2012/02/20/#kubuntu.txt

[00:01] <Daughain> Well I think it means mount, it says joint.....;-)
[00:01] <Ezim> Daughain, so you can read/write now?
[00:01] <Ezim> Daughain, otherwise read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131&page=20
[00:01] <Daughain> I can do absolutely Nouri g with it at this point.
[00:02] <Daughain> Nothing that is.
[00:03] <Ezim> Daughain, think problem is ntfs is not best friend with linux format when it comes to automounting
[00:04] <Jarli> Anyone home?
[00:04] <Daughain> Never had any trouble with this drive till I installed mint.
[00:04] <Jarli> eh sorry
[00:04] <Ezim> Daughain, :) damn mint.
[00:05] <maniX__> orated:  are u back?
[00:05] <Jarli> I got a question about the Grub time out
[00:05] <Ezim> Daughain, :) use kubuntu/ubuntu
[00:05] <Jarli> can i set it to say 10 seconds, and if so how?
[00:05] <Ezim> Jarli, kdesudo kate /etc/default/grub
[00:05] <Ezim> change to 10
[00:05] <Ezim> then sudo update-grub2
[00:05] <Ezim> done
[00:05] <Jarli> i type that in a terminal?
[00:06] <Ezim> Jarli, :) yeah terminal/konsole
[00:06] <Jarli> <- new to linus and kubuntu
[00:06] <Daughain> Ezim: Usually do, but decided to install mint for gnome.
[00:06] <Jarli> kdesudo not found...
[00:07] <Jarli> kdesudi kate /etc/default/grub
[00:07] <Jarli> No command 'kdesudi' found, did you mean:
[00:07] <Jarli>  Command 'kdesudo' from package 'kdesudo' (main)
[00:07] <Jarli> kdesudi: command not found
[00:07] <Daughain> Is there a room for mint?
[00:07] <Jarli> oh
[00:07] <Jarli> der
[00:07] <FloodBotK1> Jarli: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:07] <Ezim> Jarli, kdesudo kate /etc/default/grub and not kdesudi :)
[00:08] <Jarli> ok grub txt opened
[00:08] <Jarli> do I need to find a certain line?
[00:09] <Ezim> GRUB_TIMEOUT=10
[00:09] <Jarli> ok cool. Set it to 20
[00:09] <Ezim> :) Jarli that works also
[00:09] <Jarli> some times I might have a brain lapse... (to much beer) haha
[00:09] <Jarli> thank you for the guidance
[00:10] <Jarli> odd question, but whats the meaning behind ' sudo'  ?
[00:10] <yofel> Jarli: you might need to disable the HIDDEN settings if you want the menu to be shown
[00:10] <yofel> otherwise do what Ezim said
[00:10] <Ezim> Jarli, write man sudo
[00:11] <Jarli> the grub menu does show, I just installed kubuntu to another partition, besides windows 7
[00:11] <Ezim> Jarli, will give you all information you need about sudo :)
[00:11] <Jarli> so I need to reboot
[00:11] <Ezim> after you read all, press Q.
[00:12] <Ezim> Jarli, did you run sudo update-grub2
[00:12] <Ezim> ?
[00:12] <Ezim> do that before reboot
[00:12] <Jarli> Yes I did
[00:12] <Ezim> Jarli, happy rebooting :)
[00:12] <Jarli> bye for now
[00:13] <Ezim> Daughain, yes there is.
[00:14] <Ezim> #linuxmint-help <<--- Daughain.
[00:14] <Daughain> Risk: Thanks
[00:14] <Daughain> Some days I hate this auto-correct....
[00:16]  * Ezim are going to bed. bye!
[00:16] <Jarli> worked*
[00:16] <Jarli> It worked
[00:16] <Ezim> Jarli, nice. bye.
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[00:54] <mag_one> hi
[00:54] <mag_one> ich bin sowas von neu aber freu mich auf alles
[01:01] <maniX> hello friends, i am using kubuntu 0n hp-g6-1219tu laptop. It has a broadcom 4313 wireless card installed on it. I have installed broadcom STA drivers  to it. I have made the wifi to work my blacklisting bcma and brcmsmac modules. But the bluetooth is not working. Please help me someone
[01:40] <Evansdny> hello
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[02:00] <TeslaTony> My sound has died and I have no idea what happened, or how to get it back. Any help?
[02:01] <Guest79323> SOOOO
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[02:03] <rain__> Alot of Konversation going on in here
[02:03] <OvermindDL1> So, my monitor has two outputs with two monitors, I also have two keyboards and two mice, how can I get two people logged on with their own users on their own monitor with their own mouse/keyboard in kubuntu?
[02:03] <OvermindDL1> my video card has two outpppppppppppppppputs*
[02:03] <OvermindDL1> outputs*
[02:06] <snowmanbamf> I just downloaded kubuntu 11.10 and my wireless doesnt work...  (framework not found)  please help???
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[02:42] <gogeta> bo
[02:51] <Uncle_Fester> how do you uninstall a program in wine?
[02:55] <mag_one> guten morgen:)
[02:56] <Sentynel> Uncle_Fester: applications > wine > uninstall wine software
[02:57] <Uncle_Fester> i dont see it
[03:01] <Sentynel> Uncle_Fester: are you on a really old version? looks like it was added in wine 1.1.2
[03:01] <Sentynel> anyway, try running wine uninstaller or just uninstaller from the console
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[05:10] <freelnx> hi
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[06:32] <maniX> orated_: u here man?
[06:33] <maniX> orated_: heres the pastepin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/849282/
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[06:48] <macele> Anybody have a obnoxious bright yellow screen when they're rebooting after installing the proprietary amd drivers?
[07:02] <OvermindDL1> macele: Nope
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[09:49] <excognac> Good morning ladies and gentlemen!
[09:50] <excognac> If I downloaded kde 4.8 from ppa, I should still keep it as a software source, right?
[10:04] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[10:04] <ubottu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
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[12:35] <fatum> now I'm not sure where to ask this... but I was just on my way to split my windows partition (used to be dual-boot Kubuntu and Win7), just to get 20GB for trying out Archlinux install. So Gparted started and ended on 6%. Now I can't access anything from the sda2, 320GB partition on which I had everything :3 ...yyeeah, no backup.
[12:35] <fatum> I have tried testdisk, but I it's unbootable and can't seem to rebuild it.
[12:36] <Tm_T> fatum: ubuntu live cd doesn't help?
[12:37] <fatum> how would it help? I have a working Kubuntu partition, no problem. But I can't mount that biggest partition, on which windows was
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[12:43] <roland> Somewhere I read, that Canonical is dropping support for Kubuntu... is it true?
[12:46] <fatum> roland: afaik, Kubuntu will continue, just the paid support will not be available anymore.
[12:46] <roland> Kubuntu had paid support?
