seb128> you Berlin snob!
[09:55] <Sweet5hark> seb128: thats likely carnival in the rhine/ruhr area. They dont have any other reason to have fun there, so they made up a reason to get drunk.
[09:55] <larsu> Laney: but the other way around
[09:55] <seb128> Sweet5hark, does that have a german name?
[09:55] <larsu> Laney: you like !London, I dislike !Berlin
[09:55] <Laney> I think the people /in/ London are the same
[09:55] <Laney> ya
[09:56] <Sweet5hark> seb128: ... which actually involves people dressing up in fancy fantasy uniforms which is a tradition that goes back to making fun of the french occupation in napoleonic times ...
[09:56] <larsu> I've never heard anyone that lives in London responding to "Where do you live?" with "in England"
[09:56] <larsu> so yeah...
[09:56] <seb128> Sweet5hark, I guess it's Starkbierzeit
[09:56] <seb128> http://www.beerfestivals.org/articles/dest/munich_strong_beer.html
[09:57] <larsu> beerfestivals.org. of course that exists
[09:57] <seb128> :-)
[09:58] <seb128> Sweet5hark, you are probably right, that page mentions Napoleon as well
[09:58] <seb128> you guys just like to hate on the french!
[09:59] <seb128> ever been there? ;-)
[09:59] <Sweet5hark> seb128: no hate on the french from Hamburg. Napoleon gave us one of the biggest red light and party districts of europe. Not complaining.
[10:00] <seb128> hehe
[10:01] <larsu> psst, I don't think they really like Napoleon anymore
[10:02] <seb128> you haters!
[10:02] <seb128> the poor guy tried to build Europe
[10:03] <Sweet5hark> seb128: thats what Merkel does these days!
[10:03] <Sweet5hark> *cough*
[10:03] <seb128> :-)
[10:03] <seb128> good that it's friday ;-)
[10:04] <larsu> :D
[10:12]  * Sweet5hark is living on the edge today: Lets see if this hotelwifi kickbans me for 2 LibreOffice source uploads in a row ...
[10:13] <seb128> happyaron, hey, could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~brunonova/ubuntu/trusty/ibus/lp1240198/+merge/241742 ?
[10:18] <seb128> Laney, pitti, does https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/rtm-lp1337200/+merge/241749 make sense to you?
[10:18] <seb128> "Disconnect from upower on suspend and connect on resume"
[10:18] <Laney> I commented on the other version
[10:18] <seb128> that shouldn't be needed...
[10:18] <seb128> hum
[10:18] <seb128> I wonder why I sometime don't get those emails
[10:18] <seb128> I didn't get your comment
[10:19] <seb128> and I'm pretty sure I didn't delete it
[10:19] <seb128> oh, found it
[10:19] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[10:19] <seb128> Laney, do you understand why the disconnected is needed?
[10:19] <seb128> that seems like a workaround to me
[10:20] <seb128> if the system is suspended the code shouldn't be running anyway?
[10:20] <Laney> The application receives all of the signals when it resumes
[10:21] <Laney> Although actually, I'm a bit confused
[10:21] <Laney> we only subscribed to device-added and device-removed
[10:21] <Laney> why are those sent so much?
[10:22] <seb128> yeah, that seems like the real issue
[10:22] <seb128> no such signal should happen while the device is suspended
[10:22] <seb128> or in normal use
[10:22] <Laney> ah
[10:23] <Laney> they aren't
[10:23] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1337200/comments/28
[10:23] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1337200 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "High CPU due to excessive device changed signals from upower" [High,In progress]
[10:23] <Laney> pitti suggested this in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1337200/comments/27
[10:26] <larsu> wow, that sounds ridiculous. Why would the kernel generate that many events?
[10:27] <Laney> ya...
[10:27] <seb128> right
[10:28] <seb128> those changes feel like a workaround, other clients are going to have the same issue
[10:28] <seb128> we need to fix the kernel or driver or whatever generate the noise
[10:28] <larsu> having upower filter them will already help a lot
[10:28] <larsu> but it's still unnecessary wakeups (of upower)
[10:28] <larsu> every 10s...
[10:30] <pitti> seb128: I saw the MP, and based on ken's theory yesterday it makes sense; however, we didn't actually confirm that one
[10:30] <pitti> seb128: I sent some log requests (udevadm, upower --monitor-detail, dbus-monitor) to the bug report which would prove or disprove that theory
[10:30] <seb128> pitti, does it mean we need similar workaround in every single upower consumer codebase?
