2008/06/22/#xubuntu.txt

[00:02] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: no idea, it works for me out of the box
[00:04] <cheeseboy> wats the opengl dev package called?
[00:18] <cheeseboy> configure: error: *** OpenGL header file not found!
[00:18] <cheeseboy> wha i need to install?
[00:24] <billenium> When i try to install my 8800GT drivers through xubuntu with Envy it says that it does not support my Operating System... It supported gnome, but not this... Why?
[00:24] <cody-somerville> billenium, should work :/
[00:25] <billenium> what ever :P
[00:25] <billenium> ill be back on Monday
[00:49] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: envy came back from the grave?
[00:49] <cody-somerville> I guess so :)
[00:50] <TheSheep> scary
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[01:32] <snurdle> hi
[01:34] <Genelyk> release Interpred?
[01:39] <cody-somerville> Genelyk, hmm?
[01:40] <snurdle> hi
[01:40] <snurdle>  Can i translate xubuntu desktop's words into my language anyway by myself? because there are some words missing
[01:41] <Genelyk> date of  alpha 1
[01:41] <cody-somerville> snurdle, certainly :)
[01:41] <snurdle> oh
[01:42] <cody-somerville> Genelyk, I dunno. It got delayed.
[01:42] <cody-somerville> snurdle, https://translations.launchpad.net/
[01:43] <Genelyk> ok , i will wait...
[01:43] <cody-somerville> Genelyk, There are daily builds if you're looking to test
[01:44] <snurdle> ok ty
[01:44] <Genelyk> download opensuse...  my space hard disk is short..
[01:46] <cody-somerville> Genelyk, hmm?
[01:48] <Genelyk> use 4.5  gb  , free space 300 mb
[02:01] <snurdle> nn
[02:48] <HiedraVenonata> I have a new computer with Xubuntu, and was just wondering if it is normal that you cannot drag on the desktop and create a box which you can use to select multiple icons? Trivial, but I was just wondering. I'm used to Ubuntu...
[02:49] <cody-somerville> HiedraVenonata, correct :)
[02:50] <HiedraVenonata> Okay
[02:50] <HiedraVenonata> thanks
[03:23] <rodents210> I am on 8.04, upgraded from Gutsy Gibbon, and now once I log in all I have is a light blue screen and the cursor. The desktop never comes up. How do I fix this?
[03:36] <cody-somerville> rodents210, Hi
[03:36] <cody-somerville> This is a known bug
[03:36] <cody-somerville> bug #232364
[03:36] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 232364 in dbus "dbus-launch hangs at session start waiting on socket output in libxcb" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/232364
[03:46] <rodents210> ok thanks
[03:49] <rodents210> Sorry about this but I'm new to linux. I'm assuming what I do is boot up and go to failsafe terminal, right? But what do I type?
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[04:34] <cody-somerville> rodents210, no
[04:34] <cody-somerville> The easiest solution is to press ctrl + alt + backspace to kill the x server and attempt to login again
[04:34] <cody-somerville> You can also press ctrl + alt + F1, login, and type: ps x
[04:35] <cody-somerville> Find the process "dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session" and its corresponding process id
[04:35] <cody-somerville> then type: kill -9 <process id>
[04:35] <cody-somerville> replacing <process id> with the pid
[04:35] <cody-somerville> Us ps x to verify that the process was killed and then you can logout by typing: exit
[04:36] <cody-somerville> Press ctrl + alt + F7 to return to your desktop
[04:36] <rodents210> okay I'll try
[04:39] <anusha> hai i am using xubuntu.in my pc when i am using firefox it just closed by itself.can anyone tell me the reason behind that and what shoud i do for that.
[04:39] <rodents210> I don't have that process
[04:39] <rodents210> there's only 5 and one of them is ps x
[04:42] <cody-somerville> rodents210, what are they all?
[04:43] <cody-somerville> rodents210, this may be very important, apologies for making you type it out :)
[04:45] <cody-somerville> rodents210, I have to run but please e-mail me those details :)
[04:45] <cody-somerville> I'll be back online in roughly 30 minutes.
[04:46] <nubuntu> hello guys.  anybody know why 'take screenshot' and it's related packages aren't showing up in my menu after installation?
[05:19] <nubuntu> hello guys.  anybody know why 'take screenshot' and it's related packages aren't showing up in my menu after installation?
[05:21] <nubuntu> or how to launch it from terminal?
[05:32] <nubuntu> wish someone could help, i got a google earth screen i really need pic of
[05:53] <nubuntu> oh, well, gotta go get a walmart fix.  check in laters.
[05:59] <anusha> hey my firefox is getting close by itself.is there any problem in my pc.what is the solution for that
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[08:11] <solotim> any Empathy user here?
[08:46] <solotim> too quiet here
[08:46] <zoredache> !night
[08:46] <ubottu> It's the middle of the night in the US and Europe, and surrounds.  This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question.  Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake.  This is particularly true in the quieter channels.
[08:48] <solotim> ok, i see. sorry for my complaint
[08:48] <zoredache> no nead to be sorry... just was letting you know
[08:49] <solotim> ok. I'll keep waitting...
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[10:03] <JannoTT> anybody here?
[10:03] <JannoTT> anyways i need to change log in screen reso. It fucks up my splash screen
[10:04] <xbj9000> ?
[10:05] <JannoTT> middle of spash screen it changes the reso. But spash screen does not soo i will see only part of it.
[10:05] <JannoTT> so i gotta get log in screen reso down
[10:05] <xbj9000> try editing xorg.conf and removing references to resolutions you don't intend to use
[10:05] <wasabi_> does xubuntu have a config editor for the desktop effect?