[12:47] <Peace-> roland: kubuntu will be supported like xubuntu
[12:47] <Peace-> roland: by community
[12:48] <roland> So canonical will still provide the servers for repositories?
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[13:01] <Peace-> roland: http://xubuntu.org xubuntu has the same position of kubuntu right now
[13:01] <Peace-> roland: so ...
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[13:16] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
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[13:51] <jEhrichs> roland: only the paid developer(s) are gone, the infrastructure remains. So basically not much if any will change
[13:56] <TheBlade> hi, kubuntu iso not readable by mac os, is there something to do to make it readable by mac os ?
[13:58] <DaemonFC> how can an ISO9660 image not be recognized by any operating system in the last decade?
[13:58] <DaemonFC> that's like saying it doesn't know what a jpeg is
[13:59] <TheBlade> don't know, mac os just can't open it
[13:59] <TheBlade> and won't boot it either
[14:00] <DaemonFC> I'm out of my league on this one, I had an ipod once for about a week and then sold it and ran screaming
[14:00] <TheBlade> :))
[14:00] <DaemonFC> that's the end of my Apple expertise, but it sounds...odd that it won't just open an ISO
[14:01] <TheBlade> its not about iso i think, because i can open ubuntu iso, its about kubuntu iso, it seams to have a specific format, only windows can see it
[14:08] <Sentynel> TheBlade: sounds like the iso's corrupted; check the md5 sum
[14:08] <Sentynel> ubuntu and kubuntu isos are generated the same way
[14:09] <TheBlade> md5 sum ok, the dvd boots from a PC but not from a MAC, and in mac os, if i try to open it says format not recognized
[14:09] <GradysGhost> Can you mount it on the terminal?
[14:09] <TheBlade> i burned one from mac os, burning ok md5 ok, but still not recognized
[14:10] <GradysGhost> Also, does it mount on other systems (if you have another system to test with)?
[14:11] <TheBlade> no just windows and mac
[14:11] <GradysGhost> Does it mount in Windows?
[14:11] <TheBlade> i tried both 4gb and 700gb iso
[14:11] <TheBlade> yes good in windows
[14:11] <GradysGhost> I'm not a Mac person by a long shot, but you can try running something like...
[14:12] <GradysGhost> Like a normal mount command on the Mac terminal
[14:12] <GradysGhost> I'm unfamiliar with the Mac filesystem layout and permissions, though.
[14:12] <GradysGhost> So I can't really tell you what to type
[14:13] <TheBlade> ok i'll try to find the command ty @GradysGhost
[14:13] <GradysGhost> np
[14:13] <GradysGhost> If you figure that much out, run it and let us know what the output is.  It might be helpful.
[14:14] <TheBlade> ok
[14:19] <designbybeck> gggGGGOOOOOOODDDD Monday Morning to you all! (and/or evening)
[14:20] <TheBlade> hi
[14:21] <designbybeck> I'm justing Amarok for the first time!... this thing is amazing
[14:23] <DaemonFC> HFS+ has all the features mandated by POSIX
[14:23] <DaemonFC> but it has its own bugs and legacy issues from the HFS file system it was extended from
[14:24]  * DaemonFC has dealt with HFS before and doesn't see any reason why it should be more trustworthy now than what it was in OS 9 :)
[14:25] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  well , good luck with amarok ..at least it plays the audio , but the playlist setup is awful IME ...doubles triples tiltle lists  ...I've given up on it as a useful tool for listing any music
[14:26] <designbybeck> Banshee and Rythmbox both did that as well
[14:26] <designbybeck> i was just playing with the fact that I could stream from Jamendo
[14:26] <BluesKaj> it's even worse than wmp
[14:26] <designbybeck> although i was using Google Music
[14:26] <GradysGhost> I never liked Amarok, but I rarely use a native player (I use web-based stuff)
[14:26] <DaemonFC> [9:26 am] <BluesKaj> it's even worse than wmp
[14:26] <GradysGhost> I've heard good things about Clementine, though, which is modeled after a classic Amarok version, and has all kinds of crazy features.
[14:26] <DaemonFC> Isn't it wise to not say things you can't take back? :)
[14:26] <designbybeck> yean and I normally use Pandora, so i use the Pithos Linux client
[14:26] <designbybeck> basic but gets the job done
[14:27] <GradysGhost> Like using a Wiimote for input
[14:27] <designbybeck> lol @ DaemonFC
[14:27] <Torpedo_Skyline> g'morning!
[14:28] <BluesKaj> DaemonFC,  I won't take it back ...one can live wmp , with amarok I can't ...it tries to do too much , a simpler more straightforward approach to handling audio files would be best IMO
[14:29] <DaemonFC> BluesKaj: That mentality does get you a Rhythmbox or a Banshee
[14:29] <DaemonFC> there's plenty of media players that don't do anything useful, most of them just happen to be for GNOME
[14:29] <DaemonFC> :)
[14:29] <designbybeck> in Dolphin, can you "fuse" to a remove server
[14:29] <designbybeck> Create a SSH connecting to another server
[14:29] <designbybeck> using dolphin
[14:30] <DaemonFC> I can't stand it when so many people say "ZOMG this software like totally confuses me!" then you get Empathy or Rhythmbox or Firefox or something
[14:30] <DaemonFC> which has been so watered down that I can't even use it anymore
[14:31] <suhas> hello
[14:31] <suhas> i installed fancontrol recently
[14:31] <DaemonFC> it reminds me how the original Windows 95 alpha/beta had three buttons that all separated tasks into a logical workflow order, and so many stupid people took part in their focus groups that they ended up smashing it all together and calling it "Start"
[14:31] <DaemonFC> when you replace everything with one big "DUH" button, count me out
[14:31] <suhas> when i type the command pwmconfig
[14:32] <DaemonFC> I love Amarok :)
[14:32] <suhas> it says you need to be root
[14:32] <designbybeck> BluesKaj:  do you know anything about using SSH in DOlphin?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> DaemonFC,  I just use vlc mostly
[14:32] <suhas> please help
[14:32] <designbybeck> to "fuse" to a remote server?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  are you setting up a network folder ?
[14:32] <designbybeck> i guess that is what it might be
[14:33] <designbybeck> ohp! yep that is it! Thanks BluesKaj
[14:33] <DaemonFC> I might just be an oddball that likes software that does anything I could ever conceivably ask it to do, who knows?
