2008/02/29/#kubuntu.txt

[00:00] <jhutchins_wk> Is hardy out yet?
[00:01] <sd32> !hardy
[00:01] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[00:01] <jhutchins_wk> pedro: THat's what it means when it says #ubuntu+1 - hardy is supported there, for testing.
[00:01] <jhutchins_wk> Not here.
[00:01] <jhutchins_wk> Gutsy is the latest supported here, as it's a production release.
[00:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> hrmmm
[00:04] <pedro> thnks sorry to bother
[00:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> brainstorm is certainly pointing out what matters the most
[00:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> along with an incredibly painful jab at windows: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/235/
[00:05] <mrunagi> is it possible to see the contents of a locked folder on an OSX hard drive?
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[00:07] <lupul> thanks
[00:10] <pedro> i started amaro but i can't play mp3 music
[00:10] <pedro> what do i have to do
[00:10] <tin> does amarok tell you what package you need to install when you try to play mp3?
[00:11] <tin> i can't recall the package name of the top of my head
[00:11] <BluesKaj> tin: libxine1-ffmpeg
[00:12] <pedro> no it just say if i want to install the package i say yes but then i have to rsatart the amrok when i try again it can't play again
[00:12] <BluesKaj> tin, if you're on feisty or gutsy
[00:12] <miladen> when i put in my new external harddrive it says: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000... Why cant i do anything with it?
[00:12] <tin> BluesKaj: oh, i'm set, i was just trying to recall it for pedro
[00:13] <BluesKaj> ok
[00:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> pedro: go to #ubuntu+1.  this isn't help for hardy.
[00:14] <tin> pedro: make sure it got installed: use adept manager, or do 'aptitude search libxine1-ffmpeg'
[00:14] <miladen> no one knows?
[00:15] <tin> miladen: uid 1000 would be the user you made at install, and for some reason you don't have permission to mount it
[00:15] <miladen> tin im su...
[00:15] <tin> you = uid 1000, it = the drive
[00:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> tin: this is a pretty big bug that's been plaguing users since gutsy's release
[00:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's not as simple as you make it sound (oh if only)
[00:16] <miladen> tin can i do a sudo mount?
[00:16] <tin> miladen: i dunno, try it
[00:17] <miladen> tin is there such a command? :D
[00:17] <tin> Daisuke_Laptop says it's a bug, i dunno because my USB mass storages mounts fine
[00:17] <tin> 'sudo mount' is two commands
[00:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> tin: it doesn't affect everyone, but that exact problem covers a pretty fair percentage of all problems around here, and i don't think the solution is known (or if it is, i always miss it)
[00:18] <tin> sudo makes you super user for a single command (if you have your password)
[00:19] <tin> that is a big bug then, with thumb drives and external hard drives so inexpensive and easily available
[00:19] <sd32> is sudo a s effective as kdesu?
[00:20] <mneptok> sudo is for the shell. kdesu is for graphical apps.
[00:20] <tin> you know, i HATE these dell/ms/hp keyboards with home/end/pgup/dp rearranged
[00:20] <sd32> k
[00:20] <mneptok> you know what i hate?
[00:20] <mneptok> the moon.
[00:20] <sd32> the moon????
[00:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> mneptok: it's cool, we
[00:20] <tin> you probly won't call kdesu yourself. if you're at the CLI, you'd use sudo
[00:20] <mneptok> thurn that thing off! we're trying to sleep!
[00:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> ...
[00:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> mneptok: it's cool, we're bombing it soon
[00:21] <sd32> lol
[00:21] <tin> i was about to say how much i liked the flexibility of X's networking
[00:21] <tin> since i'm at my dad's machine with Vista (the DVR is in this room too and i'm wathing carl sagan)
[00:21] <mneptok> billyons and billyons
[00:21] <tin> but konversation and konsole are upstairs on my kubuntu machine
[00:22] <sd32> the cheeze will just absorb the bombs
[00:22] <tin> but I HATE this keyboard so much
[00:22] <mneptok> mmmm ... cheesebomb.
[00:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> sd32: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23371839/
[00:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> i wasn't kidding.
[00:22]  * tin has an idea (also yay for USB)
[00:22] <MartinCleaver> how come sshd is not installed and doesn't show in adept?
[00:22] <anon32> does KDE have a keyboard-controlled mouse?
[00:23] <anon32> I need a keypad cursor right now...
[00:23] <anon32> MartinCleaver: apt-get install openssh-server
[00:23] <tekteen> MartinCleaver: ssh or ssh-server
[00:23] <mneptok> Daisuke_Laptop: at least it's the lunar souythern pole so we don't disturb Moonsanta
[00:23] <MartinCleaver> openssh-server is the same as sshd?
[00:23] <mneptok> MartinCleaver: openssh-server
[00:23] <tekteen> yes
[00:23] <MartinCleaver> ok. thanks.
[00:23] <tin> stupid windows "installed drivers" for USB HID Keyboard
[00:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> moonsanta lives at the lunar south pole.  and he has a goatee.
