2014/02/05/#ubuntu-desktop.txt

[05:26] <pitti> Good morning
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[09:16] <robert_ancell> larsu, ping
[09:17] <cryptex> hi
[09:20] <cryptex> help me about rebuild own distro from ubuntu :p
[09:20] <larsu> robert_ancell: pong?!
[09:21] <robert_ancell> larsu, I was just checking if you were a Russian submarine
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[09:48] <seb128> attente_, Laney, gsettings reset org.compiz.core:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/core/ active-plugins
[10:14] <GunnarHj> robert_ancell: Hello Robert
[10:14] <robert_ancell> GunnarHj, hello
[10:14] <GunnarHj> robert_ancell: Do you plan a new upload of lightdm soon? (I noticed that the latest debian/ changes were not included in the latest upload.)
[10:15] <robert_ancell> which changes?
[10:16] <GunnarHj> robert_ancell: The guest session related changes in lp:lightdm...
[10:16] <robert_ancell> GunnarHj, was there a MP for that?
[10:17] <GunnarHj> robert_ancell: Not sure what you mean, now. You approved 3 MPs against lp:lightdm. Those are what I'm talking about.
[10:18] <robert_ancell> GunnarHj, the debian/ dir in the archive contains changes not in lp:lightdm - I'm merging them back now
[10:18] <robert_ancell> but yes, I can do a release today if there are pending changes
[10:19] <GunnarHj> robert_ancell: That would be great, since then the translatable strings in the guest session startup dialog would finally make it to the PO files.
[10:20] <GunnarHj> robert_ancell: Are you in Europe, btw, or just working late? ;-)
[10:20] <robert_ancell> GunnarHj, in London this week
[10:20] <GunnarHj> robert_ancell: Ok.
[10:59] <mpt> robert_ancell, <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemMenu?action=diff&rev2=12&rev1=11>
[11:00] <robert_ancell> mpt, ta
[11:30] <mlankhorst> Sweetshark: is your password LO4everXXX
[11:41]  * apw notes that login no longer works on u
[11:41] <apw> u
[11:41] <apw> ubuntu-desktop
[11:41] <apw> you just get a background and nothing else, one can start native X apps against :0 and they appear, but unity et al is all absent
[11:47] <apw> seems compiz is not connecting to X any more
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[12:37] <seb128> tkamppeter, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration
[12:42] <rsalveti> mlankhorst: hey, so what is blocking the proposed-migration of xorg-server now? just the rest of the xorg modules that you uploaded today?
[12:42] <mlankhorst> rsalveti: tegra and tegra3, almost done, they're about to be removed :)
[12:43] <mlankhorst> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt
[12:43] <rsalveti> mlankhorst: awesome then
[12:43] <rsalveti>     * armhf: nvidia-tegra, nvidia-tegra3
[12:43] <rsalveti> right
[12:43] <mlankhorst> would've been ready an hour ago but I forgot that we still had those
[12:43] <mlankhorst> seb128: ^
[12:49] <seb128> mlankhorst, what's the srcname
[12:49] <mlankhorst> nvidia-graphics-drivers-tegra
[12:49] <mlankhorst> nvidia-graphics-drivers-tegra3
[12:50] <seb128> mlankhorst, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-tegra doesn't exists
[12:50] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-tegra3 exists
[12:51] <mlankhorst> seb128: erm the former link works
[12:51] <xnox> hm, i launch nm-applet and it doesn't seem to come up in ubiquity-dm mode. Are there any special tricks i need to do for it to come up in ubiquity, same way it comes up in lightdm?
[12:52] <seb128> mlankhorst, hum, launchpad timeout it seems
[12:52] <xnox> oh, nm-applet is not present in lightdm/unity-greeter either =(
[12:52] <xnox> horum.
[12:52] <seb128> xnox, today's kernel update eat my wlan0
[12:52] <seb128> xnox, do you still have a wireless?
[12:52] <xnox> seb128: it's a wired connection in a VM.
[12:53] <xnox> seb128: and on my desktop.
[12:53] <seb128> k, so another issue
[12:53] <seb128> Laney had probelsm
[12:53] <Laney> I have the same thing
[12:53] <seb128> problems even
[12:53] <Laney> well, similar symptoms anyway
[12:53] <seb128> he said he would fix it
[12:53] <Laney> LIES
[12:53] <xnox> seb128: and i see nm-applet in unity7-desktop session, but not lightdm nor VM nor ubiquity.
