2014/02/25/#kubuntu.txt

[01:47] <sicko> Hello
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[02:25] <Sombracier> hi?
[03:10] <Sombracier> hi everyone! im wondering if someone could help me with a lil problem?
[03:11] <Sombracier> no one?
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[07:06] <s-2014> hello. can anybody help me please? my apt-get is being stopped halfway through (http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=iFk1jnES). what can I do to fix it?
[07:07] <s-2014> the same with aptitude and some other console software
[07:09] <Addle> s-2014: Are you starting it in the background with & ? Maybe it's dying trying to read input from you.
[07:09] <s-2014> ah, sorry, i think i've found the problem. it must be cpulimit
[07:09] <s-2014> thank you all
[07:09] <Addle> Good stuff :)
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[08:23] <rohan> can someone using eclipse and kubuntu help me fix the colour in the tooltip? it is completely unreadable for me: http://i.imgur.com/Xdd38dz.png
[08:35] <Promethes> hi, why mozilla firefox (or kde itself) does not remembers window size and maximization state after i close and reopen?
[08:40] <nlsthzn> I have seen this sometimes after the first time I use an application.  After a restart it normally works and keeps the size... not sure why
[08:41] <valorie> in general, you have to quit (control-q) to have state saved
[08:42] <valorie> although you can also choose (in systemsettings) whether or not you want sessions save
[08:46] <Promethes> mine not, ctrl+q does not saves window sizes
[08:51] <hateball> Promethes: you could also force it to start with a certain size, if you always want it maximized for instance
[08:51] <hateball> (I do this for some troublesome apps)
[08:53] <Promethes> i found that this is a bug that was reported in 2000  (14 years ago) and kde devs are not willing to fix it because they don't want to
[08:53] <Promethes> this is sad
[08:54] <valorie> ?
[08:54] <valorie> that doesn't sound right
[08:55] <valorie> bug #?
[09:00] <Promethes> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
[09:00] <ubottu> KDE bug 15329 in general "Placement policy 'Remember'" [Wishlist,Resolved: wontfix]
[09:03] <apachelogger> Promethes: last comment gives an accurate technical reason for why this cannot be solved at this time.
[09:05] <valorie> Promethes: if Martin says it can't be done now, i would believe him
[09:06] <valorie> if he's able to do it once Wayland is fully implemented, that's another story
[09:07] <valorie> and if apachelogger says that it is technically accurate, it is technically accurate
[09:21] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:21] <Walex> there is a session manager protocol too, and if clients don't implement it...
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[12:07] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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[12:55] <Takeshi> hi everybody
[12:57] <lordievader> Hey Takeshi, how are you?
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[15:10] <rcw2> whats a good screencapture software for kubuntu?  i want to make 5 minute videos but small file size
[15:10] <rcw2> !screencast | rcw2
[15:10] <ubottu> rcw2, please see my private message
[15:14] <koontz> Hey guys. Got a fresh install of 13.10 on a new laptop I picked up. Never had an issue like this before so figured I would ask here cause I'm not finding any solutions anywhere else.
[15:16] <koontz> Basically, I am running chrome and things like flash, etc work. But what doesn't is java. I tried icedtead, openjdk6 and 7, and also oracle java.  I have copied the .so files for the plugins to the directory all the documentation I find says to copy it to
[15:16] <koontz> So, any ideas on troubleshooting etc?
[15:17] <genii> rcw2: I actually usually just use VLC and stream the desktop to a file.
