2008/05/20/#ubuntu-installer.txt

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[09:40] <xivulon> evand, I hacked this simple script to migrate wubi installations to real partitions
[09:40] <xivulon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=wubi-move-to-partition
[09:40] <xivulon> it is intended as a proof of concept for the real ubiquity stuff
[09:41] <xivulon> but I thought it would be nice to show that in the UDS demo as well
[09:41] <xivulon> hence could you please test it?
[09:42] <xivulon> and if it is ok could you please setup the machine so that there are 2 available empty partitions (/ + swap) to migrate to?
[09:42] <xivulon> an existing swap partition can also be reused
[10:14] <evand> xivulon: I spoke with cjwatson about including that and we don't think there will be time in the 20 minute slot to cover that...
[10:15] <xivulon> certainly not in 20 min...
[10:15] <evand> We were thinking of running through an install in the background and while that's going talk about what's actually happening and then if there's a minute or two left over we can talk about  a bulleted feature list for the future
[10:15] <xivulon> evand, well test it anyway.
[10:16] <xivulon> sounds good
[10:16] <evand> if you'd like a second talk session, talk to cjwatson as he controls the schedule
[10:16] <evand> I will when I have free time.  I'm quite busy with UDS.
[10:16] <xivulon> I do not think that is necessary, my understanding is that there will be a session for migrating from wubi to partition via ubiquity
[10:16] <evand> correct
[10:17] <xivulon> we can show that up then maybe, and talk while the thingy runs
[10:17] <evand> if you haven't already seen it, the schedule is up at http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-intrepid
[10:17] <evand> there's also a #ubuntu-devel-summit channel
[10:18] <xivulon> thx
[10:18] <evand> you're welcome
[10:22] <xivulon> tomorrow there is a meeting USB installation images, as discussed a few days ago' it might be an option to add an entry to wubi so that it can also produce a bootable USB key/hd with ISO
[10:23] <xivulon> might want to mention that
[10:24] <xivulon> that of course only if a windows tool is desired in addition to the ubuntu script
[10:28] <xivulon> evand I can see the migration session on the 23rd but do not see the main wubi session
[10:30] <davmor2> xivulon: hello.  I forgot to say yesterday I added no code to the script I simply ran it after using gparted to change the empty partition to ext3 then it worked flawlessly :)
[10:30] <xivulon> only available slot seems to be 11am on the 23rd
[10:30] <xivulon> davmor2: I edited that anyway, just in case, thanks a lot for yesterday tests.
[10:31] <davmor2> no probs :)
[10:31] <xivulon> evand can we book that for wubi?
[10:34] <evand> what was the topic for the main wubi session again?
[10:34] <xivulon> the stuff I sent an email about a couple of weeks ago'
[10:35] <xivulon> all the features/changes + all kernel stuff
[10:35] <evand> right right
[10:35] <evand> cjwatson: ^
[10:35] <xivulon> as mentioned then I'd like ben or cking to attend
[10:35] <evand> Ben isn't here.  I think Colin King is.
[10:38] <xivulon> cking has been most helpful and has already looked into loop files and related amenities, it would be great to have him around
[10:39] <xivulon> bug #204133
[11:06] <cjwatson> please talk to jcastro rather than me about the talk schedule
[11:06] <cjwatson> xivulon: ^-
[11:06] <cjwatson> (if you decide you want to)
[11:07] <xivulon> cjwatson yes, will do, I think that a session for wubi would be needed
[11:07] <cjwatson> of course, that's why it's on the schedule :P
[11:08] <xivulon> cjwatson: is 23rd 11am good for you?