[12:53] <xnox> Laney: is there a profile declaration for nm-applet?
[12:53] <seb128> no
[12:53] <xnox> similar to the rest of the indicators in /usr/share/unity/indicators/ ?
[12:53] <seb128> it's an indicator-application client
[12:53] <xnox> oh, do i need that runnning as well?
[12:54] <seb128> if you want to see it
[12:54] <seb128> but that should already work in lightdm
[12:55] <xnox> seb128: yeah! i have working in ubiquity now! Totes amazeballs =) thanks a lot.
[12:56] <seb128> xnox, yw!
[12:56] <seb128> mlankhorst, done
[12:56] <mlankhorst> thanks
[12:56] <xnox> seb128: i think i'm missing only the ubiquity custom keyboard indicator, which i guess should be ported on top of indicator-application.
[12:56] <xnox> anyway, good for now.
[12:56] <mlankhorst> rsalveti: nothing is blocking the transition of xorg 1.15 now, xorg 1.15 for everybody!
[12:56] <rsalveti> \o/
[12:57]  * xnox disables auto-upgrades
[12:57] <mlankhorst> says the person that broke wifi for everyone
[12:57] <xnox> mlankhorst: did i?! =)
[12:57]  * xnox do no radio stuff
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[13:23] <gatox> hi, is there anyone having problems with the trusty image too?? i just reinstall it, and it seems it doesn't have unity, nothing works
[13:25] <seb128> gatox, there was a protobuf buggy version this morning which is leading to compiz failing to start
[13:25] <seb128> gatox, well, some compiz plugins
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[13:25] <seb128> gatox, upgrade, the fixed version just got published
[13:25] <gatox> seb128, ohhhhhhh that might be it
[13:26] <gatox> seb128, thanks! trying
[13:27] <seb128> gatox, yw
[13:27] <seb128> robert_ancell, is bug #1276572 the issue you fixed earlier this week?
[13:27] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1276572 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome control center crashes after switching between lock/display and security/privacy thru breadcrumb" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1276572
[13:27] <robert_ancell> seb128, yes
[13:29] <seb128> robert_ancell, thanks
[13:29] <seb128> closed it as duplicate
[13:31] <xnox> larsu: not all width bugs solved in trusty with ubiquity =/ it's still wider than usual =(
[13:31] <xnox> larsu: i wonder if i can walk it with autopilot to see what is pushing the size so big.
[13:34] <gatox> seb128, that fix it, thanks!!!!
[13:34] <seb128> gatox, yw!
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[14:18] <seb128> Laney, robert_ancell: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707533#c7
[14:18] <ubot2`> Gnome bug 707533 in gnome-session "gnome-session 3.9.91 segfaults with" [Critical,Resolved: fixed]
[14:18] <Laney> http://www.utobeer.co.uk/the-rake/on-the-bar-today/
[14:19] <seb128> Laney, robert_ancell: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-session/commit/?h=gnome-3-10&id=705699b2799a3434d1a8f35c9a92868a5057f73e
[14:24] <kenvandine> hey desktop!
[14:24] <seb128> kenvandine, KEN!
[14:24] <seb128> we miss you!
[14:24] <kenvandine> :)
[14:25] <seb128> how is Orlando?
[14:25] <seb128> Laney, robert_ancell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1259562
[14:25] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1259562 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Old guest users pollute accountsservice" [Low,Triaged]
[14:25] <kenvandine> nice... but i don't have a working laptop..... if only there was a desktop guy here to help :)
[14:26] <kenvandine> i didn't update today... but this morning lightdm doesn't start...
[14:26]  * kenvandine is download updates... but over a very slow pipe, network sucks here
[14:26] <seb128> kenvandine, there was a buggy protobuf update this morning, what version do you have?
[14:26] <seb128> that would make compiz plugins not load
[14:27] <seb128> but that should break lightdm
[14:27] <kenvandine> that would explain dholbach's problem...
[14:27] <kenvandine> i didn't update since yesterday morning
[14:27] <seb128> so it's probably a local hack of yours...
[14:27] <kenvandine> no errors in any of the logs
[14:27] <seb128> did you try rebooting?
[14:27] <kenvandine> yup
[14:28] <seb128> what happens exactly?
[14:28] <seb128> sudo status lightdm?