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[15:18] <rcw2> genii, interesting
[15:19] <BluesKaj> koontz, is kubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[15:19] <rcw2> i think i may have done that a year ago, and it was a lot of setup
[15:19] <koontz> Hmm, I wonder if the issue is the dir youy should plugins is is different between chrome and chromium. Does anyone know?  The stuff I read all mentions /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins
[15:19] <koontz> BluesKaj: of course
[15:19] <BluesKaj> ok, well gotta ask
[15:19] <koontz> Im wondering if the chrome plugin dir might be something like /usr/lib/chrome/plugins instead
[15:22] <koontz> Ya, looks like the path is different. I am seeing /opt/google/chrome/plugins/  in some other docs
[15:23] <BluesKaj> koontz, there seems to be a problem with chromium-browser not using the pepperflash.so file , however google chrome has it installed by default, whether the correct java plugin is used is another story , but <i'm not having any issues using chrome
[15:23] <koontz> well ya chromium wont use pepper flash unless you kinda force it to
[15:23] <koontz> But im not using chromium, im using chrome. And of course pepperflash is bundled
[15:23] <BluesKaj> koontz, there's aplugin in the repos for it
[15:24] <koontz> ya i know
[15:24] <BluesKaj> should work
[15:24] <koontz> im not worried bout flash, flash works mint
[15:24] <koontz> my issue is java strictly
[15:24] <koontz> which looks to be a case of haviung the wrong dir
[15:24] <koontz> cause the /opt/google/chrome/plugins/ isnt even there
[15:24] <BluesKaj> yes, but maybe chrome has the right java plugin
[15:25] <koontz> huh? chrome doesnt bundle java with it like it does flash
[15:25] <BluesKaj> I'm assuming it does since chrome doesn't have problems with java on my setup
[15:26] <koontz> chrome most definitely does not bundle java, but ok...
[15:27] <koontz> well i fixed it
[15:27] <koontz> i think...
[15:30] <koontz> BluesKaj: so you are running chrome (not chromium), and all you did was install java (openjdk) as part of restricted extras or whatever, and java works? (it shows in chrome://plugins)
[15:33] <BluesKaj> koontz, exactly
[15:33] <koontz> weird, doesnt work that way for me
[15:33] <koontz> it doesnt create any of the common chrome/chromium plugins dirs, nor does it populate them with the plugin obviously
[15:34] <BluesKaj> koontz, /opt/google , but I think you already mentioned that
[15:35] <ni291187> hi, not sure how I did it but I  went to console mode while having an x session. how do I go. ack to graphic mode?
[15:35] <koontz>  ya opt/google/chrome/plugins
[15:35] <koontz> wait.... i just realized i have i386 chrome, obviously that wouldnt work with amd64 java
[15:36] <BluesKaj> ni291187, ctl+alt+f7-8
[15:36] <ni291187> tx it worked
[15:38] <spectre> some one know C Language ??
[15:39] <koontz> now that I got the amd64 build of chrome it worked fine
[15:39] <koontz> I didnt notice google auto gave me the 386 vertsion when I used their site to download and install
[15:40] <koontz> And im using the oracle java (i prefer it for android)
[15:41] <BluesKaj> right
[15:43] <BluesKaj> Firefox doesn't accept the pepperflash plugin so some sites with newer flash players don't work
[15:44] <koontz> Right pepperflash is chromium based browsers only
[15:44] <koontz> I dont like the normal flash plugin on linux because you cant scroll over a flash element
[15:44] <koontz> Ive always found that annoying over the years
[15:45] <BluesKaj> FF linux is deprecated iirc
[15:46] <koontz> pretty much
[15:46] <koontz> besides security updates
[15:46] <koontz> same with android
[15:46] <koontz> I will be a happy man the day flash finally goes away
[15:47] <koontz> I use html5 for almost everything on youtube, which used to be the bulk of my flash usage
[15:47] <BluesKaj> too bad, I do prefer FF for the desktop since it integrates better with the gtk font settings etc, the crome tabs are unreadable on a large monitor even with higher dpi settings
[15:49] <koontz> Hmm aria2c or axel? anyone have any opinions on one might be do the job better than the other, especially for something like apt-fast?
