2012/07/31/#ubuntu-community-team.txt

[00:00] <bkerensa> heh
[00:05] <JoseeAntonioR> mhall119: pong
[00:07] <JoseeAntonioR> mhall119: the site seems to be down
[00:08] <bkerensa> mhall119: the cloud failed ;p
[00:51] <balloons> so close to finish the editing.. everything I tried on quantal failed fyi.. audio/video stuff quantal and me are crash city
[00:51] <balloons> moving files to the precise box.. things seem much more stable.. fingers crossed
[01:13] <MrChrisDruif> It IS a LTS release for a reason, right balloons ?
=== nigelb is now known as nigel-cloud
=== nigelbabu is now known as nigelb
[03:50] <mhall119> JoseeAntonioR: I was wondering if I could use the on air account
[03:50] <JoseeAntonioR> mhall119: for sure! would you mind a pm?
[03:50] <mhall119> JoseeAntonioR: tomorrow?
[03:50] <mhall119> I'm off to bed
[03:50] <JoseeAntonioR> sure :)
[07:57] <bkerensa> gnight
[10:51] <popey> jcastro, can you copy the content over to ubuntuonair.com?
[12:38] <jcastro> popey: yep one moment
[12:41] <jcastro> popey: YGM
[12:43] <popey> jcastro, i messed up dns, changed it earlier, still rippling, sorry
[12:43] <jcastro> k
[12:43] <jcastro> I just sent you the raw html you can paste in easy peasy
[12:43] <popey> ta
[12:44] <popey> jcastro, try http://ubuntuone.com/wp-admin/index.php ?
[12:45] <popey> the content you posted doesn't have the embedded video
[12:45] <jcastro> We couldn't find that page
[12:45] <popey> when?
[12:45] <jcastro> popey: no it's the thing underneath
[12:45] <jcastro> oh, you don't have the embed either?
[12:45] <popey> er
[12:45] <popey> not ubuntuone
[12:45] <popey> heh
[12:45] <jcastro> let me just get you all the html
[12:45] <popey> yeah, pastebin it or something
[12:45] <popey> the dns was messed I only changed it ~4 hours ago
[12:46] <popey> so you wouldn't have been able to get to wp-admin, but can now
[12:47] <jcastro> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1121355/
[12:47] <jcastro> ah, you can chop the bottom bits off
[12:47] <jcastro> 26 and below can be dropped
[12:48] <jcastro> oh, while you are in there, you can also drop the top line
[12:48] <jcastro> the "Next Hangout" part
[12:53] <popey> ok
[12:55] <popey> http://ubuntuonair.com/ look okay?
[12:56] <popey> 85.119.82.80 should be ip in dns
[12:56] <jcastro> slickamundo!
[12:56] <popey> biab
[13:04] <AlanBell> how do you do the slick name overlays?
[13:25] <jcastro> it's an addon
[13:26] <jcastro> lower something-something
[13:26] <jcastro> it's in their little store thing when you do a hangout
[13:27] <AlanBell> lower third, pretty cool
[13:27] <AlanBell> that does make it look a lot more professional
[13:27] <jcastro> yeah
[14:16] <jcastro> mhall119: hey, so the help lens is ready to go
[14:16] <jcastro> it just needs to go into universe
[14:18] <mhall119> cool, has a bug been filed for getting it in?
[14:18] <jcastro> no clue
[14:43] <jcastro> mhall119: ah nice, I didn't even remember we had a mail thread for the lens, <3
[14:59] <jcastro> popey: why does that guy run a linux website if he hates linux?
[14:59] <jcastro> I mean, it could at least be funny like linuxhater
[15:00] <popey> heh
[15:00] <mhall119> what guy?
[15:01] <jcastro> this muktware site
[15:01] <jono> dpm, mhall119 all set?
[15:01] <dpm> jono, yep
[15:01] <jcastro> it's like one minute you suck for not being FSF-compliant, and then the next it's like "Netflix doesn't work, you suck."
[15:01] <mhall119> yup
[15:01] <jcastro> pick one!
[15:02] <mhall119> jcastro: ah,yeah, that site does seem to have some odd split personality
[15:02] <jcastro> popey: it has to be the same guy, he's the only guy who thinks it's normal to sync your phone/tablet via a cable in 2012.