[11:08] <cjwatson> well, migration anyway
[11:08] <cjwatson> there is NO MORE ROOM on the platform schedule
[11:08] <cjwatson> http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-intrepid/
[11:09] <xivulon> 23 11am is empty as far as I can see
[11:09] <xivulon> or maybe we can extend the migration session slightly and make it a full wubi discussion
[11:09] <cjwatson> mm, there was a reason that didn't get filled up but I forget it
[11:10] <cjwatson> that would be better
[11:10] <xivulon> if it can book I'd say we can book the 11am session since it is before the migration session anyway
[11:11] <xivulon> if it is free we will use it, if there was something else to do we will squeeze everything into the migration session
[11:11] <cjwatson> ok, I'm not going to decide it now, I have a lot of demands
[11:11] <cjwatson> I can look at it on Thu evening
[11:11] <xivulon> sure
[11:11] <cjwatson> the platform schedule *was* actually full, I swear
[11:11] <cjwatson> there was actually something that couldn't fit in
[11:11] <cjwatson> somebody other than me must have moved it around
[11:12] <xivulon> ah well I'll reserve the slot then :)
[11:44] <xivulon> evand, cjwatson have created this wiki to help with the discussion https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiIntrepid
[11:44] <xivulon> I will attach it to a blueprint too
[11:45] <xivulon> evand, I have asked jcastro to allocate the 11am slot on #ubuntu-devel-summit, in case he misses that, can you please remind him?
[11:46] <cjwatson> err
[11:47] <cjwatson> no, please don't, my comment about jcastro was *only* about talks because I thought that's what weyou meant
[11:47] <cjwatson> jcastro is not permitted to mess around with the platform track
[11:47] <cjwatson> s/weyou/you/
[11:47] <xivulon> cjwatson, sorry I misunderstood then
[11:47] <cjwatson> I will remember your request and there's no need to ask anyone else to bypass me :)
[11:48] <xivulon> wan't my intention to bypass you :) did not get the meaning of your message above re jcastro
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[12:37] <xivulon> well I like the mockup of the partition selector in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiIntrepid I think it would imporve usability also for standard ubiquity
[12:38] <xivulon> Basically it only lists free space and empty partitions.
[12:39] <xivulon> Plus it has two buttons to free up space (resize partition and delete disk/partition)
[12:39] <xivulon> I think that splitting the tasks makes things much clearer
[12:46] <xivulon> So if disk 1 is in use, instead of "Install in disk 1" you will have to do "Delete disk 1" + "Use free space in disk 1"
[12:47] <xivulon> If disk 1 it can be used
[12:49] <xivulon> So it is impossible to mess things up, unless you press "Delete disk/partition" explicitly
[12:49] <xivulon> or use the manual mode
[13:00] <xivulon> evand consider ^ for ubiquity usability improvements (ubiquity visual refresh session)
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[20:03] <cjwatson> evand: do you have a ubiquity hardy branch anywhere? just noticing I have a bug or two that ought to go there
[20:03] <cjwatson> or is ubiquity 1.9.0 really going to be 1.8.8?
[20:07] <xivulon> evand would it be possible to have another go at releasing lupin 0.17?
[20:14] <xivulon> note that I fixed the typos in the hardy.proposed branch
[20:36] <CIA-1> apt-setup: cjwatson * r130 apt-setup/generators/50mirror.ubuntu: remove restricted a bit harder
[21:21] <CIA-1> apt-setup: cjwatson * r131 apt-setup/generators/50mirror.ubuntu: wrong sources.list
[21:27] <CIA-1> apt-setup: cjwatson * r132 apt-setup/debian/changelog: releasing version 1:0.31ubuntu8
[21:30] <CIA-1> base-installer: cjwatson * r327 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog library.sh):
[21:30] <CIA-1> base-installer: Don't include restricted in the base sources.list if
[21:30] <CIA-1> base-installer: apt-setup/restricted is preseeded to false (LP: #220805).
[21:35] <CIA-1> base-installer: cjwatson * r328 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.86ubuntu3
[21:37] <CIA-1> base-installer: cjwatson * r326 hardy-updates/ (debian/changelog library.sh):
[21:37] <CIA-1> base-installer: Don't include restricted in the base sources.list if
[21:37] <CIA-1> base-installer: apt-setup/restricted is preseeded to false (LP: #220805).
[21:39] <CIA-1> base-installer: cjwatson * r327 hardy-updates/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.86ubuntu2.1
[22:34] <evand> cjwatson: the latter, minus the unimportant bits