2008/04/15/#kubuntu.txt

[00:04] <user1>  is there a very reliable download manager with excellent resume support?
[00:04] <maduser> apt
[00:05] <julie> hi
[00:05] <julie> !sources
[00:05] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[00:06] <julie> where is source o matic
[00:07] <Daisuke_Ido> user1, there's always downthemall
[00:07] <Daisuke_Ido> download manager extension for firefox
[00:07] <user1> downthemall is the ext for ff?
[00:08] <Daisuke_Ido> um...  yeah.
[00:09] <julie> !source-omatic
[00:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about source-omatic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:09] <user1> how to run adept from command line?
[00:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> user1, use apt-get or aptitude. adept is kde only
[00:09] <julie> can I have a list of compelete source for ubuntu
[00:09] <julie> please
[00:09] <Daisuke_Ido> !source-o-matic
[00:09] <ubotu> source-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.
[00:09] <user1> Kamping_Kaiser i know. i have kde. how to run it?
[00:10] <Daisuke_Ido> julie, and there you have your answer
[00:10] <Daisuke_Ido> system > adept manager.  why run from the command line?
[00:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> user1, tried `kdesu adept`?
[00:10] <user1> user1@computer1:~$ kdesu adept
[00:10] <user1> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 15 06:20:38 2008
[00:11] <julie> there is no application in K menu.. stupid ubotu, you think I would ask that question if I was using the latest version of kubuntu with that feature
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[00:14] <Azzco> I don't think that the bot has any inteligence, so of course it's stupid.. you wouldn't call your vacum cleaner smart would you? But what do you mean bu no applications in kmenu?
[00:14] <Azzco> by*
[00:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> user1, restart, or wait until that time is correct. your clock has been updated.
[00:16] <user1> k
[00:16] <julie> when is the release date for kubuntu 8.04?
[00:17] <julie> we are already in 04
[00:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> !hardy
[00:17] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[00:17] <Azzco> in 9 days
[00:17]  * Kamping_Kaiser pokes ubotu 
[00:22] <julie> where is a sources list for kubuntu please
[00:23] <Azzco>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:23] <julie> Azzco:  no the official source for kubuntu
[00:23] <julie> not where it is on my drive
[00:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> !sources.list
[00:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[00:27] <mart> hi , does anyone know any site that can help me use dual monitors?
[00:28] <julie> what stage of dual monitor setup are you at?
[00:28] <Azzco> mart, have you looked in system settings? If you're using a nvidia card you could try with nvidia-settings
[00:28] <julie> which card do you have ati or nividia
[00:28] <mart> nvidia
[00:28] <uppp> gi all
[00:28] <uppp> sorry
[00:29] <uppp> hi all
[00:29] <uppp> :)
[00:29] <mart> well actually i tried admin mode but the setting does not change +(
[00:29] <Azzco> mart, use nvidia-settings ;)
[00:30] <Azzco> You can launch it with Alt+F2 nvidia-settings, then go the X Server Display Configuration
[00:30] <mart> i dont have the driver for Kubuntu 7,1 atm...
[00:30] <Azzco> Do you know how to install them?
[00:30] <mart> yes
[00:30] <mart> it just wont let me
[00:30] <julie> mart: have you done any thing like this ? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dual-monitors-with-nvidia.html
[00:31] <julie> !sources
[00:31] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[00:31] <mart> yes where you change the xorg.conf.. but
[00:31] <Azzco> What's the matter with the install then? (Or you just want to use the open source nv driver?)
[00:31] <mart> thats the problem i dont want to use the open source driver
[00:31] <julie> has kubuntu or ubuntu setup automatic source changes during upgrades yet?
[00:32] <Azzco> julie: yes but any additionally added sources are commented out
[00:32] <julie> mart: have you read the how to on the binary drivers
[00:32] <mart> yes yes =) but not that well xD
[00:32] <Azzco> mart, where did the install fail for you?
[00:33] <mart> basically everything lol
[00:33] <Azzco> !nv
[00:33] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:33] <opusdeux> ubitu is a busy bot :)
[00:33] <opusdeux> ubotu
[00:33] <mart> maybe ill just try the beta version =)
[00:34] <Azzco> opusdeux: At least it is not a human being on the other end that is copy/pasting ;)
[00:34] <opusdeux> Azzco; or is it? :P
[00:34] <mart> is there a way that i can install the  latest driver via the terminal?
[00:35] <julie> mart: have you looked at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[00:35] <Azzco> mart, did you even check the binary driver howto?
[00:35] <Azzco> opusdeux: maybe it's mark? =o
[00:35] <Azzco> OT though ;)
[00:36] <mart> julie: done that with Ubuntu .. but actually running on a Kubuntu atm.
[00:36] <opusdeux> Azzco: lol
[00:36] <julie> mart:  that shouldn't make a diff , you must be dealing with xorg mainly not ubuntu
[00:36] <mart> Azzco: yes i did , maybe im just too tired to fiddle with my Kde
[00:37] <Azzco> mart, if you're just lazy you could check out envy ;)
[00:37] <mart> julie: yes yes but .. if i use the nvidia settings it doesnt save the changes on xorg.conf file
[00:37] <Azzco> mart, if you open it with kdesu/sudo you can
[00:38] <mart> Azzco: not being lazy, i could install envy at all lol
[00:38] <mart> Azzco: yes in gedit but not in nvidia settings... what if i wanted to change my setttings later on?
[00:39] <Azzco> mart, nvidia-settings can write the changes to the xorg.conf if it has access to the file, you can later edit it with a text editor if you'd like
[00:40] <mart> Azzco: hmm let me see if i can install Envy in Kubuntu
[00:40] <julie> this is why pclinuxos is better, shame i can't install it on my computer at the mo
[00:41] <uppp> julie there is a diference between ubuntu and kunbuntu?
[00:41] <Vincent> kubuntu uses KDE while ubuntu uses gnome
[00:41] <uppp> without graohical unverinment
[00:47] <mart> can i ask one more question?
[00:47] <mart> xD
[00:58] <julie> I keep getting the message could not verify the integrety of the upgrader program this application will now exit.. any help
[00:58] <julie> please
[00:59] <ek> Anyone know what file(s) I need to edit in order to have the standard kdm start on TTY7 and a different remote X terminal start on TTY8 or TTY9?
[00:59] <ek> There isn't an /etc/inittab or anything.
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[01:02] <phane> hello,can someone please tell me : is it possible to send files from yahoo messanger to a pidgin user ?
[01:05] <trevor__> If the pidgin user is upgraded to 2.4.1
[01:06] <trevor__> Up until that version, there is no real support for Yahoo File transfer after version 7...
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[01:10] <pagan0ne> can someone help me with a kppp issue, or point me in the right direction?
[01:10] <neosaki> thats awesome...apparently Amarok made duplicates of all my music >.>
[01:10] <dubby> ...
[01:12] <opusdeux> quiet all the sudden
[01:13] <pagan0ne> i created a new user account, and now kppp dials out, but hangs on "connecting to network"
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago> pagan0ne: what is the kppp issue?
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago> i have no idea
[01:13] <pagan0ne> Admiral_Chicago i think it may be a permission issue, but no idea on what file
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago> pagan0ne: your config file will be...
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago> i know it, sec
[01:14] <pagan0ne> i also suspect it may be a group permission, however i think if the user didnt have group permission it wouldnt even dial
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> pagan0ne: check your man pages of dpkg and apt, there is a command to list the files that it installs
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> your config file will be in /etc
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> for sure
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[01:15] <pagan0ne> Admiral_Chicago i know where the config file is, but not quite sure what could be wrong, it dials out fine as root
[01:16] <pagan0ne> Admiral_Chicago is there any way i can get apt or dpkg to reconfigure all permissions for files pertaning to kppp?
[01:16] <pagan0ne> (without having to redownload kppp?)
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> pagan0ne, what groups are you in? dialup?
[01:17] <pagan0ne> Kamping_Kaiser id check but the computer just went down and its 500 miles away on a dial up connection, idk for sure
[01:18] <pagan0ne> Kamping_Kaiser id check but the computer just went down and its 500 miles away on a dial up connection, idk for sure
[01:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> pagan0ne, :(
[01:18] <pagan0ne> Kamping_Kaiser sorry for the double post, ment to say, i would think if i wasnt in dial up kppp would just fail to pick up the modem...
[01:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> pagan0ne, depends how it 'picks up' the modem
[01:20] <pagan0ne> Kamping_Kaiser well it goes through all proper dialing, and hangs on connecting to network, do you think it would make it that far if i wasnt in the group?
[01:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> pagan0ne, i havent ever used dialup on *ubuntu
[01:22] <pagan0ne> Kamping_Kaiser your lucky you have broadband avalable... lol
[01:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> pagan0ne, yes, yes i am :)
[01:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> pagan0ne, where are you ?
[01:22] <pagan0ne> i have it here, but where the box it, its in DE in the middle of a farm
[01:23] <sponzor> when i install kubuntu will wifi and ethernet work?
[01:23] <pagan0ne> fiber, dsl, and cable all run within 2 miles of the house, but not to it
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> sponzor, depends on chipset
[01:23] <sponzor> ok
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> pagan0ne, :( that sucks
[01:24] <pagan0ne> spanther does it work on the livecd?
[01:24] <pagan0ne> err wrong person
[01:24] <pagan0ne> sponzor does it work on the livecd?
[01:25] <franx> hi there.
[01:25] <sponzor> yes
[01:25] <sponzor> but wifi no
[01:25] <sponzor> :P
[01:25] <franx> sup sponzor
[01:25] <franx> any apache buffs here?
[01:25] <pagan0ne> sponzor then chances are that it will work just like it does on the livecd, and with some tinkering you may even be able to get wifi working
[01:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> sponzor, what is the chipset?
[01:26] <franx> i have 1 ip address, multiple hosts. i want to use a different ssl key for each host. i this still impossible?
[01:26] <sponzor> on hardware that i have
[01:26] <sponzor> ?
[01:26] <franx> well ssl certificate rather
[01:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> franx, context ...?
[01:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> sponzor, yes, on the wireless
[01:27] <pagan0ne> sponzor yea what wifi chipset are you using?
[01:27] <franx> ok 1 ip address: 1.2.3.4, different virtual hosts: https://foo.com, https://foo1.com
[01:27] <franx> i want to use two different ssl certificates
[01:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> franx, so apache?
[01:27] <franx> yes
[01:28] <franx> i have read some old pages about the issue and it seemed to lean toward only 1 ssl cert per ip address
[01:28] <sponzor> inter pro wireless 3945abg
[01:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure, i think it could be abused into doing it. perhaps ask #apache
[01:28] <franx> hehehe
[01:28] <franx> abuse is good
[01:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> sponzor, i think its supported by some of the non-free packages in kubuntu
[01:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> dont quote me though :)
[01:28] <sponzor> ok
[01:29] <pagan0ne> im just curious, but how do you guys feel about the mint linux project?
[01:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> personally not a lot, but then i hang out in gNewSense/Gobuntu/Debian land, so its not my cup of tea
[01:31] <sponzor> what is with install... how to set up / swap etc...how many gb ? and ext3 do i use ore someting else?
[01:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> sponzor, defaults is usually ok (unless your dual booting or something special is needed)
[01:31] <sponzor> i m dual booting
[01:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> although having /home on a seperate partition is quite popular
[01:32]  * Kamping_Kaiser doesnt know the kubuntu installer well enough to help with that question
[01:32] <pagan0ne> Kamping_Kaiser yes yes it is, however dont try to install 8.04 with a seprate /boot partition
[01:32] <sponzor> do you have any link on howto separate partitions?
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> pagan0ne, why?
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> !install
[01:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[01:33] <pagan0ne> Kamping_Kaiser it fails to boot, it wont configure grub properly to load the kernel off /boot, it looks for it on /
[01:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> sponzor, check the first link. should explain stuff
[01:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> pagan0ne, what... an ugly bug.
[01:33] <pagan0ne> Kamping_Kaiser no a ugly bug is sudo, kdesudo, kdesu, and gksudo not working at all
[01:33] <sponzor> ok
[01:33] <pagan0ne> Kamping_Kaiser also a bug in 8.04
[01:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> pagan0ne, they can both be ugly ;)
[01:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats not a current bug is it?
[01:34] <pagan0ne> Kamping_Kaiser both are current in 8.04 beta
[01:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> pagan0ne, :|
[01:34] <pagan0ne> Kamping_Kaiser yeah i was shocked
[01:35] <pagan0ne> Kamping_Kaiser however with some shell hacking i manager to su in konsole and load gui apps using some DISPLAY hacking
[01:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> pagan0ne, kubuntu isnt exactly overloaded with devs, which i guess doestn help
[01:35] <pagan0ne> Kamping_Kaiser still havent figured out how to get grub to reconize its own /boot partition
[01:36] <sponzor> do i need /boot?
[01:36] <sponzor> :D
[01:37] <pagan0ne> sponzor no, no you dont
[01:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> sponzor, no, by the look of it
[01:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> which has to be the first time i've ever said that :|
[01:37] <sponzor> so the grub will install it self?
[01:37] <pagan0ne> sponzor well you need /boot just not on its own partition
[01:37] <sponzor> i yust need to be shure that i can stell go to windows
[01:38] <pagan0ne> sponzor i just like my /boot on its own partition for those times when i really fsck up, so i can be sure i havent killed my bootloader
[01:39] <sponzor> ok that is to leet for me
[01:39] <sponzor> )
[01:39] <sponzor> :)
[01:39] <Dr_willis> You have to be really good.. to mess up that bad!
[01:39] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> you have to be - *dramatic chord* pagan0ne !
[01:40] <pagan0ne> Dr_willis or just be messing with Vista's ntfs and stuff on the same drive as linux
[01:41] <pagan0ne> Dr_willis hehe i messed up my vista partition and then went to reformat it, and hit my / partition instead....
[01:41] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:41] <pagan0ne> luckly my /home was on a seprate drive
[01:41] <Dr_willis> I did a similer thing once during isntall.. due to the ide disk getting named 'sda'  and what USED tobe  my sata disk was now sdb....
[01:42] <Dr_willis> and i iddent notice that i had 2 sd## disks. :)
[01:42] <pagan0ne> although all my pr0n was in /root/docs for safe keeping :(
[01:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> Dr_willis, hehe. you should have been using UUID drives ;)
[01:42] <Dr_willis> Kamping_Kaiser,  this was during the INSTALLER
[01:42]  * Kamping_Kaiser hates UUID and scsi mode for IDE drives
[01:43] <pagan0ne> lol
[01:43] <Dr_willis> use all of sda.. yes... oops... :)
[01:43] <sponzor> so i use 8gb for / will that be enought? :P
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> Dr_willis, :|
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeah... not pretty!
[01:43] <Dr_willis> 'hmm where did i get 2 sd disks from? '
[01:43] <Dr_willis>  :)
[01:43] <pagan0ne> sponzor / will be where all your files and all of the os will be stored, linux will fit on 8gb but not alot of room left
[01:43]  * Kamping_Kaiser feels ouch for you
[01:44] <sponzor> so 15 then?
[01:44] <pagan0ne> sponzor how big is the hard drive, and what are you gonna be using linux for?
[01:44] <sponzor> kubuntu i will use it for destkop
[01:44] <sponzor> and it is 60gb
[01:45] <pagan0ne> and what will windows be used for? games?
[01:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> 8 is plenty for a strait desktop
[01:45]  * Kamping_Kaiser only has big drives to fit package mirrors
[01:45] <sponzor> cisco vpn client
[01:45] <sponzor> :P
[01:45] <pagan0ne> sponzor figure 5-8 Gb for just the OS then whatever space you may need for your music and misc files
[01:46] <sponzor> ok / is ext3 swap is swap and /home is vfat?
[01:46] <pagan0ne> sponzor why are you making a seprate /home? jw?
[01:46] <sponzor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> vfat? ewwwwwww
[01:47] <sponzor> :P
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> just no.
[01:47] <sponzor> ok
[01:47] <pagan0ne> sponzor make the /home ext3
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> you'll have a world of pain with anything that uses permissions (which is anything unix)
[01:47] <pagan0ne> preferably
[01:47]  * corporeal coughreisercough
[01:47] <NickPresta> pagan0ne, in the event that you need to reinstall your system or something similar, you don't need to touch your home folder, where all your docs/music/etc are stored. You can also increase the size if you need to easily
[01:47] <sponzor> ok can windows read ext3?
[01:48]  * Kamping_Kaiser shuts corporeal in the boot of the car and pushes it off a cliff
[01:48] <NickPresta> sponzor, not natively. There are applications which allows windows to read ext2/3
[01:48] <pagan0ne> NickPresta i know the reasons i would, i was wondering his
[01:48] <sponzor> sux
[01:48] <pagan0ne> sponzor which version of windows?
[01:48] <sponzor> xp
[01:48] <pagan0ne> all but vista will work with 3rd party drivers
[01:48] <NickPresta> sponzor, http://www.fs-driver.org/
[01:50] <NickPresta> sponzor, of course, I take no responsibility for fs-driver and what it may do to your EXT3 filesystem.
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[01:52] <Dr_willis> that fs-driver thing works with vista also
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[01:52] <sponzore> vista sux :D
[01:54] <pagan0ne> Dr_willis i refused to try it as i was just too scared what vista would wind up doing to my ext3 partition
[01:54] <pagan0ne> heh, Vista ate my fat32 partition w/o even askinf
[01:55] <pagan0ne> well, idk about you guys, but im gonna go drink some beer and play some rock band....
[01:55] <pagan0ne> thanks for the help everyone
[01:56] <NickPresta> pagan0ne, enjoy RB
[01:56] <pagan0ne> NickPresta oh, i will, dont fear the reaper!
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[01:59] <Daisuke_Ido> mmkmay, the lack of amarok 1.4.9 is starting to get to me :\
[02:00] <NickPresta> Daisuke_Ido, amazon cover problem?
[02:00] <will00> has anyone had any success runnin kubuntu on a c3 processor?
[02:02] <Daisuke_Ido> NickPresta, most certainly
[02:02] <NickPresta> Daisuke_Ido, I feel your pain. :(
[02:02] <Daisuke_Ido> tricking out my desktop right now...  got AWN working great...  though i need to find plugins for it
[02:02] <NickPresta> I added about 100 new artists (with >= 100 new albums) and there is no way I'm going to get all covers manually
[02:03] <Daisuke_Ido> got a script that will display the cover of the currently playing album.  but without covers... :\
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[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> and i have a separator in there that i cannot get rid of :\
[02:04] <NickPresta> heh. AFAIK, the fix is already complete and in 1.4.9.1, so it is just a matter of the repos being updated.
[02:04] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[02:04] <NickPresta> Hey, contrast83
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> alright, got rid of the ugly separator
[02:05] <contrast83> Could someone pastebin their /boot/grub/menu.lst for me? The "Install GRUB to the hard disk" step failed when I installed Kubuntu, so I need to add an entry for it to GRUB.
[02:06] <Daisuke_Ido> grub-setup i believe
[02:06] <contrast83> Daisuke_Ido: Was that to me?
[02:06] <NickPresta> Daisuke_Ido, you could compile from source using check install to create a deb and then when 1.4.9.1 comes out in the repos, it should update your compiled version.
[02:06] <Daisuke_Ido> wait...  that probably won't work if you can't get to it :\
[02:06] <will00> anyone had success with the embedded via processors?
[02:07] <contrast83> Well, I have GRUB working fine on my sidux install, but it just isn't picking up Kubuntu and adding it to the menu.lst.
[02:07] <NickPresta> contrast83, running `update-grub` should get it.
[02:07] <DreadKnight> contrast83: yes, right away
[02:08] <contrast83> NickPresta: No joy, but thanks anyway.
[02:09] <contrast83> DreadKnight: Thanks...
[02:11] <DreadKnight> contrast83: here it is: http://pasteall.org/514
[02:12] <DreadKnight> note that there are some variables for my native language
[02:12] <DreadKnight> ro
[02:13] <contrast83> DreadKnight: Not a problem, all I need is the kernel list... You're actually using all those kernels? o_O
[02:13] <DreadKnight> contrast83: erm.. nope
[02:14] <DreadKnight> contrast83: hmm, a lot of shit gathers up it seems
[02:14] <contrast83> DreadKnight: You might want to remove them. They're one of the biggest consumers of HD space. ;-)
[02:14] <DreadKnight> contrast83: sudo apt-get autoremove  got me rid of them a long time ago.. but i think they are only listed in the menu file
[02:15] <contrast83> DreadKnight: Well back when I was using Kubuntu a lot, I used Synaptic for getting rid of them. Gnome's package management apps pwn KDE's. :-\
[02:16] <DreadKnight> contrast83: hopefully there will be a great rewrite for adep (port actually to kde4)
[02:16] <DreadKnight> adept*
[02:18] <contrast83> Hopefully... I doubt they'd do something as dramatic as completely change the layout to match Synaptic's though.
[02:18] <DreadKnight> synaptic is more confusing then adept imo :-)
[02:19] <contrast83> Wow. You're the first person I've heard say that. :-)
[02:19]  * contrast83 toasts to the beauty of choice in Linux
[02:19] <DreadKnight> adept could be way better ... hmm..
[02:19] <DreadKnight> lol
[02:19] <contrast83> Well, I'm off to see if this worked. Thanks again... Peace.
[02:26] <dennister> hey channel...having a problem reformatting some old floppies here...I was getting suspicious about kfloppy and other floppy-related feedback from konsole, I was *always* being told there were formating erros when using kfloppy, and *always* being told of input/output errors when I tried the "dd if...of" comand in terminal
[02:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> dennister, throw the discs out yet? you should
[02:27] <dennister> Kamping_Kaiser: i threw out a lot...but i need one or two now
[02:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> dennister, unless you can replace the drive (which could be shot), its likely the discs
[02:29] <dennister> anyway, so I rebooted into my winblows drive did a comaprison: yes, many of the diskettes were unformatable, so i threw them out, but some were fine
[02:29] <dennister> now, those same "fine", newly formatted disks are still giving me the same kfloppy and konsole errors
[02:31] <dennister> somehow i *gulp* trust winblows' results more than gutsy's...perhaps i have a problem with my floppy drive configurations here in kubuntu
[02:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'd guess the drive is sus. but i do note that formatting a floppy wont magically heal it
=== bryan_ is now known as kelsa|martalli
[02:31] <dennister> Kamping_Kaiser: of course not, but formatting it will often tell me if there's a problem with its integrity
[02:32] <shardz> Where can I find the dialog/settings/whatever to change my screen settings (x.org, basically) in 8.04 beta? Should I just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand?
[02:32] <dennister> i need to save some bios files here, in preparation for fiddling around with bios' acpi settings so I can bloody well get kubuntu into this P4 machine
[02:33] <NickPresta> shardz, #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support
[02:33] <shardz> Well, it's the kubuntu kde4 remix, but okay.
[02:33] <NickPresta> shardz, you can also ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[02:34] <dennister> alternate install CD is constantly giving me probs...first NHI watchdog errors, then hangs at formatting drive for root...other problems I had earlier with alternateinstallcd are known bugs: refuses to install linux-kernal
[02:34] <VisciousPotato> if further support is required please go to the support forum  @ #support
[02:35] <dennister> i suspect its the acpi that's at the root of it all, so i want to disable it in the bios
[02:36] <dennister> (after savign it first) with the flash utility
[02:36] <Roey> VisciousPotato:  god, I love your nick :)
[02:36] <Roey> how creative :)
[02:37] <dennister> ahhhhh genii :) :) :)
[02:37] <dennister> lol...in and out
[02:38] <dennister> gene: :-)
[02:38] <dennister> oops
[02:38] <VisciousPotato> I am also known as Roby718, Roey
[02:38] <dennister> genii: :)
[02:38] <genii> dennister: Hi
[02:38]  * genii hands out a round of coffees
[02:38] <VisciousPotato> I ripped the potato idea off some jerky mod
[02:39] <VisciousPotato> if further support is required please go to the support forum  @ #support
[02:39] <dennister> genii: i'm having problems with acpi preventing another installation onto a P4 machine
[02:40] <dennister> genii: I was also thinking about you earlier today...need to sell some gold in those spare CPU's and shot mobos
[02:40] <dennister> do u remember that recycler who'd buy them?
[02:40] <genii> dennister: So you're finding acpi=off or noacpi neccesary for it to boot kernel properly, or so?
[02:40] <Roey> VisciousPotato:  ahhhhh! :)
[02:40] <Roey> hey Robby :)
[02:41] <dennister> genii: it boots, but then hangs/freezes...won't finish (or refuses to install the kernel)
[02:41] <VisciousPotato> Please refer to #support
[02:41] <genii> dennister: Well, the recycler we were going to before was paying $5 old hds, cases and mb I don't know
[02:42] <dennister> i just remember ken saying his eyes lit up cause of the precious metals, and those metals are in the cpu's and mobos...not so much the hdd
[02:42] <genii> dennister: Tried the alternate cd?
[02:43] <dennister> genii: that's what I've been focusing on all day...most of the probs i complain of are with the alternate cd
[02:43] <genii> dennister: I'll get the info where and who from Ken re: recycling, prices etc (he always dealt with them since driving, etc)
[02:43] <juani> hi
[02:44] <juani> i installed hardy beta
[02:44] <juani> and i konsole doesn't have autocompletion
[02:44] <dennister> first, at bootup, get the NHI watchdog error message...it continues to boot...goes along fine until *after the partitioning stage and I've done tons of work...freezes at 33% of formatting root's partition with ext3
[02:44] <genii> dennister: On the alternate cd if it does something like hang, you can find usually some info on why by looking at console 4 (alt-f4) where stdout is going, error msgs etc etc
[02:44] <juani> i installed bash-completion
[02:44] <juani> but this doesn't solve the problem
[02:45] <dennister> k...alt-f4...will remember that
[02:45] <genii> dennister: Maybe try ext2 since you can convert it after easily
[02:46] <dennister> i just want to get rid of acpi...not have it installed at all...i know how to disable it for the livecd session, but how to make sure it doesn't get installed during the system installation?
[02:47] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. apci is a kernel featre i thought. you disable it with the various boot options.
[02:47] <Dr_willis> You could set the defaults in the menu.lst file.
[02:47] <dennister> i'd really like to disable it in the bios, but...i should figure out how to make sure it doesn't get installed in my future kubuntu installs
[02:48] <dennister> Dr_willis: that's fine once you have it installed and a /boot section, but i'm not there yet...still trying to install and acpi is buggering me up...just won't let it happen
[02:48] <genii> dennister: on alternate I forget. On regular F6 then edit end of kernel line to add whatever options. After install before reboot you can just mount the / (or /boot if you have separate for that) under /mnt and then edit the /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst there to add whatever boot options the new kernel should use.
