2012/03/09/#kubuntu-devel.txt

[00:04] <JontheEchidna> [18:46:51] <kbroulik> btw kudos to the kubuntu packaging team … it's great that the releases get backported so quickly nowadays <3
[00:04] <JontheEchidna> ^from #kubuntu
[00:25] <bulldog98> apachelogger: printermanager?
[00:29] <apachelogger> bulldog98: what about it?
[00:34] <bulldog98> apachelogger: was it the stuff you was announcing?
[00:34] <apachelogger> eh?
[00:34] <apachelogger> what did I announce?
[00:34] <apachelogger> and where and when?
[00:42] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: your boot video made me find a boog with the codec installer on 64-bit systems, thx
[00:46] <JontheEchidna> what happened was a multiarch package was being reported as providing the codec, causing the real native plugin to not be found :(
[01:32] <bulldog98> apachelogger: could you have a look at my mockup at git clone kde:scratch/kolberg/ubiquity-mockup
[01:43] <apachelogger> tomrrow
[01:49] <bulldog98> apachelogger: ping me with feedback than :)
[01:49]  * bulldog98 goes to bed -> good night to all
[07:44] <Riddell> apachelogger: lovely booting
[09:26] <debfx> ScottK: could you please push the quassel packaging branch
[09:44] <Riddell> nobody packaged kde-gtk-config yet?
[09:44] <Riddell> debfx: what do you need done?
[09:44] <Riddell> upload it?
[09:51] <Sput> hmpf, kmail has become really unstable on kubuntu after the recent KDE upgrade, anyone else experiencing that problem?
[09:51] <Sput> the backtraces point to soprano...
[09:51] <debfx> I need an up to date branch
[09:53] <Riddell> debfx: oh synced with the archive
[09:53] <Riddell> let me look
[09:54] <debfx> well there is not much you can do about that
[09:55] <Riddell> debfx: done
[09:56] <Riddell> debfx: it seems to be under ~ubuntu-dev which seems to host a few projects but not many, it would be nicer to just use the launchpad packaging branches if you can live with the mix of upstream and packaging in a bzr branch
[09:57] <Riddell> debfx: but don't block if you have issues like that, just do the sync to bzr archive on your local checkout and have it merged in after you add your changes
[09:58] <debfx> I try to avoid the UDD branches when possible
[09:59] <Riddell> debfx: does anyone maintain debfx who isn't kubuntu?
[10:00] <debfx> Riddell: it's not urgent so didn't want to diverge the branch in case he just forgot to push it
[10:01] <debfx> I am being maintained by kubuntu? :O
[10:01] <Tm_T> yes, yes you are, didn't you get the memo?
[10:02] <Riddell> umm
[10:02] <Riddell> debfx: does anyone maintain quassel who isn't kubuntu?
[10:03] <debfx> no
[10:05] <Riddell> debfx: so maybe we should just move to ~kubuntu-packaging ?
[10:07] <debfx> Riddell: what's wrong with the current branch? I see no reason to change it
[10:07] <Riddell> debfx: you can't push to it?
[10:07] <Riddell> Sput: no sorry I haven't tested that, I'll take a look in a bit
[10:07] <debfx> I can push it
[10:08] <Riddell> debfx: oh so why did you need me to sync?
[10:08] <Riddell> but kontact was the main complaint I heard at cebit and that's no surprise
[10:10] <Riddell> debfx: or were you asking for something else entirely?
[10:10] <debfx> I didn't, I asked ScottK to push the branch in case he forgot to
[10:11] <debfx> (since he uploaded the last version)
[10:12] <debfx> ScottK: do you care about quassel being backportable to pre-precise releases?
[10:13] <Riddell> agateau: where is indicateqt support in kopete?  I can't find the code
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[12:33] <ScottK> debfx: Not particularly.  At least I won't after precise is released.
[12:33] <ScottK> debfx: Why?
[12:35] <ScottK> debfx: I don't have a local copy of the branch.  If I forgot it, I guess I forgot it completely.
[12:35] <ScottK> Riddell: One's work can be overwritten automatically in the UDD branches which seems like a very good reason to me to stay away from them (I have others, but I think that's sufficient).
[13:12] <ScottK> libdbusmenu-qt | 0.9.0-2ubuntu1 |       precise | source
[13:13] <ScottK> libdbusmenu-qt | 0.9.0-1 | sid     | source
[13:13] <ScottK> How is this possible (nothing in experimental)
[13:17] <debfx> ScottK: "Merge from Debian git"
[13:17] <Riddell> ScottK: it'll be moved to the side not overwritten but sure there's plenty problems with them
[13:19] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:37] <shadeslayer> ScottK: yes, I've updated the symbols and the package is in my PPA
[13:37] <shadeslayer> sec
[13:38] <shadeslayer> ScottK: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/qtwebkit-source_2.2.1-1ubuntu3%7Eppa1.dsc
[13:38] <ScottK> shadeslayer: OK.  How about I test build that on the arm box and you look at bug 947785 for digikam and then I'll test that one again after?