[10:06] <wasabi_> i wanna make it completely minimal to increase fps
[10:07] <wasabi_> avant windows manager does not work unless i turn on desktop effect. but it's slowing down my laptop considerably
[10:07] <JannoTT> where is xorg conf? :D
[10:07] <siggjen> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:07] <xbj9000> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:07] <xbj9000> save a copy for backup first
[10:08] <xbj9000> and know where it is: a broken xorg can keep you from logging into your desktop until you fix it
[10:09] <JannoTT> there aren't any resolutions inside it
[10:09] <xbj9000> figures
[10:09] <xbj9000> xorg has been kind of broken since Hardy
[10:10] <xbj9000> here's the work-around I suggest to people:
[10:10] <xbj9000> boot up an older 7.10 CD and copy the xorg.conf from there and save it to a floppy or whatever, then use it to overwrite your broken xonrg.conf back in Hardy
[10:11] <JannoTT> i dont have 7.10 CD i only have 8.04 i started using ubuntu when it came out
[10:12] <xbj9000> yeah the old ones are still available though
[10:12] <JannoTT> i gotta download old ubuntu to change log-in screen reso? Something is realy wrong here
[10:14] <xbj9000> yup   :/
[10:14] <xbj9000> nobody seems very concerned over it though
[10:14] <xbj9000> anyway it's an easy fix aside from all the time you have to waste
[10:14] <JannoTT> strange. Im gonna test my conf now. Added few lines i found from internet
[10:17] <JannoTT> works like a charm
[10:17] <JannoTT> few lines from xorg configuring tutorial
[10:17] <xbj9000> awesome glad you fixed it ok
[10:18] <xbj9000> however I still suggest my fix if you have the time
[10:18] <xbj9000> or if you have further xorg problems
[10:30] <nubuntu> hello guys.  anybody know why 'take screenshot' and it's related packages aren't showing up in my menu after installation?
[10:30] <Olgem> I thought there isn't a very configurable xorg.conf because the new xorg release in hardy "doesn't need" it anymore.
[10:34] <JannoTT> nubuntu,  u mean xfce4 screenshoter plugin or what?
[10:37] <nubuntu> not sure, it's the one that gets included if you select disk usage analyser, or that disk usage analyser gets included if you select take screenshot.  but it doesn't appear in the menu after installation and the command screenshot does not launch it.  talking about the add/remove function, not synaptic...
[10:38] <JannoTT> oh :df
[10:39] <nubuntu> i know the command baobad launches the disk usage analyser, is there some other command to launch screenshot?
[10:40] <nubuntu> baobab, i mean
[10:40] <JannoTT> gnome-screenshot --interactive for gui
[10:41] <nubuntu> gnome-screenshot-interactive ?
[10:41] <nubuntu> complete ?
[10:41] <JannoTT> no with two --
[10:42] <nubuntu> ok, i go try; thanks
[10:42] <nubuntu> do you know why it doesn't appear in the accesory menu?  i've installed on other machines and i think usually appears no prob?
[10:43] <nubuntu> (not that important if i know how to term it)
[11:40] <JannoTT> hi
[12:09] <hyppias> networkManager or wicd ?
[12:36] <Paulao> how i can install gnome without screwing or changing my original xfce xubuntu files ?
[12:58] <Odd-rationale> Paulao: just install ubuntu-desktop (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop)
[16:36] <andreas3045> hello
[16:36] <andreas3045> has anyone else had the problem that two windows open when a removable medium is inserted?
[16:36] <andreas3045> (in xubuntu 8.04)
[16:41] <TheSheep> no, not in 8.04, but it happened in dapper
[16:41] <TheSheep> can't remember what coused it
[16:41] <andreas3045> jup, I found that thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202862
[16:41] <andreas3045> but can't really see a solution
[16:42] <TheSheep> try killing all thunars and trying again
[16:45] <andreas3045> ok, great: -> killing all Tunars solves the problem: media is inserted and no window opens, but icon appears on the desktop - ok
[16:45] <andreas3045> -> exactly one tunar open -> one window opens, as i want it
[16:46] <andreas3045> now how can I make sure only one tunar is opened at the start?
[16:46] <TheSheep> andreas3045: it's the norm
[16:47] <andreas3045> yeah but the problem exists even right after starting the PC
[16:48] <andreas3045> but maybe its part of the session and will be remembered?
[16:48] <TheSheep> possible, just save your session after killing those thunars
[16:48] <TheSheep> or clear the session by deleting ~/.cache/sessions
[16:48] <andreas3045> ok ... thx for the help
[16:49] <TheSheep> I wonder what made thunar start two times
[16:49] <andreas3045> btw everything else works really great -> scanner, printer, digital camera, mp3 player
[16:49] <andreas3045> no idea ...
[16:49] <TheSheep> it normally only starts one copy, and just opens new windows when you start more
[16:50] <andreas3045> I think there were three Tunars even :)
[16:51] <andreas3045> well anyways - thx for your help .. I will try restarting and see if only one Tunar appears ...
