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[02:04] <imgbot> === trainguards: IMAGE 19 building (started: 20141113 02:05) === [03:24] <imgbot> === trainguards: IMAGE 19 DONE (finished: 20141113 03:25) === [03:24] <imgbot> === changelog: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/19.changes === === cprov__ is now known as cprov_ === nik90_ is now known as nik90 === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [05:19] <Mirv> mornings === verterok` is now known as verterok === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [10:29] <oSoMoN> trainguards: hey, can silo 6 be published, please? [10:57] <oSoMoN> ping, any trainguards around? [11:00] <Mirv> oSoMoN: o/ [11:00] <Mirv> publishing [11:02] <oSoMoN> Mirv, note that there are packaging changes, they have already been acked by kenvandine [11:02] <oSoMoN> Mirv, see his approval here: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/sanity-unit-tests/+merge/241543 [11:03] <Mirv> oSoMoN: oh, excellent, I was just about to ping og_ra on them [11:03] <ogra_> heh [11:03] <Mirv> oSoMoN: that doesn't include the autopilot dep changes though [11:03] <oSoMoN> ah, right, it doesn’t indeed [11:03] <oSoMoN> ogra_ to the rescue? ;) [11:04] <Mirv> yes. ogra_ : https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-006-2-publish/37/artifact/packaging_changes_webbrowser-app_0.23+15.04.20141113-0ubuntu1.diff [11:04] <Mirv> looks correct, autopilot-touch depends on python3-autopilot plus autopilot-qt5 which depends on libautopilot-qt [11:04] <ogra_> hmm, i hate that i cant see which section these changes are in [11:04] <Mirv> ogra_: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/depend-on-autopilot-touch/+merge/240039 [11:05] <ogra_> yeah, doesnt help :P [11:05] <Mirv> well that of course doesn't help :D [11:05] <Mirv> I agree, it's annoying [11:05] <ogra_> (same diff) [11:05] <Mirv> you can guess since you see the first line of description... [11:05] <oSoMoN> yup, it would be cool to be able to display the entire file in launchpad’s diffs [11:08] <ogra_> ok, took a bit (dug up the complete file from the branch) ... [11:08] <ogra_> ACK [11:08] <Mirv> ACK [11:10] <cjwatson> oSoMoN: Could you file a bug on Launchpad itself suggesting that, please? I had a quick look and nothing similar appears to have been filed already. [11:11] <oSoMoN> cjwatson, sure, will do [11:17] <oSoMoN> ogra_, Mirv: thanks! [11:19] <oSoMoN> lp timed out when trying to file a bug against it :/ [11:19] <oSoMoN> now it got through [11:19] <oSoMoN> cjwatson, bug #1392282 [11:20] <ubot5> bug 1392282 in Launchpad itself "Feature request: show entire file in diffs generated for merge requests" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1392282 [11:20] <ogra_> it just wants to make you think twice ;) [11:21] <oSoMoN> or it’s a clever way of devising the perfect product: no bug reports, no bugs :) [11:23] <cjwatson> oSoMoN: thanks [11:23] <cjwatson> timeout> oops id or it didn't happen :) [11:23] <oSoMoN> darn, I close the page, didn’t keep the oops id at hand [11:23] <oSoMoN> s/close/closed/ [11:24] <cjwatson> (but it might just be one of the gazillion problems that will be fixed once the new database servers are installed) === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [11:42] <bzoltan> slangasek: We need your eyes on the new qtbase candidate which brings the multiarch cross supporting qmake [11:43] <Mirv> slangasek: there's a debdiff of Zoltan's work at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/190250795/qtbase-opensource-src_5.3.2%2Bdfsg-4ubuntu2_5.3.2%2Bdfsg-4ubuntu3~vivid1~test1.diff.gz (don't mind the changelog stuff, I'd do a proper build after there's agreement on the method) [11:48] <mvo_> Mirv: nice, that looks pretty straightforward === greyback__ is now known as greyback === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:25] <boiko> robru: hi, would you mind reconfiguring vivid silo 22 again? I had to add one more MR to it [13:33] <Mirv> boiko: he's not awake for 3.5h more hours, but I'm here for a bit still [13:34] <boiko> Mirv: ah ok, would you mind reconfiguring the silo then? [13:37] <Mirv> boiko: yep already done [13:37] <boiko> Mirv: thanks! === karni is now known as karni-lunch === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:05] <silDroid> Hello! [14:06] <silDroid> Dropped in for a moment to check how things are going [14:06] <silDroid> I see the landing gates are closed already? [14:06] <silDroid> Any topblockers remaining? :) [14:07] <ogra_> silDroid, sure, lots [14:07] <ogra_> silDroid, but we have a ggood RC candidate [14:07] <ogra_> looks like we'll make it for tomorrow promotion ;) [14:07] <silDroid> No waaay! [14:07] <ogra_> processes processes processes ;) [14:07] * ogra_ does the ballemt [14:08] <ogra_> *ballmer [14:09] <silDroid> Anyway, great news, thanks for handling this guys [14:21] <silDroid> My turn in the queue, good luck everyone and keep on rocking! [14:21] <silDroid> See you later ;) [14:21] <silDroid> o/ [15:03] <sergiusens> ogra_: do I need to bribe you these days for silos? [15:04] <sergiusens> or Mirv and