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[00:06] <ScottK> apachelogger: We should. It's a kmail depends and it's on the CD. [00:06] <apachelogger> then I think this bug indicates a problem with the defaults [00:08] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: For the pykdeuic4 bug fix, pykdeuic4 was always a symlink to pykdeuic4.py and so I just moved the symlink. [00:08] <ScottK-laptop> It would have been more complete probably to move pykdeuic4.py too. [00:09] <apachelogger> well, as said the whole report is pretty much theoretically anyway since -dev depends on the python-kde4 package anyway [00:09] <apachelogger> I am going to try get that sorted once and for all [00:10] <ScottK-laptop> Great. [00:10] * ScottK-laptop goes out to drive kids some more. === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [01:40] <ScottK> apachelogger: Let me know when you figure out how to paste a file via sftp in Dolphin. [01:41] <apachelogger> ScottK: http://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/paste.ogg [01:41] * ScottK moves to the machine with sound. [01:42] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: I'm media impaired. What app do I play that with? [01:43] <apachelogger> ScottK-laptop: dragonplayer [01:43] <ScottK-laptop> Thanks. [01:44] <ScottK-laptop> So I have to have a 'place' predefined? [01:45] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: ? [01:45] <apachelogger> well, it makes things easier [01:45] <apachelogger> you could also use splitview and dragndrop [01:45] <apachelogger> or you just copy then change the url manually and paste [01:45] <ScottK-laptop> OK. I guess I have to get over to my aversion to Dolphin. [01:45] <ScottK-laptop> At least it has tabs now. [01:45] <ScottK-laptop> Thanks. [01:45] <apachelogger> :) [01:47] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: Works. Thanks. [01:48] <ScottK-laptop> Off to clean the kitchen. [02:02] <ScottK-laptop> So when I saw Dolphin split screen it reminded me of Krusader. That works too. [02:03] <ScottK-laptop> Dag nabit, I liked having Konqueror do everything. [02:18] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: I'll sponsor the kdeartwork one. I've having that bug, so I can test it. [02:18] <ScottK-laptop> I've/I'm [04:02] <JontheEchidna> Awesomeness! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFjfk2AAn6s [04:05] <JontheEchidna> I think I'll get some sleep [04:08] <ScottK-laptop> I don't see where they demonstrate ark opening a tar.gz .... [05:14] <NCommander> ScottK, can you ack a backport? [05:17] <rgreening> hey [05:52] <ScottK> NCommander: What? [06:03] <DreadKnight> heya [06:03] <DreadKnight> i would like to try to update 8.04 to intrepid beta (64 bits) again [06:04] <DreadKnight> last time X wouldn't start i think [06:04] <DreadKnight> Intel GMA 950 [06:04] <DreadKnight> anything i could have done from the command line to get it running? [06:29] <NCommander> ScottK, xen 3.3 === ubuntu is now known as DreadKnight === jords__ is now known as jords [15:06] <ryanakca> Riddell: Have you received any screenshots of KDE4/Intrepid? If not, how should we get them... ask the Planet? [15:16] <apachelogger> jtechidna: can you still reproduce bug 272541 [15:16] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 272541 in kdebase "The whole desktop restarts if the desktop folder view widget is closed" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272541 [15:17] <jtechidna> apachelogger: nope :-) [15:17] <apachelogger> me neither [15:23] <apachelogger> jtechidna: do you have a beta iso at hand? [15:23] <jtechidna> nope, wouldn't boot for me anyway, kernel bug [15:24] <ryanakca> apachelogger: I have an amd64 one... alternate though [15:25] <apachelogger> jtechidna: kernel bug? [15:25] <jtechidna> just a second [15:25] <apachelogger> ryanakca: live makes more sense [15:25] <apachelogger> need to reproduce a bug in french kdepim [15:25] * apachelogger grabs daily image [15:26] <ryanakca> Oh, bummer. Well, this is a fresh install... would you like me to change the language to french and test for you? [15:26] <jtechidna> bug 267295 [15:26] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 267295 in linux "The 2.6.27-2.3 kernel fails to boot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267295 [15:27] <ryanakca> Can anybody reproduce bug 278611 ? [15:27] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 278611 in kdebase-workspace "Impossible to change language in System Settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278611 [15:27] <apachelogger> bug 278572 [15:27] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 278572 in kdepim "[intrepid] Kontact (kmail) not displaying properly dates in local format" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278572 [15:27] <apachelogger> it did work properly when I changed the date setting [15:28] <apachelogger> 278611 sounds like fun [15:29] <Arby> h [15:32] <ryanakca> Hmmm... can't change the status of the bug to "Needs information" because I'm not the maintainer :/ [15:32] <ryanakca> doh, nevermind [15:35] <Salze> [16:27] <ryanakca> Can anybody reproduce bug 278611 ? <- no. [15:35] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 278611 in kdebase-workspace "Impossible to change language in System Settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278611 [15:36] <ryanakca> apachelogger: I can't reproduce it, but it might be because (s)he has date/time set up differently... [15:36] <apachelogger> well, if it doesn't