2014/08/04/#kubuntu.txt

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[08:56] <obert> hello, is there a more contrast theme for kde?
[09:03] <valorie> obert: loads of themes at kde-look.org
[09:03] <valorie> at least I think it's a .org
[09:04] <obert> mhmh i cannot read the apps name in the bottom apps bar :p
[09:05] <obert> you damn hawks
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[09:07] <obert> still unsure if it is about my glasses, or the monitor or my eyes itself
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[11:02] <Walex> jussi: OpenVPN? IPSec?
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:19] <mohamed> list pass
[11:20] <BluesKaj> mohamed, put that command in the server text, not the channel
[11:54] <Naphatul> isn't dpm supposed to be enable on 3.13 kernel? my gpu is at 74c just at the desktop
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[12:19] <guss77> Guys, I'm having some problems setting up kwin rules. I have a special window that I want to be always on top and on all desktops, but when I set the rules for that then it sets up so it can't have windows below it (like a panel)
[12:20] <guss77> (which is a shame because its a really small window and now it takes up all the top of the screen)
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[13:01] <ShalokShalom> hi there
[13:02] <ShalokShalom> not a single one is aviailable in the repos, just why please ?
[13:02] <ShalokShalom> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279773.0
[13:02] <ShalokShalom> any recommentation for a finance trading software ?
[13:03] <ikonia> normally provided by 3rd party repos
[13:03] <ShalokShalom> ah
[13:03] <ShalokShalom> how to activate them please ?
[13:04] <iamwhoiam> 1for these kind of applications, probably you need to go to the respective site and see if they have an ubuntu or  debian-based package
[13:04] <ShalokShalom> ok thanks
[13:18] <peter___> which software for audio recording ? (live radio stream with cantata)
[13:21] <lordievader> peter___: You could use Audacity.
[13:21] <peter___> ok
[13:21] <peter___> just press on record ?
[13:22] <lordievader> peter___: I have no idea what you are trying to record, but for most cases yes.
[13:22] <peter___>  (live radio stream with cantata)
[13:22] <lordievader> peter___: You mean you want to record what goes to your speakers?
[13:23] <peter___> yes
[13:23] <lordievader> peter___: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171287/how-to-pass-record-audio-output-as-an-input-device
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[14:18] <dbrom> i am trying to combine pdf docs with cat using > or >> is that correct
[14:21] <shadeslayer> dbrom: I doubt it
[14:21] <shadeslayer> dbrom: PDF probably has markers for beginning and ends, which might confuse pdf readers
[14:21] <shadeslayer> there are tools to do this btw
[14:21] <shadeslayer> pdfscript or sth
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[15:38] <Torededer> total noob for asking this but it says there is a new update for kubuntu and i dont know how to get it. Help me Please
[15:42] <BluesKaj> Torededer, open the terminal, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:42] <Torededer> k thx BluesKaj
[15:44] <soee> BluesKaj: should he be reported about available update sthrough updates manager ?
[15:44] <soee> *notifier
[15:47] <BluesKaj> soee, well, I think that's what is happening, the notifier is telling him about available updates, but he's been here for quite a few days now and it's time he got his feet wet in the terminal IMO
[16:31] <dmoyne> lordievader: hello if I am not mistaken you tried to help me the other day to find the reason of a no sound situation on both my computers after migration from 13.10 to 14.04
[16:31] <lordievader> dmoyne: Yeah, I remember something like that. Whats up?
[16:32] <dmoyne> lordievader: The situation is excatly like before: always no sound
[16:33] <bostjan_> t
[16:33] <dmoyne> lordievader: do I have to reinstall kubuntu 14.04 to solve the problem or is there any hope in evoiding this
[16:33] <lordievader> dmoyne: Reloading alsa was the workaround right?
[16:34] <BluesKaj> dmoyne, do you have pulseaudio installed, I've forgotten
[16:36] <dmoyne> lordievader: 2 actions :  modprobe snd_hda_intel and sudo alsa force-reload
[16:36] <kalib> Hello guys. I´m having trouble trying to use authentication (proxy). When using my browser (firefox) I can set my proxy: proxy.domain.com.br with port 3128. Fine, when I try to run google.com, firefox asks me for my user and password (proxy). Works fine.. BUT...