[10:30] <seb128> that seems crazy
[10:30] <pitti> seb128: however, ken then said that system-settings doesnt' actually listen to battery change events
[10:31] <pitti> so that rather tends to "disprove"
[10:31] <seb128> right
[10:31] <seb128> we listen to added/removed iirc
[10:31] <pitti> seb128: yeah, and those just don't happen often enough to explain this
[10:31] <pitti> so I think we are back to "someone pretty pleeeeease collect some logs"
[10:31] <Laney> does powerd use upower?
[10:31] <pitti> yes
[10:31] <Laney> could be this then
[10:31] <pitti> Laney: it even subscribes to change signals
[10:32] <pitti> as that bit required some porting
[10:32] <Laney> oh yes, this was what I noticed the other day
[11:07] <larsu> seb128: are you in ayatana-scrollbar-team? I reviewed and tested the patch for bug #1386255, but can't top-approve
[11:07] <ubot5> bug 1386255 in overlay-scrollbar (Ubuntu) "devhelp and many other apps crash with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke() due to overlay-scrollbars" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1386255
[11:10] <happyaron> seb128: yes I can, but I'm still hesitate with that change
[11:42] <willcooke> screw this - I'm putting the heating on
[11:42] <LocutusOfBorg1> Hi, I see there is a patch to fix the gnome-terminal transparency issue
[11:42] <LocutusOfBorg1> bug 1292282
[11:42] <ubot5> bug 1292282 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "background transparency is not working on gnome terminal" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1292282
[11:42] <LocutusOfBorg1> I guess if somebody can use this one https://bug695371.bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=274727
[11:44] <LocutusOfBorg1> debian/patches/0001-Restore-transparency.patch
[11:45] <Laney> LocutusOfBorg1: I don't understand the problem
[11:45] <Laney> can you explain it?
[11:46] <LocutusOfBorg1> the 0001-Restore-transparency.patch is just a revert AFAICS
[11:47] <Laney> no
[11:48] <LocutusOfBorg1> so what is the difference with the patch I linked above?
[11:48] <LocutusOfBorg1> following the upstream bug discussion seems the best patch https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695371
[11:48] <ubot5> Gnome bug 695371 in Profiles "Transparent option disappears in 3.7.x" [Normal,Resolved: notabug]
[11:49] <LocutusOfBorg1> I'm wondering if we can replace it with a (better?) more minimal and more tested patch...
[11:50] <Laney> Our patch adds proper UI back, and it's the one Fedora has.
[11:50] <Laney> It's http://debarshiray.wordpress.com/2014/05/15/transparent-terminals-back-in-fedora/
[11:52] <Laney> And the LP bug talks about gnome-terminal 3.6 which still had the option upstream
[11:52] <Laney> Soooo I think there's some confusion
[11:52] <LocutusOfBorg1> gnome 3.6 has the option, but doesn't work
[11:55] <Laney> http://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/gt.png
[11:58] <LocutusOfBorg1> doesn't work on gnome-shell
[12:01] <Laney> let's talk in here
[12:02] <Laney> I think it's best if you work with Ubuntu GNOME guys for shell specific issues
[12:02] <Laney> so, LocutusOfBorg1 meet darkxst
[12:02] <LocutusOfBorg1> thanks, I wasn't aware this was a gnome shell bug :/
[12:03] <Laney> no worries, it was confusing at first
[12:04] <LocutusOfBorg1> moreover upstream closed it as "wontfix"
[12:04] <LocutusOfBorg1> so I didn't ever try to use with unity
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[12:59] <willcooke> Laney, can you give me some bullet points from the release planning session for the summary plenary?
[12:59] <larsu> Laney: this is the source of your g-t troubles, btw: https://git.gnome.org/browse/vte/commit/?id=cb038a92719f0c84460ceed78a4197e798633a5d
[13:00] <larsu> Laney: "use color from theme" means explicitly "use @theme_bg_color"
[13:00] <Laney> willcooke: release schedule https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule
[13:00] <larsu> Laney: with a higher prio than Ambiance, because it comes from the application
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[13:00] <willcooke> Laney, perfect.
[13:01] <Laney> larsu: interesting, can we re-override it in gt?
[13:01] <larsu> Laney: yes, but we might as well in g-t, no?
[13:01] <Laney> ?
[13:01] <larsu> what's the issue here? We want purple, not @theme_bg_color?
[13:02] <larsu> but we want that purple specified by the theme?
[13:02] <Laney> right
[13:02] <larsu> weird
[13:02] <larsu> the theme knowing about applications is wrong imo
[13:03]  * didrocks goes for a run before the rain
[13:03] <larsu> we could either patch vte to not insert @theme_bg_color but something like @theme_terminal_bg_color
[13:03] <larsu> didrocks: enjoy!
