2008/06/25/#kubuntu-devel.txt

[02:13] <Riddell> stdin: uploaded kdeplasmoids and kdebase-kde4 to kubuntu-members-kde4
[02:22] <Riddell> stdin: ah, you already did kdebase-kde4, groovy
[03:23] <jjesse> what is the current state of the kde4 ppa?
[03:23] <jjesse> for hardy?
[03:38] <jjesse> hrmm still having problems with kdebase-workspace-data
[04:42] <nixternal> jjesse: you still have problems with your wifi?
[04:43] <nixternal> I got the new books tonight btw, did you get yours?
[05:05] <yuriy> Riddell: in light of recent blog arguments, perhaps it would be good to make the beta announcements more clear that these packages are for testing and such?
[07:54] <allee> mhmm ... libkipi0 conflicting with libkipi5 is not a good idea.  Uninstalls digikam, kphotoalbum that have no useable KDE4 port yet.  As kipiplugins of kde3/4 are in different dirs I don't mostly sure that there will be no problem with libkipi0 and 5 both installed
[08:07] <Arby> morning
[08:20] <\sh> moins
[08:21] <\sh> does anyone have problems show menu texts in qt4-designer?
[08:21] <\sh> with kde4.1beta1 or beta2?
[08:55] <Nightrose> hmmm lots of plasmoids missing after the upgrade - are they not packaged yet?
[08:57] <\sh> Nightrose: not build eventually
[08:58] <\sh> kdepim is missing too :)
[08:58] <Nightrose> hmmm and I don't seem to have any audio backend in phonon
[08:58] <serzholino> libkipi5 conflicts with libipi0, requiring to uninstall digikam
[08:59] <serzholino> is Is really necessary?
[08:59] <serzholino> *is it
[09:16] <Nightrose> Riddell: kdeplasmoids is still missing a few plasmoids - are you aware of that? folderview, twitter and the dictionary are the ones I spotted so far
[09:16] <stdin> serzholino: ~ppa2 fixes that, should be available for i386 now
[09:17] <stdin> amd64 is still queued
[09:17] <serzholino> thanks a lot, stdin :)
[10:26] <Riddell> Nightrose: folderview is in kdebase, twitter and dict didn't compile (needed headers which plasma didn't install)
[10:30] <Nightrose> Riddell: strange... - i have kdebase-kde4 .83 ~ppa4 and there is no folderview in my add applets dialogue
[10:31] <Riddell> Nightrose: try kdebase-plasma
[10:32] <Nightrose> k
[10:33] <Nightrose> Riddell: no package kdebase-plasma
[10:33] <Nightrose> i already have kdeplasmoids installed
[10:34] <Nightrose> stdin: thanks for the phonon update - will try
[10:36] <Riddell> oh, hmm, stdin's package needs updated then
[10:39] <fishy-0> Is there a ubuntu help channel?
[10:39] <Riddell> #ubuntu
[10:39] <fishy-0> thanks!
[10:44] <Nightrose> stdin: latest packages give me a backend but still no sound :/
[10:48] <\sh> Riddell: do you think this could be the default desktop launchpad client for kubuntu? http://leonov.tv/content/leonov-with-mdi-layoutbling-bling ? :)
[10:49] <Nightrose> is there any other? ;-)
[10:50] <Nightrose> \sh: packages availible yet?
[10:51] <\sh> Nightrose: no...development tarballs on sunday;)
[10:53] <Riddell> \sh: sure
[11:14] <Riddell> Hobbsee: can you give back kdeutils?
[12:24] <alleeHol> Nightrose: not sure if this is your prob: I had no sound too last night with 4.0.83 pkgs. I check as far as: phonon used new gst and no gst-plugins were installed during the upgrade to beta2 pkgs.  had no internet at that time to have not checked it that's all to fix sound
[12:26] <Nightrose> alleeHol: i installed the gstreamer backend with the last updates a few hours ago but I still get no sound :/
[12:26] <Nightrose> but at least a backend in phonon's settings
[12:26] <alleeHol> Nightrose: check what gst plugins pkg are install.  gstreamer alone is helpless AFAIU
[12:27] <Nightrose> alleeHol: ok will try thanks
[12:29] <Nightrose> alleeHol: you might be on to something... don't seem to have any installed
[12:31] <Nightrose> alleeHol: any recomendation which package i should install?