[02:49] <GS3User> hi
[02:49] <genii> dennister: Disable any acpi in bios and kernel options should not be needed
[02:50] <GS3User> i was recently juggling around with opendns, and now i cannot samba between my boxes, even though both of them can connect to the 'net still. Any ideas?
[02:50] <dennister> genii: yes, on regular live i use the same method...F6...noapic...but i need to know how to do this with alternatecd, and make sure it doesn't get installed in the hdd installation
[02:52] <dennister> disabling acpi in bios is what i was intending to do...but i want to save bios first with aflaash utility...but kfloppy is buggering me up without the ability to use *any* of my floppy disks...always give me errors...came into the channel to do
[02:52] <free1> how can I save the contents of the crash dump file?
[02:53] <dennister> some troubleshooting of the floppy functions in this working pc...i actually trust *gulp* winblows's results re floppies better than kubuntu's at this point
[02:54] <dennister> .I was getting suspicious about kfloppy and other floppy-related feedback from konsole, I was *always* being told there were formating erros when using kfloppy, and *always* being told of input/output errors when I tried the "dd if...of" comand in terminal
[02:54] <dennister> so I rebooted into my winblows drive did a comaprison: yes, many of the diskettes were unformatable, so i threw them out, but some were fine
[02:55] <terettes15> whats a program that can convert music files into mp3's
[02:55] <dennister>  now, those same "fine", newly formatted disks are still giving me the same kfloppy and konsole errors
[02:55] <corporeal> terettes15: mencoder, lame, etc.
[02:56] <dennister> genii: Dr_willis: do u both see the depth of my problems now? lol
[02:56] <terettes15> thank you
[02:56] <genii> dennister: After googling around, F6 in alternate seems same method to manually insert kernel options
[02:57] <dennister> and those inserted options will hold true not only for the temporary-wtih-cd installation, but also after the reboot?
[02:58] <dennister> thos inserted options will be carried forward into the installed kernel?
[02:58] <dennister> (if the kernel actually installs this time)
[02:59] <genii> dennister: No, for that you need to use the method I just earlier described, of editing the to-be /boot/grub/menu.lst and manually inserting it before rebooting when install completes.
[03:00] <genii> dennister: The F6 is to insert the option into the kernel the installer uses for it's own
[03:00] <julie> how do I find out howmany hdds there are and how do I mount them form the command line
[03:01] <genii> julie: sudo disk -l                should list them all, mounted or otherwise. For the manpage of how to use the mount command from console,: man mount
[03:01] <dennister> genii: ok...am an old hand at editing grub by now :)
[03:01] <dennister> bbs
[03:02]  * Jucato inserts and 'f' in genii's instructions
[03:02] <Jucato> julie: "sudo fdisk -l"
[03:02] <Jucato> (small letter L)
[03:02] <genii> Jucato: Nice catch :)
[03:03] <Jucato> you're lucky I just had my first dose of sugar rush today :P
[03:04] <genii> Jucato: Had a 14 hour workday, massive flood there. So somewhat tired :)
[03:04] <Jucato> understandable
[03:05] <julie> is there a program gui out there that allows me to esily mount
[03:06] <adz21c> julie: kde3 has a devices applet, so any known devices it can mount with a couple of clicks
[03:06] <adz21c> julie: eg cds and usb keys etc
[03:06] <Dr_willis> work time for me. bye all
[03:07] <free1> leave the good doctor be
[03:08] <free1> in the mean time what's really good with saving a crash dump file
[03:08] <free1> ?
[03:10] <GS3User> julie: try the system settings
[03:10] <genii> free1: I believe lcrash and perhaps dumputils may be what you are looking for
[03:11] <free1> genii: I will look into that.  I thank you very much.
[03:11] <genii> free1: np
[03:11] <spanther2> genii may i ask what is your work? :)
[03:12] <Jucato> handing out coffee to #kubuntu helpers
[03:12]  * Jucato runs and hides
[03:12] <genii> spanther2: I have a few jobs :) The one currently causing grief is caretaker/elevator operator/property manager of an old office bldg with about 30 offices.
[03:13] <spanther2> ah okay so you're administrator? :)
[03:13] <spanther2> oh lol wait
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[03:14] <genii> spanther2: My other jobs: 2 in same bldg mentioned: 1 vounteer/sometimes paid admin of a community-based ISP, 2 Net admin of a closed network linux file/web/groupware servers mixed win/mac clients            My last job is another place where I supervise an adults art dropin centre and also administer to the network there
[03:15] <genii> But I grow ot ;)
[03:15] <spanther> you have a cool job then :x
[03:15] <genii> spanther: Yes, mostly it rocks but when it sucks it realy really sucks
[03:15] <dennister> genii: with alternate, i tried f6+install acpi=off; hung again at 33% of partitioning root with ext3...went out to have a cig...still hung
[03:16] <genii> dennister: do the alt-f4 then and see what error msgs it may be spewing out (if any). You can switch back with alt-f1   or gain busybox prompt by alt-f2 or alt-f3
[03:16] <dennister> oh shoot...forgot that one
[03:17] <spanther> uh i've seen super mario on linux once do you know where i can get this game from? :)
[03:19] <genii> spanther: You might be thinking of a sort-of mario clone called smc. But it may also be something run under MAME, or even actual Mario Bros running under psemu (or similar)
[03:20] <spanther> http://www.holarse-linuxgaming.de/h2006/space/Super+Mario+Clone+FX/960-5.jpg  here :)
[03:21] <genii> spanther: Thats smc, the first one I mentioned above. It's in the repos
[03:21] <genii> !info smc
[03:21] <ubotu> smc (source: smc): a Jump and Run game like Super Mario World written in C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.6-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 523 kB, installed size 1404 kB
[03:22] <spanther> okay may you say me the package name? :)
[03:22] <genii> eg
[03:22] <spanther> just smc?
[03:22] <genii> spanther: Yes
[03:24] <genii> spanther: As indicated above you need universe repository enabled in Adept (or whatever package manager you like)
[03:24] <spanther> i have hehe
[03:24] <spanther> well i work with apt-get :)
[03:25] <sparr_> I have two repos.  One with high default priority, the other with higher priority for one package.  That package has dependencies only met in the second repo.  How can I get the dependencies from the second repo instead of an error that the versions in the first repo are not new enough?
[03:27] <dennister> genii: ok.../var/log/syslog tells me acpi was found, seems ok...was a fd error, but nothing's in it, so i think that's ok...
[03:28] <dennister> real problem seems to be with the hdd...was an errno 16 right at the end before the hang, then errno2
[03:28] <spanther> genii, i've installed smc but i cant find smc in "games" menu :(
[03:28] <genii> spanther: I don't play it so don't know where it may be started from
[03:28] <genii> 1 minute to google ::::)
[03:28] <genii> bleh typos
[03:29] <spanther> lolol multiple eyes like a spider xD
[03:29] <dennister> dwidmann: was going to talk to u some more 'bout the terminal client project...u gonna hang around a bit?
[03:29] <dennister> still need some advice on that front as part of my research project
[03:30] <spanther> genii, aaaw this boy out of SMC looks much cuter than super mario itself ^.^ more anime like i love this game i think :D
[03:31] <genii> spanther: You got it to run then?
[03:32] <spanther> genii, yes terminal and then smc as command :)
[03:32] <genii> spanther: Ah, good
[03:32] <spanther> it has such a cute world and character design ^^
[03:33] <dennister> genii: since the problem seems to be with the drive itself...i'm gonna try some stuff with it to see if I can rescue it, or whether it needs to be chucked
[03:33] <genii> dennister: Sounds like a plan
[03:33] <dennister> bbl
[03:33] <dwidmann> Hmm, a couple of my VTs have gone unresponsive (just sitting there with a blinking underscore in the upper left), how can I get them back to a login prompt?
[03:35] <dwidmann> (They didn't succesffuly get back to that after I told them to exit a little bit ago)
[03:37] <spanther> thank you for this game genii :)
[03:40] <genii> spanther: Well I didn't write it :)
[03:40] <Jucato> heh
[03:40] <spanther> but you showed it to me ^^
[03:43] <GS3User> i was recently juggling around with opendns, and now i cannot samba between my boxes, even though both of them can connect to the 'net still. Any ideas?
[03:44] <dthacker> GS3User: can box A ping box B by name?
[03:45] <GS3User> dthacker: no
[03:45] <GS3User> dthacker: nor by LAN ip
[03:45] <dwidmann> GS3User: can too
[03:46] <dwidmann> GS3User: that or my LAN just feels like defying you :P
[03:46] <dthacker> GS3User: what kind of common device do these boxes connect to?
[03:46] <dthacker> (router, switch, etc?)
[03:46] <GS3User> dthacker: linksys router
[03:46] <julie> hi is there anything better then automatix
[03:46] <julie> !automatix
[03:46] <ubotu> Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[03:47] <dwidmann> Hmm, and "ping www.google.com" worked too
[03:47]  * dthacker ponders the connection between dwidmann and GS3User
[03:47] <GS3User> dwidmann: yes, pinging google still works on both boxes :P
[03:48] <julie> is there anything similar to automatix/
[03:48] <dwidmann> julie: why not just use adept?
[03:48] <dthacker> julie: what are you trying to accomplish
[03:48] <julie> julie: something similar to pxlinuxos
[03:48] <dthacker> GS3User: what is the address of box a,  and the address of the router?
[03:49] <Jucato> !automatix
[03:49] <ubotu> Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[03:49] <dthacker> julie: could you be more specific?  what are you missing?
[03:49] <GS3User> dthacker: one box is 192.138.0.100, the other is 192.168.0.20, what exactly do you mean by the address of the router? my IP to the internet, or the default gateway?
[03:50] <julie> ubuntu that comes with java falsh ff wine adobe preinstalled
[03:50] <genii> Windows doesn't come with those things preinstalled, why should ubuntu?
[03:50] <dthacker> GS3: I'm looking for the internal (gateway) address
[03:51] <dthacker> !medibuntu
[03:51] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[03:52] <julie> ubotu: why do pclinuxos do it  ?
[03:52] <dthacker> GS3user: I just got a phone call and have to leave.  Both of your boxes must be able to ping the router by ip address before you worry about DNS troubles, so get that going first.
[03:53] <dthacker> bbl....
[03:53] <Jucato> !restricted
[03:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:53] <GS3User> dthacker: k, thanks
[03:53] <Jucato> julie: read the first and 3rd links ^^^^^
[03:53] <Jucato> (because pclinuxos is practically a windows clone...
[03:54] <julie> read it before no good
[03:55] <dwidmann> !bot | julie
[03:56] <genii> julie: The simple answer is because these things (flash, java, adobe reader, etc) are owned by the companies which made them and so not open source applications. They must be installed conciously by the user so that the disclaimers must be acknowledged and so on.
[03:56] <damien_> Hi, I need help
[03:56] <dwidmann> damien_: oh, hi again
[03:56] <damien_> Hi >_>
[03:57] <julie> genii: and why isn't this the case with pclinuxos
[03:57] <damien_> Whenever I restart my computer, it says GRUB Loading, then it says GRUB Error 17
[03:57] <damien_> And I reinstall kubuntu
[03:57] <Jucato> julie: to make it very short: The stuff you want to be installed by default (probably except for Java) have legal and/or moral/ethical  grounds not to be shipped by default. Ubuntu doesn't aim to be just another Linux distro that unconscientiously ships these. They have a commitment to adhere and promote Free Software as well as Open Standards and Formats
[03:57] <damien_> It worked last time, but now I can only get into this mode, which is sort of like Windows Recovery mode
[03:57] <damien_> Like, everything is big
[03:57] <genii> julie: Perhaps ask them in their channel :) Ask about ubuntu here
[03:57] <dwidmann> damien_: grub error 17 isn't any fun at all, I forget which one that is though ... grub has quite a few errors it can throw at you (the 17 kind of tips you off on that though)
[03:58] <damien_> Any idea on how to fix it? :/
[03:58] <dwidmann> damien_: can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:58] <damien_> Sure
[03:58] <damien_> Everything is so big right now it sucks
[03:58] <damien_> Last time it did this, I was able to go into regular kubuntu
[03:58] <dwidmann> damien_: type exit, then type "startx" to get to a gui :)
[03:59] <Jucato> julie: for the simple fact that Ubuntu is not PCLinuxOS and PCLinuxOS is not Ubuntu. Ubuntu is on the same boat as Debian and Fedora in their stance on proprietary formats and codecs
[03:59] <dwidmann> damien_: well, probably have to login before typing startx
[03:59] <damien_> I'm in a GUI, but it's really big and weird
[03:59] <julie> everything in the world comes down to just because we said so
[03:59] <dwidmann> damien_: bad res, probably
[03:59] <damien_> It is
[03:59] <damien_> It's like 800x600
[04:00] <genii> julie: We can tell you here the reasons things happen in Ubuntu and Kubuntu. If you want to know why things hapen the way they do in pclinuxos, you need to ask them, we don't have those answers here for you.
[04:00] <damien_> dwidmann: Here's that pastebin: http://pastebin.org/29869
[04:00] <dwidmann> I'm gui-less until I can get these packages installed again (reinstalled with command-line only last night, taking me some time to get rolling again)
[04:00] <Jucato> genii: you're talking to air
[04:00] <genii> Jucato: I just saw
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> when i was your age, 800x600 was unheard of!  we had 320x200, and we LIKED it.
[04:00] <dwidmann> jucato, genii: There are probably medifications available for that
[04:01] <genii> hehe
[04:01] <Jucato> genii: both literally and figuratively (the message is just "passing through" julie...)
[04:01] <damien_> Ugh this sucks
[04:01] <damien_> Fix it quickly :P
[04:02] <Daisuke_Ido> hold on there pardner, linux is the DIY OS, not the GSETDIFY OS!
[04:02] <dwidmann> damien_: am looking now
[04:02] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: When I was your age, colour was unheard of! We had green monochrome TTL displays with 40 characters across and we LOVED it!
[04:02] <damien_> Alright
[04:02] <dwidmann> Is there any way I can get irssi to ignore join/nick events?
[04:02] <damien_> Are you talking to me? O_o
[04:02] <Daisuke_Ido> genii, my first computer was a CoCo, so... i'm still a whippersnapper
[04:03] <genii> damien_: Not directly :)
[04:03] <damien_> Can't even change the resolution :/
[04:03] <damien_> Oh ok
[04:04] <damien_> I don't understand why I couldn't enter regular kubuntu like I could last time this happened
[04:04] <damien_> :/
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[04:04] <dwidmann> damien_: that link isn't liking me for some reason
[04:04] <dwidmann> damien_: I go there but I'm not seeing any text :\
[04:05] <damien_> Hm hold on
[04:05] <damien_> !paste
[04:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:05] <damien_> dwidmann: try this one
[04:06] <damien_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63244/
[04:06] <dwidmann> damien_: (I'm kind of stuck using elinks until I get a gui back up, which should be shortly, I think it's installing the packages now)
[04:06] <damien_> Ah
[04:07] <dwidmann> damien_: okay this is better, one sec
[04:07] <damien_> Ok
[04:07] <damien_> I wouldn't have restarted if my internet wasn't going slow :/ God damn restarting.
[04:10] <damien_> I think I've found a fix for it
[04:10] <damien_> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html#17
[04:12] <dwidmann> damien_: that was really strange, I don't see a difference between the recovery lines and the regular line besides the quiet line, and it's ro quiet splash instead of ro single, try pressing 'e' for edit at the grub menu for the regular option, drop down the "quiet line" and press 'd' to delete it, go to the kernel line and press 'e' to edit, at the end remove "splash" and "quiet", press enter, press 'b' to boot and see if it will work norm
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[04:13] <Potato>  #²
[04:13] <damien_> What do you mean the grub menu?
[04:13] <damien_> Where it tells me I have an error, or where I choose my OS
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[04:13] <joeyadams> Where you choose your OS
[04:13] <dwidmann> damien_: the boot menu that it shows when you start up, it lets you pick between ubuntu, ubuntu (recovery), and other things if present
[04:13] <damien_> Okay
[04:14] <Roy_Muzz> Hi, my ubuntu machine has the following strange open port "5001/tcp open  commplex-link". Does anyone knwo how to track down the application that is opening this port?
[04:14] <damien_> Need to write this all down :P
[04:15] <dwidmann> damien_: this is a one shot deal, we can make it perm if it works
[04:15] <dwidmann> damien_: that way you wouldn't have to do it all the time (that can be very tedious, trust me, I know ... sometimes I get too lazy to fix things and end up doing them all the time until I finally get sick of it)
[04:16] <damien_> Okay
[04:16] <damien_> Are the lines labeled?
[04:16] <damien_> Like you say kernel line, does it actually say kernel or something?
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[04:18] <genii> Roy_Muzz: Something called slingbox uses 5001
[04:18] <damien_> dwidmann: are the lines labeled?
[04:19] <dwidmann> damien: no, I was just going by what they started with
[04:19] <dwidmann> damien: brb, I've got X up and running and I'm going to switch over from irssi to Konversation
[04:23] <dwidmann> wheeeee, gui-ness
[04:23] <dwidmann> ughhhhhhh, my touchpad is soooooo slow right now
[04:25] <Knoll> #²
[04:26] <neville_> How can I find out what is using my sound hardware?
[04:27] <dthacker> Roy_Muzz: netstat -anp | grep 5001
[04:28] <damien_> dwidmann: Are you still here?
[04:28] <dwidmann> damien_: you betcha
[04:28] <damien_> dwidmann: Okay, uh, I deleted the quiet line, but I couldn't figure out how to delete splash and quiet on the other
[04:29] <damien_> dwidmann: So it didn't do anything :/
[04:29] <dwidmann> neville_: probably something like fuser /dev/dsp, I can't remember exactly though
[04:29] <dwidmann> damien_: you press 'e' to edit the line that starts with "kernel" , hold the right arrow key until you're over to splash and quiet, and just backspace over them
[04:29] <damien_> Oh okay
[04:29] <damien_> Time to try it again
[04:29] <dwidmann> damien_: kay
[04:30] <dthacker> neville_: fuser /dev/lsp
[04:31] <dthacker> oops
[04:31] <neville_> "Cannot stat /dev/lsp: No such file or directory"
[04:31] <dthacker> neville_: sorry, make that sudo fuser /dev/(your sound device)
[04:32] <neville_> no output at all, not even errors
[04:32] <damien__> dwidmann: Hm
[04:32] <damien__> dwidmann: It still booted into recovery mode
[04:32] <dwidmann> damien__: I doubt that.
[04:33] <damien__> dwidmann: It did :|
[04:33] <dwidmann> damien__: rshouldn't have, should have given you a rather ugly startup though
[04:33] <damien__> It did
[04:33] <damien__> But everything is still large
[04:34] <RobotGuy> Is there a good communications app for KDE?
[04:34] <damien__> And everything is gone :|
[04:34] <RobotGuy> As in serial communications.
[04:34] <dwidmann> damien__: did it give you a "root" prompt or a regular one? (that's the main difference between recovery and regular)
[04:34] <steve__> what is the php executable directory for kubuntu? for ktorrent web administration
[04:34] <damien__> dwidmann: I have no idea
[04:35] <damien__> dwidmann: After I finished editing I pressed b, and it booted me into this
[04:35] <dwidmann> damien__: it's starting to sound like your X config is probably messed up if you're getting a 800x600 or less resolution.
[04:35] <steve__> its not working with every thing ive tried that has php in the name
[04:35] <dwidmann> damien__: did you have to do anything "extra" to get into a gui?
[04:35] <damien__> great :|
[04:35] <damien__> Nope
[04:36] <dwidmann> damien__: then it definitely wasn't recovery mode, in which you usually have to at least type "startx" to get into a gui. But you didn't get grub error 17, so we should probably make that change permanent right?
[04:37] <damien__> Yeah
[04:37] <dwidmann> damien__: kdesudo /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:37] <damien__> But I'd like to get my old files and resolution back :|
[04:37] <dwidmann> damien__: (you can do that from run command (ie; k -> run command or alt+f2)
[04:37] <genii> robotgeek: Like using a modem or like being a terminal emulator?
[04:38] <damien__> sudo: /boot/grub/menu.lst: command not found
[04:38] <dthacker> neville_: what did you use for your sound device?
[04:38] <dwidmann> ah crud
[04:39] <dwidmann> damien__: meant kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:39] <neville_>  /dev/dsp
[04:39] <dwidmann> damien: (I do that all the time)
[04:39] <damien__> :P
[04:39] <dennister> genii: still having probs with alternate, this time with a hdd that I know has 0 probs 'cuz I had isntalled ubuntu-server on it b4 without a hitch...this time it froze at 77% of installing base packages, and altf4 told me there was a problem with the locale
[04:40] <damien__> dwidmann: okay, kate opened. Now what?
[04:40] <genii> dennister: On first install use default en_US locale. After install switch to en_CA
[04:40] <dwidmann> damien__: go down towards the bottom of the file, you'll notice a group of "paragraph sized"-ish areas with stuff similar to what you edited in the grub menu to boot
[04:40] <dennister> k, will do
[04:41] <damien__> dwidmann: okay, found it
[04:41] <dwidmann> damien__: come to think of it, we can do one better, just a sec
[04:41] <damien__> ok
[04:41] <dennister> dwidmann: want to talk to you about terminal client project in #off-topic in a little while...ur helping others now and i want to try another stab at this problematic installation
[04:42] <dennister> bbs
[04:43] <dwidmann> damien__: use ctrl+f to find "defoptions", it should have a "quiet splash" after the =. remove them, and save the file.
[04:43] <dthacker> neville_: what error message are you getting?
[04:43] <dthacker> my google foo is failing me....
[04:43] <damien__> dwidmann: okay, done
[04:43] <neville_> No error message, it just goes straight back to prompt
[04:43] <dwidmann> damien__: now pull up Konsole, and type "sudo update-grub"
[04:44] <dthacker> neville_: what are you trying to run?
[04:44] <neville_> sudo fuser /dev/dsp
[04:44] <neville_> brb
[04:44] <dthacker> neville_: ok
[04:44] <damien__> Okay, it updated
[04:45] <dwidmann> damien__: after that, pull up the menu.lst file in kate again and look near the bottom at your default boot option, and check that "quiet" and "splash" were removed from the kernel line
[04:45] <genii> Battery dying, need sleep. Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow
[04:46] <damien__> dwidmann: yep they were
[04:46] <dwidmann> Since when do coffe-holics sleep? Silly genii :P
[04:46] <dwidmann> damien__: that should be perm then, now on to problem #2
[04:46] <dwidmann> damien__: do you know what graphics card you have?
[04:46] <dthacker> bye genii
[04:47] <damien__> It's an onboard one
[04:47] <damien__> GeForce 6600 I think
[04:47] <neville_> Ok, nevermind, when vmware was closed, it was still lingering around, causing havoc
[04:47] <neville_> killing it freed up sound
[04:47] <dwidmann> damien__: okay, lets try something, pull up konsole, and type this -------- sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[04:48] <damien__> Also, my grub menu had 4 options before this, now it only has 3
[04:48] <dwidmann> damien__: what was the fourth option?
[04:48] <dthacker> neville_: ok.  I still don't have a good answer for you.  I tried those commands I got from googling while amarok was plaiying and I got no output at all.
[04:48] <damien__> The one I always used
[04:48] <damien__> It said Kubunut, instead of Ubuntu like the ones that are there now
[04:48] <damien__> kubuntu*
[04:49] <chris123> greets
[04:49] <damien__> It finished getting those files.
[04:49] <dthacker> kubunut, what a great name for a distro, or a coffee
[04:49] <damien__> lol
[04:49] <dwidmann> dthacker: I'd try it :D
[04:49] <chris123> anyone here familar with bluetooth and GPS setup
[04:50] <neville_> It's okay dthacker =]
[04:50] <damien__> dthacker: does this text show up as red on your screen? >_>
[04:50] <neville_> thanks for trying regardless
[04:51] <dthacker> damien__: no, it's just highlighted because you used my name
[04:51] <damien__> dthacker: oh okay
[04:51] <chris123> any notes anywhere that I can read up on that are not outdated?
[04:51] <dthacker> chris123: forum?
[04:52] <dthacker> !GPS
[04:52] <ubotu> Street mapping and GPS navigation software available for Ubuntu includes !GpsDrive (GTK, raster maps, free), !Roadnav (GTK, free vector maps from Tiger and OSM, free), !GoogleEarth (Qt, proprietary vector maps, proprietary)
[04:52] <dthacker> !bluetooth
[04:52] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:53] <dwidmann> !tab | damien
[04:53] <ubotu> damien: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[04:53] <chris123> yup read those sometime it connects, other time kbluetooth stuff seems to get in the way and bind the socket rfcomm0
[04:53] <damien__> dwidmann: so do you know what's wrong yet?
[04:54] <chris123> trying to figure out how to make this connetion reliable for gpsd useage
[04:54] <chris123> thanks will go through the instruction one more time..:)
[04:54] <chris123> ciao
[04:54] <dthacker> chris123: if you've seen those, then I'd ask in the forums, ask on launchpad, or if you think you've got a bug, filee
[04:54] <dwidmann> damien, look up several messages, I think what I said that you missed might be useful to you
[04:54] <dthacker> that on launchpad
[04:55] <damien__> dwidmann: the !tab thing?
[04:55] <dwidmann> damien__: further up
[04:55] <damien__> dwidmann: yeah I did that, it got those drivers
[04:55] <dwidmann> damien__: after a reboot you should have both working  boot and a usable X res then.
[04:56] <damien__> Will I have my files back? If not I'm going to need help installing pidgin again :|
[04:56] <dwidmann> damien__: sudo apt-get install pidgin
[04:56] <damien__> oh ok
[04:56] <damien__> alright rebooting
[04:57] <corporeal> mmmmm pidgin
[04:57] <corporeal> or you could be smart and install Ubuntu first, then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop over it
[04:57] <corporeal> :-p
[04:57] <corporeal> thats what i do
[04:57] <dthacker> ewwww, icky gnome
[04:58] <Jucato> huh what? smarter to install Ubuntu first and then kubuntu-desktop just to get pidgin?
[04:59]  * dthacker needs to go do some work. bye for now......
[04:59] <damien_> dwidmann: thanks it worked! Is there no way to get my files back though?
[04:59] <dwidmann> damien_: what files were you missing?
[05:00] <damien_> All of my music files, my pidgin, firefox, a few other apps I downloaded
[05:00] <dwidmann> damien_: when and how did they go about disappearing?
[05:00] <damien_> Just after the grub error
[05:01] <dwidmann> damien_: pastebin your /etc/mtab
[05:01] <dwidmann> damien_: I wonder if your /home partition, if seperate, isn't mouting ....
