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[00:13] <apachelogger> ScottK: our mission is to provide the best KDE desktop based on ubuntu AFAIK [00:13] <apachelogger> I'd feel rather uncomfortable shipping GTK software where in most user's use cases ark would do as well [00:28] <aleite> Hello guys@ [00:28] <aleite> Do you know how to build kde on release mode? [00:29] <aleite> Now, even if I put -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release, kde is built in debugfull mode [00:31] <Jucato> small 'r'? as in =release? [00:32] <aleite> Tried too... [00:32] <aleite> didn't work [04:11] <dread> heya [04:11] <dread> why the crap is the damn ugly 'gwenview-kde3' preinstalled in kubuntu 8.10 beta ? [04:12] <dread> i updated from 8.04 [04:14] <dread> can anyone give me the default sources.list for 8.10 please? [04:15] <dread> argh [04:16] <dread> the new adept is messy... not showing up the packages from sources [04:16] <Hobbsee> dread: well, for a start, gwenview-kde3 doesn't exist in ubuntu/kubuntu. [04:16] <Hobbsee> secondly, be respectful if you actually want an answer. [04:17] <Hobbsee> thirdly, default sources.list is probably a #kubuntu question. [04:19] <dread> ok, very sorry T_T [04:19] <dread> you guys rock ;-) [04:38] <ScottK> apachelogger: I was thinking in addition, not instead of, but not a big deal. [08:34] <hosein-mec> why there isnt default list of package in Adept 3 ?? there is only search function to see package ... ! [10:05] <Salze> Hi. kdesudo "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel" does not give me any new packages. Will I get the same result (I should have gotten with this) by replacing hardy with intrepid in the sources.list? [10:06] <Salze> Oh...forget it. [10:06] * Salze feels ashamed [10:06] <Salze> The upgrade button was hidden because the window was too small. [10:14] <seaLne> why is 4.1.2 in hardy but not intrepid is it just beta freeze? [10:17] <stdin> !info kdelibs5 intrepid | seaLne [10:17] <ubottu> sealne: kdelibs5 (source: kde4libs): core libraries for all KDE 4 applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 9292 kB, installed size 25912 kB [10:19] <seaLne> hmm so it should be? [10:19] <stdin> well, that's what apt reports [10:20] <seaLne> weird my system agrees didn't remember it installing [10:20] <seaLne> :) [10:20] <stdin> must have upgraded smoothly then :) [10:21] * seaLne grins [10:51] <DreadKnight> the beta has issue on my box [10:51] <DreadKnight> but only the 64bit version [10:52] <DreadKnight> i couldn't get x running at all [10:52] <DreadKnight> intel GMA 950 video card [10:52] <davmor2> DreadKnight: works here [10:53] <DreadKnight> davmor2: installed from cd? [10:53] <DreadKnight> i have Toshiba portege m405 [10:53] <davmor2> DreadKnight: yeap both alt and live [10:53] <DreadKnight> i upgraded a hardy install... heh [10:53] <DreadKnight> only 32 bit worked === akonadi is now known as nihui [12:12] <apachelogger> ~topic seperator | [12:12] <kubotu> unknown command [12:12] <apachelogger> -.- [12:12] <apachelogger> ~help topic [12:12] <kubotu> topic add(at)|prepend|del(ete)|replace|sep(arator)|learn|restore|clear|set|undo: manipulate the topic of the current channel; use topic <#channel> <command> for private addressing [12:12] <apachelogger> ~topic sep | [12:12] <kubotu> Topic separator set to | [12:13] <apachelogger> ~topic add Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseSchedule === kubotu changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Todo | Beta is out, you all rock! | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseSchedule [12:13] <apachelogger> ~topic learn [12:13] <kubotu> alright [12:14] <Salze> I have a problem during the update from Hardy to Intrepid with the adept_manager installation procedure. [12:14] <Salze> Unfortunately I cannot start konqueror, so I cannot use pastebin. [12:14] <Salze> Anyone willing to try to help me in a query? [12:14] <apachelogger> why can't you start konqueror? [12:14] <Salze> I think because some parts have already been replaced. [12:15] <Salze> But I'm not sure. [12:15] <Salze> It says it cannot initiate http protocol. [12:15] <apachelogger> Salze: can you paste to a file? [12:16] <Salze> Yes. [12:16] <apachelogger> Salze: do that [12:16] <Salze> I have. [12:16] <apachelogger> then wget http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/batpaste [12:16] <apachelogger> ruby batpaste FILENAME [12:17] <Salze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/53414/ [12:17] <Salze> Thank you. [12:19] <Salze> The installation process hangs (as far as I can tell). Any chance to get it running again? [12:19] <apachelogger> Salze: how did you start the upgrade? [12:19] <Salze> kdesudo ... [12:19] <Salze> Don't remember exactly - I c&p from the webpage. [12:20] <apachelogger> adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel maybe? [12:20] <Salze> Yes. [12:20] <apachelogger> hm [12:20] <Salze> kdesudo (or something) in front of that. [12:21] <apachelogger> Riddell: would that restart the upgrade if it has been aborted? [12:21] <Salze> The window is still open - I just have the impression it waits for some input. [12:21] <Salze> But I don't see any question. [12:22] <Salze> It's stuck at "Configuring landscape-common [12:23] <apachelogger> Salze: you will have to wait for Riddell, he knows about the upgrader [12:23] <Salze> Ok. Thank you for your help! [12:23] <apachelogger> You're welcome! [12:29] <Salze> Just in case someone might be interested: I killed "/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/landscape-sysinfo". Now the installer continues to run. [12:30] <apachelogger> Salze: it might happen again [12:30] <Salze> Same error messages with bash_completion - although this time the installer continues to run. [12:31] * apachelogger is wondering why it can't initialize the kde frontend for debconf [12:31] <Salze> I don't know. I would suspect some essential kde files got updated already and are now incompatible. [12:32] <Salze> [13:30] <apachelogger> Salze: it might happen again <- it did - several times already. But now it always continues to run. [12:32] <Salze> Let's wait and see whether the system will be usable at the end. :-) [12:32] <apachelogger> well, maybe debconf is locked [12:33] <Salze> Wouldn't it then complain about locks instead of frontend? [12:33] <Riddell> apachelogger: there is no kde frontend to debconf [12:33] <Riddell> we should probably write one [12:33] <apachelogger> Riddell: wasn't there some? [12:33] <Riddell> there was for kde 3, not for kde 4 [12:34] * apachelogger seems to remember that adept poped up with a kde dialog for debconf stuff [12:34] <apachelogger> ah, I see [12:34] <Salze> It did ask me once whether I want to keep or replace changes on some file. Was that debconf? [12:35] <apachelogger> no, that was dpkg itself [12:35] <apachelogger> Riddell: can you grant a FFe for powerdevil? [12:35] <Salze> Ok. [12:35] <Riddell> Salze: when your upgrade is done report a bug on update-manager noting where it got stuck and attach /usr/lob/dist-upgrade/* [12:35] <apachelogger> s/lob/log [12:35] <Riddell> apachelogger: if there's a good reason I could [12:35] <Salze> Will do - at least if the system is useable at the end. *gg* [12:35] <apachelogger> Riddell: it works better ;-) [12:36] * apachelogger is wondering why drf doesn't keep a changelog -.