[16:51] <andreas3045> bye
[18:21] <partylib>  I want to login to my active directory domain, in ubuntu
[18:21] <partylib> is it possible
[18:26] <TheSheep> partylib: it is generally possible, but relatively complicated to set up
[18:26] <partylib> thier nO gui way i.e. easy way of doing it
[18:26] <partylib> oh k
[18:26] <partylib> thanks
[18:29] <magic_ninja> whats a good filesystem for data storage
[18:29] <TheSheep> magic_ninja: what kind of data
[18:30] <magic_ninja> just music movie and stuff
[18:30] <magic_ninja> backup partition
[18:30] <magic_ninja> i went with ext3
[18:30] <TheSheep> magic_ninja: just use ext3
[18:30] <TheSheep> yeah
[18:30] <TheSheep> it's a good universal solution :)
[18:30] <magic_ninja> what ya been upto TheSheep i havn't seen ya for a while
[18:30] <magic_ninja> just got a new 500 gb hdd and a new computer
[18:30] <magic_ninja> os[Linux 2.6.24-19-generic i686] distro[Debian lenny/sid] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ (AuthenticAMD) @ 2.70GHz] mem[Physical: 756.7MB, 62.3% free] disk[Total: 23.3GB, 42.7% free] video[nVidia Corporation GeForce 7050 PV / nForce 630a] sound[Audigy - Audigy 1 [SB0090]]
[18:31] <magic_ninja> wanting a new grahpics card now
[18:31] <TheSheep> nice
[18:31] <TheSheep> why new graphics?
[18:33] <magic_ninja> this onboard sucks
[18:33] <magic_ninja> its not bad but not what i want
[18:33] <magic_ninja> good god
[18:33] <magic_ninja> this sata is fast
[18:33] <magic_ninja> going from ide to sata
[18:33] <magic_ninja> like 3 minutes to label and format a drive
[18:33] <magic_ninja> gfg
[18:35] <TheSheep> I guess if you play games a lot, it makes sense
[18:35] <magic_ninja> i was dumb i ordered an IDE dvd burner and forgot the mobo i was getting was sata
[18:35] <TheSheep> ouch
[18:35] <magic_ninja> its all good i'll sell it on ebay and order me a sata one
[18:35] <magic_ninja> but i still got the ide hdd i was using
[18:35] <magic_ninja> i'll use it for something, keep it in
[18:35] <magic_ninja> its going bad though
[18:42] <magic_ninja> thats odd
[18:42] <magic_ninja> for some reason my computer just restarted
[18:44] <magic_ninja> sheep
[18:44] <magic_ninja> can you help me with some permissions real fast
[18:45] <TheSheep> magic_ninja: I'm sorry, we obey the rules, you have to ask the question
[18:46] <magic_ninja> lol
[18:46] <magic_ninja> i know
[18:46] <magic_ninja> seein if you were still around
[18:46] <magic_ninja> i got it now though
[18:46] <TheSheep> sometimes just formulating the question helps
[18:47] <magic_ninja> how would i chown so my regular users will be able to copyt he fiels
[18:47] <magic_ninja> *files
[18:47] <TheSheep> chmod -R a+rX directory
[18:49] <magic_ninja> what is the a+rX
[18:49] <magic_ninja> if you don't mind me asking?
[18:49] <magic_ninja> the man pages on those commands confuse me, always have
[18:50] <magic_ninja> cp: cannot stat `/media/disk-2/My Music/Drowning Pool - Desensitize/07-drowning_pool-love_and_war-gti.mp3': Permission denied
[18:50] <magic_ninja> i did the command with sudo, thats odd
[18:51] <TheSheep> adds read rights for everyone to files and directories (a+r) and execute rights (aka. enter rights) for everyone to directories, -R does it recursively
[18:51] <TheSheep> what filesystem is on that disk?
[18:51] <magic_ninja> ext3. for the new, reiser for the old
[18:52] <TheSheep> should work :/
[18:54] <magic_ninja> i was reading in #hardware, man they make a 10 ft. long 8000 dollar speaker cable
[18:54] <magic_ninja> thats just absurd
[18:54] <partylib> oh
[18:55] <magic_ninja> NO reason for that
[18:56] <TheSheep> magic_ninja: there is a good (although pretty old) article about that: http://www.acmqueue.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=printer_friendly&pid=98&page=1
[18:56] <TheSheep> alas, it's offtopic
[19:02] <magic_ninja> TheSheep, thats a good artcile
[19:03] <magic_ninja> TheSheep, thats being caused by bad blocks on the disk
[19:05] <ALPSINC> hello all
[19:05] <ALPSINC> how can i make all my updates get installed automaticly
[19:05] <ALPSINC> (it's for a server enviroment)
[19:06] <ALPSINC> with xfce desktop installed, and loads of other software
[19:07] <TheSheep> ALPSINC: system->software sources->updates
[19:07] <ALPSINC> ahh
[19:07] <ALPSINC> and will that restart automaticly also?
[19:08] <ALPSINC> err, is there an option for that?
[19:08] <TheSheep> no
[19:08] <ALPSINC> ok thanks :)
[19:09] <magic_ninja> grr
[19:09] <magic_ninja> lol
[19:10] <magic_ninja> for some reason i try to delete certain fiels my computer reboots
[19:10] <TheSheep> that's bad, it shouldn't do that even with fault hdd
[19:10] <TheSheep> faulty
[19:12] <ALPSINC> hahahahha i had windows 2000 instaled on my other server
[19:12] <ALPSINC> must format quickly
[19:15] <magic_ninja> man
[19:15] <magic_ninja> this sata drive flies compared to this ide
[19:20] <ALPSINC> ohh can you install xubuntu offf of a UFD?
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[19:29] <lara0101> is there anyway of making the keyboard act as a mouse? I don't have a USB mouse on my HTPC but would like to navigate some menus
[19:30] <lc2> lara0101: yes there is
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[19:31] <lc2> lara0101: hit alt+shift+numlock
[19:31] <lc2> press numbers on your numeric keypad
[19:31] <lc2> profit!
[19:33] <lara0101> nice! thank you
[19:34] <lara0101> actually that's not working.
[19:34] <lara0101> haha
[19:34] <lara0101> how can I get to the top right pull down menu without a keyboard?