[16:37] <kalib> when trying to run the update manager for softwares.. or apt-get.. my proxy doesn´t work.
[16:37] <kalib> Already tried to run:
[16:37] <kalib> export http_proxy=http:\\user:password@proxy.domain.com.br:3128/
[16:37] <kalib> the same for https and ftp
[16:37] <kalib> but it still not working from console..
[16:37] <kalib> I can´t even ping google through terminal.
[16:38] <BluesKaj> dmoyne, alsa force-reload isn't always effective
[16:41] <dmoyne> lordievader: unfortunatly not as this time it no more works (I have just done it)!
[16:42] <lordievader> dmoyne: Hmm, it worked in a live session of Trusty right?
[16:43] <BluesKaj> kalib, http://askubuntu.com/questions/158557/setting-proxy-from-terminal
[16:45] <dmoyne> ordievader: yes it did and I collected the sound cards I was expecting, but I could not reinstall Skype on this live Trusty which is another problem apparently
[16:46] <lordievader> dmoyne: Then I think the easiest is to reinstall, indeed.
[16:48] <dmoyne> lordievader: is Skype supposed to be compatible not 64 bits version I presume
[16:48] <lordievader> dmoyne: Last time I checked it ran fine on 64bit os.
[16:50] <dmoyne> lordievader: you mean on Trusty 64 bits but which version and where to get it
[16:50] <lordievader> dmoyne: Not sure if I tried it on Trusty. However Skype only has a 32bit version available, but like I said last time I checked it worked fine.
[16:52] <dmoyne> lordievader: I put the question because this is be the reason for me to reinstall Kubuntu 14.04 as soon as possible
[16:53] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Do you happen to use Skype + Trusty(64bit)?
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[16:53] <BluesKaj> lordievader, no
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[16:55] <lordievader> Hmm, too bad. Well dmoyne, I suppose it'll work. And else you know how to find us ;)
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[16:57] <kalib> BluesKaj, I´ll check it.
[16:58] <dmoyne>  lordievader: when I tried to install it on Live CD test I found different sources but none could be properly installed. If at least I could know what you recomand
[16:58] <kalib> BluesKaj, I tried that.. but, as I need user + password for proxy.. I was trying like this: export http_proxy=http://user:pass@proxy.domain.com.br:3128/
[16:58] <kalib> also tried: export http_proxy="http://user:pass@proxy.domain.com.br:3128/"
[16:58] <kalib> also tried: export http_proxy='http://user:pass@proxy.domain.com.br:3128/'
[17:00] <BluesKaj> kalib, why a proxy for kubuntu updates anyway?
[17:02] <kalib> well, as my network needs a proxy to navigate.. I need to authenticate on it to run my updates.
[17:02] <kalib> as without it I can´t even ping or run apt-get update
[17:03] <kalib> on firefox, I can navigate as I did configure my proxy.. so when I try to run a site, it asks me for my user and password for my prioxy.
[17:05] <kalib> BluesKaj, so, I´m kind of lost right now.
[17:06] <shadeslayer> kalib: you're probably missing -E with sudo
[17:06] <shadeslayer> you want : sudo -E http_proxy="voila" apt-get update
[17:06] <BluesKaj> kalib, would a vpn work for you or are you on a large area network like a worplace office or university ?
[17:06] <kalib> BluesKaj,workplace
[17:06] <kalib> shadeslayer, -E ? didn´t know about it..
[17:06] <kalib> so..
[17:07] <shadeslayer> yes, sudo wipes env now
[17:07] <shadeslayer> so http_proxy is lost when running apt-get update
[17:07] <kalib> sudo -E http_proxy=http://user:pass@proxy.domain.com.br:3128/ apt-get update
[17:07] <kalib> ?
[17:07] <BluesKaj> kalib, listen to shadeslayer, he's very knowlegable
[17:07] <shadeslayer> kalib: yes
[17:07] <kalib> let me try..
