2008/11/29/#kubuntu-devel.txt

[03:11] <jussi01> does anyone know which ppa has the right click actions for kde4 in it? apachelogger gave it to me a while back, but now I cant remember which it was...
[03:12] <jussi01> ie. the untar here, untar to folder etc...
[03:12] <jussi01> or are those packages now in intrepid
[03:12] <jussi01> ?
[03:30]  * jussi01 sighs and remembers most of Kubuntu devel is in Europe...
[03:36] <claydoh> jussi01: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/samrog131/ubuntu intrepid main
[03:37] <jussi01> claydoh: thanks a million :D
[03:38] <claydoh> :)
[03:54] <ScottK-laptop> Anyone who perhaps feels like looking into why the python-qt4 in Debian Experimental FTBFS on mv: cannot stat `debian/python-qt4-dbg/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/PyQt4/phonon.so': No such file or directory, please be my guest.
[03:54] <ScottK-laptop> The package builds on Debian.
[03:55] <ScottK-laptop> It even builds on Debian when built against our phonon package.
[03:55] <ScottK-laptop> The current difference between our python-central and the one in Debian is pretty trivial.
[03:55] <ScottK-laptop> So it's not python-qt4, it's not phonon, it's not python-central.
[03:56]  * ScottK-laptop needs to get to sleep, so I'd appreciate it if someone else could figure out what I'm missing.
[03:56] <ScottK-laptop> Good night all.
[04:39] <manchicken> I don't remember, does Konversation have a spellchecker built in?
[04:40] <jussi01> we dont have python2.4 in ubuntu anymore, do we?
[04:41] <jussi01> manchicken: I *think* so
[04:41] <manchicken> jussi01: As soon as we remove py2.4 we'll find like 15K things using it.
[04:43] <NCommander> apachelogger, ping
[04:43] <jussi01> NCommander: he is likely still asleep
[04:44] <jussi01> manchicken: lol, ok... I thought it was removed, but then, Im high on morphine, so I probably think a lot of things...
[04:45] <manchicken> Hah!
[04:45] <jussi01> manchicken: legal, prescribed morphine of course :D
[04:46] <manchicken> Of course.
[07:44] <nixternal> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kde-style-skulpture
[07:44] <nixternal> *cough*
[07:46]  * Hobbsee watches nixternal cough up a furball.
[07:46] <nixternal> eww
[07:53] <Hobbsee> yes, ewww!
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[15:00] <apachelogger> bug #303204
[15:00] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 303204 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Skulpture style for KDE 4" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/303204
[15:13] <apachelogger> nixternal: did you try compiling it against KDE trunk?
[16:14] <apachelogger> bug #296135
[16:14] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 296135 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] plasmoid-adjustable-clock" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/296135
[16:15] <nixternal> apachelogger: it works with trunk...I am using it with trunk
[16:16] <apachelogger> nixternal: yeah, already tested, I only found some minor flaws
[16:30] <nixternal> apachelogger: why is kde4-style still preferred?
[16:30] <nixternal> since we don't have kde3 anymore
[16:30] <apachelogger> because we still have kde-style- hanging around, which should be removed anyway, and all the others for KDE 4 are still kde4-style
[16:31] <apachelogger> also we should discuss this with debian-kde
[16:31] <apachelogger> maybe they want to use kde4-style *shrug*
[16:31] <nixternal> they didn't say anything about it..I will check though
[16:32] <apachelogger> aye
[16:32] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: pling
[16:32] <apachelogger> nixternal: go with kde-style then
[16:32] <nixternal> apachelogger: kde-style-skulpture is what deb-kde recs
[16:32] <nixternal> hehe
[16:33] <apachelogger> nixternal: but please drop a mail to the list about kicking the non kde4 packages out of the archives
[16:33] <nixternal> I will do that
[16:33] <apachelogger> perfect
[16:33] <apachelogger> ScottK: pling
[16:34] <apachelogger> no one got time for poor ol'apachelogger :(
[16:37] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: Plong
[16:37] <apachelogger> ScottK: did you do a list-missing on your python-qt4 merge?
[16:38] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: No.  It wasn't a merge is was just trying to build the Debian package straight (it should be a sync as they've incorporated all are changes).
[16:38] <ScottK-laptop> are/our
[16:38] <apachelogger> ScottK: nevermind, somehow there is a bug in the list-missing stuff
[16:39]  * apachelogger prepares python-qt 4.4.4 for upload
[16:39] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: Did you get it to build?
[16:39]  * ScottK-laptop is curious what you had to do.
[16:40] <apachelogger> ScottK-laptop: we need to update to 4.4.4 for kde4bindings to build
[16:40]  * apachelogger thinks there is a word order issue
[16:41] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: OK.  Did you see the note I left yesterday about it failing for me?
[16:41] <apachelogger> no
[16:42] <apachelogger> ScottK-laptop: builds just fine here
[16:43] <apachelogger> ScottK-laptop: got a buildlog?