[12:43] <alleeHol> Nightrose: first the good then the ugly then if you like bad I assume.
[12:43]  * alleeHol never really worked with gst before too ;)
[12:44] <alleeHol> Nightrose: I've to prepare computers for delivery in chile.  Later I may have myself time to try ...
[12:45] <Nightrose> alleeHol: no problem - I will test some here - thanks for your tip
[13:03] <Hobbsee> Riddell: looks already given back
[13:04] <Hobbsee> oh, it's in depwait, and i changed the script back to pitti's version
[13:09] <Riddell> hi Xand3r, did you get to look at akode?
[13:11] <Xand3r> Riddell: no sorry, i had no time, and now i have no time too, sorry, maybe tomorrow or the day after, by the way, is this package good for beginers?
[13:13] <Riddell> Xand3r: no problem, I'll try and do it then, it should be done before import freeze tomorrow
[13:15] <stdin> Nightrose: the phonon package is the one from intrepid
[13:15] <Nightrose> stdin: meaning? it will not work?
[13:15] <stdin> Nightrose: meaning, I have no clue :)
[13:15] <Nightrose> hehe
[13:16] <Nightrose> well I wonder why the xine backend is gone
[13:16] <Nightrose> is that intentional?
[13:16] <stdin> dunno, the gstreamer backend should be installed anyway, but it's not showing up
[13:17] <Nightrose> well it is showing in the settings now here
[13:17] <Nightrose> after the last update
[13:17] <stdin> mine still isn't, but then I haven't been brave enough to logout/in yet
[13:17] <Nightrose> hehe
[13:18] <Nightrose> you can do it! :P
[13:20] <jussi01> hey Nightrose
[13:20] <Nightrose> hey jussi01 :)
[13:20] <Riddell> Nightrose: xine backend should be part of kdebase-runtime
[13:20] <Riddell> intrepid has it make a phonon-backend-xine package
[13:21] <Nightrose> Riddell: kdebase-runtime is installed :/
[13:23] <stdin> probably wasn't installed into the deb
[13:24] <Nightrose> hmmm
[13:28] <stdin> just have to add usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/phonon_xine.so and usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/services/phononbackends/xine.desktop
[13:31] <seele> yuriy: *sigh* i didn't even have specifically kubuntu in mind when i wrote that.  suse releases beta packages as well but of course they're infallible
[13:39] <ScottK> No.  They've just patched out all the interesting functions.
[13:41] <Hobbsee> bah
[13:41] <Hobbsee> why do i need a whole bunch of kde stuff, just for konversation?
[13:41] <Hobbsee> oh, ther'es akregator too
[13:42] <Jucato> Hobbsee: that can't be right
[13:42] <Hobbsee> Jucato: recommends by default?
[13:42] <Jucato> ah probably :/
[14:22] <Nightrose> wohooooo
[14:22]  * Nightrose hugs stdin 
[14:23] <Nightrose> I have sound!
[14:23] <Nightrose> thanks :)
[14:23] <stdin> :)
[14:24] <Nightrose> ewwwww but now I can hear all the new sounds... :P
[14:24] <Nightrose> wonder who had the great idea to add a sound effect when opening krunner
[14:25] <Nightrose> hmm or not...
[14:25] <stdin> let me guess, it's a "woosh!" sound?
[14:25] <Nightrose> sound everytime a window pops up
[14:25] <Nightrose> more of a "ding"
[14:25] <stdin> Riddell: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.1beta2.php says "KDE 4.1 Beta 1 has been released and packages are available for Kubuntu 8.04, the Hardy Heron." in the first paragraph
[14:26] <stdin> should say "Beta 2"
[14:26]  * stdin hates uploading the kdeartwork package
[14:27] <stdin> all 42MB of it
[14:27] <Nightrose> bah this sound is so irritating..  /me turns it off
[14:27] <Riddell> stdin: fixed (pending cache)
[14:28] <Riddell> stdin: it's not as bad a language packs..