[05:01] <dwidmann> *mounting
[05:02] <damien_> !paste
[05:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:02] <damien_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63248/
[05:05] <dwidmann> damien_: hmm, if you do have a seperate /home, it's not mounting, when you were installing did you set it up to use a seperate /home?
[05:05] <damien_> No, I set it up to use all of the HDD
[05:05] <dennister> man o man...i have done sooooo many installations by now, and never have I seen so many problems :-(
[05:06] <damien_> You shoulda been here yesterday
[05:06] <dwidmann> damien_: seperate home is usually better, but if you had the root partition take up the whole hdd, I don't know where the files are
[05:06] <damien_> It took 2 hours to help me set up another HDD
[05:06] <damien_> Oh okay
[05:06] <damien_> I'll just redownload the music etc
[05:07] <dwidmann> damien_: on second though, check /lost+found
[05:07] <damien_> To get firefox, I would do sudo apt-get install firefox?
[05:07] <dwidmann> damien_: sure
[05:07] <damien_> "Could not enter folder /lost+found
[05:07] <dwidmann> damien_: you could also use adept (k-menu -> system -> adept manager)
[05:08] <dwidmann> damien_: you'll need to use sudo, so might as well "sudo -s" first
[05:08] <damien_> I'd prefer command line, I need to get used to it
[05:08] <damien_> Oh
[05:08] <dennister> tried using the us locale, there were still probs, but it continued; immediately after that I had the same old issue about no kernel being available, but I could continue without one (only for experts but I've compiled many kernels in gentoo), and that option sends me in an endless loop...n it couldn't find
[05:09] <dennister> lord, oh lord.....
[05:09] <damien_> Hm
[05:09] <damien_> I did sudo -s and I still cant access that folder
[05:09] <dennister> dwidmann is being very helpful today
[05:09] <dwidmann> damien_: permission died, or does not exist?
[05:10] <damien_> Could not enter
[05:10] <damien_> That's it
[05:10] <dwidmann> dennister: I try ...
[05:10] <dwidmann> damien_: hmmmmm
[05:11] <dennister> yes, i know :) am waiting for when ur not helpiing someone...in between my many attempts to get this bugger installed
[05:11] <dennister> bbs
[05:11] <dwidmann> damien_: does it say "root@hostname#" at the beginning of the line?
[05:11] <damien_> Yes
[05:11] <dwidmann> dennister: that problem sounded really, really whack to me, it couldn't find a kernel?
[05:12] <dwidmann> damien_: hmm, I know that directory is kept "under lock and key" so to speak, I don't see why root wouldn't be able to enter it though, try typing "ls -l /lost+found"
[05:13] <damien_> total 0
[05:13] <dwidmann> damien_: well that rules that out
[05:13] <damien_> I knew I should've copied my music to my 150gb :|
[05:14] <dwidmann> damien_: and that's why I always have at least 3 backups if not 4 of all of my stuff ...
[05:14] <damien_> Wow O_o
[05:14] <damien_> Adept installer takes so long to update packages
[05:15] <garcmarc> Hi just a quick question someone here try to run zimbra server over kubuntu 7 ?
[05:15] <dwidmann> damien_: well, more like two really, but still, that's a min
[05:15] <damien_> Heh
[05:16] <dwidmann> damien_: three-four during upgrades and other situations where data could be at risk
[05:16] <damien_> Wow that's a lot O_O
[05:17] <dwidmann> damien_: I've had a few partitioning travesties before that I would really like to avoid having happen again.
[05:17] <damien_> Heh
[05:18] <dwidmann> damien_: that and the time my one raid corrupted, that was entertaining
[05:18] <damien_> :/
[05:18] <damien_> I'm going to buy a 500gb external HDD just for backups :|
[05:19] <damien_> My internet is going so slow :|
[05:20] <dennister> well, it's installing again.......we'll see...(this time I gave up on alternate, went with regular)
[05:20] <dwidmann> damien_: might be cheaper to buy a 500gb internal, and an enclosure for it, and make it external yourself
[05:21] <damien_> Maybe
[05:21] <damien_> But theres a shop near me selling a 500gb for $75
[05:21] <dwidmann> dennister: did you try checking the disks for errors? disks with errors can make the thing get really crazy
[05:21] <dennister> damien_: he's right...the markup is huge, for very little expertise
[05:21] <dwidmann> damien_: wow, not bad
[05:21] <damien_> Yeah I know
[05:22] <damien_> This is totally off topic, but does anyone have a demonoid invite?
[05:22] <dennister> dwidmann: yes i did...i blamed the cd's first...took a brand new cdrw, burned it and checked integrity...that was the alternate I'd been trying with all day
[05:22] <jords> damien_: I have a demonoid account... want one?
[05:22] <damien_> Yeah
[05:23] <jords> ok I'll private message one give me a moment :D
[05:23] <damien_> My email is stultusapparatus@gmail.com
[05:23] <damien_> Or that
[05:23] <dennister> demonoid is barring canadians :(
[05:23] <jords> still?
[05:23] <damien_> :/
[05:23] <jords> they are'nt in canada anymore
[05:23] <jords> so what's the point
[05:24] <dennister> don't know about "still" haven't checked lately...
[05:24] <damien_> Ever since demonoid re opened my sister has filled two of her 350(maybe 400?)gb HDDs with anime and other stuff
[05:24] <damien_> But some she got from before that
[05:24] <damien_> But her torrenting is killing my torrenting
[05:24] <hydrogen> !topic
[05:24] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[05:24] <hydrogen> get on it
[05:24] <hydrogen> or get out
[05:24] <hydrogen> thank you!
[05:24] <dennister> dwidmann: can we chat about terminal clients and other distros in #off-topic?
[05:25]  * dwidmann would avoid using his email address in irc if he were damien, these channels are logged and google indexes these logs
[05:25] <damien_> Great -_-
[05:25] <dwidmann> dennister, sure, how about #kubuntu-offtopic?
[05:25] <dennister> k
[05:25] <jords> damien_: ouch. we have a 20gb a month limit here in NZ, and that's one of the bigger plans
[05:25] <hydrogen> if you arn't using a spam filter it's pretty much your own fault :/
[05:25] <damien_> jords: That scks
[05:25] <damien_> I'm using gmails spam filter >_>
[05:26] <dennister> <-----is waiting for dwidman in suggested channel
[05:26] <damien_> jords: I can't private message you because I'm not registered :/
[05:26] <jords> ah
[05:26] <dwidmann> erm, #kubuntu-offtopic ----- no ? mark at the end, sorry, I hate the way it does that sometimes
[05:27] <dwidmann> !register | damien_
[05:27] <ubotu> damien_: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[05:28] <damien_> So how do I register it?
[05:28] <jords> read the link
[05:28] <dwidmann> /msg nickserv help
[05:28] <dwidmann> and read the link too, of course
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[05:33] <LaVitaBella> Hello can somebody help me please where can i find the IRC logs of kopete?
[05:34] <xoqa> LaVitaBella: they should be in your home folder
[05:35] <xoqa> in particular, ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs
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[05:43] <merkeke> why wont it let me install firefox?
[05:43] <stdin> I don't know, why not?
[05:44] <merkeke> i dont know when i go to add remove prog everything is greyd out
[05:44] <stdin> were you asked for your password?
[05:44] <im-a-n00b> hey all, does kde4 work with compiz?
[05:45] <stdin> im-a-n00b: you mean "does compiz work with kde4", and compiz will work with anything, it's a just a window manager
[05:45] <stdin> it still has bugs though, so don't expect perfection
[05:46] <im-a-n00b> stdin: ok.. phew.. fears are laid to rest.. when hardy comes out im going to try kde4. i was hoping compiz would work cause i find some of its features cool and effective (and like showing off at work amongst the winxp boxes)
[05:47] <stdin> im-a-n00b: you know kde4's default window manager (kwin) has some cool effects of its own now too
[05:48] <Jucato> and imho more useful effects too :)
[05:48] <im-a-n00b> stdin: ive read about that.. they seem ok.. but from most things ive read.. im not sure they stak up against compiz... although i will be trying them too :)
[05:49] <stdin> compiz has more effects, but I find what kwin provides is plenty for me
[05:49] <Jucato> compiz has more effects but less stability/scalability and less KDE integration. think of Compiz as being built purely with special effects in mind
[05:50] <Jucato> KWin, on the other hand, was built to be a proper and powerful window manager first, and the effects were just added on top of it later
[05:51] <im-a-n00b> lol.. i just like the effect at work.. when they come up and say "thats vista??!!!" and i get to say "no, its linux, vista never looked this good
[05:51] <Jucato> (not dissing Compiz though... it paved a lot in the way of compositing effects in *nix)
[05:51] <Jucato> well vista doesn't have the cube either (because they don't have virtual desktops...)
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[05:52] <Jucato> the thing is, I don't think you can use Compiz without the effects. I mean, if you only had compiz and didn't have the hardware for it, it won't work. KWin adjusts to the resources available
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[05:53] <im-a-n00b> Jucato: orthe cylinder, or just about everything else lol
[05:53] <Jucato> right :)
[05:53] <Kestrel> I just installed Kubuntu, and the System settings is different from what I'm used to in KDE
[05:53] <im-a-n00b> Jucato: i did install the kde4 alpha on a 700 mhz 128mb ram machine
[05:53] <Kestrel> How to I make it so I double click on icons rather than single click
[05:54] <Jucato> kwin has this nice (or annoying, take your pic) effect that switches windows with Alt+Tab like CoverFlow in iTunes/Mac OS X
[05:54] <Jucato> Kestrel: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse
[05:54] <im-a-n00b> Kestrel: are you thining of the kcontrol settings manager
[05:54] <Kestrel> Jucato: thanks
[05:54] <Kestrel> im-a-n00b: if that's what's normal used, then yes
[05:54] <Jucato> Kestrel: just FYI, you can still use kcontrol in KDE 3. but might as well get used to System Settings, because KDE 4 doesn't have kcontrol anymore, only system settings (taken from Kubuntu)
[05:55] <Jucato> (but very much improved)
[05:55] <Kestrel> I wasn't attached, but I just didn't know where it was.
[05:55] <Kestrel> I might as well ask this now, how do I enable the super key in this one
[05:56] <Kestrel> I barely remember how to do that in kcontrol
[05:57] <Jucato> what do you mean? Use the Win/Meta key to launch the K Menu?
[05:58] <Kestrel> well that, but I remember when I installed compiz-fusion on Mandriva, I couldn't use the Metakey for anything until I changed something.
[05:58] <Kestrel> It might not be the case, but I haven't even attempted compiz fusion yet
[05:59] <Jucato> nah. Mandriva does that by default. it sets Win key *only* to launch the K Menu. iirc that prevents the Win key from being used in other combinations
[05:59] <Jucato> it's only Mandriva that does that afaik. here, you can use the Meta key in combinations
[05:59] <stdin> it'd be an X.Org setting if anything
[06:00] <Jucato> of course.. any key must be an x.org setting :P
[06:00] <Kestrel> I had the same problem in Fedora, so it's not only mandriva, but I'll hopefully not have the problem with this one :)
[06:00] <Jucato> Kestrel: you can always check if your Win key is read by KDE as such by trying to change/make some shortcuts in System Settings -> Keyboard &  Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[06:01] <Kestrel> It appears to work there then.
[06:01] <Kestrel> Well I'd like to say I'll be back, but that problably is admitting a problem before it happens. :p
[06:01]  * Jucato can't recall Fedora KDE doing something like that in F7
[06:01] <Kestrel> Odd question before I go, do you know if mIRC and Nonamescript work under Wine?
[06:21] <dimath> Hi there
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[06:21] <dwidmann> hiiii
[06:22] <Dimath> Anybody tried ubuntu 8?
[06:27] <dwidmann> Dimath: 8.04
[06:27] <dwidmann> Dimath: lots of people are.
[06:37] <Ketrel> I just installed Kubuntu, and I then started the upgrades, it errored when installing, and then recommended I upgrade my distribution. Apparantly it's been at 0% of upgrading me from 7.10 to 7.10
[06:37] <Kr|ptiX> how to i unrar a password protected .rar file
[06:37] <Kr|ptiX> do i*
[06:38] <Jucato> Kr|ptiX: in the command line, "unrar x filename.rar" in the directory where the file is
[06:38] <Ketrel> I'm reinstalling, but what should I do if it does it again?
[06:39] <Kr|ptiX> jucato that did do nttn
[06:40] <Jucato> hm...
[06:40] <Kr|ptiX> didnt?*
[06:45] <Kr|ptiX> wat does WARNING: You need to start extraction from a previous volume to unpack mean
[06:46] <Jucato> Kr|ptiX: it means that the file was split into multiple .rar archives and that you are unrar'ing the wrong (not the first) archive
[06:46] <needhelp> any daemon, scripts or tools which can automatically upload via ftp a folder's content whenever there is a changes in filesize?
[06:50] <leo_rockw> hello everyone
[06:51] <leo_rockw> this channel is so quiet compared to #ubuntu. we kde people are smarter and we don't need help :-P
[06:51] <Ketrel> true
[06:52] <Ketrel> but I'm just being polite until notices my question :p
[06:52] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: do you have a question?
[06:52] <neville_> Isn't it a given, though, that if you use Gnome, you clearly have problems? :P
[06:53] <leo_rockw> neville_: haha, true
[06:53] <Ketrel> I asked it before you got here, so I'll repeat :)
[06:53] <Ketrel> I just installed Kubuntu, and I then started the upgrades, it errored when installing, and then recommended I upgrade my distribution. Apparantly it's been at 0% of upgrading me from 7.10 to 7.10
[06:53] <Ketrel> I'm reinstalling, but what should I do if it does it again?
[06:53] <needhelp> first of all, do you have an internet connection connected to that computer?
[06:53] <Ketrel> me? I do, but it's reinstalling (55%)
[06:54] <needhelp> because at the end of installation it will check for update and upgrades via internet
[06:54] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: was your internet connection working from the live cd?
[06:54] <Ketrel> it was working from both
[06:54] <needhelp> if internet is not working, then it may have error
[06:54] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: how did you start the upgrades?
[06:54] <Ketrel> After it downloaded all the updates, it then errored when installing them.
[06:54] <needhelp> oo
[06:54] <Ketrel> Then it changed to a button saying to upgrade my distribution
[06:55] <Ketrel> I was using 7.10 and it then told me I would be upgrading to 7.10
[06:55] <needhelp> upgrading from 7.10 to 7.10? hmm
[06:55] <Ketrel> and kinda stayed at 0% of installing (after fetching) for about a half hour
[06:55] <JoshOvki> thats a good trick
[06:55] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: how did upgrade? from the command line?
[06:55] <Ketrel> no
[06:55] <Ketrel> the GUI
[06:56] <needhelp> so you haven't manage to finish installing your kubuntu and boot in yet?
[06:56] <Ketrel> I did the first time
[06:56] <Ketrel> but I've read about what can happen when inturrupting a dist upgrade
[06:57] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: i never use adept, i don't know how good/bad it is
[06:57] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: try using the command line next time, just in case
[06:57] <Ketrel> What command line would I use for kubuntu?
[06:57] <JoshOvki> you should only not disrupt an upgrade when the packages are installing after the download stage
[06:57] <Ketrel> JoshOvki (that's where I did kill it)
[06:57] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:57] <needhelp> sudo apt-get upgrade -y; sudo apt-get update -y; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[06:57] <Ketrel> ok, so apt.
[06:58] <leo_rockw> needhelp: yeah, the -y is a good idea :-D
[06:58] <needhelp> probably take 1 hour haha
[06:58] <Ketrel> what's the -y
[06:58] <leo_rockw> needhelp: i should add that to my alias
[06:58] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: assume yes
[06:58] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: it won't ask for confirmation
[06:58] <Ketrel> ah
[06:58] <needhelp> -y means answering yes to every question automatically
[06:59] <Ketrel> Is there any point to using dis-upgrade when I'm already using 7.10?
[06:59] <Ketrel> *dist-upgrade
[06:59] <needhelp> Ketrel: you may want to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list .. may want to comment out the cd rom or something..
[06:59] <JoshOvki> Ketrel: yes, or usualy there will be some updates held back
[07:00] <needhelp> whenver you edit /etc/apt/sources.list , do a apt-get update
[07:01] <krazywolf> Hello
[07:02] <krazywolf> I need some help if anyone can help me otu please
[07:02] <JoshOvki> krazywolf: we dont know unless you tell us whats wrong ;)
[07:02] <needhelp> !help
[07:02] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:02] <krazywolf> I just installed wubi
[07:02] <krazywolf> going kubuntu
[07:02] <krazywolf> when i boot into kubuntu for the first time
[07:02] <krazywolf> i get some command line
[07:03] <krazywolf> "BusyBox V1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5 ubuntu12) Built-in Shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands (initramfs)_ "
[07:03] <krazywolf> and the cursor just blinks waiting for a command?
[07:03] <krazywolf> I did wubi > kubuntu-kde
[07:04] <Ketrel> well it's nearing the end of the install
[07:04] <krazywolf> so what do i do after i get that prompt?
[07:04] <Ketrel> I'm slightly hesitent to use the commandline only because I'm worried that I might forget and not use it one day when the system has been in use longer and a problem migth occur that I could've caught by not doing it with the GUI now.
[07:04] <merkeke> how do u install aim on this
[07:05] <merkeke> i just came to kubuntu from windows vista so im lost
[07:05] <krazywolf> Okay.. so what do i do?
[07:05] <leo_rockw> merkeke: kopete
[07:05] <merkeke> im using kopete right now. i just would like the aim if thats possible?
[07:06] <JoshOvki> krazywolf: try typing      kdm    into the command line
[07:06] <leo_rockw> merkeke: that's your new aim
[07:06] <Jucato> merkeke: Kopete can connect to multiple IM's, including AIM, Yahoo, MSN, Google Talk, etc.
[07:06] <Ketrel> merkeke, if you don't like kopete, you might also try Pidgin
[07:06] <merkeke> how good is pidgin?
[07:06] <Jucato> just add a new Account in Kopete and fill up the information about your AIM account
[07:06] <trevor__> Ketrel: Didn't AOL put out a linux client?
[07:06] <merkeke> yeah
[07:07] <Ketrel> very good merkeke, I use it on Widows as well, AOL might have a linux client, but I switched to Pidgin after trying it for bit.
[07:07] <Ketrel> JoshOvki or needhelp, do you know if having the nvidia drivers active could interfere with the update?
[07:07] <krazywolf> What is the difference between kubuntu-kde and kubuntu?
[07:07] <merkeke> how do u install anything on this
[07:07] <Jucato> merkeke: K Menu -> Add/Remove Programs
[07:07] <trevor__> I use pidgin, but that's cause it's multi-protocol, and it works with GoogleTalk
[07:07] <needhelp> Ketrel: erm not that i have experienced.. the thing with command line apt-get is that you know what is happening when there is some errors
[07:07] <Jucato> Kopete does as well
[07:08] <needhelp> Ketrel: try it, then you can paste to us the problem
[07:08] <trevor__> If you're using Kubuntu, I recomend Kopete, because it integrates into the desktop better...
[07:08] <JoshOvki> Ketrel: i have never seen heard of that, and havnt seen it because i dont use nvidea graphics chips
[07:08] <Ketrel> merkeke, one thing about Linux that's slightly confusing for Windows people. Add + Remove programs is actually used to ADD in Linux.
[07:08] <needhelp> fresh installation of kubuntu's kopete may have a bug...:P
[07:08] <Ketrel> Unlike windows where it's almost only used to remove.
[07:08] <JoshOvki> krazywolf: there isnt much of a difference, just the way extra programs are installed around it i belive
[07:09] <krazywolf> so i should just go kubuntu?
[07:09] <merkeke> yeah i got kubuntu ... i was going to choose the new gOS to see how that is
[07:09] <dwidmann> Ketrel: hahaha, too true
[07:09] <needhelp> kubuntu = kde + ubuntu .. which is same as kunbutu kde? haha
[07:09] <JoshOvki> krazywolf: yeh, why not ;)
[07:10] <merkeke> i installed the pidgin package but its not loading...is their anything else i need to do?
[07:10] <needhelp> anyone know how to fix the trackpad for macbook under kubuntu? i can't left click..had been stuck for weeks even after googling
[07:11] <krazywolf> how do drivers work under kubuntu?
[07:12] <krazywolf> or how about games?
[07:12] <krazywolf> do games not work on linux?
[07:12] <jussio1> !games
[07:12] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[07:12] <JoshOvki> krazywolf: some games do, some games dont is the usual thing
[07:12] <jussio1> krazywolf: drivers for what?
[07:12] <needhelp> krazywolf: i tried playing warcraft3 frozen throne in kubuntu, using wine .. well it works
[07:12] <JoshOvki> jussio1: i screwed up my install :)
[07:12] <needhelp> but quite complicated to set up
[07:12] <dwidmann> krazywolf: remember, Kubuntu is not windows :)
[07:13] <needhelp> !wine
[07:13] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[07:13] <krazywolf> jussi01, network card, nvidia drivers, motherboard drivers etc
[07:13] <jussio1> krazywolf: most are built in, shouldnt need any, except the nvidia ones
[07:13] <needhelp> merkeke: try K button-->Internet--> Pidgin ?
[07:13] <jussio1> !nvidia | krazywolf
[07:13] <ubotu> krazywolf: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:14] <Ketrel> Does matrox even still make consumer cards?
[07:14] <krazywolf> so whats teh big deal about linux if you gotyta do all this extra stuff to do one thing?
[07:14] <dwidmann> krazywolf: unless you're running *bleeding* edge hardware in which case you might have issues, maybe.
[07:14] <needhelp> its free
[07:14] <Ketrel> krazywolf the problem isn't linux, it's that the makers of the devices don't support it like they do windows
[07:14] <merkeke> needhelp: i do that it wants to load (hour glass) then it just closes
[07:15] <merkeke> is their something i have to do in root now?
[07:15] <needhelp> *shrug*.., let me try to install..haven't use it before
[07:15] <merkeke> lol
[07:15] <merkeke> im so confused
[07:15] <dwidmann> krazywolf: if you had compatible hardware you would have to do very little if anything at all to make things work, which is always quite nice.
[07:15] <merkeke> using windows since 95, going to linux...not a easy transition
[07:15] <needhelp> merkeke: how did u install pidgin?
[07:16] <dwidmann> merkeke: try running it from konsole
[07:16] <krazywolf> merkeke, me too
[07:16] <krazywolf> I'm trying to go linux to see what the hype is about
[07:16] <krazywolf> but it sounds like too much work
[07:16] <krazywolf> don't know waht the great advatnages are?
[07:16] <krazywolf> if you have to know all these fancy commands and tricks and tweaks and stuff to just go about normal use
[07:16] <Ketrel> krazywolf, once you get it working, it's almost 0% chance of breaking
[07:16] <jussio1> krazywolf: no virus's, secure, easy install stuff from the repositories
[07:17] <dwidmann> krazywolf: flexible, powerful, low maintenance, fast
[07:17] <needhelp> krazywolf: erm..lesser (almost 0) viruses..free softwares..almost fulfil every needs..flexible
[07:17] <dwidmann> ....very customizable
[07:17] <JoshOvki> krazywolf: there is plenty of support for it
[07:18] <krazywolf> sounds complicated
[07:18] <leo_rockw> krazywolf: you don't __have__ to know all the crazy commands. but you'll find out in due time that the console is the greatest tool out there
[07:18] <needhelp> my company is using kubuntu for their work..i'm having a good time maintaining the OS..there is almost no need to go down to their station as there are no problems at all
[07:18] <krazywolf> Maybe i should leave thid wubi thing for a while
[07:18] <krazywolf> until i get the hang of it
[07:18] <krazywolf> and than do a full linux system
[07:18] <krazywolf> instead of dual boot
[07:18] <jussio1> krazywolf: most things you can do through the gui. remember, Linux is _different_ but not necissarily _harder_
[07:19] <jussio1> !enter | krazywolf
[07:19] <ubotu> krazywolf: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:20] <Ketrel> oh damn, I should sent the output to a file
[07:20] <Ketrel> can konsole save the screen to a file?
[07:21] <needhelp> Ketrel: highlight the text at the console.. then press RIGHT and LEFT mouse button together on a text editor eg: kate or kwriter
[07:21] <needhelp> Ketrel: run kate or kwriter at K button-->Run command
[07:22] <Ketrel> ok thanks :) (just in case there's any errors to report)
[07:22] <needhelp> i like the easy cut and paste.. highlight to copy, and right+left click to paste
[07:22] <krazywolf> Alright
[07:22] <krazywolf> so if that command comes up again
[07:23] <krazywolf> Sorry, i forgot botu the one line thing, anyways so if that command comes up again, what is teh command i should do?
[07:23] <needhelp> krazywolf: you mean after u run wubi, you end up in a busybox? i think it shouldn't be the case although i never used wubi before...
[07:24] <krazywolf> needhelp, that was my case though, i got that busybox command prompt thing
[07:24] <needhelp> krazywolf: but you did see a boot loader to choose between ubuntu and windows right?
[07:24] <krazywolf> yes
[07:24] <krazywolf> and i selected ubuntu
[07:25] <krazywolf> and the little logo thing
[07:25] <Ketrel> I'd assume if you reboot, you'll be given the choice again
[07:25] <needhelp> krazywolf: i think you should reinstall the wubi again? you shouldn't end up on busybox..hmm
[07:25] <krazywolf> damn it, im sorry i keep pressing enter, but ya it gives me the choice, than i go ubuntu and i get the logo with the little bar going left to right and than it goes black with a cursor that just flashses for a little and than i get that busybox
[07:26] <krazywolf> Was it because i installed kubuntu-kde?
[07:26] <needhelp> what you mean you installed kubuntu-kde? from wubi?
[07:26] <krazywolf> yes
[07:27] <needhelp> oh
[07:28] <needhelp> hey, while you in busybox
[07:28] <needhelp> can u do a cat /casper.log ?
[07:28] <krazywolf> don't know what that is
[07:28] <krazywolf> this is my first time seeing linux
[07:28] <needhelp> i read from wubiguide it says wubi does not support software raid 0 (fakeraid)..you have to install into a partition outside of the raid array..pure hardware raid should be ok
[07:29] <krazywolf> I don't have raid?
[07:29] <leo_rockw> krazywolf: did you try a livecd before?
[07:29] <krazywolf> No, only wubi
[07:29] <leo_rockw> in my opinion a livecd is better than wubi.
[07:29] <krazywolf> I downloaded kubuntu off their website and it gave me an iso image, but i just don't want to do a clean install with linux when i don't know how to do it
[07:29] <JohnFlux_> can anyone recommened a usb1.1  webcam for linux?