[16:43] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: Not the whole thing.
[16:43] <nixternal> apachelogger: updated the pkg on revu...thanks for catching that copyright thing..I have notified upstream on that as well
[16:43] <ScottK-laptop> mv: cannot stat `debian/python-qt4-dbg/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/PyQt4/phonon.so': No such file or directory was the error
[16:45] <apachelogger> hm
[16:46] <apachelogger> ScottK-laptop: that file is not mentioned anywhere in my buildlog
[16:48] <apachelogger> funnies
[16:48] <apachelogger> ScottK: what phonon version did you compile against?
[16:50] <apachelogger> ah
[16:51] <apachelogger> ScottK-laptop: JontheEchidna only updated the package but didn't merge/sync with debian
[16:52] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: IIRC I built it both against the Debian package and our package, but maybe I didn't.
[16:52] <ScottK-laptop> phonon that it.
[16:52] <ScottK-laptop> it/is
[16:52] <ScottK-laptop> I thought he did merge.
[16:52] <apachelogger> no
[16:52] <ScottK-laptop> Well that'd be a problem then.
[16:53] <apachelogger> the not being a merge or that you did try with a merge?
[16:53] <ScottK-laptop> Not being a merge.
[16:53] <apachelogger> ScottK-laptop: how so?
[16:53] <ScottK-laptop> There's a new binary in python-qt4 from Debian that needs the updated Phonon stuff from Debian.
[16:54] <apachelogger> ScottK-laptop: we can merge later
[16:54] <apachelogger> for no python-qt4 just prevents any progress on KDE 4.1.80
[16:54] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: The build-dep on phonon in pyhton-qt4 is on the latest Debian phonon revision.
[16:55] <apachelogger> didn't we merge that already?
[16:55]  * apachelogger is getting confused
[16:55] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: Then you'll need to drop the new phonon binary from python-qt4.
[16:55] <ScottK-laptop> I thought you just told me he didn't merge phonon.
[16:55] <apachelogger> he didn't merge python-qt4
[16:55] <ScottK-laptop> Ah.
[16:56] <apachelogger> phonon was merged along the other KDE stuff
[16:56] <ScottK-laptop> If you can get the Debian python-qt4 stuff to build, then I'd say just ask for a sync.
[16:56] <ScottK-laptop> There aren't any outstanding Ubuntu changes.
[16:56] <apachelogger> oh dear
[16:56] <apachelogger> again that python compile bloat
[16:56] <apachelogger> -.-
[16:56]  * ScottK-laptop is under the weather today, so probably not processing well.
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[16:59] <apachelogger> ScottK-laptop: debian depends python (>= 2.5)... is that good?
[17:00]  * apachelogger is getting lost in windows
[17:00] <ScottK-laptop> Urgh.
[17:01] <astromme> Is there a reason why I can't join #kde-cafe in Quassel? It doesn'
[17:01] <astromme> *doesn't show up in the channel list either
[17:02] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: Are you looking at  python-elementtree | python (>= 2.5) ?
[17:02] <apachelogger> yus
[17:02] <apachelogger> astromme: maybe you have been banned? :P
[17:02] <ScottK-laptop> That's fine as python-elementtree is in python2.5
[17:03] <astromme> apachelogger: O.O would I have recieved some sort of notification for that? Also, would that prevent it from showing up in the channel list?
[17:03] <apachelogger> I dunno
[17:04] <astromme> apachelogger: Aha! "405 #kde-cafe You can't join that many channels
[17:04] <apachelogger> sensible
[17:06] <apachelogger> ScottK-laptop: I am testbuilding and get someone to sync
[17:06] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: Great.  Good luck.  Maybe something else was out of sync that's been fixed now.
[17:07] <apachelogger> nixternal: you should ask an archive admin whether a copy of GPL2 is necessary, before uploading
[17:07] <apachelogger> nixternal: ACKing
[17:12] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger and nixternal: I full copy of $LICENSE is required.  If it's clear what the author intended the license to be, you can repack the tarball to add it.
[17:19] <apachelogger> ScottK-laptop: the source is GPL3+, except for one file which is GPL2+ (and got a different copyright holder for that matter)
[17:24] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: If it's 2+ you can distribute it all as GPL3 then and you only need that, but you ought to say that in debian/copyright.
[17:26]  * ScottK-laptop heads out for a bit.  See you all later.
