2012/11/20/#lubuntu.txt

[01:15] <uabn93> hello
[01:17] <uabn93> If anyone isnt busy, im getting installer problems where the window closes after i finish the password/user phase
[01:17] <uabn93> lubuntu 12.10
[01:39] <d1gital> Is it possible to disable the minimize/restore animation?
[01:40] <phiscribe> d1gital, yes, give me a moment to remember where
[01:41] <d1gital> d'oh! found it.
[01:41] <phiscribe> k
[01:41] <d1gital> obconf -> Appearance->Animate iconify and restore
[01:43] <uabn93> hi im getting an "illegal instruction" error on the ubiquity installer for lubuntu 12.10. am i partitioning wrong?
[01:44] <xnox> uabn93: switch to tty1, if possible and file a bug with `ubuntu-bug ubiquity` this should attach all relevant logs & print a url to go to complete the bug filing.
[01:48] <uabn93> xnox: im redoing the install with a password i dont care about exposing
[05:33] <scigod> when using lubuntu live cd, i logout and try to login again, but i  input a wrong user name, how can i go back to change user name?
[05:35] <Unit193> If I remember correctly, the username is ubuntu and there is no password.
[05:37] <scigod> Username should be lubuntu and password is empty. The problem is if i input a wrong user name, i can not change it.
[05:49] <Unit193> It uses lightdm, which should have an "other" user, if you aren't at that, press escape.
[05:52] <scigod> I was at that. Pressed escape but nothing happened.
[05:57] <bioterror> honestly I dont see much point in logging out from LiveCD
[09:49] <ladkiwi> Hello
[09:50] <ladkiwi> Each time I open a new folder with pcmanfm it opens in a new tab of an existing pcmanfm window. Even if I am on another desktop. Is there a way to change this behavior ?
[13:27] <dyd> i need to get some parameters from a udev event (usb insertion) that triggers a bash script. I managed to find that $ID_VENDOR has the value of ATTRS{vendor}, now i need to know how i can get the values of ATTRS{model}, ATTRS{idVendor}, ATTRS{idProduct}, ATTRS{bcdDevice}, ATTRS{serial}. Anyone knows how i can get them in my bash script?
[17:54] <leszek> hi
[18:18] <danielsp> Hi
[18:55] <Amgine> Query: is there any way to get rid of chromium without getting rid of lubuntu-desktop?
[18:56] <holstein> if its just for the space, i wouldnt worry about it too much
[18:56] <Unit193> Nope, but it doesn't matter as lubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage.
[18:58] <Amgine> Okay; mostly I just don't want chromium on my box.
[18:59] <Amgine> Thanks!
[19:40] <Dante> Hi all. Does someone know why I could not install Lubuntu 12.10 alongside Windos XP?
[19:41] <Dante> There never was such option during installation. And as a consequence of that, installation erased whole windows with all data in it. Which leads to another question: is there any way to get data back?
[19:49] <uabn93> the documentation says "The default "Desktop" installer requires 384-800 MB of RAM"
[19:49] <uabn93> does this mean you cant use more than that?
[19:49] <uabn93> Im confused
[19:50] <uabn93> My system has 1GB of ram right now.
[19:51] <bioterror> Dante, you can try photorec or something to get random files
[19:51] <bioterror> most of the stuff is probably lost
[19:51] <Unit193> uabn93: No, just that you need that much.
[19:52] <uabn93> Unit193: ok. I filed a bug report because I cant get 12.10 to install.
[19:52] <uabn93> just trying to solve my problem
[19:53] <Dante> Bioterror, that I am afraid about... But how there was no such option to "install alongside Windows". Only first option had warning that all data will be lost. I chose second option, and then it all was gone.
[19:53] <bioterror> quite difficult to say afterwards
[19:56] <Dante> For example this page (this is for older Lubuntu) shows such option: http://launchintolinux.wordpress.com/2012/04/04/installing-lubuntu-a-step-by-step-guide-to-dual-booting/
[19:56] <Dante> Somehow I feel that installation should issue some warnings prior to erasing whole system!
[19:57] <uabn93> how do i troubleshoot installation problems. the installer keeps crashing on me
[19:57] <bioterror> yes, I think people should do all the partition manually by theirselves with fdisk or cfdisk
[19:58] <bioterror> partitioning
[20:01] <Dante> maybe they should. And I should have made some backups prior installation...
[20:02] <bioterror> think positive, more space for lubuntu!
[20:03] <Unit193> uabn93: Use alternate, then.