[17:07] <shadeslayer> kalib: might want to wrap the string in quotes
[17:08] <shadeslayer> if it doesn't work
[17:09] <kalib> still not working..
[17:09] <kalib> as I said, I tried to use the export..
[17:09] <kalib> so I could really see my proxy with: echo $http_proxy
[17:09] <kalib> and, yet.. I couldn´t even ping
[17:09] <shadeslayer> no clue, you can try #ubuntu as well
[17:10] <shadeslayer> but I'm uncertain why it wouldn't work
[17:10] <kalib> already did it. :/
[17:10] <kalib> something is really strange..
[17:11] <kalib> can´t understand what´s going on?
[17:16] <kalib> how can the proxy work on firefox, but not on console even running export http_proxy... ... ... :/
[17:17] <|xk05|> you know what would be handy? when apt asks you if you want to continue [Y/n]? you could just type in the name of suggested packages you want along with the predicate
[17:19] <kalib> but it doesn´t even asks me that..
[17:19] <kalib> remember, I´m running apt-get update
[17:19] <kalib> update doesn´t asks us for anything..
[17:19] <kalib> |xk05|, that´s sad.. :p
[17:20] <|xk05|> why? wouldnt it be handy?
[17:20] <|xk05|> probably wouldnt be hard to do with a shell script
[17:21] <BluesKaj> update only lines up the packages to be upgraded
[17:22] <|xk05|> like, you know, '...continue [Y/n]?', and you type, 'Y, and give me the -dev, too, then'
[17:22] <|xk05|> or, you know, /something/
[17:23] <shadeslayer> why not just pass it to apt-get install ?
[17:23] <|xk05|> because you may not know what the suggested packages are going to be
[17:25] <BluesKaj> suggested packages are sometimes not available unless you have the full list of repos other than ppas
[17:25] <|xk05|> true
[17:34] <kalib> but that´s not the case.. I´m not getting proxy working..
[17:34] <kalib> even for ping..
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[18:30] <CHR0N0S> Could somebody please help me I'm having a problem with correct shutdown in kubuntu 14.04?
[18:34] <BluesKaj> CHR0N0S, sudo halt
[18:35] <CHR0N0S> BluesKaj: Do I do that in terminal?
[18:35] <BluesKaj> CHR0N0S,yes
[18:36] <CHR0N0S> BluesKaj: I am somewhat of a newbie when it comes to nix's!
[18:36] <BluesKaj> CHR0N0S, no problem , have you updated and upgraded since installing 14.04?
[18:36] <CHR0N0S> BluesKaj: Thanks will try as you suggest!
[18:37] <lordievader> sudo poweroff
[18:37] <lordievader> Or just click around in the menu's ;)
[18:38] <CHR0N0S> BluesKaj: Yes I have done all the recommended updates not sure about updates!
[18:38] <BluesKaj> CHR0N0S, did you try right clicking on the desktop and choosing leave?
[18:38] <CHR0N0S> BluesKaj: Yes I have done all the recommended updates not sure about upgrades!
[18:39] <CHR0N0S> BluesKaj: no not tried that either.
[18:39] <CHR0N0S> BluesKaj: Thanks will try as you suggest and get back to you!
[18:40] <BluesKaj> updates don't install any upgraded packages, only the apt-get upgrade and dist upgrade will do that
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[19:09] <CHR0N0S> BluesKaj: I have tried what you and lordievader said to do but still about the same only difference is in the numbers it reports.
[19:16] <lordievader> CHR0N0S: What do you mean with the numbers it reports?
[19:20] <CHR0N0S> lordievader: I think it is same problem that is being discussed at askubuntu.com/questions/461646/shutdown-hangs-for-5-minutes-on-kubuntu-14-04
[19:22] <lordievader> CHR0N0S: Do you use that modem-manager?
[19:23] <CHR0N0S> lordievader: I am not sure whether I use it or not ?
[19:24] <CHR0N0S> lordievader: I am very much a newbie with linux!