rsalveti still good candidates? [15:04] * sergiusens wants one for line 72 [15:04] <sergiusens> should be a quick one [15:04] <rsalveti> I can do it [15:04] <ogra_> sergiusens, Mirv and robru are the trainguards [15:04] <ogra_> i do the landing tea, duties beyond that [15:04] <ogra_> *team too :P [15:04] <rsalveti> sergiusens: silo 6 [15:05] <sergiusens> ogra_: so you are above everyone? sort of like a manager :-P [15:05] <sergiusens> rsalveti: thanks [15:05] <ogra_> kind of ... the amount of meetings i have agrees === karni-lunch is now known as karni [15:38] <Mirv> ogra_: one landing tea for me, please! [15:38] * ogra_ goes brewing :) [15:38] * Mirv likes fast service [15:39] <jgdx> cihelp: we (uss team) are having some issues with the otto test runner e.g. [1]. Tests are failing, then timing out, then a Java error. Any clues as to why this happens? Thanks! :) [1] https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-testrunner-otto-vivid/109/consoleFull [15:47] <davmor2> ogra_: you don't do landing coffees man you're a drinkist who knew === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [15:51] <ogra_> davmor2, lol, for myself i only do coffees :) but there is a missus here in the house too ;) [15:52] <davmor2> ogra_: oh you mean there is a boss in the house right ;) [15:52] <ogra_> yeah :) === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [16:05] <fginther> jgdx, I'll take a look. First question I have, are these desktop tests providing useful results over the tests that are running on touch? [16:15] <jgdx> fginther, yes, they have so far. === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [17:24] <jdstrand> trainguards: can I have a silo for line 73? [17:25] <ogra_> robru, you around ? [17:27] <bzoltan> slangasek: ping [17:28] <slangasek> bzoltan: hi [17:29] <bzoltan> slangasek: would you have few secs to check my change proposal for the qtbase packaging? [17:30] <bzoltan> slangasek: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?distro=ubuntu&q=landing-016 [17:30] <bzoltan> slangasek: details -> https://code.launchpad.net/~bzoltan/kubuntu-packaging/qt5-qmake-cross-armhf/+merge/241568 [17:31] <bzoltan> slangasek: this will enable the SDK to use the x86 qmake binary with the armhf dev packages... namingly enable the qmake project types in multiarch click chroots [17:35] <slangasek> bzoltan: currently on a call, sorry [17:35] <bzoltan> slangasek: no worries :) pong me when you have few minutes for me [17:53] <robru> ogra_: hey what's up? [17:53] <robru> jdstrand: rtm 2 [17:54] <jdstrand> robru: thanks! [17:54] <robru> jdstrand: you're welcome [17:56] <ogra_> robru, just wanted to know if you are there since you werent at the meeting ... (i would have looked for another llander for the US TZ then) [18:02] <robru> ogra_: ah sorry, just missed my alarm. I'm around now if you need me to handle anything === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:08] <ogra_> robru, no, all fine ... RTM is still frozen hard anyway [18:13] <brendand_> ogra_, it's starting to look like this MTP issue is real [18:14] <ogra_> brendand_, hmm, hwo long/often do i need to connect to actually see it [18:14] <ogra_> (i tried three times since the meeting and cant manage to get it) [18:15] <brendand_> ogra_, you have to leave the device disconnected for a little while [18:15] <ogra_> bah ... and saying that ... [18:15] <ogra_> i did [18:15] <ogra_> three times [18:15] <ogra_> and just tried again now [18:15] <ogra_> and got it :( [18:16] <brendand_> ogra_, and i rolled back to 151 and couldn't get it [18:16] <ogra_> brendand_, but [18:17] <ogra_> brendand_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8991048/ [18:17] <ogra_> this is clearly a hos issue [18:17] <ogra_> *host [18:17] <ogra_> please check your PC logs [18:17] <brendand_> ogra_, which log was that? [18:17] <ogra_> dmesg on my laptop [18:20] <ogra_> there is either something going on on kernel level on the device or on driver level on the PC [18:21] <brendand_> ogra_, i actually get http://paste.ubuntu.com/8991087/ [18:21] <brendand_> ogra_, so what's the deal with it working on 151 then? [18:21] <ogra_> brendand_, that log looks fine [18:21] <ogra_> and i have to take back everything i said ... my screen was locked [18:21] * ogra_ slaps forehead [18:22] <brendand_> ogra_, are you looking the directory i told you or seeing what nautilus is doing? [18:22] <ogra_> brendand_, not yet ... i was double clicking nautilus and noticed it didnt open the device [18:22] <ogra_> then checked my dmesg [18:22] <brendand_> ogra_, didn't open at all? [18:22] <ogra_> but indeed you need to unlock the screen before connecting [18:23] <ogra_> totally forgot about that [18:23] <brendand_> ogra_, well you can unlock after too [18:23] <ogra_> right [18:23] <brendand_> ogra_, if the phone is locked then there will be something in 'ls $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR/gvfs' but nothing in that directory [18:24] <ogra_> confirmed [18:24] <brendand_> ogra_, if it's unlocked then you will see directories for the Internal storage and SD card [18:24] <brendand_> ogra_, unless you get the bug described then there will be nothing in gvfs [18:25] <ogra_> right [18:25] <brendand_> ogra_, davmor2 confirmed independently [18:25] <davmor2> ogra_: it's true sorry I blame you, brendand_ is nice and blames cyphermox [18:26] <ogra_> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ status mtp-server [18:26] <ogra_> mtp-server stop/waiting [18:26] <ogra_> thats probably the reason [18:26] <brendand_> ogra_, yeah that would be it i guess [18:26] <brendand_> ogra_, but why did it stop? there's no crash file [18:27] <ogra_> yep, a "start mtp-server" and re-plugging fixes it [18:27] <ogra_> no crash file ... [18:28] <brendand_> ogra_, indeed [18:28] <brendand_> ogra_, well we can't expect our users to know to do that [18:28] <brendand_> ogra_, obviously [18:28] <brendand_> ogra_, so you can confirm it too then? [18:28] <ogra_> yes [18:28] <brendand_> ogra_, obviously :) [18:28] <ogra_> just looking at the last changes [18:28] <brendand_> ogra_, silo 18 was about mtp [18:29] <brendand_> ogra_, landed around 155/156 [18:29] <ogra_> yes [18:29] <ogra_> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/190012631/mtp_0.0.4%2B14.10.20140909~rtm-0ubuntu1_0.0.4%2B15.04.20141104~rtm-0ubuntu1.diff.gz [18:29] <ogra_> oops [18:30] <ogra_> LP fooled me [18:30] <ogra_> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/189438431/mtp_0.0.4%2B15.04.20141103~rtm-0ubuntu1_0.0.4%2B15.04.20141104~rtm-0ubuntu1.diff.gz [18:30] <ogra_> thats the right diff [18:32] <ogra_> cyphermox, why did we add all this dbus stuff instead of blantly make it sleep 10 sec ? [18:32] <ogra_> olli, so thats pretty bad news :( [18:33] <cyphermox> where? [18:33] <brendand_> ogra_, well we just need to get a fix and retest it tomorrow [18:33] <olli> ogra_, what [18:33] <ogra_> cyphermox, in pre-start of mtp-server ... [18:33] <ogra_> olli, mtp is broken [18:33] <brendand_> olli, we found a bug where mtp stops working if you leave the device disconnected for a little while [18:34] <brendand_> olli, it's a regression from the last promotion [18:34] <ogra_> brendand_, so you think just atomic testing is enough for that ? [18:34] <ogra_> no full re-test needed ? [18:34] <brendand_> ogra_, of the whole image? if that's the only thing that lands? [18:35] <ogra_> brendand_, well ... (silent sigh) .... slangasek uploaded his livecd-rootfs change ... so shorts will be gone (which is wanted but adds another diff) [18:35] <olli> pmcgowan, ^ [18:35] <ogra_> brendand_, i assume thats no biggie though [18:35] <brendand_> ogra_, :/ this is why things need to be actually frozen [18:36] <ogra_> brendand_, yes, i only saw the upload today when checking rtm-changes [18:36] <brendand_> ogra_, anyway we found the bug, now we need to deal with it [18:36] <ogra_> brendand_, right, i was fearing a full re-test run [18:36] <ogra_> if we can handle that atomic then it is fine [18:36] <brendand_> ogra_, if a full retest is really warranted then we might do that [18:36] <brendand_> ogra_, not sure if jibel is around but it's probably up to him [18:37] * brendand_ needs to go make dinner [18:37] <brendand_> i'll come back later to find out what's happening [18:37] <jibel> if the change impacts the upstart job of mtp-server only, I tihnk it's safe to re-run the sanity tests + regressions tests of mtp [18:37] <olli> ogra_, we might want to discuss whether it makes sense to pursue the promotion or not [18:38] <olli> +to discuss whether [18:38] <ogra_> olli, well, if we can just do an atomic re-test of the change we are still on schedule [18:38] <ogra_> seems QA thinks thats possible [18:38] <jibel> ogra_, however there is the livecd-rootfs change. [18:39] <ogra_> jibel, which just removed the shorts .click [18:39] <ogra_> jibel, i could also temporary roll that one back for this one build and re-land it [18:39] <ogra_> if that makes you feel better (though i generally trust slangasek's code usually) [18:40] <robru> ogra_: hey, question for you. I need to test some changes to the way the train builds source packages. the one I've chosen at random for testing takes a little while to build and is slowing my ability to iterate. Can you think of any source packages which we normally release through the train which is just a super trivial package that can be built [18:40] <robru> near-instantly? [18:40] <ogra_> jibel, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/190258118/livecd-rootfs_2.257_2.257%2Brtm.1.diff.gz [18:40] <jibel> ogra_, yeah expect the unexpected [18:40] <jibel> ok [18:40] <ogra_> easy to roll back [18:40] <ogra_> if needed [18:41] <ogra_> robru, hmm [18:41] <ogra_> robru, ubuntu-touch-session is only processing .install files iirc [18:41] <robru> ogra_: thanks [18:42] <slangasek> ogra_: what's the argument for rolling back livecd-rootfs? I was told this needed to be out for RTM [18:43] <ogra_> slangasek, we are in a hard freeze for RC [18:43] <slangasek> and there are no code changes here, just adding one click to the exclusion list [18:43] <ogra_> slangasek, and we found a regression that wequires us to re-roll [18:43] <ogra_> slangasek, right, i