[14:33] <DaemonFC> options exist to account for that (which is why I use KDE)
[14:33] <DaemonFC> :)
[14:33] <designbybeck> It didn't say anything in the help files about it
[14:33] <designbybeck> ..I agree with ya on that one DaemonFC
[14:34] <DaemonFC> having a billion features I'll never use is more forgivable than missing the one or two that I can't get by without
[14:34] <DaemonFC> and the latter is where GNOME/Unity tend to go
[14:34] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  a hint : make sure you have kwalletmamager tutned on or the network fiolder configuration will fail , no matter how many times you enter the the password...you can safely disable it after making the connection
[14:35] <designbybeck> hmmm I guess I did have kwallet turned on because it worked
[14:35] <BluesKaj> disable kwaletmanager that is
[14:35] <designbybeck> kwallet does pop up when i first start my system and i log in there
[14:35] <BluesKaj> ok good
[14:36] <designbybeck> that worked, I'm into my remote test server on Rackspace
[14:36] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  is it truly remote or on your LAN ?
[14:37] <designbybeck> remote
[14:37] <DaemonFC> I about threw a conniption once (when I used GNOME, as they were stripping it of features and beginning to annoy me), and I hit a utility that removed the options I needed to control the naming conventions of the files it put out (which shall remain nameless), but I got to asking about it on Ubuntu Forums and someone suggested that I should stop complaining and....write a shell script to automate the task of reversing the stupid file names this
[14:37] <DaemonFC> thing was generating now :)
[14:37] <BluesKaj> cool
[14:37] <DaemonFC> enough incidents like that just finally led me to say "just give me the most bloated freaking thing that exists, every time"
[14:37] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  so you have a static IP
[14:38] <designbybeck> correct
[14:38] <designbybeck> a domain
[14:38] <BluesKaj> right
[14:38] <designbybeck> it is where i test some of my educational technology stuff
[14:39] <designbybeck> http://mahara.triside.com      http://moodle.triside.com    http://wordpress.triside.com
[14:40] <BluesKaj> I have a family name domain that I pay for every yr , but I still haven't set up a site ...lazy
[14:40] <designbybeck> slap wordpress on there!
[14:40] <designbybeck> you can get it up and running in 10mins or less!
[14:40] <DaemonFC> I had a domain with my name on it and got careless and let it lapse, now it's owned by some spammer that wants me to pay $500 to get it back
[14:41] <DaemonFC> :)
[14:41] <designbybeck> I had a chance to get beck.com years ago..... now the singer Beck has it! :(
[14:41] <designbybeck> shoulda, coulda woulda lol
[14:41] <BluesKaj> slap is something that I don't understand ...it trivializes the difficulty :)
[14:41] <DaemonFC> well, the way WIPO works, you probably would have gotten sued, by Beck
[14:42] <DaemonFC> and they might have stolen your domain name anyway if they decided that the singer was more notable than you
[14:42] <designbybeck> maybe i could have at least held out for a few bucks!
[14:42]  * Mamarok suggest to go back to support...
[14:43] <designbybeck> ah yes
[14:43] <Mamarok> since we have a discussion channel for that :)
[14:43] <BluesKaj> ok guys ...this is getting OT ..back to business , even tho I'm guiltier than most here
[14:43] <designbybeck> Ok so the TexOS project we had this weekend, we were doing clean installs of Kubuntu 11.10 32bit on donated computers
[14:43] <designbybeck> But Muon Software Manager was  crashing. I read there was issues with that
[14:44] <designbybeck> and even asked in here how to fix it. We had the kids run the suggested commands in term, but still Muon was crashing
[14:44] <designbybeck> On my personal laptop and Netbook, I was having that problem and ended up upgrading to KDE 4.8 which seemed to solve some things. Is that the case?
[14:45] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  unfortunately muon is becoming an embarrasment ...I thoink teaching a few simple cli commands to users would be best , rather than frustrate the learners with trying to update/upgrade with muon
[14:45] <DaemonFC> Muon has actually been one of the better decisions Kubuntu has made (You should try using Apper if you think Muon is bad)
[14:46] <designbybeck> After the updates i;ve done on my laptop and netbook, Muon has worked fine
[14:46] <designbybeck> I really want the kids to see the ratings and be able to read up on the item before installing
[14:46] <BluesKaj> DaemonFC,  well, your entitled to your opinion , but lets not go any further ...we have to think about ppl's situations and be practical here
[14:46] <designbybeck> But I do think we will still do more cli installation and management forsure
[14:50] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  I'm not leaving anything to chance , until muon stops crashing and freezing on my pc , I'm not going to advise anyone to use it .
[14:51] <designbybeck> understandable, but what is it doing for you BluesKaj
[14:51] <Peace-> designbybeck: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2012/02/05/alias-apt-with-auto-complete-kde-4-kubuntu/
[14:51] <DaemonFC> that could just be a problem with your video drivers
[14:51] <designbybeck> Peace-:  what is this I'm looking at?
[14:52] <DaemonFC> Qt's effects and AMD Catalyst don't always get along
[14:52] <designbybeck> a script to make shortcuts for installing?
[14:52] <Peace-> designbybeck: muon is a pain ? => create alias => very fast way toupgrade and install
[14:52] <designbybeck> DaemonFC:  AIT and Qt's effects don't either ;)
[14:53] <DaemonFC> Catalyst is less relevant with each advancement of the open source stuff so I don't even care what they do with it now
[14:53] <DaemonFC> I just threw that out there
[14:53] <designbybeck> that is a novel way to do it Peace-
[14:54] <Peace-> as you wish
[14:54] <Peace-> bye
[15:05] <Torpedo_Skyline> Can somone help me with this? http://pastebin.com/ndyKadFq
[15:06] <Torpedo_Skyline> Trying to configure a lamp-server^ install under Kubuntu and I got that error at the bottom. Can't start phpmyadmin from Kickoff.
[15:06] <designbybeck> Hmm, I haven't tried anything like that in Kubuntu Torpedo_Skyline
[15:07] <Torpedo_Skyline> designbybeck: any way to clear that error at the bottom? Kind of strange.
[15:08] <designbybeck> when you say bottom? you mean bottom of what?
[15:08] <Torpedo_Skyline> The bottom of that pastebin that I posted. http://pastebin.com/ndyKadFq
[15:10] <designbybeck> oh gotcha, ok so  i'm not seeing that error
[15:10] <Torpedo_Skyline> on the pastebin?
[15:11] <designbybeck> yeah
[15:11] <mr-rich> Torpedo_Skyline: why not just install what you need for a LAMP stack from moun or apper?
[15:12] <Torpedo_Skyline> mr-rich: I could and probably should. I've always been more comfortable with apt. =\
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[15:12] <designbybeck> just do it in apt then Torpedo_Skyline
[15:12] <designbybeck> that is how i did it on my Ubuntu server
[15:13] <Torpedo_Skyline> designbybeck: I just went sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[15:13] <Torpedo_Skyline> not the best way, I guess?
[15:15] <designbybeck> oh I haven't done it that way
[15:15] <designbybeck> i did each one at a time
[15:15] <Torpedo_Skyline> designbybeck: you did sudo apt-get install php5 mysql-server apache2?