[13:03] <didrocks> thanks :)
[13:04] <larsu> Laney: I actually don't have another non-insane solution
[13:04] <didrocks> … or not just started to rain :(
[13:04] <larsu> suck it up!
[13:04] <larsu> :P
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[13:05] <didrocks> well, it's not a light rain though
[13:06] <larsu> Laney: on second thought, vte putting this in there is stupid
[13:46] <larsu> Laney: why do we want the color specified by the theme? Ambiance and Radiance use the same color...
[13:46] <larsu> can't we just ship a default profile for gnome-terminal?
[13:46] <larsu> seb128: ^^ ?
[13:47] <xnox> i thought there was commented out ambieance/radiance themes for gnome-terminal which are different
[13:48] <xnox> and there was a request to enable the other one.
[13:48] <Laney> erm
[13:48] <Laney> you want to disable the "Use colours from system theme" support, which is upstream?
[13:50] <larsu> no, I want the "system theme" to not include colors specific to one application
[13:50] <larsu> thinking about it, when I chose "system theme", I really want the bg color of the rest of the apps, no?
[13:52] <Laney> It means that the "system theme" defines a default background colour for terminal windows
[13:57] <larsu> Laney: meh. I'm just trying to avoid patching
[13:57] <larsu> could ask chpe's opinion about this :D
[13:57] <Laney> I think it should be valid, as it always has been up to now, for the theme to say that it wants a specific colour for terminal screens
[13:58] <Laney> would it break if the vte one had a lower priority than the theme?
[13:58] <larsu> no
[13:58] <larsu> but would be a patch
[13:58] <larsu> I guess you're right, though. This should at least be possible
[13:58] <Laney> hahaha
[13:59] <Laney> the Egmont (?) guy seems nice
[13:59] <larsu> Egmont?
[13:59] <Laney> other vte maintainer
[13:59] <larsu> don't know him
[13:59] <Laney> he's been commenting on some LP bugs
[13:59] <larsu> do you know his nick?
[14:00] <Laney> I don't
[14:00] <Laney> This guy: https://launchpad.net/~egmont-gmail
[14:01]  * Laney tries a patched vte
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[14:03] <larsu> Laney: install the provider with GTK_STYLE_PROVIDER_PRIORITY_FALLBACK
[14:03] <Laney> exactly that
[14:03] <larsu> ^5
[14:04] <Laney> indeed, that fixes it
[14:05] <larsu> I hesitate to file an upstream bug, as noone ever answers those
[14:07] <Laney> I don't fully understand the issue the breaking change was meant to fix
[14:07] <Laney> otherwise I would do it
[14:07] <Laney> Adwaita removed a terminal/vte specific rule in favour of using @theme_base_color?
[14:07] <larsu> apparently
[14:08] <larsu> but really, vte should set the background class to get those
[14:08] <larsu> instead of having its own rule
[14:09] <larsu> but I guess it does all its drawing itself, without gtkstylecontext
[14:11] <larsu> Laney: ya. Want to go with the PRIORIY_FALLBACK patch for now?
[14:14] <Laney> larsu: Lemme think
[14:15] <Laney> It's right to use FALLBACK because you actually do want to let the theme override this, and it's going to work because Adwaita doesn't have a VteTerminal rule
[14:15] <Laney> 'kay, I'll submit this after lunch
[14:15] <Laney> biab
[14:15] <larsu> yes
[14:15] <larsu> cool
[14:36] <didrocks> ok, I finally risk for a run outside, wish me luck! :)
[14:37] <seb128> didrocks, oh, it made you bail out earlier? ;-)
[14:37] <seb128> good luck!
[14:37] <didrocks> seb128: well, it was a really heavy rain :)
[14:37] <seb128> I see
[14:38] <seb128> south of France is not what it used to be:
[14:38] <seb128> !
[14:38] <didrocks> and even if I'm not made from sugar last time I checked, I prefer to avoid catching a cold :)
[14:38] <didrocks> exactly !
[14:38] <didrocks> It's not like Toulouse :p
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[14:38] <seb128> ;-)
[14:48] <i-rinat> Hello, Marco, I'm here again.
[14:50] <i-rinat> short introduction: I'm making freshplayerplugin, a wrapper which allow using PepperFlash from Chrome in Firefox.
[14:50] <i-rinat> Recently there was a discussion on Ubuntu summit about Flash Player's EOL in 2017 and what to do with it.
[14:51] <larsu> seb128: did you see my ping about the overlay-scrollbar patch earlier?
[14:51] <i-rinat> So if there are questions about it, feel free to ask, I'll try to answer.
