2012/02/13/#ubuntu-community-team.txt

[00:21] <jono> hey everyone
[00:22] <cjohnston> hi
[00:22] <popey> yo
[00:22] <cjohnston> /33/
[00:22] <popey>  /45/
[00:23] <pangolin> HIKE
[00:23] <popey> bah
[00:23] <popey>  /78/ was the correct response
[00:23] <popey> young-uns
[00:23]  * popey goes to bed
[00:30] <pangolin> night
[03:48] <bkerensa> akgraner: Do we know who works on the Ubuntu Friendly team?
[03:49] <cprofitt> Ara I think
[03:49] <cprofitt> https://launchpad.net/~apulido
[03:50] <akgraner> bkerensa, yes we do -
[03:50] <cprofitt> not sure of any others
[03:50] <cprofitt> hey akgraner
[03:50] <akgraner> bkerensa, what do you need to know that's Victor's team - what's up?
[03:50] <akgraner> cprofitt, hey
[03:51] <bkerensa> akgraner: Were considering doing some Ubuntu Friendly testing at our Global Jam in addition to Ubuntu and Debian bug fixing
[03:51] <bkerensa> ;)
[03:51] <bkerensa> so we wanted a list of stuff we will need
[03:51] <akgraner> oh cool  - it's easy
[03:52] <cprofitt> yeah...
[03:52] <akgraner> look in the dash at system testing
[03:52] <bkerensa> k
[03:52] <cprofitt> I think you can do the testing with a CD or flashdrive boot
[03:52] <akgraner> and that's all you need to do
[03:52] <akgraner> :-)
[03:52] <cprofitt> if I remember the con call
[03:52] <akgraner> yep you can
[03:53] <cprofitt> alright... I gotta get some sleep
[03:53] <akgraner> night cprofitt
[03:53] <cprofitt> have a great night all
[03:53] <akgraner> bkerensa, I have a slide deck somewhere about Ubuntu Friendly - as I demo'd it for a LUG meeting
[03:53] <akgraner> I'll send it to you this week
[03:54] <akgraner> but basically if you just go through the 'system testing' you'll know what to do - but if you have questions about it - join #ubuntu-testing or shoot me an email and I'll help you out as well
[03:56] <akgraner> bkerensa, give me til Friday to get you the slidedeck - I have a couple things I need to do this week but bug me if I don't have it to you by Friday ( I need to send it to Victor as well :-/)
[04:28] <nigelb> Its an akgraner! :)
[04:29] <akgraner> nigelb, hey you!
[04:29] <nigelb> o/
[04:29] <nigelb> How was LC?
[04:32] <akgraner> awesome and busy
[04:32] <akgraner> and I can flash SD drives and install all kinds of things on our member boards now - woot woot :-)
[04:33] <nigelb> \o/
[04:33] <nigelb> so do we call you ARM geek now?
[04:33] <akgraner> nigelb, haha
[04:34] <akgraner> we also demo's Ubuntu TV on ARM  (PandaBoard) and that was popular as well as an XBMC demo on Snowball. Was pretty cool - video will be out over the next few weeks of all our demos
[04:35] <nigelb> *whee*
[04:35] <akgraner> s/demo's/demo'd
[04:35] <mhall119> akgraner: how was the performance of the TV on the pandaboard?
[04:35] <akgraner> awesome :-)
[04:36] <akgraner> gotta luv those boxee remotes too :-)
[04:36]  * mhall119 gotta get one to love
[04:36] <akgraner> our android team had 10 demos on 5 boards
[04:37] <akgraner> they demo's various games running on ICS
[04:37] <akgraner> dang it - demo'd
[04:37] <mhall119> I saw someone post an image of a quad-core A9
[04:37] <akgraner> yep
[04:37] <akgraner> I'll be posting pics tonight hopefully
[04:37] <mhall119> some nice hardware starting to come out
[04:38] <akgraner> totally - I'm excited
[04:38] <mhall119> I'm jealous
[04:38] <akgraner> why?
[04:38] <mhall119> because I don't have any :(
[04:38] <akgraner> ahhh
[04:38] <mhall119> I wish I had more time for hardware-hacking
[04:40] <nigelb> mhall119: me too.
[04:40] <nigelb> I really want to hack on ARM or arduino.