[15:02] <popey> heh
[15:02] <jono> dpm, mhall119 https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/85670cd7ee5775c75beaa80c0065eb3189c5b494?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[17:00] <jono> balloons, can we talk when I drive out to my meeting in about an hour?
[17:01] <JoseeAntonioR> mhall119: available for a PM?
[17:01] <balloons> jono, sure sure
[17:01] <jono> thanks balloons, I just need to wrap some things up here before I head out
[17:01] <mhall119> JoseeAntonioR: sure
[17:01] <balloons> I'm sapping my upload bandwidth right now
[17:15] <s-fox> hello :)
[17:25] <AlanBell> come and see the Ubuntu UK podcast studio https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/226b753eeff113fc0d04796f28668efdf61ea7f4?authuser=0&hl=en#
[17:31] <jono> balloons, heading out, will call soon
[17:31] <jono> mhall119, jcastro back later
[17:31] <balloons> jono, k..
[17:35] <balloons> wondershaper is awesome :-)
[17:54] <IdleOne> bkerensa: plz2give me instructions on how I get a cool Ubuntu tag for hangouts?
[17:54] <IdleOne> banner* thingy
[17:54] <bkerensa> IdleOne: use Lower Third Hangout
[17:55] <IdleOne> huh?
[17:55] <IdleOne> oh, ok.
[17:56] <IdleOne> where do i get the logo?
[17:58] <bkerensa> IdleOne: for Ubuntu logo you can download it off google images
[17:58] <bkerensa> its cof png
[18:04] <IdleOne> very silly question that was
[18:04] <IdleOne> :)
[19:04] <jcastro> hey bkerensa
[19:04] <jcastro> random question
[19:04] <jcastro> what's up with the sumo stuff?
[19:04] <jcastro> technoviking: ping
[19:04] <jcastro> or philballew
[19:05] <bkerensa> jcastro: Trying to figure out what is preventing it from installing on 12.04
[19:05] <jcastro> ;_;
[19:05] <bkerensa> so far three people have tried and it just is not installing properly
[19:06] <bkerensa> Me, mhall119 and imbrandon (I believe?)
[19:06] <jcastro> WHAT. No CHARM!?!
[19:06] <jcastro> :)
[19:06] <bkerensa> I have a instance spinning up right now so I am going to take another crack at it
[19:06]  * imbrandon looks up
[19:06] <bkerensa> jcastro: one cannot confidently make a charm if they cannot do a install manually first
[19:06] <imbrandon> huh ?
[19:07] <jcastro> bkerensa: have we tried flaming nigelb?
[19:07] <imbrandon> ohh yea, what he said :)
[19:07] <bkerensa> why would we flame nigelb?
[19:07] <jcastro> bkerensa: it would make you feel better I bet?
[19:07] <balloons> This video has been removed because it is too long -- what gives youtube?
[19:09] <philballew> Sumo is pretty cool. I have not seen much movement.
[19:10] <jcastro> hey philballew
[19:10] <philballew> hey jcastro whats up!
[19:10] <jcastro> I am looking for a PHP developer for SSo for the forums
[19:10] <jcastro> http://www.jorgecastro.org/2012/07/31/ubuntu-forums-needs-single-sign-on-again/
[19:10] <marcoceppi> jcastro: I thought that was fixed
[19:10] <jcastro> can we put out a sticky for this?
[19:11] <jcastro> basically we have all the code opened now
[19:11]  * marcoceppi reads
[19:11] <philballew> Ill see if I can do it, and also email my php dev friends.
[19:12] <jcastro> nod
[19:12] <imbrandon> jcastro / marcoceppi : if you dont take it on or need a hand i can help this evening for sure
[19:12] <imbrandon> like in oh +4.5 hours
[19:12] <imbrandon> or so
[19:12] <jcastro> imbrandon: nginx subordinate first pls.
[19:12] <imbrandon> its done
[19:12] <imbrandon> i just need to add a maintainer and resubit
[19:13] <imbrandon> but its on LP
[19:13] <imbrandon> :)
[19:13] <bkerensa> updates on HP Cloud are Sloooooow
[19:13] <imbrandon> bkerensa: use my mirrors
[19:13] <bkerensa> they need mirros like AWS
[19:13] <bkerensa> imbrandon: link?
