2012/01/07/#ubuntu-beginners.txt

[01:17] <Geodude> I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 on an old computer I found in the trash at my brother's work. I can't get the sound to work. I can see the card, it says Audigy SB [unknown]. But I can't get it to make sound. It has like 8 jacks in it and I can't figure out which jack is the right jack. But I've been messing with it for like an hour now and I still have no sound. :/
[01:17] <Geodude> SB Audigy 2 [unknown]*
[01:20] <Geodude> I added snd-emu10k1 in /etc/modules. That did nothing, AFAIK.
[01:29] <philipballew> what driver is the sound card running?
[01:29] <philipballew> Geodude,
[01:31] <Geodude> Uhh how do I check that?
[01:31] <philipballew> open a terminal
[01:31] <philipballew> lspci -vvv
[01:32] <philipballew> paste it into pastebin or something or if you want to isolate the sound card your welcome to
[01:32] <Geodude> From googling, everyone else's card says "SB Audigy 2 [SB0240]" where mine says "SB Audigy 2 [Unknown]". I only found one search result that listed it as unknown and their problem was that they had their sound muted so that didn't help me at all.
[01:33] <philipballew> well paste the output to here
[01:33] <philipballew> pastebin.com/
[01:37] <Geodude> http://paste.ubuntu.com/795579/
[01:37] <philipballew> even better
[01:38] <Geodude> Sorry I'm on IRC on my windows computer and the linux computer is across the room so I have to go back and forth lol.
[01:38] <philipballew> you should switch to ubuntu full time
[01:39] <philipballew> also, whats alsamixer show?
[01:39] <Geodude> I actually just switched from Ubuntu full time.
[01:39] <Geodude> I used it for a year as my only OS.
[01:39] <Geodude> Uhg I hate alsamixer. I dont know. I can't ever figure out what it is doing or how to move it. I can't use my mouse so it's extremely debilitating lol.
[01:39] <philipballew> did you want to hate yourself so you decided to switch back :)
[01:40] <Geodude> Unity and lack of gnome2 support made me switch to Windows again.
[01:40] <philipballew> you dont need a mouse. its all in the terminal, thats why its so good
[01:40] <Geodude> CLI is not my strong side :)
[01:40] <Geodude> I prefer GUI when I can.
[01:40] <Geodude> It's showing soudn at 100%. other than that i can't read alsamixer.
[01:40] <Geodude> sound*
[01:40] <philipballew> have you ever thought about xfce,lxde,kde,openbox,fluxbox?
[01:41] <philipballew> your welcome to take a screen shot
[01:41] <Geodude> I've tried kde, xfce, lxde, et c. et c. ad nauseum.
[01:41] <Geodude> I like gnome2.
[01:41] <Geodude> I tried Unity and Gnome3 for about 3 weeks each and I could not get them to work. My games would not even render on the screen.
[01:42] <Geodude> I could hear the sound and interact with menus with my mouse and keyboard, but it would just show my desktop.
[01:42] <Geodude> Unity and Gnome3, IMO, are still in beta.
[01:42] <Geodude> They need major work before I will consider them again.
[01:42] <philipballew> sorry, im not a gamer so i never messed with those. unity is nice imo. but i have customized the hell out of it
[01:43] <Geodude> That's what I've heard. Unity is nice if you spend a long time customizing it. Which I did. But I don't like change. I like my gnome2.
[01:43] <Geodude> I'm not sure how to get a screen shot from that computer to this computer...
[01:43] <Geodude> picasa URLs are giant.
[01:44] <philipballew> tiny url?
[01:44] <philipballew> did you use linux before gnome2?
[01:44] <Geodude> No.
[01:45] <Geodude> And, granted, I also customized the crap out of gnome2 but I can actually use it stock. Unity is unusable unless I spend at least 30 minutes changing stuff.
[01:45] <Geodude> So I'm sticking with 10.04 until Mint gets MATE off the ground.
[01:45] <Geodude> Or they fix Gnome3.