[14:28] <kenvandine> libprotobuf8 2.5.0-5ubuntu2
[14:28] <kenvandine> says it's running
[14:28] <kenvandine> just black screen
[14:28] <kenvandine> X isn't running
[14:29] <kenvandine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6879316/
[14:29] <seb128> kenvandine, can you copy /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log and greeter...log somewhere?
[14:29] <kenvandine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6879320/
[14:29] <kenvandine> that first one was a tail... not the whole thing
[14:30] <seb128> kenvandine, I think you have the buggy protobuf
[14:30] <kenvandine> 2.5.0-5ubuntu2
[14:30] <seb128> kenvandine, ignore that
[14:30] <kenvandine> libprotobuf8 right?
[14:30] <seb128> gyeah
[14:31] <kenvandine> i tried autologin
[14:31] <kenvandine> and still doesn't work
[14:31] <kenvandine> very weird
[14:31] <seb128> kenvandine, can you scp the x-0.log x-0-greeter.log lightdm.log log somewhere?
[14:31] <seb128> or pastebin, u1
[14:31] <seb128> whatever works for oyu
[14:31] <kenvandine> did you see my pastebin links?
[14:32] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, need whole lightdm.log
[14:32] <seb128> yeah, but not enough in that
[14:32] <kenvandine> the x-0-greeter.log one was the whole one
[14:32] <kenvandine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6879364/
[14:32] <seb128> x-0.log ?
[14:32] <kenvandine> that's lightdm.log
[14:32] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, the greeter log is generally not useful
[14:32] <kenvandine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6879367/
[14:32] <kenvandine> that's x-0.log
[14:33] <kenvandine> i used startx to get something up :)
[14:33] <kenvandine> so X works fine
[14:33] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log has more detail
[14:33] <seb128> or .old
[14:33] <kenvandine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6879370/
[14:34] <kenvandine> that's the .old one... should have been from lightdm
[14:35] <mlankhorst> seb128: so with everything breaking today, maybe you can slip in the default language pack change?
[14:35] <seb128> french!
[14:35] <seb128> kenvandine, weird
[14:37] <kenvandine> interesting thing about dholbach's issue was unity/compiz worked when he logged in from the lubuntu greeter
[14:37] <kenvandine> lightdm was working for him...
[14:37] <kenvandine> but he installed lubuntu-desktop
[14:38] <kenvandine> to get a non-unity session to get working
[14:38] <ogra_> crazy guy
[14:38] <kenvandine> but... he logged in from whatever greeter lubuntu uses
[14:38] <kenvandine> and got a working unity desktop...
[14:38] <kenvandine> but it wouldn't work coming from lightdm
[14:39] <kenvandine> ok, i just updated a few packages... including lightdm... let me try restarting again
[14:39] <kenvandine> brb... i hope
[14:40] <ChrisTownsend> attente_: Hi, did you see my comment in your Unity MP about the AP test failure?
[14:41] <attente_> ChrisTownsend, yes
[14:41] <attente_> i'm refactoring things to simplify the code
[14:41] <attente_> but i realize that i didn't do a proper teardown
[14:42] <ChrisTownsend> attente_: Ok, sounds good.  Ping me when you're ready for us to re-review.
[14:42] <attente_> ChrisTownsend, thanks :)
[14:42] <ChrisTownsend> attente_: np!
[14:43] <kenvandine> no joy...
[14:51] <kenvandine> seb128, robert_ancell: any ideas?
[14:52] <rickspencer3> seb128, et al ... I'm wondering why the desktop breakage that people felt today didn't get caught in -proposed, is there something we should do to enhance that system?
[14:52] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, where is the full lightdm log?
[14:52] <kenvandine> seb128, has the protobuf problem been fixed?