[19:13] <jcastro> imbrandon: push that badboy, juan is reviewing today
[19:13] <imbrandon> half sec
[19:13] <jcastro> PUSH FAST
[19:13] <imbrandon> jcastro: kk
[19:14] <imbrandon> bkerensa: http://az-1.hpcloud.mirror.websitedevops.com/ubuntu
[19:14] <bkerensa> kk
[19:14] <imbrandon> precise and quantal, all pockets
[19:15] <bkerensa> mhall119: working with sumo dev to try and resolve the 12.04 issues
[19:15] <imbrandon> precise precise-updates precise-backports precise-security , and same thing with quantal, as well as deb and deb-src
[19:17] <bkerensa> jcastro: I found the issue with SUMO... funny enough someone from OSU OSL pointed me to a helpful manual
[19:17] <bkerensa> ;)
[19:17] <bkerensa> well
[19:17] <bkerensa> a workaround
[19:18] <jcastro> can we still blame nigel though?
[19:18] <cjohnston> yes
[19:18] <bkerensa> sure
[19:18] <jcastro> excellent
[19:19] <bkerensa> jcastro: do we know how to get reverse dns with hpcloud?
[19:19] <bkerensa> do they support it yet?
[19:20] <jcastro> huh?
[19:20] <bkerensa> rdns
[19:21] <bkerensa> PTR Records
[19:21] <jcastro> https://community.hpcloud.com/question/462/reverse-dns
[19:21] <jcastro> is the best I can find
[19:21] <jcastro> I didn't know they didn't do reverse dns
[19:22] <bkerensa> yeah thats pretty lame :P
[19:22] <jcastro> is this for sending mail?
[19:22] <bkerensa> yes
[19:22] <imbrandon> ewww
[19:22] <imbrandon> dont
[19:22] <pleia2> jcastro: thanks for that blog post :)
[19:22] <jcastro> do they not have some API or something or some partner to do it?
[19:22] <jcastro> pleia2: which one?
[19:22] <imbrandon> jcastro: yea
[19:23] <jcastro> lol, .25 cents a mail I am sure.
[19:23] <pleia2> jcastro: openid, the poor forums admins are spending huge huge amounts of time fighting spam every day, we really need this upgrade
[19:23] <pleia2> (new spam tools are only in 4.x)
[19:23] <bkerensa> did Canonical not hire a PHP Developer to finish the upgrade?
[19:23] <imbrandon> bkerensa: please please please use like mailchimp or ses or something else ... please :) ( i agree that no rdns is lame, but please dont run your own mailserver )
[19:24] <jcastro> bkerensa: no
[19:24] <bkerensa> bkerensa: SUMO has mailing capabilities
[19:24] <jcastro> our ISD team sort of tried, but PHP/vbulletin isn't really in our bag of tricks.
[19:24] <imbrandon> pleia2: i'm on it this afternoon :)
[19:24] <pleia2> imbrandon: <3
[19:24] <jcastro> he's on it after he submits that charm
[19:24] <jcastro> is what he meant to say. :)
[19:25] <imbrandon> i just deployed it to test a final time then should be back in the queue :)
[19:25] <jcastro> AWWW YEAH, that's how we roll.
[19:25] <imbrandon> jcastro: are you wanting to use it or something ?
[19:25] <jcastro> new charms, new forums, new wiki.
[19:25] <jcastro> running spam relay servers on hp cloud ....
[19:25] <imbrandon> hahaha
[19:25] <jcastro> mostly I want to demo it
[19:25] <imbrandon> ahh,
[19:26] <jcastro> you and marco keeping all the goodies in ~yourname
[19:26] <imbrandon> got two more production sites on juju now, as well as some kick ass jujube things comming today too
[19:26] <jcastro> had to pull our last demo from ~foo .... booo!
[19:26] <bkerensa> jcastro: they would only be spam relays if they were not setup properly
[19:26] <bkerensa> ;p
[19:27] <jcastro> Last time I had to touch a mail server .... hmmm, 2003 I think?
[19:27] <bkerensa> LOL
[19:27] <imbrandon> jcastro: i deploy everything from local: anyhow after spamaps convinced me thats the best way, and just charm getall blah to update the local repo now and then
[19:27] <snap-l> Also, certain mail providers will block misconfigured mail servers
[19:27] <bkerensa> jcastro: and now you let third parties own it and retain it forever
[19:27] <bkerensa> ;)
[19:27] <jcastro> yeah but it doesn't count until it's in the charm store.
[19:27] <snap-l> Comcast is the worst offender for this
[19:27] <jcastro> same reason your program isn't "finished" until it's in the software center, etc.