[14:29] <stdin> true
[14:29] <stdin> but now I have lag of 5s :p
[14:35] <Nightrose> in case someone is wondering: it was "information message" in kde system notification that made this nice beep on opening krunner
[14:58] <JontheEchidna> Yay, gstreamer phonon backend
[14:58] <JontheEchidna> Should stop the xine-induced knotify memory leak
[15:14] <Hobbsee> sigh.
[15:14] <Hobbsee> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[15:14] <Hobbsee>   akonadi-server htdig kde-icons-oxygen kdebase-runtime
[15:14] <Hobbsee>   kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-runtime-data-common
[15:14] <Hobbsee>   kdelibs-bin kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data kdepimlibs-data kdepimlibs5 khelpcenter4
[15:14] <Hobbsee>   libakonadiprivate0 libclucene0ldbl libgif4 libkdepim4 liblockfile1
[15:14] <Hobbsee>   libphonon4 libqt4-dbus libqt4-designer libqt4-network libqt4-opengl
[15:14] <Hobbsee>   libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-svg
[15:14] <Hobbsee>   libqt4-xml libqtcore4 libqtgui4 libraptor1 librasqal0 librdf0 libsoprano4
[15:14] <Hobbsee>   libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libstrigiqtdbusclient0 lockfile-progs phonon
[15:14] <Hobbsee>   phonon-backend-gstreamer pmount qt4-qtconfig raptor-utils redland-utils
[15:14] <Hobbsee>   soprano-daemon
[15:14] <Hobbsee> The following packages will be upgraded:
[15:14] <Hobbsee>   akregator
[15:14] <Hobbsee> 1 upgraded, 46 newly installed, 0 to remove and 15 not upgraded.
[15:14] <Hobbsee> recommends, i hate you.
[15:14] <Hobbsee> oh wait, that's the new version of it.
[15:16]  * Hobbsee removes all of kde3.
[15:21] <Hobbsee> oh, grrr.
[15:21] <Hobbsee> and this has no icon, for one thing.
[15:29] <Hobbsee> and doesn't find my feeds at all.  yet i can't go back to the old version to export them :(
[15:30] <Jucato> Hobbsee: you have a backup of the xml (or is it opml?) file?
[15:30] <Hobbsee> Jucato: nope.
[15:30] <Hobbsee> Jucato: the two that i do have, it doesn't load in.
[15:30]  * Hobbsee downgrades back to the kde3 version
[15:31] <Jucato> how are you doing it? importing or just copying into ~/.kde4/share/apps/ ?
[15:31] <Hobbsee> both
[15:31] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure why it didn't work
[15:32] <Jucato> me too :(
[15:34]  * Hobbsee beats this with a stick.
[15:34] <Hobbsee> apt really isn't designed for mass-downgrading, it appears.
[15:34] <Hobbsee> or at least, dpkg isn't.
[15:35] <Hobbsee> \o/ there's the old kde3 version back
[15:38] <Jucato> and it works?
[15:40] <Hobbsee> yep
[15:40] <Hobbsee> fits in better with gnome, too.  much better.
[15:40] <Jucato> lol
[15:43]  * nixternal is using gnome right now
[15:44] <Hobbsee> nixternal: another traitor.  but it's better than vista.
[15:49]  * Jucato hides his XP...
[15:50] <seele> \sh: do you have a ppa of leonov?  i've been looking at the screenshots but i'm strill having a hard time figuring out how to do certain tasks in it.  it might be because i'm not so good with launchpad though
[15:51] <\sh> seele: no..but you can bzr pull | branch it from lp:~shermann/leonov/leonov-kde-mdi-style :)
[15:53] <\sh> seele: hopefully I find the time to prepare packages next week (we need still to do some python distutils magic for the source :))
[15:56] <nixternal> Hobbsee: not traiting, just using gnome until I can build out KDE 4 on this work lappy
[15:56] <Hobbsee> heh
[15:57] <nixternal> I need some eye candy now because KDE 4 has spoiled me
[15:57] <nixternal> and Kubuntu + Compiz == major suckage
[15:57] <nixternal> and I am using Intel, but Ubuntu + Compiz == somewhat niceness, but not near KDE 4 goodness :)
[15:58] <seele> \sh: typo in your README?  should  # apt-get bzr bzrtools be # apt-get install bzr bzrtools?
