2008/04/09/#kubuntu-devel.txt

[00:01] <awen_> ScottK: I'll fix what ever I can find
[00:01] <ScottK> I was joking about that last bit.  I'm sure you will.
[00:07] <awen_> ScottK: of course ... but we are (luckily) getting low on serious bugs
[00:08] <ScottK> Yeah.
[00:08] <ScottK> The biggest thing outstanding is my xorg discovery bit.
[00:09]  * ScottK goes to eat dinner.
[00:14] <awen_> g-p-m now displays consumtion rate: https://launchpad.net/~andreas-wenning/+archive
[00:15]  * awen_ is sorry... i know it won't go into hardy, but couldn't help it
[00:44] <awen_> goodnight
[00:46] <ScottK> awen_: Why not in Hardy?
[00:47] <awen_> ScottK: it will need some testing
[00:48] <ScottK> awen_: You've got ~24 hours
[00:49] <awen_> then it might be possible ... go test :)
[00:51] <awen_> I've changed 3 lines and added 4, and the worst that should happen is that the consumption display is wrong
[00:52] <ScottK> awen_: Does that package include your translation fix too?
[00:54] <awen_> ScottK: yeah, the one in the ppa does (just needed a quick test, and that was the version avaible to me)
[00:54] <ScottK> OK.
[00:55] <awen_> ScottK: you just need to collapse the two topmost changelog entries
[00:56]  * ScottK has $WORK to do first, but I'll try and have a look.
[00:57] <awen_> ScottK: of course ... I'll also ping nosrednaekim tomorrow; sounded like he was more than ready to test
[00:58] <ScottK> Of course that sounds like more fun than monthly reports and invoices ...
[00:59] <awen_> hehe
[01:00]  * awen_ is leaving for real now ... 'night all
[01:47] <blueyed> Is it ok to upload a new kde4libs, with a fix for bug 141418, or should I just add the debdiff for e.g. Riddel to look at it?
[01:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 141418 in kdelibs "klauncher crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141418
[01:48] <ScottK2> blueyed: Unless you've been involved in the kde4 packaging effort, I'd suggest waiting.
[01:49] <ScottK2> If you're confident, then I think it's not wrong to upload it.
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[02:06] <blueyed> Well, I'm not confident, and would like to see other patches get added to it before an upload. Therefore I've attached it.
[02:15] <ScottK> Fair enough
[02:18] <blueyed> But I will upload it, when it gets stalled there.. :)
[04:02] <pleaseandthankyo> is there a good diet softwares? like for a diabetes guy or a healthy living diet software for person who has heart d eases?
[04:02] <DASkreech> Looked at Krecipe?
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[13:36] <nixternal> mornin'
[13:36] <nareshov> yo
[13:41] <Jucato> yo nixternal!!
[13:43] <nixternal> yo yo yo
[13:44] <nareshov> =)
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[13:45] <Lure> Riddell: was there a problem with autostart of knetworkmanager? I have seen it installs autostart file by itself, that is why I removed our own rule...
[14:12] <ScottK> Riddell: I still have Lure's version of knetworkmanager and I have the autostart rule.
[14:13] <Lure> ScottK: I noticed that it is different directory than we had before - maybe the one installed by upstream is not used in kubuntu
[14:14] <ScottK> Dunno.  It appears to be autostarting and there is a rule in the dir he mentions in debian/changelog.
[14:14] <ScottK> It's also possible I wouldn't have it on a fresh install.
[14:15] <Riddell> Lure: it installed to the wrong place, needs to be /etc/xdg/autostart else kde 4 won't see it
[14:24] <nixternal> there is not 1 set of completed translations for Kubuntu docs
[14:24] <nixternal> 12 almost complete
[14:25] <Lure> Riddell: ok, I thought so...
[14:26] <Lure> Riddell: should this be changed upstream?