[19:37] <xboxman> can anybody help me with my SSH server problem ><
[19:37] <lc2> lara0101: control+esc
[19:37] <lc2> lara0101: it works here, xubuntu 8.10
[19:38] <lc2> lara0101: did you hear a beep when you hit alt+shift+numlock?
[19:39] <lc2> from your pc speakar
[19:40] <lara0101> no I didn't
[19:40] <lara0101> control-esc worked
[19:40] <lc2> well, shit
[19:40] <lara0101> yeah, weird
[19:40] <lara0101> oh, it just worked
[19:40] <lc2> weee
[19:40] <xboxman> lol
[19:41] <lara0101> thanks
[19:41] <lc2> HERE TO SERVE
[19:41] <xboxman> anyone here good with ssh and stuff?
[19:41] <lc2> xboxman: depends, why
[19:41] <xboxman> i can connect locally but not externally
[19:41] <lc2> xboxman: what happens when you try
[19:41] <xboxman> and i know my router is doing its job and the correct ports are open
[19:42] <xboxman> one sec
[19:42] <lc2> does it just hang and time out?
[19:42] <xboxman> it first says Connected to server running SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.7p1 Debian-8ubuntu1.2
[19:42] <xboxman> then it hangs, and says error in key exchange
[19:42] <xboxman> but locally it connects in a snap
[19:43] <lc2> xboxman: make sure you don't have any old ssh keys for that host stored on the machine you're trying to connect to
[19:43] <lc2> you're trying to connect from*
[19:44] <lc2> failing that, you might also want to run a packet sniffer to see what's being exchanged
[19:44] <lc2> if nothing's being exchanged, then you've got some unresolved router problem
[19:44] <xboxman> hmm ok ill go try it now
[19:45] <lc2> to me, that sounds like it's connecting, but not exchanging anything at all, which implies a problem with your router (i.e. if you have a naive port forwarder accepting the connection, trying to connect to the host, then dropping the connection when it can't)
[19:45] <lc2> most likely explanation: you have a firewall set up on the server machine which is silently dropping connections from either the router (if it's a naive port forwarder) or from the remote host
[19:46] <lc2> BUT WAT DO I NO LOL
[19:47] <xboxman> xD
[19:47] <xboxman> got rid of old ssh keys and nothing >>
[19:47] <lc2> xboxman: packet sniffer time
[19:47] <xboxman> yay!
[19:48] <xboxman> ive never used a packet sniffer :P what do i do
[19:48] <lc2> hell if i know
[19:48] <xboxman> this will be fun
[19:48] <xboxman> xD
[19:49] <lc2> haha
[19:49] <lc2> :D
[19:50] <xboxman> does ssh use ipv6 or 4?
[19:50] <lc2> it depends
[19:50] <lc2> if you're connecting over intarwebs, then it's more likely to be ipv4
[19:51] <xboxman> bah this annoyes me too mcuh
[19:51] <lc2> xboxman: this may be quicker if you give me the ip of the server
[19:52] <lc2> i might be able to debug the problem
[19:52] <xboxman> 24.80.199.158 port 103
[19:53] <lc2> xboxman: add a fake login for me
[19:53] <lc2> ---> pm
[19:53] <lc2> give me /bin/true as a shell if you don't trust me :P
[20:02] <lc2> (p.s. it worked for me, it was a problem on the client machine)
[20:05] <Mo> Hi how can i deactivate the desctop icons from my mounted home partition?
[20:05] <lc2> heh, no idea
[20:05]  * lc2 has been wondering that too
[20:07] <Mo> /mnt hides the desktop icon, but the mount point is /home/  :-(
[20:08] <lc2> :\
[20:08] <Mo> :/
[20:08] <LetsGo67> I cannot use my Kodak EasyShare C340 as a card reader in Ubuntu, but it is detected in lsusb.  Can someone help, please?
[20:08] <lc2> LetsGo67: define "cannot use"
[20:08] <lc2> what happens when you plug it in?
[20:09] <LetsGo67> lc2: plugging it in, the computer doesn't react whatsoever.  I am using Xubuntu.  I know that lsusb detects it, but I cannot use it as a USB storage device.
[20:09] <lc2> hold on, plugging in my camera to see what it *should* look like
[20:09] <lc2> sec
[20:10] <LetsGo67> My camera's green light blinks constantly, the screen is off... the cable is right, afaik.
[20:10] <lc2> (by the way, digital cameras suck, get a film slr ;D)
[20:10] <LetsGo67> How come?
[20:11] <LetsGo67> Film SLR?
[20:11] <lc2> (because used film cameras still give you more for your money)
[20:11] <lc2> okay so
[20:11] <LetsGo67> I don't have that kinda cash!
[20:12] <lc2> LetsGo67: i recently got a fujica with four lenses for $50 US, it's not big cash
[20:12] <lc2> anyway
[20:12] <lc2> when you plug your camera in, you don't get an icon for the camera appearing on your desktop?
[20:12] <LetsGo67> Nope.
[20:12] <Mo> thats what i want ^^
[20:12] <LetsGo67> Nor do I get it in Thunar, or /media/
[20:12] <LetsGo67> Yo MO
[20:12] <LetsGo67> Yo mo
[20:12] <LetsGo67> Yo Mo
[20:12] <lc2> Mo: what, a fujica? :D
[20:13] <lc2> LetsGo67: the only thing i can think of, is that it isn't detecting the camera as a USB mass storage device
[20:13] <lc2> (if the camera is configured such that it'll be expecting to hook up to a printer, that would happen)
[20:14] <LetsGo67> [   45.011042] ACPI: Video Device [OVGA] (multi-head: yes  rom: no  post: no)
[20:14] <lc2> LetsGo67: yup, it's detecting it wrong
[20:14] <LetsGo67> How do I change that?