[07:30] <leo_rockw> krazywolf: you don't need to install anything
[07:30] <krazywolf> I just want to be exposed to linux before i make the final switch
[07:30] <JohnFlux_> I want the best possible usb1.1 webcam that will work in linux
[07:30] <needhelp> krazywolf: can you go into your busybox ?
[07:30] <leo_rockw> krazywolf: boot from the cd
[07:30] <krazywolf> needhelp, its on this machien
[07:30] <krazywolf> *machine
[07:30] <eagles0513875> how do i get kate not to save backup files
[07:30] <leo_rockw> krazywolf: and just use it. it might be slower than a full install, but you get to try kubuntu as it will be when you install it
[07:31] <needhelp> oh nvmind
[07:31] <krazywolf> I just re-installed wubi and kubuntu on this pc so im abou to restart and see what happens, I'll be right back
[07:31] <leo_rockw> eagles0513875: preferences > config kate > editor > open/save
[07:31] <needhelp> krazywolf: actually you don't have to do a full switch from windows to kubuntu.. just give a 10gb partition for kubuntu and you still can boot into windows
[07:31] <leo_rockw> eagles0513875: my kde is in spanish, so it might not be verbatim
[07:32] <leo_rockw> needhelp: the hardest part for new people is usually doing the partition
[07:32] <eagles0513875> lol iok
[07:32] <eagles0513875> i really need to work on mywebsite to help out new people who r new to linux
[07:33] <leo_rockw> my blog is mostly for people that already know what they are doing. i'm testing usb distros.
[07:33] <Ketrel> While I'm wating for this to complere
[07:33] <Ketrel> *complete
[07:33] <Ketrel> can anyone tell me if Seamonkey is in the repositorites?
[07:33] <eagles0513875> leo_rockw: that works my site is simplified how to's for beginners
[07:33] <eagles0513875> !info seamonkey | Ketrel
[07:33] <ubotu> ketrel: Package seamonkey does not exist in gutsy
[07:33] <leo_rockw> eagles0513875: can you give me a link?
[07:33] <eagles0513875> http://howtokubuntu.x10hosting.com
[07:34] <Ketrel> oh right
[07:34] <Ketrel> this is debian based
[07:34] <eagles0513875> only thing thats up is my forum atm im rather busy with school and exams now
[07:34] <Ketrel> !info iceape
[07:34] <ubotu> iceape (source: iceape): The Iceape Internet Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.5-1ubuntu0.7.10 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 84 kB
[07:34] <eagles0513875> Ketrel: u can get the seamonkey source code and compil from source
[07:34] <Ketrel> I will be doing that
[07:34] <Ketrel> I like the name seamonkey :p
[07:34] <leo_rockw> eagles0513875: i just voted kde... 4 votes for kde so far... 100%
[07:34] <eagles0513875> :) sweet im one of those 4 btw
[07:35] <eagles0513875> to get to the forum u have to sign up though which will only take a min and then u have to sign up for the forum
[07:35] <needhelp> hey krazywolf: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4334951&postcount=7
[07:35] <needhelp> blah he's gone
[07:35] <eagles0513875> lol
[07:35] <leo_rockw> i don't really see the point of wubi now that we have livecds
[07:35] <Ketrel> Anyone know offhand if mirc and noname script work under Wine?
[07:36] <eagles0513875> !info mirc
[07:36] <ubotu> Package mirc does not exist in gutsy
[07:36] <leo_rockw> i started with a wubi like distro... but livecds were non existent back when
[07:36] <Ketrel> eagles0513875, mirc = windows
[07:36] <eagles0513875> leo_rockw: wubi stinks
[07:36] <leo_rockw> eagles0513875: exactly!
[07:36] <eagles0513875> leo_rockw: so confusing to figure out how it works at leatst for me
[07:36] <eagles0513875> Ketrel: i have yet to try wine im still getting into fixing kubuntu bugs lol
[07:36] <leo_rockw> what's the point of using lignux on windows? you lose the stability
[07:37] <eagles0513875> leo_rockw: if u want that run a vm
[07:37] <Jucato> Ketrel: ask in #winehq
[07:37] <leo_rockw> eagles0513875: hehe, you and i think very much alike
[07:37] <Ketrel> ooh good idea Jucato
[07:37] <needhelp> Ketrel: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2502
[07:37] <Ketrel> I didn't know they had a channel
[07:37] <eagles0513875> leo_rockw: u in offtopic
[07:37] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: although you could try running mirc in wine, you should experience the lignux world and use x-chat / konversation / bitchx/ irssi instead
[07:37] <JoshOvki> right i gotta go work ladys and gents
[07:37] <Ketrel> It's more nonamescript I want to keep
[07:38] <leo_rockw> eagles0513875: ubuntu offtopic
[07:38] <eagles0513875> leo_rockw:  u in there right now
[07:38] <leo_rockw> eagles0513875: i'm in both now, kubuntu and ubuntu
[07:38] <JoshOvki> catch ya all later, dont break anything i wouldnt
[07:38] <Ketrel> can we break things you would?
[07:38] <eagles0513875> leo_rockw: im heading to offtopic
[07:38] <leo_rockw> JoshOvki: what if i want to break my dependencies?
[07:38] <leo_rockw> eagles0513875: ok, haha
[07:39] <JoshOvki> Ketrel: yup
[07:39] <leo_rockw> eagles0513875: you can pm me if you want
[07:39] <JoshOvki> i break pretty much everything, so you can do what you like ;)
[07:39] <JoshOvki> tata
[07:39] <eagles0513875> leo_rockw: have u identified ur nick
[07:39] <leo_rockw> eagles0513875: yup
[07:39] <leo_rockw> eagles0513875: and non identified nicks can pm me too
[07:39] <eagles0513875> leo_rockw: how is that possible
[07:40] <leo_rockw> eagles0513875: i told freenode to allow them. you can configure that
[07:40] <eagles0513875> didnt know that
[07:40] <Ketrel> Ok I got some output in konsole
[07:40] <xpkiller> how do i format my external hdd with gparted?im on ubuntu
[07:40] <Ketrel> It's asking me to confirm if I want ot do something with qt_plugins_3.3rc
[07:40] <Ketrel> if you give me a moment, I'll give it to you word for word
[07:41] <leo_rockw> xpkiller: don't mount it
[07:42] <leo_rockw> xpkiller: and then just format it
[07:42] <xpkiller> leo_rockw: hien? im lost :s
[07:42] <Ketrel2> Here's the exact text
[07:42] <leo_rockw> xpkiller: where are you stuck?
[07:42] <KrazyWolf> k im back
[07:42] <KrazyWolf> needhelp, im at that busybox again
[07:42] <leo_rockw> Ketrel2: if it's more than 2 lines use a pastebin
[07:43] <Ketrel2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63253/
[07:43] <KrazyWolf> I'm using a laptop as welll
[07:43] <xpkiller> leo_rockw: im on gparted and im looking for an option to format my hdd
[07:43] <Ketrel2> that's what took so long
[07:43] <Ketrel> (using the pastebin)
[07:43] <KrazyWolf> when i type cat casper.log
[07:43] <leo_rockw> xpkiller: is the hd mounted?
[07:43] <xpkiller> leo_rockw: i dont know i just put it on and it there
[07:43] <KrazyWolf> i get abunch of roots and scripts and weid stuff
[07:43] <KrazyWolf> lol
[07:43] <KrazyWolf> needhelp?
[07:44] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: wubi suxs best to do a clean install off the live cd
[07:44] <xpkiller> leo_rockw: i just unmount it.i saw the option
[07:44] <eagles0513875> if ur goign to do anything
[07:44] <leo_rockw> xpkiller: ok, open gparted again
[07:44] <KrazyWolf> but why do i keep getting this busybox thing?
[07:44] <KrazyWolf> how do i get to install it?
[07:44] <eagles0513875> with wubi
[07:44] <KrazyWolf> ya i know
[07:44] <eagles0513875> i have no idea
[07:44] <KrazyWolf> but when i run ubuntu
[07:44] <KrazyWolf> i get this busybox
[07:45] <Ketrel> Could that question be why it failed in the GUI?
[07:45] <KrazyWolf> me?
[07:45] <Ketrel> no
[07:45] <KrazyWolf> oh lol
[07:46] <leo_rockw> there's a major problem with wubi. people will have trouble and nobody will be able to help them because the people that answer questions don't usually run window$/wubi
[07:46] <xpkiller>  leo_rockw gparted just keep scanning
[07:46] <KrazyWolf> whats the command to restart?
[07:46] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: restart what
[07:46] <KrazyWolf> this busybox thing
[07:46] <Mkk> Hello, someone in here who can help me?
[07:46] <KrazyWolf> i want to restart my pc without holding the power button
[07:47] <KrazyWolf> I can't restart it through this command line thing
[07:47] <leo_rockw> !ask | Mkk
[07:47] <ubotu> Mkk: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:47] <Ketrel> KrazyWolf, did you use the shutdown command?
[07:47] <KrazyWolf> dont knw how
[07:47] <KrazyWolf> first time eve to linux
[07:47] <KrazyWolf> and not doing good to start out lol
[07:47] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: don't worry, we're here to help you
[07:47] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: shutdown -h i believe it is
[07:48] <Mkk> How can i get swedish language? beaucose i cant install it :S, It just English standing in the list.
[07:48] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: i usually shutdown from kde
[07:48] <KrazyWolf> iuno i just held down the power button
[07:48] <leo_rockw> Mkk: ok, are you in a live cd or in a fresh install?
[07:48] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: /facepalm...
[07:48] <KrazyWolf> Now everytime im going to boot my computer im going to get the choice of either windows or kubuntu
[07:48] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: that's not good for your h
[07:48] <Ketrel> if you want to reboot, KrazyWolf, try shutdown -t now -r
[07:48] <leo_rockw> hd*
[07:48] <xpkiller> leo_rockw: how do i format with the terminal?
[07:49] <KrazyWolf> when ubuntu don't even work lol
[07:49] <Mkk> leo_rockw:  Dunno, i have installed it, so im runinng it whitout cd atm
[07:49] <leo_rockw> xpkiller: cfdisk
[07:49] <Ketrel> What should I answer to that promt about qt_plugins?
[07:49] <DOOM_NX> good morning everyone :)
[07:50] <leo_rockw> Mkk: altr + f2 > kcontrol > country/region and language
[07:50] <KrazyWolf> how do i get a kubuntu livecd thing where i can run it off the cd?
[07:50] <leo_rockw> Mkk: sorry, regional and accesibility before country / region and language
[07:50] <Mkk> ok
[07:51] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: kubuntu webpage
[07:51] <Mkk> leo_rockw: When i press install new language, its just english standing in the list
[07:52] <leo_rockw> Mkk: there's a install new language at the bottom
[07:53] <xpkiller> this is to complicated im going back on linux to see if i can format my hdd
[07:53] <Mkk> its that one i mean, Swedish isnt in the list
[07:53] <xpkiller> xp
[07:53] <leo_rockw> Mkk: how weird
[07:53] <Mkk> Yes :/
[07:53] <leo_rockw> Mkk: it is in my list. i'm on hardy, tho
[07:54] <Mkk> Wierd
[07:55] <Mkk> Brb, going to relog
[07:58] <Mkk> leo_rockw: Hmpf, Didnt work.
[08:01] <leo_rockw> Mkk: mmhh... h/o
[08:01] <leo_rockw> Mkk: install this package: language-pack-kde-sv-base
[08:02] <Mkk> where can i find?
[08:02] <leo_rockw> Mkk: adept
[08:02] <Mkk> ok
[08:02] <leo_rockw> Mkk: or sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-sv-base
[08:04] <Mkk> leo_rockw: Coudnt find the pack
[08:05] <leo_rockw> Mkk: use the terminal command then
[08:05] <Mkk> it was that i did
[08:05] <leo_rockw> Mkk: try apt-cache search swedish
[08:07] <Mkk> where do i find apt-cache?
[08:07] <leo_rockw> Mkk: just run that command on terminal
[08:07] <Mkk> ok
[08:07] <leo_rockw> apt-cache search swedish
[08:07] <leo_rockw> ^ copy paste that
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[08:09] <leo_rockw> Mkk: see if you can find any package similar to language-pack-kde-sv-base
[08:09] <KidIcarus> Curious, what woud I need to do to get Compiz-Fusino in Kubuntu?
[08:09] <Mkk> no, just swedish language for eclipse, engimail and lightning-extension
[08:11] <Mkk> leo_rockw:
[08:11] <KidIcarus> Also, how do you update apt after you add a new repo?
[08:11] <leo_rockw> KidIcarus: sudo apt-get update
[08:12] <Mkk> sd
[08:12] <leo_rockw> Mkk: i don't know what to tell you...
[08:12] <KidIcarus> And do any of the default repos have compiz-fusion?
[08:14] <leo_rockw> KidIcarus: that's a possitive
[08:14] <KidIcarus> I only ask because the guide on the site says I don't but it's not showing up
[08:15] <mo> hey its krazywolf
[08:15] <mo> iunno whats wrong
[08:15] <mo> I tried to do that livecd thing, and after it boots it says "Start or instal ubuntu" so i select that, and when I do it goes to a command prompt
[08:15] <KidIcarus> !info compiz
[08:15] <ubotu> compiz (source: compiz): OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1.1 (gutsy), package size 30 kB, installed size 64 kB
[08:15] <KidIcarus> Hmmm, why isn't that showing up for me :\
[08:15] <leo_rockw> mo: after that try the command "startx"
[08:16] <mo> With some weird sudu command thing it wanted me to do? I thought live cd its suppose to just boot into whatever it is
[08:16] <leo_rockw> mo: it will probably give you an error. we need to know what that error was.
[08:16] <leo_rockw> mo: it is supposed to just boot into grapical, yes.
[08:17] <leo_rockw> mo: that doesn't mean it is flawless... there are millions of pieces of hardware out there.
[08:17] <mo> alright let mget get on my laptop
[08:17] <mo> so i can get help
[08:17] <lukas> Hi, does someone know how to get kubutu on swedish?
[08:17] <mo> brb
[08:18] <leo_rockw> lukas: Mkk was asking the same question...
[08:18] <KrazyWolf> alright
[08:18] <KrazyWolf> im back, so do i select start or install kubuntu?
[08:18] <KrazyWolf> or what option is it that i need to select when doing the livecd thignie
[08:18] <leo_rockw> lukas: i'm on hardy, and i have this package on my repos: language-pack-kde-sv-base
[08:18] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: pick that one
[08:18] <KrazyWolf> okay
[08:19] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: when the splash screen shows up press ctrl+alt+f1
[08:19] <KrazyWolf> I see the little kubuntu screen
[08:19] <Mkk> leo_rockw:  He are sitting next to me :P
[08:19] <lukas> oky xD I'm sitting next to mkk xD
[08:19] <leo_rockw> Mkk: oh, ok
[08:19] <KrazyWolf> Okay, I just did that, and now it is saying loading, please wait...
[08:19] <KrazyWolf> setting preliminary keymap and other weird stuff
[08:20] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: it will show you all the stuff it's loading
[08:20] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: something is not allowing X to start (X is the graphical part)
[08:20] <KrazyWolf> its kind of stuck on "running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)
[08:21] <KrazyWolf> alright well i pressed enter
[08:21] <KrazyWolf> and i got a ubuntu@ubuntu:^$ prompt, so i typed startx
[08:22] <KrazyWolf> gives me a fatal message or something like that not too sure
[08:22] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: what does the error message say exactly?
[08:22] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: screen not found?
[08:22] <KrazyWolf> yes
[08:22] <KrazyWolf> No screens found
[08:22] <KrazyWolf> XIO: Fatal IO error 104
[08:23] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: what's your videocard?
[08:23] <KrazyWolf> nvidia 8800gts 512mb
[08:23] <leo_rockw> mmhh... i don't know much about nvidia
[08:24] <KrazyWolf> so.. thats it? lol
[08:24] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: there's some problem with the video driver. i don't know how to solve it myself
[08:24] <KrazyWolf> http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages#head-93b1e0b56f76546d61364f789045e9c745b6cfd4
[08:24] <leo_rockw> google is your friend now
[08:24] <KrazyWolf> all that is chinese to me lol
[08:25] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: what version of kubuntu is it? 7.10?
[08:25] <KrazyWolf> yea
[08:25] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: ok, lemme help you stfw
[08:26] <KrazyWolf> stfw?
[08:26] <KrazyWolf> Fatal server error: no screens found XIO: Fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaning, thats the error message
[08:27] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: search the f***ing web
[08:27] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: apparently you have to press F6 before the "install / try kubuntu thing"
[08:27] <eagles0513875> guys calm down here
[08:27] <leo_rockw> and put nosplash
[08:27] <leo_rockw> eagles0513875: i wasn't asking him to stfw, lol
[08:27] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:27] <leo_rockw> eagles0513875: well, i was, but not directly
[08:27] <KrazyWolf> :(
[08:28] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: this is solved in the next ubuntu release
[08:28] <KrazyWolf> okay let me try that
[08:28] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: u r trying to install off the live cd right
[08:28] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: for now just change it to nosplash
[08:28] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: that will hopefully work
[08:28] <KrazyWolf> umm
[08:29] <KrazyWolf> when i press f6, I get boot options and it wants a command lol
[08:29] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: nosplash
[08:29] <eagles0513875> type nosplash
[08:29] <KrazyWolf> so delete the entire thing and enter nosplash?
[08:29] <KrazyWolf> k
[08:29] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: wait, what does it say?
[08:30] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: it probably says "splash" somewhere, just change it to nosplash, or just add nosplash
[08:30] <KrazyWolf> file=/cdrom/preseed/kubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash --
[08:31] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: change splash to nosplash
[08:31] <KrazyWolf> k
[08:31] <KrazyWolf> k its loading kernel
[08:31] <KrazyWolf> lets see what happens lol
[08:32] <KrazyWolf> great
[08:32] <KrazyWolf> busybox
[08:32] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: that video card was pretty new when gutsy was being developed
[08:32] <KrazyWolf> now im getting errors
[08:32] <KrazyWolf> failed to set xfermode
[08:32] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: do you get a prompt?
[08:32] <KrazyWolf> initramfs
[08:33] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: errors and warnings are normal
[08:33] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: it's trying to detect all your hardware
[08:33] <KrazyWolf> but it keeps saying [ 262.069299] ata1.00" failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x49)
[08:33] <KrazyWolf> oh okay so its working on something lol
[08:33] <KrazyWolf> This is a custom built pc
[08:34] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: what brand is your wireless card?
[08:34] <eagles0513875> that wont get setup until after installation
[08:34] <KrazyWolf> no wireless card, im doing it on desktop
[08:34] <leo_rockw> ok
[08:34] <eagles0513875> how old is this machine
[08:34] <KrazyWolf> what do i do with the command prompt?
[08:35] <KrazyWolf> i get a initramfs cmd prompt
[08:35] <leo_rockw> just wondering... broadcoms used to be a pain in the neck, not so much anymore
[08:35] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: startx
[08:35] <KrazyWolf> It's brand new eagles0513875, custom built it like 3 months ago
[08:35] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: those aren't any fun at all
[08:35] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: the newer the comp the harder to get hardware compatibility
[08:35] <KrazyWolf> i get this /bin/sh: startx: not found
[08:35] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: if it says initramfs it's probably busybox
[08:35] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: what leo_rockw said
[08:36] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: never heard of that
[08:36] <KrazyWolf> Ya I got a Core 2 Duo E6750, 8800 GTS G92 512MB graphics card
[08:36] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: i got my other laptop back in december and i cant get kubuntu gutsy on it i have a nasty bug and hardy locks up after install
[08:36] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: it's what it drops to if it fails to do important pre-boot things
[08:36] <KrazyWolf> everythings custom, just about
[08:36] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: so that's def not good then...
[08:36] <KrazyWolf> Ya it is busybox
[08:36] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: try the "dmesg" command
[08:37] <leo_rockw> wonder if that will work...
[08:37] <KrazyWolf> not found, "/bin/sh: dmesg: not found"
[08:37] <leo_rockw> it's the first time i hear something like that...
[08:37] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: not worth trying to run anything like startx, you don't even have your main filesystem mounted, probably.
[08:38] <KrazyWolf> im confused :(
[08:38] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: short story, your system failed to boot.
[08:38] <dwidmann> properly anyhow
[08:38] <KrazyWolf> so i guess im stuck iwht windows lol
[08:39] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: if the ubuntu live cd worked flawlessly there is hope
[08:39] <Ketrel> Quick question, how do you call up the CLI version of emacs?
[08:40] <Ketrel> when I do emacs filename, I get a gui version
[08:40] <dwidmann> IIRC you were using wubi, which is fairly new - maybe a normal install would have better luck
[08:40] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: emacs... and then use tab
[08:40] <KrazyWolf> I keep getting weird errors :(
[08:40] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: find out if you have any other app with that name
[08:40] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann, I uninstalled wubi
[08:40] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: no, he was using wubi and we told him to try the livecd
[08:40] <Ketrel> emacs and emacs22
[08:40] <KrazyWolf> But when I boot, it gives me the option to start vista or ubuntu
[08:40] <Ketrel> and emacsclient
[08:41] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: so, does the live cd boot or no?
[08:41] <KrazyWolf> yea it boots
[08:41] <KrazyWolf> and gives me the option on what to do
[08:41] <KrazyWolf> and i select start and install
[08:41] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: and after you select "start or install", does it boot?
[08:41] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: he gets fatal failure no screen founds. he has an nvidia 8800gts
[08:41] <KrazyWolf> no dude, it doesn't go to an graphical thing, it stays in command mode and gives me errors
[08:42] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: i found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/140908
[08:42] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: oh, fuuuunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[08:42] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: so i asked him to change splash to nosplash. and that's when you came to witness the busybox
[08:42] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: he needs to install with the alternate cd, then install the nvidia drivers
[08:42] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: it's his very first time on gnu/linux
[08:42] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: he wanted to see what he was getting into first
[08:42] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: or wait, maybe booting with the recovery option would work better
[08:43] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: it's requisite - booting to a gui before the nvidia drivers are installed with that card is impossible.
[08:43] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: he might have luck with the "recovery" option
[08:43] <KrazyWolf> maybe it'll work on this laptop?
[08:43] <KrazyWolf> This laptop is over 5 years old
[08:44] <Ketrel> I found the answer to emacs problem
[08:44] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: you'll probably have more luck
[08:44] <Ketrel> I have to use emacs -nw
[08:44] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: :-)
[08:44] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: should be able to get it to work, but it'll take a bit of instruction following, I just installed on a system with an nvidia 8600gt last week
[08:44] <KrazyWolf> anyone know how to remove the option of the windows boot manager? for some reason it is still showing me ubuntu when i did the wubi thing
[08:45] <KrazyWolf> brb im going to get on IRC on my desktop and try the livecd on this laptop
[08:45] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: just to let you know, gnu/linux is not usually this hard...
[08:45] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: the newer your hardware is the harder it can get
[08:46] <leo_rockw> <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: the newer the comp the harder to get hardware compatibility
[08:46] <leo_rockw> ;-)
[08:46] <leo_rockw> we need to make nvidia release their specs
[08:47] <orehon> Hello, Exist a patch to make dolphin order the files by type?
[08:48] <orehon> I am using kubuntu 7.10
[08:48] <dwidmann> ughh, this download is making my irc disconnect a lot :(
[08:50] <leo_rockw> orehon: it's the first time i notice d3lphin does not order by type... i usually use konqueror
[08:50] <orehon> leo_rockw: is.. but dolphin is very good and light
[08:50] <leo_rockw> orehon: that's pretty annoying! haha
[08:50] <Jucato> I don't have d3lphin right now, but isn't there an option in the View menu?
[08:50] <leo_rockw> Jucato: no, that's the thing
[08:50] <orehon> yes it is
[08:50] <orehon> No Jucato.
[08:51] <orehon> I am trying to find it at google
[08:51] <leo_rockw> Jucato: by name, by date, by size,
[08:51] <orehon> but I cant
[08:51] <Jucato> ah ok. :)
[08:51] <Jucato> (yeah D3lphin sucks... Dolphin rocks!)
[08:51] <dwidmann> orehon: right, Dolphin is very good, I refuse to say the same thing for D3lphin.
[08:51] <orehon> I am using Dolphin.
[08:51] <Jucato> no, you are using D3lphin
[08:51] <orehon> and dolphin doesnt has
[08:51] <stunatra> Whichever Dolphin that comes with Kubuntu, sucks.
[08:52] <Jucato> Dolphin is KDE 4 only
[08:52] <dwidmann> stunatra: that would be D3lphin
[08:52] <leo_rockw> dolphin is kde4, d3lphin is kde3
[08:52] <orehon> dolphin 0.9.2
[08:52] <orehon> oh... ok
[08:52] <leo_rockw> that's d3lphin.
[08:52] <orehon> I dont like kde 4
[08:52] <Jucato> Dolphin has sort by name, date, type, size, permissions, owner, group, ascending/descending :)
[08:53] <stunatra> I guess I'm too used to Konqueror.
[08:53] <orehon> I am only using kde cuz the bluetooth framework is better than gnome
[08:53] <dwidmann> orehon: you can use kde4 apps in kde3 :)
[08:53] <orehon> Oh really... it is new too me.
[08:54] <emilsedgh> orehon: you dont like KDE 4.0, not whole KDE4
[08:54] <orehon> Can I  install dolphin here?
[08:54] <dwidmann> orehon: you have to type out the whole command to run them though, or create  a workaround for doing so --- /usr/lib/kde4/bin/
[08:54] <ryancleminson> Does anyone know when the new kubuntu is being released
[08:55] <dwidmann> orehon: sudo apt-get install dolphin-kde4
[08:55] <orehon> ryancleminson: 24 of april... i guess
[08:55] <leo_rockw> ryancleminson: 24th
[08:55] <ryancleminson> cheers chaps
[08:55] <dwidmann> always the last thursday of the month IIRC
[08:55] <orehon> package not found dwidmann
[08:55] <leo_rockw> gnite everyone
[08:55] <dwidmann> orehon: , hmm, one sec
[08:56] <orehon> ehehe :D
[08:56] <Jucato> dwidmann: he needs to add the kde4 PPA repo
[08:56] <dwidmann> Jucato: ah, that would be it
[08:56]  * dwidmann is running hardy 
[08:57] <ryancleminson> will they update Gimp when the new Kubuntu is released?
[08:57] <stunatra> Hardy coming with Firefox 3 Beta?
[08:58] <orehon> stunatra: yes
[08:58] <stunatra> orehon: thanks
[08:58] <orehon> i hate FF3
[08:58] <stunatra> I think it's alright.
