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[01:19] <ubottu> In ubottu, esac said: !jdk is <reply> jdk is the Java SE Development Kit which includes the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) as well as command-line tools for development of Java applets. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java for installing Java as well as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Development_Kit [01:33] <elky> ok, should ubottu be opped up to stop the floodbot fighting with it? [01:34] <esac> cant floodbot just give ubottu an exception ? [01:40] <elky> it'd be possible, yes. except the maintainer is awol [01:41] * nickrud wonders when he enlisted :-> [01:42] <elky> heh [01:42] <elky> when he accepted the op post :Þ [01:42] <nickrud> crap [01:43] <elky> hehe [01:44] <esac> am i able to add content directly to ubottu or does it have to be approved by an ubuntu-op first ? [01:44] <nickrud> esac needs review first, too many people were abusing it back when [01:45] <esac> understood :) [01:45] <nickrud> esac shorter is better, more likely to get added [01:46] <elky> not sure about the wikipedia link either [01:49] <esac> np ill modify when i get back. i though wikipedia links would be liked :) [01:49] <esac> such a beautiful day, i need to drink beer and grill [01:51] <nickrud> hm, fried chicken. Maybe a steak. Good idea [01:53] <elky> considering anyone can change a wikipedia page.... [02:10] <ubottu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (CTCP/NOTICE) [02:10] <ubottu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (CTCP/NOTICE) [04:52] <ubot3> In #ubuntuforums-beginners, m_newton said: !learn lol is lol [04:59] <esac> and hence thats why we need moderation [05:03] <elky> yes [05:03] <elky> and all the people who merely respond to the messages they get sent, not realising it's a bot [05:07] <m_newton> lol [06:08] <ubottu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, eboyjr said: !meaningoflife is <reply> The meaning of life is the meaning of ubuntu. [06:10] <Madpilot> ubottu, meaningoflife is <reply>42. [06:10] <ubottu> In #ubuntu-ops, Madpilot said: ubottu, meaningoflife is <reply>42. [06:10] <Madpilot> gah [06:11] <Madpilot> what's the login proc for this new improved bot? [06:14] <Hobbsee> ~login [06:14] <ubot3> login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.18.2-1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 256 kB, installed size 2868 kB [06:14] <Hobbsee> @login [06:14] <ubottu> Hobbsee: The operation succeeded. [06:14] <Hobbsee> ubottu, meaningoflife is <reply>42. [06:14] <ubottu> I'll remember that, Hobbsee [06:14] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: ^ [06:14] <Madpilot> @login [06:15] <ubottu> Madpilot: The operation succeeded. [06:15] <Madpilot> silly bot [06:20] <Hobbsee> hehe [06:26] <nickrud> crazy brits, think adams is a decent writer [06:31] <Madpilot> <== not a Brit. Won't dispute the crazy part. [06:32] <nickrud> bc'ers are displaced brits, I'm from seattle. Seen it ;) [06:33] <nickrud> I mean, Victoria? High Tea at that quintessential british hotel? [06:34] <Madpilot> nickrud, quintessential tourist trap, you mean [06:35] <nickrud> heh. sorta like the space needle [06:36] <Madpilot> exactly [06:37] <Madpilot> I'm going to try to get down to Seattle sometime later this year - should ping you for beer and such if you're in the area [06:37] <nickrud> ah, now I'm in LA. Trying to schedule something with Jack_Sparrow [06:39] <nickrud> haven't actually lived in seattle since the mid 90's, been steadily rolling down the coast [06:41] <Madpilot> if you down to LA, you're about to run out of American coastline. How's the Spanish, senor? [06:45] <nickrud> sucky. Oh, so sucky [06:45] <nickrud> I am a classic monolingual americano [07:20] <bazhang> m_newton, how may we help you [07:24] <bazhang> m_newton, please read the /topic; if you have nothing pressing then please /part [07:31] <bazhang> !idle > m_newton [07:31] <ubottu> m_newton, please see my private message [07:43] <nickrud> http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/08/18/ubuntu-%E2%80%93-why-it-is-wrong-for-america.aspx#comments [07:48] <elky> wow, they got a really good photo of mneptok: http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/10000200000001900000013599b0e8a1.png [07:48] * bazhang wonders who the extra idlers are [07:50] <ubottu> In ubottu, raitann said: what is the best network manager [07:50] <ubottu> In ubottu, raitann said: x is the best y [07:50] <elky> esac, m_newton, we like to keep this channel