[20:06] <uabn93> Unit193: ill try that. thanks
[20:09] <Dante> More space yes, but I am sorry for my girlfriend who lost bunch of photos of other files because of my stupidity, and somewhat unintuitive installer..!
[20:09] <bioterror> try photorec
[20:09] <bioterror> !photorec
[20:09] <bioterror> !filerecovery
[20:10] <Unit193> !recovery
[20:10] <ubottu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[20:10] <bioterror> stupid ubottu
[20:10] <Unit193> Meh.
[20:10] <bioterror> someone should teach it more smarter
[20:10] <bioterror> !google ubuntu file recovery
[20:10] <ubottu> I have no google command, use http://www.google.com/
[20:10] <bioterror> :D
[20:10] <bioterror> !altavista
[20:10] <prpl> having trouble with onboard onscreen keyboard. It opens as a blank black dialogue box
[20:17] <bioterror> prpl, every other app works without a prob?
[20:17] <prpl> pretty much...
[20:18] <prpl> I just added it through the lubuntu software center
[20:19] <holstein> prpl: open a terminal and launch it from there see if you see any helpful error output
[20:20] <Dante___> How should I use photorec. Run it on some boot cd? Something like this: http://ubuntu-rescue-remix.org/
[20:23] <prpl> holstein: onboard adds itself to the panel but the terminal say:(python:21462): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type _OB_WM_ACTION_UNDECORATE
[20:24] <prpl> I decorated it...so I could see it better but it's still a blank screen
[20:24] <prpl> I can undecorate through onboard-preferences
[20:25] <bioterror> Dante___, I would insert usb hdd or something like that and salvage files to there
[20:26] <prpl> no keyboard shows up inside it's provided 2"x4" box
[20:28] <Dante___> But can I run the Lubuntu itself from laptops hard drive?
[20:29] <prpl> what about running parted magic from a live cd...It has photorec
[20:30] <bioterror> if you want
[20:30] <bioterror> what ever suits your needs
[20:31] <prpl> still neede an alternate storade
[20:31] <prpl> storage*
[20:31] <Dante___> I have external USB hard drive, which I have been using on Windows
[20:32] <prpl> sounds like alternate storage
[20:32] <Dante___> I should only know which software to use, and where and how to run it. I am quite new to linux world....
[20:33] <Dante___> Especially cryptic command line is not obvious to me.
[20:33] <prpl> Dante__did you delete files, folder or what ?
[20:34] <Dante___> Installed Lubuntu on Windows XP laptop
[20:34] <Dante___> and it never warned me that it will delete everything
[20:34] <Dante___> i wanted to have both
[20:34] <prpl> It took outb XP?
[20:36] <Dante___> yes
[20:36] <Dante___> no dual boot option, no trace of old windows files.. :(
[20:37] <prpl> So lubuntu occupies the whole drive ?
[20:37] <Dante___> yes
[20:37] <prpl> Ever run the terminal ?
[20:37] <Dante___> its 80 gb drive
[20:37] <prpl> oops
[20:37] <Dante___> with windows on it it had some 40 gb free
[20:37] <Dante___> now, after installation there is some 70 gb free
[20:37] <prpl> free but not on a seperate partition
[20:38] <prpl> windows was on one partition with 40 gb free
[20:38] <Dante___> yes, Lubuntu took over the whole drive!
[20:38] <Dante___> exactly
[20:38] <prpl> ok...have you done anything on the new install yet ?
[20:39] <prpl> are youn using it now ?
[20:39] <Dante___> but (stupid me!) I supposed that installer will handle it. I suppose Ubuntu can be "easily" installed alongside windows.
[20:39] <Dante___> I did nothing after i noticed all is gone.
[20:39] <prpl> Is that the selection you made ??
[20:40] <prpl> install alongside?
[20:40] <Dante___> actually there was no such option available
[20:40] <Dante___> first was to delete windows
[20:40] <prpl> thye first option was close to that
[20:40] <Dante___> second was something with SVN(?!?!)
[20:40] <prpl> or one of the options
[20:41] <Dante___> and third was "so something else"
[20:41] <holstein> phororec is a great tool.. i use it from the ultimate boot cd live.. but you can install testdisk
[20:41] <prpl> doesnt really matter at ythis point how you got here...gotta  get testdisk or photorec
[20:42] <Dante___> so I was surprised NOT to see alongside option, and took the second option
[20:42] <Dante___> no, it really does not.
[20:42] <Dante___> but yet I am surprised how it never asked me any confirmation to delete everything
[20:43] <Dante___> is there some bug or something, or am I just plain stupid?!
