2012/03/11/#ubuntu-au.txt

[00:35] <head_victim> Anyone know when daylight savings ends?
[00:37] <benonsoftware> 1st of April head_victim 
[00:37] <head_victim> Ah thanks, wasn't sure if it was March or April. Silly Southerners ;)
[00:37] <jaddi27> http://australia.gov.au/about-australia/our-country/time
[00:37] <benonsoftware> :p
[00:38] <head_victim> Alright, I'm off, remember the meeting tonight :)
[00:39] <benonsoftware> head_victim: I should come, however I might not be sane :)
[00:39] <jaddi27> benonsoftware, that doesn't sound too good
[00:39] <head_victim> Sane is a relative term
[00:40]  * benonsoftware didn't go to sleep until 3am and is as sick as a dog
[09:29] <benonsoftware> Meeting in 30 minutes correct?
[09:30] <fabricator4> Yes
[09:30] <benonsoftware> Cool, I've manage to stay up, hopefully I last whole meeting :P
[09:38] <head_victim> Evening all
[09:39] <benonsoftware> Evening head_victim 
[09:40] <fabricator4> Evening
[09:42] <head_victim> I'm madly trying to catch up on the 453 RSS reader items I haven't gotten to recently :/
[09:42] <head_victim> Down to under 300
[09:43]  * benonsoftware hasn't used RSS for ages
[09:43] <head_victim> It's the only way I keep up to date on stuff. I only have about 3 planets and a bunch of comics.
[09:45] <head_victim> Yay, up to March
[09:56] <head_victim> I dented/tweeted and posted to FB so fingers crossed we have a few tonight
[09:57] <jaddi27> The event is up on facebook as well, but has the wrong time for me (I tried fixing it, but it didn't change). Hopefully people read the description, which has the correct times
[09:58] <benonsoftware> head_victim: Just wondering with you being subscrubed to all AustraliaTeam page edits, how do I do the same but for UbuntuYouth and its subpages?
[09:58] <head_victim> Assuming you mean the wiki?
[09:58] <benonsoftware> Yes
[09:59] <head_victim> Log in to the wiki
[09:59] <head_victim> Click on your nick in the top bar
[09:59] <head_victim> Click on notifications
[09:59] <benonsoftware> Yep
[09:59] <head_victim> Then in the checklist select what notifications you want to receive. In the bottom window type in the pages you want to sub to
[09:59] <head_victim> So for the AU team I have:
[09:59] <head_victim> AustralianTeam
[09:59] <head_victim> AustralianTeam.*
[10:00] <head_victim> The first one for the front page, the second one for all the sub pages
[10:00] <benonsoftware> head_victim: Thank you very much
[10:00] <head_victim> No worries :)
[10:00] <jaddi27> ready for the meeting?
[10:00] <head_victim> Indeed :)
[10:00] <jaddi27> #startmeeting Ubuntu-AU March 2012 Team Meeting
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[10:01] <jaddi27> #chair sagaci, head_victim
[10:01] <meetingology> Current chairs: head_victim jaddi27 sagaci
[10:01] <head_victim> Evening all
[10:01] <fabricator4> Good Evening
[10:01] <benonsoftware> Evening
[10:01] <jaddi27> Hello everyone. Say something to be registered as attending
[10:01] <jaddi27> Agenda: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-au/347/detail/
[10:02] <sagaci> hello
[10:02] <jimbob> hello
[10:03] <jaddi27> On to the first topic
[10:03] <jaddi27> #topic Recap of Feb 2012 Meeting
[10:03]  * benonsoftware is sorry he missed that meeting
[10:03] <jaddi27> I thought I would add something new to the agenda - a way for us to review what actions, etc were discussed at the last meeting, so we know if we have done what we said we would
[10:04] <head_victim> jaddi27: good idea :)
[10:04] <jaddi27> Minutes from Feb meeting: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-au/2012/ubuntu-au.2012-02-12-10.01.html
[10:04] <jaddi27> The actions include:
[10:04] <jaddi27> ACTION: sagaci and jaddi27 to email ML with monthly meeting minutes
[10:04] <jaddi27> I think this was done after last meeting, and we will continue to do this for future meetings
[10:05] <jaddi27> ACTION: head_victim to put a call out for more volunteers to help with team reporting
[10:05] <jaddi27> head_victim, what was done with this action?