relatively clear of idlers. thanks. [07:51] <ubottu> In ubottu, raitann said: what is the best network manager? [07:55] <bazhang> Eleaf is back in #ubuntu [07:56] <bazhang> elky, ^^ [07:56] <elky> bazhang, yes, we're giving him a chance to earn another holiday [07:57] <bazhang> okay elky [08:28] * jussi01 wakes up [10:32] <ompaul> !whoami [10:32] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whoami [10:32] <ompaul> @login [10:32] <ubottu> ompaul: The operation succeeded. [10:54] <kahrytan> may I have my ban on #ubuntu-offtopic lifted, please? [11:03] <Jack_Sparrow> were you using another nick? [11:04] <kahrytan> no, Jack_Sparrow [11:04] <Jack_Sparrow> When were you banned? [11:05] <kahrytan> #ubuntu-offtopic Banlist: Thu Jun 12 05:01:18 *!kahrytan@* douglas.freenode.net [11:06] <kahrytan> that was sooner then that. [11:06] <kahrytan> oh wait, thats right. that was a ban due to a compliant filed. [11:09] <PriceChild> kahrytan: why do you want the ban lifted? [11:10] <Jack_Sparrow> PriceChild thanks for taking over on this.. [11:10] <kahrytan> PriceChild, If you are worried i would go back in there, I wouldn't. But If I have to due to help in #ubuntu going offtopic, i can at least have option to following the rules. [11:12] <PriceChild> kahrytan: could you reword that please? I'm confused. [11:14] <kahrytan> PriceChild, i have no desire to rejoin -offtopic community. But I would like it removed so when I am in #ubuntu and help goes -offtopic, i can take it to -offtopic like the rules say. Additionally, i just like to see it removed so I know its not lifetime ban and I have option to rejoining if I wanted too. [11:16] <Jack_Sparrow> kahrytan have you been kicked and or banned in ubuntu as well in the past [11:17] <kahrytan> Jack_Sparrow, i think PC is aware of that. [11:24] <kahrytan> PriceChild, So, the decision? [11:30] <Myrtti> good morning [11:31] <kahrytan> Aloha. Myrtti [11:35] <PriceChild> kahrytan: I wouldn't like to make a decision on my own, its not my ban etc. We can see what others think. I don't however think this is a pressing issue, -offtopic is not a required channel for any part of contributing in the Ubuntu community, and there are plenty of other offtopic channels out there on the network. [11:36] <kahrytan> there is one more thing .... You might consider removing one of emma's bans. There is two in the list. [11:36] <PriceChild> Something to keep in mind as right now for example I have to run for a little. [11:36] <PriceChild> kahrytan: in -offtopic's? [11:37] <kahrytan> yes [11:37] <kahrytan> i notced shes there twice [11:38] <kahrytan> she has a cloak now too [11:38] <PriceChild> kahrytan: I don't think that is anything to concern you to be blatantly honest. We're in pretty regular contact with emma, and things are going well. [11:39] <kahrytan> PriceChild, you will be talking to the council arent you? [11:39] <PriceChild> kahrytan: pardon? [11:41] <kahrytan> PriceChild, by others, you mean the council [11:41] <jussi01> Afternoon all [11:42] <PriceChild> kahrytan: although the decision will more than likely rest with them, I want to see what others (by which I mean everyone) thinks. [11:42] <PriceChild> Hey jussi01. [11:44] <PriceChild> kahrytan: I'm going afk for a little, will reply if I find anything left for me when I return. [11:47] <bazhang> he was recommending linux mint in main channel the other day. [11:54] <elky> for what reason? [12:00] <Myrtti> merh [12:00] <Jack_Sparrow> elky bazhang please review comment in channel awhile back ... I removed him after more comments in pm, but would like your opinion about this [12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> trask [12:01] <Myrtti> I still get my teeth on edge whenever that indian feller in -ot sir's or ma'ams people [12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> grep ubuntusatanic from our logs [12:02] <elky> Myrtti, yeah, i know [12:03] <Myrtti> Jack_Sparrow: what about ubuntu satanic? [12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> I removed trask as he felt that it was suitable topic in ubuntu [12:04] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntusatanic was the start of the problem/discussion [12:04] <Myrtti> oh, right [12:04] <Jack_Sparrow> trask and jeeves__ [12:23] <Myrtti> there's nothing wrong per se about Ubuntu SE (apart that it's a bit offtopic for #ubuntu), but the discussion after it was most definitely not suitable [12:24] <Myrtti> oh doodah [12:25] <Myrtti> I've misplaced my phone and am afraid to move in case I'd drop it [12:25] <Myrtti> >___< [12:25] <Myrtti> ha, there it was, on the edge... [12:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Atta girl.living on the edge [13:01] <ubottu> In #ubuntu, Vixus said: Ubottu's !dvd hint is useless. [13:03] <Myrtti> !dvd [13:03] <ubottu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs [13:34] <jussi01> right... [13:45] <Hobbsee> i've spoken with kahrytan about how he should not confuse people by using the wrong terminology. [13:45] <Hobbsee> if the situation in +1 happens again (or -devel), please act appropriately there. [13:45] <Hobbsee> (he's had his warning, and appears to be doing it because he can't be bothered to use the correct terminology) [13:54] <elky> heh [14:39] <ompaul> well it appears that kahrytan is banned from -offtopic and I can't see the ban [14:39] <ompaul> which begs the question is it an akick [14:39] <Hobbsee> +d? [14:40] <ompaul> perhaps [14:40] <ompaul> PriceChild, ^^ is that to be lifted? [14:40] <Hobbsee> it's ident and nick, it looks like. [14:40] <ompaul> if it is that [14:40] * ompaul goes to look again [14:42] <PriceChild> ompaul: I don't know, would rather not choose myself. [14:43] <ompaul> well he told me he is against the GPL, not oss so I have to figure he is trolling me [14:43] <ompaul> and I can't deal with that [14:44] <Hobbsee> he was looking to licence his stuff under the bsd licence, so i doubt he's against open source. [14:44] <Hobbsee> because it's more free and open [14:44] <ompaul> say some [14:45] <ompaul> and then say other [14:45] <ompaul> s [14:46] <Myrtti> opinions are like farts - everyone has them and they all smell bad alike [14:46] <bazhang> his logic for being reinstated is kinda weird though [14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> PriceChild kahrytan has been anything but a model citizen in our community of Uubntu as well [14:46] <PriceChild> He's found the bsd license which e agrees with [14:47] <PriceChild> ompaul: ^ [14:47] <ompaul> Myrtti, and you can just about stand your own :P [14:48] <Myrtti> exactly [14:48] <ompaul> frankly I am going to push him here to be dealt with - cos I no longer have interest - as I feel a conflict of interest is there [14:48] <Hobbsee> ompaul: for you to unban him from -offtopic? [14:48] * Hobbsee thought the CC was supposed to deal with it, anyway. [14:49] <ompaul> yeap well he is in #ubuntu is he not? [14:49] <ompaul> I have asked him to put me on /ignore ;-) [14:49] <Hobbsee> he's in +1 too, but i fail to see how that's relevant? [14:54] <ompaul> I thought he was banned globally from many channels, where the ircc had control but obviously I am missing something [15:00] <Hobbsee> ompaul: you might try asking for a list of ircc decisions that are in effect, added to the wiki or something, to attempt to reduce confusion. i'm unsure of the specifics [15:01] <ompaul> Hobbsee, good idea [15:01] <PriceChild> I don't "think" we made any decisions with kahrytan? He was just banned in places and complained to the CC? [15:01] <ompaul> ahh [15:01] <ompaul> well [15:01] <Hobbsee> wasn't that months ago? [15:01] <PriceChild> yep [15:02] <ompaul> PriceChild, go check this out if you want to waste some time in a good way :) http://www.linuxelectrons.com/news/linux/16774/greg-kroah-hartman-linux-kernel [15:02] <Hobbsee> so, why hasn't anything happened yet? [15:03] <ompaul> cos the there was no decision afik [15:03] <ompaul> thats a howl [15:03] <ompaul> thats a howl [15:03] <ompaul> * Hobbsee has quit ("Coyote finally caught me") [15:03] <PriceChild> I think the end result was that we didn't need to make a decision. [15:03] <Hobbsee> heh [15:09] <ubottu> IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (redbull) [15:12] <Myrtti> redbull is working himself to be banned, I banned him yesterday once [15:20] <bazhang> esac m_newton please dont idle. [15:23] <bazhang> !idle | esac m_newton [15:23] <ubottu> esac m_newton: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [15:25] <Tm_T> ompaul: err, that page is interesting, no background color defined though style needs white [15:26] <ompaul> Tm_T, complain to the devs file a bug ;-) [15:28] <Tm_T> ompaul: perhaps ;) [15:28] <ompaul> the system they use should never have let that happen [15:28] <Tm_T> ompaul: just very typical "design flaw" for me to see, using dark back and light colors [15:40] <m_newton> bazhang, srry, i was gone... I got to go now to... Sry for idoling [15:40] * m_newton is away: loligaging at the wee hours of nite; just to say hi to all and host my server. [15:40] <bazhang> m_newton, please /part [15:44] <jussi01> got