2008/11/21/#ubuntu-ops.txt

[00:15] <jdong> ??? this place never fails to amuse.
[00:21] <LjjjL> jdong: yes, just be careful and don't become too happy
[00:46] <Flannel> !test
[00:46] <ubottu> sigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed.
[00:54] <BridgeInhabitant> hi, I've set up my irc account and want to set up a cloak for privacy, how do I go about this?
[00:55] <mneptok> BridgeInhabitant: are you an Ubuntu member?
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[01:01] <BridgeInhabitant> mneptok, a member of the forum or team?
[01:02] <Flannel> BridgeInhabitant: an official member.  Are you just looking for an unaffiliated cloak?
[01:04] <BridgeInhabitant> I'm just looking for an unaffiliated cloak please
[01:06] <nalioth> BridgeInhabitant: #freenode is the place for that 
[01:47] <ubot3> In #ubuntu-dz, ButterflyOfFire said: !foo is <reply> bar
[01:50] <bazhang> http://ubuntu-rescue-remix.org/Download <--ugh
[01:52] <bazhang> cak054__, how may we help you
[01:52] <cak054__> how do  i  setup my nick for  freenode
[01:53] <bazhang> cak054__, did you ask in #freenode ?
[01:53] <cak054__> ok i will thanks
[01:55] <LjL> check BT for cak054
[01:55] <LjL> cak054__, by the way, do you know why you're redirected here?
[01:56] <LjL> cak054_, by the way, do you know why you're redirected here?
[01:56] <LjL> (yes, one of the reasons is cloning...)
[01:56] <bazhang> !google test
[01:56] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google test
[01:57] <LjL> he's left, bazhang
[01:57] <Pici> @whoami
[01:57] <bazhang> LjL, just confirming what I found there
[01:57] <bazhang> wonder if the !info is fixed in ubottu yet
[01:58] <Pici> Was it broken?
[01:58] <bazhang> oddly enough it works in PM
[01:58] <bazhang> earlier today yes 
[01:58] <bazhang> !info gnokii
[01:58] <ubottu> gnokii (source: gnokii): Datasuite for mobile phone management. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.26.dfsg-3 (intrepid), package size 0 kB, installed size 20 kB
[01:58] <bazhang> must have been over strained
[01:59] <Pici> She still doesnt know who I am
[02:00] <bazhang> the bot had that prob with genii-around earlier til stdin tweaked it
[02:01] <Pici> @login
[02:01] <ubottu> Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.
[02:02] <ubottu> In ubottu, Pici said: unforget mikem-#ubuntu-offtopic
[02:02] <Pici> bleh
[02:02] <Pici> ignore me
[02:02] <bazhang> this is serious.
[02:02] <bazhang> those factoids are piling up!
[02:14] <bazhang> its the bot for certain. acting wonky lately
[02:17] <bazhang> ubottu lag
[02:17] <stdin> it's still syncing to all the channels
[02:17] <bazhang> oops sorry
[02:18] <ubottu> You have lag, I don't have lag
[02:18] <stdin> takes about 2.5-3 mins to sync to them all
[02:30] <stdin_> @whoami
[02:30] <stdin_> @login
[02:30] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[02:30] <stdin_> @whoami
[02:30] <ubottu> stdin_
[02:31] <stdin> I think it's actually working again
[02:33] <bazhang> @whoami
[02:33] <bazhang> @login
[02:33] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[02:33] <bazhang> @whoami
[02:33] <ubottu> bazhang
[02:35] <Pici> @whoami
[02:35] <Pici> @login
[02:35] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[02:35] <Pici> yay
[02:35] <bazhang> w00t!
[03:05] <mxweas> I am currently banned from #ubuntu... Anyway I can get this removed? I use comcast which has dynamic IPs that change fairly often and it appears on this one I am banned...
[03:07] <mxweas> Don't everyone jump up at once. :)
[03:08] <stdin> were you asking for help with Mac OSX in #ubuntu ?
[03:10] <mxweas> no
[03:10] <mxweas> I don't believe so
[03:11] <stdin> asking for help with "fdisk -l"
[03:11] <mxweas> thats what #macosx and #macdev are for
[03:11] <mxweas> I've never used fdisk
[03:11] <mxweas> I dunno, I do a lot of mac stuff as well
[03:11] <mxweas> I might have but I don't recall it
[03:11] <stdin> someone, with the same IP, same nick and same username as you did
[03:11] <mxweas> I could have just clicked #ubuntu instead of #macosx on accident
[03:12] <mxweas> hmm, then I would assume it was me
[03:12] <mxweas> whoops
[03:12] <mxweas> Am I banned forever because of it?
[03:12] <stdin> 2008-10-27T23:37:29 <jrib> mxweas: paste exactly what you are typing
[03:12] <stdin> 2008-10-27T23:37:37 <mxweas> my fdisk help doesn't show a -l option
[03:12] <stdin> 2008-10-27T23:37:42 <mxweas> jrib: I did
[03:12] <stdin> 2008-10-27T23:37:49 <jrib> mxweas: are you using ubuntu?
[03:12] <stdin> 2008-10-27T23:37:53 <mxweas> I tried using sudo, sudo su, and su -
[03:12] <stdin> 2008-10-27T23:37:59 <mxweas> jrib: no macosx
[03:12] <stdin> 2008-10-27T23:38:00 <mxweas> :P
[03:12] <mxweas> hmm
[03:12] <mxweas> I guess it was me then...
[03:13] <mxweas> Who do I apologize to?
[03:13] <stdin> LjL was the one to set the ban, so you should probably speak to them
[03:14] <stdin> unless another op feels the need to step in
[03:14] <mxweas> Where do I speak to LjL?
[03:14] <mneptok> here, when he is active.
