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[01:59] <bkerensa> Can I have Bug #949578 marked as Wishlist [01:59] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 949578 in xorg-gtest "[MIR] xorg-gtest" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949578 [02:01] <bkerensa> and Bug #949568 and Bug #949575 [02:01] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 949568 in gnome-session "Default GNOME fallback session should be "GNOME Classic (no effects)" (Metacity)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949568 [02:01] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 949575 in gtest "Main inclusion request for libgtest-dev" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949575 === philipballew is now known as hello_my_name_is === hello_my_name_is is now known as philipballew === zyga-xchat is now known as zyga [09:08] <veger> bug #799460 is not being caused by akregator (kdepim), but by an other application of which I am not sure (nspluginviewer/firefox/???). What to do with this report? Just setting the kdepim status to invalid seems a bit harsh to me... [09:08] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 799460 in kdepim "nspluginviewer crashes when attempting to display flash content in Akregator" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/799460 === zyga-xchat is now known as zyga === zyga-xchat is now known as zyga-afk === zyga-afk is now known as zyga === zyga-xchat is now known as zyga === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch === yofel is now known as yofel_ === yofel_ is now known as yofel === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 === vivek is now known as Guest90488 === Guest90488 is now known as pvivek === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-lunch === dshufelt is now known as dsmitty [19:08] <matthew-parlette> not sure if my last message went through: [19:08] <matthew-parlette> hey all, I'm working on bug 950006, which appears to have all error messages included and I can't find any duplicates based on the error text, is there anything else I need to do on this before confirming it? [19:08] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 950006 in update-manager "Upgrade from oneiric to precise fails because of py3clean" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950006 === Ursinha-lunch is now known as Ursinha === dshufelt is now known as dsmitty === htorque_ is now known as htorque === dshufelt is now known as dsmitty === htorque_ is now known as htorque [21:45] <bdmurray> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/72478714/bad%20bad%20bad%20very%20bad%20video.ogv [21:45] <bdmurray> lol [21:50] <yofel> nice one :D [21:51] <mdeslaur> hehe [22:50] <JohnNapster> hello [22:51] <JohnNapster> there's a critical bug in ubuntu [22:52] <bdmurray> do you mean one that isn't marked as critical? [22:54] <JohnNapster> please listen [22:55] <JohnNapster> if you set your admin account to hve a blank password, you will regret it for the rest of your life [22:55] <JohnNapster> because you will not be able to log into your admin user account once you reboot your machine [22:56] <JohnNapster> i tried EVERYTHING [22:56] <hggdh> ? why not sudo? [22:56] <JanC> I think the only bug there is that you could set an empty password [22:56] <hggdh> by 'admin' I understand root [22:56] <JohnNapster> nope [22:57] <JohnNapster> by admin i mean an administrator account [22:57] <JohnNapster> not root [22:57] <hggdh> an account that is a member of the admin group, right? [22:57] <JohnNapster> admin = administrator type account (not standard) [22:57] <JohnNapster> yes [22:57] <jalcine> You should be able to reset the password of the account using sudo though, [22:57] <JohnNapster> like how ?? [22:57] <jalcine> if you have another account in the sudoers group. [22:58] <JohnNapster> i don+t [22:58] <hggdh> ok. One way out of this mess, right now, is to boot into recovery [22:58] <JohnNapster> that's my problem [22:58] <JanC> log in to the rescue console [22:58] <JohnNapster> okay just tell me and i'll try at reboot [22:58] <JanC> well, boot into the rescue console [22:58] <JohnNapster> how? [22:59] <JanC> JohnNapster: hold shift while booting, then choose the appropriate option in the boot menu [22:59] <JohnNapster> please bare with me, i am really dumb :) [22:59] <hggdh> (1) reboot; (2) hold the SHIFT key until you see the GRUB boot menu; (3) select recovery [22:59] <JohnNapster> ok [22:59] <hggdh> you will be put into a console [23:00] <JohnNapster> then what should i do? [23:00] <hggdh> as root. Then, you enter "passwd <your