[04:50] <cjohnston> I learned how to use my Beagle enough to know I want a newer board too
[04:51] <akgraner> cjohnston,  :-)
[04:51] <akgraner> cjohnston, nooo - I got a plan for you and that BeagleBoard :-P (just kidding)
[04:52] <cjohnston> uh oh
[04:52] <cjohnston> for some reason, i dont think your actually kidding
[04:52] <cjohnston> akgraner: if it was running ICS it would be cooler.. I think I have alot of work to get it to ICS
[04:53] <akgraner> are you running the Ubuntu LEB on it now?
[04:54] <cjohnston> ya..
[04:54] <cjohnston> it was ok
[04:54] <cjohnston> very slow sd card
[04:55] <akgraner> cjohnston, gotcha - let me send you some info tomorrow - see what we can do about that
[04:55] <cjohnston> ok
[04:55] <cjohnston> I'm gonna try to work with Ash on ICS
[04:56] <pleia2> ICS even on production devices is a bit special sometimes :\
[04:56] <akgraner> pleia2, you are so nice using the word "special" painful is what I would use :-)
[04:57] <pleia2> hehe
[04:57] <pleia2> it's actually not /that/ bad on my phone now that 4.0.3 is out
[04:57] <pleia2> was pretty battery draining and crashy earlier
[04:57] <cjohnston> I want ICS on my phone
[04:58] <akgraner> what do you have on it now
[04:59] <cjohnston> 2.3.4
[05:00] <akgraner> yeah people teased me b/c I don't have it on my phone either - but whatever, I said I have it on an SD card...
[05:00] <cjohnston> i would put it on my phone if it was in the neighborhood of easy
[05:01] <pleia2> mine isn't due to any geek cred, I have a Nexus S that got it OTA
[05:01] <cjohnston> blah blah blah
[05:04] <akgraner> cjohnston, have you recovered from Connect
[05:04] <pleia2> cjohnston: home yet, or enjoying LA still?
[05:04] <akgraner> I have a cold now - I slept for half the day today...
[05:04] <cjohnston> akgraner: im in cali still
[05:05] <akgraner> pleia2, ^^
[05:05] <pleia2> :)
[05:05] <cjohnston> ill be home at 410est tomorrow
[05:06] <akgraner> I wanted to stay for ELC and ABS but sadly I didn't get to this year
[05:06] <akgraner> Pete accused me of being an event junkie :-/ and in need of intervention
[05:07] <pleia2> I had to get over events really quick living out here, there is so much all the time
[05:07] <pleia2> end up with event hangover :)
[05:07] <pleia2> it stops being fun
[05:09] <akgraner> I can see how that happens
[05:16] <nigelb> pleia2: event hangovers - I go through that every month :(
[05:16] <nigelb> Perils of working as a conference organizers.
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[07:46] <dholbach> good morning
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[08:17] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:26] <bkerensa> heh
[08:26] <bkerensa> akgraner: You have to go to OSCON sometime... Its the Grammy's of FOSS
[08:26] <bkerensa> :)
[11:03] <nigelb> planned maintenance
[12:54] <mhall119> thanks dholbach
[12:54] <dholbach> :)
[13:54] <jcastro> hey mhall119
[13:55] <jcastro> don't we want the Loco IRC to point to #locoteams?
[13:55] <mhall119> jcastro: global jam is community-wide
[13:56] <jcastro> I get that
[13:56] <mhall119> jono and I thought it would be better to point it here
[13:56] <jcastro> ok
[13:57] <jcastro> I was under the impression that this was a team channel
[13:57] <jcastro> but whatever. :)
[13:58] <mhall119> jcastro: yeah, jono mentioned that we should drop the -team from the channel name
[13:58] <czajkowski> mhall119: but we've always said go to #ububntu-locoteams
[13:58] <czajkowski> why the change?
[13:59] <mhall119> czajkowski: this is a new feature for global events, we've never pointed anything anywhere before
[13:59] <jcastro> @mhall119 well, I thought this channel was the team channel
[13:59] <meetingology> jcastro: Error: "mhall119" is not a valid command.
[13:59] <jcastro> not a hangout channel
[13:59] <czajkowski> mhall119: on blog posts and mails we have always directed them to the locoteams channel
[13:59] <jcastro> I'm just concerned it will turn into #ubunty
[13:59] <mhall119> czajkowski: for general chatter?
[13:59] <MrChrisDruif> jcastro; indeed, I thought we had #ubuntu-offtopic for that?