[03:15] <mneptok>  /whois LjL LjL
[03:15] <mneptok> that will tell you when he is active
[03:15] <mxweas> ah thx
[03:16] <mxweas> Well, if someone sees him before I do. Please tell him I'm sorry about the whole Mac OS X thing. I do appreciate the #ubuntu channel and all of the support it has given me.
[03:17] <mxweas> Just a quick question of curiosity, who makes the names for ubuntu? I find them fairly interesting.
[03:18] <stdin> !names
[03:18] <ubottu> Ubuntu has an $adjective $animal naming scheme, summarized (and with a list of suggested words which you can add to) at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[03:19] <mxweas> very nice
[03:19] <mxweas> Thanks
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[04:10] <nickrud> tritium, what was that all about? 
[04:10] <tritium> nickrud: which?
[04:11] <tritium> If you mean why Floodbot kicked lala_lala, I have no idea how that happened.
[04:11] <tritium> I was going to +q for a moment until he stopped repeating.
[04:12] <nickrud> ok. I misread a bit there, I see floodbot3 now
[04:12] <tritium> It confused me, to be quite honest.
[04:13] <tritium> I literally did /mode +q lala_lala, and that was the result.
[04:14] <nickrud> I doubt it was causal, unless the floodbots are worshiping you now
[04:15] <tritium> heh ;)
[04:52] <elkbuntu> mneptok, we really ought to put the flames out soon.
[04:53] <mneptok> awww
[04:56]  * elkbuntu waits for godwin.
[04:56] <elkbuntu> you *know* it's going to happen
[04:57] <mneptok> i KNEW you'd say something like, you little Hitler!
[04:57] <mneptok> gawd DAMN it! you got me.
[04:58]  * nalioth has a hot k-stick.  Be wary.
[04:59] <elkbuntu> nalioth, hawk costco.
[04:59] <nalioth> elkbuntu: mouse shingle.
[05:00] <elkbuntu> he's already called us racist because apt-get is the ubuntu standard.
[05:00] <tritium> elkbuntu: in which channel is this going on?
[05:00]  * nalioth is totally lost.
[05:00] <elkbuntu> tritium, -offtopic
[05:00] <tritium> Ah.
[05:01] <elkbuntu> nalioth, when i say hawk, i mean watch the following as though it were a future dinner.
[05:02] <nalioth> ah
[05:05] <tritium> #ubuntu-offtopic is pure torture, I say.
[05:16] <tritium> Gah, politics on top!
[05:19] <elkbuntu> has anyone seen proof for or against the rumor that the obama campaign was using ubuntu?
[05:22] <tritium> Both campaigns did, from what I understand.
[05:24]  * tritium could care less
[06:42] <stdin> any reason #ubuntu is +r ?
[06:44] <stdin> tritium ^
[06:44] <tritium> stdin: I don't know
[06:44] <stdin> tritium: well you set it
[06:44] <stdin> * tritium sets invite on told!*@*
[06:44] <stdin> * tritium sets ban on %lala_lala!*@*
[06:44] <stdin> * tritium sets mode +r #ubuntu
[06:44] <stdin> * tritium sets exempt on DBAN!*@*
[06:45] <tritium> Something went seriously wrong there.
[06:45] <stdin> #ubuntu-unregged is filling up now
[06:46] <tritium> All that above was supposed to _only_ be a +q on lala_lala.
[06:46] <tritium> I have no idea why all the other actions took place.
[06:47] <tritium> Floodbot then kicked lala_lala.  It was very odd.
[06:48] <stdin> I guess it saw you ban them, then banned the real IP and kicked
[06:49] <stdin> all the bot said about it was "<FloodBot1> Banning gateway user lala_lala"
[06:49] <tritium> NOt sure
[06:54] <tritium> stdin: thanks for pointing that out.
[06:54] <stdin> I only noticed on a random check of #ubuntu-unregged
[06:55] <tritium> I'm glad you did.
[06:59] <tritium> Thanks again, stdin.  I should get myself to bed now.
[07:00] <stdin> no problem, everyone makes mistakes :)
[07:00] <tritium> Good night.  :)
[07:05] <ubottu> FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[07:05] <ubottu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[07:05] <ubottu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[07:49] <ubottu> stdin called the ops in #ubuntu (zloy)
[07:50] <stdin> bazhang: don't look, it's bad
[07:51] <bazhang> stdin, too late
[07:52] <bazhang> he has been removed
[07:52] <bazhang> @mark zloy #ubuntu foul spam
[07:52] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[07:53] <stdin> there's no need to mark if you mute/ban/remove/kick
[07:53] <bazhang> ok sorry
[07:54] <stdin> it's just a note, not like one more bt entry will make ubottu explode :p
[07:54] <bazhang> hehe
[07:59] <bazhang> KukMan, zloy needs to come here.
[07:59] <KukMan> bazhang: ok.
[07:59] <bazhang> KukMan, not a joke. not funny at all.
[07:59] <zloy> hi
[07:59] <bazhang> KukMan, you can depart please
[07:59] <zloy> can you unban me?
[08:00] <bazhang> KukMan, no need for you to stay.
[08:00] <stdin> do you think posing that is appropriate in #ubuntu?
[08:00] <zloy> guys
[08:00] <bazhang> zloy, what you pasted was really foul.
[08:00] <zloy> it's just image
[08:01] <zloy> nothing else
[08:01] <bazhang> zloy, that was the wrong image to paste.
[08:01] <stdin> I'm not sure which guideline it violates most, not to mention the CoC
[08:01] <bazhang> Dim2^1024, may we help you
[08:01] <zloy> i'm sorry for that
[08:02] <bazhang> Dim2^1024, what may we help you with
[08:02] <zloy> i didn't know
[08:02] <bazhang> zloy, is Dim2^1024 your friend?
[08:02] <zloy> no
[08:02] <zloy> but i know him
[08:02] <bazhang> Dim2^1024, do you have any business here?