[14:27] <Riddell> Lure: upstream are working on 0.7
[14:28] <Riddell> but yes it should probably use the xdg dir
[14:28] <Lure> Riddell: ok, I will look to forward also some other patches upstream
[14:28] <Riddell> they may well not apply
[14:28] <Riddell> porting to 0.7 and kde 4 means it's a rewrite I suspect
[14:29] <Riddell> http://websvn.kde.org/branches/work/knetworkmanager/ seems to be it
[16:18] <Artemis_Fowl> Riddell: ping
[16:21] <Riddell> hi Artemis_Fowl
[16:21] <Artemis_Fowl> Riddell: hey
[16:22] <Artemis_Fowl> Riddell: concerning the feature in KGRUBEditor that will be used to install/restore GRUB
[16:22] <Artemis_Fowl> Riddell: I am going to work on it
[16:22] <Riddell> great
[16:23] <Artemis_Fowl> Riddell: and I would like to know what should I inlude
[16:23] <Artemis_Fowl> Riddell: simply a front-end to grub-install
[16:23] <Artemis_Fowl> or something more? (eg install GRUB into a floppy)
[16:24] <Riddell> Artemis_Fowl: the use case I have is a Friend who somehow had windows wipe over her boot loader so now she can't get into linux
[16:25] <Riddell> Artemis_Fowl: so she wants to load a kubuntu live CD and click a button to restore the boot loader
[16:25] <Riddell> I don't see a need for floppy
[16:26] <Riddell> but it would presumably need to find the config on her existing kubuntu install somehow
[16:26] <Riddell> unless a new one could be made easily
[16:27] <Artemis_Fowl> Riddell: a new config is created with grub-install or am I worng?
[16:27] <Riddell> Artemis_Fowl: I've no idea, you're the grub expert :)
[16:28] <Artemis_Fowl> GRUB Manual is the GRUB expert :) I'll take a look at it
[16:41] <jpatrick> Riddell: rouzic, asks if we could register a es.kubuntu.org, as we are unable to get the old domain back
[16:41] <ScottK> Riddell: Just to touch base with you ...  I'm going to try and get better no xorg.conf performance for displayconfig done yet.  I think you have the qt3 chinese patch and the scribus firefox thing on your list.
[16:42] <Riddell> jpatrick: yes, could do
[16:43] <jpatrick> Riddell: rouzic says: "muchisimas gracias"
[16:43] <Riddell> ScottK: oh, your qt3 upload yesterday got in before mine, I need to upload it again
[16:43] <Riddell> ScottK: remind me again where the scribus firefox thing is?
[16:43]  * ScottK looks
[16:44] <ScottK> Handy I kept the window open ...
[16:44] <ScottK> Bug #156158
[16:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 156158 in scribus "In Gutsy Gibbon, Url in Scribus does not launch Firefox" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156158
[16:44] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^
[16:44] <jpatrick> Riddell: should I file an RT for th -sysadmin guys to do?
[16:44] <Riddell> thanks
[16:44] <Riddell> jpatrick: yep
[16:44] <jpatrick> will do
[16:59] <nixternal> hey, did multimedia buttons stop working for everyone with kde 4.0.3?
[16:59] <nixternal> vol up/down and mute do not work at all
[17:22] <vorian> nixternal: same here
[17:26]  * apachelogger waves at Riddell
[17:26] <apachelogger> nixternal: did they work before? Oo
[17:27]  * apachelogger only was able to use them when kmilo from KDE3 was running
[17:28] <nixternal> yup
[17:34] <seele> Riddell: you might want to read this if you are still mentoring the LF printing project: https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/printing-summit/2008/001572.html
[17:34] <seele> Riddell: (the entire thread)
[17:46] <smarter> apachelogger: don't work here too(kde 4.1) and worked with kmilo/kde3
[17:46] <apachelogger> smarter: well, it is resonable that they don't work with KDE4 at all
[17:46] <apachelogger> because we didn't apply the keycode magic yet
[17:46] <apachelogger> but that they worked for nixternal at some point ... is strange
[17:47] <smarter> shouldn't it be fixed upstream?