[16:00] <\sh> seele: yay...yes :)
[16:00] <\sh> seele: fixed
[16:02] <seele> hrm
[16:02] <seele> Import Error: No module named mainTabPersonalBugReports
[16:03] <seele> i'm guessing that i'm missing something, but i dont know how to fix that
[16:03] <seele> i just follow instructions
[16:04] <\sh> make
[16:04] <Riddell> nixternal: how well does kwin compositing work for you in 4.1 beta 2?
[16:05] <seele> \sh: you should add that to your instructions :)
[16:05] <\sh> seele: yes :)
[16:06] <yuriy> hello from USENIX
[16:06] <apachelogger> Riddell: bug #220664 needs sponsoring please :)
[16:06] <Riddell> yuriy: what's usenix?
[16:07]  * \sh grabs another coffee
[16:07] <seele> Riddell: big unix conf
[16:07] <yuriy> Riddell: http://usenix.org/about/
[16:08] <seele> yuriy: i hope you got the student rate
[16:08] <Riddell> apachelogger: that's just for hardy?
[16:08] <yuriy> seele: probably. university's paying for it
[16:09] <apachelogger> Riddell: intrepid, I recreated the debdiff for intrepid's needs
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[16:10] <seele> \sh: hmm.. you want bugs?  crashed on incorrect password
[16:11] <\sh> seele: known :) we changed the bug handling today ;)
[16:11] <seele> ah ok, hehe
[16:12] <\sh> seele: the exception handling to be more precise ;)
[16:13] <seele> \sh: so as for what you could put on your toolbar, i think fetching bugs and toggling the personal bug page panel would be useful
[16:13] <seele> i don't normally recommend putting a quit button on there though
[16:14] <\sh> seele: yeah...I just need some nice icons for the actions...that's why I'm hiding those actions ;)
[16:14] <\sh> from the toolbar ;)
[16:14] <seele> ok
[16:15] <seele> i have bugs on my launchpad page but nothing is showing up in leonov.  should i assume it's just not working yet or are they not the same thing?
[16:15] <\sh> seele: if you know somebody who is good in things like designing good oxygen icons please send him/her to #leonov :)
[16:15] <seele> when i think of my personal bug page, i think of this page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~celeste
[16:16] <\sh> seele: you are logged in with your lp user login id? (the email address) and your password, right?
[16:16] <seele> for fetch bugs, you could probably use one of the download icons
[16:16] <seele> yep
[16:16] <\sh> seele: start leonov.py with the "-d" switch to see what the debug output is spitting out...
[16:16] <seele> ok, mom
[16:16] <seele> instead of -f?
[16:17] <\sh> no ... python ./leonov.py -f kde -d
[16:17] <\sh> or just python ./leonov.py -d ;) kde is the default
[16:17] <\sh> it also checks your $DESKTOP_SESSION ;)
[16:18] <nixternal> Riddell: have tried beta 2 yet
[16:18] <seele> ah, there we go.  i wonder if i just didn't notice the tree widget change
[16:18] <apachelogger> Riddell: bug 241617 - should I provide a transitional package or just change the binary name?
[16:18] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 241617 in kdesdk-kde4 "duplicate file conflict betwen packages" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241617
[16:18] <apachelogger> for the PPA that is
[16:19] <\sh> seele: yeah the "+" icon in the oxy style treewidget is not as good as in plastique
[16:19] <seele> \sh: ok, so i have my bugs.  how do i get them to show up in Basic Information?
[16:19] <\sh> seele: double click on one :)
[16:19] <seele> \sh: i tried clicking, double clicking, dragging... nothing's happening
[16:20] <\sh> seele: it takes some time...that's LP :(
[16:20] <seele> i have a progressbar in my statusbar that says 75%
[16:20] <\sh> and html parsing
[16:20] <Riddell> apachelogger: uploaded your first one
[16:20] <\sh> seele: which branch did you use?