[15:15] <designbybeck> correct
[15:16] <designbybeck> on top of uubntu server 11.10
[15:18] <Torpedo_Skyline> ok, thanks designbybeck. =)
[15:18] <designbybeck> I'm new to server stuff, and just used the other IRC channels for support. I got through it ;)
[15:18] <designbybeck> Good luck
[15:19] <Torpedo_Skyline> thanks. I'm a "kind of" real switcher to Linux. I finally tossed OS X out and MAMP with it. ;)
[15:20] <designbybeck> Welcome to the real world :)
[15:20] <designbybeck> You'll have a lot more power and tools at your finger times
[15:23] <Torpedo_Skyline> oh yeah, designbybeck. No longer using a Fisher-Price toy.
[15:23] <Torpedo_Skyline> I hate lag. XD
[15:23] <Peace-> Torpedo_Skyline: you used osx?
[15:23] <designbybeck> no
[15:23] <designbybeck> My main system is a dell 17 studio laptop
[15:23] <designbybeck> i7, 4GB RAM , 1GB video
[15:24] <Torpedo_Skyline> Peace-: I have.
[15:24] <designbybeck> I just moved over to Kubuntu from Ubuntu a week or so ago
[15:24] <Torpedo_Skyline> Peace-: No longer. I still have it on dual-boot on my MacBook Pro, but my main development machine runs Kubuntu.
[15:25] <Torpedo_Skyline> designbybeck: That's a pretty good system. And goodbye Unity! =P
[15:25] <Peace-> Torpedo_Skyline: oh strange everyone here are tellin osx is the best
[15:25] <designbybeck> "here" as in the this chatroom Peace-?
[15:25] <Torpedo_Skyline> Peace-: if you want to be dictated by some dude in California it is the best.
[15:26] <Peace-> Torpedo_Skyline: xd
[15:26] <Peace-> designbybeck: oh well guys i know
[15:27] <almoxarife> i tossed 'pulseaudio' after deciding to go with plasma, why is it installed by default?
[15:28] <Torpedo_Skyline> the fact that my MacBook Pro had to go and validate itself to Apple to install OSX was retarded. Peace- I still keep OS X on a partition because my sisters use it and love Airdrop.
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[15:30] <TorpedoSkyline> almoxarife: probaby because of Phonon.
[15:31] <Peace->  almoxarife you can  go even without pulse
[15:31] <almoxarife> Peace-: i did go without pulse
[15:32] <Peace-> designbybeck:  anyway you can get the same stuff of ubuntu on kuubnuntu like the bar
[15:32] <Peace-> designbybeck: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/20/plasma-desktopnT1812.png
[15:35] <BluesKaj> almoxarife,  does your webaudio work ok without pulse ?
[15:36] <almoxarife> BluesKaj: yes, i use chromium
[15:36] <designbybeck> that looks like the standarad kmenu bar Peace-
[15:36] <designbybeck> unless that middle part is a luancher or something
[15:36] <BluesKaj> almoxarife,  onboard sound or pci soundcard?
[15:37] <almoxarife> BluesKaj: onboard
[15:37] <designbybeck> Peace-: I've moved my bar to the top as well
[15:38] <Peace-> designbybeck: you can have what you want => http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/20/plasma-desktopqv1812.png
[15:38] <BluesKaj> ok almoxarife , thqanks , I'm curious because my onbaord sound works without pulse , but my pci soundcard needs pulse for all my audio
[15:38] <almoxarife> BluesKaj: the only thing that i had to do was resolve issues associated with apps pointing to pulse
[15:38] <designbybeck> ah! Cool, I haven't seen that
[15:39] <almoxarife> BluesKaj: you would think the pci card would be satisfied with 'alsa'
[15:39] <designbybeck> Oh i'm guessing you installed a few other things Peace-  I only have default and empty
[15:39] <Peace-> designbybeck: xD well yes
[15:39] <designbybeck> Peace-: where is that option at? to add more panel types?
[15:40] <Peace-> designbybeck: well you need to install some stuff
[15:40] <Peace-> you can isntall it locally only for your user or globally
[15:40] <BluesKaj> almor well it was for the audio on the hdd , but not webaudio, which i could live with , but after some updates and upgrades my pci now needs pulse for everything
[15:40] <BluesKaj> almoxarife, ^
[15:41] <Peace-> designbybeck: read here , if you have problem just ask .... i did that stuff http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Plasma+Panels+Collection+?content=147589
[15:41] <almoxarife> http://imagebin.org/199817 <-- mine
[15:42] <BluesKaj> altho I just use the pcm out to my audio receiver including the DD DTS audio , which are enabled in pavucontrol , quite handy actaully
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[15:50] <designbybeck> Anyone know if it is possible to setup Micro$oft Exchange in Kubuntu?
[15:50] <designbybeck> connect to a Exchnage 2008 email server
[15:52] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  wine?
[15:52] <designbybeck> naaa
[15:52] <BluesKaj> :)
[15:53] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  what about smb ?
[15:53] <designbybeck> nope
[15:53] <designbybeck> i think you use to could back with exhange 2003
[15:53] <designbybeck> with with exhange server 2008 it will no except any other client but a microsoft client
[15:55] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  check out Zimbra
[15:55] <BluesKaj> !Zimbra
[15:56] <BluesKaj> !info Zimbra
[15:56] <ubottu> Package Zimbra does not exist in oneiric
[15:57] <designbybeck> *sigh* oh well. I've had to use the web client for Outlook Web Access for Microsoft for 3 years now
[15:57] <designbybeck> but that is a microsoft exahnge issue not a Linux issuse
[15:58] <BluesKaj> zimbra is avmware app ..probly expensive
[15:58] <BluesKaj> http://www.zimbra.com/products/whats_new.html
[16:02] <BluesKaj> designbybeck, http://ipcommunications.tmcnet.com/topics/ip-communications/articles/41727-zimbra-extends-compatibility-with-microsoft-exchange.htm
[16:02] <designbybeck> BluesKaj:  that is still the old 2003 that it works with
[16:03] <BluesKaj> ok
[16:13] <designbybeck> i just downloaded a .rar file
[16:13] <designbybeck> I tried to right click on it and go to "Extract Here"
[16:13] <designbybeck> "Failed to Locate Porgram unrar in PATH?
[16:14] <designbybeck> any idea? Anyone use 7ZIP with Kubuntu?
[16:14] <TorpedoSkyline> designbybeck: you don't use ARK?
[16:15] <designbybeck> my setup is pretty stock right now
[16:15] <designbybeck> i haven't installed any other utilities for Kubuntu/KDE right now
[16:15] <designbybeck> but i would think the default should work?
[16:15] <TorpedoSkyline> designbybeck: Ark comes with Kubuntu and extracts .rar
[16:16] <TorpedoSkyline> designbybeck: it should... =\.