- [12:36] <Riddell> changelogs are hassle to keep [12:37] <Riddell> apachelogger: yeah, go for it, I'll review the package before uploading [12:38] <apachelogger> Riddell: do you want to upload or are you reviewing it before accepting the upload? [12:38] <apachelogger> it's in universe, so I can upload :) [12:39] <Salze> /usr/lob/dist-upgrade/* <- It's /var, right? [12:40] <apachelogger> haha, awesome svn log http://paste.ubuntu.com/53418/ [12:40] <stdin> /var/log/dist-upgrade [12:42] <Salze> Ok, I managed to save that to my SD card, so that I will have it even if the system does not work after rebooting. [12:54] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: apparently your ksmserver patch broke update-notifier-kde, clicking on the reboot icon brings up the shutdown dialog [12:55] <JontheEchidna> bug 277380 [12:55] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 277380 in kdebase-workspace "After installing updates in Adept and needing to restart, clicking on "restart" tray icon brings up dialog to shut down" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277380 [13:00] <Tonio_> Riddell: is that too late to get kpackagekit in the archives ? [13:00] <Tonio_> Riddell: 0.1 looks stable to get in universe imho [13:00] <Riddell> apachelogger: go ahead and upload [13:01] <Riddell> Tonio_: that's fine with me [13:01] <Tonio_> Riddell: and since we'll probably consider it for jaunty.... why not getting it in... [13:02] <Tonio_> Riddell: okay, I'll make the packages clean enough for the archives and upload to revu.... then ping to get revued [13:02] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: mm, it probably just needs to call the correct numbers, unfortunately they're not well documented [13:02] <apachelogger> Riddell: uploaded [13:02] <Riddell> apachelogger: what happened to you and core-dev? [13:04] <apachelogger> Riddell: rumor has it that apparently it got deferred [13:04] <apachelogger> but since motu council does super secret channels I wouldn't know for sure :P [13:04] <apachelogger> s/channels/meetings [13:04] <apachelogger> ...in super secret channels though... === davmor2 is now known as davmor2_lunch [13:38] <ScottK> It was still listed as a pending application in the meeting notes from the last meeting. [13:45] <Riddell> ScottK: what's it blocked on? [13:46] <ScottK> Riddell: Dunno. They just list pending applications in their call minutes, but don't say why they are still pending. [13:49] <Riddell> poke nixternal [13:49] <Riddell> presumably he needs to show up at a tech board meeting sometime === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [14:16] <jtechidna> ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/53441/ [14:16] <jtechidna> works for me (tm) [14:18] <ScottK> jtechidna: I'm downloading the source from your PPA now. [14:19] <jjesse> mroning [14:19] <jtechidna> http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Woremar/tooltips.png [14:21] <ScottK> jtechidna: Cool. Thanks. I'll build it and let you know how it works here. [14:22] <jtechidna> ScottK: you're welcome. I learned a lot in the process [14:24] <ScottK> jtechidna: I do think Riddell should review it before upload so unless he asks me to after looking at it, I don't think I should sponsor it. [14:24] <jtechidna> yeah, def [14:28] <rgreening> OMG.. that pic is awesome [14:29] * rgreening wishes kde 4.2 was ready for intrepid [14:29] <rgreening> come on Jaunty... [14:30] * ScottK finds 4.1 quite exciting enough thank you very much. [14:30] <rgreening> lol [14:31] <rgreening> does anyone here know the Plasman API? I want to code a small app but was looking for someone to work with. [14:32] <rgreening> s/Plasman/Plasma [14:32] <rgreening> I miss my favorites applet... so I want to code one for Plasma... [14:35] <sebas> rgreening: what do you need to know exactly? [14:36] <rgreening> I haven't looked at Plasma before, so I was looking for someone who has to help out. [14:36] <sebas> #plasma is usually helpful [14:36] <rgreening> good idea [14:36] <sebas> And there are lots of examples in KDE's svn [14:36] * rgreening adds to auto-connect [14:36] <sebas> You can start by modifying an existing plasmoids [14:36] <sebas> -s [14:37] <rgreening> true. does kdevelop support KDE4 and Plasmoid projects yet? [14:37] <sebas> Dunno, I'm using kate+konsole usually [14:37] <sebas> I *think* it does, but I'm not a 100% sure [14:39] <Riddell> kdevelop is just a text editor too, it supports anything. it should come with KDE 4 templates. plasmoid templates probably not but you can start with any existing one [14:39] * sebas nods at Riddell [14:39] <Riddell> sebas: go nod in that other channel over there [14:40] * rgreening installed kdevelop.. KDE4 projects folder... empty.. hrm [14:41] <rgreening> Is there a python bindings support being done (or exist) for plasma yet? [14:42] <rgreening> cause that would be easier :P [14:42] <Riddell> python bindings are in playground/base/plasma but it didn't work last I tried [14:42] <Riddell> will need kde 4.2 anyway [14:42] <rgreening> ah [14:45] <jtechidna> yeah, can't wait for 4.2 [14:45] <jtechidna> I think I can wait for Jaunty though, Intrepid has been exciting [14:46] <ScottK> Riddell: One problem I ran into when I upgraded was between kdelibs4-dev and kdelibs5-dev. I had kdegames-dev installed and it switched from *4 to *5 and they aren't coinstallable. I could sort it manually and probably so could most people who have -dev packages. Is it worth worrying about? [14:48] <Riddell> ScottK: so apt got confused? [14:49] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes. It couldn't upgrade kdegames-dev because that would have needed kdelibs4-dev removed. I think it's either 'not a big deal' or update-manager needs a special case for it. [14:50] <ScottK> I replicated it do an upgrade of a chroot from hardy to intrepid, so it wasn't a one time oddity. [14:56] <nixternal> good morning [14:57] <Riddell> ScottK: I guess mvo is the person to