[13:59] <jcastro> er, #ubuntu
[14:00] <czajkowski> mhall119: always
[14:00] <czajkowski> general chatter went there
[14:00] <czajkowski> p[us fot teams wanting to show off what they were doing
[14:00] <czajkowski> during the day, or ask where they should go, they went there first
[14:00] <mhall119> czajkowski: well the LC has the ability to edit that, if you guys wanted it pointed somewhere else
[14:01] <czajkowski> well not if ye've made the decision to put them in here...
[14:01] <mhall119> czajkowski: it's just a field in the database, easy enough to change
[14:01]  * jcastro doesn't feel strongly either way, was just pointing out that it was different
[14:04] <mhall119> I don't have a preference either, I just needed to put *something* in the field
[14:07] <jcastro> my only concern is monday after the jam that this channel becomes a mess
[14:08] <jcastro> mhall119: can you help me with my wireless?
[14:08] <jcastro> OMG FLASH BROKEN HALP.
[14:08] <jcastro> etc.
[14:09] <mhall119> and you'd rather that happens to -locoteams, or you don't think it will happen to -locoteams?
[14:09] <mhall119> if we want to setup a separate channel specifically for globaljam chatter, I'm cool with that too
[14:09] <mhall119> again, it's just a field in the database
[14:10]  * mhall119 needs to remove status.net form the microblog feed
[14:10] <jcastro> well, we always did it in locoteams in the past
[14:10] <jcastro> shrug, like I said, I'm not too opinionated about it
[14:11] <MrChrisDruif> mhall119; that might even be a good idea
[14:11] <mhall119> MrChrisDruif: that'll be windows #71 for me :(
[14:11] <MrChrisDruif> mhall119; just for the UGJ ;-)
[14:11] <MrChrisDruif> After that you can close it again ^_^
[14:12] <mhall119> close an irc window????
[14:12] <mhall119> blasphemy!
[14:13] <mhall119> jcastro: are you enjoying watching everyone in Florida complain about 40F temperatures?
[14:16] <jcastro> we went to the garlic fest over the weekend
[14:16] <jcastro> and people were wearing coats and gloves and hats
[14:16] <jcastro> I was like "what?"
[14:17] <jcastro> I did wear a pullover yesterday though, it was a tad chilly
[14:18] <MrChrisDruif> jcastro; and the temperature was?
[14:18] <MrChrisDruif> (In Celsius if possible ^_^)
[14:18] <jcastro> 50s iirc
[14:18] <jcastro> oh, no clue in C
[14:18] <MrChrisDruif> F?
[14:18] <jcastro> it was light jacket weather, but not like, coats and gloves and stuff
[14:19] <MrChrisDruif> Ah, 10+ C
[14:19] <MrChrisDruif> Last week it was -13 C in Holland O_O
[14:19] <MrChrisDruif> 8.6 F
[14:20] <mhall119> MrChrisDruif: Floridians are weenies when it comes to cold
[14:20] <mhall119> but we'll make fun of everyone else in the summer
[14:21] <MrChrisDruif> Ghehe
[14:22] <mhall119> we're all "Oh, you're on fire?  Well we have humidity! take that!"
[14:38] <s-fox> Hello.
[14:52] <cjohnston> mornin
[14:55] <MrChrisDruif> Afternoon cjohnston ^_^
[14:56] <cjohnston> it will be afternoon once I get on the plane
[15:05] <mhall119> cjohnston: you're not back yet?
[15:07] <cjohnston> no
[15:11] <mhall119> cjohnston: stop vacationing and get back to work
[15:16] <jcastro> hey guys
[15:16] <jcastro> so, with this loco page
[15:16] <jcastro> where are we putting tasks and stuff for people
[15:20] <dpm> jcastro, I haven't been doing it myself yet, but I thought it was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[15:21] <dpm> or the one on the loco directory
[15:21] <dpm> for the event
[15:21] <jcastro> yeah I am just confused, with the new page we'll probably remove a bunch of stuff from this page right?
[15:22] <dpm> I thought the idea was just to modify the front page and leave the subpages as they were
[15:22] <jcastro> ok
[15:23] <jcastro> s-fox: yo.
[15:24] <jcastro> s-fox: did someone with admin access link up with lamont?
[15:29] <mhall119> dpm: the dashboard on the loco directory is for interaction/participation, the wiki is still better for detailed information
[15:30] <dpm> mhall119, ok, cool
[15:35] <s-fox> jcastro,  I sent some contact details through. Not heard anything since
[15:42] <czajkowski> never again shall I torture dholbach or jcastro for email addresses whoooooooo :D
[15:43] <Pendulum> czajkowski: now your real motive comes clear :P
[15:44] <czajkowski> yup
[15:44] <czajkowski> al I wanted was email addresses
[15:56] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:57] <jono> hey dholbach
[16:01] <jono> dholbach, all set?