[00:24] <tin> except it already has a USB HID Keyboard attached
[00:24] <mneptok> :(
[00:24] <tin> but at least i got my own keyboard now
[00:24] <anon32> anyone? I'm in serious need of this....
[00:24] <tin> anon32: go to system settings, mouse & keyboard area
[00:25] <tin> there is a keypad cursor available
[00:25] <anon32> I need a way to turn it on without actually having a cursor
[00:25] <tekteen> anon32: alt+f12
[00:25] <anon32> alt+f12 doesn't do anything
[00:25] <tekteen> then use the arrow keys
[00:26] <tekteen> it sucks. but it works
[00:26] <anon32> tekteen: it does work! yay
[00:26] <anon32> how do I click?
[00:27] <mneptok> punch the monitor
[00:27] <tekteen> anon32: enter
[00:27] <MartinCleaver> ok. So if this machine goes belly up again I'll have at least attempted to keep a connection to it
[00:27] <anon32> tekteen: thanks, it's genius
[00:27] <tekteen> anon32: np
[00:29]  * Daisuke_Laptop sighs
[00:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> i really shouldn't do that
[00:29] <m4fia117> hello
[00:29] <vers> how can i connect my ipod to rockbox...or open a .zip file and install it?
[00:30] <anon32> now to reboot after killing everything...
[00:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> vers: try asking in #rockbox
[00:31] <m4fia117> hi, when i try to install ubuntu on my laptop, it goes to loading partioner
[00:31] <m4fia117> and then stops
[00:31] <tekteen> m4fia117: is there an error?
[00:31] <m4fia117> nopre
[00:31] <m4fia117> tekteen: it just stops
[00:32] <tekteen> m4fia117: I do not know
[00:32] <tekteen> !bug
[00:32] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[00:32] <m4fia117> well, im going to install kubuntu on it
[00:33] <m4fia117> right now im testing kubuntu on a VM
[00:33] <tekteen> ok
[00:34] <Arwen> nooo..... keyboard cursor doesn't work with compiz
[00:35] <m4fia117> your mouse doesnt work?
[00:36] <tekteen> m4fia117: alt+f2 does not work
[00:36] <tekteen> f12*
[00:38] <psilocyde> is there anyone here famillure with my name?
[00:38] <psilocyde> i was hoping i didnt have to rehash my problem
[00:38] <psilocyde> re discribe that is
[00:39] <psilocyde> well im have issues with apt
[00:39] <psilocyde> it keeps breaking
[00:39] <BluesKaj> oh sure we have idedtic memories here :)
[00:39] <psilocyde> lol
[00:39] <psilocyde> right
[00:39] <MartinCleaver> how come, adept wanted the install DVD yet is installing from the web?
[00:39] <psilocyde> well ive been here alot the past few days
[00:40] <psilocyde> any way
[00:40] <psilocyde> sec
[00:41] <tekteen> MartinCleaver: did it get at least 1 package from the cd?
[00:41] <MartinCleaver> not sure
[00:41] <tekteen> MartinCleaver: thats prob why
[00:42] <MartinCleaver> can I tell from a log file?
[00:42] <tekteen> MartinCleaver: look at the output
[00:42] <MartinCleaver> in the GUI?
[00:42] <mneptok> !enter | psilocyde
[00:42] <ubotu> psilocyde: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:42] <tekteen> MartinCleaver: also you may want to take the DVD repo out of the sources list
[00:43] <tekteen> MartinCleaver: yes it the gui
[00:43] <MartinCleaver> gui of adept has one line, downloading (18%); http:// ... /
[00:43] <MartinCleaver> says nothing there about the DVD
[00:43] <MartinCleaver> I'd expected file:// for the DVD
[00:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> MartinCleaver: the dvd is apparently still in your sources.list
[00:44] <tekteen> MartinCleaver: isn't there a button to show more information
[00:45] <MartinCleaver> ah, there is in the GUI a edit software sources button
[00:45]  * MartinCleaver was poking around in /etc
[00:45] <tekteen> MartinCleaver: /etc/apt/sources.list (or the gui)
[00:46] <MartinCleaver> one of the reasons I am running Kubuntu on the desktop in place of Centos is so they both run a debian variant
[00:46] <MartinCleaver> less to think about
[00:47] <psilocyde> sorry, well apt keeps breaking. after a freash install i have been trying to do an update, every thing seems to download properly but halveway through installing those updates. adept manager crashes and i get the error like "adept manager was unable to finnish"
[00:47] <tin> MartinCleaver: just keep an eye on version skew between debian and ubuntu repos
[00:47] <MartinCleaver> funny. only the cdrom is listed as enabled but it looks like it is downloading from http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/
[00:48] <MartinCleaver> which respositories might I like in the Third Party list?
[00:48] <tin> debian stable is usually behind ubuntu, while debian testing is often ahead on popular packages
[00:49] <MartinCleaver> This machine crashed when I first booted into kubuntu this evening.
[00:49] <mneptok> psilocyde: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:49] <MartinCleaver> How muight I diagnose what happened?