ask about what the right thing to do is. there should be a right thing to do [14:58] <nixternal> apachelogger: I already commented and gave you a +1 on your application correct? [14:58] <ScottK> Riddell: OK. I'll ask him. [14:58] <Riddell> ScottK: he might be on holiday today though, it's german group hug day [14:59] <ScottK> OK. [14:59] * ScottK adds to TODO. [14:59] <Riddell> nixternal: yes but motu-council hasn't got any further [14:59] <nixternal> hrmm, I don't know why...and I thought I was the one holding up processes due to me working, guess not [15:02] <nixternal> argh, I can see this MC stuff is going to piss me off concerning you apachelogger [15:02] <Riddell> nixternal: how so? [15:03] <apachelogger> :/ [15:03] <nixternal> because they waste no time pushing a Canonical employee through for core-dev, but hang up on apachelogger who has been in this community far longer than anyone else currently in the queue...they are doing the same with superm1 as well [15:04] <ScottK> nixternal: superm1 is scheduled for the next tech board meeting. [15:04] <nixternal> wtf [15:04] * smarter is wondering what's happening with his motu application too :] [15:04] * apachelogger is a 2nd class citzien himself [15:04] <nixternal> good, I am glad mario got through then [15:04] <nixternal> apachelogger: I agree :P [15:04] <nixternal> I would lean more for 3rd class citizen with you though :p [15:04] <ScottK> I think it's mostly MC people being busy. [15:05] <nixternal> ScottK: I voted right away and I am never around [15:05] <ScottK> Perhaps some people not sure what the right answer is and spend a long time navel gazing. [15:05] <apachelogger> nixternal: then I should switch to xubuntu [15:05] <nixternal> so it isn't the MC being busy [15:05] <ScottK> nixternal: Others haven't voted. Dunno why. [15:05] <nixternal> I come on for 15 minutes a day, I check my email once a week [15:06] <nixternal> i should have voted -1 for apachelogger since he didn't even add me to his application [15:07] <apachelogger> lol [15:07] <apachelogger> nixternal: I still love you though [15:07] <nixternal> sure you do [15:08] * apachelogger had to browse through 5 neon files in order to find the constant for package revision [15:09] <jtechidna> apachelogger: testbuildan a kate fix [15:10] <apachelogger> jtechidna: sounds dangerous [15:10] <jtechidna> well, it's a 6-line patch :P [15:11] <apachelogger> well [15:11] <apachelogger> there we have it [15:11] <apachelogger> _patch_ [15:11] <jtechidna> heh [15:11] <apachelogger> !<3 patches [15:11] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3 patches [15:11] <apachelogger> :) [15:11] <jtechidna> !patches [15:11] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patches [15:12] <jtechidna> damn, I know I added something about patches [15:12] <jtechidna> or maybe workarounds... [15:12] <jtechidna> kubotu: facts about patches [15:12] <kubotu> I know nothing about patches [15:12] <apachelogger> kubotu: facts about apachelogger [15:12] <kubotu> [5/6] apachelogger has a batman pyjama. [6/6] "...and apachelogger hates workarounds" [15:13] <nixternal> kubotu: facts about nixternal [15:13] <kubotu> I know nothing about nixternal [15:13] <nixternal> good, lets keep it that way! [15:13] <apachelogger> lol [15:13] <rgreening> kubotu: fact #2 [15:13] <kubotu> fact #2 of 6: rgreening buries head in sand [from smarter!n=smarter@ubuntu/member/smarter on Wed Oct 01 23:27:17 +0300 2008 in #kubuntu-bunker] [15:14] <nixternal> vore: are you going to the pre-party next friday? if so, I need your cell number so I can call you...I am planning on getting to columbus at around 6/7 pm [15:14] <nixternal> and will need someone to drink with besides my buddy kevin :P === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [15:14] <nixternal> shoot [15:14] <nixternal> vorian: ^^ [15:14] <nixternal> sorry vore [15:15] <nixternal> vore: shoot, you are in tennessee...you going to Ohio Linux Fest next week? :) [15:15] <vorian> holy [15:15] <nixternal> holy what? [15:15] <vorian> nothing [15:16] <vorian> i'm going [15:16] <vorian> I se [15:16] <vorian> e [15:16] <nixternal> what time and where is this pre-party [15:16] <vorian> it's across the street from the conf. center [15:16] <vorian> Barleys [15:16] <vorian> let me get a linky [15:16] <nixternal> groovy, barleys, I have been there before [15:17] <vorian> excellent [15:17] <vorian> i'll pm my cell [15:17] <nixternal> I am ready to drink people pretty [15:17] <nixternal> +1 630 445 3860 is my cell [15:17] * Jucato writes that down [15:17] <nixternal> write it down [15:17] <vorian> 740.253.9040 [15:18] <nixternal> if I see a phone number from 043792479365273475283437828043207672048306752784038042 I will let it go to voice mail :P [15:18] <vorian> haha [15:18] <Jucato> >:) [15:18] <Jucato> you'll only see a number from 1337 :) [15:24] <JontheEchidna> heh, Tooltips even work well with vertical panels: http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Woremar/tooltips2.png [15:27] <Riddell> apachelogger: able to turn up at techboard meeting? (#ubuntu-devel) ? [15:28] <apachelogger> Riddell: yes [15:29] <Riddell> apachelogger: guess that's the thing to do then [15:29] * apachelogger creates a calendar entry === davmor2_lunch is now known as davmor2 [15:43] <apachelogger> Riddell: bug 276588 [15:43] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 276588 in kde4libs "package kdelibs5-dev None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdelibs5-dev.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkjsembed.so', which is also in package libkjsembed-dev" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/276588 [15:44] <Riddell> apachelogger: can you connect to upload.ubuntu.com frp? [15:44] <Riddell> ftp [15:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: no [15:46] <Riddell> mm, sysadmins are moving machines around [15:51] * apachelogger is wondering why kdeartwork includes incompatible icon themes [15:52] <Riddell> apachelogger: because kdeartwork has no maintainer [15:52] <Riddell> I've tried to hint to ruphy he should do it since he effectivly maintains oxygen from a technical view, but he doesn't seem interested [15:52] <apachelogger> Riddell: why does unmaintained stuff get released at all? [15:53] <Riddell> shrug, bits of it are useful, it just needs someone to tidy it up [15:55] <apachelogger> I see [15:57] <apachelogger> Riddell: btw, did you copy 4.1.2 to the members ppa? [15:58] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes [15:58] <apachelogger> Riddell: oh why, but why? :P [15:58] <Riddell> apachelogger: isn't that what needs done? [15:59] <apachelogger> Riddell: yeah, doing it about