[08:03] <Dim2^1024> support of comp
[08:03] <bazhang> this is the wrong channel Dim2^1024 
[08:03] <bazhang> try #ubuntu-ru Dim2^1024 
[08:03] <zloy> )))
[08:03] <Dim2^1024> what??
[08:03] <zloy> bazhang: man
[08:03] <bazhang> this is not a support channel Dim2^1024 
[08:04] <Dim2^1024> i now
[08:04] <zloy> bazhang: do it
[08:04] <bazhang> zloy, we will talk in a minute.
[08:04] <zloy> please
[08:04] <zloy> ok
[08:04] <bazhang> when Dim2^1024 has departed
[08:04] <bazhang> zloy, that was against the code of conduct
[08:04] <bazhang> !coc
[08:04] <ubottu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[08:04] <zloy> ok
[08:04] <bazhang> zloy, and the guidelines
[08:05] <bazhang> !guidelines
[08:05] <ubottu> The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:05] <bazhang> zloy, you are a Russian speaker yes?
[08:05] <zloy> yeah, but i know many languages
[08:06] <bazhang> zloy, then you should be getting support in #ubuntu-ru
[08:06] <zloy> i know
[08:06] <bazhang> and not pasting those kind of very bad images in #ubuntu.
[08:06] <zloy> but also i want get support in #ubuntu
[08:06] <zloy> ok
[08:07] <bazhang> your friend kukman said it was a joke.
[08:07] <zloy> i understand
[08:07] <zloy> it was
[08:07] <bazhang> do you think that is a funny joke?
[08:07] <zloy> for me - yes
[08:07] <bazhang> disrupting the #ubuntu channel with that kind of image?
[08:08] <bazhang> it was not funny at all.
[08:08] <bazhang> and you will not be unbanned any time in the near future.
[08:08] <elkbuntu> oh, this wouldn't be the same group who thought it was funny to ask for sex in #ubuntu-women now, would it?
[08:08] <bazhang> you have #ubuntu-ru for support, I suggest you use it
[08:08] <zloy> i have understood it
[08:08] <bazhang> elkbuntu, I would not be surprised at all.
[08:09] <elkbuntu> then if so, they really have no respect for anyone else, and should be ashamed.
[08:09] <bazhang> zloy, were you in other channels making those kinds of comments?
[08:10] <elkbuntu> this is a long time ago. i thought they'd grown up.
[08:10] <bazhang> apparently not.
[08:10] <zloy> nowhere
[08:11] <bazhang> zloy, you dont have any credibility at this point.
[08:11] <zloy> don't
[08:11] <bazhang> what you consider funny others find repugnant and disgusting.
[08:12] <zloy> i apologized for that
[08:12] <bazhang> that wont do.
[08:12] <elkbuntu> yes, but then you posted goatse in #ubuntu.
[08:12] <zloy> i understand my mistake
[08:12] <zloy> sorry for that
[08:13] <bazhang> zloy, is there anything else? you will NOT be unbanned
[08:13] <bazhang> polatov, how may we help you
[08:13] <elkbuntu> polatov, if you're here to watch, dont even think about it.
[08:14] <zloy> why?
[08:15] <bazhang> you know why.
[08:15] <zloy> i promise you
[08:15] <elkbuntu> zloy, because you clearly cannot behave.
[08:15] <bazhang> too late.
[08:15] <zloy> what time i will be banned?
[08:16] <elkbuntu> the fact that there are russians and khazakstanis coming in to watch means you're probably in #ubuntu-ru laughing your head off.
[08:16] <bazhang> zloy, that is not something to think about.
[08:16] <bazhang> dmsuperman, how may we help you
[08:17] <dmsuperman> bazhang: If you'd be so kind just jump on over to -offtopic
[08:17] <zloy> aaa
[08:17] <elkbuntu> zloy, when you proove you can behave in accordance with the ubuntu code of conduct, you may ask that question.
[08:17] <dmsuperman> bazhang: Nothing totally serious, it's just getting a bit flamey
[08:17] <zloy> can you give me last chance?
[08:17] <bazhang> costco?
[08:17] <dmsuperman> Aye
[08:17] <dmsuperman> As much as everyone disagrees with him I can see this turning into an "fine I'll leave and never come back" situation
[08:18] <zloy> i've read conduct
[08:19] <elkbuntu> dmsuperman, i doubt it. he likes having everyone arguing with him. he's doing it for attention
[08:20] <dmsuperman> spose
[08:20] <bazhang> zloy, wait a moment.
[08:20] <zloy> ok
[08:20] <bazhang> dmsuperman, anything else? 
[08:21] <dmsuperman> Nope, that was it
[08:21] <dmsuperman> btw, thanks
[08:21] <bazhang> zloy, there is nothing to discuss.
[08:21] <bazhang> zloy, you have had more than one chance already.
[08:21] <zloy> hm
[08:22] <zloy> ok
[08:22] <bazhang> yeah.
[08:22] <zloy> sorry for that
[08:22] <zloy> good bye
[08:22] <bazhang> Kukman is still in #ubuntu
[08:22] <bazhang> did not see the others.
[08:24] <elkbuntu> bazhang, remove them as they mess up
[08:24] <bazhang> elkbuntu, ok
[08:32] <elkbuntu> i'd love to know how much costco is getting paid by nero and rosetta stone vendors...
[08:38] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: are you watching -women?
[08:40] <elkbuntu> i was... i knew they were going to do that again
[08:40] <Myrtti> they've been there before?
[08:40] <elkbuntu> bazhang, are you watching costco
[08:40] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, those are The Russians.
[08:40] <elkbuntu> from two releases ago
[08:41] <elkbuntu> when i stupidly entered #ubuntu-ru to try stop them spamming ##windows
[08:41] <Myrtti> ah
[08:41] <bazhang> elkbuntu, sure am watching him; imo he and netyire should have a vacation from -ot
[08:43] <bazhang> they both make inflammatory statements then respond with 'oh I was just joking' kind of attitudes
[08:44] <bazhang> netyire is worse imo
[08:44] <bazhang> he is always advertising the #politics channel
[08:44] <bazhang> KukMan, how may we help you
[08:45] <KukMan> Are #ubuntu-women one of official ubuntu channels?