[00:49] <MartinCleaver> I looked in dmesg and /var/log/messages
[00:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> at one point, debian stable was years behind everything else.  it's gotten better though
[00:50] <psilocyde> ok, ill post the error in a sec for that
[00:50] <MartinCleaver> only thing weird was unregistered pardevice around the time of the crash
[00:50] <MartinCleaver> my screen blanked and I could not even ping the box
[00:51] <psilocyde> i get E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[00:51] <tin> do it!
[00:51] <tekteen> psilocyde: type it
[00:51] <tekteen> psilocyde: with sudo
[00:51] <Stoffer> is there any program that will go through a filesystem and find or remove any corrupted files?
[00:52] <psilocyde> yep
[00:55] <tin> in a unix it's called fsck (File System ChecK)
[00:55] <acee1235> i cant seem to burn anything with k3b it fails when closing the disk just keeps churning away faster and slower indefinitely
[00:56] <tin> acee1235: try telling it not to close the disk, maybe your drive is weird
[00:56] <tin> many portables and car players will play open discs
[00:57] <BluesKaj> acee1235:  try formatting the disc , it sometimes helps witholder discs or one that have xposed to heat sources
[00:58]  * BluesKaj vows to clean this KB
[00:58] <acee1235> they are new archiva grade dvds
[00:58] <mneptok> BluesKaj: god ida
[00:58] <acee1235> the program wont stop now....
[01:00] <BluesKaj> don't buy the combo dvds , the ones meant for stand alone dvd recorders and pcs...especially the Sonys , they are terrible
[01:00] <acee1235> the drive wont stop spinning i even force killed k3b
[01:00] <psilocyde> well i get "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place" then i get a prompt back in the terminal
[01:00] <Draco> anyone use Quanta? I've heard down to 3.3 supported CSS autocompletion, but I see no such feature in 3.5.6
[01:01] <acee1235> looks like i get to use to good old screw driver approach to stop it
[01:01] <psilocyde> did a search for the defered processing thing and it looks like a known bug
[01:01] <Draco> every time you install libraries ldconfig has to run
[01:01] <Draco> not sure about deferred processing, do programs requiring the libraries work properly?
[01:02] <psilocyde> well i da know ill look
[01:02] <Stoffer> anyone here use ktorrent?
[01:03] <acee1235> ok something is wrong with the driver or somthing it did a horrid job of writing to the disk i can see wave in the tracks
[01:04] <acee1235> is there a way to see if the driver is good these disks arent cheap
[01:04] <Draco> you mean the drive?
[01:05] <acee1235> no the drive is fine it burns great under windows
[01:05] <Draco> that's going to be more expensive than a bunch of disks, though
[01:05] <acee1235> the disks are $4 each
[01:05] <Draco> well, try with cheaper disks for test runs
[01:06] <tin> acee1235: it may be that the drive is weird, it just has windows drivers that know the weirdness
[01:06] <acee1235> i think we are past test runs it doesnt work
[01:06] <tin> also, you simply CAN'T see how "good" a burn is by looking at the tracks
[01:06] <acee1235> are there any fixes or has windows trumped linux once again
[01:07] <m4fia> anyone read that NASA uses REHL?
[01:07] <Draco> you can use $0.05 disks, or $4 disks, your choice
[01:07] <acee1235> Draco i dont think its the disk ive burned 12 different disks
[01:07] <m4fia> did you check the md5's?
[01:07] <tin> what happens when you put the disks back in?
[01:08] <m4fia> i did that with a Ubuntu install, it usually the .iso image
[01:08] <tin> do they get mounted? or does the drive think they're still empty?
[01:08] <acee1235> the drive goes nuts or says its blank
[01:08] <acee1235> im not burning iso's
[01:08] <m4fia> o
[01:08] <Draco> well, you are at some point
[01:08] <acee1235> just normal data backup
[01:09] <acee1235> we arent getting anywere
[01:09] <Draco> do you have another drive, at all?
[01:09] <acee1235> its a laptop and i dont have externer burners
[01:10] <m4fia> well do you have a windows machine?
[01:10] <acee1235> its dual boot
[01:10] <m4fia> well PowerISO can check for curruption
[01:11] <acee1235> can you wine that?
[01:11] <m4fia> after writing it checks
[01:11] <tin> i'd zip up the files, send them to the windows partition and try a burn in windows
[01:11] <m4fia> idk
[01:11] <tin> just make sure the drive didn't go weird between boots
[01:11] <m4fia> yeah
[01:12] <tin> the drive on my server just suddenly stopped working between boots
[01:12] <tin> although, it had been like a year between boots and the drive hadn't been used more than once in the past 5 or 6 years, hehe
[01:12] <Draco> Linux is not designed to handle bad hardware, also
[01:12] <acee1235> this has been a persistent problem and ive burned under window seval time and spaced beween linux failures im attempting to go to linux as primary operating system but keep finding that it and hardware dont get alonf
[01:12] <acee1235> define bad
[01:13] <Draco> hard disks with tons of bad sectors, etc
[01:14] <Draco> one of my friends said it was linux that trashed my system. really the hard drive blew up
[01:14] <acee1235> we arent talking about hard disks and my hard disk is fine
[01:14] <tin> does the drive need special drivers in windows? or does it use the built-in ones?