half an hour before KDE publishes the news is good enough though [16:00] <Riddell> apachelogger: well KDE was going to publish this morning [16:00] <apachelogger> well [16:00] <apachelogger> sebas: did another so* get messed up? ;-) [16:01] <Riddell> germany is on holiday (group hug day). kde falls apart when germany goes on holiday [16:01] <apachelogger> ^_^ [16:01] <apachelogger> rofl [16:02] <davmor2> Riddell: ban him from holidays :P [16:02] <JontheEchidna> kde4libs always takes so long to compile :( [16:04] * apachelogger finds libs pretty fast actually [16:04] <apachelogger> pim and bindings take long [16:04] <Riddell> qt takes longer than anything [16:05] <Riddell> (other than openoffice obviously) [16:06] <apachelogger> talking about qt, do we have 4.4.3 in the archive yet? [16:07] <Riddell> no, rgreening sent it to me but it was waiting for beta freeze and now it's waiting for upload.ubuntu.com [16:07] <Riddell> along with a load of other bits [16:09] <apachelogger> poor qt [16:09] <rgreening> I've been running the 4.4.3 eversince I built it. Works fine here [16:09] * apachelogger screwed up the complete changelogs for 4.1.2 [16:10] <rgreening> Riddell: I assume the kwin branch removal to kdebase-workspace was also uploaded now? [16:10] <JontheEchidna> we could probably backport the fix from trunk even if suse hasn't updated their branch^ [16:11] <apachelogger> that sounds suicidal TBH [16:11] <JontheEchidna> yeah, that patch is HUGE LIEK XBOX [16:12] <Riddell> rgreening: I'm trying an updated version of the patch, but it's also waiting on upload.u.c to reappear [16:13] <jussi01> wow, intrepid is blazing fast compared to hardy kde4... :D [16:13] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: did you fwd the tootip diff to Riddell for inclusion? Real spiffy :) [16:13] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: would you mind reviewing the tooltips patch sometime? http://paste.ubuntu.com/53441/ [16:13] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: ha [16:13] <rgreening> lol [16:13] <rgreening> read my minsd [16:13] <rgreening> s/minsd/mind [16:13] <JontheEchidna> just like when you joined right after I announced working tooltips [16:13] <rgreening> haha [16:13] <rgreening> too funny [16:14] <rgreening> kubotu: order JontheEchidna a Irn Bru [16:14] * kubotu slides jontheechidna a irn bru down the bar to rgreening [16:14] <sebas> apachelogger: no, sysadmin mia ;) [16:14] <rgreening> doh! [16:14] <JontheEchidna> kubotu: help order [16:14] <kubotu> You may also have a look at 'help order goods/machines/replies' ... Placing an order is actually easy as hell. 'order GOOD' => GOOD gets slid down the bar. 'order GOOD for NICK' => GOOD get slid down the bar to NICK. 'order GOOD for everyone' => everyone gets GOOD (in case the good is finite it will end as you place this order). 'order birthday package' => in case you want to make a special birthday present ;-) [16:15] <rgreening> ah [16:15] <rgreening> kubotu: order a Irn Bru for JontheEchidna [16:15] * kubotu slides a irn bru down the bar to JontheEchidna [16:15] <rgreening> better [16:15] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: so did you get the tooltips working on your box? [16:16] <apachelogger> sebas: if KDE had made me sysadmin... :P [16:16] <rgreening> haven't had a chance to dl them. I need to downgrade my version (save rev as yours) to upgrade [16:16] <rgreening> s/save/same [16:16] <JontheEchidna> ah, right [16:17] <apachelogger> seriously [16:17] <apachelogger> oh my picard! [16:18] <apachelogger> sebas: is it me or is the changelog really done manually without using the xml file? [16:18] <sebas> Dunno, it looks buggered [16:18] <apachelogger> that would support my theory [16:19] <sebas> I am with you then [16:19] <sebas> I'm actually glad if it's done at all [16:20] <apachelogger> looks a bit short [16:22] <apachelogger> sebas: maybe we should just tweak carsten's create_changelog script and parse the might commit logs [16:22] * apachelogger drinks yet another cup of awfully cold coffee [16:22] <JontheEchidna> ~order hot coffee for apachelogger [16:22] * kubotu slides hot coffee down the bar to apachelogger [16:23] <apachelogger> hm [16:23] <sebas> apachelogger: not all commits are interesting for the changelog (that's what the .txt links that are broken are there for) [16:23] <apachelogger> I fixed them :P [16:23] * apachelogger fixes all the stuff none else cares about :P [16:23] <apachelogger> sebas: we could introduce new keywords [16:23] <apachelogger> FEATURE: blah [16:23] <sebas> I love you! [16:23] <apachelogger> IMPROVEMENT: blah blah [16:24] <apachelogger> \o/ [16:24] <sebas> Yeah, it should anyway filter out all bugs [16:24] <sebas> That's be useful, those just belong into the changelog no matter what [16:24] <apachelogger> *nod* [16:24] <sebas> Not even if my cat started complaining in chinese right now [16:25] * apachelogger thinks that would be quite hilarious [16:26] <sebas> And quite unreasonable. It's far too lazy to have any say. [16:26] <sebas> And it usually doesn't move it's hairy ass unless it expects food. [16:27] <apachelogger> that reminds me of JontheEchidna :P [16:27] * apachelogger scuttles off [16:27] <JontheEchidna> :P [16:27] <rgreening> oh my [16:28] <JontheEchidna> I guess it's what I get for slacking off on backports [16:29] <JontheEchidna> Arby deserves a medal [16:29] <Arby> he does, for what? [16:29] <JontheEchidna> for doing most of the backports for 4.1.2 [16:30] <Arby> *shrug* if it leaves other people free to do the hard stuff it's all good :) [16:30] <Arby> then I don't have to :) [16:32] <apachelogger> uh [16:32] <apachelogger> I think I fixed neon [16:34] <JontheEchidna> :D [16:34] * JontheEchidna misses his trunky amarok [16:34] <apachelogger> well, it gets more broken every day :P [16:35] <apachelogger> "It's not broken, it's Amarok" [16:35] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: next time you do the release screenshot again [16:36] <JontheEchidna> heh, ok [16:36] <apachelogger> if http://www.kubuntu.org/system/files/kde4_1_2.png was any more blurry it would count as modern art [16:39] <JontheEchidna> bah, where did my sound go [16:41] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: with germany on group hug day? [16:41] <JontheEchidna> probably [16:47] <apachelogger> right [16:47] <apachelogger> Riddell: please approve kgrubeditor [16:48] <Riddell> apachelogger: that's on my todo list :) [16:48] <Riddell> apachelogger: remind me again the rationale [16:48] <Riddell> we currently have an unstable version and it's stable? [16:48] <apachelogger> Riddell: the version we have is undstable compared