[16:20] <Riddell> apachelogger: I don't follow what's happening on bug 241617
[16:20] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 241617 in kdesdk-kde4 "duplicate file conflict betwen packages" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241617
[16:21] <\sh> lp:~shermann/leonov/leonov-kde-mdi-style ? the progressbar is not in use right now
[16:21] <seele> oh, that's the problem.  i followed the instructions and they said only leonov
[16:22] <\sh> seele: use the  lp:~shermann/leonov/leonov-kde-mdi-style branch :)
[16:22] <seele> yep.. on it
[16:22] <seele> do i have to link the launchpad bugs again?
[16:23] <apachelogger> Riddell: thanks ... as for 241617: I just digged up the answer myself :)
[16:23] <\sh> seele: if the link is not there anymore, yes...if it's still there, no :)
[16:23] <apachelogger> woah, digged is pretty wrong
[16:23]  * apachelogger needs coffee
[16:24] <seele> ah hah.. cool
[16:25] <\sh> that sounds happy :)
[16:25] <seele> \sh: the personal tasks pane should be on the left.  youre trying to create a workflow with selecting a bug and then viewing details.  with the pane on the right it feels like you are moving backwards
[16:26] <seele> i tried dragging it to the left and pinning it, but it just went back to the right so i guess you cant do it that way
[16:26] <\sh> seele: you can...
[16:26] <seele> bug 203690
[16:27] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 203690 in kdesudo-kde4 "kdesudo does not display correct comment in some cases" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203690
[16:27] <seele> i thought tonio fixed that
[16:27] <\sh> seele: you need to move the mouse cursor a bit down the left window border until it opens the dock area...
[16:27] <seele> \sh: ah, i see.  it is easier to do when you are in window mode instead of tab mode
[16:28] <seele> \sh: anyway.. that position should be default imo
[16:28] <\sh> seele: yeah...fixed that :)
[16:29] <\sh> seele: this behaviour of the dock area is bugging me too..I can't change it it's somewhere hidden in the deep qt tree ;)
[16:30] <\sh> seele: but it saves the position of the dock widget for the next time :)
[16:31] <seele> \sh: what is the difference between Personal Tasks and Tasklist of $name?
[16:31] <\sh> seele: the URL to fetch ;)
[16:31] <seele> right.. but what is the difference in content?
[16:32] <\sh> seele: when you have your bugreport open, and click on "show reporters task list" and "reporter != you" it shows the contents of the bugs of the reporter
[16:32] <seele> i got a bunch of page errors so nothing populated.  but i dont have a lot of LP activity so i dont know if it broke or if it was debugging
[16:32] <seele> ooooh ok
[16:33] <\sh> seele: e.g. subscribe to bug #239140
[16:33] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 239140 in soyuz "[Wishlist] Live Build Logfile View " [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/239140
[16:34] <\sh> seele: I reported the bug, if you "Fetch BUgs" again for your personal task list, it shows the bug under "subscribed"...when you open the bug report, and click on the "Show reporters tasks" you can examine my tasks :)
[16:35] <seele> right
[16:35] <seele> what are some of the things you would need the reporter's tasks for?
[16:36] <\sh> seele: curiousity , eventually to check my students bugs etc.
[16:37] <seele> are bugs called tasks in launchpad?  or can you create tasks in addition to bugs?