think jibel agrees [18:43] <slangasek> ogra_: ok [18:44] <ogra_> slangasek, and if disagreement comes up i'll take care to temporarily revert that (but dropping one click wont do harm to testing imho) [18:46] <cyphermox> ogra_: mtp isn't broken, it's unnecessary to add straight sleep and sleep if the greeter is already available [18:47] <cyphermox> ogra_: this definitely isn't brendand_'s issue if it works for a while and later stops [18:47] <ogra_> hmm, k [18:48] <ogra_> cyphermox, the gadget is fine too ... else adb wouldnt work straight away ... and it wasnt broken in 151 which was tested for several days [18:49] <cyphermox> well, for some reason the usb device fails after a while, this has nothing to do with dbus or upstart [18:50] <ogra_> right, but it didnt happen a few images ago ... must be something recent [18:51] <cyphermox> yes, we should find what recent change made this fail [18:51] <cyphermox> or if it's something that has always been the case, just never noticed before [18:52] <olli> ogra_, pls let me know the final verdict [18:52] <cyphermox> brendand_: is there nothing in syslog? [18:52] <ogra_> olli, yeah, seems we dont know what causes it :( [18:52] <olli> again, aborting and rerouting QA efforts is a valid option in my books [18:52] <pmcgowan> or when it started [18:53] <ogra_> cyphermox, well, mtp-server iis clearly not running when this happens [18:53] <ogra_> olli, re-routing ? [18:53] <olli> what we discussed earlier, regression/promotion vs silo testing [18:53] <ogra_> olli, that would mean another three days for an image before we can promote [18:54] <cyphermox> ogra_: it wouldn't be if the usb device got reset [18:54] <olli> ogra_, understood [18:54] <ogra_> since it would have to be re-tested from scratch [18:54] <olli> ogra_, all I am saying is that we should discuss how to proceed when we know what's up with mtp [18:54] <ogra_> olli, the way they want to do it is to fix the issue and validate on top of the tested one ... that way we can still be on time (if a fix is found tonight) [18:54] <cyphermox> ogra_: is there nothing in syslog that indicates the usb device got reset? [18:55] <olli> ogra_, understood, this is assuming it's a contained fix [18:55] <olli> so, let's see what the issue is [18:56] <ogra_> cyphermox, there is some gadget noise, but i'm not sure thats not just the plug/unplug of the cable http://paste.ubuntu.com/8991493/ [18:57] <ogra_> and it isnt unusual [18:58] <cyphermox> is it? [18:58] <ogra_> gadget: high-speed config #1: android is a plug event [18:58] <ogra_> try yourself [19:00] <cyphermox> working on it. [19:00] <cyphermox> wait a second [19:00] <cyphermox> brendand_: what computer are you using for this? [19:01] <cyphermox> are you plugging in to USB 2.0 or USB 3.0 ports? [19:01] <ogra_> [3630479.605545] usb 2-1.4.3.1: new high-speed USB device number 31 using ehci-pci [19:02] <ogra_> i'm in 2.0 here [19:02] <cyphermox> yeah, figured [19:02] <ogra_> oh [19:02] <ogra_> wait [19:02] <ogra_> lol [19:02] <cyphermox> I'm probably never going to be able to reproduce this with this computer, I need to get the other, just a minute. [19:02] * ogra_ uses not the terminal logged into his desktop this time :P [19:02] <ogra_> [532498.720830] usb 3-1: new high-speed USB device number 19 using xhci_hcd [19:02] <ogra_> 3.0 [19:03] <ogra_> cyphermox, what i dont get is that adb stays rock stable while this happens [19:03] <cyphermox> and is that the computer on which you're able to reproduce the issue? [19:03] <ogra_> the gadget doesnt get reset [19:03] <ogra_> yes [19:03] <cyphermox> the gadget doesn't, but the usb device might [19:04] <ogra_> E1113 19:59:21.748877 6737 MtpServer.cpp:174] request read returned -1: Input/output error [5] [19:04] <ogra_> I1113 19:59:22.480207 6768 server.cpp:419] MTP server starting... [19:04] <ogra_> thats from mtp-server.log [19:04] <cyphermox> I know [19:04] <ogra_> but i guess you have seen that already [19:04] <ogra_> how does MtpServer.cpp talk to the device ? [19:04] <ogra_> any dbus involved ? [19:04] <ogra_> (i guess not) [19:05] <cyphermox> how would there be? [19:05] <cyphermox> it's straight USB [19:05] <ogra_> right [19:06] <cyphermox> that's why you get I/O errors, at some point you're trying to read from the device, but it got reset or something, so that read fails [19:06] <ogra_> how about suspended ? [19:06] <ogra_> (but why would adb not be suspended then) [19:06] <cyphermox> and then you're probably hitting that multiple times while as you plug in, the device is trying to settle [19:07] <ogra_> right, you get the upstart event from the plug [19:07] <cyphermox> because adb never gets stopped, it just runs, no? [19:07] <cyphermox> right [19:07] <cyphermox> so upstart likely gives up on mtp-server after a while [19:07] <ogra_> well, adb needs the gadget available [19:07] <cyphermox> I'd like to try respawn limit unlimited after I'm done trying to reproduce this bug [19:07] <ogra_> it dies if it isnt there [19:07] <cyphermox> the gadget is available [19:08] <cyphermox> seven minutes to go [19:08] <ogra_> ? [19:09] <cyphermox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mtp/+bug/1392405 