[17:47] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[17:47] <apachelogger> we never pushed our stuff in KDE 3 upstream
[17:47] <apachelogger> so I guess it would be only working for us
[17:48] <smarter> what's the name of kmilo in kde4?
[17:48] <apachelogger> kmilo
[17:49] <apachelogger> hm
[17:49] <apachelogger> my bzr is br0ken
[17:49] <apachelogger> anyway
[17:49] <Riddell> seele: I agree with Peter, PDF export in the print dialogue is daft to anyone but printer programmers
[17:49] <smarter> guess I should compile it before knowing if it works or not (:
[17:49]  * apachelogger gives Riddell the most lovely amarok 1.4.9 packaging http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/amarok/
[17:49] <apachelogger> Nightrose: *hug*
[17:50] <Nightrose> ;-)
[17:50] <apachelogger> I am in my bed again, coughing my soul out... so don't be jealous :P
[17:50] <Nightrose> hehe
[17:50]  * Nightrose hands apachelogger a big cup of hot tea
[17:51] <Riddell> apachelogger: ooh
[17:51] <Riddell> apachelogger: all ready to upload?
[17:51] <apachelogger> Riddell: yep
[17:51] <apachelogger> Nightrose: thanks
[17:53] <Riddell> dpkg-source: error: file amarok_1.4.9.orig.tar.gz has md5sum 54d94eec5f248be3961af5527ce7ff97 instead of expected fe30feea65c1ac41b31908dd37f7dcb7
[18:01] <JontheEchidna> Hello, I'm trying to package a Plasmoid. I need a bit of help with my rules file, though.
[18:02] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: hi, using cdbs or just debhelper?
[18:02] <JontheEchidna> dh
[18:02] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: put your debian/rules file in a pastebin
[18:02] <Riddell> apachelogger: up it goes
[18:02] <JontheEchidna> http://pastebin.com/m5e17a519
[18:03] <JontheEchidna> The binary builds ok
[18:03] <smarter> JontheEchidna: If you want an example plasmoid package looks at kepas(but it uses cdbs)
[18:04] <JontheEchidna> This is the error I get http://pastebin.com/m9496431
[18:04] <JontheEchidna> smarter: I'll take a look at it, thanks.
[18:04] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: "$(MAKE) install DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/packageName"  you need to change packagename there to the actual package name
[18:05] <Riddell> "dh_clean: I have no package to build"  do you have anything in debian/control ?
[18:05] <JontheEchidna> http://pastebin.com/m36865f35
[18:05] <JontheEchidna> ^Debian control
[18:06] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: you need to fill in those fields
[18:06] <Riddell> Package:
[18:06] <Riddell> also a long description
[18:07] <JontheEchidna> ok
[18:07] <JontheEchidna> Should I put the kde-look page that the person posted the plasmoid on as the homepage?
[18:08] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: yes
[18:08] <JontheEchidna> ok
[18:08] <JontheEchidna> and then change packagename to coremoid
[18:08] <Riddell> yep
[18:09]  * Nightrose thinks Czessi already did a package for taht
[18:09] <Nightrose> or at least tried
[18:09] <Nightrose> *that
[18:10] <JontheEchidna> oh, so what should I do then?
[18:10] <Nightrose> JontheEchidna: go ahead if you want
[18:10] <Nightrose> just wanted to let you know
[18:10] <JontheEchidna> ok
[18:10] <Riddell> I see no coremoid on revu
[18:10] <Nightrose> in case you are having trouble you could talk to him
[18:11] <Nightrose> Riddell: he might have just posted it to his ppa
[18:11] <Nightrose> or not at all
[18:11] <Riddell> anyone want to backport amarok to gutsy?