[01:14] <tin> ie: did you need to reboot after installing the burning software
[01:14] <acee1235> it works without special drivers
[01:15] <tin> maybe check the manufacturer's site
[01:15] <acee1235> i installed xp and it worked immediately after install no rebooting other than what the system does on its own
[01:15] <Draco> my wireless card works without special drivers, and on windows boxes it installs no less than 3 background daemons
[01:15] <tin> there' nothing "wrong" with linux, it's just trying to speak to the drive using known standards, and the drive may have quirks that only the windows drivers know about
[01:16] <acee1235> great so i have to build the system around the os
[01:16] <Draco> I've actually seen windows fail more when it comes to CD drives, regarding reading
[01:17] <acee1235> is there a list of compatible hardware with linux or is it shoot and miss
[01:17] <Draco> No, you just need a burner from a reputable manufacturer
[01:17] <tin> acee1235: with many companies refusing to release specs and/or driver sources (possibly unable due ot NDAs), sometimes you do have to build around the OS if you want to be dedicated to free software
[01:18] <tin> i personally have had no hardware imcompatibilities besides graphics and wifi drivers
[01:18] <acee1235> those are pretty substantial issues
[01:19] <tin> i need the ATI binary driver and i need to grab the firmware off my wifi card
[01:19] <tin> it's easily do-able
[01:19] <tin> it just puts off alot of people simply because it has to be done
[01:19] <Draco> wifi stuff is heavily harassed by United States government, specifically the FCC
[01:19] <tin> where the ubiquity of windows means the drivers are already there
[01:20] <tin> Draco: in this instance it's just Broadcom being private about firmware, which can be pulled right off the card anyway
[01:20] <tin> it's just an extra step
[01:20] <acee1235> fine when i get money to buy a new laptop i may return to llinux for now its more of a headache than a benifit with current issues
[01:21] <tin> or you can use the ndis wrappers, which work fine anyway
[01:21] <acee1235> thank you good night
[01:21] <tin> acee, why don't you keep it installed, and use it for everything you can
[01:21] <roko> hello
[01:21] <Draco> tin: well, the one which has a regulatory daemon, which is binary, is the one I'm talking about and in my old HP (which has broken PS, mobo, and blown up HD)
[01:22] <tin> perhaps the next kernel update will have better support for your drive
[01:22] <pedro> how i go to hady channel
[01:22] <pedro> ??
[01:22] <pedro> i want to go there
[01:22] <tin> till then, ust use windows to do your backups
[01:22] <roko> how i change the chanel
[01:22] <tin> i still use windows to play games, but i'm in kubuntu for everything else (oh an IE web site testing in windows)
[01:23] <acee1235> tin because for the majority of things im doing is does not function and it makes no sense to me to use an os that is less efficet at meeting my needs which are right now to pay a mortgage
[01:23] <pedro> !hardy
[01:23] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[01:24] <tin> majority of stuff?
[01:25] <sd13243> shoutcast servers up again..yay
[01:25] <acee1235> i cannot back of files i cannot distribute cd/dvd's of material to clients cups does not support my printer so i cannot print my homework. the graphics card is incompatable and ive had people try to fix that for the last month offering them $1000 if they could get linux to work equally as well as my windows os for my needs. they failed.
[01:25] <acee1235> backup
[01:27] <acee1235> i get payed $125/hr so every hour i waste trying to hack it together im lossing possible consulting time
[01:28] <Draco> what sort of consulting work? or rather not say
[01:28] <Sanne> acee1235: better complain to the hardware companies that don't support linux.
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[01:30] <Apple_Cat_> Ello
[01:30] <tekteen> hi Apple_Cat_
[01:30] <acee1235> im not trying to rant on linux i love what its trying to do i simply need something that works. as per consulting i cosult with the military and various government branches about autonomous vehicle design. i created an autonomous helicopter my sophmore year and it went from there
[01:31] <tekteen> acee1235: I am almost a sophmore (high school) :-)
[01:32] <acee1235> im in Texas Tech, im a junior age 19
[01:32] <sd13243> cannonical has professional support
[01:32] <acee1235> wonderful sand bowl
[01:32] <Draco> Well, choosing the software because of the hardware isn't always bad.
[01:33] <pushax> what dir do I use for KTTS ?
[01:33] <tin> acee1235: works for doing what though? is kubuntu working for web browsing and email and word processing?
[01:33] <tin> i would use it for that, and if you need windows for something, use that
[01:34] <tin> why are you trying linux anyway? windowsxp not working for something?
[01:34] <acee1235> yes but then i have to print the stuff i typed in the word processor along with CAD drawings burn it to 3 encrypted disks and send them off. how much of that can i currently do on this pc
[01:36] <NickPresta> Does anyone successfully run XFCE with Kubuntu? The last time I tried to install xfce (back in Dapper, I guess), I had various problems where XFCE would conflict with KDE. Should I just install xubuntu-desktop?