with the new one [16:48] <apachelogger> Artemis_Fowl: fixed a couple of bugs [16:49] <apachelogger> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/53472/ [16:50] <Artemis_Fowl> yep, and one of the bugs was kind of important since it caused a crash upon launching kgrubeditor [16:54] <Riddell> ta da http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2 [16:56] <smarter> :) [16:56] <smarter> "Submitted on Wed, 2008-10-01" [16:56] <smarter> publication date would be more appropriate :P [16:57] <Riddell> thanks to whoever submitted it [16:58] * apachelogger fixed the date and removed the reference to kde.org since it still says embargo :P [16:59] <Riddell> thanks [16:59] <apachelogger> sebas: fixed the changelog [17:00] <rgreening> nice :P [17:00] * Arby applauds the release and heads for the pub to celebrate [17:00] <Arby> and because it's 5pm on a friday :) [17:05] <rgreening> only 1:30here... [17:05] * rgreening sneaks a drink under the desk [17:05] <JontheEchidna> 12:05pm [17:09] <apachelogger> 18:09 [17:09] <apachelogger> ~time [17:09] <apachelogger> hm [17:10] <JontheEchidna> Holy crap: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18156365/iconsallwrong.png [17:10] <JontheEchidna> bug 277458 [17:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 277458 in ubuntu "intrepid kde4 icons are all screwed up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277458 [17:12] <jussi01> err, that looks like when I used crystal icons on hardy... [17:13] <rgreening> yep. wonder if they simply change the icon theme instead of deleting will it fix it. [17:13] <apachelogger> ~time [17:13] <kubotu> apachelogger: Europe - Vienna - Fri Oct 03 18:13 CEST [17:13] <rgreening> ~time [17:13] <kubotu> rgreening: use time set <Continent/City> to set your timezone. [17:14] <rgreening> time set America/St_Johns [17:14] <rgreening> doh [17:14] <apachelogger> ~ [17:14] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: we can't do anything about it really [17:14] <rgreening> ~time set America/St_Johns [17:14] <kubotu> Ok, I'll remember that rgreening is on the America/St_Johns timezone [17:14] <rgreening> ~time [17:14] <kubotu> rgreening: America - St Johns - Fri Oct 03 13:44 NDT [17:14] <rgreening> whee [17:15] <JontheEchidna> ~time set America/New_York [17:15] <kubotu> Ok, I'll remember that JontheEchidna is on the America/New_York timezone [17:15] <apachelogger> Riddell: if we set the icon theme in etc/kde4/kdeglobals would the user still be able to change it? [17:15] <JontheEchidna> ~time [17:15] <kubotu> JontheEchidna: America - New York - Fri Oct 03 12:15 EDT [17:16] <apachelogger> btw [17:16] <apachelogger> ~time rgreening [17:16] <kubotu> America - St Johns - Fri Oct 03 13:46 NDT [17:16] <apachelogger> very useful :) [17:17] <rgreening> yeah. I agre. It's easy to foget we are all in diff tz's [17:17] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes [17:17] <smarter> ~time set Europe/France [17:17] <kubotu> Europe/France is an invalid timezone. Format is Continent/City or a two character country code. [17:17] <smarter> ~time set Europe/Paris [17:17] <kubotu> Ok, I'll remember that smarter is on the Europe/Paris timezone [17:18] <apachelogger> Riddell: oh, that wouldn't help anyway :S the user already set a configured scheme so it would override etc in any case [17:19] <rgreening> smarter: what part of Paris? I stayed at the Tour d'Eiffel Hotel on my vacation (July 3rd) this year. [17:19] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: the problem is that we can't use kconf_update to drain the setting from kdeglobals due to /etc/kde4/kdeglobals which for some reason gets higher priority [17:19] <apachelogger> the only solution would be to do it in postinst of kdelibs5 [17:19] <smarter> rgreening: I don't live in Paris, just in France and there's only one timezone :) [17:20] <apachelogger> i.e. sed $HOMEs [17:20] <rgreening> oh... hrm [17:20] <smarter> rgreening: https://launchpad.net/~smarter to see where I live :) [17:20] <smarter> rgreening: also, it's Tour Eiffel, no "d'" here :P [17:20] <apachelogger> almost ch isn't it? [17:20] * apachelogger clicks [17:20] <smarter> apachelogger: yup [17:20] <smarter> at the border [17:20] <apachelogger> ch ain't got good beer :P [17:20] <rgreening> smarter: my French is tres Horrible, non? [17:21] <smarter> ;) [17:21] <apachelogger> si [17:21] <apachelogger> oh, that was italian [17:21] <smarter> you spellt these two words right, that's not bad (: [17:21] <smarter> apachelogger: actually, si exists in french [17:21] <apachelogger> well [17:21] <apachelogger> it wouldn't make any sense here, would it? [17:22] <smarter> yes it does :P [17:22] <smarter> when someone asks a negative questions, you answer "si" instead of "oui" [17:22] <smarter> hmm, no it doesn't make any sense here, I'm just being stupid ^^' [17:22] <apachelogger> exactly [17:23] <smarter> anyway, even if they don't have good beer, swiss have good chocolate :) [17:23] <apachelogger> jussi01: btw, I could have installed my own ruby as well :P [17:23] <rgreening> and milk maids [17:23] * apachelogger currently overrides system ruby with 2 plugins [17:24] <jussi01> apachelogger: cool, I dont mind, there is plenty of space :) [17:24] <apachelogger> smarter: belgium got better chocolate :P [17:24] <apachelogger> jussi01: I think I am too lazy though ;-) [17:24] <apachelogger> besides, that is going to end up like on kollide [17:25] <apachelogger> I have half a system in my home there [17:25] <apachelogger> bloody gentoo isn't usable gentoo ;-) [17:26] * tanderson notices the gentoo highlight [17:26] <apachelogger> haha [17:26] <apachelogger> tanderson: is there any way to make gentoo usable for servers? [17:26] <tanderson> apachelogger: sure, I use it on one myself [17:27] <apachelogger> probably our admin's fault then [17:27] <apachelogger> stuff breaks all the time [17:27] <tanderson> oh yeah, it's easy break if you're not careful [17:27] <apachelogger> *nod* [17:30] * apachelogger scuttles over to xubuntu-devel for coffee [17:52] <NCommander> hey apachelogger [17:52] <apachelogger> ahoy NCommander [17:53] <NCommander> apachelogger, I like your core dev application ;-) [17:53] <apachelogger> :) [17:54] <Riddell> hmm? [17:55] <NCommander> Riddell, apachelogger wrote his application as a ... er ... well, application :-) [17:56] <Riddell> oh yes, genius that was [17:56] <NCommander> I'll have to think of something to out do him for my application :-) [17:57] <seele> have there been any reports of people having trouble upgrading to beta from the kde4 remix? [17:57] <seele> i dont see any comments on the feedback page, but had two people ask me about it [17:57] <JontheEchidna> I think there were some [17:57] <Riddell> seele: I had trouble if that counts :) [17:58] <Riddell> but that was only from the alternate CD [17:58] <seele> Riddell: if *you* had trouble then we'er doomed [17:58] <Riddell> through internet was fine [17:58] <apachelogger> NCommander: good luck with that :P [17:58] <Riddell> NCommander: write it in python. that's much more sensible :) [17:58] <NCommander> OOOH [17:58] * NCommander will write it in x86 asm [18:00] <seele> hmm.. i guess i can try a hardy remix upgrade after work tonight [18:00] <apachelogger> Riddell: ruby! :P [18:01] * apachelogger finds that changelog parser carsten wrote quite confusing [18:03] <NCommander> apachelogger, what did you write your application in anyway? [18:04] <apachelogger> NCommander: C++/Qt [18:09] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Tooltips works great here. I think for some users this will be a real boost for Kubuntu Intrepid. [18:10] <ScottK> rgreening: Thanks for your help on it too. [18:10] <ScottK> Riddell: Thumbs up from me for JontheEchidna's task bar tooltip change. [18:10] <rgreening> np. I had a small part. this patch will seperate us from some of the others... [18:11] <rgreening> too bad we can't backport the updated systray. [18:11] <rgreening> or can we... [18:11] <Riddell> ScottK: groovy, working for me too, I'll upload shortly [18:11] <ScottK> Don't go too far ... [18:11] <ScottK> Great. [18:11] <rgreening> :P [18:11] <Riddell> rgreening: probably not, but what's updated in it? [18:12] <rgreening> Riddell: the transparancy issue is fixed AFAIK [18:12] <rgreening> quite annoying atm [18:12] <Riddell> rgreening: uploading kdegraphics [18:12] <rgreening> cool [18:13] <rgreening> Riddell: and how goes the kdebase-workspace testing on the updated kwin branch patch [18:13] <Riddell> rgreening: working well here [18:13] <rgreening> awesome. another boost for Kubuntu [18:14] <Riddell> just need to edit .install files so we get than all important cube effect installed [18:14] <rgreening> kool [18:14] <JontheEchidna> oh, so that's why I couldn't find it :P [18:15] <rgreening> lol [18:15] <JontheEchidna> probably why the desktop switching effect combobox was empty [18:15] <rgreening> ah.. could be [18:15] <rgreening> though.... [18:15] <rgreening> that's a moc thing and should still be generated [18:15] <rgreening> i believe [18:16] * rgreening is learning to write plasmoids... [18:16] <JontheEchidna> anybody working on anything kde4libs related? I'm probably going to have a kde4libs update that will need sponsored [18:16] <JontheEchidna> (Bug 277258) [18:16] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 277258 in kde4libs "Kate KDE4.1 scrolling with the mouse on the scroll bar moves the bar but not the text" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277258 [18:19] <JontheEchidna> Still might be a while before it's all built [18:21] <rgreening> Riddell: you uploading my changes for qt 4.4.3 as well... [18:21] <Riddell> rgreening: yep [18:22] <rgreening> cool... [18:22] <Riddell> 100MB upload, wonder how long that'll take [18:22] <rgreening> Is there an easy way to downgrade from local installed packages and prefer those in a repo (older version #'s). [18:23] <Riddell> apt pinning maybe, it's fiddly as I mind [18:23] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: if you still have old debs in /etc/apt/archive you could dpkg those [18:24] <JontheEchidna> then apt-get update to the ones in the ppa [18:24] <JontheEchidna> er [18:24] <JontheEchidna> /var/cache/apt/archive [18:25] <rgreening> that's what I have been doing. Just though there may have been a easier way. I think the pin is similar to Gentoo's masking. I may give that a shot. [18:27] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: btw, didja get my adept sidebar patch? ;D [18:28] <JontheEchidna> By the time Intrepid is released Riddell will have patches coming out his ears [18:31] <apachelogger> *nod* [18:31] <apachelogger> oh [18:31] <apachelogger> awesome [18:31] <apachelogger> sebas: basic commit log parsing works [18:31] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: yes, also on today's todo list [18:31] <JontheEchidna> nice, thanks. :) [18:33] <jjesse> is there a reason i keep getting notification of incomplete lanague support of english? and when i can't select english because it is greyed out [18:35] <Riddell> jjesse: it's a beastie [18:35] <jjesse> oh? [18:36] <Riddell> we'll fix i [18:36] <Riddell> we'll fix it [18:37] <jjesse> i'm sure you were,just wondered if it was something ive done to my system [18:37] <Riddell> no [18:38] * ScottK had to manually change the selected mixer in kmix to get mute/volume control to work (it worked in Hardy without intervention) from 'pcm' to 'front'. Bug or just something people have to change sometimes? [18:40] <JontheEchidna> hmm, it's set to pcm here but volume control works for me. (I has no mute keyboard button) [18:41] <ScottK> Mute keyboard button works as well as clicking on kmix. Volume keys show the volume, but won't change it. Kmix slider works fine. [18:45] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: sidebar patch? [18:45] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: look at Okular's sidebar and then look at Adept's [18:46] <JontheEchidna> Adept uses Okular's sidebar code, but Adept's copy is from KDE 4.0 and looks somewhat crappy [18:47] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: adept 3 looks crappy in general (IMO) [18:47] * rgreening liked the old adept... [18:48] <JontheEchidna> old adept was slow and crashy [18:48] <JontheEchidna> Quick and un-crashy is my favorite adept3 feature [18:49] <rgreening> I never had a hitch with old one... lucky I guess. [18:49] <JontheEchidna> Plus we got to close 75% of our Adept bugs because of Adept3 [18:49] <rgreening> lol [18:50] <JontheEchidna> The biggest peeve with Adept3 I have is it's searching [18:50] <JontheEchidna> *its [18:50] <rgreening> I hate the missing icons in adept. all the '?' icons drives me nutz [18:51] * JontheEchidna never uses adept installer [18:51] <rgreening> I'd rather see no icon thant the '?'