[20:14] <lc2> LetsGo67: that's a problem with your camera configuration
[20:15] <lc2> LetsGo67: i can't tell you how to fix that
[20:15] <LetsGo67> :(
[20:15]  * lc2 wouldn't know how to set up your camera, doesn't like anything with more than three dials ;D
[20:15] <lc2> LetsGo67: lemme think for a sec though
[20:16] <LetsGo67> Thanks
[20:17] <lc2> LetsGo67: okay, so that's all you get when you plug it in? nothing else?
[20:18] <LetsGo67> Yup.
[20:18] <lc2> LetsGo67: random question, you say you're trying to use your camera as an SD card reader, is it just photos you have on that SD card?
[20:19]  * lc2 has smuggled MP3s into work on a digital camera before, so could understand if that wasn't the case ;D
[20:19] <LetsGo67> Yes, afaik.
[20:19] <lc2> LetsGo67: in that case, you might want to look at something like gphoto2
[20:20] <LetsGo67> I removed the memory card, doesn't show up as a USB device.
[20:20] <lc2> LetsGo67: actually, gtkam would be better (i got the two mixed up)
[20:21] <LetsGo67> What do I do?
[20:21] <lc2> LetsGo67: sudo apt-get install gtkam
[20:22] <lc2> LetsGo67: if that works, then you can look at getting some software that doesn't suck for the same purpose (it just means that for whatever reason, your camera is not showing itself as a usb mass storage device)
[20:22] <LetsGo67> It shows, thanks!
[20:23] <Mo> Okay, other problem. Since the last Update my Wireless AND Wired Lan is not available, i have eeexubuntu 7.10
[20:23] <lc2> LetsGo67: in that case, you want to find some other software for the same purpose that doesn't suck
[20:23] <LetsGo67> But in Ubuntu, I never needed this.
[20:24] <lc2> LetsGo67: yeah weird
[20:24] <LetsGo67> Sure is.
[20:24] <lc2> LetsGo67: anyway, install gthumb or f-spot
[20:24] <jmichaelx> i know this is a bit of a big question, but is xubuntu really that much lighter than ubuntu?
[20:24] <lc2> jmichaelx: yes
[20:24] <lc2> Mo: (i'm thinking about your question btw, not ignoring you)
[20:25] <LetsGo67> lc2: and remove risettro?
[20:25] <lc2> LetsGo67: no, ristretto has its purpose
[20:25] <Mo> lc2 thx :D
[20:26] <lc2> jmichaelx: i run this on a 1.4 athlon with 384mb of RAM, it's plenty fast enough (apart from firefox, but what can you do)
[20:26] <LetsGo67> lc2 if I install gthumb, it will show up as USB device?
[20:26] <lc2> Mo: run ifconfig to see if it is detecting the device
[20:26] <abc1230> Hello, could somebody help me set the resolution of Xubuntu to 1024x768?
[20:26] <LetsGo67> lc2: Opera is better.
[20:26] <lc2> LetsGo67: no, but gthumb will allow you to access your photos, and will look less shit than gtkam does
[20:27] <LetsGo67> abc1230 appp > settings manager
[20:27] <Mo> lc2 i can see the devices eth0 and lo. Before a make the update there was wifi0, ath0, eth0, lo
[20:28] <jmichaelx> lc2: i believe that, i have just had my doubts that xubuntu is all that much lighter than ubuntu. i ran kubuntu on a 500Mhz P3 with 512MB RAM for a long time, btw.
[20:28] <abc1230> LetsGo: I've tried that, but the resolution doesn't show up under the display preferences
[20:28] <lc2> jmichaelx: i'm sorry to hear that ;(
[20:28] <LetsGo67> Why does iTunes run awful?
[20:28] <lc2> abc1230: are you using an older CRT monitor?
[20:28] <LetsGo67> acb1230: is your gfx card/monitor supported?
[20:28] <cheeseboy> i broke apt :(
[20:28] <LetsGo67> sudo apt-get install apt
[20:29] <cheeseboy> (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /home/greg/Desktop/libsdl-net1.2-dev_1.2.5-6_i386.deb (--install):
[20:29] <cheeseboy>  files list file for package `libsdl-net1.2-dev' is missing final newline
[20:29] <cheeseboy> Errors were encountered while processing:
[20:29] <cheeseboy>  /home/greg/Desktop/libsdl-net1.2-dev_1.2.5-6_i386.deb
[20:29] <cheeseboy> how i fix that?
[20:29] <LetsGo67> GTHUMB IS SLOW!
[20:29] <lc2> cheeseboy: oh shi-
[20:30] <lc2> LetsGo67: welcome to gnome ;D
[20:30] <LetsGo67> lc2: error message: Une erreur est intervenue dans la bibliothèque d'entrée-sortie ('Erreur indéfinie'): Pas de description d'erreur disponible
[20:30] <LetsGo67> !language | lc2
[20:30] <ubottu> lc2: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:30] <cheeseboy> lc2?
[20:30] <lc2> cheeseboy: apt is not broken, it's a bad package
[20:30] <abc1230> I've done it before about a year ago, but I can't seem to figure it out anymore
[20:30] <lc2> abc1230: you didn't answer my question
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[20:30] <cheeseboy> well it was fine but my laptop dies during install
[20:31] <abc1230> I'm not sure if I am
[20:31] <LetsGo67> lc2 error message
[20:31] <lc2> abc1230: do you have a large non-flat-screen monitor?