[01:36] <acee1235> im trying linux because i like the freedom of it being open source and because i got a bit of heat for being a SC EE dual major who had not used linux
[01:37] <Draco> If you are a CS major and haven't used linux or other unixish, /then/ you should be ashamed
[01:39] <acee1235> its not necessary
[01:39] <crimsun_> Draco: that's a bit extreme
[01:39] <acee1235> most of what i do is in assembly or hard coded
[01:40] <acee1235> what do you do draco?
[01:40] <Draco> crimsun_: I don't mean is a *nix user, just used it at one point
[01:41] <Draco> (excluding those who did assembly, or machine language, or something equally hard to master)
[01:42] <Draco> acee1235: I'm in high school going for an internship in CA or TX
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[01:44] <acee1235> nice, good luck make contacts. my stomach is commanding me to remove myself from my cave and venture out for food so i must go
[01:47] <Draco> I've got a rather annoying algo class, not helped any by the fact we are using a pascal book for C++
[01:49] <NickPresta> Draco, at least you get to learn about C++. My high school class was teaching VB 6.0 at the time on a couple K6's. :)
[01:51] <NickPresta> Ah, netsplit. I love thee.
[01:52] <geggam> who sneezed ?
[01:52] <BluesKaj> the root_________ dude has to stop
[01:56]  * Arwen renames "fglrx" to "Freezing openGL Reduction for X"
[01:56]  * mrjcleaver nudges MartinCleaver
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[01:58] <NickPresta> In case you haven't seen it yet, #kubuntu, http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[01:59] <MartinCleaver> reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu - where do I get the list of sources to add ?
[02:01] <tekteen> MartinCleaver: which ones do you want?
[02:01] <MartinCleaver> What are my options?
[02:01] <Jahromeo> can anyone explain the diff between app-get remove and purge?
[02:02] <tekteen> Jahromeo: purge gets rid of config files
[02:02] <Jahromeo> so it would get rid of the install files as well?
[02:02] <Jahromeo> remove just removes app, purge removes app + install files?
[02:02] <Jahromeo> or do I have that incorrect?
[02:02] <Pici> Thats correct
[02:02] <tekteen> Jahromeo: sudo apt-get --purge remove blah
[02:02] <Jahromeo> that would then purge + remove?
[02:03] <Jahromeo> so it would del the files downloaded for install and uninstall the app at the same time?
[02:03] <MartinCleaver> making a network share my home directory - best done by editing fstab? Or is there a GUI way?
[02:03] <tekteen> Jahromeo: yes
[02:03] <tekteen> Jahromeo: remove removes the installed files
[02:03] <Jahromeo> it wouldnt del the option to dl those files again off my repo tho would it?
[02:03] <tekteen> purge removes the config
[02:03] <tekteen> no
[02:04] <Jahromeo> thanks tekteen easy to remember it then
[02:04] <Jahromeo> taking off kiba dock
[02:04] <tekteen> it is a way to remove the config files as well as the program
[02:04] <Jahromeo> and trying awn
[02:04] <Jahromeo> might find the dependencies are similar tho would i not?
[02:04] <Jahromeo> my synaptic is broken check this out
[02:05] <Jahromeo> kdesudo - command not found - when i enter in password for synaptic
[02:05] <Jahromeo> stupid frontends always break
[02:05] <tekteen> MartinCleaver: that is not a good idea
[02:05] <MartinCleaver> using a network share for home dir?
[02:06] <tekteen> yep
[02:06] <MartinCleaver> hmm. we used to do that 15 years ago
[02:06] <MartinCleaver> but, what do you suggest?
[02:06] <crimsun_> Jahromeo: kdesu, or gksu
[02:06] <tekteen> you should have some sort of encryption, authentication, ect
[02:06] <MartinCleaver> I do
[02:06] <tekteen> cool
[02:07] <tekteen> nfs tab is the only way I know of
[02:07] <MartinCleaver> ok. ta.
[02:07] <tekteen> fstab not nfs
[02:07]  * MartinCleaver nods
[02:07] <tekteen> I have lost my mind
[02:07] <MartinCleaver> too much nodding?
[02:07] <tekteen> lol
[02:08] <Jahromeo> crimsun_ kdesu?
[02:08] <tekteen> MartinCleaver: I personally use openvpn with nfs
[02:09] <crimsun_> Jahromeo: (meant kdesudo)
[02:09] <MartinCleaver> My network disk is on my lan...
[02:09] <tekteen> MartinCleaver: ok
[02:09] <geggam> openvpn with nfs ?
[02:10] <tekteen> MartinCleaver: the issue is that I have a wireless network
[02:10] <tekteen> I am therefor paranoid
[02:10] <tekteen> therefore*
[02:10] <geggam> u are silly
[02:10] <tekteen> geggam: yep
[02:10] <crimsun_> Jahromeo: in actuality, you should be able to use either as long as the 'kdesudo' package is installed.
[02:11] <Jahromeo> says no arguement supplied
[02:11] <crimsun_> what syntax are you using?
[02:11] <tekteen> inside my head: ... ... ... ... ... ...