[08:45] <KukMan> Is*
[08:45] <bazhang> KukMan, why does that concern you?
[08:45] <KukMan> Can you unban me there?
[08:46] <bazhang> KukMan, you have no need to be there.
=== KukMan is now known as KukWoMan
[08:46] <KukWoMan> why? 
[08:46] <bazhang> KukMan, it is a channel for women
[08:46] <elkbuntu> bazhang, i just banned zloy from there.
[08:46] <KukWoMan> one moment
[08:46] <bazhang> elkbuntu, not surprised
[08:46] <KukWoMan> sory
[08:46] <KukWoMan> )
[08:46] <bazhang> he likely got the idea from kukman
[08:47] <stdin> 1) it's "sorry". 2) no, you're not
[08:52] <stdin> bazhang: they seem to be just playing with us now http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/2008/11/21/%23ubuntu-ru.html
[08:54] <zloy> anybody is here
[08:54] <zloy> ?
[08:55] <Myrtti> sure... do tell your business
[08:55] <Myrtti> no, you're not getting unbanned
[08:55] <stdin> or save us all some time and leave
[08:55] <zloy> maybe anybady may explain me?
[08:55] <elkbuntu> zloy, you thought i wouldnt notice you in -women. this is why you're not unbanned.
[08:55] <zloy> when i well be unbanned?
[08:56] <Myrtti> not in the near future, in -women, probably never
[08:56] <bazhang> no time soon zloy 
[08:56] <zloy> #ubuntu-women not interesting for me
[08:56] <bazhang> zloy, I can read Russian
[08:56] <bazhang> zloy, and I see what you are saying in #ubuntu-ru
[08:56] <zloy> i may translate you
[08:57] <Myrtti> haha funnay.
[08:57] <zloy> wellcome to #ubuntu-ru
[08:57] <Myrtti> anything else?
[08:57] <bazhang> zloy, so no you will not be unbanned in #ubuntu
[08:57] <zloy> bazhang: why?
[08:58] <zloy> explain me please
[08:58] <bazhang> zloy, you know why.
[08:58] <zloy> i don't
[08:58] <bazhang> zloy, because you think you did nothing wrong and that it is funny still.
[08:58] <zloy> i fix my mistakes
[08:58] <elkbuntu> zloy, i'm yet to see you do so.
[08:58] <bazhang> you and polatav and kukman and dim
[08:58] <bazhang> zloy, no.
[08:59] <elkbuntu> * zloy_yobar (n=kvirc@195.238.92.107) has joined #ubuntu-women
[08:59] <elkbuntu> <zloy_yobar> hi girls
[08:59] <elkbuntu> <zloy_yobar> show me your tits
[08:59] <zloy> i think alreade that was not funny
[08:59] <elkbuntu> that is how i know you have not changed.
[08:59] <bazhang> zloy, it is not only #ubuntu.
[08:59] <elkbuntu> * zloy (n=kvirc@195.238.92.107) has joined #ubuntu-ops
[08:59] <bazhang> zloy, this server does not appreciate that kind of harassment
[09:00] <bazhang> zloy, step 1: stop the really wrong behaviour.
[09:00] <bazhang> zloy, step 2 forget about being unbanned
[09:01] <zloy> why for 2 step?
[09:01] <zloy> i want be free )))
[09:01] <Myrtti> whining usually isn't the way
[09:01] <bazhang> zloy, you are free to help other people with the ubuntu problems
[09:01] <stdin> you are free
[09:01] <stdin> to find another server to harass
[09:01] <zloy> ok
[09:01] <bazhang> zloy, you are NOT free to harass and abuse other users
[09:02] <zloy> my behavior will be good
[09:02] <bazhang> zloy, step 3: find another server.
[09:02] <zloy> sorry for that
[09:02] <zloy> i like this server
[09:02] <Myrtti> zloy: you are not going to be unbanned in the near future
[09:03] <stdin> just leave and accept that you are banned
[09:03] <zloy> Myrtti: shut up, i don't speak with you!
[09:03] <bazhang> zloy, you will not be unbanned.
[09:03] <bazhang> stdin, thanks for the logs.
[09:04] <bazhang> stdin, they were laughing their heads off and changing their names to feminine ones
[09:04] <bazhang> polotov to polotova etc
[09:05] <Myrtti> [11:04] ~~~KukMan [n=kukman@91.198.249.199] has joined #ubuntu
[09:05] <Myrtti> he just banaverted
[09:05] <jussi01> Hi all!
[09:05] <bazhang> svaksha, how may we help you
[09:05] <bazhang> hi jussi01 
[09:05] <elkbuntu> !staff
[09:05] <ubottu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian or PriceChild, I could  use a bit of your time :)
[09:05] <Myrtti> gmoin jussi01 
[09:05] <jussi01> morning Myrtti bazhang
[09:05]  * christel stands to attention
[09:06] <bazhang> Myrtti, I did not ban kukman yet
[09:06] <Myrtti> I did
[09:06] <Myrtti> he was changing nicks so I banned and kicked him
[09:06] <Myrtti> if a reason is needed, it's that
[09:06] <bazhang> k
[09:06] <Myrtti> "unnecessary scrolling"
[09:06] <elkbuntu> christel, we are having issues with the #ubuntu-ru kiddies. we may need your help
[09:06] <christel> is kukman the zloy guy?
[09:07] <christel> zloy klined
[09:07] <elkbuntu> christel, no, just associates
[09:07] <bazhang> svaksha, how may we help you?