[08:58] <orehon> cuz the most of plugins doesnt work
[08:58] <ubuntu> Woot
[08:59] <mo> ha im back
[08:59] <mo> Its KrazyWolf
[08:59] <ubuntu> and this is KrazyWolf too, I got ubuntu to run on this laptop
[08:59] <dwidmann> orehon: that's the same with every release, that problem will fix itself .... slowly
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[09:00] <orehon> dwidmann: yes I know.. but I can not use FF without plugins.
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[09:00] <KrazyWolf-ubuntu> Hey guys, I got ubuntu livecd to work on my laptop
[09:00] <dwidmann> orehon: and that's where opera comes in :P
[09:00] <orehon> I need to use firebug every minute.
[09:00] <orehon> :P
[09:00] <emilsedgh> (thats Fx not FF)
[09:01] <dwidmann> hmm, hour and a half til my hardy disk is downloaded
[09:01] <orehon> dwidmann: I am going to send an email to d3lphin developers to ask about the file type
[09:01] <DarkriftX> im getting Unable to save bookmarks in /home/darkrift/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive
[09:01] <KrazyWolf-ubuntu> dwidmann: , I guess it is my graphics card, because livecd ran without a problem on my laptop
[09:01] <DarkriftX> and i created those folders/that file and still getting that error every time i close dolphin
[09:01] <DarkriftX> anyone know what the problem is?
[09:02] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf-ubuntu: I said that a while ago, you need to use the alternate disk.
[09:03] <KrazyWolf-ubuntu> dwidmann: , so how would i get ubuntu to work on my desktop?
[09:04] <DarkriftX> whats your question KrazyWolf-ubuntu, i dont see it
[09:05] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf-ubuntu: with the aforementioned alternate installation cd.
[09:05] <KrazyWolf-ubuntu> dwidmann: , so I would have to install it on the hard drive adn than get the drivers for the video?
[09:05] <KrazyWolf-ubuntu> but if I do that, it stops at the no screen fatal error thing, so how am i gonna get the driver on it if it won't even complete setup?
[09:06] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf-ubuntu: basically, you install with the ******alternate******** (NOT LIVE) cd (to your hard drive), then boot into recovery mode, install the drivers, and reboot and it should be fine
[09:06] <DarkriftX> do the text install
[09:07] <DarkriftX> or yeah, what he said
[09:07] <DarkriftX> thats easier
[09:07] <KrazyWolf-ubuntu> alright, thanks for the help everyone but its time for me to go to sleep, lol its 4 am here
[09:07] <KrazyWolf-ubuntu> I'll be around now since I'm doing the ubuntu thing, hopefully i'll grow to favoring it over windows
[09:07] <DarkriftX> shouldnt be hard
[09:07] <DarkriftX> use it for a few hours and that will happen
[09:09] <dwidmann> brb, restarting X to turn on my shmconfig
[09:11] <Ketrel> I have 2 questions. I have a file in my autostart folder that runs a command. It runs fine, but then it opens in Kate, how can I make it just execute but not open in kate? Also, is there any way to search apt-get using command line (to just see if somethign exists)?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: whats the file do / point to?
[09:13] <Ketrel> the file just has the following "compiz --replace &"
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: also try sudo apt-cache  search <package name>
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: does it have the standard #!/bin/bash at the start?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: did you chmod +x <script name> to make it executable?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: if you try those you may have more luck. reboot and tell us if its ok when you come back round
[09:20] <Ketrel> it is executable
[09:20] <janne> Hello! Is there some who could help me with mythtv?
[09:20] <Ketrel> but I didn't add the bash line
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: yeah you need that bit or its just a text file
[09:22] <Ketrel> ah
[09:22] <Ketrel> one other question, is there any way to make it connect to wireless automatically
[09:22] <Ketrel> the program starts but it won't connect to the access point unless I manually do it
[09:23] <Ketrel> I keep forgetting to manually do it :]
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: you need to make it autoconnect and enabled so standrd users can connect (i think)
[09:24] <Ketrel> no clue how to do that
[09:24] <Ketrel> that's what I want to do though
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: in your /etc/network/interface file do you see the line  auto wlan0 (or whatever your wifi is)
[09:27] <Ketrel> I see
[09:27] <Ketrel> auto lo
[09:27] <Ketrel> iface lo inet loopback
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> add auto <whatever your wifi is>
[09:28] <Ketrel> so in my case
[09:28] <Ketrel> auto eth1
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> run ifconfig in a konsole / yakuake ;) to see what it is
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> fine
[09:29] <Ketrel> kk, I gotta reboot for something, will see if that worked
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: np, you can always remove the line if its no good ;)
[09:34] <Ketrel> it didn't crash, but it's still not connecting to my access point without me manually doing it
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> what do you do to bring it up?
[09:35] <Ketrel> it's the knetworkmanager
[09:35] <Ketrel> it was sitting in kicker when I installed
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: do you use ndiswrapper for wireless?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-193930.html
[09:42] <Ketrel> cool I'll try that
[09:49] <janne> I get a error when i install mythtv: Failed to create database (incorrect admin username/password?)
[09:50] <martijn_nerd> hello
[09:50] <martijn_nerd> how do i switch of composite/aiglx on my open source ati driver (it's horribly slow now )
[09:50] <janne> and when I start mythbackend I get a another error: No UPnP backend found.
[09:50] <martijn_nerd> switch off of course
[09:50] <max_> I have a problem with tftp (server for boot with lan)  in my etc/xinetd.d do not appear the file tftp why?
[09:59] <zaputr> Who know adresses of russian IRC servers?
[10:02] <user__> ubuntu-ru
[10:02] <jpatrick> !ru | zaputr
[10:02] <ubotu> zaputr: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[10:03] <user__> aесли удастся получить...
[10:07] <zaputr> Is 115 Processes normal for Kubunta?
[10:08] <jpatrick> yes
[10:08] <SlimeyPete> yep
[10:08] <SlimeyPete> pete@voyager:~$ ps -ef | wc -l
[10:08] <SlimeyPete> 135
[10:12] <zaputr> If I install Ubunta, can I install KDE on it?
[10:13] <SlimeyPete> yes, and it's "Ubuntu"
[10:13] <SlimeyPete> you just install the package called "kubuntu-desktop"
[10:15] <senorpedro> you can even install xubunta
[10:15] <Ketrel> Does anyone here have kwifimanager experiance?
[10:16] <martijn_nerd> Ketrel; don't use it :)
[10:16] <martijn_nerd> go for knetworkmanager
[10:16] <jerknextdoor> zaputr: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[10:16] <Ketrel> I went to wifimanager because networkmanager wasn't working right :\
[10:16] <martijn_nerd> ah pitty
[10:16] <martijn_nerd> you know it doesn't do wpa right?
[10:17] <martijn_nerd> (at least it didn't a year a go)
[10:17] <jerknextdoor> zaputr:  that's a walkthrough that is easy to follow.  it allows you to have both kde and gnome installed so you can go between them (which is more useful than sliced cheese)
[10:18] <godkas> @_@ i'm so confused how is kubuntu different from ubuntu
[10:18] <martijn_nerd> kubuntu = kde
[10:18] <Ketrel> ok a different question then, how can I allow dhclient command to be used without sudo?
[10:18] <martijn_nerd> ubuntu = gnome
[10:18] <godkas> k thats what i thought
[10:18] <martijn_nerd> but all the drivers, kernel, etc is the same
[10:18] <godkas> i installed ubuntu and im like ARGH! this is terrible
[10:19] <godkas> i hate gnome mac looking smellyness
[10:20] <jerknextdoor> godkas:  it has nothing to do with mac looking.  personnally i think gnome feels more windows.  but i'm in the minority.  *nix is *nix.  looks feels however you want it
[10:20]  * zaputr is going to install Ubuntu
[10:20] <godkas> true but couldnt someone just install kde onto ubuntu?\
[10:20] <neville_> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! T_T;;
[10:22] <jerknextdoor> godkas:  yes you can instal kde ontop of kubuntu which is the way i suggest especially when first starting out.  just so you can find which you prefer.
[10:23] <godkas> so livecd cd or dvd
[10:23] <godkas> i preferr kde
[10:23] <godkas> :p
[10:24] <jerknextdoor> i would stick with the stables of them both when trying them out.  the alphas and betas tend to not be likable either way
[10:24] <Ketrel> is there an eqivalent command in linux to ipconfig /release
[10:26] <godkas> like whats the difference between alternate and desktop releases
[10:26] <godkas> desktop is livecd and the other is?
[10:27] <godkas> oh low memory
[10:29] <godkas> yeah im switching lol i cant handle this gnome
[10:29] <godkas> freekin me out man @_@
[10:31] <ubuntu> ciao a tuuti
[10:31] <ubuntu> who is italian?
[10:32] <petr> dobry den
[10:32] <ubuntu> hi
[10:32] <petr> jen absolutni zacatecnik a potreboval bych poradit v nejakych zalezitoetech je nekdo ochoten?
[10:32] <ubuntu> i must go bye!
[10:34] <petr> spek CZ?
[10:35] <emilsedgh> !cz
[10:35] <ubotu> České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.
[10:35] <petr> thnx
[10:36] <petr> what instal HD2600 for kubuntu?
[10:39] <needhelp> are there any applications to cut a portion of my mp3 out as another mp3 ?
[10:39] <godkas> <-- is sitting on one of the mirror locations (almost literally)
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[10:43] <icewaterman> anyone using gnash here?
[10:44] <icewaterman> i tried using it but failed probably because some plugins are missing, though i have many gstreamer plugins installed
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[10:50] <Ketrel> I got kwifimanger "working" in that I connect to the access point, and I get an IP. I can ping sites, but I can't load anything. Any ideas on what could be wrong?
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[10:53] <gokorn> what is a good program for wirelles?
[10:53] <max_> I have problem with tftp service, how I can start the tftp server service ?
[10:57] <godkas> Hey, Got a question. I burned a cd iso and when i go to boot it it gives me this ramfs prompt
[10:58] <godkas> (its a kubuntu install cd)
[11:00] <hacker94> scusate, ma è nella versione kubuntu 8.04 ci saranno tutti gli aggiornamenti precedenti?
[11:01] <hacker94> ci siete?
[11:01] <hacker94> non c'è nessuno???
[11:01] <iliya_> prova su chanale it
[11:02] <hacker94> where is canale it?
[11:02] <eagles0513875> !it
[11:02] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:03] <iliya_> non sono securo #kubuntu.it
[11:03] <iliya_> non sono securo #kubuntu-it
[11:03] <hacker94> thanks
[11:03] <eagles0513875> no prob
[11:04] <eagles0513875> !it | iliya_
[11:04] <ubotu> iliya_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:04] <hacker94> when i entry in kubuntu .it i'have created a channel!
[11:04] <eagles0513875> its kubuntu-it
[11:04] <eagles0513875> its -it
[11:09] <hacker94> welcome to #kubuntu.it : it's my channel
[11:13] <hacker94> welcome to #kubuntu.it : it's my channel
[11:13] <hacker94> welcome to #kubuntu.it : it's my channel
[11:13] <hacker94> welcome to #kubuntu.it : it's my channel
[11:13] <hacker94> WLCOME
[11:13] <Jucato> stop that
[11:13] <hacker94> why?
[11:13] <Jucato> 1. you are flooding. 2. you are spamming
[11:14] <hacker94> sorry
[11:14] <hacker94> i don't now
[11:14] <hacker94> know
[11:14] <godkas> tap tap tap tap tap tap tap thunk? (think theres a loose molex end)
[11:14] <godkas> lol
[11:21] <godkas_> ok ive tried 2 cd's and neither have worked
[11:21] <godkas_> i choose start or install and it tries to load up then seeks my floppy for a long time and initramfs
[11:25] <eagles0513875> godkas_: try disabling floppy in bios and take it out of boot sequence
[11:26] <anabain> I've installed a kubuntu in /sda5 (previously there was a deb sid) and I've kept /sda7 as /home, but in the process of installation I didn't tell te installer to get /sda7 as /home because I wasn't absolutely sure that data won't get corrupted. I want to know what need I to do to tell kubuntu that users are in /home /sda7. I've already changed the proper line in /etc/fstab
[11:29] <godkas_> hmm good idea
[11:29] <godkas_> brb (hopefully)
[11:35] <ubuntu> Gosh after trying gentoo
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[11:35] <fivetwentysix> I'm screaming back to Ubuntu
[11:36] <SlimeyPete> Gentoo is.... interesting
[11:36] <eagles0513875> ubuntu u finding kubuntu easy
[11:36] <fivetwentysix> Is it really neccessary to compile every single package
[11:37] <Jucato> fivetwentysix: only if you want to have control on what goes into your system and how they go in
[11:37] <SlimeyPete> 's only worth it if you have very specific needs
[11:37] <fivetwentysix> Jucato: I don't really care :-)
[11:37] <fivetwentysix> As long as it works
[11:37] <SlimeyPete> otherwise it's just posing
[11:38] <godkas> nope
[11:38] <godkas> initramfs still
[11:38] <fivetwentysix> It took me 5 hours just to install gnome
[11:38] <fivetwentysix> on Gentoo
[11:38] <godkas> thats what i hated about gentoo
[11:38] <Jucato> fivetwentysix: right. then don't use Gentoo. done deal.
[11:38] <jussi01> !ot
[11:38] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:38] <Jucato> next "on-topic" question
[11:39] <fivetwentysix> Is there anyway i can get i386 kubuntu to use 4gb of ram?
[11:39] <anabain> ubotu, I posted a topical question but nobody has answered yet, :(
[11:39] <Jucato> anabain: ubotu's a bot
[11:39] <anabain> oops
[11:39] <godkas> turning off floppy when i booted with desktop install disk did not get me past the initramfs prompt
[11:39] <Jucato> fivetwentysix: not unless you have 64-bit, then you'll need to use a 64-bit system
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=== Trel[Sleep] is now known as Ketrel
[11:40] <fivetwentysix> jucato how did mandriva use 4gb of my ram on the i686 architecture
[11:41] <Ketrel> I have one final problem with kubuntu. It's shutdown sound sounds just like the Windows XP error sound. I think I have whiplash :\
[11:41] <Jucato> oh wait... 4GB is the 32-bit limit.. hm..
[11:41] <eagles0513875> fivetwentysix: y would u wanna use 4gb of ram unless ur trying to run it as a complete ram disk which then if u have a poweroutage ur pretty much screwed
[11:41] <godkas> change the shutdown sound
[11:42] <fivetwentysix> eagles0513875: Because my system has 4gb of ram?
[11:42] <eagles0513875> use it when u need it when u open programs
[11:43] <fivetwentysix> eagles0513875 Do you have a proper answer to my question?
[11:43] <eagles0513875> fivetwentysix: im just not understanding why u wanna use all of ur ram though
[11:43] <SlimeyPete> fivetwentysix: I know a man who ran Gentoo on a Sun Ultra 10. It took three days to compile X.
[11:44] <fivetwentysix> hahaha
[11:44] <godkas> o_o
[11:44] <Jucato> right... Gentoo talk --> #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:44] <fivetwentysix> Well Kubuntu i386 only detects 2gb of my ram
[11:44] <fivetwentysix> I have 4gb of ram
[11:44] <eagles0513875> fivetwentysix: u on a desktop or laptop
[11:44] <fivetwentysix> Desktop
[11:44] <SlimeyPete> there's a slightly hacky way of using more than 2GB of RAM in a 32-bit system
[11:44] <godkas> so why wont my kubuntu disc work :/ im tired of gnome its oogl
[11:44] <godkas> y
[11:45] <eagles0513875> fivetwentysix: maybe there is a setting which might have gotten turned off if u wanna use more then 2gb of ram
[11:45] <fivetwentysix> SlimeyPete: speak!
[11:45] <SlimeyPete> I forget what it's called. It involves using a different paging method.
[11:45] <eagles0513875> godkas: u know u can dl the kde pkgs
[11:45] <godkas> uhuh
[11:45] <fivetwentysix> eagles051375 what would that be?
[11:45] <SlimeyPete> I suspect you'd need to recompile your kernel to get at it, and a single process can only use up to 2GB of RAM
[11:45] <nonewmsgs> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:45] <fivetwentysix> SlimeyPete so should i use x86_64?
[11:46] <nonewmsgs> of course
[11:46] <eagles0513875> SlimeyPete: isnt there also a setting in the bios
[11:46] <eagles0513875> i love 64bit and im only running 1.25gb
[11:46] <eagles0513875> fivetwentysix: regardless of how much ram u have u notice a performance increase as well
[11:46] <SlimeyPete> I don't notice a performance increase on 64-bit
[11:46] <SlimeyPete> but you may as well use it if you have that much RAM
[11:47] <fivetwentysix> eagles0513875: You will actually notice a performance decrease...
[11:48] <fivetwentysix> Alright
[11:48] <godkas> eagles0513875: my point is i dont want gnome on my comp :) i dislike it greatly
[11:48] <eagles0513875> fivetwentysix: im on 64bit version of hardy
[11:48] <eagles0513875> godkas: gotcha
[11:48] <eagles0513875> fivetwentysix: compared to the 32bit version imho there is an increase in performance
[11:50] <fivetwentysix> eagles0513875: Trust me the applications you use won't have any effect in performance, they'll just use more memory
[11:50] <fivetwentysix> The biggest difference between 32-bit and 64-bit are long integers
[11:50] <godkas> hmm im gonna try physically unplugging my floppy
[11:50] <godkas> brb
[11:51] <eagles0513875> godkas:
[11:51] <eagles0513875> godkas: then make sure u take it out of boot sequence and disable it
[11:51] <godkas> it is
[11:51] <eagles0513875> ok
[11:51] <fivetwentysix> fing live cd
[11:56] <vlt> Hello. When browsing in Konqueror and a request in one tab/window hasn't finished yet, I can't do another one to the same host (w/ same cookie?) in another tab/window. How can I change this behaviour?
[12:01] <sl4mm3r> hey there..   have what's hopefully a quick question ..   I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that you can have 2 keyboards/mice/monitors hooked up to 1 pc and run dual desktops ..  is this possible?
[12:02] <sl4mm3r> or is this jusst logging into an xterm via lan from a client machine
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> sl4mm3r: yeah if you check xorg.conf you will need to setup another server (I think)
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> sl4mm3r: if you look at the bottom of it you will see something intelligable
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> not sure how its done though but definately sounds definately feasable
[12:05] <sl4mm3r> i'm not sure how i will get a second terminal up to launch the xserver
[12:05] <sl4mm3r> once i've made a second config
[12:06] <sl4mm3r> maybe just alt-control tab to a blank terminal.. and when it launches hopefully it launches to the other screen
[12:06] <sl4mm3r> hopefully the usb won't share the kb/mouse
[12:06] <sl4mm3r> might have to disable usb hotplug
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> sl4mm3r: i would just incase
[12:08] <sl4mm3r> this should be a neat project
[12:08] <sl4mm3r> =]
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> sl4mm3r: document it then submit to the kb :D
[12:12] <icesword> !drxx
[12:12] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:14] <icesword> how to configure x and resolution in kubuntu?i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg got a command not found
[12:17] <cuznt> !dpkg-reconfigure
[12:17] <cuznt> !xserver
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <KubuntuJack> what is the right hannel for advice on a good gfx card for kubuntu?
[12:19] <sl4mm3r> KubuntuJack:  what are you looking for
[12:20] <icesword> !drakconf
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drakconf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <icesword> !info drakconf
[12:20] <ubotu> Package drakconf does not exist in gutsy
[12:22] <sl4mm3r> KubuntuJack: do you want to game?
[12:23] <KubuntuJack> sl4mm3r: I think some kind of nvidia.  I've been looking at 8600GT/GTS and 8800GT.  If everything works out I am gonna stay in kubuntu, and not play any games.  I wanna try compiz and 2:nd life.  Am trying to make a quiet computer since my main application is recording music...
[12:23] <sl4mm3r> i have an 8600 gt .. its not really that quiet ...
[12:24] <sl4mm3r> what resolution do you want to run at
[12:24] <sl4mm3r> nm the resolution question
[12:24] <sl4mm3r> hrm
[12:24] <sl4mm3r> quiet eh
[12:25] <sl4mm3r> well whatever you do .. reference this sheet
[12:25] <sl4mm3r> http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/132
[12:25] <KubuntuJack> I was looking at models from ASUS with a passive heatsink.  there is also a cooler from arctic cooling the accelero S1 whcih should even work on a 8800GT
[12:26] <sl4mm3r> if you are going to get an 8800gt vs 8800gtx ... you might want to look at the new 9800's too
[12:26] <sl4mm3r> they're 256 bit as well.. and i think might be cheaper
[12:26] <KubuntuJack> The res I don't know yet.  I'm gonna get a new monitor in a couple of months.  might go for 2 x 19-20" or may even a 24"..
[12:27] <sl4mm3r> its hard to find hidden gems right now..  we get what we pay for right now
[12:27] <sl4mm3r> i can run ultra mode at 1280x1024 in nexuiz .. but in 1920x1440 it stutters down to 20 fps .. having a 256 bit bus i think would help out
[12:27] <sl4mm3r> quite a bit
[12:28] <sl4mm3r> look for a 9600 with passive cooling
[12:29] <sl4mm3r> mind you .. the 8600 .... does run fairly cool
[12:29] <sl4mm3r> and apparently is only a volt mod away from being a gtx
[12:29] <sl4mm3r> if you are into that sorta thing
[12:29] <sl4mm3r> and the 8600gt does run kind of cool.. so you probably could put a heatsink on it
[12:29] <sl4mm3r> i actually have one for mine but i haven't bothered to install it since my cpu fan is so loud too
[12:29] <KubuntuJack> Yes and no.  I like to do shit like that, but on the otherhand it voids warranty...
[12:30] <sl4mm3r> but the 8600gt is leaving me wanting a bit more for higher res stuff
[12:30] <sl4mm3r> i o/c with coolbits too
[12:30] <sl4mm3r> still doesn't *do it
[12:31] <sl4mm3r> i see some 9600gts with passive cooling
[12:31] <sl4mm3r> they should compare to 8800s and be a bit cheaper
[12:32] <sl4mm3r> sorry
[12:32] <sl4mm3r> 9600gt
[12:32] <sl4mm3r> oh wait i did sayd 86
[12:32] <sl4mm3r> 96
[12:32] <sl4mm3r> %/
[12:32] <sl4mm3r> 9600gt .. 57gb/s
[12:32] <sl4mm3r> hrmmmm
[12:32] <SlimeyPete> they're not as powerful as 8800s from what I've read.
[12:33] <godkas> hmmmm
[12:33] <sl4mm3r> if you can get an 8800 for the same price
[12:33] <sl4mm3r> i'd grab the 8800
[12:33] <godkas> it installed but my K-menu is all messed up
[12:34] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:34] <eagles0513875> how so
[12:34] <eagles0513875> !offtopic sl4mm3r
[12:35] <user1>  i cant see 'downthemall' in package manager.. why?
[12:35] <KubuntuJack> so you mean that the 8800gt is better than the 9600?
[12:35] <godkas> eg. "_: Entries in K-menu: Amarok app name, Audio Player descr...
[12:35] <sl4mm3r> KubuntuJack: yah .. it has more shader clocks..  check the link i sent ya
[12:35] <godkas> and my package manager wont update
[12:35] <sl4mm3r> KubuntuJack: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/132
[12:36] <sl4mm3r> last offtopic
[12:36] <sl4mm3r> this is a good link for doing the "multi seat" i was wondering about
[12:36] <sl4mm3r> http://research.edm.uhasselt.be/~jori/page/index.php?n=Misc.DualSeatX
[12:36] <sl4mm3r> more then 1 person logged into 1 pc
[12:36] <sl4mm3r> anyways thx all
[12:36] <sl4mm3r> gl KubuntuJack
[12:37] <Dr_willis> Thers also that 'userful' linux thing/addon that can let you have a single pc - be ysed by several people at once
[12:38] <godkas> eagles0513875 any ideas?
[12:39] <eagles0513875> godkas: can u get to a command line using alt+f1
[12:39] <eagles0513875> then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade all pkgs
[12:39] <eagles0513875> godkas: u installed hardy or gutsy
[12:39] <godkas> gutsy
[12:40] <eagles0513875> well run the command i mentioned above and update pkgs and kernel and reboot using the latest kernel and see if that helps
[12:41] <godkas> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:41] <godkas> 0_o
[12:41] <eagles0513875> godkas: try sudo apt-get update
[12:42] <godkas> k and i went ahead and upgraded
[12:43] <eagles0513875> godkas: ok
[13:07] <dcorbin_work> I have an icon on my desktop.  When I drag it to a new location, it won't stay, but immediately reverts to the original location.  Any ideas for likely causes?
[13:08] <Dr_willis> there is an auto-clean up/align setting for icons
[13:09] <sahin_w> dcorbin_work: right click on desktop > icons
[13:12] <dcorbin_work> sahin_w: thanks.
[13:12] <sahin_w> dcorbin_work: np
[13:15] <spanther> n
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[13:16] <spanther> ah sorry i didnt want that
[13:17] <Dr_willis>  cls :)
[13:18] <eagles0513875> whats up doc
[13:19] <spanther> i really wonder why xchat had spaces inside the typing field :(
[13:19] <amerigo> !monitor
[13:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:19] <amerigo> !lcd
[13:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lcd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:19] <amerigo> ! lcd
[13:19] <amerigo> ! moitor
[13:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moitor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:19] <amerigo> ! monitor
[13:20] <Jucato> !msgthebot | amerigo
[13:20] <ubotu> amerigo: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[13:20] <jussi01> !msgthebot | amerigo
[13:21] <jussi01> heh
[13:21] <Jucato> ahem :P
[13:21] <amerigo> amen
[13:21] <spanther> eew religious xD
[13:22] <eagles0513875> !offtopic
[13:22] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[13:22] <chartoin> hi
[13:22] <chartoin> can anyone help me with vido in gusty?
[13:23] <chartoin> i get the sounds but I get a weird video output
[13:23] <Dr_willis> clarify the problem and question. and see who can help.
[13:23] <Dr_willis> You mean video file playback is garbled?
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[13:23] <chartoin> I can't exactly explain how the vido is
[13:23] <chartoin> is there a image bin link?
[13:23] <chartoin> I get green red and blue pixels
[13:23] <chartoin> not images
[13:24] <amerigo> i've a problem... kubuntu don't recognize my lcd monitor
[13:24] <amerigo> it is a acer al1520
[13:24] <Dr_willis> chartoin,  do you have an nvidia video card?
[13:24] <amerigo> where a can get right driver
[13:24] <amerigo> ???