[10:05] <benonsoftware> May I sy sorry for not doing them that much, I have had some personal problems over the past for months
[10:06] <jaddi27> benonsoftware, That is alright. We were just trying to find other to assist as well for when you and the others were unavailable
[10:06] <sagaci> I've put in a couple of points but I've been moving house this past few weeks
[10:06] <head_victim> jaddi27: not a lot to be honest, sagaci had sort of volunteered but realistically it would be nice for a few others to know how it's done.
[10:08] <sagaci> I don't have the hours upon hours of time I used to have when I was going through the translations
[10:08] <jaddi27> Ok. I think this action should be carried through to this month, to see if we can get some other people involved
[10:08] <head_victim> sagaci: yeah, I don't seem to have the time I had 6 months ago on the previous role at work either
[10:09] <jaddi27> Any other discussion around the February meeting?
[10:09] <head_victim> Not that isn't going to be covered in other topics already :)
[10:10] <jaddi27> Ok. I think we can move on to the next topic
[10:10] <jaddi27> #topic Precise Pangolin Release Parties
[10:10] <jaddi27> head_victim, This is yours
[10:11] <head_victim> I've just noticed an absences of release parties around the country
[10:11] <head_victim> And was hoping to try and inspire some other locations to join in
[10:12] <firtvid20> Has Sydney ever had a release party?
[10:12] <sagaci> yes, a few back in 06, 07 and one just this last cycle
[10:12] <jaddi27> firtvid20, I think sagaci has organised one for there before
[10:12] <head_victim> Yep, Sydney, Melbourne, Tasmania, Adelaide and Perth ahve all ahd the in the past
[10:13] <dns53> I would like to do one in adelaide, when is the release date?
[10:13] <sagaci> last thursday in April
[10:13] <elky> and brisbane.
[10:13] <sagaci> 26th
[10:13] <jaddi27> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[10:14] <benonsoftware> I wouldn't mind getting one for Melbourne, however I will need to know what I have to do to set one help
[10:14] <firtvid20> Man I would love to come to one of these parties if I weren't so occupied
[10:14] <head_victim> dns53: I know some people like to hang out at the hackerspace down there so feel free to see if you can try and organise one there and cross pollinate :)
[10:14] <sagaci> find a venue, register it on l.u.c, turn up on the day
[10:14] <head_victim> benonsoftware: it's easy, you don't have to set up polls. Just pick a venue, date and time and put it up on loco.u.c and then tell the team and tweet, email and FB it :)
[10:14] <jaddi27> So far there is one release party scheduled: Sydney
[10:15] <jaddi27> details at: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-au/1505/detail/
[10:15] <firtvid20> :o
[10:15] <benonsoftware> head_victim: Ok
[10:15] <head_victim> It's better to only have 4 people show up to a small gathering than none :)
[10:15] <head_victim> benonsoftware: it would also be a way to try and meet locals that might help with your other problem with UDS :)
[10:15] <benonsoftware> Yep :P
[10:17] <sagaci> release is ~6 weeks away so events need to be drawn up soon so people see and plan for them
[10:17] <head_victim> I'll be finalising the Brisbane one by the end of next weekend 
[10:21] <head_victim> So, hopefully we have some more ideas 
[10:21] <head_victim> Next topic?>
[10:21] <jaddi27> Is there any more discussion around release parties for Precise?
[10:21] <jaddi27> #topic Ubuntu Global Jams March 2012
[10:22] <head_victim> Nice work if I don't say so myself with these
[10:22] <jaddi27> Last weekend the UGJ for the Precise Cycle was held around the world
[10:22] <jaddi27> Ubuntu-AU held 4 events - translation jam, localisation jam, artwork jam and wiki jam
[10:23] <jaddi27> sagaci, Could you report on the translation and artwork jams
[10:24] <jaddi27> I will report on the wiki and localisation jams
[10:24] <jaddi27> The wiki jam went well. We cleaned up a number of pages, and fixed up the headers
[10:25] <jaddi27> The contact page and meetings page were the most worked on
[10:25] <sagaci> I held a translation jam on Saturday, translating the remaining strings and fixing up ones that weren't fixed properly
[10:25] <head_victim> A few of those pages I meant to get to a long time ago but never did. 