[09:07] <svaksha> bazhang: Myrtti mentioned the bans on UW so i came to check
[09:07] <Myrtti> hi svaksha :-) you can follow the fun action at the logs if you want, this is the ops hotline and you might get stomped here
[09:08] <svaksha> Myrtti: ok
[09:08] <bazhang> Dim2^1024 and polatov
[09:08] <svaksha> are non-ops not welcome?
[09:08] <elkbuntu> svaksha, crossfire sometimes happens
[09:08] <christel> elkbuntu: is the harassment and sexism and weirdness targetted to u-w? and would you mind if i lurked there so i can catch them a bit quicker?
[09:08] <elkbuntu> svaksha, onlookers only serve to excite the really fun trolls
[09:09] <elkbuntu> christel, you're most welcome there
[09:09] <Myrtti> christel: lurk all you want, join the discussion too
[09:09] <svaksha> christel: yes, olease do
[09:09] <Myrtti> we'd love to have you there
[09:09] <christel> thank you darlings :)
[09:09] <svaksha> please do
[09:09] <bazhang> <costco> any religion by definetion is a cult
[09:11] <elkbuntu> well, it is true, but time for him to go
[09:13] <Myrtti> how nice that the logs are hotupdated
[09:29] <Myrtti> [11:28] < PUNISHER> dNetFox, my english is not very good, then can you speack ru?
[09:29] <Myrtti> spooky
[09:29] <ikonia> who are the ops in -ru
[09:29] <ikonia> surly they have a responsability as it's an official loco channel
[09:30] <ikonia> I've just been reading the back logs and it looks like -ru is having a laugh, surly the -ru ops havea  responsability to not to allow this
[09:30] <Myrtti> the opsflags have been edited just a few weeks ago
[09:30] <ikonia> who are they though ?
[09:31] <ikonia> if it's an offiical channel, there must be a responsability to make sure it's members are not baiting others
[09:31] <Myrtti> /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-ru list
[09:31] <ikonia> these -ru jokes are regular
[09:32] <ikonia> I'm asking out loud, maybe one of the irc-council members can speak to them, find out if they are staffed enough or remind them of their responsability
[09:36] <elkbuntu> ikonia, find me a responsible russian-speaking individual on irc and i'll happily use them as a shield.
[09:37] <Flannel> Alexzzz looks (I assume) to be trying to talk to him now
[09:37] <ikonia> I'm calling the ops in -ru now see if anyof them respond
[09:37] <elkbuntu> oh, and they usually write english in cyrillic
[09:37] <elkbuntu> so if you can read cyrillic, you can mostly follow them, i'm told
[09:37] <ikonia> if they aren't responsiblt should they be running an official channel ?
[09:38] <elkbuntu> ikonia, last time i went in there, it started this whole mess.
[09:38] <ikonia> well, none of their ops are online apart from one
[09:39] <elkbuntu> and is he responding?
[09:39] <ikonia> nope
[09:39] <ikonia> so that channel is totally unmanned
[09:41] <ikonia> damned was last seen online 87 weeks ago, I think he can be assumed MIA
[09:42] <ikonia> and [bot] has not been online for 2 years
[09:42] <elkbuntu> nalioth, PriceChild, LjL what do you all think?
[09:47] <ikonia> I've just had to remove ilyak from the linux from scratch irc server
[09:47] <ikonia> there is still "stuff" going on in -ru
[09:48] <elkbuntu> ikonia, they followed you there?
[09:48] <ikonia> no
[09:48] <ikonia> I think it was just co-incidence
[09:49] <ikonia> as the LFS servers are not listed on my "whois" as they are not on freenode
[09:49] <elkbuntu> true, but your name is googleable
[09:49] <elkbuntu> they googled me
[09:49] <ikonia> true
[09:50] <elkbuntu> christel, what do you recommend we do? steal the channel back?
[09:50] <christel> lets see
[09:50] <Gary> do you know any russians who can be given ops?
[09:50] <christel> yo certainly can
[09:51] <christel> as in, you have the ability to as gc
[09:51] <christel> and if they're not representing ubuntu in the best possible way (which i suspect is rather the opposite of what they do) i'd say taking back control and looking for a trusted russian ubuntu member to run it may be a better move
[09:52] <Myrtti> what if no trusted russians can be found >__<
[09:52] <Myrtti> not that I'm saying it is so
[09:52] <christel> having some dimwit run it has the adverse effect of any newcomers entering thinking that this guy(s) representing the project and that their behaviour/attitude/opinions are those of the project
[09:52] <christel> Myrtti: then er, i dunno.. in soviet russia...
[09:52] <Gary> sounds like #ubuntu-uk christel 
[09:53] <Gary> oh, thats me, damn
[09:53] <ikonia> as my only line in -ru was to ask if the online online op was available I think they would be over the top to google me for that
[09:53] <elkbuntu> christel, the problem is i dont feel safe just going in there. i cant op it if i'm too scared of earning stalkers.
[09:54] <ikonia> (sorry connection dropped for a minute)
[09:54] <ikonia> elkbuntu: explain what you want done, I have no interest/concern of stalkers
[09:54] <elkbuntu> ikonia, they /whois'd and googled me for merely entering last year
[09:55] <ikonia> they can google me all hey want, it just comes up with my FOS/music/motorsport projects
[09:55] <ikonia> nothing secret
[09:55] <elkbuntu> bazhang, were you serious when you said you could read russian?
[09:56] <bazhang> elkbuntu, yep
[09:56] <elkbuntu> ikonia, bazhang you're now in charge of -ru. christel make it so.
[09:56] <ikonia> bazhang: impressive
[09:56] <christel> do you/anyone else have a good rapport with anyone in #-ru?
[09:56] <christel> ok!
[09:56] <bazhang> studied it for about 3 and a half years
[09:56] <christel> bazhang: are you up for that challenge and trying to kick it back into shape? :)
[09:56] <elkbuntu> christel, i suspect there's a -irc person there, but i cannot remember who, and it's at the point they're useless.