[16:38] <\sh> seele: all "bugreports" are named "Tasks" internally
[16:38] <seele> ok, so it's launchpad jargon
[16:38] <seele> is this all read-only so far?  i dont see any edit functions
[16:39] <\sh> seele: because you can have a report for several tasks (in upstream projects, distro tasks, and as well on packages in distros) everything is a task
[16:39] <\sh> seele: right now, we didn't implement the "commit" stuff...this will be started next week :)
[16:39] <seele> ok
[16:39] <seele> some styleguide stuff i'm noticing
[16:39] <\sh> seele: that's why I'm
[16:40] <seele> labels shoudl be right aligned, so report no. summary, and reporter shoul be flush against their text widgets
[16:40] <\sh> interested to hear your opinion to some UI stuff...being a dev and a LP user, I style the UI for "my needs" and I need people who are objective ;)
[16:40] <seele> i'll have to learn more about this other people's tasklist thing.  i think the button might not be in the right place
[16:41] <seele> report number and report date seem like they should go together
[16:41] <seele> and then you could put the get tasklist button near the report name so they are associated together
[16:41] <seele> i'll have to check the guidelines, but i think text that can never be edited (e.g. report no.) should be text in the pane and not in a non-editable widget
[16:42] <seele> so report no. summary, date, and reporter would be regular text, not in text boxes.  otherwise it looks like you can edit them
[16:42] <\sh> seele: can you note all that down in a bug^Wtask report on launchpad.net/leonov ? :)
[16:42] <seele> yeah sure
[16:43] <seele> do you want one big bug report for ui stuff or individual ones for each issue?
[16:43] <\sh> seele: do as you like :)
[16:43] <seele> one report it is! hehe
[16:44] <\sh> seele: when you want, attach some mockups (hand drawings or whatever) to the report too :) the same we have to do with the gtk frontend..
[16:45] <seele> ok.  i can work on mockups later tonight.  i should be working right now, but the project i have today is terribly boring
[16:45] <\sh> seele: the intention is: we want to make it right :)
[16:46] <\sh> seele: and it's quite difficult to find people knowledgable in UI style and UI usability :)
[16:50] <Riddell> apachelogger: going to find time for filelight before import freeze tomorrow?
[16:50] <apachelogger> yes
[16:50] <apachelogger> Riddell: I tried uploading 2 weeks ago
[16:51] <apachelogger> the package got still rejected
[16:51] <Riddell> apachelogger: with what error?
[16:52] <apachelogger> Rejected:
[16:52] <apachelogger> MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive
[16:52] <apachelogger> Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification.
[16:52] <Riddell> sounds like you're building against debian's .orig and not urs
[16:52] <apachelogger> the version was 1.0-2build1
[16:52] <Riddell> ours
[16:52] <apachelogger> hm
[16:52] <\sh> ok...time to leave the office and preparing for the great soccer game :)
[16:53] <apachelogger> Riddell: debian's should be ours really
[16:53] <Riddell> apachelogger: but it isn't..
[16:53] <\sh> seele: thx in advance :) cu tomorrow :)
[16:54] <apachelogger> Riddell: would an 2ubuntu1 get through?
[16:54] <Riddell> yes
[16:54] <Riddell> if it's built against the correct .orig file
[16:55] <apachelogger> I'll take a look at it in a minute
[16:57] <seele> \sh: np
[17:56] <apachelogger> Riddell: actually we wouldn't want to use our .orig as it causes issues with filelight-l10n imported from debian, how can I override the md5 check?
[18:07] <Riddell> apachelogger: what issues does it cause with filelight-l10n?
[18:07] <Riddell> apachelogger: you can't override the md5sum check, the .orig can't be changed
[18:07] <apachelogger> omg
[18:07] <apachelogger> Riddell: our .orig includes the po direcotry used in -l10n
[18:08] <apachelogger> hm, I could just create a debian/install file and not install the l10n stuff
[18:09] <Riddell> you could
[18:10] <seele> anyone here use an internationalized keyboard? i cant figure out how to get a regular single quote/apostrophe instead of an accent
[18:10] <seele> ´
[18:10] <seele> oh, that didn work in open office
[18:11] <Riddell> it depends to what the keyboard is internationalised
[18:12] <seele> generic 101 key.  my single quote turned in to the tilted one which is tilted in the wrong direction
[18:12] <seele> do i have to remap it to the correct character?
[18:12] <seele> oh, US generic.  dunno if that part matters
[18:17] <seele> hmm.. i guess wordpress escapes the tilted apostrophe so it won´t matter anyway
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[18:22] <apachelogger> -.-
[18:22] <apachelogger> Riddell: applying patches fails due to different Makefile.ins
[18:23] <Riddell> wise man says, don't bother patching Makefile.ins
[18:23] <apachelogger> poor debian ain't wise :|
[18:27] <apachelogger> Riddell: I think I'll just apply useful changes from debian
[19:06] <apachelogger> Riddell: filelight uploaded
[19:07] <Riddell> yay
[19:08] <apachelogger> Riddell: what's next?