account>", [23:00] <hggdh> where <your account> is the one you do not have a password [23:00] <JohnNapster> just like that? [23:00] <JanC> it will give you a menu, choose the root shell option [23:01] <JohnNapster> so like abc123 myaccountname ?? [23:01] <hggdh> then you enter the new password. It is a VERY GOOD idea to make it the same you had before [23:01] <JohnNapster> no sudo in front or some other command? [23:01] <JanC> it gives you a root shell ;) [23:01] <JohnNapster> i see [23:01] <hggdh> like 'passwd hggdh', where 'hggdh' is the account [23:01] <JohnNapster> i see [23:01] <hggdh> now [23:02] <JohnNapster> okay now i get it... nw i have question [23:02] <JanC> and yes, you can disable/restrict that option in the grub boot menu ;) [23:02] <JohnNapster> why don't u block making a blank password? [23:02] <hggdh> it is really NOT a very good idea to have an admin-capable account without password, EVEN if the machine is at home, in a safe [23:02] <hggdh> because there are uses for it [23:03] <JohnNapster> yeah, like if you anna break everything like i did [23:03] <JanC> hggdh: I disagree that there are uses for 99.99% of users that use the GUI installer [23:03] <hggdh> this is a bug, though: an account member of the admin group should NEVER be allowed not to have a password [23:03] <JohnNapster> please inforce that [23:04] <hggdh> JanC: I am not discussing the merit of password-less accounts ;-) I frankly do not see any reason for them, at all [23:04] <JohnNapster> because otheerwise we experience nasty effects (like not being able to login to the admin type account) [23:05] <hggdh> yes, this is an usage issue (user expectation). This should not be allowed [23:05] <JohnNapster> if we set a blank password [23:05] <JanC> hggdh: oh, I can see uses for them, but not for members of group admin in Ubuntu ;) [23:06] <hggdh> there is a thread, somewhere, about this. JohnNapster, what is your Ubuntu version? [23:06] * hggdh thinks this is a bit recent [23:06] <JohnNapster> can you guys force the user not being able to set a blank password in the User Accounts section for the group admin accounts?? [23:06] <JohnNapster> my version is 11.10 [23:07] <hggdh> thanks. JohnNapster, I believe you have ways of pinging us here if you have an issue during the resetting of the password. Please holler if so [23:08] <JohnNapster> i'll try your suggestion [23:08] <JohnNapster> brb [23:08] <hggdh> some sort of decision must be taken (either correcting the error you get when you try to 'sudo', or not allowing a password-less admin account) [23:08] <JanC> JohnNapster: and please file a bug report about this [23:08] <JohnNapster> oh and about that bug... are you gonna fix it? [23:08] <JohnNapster> please ou do it [23:08] <hggdh> if you open the bug, why, yes, we will :-) [23:09] <JohnNapster> i am very limited on this machine [23:09] <JohnNapster> someone ought to do this [23:09] <JohnNapster> i can't, really [23:09] <JohnNapster> hggdh: would you do the honors? [23:10] <hggdh> JohnNapster: I will try to reproduce. If I can, I will (may be related to 11.10, only, and I will have to install it) [23:11] * hggdh thinks this sounds like a regression [23:12] <JohnNapster> i can get into the recovery console by Ctl+Alt+F4 [23:13] <JohnNapster> i did what you said and it spitted out command mypassword123 not found [23:13] <JohnNapster> and then Alt+F7 to come back [23:14] <JohnNapster> and yes, i was doing the thing u said as root [23:15] <JohnNapster> root@Machine mypassword123 myaccountname1234 [23:15] <JohnNapster> and it says mypassword123: command not found [23:16] <JohnNapster> anyother suggestion? [23:17] <hggdh> passwd account [23:18] <hggdh> passwd is the command [23:18] <JohnNapster> oh [23:18] <JohnNapster> silly me [23:18] <hggdh> JohnNapster: let's say your account is named 'john' [23:18] <JohnNapster> ok [23:18] <hggdh> so you type in 'passwd john' [23:18] <JohnNapster> oohh [23:19] <JohnNapster> so you mean like passwd john mysecretpassword123 ? [23:19] <hggdh> and, again, it is a VERY good idea to set the password to what it was before [23:19] <JohnNapster> ok, gotcha [23:19] <hggdh> there are other parts of the desktop experience that will be happier this way [23:23] <JohnNapster> they shouldn't be "happieer" [23:23] <JohnNapster> they should adapt to the new password [23:23] <JohnNapster> ubuntu is very broken in this regard [23:23] <hggdh> they do. But you are outside the desktop, right now [23:23] <JohnNapster> not really [23:24] <hggdh> actually, Ubuntu (or Linux, in general) is not broken on this... [23:24] <JohnNapster> i am in a guest account in