[16:16] <designbybeck> it gives that error
[16:21] <designbybeck> Hmmm looks like i had to do a 'sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[16:21] <designbybeck> but that worked
[16:22] <TorpedoSkyline> hmm, weird. Must have gotten removed somehow. o.O
[16:24] <BluesKaj> designbybeck, try unp , it's a cli app but it works on all compressed filetypes that I know of
[16:25] <designbybeck> i got it to work but installin rar unrar
[16:25] <designbybeck> even though it was suppose to be installed already
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[17:02] <designbybeck> I just realized my media keys on my keyboard, do in fact show that the volume isgoing down on screen, but do not physically make the audio get quit
[17:02] <designbybeck> any ideas why?
[17:03] <designbybeck> Hmmm.. I guess I figured it out, my HDMI port was selected as the "master"
[17:03] <designbybeck> i didn't think that mattered because I thought they system sound overwrote everything else
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[17:55] <ScottyK> greetings! What KDE program do you recommend to edit MP3's to use as ringtones?
[18:04] <rtdos> can any one tell me why some games load and some games don't? is it a permission issue? nethack for example won't load.
[18:07] <Pici> nethack won't load?! thats a serious issue.  Kidding aside, what do you mean by 'wont load' are you getting an error?
[18:08] <rtdos> no, when i click on the menu shortcut i get the bouncy cursor thing and that's all i get. when i type in nethack in the command line the prompt pauses for a minute and then returns a normal prompt.
[18:09] <rtdos> i tried cleaning out any cache files in my /home/user directory (but can't find any related to nethack or other games that won't load).
[18:09] <Pici> rtdos: Any other games or programs that won't load?
[18:09] <rtdos> glhack won't load either
[18:09] <rtdos> egoboo (spelling?)
[18:10] <rtdos> balazar
[18:10] <rtdos> seems to be mostly game related :-\
[18:11] <Sentynel> rtdos: do you have different nethack frontends installed? (e.g., nethack-console, nethack-qt) and if so do all fail to start or just some?
[18:12] <rtdos> all
[18:12] <rtdos> i've tried uninstalling some and reinstalling others but to no avail.
[18:12] <rtdos> seems to be an issues only with anything that is a game.
[18:12] <rtdos> i am a member of the games group
[18:17] <rtdos> i just tried loading the game "Out of Order" and it too appears to load and then nothing.
[18:17] <rtdos> this only seems to happen with the games on my system as I have not come across it with any other programs.
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[18:30] <BluesKaj> rtdos , try typing the game name in the konsole , and check the resultant output in pastebin
[18:31] <BluesKaj> err paste the output rather
[18:39] <rtdos> OK
[18:39] <rtdos> one question: would there be a reason some programs take longer to load than others, such as Konsole?
[18:41] <BluesKaj> konsole =terminal
[18:41] <BluesKaj> it should load immediately , rtdos
[18:42] <rtdos> BluesKaj, doesn't. can't even load egoboo through the command line. nothing comes up on the command line either.
[18:42] <BluesKaj> rtdos,  what about videos ,do they play ok ?
[18:43] <rtdos> yes. they play fine. even play a dvd with no problems.
[18:43] <rtdos> some programs take a few more seconds than usual to load but it's mostly games that won't load at all.
[18:44] <rtdos> i even disabled the backgrounded search and index program (neposomething)
[18:47] <rtdos> (all this is from a fresh install of Kubuntu, too)
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[19:15] <ronnoc> Kubuntu needs a promo team now that it's a community distro. Having it be a part of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/marketing is not sufficient. Thoughts? I'm willing to help.
[19:16] <rtdos> now dolphin is taking a while to load, :-(
[19:16] <rtdos> what the hecks going on?
[19:16] <rtdos> this is a fresh install.
[19:16] <rtdos> no (known) hardware issues.
[19:25] <Daskreech> ronnoc: Sure :) hop into #kubuntu-devel and ask for ninja gear
[19:26] <Daskreech> rtdos: whats going on?
[19:27] <rtdos> idaknow. i have a fresh install of kubuntu on this laptop but some programs seems to take longer than usual to load (dolphin and konsole for example) and some (mostly games) won't load at all.
[19:28] <ronnoc> Daskreech: Sure! Will do shortly. Thanks!
[19:34] <rtdos> Daskreech - even went so far as to disable the background indexing program (nanosomething) that was using over 50% CPU
[19:35] <BluesKaj> rtdos,  akonadi ?
[19:35] <rtdos> have that disabled too BluesKaj
[19:36] <BluesKaj> disable nepomuk in stratup&shutdoen
[19:36]  * BluesKaj cleans the KB
[19:41] <rtdos> yes, that was the neposomething i disabled. :)
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[19:44] <Daskreech> rtdos: :) what's going on I missed the first complaints
[19:46] <rtdos> some programs (such as dolphin, konsole) seem to take a while longer to load than what i'm used to. but others (mostly its the games) won't load at all. i don't have this "won't load" issue with anything else other than games.
[19:46] <BluesKaj> rtdos,  I have to ask , have you updated/upgraded since the install ?
[19:47] <rtdos> yes.
[19:47] <rtdos> right now i'm trying to load user management applet(?) from the system control panel and it took nearly 30 seconds to load.
[19:47] <BluesKaj> lately ?
[19:47] <rtdos> yes.
[19:47] <BluesKaj> muon or cli ?
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[19:51] <Daskreech> rtdos: Did you try run them from the konsole?
[19:52] <rtdos> yep. don't get the usual console full of text messages. the prompt pauses for a minute and then get a blank prompt again.
[19:52] <rtdos> i'm thinking it might be a permission issue ?
[19:53] <rtdos> i am a member of the "Games" group
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[19:55] <BluesKaj> rtdos,  open system monitor , check for muon
[19:56] <rtdos> ps -e | grep 'muon' found nothing.
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[19:59] <rtdos> *BRB* going to run fsck (for kicks)
[20:04] <Daskreech> :)
[20:04] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: what are you looking for?
[20:07] <BluesKaj> muon is hanging in some cases during updates, and freezes unless a reboot takes it down , Daskreech
[20:09] <Daskreech> Oh that's not good
[20:10] <JontheEchidna> well, you can kill it with "killall muon"
[20:11] <JontheEchidna> anyway, that should be fixed in 1.2.3
[20:11] <JontheEchidna> https://launchpad.net/~echidnaman/+archive/qapt/
[20:11] <JontheEchidna> BluesKaj, Daskreech^
[20:11] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, just a thought ...saw it happen yesterday ..slowed everything down ..muon works after upgrade and dist-upgrade in the cli , but if muon is used to upgrade then that's where the problem starts ...the upgrade fixes muon
[20:12] <BluesKaj> the cli upgrade fixes muon as long as it hasn't been started
[20:12] <BluesKaj> hey JontheEchidna
[20:17] <rtdos> nope. fsck came out clean.