[02:11] <Jahromeo> hell i dont even know what it does my snaptic just is having hissies
[02:13] <Jahromeo> hmmm i installed kiba-dock - now i dont want it but if i try remove the packages i installed it tries to remove half my other paps
[02:14] <Jahromeo> what is avant window manager called in the repos?
[02:17] <MartinCleaver> tekteen: as long as its encrypted I'd not fret too much
[02:18] <tekteen> MartinCleaver: I don't either
[02:19] <ysome1hasLiz> hello all, Is there any way to run interactive cd's in kubuntu??
[02:20] <tekteen> ysome1hasLiz: what do you mean?
[02:20] <MartinCleaver> so, is there a repository list somewhere?
[02:20] <ysome1hasLiz> I have a language learning CD and kubuntu won't execute it
[02:21] <MartinCleaver> e.g. I heard about a partner repository, for things like skype and vmware, but it's location eluding me
[02:21] <Jahromeo> ! medibuntu
[02:21] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[02:21] <Jahromeo> also doubt you will be able to get hold of vmare but something like virtualbox works just as well @ martincleaver
[02:22] <MartinCleaver> vmware server is free to use
[02:23] <ysome1hasLiz> I'm able to see the contents of the cd, but can't install it
[02:23] <KiD_ChAoS> how do my context menu (right-click menu) in kde?
[02:23] <KiD_ChAoS> edit*
[02:24] <MartinCleaver> http://www.vmware.com/download/server/
[02:28] <Apple_Cat_> yeah go with virtualbox, It's open source
[02:28] <MartinCleaver> if I didn't have clients that use vmware, I would
[02:29] <foibles> whats a good rss feed program?
[02:29] <Arwen> there's akregator I suppose..
[02:29] <Apple_Cat_> google reader ?
[02:29] <Admiral_Chicago> foibles: use aKregator...I like it the best
[02:29] <KiD_ChAoS> now i'm going to ask you a bunch of questions and want you to answer them immediately
[02:30] <geggam> no
[02:30] <KiD_ChAoS> lol
[02:31] <KiD_ChAoS> im a cop, err...investigating a case.... involving how one would edit 'right-click' context menus in kde
[02:31] <Apple_Cat_> ....lol?
[02:35] <FreckledP> I'm seeing major slowdowns accessing gmail through firefox.  I've tried both the new and old interfaces and they both seem sluggish.  Anyone else seen these and/or know of a solution?
[02:35] <rrbox> when's kubuntu going to have KDE 3.5.9 avail for upgrade ?
[02:36] <Dragnslcr> rrbox- it already is
[02:37] <boggystudios> what is the file that Knetworkmanager looks at?
[02:37] <foibles> why does evolution keep freezing on me!
[02:37] <foibles> whats a good alternative for kde
[02:37] <Arwen> rrbox, it's out. But you need to use an unofficial repository or move to Hardy.
[02:37] <rrbox> ahhh that's why
[02:37] <Dr_willis> You mean an alternative for Evolution?
[02:37] <Arwen> foibles, um, kmail/kgroupware? *shrug*
[02:37] <foibles> Dr_willis, sure
[02:37] <foibles> something like outlook
[02:38] <foibles> with mail/calender
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> Kmail
[02:38] <Arwen> Dr_willis, I think me means "a good alternative *to* Evolution for KDE"
[02:38] <Dr_willis> I dont use any. :)  i was just clarifying what you were asking.
[02:38] <Dr_willis> It pays to be concise on irc.
[02:38] <foibles> Dr_willis, indeed
[02:38] <rrbox> kontact's way more loaded than evolution from my testing, and better at importing outlook data
[02:38] <foibles> Dr_willis, you don't use a desktop calender, mail reader?
[02:38] <foibles> rrbox, does it have a calender?
[02:39] <Dr_willis> foibles,  i dont use any of those.. Other then the desktop applet that shows a basic calander. :)
[02:39] <rrbox> kontact's got everything
[02:39]  * Dr_willis is a luddite.
[02:39] <Arwen> is that a kind of mineral? o.O
[02:39] <foibles> rrbox, whats the difference between kmail and kontact?
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> boggystudios» /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:39] <rrbox> kontact is the suite for all of them individual ones foibles
[02:39] <Dr_willis> Luddite - one that shuns mondern tech. :)
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> foibles» kontact contains kmail, as well as notes, contact book,etc
[02:40] <foibles> nosrednaekim, i see
[02:40] <rrbox> foibles: and the "must" is kmymoney
[02:40] <rrbox> kontact is pretty much like outlook, but more
[02:40] <boggystudios> nosrednaekim: yeah I think thats it, thanks
[02:41] <foibles> rrbox, im dling, ill know in just a sec
[02:41] <foibles> evolution is pretty nice, but it keeps freezing
[02:41] <foibles> i suspect that gtk is the culprit
[02:41] <rrbox> foibles: if ur importing easiest is cvs format, and save the template when you map the categories correctly
[02:42] <foibles> rrbox, kontact is just what i wanted
[02:42] <foibles> spanks!