[13:25] <chartoin> ATi card
[13:25] <amerigo> (sorry for my english)
[13:25] <chartoin> I have the restricted drivers installed
[13:25] <Dr_willis> amerigo,  ive never neeed any driver for my lcd's - I have had to install the proper nvidia or ati drivers. for the video cards to determine the proper res for the lcds befor.
[13:26] <Dr_willis> chartoin,  There used to be a bug with the nvidia drivers that caused somthing like that. Ive no idea on ati. try playing the videos with gmplayer, or vlc, and run them from the terminal, see if thers any error messages or interesting data they say about the files.
[13:27] <chartoin> http://imagebin.org/16459
[13:27] <amerigo> Dr_Wills: my video card is integrated (I think tha kubuntu recognized it correctly)
[13:27] <chartoin> check out that to see exactly what I get
[13:27] <amerigo> (but I don't know how to check it)
[13:28] <eagles0513875> amerigo: try glxinfo
[13:28] <eagles0513875> amerigo: u want to see if open gl is workign right
[13:28] <amerigo> in the monitor option I know only that the model don't appears
[13:28] <Dr_willis> chartoin,  i suggest trying to play the videos from vlc, or gmplayer, or other players from a terminal, and see if they spit out any usefull error message.   also you may need to isntall all the codec packs also.
[13:28] <amerigo> ok eagles ... one moment
[13:29] <eagles0513875> amerigo: ok
[13:29] <chartoin> http://pastebin.com/m396ae129
[13:29] <amerigo> ok doctor
[13:29] <chartoin> I tried playing from terminal and I got the output http://pastebin.com/m396ae129
[13:29] <Dr_willis> a blank video screen, but sound - sounds like  the video codecs are not there for the player to use.
[13:29] <chartoin> I have installed all the codec packs
[13:30] <Dr_willis> try some other videos, try running from the terminal. looking for infomational messages.. is about all you can do then.
[13:30] <chartoin> did you check out the pastebin link
[13:30] <chartoin> it shows the error
[13:31] <amerigo> where i can paste the output from glxinfo??
[13:32] <chartoin> amerigo paste it herehttp://pastebin.com/
[13:32] <chartoin> amerigo paste it here http://pastebin.com/
[13:32] <chartoin> then give the link in your address bar in this channel
[13:33] <amerigo> Here you can see all the info a get http://pastebin.com/d69ec111c
[13:34] <Dr_willis> the 'pastebinit' command is VERY handy :)
[13:35] <Dr_willis> !info pastebinit
[13:35] <ubotu> pastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 7 kB, installed size 84 kB
[13:37] <amerigo> Dr_Willis: I've try caffeine ... I don't know the program you said....
[13:38] <amerigo> kaffeine said that I have no codec to reproduce a .smill file
[13:39] <chartoin> Dr.willis, didi you look at this? http://pastebin.com/
[13:39] <cuznt> amerigo smil is an old codec
[13:39] <cuznt> try helix player
[13:40] <amerigo> my problem is little different
[13:41] <cuznt> right on
[13:41] <chartoin> youtube videos work fine
[13:41] <amerigo> kubuntu don't recognize my monitor (it is set like generic monitor)
[13:41] <amerigo> so I cannot adjust resolution
[13:42] <amerigo> youtube works already fine
[13:42] <Dr_willis> helix player? egsds. :) try vlc and mplayer,gmplayer...
[13:42] <Dr_willis> well its bed time here.. night all
[13:44] <amerigo> eagles: no tips?
[13:45] <eagles0513875> amerigo: i had that issue do u have direct rendering a yes
[13:48] <emil> salut cine a facut cursul fundamentals of unix?
[13:49] <eagles0513875> !fr
[13:49] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
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[13:50] <emil> qui fait le course fundamentals of unix?
[13:51] <Jucato> !fr | emil
[13:51] <ubotu> emil: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:52] <emil> who made the course fundamentals of unix?
[13:54] <amerigo> eagles: I do not understand
[13:54] <amerigo> eagles: what you said?
[13:54] <emil> me?
[13:54] <amerigo> no eagles..
[13:55] <emil> ok
[13:56] <Jucato> amerigo: you can use the Tab key to autocomplete someone's nick, like type "eagle" then hit the Tab key. calling them by their complete nick will notify them that their name has been mentioned, one way or another
[13:59] <amerigo> thank you Jucato
[13:59] <amerigo> or you are a bot....
[14:00]  * Jucato whacks amerigo... that should give you an idea
[14:00] <amerigo> thank you the same
[14:00] <amerigo> oh sorry
[14:00] <amerigo> and * this is?
[14:00] <Jucato> hm?
[14:01] <amerigo> i'm newbie of this chat-forum
[14:05] <noam_> what might cause this: http://picasaweb.google.com/noam.mor/HelloWorld/photo#5189456618707501090 ? i mean the yellow lines
[14:05] <makdaknife> noam_: looks like a dodgy graphics card... or driver
[14:06] <noam_> :/
[14:06] <Nyad> Hi, anyone here use wxPython, the wxPython channel is dead
[14:06] <noam_> try #python
[14:07] <Nyad> ok
[14:08] <Jucato> or #wxwidgets if there is one
[14:09] <Nyad> ah there is :) thanks
[14:11] <godkas> There i found a fix
[14:11] <godkas> regional settings
[14:11] <emil> hi who made the course fundamentals of unix?
[14:14] <Nyad> what does i18n mean?
[14:15] <Pici> internationalization
[14:16] <Pici> Nyad: supposedly because there are 18 characters between the first and last characters.  Basically its translating.
[14:16] <Nyad> oh ok
[14:20] <PhilRod> (strictly speaking, i18n is enabling your app to be translated, while l10n is actually translating it into a given language, but i18n is often used for both)
[14:21] <jim> Hey
[14:21] <Pici> Much better explanation there.
[14:21] <jim> i buggered up my apt thingy  !! how can i fix it again
[14:21] <jim> it says "The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem."
[14:22] <llutz> !aptfix
[14:22] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:23] <jim> nah still same thing
[14:24] <jim> i was playing around with it trying to learn how it works and i put in a command line into it, in the sourse code thingy and it doesnt work now
[14:26] <jim> so no more ideas i take it ?
[14:42] <nerd__> .
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[14:44] <user1> where to download vbox puel version?
[14:45] <SlimeyPete> user1: from the virtualbox website?
[14:45] <SlimeyPete> or else the OSS version is in the repos
[14:45] <user1> exact link?
[14:45] <user1>  i want puel
[14:46] <SlimeyPete> user1: there's a link on their download page.
[14:46] <SlimeyPete> it's labelled "binaries"
[14:46] <user1> hm
[14:48] <user1> SlimeyPete thx
[15:11] <Ayabara> why oh why can't kubuntu have as good support for laptop media buttons as ubuntu do? shouldn't it be possible to use the same information to make it work by default?
[15:13] <stdin> "The only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is that Ubuntu uses Gnome by default and Kubuntu uses KDE by default", so you're looking at a KDE (4) bug
[15:14] <Knight488> if I install 8.04, will the downloader update my files to the official 8.04 release when it comes out?
[15:14] <stdin> yes
[15:14] <loumalin> #ubuntu-fr
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[15:16] <Ayabara> stdin, meaning that distro using kde has better support for multimedia keys than kubuntu does?
[15:17] <stdin> Ayabara: no, meaning that not being able to use MM keys is a KDE4 issue, if you run KDE3's amarok, for instance, they work
[15:18] <stdin> (run KDE3's amarok in a KDE4 session)
[15:18] <popojijo> does anyone know how to get  rid of the double screen in kde4?
[15:18] <Ayabara> stdin, ah. ok. they don't work well for me in kde3 either, but at least they do something :-) thanks for enlightening me
[15:19] <Ayabara> kde3-applications, that is
[15:19] <stdin> if they don't work in KDE3 either, it's usually a kernel/Xorg issue
[15:19] <stdin> and that would be shared by Gnome/Ubuntu too
[15:20] <stdin> if not, then... I don't know :)
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[15:21] <Ayabara> stdin, in gutsy they work well with gnome, but not with kde. I saw a kmilo bug somewhere that explained it. kde4 only now, so I'll focus on that :-)
[15:22] <_abbenormal> hello
[15:22] <popojijo> hello
[15:23] <popojijo> does anyone know how to get  rid of the double screen in kde4?
[15:23] <stdin> popojijo: try #kubuntu-kde4
[15:24] <popojijo> k , will try
[15:24] <_abbenormal> is there a way to compile a kernel in kubuntu and not have to make initrd image to boot the system i would like to use vanilla kernels and compile the debian way
[15:24] <stdin> the debian way _is_ to use an initrd
[15:24] <stdin> anyway:
[15:24] <stdin> !kernel
[15:24] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[15:24] <MarcC-backroom> how can I get KDE to stop restoring compiz to run when it restores the last session?
[15:25] <Ayabara> stdin, did you mean that the MM keys not working is a known kde4 issue, or that it's something I should bug ppl in #kde (like you ;) with?
[15:25] <SlimeyPete> MarcC-backroom: kill compiz, then log out.
[15:25] <_abbenormal> ok then why cannt i use a kernel ive compiled under debian in kubuntu
[15:25] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: system settings > advanced > session manager
[15:25] <MarcC-backroom> SlimeyPete, doesn't work
[15:26] <stdin> Ayabara: I think it's known, I've never been able to use them in KDE4 but I can in KDE3 and KDE3 apps
[15:27] <MarcC-backroom> how do I edit the KDE session to prevent some apps from restarting at login?
[15:27] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: I just told you
[15:28] <MarcC-backroom> stdin, sorry, I can't get there, is there a cmd line way?
[15:28] <stdin> why can't you get there?
[15:28] <MarcC-backroom> stdin, no windeco
[15:29] <MarcC-backroom> I try to run kwin --replace from the console and it logs me out :-/
[15:30] <stdin> I think in ~/.kde/share/config/ksmserverrc add "excludeApps=compiz"
[15:30] <MarcC-backroom> awesome, I'll try that, thanks stdin
[15:31] <stdin> put it under "[General]"
[15:32] <_abbenormal> stdin, you have a few minutes
[15:32] <stdin> probably
[15:33] <_abbenormal> cool
[15:33] <_abbenormal> ok im tring to use a multiproto driver for testing new dvb cards
[15:34] <kblin> hi folks
[15:34] <_abbenormal>  the way i know how to work it is build it outside of the kernel
[15:34] <_abbenormal> then install it to the modules folder related to the kernel
[15:35] <stdin> right
[15:35] <MarcC-backroom> stdin, thanks, that worked...how do I manually save my session, btw?
[15:35] <_abbenormal> so whne i make a kernel for debian and install it it makes a sub folder for modules under the name of the kernel
[15:35] <kblin> I need to upgrade a gutsy box to hardy (to get some software that doesn't really work in gutsy yet), but over a rather slow link, what'd be the best way to do this?
[15:36] <_abbenormal> i then install the prototype drivers to it
[15:36] <kblin> I'm happy to run it doing an aptitude dist-upgrade over night if it doesn't require user interaction
[15:36] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: hmm, not sure actually. I've never needed to manually save my session
[15:37] <veloxid> hey I have a problem with my speedstepping, i have a 2ghz centrino_m dothan but the max_freq is 600Mhz
[15:37] <_abbenormal> when i make a normal kernel under my debain box i dont have to use intrd in the command line
[15:37] <MarcC-backroom> stdin, I ask because I changed system settings to load a manually saved session at startup
[15:37] <stdin> _abbenormal: the initrd has it's own command in grub, septate from the kernel line
[15:38] <_abbenormal> yes i understand that
[15:38] <flipstar> hi, i want to create a very simple website..any good, easy tools for that ?
[15:38] <_abbenormal> but if i dont use one it wont boot the drive
[15:39] <llutz> flipstar: vi
[15:39] <flipstar> llutz: im not so good in html..
[15:39] <flipstar> it basicly should just contain to images to 2 different index.html's
[15:39] <llutz> flipstar: http://www.selfhtml.org/
[15:39] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: ask in #kde maybe
[15:40] <veloxid> hey flipstar! Still have my problem with the speedstepping
[15:40] <stdin> _abbenormal: what happens when you try to boot the compiled kernel?
[15:41] <flipstar> veloxid: tryed the gutsy live cd ?
[15:41] <stdin> flipstar: quanta?
[15:42] <flipstar> i'll check this, thanks
[15:42] <_abbenormal> it go into kernel panic and gives a vfs error not found at hd0,0
[15:42] <veloxid> flipstar: yeah tried it, but it run on 600mhz too,
[15:42] <stdin> yeah, that means it wants a initrd image
[15:42] <stdin> or the one given is bad
[15:43] <veloxid> but found out, that the kernel-modul   p4-clockmod"
[15:43] <veloxid> did not run,
[15:43] <_abbenormal> ok so then kubuntu has to use initrd to boot the drive
[15:43] <dwidmann> kind of an offtopic question, but something I need to ask -- My CPU temp is looking pretty crazy right away on a cold boot, it's reading around 55-60 whereas other things are reading anywhere from 22-32. I've heard sometimes it misreports by like double/half/etc, is this likely to be the case or do I have a seriously bad CPU temp problem?
[15:43] <flipstar> dwidmann: open the case and check out :)
[15:43] <stdin> _abbenormal: it's a kernel compile-time option, should have noting to do with the distro
[15:44] <SlimeyPete> dwidmann: if I were you I'd assume the latter, just in case. Generally the inbuilt thermometers are pretty good.
[15:44] <_abbenormal> just seams strange to have to build extra items when in the mian os its not needed
[15:44] <stdin> can't you just compile the module against the current kernel?
[15:44] <SlimeyPete> though 50-60 idle temp isn't unheard-of for some processors
[15:44] <SlimeyPete> especially if you have a small case and stock cooling
[15:44] <veloxid> so I started it, now i find the folder cpu_freq, but the problem is that the cpuinfo_max_freq is on 600Mhz, and is not changable
[15:45] <_abbenormal> nope wont load no place to install the drivers that it finds
[15:45] <dwidmann> SlimeyPete: flipstar: well, I've checked everything I could think of, twice. I just can't believe that it would be at 60C on a COLD boot, where the ambient temperature in my room is about .... 60F or so.
[15:45] <_abbenormal> and if i compile them into the kernel then everytime i try a new driver or change what the driver does i have to then compile a kernel
[15:46] <MarcC-backroom> stdin, thanks, got the answer in #kde - if you change to manual you get a new option on your KMenu to save session
[15:46] <_abbenormal> where im use to stoping the driver then compiling just the driver and not having to make a new kernel each time
[15:46] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: so I saw ;)
[15:46] <MarcC-backroom> can somebody tell me how I can mount a CIFS share at startup? Doing it manually now
[15:46] <MarcC-backroom> stdin, oh, lol
[15:47] <veloxid> flipstar: You have any other idea?
[15:47] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[15:47] <flipstar> veloxid: no..maybe report a bug..
[15:48] <_abbenormal> thanks stdin ill figure it out
[15:48] <MarcC-backroom> thanks stdin
[15:48] <veloxid> perhaps a good idea
[15:48] <dwidmann> SlimeyPete: flipstar: just seems a little crazy to me ..... because I once watched my temps when I used a hsf that I had forgotten to plug in and it was still ambient temperature on boot and took about 15 minutes before it hit 50-60.....
[15:49] <flipstar> dwidmann: it might be the sensor is detected incorrect..here i have the same..70°C instead of 50°C
[15:50] <MarcC-backroom> stdin, do you know if this will cause any sort of long delay when I startup and it can't find the shares? (if I'm on another network)
[15:50] <dwidmann> flipstar: hmm, I'm guessing either +30C or *2 .... I wonder if there's any good ways of checking
[15:50] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: probably, yes. and you have to make sure that the network is up before it tries to mount them...
[15:51] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: you could do some fancy stuff in /etc/rc.local (rc.local is always the last startup tast)
[15:51] <MarcC-backroom> k, thanks stdin, doing it via the terminal is pretty fast, so maybe I won't bother
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[15:51] <MarcC-backroom> although I wonder if there's a way to mount all 3 shares with one command rather than 3 separate commands
[15:52] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: sure, separate them with ';' ;)
[15:53] <MarcC-backroom> ooh, thanks stdin :D learning a lot today
[15:54] <flipstar> phew..this html thing is complecated for me..no wysiwyg editor :) ?
[15:54] <llutz> flipstar: openoffice writer :)
[15:54] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: you can use ';'  '&&' and '||' to string commands together. ';' mean "then run...", '&&' means "if that command worked, then run..." and '||' means "if that command failed, then run..."
[15:54] <MarcC-backroom> ho ho ho
[15:55] <MarcC-backroom> now that's cool
[15:55] <LaVitaBella> Hello can somebody help me please where can i find the IRC logs of kopete?
[15:55] <MarcC-backroom> stdin, if those are 'sudo' commands, will it ask for the pass x3?
[15:55] <stdin> LaVitaBella: probably in ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/logs
[15:55] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: no, sudo only asks once every (by default) 15 mins per terminal
[15:56] <MarcC-backroom> coool
[15:57] <flipstar> llutz: haha thx :=)) seems to work
[16:19] <Andre_Re> hi
[16:20] <Andre_Re> hi+
[16:20] <Andre_Re> i have a problem with kubuntu
[16:20] <Andre_Re> the wlan is extremely slowly and sometimes the connection dies
[16:21] <Breetai> hey all, running hardy kubuntu beta. My monitor blanks after 45 minutes. Even when I change the Power saving settings in the Kontrol Panel, it somehone gets renabled. ANy clues what is going on?
[16:22] <algyz> !hardy | Breetai
[16:22] <ubotu> Breetai: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:24] <Breetai> Thanks did not know about #ubuntu+1
[16:28] <tashiro> i just created a new partition using qtparted when i copy data however i get an errorr:"access denied" sum 1help
[16:30] <tashiro> any 1?
[16:31] <MarcC-backroom> !asking-proper-questions
[16:31] <MarcC-backroom> darn
[16:31] <tashiro> excuse me?
[16:32] <MarcC-backroom> !ask-your-freaking-question
[16:32] <MarcC-backroom> didn't work either
[16:32] <MarcC-backroom> sorry, just preparing for later
[16:32] <tashiro> wtf?
[16:32] <MarcC-backroom> tashiro, good luck, hope sum1 answers
[16:32] <hydrogen> !ask
[16:32] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:33] <MarcC-backroom> DUDE there it is
[16:33] <hydrogen> !en | MarcC-backroom
[16:33] <ubotu> MarcC-backroom: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[16:33] <MarcC-backroom> rofl
[16:33] <Pici> !msgthebot
[16:33] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:33] <hydrogen> "sum1" isn't english
[16:33] <MarcC-backroom> | tashiro
[16:33] <tashiro> english is not my langugage
[16:33] <tashiro> language
[16:33] <MarcC-backroom> tashiro, #kubuntu-tashirese
[16:34] <Jucato> MarcC-backroom: enough of that please
[16:34] <tashiro> i dont see wy u have to shit on me just because my english is no good
[16:34] <Pici> tashiro: calm down.
[16:34] <trappist> tashiro: language, please
[16:35] <Pici> tashiro: Whats your native language?
[16:35] <tashiro> TSHIVENDA
[16:35] <Pici> tashiro: actually, nevermind, your first question was quite well worded.
[16:35] <hydrogen> this has gone out of control.
[16:35] <petr> #ubuntu-cz
[16:36] <trappist> tashiro: your english skills are fine
[16:36] <Jucato> tashiro: you English is fine, just please avoid using "any1" or "u" and type in complete words
[16:36] <tashiro> can some one help me then?
[16:36] <trpr> oy. the backlash against the aolisms. i wish we as a channel could just quietly look the other way :(
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[16:37] <trappist> trpr: I do look the other way - you're more likely to get help when people aren't looking the other way
[16:37] <MarcC-backroom> I am on a fixed income I cant afford AOL language lessons
[16:37] <Jucato> tashiro: my guess is that your newly created partition is just not mounted properly
[16:38] <tashiro> not mounted properly?
[16:38] <trappist> tashiro: mounted with wrong ownership/permissions
[16:38] <trappist> wrong for your purposes, anyway
[16:38] <Jucato> not mounted with correct permissions to be writeable
[16:38] <MarcC-backroom> tashiro, how are you mounting the partition
[16:39] <tashiro> well i set it to writeable in the system settings
[16:41] <MarcC-backroom> tashiro, partition type?
[16:41] <tashiro> ext3
[16:41] <BlackAura> So I'm still having the .deb files being 0 bytes problem......
[16:42] <BlackAura> It was confirmed by someone else when I brought it up a week ago, I'm surprised it hasn't been fixed yet......does anyone know of another kubuntu repository other than kubuntu.org/...
[16:43] <MarcC-backroom> tashiro, so is the partition listed in /etc/fstab?
[16:44] <BlackAura> or would someone mind checking to see if they can download this file for me?  http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356-pre-feisty-upgrade/pool-edgy/kdelibs/kdelibs-data_3.5.6-0ubuntu1.1really3.5.5_all.deb  when I try to grab it, or any other .deb file from kubuntu.org/packages, I get a 0 byte file.  All the .diff.gz files are okay, and any other files I've checked are okay, but the .deb ones don't seem to work....is it just me?
[16:44] <tashiro> yeah
[16:44] <MarcC-backroom> tashiro, it would help to see /etc/fstab perhaps
[16:51] <alx54> eerm anybody know how to make strigi keep its index? i dont want to index my whole disk before searching everytime =(
[16:58] <Xbehave> what program is responsible for buffering streams. say im watching a film in firefox3 using mplayer, is it the plugin or mplayer that decides how long to buffer for
[16:59] <MarcC-backroom> Xbehave, that's mplayer plugin, and I think you can change that in its configuration
[16:59] <MarcC-backroom> I made a bunch of changes to it and wow, major difference
[17:00] <MarcC-backroom> Xbehave, http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/config.php
[17:00] <Xbehave> thx
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[17:07] <genii> alx54: KDE is incorporating soon nepomukserver which is a DBUS based program which allows configuring of strigi beyond the usual strigi:/ method in file browser. But it not yet packaged for ubuntu, although you can manually install if desired.
[17:09] <alx54> genii thanks! so if i wanna have a usable desktopsearch in kubuntu, i'll have to use Beagle (with Kerry frontend) ?
[17:09] <genii> alx54: For now thats probably your best option
[17:09] <alx54> genii cool thanks!
[17:10] <genii> alx54: np
[17:29] <ryancleminson> Evening All
[17:31] <user1_> in firefox how do i resume downloading of downthemall ?
[17:31] <flipstar> is there an application that shows the size of an window ?
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[17:31] <ryancleminson_> Evening All
[17:32] <flipstar> nvm, got it
[17:32] <ryancleminson_> Does anyone know if Gimp is being updated in the next version of Kubuntu
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[17:33] <flipstar> ryancleminson_: 2.4.5-1ubuntu2 is currently in hardy
[17:34] <ryancleminson_> cheers Flipstar
[17:34] <user1_> in firefox how do i resume downloading of downthemall ?
[17:34] <ryancleminson_> I know there has been talk about something called Geggle?
[17:34] <flipstar> user1_: you have to install an downloadmanager for that
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[17:35] <ryancleminson_> Anyone shed some light on this
[17:35] <user1_> f.k
[17:35] <user1_> flipstar i have already downthemall installed
[17:35] <julio1> hola alguien habla español
[17:35] <flipstar> oh..doesn't is resume automaticly .. ?
[17:36] <hitmanWilly> !es | julio1
[17:36] <ubotu> julio1: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:36] <julio1> ya
[17:36] <user1_> flipstar tools>downthemall>manager.       i got it. thx
[17:45] <elida> elida
[17:45] <makdaknife> makdaknife
[17:45] <flipstar> flipstar
[17:47] <reese_> is it possible to install the adobe flash player on a 64bit?
[17:51] <BlackAura> reese_: you'll have to run a 32-bit build of konqueror or firefox or the browser of your choice
[17:52] <j2daosh> hey all
[17:52] <BlackAura> reese_: generally you'll have to create a 32-bit chroot (it's another 32-bit system created somewhere other than your root folder), there are a couple HowTo's online to do it
[17:52] <j2daosh> how do i install kubuntu off the cd without having x running? for some reason i can get the x to load up on my laptop. when i look in the output files it says no screens found
[17:53] <j2daosh> correction, screens found but no usual configurations
[17:53] <XenThraL> I have 64 and I dont need to run a 64bit firefox
[17:53] <XenThraL> eh, 32bit firefox
[17:53] <XenThraL> to watch flash videos
[17:54] <j2daosh> what do i need to do to get x up and working?
[17:54] <BlackAura> I also know Gentoo used to run a dual lib'd system.......you had a /lib64 and a /lib32, and every library you installed used to be built for both archs, that way you could build a 64bit or 32bit app on top of it
[17:54] <BlackAura> j2daosh: do you have an ATI graphics card?
[17:54] <j2daosh> nope, a pos onboard intel
[17:55] <BlackAura> XenThraL: awesome!  Personally I was looking for an alternative as i didn't want to create a chroot just to have flash support in firefox......do you know how you went about getting it?
[17:55] <j2daosh> intel 82845g
[17:55] <XenThraL> yeah
[17:55] <XenThraL> same command as for the 32bit version
[17:55] <XenThraL> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree or something
[17:55] <BlackAura> j2daosh: ah okay, I had problems getting X to load on my laptop, and I had to install the ATI drivers before it would work
[17:55] <BlackAura> oh, cool, I'll have to try that when I get home....
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[17:56] <j2daosh> ok, so how do i do that?
[17:56] <j2daosh> its the live cd version
[17:57] <BlackAura> j2daosh: well, that was because my laptop had an ATI graphics card that didn't like the default X drivers
[17:58] <j2daosh> i think i remember having to install nvidia for this the last time i tried it
[17:58] <j2daosh> how do i tell it to use a diferent one? xorg-reconfiure?
[18:03] <leo> hola al alguien
[18:08] <jonathan__> hello!
[18:08] <jonathan__> I've a further question :D
[18:09] <jonathan__> i try to sync my palm with kubuntu
[18:09] <jonathan__> so i had to log the port it'S connected to.
[18:09] <jonathan__> a logfile says following:
[18:09] <jonathan__> new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 31
[18:09] <jonathan__> what means this??
[18:10] <jonathan__> i need a /dev/...-port
[18:10] <flipstar> jonathan__: try <sudo fdisk -l>
[18:11] <jussio1> !portables | jonathan__
[18:11] <ubotu> jonathan__: Guides for smartphones and portable devices can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/
[18:11] <FFForever> can i see the output from scripts on cron?