[09:56] <ikonia> well, I can't speak russian, but I'm happy to take the rap for removing the people
[09:56] <christel> aha nod
[09:56] <Flannel> bazhang \o/
[09:57] <ikonia> there is nothing "secret" on google about me
[09:57] <bazhang> christel, well my writing is way rusty :)
[09:57] <christel> Flags +vVoOtsriRfA were set on bazhang in #ubuntu-ru.
[09:57] <christel> have a ball! ;)
[09:57] <bazhang> thanks christel 
[09:57] <elkbuntu> bazhang, you just have to understand what they're saying, really
[09:57] <ikonia> may be nice to talk to the existing guys too, find out what's been going on
[09:57]  * Myrtti chuckles
[09:58] <ikonia> 5 of them have been online in the last day or so
[09:58] <christel> now, its not in my place to say --  but i suspect some people may be angry, so you may wish to encourage people to come speak with the irc council (in english), be it in here or a place better suited to explain the situation
[09:58] <christel> (alternatively write up a small document explaining it to point people at) so as to try not have them all jump on bazhang and kill him in his first day on the job :o
[09:58]  * jussi01 hugs christel :)
[09:59] <bazhang> hehe
[09:59] <christel> (thatd suck and we'd all be back at square one! i hate it when that happens)
[09:59]  * christel hugs jussi01 
[10:00] <jussi01> The document sounds a good Idea to me - documentation always looks more official
[10:01] <christel> nod, it also keeps means that you cant have people picking fault/differences because elkbuntu worded it this way and nalioth that way etc
[10:01] <jussi01> yeah, good point
[10:05] <elkbuntu> either way, it's been going on too long and has to stop
[10:05] <christel> noodle
[10:06] <Myrtti> mmmm noodles
[10:08] <ikonia> nice call chaps
[10:12] <elkbuntu> are they still going?
[10:13] <ikonia> no idea can't read russian
[10:13] <ikonia> not seen any other trouble
[10:14] <ikonia> lots of talk about module versions, so looks nice and supporty
[10:24] <bazhang> they are sticking to business so far
[10:24] <bazhang> its not a big channel so not that hard to spot bad actors
[10:24] <ikonia> you are their critique ?
[10:34] <ikonia> zloy just woke up:)
[10:35] <svaksha> ikonia: uh..oh
[10:37] <ikonia> svaksha: do you need something ?
[10:37] <jussi01> wasnt zloy klined?
[10:39] <ikonia> ahh he wants bazhang to unban him
[10:39] <bazhang> * [zloy] (n=intel@62.244.21.110): intel
[10:40] <bazhang> what is the k-line version of ban evading?
[10:40] <bazhang> k-line vading?
[10:40] <ikonia> k-line evading
[10:42] <bazhang> polatov seems to be the ring leader as it were
[10:43] <elkbuntu> christel, still alive?
[10:44] <elkbuntu> bazhang, a k-line is a ban, so it's still ban evading ;)
[10:48] <bazhang> might I suggest that further discussion about loco channels be in -irc?
[10:49] <ikonia> probably better as the locao guys are all there
[10:49] <bazhang> yep
[10:53] <elkbuntu> do we have a document yet?
[10:54] <jussi01> dont think so...
[10:55] <elkbuntu> brb, restarting so i have sound again
[11:11] <elkbuntu> this is so anticlimactic
[11:12] <Myrtti> hmmm
[11:12] <Myrtti> http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/S60browser/index.html I swear to god, I had no idea
[11:19] <Myrtti> [13:18] < costco> hey those who want to go really offtopic with me join me in  #completelyofftopic in kubric.freenode.net
[11:30] <elkbuntu> is it a full moon?
[11:30] <Myrtti> excuse me but wth.
[11:31] <elkbuntu> that's kinda the whole point of my question
[11:56] <christel> elkbuntu: thanks, klined
[12:01] <Myrtti> jebus, 60 unread emails
[12:03] <jussi01> only?
[12:06] <Myrtti> I'm not going to say which inbox
[12:09] <Myrtti> which inboxes
[12:13]  * ikonia is an idiot
[12:16] <Myrtti> I'm a twit.
[12:17] <Myrtti> moving over...
[12:22] <elkbuntu> ikonia, why?
[12:23] <ikonia> just did a @makr in -offtopic, meant to do it in here
[12:23] <elkbuntu> hehe
[12:23] <ikonia> a mark even
[12:23] <ikonia> see, I'm an idiot
[12:23]  * elkbuntu hugs ikonia
[12:23] <ikonia> appriciated
[12:43] <ompaul> note that `ams is not ams the gnu guy - he would not go into #ubuntu 
[12:43]  * ompaul thinks this is a sad and cheap impersonator 
[12:43] <ompaul> but that is me
[12:43] <ompaul> ;-)
[12:47] <Pici> Hi friends
[12:48] <ikonia> hi Pici 
[12:48] <ikonia> Hi Dr Nick
[12:48] <Pici> :)
[12:49] <ikonia> $10 says fatherjack in #ubuntu says "feck"
[12:49]  * ikonia revokes bet quickly
[13:30] <LjL> have you seen what a cute bot they have in #bash?
[13:49] <ikonia> no
[13:49] <ikonia> is it worth a look ?
[13:49] <Pici> The faq one?