steps to reproduce [19:09] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1392405 in mtp (Ubuntu) "MTP device cannot be mounted after some time" [Undecided,Confirmed] [19:10] <ogra_> heh, i didnt time it for that long [19:12] <cyphermox> nah, it doesn't have to be that long [19:12] <brendand_> cyphermox, no i just asked davmor2 to do 15 minutes to make sure [19:12] <cyphermox> it's not necessary to wait that long [19:12] <brendand_> cyphermox, i've had it happen after much shorter periods of time [19:12] <cyphermox> it's usb, nothing is timed [19:13] <pmcgowan> cyphermox, this is my syslog at the time mtp log says it first failed http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8991687/ [19:13] <ogra_> its krillin, you never know :P [19:13] <pmcgowan> thats from my mako, I can check the other they are both with the issue [19:14] <cyphermox> trying something, now I just need to wait two minutes so I can actually see the difference in timestamps in the logs [19:14] <davmor2> cyphermox: I just put in the steps I followed for it to work [19:14] <cyphermox> I have a fix ready [19:14] <brendand_> cyphermox, \o/ [19:14] <cyphermox> this wouldn't be some new bug though [19:14] <ogra_> but a new manifestation [19:15] <cyphermox> not even [19:15] <cyphermox> just new people noticing it [19:15] <ogra_> lol [19:15] <ogra_> that would be owrrying though [19:15] <ogra_> *worrying too [19:16] <ogra_> given these same people test every image [19:16] <cyphermox> they don't always test the same way the exact same things [19:16] <brendand_> cyphermox, no - it doesn't happen on 151 [19:16] <cyphermox> and there's a bit of luck involved [19:16] <ogra_> brendand_, you won the lottery ;) [19:18] <cyphermox> yeah, seems better [19:21] <davmor2> ogra_: yeah but when you test the image it's one test after another the phone isn't idle for long so it wouldn't show up :) [19:22] <jibel> cyphermox, it's recent and not luck [19:22] <cyphermox> jibel: it's debatable. The only reason you weren't seeing this while the previous version was in use is that it would fail before you'd get to that point [19:22] <ogra_> davmor2, yeah, we need to add some long time tests perhaps [19:22] <cyphermox> and before that, you still had the same issue [19:23] <davmor2> ogra_: not to the sanity tests, the idea there is they are quick not long :P [19:23] <ogra_> davmor2, i bet you nnever hit the UI hang either in normal testing ... typically only something you see after long time usage [19:24] <davmor2> ogra_: indeed I think you spout rubbish when you go on about these hangs ;) [19:24] <ogra_> haha [19:24] <pmcgowan> ogra_, I see that error in a log I have from Monday if that means anything [19:25] <ogra_> pmcgowan, what error ? [19:25] <cyphermox> pmcgowan: how should we proceed to land the fix, silo as per usual, or skip some steps and upload somewhere else? [19:25] <pmcgowan> E1110 11:56:05.048171 2794 MtpServer.cpp:169] request read returned -1: Input/output error [5] [19:26] <pmcgowan> cyphermox, silo per usual [19:27] <ogra_> cyphermox, right, silo it, have davmor2, brendand_ or jibel test and sign off the silo and i'll roll an image once it landed [19:27] <pmcgowan> cyphermox, do you understand when it was introduced or revealed? [19:27] <ogra_> pmcgowan, ah, i thought you referred to the syslog paste :) [19:27] <cyphermox> it's probably from the first version of mtp ever released, just got hidden by the previous greeter issue [19:27] <pmcgowan> ogra_, sorry no the mtp server log [19:28] <pmcgowan> ah right, the greeter messages go away then [19:28] <cyphermox> if someone could appropriate bless https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mtp/+bug/1392405 that would be helpful [19:28] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1392405 in mtp (Ubuntu) "MTP device cannot be mounted after some time" [Undecided,Confirmed] [19:29] <ogra_> pmcgowan, olli ^^ [19:29] <pmcgowan> on it [19:29] * ogra_ looks at the MP [19:29] <cyphermox> ogra_: want to review https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/mtp/lp1392405/+merge/241733 ? [19:29] <cyphermox> ah, yeah [19:29] <ogra_> cyphermox, to slow, already approved :P [19:30] <cyphermox> ack [19:30] <cyphermox> robru: can I haz a silo for line 74 please? [19:30] <ogra_> can you silo it yourself ? [19:30] <ogra_> or that :) [19:30] <cyphermox> ah, actually I could just assign it myself [19:30] <ogra_> yeah [19:30] <cyphermox> vivid first, then rtm [19:30] <ogra_> tsk [19:31] <cyphermox> ah, I see, spreadshett issue for me [19:32] <robru> cyphermox: need help? [19:32] <robru> cyphermox: my mouse cursor has gone invisible for some reason so I'm totally flying blind right now... [19:32] <pmcgowan> cyphermox, doesnt it already try to restart for a full 30 secs? [19:32] <cyphermox> maybe, just waiting for google to let me refresh [19:33] <robru> yeah spreadsheet seems down [19:33] <cyphermox> robru: I think I'm good now, I'll do the assign myself [19:33] <robru> cyphermox: coo [19:33] <cyphermox> oh wait, no [19:33] <robru> l [19:33] <cyphermox> well, one