[20:18] <rtdos> nope. fsck came out clean.
[20:18] <Daskreech> JontheEchidna: \o/ hooray :)
[20:19] <Daskreech> Can Muon do a grep through the upgrades and do a selective upgrade of Muon first?
[20:19] <excognac> hello
[20:20] <excognac> How do I make sure that my very partioned HD doesn't have any errors defects before repartioning it?
[20:21] <BluesKaj> excognac,  burn gparted to a cd and run it to check each partition for errors
[20:22] <excognac> Bluskaj: or I can use it from a livecd, right?
[20:22] <BluesKaj> usually any bad sectors will be marked to ignore
[20:23] <BluesKaj> yes excognac , exactly
[20:23] <excognac> BluesKaj: ok, thx.
[20:26] <rtdos> is it possible to create a temporary 'guest' account so that when the user logs out what ever he saved is deleted or removed and the next 'guest' to login has a 'clean slate' ?
[20:27] <Daskreech> Yes
[20:29] <rtdos> how? not just by adding a 'guest' account through user accounts, correct?
[21:04] <vadi2> Is there a recommendation Qt 4.8 PPA?
[21:12] <Snowhog> rtdos: Take a look at the package guest-session. It isn't the same as the Ubuntu Guest Session, in that it is 'launched' from an existing login session, but...
[21:13] <rtdos> can i find it under synaptic?
[21:20] <rtdos> i see gdm-guest-session under synaptic but it won't work with kdm will it?
[21:34] <Snowhog> rtdos: It's listed when I search for it:  guest-session   What version of Kubuntu are you running?
[21:36] <Snowhog> rtdos: Ooops! My bad! You are right - it's gdm-guest-session.
[21:43] <tex> ciao a tutti
[21:48] <rtdos> Snowhog - how can i change from kdm to gdm display manager?
[21:49] <shadeslayer> rtdos: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[21:50] <shadeslayer> and then choose one ;)
[21:50] <rtdos> thx.
[21:51] <laMela87> ciao a tutti
[21:51] <licensed> great post i was searching for this http://ubuntuku.org/16/how-to-disable-nepomuk-akonadi/
[21:51] <laMela87> qualcuno sa darmi delle info su kubuntu?
[21:51] <laMela87> gentilmente;)
[21:51] <Pici> !it
[21:51] <ubottu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[21:52] <laMela87> soory
[21:52] <laMela87> sorry
[21:52] <laMela87> someone who could give me some information about kubuntu?
[21:52] <shadeslayer> laMela87: shoot
[21:53] <laMela87> i've a vaio and i've some problems with the touchpad
[21:53] <laMela87> the scrolling with syaptic doesn't work
[21:53] <shadeslayer> laMela87: press Alt+F2 and type systemsettings
[21:54] <laMela87> now i solved this problem whit the disable of synaptic
[21:54] <shadeslayer> oh
[21:54] <laMela87> i try to able the scrolling with two finger like in the mac but i can't
[21:55] <designbybeck> Problem! ... Did a new Kubuntu 11.10 64bit on an Xeon quad core , 4GB ram system
[21:55] <laMela87> kubuntu 11.10 is very nice but a lot of problem
[21:55] <designbybeck> install went fine,
[21:55] <designbybeck> Did an upgrade to KDE 4.8
[21:55] <designbybeck> that seemed to go ok
[21:55] <shadeslayer> laMela87: thats weird, I have a mac and 2 finger scrolling works just fine
[21:55] <laMela87> yeh i've a mac too
[21:55] <shadeslayer> laMela87: 8,2 ?
[21:55] <designbybeck> after restart that system is very laggy now, some Windows I can click on just fine and they pull up active. but i can't click on anything with it
[21:55] <designbybeck> Same with the kMenu
[21:56] <laMela87> but i want to improve the use of linux because i'm a computer engineering
[21:56] <designbybeck> I tried to go to a tty and do some updates there didn't apper to be any others
[21:56] <laMela87> shadeslayer what 8,2?
[21:56] <shadeslayer> designbybeck: possibly buggy video drivers? What video card are you using?
[21:57] <designbybeck> I'm not sure actually
[21:57] <shadeslayer> laMela87: thats the model of the MBP. Do you have the 13" Model or the 15" one or the 17" one?
[21:57] <laMela87> designbyeback the videocard is ATI?
[21:57] <designbybeck> i think it is an NVIDIA, but I haven't done any propreitary software installs yet shadeslayer
[21:58] <laMela87> shadeslayer: 13'' white
[21:58] <shadeslayer> designbybeck: ah, I'd suggest trying out the proprietary drivers then  :)
[21:58] <designbybeck> it is just odd because everything up until i did the 4.8 updated seemed ok
[21:58] <designbybeck> , but i'll see if it has those drivers
[22:00] <laMela87> design i had problems with the video card, you ave to install the proprietary driver.
[22:01] <shadeslayer> laMela87: please try configuring the touchpad via systemsettings
[22:01] <shadeslayer> you can try to enable/disable it there and see if its working
[22:02] <laMela87> shade now if i try to open system settings/touchpad he says: no touchpad found
[22:02] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[22:03] <shadeslayer> laMela87: what year was your mbp manfactured in? 2011?
[22:03] <designbybeck> shadeslayer:  i switched to a different tty and did a lspci | grep VGA
[22:04] <designbybeck> i found that it is a Nvidia 6400
[22:04] <shadeslayer> okay
[22:04] <shadeslayer> designbybeck: press Alt+F2 and type : jockey-kde
[22:04] <laMela87> no shade my macbook has lion. Kubuntu is installed on my vaio
[22:04] <shadeslayer> and it should find and install the right drivers
[22:04] <shadeslayer> oh
[22:04] <laMela87> iv'done done thei today merci mon cher marie! :) Je vous souhaite un avenir plein d'amis et de rustiques! Rendez-vous dimanche! Un gros bisou! ;)
[22:04] <rtdos> Snowhog: worked. now i have guest-session but now i have 3 additional accounts that are apparently running in the background, hold on i'll log out and back in to list them.
[22:04] <laMela87> sorry i've done a mistake
[22:05] <designbybeck> it doesn't seem to be taking my keystrokes shadeslayer
[22:05] <laMela87> sudo rmmod psmouse
[22:05] <laMela87> E poi ho lanciato sempre da shell
[22:05] <laMela87> Codice:
[22:05] <laMela87> sudo modprobe psmouse proto=imps
[22:05] <laMela87> a questo punto lo scroll ha iniziato a funzionare alla perfezione.