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[18:18] <jonathan__> this doesn't work cause i'm using kde ;)
[18:18] <jonathan__> and's not neccessary
[18:18] <jonathan__> i just need the dev-port my palm is connected to
[18:19] <jonathan__> Apr 15 19:05:45 Kubuntu-7 kernel: [13969.673267] usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 31
[18:22] <Teo-> how can i add 4 workspaces to use compiz cube ??
[18:24] <mavi_> salve a tutti
[18:26] <jussio1> !it | mavi_
[18:26] <ubotu> mavi_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:27] <BudgetDedicated> I've just installed hardy, created two empty partitions after install with type FD (raid autodetect) on sda3 and sdb3. Modules for MD and Raid1 are loaded but still I do not get a /dev/md0 to create the raid with. What could be the problem?
[18:31] <BudgetDedicated> never mind just had mdadm create the device for me. lets hope it 'sticks'
[18:31] <sola> help please,i downloaded kubuntu 7.10 desktop iso image and booted m/c with burnt disc..its reporting critic error and prompting for username & password (live cd) , any default login details to enter inside
[18:31] <flipstar> is there a way to limit the .thumbnails/ size ?
[18:33] <flipstar> sola: the disc is maybe damaged..did you checked it ?
[18:37] <sola> flipstar, ok disc may be corrupted...i would like to know any way to enter with default login details...else will reburn the disc & try
[18:37] <KrazyWolf> Sup guys
[18:38] <flipstar> sola: it should autologin..login name is:ubuntu, password: none (no password)
[18:38] <KrazyWolf> How do you register your name on irc?
[18:38] <flipstar> !register
[18:38] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[18:38] <KrazyWolf> that doesn't help, flipstar
[18:38] <KrazyWolf> i know how to get a nick, i forgot how to register it
[18:38] <flipstar> i thought it would
[18:38] <KrazyWolf> Thanks for the try :)
[18:39] <flipstar>  /msg nickserv <nick> passwd or so
[18:39] <sola> flipstar, thank you, will try once and leave
[18:39] <flipstar> KrazyWolf: /msg nickserv register <your-password>
[18:40] <KrazyWolf> Thank you :)
[18:40] <KrazyWolf> Now to the real issue
[18:40] <stdin> KrazyWolf: you know that information was on http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[18:41] <KrazyWolf> i googled it but flipstar beat me to it
[18:41] <stdin> it was the link ubotu gave, the one you said dosen't help
[18:42] <KrazyWolf> I got wubi last night that installs linux on the machien as a dual boot type of thing, it was suppose to uninstall like any other program off the add/remove program option, well when I boot my computer I get the vista boot manager asking which OS to boot, I have Vista, and I don't know how to remove it! I tried to run the vista dvd and do a bootrec.exe /fixboot and a /fixmbr but it didn't take it away
[18:42] <sola> flipstar, if you dont mind have another issue, i am running ubuntu gnome version, but no suff space to install kde files, is there any way to redirect apt-get/ aptitude to redirect installation to custom location (mounted path of another partition) than default, if  this issue can be overcome will be of great helpful to me
[18:42] <KrazyWolf> stdin, I saw the "type /nick nickname" command and thats not what i wanted, Big whoop, I figured it out thanks to flipstar
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[18:43] <stdin> you need to read what is given if you want help
[18:43] <KrazyWolf> stdin, I get the point
[18:43] <KrazyWolf> stdin,  your the only one that is complaning about it when it was a conversation between me and flipstar, its not that big of a deal, put a smile obn
[18:44] <stdin> to remove vista you have to format the partition with it on, after making sure to install grub to the mbr
[18:44] <flipstar> sola: thats very complicated..it would probably easier to try to resize the partition from a livecd..(after a backup of corse)
[18:44] <KrazyWolf> stdin, I don't need to remove vista, I need to remove the boot option of loading kubuntu when my computer boots up
[18:45] <stdin> ahh, that's would probably be in C:\boot.list (or similar)
[18:45] <stdin> try ##windows for the exact name (it's a "hidden" file by default)
[18:46] <sola> flipstar, ok will maintain a separate copy of kubuntu then...thank you
[18:46] <KrazyWolf> stdin, you know when you dual boot, and you get that boot manager giving you a time to select which OS you want to choose before it timesout to default? well I still have kubuntu-kde and kubuntu for some reason listed even after i uninstalled kubuntu through my add/remove programs like the program wubi stated it does
[18:46] <flipstar> sola: or you could try to chroot into it from a cd and then uninstall ubuntu-desktop, install kubuntu-desktop
[18:46] <KrazyWolf> stdin, I did some research online, but I find it a big confusing, it tells me to do some weird bcdedit commands because vista doesn't have a boot.ini file anymore
[18:46] <stdin> it's C:\boot.(something) anyway
[18:46] <flipstar> sola: but thats probably risky
[18:46] <stdin> ahh, well
[18:47] <sola> flipstar, but still present partition size(4 GB) is too small, i am planning kubuntu(kde3.5) then build kde4 on top of that
[18:47] <KrazyWolf> stdin, nad I thought running the vista recovery and doing a fixboot and fixmbr command would remove the kubuntu options but it isn't
[18:48] <KrazyWolf> stdin, the only reason I'm still on vista is because kubuntu refuses to work for me, i get the no screen fatal error message during its attempt to boot x
[18:48] <flipstar> sola: right..thats very small for kde3+4
[18:48] <sola> flipstar, got some idea, think its safe...using partimage will backup present ubuntu desktop, will go to bigger partition and restore there
[18:49] <flipstar> when it doesnt save partition information..sure
[18:49] <sola> flipstar, i got this clue from your backup, resize suggestion
[18:49] <stdin> KrazyWolf: according to http://www.vistabootpro.org/ they changed it in vista to be some command prompt command, you can either try using the tool on that page to try the command yourself
[18:50] <flipstar> sola: backup is only for security..the resizing shouldn't destroy data at all
[18:53] <KrazyWolf> stdin, I'm getting an error message with that program saying it can't find Vista or its installed on a hidden drive... ??????? lol
[18:54] <IS> hi
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[18:56] <KrazyWolf> Real-mode Boot Sector
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> ---------------------
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> identifier              {c176cbe3-0a9d-11dd-9718-00508d9f5144}
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> device                  partition=C:
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> path                    \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> description             Kubuntu-KDE4
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> Real-mode Boot Sector
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> ---------------------
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> identifier              {c176cbe4-0a9d-11dd-9718-00508d9f5144}
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> device                  partition=C:
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> path                    \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> description             Kubuntu
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> That's what I need to delete!
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> But I can't figure how!!
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> That path doesn't exist anymore
[18:56] <flipstar> !paste | KrazyWolf
[18:56] <ubotu> KrazyWolf: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:57] <IS> you don`t use KDE?
[18:57] <IS> anymore
[18:58] <KrazyWolf> I don't use anytype of kubuntu anymore, I installed a wierd thing called wubi that does some dual boot thing, and when i uninstalled kubuntu from my computer through add/remove like it told me to do, it still shows up as an option to boot when i turn on my computer, and I'm running vista so that whole bcdedit thing is mad confusing and this vistabootpro isn't showing them
[18:58] <IS> yeah they kick you if you flood they did it to me once before i relized i posted the wrong thing
[18:59] <KrazyWolf> Only when I look at my BCD Registery Settings
[19:00] <IS> i can ask someone about it later like ten, but i`m not sure never used wubi???
[19:01] <IS> i could log back in tonight if i remember
[19:04] <KrazyWolf> Ya I don't know, even when I delete the entrys in my bcd file it still shows up by itself some how
[19:06] <IS> yeah might not have uninsalled whole file
[19:07] <IS> i gotta go srry ttyl
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[19:33] <mavi_> ciao
[19:33] <mavi_> ciao
[19:34] <jussi01> !it | mavi_
[19:34] <ubotu> mavi_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:42] <feierfox> please recomment a PDF viewer!
[19:42] <llutz> kpdf
[19:42] <dthacker-work> feierfox: kpdf
[19:43] <cichy> Hi, I encountred problem with Adept Updater - status for some packages is "upgradable", but cannot upgrade
[19:45] <eagles0513875> cichy: r u using adept or a command line interface
[19:47] <FrauHansen> hi, did someone else notice the problem with libarts1-xine and mplayerthumbs?
[19:47] <cichy> these packages are from medibuntu
[19:47] <cichy> does anyone know solution?
[19:47] <cichy> After requesting upgrade explicitely, it says BREAK(upgrade)
[19:47] <djdarkman> Hi I`m developing a web app in php can someone recomend me a good lightweight mail server wich works automaticly with the php mail() function?
[19:47] <FrauHansen> i can only have one of them installed, when i install the respective other, the installed one gets removed
[19:51] <cichy> no one using medibuntu source?
[19:58] <flipstar> FrauHansen: that's how it should be
[19:58] <flipstar> they conflicting each other
[19:59] <FrauHansen> flipstar: thats sad :(  amarok without arts is a desaster and xine-preview is ugly (only 1st frame ?!)
[20:00] <flipstar> maybe try ffmpegthumbnailer or so
[20:00] <FrauHansen> i'll give it a shot. is it in the repo?
[20:01] <flipstar> yep
[20:01] <flipstar> in universe
[20:01] <user1> Could not load the Host USB Proxy Service (VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND). The service might be not installed on the host computer.a  using ubuntu, virtualbox
[20:02] <llutz> user1: enable usbfs, use google how
[20:02] <user1> k
[20:03] <FrauHansen> flipstar: thanks
[20:03] <PhilRod> FrauHansen: "amarok without arts is a desaster"?! Shurely shome mishtake?
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[20:04] <llutz> i don't like amarok, but it definetly don't need arts
[20:05] <emilsedgh> how could you dont like amarok!
[20:05] <eagles0513875> i love amarok
[20:05] <eagles0513875> and im using alsa on my machine
[20:05] <emilsedgh> there are actually two kinds ow human beings, those who love amarok, and those who have never heard of it
[20:06] <FrauHansen> well without it i have to kill artsd before amarok plays back any music (amarok/xine using alsa btw)
[20:07] <llutz> emilsedgh: 3, ... and those who just don't like it
[20:08] <emilsedgh> llutz: no no, not acceptable
[20:16] <flipstar> i know of amarok but purged it as fast as i could :)
[20:17] <flipstar> now using audacious instead
[20:17] <emilsedgh> so the third type is 3)who know amarok, but have not discovered how cool it is
[20:19] <flipstar> i fully discovered it before that
[20:19] <flipstar> it was just not what i wanted
[20:19] <llutz> emilsedgh: most of the time it crashes before i discover it's coolness
[20:20]  * emilsedgh is getting depressed
[20:20] <harmental> hey guys...is there any good software to make vide screen captions?
[20:20] <flipstar> emilsedgh: try audacious and you'll feel better :)
[20:20] <emilsedgh> harmental: try wink
[20:20] <llutz> harmental: recordmydesktop
[20:21] <emilsedgh> oh, right, wink is for tutorials
[20:22] <harmental> emil and llutz: thx u guys
[20:25] <oem> hallo
[20:33] <dthacker-work> !hi | oem
[20:33] <ubotu> oem: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[20:34]  * dthacker-work hugs his amarok
[20:34] <mark_> im using pygame in linux and the code" pygame.image.load " come back with an erreo that the file cannot be opened is there a different code for loading images when in linux
[20:35] <phoenixz> I have this music symbol in the system tray, it does not have a menu or identification.. How can I find out what this is, and / or get rid of it?
[20:35] <dthacker-work> phoenixz: right click does what?
[20:36]  * dthacker-work loses interest and wanders away......
[20:38] <phoenixz> dthacker-work> nuttin...
[20:38] <phoenixz> woah, bit of patience there please :) I'm attending some 20 persons here..
[20:39] <trappist> how hard is it to cross-compile for amd64 from an i386 install?
[20:41] <phoenixz> dthacker-work> sorry for the "slow" response of 2 mins there but do you have a clue about this problem?
[20:53] <TimS> Netsplit :o
[20:53] <Ketrel> Is there any risk of using Synaptec rather than Adept?
[20:53] <stdin> no
[20:54] <KrazyWolf> Hey guys
[20:54] <KrazyWolf> I just did a fresh install of kubuntu on my laptop, and everything went well, but I'm wondering how do I get drivers for my wireless card?
[20:55] <KrazyWolf> Anyone
[20:56] <dthacker-work> what kind of wireless card?
[20:59] <dthacker-work> phoenixz: I'm at work too :), without seeing the icon it's hard to tell what its for.  Your're description does not match anything I'm familiar with.
[20:59] <dthacker-work> !wireless | KrazyWolf
[20:59] <ubotu> KrazyWolf: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:00] <phoenixz> dthacker-work> on phone, mom
[21:01] <KrazyWolf> how else would I figure out what drivers wern't installed?
[21:02] <jhutchins_wk> Ok, ther are no devices configured in xorg.conf.  Where is kubuntu storing the config (and why is it breaking the standard)?
[21:02] <KrazyWolf> I'm in some window called "Configure "KDE CONTROL MODULE" and it shows my network interfaces, and it shows my eth0 has wired and it sees eth1 but it won't enable, everytime i click on enable it go back to disabled
[21:03] <lovre> i need help. Can someone tell me how to connect to the network with wpa_supplicant? It is on Asus eee pc, the os is xandros. Please help.. i know this chan is kubuntu, but i need help
[21:04] <terettes15> can i get a couple of names for mp3 converters?
[21:05] <llutz> terettes15: just one: lame ;)
[21:06] <terettes15> thank you
[21:07] <zerge> is there a way to make the kde menu sections to expand to the left? I got my kde panel on the right, and when the sections expand over the menu itself it annoys me
[21:08] <KrazyWolf> How do I run the update?
[21:08] <KrazyWolf> because I did the install without network connection
[21:08] <KrazyWolf> I open konqueror and it works, but how do I obtain additional updates for it or something?
[21:08] <zerge> KrazyWolf: you need to add repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list, then run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[21:09] <KrazyWolf> zerge, this is my first time EVER seeing linux, so you lost me
[21:09] <emilsedgh> KrazyWolf: adept
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> KrazyWolf: ah.... go into adept_manager->adept-> manage repositories
[21:09] <phoenixz> dthacker-work> on phone, mom
[21:09] <KrazyWolf> where the hell is adept? lol
[21:09] <KrazyWolf> do i have to run a command?
[21:10] <KrazyWolf> oh I see
[21:10] <eagles0513875> welcome back KrazyWolf
[21:10] <mavi_> it
[21:10] <KrazyWolf> Hey eagles0513875, thank you
[21:10] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: hows kubuntu treating u
[21:10] <mavi_> italian
[21:10] <KrazyWolf> I did a fresh install on my laptop and it works but I can't get my wireless to connect, but im thinking its probably cuz i did the install without net connection
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> !it
[21:10] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:10] <KrazyWolf> eagles0513875, so far im intimidated, don't know anything lol
[21:11] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: shouldnt matter
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> KrazyWolf: you have your laptop on ethernet now?
[21:11] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: do lspci for me and tell me what kinda card u got
[21:11] <KrazyWolf> ya I got it on ethernet
[21:12] <KrazyWolf> eagles0513875, when i run go to run command and type lspci
[21:12] <KrazyWolf> nothing happens
[21:12] <eagles0513875> open up konsole
[21:13] <KrazyWolf> okay
[21:13] <KrazyWolf> Broadcom corp bcm4306
[21:13] <nosrednaekim> yech :(
[21:13]  * dthacker-work hums the fwcutter theme song
[21:13] <KrazyWolf> its an old compaq machine
[21:15] <popojijo> i heard ubuntu has a usability team (that tries to make ubuntu user friendly), is that right? and is there one for kubuntu?
[21:17] <KrazyWolf> eagles0513875?
[21:17] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: what model compaq
[21:17] <eagles0513875> im on a compac pesario r4000 series
[21:18] <_myrtille_> popojijo: i think there's a usability team for kde but not for kubuntu
[21:18] <slkfskdlf> hey if something is LGPL and I modify the source and distribute it with my close source commercial app. I only have to give them the modified source of the LGPL thing right? and I don't have any other legal issues?
[21:18] <_myrtille_> but i'm not sure
[21:19] <KrazyWolf> R3000
[21:19] <KrazyWolf> So how do I get my wifi to work
[21:19] <popojijo> martalli: is that part of kde project or ubuntu project?
[21:20] <KrazyWolf> I did a command the "sudo lshw -C network"
[21:20] <KrazyWolf> and it lists my wireless card and says I have drivers, but its disabled for some reason, and everytime I go to enable it it keeps going back to disabled
[21:20] <nosrednaekim> popojijo: yeah, kubuntu has a usability contact, do you have a problem?
[21:22] <KrazyWolf> No one can help?
[21:22] <popojijo> nosrednaekim: well, is a person or a team? because id like to join it, or give some input
[21:22] <KubuntuJack> what is the problem ?  I'm no expert but had no problem...
[21:23] <popojijo> it's related to kde4
[21:23] <popojijo> i don't use kde3
[21:23] <nosrednaekim> !wireless
[21:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:23] <flipstar> is there a way to limit the .thumbnails/ ?
[21:24] <KubuntuJack> I'd hold off on kde 4 for a while..
[21:24] <nosrednaekim> popojijo: I'm not sure if there is a useability team for kubuntu, but if its a KDE4 issue, definately talk to the KDE usability team
[21:24] <KrazyWolf> nosrednaekim, that doesn't help me on why the device keeps turning off when i try to enable it
[21:24] <popojijo> nosrednaekim: where can i find them?
[21:24] <nosrednaekim> !laptop
[21:24] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[21:26] <nosrednaekim> popojijo: just a sec
[21:28] <DarkriftX> whats the 'name' for 7.10 again?
[21:29] <nosrednaekim> popojijo: http://usability.kde.org/
[21:29] <nosrednaekim> DarkriftX: gutsy gibbon
[21:29] <DarkriftX> ty
[21:31] <ibert> Help!my kmail deleted all my emails in my IMAP-Inbox when it crashed. Any idea how I can get the mails back?
[21:31] <fdoving> ouch.
[21:31] <DarkriftX> ok, i added 'deb http://www.virtualbox.org/debian gutsy non-free ' to my sources.list and im getting an error about the public key. the page that tells me to add this source says nothing about hte key, what can i do?
[21:33] <coggz> i have a nokia 6680 (60 series) and i use ObexTool 0.33, what better tools are there
[21:35] <ibert> does nobody know a tool available in kubuntu to recover accientienly deleted files?
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[21:36] <flipstar> ibert: on ext3 ?
[21:36] <ibert> yes
[21:37] <llutz> bad luck
[21:37] <eagles0513875> whats the command to start compiz
[21:37] <eagles0513875> !bluetooth | coggz
[21:37] <ubotu> coggz: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[21:37] <ibert> shit
[21:37] <eagles0513875> coggz: someone was in dev channel this am complaining of obex issues u on kde4
[21:37] <flipstar> ibert: maybe try friendly-recovery or magicrescue
[21:38] <ibert> i'll check it out
[21:38] <coggz> eagles0513875: i have it working, via cable, i just want nicer interface
[21:38] <ibert> flipstar: they aren't in kubuntu :-(
[21:38] <KrazyWolf> Do I have to like set my network settings in order for the wifi to work?
[21:38] <eagles0513875> obex if ur on kde4 i dont think there has been a port of that app to kde4 yet
[21:38] <sourcemaker_> Can I use the SAP GUI for java in Kubuntu?
[21:39] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: depends if ur connecting to a secure network
[21:39] <KrazyWolf> I don't even know if wifi is working
[21:39] <KrazyWolf> It's not even detecting anything or I don't even know lol
[21:39] <KrazyWolf> This is so confusing
[21:39] <flipstar> ibert: you have to enable the universe repository for that
[21:39] <coggz> what is your laptop KrazyWolf?
[21:39] <KrazyWolf> Compaq Presario R3000'
[21:39] <flipstar> ibert: or ask your isp if he still has the mail's
[21:40] <KrazyWolf> I don't even know what to do or where to start lol
[21:40] <coggz> KrazyWolf: is that the broadcom driver?
[21:40] <KrazyWolf> yea
[21:40] <coggz> !!!
[21:41] <KrazyWolf> I already have the broadcom drivers
[21:41] <coggz> ok, i had that problem
[21:41] <ibert> flipstar: uniserse is on..
[21:41] <coggz> and i fixed it
[21:41] <ibert> flipstar: but magicrescue isn'there
[21:41] <coggz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[21:41] <ibert> but thanks anyway.
[21:41] <coggz> follow exactly
[21:41] <coggz> works
[21:41] <flipstar> ibert: you have to update first after enabling ..
[21:42] <KrazyWolf> I have gutsy
[21:42] <coggz> same
[21:42] <coggz> it still works perfectly
[21:42] <coggz> it is the only guide that i found worked, with 'no fluff'
[21:43] <KrazyWolf> coggz, this is my first time ever being exposed to linux
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[21:43] <KrazyWolf> That tut doesn't look to friendly to first time users
[21:43] <mcbrandt_> agree ;)
[21:44] <coggz> it is easy to follow, i was total n00b, needing wireless on first linux experience
[21:45] <coggz> 3 steps, 2nd one depends on model
[21:50] <ibert> flipstar: thanks
[21:51] <flipstar> it worked ?
[21:51] <coggz> is it working? KrazyWolf
[21:52] <KrazyWolf> coggz, im doing ito n my laptop
[21:52] <KrazyWolf> but after i do that ftp command
[21:52] <KrazyWolf> it stays on "resolving ftp.compaq.com
[21:53] <coggz> it needs ethernet cable
[21:53] <KrazyWolf> lmfao
[21:53] <coggz> u did that?
[21:53] <KrazyWolf> now i did lol
[21:53] <coggz> lol, u need internet to set it up... crazy but a must
[21:54] <KrazyWolf> i gotta start over again huh
[21:54] <coggz> ...
[21:54] <coggz> lol
[21:54] <coggz> it does work when u do it right
[21:54] <coggz> lol
[21:56] <KrazyWolf> when i do
[21:56] <flipstar> any nice apache monitor's for gkrellm/kicker/desktop ?
[21:56] <KrazyWolf> whoops sorry, when i do "sudo apt-get install cabextract"
[21:56] <KrazyWolf> it says E: couldn't find package cabextract
[21:57] <flipstar> !info cabextract
[21:57] <ubotu> cabextract (source: cabextract): a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-2 (gutsy), package size 52 kB, installed size 184 kB
[21:57] <flipstar> its in universe KrazyWolf
[21:57] <KrazyWolf> which is?
[21:58] <flipstar> goto adept->edit software sources
[21:58] <flipstar> and enable universe
[21:58] <coggz> !nokia
[21:58] <ubotu> Guides for smartphones and portable devices can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/
[21:58] <pcg|Raven-CSS> i cant get envy to work can someone help??
[21:59] <KrazyWolf> when i go to adept manager and go adept its only fetch updates and manage repositories
[21:59] <sourcemaker_> are you using already kde4?
[21:59] <KrazyWolf> ohhh i see! its teh community-maintained open source software
[21:59] <KrazyWolf> I got it
[21:59] <zorroloko> hey
[21:59] <pcg|Raven-CSS> i cant get envy to work can someone help??
[22:00] <flipstar> !envy | pcg|Raven-CSS
[22:00] <ubotu> pcg|Raven-CSS: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[22:00] <zorroloko> que hable castellano no hay nadie no?
[22:02] <Odd-rationale> !es | zorroloko
[22:02] <ubotu> zorroloko: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:02] <pcg|Raven-CSS> how do i tell what version of Ubuntu i have??
[22:02] <Odd-rationale> !version
[22:02] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[22:03] <coggz> KrazyWolf: how u getting on?
[22:03] <CN> hi all
[22:04] <CN> i am new around here, and i'm having some problems
[22:04] <Odd-rationale> CN: sure. just aks
[22:04] <flipstar> anyone know a faster image indexer than 'imageindex' ? im waiting several hours now :/
[22:05] <KrazyWolf> coggz, im getting a "couldn't open bcmw15.infi" at step 3?
[22:05] <KrazyWolf> do i have to go back to root or something?
[22:05] <KrazyWolf> cuz im still in that bcm43xx folder
[22:05] <CN> ok. when i try to update my kubuntu or install something by the console
[22:05] <CN> i always get one error
[22:05] <KrazyWolf> nvm now its saying driver bcmw15 is already isntalled
[22:05] <Odd-rationale> CN: what does it say?
[22:06] <coggz> hmm
[22:06] <zorroloko> porque falla tanto totem?
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[22:07] <CN> E: O pacote flashplugin-nonfree não tem candidato para instalação
[22:07] <KrazyWolf> okay coggz, now when i do ndiswrapper -l
[22:07] <KrazyWolf> I get a invalid driver
[22:07] <Odd-rationale> CN: english, please?
[22:07] <coggz> oh,
[22:07] <KrazyWolf> I get a bcmw15 invalid driver adn a lsbcmnds invalid driver
[22:07] <CN> E: the package fllashplugin-nonfree does not have permition to install
[22:08] <Odd-rationale> CN: try this: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[22:08] <CN> kk
[22:09] <coggz> ok, did u sudo the last step?
[22:09] <KrazyWolf> ya i did sudo ndiswripper -i bcmw15.inf
[22:09] <KrazyWolf> so it says driver bcmw15 is already installed
[22:10] <coggz> ok, how long ago di u put kubuntu on?
[22:10] <KrazyWolf> than when i do the ndiswrapper -l command I get bcmw15: invalid driver, lsbcmnds: invalid driver
[22:10] <KrazyWolf> Like an hour ago
[22:10] <KrazyWolf> first time ever
[22:10] <coggz> ok, did u try other methods?
[22:10] <KrazyWolf> what other methods?
[22:11] <KrazyWolf> nope, this is the only time I've done something
[22:11] <CN> it says flashplugin-nonfree isn't actually installed, so any package was installed , remover
[22:11] <coggz> hmm, good.
[22:11] <KrazyWolf> I even went to like restricted drivers thingie and installed the firmware on it
[22:11] <coggz> ah
[22:11] <KrazyWolf> i followed another tut on how to do that
[22:11] <coggz> undo that
[22:11] <KrazyWolf> the firmware?
[22:11] <coggz> yes
[22:11] <KrazyWolf> ok
[22:12] <KrazyWolf> now what?
[22:12] <KrazyWolf> retry the ndiswrapper -l ?
[22:12] <coggz> yes
[22:12] <KrazyWolf> same thing
[22:12] <Odd-rationale> hmm. does anyone know if the flash package is broken again? It was updated not to long ago...
[22:12] <KrazyWolf> invalid
[22:12] <coggz> reboot and try, its a pain
[22:12] <Odd-rationale> CN: try "sudo aptitude purge flashplugin-nonfree"
[22:12] <KrazyWolf> k
[22:12] <KrazyWolf> oh crap
[22:13] <KrazyWolf> that means i have to start all over!