[14:52] <seb128> larsu, yeah, sorry but I'm not part of that team either :/
[14:52] <larsu> ok, I'll embark on the quest to become one
[14:53] <seb128> larsu, https://launchpad.net/~ayatana-scrollbar-team/+members
[14:53] <larsu> because really, nobody seems to be maintaining it
[14:53] <seb128> right
[14:53] <seb128> you can get kenvandine or didrocks or tedg to approve it, it seems
[14:53] <larsu> kenvandine: hi! Can you add me to ~ayatana-scrollbar-team s.v.p.?
[14:53] <larsu> didrocks: ^^ ?
[14:53] <larsu> oh, he's running
[14:53] <seb128> yeah
[14:54] <larsu> Cimi is also an admin *cough*
[14:54]  * tedg doesn't respond to French acronyms
[14:54] <larsu> tedg: would've asked you, but you're not admin
[14:54] <larsu> tedg: also, hi
[14:54]  * tedg just added larsu
[14:55] <larsu> nice! tedg has superpowers
[14:55] <larsu> thanks ;)
[14:55] <tedg> np
[14:55] <larsu> I guess that doesn't have auto merging turned on?
[14:55] <seb128> that concept doesn't exist anymore
[14:56] <larsu> because ci merges when tests pass?
[14:56] <tedg> larsu, Sorry, I mean: pas de probléme (according to Google translate) ;-)
[14:56] <seb128> tedg, how did you do that without being an admin? did you hack into kenvandine's account? ;-)
[14:56] <larsu> haha :)
[14:56] <larsu> omg. tedg and kenvandine are the same person!
[14:56] <seb128> larsu, no, because things go through ci train when you click buttons to publish and merge
[14:56] <tedg> larsu, Have you ever seen us together?
[14:56] <seb128> larsu, I knew something was going on between those 2!
[14:57] <tedg> seb128, I imagine I'm in a team that is admin.
[14:57] <larsu> seb128: ah, but for this I need to merge manually?
[14:57] <larsu> tedg: no!
[14:57] <larsu> tedg: oh wait, yes I have...
[14:57] <kenvandine> NO!
[14:57] <seb128> lol
[14:57] <larsu> :D
[14:57] <kenvandine> i'm much better looking :)
[14:57] <seb128> larsu, "manually"? no, somebody needs to do a train landing like for anything else
[14:58]  * tedg grows a beard to be as sexy as kenvandine
[14:58] <seb128> I was going to say :p
[14:58] <seb128> is all the beard!
[14:58] <larsu> seb128: complicated. Want to do it for me? :P
[14:58] <seb128> larsu, sure can, I'm going to delay a bit though
[14:58] <kenvandine> it's so much more than the beard
[14:58] <larsu> seb128: ya, no worries. Just making sure it's being taken care of at some point
[14:58] <seb128> larsu, trying to land the theme first so we can include the key/theme support
[14:58] <larsu> makes sense
[14:59] <larsu> kenvandine: it's the beard.
[14:59]  * larsu is in the know now that he has one
[14:59]  * seb128 is working on that as well
[14:59] <tedg> kenvandine, I'm not going to say that larsu was talking smack, but he did mention that his is bigger.
[14:59] <seb128> beard ftw!
[14:59] <kenvandine> haha
[14:59] <Trevinho> willcooke: i-rinat is the plugin guy
[15:01] <larsu> seb128: oh yeah!
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[15:02] <willcooke> thanks Trevinho, hi i-rinat
[15:02] <i-rinat> hi
[15:06] <i-rinat> willcooke: Trevinho proposed to ping you for discussion. But I don't know what about particularly :)
[15:06] <willcooke> :)
[15:06] <willcooke> He was talking to me about your flash wrapper
[15:07] <willcooke> It's in a PPA at the moment, right?
[15:07] <willcooke> I'd like to have a play with it
[15:07] <willcooke> also, any news on the HW accel video playback?
[15:10] <i-rinat> There are couple of PPA I know about, https://launchpad.net/~andykimpe/+archive/ubuntu/freshplayerplugin-daily and https://launchpad.net/~thad-fisch/+archive/ubuntu/freshplayerplugin
[15:10] <i-rinat> But I don't do any packaging myself.
[15:10] <willcooke> ok, no worries
[15:11] <willcooke> I'll have a play with it and see if we can work out how it should fit in with our overall flash strategy
[15:12] <i-rinat> I didn't touch HW accel decoding yet.
[15:12] <willcooke> ok, I was getting excited when I read about it :)
[15:13] <i-rinat> There are two kinds of hardware acceleration, one is HW decode, other is HW presentation.