[18:11] <Czessi> Riddell: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/204033
[18:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 204033 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] coremoid from kde-look.org" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[18:12] <Czessi> sorry, must go to work.  bye
[18:12] <Nightrose> bye Czessi :)
[18:12] <Riddell> aah
[18:13]  * JontheEchidna will finish the package anyway for personal experience
[18:16] <JontheEchidna> ...and then perhaps look for something else to package
[18:18] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: put it on revu when you get it working, we'll give you feedback
[18:18] <JontheEchidna> Ok
[18:22] <JontheEchidna> I'm having trouble signing things: http://pastebin.com/m5d46202
[18:25] <JontheEchidna> I have a GPG key; I used it to sign the Launchpad Code of Conduct
[18:26] <JontheEchidna> Oh, I forgot my comment
[18:27] <vorian> JontheEchidna: debuild -S -sa -k(yourkey)
[18:29] <vorian> you can also edit your devscripts.conf to use your key to sign without having to add -k
[18:29] <Riddell> you shouldn't need -k if its your default key and it matches what's in debian/changelog, I don't
[18:33] <JontheEchidna> I didn't have my name, comment, and email address exactly how I had for my gpg key
[18:34] <JontheEchidna> success!
[18:34] <JontheEchidna> How would I go about uploading this to Revu?
[18:35] <CheGuevara> hi
[18:39] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: You understand no one is looking at new packages until after Hardy releases, right?
[18:39] <ScottK> !revu | JontheEchidna
[18:39] <ubotu> JontheEchidna: REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU
[18:40] <JontheEchidna> Oh, I didn't know that.
[18:41] <Riddell> well hardy release is only 15 days away, not long until we're open for new packages
[18:41] <CheGuevara> damn ntfs mounting in kde 4 still needs fixing
[18:42] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: It's not problem to upload, just don't expect reviewing.
[18:43] <Riddell> poke to get reviews
[18:54] <JontheEchidna> Heh, this plasmoid is neat too
[19:05] <Nightrose> Riddell: there is another fix for amazon that we might want to get in 1.4.9 - so there might be another tarball - not sure yet though - just so you know
[19:07] <Riddell> Nightrose: when is 1.4.9 being announced?
[19:07] <Nightrose> saturday
[19:07] <Nightrose> so far
[19:07] <Nightrose> might change due to this
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[19:11] <uga> anyone else than me, got kde3's kios failing on hardy?
[19:12] <uga> my own kde4 build runs fine, but when I try using konqui3 or any app using the kios to access remote files, it just gets stuck
[19:12] <uga> so it's something related to the kde3 packs
[19:13] <smarter> no problem here(kde 4.1 from svn)
[19:13] <uga> 4.1 svn runs fine here, built by hand
[19:13] <uga> but kde3 apps under my kde4 build don't work fine
[19:14] <uga> konqui3 for example
[19:14] <Riddell> works here konqueror 3 in kde 4.0 fresh install
[19:14] <uga> uhm, it must be something broken here then, I'll have to do some test :/
[19:15] <uga> s
[19:16] <uga> lets check kdehome stuff
[19:21] <uga> a .kde cleanup didn't work either, this is weird
[19:22] <Nightrose> Tonio_: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konversation/+bug/209368 <- I seem to remember you fixed this already - is that correct?
[19:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 209368 in konversation "[hardy] OSD doesn't work in Konversation anymore" [Low,Confirmed]
[19:22] <Nightrose> Tonio_: this is OSD for kde 3
[19:26] <xRaich[o]2x> blueyed: Hi. I made a branch in launchpad for the 5-a-day-kde GUI thingy ^^ https://code.launchpad.net/~raichoo/+junk/5aDay Bugreports welcome ^^
[19:27] <JontheEchidna> http://pastebin.com/mcde5b68 <- I get that when I try to create a source package.
[19:28] <blueyed> xRaich[o]2x: great. How do I start it? ./src/qfiveaday?
[19:29] <xRaich[o]2x> blueyed: Jep but the icons should be somewhere in /usr/share neversfelde will package it that way
[19:29] <xRaich[o]2x> Otherwise you will miss the systray
[19:30] <blueyed> xRaich[o]2x: it's there, but without an icon, yes.