[19:26] <CHR0N0S> lordievader: I do use a bluetooth usb dongle and I also have a usb connected wifi dongle!
[19:27] <lordievader> CHR0N0S: But not a 3g/4g modem?
[19:27] <CHR0N0S> lordievader: no
[19:27] <lordievader> Then you can remove it, as suggessted in the link you gave.
[19:28] <CHR0N0S> lordievader: If I can figure out how to do so!
[19:30] <lordievader> CHR0N0S: Probably: sudo apt-get remove modemmanager
[19:30] <lordievader> After running that run "sudo service modemmanager status" to confirm that it is gone.
[19:31] <CHR0N0S> lordievader: ah so! Thanks very much will try this and see what happens!
[19:33] <CHR0N0S> lordievader: Removing modemmanager (1.0.0-2ubuntu1) ...
[19:33] <CHR0N0S> modemmanager stop/waiting
[19:33] <CHR0N0S> Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1) ...
[19:33] <lordievader> CHR0N0S: Also see #11 if you do need modemmanager: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/+bug/1070647/comments/11
[19:33] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1070647 in modemmanager (Ubuntu) "modem-manager causes slow shutdown/reboot" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[19:33] <lordievader> !paste | CHR0N0S
[19:33] <ubottu> CHR0N0S: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[19:34] <CHR0N0S> sorry
[19:37] <CHR0N0S> lordievader: Thanks ever so much for your assistance will try to power down now and see if it worked or not?
[19:46] <HelpNeeded> hello?
[19:47] <lordievader> o/
[19:48] <HelpNeeded> i created a live disc with kubuntu and i want to restore my windows files
[19:48] <HelpNeeded> how can i acces my files?
[19:49] <lordievader> HelpNeeded: Mount the ntfs partition. What happened to them?
[19:49] <HelpNeeded> i can't acces them anymore
[19:49] <HelpNeeded> corrupt windows
[19:49] <lordievader> Corrupt how?
[19:50] <HelpNeeded> i cant start in safe mode, and i cant
[19:50] <HelpNeeded> i cant start in safe mode, and the pc is stuck in acer erecovery management
[19:51] <lordievader> HelpNeeded: What happened? Power outage?
[19:51] <HelpNeeded> BSOD
[19:52] <lordievader> HelpNeeded: Hmm, anyhow like I said mount the partition and copy them to a backup drive or something.
[19:53] <HelpNeeded> how can i mount it ?
[19:54] <lordievader> HelpNeeded: Open Dolphin and click on your Windows partition on the left hand side.
[19:55] <HelpNeeded> and then just copy paste to a backup drive?
[19:59] <lordievader> HelpNeeded: Exactly.
[19:59] <HelpNeeded> thank you lord
[20:32] <CHR0N0S> lordievader: I've tried all that you have told me but without any success. This is what I now get when shutting down...http://pastebin.com/ibykPyL5
[20:32] <CHR0N0S> lordievader: I'm at a loss as to what to do next?
[20:35] <lordievader> CHR0N0S: Does it hang on that?
[20:36] <CHR0N0S> lordievader: I guess so, it sets there for quite sometime before I get disgusted and press and hold the power button.
[20:36] <lordievader> CHR0N0S: What do you use to poweroff?
[20:38] <CHR0N0S> lordievader: I've tried all of the previous mentioned methods but none work so I usually just use menu leave and shutdown...
[20:38] <CHR0N0S> lordievader: then when it goes as far as I've described I usually hold down power button till system shuts down!
[20:39] <lordievader> Do you see this behaviour on both shutdown and reboot?
[20:40] <CHR0N0S> lordievader: not sure about reboot as I rarely ever just reboot?
[20:40] <CHR0N0S> lordievader: I can try it just to find out if you like?
[20:41] <lordievader> CHR0N0S: Rather switch to a tty, turn off lightdm and then try to reboot.
[20:42] <CHR0N0S> lordievader: huh? sorry!
[20:43] <lordievader> CHR0N0S: "ctrl + alt + f1" to switch to tty1, there login with your credentials. Run "sudo service lightdm stop" to stop lightdm and finally run "sudo reboot" to reboot.