[18:04] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: plong\
[18:05] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: please try toget python-qt4 from debian experimental to compile with our phonon ... apparently we need to apply some change to phonon so pyqt can compile the phonon stuff
[18:05] <apachelogger> suppose the same phonon change is in experimental
[18:06] <apachelogger> I will finish reviewing against your 4.4.4 meanwhile, hoping that you can get our phonon and debian's python-qt4 to compile ;-)
[18:19] <JontheEchidna> A merge might be wise, seeing as they know their 01_configure better than I do :P
[18:19] <JontheEchidna> *their 01_configure.dpatch
[18:20]  * JontheEchidna downloads
[19:59] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: if we can get our phonon package ot support building of python-phonon we are actually able to sync python-qt4
[20:06] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: we have a higher version than debian so we can't sync
[20:06]  * JontheEchidna is hoping the higher version isn't causing the problems
[20:07] <apachelogger> ok
[20:07] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: we _merge_ something from debian's phonon into our own
[20:07] <apachelogger> inr oder to make _debians_ python-qt4 compile with _our_ _merged_ phonon
[20:07] <JontheEchidna> oh, right. sync python not phonon
[20:07] <apachelogger> so that we can sync _debians_ python-qt4 into _our_ archives and have phonton bindings for python ;-)
[20:07] <apachelogger> phonton
[20:08] <JontheEchidna> lol
[20:08] <apachelogger> jeez, I should be watching less star trek
[20:09] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: we have already merged with the latest debian version of phonon
[20:09] <JontheEchidna> unless....
[20:09] <JontheEchidna> remaining changes:
[20:09] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: well, start investigating either there is something in our phonon packaging that differs from debian while it should not, or python-qt4 is just not compatible with phonon trunk
[20:09] <JontheEchidna> - Do not use phonon-libraryPaths.patch, applied upstream
[20:10] <JontheEchidna> it might have been applied to the 4.2 branch, but not the 4.3 branch
[20:10] <apachelogger> good thinking
[20:10] <JontheEchidna> especially since the change was made after tagging
[20:24]  * JontheEchidna tests new phonon
[20:24] <JontheEchidna> *testbuilds
[20:30] <yuriy> wow system-config-printer certainly still needs some work
[20:31] <JontheEchidna> frack
[20:31] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: the patch doesn't apply
[20:31] <JontheEchidna> :(
[20:32] <JontheEchidna> and looking at it the patch is only supposed to make phonon find its backends
[20:32] <JontheEchidna> we are boned
[20:34] <JontheEchidna> diff -Nru phonon-4.2.0/debian/libphonon-dev.links phonon-4.2.80+svn887720a/debian/libphonon-dev.links
[20:34] <JontheEchidna> --- phonon-4.2.0/debian/libphonon-dev.links	2008-11-29 15:21:15.000000000 -0500
[20:34] <JontheEchidna> +++ phonon-4.2.80+svn887720a/debian/libphonon-dev.links	1969-12-31 19:00:00.000000000 -0500
[20:34] <JontheEchidna> @@ -1,2 +0,0 @@
[20:34] <JontheEchidna> -usr/include/phonon usr/include/qt4/phonon
[20:34] <JontheEchidna> -usr/include/phonon/phonon usr/include/phonon/Phonon
[20:35] <JontheEchidna> why did that file disappear?
[20:37]  * JontheEchidna can't find any reason why it was removed or not added during a merge in teh changelogz
[20:37] <JontheEchidna> back it goes
[20:42] <JontheEchidna> Improper merge on my part, tsk
[20:42] <JontheEchidna> on the plus side this means that apps wanting Qt phonon should compile now :D
[20:46] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger, ScottK, ScottK-laptop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/78137/
[20:47] <apachelogger> bah
[20:47] <apachelogger> I am watching borg cubes explode right now!
[20:47] <apachelogger> lolz
[20:47] <JontheEchidna> lol
[20:47] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: that is all that was missing?
[20:48] <apachelogger> hm, bug in my language engine
[20:48] <JontheEchidna> yes, I checked the diff between us and debian and that was the only change not caused by our newer upstream version or lack of cdbs
[20:48] <apachelogger> well, letz see how that changes things
[20:48] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: do you have debs at hand?
[20:49] <JontheEchidna> nein, I have not testbuilt it
[20:50] <apachelogger> oh my god! what unresponsible behaviour that is!
[20:50]  * apachelogger aborts the current approach of getting bindings in line and pbuilds phonon
[20:51] <JontheEchidna> if phonon fails due to my changes I will eat my shorts :P
[20:51] <apachelogger> funnies
[21:23] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: this dood shares your love of unstable mail clients: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/11/29/cross-platform-mail-reading/
[21:25] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: not only that, we also share names and the interest for accessibility ;-)
[21:29] <apachelogger> oh
[21:29] <apachelogger> my
[21:29] <apachelogger> borg
[21:29] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: it worked \o/
[21:30]  * apachelogger dances through the channel
[22:32] <ryanakca> Should /usr/share/kde4/apps/pykde4/pykdeuic4.py be executable?
[22:35] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: \o/
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[23:49] <nixternal> anyone try out the daily cd images for kubuntu?
[23:52] <ScottK2> apachelogger: Did you upload JontheEchidna's phonon fix?
[23:54] <ScottK2> Nevermind.  I see it.