[19:09] <Riddell> I think we're good for kde merges
[19:10] <apachelogger> Riddell: did someone merge amarok yet?
[19:10] <apachelogger> I noticed debian has a new maintainer and loads of changes
[19:10] <Riddell> I didn't notice it in merges.ubuntu.com
[19:11] <Riddell> oh, because we have a epoch
[19:11] <Riddell> so that could do with a merge indeed
[19:11]  * apachelogger merges amarok
[19:18] <ScottK> New python-qt4 was just uploaded too.
[19:52]  * jussi01 tickles stdin
[19:53]  * stdin flops about wildly
[20:06] <apachelogger> hm
[20:07] <apachelogger> does simple-patchsys respect patches/series?
[20:08] <stdin> doesn't look like it
[20:08] <stdin> looks like it just runs through all the files in debian/patches
[20:10] <apachelogger> awful
[20:11]  * apachelogger switches amarok to quilt
[20:11] <stdin> it does say "simple" ;)
[20:11] <apachelogger> simple doesn't mean dangerous :P
[20:12] <seele> grr.. int´l keyboard fail
[20:12] <seele> so i guess wordpress doesn´t convert fancy quotes inside html tags :P
[20:34] <Riddell> ScottK: did you say you had a fix for python-qt3 compile?
[20:57] <harolddong> where is the folder view plasmoid is the latest packages?
[20:58] <Riddell> kdebase-plasmoid
[21:01] <Riddell> well, kdebase-plasma
[21:03] <harolddong> I see kdeplasmoids which is installed but neither of the names you mentioned
[21:13] <smarter> harolddong: libplasma2?
[21:15] <harolddong> libplasma2 is already installed as well
[21:16] <smarter> w00t, finally we have a working kdebindings/python-kde4
[21:21] <stdin> harolddong: the package was missing, kdebase-plasma-kde4 should be in the repos whenever the buildd decide to get around to it
[21:22] <stdin> doesn't help that someone has decided to built the linux kernel over and over again :|
[21:24] <apachelogger> happens a lot
[21:25] <stdin> amd64: 37 builds waiting in queue, i386: 22 builds waiting in queue
[21:25] <Tm_T> oh boy
[21:25] <Tm_T> collect2: ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault]
[21:25] <stdin> only lpia is available, and no one runs lpia anyway :p
[21:26] <stdin> well, when ld crashes, bad things are happening
[21:26] <Tm_T> I really wonder why ld keeps segfaulting
[21:27] <Tm_T> I don't know how to track this issue down
[21:41] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes.  It's done (merged the new upstream where they dropped the konsole bits).
[21:52] <Riddell> ScottK: but it hasn't been uploaded?
[22:02] <JontheEchidna> @Packagers of 4.1 beta packages, you might want to look at bug 240197
[22:05] <stdin> well, I didn't package that one ;)
[22:08] <JontheEchidna> heh
[22:10] <stdin> kdesdk-kde4 4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy2~ppa1 uploaded
[22:10] <stdin> now to wait several hours for the build to start...
[22:20] <daSkreech> metellius: Ping
[22:42] <smarter> Riddell: ping
[22:59] <blistov> i accidentally installed using Canadian key layout, but the console can't deal with the accents.
[23:00] <blistov> How do I switch it back to US?
[23:00] <daSkreech> Support should be in #kubuntu
[23:05] <blistov> ok, is the console being ... un-usable also a support issue?
[23:05] <blistov> ie, can't type, no slash...
[23:05] <blistov> replaced with an accented e...
[23:06] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes.  I think.
[23:06]  * ScottK looks
[23:07] <ScottK> Riddell: Sorry.  I had a solution to python-kde3, not -qt3.
[23:07] <ScottK> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/python-kde3/3.16.1-1ubuntu1
[23:56] <Riddell> smhi
[23:56] <Riddell> oh
[23:57] <Riddell> ScottK: ah, silly me