[15:14] <i-rinat> I implemented 3d interface, which is used by PepperFlash to do scaling. But it's disabled by default — there some rendering issues for offscreen EGL pixmaps.
[15:15] <i-rinat> You can enable it by adding "enable_3d = 1" line to ~/.config/freshwrapper.conf
[15:16] <Trevinho> i-rinat: yes, that's a little bugged now (unless you enable EGL rendering)
[15:17] <i-rinat> Trevinho: if you have Gallium based driver, adding "EGL_DRIVER=egl_dri2" to environment may help.
[15:19] <i-rinat> willcooke: as far as I know, desktop version of Chrome (and Chromium) have HW decode disabled.
[15:20] <willcooke> ok
[16:02] <didrocks> back and avoided the rain \o/
[16:03] <Laney> dodged the drops one by one
[16:03] <Laney> The One
[16:04] <didrocks> tedg: « pas de problème » actually
[16:05] <didrocks> tedg: but, as you are coming from Texas, I guess the accent can match people pronouncing "bléme" ;)
[16:05] <tedg> Ha! GOOGLE!!!!!
[16:06] <didrocks> tedg: maybe it's Texan Google messing up with you? Here it's translated to "pas de problème" :)
[16:13] <tedg> Oh, I probably used the compose key incorrectly.
[16:15] <didrocks> what a weird keyboard layout if you need a compose key for é or è… </trolling> ;)
[16:16] <chrisccoulson> qengho, what's happening with the chrome / chromium gpu-process startup crash I mentioned before? :)
[16:23] <qengho> chrisccoulson: is it the i9xx bug?
[16:23] <chrisccoulson> qengho, yeah
[16:27] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: hey! while you are around: is the appmenu patches for firefox an extension or just a patch?
[16:27] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, it's a patch
[16:27] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: context: I was thinking about integration the firefox developer edition to udtc
[16:27] <didrocks> but for that, I can't really apply a patch on the fly as we dl binaries
[16:27] <qengho> chrisccoulson: I thought it was better. I haven't seen it lately. I'm using a Haswell i915 right now.
[16:27] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: ok, I'm sad panda then ;)
[16:28] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, well, they repurposed the aurora channel as the developer edition, which is packaged here https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/firefox-aurora
[16:29] <chrisccoulson> that does replace the stock firefox though
[16:29] <qengho> brb, reboot
[16:30] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: you do apply the patches automatically daily?
[16:30] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, yeah, it's all there
[16:30] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: interesting, so I should just link udtc to add that ppa and install from there I guess
[16:30] <didrocks> thanks :)
[16:31] <qengho> chrisccoulson: back!
[16:38] <chrisccoulson> qengho, it's still broken here. If I delete my profile and restart, I see "GPU process was unable to boot: GPU access is disabled in chrome://settings" and "GpuProcessHostUIShim: The GPU process crashed!" in chrome://gpu
[16:39] <chrisccoulson> "Disabled Features: all"
[16:39] <chrisccoulson> I can't even use webgl, and trying to watch videos with it is painful
[16:42] <mdeslaur> qengho, chrisccoulson: I hit it daily
[16:46] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, it's not just every day for me - it's every time I start chrome (or chromium). it hasn't worked since I upgraded to utopic
[16:46] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, qengho, interestingly, it doesn't crash if I run it with --in-process-gpu
[16:47] <chrisccoulson> or --no-sandbox
[16:48] <qengho> chrisccoulson, mdeslaur: That's the problem, the GPU driver tries to do more than the chrome-sandbox allows.
[16:48] <seb128> chromium trigger an apport prompt every time I start it here
[16:48] <seb128> not sure it's the same issue
[16:48] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: I only open chromium once a day to try something out :P
[16:48] <pitti> seb128: me 2
[16:49] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, qengho, I'm just going to keep opening and closing chrome until google notice it (it sends 3 crashdumps each time) :)
[16:49] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: oh! you can script that :)
[16:49] <chrisccoulson> yeah, I was just thinking that
[16:49] <chrisccoulson> lol
[16:50] <mdeslaur> brute-forcing a bugfix, nice :)
[16:50] <chrisccoulson> :)
[16:51] <qengho> :)  They know of it. Cr team got keithp on the line. He wrote about it: http://keithp.com/blogs/chromium-dri3/
[16:52] <qengho> chrisccoulson: I'll see if there's anything I can do about it.
[16:53] <chrisccoulson> qengho, ah, thanks
[16:54]  * didrocks waves good evening and good night
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[19:37] <willcooke> and we outta here
[19:37] <willcooke> g'night all
[20:39] <darkxst> LocutusOfBorg1, terminal transparency should work fine on gnome-shell
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