... [18:51] <rgreening> I should add a patch to show no icon rather than the '?' [18:52] <rgreening> the '?' makes me think it's broken... at least that's what general users will likely think. [18:53] <rgreening> anyone else think so? [18:53] <JontheEchidna> there's a bug about that actually [18:53] <JontheEchidna> from adept2 [18:53] <JontheEchidna> which we couldn't close, hehe [18:53] <rgreening> hmm... got the bug #. [18:53] <NCommander> Riddell, mind doing me a favor in a little big [18:53] <rgreening> I may try and tackle it [18:55] <NCommander> What does APT stand for specifically [18:55] <NCommander> Advanced Packaging Tool, right? [18:55] <NCommander> (or Package) [18:57] <asfak> since last 3-4 days i am unable to drag gnome apps (synaptic, firefox) from kicker to desktop. [18:57] <ScottK> NCommander: You could always work on Bug 56125 [18:57] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 56125 in apt "apt-get moo doesnt look like a cow" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56125 [18:58] <NCommander> ScottK, rofl, I'm writing a manpage for adept [18:58] * NCommander has had that on his todo list for awhile [18:58] <ScottK> Great. [18:59] <NCommander> persia gave me some pointers and tools to help me get started on writing a manpage [18:59] <ScottK> rgreening: If you're going to work on Adept, would you consider seeing if it's feasible to get back the 'show details' option in the udpdater? [19:00] <NCommander> But I've never written one from scratch, so I'm looking for a second pair of eyes to look it over [19:00] <rgreening> Scottk,NCommander: http://polishlinux.org/apps/cli/ascii-art-fun-cowsay-and-figlet/ [19:00] <rgreening> a good cow [19:00] <rgreening> :) [19:00] * NCommander perfers aptitude -vvvvvvv moo [19:00] <ScottK> rgreening: The only good cow is cooking on my grill. [19:00] * NCommander wants to try using a flamethrower on his side of beef [19:00] <rgreening> lol [19:00] <JontheEchidna> ScottK, rgreening: I believe Scott's talking about bug 275219 [19:00] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 275219 in adeptmgr "(Kubuntu Intrepid) In Adept installer, the "more" link shown when you click on an application is non-functional" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/275219 [19:01] <rgreening> I prefer my steaks on High 5 min per side. :) [19:01] <rgreening> and 1 inch thick [19:01] <NCommander> I perfer mine red and rare [19:01] <NCommander> (ground beef however I perfer quite dead) [19:01] <JontheEchidna> I like mine medium [19:01] <ScottK> NCommander: The downside of the flamethrower approach is that if there's any incomplete combustion it ends up tasking like gasoline. [19:02] <NCommander> Hrm [19:02] * ScottK often orders steak "As long as it doesn't walk off the plate, I'll be happy". [19:02] <NCommander> Maybe I should simply use an explosion to tenderize my steak [19:02] * ScottK is not kidding. [19:02] <JontheEchidna> heh [19:02] <NCommander> ScottK, I usually say "Dead, but not so dead I could use it as a tire" [19:03] * JontheEchidna just says "medium please" <.< [19:03] <NCommander> I dunno about you, but if my meat has the consistency of rubber, I'm not happy [19:04] <sebas> apachelogger: yay! [19:05] * NCommander looks at adept's source ot see what command line options it takes [19:06] <rgreening> adept needs a moo option and it should being up a pic with the cation 'Got Kubuntu' (as parody of got milk commercials) [19:07] <NCommander> It seems that adept's --help lies about accepting command line options [19:08] <JontheEchidna> adept takes "installer" and "upgrader" as command lines [19:08] <JontheEchidna> or updater [19:08] <NCommander> Oh, what do those do specifically? [19:08] <JontheEchidna> launch adept in install or updater mode [19:09] <JontheEchidna> install is a more user-friendly frontend for installing and removing applications only [19:09] <JontheEchidna> (no packages) [19:09] <JontheEchidna> updater, well, updates :) [19:09] <NCommander> I'm trying to figure out how best to document that [19:10] <NCommander> installer seems broken for me [19:10] <NCommander> oh wait, just very slow [19:10] * JontheEchidna never uses it aside from testing [19:12] <rgreening> adept; [19:12] <rgreening> Arguments: [19:12] <rgreening> command Command [19:12] <rgreening> lol.. great help [19:17] <rgreening> adept doesn't document those commands ... missing feature [19:18] <JontheEchidna> I'm sure mornfall would appreciate patches for stuff like that [19:18] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: that's what I was thinking on doing... [19:22] <NCommander> JontheEchidna, are you willing to look over my manpage? [19:22] <JontheEchidna> sure [19:23] <NCommander> JontheEchidna, http://paste.ubuntu.com/53510/ [19:25] <JontheEchidna> I'd change "Launchs adept in updater more which is a streamlined interface for handling updating the system." to "Launches adept in updater mode which offers a streamlined interface for handling package updates" [19:25] <JontheEchidna> more -> mode in any case [19:25] <JontheEchidna> other than that, lookin' good [19:28] <NCommander> \o/! [19:28] <NCommander> JontheEchidna, do you work on adept in Debian? [19:28] <JontheEchidna> nope [19:28] <JontheEchidna> I don't really do anything in Debian tbh [19:29] <NCommander> v.v [19:29] <JontheEchidna> <.< [19:29] <NCommander> ^.6 [19:29] <NCommander> argh [19:29] <NCommander> so much for IRC DDR [19:34] <NCommander> Riddell, care to sponsor an upload giving adept a manpage? [19:35] <Riddell> NCommander: can do yes [19:35] <NCommander> \o/ [19:35] <rgreening> NCommander/Riddell: I am also workng on adding the missing help lines to adept. will have debdiff shortly. [19:36] <NCommander> rgreening, if you just want to roll my mainpage into your patch, we could do tat, make it a single upload [19:36] <rgreening> sure. [19:40] <rgreening> sweet. adept help now more helpful [19:41] <NCommander> \o/ [19:41] <rgreening> Riddell: how do we handle the strings for translations? [19:41] <jjesse> rgreening: did you write a help manual for adept? [19:41] <NCommander> rgreening, I forwarded it to Debian so they should benefit from it too [19:41] <NCommander> jjesse, no, I did [19:41] <jjesse> NCommander: really? [19:42] <jjesse> that's awesome, i've had one i'm been working on in a branch but haven't had time to complete it [19:42] <rgreening> jjesse: I added the command line help to adept. [19:42] <jjesse> not a full manual? [19:42] <rgreening> NCommander did the man [19:42] <NCommander> jjesse, no, I wrote a manpage [19:42] <jjesse> oh cool, mind if i borrow from your man page to compete the manual then? [19:43] <jjesse> i would totally credit you [19:43] <NCommander> jjesse, go for it [19:43] * NCommander didn't even take credit in the manpage for writing it :-) [19:45] <Riddell> rgreening: depends on the context [19:45] <rgreening> NCommander... got your e-mail. so, looks like I'll need to integrate it with adept. Did you already do that (i.e. have a diff/debdiff?) [19:45] <NCommander> no [19:45] <NCommander> I just finished writing it [19:46] <Riddell> rgreening: what are the missing help lines? [19:46] <NCommander> If you