appear in a live environment with french locales we can just close it [15:37] <apachelogger> I for one think that the user messed up his settings by manually fiddling [15:41] <apachelogger> jtechidna: bug 278408 is weird [15:41] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 278408 in kdenetwork "KPPP blank/unresponsive "Create New Account" dialog" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278408 [15:41] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/54271/ the related source [15:42] <jtechidna> apachelogger: brb [15:42] <jtechidna> rebooting [15:48] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: yeah, saw that one [15:48] <JontheEchidna> weird [15:56] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: bug 268434 needs to go upstream [15:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 268434 in kdebase-workspace "Screen Resolution is not being restored after relogin" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268434 [15:56] <apachelogger> they would know better if it caused by our xrandr or a bug in krandr [15:56] <ryanakca> What files / source packages would I look in to fix bug 278620 ? I've tried grepping ``add language'' in the kde-workspace sources without any luck... [15:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 278620 in kdebase-workspace "Add language menu in System Settings contains duplicates" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278620 [15:57] <apachelogger> -runtime [15:57] <ryanakca> s/kde-workspace/kdebase-workspace/g [15:57] <ryanakca> apachelogger: thanks [15:59] <apachelogger> oh [15:59] <apachelogger> eh [15:59] <apachelogger> nice [16:00] <apachelogger> Riddell: when booting the live CD with francais it doesn't look very french [16:00] <apachelogger> the country in systemsettings is also not set [16:00] <apachelogger> nor is the language [16:00] <apachelogger> \o/ [16:03] <smarter> apachelogger: i18n is still b0rken thanks to rosetta, so it doesn't really make a difference :P [16:03] <apachelogger> it does [16:03] <apachelogger> completely unrelated to rosetta [16:04] <smarter> the fact that i18n is broke? [16:05] <apachelogger> the fact that the live cd wouldn't use an l10n at all [16:09] <smarter> well, no l10n seems better than half-translated apps imho :P [16:12] <JontheEchidna> \o/ [16:12] <JontheEchidna> editing my blog put it back on top of the planet [16:12] <JontheEchidna> vorian: oh, and I stoled your cube pic D: [16:13] <JontheEchidna> but couldn't you have put a wallpaper in the background instead of a pure blue background? ;P [16:16] <apachelogger> ryanakca: you did a normal english installation? [16:17] <apachelogger> smarter: using wrong formats is not [16:17] <ryanakca> apachelogger: Yes, well, Canadian English... not that KDE recognized it as such, but it's what I selected while installing. [16:17] * apachelogger doesn't really see why a german would use letter for example [16:17] <apachelogger> ryanakca: please file a bug report [16:18] <apachelogger> ryanakca: did you install the missing language packs before you stumbled upon the loop bug? [16:18] <ryanakca> apachelogger: against what package? kdebase? kde? k-d-s ? [16:18] <apachelogger> ryanakca: ubiquity [16:18] <apachelogger> or ubiquity-kde if that exists [16:18] <ryanakca> apachelogger: even if I used the alternate CD? [16:19] <ryanakca> ok [16:19] <apachelogger> ryanakca: well, it doesn't work with the live anyway :P [16:19] <apachelogger> ryanakca: ryanakca: did you install the missing language packs before you stumbled upon the loop b [16:22] <ryanakca> apachelogger: yes, they were installed. At least, English was marked as installed in the ``Install new languages'' dialogue... and would that be a duplicate of bug 62613 ? [16:22] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 62613 in ubiquity "Correct locale settings not set within KDE after installation" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62613 [16:22] <ryanakca> also, bug 144414 [16:22] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 144414 in ubiquity "Localization issues and more." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144414 [16:23] <apachelogger> ryanakca: not the former [16:23] <apachelogger> that was about KDE 3 [16:23] <apachelogger> and apparently only happend sometimes [16:23] <apachelogger> ryanakca: same for the latter [16:23] <ryanakca> Ok [16:25] <apachelogger> hm [16:25] <apachelogger> why does the country selector have an ok button [16:25] * apachelogger is wondering if it only works with single click due to single click setting [16:26] <apachelogger> ryanakca: doesn't loop here [16:27] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: please throw bugs which we can actually fix for intrepid at me [16:28] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: ok [16:28] <ryanakca> apachelogger: bug 278634 [16:28] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 278634 in ubiquity "[Intrepid Beta] KDE does not use the language selected during install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278634 [16:28] <ryanakca> If you would like to confirm :) [16:28] <JontheEchidna> I'll probably work on the cubecap, but I can't test it since I lacks proprietary drivers that work for my card [16:29] <JontheEchidna> I'll also grab the cylinder/sphere shaders from trunk and add them to the patch [16:45] <JontheEchidna> What's with bug 275997? [16:45] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 275997 in kdebase "Intrepid: Kubuntu