[19:30] <blueyed> xRaich[o]2x: AUTHORS is broken
[19:30] <Tonio_> Nightrose: yeah, I just forgot to upload, thanks for reminding me :)
[19:30] <Nightrose> Tonio_: ah ok :) no prob
[19:30] <xRaich[o]2x> blueyed: Is it? neversfelde wrote that for me ^^
[19:31] <blueyed> xRaich[o]2x: just look.. ;) COPYING is empty.
[19:31] <xRaich[o]2x> I don't even know what to put in there ^^
[19:32] <blueyed> license
[19:38] <blueyed> Riddell: is there an upload planned for kde4libs? I've attached a debdiff to bug 141418 and could upload it myself..
[19:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 141418 in kdelibs "klauncher crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141418
[19:40] <JontheEchidna> My current debian/rules file: http://pastebin.com/m63ed791d
[19:47] <xRaich[o]2x> blueyed: Done. At least for now ^^. I think i will push neversfelde's deb when he's done
[19:48] <xRaich[o]2x> Or he will upload it into his PPA dunno ^^
[19:54] <blueyed> xRaich[o]2x: "commit" just failed, because it would have required an update before.. and the list got emptied.. 8)
[19:55] <xRaich[o]2x> blueyed: It updated every startup
[19:55] <xRaich[o]2x> updates
[19:55] <xRaich[o]2x> but i didn't test the list cleaning.
[19:55] <xRaich[o]2x> i simply don't have any bugs ^^
[19:56] <blueyed> xRaich[o]2x: yes, but when somebody else commits something in the meantime.. you should catch the "bzr commit" error and update again.
[19:56] <blueyed> ..and not empty the list, if that fails, too.
[19:56] <blueyed> ..and dragging text on the tray would be useful.. :)
[19:57] <xRaich[o]2x> yeah i know but i have other things to do ;) But it's on the TODO list
[20:00] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: change distclean to clean with cmake i think
[20:01] <xRaich[o]2x> blueyed: Fixed it quick & dirty. Hope it works now
[20:01] <neversfelde|mobi> is it allowed to use version numbers like 0.0.20080409 in kubuntu?
[20:02] <Riddell> neversfelde|mobi: yes
[20:02] <neversfelde|mobi> thanks, dh_make complains, so I was not sure
[20:03] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: It worked
[20:04] <xRaich[o]2x> blueyed: I don't check for a successful commit/update right now. I will fix that tomorrow. Gotta do some stuff for university now ;)
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[20:08] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: awooga
[20:10] <JontheEchidna> I found the Kubuntu tutorial day packaging tutorial quite useful
[20:22] <CheGuevara> can 4.1 be compiled with qt 4.4 rc 1 or does it need qt-copy
[20:22] <uga> CheGuevara: afaik qt-copy is rc1
[20:22] <CheGuevara> oh cool
[20:23] <uga> not sure what the extra patches in qt-copy do though
[20:23] <uga> (./apply_patches script)
[20:23] <awen_> if anybody have time... please test kde-guidance-powermanager from https://launchpad.net/~andreas-wenning/+archive , it has added support for showing power consumption when on battery
[20:24] <JontheEchidna> I'm packaging another Plasmoid: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Email+Notify?content=75194 , but the developer doesn't seem to have copyrighted any of it...
[20:24] <JontheEchidna> How should I proceed?
[20:24] <CheGuevara> email the dev
[20:25] <JontheEchidna> and then wait until he releases a version with copyrights before packaging?
[20:25] <JontheEchidna> well, I suppose I'd have to, heh.
[20:25] <CheGuevara> yeah
[20:25] <CheGuevara> j .e
[20:26] <CheGuevara> oops
[20:26] <CheGuevara> unless he has svn or somethign which he'd commit to and you'd be able to make an svn checkout
[20:27] <JontheEchidna> Hrm, now how to approach this, heh...