[20:31] <LetsGo67> undefined I/O error.
[20:31] <abc1230> Yes, I do
[20:31] <LetsGo67> lc2 abc1230 fat screens are ugly!
[20:31] <cheeseboy> how do i fix?
[20:31] <lc2> LetsGo67: i have a 21" CRT that weighs as much as me
[20:31] <abc1230> Haha
[20:31] <LetsGo67> cheeseboy just reinstall Ubuntu
[20:31] <lc2> cheeseboy: don't install that package
[20:32] <cheeseboy> i need it
[20:32] <lc2> abc1230: anyway, your problem is that you need to manually set the horizontal sync/vertical refresh rates for your monitor
[20:32] <abc1230> How do I do that?
[20:32] <lc2> cheeseboy: then don't install non-official packages, as i suspect you're trying to do
[20:32] <LetsGo67> lc2: laptop 15.4 WXGA LCD.  :)
[20:33] <cheeseboy> i need it'
[20:33] <LetsGo67> lc2 didja see my error message?
[20:33] <lc2> abc1230: first of all, go to pastebin.com and pasta the contents of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:33] <lc2> abc1230: and then tell me what monitor you have
[20:33] <abc1230> Alright
[20:33] <lc2> LetsGo67: i did, i'm thinking :P
[20:34] <lc2> abc1230: btw, i had the same problem, xorg refused to believe that my monitor could do more than 1152x864@56hz :P
[20:35]  * lc2 can do 1600x1200 at a higher refresh rate than that
[20:35] <LetsGo67> lc2: error only happens when camera turns off by itself, never mind
[20:35] <lc2> LetsGo67: oh :)
[20:35] <LetsGo67> Thanks lc2, ttyl.
[20:35] <Mo> #ubuntu-de
[20:35] <Mo> fc :D
[20:35] <lc2> fc?
[20:35] <lc2> does that stand for something offensive? :D
[20:35] <Mo> wc
[20:36] <abc1230> lc2: Should I send you the link of what I pasted?
[20:36] <lc2> abc1230: yes
[20:37] <abc1230> http://pastebin.com/m6bfcb9b5
[20:38] <lc2> alright
[20:38] <lc2> what monitor do you have?
[20:38] <agahnim> Need help .... where do I go in xubuntu to know which material is working fine and which isnt!!! like in windows with the System - Hardware window
[20:39] <abc1230> A Trinitron...Dell...
[20:39] <lc2> agahnim: not that simple, but we can help you narrow down the problem
[20:39] <abc1230> Let me see if it says anything more specific somewhere on this thing
[20:39] <lc2> you do that :)
[20:40] <agahnim> mmmm okay ... I don't know if I have a problem LOL ... jsut don't know how to know what is working and what is not
[20:40] <agahnim> is it easier under Gnome
[20:40] <lc2> agahnim: define your problem and we might be able to tell you what's causing
[20:40] <lc2> +it
[20:40] <lc2> inb4 "wireless card", i don't know anything about those
[20:41] <abc1230> lc2: UltraScan 1000HS Series Model D1025TM
[20:41] <lc2> abc1230: give me a few moments
[20:41] <lc2> abc1230: does it have a service number where you found those details?
[20:41] <lc2> (would make it a load simpler)
[20:42] <abc1230> Let me check
[20:43] <abc1230> I don't think it does
[20:43] <lc2> alright, let me see what i can do for you anyway
[20:44] <lc2> abc1230: what resolution do you think your monitor can handle
[20:44] <abc1230> 1024x768
[20:44] <lc2> abc1230: can it do more than that?
[20:45] <abc1230> Probably, but I've never really used a resolution higher than 1024x768 on this monitor
[20:45] <agahnim> mmm example how do I put volume up :P
[20:45] <lc2> agahnim: gimme a sec while i work out this for abc1230
[20:46] <lc2> abc1230: okay, then give me a while to find out your monitor specs, <3
[20:46] <abc1230> lc2: Thanks a lot
[20:48] <lc2> abc1230: okay, first of all
[20:48] <lc2> i warn you, you use this strictly at your own risk
[20:49] <abc1230> Alright
[20:49] <lc2> http://pastebin.com/m1b1853a6
[20:49] <lc2> replace your /etc/X11/xorg.conf with that
[20:50] <abc1230> Alright
[20:51] <lc2> tell me when you've done that
[20:51] <lc2> agahnim: back to your question, if you're still here
[20:51] <agahnim> yup
[20:51] <lc2> agahnim: does sound work at all for you?
[20:51] <agahnim> yeah it is
[20:51] <lc2> agahnim:
[20:51] <lc2> oops
[20:51] <agahnim> but can't change volume or don't knwo how to
[20:52] <abc1230> lc2: I get the error "Cannot open file to write" when I try overwriting
[20:52] <lc2> agahnim: okay, right click on the big bar on the top, "Add new item"
[20:52] <lc2> agahnim: select "volume control"
[20:53] <lc2> agahnim: you now have a volume control for the bar thing at the top
[20:53] <agahnim> cool
[20:53] <lc2> abc1230: save it to a file in your home directory
[20:53] <lc2> and open a terminal
[20:53] <agahnim> so their is no place like in windows in ubuntu where you see which drivers are install and which material is working properly or not
[20:53] <lc2> agahnim: not as such, no
[20:54] <lc2> agahnim: there *are* ways to figure out if drivers are working right or not, but it's not as simple as that
[20:54] <agahnim> do you know if it is easier under gnome or is it pretty much all the same under ubuntu
[20:55] <lc2> agahnim: dunno, never used gnome
[20:55] <abc1230> lc2: Ok, I have the .txt file in my home directory
[20:55] <lc2> abc1230: okay, first thing
[20:56] <lc2> cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf backupxorg.conf
[20:56] <lc2> then
[20:56] <lc2> sudo cp whateveryoucalleditgoeshere.txt /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:56] <lc2> but for the love of god use tab-completion to make sure your filename exists so you don't nuke your xorg.conf
[20:56] <lc2> there's one more step after that
[20:57] <abc1230> Ok
[20:57] <agahnim> okay so if I understand good ... I have to test every functionality so I know that they work
[20:58] <lc2> agahnim: well, usually stuff works, if it doesn't, finding out the problem is somewhat more involved
[20:58] <lc2> abc1230: did you do that?