[01:46] <philipballew> maybe if you dont like change then if you were using linux before gnome 2 you probably would not have like gnome 2. sometimes these things are confusing at first but its all linux really. if yiu have a terminal and a web browser you got most everything
[01:47] <philipballew> I really hate mint
[01:47] <philipballew> and i normally like most things, but mint bugs the shit out me
[01:47] <philipballew> did you get that screen shot?
[01:48] <Geodude> tinyurl.com/79xcueg
[01:49] <Geodude> I need windows for my games anyways. I got most of my games working in Linux but they just look so much better in DX10.
[01:49] <philipballew> what kind of games do you play?
[01:50] <Geodude> Dungeons and Dragons Online, Guild Wars, Star Wars The Old Republic
[01:50] <Geodude> Guild Wars works almost natively on Linux because the developers coded it to play nicely with Wine.
[01:50] <philipballew> sounds like a total fun time!
[01:50] <philipballew> star wars is cool
[01:51] <Geodude> SWTOR is super buggy right now. I'm going to give it a few months. It's pretty agrevating.
[01:51] <Geodude> But I'm really enjoying it.
[01:52] <philipballew> what are the two things in alsamixer that are muted?
[01:53] <Geodude> the things that have the [MM] on them?
[01:53] <Geodude> Tone and 3d contr
[01:53] <Geodude> But I can't un-mute them.
[01:54] <philipballew> how old is this computer?
[01:54] <Geodude> I found it in the trash.
[01:54] <Geodude> lol
[01:54] <philipballew> so you put linux on it!
[01:54] <Geodude> Yes. lol.
[01:54] <Geodude> It only has 1 gig of ram but it has a really nice CPU for some reason lol.
[01:55] <philipballew> my laptop has four and it has run ubuntu since the day i got it
[01:55] <Geodude> Intel 4 3.00GHz, 3.00GHz
[01:59] <philipballew> alright, well since you got this in the trash, im wondering if the card is dammaged
[02:01] <Geodude> I had Win7 on it for a hot minute and the sound worked.
[02:01] <Geodude> But, yeah. I'm at the end of my rope here. I don't know what the problem is. Ubuntu sees the card.
[02:02]  * philipballew thinks
[02:02] <philipballew> could be a pulse thing
[02:13] <Geodude> I have always had issues with sound since Ubuntu 10.04
[02:15] <Geodude> How do I check to see if Pulseaudio is working correctly?
[02:16] <philipballew> !pulse
[02:16] <ubot2`> PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions
[02:18] <Geodude> Well, it's running.
[02:19] <Geodude> But I do not have this: Now, go into Applications -> Sound and Video -> click on PulseAudio Preferences.
[02:22] <Geodude> It also says to enable software sound mixing and set devices to Autodetect in my Sounds panel but I don't have those options anywhere.
[03:28] <pjkaiser> Hi all... Linux n00b here. Been trying to install Lubuntu on an old, old system (P3 500) with problems... any helpers out there?
[03:28] <Geodude> It's pretty quiet tonight. I've never installed Lubuntu before.
[03:29] <pleia2> pjkaiser: I suggest asking specific questions, if people know the answers they'll make some suggestions
[03:29] <pjkaiser> That's OK... I'm thinking there may be hardware issues, but I'm not sure. I installed 32-bit Ubuntu, and it worked - sort of
[03:29] <pjkaiser> really slow, the mouse left pointer trails all over the screen
[03:30] <Geodude> That is odd.
[03:30] <pjkaiser> Lubuntu installed, but when I booted up after the install, it did the POST checks fine, and hung just after that
[03:30] <pjkaiser> All I saw was the flashing cursor in the top left corner of the screen
[03:32] <pjkaiser> The other thing is (here's where the hardware issues may come in), I'm installing it on a system with a dead CD-ROM and dead 3.5" drives. The way I did it was to phyiscally remove the HDD and hook it up to another tower with a working CD drive
[03:32] <pjkaiser> then, after the install but before the reboot, I reconnected to the P3 500
[03:33] <pjkaiser> my only other thought might be to remove the CD drive from the newer tower and transfer it to the P3 for the install...