[13:38] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 947785 in digikam (Ubuntu) "Digikam crashes when selecting a camera to import images from" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/947785
[13:38] <shadeslayer> as for digikam, I've been trying to get qemubuilder to work, but it just refuses to work
[13:39] <shadeslayer> ok
[13:39] <shadeslayer> ( I left qemubuilder to make the image on my server for an entire day, nothing happened )
[13:40] <ScottK> It looks like some kind of a linking error somewhere.
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[13:42] <shadeslayer> "The problem happens if opencv is built with libdc1394 support"
[13:43] <ScottK> Note that there's more than one libusb version listed as a dependency.
[13:43] <shadeslayer> yeah
[13:43] <ScottK> Dunno if that's related or not.
[13:43] <ScottK> It doesn't seem good.
[13:43] <shadeslayer> I'm going through the KDE Bug report
[13:43] <ScottK> Keep in mind the current issue is "similar" to that one, not necessarily the same.
[13:44] <Riddell> what shall I put in the releaes team meeting report this week?
[13:44] <ScottK> 4.8.1 uploaded
[13:45] <ScottK> More progress on Kubuntu Active wonderfullness
[13:45] <Riddell> oh aye, anyone tested that?
[13:45] <ScottK> Work in progress on qtwebkit-source FTBFS on arm*.
[13:45] <ScottK> rbelem did.
[13:46] <Riddell> what did he find?
[13:46] <shadeslayer> well, some kdegames might not have sound in this release, but will probably get sound once we get openal into Main
[13:46] <Riddell> shadeslayer: is there an openal MIR?
[13:46] <shadeslayer> Should be soonish, mterry approved everything
[13:46] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yes
[13:46] <Riddell> oh nice
[13:46] <ScottK> Then Riddell can promote it and solve that.
[13:46] <Riddell> yeah what's the bug number?
[13:47] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft/+bug/586324 < Best to talk to mterry once before promotion :0
[13:47] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 586324 in openal-soft (Ubuntu) "[MIR] openal-soft" [Undecided,Fix committed]
[13:47] <shadeslayer> s/0/)
[13:48] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what to talk to mterry about?  he's approved it from reading the report
[13:48] <ScottK> shadeslayer: chroot updated and qtwebkit-source build kicked off.
[13:50] <Riddell> shadeslayer: openal-soft promoted to main
[13:50] <Riddell> will you upload a fixed kdegames?
[13:50] <shadeslayer> whee
[13:50] <shadeslayer> hmm, sure, give me a sec
[13:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell: pushed to bzr branch
[14:00] <Riddell> shadeslayer: need me to upload?
[14:00] <shadeslayer> yep
[14:03] <Riddell> shadeslayer: does it install any new files?
[14:03] <shadeslayer> uh ...
[14:03] <Riddell> shadeslayer: also missing a bug number
[14:03] <shadeslayer> it shouldn't really
[14:04] <shadeslayer> bug number?
[14:04] <Riddell> 13:47 < shadeslayer> Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft/+bug/586324
[14:04] <shadeslayer> ah
[14:04] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 586324 in openal-soft (Ubuntu) "[MIR] openal-soft" [Undecided,Fix released]
[14:04] <shadeslayer> nope
[14:04] <shadeslayer> bug 941745
[14:04] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 941745 in kdegames (Ubuntu) "kgoldrunner built without sound support" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/941745
[14:04] <Riddell> shadeslayer: or that
[14:05] <Riddell> shadeslayer: when you say "it shouldn't really" do you mean "no I've checked" or do you mean "not sure, I'm guessing not"
[14:05] <shadeslayer> latter
[14:05] <shadeslayer> I'll test build
[14:05] <Riddell> need an ec2?
[14:06] <shadeslayer> nah, will do it on yofel's thinkpad :)
[14:06]  * shadeslayer is a bit slow today, everything hurts
[14:08] <shadeslayer> hmm
[14:08] <rbelem> Riddell, it boots straight to lightdm
[14:08] <shadeslayer> we have python-kde4 in main, and yet we don't build kdegames with that
[14:08] <rbelem> Riddell, but there isnt user to login
[14:08] <rbelem> :-(
[14:09] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Why not?  
[14:09] <shadeslayer> ScottK: no idea, looking into it
[14:10] <Riddell> ok so we need need to work out the one line bash script to change lightdm to do autologin
[14:10] <Riddell> rbelem: can you look what that is?