[13:49] <LjL> ikonia: well it was for me
[13:49] <LjL> no
[13:49] <LjL> it's a bash shell
[13:49] <LjL> running under qemu
[13:50] <LjL> i'm told you can have fun and try to exploit it in #evalbot
[13:50] <LjL> though it wasn't the owner saying that, so beware
[13:50] <ikonia> interesting
[13:51] <LjL> i've been trying to exploit it by feeding it an executable binary via "echo", but ELF just appears to be too bulky for that
[13:51] <LjL> the trigger is $ command if you want to try it
[13:51] <Pici> bad LjL 
[13:52] <LjL> Pici: better i do it before someone else does! ;P
[14:05] <LjL> meh, i fail
[14:05] <ikonia> ha ha
[14:27] <LjL> look at the current burst of joins
[14:27] <LjL> three of them are quassel, two of them are the same host
[14:28] <Myrtti> http://nokiaaddict.com/2008/11/17/what%e2%80%99s-installed-in-the-nokia-e71-nov-2008/
[15:23] <LjL> God_ is spamming people in PM again, pici
[15:23] <LjL> see #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:24] <Pici> LjL: I just saw, my notices window was lighting up
[15:27] <ikonia> @mark dino_debian #ubuntu is another alais for "virus bot" user recently returned from a k-line
[15:27] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[15:28] <ikonia> vorian: I assume the network ban you put on him was only temporary and he's allowed back in now ?
[15:55]  * genii puts on a fresh pot of coffee
[15:57] <ikonia> @bansearch shinoj
[15:57] <ubottu> No matches found for shinoj!n=shinoj@117.97.25.41 in any channel
[15:58] <ikonia> @btlogin
[15:58] <ikonia> ubottu: wake up
[15:58] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wake up
[15:58] <ikonia> @btlogin
[15:59] <ikonia> I was sure shinoj was banned by ljl
[16:01] <LjL> ikonia, shinoj was banned by the bots due to ctcping the channel
[16:01] <ikonia> he doesn't show up in BT
[16:01] <LjL> ikonia: you need to search for the IP
[16:01] <ikonia> nothing shows up on 117.97.25.41
[16:02] <LjL> ikonia: was a different ip. anyway i unbanned him because he seemed to behave (although technically ban evading, but most likely not intentionally) later
[16:03] <ikonia> 04:16 -!- shinoj [n=shinoj@1ലàµ
[16:03] <ikonia> 04:22 < shinoj> ഹàµà´ലàµ
[16:03] <ikonia> 04:25 < shinoj> !à´à´ബàµ
[16:03] <ikonia> 04:25 < shinoj> !tab
[16:03] <ikonia> 15:57 < shinoj> :-)
[16:03] <ikonia> thats all he seems to type
[16:04] <ikonia> I remember him going on in here, hence my query
[16:04] <LjL> i don't know
[16:04] <LjL> feel free to reban
[16:04] <ikonia> not off that
[16:04] <ikonia> I was just curious to if he was evading 
[16:04] <ikonia> I remember he did evade and someone re-banned him
[16:06] <genii> Maybe he doesn't know how to get to #ubuntu-in
[17:06] <Escsun> christel, hi ^^
[17:06] <Pici> Escsun: How can we help you today?
[17:07] <ikonia> another -ru user
[17:08] <Pici> Escsun: This channel is not for idling in, please see the /topic
[17:10] <Pici> !idle | Escsun 
[17:10] <ubottu> Escsun: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.
[17:10] <Pici> Odd.
[17:13] <christel> well, that was, different
[17:22] <LeNsTR> о_О
[17:22] <LeNsTR> ку алл
[17:22] <LjL> !english
[17:22] <ubottu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[17:22] <LeNsTR> ehuh
[17:23] <LeNsTR> hi all)
[17:23] <LjL> hello
[17:23] <LjL> how can we help
[17:24] <LeNsTR> hmm
[17:24] <LeNsTR> I think)
[17:25] <LeNsTR> eh
[17:25] <LeNsTR> bye
[17:25] <Pici> Why are we getting random people from -ru channels in here? Did I miss something?
[17:25] <LjL> Pici: it's not the first?
[17:26] <Pici> LjL: Escsun around 15 minutes ago too
[17:26] <LjL> ah, he was from -ru?
[17:27] <LjL> might be bazhang's fault
[17:27] <Pici> There was a mention of issues with -ru users in #ubuntu-irc, thats why I noticed it.
[17:27] <LjL> whops
[17:28] <LjL> Gary: what's zloy doing?
[17:28] <Gary> being a pain, t'was one of the ones who trolled #ubuntu-women earlier
[17:28] <PriceChild> LjL: What happenned with God_ earlier?
[17:28] <LjL> Gary: not only that, check BT
[17:28] <LjL> PriceChild: he was harassing cwillu in -ot
[17:29] <PriceChild> LjL: was he identified?
[17:29] <jpds> Is it full moon already?
[17:29] <LjL> PriceChild: need to see if i have a whois, hold on
[17:30] <PriceChild> LjL: identify-msg ftw.
[17:30] <Gary> PriceChild: he is not identified at the mo
[17:30] <LjL> PriceChild: i'd rather not have everything prefixed with a plus
[17:30] <Pici> PriceChild: He wasn't this time.
[17:31] <PriceChild> Actually I don't think he would be identified to the account named  "God_" so identify-msg would be useless.
[17:31] <Pici> God_(n=nottelli@pool-71-172-197-89.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)- lkol
[17:31] <PriceChild> Right I know that one then.
[17:31] <PriceChild> Give me a ping if he appears again.
[17:31] <LjL> PriceChild: wasn't identified
[17:32] <PriceChild> (speaking as staff here)
[17:32] <Pici> Thats how he was noticing me  2 hours ago.
[17:42] <Gary> ummm, is posting that link in a ubuntu loco channel on topic?
[17:42] <LjL> Gary: what link?
[17:43] <Gary> (the dodgy stars and goatse one)
[17:43] <Gary> I am so not posting it here
[17:43] <PriceChild> Which channel?
[17:43] <LjL> Gary: i don't know, the BT says to not look at it, so i didn't look at it
[17:43] <LjL> my wild guess, Gary, would be HELL NO
[17:43] <PriceChild> oh, ignore me
[17:44] <Gary> LjL: it's a great image, as long as you do not scroll down enough
[17:53] <christel> Gary: zloy is kline evading?