[22:13] <KrazyWolf> lol
[22:13] <CN> Odd-rationale olha que argumentro e ke kant usa para justificar que mentir é smpre uma acçao contraria ao dever??
[22:13] <KrazyWolf> my gf is going to kill me, she is waiting for me to get ready so we cna leave lol
[22:13] <CN> sry for double message
[22:13] <Odd-rationale> !es | cn
[22:13] <ubotu> cn: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:13] <KrazyWolf> its been almost two hours almost me trying to fix this
[22:13] <coggz> lol
[22:13] <eagles0513875> Odd-rationale: i think thats portugese
[22:13] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: come back to it tomorrow
[22:13] <Odd-rationale> !pt | CN
[22:13] <ubotu> CN: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[22:13] <coggz> took me a week, then i found that guide, took 5mins
[22:13] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: ull be amazed at how coming back to things helps
[22:13] <Odd-rationale> eagles0513875: :?
[22:14] <Odd-rationale> KrazyWolf: was it ever working?
[22:14] <KrazyWolf> eagles0513875, I'm going to have to lol, I have a huge project due next week and so much homework so iunno
[22:14] <KrazyWolf> Odd-rationale, what? for kubuntu? this is first time ever running linux on my machine
[22:14] <KrazyWolf> the wireless use to work without problems for windows
[22:14] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: u have us here to help lol
[22:14] <Odd-rationale> KrazyWolf: your wireless card. what chipset is it?
[22:14] <coggz> i know, i put kubuntu on my dell
[22:15] <CN> it gives me the same mistake
[22:15] <KrazyWolf> broadcom 4306
[22:15] <coggz> same BCMxx crap
[22:15] <flipstar> omg indexing is at 'c' of 'a-z' and its running 5hours now ://
[22:15] <Odd-rationale> KrazyWolf: I got both of my broadcom working with bcm43xx-fwcutter ndiswrapper did not work for me...
[22:15] <flipstar> seems like it'll take a month @_@
[22:15] <coggz> has it rebooted?
[22:16] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: i have tha tcard and it works outa box for me
[22:16] <KrazyWolf> I don't think I rebooted after I did that firmware thing
[22:16] <CN> Odd-rationale: it gives me the same mistake
[22:16] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: go to k menu then system
[22:16] <KrazyWolf> k
[22:16] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: reboot and it should and will work
[22:17] <coggz> firemware thing is crap, 11mbps and the range... well i hope you dont mind stitting near your router
[22:17] <eagles0513875> coggz: i havent had any problems coggz u werent having an obex issues were u transferring stuff from ur phone
[22:18] <coggz> ?
[22:18] <KrazyWolf> imma try to reboot
[22:18] <Odd-rationale> CN: try your language's channel. they may be able to help you out beeter.
[22:18] <KrazyWolf> I just redid the firmware
[22:18] <KrazyWolf> and im going to hang it up for the day
[22:18] <eagles0513875> coggz: were u talking bout a nokia and obex
[22:18] <KrazyWolf> my gf is gonna murder me lol
[22:18] <coggz> oh, yea, i got a program
[22:19] <coggz> obextools gui is nasty
[22:19] <eagles0513875> coggz: this might also interest u
[22:19] <eagles0513875> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebluetooth/+bug/217696
[22:19] <coggz> Qnokiacommander 0.5 is good
[22:19] <KrazyWolf> is it normal for the screen to stay black during boot?
[22:19] <coggz> i have no bluetooth
[22:19] <KrazyWolf> and than it flashes some text and than goes to login?
[22:19] <coggz> KrazyWolf: you have ati?
[22:19] <KrazyWolf> yes
[22:19] <Odd-rationale> KrazyWolf: for me. yes
[22:20] <coggz> ok,
[22:20] <coggz> 1 mo
[22:20]  * Mr_Pan is away: Sono occupato
[22:20] <eagles0513875> !it | Mr_Pan
[22:20] <ubotu> Mr_Pan: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[22:20] <KrazyWolf> lol now it doesn't even show my device nemore under network
[22:21] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: call it a day dude we dont wanna be held responsible for ur murder lol
[22:21] <Odd-rationale> KrazyWolf: did you try using fwcutter instead of ndiswrapper?
[22:22] <KrazyWolf> Odd-rationale, I did that fwcutter package install, and than went to me restriced drivers and installed firmware and used a local file that i downloaded off a tut
[22:22] <Mr_Pan> eagles0513875, sorry it's my away messagge in italian only ......
[22:22] <coggz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=337932 for bootscreen KrazyWolf
[22:22] <eagles0513875> Mr_Pan: its ok thats a my bad then
[22:23] <KrazyWolf> Thx coggz
[22:23] <KrazyWolf> When I go to adept installer, nothing is checked anymore lol
[22:23] <KrazyWolf> I think I screwed things up big time
[22:24] <coggz> reinstall.. lol
[22:24] <KrazyWolf> ya im an idiot lol
[22:24] <desirix> lol
[22:24] <desirix> what a conversation *g
[22:24] <KrazyWolf> I don't even know if i want to have ubuntu anymore
[22:24] <KrazyWolf> so much headache already
[22:24] <KrazyWolf> I don't even know how to look at a "my computer" type of thing
[22:25] <KrazyWolf> or nething lol
[22:25] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: try kubuntu thats what im on
[22:25] <desirix> yes kubuntu is really nice
[22:25] <KrazyWolf> That's what i installed
[22:25] <eagles0513875> u said ubuntu
[22:25] <eagles0513875> there is a minor difference between the 2
[22:25] <desirix> yes kde :)
[22:25] <coggz> i love it now it works, it can be a pain at first - especially for our broadcom chips -
[22:25] <KrazyWolf> ya I know i forgot the K
[22:25] <KrazyWolf> I don't even know how to get the start.exe to run so i can reinstall it!
[22:25] <KrazyWolf> lol
[22:25] <eagles0513875> coggz: lol i hear ya it used to be a pain for my ati card but not any more not even for my broadcom
[22:26] <KrazyWolf> How do I get the start.exe on the kubuntu livecd to run?
[22:26] <KrazyWolf> when i doule click i get a open with window
[22:26] <Odd-rationale> KrazyWolf: you need to be in windows to use the start.exe
[22:27] <coggz> yep, all sorted. im still a n00b at linux, but i got a fully functioning linux tablet pc, a broadcom infested Dell, and an old machine running compiz
[22:27] <KrazyWolf> jesus
[22:27] <basso> hey folks!
[22:27] <KrazyWolf> lol im not liking this at all
[22:27] <basso> i made a big bobo..!
[22:27] <basso> I deleted my KDE4 "Taskbar".. how the heck can i restore it..?
[22:27] <KrazyWolf> I quit for now
[22:27] <Odd-rationale> KrazyWolf: are you dual booting that machine?
[22:27] <KrazyWolf> Thanks for the help guys, I'll be back later
[22:27] <coggz> kk
[22:27] <KrazyWolf> No Odd-rationale, I did a fresh install
[22:27] <coggz> cya round
[22:27] <KrazyWolf> but ill be back guys, def need some serious help with this lol
[22:27] <Odd-rationale> KrazyWolf: then just boot the cd a reinstall
[22:27] <KrazyWolf> Thanks guys, see ya soon
[22:28] <eagles0513875> later _krawek_
[22:28] <eagles0513875> sry wrong person
[22:28] <coggz> i like my tablet pc
[22:28] <eagles0513875> coggz: make and model
[22:28] <coggz> Acer Travelmate C111TCi
[22:28] <eagles0513875> nice
[22:28] <coggz> older
[22:28] <coggz> £150
[22:28] <eagles0513875> i have an hp tablet tx1308nr got in december cant get kubuntu on it
[22:29] <basso> i got a crappy Fuji T4010D.. and i hate it
[22:29] <eagles0513875> the machine im on now is an old compaq pesario r4000
[22:29] <crimsun> win 25
[22:29] <Odd-rationale> coggz: kool. i got a tablet too: toshiba tecra m4
[22:29] <coggz> how much u all pay?
[22:29] <basso> so no one knows how you can add a new "taskbar" in kde4?
[22:30] <coggz> !kde4
[22:30] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.3.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:30] <eagles0513875> 1000 usd and that included a 1gb to 2gb ddr2 667mhz duel channel ram
[22:30] <eagles0513875> upgrade
[22:30] <coggz> cool
[22:30] <eagles0513875> ya and just got vista ultimate x64
[22:30] <Odd-rationale> coggz: got mine free. my dad's old computer he got from work...
[22:30] <coggz> 1ghz Centrino, 512ram, bluetooth, infrared, wireless...
[22:31] <coggz> second hand from a computer recycling center
[22:31] <eagles0513875> both my laptops have no bluetooth
[22:31] <coggz> stylii are a pain for it though
[22:31] <basso> i got.. 1.6ghz p4, 1 gig ddr1 ram, bt, infr, wireless, and offcourse, a heatbomb
[22:31] <Odd-rationale> konversation has this cool /sysinfo script
[22:31] <Odd-rationale> Sysinfo for 'ddatabuntu': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)Mprocessor1.86GHz at 800 MHz (1603 bogomips), , RAM: 670/2027MB, 124 proc's, 7.35h up
[22:31] <coggz> heatbomb?
[22:31] <coggz> Sysinfo for 'luke-laptop': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz at 1700 MHz (3396 bogomips), HD: 38/53GB, RAM: 472/495MB, 146 proc's, 1.9h up
[22:32] <coggz> my dell
[22:32] <coggz> basso: what is heatbomb
[22:32] <ign0ramus> hey guys - i need help! i think i broke my linux!  -- my 5 month old install of 7.10 starting freezing right after "Running Local Boot Scripts" when starting up.  I was able to log into X by altering my /etc/event.d/tty* files, but I have to rig Kubuntu just to log in now!
[22:33] <coggz> !heatbomb
[22:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about heatbomb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:33] <ign0ramus> Is there a way to regenerate working files?
[22:33] <basso> heatbomb: A computer that generates enough heat so the owner refers it as the heatbomb
[22:34] <coggz> oh, lol
[22:34] <coggz> my old box ran at 70 oC
[22:34] <coggz> i got it down to 35 maxed out
[22:34] <Odd-rationale> mine was a heatbomb... until i took out all the dust...
[22:35] <coggz> getting a new camcorder tomorrow
[22:35] <coggz> JVC Hdd one, works on linux...
[22:35] <coggz> copy and paste video off it
[22:36] <eagles0513875> coggz: i was serving a wedding at my church and it was funny this guy who had an hd camcorder that records to the small dvds and it seems like it takes up less memory when set to hd then with regular mode
[22:36] <coggz> Do any of you guys know about or belong to the cdc
[22:37] <eagles0513875> cdc? the center for disease control
[22:37] <coggz> lol, this is not hd, records to hard drive
[22:37] <coggz> eagles0513875: no
[22:37] <SlimeyPete> crudely drawn c...
[22:37] <eagles0513875> lol
[22:37] <coggz> not quite, if you dont know, dont worry
[22:38] <SlimeyPete> you've made us curious now ;p
[22:38] <coggz> i want their irc key
[22:38] <coggz> it is Cult of the Dead Cow
[22:38] <coggz> largest hacking group
[22:39] <coggz> i want to find out when goolag will be ported to linux
[22:39] <coggz> still interested?
[22:39] <SlimeyPete> oh right, yeah I remember them
[22:39] <SlimeyPete> well, I remember hearing of them.
[22:39] <coggz> i want goolag, but it is windows only, and no wine
[22:40] <coggz> u good at porting software?
[22:40] <SlimeyPete> nah
[22:41] <SlimeyPete> never done it
[22:41] <coggz> ok, u know what goolag is?
[22:42] <eagles0513875> wtf is up with this http://ubuntuforums.org/g/images/259341/1_bill_gates_ubuntu_mini.jpg
[22:42] <coggz> lol
[22:43] <eagles0513875> thats classic
[22:46] <kausik> hello
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[22:47] <coggz> can i access windows protected folders using samba?
[22:47] <eagles0513875> samba works the other way round
[22:48] <eagles0513875> u can access windows machines without it but to save to linux based machines from windows u need samba
[22:49] <coggz> my school has "access denied" folders, can i access them?
[22:49] <eagles0513875> what kinda folders r they
[22:50] <coggz> access protected
[22:50] <eagles0513875> whats in em u wanna get at
[22:50] <coggz> i have student account, i want access to protected stuff.
[22:51] <stdin> samba don't give you access to things the server denies you access to
[22:51] <jeff__> hello
[22:51] <coggz> is there any simple way of gaining access?
[22:52] <stdin> we won't support/discuss techniques to gain unauthorised access to another system
[22:52] <flipstar> coggz: goolag is gnu afaik http://goolag.net/
[22:53] <coggz> afaik?
[22:53] <flipstar> as far as i know
[22:53] <eagles0513875> !afaik | coggz
[22:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about afaik - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:53] <eagles0513875> !info afaik | coggz
[22:53] <DamienGray> How do I get "unrar free"
[22:53] <ubotu> coggz: Package afaik does not exist in gutsy
[22:53] <rickest> DamienGray: apt-get install unrar
[22:53] <DamienGray> Thanks
[22:54] <coggz> flipstar, only windoze
[22:54] <rickest> DamienGray: technically that's a non-free version
[22:54] <flipstar> coggz: yes but they provide the source
[22:54] <rickest> DamienGray: apt-get install unrar-free
[22:54] <stdin> DamienGray: "apt-get install unrar-free"
[22:54] <DamienGray> Thanks.
[22:55] <DamienGray> Hm
[22:55] <DamienGray> It says it couldn't find the package.
[22:55] <coggz> oh, ya, but i cant port software -- can i?
[22:55] <coggz> can u?
[22:57] <jim> hey can any1 help with apt ?
[22:58] <JoshOvki> jim: whats the problem?
[22:58] <DamienGray> What do you need help with Jim?
[22:58] <coggz> ya jim go ahead
[22:58] <jeff__> ya coggz... I have the same problem
[22:58] <coggz> jeff__: y want goolag too?
[22:58] <coggz> you
[22:58] <jim> i was playing around with apt and tried to add a source and i buggered it up now i cant get it to work
[22:59] <stdin> jim: what error does apt give?
[22:59] <jim> this is what it says when i try to load it up
[22:59] <jim> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[22:59] <stdin> anything else?
[22:59] <JoshOvki> jm: did you try running them
[22:59] <jim> i initially tried to add a source and i think that THat was the problem
[23:00] <jim> yeh no luck
[23:00] <stdin> JoshOvki: they aren't commands on ubuntu
[23:00] <flipstar> coggz: if you cant do it by yourself you can ask these dude's to do so
[23:00] <stdin> jim: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[23:00] <jim> im runnuing Kubuntu
[23:00] <jim> how ?
[23:00] <stdin> !paste
[23:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:00] <jim> ok
[23:01] <coggz> flipstar: thats why i need the channel key
[23:01] <jim> jim@ubuntu:~$ !paste
[23:01] <jim> bash: !paste: event not found
[23:01] <coggz> i got in once, but they kicked me 3 times
[23:01] <flipstar> coggz: look on the website..
[23:01] <pteague> what app should i use to sync with my pda?
[23:01] <stdin> jim: read what ubotu said, ! is a command to it
[23:01] <coggz> flipstar: not there
[23:02] <coggz> secret channel
[23:03] <jim> Im lost
[23:04] <pteague> he wants his decoder ring
[23:05] <stdin> jim: open up your /etc/apt/sources.list and copy+paste into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, then paste the URL back here
[23:05] <LetsGo67> Here's the scenario: two computers are running Xubuntu 7.10 and they both have wireless cards.  I am using ndiswrapper on one, but not on the other.  The former has a signal strength of 4 bars, but the latter, only 1.  Both computers are at a 3 metre (10 feet) distance from the router.  How can I improve the non-ndiswrapper signal strength?
[23:07] <stdin> ndiswrapper is probably just reporting the strength wrong, is there any speed difference?
[23:08] <LetsGo67> stdin, if I move the router any router, it fails to connect.
[23:10] <stdin> LetsGo67: then it's just a side-effect of ndiswrapper, short of finding a native driver for linux, or replacing the wifi with a linux compatible one, there really isn't anything you can do about it
[23:10] <jim> i am having a bit of trouble but all i can see in the sources list is winehq and winehq save
[23:11] <LetsGo67> I am installing ndiswrapper, how can I discover the card model number without opening the PC?
[23:11] <stdin> jim: does adept work when you open it?
[23:11] <jim> no
[23:11] <jim> that error comes up
[23:12] <jim> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[23:12] <stdin> LetsGo67: usually "lspci|grep Ethernet" will show you
[23:12] <jim> i think i tried to to add xine or something as a source and fromthen on it didnt work
[23:12] <stdin> jim: ok, what version of kubuntu do you have?
[23:13] <jim> 7.10
[23:13] <LetsGo67> stdin, says "atheros"
[23:14] <stdin> LetsGo67: is that all?
[23:14] <jim> is there a linux program for dummies cause i think i  need 1
[23:14] <LetsGo67> I AM SO DUMB!  I FORGOT TO CONNECT THE ANTENNA!
[23:15] <JoshOvki> lol
[23:15] <karl_> anyone know of a video player i can resync a sound track on? it's just barely off.
[23:17] <jim> any luck stdin
[23:17] <stdin> jim: try replacing it with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63359/
[23:17] <stdin> karl_: mplayer can do it
[23:18] <LetsGo67> This is a dumb question, but I'd like an answer anyways, please.  Will plugging the antenna improve my signal?
[23:19] <karl_> depends on the antenna
[23:19] <stdin> karl_: btw, you'll need to open the list as root with "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" in order to save it
[23:19] <karl_> but probably
[23:19] <karl_> stdin: and why would i want to do that?
[23:19] <jim> stdin your gunna hate me but i dont understand
[23:19] <stdin> LetsGo67: almost definitely yes
[23:19] <jonathan__> hello!
[23:19] <LetsGo67> lol
[23:19] <stdin> karl_: meant that for jim actually, don't know why I put you ;)
[23:19] <LetsGo67> lo stdin
[23:20] <jonathan__> I tried to connect my externel hard-drive to my kubuntu-computer right now and got circa 10 (not one, TEN!) Windows that a external drive was connected and 10 Shortcuts on the desctop... whats the reason for that? :)
[23:21] <stdin> jim: press alt-f2 and put in "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" (no quotes), then enter your password. when kate opens up press Ctrl-A and then delete to delete it all, then copy and paste the lines I put in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63359/ into kate and save, apt/adept should then work
[23:22] <stdin> jonathan__: does it have 10 partitions or something?
[23:23] <jim> umm before i do that, i found the add on that i put before it stuffed up !! should i first try and delete it ??
[23:25] <stdin> jim: the way I said will delete it all for you
[23:25] <stdin> Ctrl-A + delete
[23:25] <jim> ok
[23:27] <jim> ok i did that
[23:27] <stdin> after you save it, try apt again
[23:28] <jonathan__> no, there are no 10 partitions :/
[23:28] <jonathan__> only one... big...
[23:29] <jim> Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
[23:29]  * jim dances
[23:29] <jim> hehehe Thanks stdin
[23:29] <jim> can i keep bugging you about a few more things or do you wanna break
[23:30] <stdin> you may as well, while I'm actually here
[23:30] <JoshOvki> stdin doesnt have breaks, he is like some incredable machiene that just keeps on going
[23:30] <jim> heheh
[23:30] <JoshOvki> :P
[23:30] <junior> alguem fala portugues ae
[23:30] <junior> ?
[23:30] <jim> ok i have a nvidia card and i clicked it to be enabled and when the system rebooted the screens resolution was massive and i couldnt change it
[23:31] <jim> so i just changed it back to how it was
[23:31] <stdin> !pt | junior
[23:31] <ubotu> junior: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:31] <jim> also i am dying to have the 3d effects on my computer
[23:31] <jim> brb 1 min
[23:32] <stdin> jim: I think you do that by installing the package "nvidia-settings", then setting it in there
[23:34] <arcticpenguin380> will kubuntu like my mandrivas /home?
[23:34] <jim> bak
[23:35] <jim> ok so i just go to apt and look for nvidia setting yet ?
[23:35] <jim> yeh
[23:35] <stdin> the package is called "nvidia-settings"
[23:36] <stdin> arcticpenguin380: depends on the versions of KDE both use, generally it'd be fine but it'd possible that whichever version is newer will write a value that the other doesn't understand
[23:37] <jim> do i still click system admin > restricted drivers > click admin mode then enable the nvidia card first ?
[23:37] <stdin> well you have to have the driver enabled to use that tool
[23:37] <stdin> you can do that before or after installing however
[23:38] <jim> ok
[23:39] <jim> umm i search for nvidia-settings on apt and there isnt anything there
[23:39] <jim> do i do a apt update or something ?
[23:39] <stdin> after adding new repos (or replacing them) yeah. you may want to change them to a local server though
[23:40] <stdin> like "au.archive.ubuntu.com"
[23:40] <jim> how do i do that
[23:42] <stdin> you can do it via adept, from Adept->Manage Repositories
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[23:43]  * Daisuke_Ido grumbles about ftp not properly recording macros
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[23:44] <Daisuke_Ido> i need to upload a file twice a day to a webserver, i figured a cron job that generates the file and uploads it would be the best option, but if ftp won't record the macro...
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[23:44] <Daisuke_Ido> !nickflood | morphi
[23:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickflood - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:45] <stdin> !nickspam | morphi
[23:45] <ubotu> morphi: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #kubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also /msg ubotu Guidelines
[23:45] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, fine, morphi.  decide on a nick already
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[23:45] <X9nLinux9> Hi guys!  Just finished installing Feisty on my old iMac.  Has gnome on it and I'd like to change to KDE.  Would greatly appreciate if someone would point me in the right direction!
[23:45] <Daisuke_Ido> stdin, am i even going about this the right way?
[23:46] <Dragnslcr> X9nLinux9- install the kubuntu-desktop package
[23:46] <PeterFA> I need to have IE[567] Installed. I'm a web developer.
[23:46] <PeterFA> anyone know a good site on this? I tried a few tricks like wine and this script installer, but nothing works.
[23:46] <stdin> !purekde | X9nLinux9 you can use this to remove gnome if other methods fail
[23:46] <ubotu> X9nLinux9 you can use this to remove gnome if other methods fail: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[23:46] <jim> ok i am in software sources where do i put in "au.archive.ubuntu.com"  ?
[23:46] <Daisuke_Ido> PeterFA, develop to standards rather than proprietary BS (alternatively, you can look for ies4linux or use a VM)
[23:47] <PeterFA> Daisuke_Ido, I just got to find the rendering bugs.
[23:47] <stdin> Daisuke_Ido: that's the way I'd do it, or use something list sftp (or rsync if I was clever)
[23:47] <stdin> jim: it should have a drop-down list at the bottom
[23:47] <Daisuke_Ido> stdin, the issue i'm running into is that ftp isn't recording my macros :\
[23:48] <X9nLinux9> The 'Add Remove' has lots of 'stuff' in it but it doesn't show KDE specifically.  I don't have aclue how to find KDE or remove Gnome.
[23:48] <stdin> I don't really ever use ftp any more (not to upload anyway)
[23:48] <Daisuke_Ido> X9nLinux9, Dragnslcr just told you exactly how to install kde.
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[23:49] <jim> ok there is nvidia gxl new thats not installed ! is that the one i click     ? cause thats the only one
[23:50] <stdin> jim: no, that's the driver, it's called "nvidia-settings" and it definitely exists
[23:50] <X9nLinux9> stdin Thanks!  So far that looks like a good start!
[23:50] <stdin> !info nvidia-settings
[23:50] <ubotu> nvidia-settings (source: nvidia-settings): Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0+20070502-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 675 kB, installed size 1616 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[23:50] <stdin> X9nLinux9: hope so, I wrote that myself ;)
[23:51] <level1> Hi, I sent some pdfs to my dad and he added some info and sent them back as .tif documents.  I cant find anything that can open a .tif... what sholud I do?
[23:51] <jim> ok mabie i am looking in the wrong area ! cause there is 2 nvidia things in there
[23:51] <level1> he made them using some microsoft product
[23:51] <jim> do i need to update to find it or something ?
[23:51] <stdin> jim: try making sure all the software sources are enabled in Manage Repositories (all the check boxes)
[23:52] <jim> yep they are all clicked
[23:52] <stdin> jim: then click "Fetch Updates"
[23:53] <stdin> level1: tif is an image, should open in most image viewers
[23:53] <Daisuke_Ido> unfortunately, tiff is a tricky beast :\
[23:53] <level1> stdin: apparently not these documents.  I tried firefox, gimp, gwenview, comix
[23:53] <level1> kpdf
[23:53] <level1> konqueror
[23:53] <stdin> level1: try okular
[23:53] <DamienGray> Does anyone know how to open "Tibia"? I clicked it, but it opens for a second and then closes
[23:53] <jhutchins_wk> Ok, so what's the most amazing video demo I can do on kubuntu?
[23:54] <jim> its downloading a heap of stuff now
[23:54] <jhutchins_wk> glxgears isn't really going to wow the average passerby.
[23:54] <level1> jhutchins_wk: compiz?
[23:54] <X9nLinux9> stdin: It seems to show how to remove gnome, but not how to get KDE in.  What am I missing?
[23:54] <jim> OK its there now :D
[23:54] <jhutchins_wk> level1: Well, I was hoping for something that would do it's tapdance without me.
[23:54] <jim> i just click it and install it now ye
[23:55] <jhutchins_wk> X9nLinux9: aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[23:55] <stdin> X9nLinux9: read the "Install Kubuntu" part ;)
[23:55] <level1> jhutchins_wk: you might be able to script compiz; or prerecord a session and replay it
[23:55] <Daisuke_Ido> again?
[23:55] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[23:55] <jhutchins_wk> (surely someone has done that.)
[23:55] <Daisuke_Ido> that's three
[23:57] <level1> Daisuke_Ido: what are you talknig about?
[23:57] <jim> ok stdin i have done that now do i enable the nvidia card and then reset the computer then go to nvidia settings and change it ye  ?
[23:57] <stdin> jim: should be as simple as that yeah
[23:57] <jim> ok cheers mate
[23:57] <jim> ill be back and let you know how i went
[23:58] <Daisuke_Ido> level1, just keeping track of how many times it'll take before someone realizes he's been given the answer already
[23:58] <geos> can someone help me with a kdevelop ui-subclassing-problem?
[23:59] <level1> Daisuke_Ido: who?
[23:59] <Daisuke_Ido> the guy asking about installing kde