[20:43] <CHR0N0S> lordievader: oh okay will try and get back to you!
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[20:52] <chr0n0s> lordievader: is there a log saved somewhere of the start up processes? As far as I could tell it rebooted normally but all went by so quick as I couldn't  read everything that was printed out as it came up, saw something that stated fail at the end?
[20:52] <lordievader> chr0n0s: It was the shutdown process that was the problem, wasn't it?
[20:53] <chr0n0s> lordievader: happened when system was coming back up?
[20:53] <lordievader> Now I'm confused...
[20:54] <chr0n0s> lordievader: lol so am I I guess it may have been the shutdown but not sure.
[20:54] <lordievader> chr0n0s: Could you describe the current problem you are facing again?
[20:55] <chr0n0s> incorrect shut down action, system hangs on shut down.
[20:55] <lordievader> chr0n0s: Right, so that is what I thought. On your reboot, did it hang on in the shutdown process?
[20:56] <hyper_ch> hmmm, a few days ago baloo was finally removable from the kde install... now I did just apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and it wants to install baloo again... why?
[20:56] <chr0n0s> lordievader: no, only after the system started to come back up?
[20:56] <lordievader> hyper_ch: It is probably pulled in as a dependency: apt-cache rdepends <package>
[20:57] <hyper_ch> lordievader: why was baloo made again a dependency
[20:57] <lordievader> chr0n0s: So the shutdown problem is gone? (Worked around more as)
[20:58] <lordievader> hyper_ch: I don't know, ask the devels ;)
[20:58] <hyper_ch> that's why I'm in here
[20:58] <lordievader> hyper_ch: The devels hangout in #kubuntu-devel ;) this channel is for user support.
[20:59] <chr0n0s> lordievader: I am confused now I just did <lordievader> CHR0N0S: "ctrl + alt + f1" to switch to tty1, there login with your credentials. Run "sudo service lightdm stop" to stop lightdm and finally run "sudo reboot" to reboot.
[20:59] <lordievader> chr0n0s: Uhu, and you said it doesn't hang on the shutdown process ;)
[21:01] <chr0n0s> lordievader: when I performed the above mentioned actions it rebboted but when it started back up it started printing on screen all sorts of stuff that went by so fast I couldn't read all but did catch a fail at the end of something?
[21:01] <chr0n0s> rebooted, even
[21:01] <lordievader> Meh upstart services failing happens quite often, nothing to worry about.
[21:02] <lordievader> chr0n0s: But judging from your responses it went down like normal.
[21:02] <chr0n0s> lordievader: so what I did has corrected the shutdown problems?
[21:03] <lordievader> chr0n0s: No, it was a workaround. However it seems to something graphical. However for me it is time to go to bed.
[21:03] <chr0n0s> lordievader: Is this a permanent fix or something I'll have to do each time I shutdown the machine?
[21:03] <lordievader> Hope someone else can assist you in debugging this issue.
[21:03] <lordievader> chr0n0s: No, it was a way of getting intel.
[21:04] <chr0n0s> Oh I see, ok well goodnight then and thanks for your assistance!
[21:04] <lordievader> chr0n0s: No problem, good luck.
[21:04] <chr0n0s> thanks
[21:44] <pgnome> kubunt 5 plasma doesn't download
[21:44] <pgnome> yet, I can get a different unknown kde-based debian distro instead lol
[21:45] <pgnome> kubuntu has really fallen
[21:46] <pgnome> kubuntu website almost order you to download via torrent yet there's no seeds at all
[21:46] <pgnome> yet, for some strange distro called neptune, I could start downloading immediately!
[21:57] <byte> n8
[22:04] <soee__> pgnome: you want to download plasma5 torrent ?
[22:25] <shadeslayer> pgnome: hm, which one are you trying to download?
[22:26] <shadeslayer> the ISO is currently broken anyway, need to get that fixed tomorrow
[22:28] <shadeslayer> unless you download the one from 27th July
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