[17:54] <LjL> christel: i don't know if he had been k-lined, but he posted the same (bad) link in #ubuntu-ru that he posted in #ubuntu, apparently
[17:54] <Gary> is he, was he klined earlier then?
[17:54] <christel> Gary: yes, several times
[17:54] <Gary> ahh
[17:55] <LjL> christel: then yes
[17:55] <christel> danke
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[18:13] <ikonia> LjL: give jrpetro a nudge will you I don't think his english is great but he seems to have learnt how to whois me and insists that I "suck" and various other combinations in pm 
[18:13] <ikonia> he sent them while I was on the tube, may not hurt to explain thats not how to hang out in #ubuntu channels
[18:14] <Gary> LjL: what was that in english?
[18:15] <LjL> Gary: "does someone want to join my gang" or something
[18:15] <ikonia> he does seem to speak english ok, but is hanging out in #ubunut-it-chat, so I assume his primary language is english
[18:15] <LjL> ikonia: makes sense.
[18:15] <LjL> ikonia: i'll ask the it ops
[18:15] <ikonia> I meant italian
[18:15] <ikonia> ahh perfect
[18:15] <LjL> i know...
[18:17] <LjL> (which if funny because that would theoretically mean i'd ask myself, as i'm theoretically one of them *shrug*)
[18:18] <ikonia> I just thought you may be able to get the request across a little better than e, as I don't know how good their english is 
[18:18] <Myrtti> one of *THEM*, you say
[18:18] <LjL> ikonia: for the record... he never spoke in -it* before. now he did, but in english
[18:18] <LjL> so he's probably as italian as i am armenian
[18:19] <ikonia> he spoke english in #ubuntu earlier
[18:20] <LjL> ikonia: yes, and he's only speaking english in #ubuntu-it-chat too. he asked the same nvidia question
[18:20] <ikonia> ugh
[18:20] <ikonia> how random
[18:20] <ikonia> pick a random language channel ask in English
[18:21] <LjL> ikonia: yes, and the fact that his host is *.net also makes me think he's not italian at all
[18:21] <LjL> (my own host is .net but it's a bit of an exception)
[18:21] <ikonia> I don't read too much into hosts, but it's a valid comment
[18:22] <ikonia> he's pm'ing me for support now
[18:22] <LjL> ikonia: i'd suggest giving him !pm in #ubuntu so we start to have something logged
[18:22] <ikonia> why he'd want support from someone who sucks - well thats beyond me
[18:23] <ikonia> he just seems frustrated, but doesn't get that frustration is not a green light to stay what you wwant
[18:24] <LjL> ikonia: whois has that hostname located in Phoenix...
[18:24] <ikonia> your right then usa
[18:25] <LjL> ikonia: check -chat
[18:25] <LjL> note how he connected from a clone now...
[18:29] <ikonia> why would he do that ?
[18:29] <ikonia> he's not banned or anything
[18:30] <LjL> ikonia: probably just because he's so dumb he thinks he needs to open a new connection.
[18:30] <ikonia> ah
[18:30] <LjL> ikonia: anyway, what you just stated might not be entirely accurate in the near future.
[18:30] <ikonia> ha ha
[18:41] <Gary> can someone get me a list of the nicks of the russian troublemakers from today pls?
[18:43] <ikonia> Gary: /who #ubuntu-ru ;)
[18:43] <ikonia> pretty much
[18:43] <Gary> lol
[18:44] <ikonia> 18:43 < luigi> !it
[18:44] <Gary> I'm in pm with one of their ops at the mo, who seems good
[18:44] <ikonia> worst stereotype ever
[18:44] <ikonia> Gary: may want them to speak with elkbuntu and bazhang 
[18:44] <ikonia> Gary: bazhang pulled a russian speaking skill from no-where and has been monitoring
[18:58] <Gary> amaranth so should enable enforce
[19:10] <PriceChild> where did amaranth go?
[19:11] <LjL> ikonia: you on 8.10?
[19:12] <ikonia> yup
[19:12] <ikonia> sorry connecion dropped
[19:12] <LjL> ikonia: what does lsb_release -d say on it?
[19:12] <ikonia> ubuntu 8.10
[19:12] <ikonia> Description:	Ubuntu 8.10
[19:12] <LjL> ikonia: right, uppercase not lowercase u
[19:13] <ikonia> correct
[19:13] <LjL> ikonia: i was just making sure the fellow didn't copy and paste.
[19:13] <ikonia> hence the paste rather than me typing
[19:22] <LjL> !ultimate
[19:22] <ubottu> The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[19:23] <LjL> !no ultimate is <reply> The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ultimate Edition
[19:23] <ubottu> I'll remember that LjL
[20:28] <ubottu> In ubottu, Slayer said: Ok, my driver is reading hardware present!
[20:49] <genii> Just curious if anyone has seen jussi01, he was going on a trip and wondered if managed to find an internet connection yet
[20:50] <PriceChild> I heard he was on holiday down under.
[20:51] <Flannel> I heard he got eaten by a bear.
[20:51] <LjL> they don't have the internet there
[20:51] <LjL> they use telegraphs
[20:53] <Myrtti> homing dingos
[20:53] <Flannel> Is that part of RFC1149?
[20:54] <LjL> Flannel: it's part of 9411CFR
[20:55] <LjL> it's down under, duh
[20:55] <Flannel> Ah, thats why I couldn't find it.
[20:55] <ikonia> have you not seen crocodile dundee ?
[20:56] <ikonia> it's a boomerang on a bit of string, you swing it round your head
[20:56] <ikonia> bush telephone
[20:56] <Flannel> That's a bullroarer
[21:00] <genii> Geez I didn't know so many ppl were actually awake in here :)
[22:39] <jussi01> genii: Im here...
[22:39]  * Myrtti jumpglomps jussi01 
[22:39] <jussi01> lol