[15:49] <koontz> err, butchered my engrish
[15:51] <genii> !info fatrat
[15:51] <ubottu> fatrat (source: fatrat): multi-protocol download manager, feature rich and extensible via plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0~beta2-0ubuntu6 (saucy), package size 1407 kB, installed size 3132 kB
[15:51] <koontz> ya, not compatible with apt-fast
[15:51] <koontz> thanks though
[15:52] <spectre> how to change my nickname in weechar irc please
[15:52] <koontz> spectre: /nick nickname
[15:52] <koontz> unless you mean in the weechat config, in which case read the documentation or ask in #weechat (where they will likely say the same)
[15:52] <spectre> thank you koontz
[15:53] <koontz> genii: do you know if fatrat has a cli backend?
[15:56] <genii> koontz: A minimal type one, yes. http://fatrat.dolezel.info/doc/contents/cmdline.html
[15:56] <koontz> cool
[15:57] <koontz> then there might be a possibility to use the custom feature in apt-fast to make it work with fatrat, but still I think fatrat is a bit much for something as simple as apt-fast
[16:19] <Tom1> helo
[16:19] <Tom1> hello
[16:20] <lordievader> Hey Tom1
[16:22] <Tom1> hello lordievader
[16:23] <lordievader> How are you doing Tom1?
[16:26] <Tom1> fine , how are you?
[16:27] <lordievader> Tom1: Doing good, learning how to use tmux.
[16:28] <Tom1> good
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[16:43] <Emdolen> hey i need help
[16:43] <Emdolen> i watched a porn where a man was fcking a woman
[16:43] <Emdolen> and the woman kept saying "my dick in your mouth"? wtf?
[16:44] <lordievader> !ops
[16:44] <ubottu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Hobbsee, Tm_T, Nalioth, Riddell, seth, imbrandon, gnomefreak, nixternal, ryanakca, mneptok, PriceChild, tsimpson, jussi, Pici, ikonia, genii, Mamarok, claydoh, maco, seele, Nightrose, JontheEnchidna, rgreening, or txwikinger
[16:45] <genii> Emdolen: That's not appropriate content for this channel.
[16:45] <Emdolen> i watched it on kubuntu live cd tho ^^
[16:45] <genii> Emdolen: Doesn't matter. Not appropriate.
[16:45] <Emdolen> fck on you also
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[17:22] <simsom> Hello Kubuntu
[17:23] <lordievader> Hey simsom
[17:24] <simsom> I'm just new to Kubuntu so cheeking what was this !
[17:25] <lordievader> simsom: Whoo, welcome to the Kubuntu support channel :)
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[17:56] <Affondo> how can I use files .ape with k3b?
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[18:07] <melkor> What program do I use to take pictures with my webcam?
[18:07] <melkor> (something like cheese that doesn't require installing the gnome suite)
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[18:21] <melkor> kamoso
[18:22] <genii> melkor: I usually just open the camera in VLC then rightclick ...Video...Take snapshot
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[21:36] <koontz> Hey guys, I'm back. I've deiced to put kubuntu onto my new laptop, ASUS G750W (GW750-DWP71 to be exact). Problem is being its my first UEFI machine, and while I have worked on a uefi before it had the ability to disable uefi and use a legacy mode. This laptop does not have that
[21:38] <bprompt> iirc the issue in linux is if you're dual-booting with windows7 or 8, and if you're using secureboot option fro uefi
[21:38] <koontz> So when I go to install and do amnual partition it says I need a special boot partition (not a /boot. but i forget the wording) so I create one of those biosgrub Boot Reserve space partitioons or whatever they are called, and I assume I install grub to that, but it fails
[21:38] <koontz> ya, im not using secureboot
[21:38] <koontz> that i know for sure
[21:38] <koontz> its been disabled since i bought the thing
[21:39] <koontz> So even when I try and use guided partitoning it still fails when it tries to install grub
[21:39] <koontz> And its using one of the grubbios partitions, and thats what it fails to install the bootloader to
[21:40] <koontz> So I neecd to know the correct scheme here to get it to work. Ive seen a few others successfully get it installed on the machine, but they dont say how. And the documentation really makes zero sense to me. I have plenty of computer and linhux experiences (decades) but none with uefi
[21:40] <koontz> All I know is its uefi, doesnt have legacy mode, and secureboot is off
[21:41] <bprompt> right
[21:42] <koontz> And grub fails to install when i install it to the reserve boot partition (biosgrub) partition
[21:42] <bprompt> are you dual-booting with windows?