[22:05] <FloodBotK1> laMela87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:05] <laMela87> La guida dice se così non dovesse funzionare sostituire a proto=imps la dicitura proto=exps
[22:05] <designbybeck> if i restart and get to the login, i can type in username and password just fine
[22:05] <designbybeck> but now that I'm in, it does'n't let me type
[22:06] <laMela87> sorry
[22:06] <shadeslayer> uhh, guys I have to go and sleep .. but ...
[22:06] <shadeslayer> designbybeck: try jockey-kde in a terminal
[22:06] <laMela87> now it works
[22:06] <designbybeck> can i do that in a tty?
[22:06] <shadeslayer> laMela87: Find a way to find out your touchpad make and model
[22:06] <laMela87> ok tnx shade..;)
[22:06] <shadeslayer> designbybeck: no you need X for it, altho there is a command line tool as well
[22:07] <laMela87> goodnight
[22:07] <shadeslayer> laMela87: if you don't get a answer here you can also ask in #ubuntu
[22:07] <shadeslayer> but make sure you find out the touchpad model
[22:07] <laMela87> tnx...;)
[22:07] <shadeslayer> aha
[22:08] <shadeslayer> designbybeck: jockey-text
[22:08] <shadeslayer> designbybeck: see jockey-text --help for usage
[22:08] <shadeslayer> okay gtg, night
[22:10] <designbybeck> shadeslayer: I found out that it was doing the commands, but not refreshing/redrawing the screen SO i kept pressing alt+tab and i could see the addtional drivers box
[22:10] <designbybeck> was able, with alt+tabin' to try to activate the toher driver
[22:11] <designbybeck> which one though? current-update or 173 release
[22:11] <designbybeck> post release?
[22:15] <Jensit> Heyho... i just installed kubuntu, but my second.monitor is not working... nee doesnt sven recognize it:/
[22:18] <Jensit> Prob solved
[22:22] <rtdos> Snowhog: ok, since I switched from KDM to GDM I now have the following accounts (and all say they are logged in): syslog, usbmux daemon, kdm, ejabberd, mythtv, nobody.  Is there anyway to remove these accounts?
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[22:33] <matze> heyho
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[22:33] <pxc> so is GPT partitioning now the only kind supported by the Kubuntu installer?
[22:34] <Jensit> got a problem with my second monitor... i cant save the xorg.conf file =/
[22:39] <DaemonFC> pxc: I doubt it. Fedora had some documentation for their system that said the kernel boot parameter nogpt when you boot the live CD would go back to MBR partitioning there
[22:39] <DaemonFC> but I have no idea if that works in Kubuntu
[22:40] <DaemonFC> (My BIOS knows what GPT is so I haven't had to care)
[22:41] <DaemonFC> technically, there's nothing to stop you from using GPT partitioning and mark the MBR as executable, except that that goes against the EFI specification and some BIOSes would not know what to do
[22:41] <rtdos> ok, since I switched from KDM to GDM I now have the following accounts (and all say they are logged in): syslog, usbmux daemon, kdm, ejabberd, mythtv, nobody.  Is there anyway to remove these accounts? or should i just disable them?
[22:41] <DaemonFC> Whether or not a BIOS understands GPT labels or not is, iffy, since it was never a requirement, but in practice many recent ones do
[22:42] <pxc> DaemonFC, yeah... On Friday I tried to do a Kubuntu install on a UEFI-compatible system (although at first UEFI booting was disabled; it was in legacy mode)
[22:42] <pxc> and it just went terribly
[22:42] <DaemonFC> if you use EFI with a BIOS compatibility module, you'll be much happier
[22:42] <pxc> grub-gpt's legacy mode (with that grub-bios partition type, which I had never heard of and totally threw me off) did nothing
[22:42] <DaemonFC> assuming that's an option with yours
[22:42] <DaemonFC> exposing it as uEFI can cause problems, even with Windows
[22:43] <pxc> Well, that was another problem. They wanted to dual-boot it with Vista, and Vista can't handle UEFI
[22:43] <DaemonFC> the BIOS compatibility module just exposes the uEFI firmware to the OS as if it was any other BIOS
[22:43] <pxc> here's the weird thing
[22:43] <DaemonFC> you *could* boot DOS with that
[22:44] <pxc> even when BIOS compatibility was enabled, Kubuntu still tried to use GPT partitioning, and *its* grub-bios legacy compatibility layer didn't work with the chipsets BIOS emulation
[22:44] <pxc> so it just wouldn't boot
[22:44] <pxc> I had to *manually* create an msdos partition label so grub would install the old-fashioned way
[22:44] <DaemonFC> that is....insane
[22:44] <DaemonFC> but, that's normal with BIOS/EFI
[22:44] <DaemonFC> :)
[22:44] <pxc> and then boot with BIOS compatibility inabled
[22:44] <pxc> *enabled
[22:45] <pxc> and I had to manually set up the partitions, because the ‘guided partition setup’ only gives you the option to use whole disk
[22:45] <pxc> in which case it replaces the whole filesystem table with a new, shiny GPT one. Which is apparently unbootable anyway, in some cases
[22:45] <pxc> do you know if Kubuntu uses GPT/UEFI settings by default, or if it just detected his chipset as ‘compatible’ and rolled with that, even though it was in BIOS compatibility mode at the time?
[22:46] <DaemonFC> well, I am using 12.04 right now and it gave me GPT
[22:46] <DaemonFC> I have no idea what earlier releases were doing
[22:46] <pxc> this was 11.10
[22:46] <pxc> apparently 11.04 had the same problem
[22:46] <DasKreech> Jensit: where are you saving the file?
[22:47] <rtdos> ok, since I switched from KDM to GDM I now have the following accounts (and all say they are logged in): syslog, usbmux daemon, kdm, ejabberd, mythtv, nobody.  Is there anyway to remove these accounts?
[22:47] <DasKreech> rtdos: Why do you want to delete the accounts?
[22:47] <rtdos> or at least disable them?
[22:48] <Jensit> DasKreech: Nvidia settings
[22:48] <DasKreech> Jensit: That's a place?
[22:48] <Jensit> default place
[22:48] <Jensit> DasKreech: mom
[22:49]  * DasKreech hasn't used nvidia or nvidia settings. Indulge me
[22:49] <Jensit> DasKreech: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:50] <DasKreech> Jensit: What's the error for saving it?
[22:50] <Jensit> Unable to open X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' for writing.
[22:50] <rtdos> DasKreech: maybe not delete them but disable them? aren't they taking up resources running in the background like that?
[22:54] <Jensit> DasKreech: Unable to open X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' for writing.
[22:54] <viKtor__> hey guys what's the kde app for scan documents?