[02:42] <rrbox> evolution is really nice, it just gives like two lines for notes in contacts
[02:43] <foibles> rrbox, evolution has a nicer gui as well
[02:43] <rrbox> and for me i have lots of notes for each contact, so scrolling on two lines was a joke
[02:44] <rrbox> i just wish kontact was able to dial using skype then i'm be the bomb
[02:44] <MartinCleaver> I want a list of sources.list like http://www.apt-get.org/main/ but a lot more sane
[02:44] <rrbox> i'm / it
[02:44] <MartinCleaver> or like http://ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/RepositoriesMirrors but for gutsy
[02:45] <Admiral_Chicago> !sources
[02:45] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[02:45] <Admiral_Chicago> MartinCleaver: those links may help
[02:45] <Admiral_Chicago> !easysource
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easysource - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> !sourceomatic?
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourceomatic? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> !sourceomatic
[02:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.
[02:47] <foibles> can i import email from thunderbird into kontact?
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> foibles» I think so... but i'm not sure how
[02:48] <rrbox> foibles: u might need to check what exporting options u have and check with kontact to see what it can accept
=== claydoh_ is now known as claydoh
[02:50] <foibles> rrbox, nosrednaekim : i actually don't see anywhere where it says anything about importing or exporting in kontact
[02:51] <rrbox> both under file menu
[02:52] <foibles> rrbox, aha
[02:52] <foibles> it was greyed out
[02:53] <rrbox> lol
[02:53] <joker> can some one help me with mp3 wma support
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> !wma
[02:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:54] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. ya mean wma AND mp3 support?
[02:54] <Dr_willis> or is teere some wma-mp3 that i am  confused about. :)
[02:54] <Arwen> MP3 sucks >_>
[02:54] <Arwen> and so does MP3
[02:55] <Arwen> and so does WMA for that matter
[02:55] <Dr_willis> people who say things suck.. suck...
[02:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:55] <Arwen> so... in other words... you suck? :)
[02:55] <rrbox> are there portable ogg players ?
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> Arwen» and so does MP3?
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> rrbox» yes
[02:55] <Dr_willis> rrbox,  yes there are.
[02:55] <Arwen> rrbox, yes
[02:55] <rrbox> really
[02:55] <Dr_willis> us 3 are all lieing... :) yea...
[02:55] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, yes, it sucks twice as much as WMA so I put it down twice
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> lol
[02:55] <rrbox> thought only mp3/wma/ipod ruled
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> nah..wma is worse
[02:56]  * Arwen doesn't understand mp3-evangelizers
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> rockbox
[02:56] <Arwen> it's way outdated
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> !ipod
[02:56] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[02:56] <mrjcleaver> my server just spontaneously rebooted
[02:56] <Dr_willis> ipod is just another media-overhyped mp3 player. :)
=== mrjcleaver is now known as MartinCleaver
[02:56] <Arwen> mrjcleaver, it had to reboot for Automatic Updates to be completed
[02:56]  * Arwen ducks
[02:56] <Arwen> Dr_willis, eh, it plays AAC too
[02:56] <Dr_willis> Arwen,  so.. :)
[02:56]  * MartinCleaver throws a duck at Arwen
[02:56] <Arwen> AAC is great :)
[02:56] <Dr_willis> its still a overhyped/priced fancy mp3 player.
[02:57] <Arwen> hmm, that could be argued too
[02:57] <Dr_willis> 100% markup on the price. :)
[02:57] <Dr_willis> and apple has always been about marketing - But i imagine in 2 years.. cell phones will have killed off the mp3 player market
[02:57]  * MartinCleaver installs the pending updates, juuust to be sure
[02:57] <rrbox> I hear the same thing from Vorbis listeners; 'I'm not buying a hardware portable music player unless it supports Ogg Vorbis.' It's nice to hear, but we can't do anything about it (we're not a hardware company)
[02:57] <Arwen> Dr_willis, and here I just want a phone that makes phone calls :-\
[02:58] <rrbox> thought there was an ogg player
[02:58] <Dr_willis> Arwen,  yep. I got one the other day.. $20 for a new cellphone.
[02:58] <Arwen> there is
[02:58] <Arwen> you can either use modified firmware or... there's one or two that do it natively
[02:58] <Arwen> Dr_willis, in a few years those will have been phased out
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> rrbox» I think the irivers can play ogg
[02:59] <Dr_willis> in a few years.. who knows WHAT we will be using. :)
[02:59] <Dr_willis> I may be able to get a skype phone that replaces my cellphone.
[02:59] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, including Speex/Theora/Writ/Tarkin/FLAC?