[19:27] <imbrandon> bkerensa: no there is a major diff between storage and smtp / ses providers
[19:29] <bkerensa> heh
[19:29] <imbrandon> bkerensa: btw http://sendgrid.com/ has a free level and is pretty awesom plus a cool api
[19:30] <imbrandon> and if thats not you cup o tea SES is pretty sweet and cheap too, but for god sakes get into this melinium and dont run a smtp server yourself
[19:31] <imbrandon> but those two plus mailchip i've personally used/use and can say are rocking, depending ont the scope of need
[19:31] <greg-g> wait, I'm confused, just because there are commercial entities that do a service means that no one should ever do that service themselves again?
[19:31] <bkerensa> lol
[19:31] <snap-l> greg-g: If you want to set up those services (I run my own server) then feel free
[19:31] <bkerensa> imbrandon: so one our our loco guys works at one of the largest mail providers in the modern world and after the stories I have heard of how they handle  mail of consumer and enterprise customers
[19:31] <bkerensa> idk
[19:32] <greg-g> yeah, I use self-hosted email every day without issue
[19:32] <imbrandon> greg-g: no not at all, i;'m just saying knowing for what bk needs and the levelev of effort for him to put into it
[19:32] <snap-l> but if you're doing mass-mailings, it's probably better to get someone external
[19:32] <imbrandon> that its not worth it
[19:32] <imbrandon> but someone else or other use case it might be
[19:32] <greg-g> imbrandon: that's a different statement than what you were making above, then ;)
[19:32] <snap-l> Getting a SPF record right is an afternoon's work.
[19:32] <bkerensa> "SendGrid will have the right to collect, extract, compile, synthesize, and analyze non-personally identifiable data or information"
[19:32] <imbrandon> greg-g: only because i hyper targeted it to bk already so i knew my audiance :)
[19:32] <greg-g> heh, fair
[19:33] <greg-g> no out of context quoting imbrandon, you hear? ;)
[19:33] <imbrandon> hehe
[19:34] <imbrandon> and take no offince to that bkerensa as reading back what i just wrote looks kinda downer , i'd say exactly the same thing to/about  myself in this circumstance :) taken any other way than just a helpfull advice i'd take myself as well is not intended :)
[19:35] <bkerensa> jcastro: so remember the ppa I had to remove from subway at OSCON for node?
[19:35] <jcastro> yeah
[19:35] <bkerensa> well I guess SUMO only works with the ppa version
[19:35] <bkerensa> heh
[19:35] <jcastro> chris lea's ppa
[19:35] <bkerensa> go figure
[19:35] <jcastro> welcome to node.js!
[19:35] <MrChrisDruif> What+
[19:35] <imbrandon> heh node js is very version picky
[19:35] <MrChrisDruif> ?
[19:35] <imbrandon> but i loves it :)
[19:37] <imbrandon> jcastro: as long as you keep in the same series you SHOULD be fine, e.g. a 0.4.x node app / 0.6.x node app / 0.8.x node app ... etc also node like rvm/ruby or python etc etc can have multi version installed side by side easily
[19:40] <bkerensa> why are they not backwards compatible?
[19:41] <imbrandon> api changes, its a well known way to do things, just like the kernel 2.4 to 2.6 etc etc
[19:56] <bkerensa> jcastro: whats my limitations on instances for free? I wanna spawn up a dedicated instance for database
[20:07] <bkerensa> MySQL-Python wont install =/
[20:16] <jcastro> bkerensa: anything within reason
[20:16] <jcastro> anything that helps the project ftw.
[20:16] <jcastro> but if you need like 1000k instances or something you need to ask first (ask them not me)
[20:33] <czajkowski> aloha
[20:38] <JoseeAntonioR> hi, czajkowski!
[21:04] <daker> PHP madness...
[21:08] <mhall119> daker: that's the only way PHP works :)
[21:16] <philballew> bkerensa, if you need help with sumo, I can do some sumo stuff tomorrow
[21:19] <bkerensa> sumo is up
[21:19] <bkerensa> just going to do some minor tweaking on styles and next week or so we will begin testing
[21:20] <philballew> alright, ping or text me then or something
[21:37]  * mhall119 is off to make dinner
[21:39]  * bkerensa is off to install a SSD and migrate data
[23:15] <cjohnston> bkerensa: get them to hook me up with an ssd as well ;-)