[14:10] <ScottK> Riddell: Why not just use nodm if you always want autologin?
[14:10] <Riddell> sed s,AutoLogin=False,AutoLogin=True, /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc is something like what we have currently
[14:10] <Riddell> ScottK: because I know less about nodm then I do about lightdm
[14:11] <ScottK> It seemed to work OK for -mobile.
[14:11] <rbelem> Riddell, yup :-)
[14:12] <rbelem> ScottK, i think we had some throuble to turn off
[14:12] <ScottK> OK.  
[14:12] <rbelem> when using nodm
[14:18] <shadeslayer> argh
[14:19] <shadeslayer> python-support and python-qt-dev are in universe
[14:19] <shadeslayer> that's why
[14:19] <shadeslayer> which is weird
[14:19] <shadeslayer> since python-qt4 is in main
[14:19] <ScottK> shadeslayer: If something uses python-support, let's migrate it to dh_python2.
[14:20] <shadeslayer> ScottK: oh, then either python-qt4 or python-kde uses python-support
[14:20] <ScottK> shadeslayer: python-qt-dev is a python-qt3 package.
[14:20] <shadeslayer> because kdegames uses dh_python2
[14:20] <shadeslayer> oh
[14:20] <ScottK> shadeslayer: No.  Neither do.
[14:21] <ScottK> python-qt4-dev is probably what you were thinking of.
[14:23] <Riddell> rbelem: you can login to the image with user "kubuntu-active", it currently has plasma-desktop on the image
[14:25] <Riddell> ScottK: someone is looking at qtwebkit on arm?
[14:26] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes.  I'm test building shadeslayer's fix right now.
[14:26] <Riddell> ScottK: what's his fix?
[14:26] <ScottK> Updated symbols.
[14:26] <Riddell> is shadeslayer a secret elite arm hacker?
[14:26] <shadeslayer> nope, just new symbols  ...
[14:27] <Riddell> shadeslayer: so it all compiles now except the symbols file is wrong?
[14:27] <shadeslayer> also, kdegames depends on python-twisted-core but CMake tells me it can't find it
[14:27] <shadeslayer> Riddell: thats what the build log told me
[14:27] <Riddell> great
[14:27] <shadeslayer> btw, that's for qtwebkit
[14:28] <Riddell> yes
[14:28] <Riddell> you need to learn to read cmake to get to the bottom of issues like "depends on python-twisted-core but CMake tells me it can't find it"
[14:30] <ScottK> It's likely that we install it somewhere other than where it expects to find it.
[14:32] <shadeslayer> ah, well, that warning is misleading
[14:32] <shadeslayer> it depends on it as in, Depends and not Build Depends
[14:32] <ScottK> Right.  That's another one.
[14:32] <ScottK> KDE conflates those two things sometimes.
[14:33] <shadeslayer> :(
[14:33] <Riddell> rbelem: kubuntu-active needs  plasma-active-default-settings and kubuntu-active-default-settings
[14:33] <Riddell> adding to seeds
[14:33] <ScottK> This is because everyone builds KDE from source on the same machine they'll run it on so build time warnings about runtime issues are a great idea.
[14:51] <Riddell> kde-telepathy reply http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-telepathy/2012-March/005690.html
[14:58] <ScottK> Release date seems pretty late.
[14:58] <ScottK> Other than that I think it's ~OK if we get the MI integration and the desktop file name change.
[15:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: uh, everything looks good, except that I see that granatier is disabled in debian/control, nothing in the changelog about that
[15:02] <Riddell> shadeslayer: so no new files?
[15:02] <shadeslayer> Riddell: nope
[15:02] <Riddell> groovy
[15:03] <shadeslayer> I'll look into digikam after dinner
[15:03] <shadeslayer> bbl
[15:03] <Riddell> rbelem: kubuntu-active-meta uploaded, remind me to spin new images in an hour or so
[15:04] <Riddell> shadeslayer: kdegames uploaded
[15:16] <shadeslayer> \o/
[15:57] <rbelem> Riddell, kubuntu-active user? no password?
[15:57] <Riddell> rbelem: right
[15:58] <rbelem> Riddell, we have to define plasma-active as the default session for lightdm
[15:58] <Riddell> rbelem: and auto login, just a config file change presumably
[15:59] <rbelem> Riddell, nice... i will do that in the next hours. i'm leaving for lunch now
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[16:19] <debfx> could one of you core-devs have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~debfx/ubuntu/precise/language-selector/kubuntu/+merge/92967 ? otherwise it will never get merged
[16:35] <ScottK> Unless you apply for core-dev.