[20:27] <ScottK> Riddell: I need an opinion on further fixing of displayconfig...  Currently if one has no xorg.conf, it's necessary to startup, pick your monitor, restart X, and then you can use displayconfig.  This is because of where/how graphics card detection is done.
[20:27] <fdoving> awen_: looks good. displays 18W here.
[20:28] <awen_> fdoving: cheater ... that's lower than me ;)
[20:28] <ScottK> Riddell: I can, I'm pretty sure, extract the relevant bits out of displayconfigabstraction and stuff them around to get graphics card detection on the first pass (so no need to restart X and no release note needed for displayconfig).
[20:28] <awen_> but thanks for testing :)
[20:29] <ScottK> Riddell: It's gonna be several hundred lines of Python added.  Almost all copy/paste except for whitespace adjustments.
[20:29] <ScottK> I'm pretty sure if it works when I test it, it will either be reasonably reliable for everyone or crash and burn for me.
[20:29] <ScottK> Riddell: So do I press on and upload this if I can make it work?
[20:30] <awen_> ScottK: could it be possible to do some sort of "internal" restart... reiniting the application or something like that?
[20:31]  * ScottK thinks about that
[20:33] <awen_> ScottK: that is how the hal/dbus restarts are done in g-p-m ... running nearly all the initialization code again
[20:33] <ScottK> That might work.
[20:33] <ScottK> If it works it'd be a lot simpler.
[20:33]  * ScottK goes and tries - thanks
[20:34] <Riddell> ScottK: remember that freeze is tomorrow
[20:35] <ScottK> Riddell: Yeah.  So it's get it done today or not at all.
[20:35] <awen_> ScottK: no problem... should hopefully eliminate the need for a lot of code duplication
[20:41] <xRaich[o]2x> blueyed: I have some Code for you. Could you create a package for ksshaskpass for KDE4?
[20:42] <xRaich[o]2x> The Dev gave me a copy of the current code, it's not released yet but should work
[20:43] <blueyed> xRaich[o]2x: well, currently not.. too late for hardy anyway.. or what do you mean?
[20:44] <xRaich[o]2x> blueyed: Not for hardy. But i would be useful for the Applet. I causes Problems when you have a key on the SSH-Key
[20:44] <CheGuevara> Riddell, a nice bug for Ubuntu upstream, update-manager doesn't recognzie the kde 4 meta package as a meta package and thus doesn't allow distribution upgrade
[20:45] <xRaich[o]2x> blueyed: The main thing is that it should run update-alternatives for ssh-askpass
[20:45] <xRaich[o]2x> blueyed: I don't have a clue when i comes to packaging ^^
[20:45] <xRaich[o]2x> it
[20:46] <nixternal> Riddell: trying to get the docs pkg complete with translations before freeze
[20:46] <nixternal> I hate doing documentation now because of this
[20:46] <Riddell>  hello
[20:47] <Riddell> CheGuevara: it's not ment to
[20:47] <nixternal> since 10:00 I have been fixing translations, it is now 14:47
[20:47] <CheGuevara> Riddell, why?
[20:49] <nixternal> ARGHHHHHHHHHH!
[20:49] <ScottK> awen_: Upon reflection, I think I ought not break U/I freeze and add your power consumption change.  If you can get it approved U/I and string wise, I'll be glad to upload it (I think it's nice).
[20:49] <nixternal> I hate bzr, for no good reason it is now saying docs repo isn't a repo
[20:49] <ScottK> nixternal: And it probably took a long time to come to that conclusion too ...
[20:50] <nixternal> I have been working here for hours on this crap, and now I can't do anything
[20:50] <Riddell> CheGuevara: well we havn't had a kubuntu-kde4 meta package before
[20:50] <nixternal> except check out the entire branch again, which takes forever
[20:50] <awen_> ScottK: where do you get such a U/I freeze exception approved?
[20:50] <CheGuevara> Riddell, yeah, but why not add it now, since distribution upgrade is not necessarily to a new distribution but simply when one package replaces the other
[20:51] <nixternal> Riddell: if I don't get the docs package finished today, will it be able to get uploaded tomorrow?
