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=== MacSlow_ is now known as MacSlow [09:49] <huats> morning everyone [12:46] <crevette> hello [12:46] <crevette> salut huats [12:46] <crevette> salut seb128 [12:47] <crevette> ca va seb128 ? pas trop submergé ? [12:47] <crevette> j'ai utilisé f-spot hier et la trad est desastreuse [12:47] <crevette> j'ai pas regardé d'ou elle venait mais je pense que ca vient de launchpad, [12:48] <crevette> j'essayerai de corriger ca ce soir parce que c'est pas top [12:49] <seb128> lut crevette [12:50] <seb128> crevette: y a pas mal de bugs mais ca va ;-) [12:50] <seb128> crevette: et tout de suite à accuser launchpad, non ca vient d'upstream, http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529673 [12:51] <crevette> pas les pb de string not traduites mais des traductions approximatives [12:51] <crevette> j'avoue que j'ai pas chercher [12:52] <seb128> crevette: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/epiphany-browser/+pots/epiphany/fr/+translate?batch=10&show=changed_in_launchpad [12:52] <crevette> ah [12:52] <seb128> crevette: 0 strings changées sur launchpad [12:52] <crevette> on peut voir ca [12:52] <seb128> oui [12:53] <crevette> c'est epiphany :) [12:53] <crevette> apareil pour f-spot [12:54] <crevette> bon ca craint encore pire [12:54] <seb128> crevette: erreur de copié, collé ;-) [12:54] <seb128> ou de manip plutot [12:54] <crevette> desolé d'avoir accusé launchpad :) [12:54] <seb128> crevette: pourquoi ca crait plus, tu peux le corriger direct upstream non ? ;-) [12:55] <crevette> oui maintenant [12:55] <crevette> mais ca veut dire que ces trad ont sur pas mal de distro [12:55] <seb128> de toute façon vu que f-spot a une centaine de strings même pas translatable [12:58] <crevette> tu l''utilises pour gerer tes photos ? [13:00] <seb128> oui [13:03] <shan__> Could some one point me to documents on how to configure my broadcom 4306 wlan card on ubuntu 8.04? [13:05] <crevette> hello [13:06] <seb128> shan__: hi, that's not an user support chan, try #ubuntu [13:09] <shan__> ok thanks [13:12] <crevette> seb128, do you know who could I contact to have liberation fonts included in standard ubuntu ? [13:13] <Hobbsee> crevette: you can't. they're in multiverse. [13:13] <seb128> hey Hobbsee ;-) [13:13] <Hobbsee> hey seb128! [13:13] <crevette> Hobbsee, hello [13:13] <crevette> Hobbsee, licencing issue ? [13:13] * Hobbsee waves to crevette [13:13] <crevette> I thought it was solved [13:13] <Hobbsee> crevette: i presume so. i've not looked carefully [13:14] <crevette> Hobbsee, I advice you to try them [13:14] <Hobbsee> crevette: i'm using them now. [13:14] <crevette> their shape are very nice and professional [13:14] <Hobbsee> crevette: they're in multiverse for hardy release. [13:14] <crevette> Hobbsee, ah [13:14] <crevette> :à) [13:14] <crevette> Hobbsee, yeah I know [13:14] <Hobbsee> so, i presume it's not solved. [13:14] <Hobbsee> but i really don't know [13:18] <Hobbsee> crevette: i'm finally even liking the bold fonts. [13:18] <crevette> about liberation ? yeah bold is nice, not too bold [13:19] <crevette> it is the best font we had [13:19] <crevette> have [13:19] <huats> o/ crevette [13:20] <Hobbsee> hmm. now changed for irc. [13:20] <huats> hello Hobbsee too :) [13:20] <Hobbsee> huats: heya! [13:23] <crevette> Hobbsee, :) [13:23] <Hobbsee> man this looks weird. [13:23] <crevette> I use them everywhere === asac_ is now known as asac [14:09] <seb128> hey pedro_ [14:09] <pedro_> hello seb128 [14:10] <seb128> pedro_: don't freak out about the number of bug watch updates, I talked to