[14:52] <kenvandine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6879364/
[14:52] <ogra_> rickspencer3, it was the same issue i explained to you before
[14:53] <rickspencer3> ogra_, right, I understand that
[14:53] <rickspencer3> but I was wondering if we could add some autopacakge tests or something
[14:53] <seb128> rickspencer3, hey, because we don't run unity7 autopilot tests in britney
[14:53] <rickspencer3> ogra_, because the desktop does not have the same buffer
[14:53] <ogra_> you couldnt
[14:53] <seb128> not sure if we could do that through autopkgtest
[14:53] <ogra_> its the same issue, would require the same test setup i explained
[14:54] <ogra_> we would need image tests for desktop
[14:54] <ogra_> for each package that enters
[14:54] <seb128> kenvandine, the protobuf issue, yes
[14:54] <ogra_> britney/autopkgtest only checks insiallability
[14:54] <kenvandine> seb128, cool, folks here are asking about it
[14:54] <ogra_> but not functionality
[14:55] <rickspencer3> ogra_, I think some autopackage tests are functional
[14:55] <rickspencer3> depends on the package
[14:55] <ogra_> rickspencer3, perferably we should have such tests for everything, regardless if it is desktop, server or phone
[14:55] <ogra_> autopackage doesnt help
[14:55] <ogra_> you need autopilot
[14:55] <ogra_> against a running vm
[14:55] <ogra_> (or hardware)
[14:55] <rickspencer3> ogra_, I think I understand the situation, actually
[14:56] <ogra_> k
[14:56] <rickspencer3> I think seb128's answer was sufficient, I don't know if we'll invest in running unity 7 tests out of proposed, I think the 3d requirements will make that hardish
[15:03] <kenvandine> robert_ancell, i switched to gdm... working for now :)
[15:11] <seb128> kenvandine, that's a workaround!
[15:11] <seb128> kenvandine, do you have unity-greeter installed?
[15:16] <Laney> just symlink it
[15:23] <larsu> xnox: hm :/ let me know if you need any help
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[15:42] <kenvandine> seb128, yes i do have unity-greeter installed
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[15:45] <seb128> kenvandine, weird, what did you do to it then!
[15:47] <ogra_> he probably tried switching it to french ... i heard bad things can happen then
[15:47] <ogra_> :)
[15:48] <seb128> ogra_, you could get slapped with an old trout
[15:48] <kenvandine> ogra_, i would never even try switching to french... i know better :)
[15:48] <ogra_> is it friday yet ?
[15:48] <ogra_> :)
[15:49]  * seb128 slaps kenvandine with an old trout
[15:49] <ogra_> yummy, sushi
[15:49] <Laney> around a bit
[15:49]  * kenvandine likes old trout
[15:49] <kenvandine> smelly :)
[15:49]  * Laney Khaled Mardam-Bey
[16:02] <seb128> robert_ancell, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html
[16:02] <seb128> robert_ancell, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt
[16:07] <robert_ancell> seb128, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grilo/0.2.7-1ubuntu1
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[16:12] <marga> At what time is vorlon usually around? (I know it's still very early in the west coast)
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[16:13] <ogra_> marga, vorlon is slangasek in here :)
[16:13] <marga> ah, right, thanks...
[16:13] <ogra_> marga, and you should find him in #ubuntu-devel
[16:14] <seb128> Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-system-settings/updates-in-main/+merge/203719
[16:17] <seb128> marga, he should be around in the next hour or so I guess
[16:18] <seb128> marga, easier to just ask him your question and see when he replied
[16:18] <seb128> replies
[16:18] <marga> seb128, great, thanks.
[16:18] <seb128> yw
[16:18] <marga> seb128, I know, but this is not "a question", I want his opinion and I need to interact with him :)
[16:21] <seb128> marga, right, I meant it's easier to just do a "slangasek: hey, do you have some time to talk about <topic>" and see when he replies :-)
[16:26] <GunnarHj> Laney: Thanks for the help with the freedesktop patch(es)!
[16:26] <Laney> np
[16:27] <GunnarHj> Laney: Is that what you usually needs to do to get things accepted there?
[16:28] <Laney> GunnarHj: it can help
[16:28] <Laney> since people often won't want to go to the extra effort to get something into shape
[16:29] <GunnarHj> Laney: Yeah ... maybe I'd better learn the git stuff some day.
[16:29] <Laney> it's useful for upstreaming things
[16:31] <seb128> robert_ancell,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1276684
[16:31] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1276684 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm isn't showing a greeter" [Undecided,New]
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[16:40] <attente_> ChrisTownsend, hi
[16:40] <attente_> ChrisTownsend, i pushed the changes to the tests
[16:41] <attente_> it does a proper teardown now, but maybe there's some loose ends from the old tests, probably best to start a new unity session before trying again
[16:45] <ChrisTownsend> attente_: Ok, I'll check on it.
[16:51] <seb128> Sweetshark, new libcmis has one test failing on powerpc (in both Debian and Ubuntu), can you have a look upstream if that's a known issue?