[20:51] <nixternal> or later on this evening
[20:51] <ScottK> awen_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#head-a8c0a8587e79e2acce0b763e360698e9b1bb07ac
[20:54] <Riddell> nixternal: yes, should be fine
[20:54] <nixternal> good, cuz I am having one hell of a time right now
[20:54] <nixternal> and I need to head out for a bit
[20:59] <Riddell> awen_: how do I test your new power manager?
[21:00] <awen_> Riddell: just close your current power manager and start it using guidance-power-manager ... I've just uploaded a new version to my PPA that should be build in hopefully 10 minutes
[21:01] <Lure> awen_: what is new in your version?
[21:01] <CheGuevara> is knetworkmanager coming?
[21:02] <awen_> Lure: it will show the current power consumption in watts
[21:03] <ScottK> Riddell: I know it's late for awen_'s fix, but it is kind of neat and this is probably our last release for gpm, so it'd be nice to get it in if you think it's reasonable.
[21:03] <ScottK> It'd make a cool screenie for the release page
[21:03] <awen_> and the new version is ready in the PPA
[21:06] <CheGuevara> CMake Error: Could NOT find QtCore.
[21:06] <CheGuevara> hmm wtf
[21:07] <CheGuevara> oh
[21:07] <CheGuevara> Riddell, there's a bug in your 4.4 RC 1 packages I think
[21:08] <CheGuevara> Unpacking libqtcore4 (from .../libqtcore4_4.4.0~rc1-1ubuntu1~ppa1_i386.deb) ...
[21:08] <CheGuevara> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libqtcore4_4.4.0~rc1-1ubuntu1~ppa1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[21:08] <CheGuevara>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/qt4/plugins/codecs/libqkrcodecs.so', which is also in package libqt4-gui
[21:08] <CheGuevara> missing replace or smthing
[21:14] <awen_> ScottK: should the translation change be uploaded before I make the debdiff for the FFE?
[21:14] <awen_> ScottK: or should I state that I have a sponsor for the package if the U/I FFE is granted?
[21:14] <ScottK> Why don't you just make a diff and include your proposed changelog entry
[21:15] <ScottK> That'll work
[21:15]  * ScottK is still futzing w/ displayconfig.
[21:15] <ScottK> Simple recursion isn't enough.
[21:15] <awen_> ScottK: okay, thanks
[21:16] <awen_> ScottK: sad ... hope you mange to get it going
[21:18] <awen_> hmm... but the patch depends on exactly the same part of the code ... the patch really depends on the other patch
[21:18] <ScottK> Then assume it's been applied already.
[21:18] <awen_> ScottK: I'll do that
[21:38] <blueyed> Riddell: if you don't object, I'll upload the fix for bug 141418 later.. (I've pinged you about it before).
[21:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 141418 in kdelibs "klauncher crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141418
[21:46] <awen_> ScottK: and the FFE request has been added as bug 214774 ... crossing fingers
[21:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 214774 in kde-guidance "U/I FFE: power consumtion monitor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214774
[21:46] <ScottK> awen_: I commented on it.
[21:46] <ScottK> Now I'd see what Riddell thinks.
[21:46] <awen_> ScottK: thanks
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[22:35] <ScottK> awen_: Uploaded your powermanager translation fix.
[22:37] <ScottK> Riddell: I'm out of time and I don't have Bug #203378 figured.
[22:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 203378 in kde-guidance "Guidance displayconfig does not automatically detect monitor config on systems with no xorg.conf" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203378
[22:38] <ScottK> awen_: If you want something really significant do to, figure ^^^ out.
[22:38] <awen_> ScottK: thanks ... now the power consumption diff also makes sense
[22:38] <ScottK> The bad news is I didn't get displayconfig to work automatically.
[22:38] <ScottK> awen_: Any chance you could look into that.
[22:39] <awen_> ScottK: did you manage to do something with it ... or did you end up in a dead end?