the launchpad guys some days ago because I had the impression it was not working correctly and they fixed it now ;-) [14:10] <pedro_> thanks god [14:10] <pedro_> haha [14:10] <pedro_> thanks for let me know I was just starting to [14:10] <seb128> so that was a catchup run [14:10] <seb128> and it should be normal again [14:11] <seb128> and I spend the morning triaging those changes, so I recommend that you mark just all read or something [14:11] <pedro_> everything makes sense now [14:11] <pedro_> thanks you! [14:12] <seb128> you are welcome ;-) [15:54] <proppy> Hi, I've got some wierd theming issue (with gtk) [15:54] <proppy> I can't manage to set some GtkTreeView background [15:54] <proppy> only in Ubuntu [15:55] <proppy> http://proppy.aminche.com/rhythmbox.png [15:55] <proppy> gtkrc here [15:55] <proppy> http://pastebin.com/m6043c76c [15:55] <proppy> what it should be: http://benjamin.sipsolutions.net/tmp/rhythmbox.png [15:56] <proppy> could someone give it a try: by saving http://pastebin.com/m6043c76c to gtk-debug file and call GTK2_RC_FILES=gtk-debug /usr/X11R6/bin/rhythmbox [15:56] <proppy> ? [15:57] <proppy> It sounds like a gtk ubuntu bug, what do you think ? [15:58] <seb128> no it doesn't [15:58] <seb128> ubuntu has no rhythmbox nor gtk change that could create a such issue [15:59] <proppy> I reproduced in an hardy fresh vm btw [15:59] <proppy> +it [15:59] <seb128> seems to be an upstream bug [15:59] <proppy> rhythmbox or gtk ? [16:00] <seb128> I'm not sure that rhythmbox is using a standard GtkTreeView [16:00] <proppy> because I reproduced the same issue with evolution [16:00] <seb128> they might have a custom widget [16:00] <seb128> ok, gtk then [16:00] <proppy> http://proppy.aminche.com/evolution.png [16:00] <seb128> or a theme one [16:01] <proppy> debian unstable, as not this issue, nor gentoo [16:02] <proppy> seb128: do you have the same issue on your computer ? [16:03] <seb128> (I hate when people use $random_distro_works_differently as an argument) [16:03] <seb128> you most likely don't have the same configuration on this distros [16:03] <seb128> don't use the same gtk theme engine or something [16:04] <seb128> I don't know, I've no clue what is right or wrong [16:04] <proppy> seb128: this is not an argument, I just try to figure out where should I report the bug, and the submit a patch [16:04] <seb128> rhythmbox seems to be displayed correctly for me [16:04] <seb128> where, bugzilla.gnome.org [16:05] <proppy> I'm not implying at all that it is a distro issue, [16:05] <proppy> I'm implying that knowing it work on another distro, could help to figureout which version of the upstream is faulty [16:05] <seb128> we have gtk in almost sync on debian and no rhythmbox distro specific change which could create that [16:05] <seb128> debian unstable and hardy have the same gtk [16:05] <proppy> I uploaded the gtkrc to http://proppy.aminche.com/gtkrc-debug [16:06] <proppy> for convenience [16:06] <proppy> One could test with: wget http://proppy.aminche.com/gtkrc-debug [16:06] <proppy> and GTK2_RC_FILES=gtkrc-debug /usr/X11R6/bin/rhythmbox [16:07] <proppy> Can you confirm me that the left treeview as a blue background ? [16:08] <seb128> it hasn't [16:08] <proppy> that's the bug :) [16:08] <seb128> nothing has a blue background, only the selection and the search entry [16:08] <proppy> oh [16:09] <seb128> and it works if I switch to the clearlooks theme [16:09] <proppy> you don't have a blue background on the down treeview [16:09] <seb128> everything is blue [16:09] <seb128> left sidebar included [16:09] <proppy> http://proppy.aminche.com/rhythmbox.png [16:10] <seb128> again, what theme are you using? [16:10] <proppy> seb128: how do you switch to clearlooks theme ? [16:10] <seb128> system, preferences, appearance [16:10] <seb128> I clicked on clearlooks [16:11] <proppy> I thought that overriding GTK2_RC_FILES was a way to force the theme by application [16:12] <seb128> a theme is not only a gtkrc [16:13] <proppy> seems that the pb is with "Human" theme [16:13] <proppy> in conjonction with this gtkrc [16:13] <seb128> right [16:14] <proppy> Human theme is in gnome-themes ? [16:14] <seb128> no [16:14] <proppy> gnome-ubuntu-themes ? [16:14] <seb128> gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks [16:15] <proppy> so it might be an engine bug [16:15] <seb128> could be, but your gtkrc specify to use the pixmap engine [16:15] <proppy> yep, [16:15] <proppy> let's try without [16:16] <proppy> same issue [16:16] <seb128> it's due to the Human gtkrc [16:17] <proppy> wonder how gtkrc are prioritized when you override GTK2_RC_FILES [16:18] <proppy> seems that the theme one is applied "after" and then override the GTK2_RC_FILES one [16:19] <seb128> not sure, maybe the human gtkrc has extra nuances and your doesn't define enough things [16:19] <proppy> then it is not really a bug [16:21] <seb128> right [16:23] <seb128> you can look to the Human gtkrc [16:23] <proppy> yep looking [16:23] <seb128> it has a note about evolution and some other deprecated widgets using wrong color for listviews [16:23] <proppy> and trying to comment lines [16:23] <seb128> try to comment those [16:23] <proppy> to figure out which declaration override mine [16:24] <proppy> commenting #class "GtkWidget" style "clearlooks-default" [16:24] <proppy> made GtkTreeView blue [16:27] <proppy> it seems because of [16:27] <proppy> # GtkTreeView::odd_row_color = "#F5F2ED" [16:27] <proppy> # GtkTreeView::even_row_color = "#FAF9F7" [16:28] <seb128> it's easier a bug in gtk which doesn't use your definition over those, or your gtkrc which doesn't handle some cases where theme have extra definitions [16:28] <seb128> s/easier/either [16:29] <proppy> when I do provide these definition in my gtk-debug [16:29] <proppy> it works [16:29] <proppy> GtkTreeView ::odd_row_color = "#00ff00" [16:29] <proppy> GtkTreeView ::even_row_color = "#0000ff" [16:30] <proppy> so it's ain't a bug :) [16:30] <proppy> I just assumed wrongly that overriding bg/fg and base/text will override all theme color [16:30] <seb128> good ;-) [16:30] <proppy> seb128: thanks a lot for your help [16:31] <seb128> you are welcome [16:31] <proppy> seb128: I would not have been able to figure that out, without your guidance :) [16:44] <seb128> pedro_: why did you close bug #224198 as an user question? [16:46] <pedro_> seb128: works fine on two of my installations he's probably doing something wrong [16:47] <seb128> pedro_: works fine for me too, but we are frustrating some users with abusing this stock reply I think (I tend to do it too), we should use the one asked for exact steps, etc saying it works correctly on other installations [16:48] <pedro_> seb128: ok, will do it next time [16:48] <seb128> thanks ;-) [16:49] <proppy> back to my evolution theming bug [16:49] <pedro_> you're welcome ;-) [18:35] <proppy> see you later [18:35] <proppy> thanks seb128 === fta_ is now known as fta [20:20] <chains_> I feel obligated to mention that the new elvish sorceress 10*4 is too powerful against undead. [20:24] <chains_> wrong window of course :) [20:43] <Nafallo> quite :-) [22:17] <seb128_> re === seb128_ is now known as seb128 === ember_ is now known as ember |