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[09:55] <jarjar> hello [09:56] <jarjar> anyone [10:04] <jarjar> you sleep?? [10:11] <freet15> hi [14:22] <ogra> lool, do we have a ubuntu mobile blog ? my fingertraining project for this weekend is https://launchpad.net/usb-imagewriter if thats done it would be nice to announce it on planet [14:47] <lool> ogra: We don't have one, perhaps we should [14:48] <lool> ogra: Is this to write MIC images, livecd-rootfs images, or both? [14:48] <ogra> its just a dd frontend [14:49] <ogra> so usable for all images from cdimage [14:49] <lool> Does it write to /dev/sdN or sdN1? [14:49] <ogra> /dev/sdN [14:50] <ogra> it just does dd if=image of=device [14:50] <lool> ogra: Quite nice [14:50] <ogra> just to save users from having to use a terminal :) [14:50] <lool> ogra: Too bad we use the ubuntu-mobile ppa for actual testing of hardy ume updates [14:50] <lool> ogra: For virtual-mobile-builder I packaged it and put it in the project's ppa [14:51] <ogra> well, i think that tool is usable beyond UME ... if it works as i want it i'll just push it to intrepid universe [14:51] <ogra> and probably ask for a hardy backport [14:51] <lool> ogra: I agree, virtual-mobile-builder is in intrepid as well [14:52] <lool> ogra: it's not easy to have the proper set of deps from a hardy base, ubuntu-vm-builder, mic, and vmb have to match [14:52] <lool> Hence the ppa for hardy people [14:52] <lool> Right, a backport would be sufficient here indeed [14:53] <lool> ogra: You might want to set -e find_devices.sh [14:53] <ogra> yeps [14:53] <lool> haha you made the header image yourself? :) [14:53] <lool> Cute :) [14:53] <ogra> actually i want that (and the wrapper script that i'm writing right now ) to be in pythob [14:54] <lool> Ideally the dd part would be in python as well and have some progress indication [14:54] <ogra> well, i'm doing that for fun, not as work ... making eaders is one of the fun elements [14:54] <lool> ogra: I can't agree more! [14:54] <lool> ogra: Will look cool in your blog post too! :) [14:54] <ogra> well, i'm somewhat scared by diong dd in python [14:54] <ogra> dd is safe and proven as tool [14:54] <lool> Why is that? [14:55] <ogra> i actually like to realy on the consistency of proven tools for such stuff [14:55] <lool> It might be but then ultimately it's just open(), seek() and write() mostly, isn't it? There might be tons of exceptional cases handling, but does it really recover from themN [14:55] <lool> *them? [14:56] <ogra> cjwatson also suggested reimlementing in python ... but i'd like to be able to just add dd options later for adjustments etc [14:56] <ogra> right, but you somehow need to parse it through a pipe and count bytes etc [14:56] <ogra> to get the progress output [14:56] <lool> From dd? [14:56] <ogra> since i cant just copare source and target size easily while writing to raw devices [14:57] <lool> You don't want to parse dd's console output; it's ugly to get it and ugly to parse [14:57] <ogra> thats what i do atm [14:57] <ogra> its not that ugly to parse :) [14:57] <ogra> but ugly to get i admit [14:57] <lool> You parse dd progress output? [14:57] <lool> Hmm I don't see the signalling [14:57] <ogra> sending USR1 in a 1sec frequency to it to trigger output [14:57] <lool> I've grepped for that and didn't find the signal sending [14:58] <ogra> thats in the script i'm just writing, not in the branch yet [14:58] <lool> Ahhh [14:58] <lool> ok [14:58] <lool> I checked for this immediately after checking you were using dd [14:58] <lool> I have to go drive my wife to some shopping [14:58] <lool> See you later [14:58] <ogra> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25434/ [14:58] <ogra> yep, ciao :) [14:58] <lool> ogra: Do you know how the QA people got their infrastructure and all? [14:59] <ogra> stgraber might be able to tell you ... he wrote a lot of that [14:59] <ogra> (and runs the isotracker and other tools) [14:59] <lool> Wow you wrapper is really ugly [14:59] <ogra> heh [14:59] <ogra> yeah [14:59] <lool> pkilling all dds [15:00] <ogra> its the quick hack to make it workable for a start [15:00] <ogra> i want the pkill part in the python code later [15:00] <lool> I'd love us to have some mobile.u.c infrastructure to host QA, polls and that kind of stuff; it's hard to come up with a non-transversal use case thopuhg [15:00] <ogra> but i want something thats usable by tonight and dont want to put much more time into it :) [15:01] <lool> For instance if you consider blogs, well sure we could set this up, but it would make more sense to have a platform to host all team's blogs, or use launchpad [15:01] <ogra> then announce it on the ML and see who picks it up to make it nicer :) [15:01] <lool> Same for websites, for QA tests etc. [15:01] <lool> ogra: Go ahead and announce it publicly! \o/ [15:01] <ogra> as soon as it works ad i have a package :) [15:01] <lool> ogra: When mvo pushed the first vmbs it inspired me to jump in and fix things which I wanted to improve [15:01] <ogra> announcing working tools is usually better to attrackt devs [15:02] <lool> yeah [15:02] <lool> I didn't want to tell people about the mobile builder in the beginning because it wasn't using MIC [15:02] <ogra> (better than just non working code) [15:02] <lool> Wasn't pulling from ppa, that kind of things [15:02] <ogra> well, as long as you dont announce it as *the* MIC replacement :) [15:03] <lool> What? the tool to write images? [15:03] <lool> We have time for this [15:03] <lool> We don't even build dailies ATM [15:03] <ogra> no i meant your mobile builder [15:04] <ogra> as long as you dont say its *the* replacement for MIC but just announce it as another tool to build images nobody can complain :) [15:04] <lool> vmb is *only* for vms [15:05] <ogra> ah [15:05] <lool> MIC never did that and it's not meant to replace it [15:05] <lool> virtual-mobile-builder [15:05] * lool really goes now [15:14] <freet15> Hi [15:14] <pronto> hello [15:15] <freet15> where I can get marvell-8686-fireware-9 ? [15:15] <freet15> I use image creator to install this ,bu failed ... [15:17] <freet15> show me an error msg " can`t install .... you should apt-get install -f" ? but, I can`t search anything about this from http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports hardy [15:17] <freet15> pronto: :) [15:17] <pronto> hrm i have idea (i more or less just idle here) === asac_ is now known as asac [15:20] <freet15> any body use image creator has got this issue? [15:53] <freet15> see u guys, goodnight :) [18:47] <lool> asac: Around? [18:47] <lool> galeon 2.0.6 release: [18:47] <lool> +2.0.6 "Pining for the Fjords" [18:47] <lool> + [18:47] <lool> +- Works with Firefox 2 and 3 and xulrunner 1.8 and 1.9 [18:47] <lool> + - Thanks to Alexander Sack <asac@ubuntu.com> and Loïc Minier <lool#dooz.org> [18:47] <lool> + for the xulrunner 1.9 patches. === Moot2 is now known as MootBot |