day [19:37] <cyphermox> alright, silo 15 [19:38] <olli> cyphermox, thx for the quick fix [19:40] <pmcgowan> cyphermox, can you explain a bit how this will fix it, it seems it tried a long time to respawn even now [19:40] <olli> ogra_, if that's the remedy, then I think we are all +1 on your & QA's proposal of continueing with business as usual [19:40] <ogra_> olli, right, let QA sign off the fix in the silo first :) [19:41] <olli> ogra_, just early unblocking the best case scenario [19:41] <ogra_> yep [19:41] <cyphermox> pmcgowan: what do you mean? [19:41] <ogra_> i just want to see QA give a thumbs up for the fix [19:41] <cyphermox> it's not about time but about the number of tries [19:42] <pmcgowan> cyphermox, sure but why wouldnt it restart within 30 secs [19:42] <cyphermox> I'm not sure where you get the 30 seconds from [19:43] <cyphermox> mtp runs when usb is connected, and stop when usb is disconnected, it's really only that [19:43] <cyphermox> but as you connect or disconnect it, there is a short period of time where the usb device might come up and down a few times as it gets ready [19:43] <cyphermox> and that's what is causing the issue [19:44] <cyphermox> if it does that while mtp is starting (or stopping, really), eventually upstart would give up trying to restart mtp-server since it appears to not be useful [19:44] <pmcgowan> cyphermox, if I look at my mtp server log I see it try to start over a period of 30 secs, unlesss I read it wrong [19:52] <cyphermox> pmcgowan: I see what you mean now, indeed it's no longer being stopped at all. *sigh* [20:01] <pmcgowan> cyphermox, ogra_should we revert that last upstart change? [20:01] <cyphermox> no [20:01] <ogra_> pmcgowan, no, it will fix it [20:01] <ogra_> or work around it [20:04] <cyphermox> I never touched the server low-level read code before, that will need to be improved but it will take longer to fix [20:05] <cyphermox> for what we're trying to do now, the upstart fix will do the job [20:08] <olli> ogra_, cyphermox, no witchhunt, but do we know whether this is a regression and if so, when it slipped in [20:08] <cyphermox> it's not a regression, it has always been an issue, or at least easily since last year [20:08] <ogra_> olli, no, this has been broken since day one, the recent change just exposes it more [20:09] <ogra_> olli, there is some issue with how mtp talks to USB === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [20:15] <cyphermox> robru: ^ [20:46] <ogra_> cyphermox, hmm, was there any reason to not land in parallel ? [20:47] * ogra_ fears we wont have QA people alive anymore one the rtm silo is availabel for signoff [20:47] <cyphermox> nothing is truly in parallel, stuff just gets synced [20:47] <ogra_> should have just dput'ed to both silos and manually megred the branch :) [20:47] <cyphermox> robru: can you poke like 75 appropriately so things work? [20:47] <jibel> ogra_, cyphermox what's the ETA for the rtm silo? [20:48] <ogra_> jibel, well, as long as it now takes to assign an rtm silo and build (plus a short test i guess) [20:49] <ogra_> 30min ? 1h at most i would hope [20:49] <cyphermox> it shouldn't even take that long [20:49] <fginther> jgdx, current round of otto issues have been resolved. A rerun of the MP you pointed me to is now passing - https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-testrunner-otto-vivid/115/ [20:57] <ogra_> cyphermox, well, depends if it ever starts :P [20:57] <cyphermox> robru: ping [20:58] <cyphermox> heh [20:59] <cyphermox> ok, rtm 13 [20:59] <cyphermox> now to copy [21:00] <ToyKeeper> cyphermox: When the mtp upstart silo is ready, I'll take it. [21:00] <ogra_> just dupt the vivid source package worst case [21:00] <ogra_> *dput even [21:00] <cyphermox> well, using copy package, that's exactly what I'm going to be doing [21:00] <ogra_> cool [21:02] <cyphermox> there, copied... now to poke jenkins [21:06] <cyphermox> ToyKeeper: despite what the spreadsheet or jenkins might be saying, the package is built and published in the PPA, so you can test it when you want [21:06] <cyphermox> oh wait [21:06] <cyphermox> I suck [21:06] <cyphermox> it *hasn't* been published yet :) [21:06] <ToyKeeper> Heh, I'll wait a few, then. :) [21:09] <robru> cyphermox: are you binary copying or source copying? [21:09] <cyphermox> I was doing a binary copy [21:09] <robru> cyphermox: oh ok, carry on [21:09] <robru> cyphermox: source copies without manglign the version for rtm are frowned upon [21:10] <cyphermox> ToyKeeper: it is published now [21:10] <cyphermox> robru: yeah [21:12] <ToyKeeper> cyphermox: That's silo 13? (woot, lucky number 13) [21:12] <cyphermox> yeah [21:12] <cyphermox> in rtm [21:16] <olli> ogra_, cyphermox et al, jfunk just sent out some guidance how to proceed with the mtp issue in terms of promotion etc [21:17] <ogra_> where did that go ? [21:17] <ToyKeeper> Planning to test the diff in detail, and otherwise stack on existing regression test results from 159. [21:17] <jfunk> ogra_: should be in your mail? [21:17] * ogra_ guesses his mailserver is still busy processing warthogs :P [21:18] <jfunk> lol [21:18] <ToyKeeper> Oh, plus sanity on 161. :) [21:20] <ogra_> jfunk, did you mean 160 ? [21:21] <ogra_> (we are at 159, the re-build for the fix will be 160) [21:21] <jfunk> ogra_: yeah, for some reason 161 was bandied about, I thought it was due to the fix which went in for spanish build [21:22] <jgdx> fginther, woot, thanks a bunch. [21:22] <ogra_> jfunk, the fix for the spanish image wont affect the other ... version wise [21:22] * ogra_ checks the spanish channel [21:23] <ogra_> yeah, that has version 105 [21:24] <jfunk> so yeah, feel free to clarify on the thread [21:24] <jfunk> sry for any confusion [21:24] <ogra_> well, i'm not sure if the fix for the spanish translation has landed yet [21:24] <cwayne> it has [21:24] <ogra_> so this could be 106 or 107 ... the normal channel will be and stay 160 though [21:25] <ogra_> ah, then it should become 106 [21:25] <ogra_> great, same digits ... just different order :) [21:25] <cwayne> but there's another fix incoming though (the scopes order had been wrong [21:25] <ogra_> bah, you broke the number scheme then :P [21:26] * ogra_ decided to buold 10 no-change images in the normal channel so it can be 107 and 170 [21:26] <cwayne> lol [21:27] <ogra_> that will only dely us by 15h ... [21:27] <ogra_> *delay [21:32] <ToyKeeper> cyphermox: Er, W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ci-train-ppa-service/landing-013/ubuntu-rtm/dists/devel/main/binary-armhf/Packages 403 Forbidden [21:33] <cyphermox> well, the dist isn't devel... [21:34] <cyphermox> that should be pointing to 14.09 should it not? [21:34] <ogra_> yes [21:34] <ToyKeeper> I'm checking my citrain tools now... this worked last time I tried it. [21:36] <ToyKeeper> I think it's because devel-proposed points at 14.09-proposed, but that pointer isn't synced everywhere. [21:36] <ToyKeeper> Easy enough to avoid. :) [21:44] <jdstrand> fyi, rtm silo 002 testing passed. I'm not going to mark it until I get the ok to push it [21:44] <jdstrand> I did add something to the Comments to that effect [21:49] <ogra_> jdstrand, nothing lands without QA signoff anyway [21:49] <jdstrand> well, I guess I can mark it [21:50] <ogra_> right [22:00] <pmcgowan> ogra_, did you test 13 already? [22:00] <pmcgowan> how fitting [22:00] <ogra_> pmcgowan, ToyKeeper is on it ... just waiting for a go ... then i'll roll a new image [22:01] <ToyKeeper> Yes, it's in progress. [22:01] <ogra_> pmcgowan, as someone who could repro it before you could indeed test it too to confirm it is gone for you ;) [22:02] <ogra_> as extra datapoint [22:02] <pmcgowan> yep installing now [22:11] <pmcgowan> it seems to be recovering but so many retries [22:12] <ogra_> yeah, it will need a better fix later [22:12] <ogra_> but we know that [22:14] <ToyKeeper> Not sure if it's a fluke or not, but this is also the first time in months I've seen mtp not show the SD card and its contents multiple times. [22:14] <ogra_> nice [22:16] <alecu> ToyKeeper: hi! can you check if the app store shows empty for you too? we suspect something is wrong with our servers. [22:16] <ogra_> alecu, popey saw that + [22:17] <ogra_> (while nobody on the same immage in the meeting he showed it could reproduce) [22:17] <ToyKeeper> alecu: Yes, it seems to be empty. [22:17] <ToyKeeper> Way to go, you broke the internet? [22:17] <alecu> ogra_: hmmm.... so it might be only some of the servers [22:17] <pmcgowan> searching finds apps though [22:17] <alecu> pmcgowan: good point [22:17] <ogra_> alecu, well, i can it repro now as well [22:18] <ogra_> alecu, i couldnt 5h ago when popey showed it to us [22:18] <alecu> ogra_: so, it seems the store front is broken, and it has propagated to the other servers too [22:18] <ToyKeeper> Search works, as pmcgowan found. [22:18] <ogra_> yeap [22:19] <alecu> great, I'm pinging the server guys, hopefully there's somebody around still [22:20] <ToyKeeper> Click updates seem to work too. (at least, the updates tool finds new revs) [22:21] <ogra_> oh [22:22] <ToyKeeper> Hmm, scratch that news about no duplicated inodes. That bug is still present. [22:22] <ogra_> jfunk, it just strikes me that a new music app was approved today ... the new one might need re-testing too [22:22] <dobey> yeah, it's just the departments/hilights in the store that seems to be broken [22:22] * ogra_ forgot about the app store [22:22] <popey> yeah, broken here too [22:23] <ogra_> jfunk, it will be in the 160 build [22:23] <ogra_> brendand, ^^^can we make sure music gets some extra love tomorrow ? [22:23] <pmcgowan> ogra_, oh why did that land during lockdown? [22:24] <ogra_> pmcgowan, the bug was approved ... coordination issue [22:24] <ogra_> sorry, i think that was my fault [22:24] <brendand> ogra_, oopsie [22:24] <pmcgowan> ogra_, first one of the year [22:24] <brendand> ogra_, seems like we left the freezer door open these few days :P [22:25] <ogra_> heh, yeah [22:25] <jfunk> ogra_: can you add that to the email for me [22:25] <jfunk> brendand: can you let the team know [22:25] <ogra_> jfunk, indeed [22:25] <brendand> no biggie - as long as we don't get hit by another regression [22:27] <ogra_> well, iits