[21:43] <koontz> Anbd obviously when I install it to the MBR like a normal bootloader, the uefi doesnt see that
[21:43] <koontz> Currently yes. But i am gonna wipe windows.
[21:43] <koontz> But i dont see how windows is effecting anything, because secureboot is off
[21:44] <koontz> And its not like i have a legacy mode.....
[21:44] <bprompt> right.... but I could be mistaken, but I'd think your partitions aren't GPT'ed  and thus the UEFI partitioning bit isn't going well
[21:45] <koontz> could yolu elaborate
[21:45] <bprompt> hmm do you know what GPT is?
[21:45] <koontz> it installs, the data is there, etc. just cant get grub to install
[21:46] <koontz> vaguely, i havent messed with gpt or uefi in awhile
[21:46] <bprompt> well   GPT and UEFI go almost always hand in hand
[21:46] <koontz> i had a desktop that had uefi and it came with gpt partitioning originally
[21:46] <koontz> ok
[21:46] <koontz> ya they generally do
[21:47] <bprompt> GPT is the newer BIOS per se, the newest NVRAM chipset POST set
[21:48] <bprompt> so depending on the firmware in that machine, which is fairly new, a couple of years old, it may or may not allow UEFI-mbr boot
[21:50] <koontz> I dont mind wiping windows, i was gonna do it anyway. But i dont really understand why it would stop grub from installing. So i feel like I dont have the instructions correct as far as installing grub on a uefi machine
[21:50] <koontz> I see some things saying to use a seperate fat32 partition, then I see using this biosgrub partition thing
[21:50] <koontz> Which is an option in the dropdown duriung the partitioning
[21:50] <koontz> well its a pretty new machine
[21:50] <koontz> Gen4 intel
[21:50] <koontz> ya it doesnt allow mbr boot
[21:50] <koontz> it wont recognize a bootloader in the mbr
[21:50] <koontz> the ubuntu installer even warns of that
[21:51] <bprompt> right..... but my guess is that the UEFI bit may try to use the GPT'ed partitions
[21:52] <koontz> ok so?
[21:52] <koontz> I mean wouldnt the partitions im creating be gpt
[21:52] <koontz> if the p[artition table was originally gpt, and im just adding partitoions, they should be gpt
[21:53]  * koontz is confused
[21:53] <bprompt> so... wipe everything, including partitions, make a new partition to install to, a GPT one
[21:53] <koontz> and as far as installing grub?
[21:53] <bprompt> hmm
[21:54] <bprompt> well... I'm thinking grub maybe stalling, thinking you had MBR partitions
[21:54] <koontz> nah
[21:54] <koontz> it will install to the mbr, though that wont work
[21:54] <koontz> but it fails if i install it to that special partition it tells me to make
[21:55] <bprompt> tried the fellows at #ubuntu yet?
[21:55] <koontz> nope
[21:55] <bprompt> give them a whirl I'd think :)
[21:55] <koontz> ewh...
[21:56] <bprompt> hehe
[21:56] <koontz> maybe when i get more desperate :P
[21:56] <bprompt> is the same OS you know, and some of them are rather helpful
[21:56] <koontz> oh i know
[21:56] <koontz> its not like i havent been there
[21:57] <koontz> the channel just tends to be very busy and easily gives me a headache
[21:57] <bprompt> well... that's workable with a good irc client
[21:58] <bprompt> I mean, i'm usually in hectic channels often, and I'd use an irc client that does hightlights or colors each nick
[21:58] <koontz> no offense to anyone here, but its mainly the population there that tends to give me a headache :P
[21:59] <koontz> Whenever I ask questions that are a bit more in depth, they never get answered.
[22:00] <bprompt> understood
[22:00] <koontz> im doing a bit more googling first
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[23:54] <mtxr> hi