[16:01] <dholbach> yep
[16:29] <jono> dpm, going to be a bit late
[16:29] <dpm> jono, no worries
[16:45] <jono> dpm, all set?
[16:45] <dpm> jono, yep, let me grab a drink, I need 30 sec
[16:46] <jono> dpm, np, will set up the hangout
[16:46]  * dholbach could do with a drink too
[16:47] <jono> dpm, hangout sent
[16:47] <jono> dholbach, jaegerbombs! :-)
[16:47] <mhall119> one of those Mondays is it?
[16:48] <dholbach> jono, that'd be a bit drastic :)
[16:48] <jono> ain't nothing drastic about a jaegerbomb?
[16:48] <jcastro> did someone say shots?
[16:48] <jcastro> woo!
[16:49] <jono> shot shot shot shot shot shots shots
[16:49] <dholbach> I love you all
[16:54] <czajkowski> ohhh nyommy jaegaerbombs!
[16:54] <czajkowski> or baby guinness :D
[17:01] <jcastro> <-- lunching
[17:02] <jcastro> (though I might just go to a bar and get some jaegerbombs)
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[17:25] <mhall119> jono: are we still on in 5?
[17:26] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day - there's a one-year anniversary to celebrate
[17:26] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow
[17:26] <dholbach> hugs
[17:27] <mhall119> bye dholbach
[17:27] <mhall119> happy $anniversary
[17:28] <dholbach> thanks :)
[17:30] <jono> mhall119, all set?
[17:30] <dpm> jcastro, you've got an awesome about page on your new blog
[17:31] <jcastro> yeah that's about.me
[17:31] <jcastro> dpm: http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/11360873455/lets-make-it-personal
[17:33] <mhall119> jono: yup
[17:33] <jono> mhall119, creating hangout
[17:39] <dpm> ok, calling it a day...
[17:39] <dpm> have a nice rest of the day everyone, and see you tomorrow!
[17:42] <jcastro> mhall119: andrewsomething has fixes for CCSM in the queue
[17:42] <jcastro> see ubuntu-desktop
[17:42] <jcastro> you might have to ping smspillaz to look at them
[18:06] <mhall119> jcastro: link to the fixes?
[18:06] <jcastro> https://code.launchpad.net/~andrewsomething/ubuntu/precise/compizconfig-settings-manager/first_run_warning/+merge/91374
[18:06] <jcastro> https://code.launchpad.net/~andrewsomething/ubuntu/precise/compizconfig-settings-manager/disable_unity_checkbox/+merge/91375
[18:06] <jcastro> they're from like 3 days ago
[18:07] <mhall119> jcastro: looks like didrocks is already on the case
[18:07] <jcastro> oh awesome. <3
[18:08] <jcastro> looks like he must have read the same mail, heh
[19:00] <jono> jcastro, all set?
[19:02] <jcastro> jono: yep
[19:02] <jcastro> sorry I was in the restoorm
[19:03] <jono> jcastro, damn you!
[19:03] <jono> :-)
[19:03] <jcastro> yikes
[19:03] <jcastro> plugin crashed
[19:03] <jcastro> one sec
[19:03] <jono> lol
[19:11] <snap-l> jcastro: Introduce Jono to Signals. :)
[19:11] <snap-l> Digital Man. :)
[19:12] <koolhead17> hi all
[19:13] <jono> :-)
[19:21] <balloons> jono, skaggs live in 10?
[19:24] <jono> balloons, yup
[19:24] <jono> jcastro, http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1443/detail/
[19:26] <jono> balloons, want to start early?
[19:26] <balloons> ohh yea.. 4 mins early!
[19:26] <balloons> so good
[19:26] <jono> into my fourth hour of calls
[19:26] <jono> phew
[19:26] <jono> Mondays are always intense
[19:26] <balloons> real
[19:27] <jono> invite sent
[19:28] <jcastro> Daviey: ping
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[20:20] <jono> lunch
[20:20] <jono> biab
[21:36] <jono> popey, ping?
[21:36] <popey> yo
[21:36] <jono> popey, are you running the business remix team?
[21:37] <popey> no
[21:37] <jono> popey, who is?