[22:56] <DasKreech> Jensit: try sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bkup.$(date +%d%m%Y)
[22:56] <DasKreech> !info skanlite | viKtor__
[22:56] <ubottu> viKtor__: skanlite (source: skanlite): image scanner for KDE 4 based on the KSane backend. In component main, is extra. Version 0.7-2ubuntu3 (oneiric), package size 1079 kB, installed size 1504 kB
[22:56] <DasKreech> rtdos: No they are keeping the system running
[22:56] <DasKreech> Other them MythTV I presume you installed that
[22:57] <Jensit> DasKreech: same error =/
[22:58] <viKtor__> DasKreech: thanks!
[22:58] <DasKreech> Jensit: what' the error from the sudo mv ?
[22:58] <Jensit> DasKreech: no error.... mv worked... but saving not =/
[22:59] <pxc> rtdos, you don't want to disable or delete those accounts. They are used for permissions handling on system services. They don't chew up extra resources, and deleting them will reduce the security of your system and possibly break some system services
[22:59] <DasKreech> Jensit: How are you running the nvidia settings ?
[22:59] <Jensit> DasKreech: tried with sudo out of a terminal and normal
[22:59] <DasKreech> rtdos: Some ofthose are made to only specifically do very few things. The system only expects them to do it
[23:00] <pxc> rtdos, there may be an option for GDM not to show ‘system’ accounts in the login list, and that's really what you would want to do
[23:00] <Jensit> DasKreech: same error
[23:00] <DasKreech> Jensit: try sudo -i
[23:00] <rtdos> where would i find that?
[23:00] <viKtor__> DasKreech: but it can't save as pdf :S that's weird :S
[23:01] <pxc> rtdos: I don't know; I don't use GDM. :-P
[23:01] <pxc> I'll see if I can find something about it for you, but meanwhile give the docs a perusing yourself :-)
[23:01] <Jensit> DasKreech: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bkup.$(date +%d%m%Y)
[23:01] <Jensit> DasKreech: ERROR: The control display is undefined; please run `nvidia-settings --help` for usage information.
[23:01] <Jensit> sry
[23:01] <pxc> rtdos: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2471/how-to-hide-users-from-the-login-screen
[23:02] <rtdos> pxc: i normally use kdm, since i'm needing temp access to a guest session i'm using gdm at the moment so my gdm knowledge is a bit rusty. :)
[23:03] <pxc> You should be able to open a guest session on KDM, right? or is it that you already have an instance of KDM running or what? You can definitely open multiple sessions using KDM
[23:03] <rtdos> haven't figured out how to open a guest session under kdm. closet i could find was gdm-guest-session
[23:03] <rtdos> ...and found that under synaptic package manager
[23:04] <pxc> from an existing KDE session, hit alt+f2 to bring up KRunner, and type ‘new session’
[23:05] <pxc> you may need to enable the ‘desktop session’ krunner plugin if it isn't already running
[23:05] <DasKreech> pxc: Far as I know you can't do guest access from KDM
[23:07] <DasKreech> Jensit: hmm ok nvidia-settings is a gui Tool?
[23:07] <pxc> is guest access logging in through a guest account, or what does it mean specifically?
[23:07] <Jensit> DasKreech: yes
[23:07] <DasKreech> Jensit: try alt+f2 -> kdesudo nvidia-settings
[23:08] <rtdos> pxc: logging in through a temporary-guest account. then when the user logs out everything is deleted.
[23:10] <rtdos> pxc: gdm-guest-session does exactly that.
[23:10] <DasKreech> rtdos: you could make a guest account ( should already exist) and set it's logout option to wipe the ~ and copy back skel
[23:12] <rtdos> DasKreech how? i've googled but only answers i come up with are gdm related.
[23:12] <Jensit> DasKreech: same error
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[23:15]  * rtdos is really starting to lose faith in google. :-P
[23:15] <pxc> rtdos, I guess there is no equivalent for KDM. It seems like you'd have to make a real guest account and do something like DasKreech is describing
[23:16] <rtdos> pxc: where would i find out log out options to wipe the ~ and copy back the skel ? under system settings?
[23:18] <mrafcho001_> anyone know when VLC 2.0 is coming to Kubuntu (without adding various PPAs)?
[23:19] <pxc> rtdos, there's a .bash_logout file, but I don't think that's quite what we need here. It's along that trail, though
[23:19] <pxc> rtdos, there's this: http://osr507doc.sco.com/en/OSUserG/_How_to_add_a_logout_script.html
[23:19] <rtdos> pxc: agreed. because we want it only for the guest account and not other accounts.
[23:19] <rtdos> looking at it now.
[23:20] <pxc> but more realistically, we would want to have it run on login rather than logout. Because if it's only done on logout, a user could log in, make changes, shut down the computer with a hard shutdown, and then log back in with their settings saved
[23:21] <pxc> you can do it by changing the user's login shell, perhaps
[23:22] <DasKreech> rtdos: there is a ~/.bash_logout also a kdelogout script either would work if all you have is KDE on the machine
[23:22] <DasKreech> pxc: :) Yeah that's smart I suppose
[23:23] <rtdos> DasKreech: just have it wipe the ~ directory without remove the .bash_login script?
[23:23] <rtdos> *removing
[23:24] <DasKreech> yeah it won't remove any ~/.$files unless you say so
[23:28] <rtdos> so isn't there a way to remove any and all ~/.$files except ~/.bash_login by using grep, correct? obviously it can't remove its own file?
[23:29] <gomiboy> yes, the running script can remove itself
[23:29] <rtdos> scary!
[23:31] <gomiboy> you can even delete a video you are watching and keep watching it, this is a multi user os, not that fake multi user windowz :P
[23:33] <pxc> rtdos, ‘grep -v’ reverses the grep behavior. You can use it to grab everything *except* what matches the pattern you want
[23:33] <rtdos> oh so exclude ~/.bash_login ? but would i need to keep a ~/.bash_logout file in place ?
[23:34] <rtdos> but will this screw up kde or whatever desktop i happen to be running at the moment?
[23:35] <pxc> not really. if you wanted to, you could have the $HOME directory of this guy cleared at both login and logout, so you could save .bash_logout as well. But you shouldn't need both
[23:35] <rtdos> ok. i get back here shortly with a script.
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[23:40] <sharpspear> anyone got a minute?
[23:46] <mrafcho001_> sharpspear: You might have better luck if you just ask your question
[23:47] <Scunizi> amarok is chewing 50% of my cpu.. even without playing anything..
[23:48] <ronnoc> Scunizi: Disable all Add-ons / scripts and then check CPU. It might be a rogue script.
[23:50] <ronnoc> Scunizi: I have Amarok open all day with all scripts ticked to "on", plus Moodbar, playing a 1,000+ song playlist and my CPU goes from 3-5% for Amarok, so something's wrong with yours somewhere.
[23:52] <ubuntu> hello all. How could I achive during partitioning and reinstall No such partition and grub rescue prompt?
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[23:52] <excognac> I am asking it
[23:54] <pxc> excognac, I don't understand what you are asking :-(