[10:26] <sagaci> artwork jam was designed to create ubuntu ads/awareness posters
[10:27] <benonsoftware> Great job sagaci and jaddi27 for running them
[10:27] <jaddi27> The localisation jam went well. I still need to create the new repository with the latest localisation files, but should get that done soon
[10:28] <benonsoftware> jaddi27: I'll go photo hunting in the next month or so :P
[10:28] <head_victim> sagaci: the process for grepping the files would be a good tool to put up on the wiki somewhere if you had a chance.
[10:28] <sagaci> yep
[10:28] <sagaci> I'd like to see some offline jams happening in the next cycle
[10:29] <head_victim> sagaci: that is one of the things I think would be really useful
[10:29] <jaddi27> I probably could have done a install jam at my Uni, but there was not enough time to get it organised after I realised it would be useful
[10:29] <head_victim> I'm not sure how it will go, in Brisbane we're trying to do real world get togethers 3 monthly and the Jams don't really fit that cycle but we can do what we can I guess.
[10:30] <head_victim> jaddi27: if you ever think of things like that sing out and I can try to organise some CDs and stuff like that
[10:30] <sagaci> I'd like to organise a similar event in July in Sydney at one of the bigger libraries and just do Jam-type things but without it being on the same weekend
[10:30] <jaddi27> head_victim, After precise comes out, I will be running a install and training session
[10:30] <head_victim> Don't forget everyone, we do have some team posters, table runners, CDs and other things I can organise given enough time :)
[10:31] <head_victim> I have them here, they're not mine though. So please, feel free to organise events and if you want something let me know and we can try to organise postage of whatever can help
[10:33] <jaddi27> Hopefully everyone thought the jams went well, and I look forward to the jams for the Q-cycle
[10:34] <head_victim> One of the bigger benefits of being an official team means we have access to this sort of sponsorship from Canonical.
[10:34] <head_victim> Sounds like it's a good time for next topic?
[10:34] <jaddi27> Yes, I think so
[10:34] <jaddi27> #topic General Business
[10:34] <jaddi27> If you have something not covered by the other topics, feel free to bring them up now
[10:35] <benonsoftware> Quick questions: Will meeting times change because of Daylight savings finishing?
[10:35] <jaddi27> benonsoftware, They should stay at 8pm AEST
[10:35] <benonsoftware> Cool, as I will be able to make the meeting then most of the time
[10:35] <head_victim> We seem to run them off UTC +10 time to keep it easy
[10:36] <benonsoftware> ok
[10:36] <head_victim> I would just like to let people know that I"ve added access to this and the -chat channel to sagaci and jaddi27  as well while we're all here
[10:36] <head_victim> They have both proven to be reliable and involved over a long period of time.
[10:36] <benonsoftware> Yep
[10:37] <head_victim> I wanted to make sure others have access as with my new job at work I'm not at the computer here as often as I'd like or used to be so felt this would be a good thing to do for the team.
[10:37] <head_victim> Touch wood we've never really had problems here, but it's nice just in case
[10:38] <head_victim> I just thought it would be good to announce publically in a logged team meeting as well so no one felt left out 
[10:38] <jaddi27> head_victim, Is that active now, or is it still to be added?
[10:38] <head_victim> So thanks jaddi27 and sagaci for your ongoing commitment to the team.
[10:38] <head_victim> jaddi27: already active
[10:38] <sagaci> I'll relogin
[10:39] <jaddi27> Thanks head_victim 
[10:40] <jaddi27> Also, just to let everyone know, we have played around with the timezone settings on loco.ubuntu.com for the Ubuntu-AU team
[10:41] <head_victim> jaddi27: good point. We're going to do all the online things in UTC+10 and then all the local things in local time
[10:41] <jaddi27> We have been trying to get the ical files in the correct times
[10:41] <head_victim> That's basically what we thought would work best. Apparently I was doing time zones all wrong and that's why the ical was failing
[10:42] <jaddi27> One thing to note though - if you see 'UTC-10' on l.u.c, it is actually UTC+10 (the - and + are reversed in python timezones due to historical reasons)
[10:43] <jaddi27> So we will keep trialling events to see if they work correctly in this timezone, and if there are problems I will change the main timezone to try and fix it up properly
[10:44] <head_victim> As always, if you have any problems with loco.u.c please feel free to someone in the channel or on the ML.
[10:46] <head_victim> Anyone else have general business to bring up?