[17:00] <seb128> didrocks, sil2100, is ubuntu-themes under CI train or still old landing?
[17:01] <tkamppeter> xnox, hi
[17:02] <xnox> tkamppeter: hello!
[17:11] <seb128> kenvandine, I'm undupping that bug, indicator-datetime being buggy should take the greeter down this way
[17:11] <tkamppeter> xnox, should a bug get reported about Upstart socket activation not working?
[17:12] <tkamppeter> xnox, would you do it?
[17:12] <kenvandine> seb128, ok
[17:12] <xnox> tkamppeter: let me do it.
[17:13] <tkamppeter> xnox, thanks.
[17:38] <xnox> tkamppeter: filed as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1276713
[17:38] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1276713 in cups (Ubuntu) "upstart socket activation for cups" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:59] <GunnarHj> Is bug 1256585 a "won't fix"?
[17:59] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1256585 in accountsservice (Ubuntu) "adduser does not update System Settings "Accounts" or the session login screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1256585
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[18:23] <kenvandine> seb128, do you know why evolution-data-server depends on the uoa or goa plugin?  could that be a recommends instead?
[18:24] <seb128> kenvandine, oh, funny that you ask, I asked mbarnes about that split yesterday and I'm going to drop it, it's done in a buggy way/doesn't make sense
[18:24] <seb128> kenvandine, what issue are you trying to resolve? gtk on the touch image?
[18:25] <kenvandine> oh... cool :)
[18:25] <kenvandine> not gtk
[18:25] <kenvandine> we don't want the uoa plugin installed on the touch image
[18:25] <kenvandine> since it'll be using syncevolution with it's uoa plugin
[18:25] <kenvandine> so we want eds without uoa or goa
[18:25] <tkamppeter> xnox, thanks.
[18:25] <ogra_> kenvandine, doesnt click use uoa ?
[18:26] <kenvandine> click?
[18:26] <seb128> kenvandine, oh, I was going to merge those back in e-d-s
[18:26] <seb128> kenvandine, needs an u1 account for the click store
[18:26] <ogra_> yeah, installing a click package requires you to log in to an ubuntu account
[18:26] <kenvandine> ogra_, yeah... that isn't eds
[18:26] <seb128> ogra_, that's nothing to do with evolution-data-server
[18:26] <kenvandine> seb128, we just don't want the service files installed
[18:27] <ogra_> no, but uoa will be on the image regardless what you do with the deps
[18:27] <kenvandine> so they don't pollute the UI in uss-online-accounts
[18:27] <kenvandine> having the service files, when you have a google account it shows 3 entries for EDS
[18:27] <kenvandine> but in fact none of those are going to be used for anything
[18:28] <kenvandine> syncevolution will provide the UOA service for eds
[18:28] <seb128> kenvandine, why not? do they create issue?
[18:29] <kenvandine> seb128, so i'd like to keep the split if we can drop that depends to a recommends
[18:29] <seb128> oh
[18:29] <kenvandine> ugly
[18:29] <kenvandine> and useless on the device :)
[18:29] <seb128> kenvandine, sorry, I was on another win and didn't see your explanations before typing my question
[18:29] <seb128> kenvandine, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/eds.log
[18:30] <seb128> kenvandine, ok, we can keep the split, e-d-s-online-accounts or something that includes both uoa and goa
[18:30] <seb128> kenvandine, then maybe a -gtk as well
[18:31] <kenvandine> that would be fine
[18:31] <seb128> kenvandine, can you read the log I just pointed? in case you have somebody in mind that could help on the certificate ui thing?
[18:31] <kenvandine> we just don't have a need for online access to stuff for eds since we really want data to be synced
[18:31] <kenvandine> i read it
[18:32] <kenvandine> i think a -gtk would be best
[18:32] <kenvandine> then if we ever get a qt one we could have a -qt
[18:32] <seb128> ok
[18:32] <seb128> thanks
[18:32] <kenvandine> thank you :)
[18:32] <seb128> I'm going to do those changes tomorrow
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[18:32] <seb128> yw
[18:32] <kenvandine> excellent
[18:32] <kenvandine> you rock
[18:32] <seb128> kenvandine, btw do you know if anyone could help with Laney's question (earlier on #ubuntu-app-devel)
[18:33] <kenvandine> i didn't see it
[18:33] <kenvandine> what was it?