[21:37] <popey> Gary Ekker is
[21:37] <jono> ok cool
[21:37] <jono> I need to get some content for Wired
[21:37] <jono> will mail him
[21:37] <jono> thanks
[21:37] <popey> np
[21:39] <balloons> the plot thickens...
[21:39] <balloons> da da da dum...
[21:48] <jcastro> INBOX 3
[21:49]  * mhall119 inbox (500)
[21:49] <mhall119> :(
[21:51] <jcastro> Inbox 0 would be an awesome achievement in ubuntu
[21:51] <jcastro> for the trophies
[21:52] <jcastro> man where did the day go
[21:53] <czajkowski> I've no idea. but so in dire need of sleep
[21:56] <jo-erlend> jcastro, I actually manage that most of the time, though I really do get insane amounts of mail at times. :)
[21:56] <jo-erlend> heh, it really requires quite an effort. :)
[21:56] <pleia2> I give myself a gold star when I can keep it under 50 :)
[21:56] <pleia2> (44 right now, woo gold star!)
[21:57] <jo-erlend> I deleted all emails in my mailbox at new years eve, and now it's about 6500 emails. 0 unread.
[21:59] <mhall119> czajkowski: how was your first day?
[22:01]  * balloons inbox(4)
[22:01] <balloons> but that's not counting all the other items in folders that are unread.. sometimes the key to winning is to use a better metric :-)
[22:01] <balloons> hehe
[22:02] <jo-erlend> all folders and all accounts (0) :)
[22:03] <jo-erlend> one thing that annoys me, though, is that gmail exposes some messages twice, so I have to mark them as read twice in tbird.
[22:03] <jo-erlend> I'm very close to dropping the whole google thing once and for all.
[22:05] <czajkowski> mhall119: inbox 0 :)
[22:05] <czajkowski> am pooped
[22:10] <jono> jcastro, 20% day...you should write some Juju and Server accomplishments ;-)
[22:11] <jcastro> ok so like while I love the 20% idea
[22:11] <jcastro> it doesn't actually add 20% time to my workday
[22:12] <jono> lol
[22:13] <jono> mhall119, did you figure out the problem with the number of UGJ events on l.u.c?
[22:13] <jcastro> jono: oh dude
[22:13] <jcastro> on the other hand
[22:13] <jcastro> trophies are perfect for UCJ
[22:13] <jcastro> er, UGJ
[22:13] <jono> jcastro, indeed
[22:14] <jcastro> a loco team, one whiteboard, 2 hours
[22:14] <jcastro> could totally make a ton
[22:14] <jono> jcastro, you wanna write them?
[22:14] <jono> :-)
[22:14] <jcastro> I'll have to see how close my tasks are to the black line that weekend
[22:14] <jcastro> call me "plateau guy"
[22:14] <jono> :-)
[22:15] <jono> always the ideas...never the commitment...
[22:15] <jono> lol
[22:15] <jcastro> i know right
[22:15] <jono> lol
[22:15] <jcastro> I'll get my few in there
[22:15] <jono> :-)
[22:15] <jono> this week I hope to show it working so people can test it
[22:16] <jono> for existing U1 users it is basically about there
[22:16] <jcastro> jono: hey so, gustavo totally future proofed himself
[22:16] <jcastro> when the store lands
[22:16] <jcastro> the existing clients will just work
[22:16] <jo-erlend> heh... Has the software center gone on strike in Precise? :)
[22:17] <jcastro> that means that when the backend goes live, everyone with juju will just get the backend
[22:17] <jcastro> they won't be like totally broken
[22:17] <jcastro> it's totally awesome
[22:17] <jcastro> even on 11.10
[22:19] <jono> jcastro, sweet
[22:19] <jono> jo-erlend, they are getting synced over soon
[22:19] <jo-erlend> jono, it's not just me then. Thanks :)
[22:20] <jcastro> hmm, is this local menu thing omg running real?
[22:20] <jono> jo-erlend, :-)
[22:20] <jcastro> I thought they were just putting them in the window title area, not making them vertical
[22:20] <jono> jcastro, Trevinho is working on it
[22:20] <jono> not sure what the final design will be
[22:20] <jono> I suspect this will get some user testing
[22:20] <jono> and be adjusted
[22:21] <jono> it can work in a few different modes
[22:21] <jcastro> oh I am just wondering if this was a result of the last batch of user testing
[22:21] <jono> it was a result of a merge proposal
[22:22] <jcastro> it looks awesome
[22:22] <jcastro> no more disappearing menu!