maximise button missing from Konqueror" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/275997 [16:45] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: ^? [17:04] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: Riddell fixed t that in kds the other day [17:04] <JontheEchidna> cool, I'll close it then === mbiebl_ is now known as mbiebl [17:33] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: did you ever report a bug to fd.o in order to get bug 217654 sorted? [17:34] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 217654 in kdesdk "nautilus won't launch KDE apps" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217654 [17:35] <ScottK> Why is that a bug in kdesdk? [17:51] <apachelogger> ScottK: see most recent comment I added [17:52] <apachelogger> gnome doesn't handle empty keys to well [17:52] <apachelogger> and KDE got a lot of empty Path keys [17:52] <apachelogger> and JontheEchidna and I are not really sure whether it is an issue in GNOME or in the desktop files [18:42] <ScottK> glib2.0 in hppa is fixed, so we have some hope of getting kde stuff built on hppa now. [19:04] <apachelogger> I seriously need some main sponsors :P [19:04] * apachelogger pings nixternal [19:06] <apachelogger> ScottK: btw, if you got some seconds ... kgrubeditor needs a retry on amd64 and lpia [19:25] <ScottK> apachelogger: Done. [19:26] <apachelogger> thank you [19:27] <ScottK> No problem. Those are easy enough. [20:18] <apachelogger> ryanakca: what to do, make the drupal theme scalable or the wiki static? [20:18] * apachelogger finds the size of the drupal theme unsufficient for the wiki [20:19] <apachelogger> then again changing the theme for the wiki is a) weird b) awful looking c) distrubing a user when trying to clix0r through all the top right links [20:19] <apachelogger> so we need a unification of some sort [20:32] * smarter uploads a new snapshot of Kvkbd, a virtual keyboard for KDE, to his PPA: https://launchpad.net/~smarter/+archive (feedback appreciated :) ) [20:43] <apachelogger> smarter: as if we would ever had gotten feedback when we asked here :P [20:43] <smarter> :P [20:43] <apachelogger> who owns an eeeeeee? [20:43] <smarter> I do [20:43] <apachelogger> smarter: please try to reproduce bug 259181 [20:43] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 259181 in kdebase-workspace "KDM background image not displayed correctly on low resolution display" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259181 [20:44] <smarter> does it need intrepid to be reproduced? [20:44] <apachelogger> no, just kdm-kde4 [20:44] <apachelogger> I tried with 1024x600 in a vbox but it didn't cause the issue [20:44] <smarter> okay, I've KDE 4.1.0 on my eee, should I update first? :P [20:44] <apachelogger> so it might very well be just a bug in the driver [20:44] <apachelogger> smarter: omg, how can even use .0? :P [20:45] <smarter> I don't use my eee a lot when I'm not traveling ;) [20:45] <smarter> (actually, I just found one user of Kvkbd on the french Ubuntu forum, I'm not gonna let him go without asking him to give me plenty of feedback :P) [20:45] <apachelogger> I think even the eee would be a decent icecc node :P [20:49] <smarter> I'd use it if my main computer was not 64bits :) [20:55] <apachelogger> smarter: http://en.opensuse.org/Icecream#Cross-Compiling_using_icecream [20:59] <smarter> I doubt I can crosscompil 64 bits on 32 bits :] [20:59] <smarter> besides, 900Mhz are just not worth the pain :p [21:02] <apachelogger> *shrug* [21:30] <ryanakca> apachelogger: I'd make it static... are you making it match the Drupal one? [21:41] <apachelogger> ryanakca: yes, the idea is to use the same theme, which is the reason I think the drupal one should become dynamic [21:42] <apachelogger> there he goes [21:42] * apachelogger gets a tea [21:44] <ryanakca> apachelogger: Ah. Feel free to. I quite like the theme that mdke (I believe) wrote for the help.ubuntu.com/community/ wiki... I would've just tweaked it to have Kubuntu colors / gradients... but up to you. [21:45] <ryanakca> apachelogger: (if you want to see it, you'll need to select it from UserPreferences... if you want the exact name, lemme install FF first, the wiki hates Konqueror) [21:49] <ryanakca> apachelogger: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mdke/ubuntu-doc/helpwiki-newtheme [22:05] <ryanakca> apachelogger: ping, could you help me with bug 278620 please? I've built packages (source package: kdebase-runtime) with what I'm hoping is a fix... but how do I get them installed without breaking my system... I can downgrade them to the Kubuntu version fine, but trying to install my ``fixed'' version causes a dependency hell :) [22:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 278620 in kdebase-workspace "Add language menu in System Settings contains duplicates" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278620 [22:06] <apachelogger> ryanakca: you need to install all required packages at once [22:06] <apachelogger> sudo dpkg -i kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-runtime-data-common kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 etc. [22:07] <apachelogger> the dependency hell most likely just affects kdebase-runtime packages anyway [22:11] <ryanakca> apachelogger: thanks [22:12] <ryanakca> ... also... should I have ubuntu-minimal installed in my chroot? [22:13] <apachelogger> for what? [22:13] <ryanakca> apachelogger: building chroot... [22:14] <apachelogger> depends on what you want to do with the chroot |