a completely new app ... cant have regressions only new bugs :P [22:28] <pmcgowan> cyphermox, so when the server reports that read error, why is it restarted [22:28] <alecu> ogra_: can you confirm it was 5 hours ago that popey found the problem, and not something like three? (there was a change server side three hours ago) [22:28] <popey> alecu: it was 17:05 UTC [22:28] <ToyKeeper> MTP looks good. [22:28] <ogra_> yay [22:29] <alecu> popey: great, thanks. [22:29] <ogra_> cyphermox, land it !! [22:29] <popey> alecu: what I saw was text under icons, but no icons [22:29] <dobey> popey: ok, that was probably a separate issue [22:29] <popey> k [22:29] <alecu> popey: ah.... that sounds like a different issue. Right now we are not seeing any results at all. [22:30] <dobey> no icons == unity8 failed to load the icons for some reason [22:30] <ToyKeeper> So, new build and then we'll continue the regression suite. [22:30] <popey> alecu: yes, this is not the same thing [22:30] <pmcgowan> ToyKeeper, can you check your log [22:30] <ogra_> ToyKeeper, yeah, take a break while we build it :) [22:30] <pmcgowan> ogra_, one sec [22:30] <dobey> no results at all == omgwtf :) [22:31] <alecu> popey: thanks for pointing it out [22:31] <pmcgowan> ogra_, question here it seems it is continually trying to restart when there is no connection so the phone never suspends [22:31] <ogra_> pmcgowan, the server is restarted because there is an issue with the USB communication (the core issue we need to fix) [22:31] <ToyKeeper> pmcgowan: Lots and lots of retries in the log. [22:32] <pmcgowan> so it continues to respawn until the usb is connected? [22:32] <ogra_> yes [22:32] <pmcgowan> but the phone will never sleep then [22:32] <ogra_> it should be constantly running [22:32] <ogra_> why is that ? [22:32] <pmcgowan> I am asking [22:32] <ogra_> a userspace app shouldnt be able to keep the phone up [22:33] <ogra_> not that way at least [22:33] <pmcgowan> hmm [22:33] <ogra_> you might lose more cycles due to the log writing but thats all [22:33] <ToyKeeper> pmcgowan: However, the retries paused for about 2 minutes at a time, starting about 5 minutes after the phone turned its screen off. The pauses were intermittent though; sometimes it just kept retrying. [22:33] <pmcgowan> we wake up every 5 mins for push to check things [22:35] <ToyKeeper> So, do we proceed or do we wait on a proper fix instead of the band-aid we just tested? [22:35] <ogra_> yeah, it isnt the preocess that wakes up the device [22:35] <ogra_> it just participates [22:36] <ogra_> (which is what i meant by "lose some cycles for log writing) [22:36] <ogra_> ToyKeeper, that might take a few days [22:37] <ogra_> and rolling back would bring us back actual mtp crashes ... [22:37] <ogra_> i think thats the best compromise atm [22:38] <pmcgowan> ogra_, yeah its ok but the push thing makes it worse, and I am not clear why its more frequent than every 5 mins here [22:39] <alecu> popey: ToyKeeper: ogra_: pmcgowan: the store seems to have returned to normal now, thanks for the help diagnosing this. [22:43] <popey> alecu: so it has, well done! :D [22:44] <alecu> what I did was just pinging the right people :P [22:44] <pmcgowan> ogra_, any idea what else is setting a 5 min wakeup timer [22:44] <ogra_> pmcgowan, nope [22:45] <ogra_> pmcgowan, how do you verify that btw ? you are aware that adb wont let the dveice sleep, right ? [22:45] <pmcgowan> ogra_, yes, looking at the log while it was disconnected [22:45] <pmcgowan> there are clearly two 5 min timers [22:45] <pmcgowan> one matches push client [22:46] <ogra_> there is cron once per hour ... not sure what other bits run on a 5min cadence though [22:47] * ogra_ hugs cyphermox [22:49] * ogra_ thinks ubuntu-touch-session will start glowing at some point at that speed of rebuilds [22:52] <pmcgowan> ogra_, its only on the krillin, mako is fine just push wakeups [22:52] <pmcgowan> dunno [22:53] <ogra_> pmcgowan, well, then i blame the custom tarball or device tarball [22:53] <pmcgowan> possible, will file a bug in case [22:53] <ogra_> either something in the android buold on krillin or some scope [22:55] <cwayne> scope shouldnt have the ability to do that even if it wanted to [22:57] <ogra_> liar :P [22:57] <ogra_> ogra@styx:~/Devel$ rmadison mtp|grep 14.09 [22:57] <ogra_> mtp | 0.0.4+15.04.20141104~rtm-0ubuntu1 | ubuntu-rtm/14.09/universe | source [22:57] <ogra_> mtp | 0.0.4+15.04.20141113-0ubuntu1 | ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed/universe | source [22:57] <ogra_> ogra@styx:~/Devel$ [22:57] <ogra_> (i meant the bot, not you cwayne ) [22:58] <pmcgowan> cwayne, maybe see if you have similar https://bugs.launchpad.net/barajas/+bug/1392517 [22:58] <ubot5> Error: launchpad bug 1392517 not found [22:59] <pmcgowan> yeah I know [22:59] <cwayne> in the midle of a flash, will check when its done [23:11] <ogra_> image build triggered [23:13] <imgbot> === trainguards: RTM IMAGE 160 building (started: 20141113 23:15) === [23:36] * ogra_ twiddles thumbs watching https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu-rtm/14.09/ubuntu-touch/ |