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[17:48] <nixternal> anyone on precise update to today's network-mangler release?
[17:58] <nixternal> I HATE NETWORK MANAGER!
[18:09] <shadeslayer> ScottK: how goes QtWebkit
[18:15] <ScottK> May have killed the box.  ssh is either very slow or not responding.
[18:15] <shadeslayer> ouch
[18:15] <shadeslayer> poor boxen
[18:15] <ScottK> I'll go plug in a keyboard/monitor and see what's up in a bit if it doesn't recover.
[18:20] <bulldog98> apachelogger: do you know how I can get qtcreator to show me all the qmlplugins of kde?
[18:20] <bulldog98> eg org.kde.qtextracomponents?
[18:22] <shadeslayer> uh, you can't right now I think
[18:22] <shadeslayer> you need to manually write stuff last time I checked, but that was like 4-5 months ago
[18:24] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: hm
[18:25] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: maybe #plasma can help you out? 
[18:25] <shadeslayer> They're bound to be proficient with that stuff
[18:36] <Peace-> hola
[18:45] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Still building.  ssh eventually recovered.
[18:45] <shadeslayer> \o/
[18:48] <shadeslayer> ScottK: I don't suppose you know a sekrit way of making pbuilder work with qemu right?
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[20:18] <sheytan> apachelogger: pongi
[20:53] <j2_> Anyone is in charge of Kmix here?
[20:58] <shadeslayer> j2_: if it's a packaging issue, feel free to state the issue, if it's a bug in the application, please file a bug on bugs.kde.org
[20:59] <shadeslayer> Night guys
[20:59] <j2_> shadeslayer: Well I can't
[20:59] <j2_> shadeslayer: Good night
[21:00] <j2_> someone in #kubuntu had updated KDE 4.8 and Kmix randomly crashes, The bug report tool also crashes and when they submit the bug on bugs.kde.org that crashes so they are a little put off
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[21:01] <j2_> Just thought that whoever was the maintainer of kmix might know if there was a known bug
[21:14] <sheytan> someone has a ppa with telepathy 0.3?
[21:14] <sheytan> for 10.11
[21:15] <sheytan> 11.1
[21:15] <sheytan> wait
[21:15] <sheytan> what version do we have now?
[21:15] <sheytan> 11.10 yeah :D
[21:17] <j2_> 12.26
[21:21] <sheytan> apachelogger: http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8784/plytests2.jpg
[21:25] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I don't know a thing about qemu.  Still building, BTW.
[21:25] <bulldog98> sheytan: looks nice
[21:26] <ScottK> j2_: The issue with Dr. Konqi is known.  They should report a bug manually on bugs.kde.org.
[21:26] <sheytan> bulldog98: thank you :)
[21:26] <j2_> ScottK: bugs.kde.org crashes when they do so
[21:26] <ScottK> j2_: Use a web browser and copy/paste the back trace.
[21:28] <j2_> ScottK: Hmm You mean pastebin it?
[21:29] <j2_> When they submit the bug bugzilla rturns them to a unknown error page
[21:29] <ScottK> Even via a web browser?
[21:30] <j2_> As I understand it 
[21:31] <ScottK> Worth bringing up with KDE folks then, but I don't know the best channel.
[21:31] <ScottK> I think there's a #kde-sysadmin or similar.
[21:31] <j2_> I do :)
[21:31] <ScottK> Excellent.
[21:31] <j2_> ScottK: Anything known about Kmix crashing? since if that stops then the DrKonqui thing is moot
[21:32] <j2_> for the time being
[21:32] <ScottK> First I heard of it.
[21:33] <j2_> Me too and it seems to happen 1/2 dozen times a day
[21:42] <bulldog98> sheytan: could you have a look at the git repro kde:scratch/kolberg/ubiquity-mockup ? thanks
[21:43] <sheytan> bulldog98: link via web please?
[21:44] <bulldog98> sheytan: http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=scratch%2Fkolberg%2Fubiquity-mockup.git&a=tree&hb=66819b0a003e65efc0a97aa08d9e488dbdb8db8e
[21:46] <sheytan> bulldog98: can i run it somehow to see how it works together? Or is there a demo?
[21:46] <bulldog98> qmlviewer -I /usr/lib/kde4/imports Ubiquity-mockup.qml
[21:46] <bulldog98> If you have all the files in the current dir
[21:53] <bulldog98> sheytan: video with out the popups: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bulldog98/ubiquity/ubiquity-mockup.avi
[21:56] <sheytan> bulldog98: not bad. Will take a look at it tomorrow :)
[21:56] <bulldog98> sheytan: feedback is good
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[22:51] <bulldog98> good night
[22:56] <j2_> night