want me to do that, finish your work, upload, then ping me [19:46] <rgreening> Riddell: see paste here... http://paste.ubuntu.com/53514/ [19:47] <rgreening> NCommander: no problem. Was just curious. [19:47] <rgreening> Riddell: are the strings ok, or do you want to fiddle with them? [19:47] <rgreening> Riddell: there was no command line help in Adept for the installer or updater command lines [19:48] <rgreening> this fixes. tested and verified [19:49] <Riddell> rgreening: that's fine, would be nice if there was a way to say that no command will launch the manager [19:49] * NCommander looks at his RS/6000 [19:49] <rgreening> true. thought about that one. Let me read over main.cpp some more.... [19:50] <Riddell> rgreening: the translations get extracted into a .pot file at build time which gets put into rosetta where people can translate it [19:50] <rgreening> kool. [19:50] <Riddell> normally we wouldn't update strings this late but rosetta doesn't even have many strings imported so it's moot [19:50] <rgreening> and this isn't a showstopper anyway. [19:55] <Riddell> NCommander: where's your patch? [19:58] <NCommander> Riddell, emailed [19:59] * apachelogger notes that he once again managed to create the most bizzare code block [19:59] <rgreening> kubotu: fact #3 [19:59] <kubotu> fact #3 of 6: JontheEchidna needs moar coffeeee [from JontheEchidna!n=jonathan@ubuntu/member/jontheechidna on Wed Oct 01 23:27:52 +0300 2008 in #kubuntu-bunker] [19:59] <rgreening> nope.. wrong fact [19:59] <rgreening> kubotu: fact #4 [19:59] <kubotu> fact #4 of 6: smarter is not smarter [from rgreening!n=rgreenin@pool1.corpnat-toroon.gt.ca on Wed Oct 01 23:28:23 +0300 2008 in #kubuntu-bunker] [20:00] <rgreening> nope.. [20:00] <JontheEchidna> kubotu: facts about rgreening [20:00] <kubotu> [2/6] rgreening buries head in sand [20:00] <rgreening> :) [20:02] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/53517/ \o/ [20:03] <rgreening> Riddell: let me know if this looks good and about the wording: http://paste.ubuntu.com/53518/ [20:03] <Riddell> rgreening: great [20:04] <rgreening> Ok, NCommander sent me the man page. Not sure how to integrate man pages yet... do you want me to send the diff for this now or wait until I get the manpage figured out.. [20:04] * NCommander can wait ;-) [20:05] <JontheEchidna> Riddell, ScottK: bug 277258 needs sponsoring [20:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 277258 in kde4libs "Kate KDE4.1 scrolling with the mouse on the scroll bar moves the bar but not the text" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277258 [20:05] <rgreening> Riddell ^ see my last about the manpage [20:05] * ScottK looks [20:05] <Riddell> rgreening: it depends in what format the manpage is [20:06] <rgreening> hmm... NCommander e-mailed you I believe the same as I got [20:06] <rgreening> Riddell: ^ [20:06] <rgreening> I'll send the debdiff for what I just changed... [20:07] <NCommander> Riddell, raw man :-) [20:07] <NCommander> (aka nroff) [20:08] <Riddell> just needs a debian/manpages file then with the name of the manpage [20:09] <rgreening> oh. ok, I'll test that [20:09] <rgreening> and send with my change. [20:12] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: I'll sponsor it. I had to redo debian/changelog because apachelogger already uploaded ubuntu2. [20:13] <JontheEchidna> oh, and then it merged changelogs [20:13] <JontheEchidna> meh [20:14] <apachelogger> ...if we were using bzr ... and bzr would read debian/changelog before trying to merge ... this stuff wouldn't happen [20:15] <ScottK> apachelogger: No, you'd be sitting there waiting for it to finish updating instead of doing actual work. [20:16] <apachelogger> ... if bzr was written with sensible design and language ... we wouldn't have to be sitting [20:17] <apachelogger> ScottK: It's not like bzr is eating your CPU, is it? [20:17] <ScottK> No, it's the upload/download with LP that takes an eternity. [20:17] <apachelogger> well, I usually do other stuff while bzr is at work, so I barely notice [20:25] <Riddell> ScottK: let me know if your upload gets accepted [20:30] <ScottK> Riddell: Will do. [20:30] <ScottK> Test build is still building ... [20:30] <rgreening> Riddell: I created the manpages dir and put the manpage in a filed named adept. Never built/installed it. missing something? [20:32] <Riddell> should be called adept.1 [20:32] <Riddell> the file should be called manpages and contain one line with the name of the manpage file [20:33] <Riddell> debian/adept.1 [20:33] <Riddell> for example [20:33] <rgreening> ah [20:33] * rgreening slaps his forehead [20:33] <Riddell> man dh_installman [20:33] <rgreening> good to know [20:34] <rgreening> ty [20:46] <rgreening> Riddell: adept diff sent [20:47] <rgreening> ok, offline ofr a few hours. l8r [20:55] <Riddell> apachelogger: hmm, amarok 2 beta doesn't start here [20:55] <Riddell> <unknown program name>(4831)/: Communication problem with "amarok" , it probably crashed. [20:59] <Riddell> JontheEchidna, NCommander: that's the adept upload done [21:00] <JontheEchidna> :D [21:00] <JontheEchidna> Thanks Riddell [21:00] <NCommander> \o\ /o/ |o\ [21:01] <JontheEchidna> |o| <- Tie Fighter [21:02] <Riddell> tooltips are up too incase you missed that [21:08] <smarter> ooh, http://doc.trolltech.com/4.4/ is greener [21:09] <JontheEchidna> Does that mean KDe's new color is green? [21:12] <ScottK> kde4libs is still building and I'm heading out for a while. [22:16] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: are you going to blog about 4.1.2? [22:16] <JontheEchidna> Sure [22:20] <apachelogger> perfect [22:21] * apachelogger stops ruby haxx0ring and goes cuddling [22:22] <ScottK> TMI thank you very much. [22:23] <Riddell> apachelogger: who's getting cuddles? [22:29] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: kde4libs uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. [22:29] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: you're welcome [22:29] <JontheEchidna> way easier to do than tooltips :P [22:30] <ScottK> ;=). [22:30] <ScottK> Yes, well that tooltips one is a huge deal for me, I really appreciate it. [22:34] <ScottK> Riddell: I got accepted mail for my upload. [22:36] <ScottK> Looks like kdegraphics is stuck in New. [22:37] <ScottK> Riddell: Did you upload the kdebase-workspace update with the tooltips change? [22:38] <ScottK> If you did, it looks to me like Soyuz ate it. [23:49] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: workspace finally went through [23:52] <JontheEchidna> Get:27 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main qt4-doc 4.4.3-0ubuntu1 [52.8MB] [23:52] <JontheEchidna> dang, that's big |