firefox [23:24] <JohnNapster> tring to get some help from ou guys [23:24] <JohnNapster> tring [23:24] <JohnNapster> god dammit :) [23:24] <JohnNapster> trying* [23:25] <hggdh> heh [23:25] <hggdh> JohnNapster: I am confused. If you are under a guest account, how can you run the password change process? [23:26] <JohnNapster> Ctrl+Alt+F4 [23:27] <hggdh> that would not really help, since you cannot login as root [23:27] <JohnNapster> gets me into the console and then i get out by Alt+F7 [23:27] <JohnNapster> i can! [23:27] <JohnNapster> i already did login as root that way [23:28] <hggdh> so, so you CAN login as root. Did you change the password for your account? [23:28] <JohnNapster> it didn't work [23:28] <hggdh> please give us the exact command you executed, and the EXACT output [23:29] <JohnNapster> ok let me retype [23:30] <JohnNapster> too much to retype... [23:30] <JohnNapster> it was like so... [23:30] <JohnNapster> i typed su [23:30] <JohnNapster> and then i was root [23:31] <hggdh> and? [23:31] <JohnNapster> then i typed passwd and pressed enter [23:31] <hggdh> NOOOOOO [23:31] <JohnNapster> it said please type new UNIX password [23:31] <hggdh> passwd <account> [23:31] <JohnNapster> oh [23:31] <hggdh> you most probably just changed the root password [23:31] <JohnNapster> wait [23:31] <JohnNapster> i did yeah [23:32] <hggdh> better not forget it... [23:33] <JohnNapster> okay now i did it [23:33] <JohnNapster> let me try this baby [23:38] <JohnNapster> my sincere condolences, but this does not work guys [23:38] <JohnNapster> i am still not able to login to my admin group account [23:38] <JohnNapster> i am logged in as guest [23:39] <JohnNapster> and i can't even mount my usb key [23:40] <hggdh> did you login with your account? [23:40] <JohnNapster> yes [23:40] <JohnNapster> but it threw me out [23:41] <JohnNapster> i had no choice but to pick the Guest account at the Unity login [23:41] <hggdh> what happened? [23:41] <JohnNapster> or how it's called [23:42] <JohnNapster> some text was displayed after i clicked on my account .... you know where it says blah blah blah[OK] [23:43] <JohnNapster> and then it put me right back to the login screen [23:43] <bdmurray> blah blah blah isn't very descriptive [23:43] <hggdh> so we go back to resetting the password on your admin account [23:43] <JohnNapster> my account (the admin group one) did not have the password field... just a button labeled Login [23:44] <hggdh> which means it does not have a password [23:44] <JohnNapster> bt i must hve [23:44] <hggdh> I thought this was what we asked you to do [23:44] <JohnNapster> i changed it [23:44] <hggdh> let's do it again [23:44] <JohnNapster> logged in as root, did the passwd john password123 [23:44] <hggdh> no [23:44] <hggdh> passwd john [23:45] <JohnNapster> i mean passwd john [23:45] <JohnNapster> yeah [23:45] <hggdh> ok [23:45] <JohnNapster> then when it asked i typed the password [23:45] <hggdh> now STILL on the console, log out, and log in as john [23:46] <JohnNapster> like type exit to get out of root ? [23:46] <hggdh> yes, and get back to the console login [23:46] <JohnNapster> like which console login? [23:47] <hggdh> ctrl-alt-f1 [23:47] <JohnNapster> oh that one [23:47] <JohnNapster> ok [23:47] <JohnNapster> my machine name is Monk [23:47] <JohnNapster> it says Monk login [23:48] <hggdh> yes [23:48] <hggdh> now type in your account name [23:48] <hggdh> then you will be prompted for a password, type the new password in [23:49] <JohnNapster> you know what? [23:49] <hggdh> shoot :-) [23:49] <hggdh> it did not work... [23:49] <JohnNapster> i typed john in there and i had to type my password [23:49] <JohnNapster> i typed the one i set before [23:49] <JohnNapster> it worked! [23:49] <hggdh> heh [23:49] <hggdh> OK [23:50] <JohnNapster> but i still can't login to that account at the GUI level [23:50] <JohnNapster> i am not even asked for password [23:50] <JohnNapster> this is a terrible bug [23:50] <hggdh> nope [23:51] <JohnNapster> why did i make the account password blank, oh for the love of god why [23:52] <JohnNapster> ok what do you propose now? [23:52] <hggdh> as root, enter "sudo restart lightdm" <- you WILL lose your gueste session. Then login again, and come here again [23:52] <JohnNapster> ok [23:52] <JohnNapster> see ya ;) [23:52] <hggdh> we will be here [23:55] <JohnNapster_> htorhello [23:55] <JohnNapster_> hggdh: thank you a million times!! [23:55] <JohnNapster_> now i am logged into my john account [23:55] <JohnNapster_> thanks so much [23:59] <JohnNapster_> another thing... why does a blank password corrupt the admin group account? |