[03:33] <pleia2> sounds like it's not loading the boot loader, which may be because it can't find it (referencing a drive name which doesn't exist, which may due to installing it on another system) or something is broken on it
[03:34] <pjkaiser> when I got the old compo (free, btw), it had win98 on it... it worked, but sluggishly, and had trouble finding internet
[03:34] <pleia2> you don't actually need to install ubuntu and lubuntu separately, if ubuntu worked you can just try out lubuntu by installing the lubuntu-desktop package and switching to lubuntu in the login screen
[03:34] <pjkaiser> ah
[03:34] <pjkaiser> I looked for Lubuntu in the software center after seeing regular U running so choppily
[03:34] <pjkaiser> and didn't find anything
[03:34] <pleia2> which version of ubuntu?
[03:35] <pjkaiser> 10.04
[03:35] <pjkaiser> I'm running that (with no problems) on the other tower
[03:35] <pleia2> ah, yeah, lubuntu only became official with the latest release, 11.10
[03:35] <pjkaiser> Oh
[03:36] <pjkaiser> running regular Ubuntu 10.10LTS on the 2GHz machine, and that's the version that ran (slowly) on the P3
[03:36] <pleia2> 10.04 LTS?
[03:36] <pjkaiser> and that install worked with the cross-drive install
[03:36] <pleia2> (10.10 wasn't an LTS)
[03:36] <pjkaiser> sorry, yeah
[03:37] <pjkaiser> 10.04LTS
[03:37] <pleia2> you can also try other things, like just installing an alternate desktop environment
[03:37] <pjkaiser> can I get those via the software center?
[03:37] <pleia2> install xfce, or fluxbox, again you just select the nalternate window manager when you log in
[03:37] <pleia2> yes
[03:37] <pjkaiser> awesome
[03:38] <pleia2> I use fluxbox on my old p3 laotop
[03:38] <pjkaiser> cool
[03:38] <pleia2> very basic :) but I just need to start up a web browser and chat really
[03:38] <pjkaiser> all righty then... I have a few more ideas to try out now. Thanks a bunch, and here's hopin'! :-)
[03:38] <pleia2> good luck
[03:40] <pjkaiser> Hey... another random question
[03:40] <pjkaiser> with Ubuntu, I have to click the mouse arrow way down near the bottom to click where I want to... is there a fix for that?
[03:40] <pleia2> not sure what you mean
[03:41] <pjkaiser> everything works just fine, but when I click the mouse button on something, it reads a bit low, or...
[03:41] <pjkaiser> instead of clicking right where the tip of the mouse arrow is, it's more toward the bottom
[03:41] <pleia2> never seen that before, sorry
[03:41] <pjkaiser> the bottom left corner of the arrow head, to be exact
[03:42] <pjkaiser> oh well
[03:42] <pjkaiser> not a big deal, just a bit weird
[03:42] <pleia2> sounds weird :)
[03:42] <pleia2> might try a different mouse and see if it still happens/
[03:42] <pjkaiser> when I switch back to another compo, I find myself clicking too high the first few times :-P
[03:42] <pjkaiser> anyway, off to try the reinstall
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[09:35] <pjkaiser> Hi all. Just got Lubuntu running on this system, and I want to get Folding@Home running on here too... Any helpers?
[11:45] <Culiforge> somewhere along the line, kernel 2.6.32-37 (I think) got added to my grub. It's set as default kernel before 32-33 but it doesn't boot correctly. How can I remove/reinstall it so I dont break anything?
[16:14] <pip__> newbie question:  I've seen a reference to this: $> ifup wlan0.  What in the world does the > refer to.  I get the $ is a standard terminal line & not # (root?)  I understand that the rest is about wireless interfaces.  I'm trying to work out how to use ifscheme.
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[18:26] <harleydude> Where do I change screen resolution?
[22:28] <Kentrel> Can someone help me figure out why I can't get my USB microphone to work. It's a Samson COU1 and it's recognised automatically, but I can't record anything. Checked all the levels