[20:43] <prpl> You gotta move slow through that part of the installation so you dont do exactly taht
[20:43] <prpl> that*
[20:44] <prpl> I think he needs testdisk at this point
[20:44] <prpl> It will let you dig down to previous installations and rewrite them
[20:44] <prpl> ie windows
[20:45] <Dante___> testdisk, what is that.. have to google a little bit...
[20:47] <Dante___> is it possible that testdisk can do something although whole installation has been written on the drive?
[20:47] <prpl> it comes on the parted magic repair restore all around helper tool cd 250 plus mb download
[20:48] <prpl> Dante__yes it can help
[20:48] <prpl> It can see the old windows installation
[20:49] <prpl> I cant guarantee it of course but it save d me once big time
[20:50] <bioterror> more you wonder, more data you might loose
[20:50] <Dante___> that laptop is now off, I am trying to build strategy to salvage it now
[20:51] <bioterror> you put livecd in
[20:51] <bioterror> like TRK
[20:51] <bioterror> you insert usb drive
[20:51] <bioterror> you mount it
[20:51] <Dante___> Ok, I have to make parted magic cd, and run testdisk from there?
[20:51] <bioterror> and you use the software you want to copy the data to this usb storage
[20:52] <prpl> yep
[20:52] <bioterror> as you probably understand that you can copy the stuff back to this over writter drive
[20:52] <bioterror> you cant
[20:52] <bioterror> and written
[20:52] <prpl> boot from the live cd and possibly rewrite the windows to the same drive same location
[20:53] <bioterror> or just grab the .jpg and other files from there
[20:53] <prpl> bio...testdisk can rewrite to the same lovation
[20:53] <prpl> location
[20:53] <Dante___> basically i dont care about the windows, only user files it had (photos, documents, etc)
[20:53] <bioterror> I once did data rescue at work
[20:54] <bioterror> never again
[20:54] <prpl> testdisk woill let you see the filoes and you can copy to usb...
[20:54] <prpl> too stressful
[20:54] <bioterror> I accidentally saw that mature ladys naked pictures
[20:54] <prpl> haha....not the stress
[20:55] <prpl> fear of data
[20:56] <Dante___> Fear of data... who knows what I will find...
[20:56] <prpl> the reason I suggest parted magic is because it is a full operating system but is only 250 plus mb to download
[20:57] <prpl> and it has photorec testdisk ...and plenty more
[20:57] <bioterror> TRK <3
[20:57] <Dante___> ok that sounds very good
[20:57] <prpl> whats TRK ?
[20:57] <Dante___> and prob I can mount my ext usb drive there too?
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[20:57] <bioterror> prpl, http://trinityhome.org
[20:58] <Dante___> I was also wondering what is TRK?!
[20:59] <prpl> It is the same as [parted magic ...but different...
[20:59] <Dante___> so it seems
[20:59] <prpl> click the link and download it
[21:00] <Dante___> it seems there is lot of tools available.. how should I sum this up? Parted magic, testdisk and photorec? Or TRK?
[21:00] <Dante___> And what about this http://ubuntu-rescue-remix.org/
[21:00] <prpl> TRK..the link is right above you
[21:01] <Dante___> Thanks, I saw it...
[21:01] <bioterror> TRK has testdisk
[21:01] <bioterror> it also has photorec
[21:02] <prpl> And you can keepit handy for the next foible
[21:02] <Dante___> Ok, they have same software
[21:02] <Dante___> do you know about gddrescue
[21:03] <prpl> not I
[21:03] <bioterror> gddrescue is a GUI thingie for ddrescue
[21:04] <prpl> Once you rescue your stuff you will be standing on street corners presching about how TRK saved your life !
[21:04] <bioterror> or something like that
[21:04] <bioterror> I've used dd_rescue and ddrescue
[21:04] <prpl> or testdisk really
[21:04] <Dante___> i hope that
[21:05] <prpl> never used photorec
[21:05] <Dante___> or maybe i spend some tedious hours in rescue, to find out that there actually was never anything really necessary...
[21:05] <bioterror> maybe
[21:06] <prpl> Rescue the stuff anyway
[21:06] <Dante___> anyhow, I have to try, since it is my girllfriends laptop
[21:07] <Dante___> Ok guys, it is bedtime here, so thank you very much! Tomorrow I will tackle the problem!
[21:07] <prpl> gdluck
[21:07] <bioterror> öitä :D
[21:08] <Dante___> Jahaa, öitä & good night! :)
[21:08] <prpl> nite
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