[20:58] <abc1230> Yup
[20:58] <lc2> abc1230: okay
[20:58] <lc2> abc1230: just to make sure
[20:58] <lc2> abc1230: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:58] <agahnim> okay ... its just that I'm on a hp pavilion dv6000 and they are made pretty much only to work under Vista
[20:58] <lc2> to make sure you actually have something in there
[20:59] <lc2> agahnim: and you're using xubuntu now?
[20:59] <abc1230> Yup, there's something there
[20:59] <lc2> okay
[20:59] <lc2> now
[20:59] <lc2> go to applications -> settings -> settings manager
[20:59] <lc2> display
[20:59] <lc2> make sure your resolution is set to default
[20:59] <agahnim> yeah im on xubuntu ... got so mad after trying for month to pass from vista to xp so I decided to try ubuntu and it seems to work pretty good
[20:59] <lc2> it *has* to be set to "Default" for this to work
[21:00] <lc2> then log out
[21:00] <lc2> profit thereafter
[21:00] <lc2> agahnim: linux either works or doesn't work, if you're using it now that's a pretty good sign things are A-OK
[21:00] <abc1230> Alright, thanks a bunch :)
[21:00] <lc2> abc1230: come back and tell me how it went
[21:00] <abc1230> Alright
[21:00] <agahnim> hehehe its all good then ... except the volume button on the laptop keyboard ... everything that I have tred works
[21:01] <arigold> hi, I ran into a problem with our freebsd 4.6 server, and decided to go with ubuntu server, but wanted to configure it quick and dirty - MY command line is weak these days
[21:01] <lc2> agahnim: oh
[21:01] <lc2> if you want the volume key to work there's probably a way to do it
[21:01] <arigold> can I just load xfce or xubuntu-desktop package on here (256Megs) and configure it then make the default x stay off after boots?
[21:01] <lc2> arigold: hello fello freebsd exile :)
[21:02] <lc2> fellow*
[21:02] <agahnim> okay if you know let me know ... worst case I'll try to look around
[21:02] <lc2> arigold: and yes, install ubuntu server edition
[21:02] <lc2> agahnim: let me think, okay
[21:02] <agahnim> Thanks
[21:03] <lc2> agahnim: applications -> settings -> keyboard
[21:03] <lc2> "shortcuts" tab
[21:03] <lc2> hit "add"
[21:04] <agahnim> their is no keyboard in setting
[21:04] <lc2> the command to lower volume should be: aumix -v-10
[21:04] <lc2> the command to raise the volume should be: aumix -v+10
[21:04] <agahnim> in setting manager?
[21:04] <lc2> yes, sorry
[21:04] <agahnim> good
[21:04] <lc2> i think i killed abc1230 :\
[21:05]  * lc2 is glad he gave the "at your own risk" disclaimer... :/
[21:05] <lc2> .. ;\ :D
[21:05] <lc2> in after monitor on fire
[21:05] <arigold> lc2: hi! I can complain for hours about freebsd but I have to build a replacement. So I will load the GUI and give it a try.. I already loaded ubuntu-server
[21:06] <agahnim> You are the man lc2 ... works as a charm ... do you know how to do mute also :P
[21:06] <lc2> agahnim: hm, one sec
[21:07] <arigold> what are the requirements for RAM on xubuntu ?  192+ for stable GUI?
[21:07] <lc2> agahnim: aumix -v0
[21:07] <lc2> arigold: i believe that's about it
[21:08] <agahnim> man you rock!!! just love it when thing just work that easily
[21:08] <lc2> agahnim: :) you're welcome
[21:08] <arigold> lc2: finally, my ATI is integrated, so I suppose lspci will not show the ATI chip, right?
[21:09] <agahnim> I'm be sure to remember your nick if anything else pop around!!! Thanks
[21:09] <arigold> where can I see the integrated ATI chip - to see if it was recognized?
[21:09] <agahnim> my first day VISTA FREE ahahahahahah what a grand day
[21:09] <lc2> agahnim: yay :)
[21:09] <arigold> yay!
[21:09] <lc2> arigold: an integrated chip will be detected the same as any other chip
[21:10] <arigold> lc2: so if lspci dows not show it, then it is not recognized, right?
[21:10] <arigold> dows=does
[21:10] <lc2> arigold: lspci *should* show it, integrated or not
[21:11] <arigold> ok, RageXL, it shows it!