[22:39] <ScottK> Simple recursion wasn't the answer.
[22:39] <ScottK> Dead end.
[22:39] <ScottK> The last comment in the bug is the right idea.
[22:39] <ScottK> I'm just to fried to implement it.
[22:39] <awen_> how much time do we have?
[22:40] <ScottK> In theory today, but it's a significant enough bug, it'd probably get through the freeze.
[22:40] <ScottK> It's milestoned against the release.
[22:41] <awen_> ScottK: okay ... closing in on midnight here in europe; but I have an hour tomorrow morning (eg. in about 8 hours) where I could look into it
[22:42] <ScottK> awen_: I think it's worthwhile work regardless.
[22:42] <ScottK> awen_: Please do.
[22:42] <ScottK> awen_: Debian will need this fixed even if we don't.
[22:43] <awen_> ScottK: i think you uploaded the wron kde-guidance source...
[22:43] <ScottK> No
[22:43]  * ScottK looks
[22:43] <awen_> ScottK: just downloaded the source ... it's my ppa version
[22:44] <nixternal> gahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[22:45] <nixternal> McKenzie or whatever her name is, thought I was a girl :p
[22:45] <nixternal> that is to funny
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[22:45] <daskreech> nixternal: Does it make sense to you to have the user info in Kmail added to the dictionary ?
[22:45] <awen_> ScottK: if you delete the last changelog entry, and remove the patch mentioned therein we'll be good again ( the second to last changelog entry has the higher numbering)
[22:45] <ScottK2> awen_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62685/ is what I get if I debdiff 11 and 12
[22:45] <nixternal> daskreech: what dictionary?
[22:46] <daskreech> the dictionary that Kmail uses
[22:46] <nixternal> kspell or whatever it is
[22:46] <nixternal> makes sense to me if it doesn't do it already
[22:46] <awen_> ScottK2: but 11+rate2 is uploaded
[22:46] <daskreech> soprano :-)
[22:47] <ScottK> awen_: You have your PPA in your sources.list, right?
[22:47] <nixternal> soprano? that doesn't do dictionary stuff
[22:47] <nixternal> sonnet you mean in KDE 4?
[22:48] <awen_> ScottK: ahh, of course ... I thought that the preferences.conf were effective on source downloads as well, but obviosly not :)
[22:48] <awen_> ScottK: then everything is fine
[22:48] <ScottK2> OK.
[22:48] <ScottK2> You owe me one now.
[22:48]  * ScottK2 swallows his heart again.
[22:49] <ScottK2> Now you have to fix displayconfig ...
[22:49] <awen_> ScottK2: as long it's enough to mend it ;)
[22:52] <awen_> ScottK: or one could argue that we are even now ... i caught it the last time the upload went wrong, and caught a false positive now, hehe
[22:59] <seele> anyone know who Corey Kontros is?
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[23:35] <awen-> is it a reasonable to expect that we have read/write access to /tmp ... or is there a way to determine where it is safe to place a temporary file
[23:42] <Riddell> awen-: /tmp is fine, that's what it's for
[23:42] <awen-> Riddell: can we be sure to be able to write there... or is it a good idea to be able to recover for it being non-writable
[23:51] <awen-> yeah ... it works!!!!!!!!
[23:54] <ScottK> awen-: Agreed (on being even).
[23:54] <Riddell> awen-: yes I think /tmp is always writable, if not other things break first
[23:55] <awen-> ScottK: we are rolling ... deleting my xorg.conf, and displayconfig still detects everything correctly :)
[23:55] <ScottK> Cool.
[23:55] <ScottK> awen-: Thanks for staying up late to fix it.
[23:55] <Riddell> seele: nope
[23:56] <awen-> ScottK: I'll definately need an extra cup of coffee tomorrow ... but glad I could help
[23:56]  * awen- is just making everything into a real patch
[23:58] <ScottK> awen-: Guidance was definitely the weak link in KDE3.  You've been a big help in making in rock for Hardy.  Thanks again.