[10:46] <head_victim> Actually, I just remembered one I had
[10:47] <head_victim> I wanted to see what sort of reaction I'd get to the suggestion of emailing the major computer manufacturers and letting them know we exist so when they get support requests from users who have installed Ubuntu they can point them here
[10:47] <head_victim> This happened recently where Dell referred someone to my Ubuntu email address.
[10:47] <head_victim> So that got me thinking if we should actively promote this or not.
[10:47] <fabricator4> Sounds like a good idea
[10:47] <jaddi27> head_victim, Nice to know they actually tried to help out
[10:47] <head_victim> The upside is it would make it easier for average people to find help
[10:47] <jaddi27> I think that is a good idea
[10:47] <head_victim> The downside is we might get a lot more tech support requests.
[10:48] <head_victim> I don't see this as a big problem
[10:48] <head_victim> But thought I'd float the idea before dumping it on everyone without notice
[10:48] <fabricator4> If we got too many support requests, we could start referring people to the other main support areas - Launchpad and Ubuntu forums.
[10:49] <head_victim> If the mood is positive towards this I'll float the idea on the mailing list
[10:49] <fabricator4> Sure
[10:49] <jaddi27> head_victim, I think that would be fine
[10:49] <head_victim> I'll also ask around the traps what previous work has been done in this area in other LoCos so we're not starting from scratch.
[10:49] <dns53> dell and hp sell ubuntu machines in other countries
[10:49] <head_victim> dns53: exactly, the user bought it based on that fact. To their credit it sounds liek Dell were actually tryin gto assist with the problem
[10:50] <benonsoftware> I know that Dell Australia doesn't support Ubuntu
[10:50] <head_victim> But once it got to a higher level they had nowhere else to go but at least someone passed them my email. 
[10:50] <jaddi27> #action head_victim to email the ML about offering Ubuntu support to manufacturers
[10:50] <meetingology> ACTION: head_victim to email the ML about offering Ubuntu support to manufacturers
[10:51] <head_victim> If I get support from the ML I'll draft up an email I can send to the various manufacturers and likely retailers to make it easier for them to point people our way. That way they point to the list not just me personally as well :)
[10:53] <jaddi27> If there is nothing else, I think we should end the meeting
[10:54] <head_victim> Sounds good if no one else has anything else to add
[10:54] <head_victim> We're actually on time as well
[10:54] <benonsoftware> I'll be able to write the reports up for the wiki before noon tomorrow
[10:54] <jaddi27> The next meeting will be on April 8, starting at 8pm UTC+10 (daylight saving will be finished by then, so that time will apply to all eastern states)
[10:55] <benonsoftware> Cool, I **might** be able to come
[10:55] <fabricator4> Apologies in Advance, I will be out of the country.  I'll make it if I can...
[10:55] <head_victim> Thanks everyone for turning up
[10:55] <head_victim> fabricator4: the worst excuse yet! :P
[10:55] <jaddi27> Agenda for April meeting: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-au/374/detail/
[10:55] <fabricator4> :-)
[10:56] <jaddi27> #endmeeting
[10:56] <fabricator4> Night all.
[10:56] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sun Mar 11 10:56:48 2012 UTC.  
[10:56] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-au/2012/ubuntu-au.2012-03-11-10.00.moin.txt
[10:56] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-au/2012/ubuntu-au.2012-03-11-10.00.html
[10:56]  * benonsoftware plans to head to bed in a few minutes
[10:57] <head_victim> Night those that are leaving
[10:57] <jaddi27> head_victim, I will try to update the header now
[10:57] <head_victim> sagaci & jaddi27 I'll let one of you update the topic :)
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[11:00]  * benonsoftware doesn't like sending emails
[11:01] <jaddi27> head_victim, is that done correctly?
[11:01] <head_victim> Yep looks good :)
[11:01] <jaddi27> Eventually worked out what to do
[11:02] <head_victim> I'm thinking of updating the contact us page to have links to all the various places as well as a list of admins
[11:02] <head_victim> That way we can just point people to that for the team.
[11:02] <jaddi27> head_victim, Sounds good
[11:04] <benonsoftware> I better head to bed if I want to get better, see everyone later
[11:05] <head_victim> Night mate
[11:05] <sagaci> yeah seeya
[11:06] <jaddi27> benonsoftware, goodnight