[21:11] <lc2> arigold: there is no reason, under *any* circumstances, that any video card will not be found by lspci, even if it's not supported by the kernel itself
[21:12] <lc2> (or rather, the advanced features of such)
[21:13] <lc2> lspci does some very low-level system calls, it doesn't ask the kernel "hai, wut graphics card u haz", it queries various bits of hardware itself
[21:14] <lc2> (via the kernel, but it doesn't depend on the kernel supporting what's there)
[21:17] <lc2> but wat do i no lol
[21:17] <lc2> *uncomfortable silence*
[21:18]  * lc2 is still worried about abc1230 ;\
[21:22] <abc1230> Hey lc2, it fixed the problem. :)
[21:22] <abc1230> Thanks a lot
[21:22] <lc2> haha
[21:22] <lc2> 21:19  * lc2 is still worried about abc1230 ;\
[21:22] <lc2> 21:21 -!- abc1230 [n=admin@207-225-245-195.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #xubuntu
[21:22] <lc2> thanks, i won't lose sleep anymore ;D
[21:22] <abc1230> Sorry for the delay
[21:22] <lc2> arigold: no problem :D
[21:22] <lc2> oops
[21:22] <abc1230> The top and bottom bars decided to go invisible on me
[21:22] <lc2> abc1230: no problem
[21:22] <lc2> oh :D
[21:22] <lc2> are they back?
[21:22] <abc1230> Yup, I got it fixed
[21:23] <lc2> abc1230: okay well
[21:23] <lc2> abc1230: if you want more resolution than 1024x768 you can have it at a comfortable refresh rate
[21:23] <abc1230> I think I'm just going to keep it at this resolution. Thanks lots, though.
[21:24] <lc2> :D any time
[21:24] <abc1230> If I run into anymore problems, I'll come running back :P
[21:24] <lc2> look forward to seeing you! :D
[21:24] <abc1230> See you!
[21:24] <lc2> well, that's nice
[21:24] <lc2> :D
[21:26] <chris13> could someone help me find the commands to install the proprietary nVidia drivers from the command line?
[21:27] <chris13> I just installed 8.04 and when I log in the graphics are all messed up.
[21:27] <lc2> sec
[21:28] <lc2> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[21:28] <chris13> thanks
[21:29] <chris13> I'm going to go try that and see if it fixes the problem
[21:32] <chris13> one more question: If I'm in graphics mode what is the keyboard shortcut to switch to command line?
[21:33] <lc2> ctrl+alt+f1
[21:33] <lc2> f1 through to f6
[21:33] <lc2> alt+f7 to go back to X
[21:33] <lc2> i think, hold on
[21:33] <lc2> yes, ctrl+alt+f7
[21:34] <lc2> wait no, alt+f7 when you're in the console
[21:34] <lc2> forgive me
[21:34] <chris13> ok
[21:34] <chris13> thanks again
[21:34] <lc2> any time
[21:37] <agahnim> LOL I really need to get use to linux ... took 20 min to understand how to use a program like a IRC client
[21:37] <lc2> agahnim: it'll grow on you
[21:37] <agahnim> LC2 : I have another question for you ... do you know how to make rct lcd button ... I normally use fn + f4 but it aint doing anything
[21:38] <lc2> make rct lcd button?
[21:39] <agahnim> just learn that I should never close the terminal lol ... crashed the program!! sorry LC2 did you get my question
[21:39] <lc2> 21:38 < lc2> make rct lcd button?
[21:39] <lc2> i did, but i didn't understand it
[21:40] <agahnim> the combination of fn + F4 doesn't make my computer switch from my laptop screen to my TV
[21:40] <lc2> oh
[21:40] <lc2> haven't a clue
[21:42] <agahnim> okay ... I hope I'll be able to make this one work!!! so much better watching a movie on my tv screen compared to my laptop screen
[21:42] <chris13> well I tried to install the nvidia drivers by logging in using failsafe terminal
[21:42] <chris13> it downloaded them and then got to setting them up and then it crashed
[21:43] <chris13> I think autoconfig detected my monitor incorrectly
[21:43] <chris13> not sure how to change that
[21:43] <agahnim> so your stuck with the same problem ... if I understand right
[21:45] <chris13> yeah when I try to log on normally it starts to render the desktop but it has graphical artifacts and doesn't show any of the bars or the clock or anything and it appears to hang the system
[21:45] <chris13> it is like it starts to render the graphics ad then it dies
[21:45] <chris13> the keyboard shortcuts to get into a terminal aren't working either
[21:46] <agahnim> okay what laptop are you using I have a HP pavilion dv6000
[21:46] <chris13> I'm pretty much stuck with failsafe xterm right now
[21:46] <chris13> I have a desktop
[21:47] <chris13> I built it myself
[21:47] <chris13> I had similar problems with previous versions of this OS
[21:47] <agahnim> k
[21:47] <chris13> had to reconfigure xorg server or something like that
[21:47] <chris13> can't remember
[21:48] <chris13> basically I had to specify my monitor settings manually
[21:48] <agahnim> I'm looking on the forums and I can't seem to find anything on the subject ... cannot come back to vista caus I don't have CD anymore!!
[21:48] <agahnim> is their a way to send to command to the pc withought passing by the fn + f4 combination
[21:53] <chris13> even the failsafe xterm is failing :(
[21:54] <lc2> wait wat
[21:55] <chris13> it lets me type a command and then the redereing of the text messes up and it hangs
[21:56] <chris13> I think I need to do something like: dpkg-reconfigure xserver or something like that
[21:56] <chris13> is that the package name?
[21:57] <chris13> xserver or xorg or something
[21:58] <lc2> try them
[21:58] <chris13> I think it is xserver-xorg
[22:00] <lc2> possibly
[22:04] <agahnim> :( wish I could switch screen
[22:05] <chris13> hmm.. I finished going through the options and it only asked me about keyboard stuff this time
[22:05] <chris13> no graphics configuration settings
[22:05] <chris13> I need to get to the part where I can change my monitor settings
[22:06] <lc2> dunno
[22:06] <lc2> gonna go
[22:26] <chris13> anyone have any other ideas to fix my graphics?