[18:33] <seb128> kenvandine, is there a "standard" effect in the toolkit we could use to indicate something got clicked
[18:33] <seb128> kenvandine, we need it for u-s-s
[18:33] <seb128> kenvandine, to give feedback a panel got clicked
[18:33] <kenvandine> "something"? any type of component?
[18:33] <kenvandine> ah
[18:33] <kenvandine> the grid items
[18:34] <kenvandine> i'll ask the right people here
[18:35] <kenvandine> seb128, is it really just to show something will happen in case it's a little slow?
[18:36] <seb128> kenvandine, right, pat and others gave feedback about that
[18:36] <seb128> like they would click on update 3 times
[18:36] <seb128> without knowing if that worked
[18:36] <kenvandine> ok
[18:37]  * kenvandine goes to find someone :)
[18:37] <seb128> kenvandine, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemSettings?action=diff&rev2=54&rev1=53
[18:37] <seb128> kenvandine, that's the design feedback
[18:37] <seb128> " 1. When you choose an item, the item should highlight until its screen appears."
[18:37] <seb128> kenvandine, I don't know if we have a standard "highlight" effect for qml components though
[18:37] <kenvandine> there is for a listview
[18:38] <seb128> right, our is a grid of custom components
[18:38] <kenvandine> well... you can define a component to use as the highlight
[18:38] <seb128> so I guess there is no builtin there
[18:38] <kenvandine> so we'd need to do that ourself
[18:38] <seb128> do you know of any example?
[18:38] <seb128> just for inspiration
[18:38] <kenvandine> and it still leaves the treatment completely up to you
[18:39] <kenvandine> http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-listview.html
[18:39] <kenvandine> look at hightlight* on that page
[18:39] <seb128> we don't use a listview
[18:39] <kenvandine> i know... that's inspiration though :)
[18:39] <kenvandine> you set the component to use when an item is highlighted
[18:40] <kenvandine> and you can define how they change
[18:40] <kenvandine> which we don't need
[18:40] <kenvandine> just define our grid item to have a highlight component
[18:40] <kenvandine> and that component really would just change opacity, color, etc
[18:41] <Laney> I guess you'd have to handle the activation manually
[18:41] <kenvandine> seb128, http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-listview.html#highlight-prop
[18:42] <kenvandine> oh... we lost him
[18:42] <kenvandine> :)
[18:42] <kenvandine> yeah
[18:42] <kenvandine> seb128, http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-listview.html#highlight-prop
[18:42] <Laney> doesn't sound too nice
[18:42] <seb128> kenvandine, sorry, guest session switch screwed my session, I read what you wrote on Laney's screen
[18:43] <kenvandine> :)
[18:43] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks
[18:43]  * seb128 misses having a real toolkit doing those stuff for you :p
[18:43] <kenvandine> Laney, kind of a pain to implement ourselves...
[18:43] <kenvandine> but would be good to do something similar to how the listview does it
[18:44] <kenvandine> you could just change one property when it gets the event
[18:44] <kenvandine> and add a new signal to change that property back when the plugin loads
[18:45] <kenvandine> just tough to figure out the right place to add that signal showing it's ready
[18:45] <kenvandine> maybe add an activating state
[18:45] <kenvandine> and toggle that state
[18:45] <Laney> I'll think about it
[18:45] <Laney> unless you want to work on it at the sprint with the sdk guys there ;-)
[18:45] <kenvandine> stuff to ponder over a beer :)
[18:46] <kenvandine> ha... i'm a bit deep in other stuff right now :)
[18:46] <kenvandine> much of which depends on getting a bunch of tedg's UAL branches actually landed...
[18:47] <kenvandine> tedg, you love making me depend on you
[18:47] <kenvandine> tedg, i think i'll add a Depends:tedg  to my personal control file
[19:01] <seb128> night
[19:25] <Mirv> not sleeping yet.. maybe soon
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[20:12] <xclaesse> anyone has seen that message when running "sudo apt-get update" on Trusty? "no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4831, leaking memory"
[20:13] <sarnold> xclaesse: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/1274680
[20:13] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1274680 in sudo (Ubuntu) "sudo no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparam.c:4831, leaking memory" [Undecided,New]
[20:14] <xclaesse> sarnold, ok thanks !
[20:14] <xclaesse> sarnold, I though it was apt-get, but indeed that's related to sudo actually
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