sick of everyone asking... [15:44] <bazhang> esac still remains :) [15:45] <bazhang> its no nevermind to me btw [15:46] <jussi01> I love ppa's on a sunday - no build queues :D [15:48] * Hobbsee loves having power to reprio builds. [15:49] <Myrtti> merh [15:54] <jussi01> Hobbsee: shut up... [15:54] <jussi01> :P [15:59] <Tm_T> hmmmm [16:00] <Tm_T> ompaul: "...so Canonical doesn't give back to community" interesting statement, perhaps pr etc etc isn't "giving back" ;) [16:01] <ompaul> Tm_T, that is GKH but I will defend canonical with the phrase lies damn lies and statistics ;-) [16:01] <ompaul> and note what I said there ;-) [16:02] <Tm_T> ompaul: yup :) [17:04] <bazhang> <CWii> Nimblefinger, Wireless is hit or miss. [17:05] <Pici> meh [17:05] <bazhang> robg come to life again [17:05] <bazhang> his answer is google it for most everything. [17:10] <bazhang> neo_the_user was unbanned? [17:11] <Pici> @btlogin [17:12] <Pici> Looks like it [17:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Not by me.. I hope.. [17:13] <Jack_Sparrow> FYI I just buried Hardy [17:17] <nalioth> bazhang: is neo_the_user being troublesome? [17:18] <bazhang> nalioth, he quit; moderately offtopic before that though [17:19] <bazhang> am more concerned about CWii at this point [18:16] * Myrtti waves her plate full of mushrooms filled with Mustapekka cheese wrapped in bacon under jussi01's nose [18:18] <Myrtti> ommmm nommmmm nommmmm [18:23] <Tm_T> hmm [18:26] * jussi01 sadly eats his billy's pizza... [18:27] <Nafallo> ...yea, cause I obviously wasn't hungry enough already :-P [18:27] * Nafallo /ignores IRC for a bit ;-) [18:28] <Myrtti> LOL [18:29] <Myrtti> at least I didn't take pictures and put them into Flickr _this_ time [18:29] * Myrtti snickers [18:32] <TheSheep> food? [18:33] * jussi01 eats TheSheep [18:36] <Myrtti> jussi01: the Finnish way? [18:37] <jussi01> huh? [18:39] <Myrtti> Rosvopaisti [18:39] <Myrtti> (cattle thief way of cooking meat) [18:40] <jussi01> no idea... [18:40] <jussi01> picture? [18:41] <Myrtti> dig a hole, put rocks in the bottom, build a fire, let it burn to coals, dig some of the hot rocks out, wrap the meat into tinfoil / baking paper / wet newspaper or what ever you got, put in the hole, toss the hot rocks on top, bury with the sand, keep buried for 12 - 24 hrs [18:42] <Myrtti> makes excellent MUTTON and chicken [18:42] <Myrtti> :-P [18:56] <jussi01> Myrtti: too long a cook time... [19:00] <Myrtti> true, but works great on also not so tender meat ;-) [19:00] * Myrtti pokes TheSheep [19:04] <ubottu> SeveredCross called the ops in #ubuntu () [19:05] <jussi01> yay for idiots... [19:05] <Myrtti> indeed [19:05] <nickrud> malice is not idiotic, but evil [19:06] * jussi01 disagrees - its both [19:07] <jussi01> idiotic because all it gets him is a ban... [19:12] <nickrud> could care less about him, and he probably didn't care (malicious people are the prime ban evaders anyway) [19:12] <nickrud> I would expect that is [20:04] * Myrtti sighs [20:15] <jussi01> someone who is an -offtopic op should have a peek in there... at certain links... [20:15] * Myrtti looks [20:17] <PriceChild> uuu I heard the best song lyric today [20:17] <PriceChild> "every squirrel has a pearl of wisdom" [20:17] <jussi01> rofl PriceChild what kind of song was that? [20:18] * ompaul looks at PriceChild [20:18] <PriceChild> it was on kerrang [20:18] <ompaul> should I search for that lyric [20:18] <jussi01> kerrrang? [20:18] <PriceChild> oh wait sorry [20:18] <PriceChild> "ever squirrel shares a pearl of wisdom" [20:19] <jussi01> TORRRREEEESSSSS [20:19] <jussi01> oh, sorry.... :D [20:19] <Myrtti> jussi01: enjoying my dvb-t tuner? [20:19] * Myrtti sings to Eagles [20:19] <jussi01> Myrtti: nah, Im watching it on the 32" tele :D [20:19] <Myrtti> bourgeois [20:20] <jussi01> but the tuner has been _fantastic_ [20:20] <Myrtti> great that it works better for you than for me [20:20] <jussi01> :) [20:27] * jussi01 waits... [20:27] <Myrtti> hmm? [20:27] <jussi01> see #u [20:28] <ompaul> jussi01, he is dead I killed him [20:28] <jussi01> I noticed... [20:28] <jussi01> repeatoffender? [20:28] <Myrtti> ypu [20:29] <ompaul> jussi01, well known [20:29] <jussi01> ahh, understand then [21:38] <jussi01> :D :D :D [22:16] <jussi01> someone remind me how to get chanserv into a channel permanently? [22:16] <jpds> jussi01: /cs help set guard [22:16] <jussi01> jpds: thanks :D [22:17] * jpds hugs jussi01 [22:18] * jussi01 hugs jpds back [22:18] * Myrtti takes a screenshot [22:19] * jpds hugs Myrtti quickly for the snap. [22:48] * Myrtti sighs |