[22:24] <jo-erlend> but shouldn't it have a button like close, minimize and maximize?
[22:25] <jcastro> it does in the title bar thing
[22:25] <jcastro> (from the screenshot I am looking at, I haven't tried it)
[22:25] <jcastro> http://cdn.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/LIM-flair-asset.png
[22:25] <jo-erlend> I'm looking at that screenshot too. I'm thinking that doesn't look like an actionable widget.
[22:25] <jo-erlend> might be difficult to discover.
[22:25] <jcastro> oh I see what you mean
[22:28] <jcastro> assuming the final one makes that discoverable, shrug
[22:28] <jcastro> I didn't like the disappearing menu that much
[22:28] <jcastro> I suspect I will be heavily using the hud for the few times I use the  menu anyway
[22:35] <jcastro> jo-erlend: this will be excellent
[22:35] <jcastro> now the people who hate the global menu will like this
[22:35] <jcastro> and now we'll get flamed by the people who liked the global menu
[22:35] <jcastro> we need to cover all the bases!
[22:36] <jo-erlend> I really _love_ the fact that the menubar is hidden. This seems to be mostly perfect. When maximized, it should be hidden until the window controls are displayed on hover. On non-maximized windows, it should be visible all the time, since the window controls are anyway. One more button won't add much clutter.
[22:37] <jo-erlend> jcastro, "So many clicks! Horizontal is better!" :)
[22:41] <jcastro> yeah I thought LIM would just be the menu showing up on the titlebar when the app is unmaximized.
[22:41] <jcastro> but whatever, this looks better I think
[22:49] <jono> back soon, heading to the coffee shop
[22:50] <mhall119> jo-erlend: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-team-portal/fix-globalevent-count/+register-merge
[22:50] <mhall119> whoops, was for jono
[22:50] <mhall119> but he's already left, so tab-fail
[22:50] <jo-erlend> yes, I got a little confused there, for a moment. :)
[22:50] <jcastro> hey mhall119
[22:50] <jcastro> is that local menu thing in the unity queue?
[22:50]  * jcastro debates switching back to the staging ppa
[22:50] <mhall119> depends, what do yu mean by 'local menu thing'?
[22:51] <mhall119> jcastro: the thing OMG had up?
[22:51] <jcastro> yeah
[22:51] <mhall119> I don't think those branches have landed yet
[22:52] <mhall119> I don't know if staging ppa builds from trunk or some other branch though
[22:53] <jcastro> I think it's trunk
[22:53] <jcastro> well, I notice the PPA fires off when new stuff hits trunk
[22:53] <jcastro> but that just might be coincidence for all I know
[22:57] <AlanBell> surprised global menu and lim thing don't look like launcher quicklists
[22:58] <AlanBell> I wonder if launcher quicklists could *be* the menu, they are just dbusmenuitems
[23:01] <AlanBell> no, they are not hierarchical. Shame.
[23:07] <mhall119> AlanBell: they are also per-app, not per-window
[23:08] <mhall119> they might work for the new Gnome AppMenu though
[23:16] <AlanBell> mhall119: yeah, but the active window is the only one of an app-group with a useful menu
[23:17] <AlanBell> if the quicklists were hierachical and exposed the menu of the top-most window of the application they would be quite interesting
[23:18] <AlanBell> did you try my window quicklists?
[23:19] <mhall119> AlanBell: the new Gnome Application Menu is going to let app developers define one menu for the application itself, not just per-window
[23:19] <mhall119> I think that's coming in Gnome 3.4
[23:20] <mhall119> AlanBell: http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/Features/ApplicationMenu
[23:21] <AlanBell> interesting, would be nice to pin that to the launcher on a per-application basis
[23:21] <AlanBell> then you could operate the menus of all your applications, without changing window focus if you don't want to
[23:22] <AlanBell> this might be a feature that the design team won't approve of
[23:23] <AlanBell> anyhow, window quicklists are nice. http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/quicklists.py
[23:26] <jo-erlend> where is this implemented? I mean, will it have to be hardcoded into Unity or something, or can it be implemented using plugins? It would be very nice, I think, if you could install different menu styles. That way, people could experiment much more with different styles, which might make it easier to find something awesome that really works well.
[23:49] <mhall119> jo-erlend: Gnome exports it over dbus, iirc
[23:49] <mhall119> not exactly like Unity does, but similar idea