[02:59] <Arwen> :-)
[03:00] <Arwen> actually, the OGG format collection is in need of a lossless video codec
[03:00] <rrbox> Dr_willis: skype already replaced all my calling options
[03:00] <Dr_willis> rrbox,  it has here at home.. got a wireless phone that uses skype :)
[03:00] <Dr_willis> rrbox,  but that dont work on the road. yet
[03:00] <rrbox> i got the usb to rj11 adaptor for regular cordless phones at home
[03:01] <foibles> where does thunderbird save its messages by default
[03:01] <rrbox> my pda uses skype over wifi on the road
[03:02] <rrbox> foibles: probably under ".thunderbird" hidden in your username's folder
[03:03] <foibles> rrbox, it isn't
[03:04]  * MartinCleaver leaves his machine running and fully expects ubuntu to have crashed inexplainably overnight
[03:04] <rrbox> or try in konsole "locate thunderbird" i don't use it so not sure about it
[03:04] <MartinCleaver> see you peeps
=== mrjcleaver is now known as MartinsGustyWait
[03:05] <MartinsGustyWait> if this ID logs off then the machine has gone south
[03:05]  * MartinsGustyWait goes home.
=== ssmith is now known as ssmith__
[03:14]  * mneptok shoves Lynoure 
[03:14] <mneptok> (waaaay too early, but ...)
[03:15] <Arwen> I wonder, does the default kernel take advantage of SSE instructions (this would presumably make it incompatible with really old CPUs)?
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> mneptok» how goes life?
[03:15] <mneptok> today? not so good.
[03:15] <mneptok> i feel like a pincushion
[03:15] <mneptok> got vaccinated against a ton of crap today
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> mneptok» required by the Gov. or cause you needed to be?
[03:16] <mneptok> nosrednaekim: for travel
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> mneptok» ah.
[03:17] <mneptok> my leg feels like a slab of meat. that's on fire.
[03:17] <mneptok> thanks, typhoid vaccine
[03:18] <mneptok> the best is the receipt that reads (in French) "No refunds or returns."
[03:19] <mneptok> like, how does would that work? like, mechanically?
[03:19] <mneptok> "i wish to return this inoculation."  "very well, sir, i shall fetch Dracula."
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> lol
[03:20]  * Daisuke_Laptop scratches his head
[03:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> Arwen: to my knowledge, it does, but don't take MY word for it! </lavar burton>
[03:21] <Arwen> lavar?
[03:21] <mneptok> LeVar
[03:22] <mneptok> Arwen: and yes, it does.
[03:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> levar, my mistake :\
[03:22] <mneptok> Arwen: the -generic kernels load those modules that are needed by features supported by the CPU
[03:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah ha
[03:22] <mneptok> (so -generic will load Intel-specific mods for Intels, and AMD for AMD)
[03:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> an actual modular kernel, niiice
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> mneptok» oh is that what they are for? sweet. never knew that
[03:23] <mneptok> this is why people should try to be overly smart and start installing -686 kernels. ;)
[03:24] <mneptok> move your drive to a PIII and GAME OVER
[03:24] <mneptok> (P.S. if you get a "GAME OVER" sign on your computer, that's my quarter stacked. it's mine next. i prefer UPS.)
[03:25] <Arwen> mneptok, does it come with SSE4 optimizations? hehe
[03:27] <NickPresta> What is the aptitude equivalent of `apt-get autoremove`?
[03:27] <mneptok> Arwen: lsmod
[03:27] <kaan> hey guys
[03:27] <mneptok> Arwen: or lsmod | grep SSE
[03:27] <kaan> does anyone know how the connect command works?
[03:28] <kaan> i installed the application
[03:28] <kaan> so just tryin to use the command...
[03:28] <mneptok> kaan: in what app?
[03:28] <kaan> in the terminal
[03:28] <grul> NickPresta, I think it's just "aptitude remove"
[03:28] <mneptok> kaan: et tu en Quebec?
[03:28] <grul> I'm not certain though
[03:28] <kaan> no
[03:28] <mneptok> k
[03:28] <kaan> msg mneptok no
[03:29] <mneptok> kaan: what app in the terminal? sounds like irssi.
[03:29] <Arwen> mneptok, no results with SSE in name
[03:29] <kaan> i just tried the connect command and then it said use sudo apt get connect-proxy to use the command
[03:29] <kaan> then i installed it using that command
[03:29] <mneptok> Arwen: yeah, i think it's built in, and not used if the CPU doesn;t have SSE optimiztions
[03:30] <mneptok> +a
[03:30] <kaan> now im tryin to use the connect command and it sort of works but it doesnt actually connect..
[03:30] <grul> NickPresta, after some reading I'm sure enough to say that aptitude forces the removal of unused dependencies, while with apt-get you can choose if you want to do it
[03:30] <kaan> it doesn't even ask my username
[03:30] <mneptok> kaan: there is no command "connect"
[03:30] <mneptok> kaan: connect to what? with what protocol?
[03:30] <kaan> SSH
[03:31] <kaan> i normally use that application or putty
[03:31] <mneptok> then the command is "ssh"
[03:31] <kaan> to connect
[03:31] <kaan> hm ok
[03:31] <mneptok> ssh user@host.name.or.ip.address
[03:31] <mneptok> eg ssh billg@unix.gateway.microsoft.com
[03:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> nice thing is that putty is one of the least worst clients
[03:33] <kaan> how do i use the username with ssh
[03:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> ...  he just told you how to do that
[03:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> ssh username@host.or.ip.address
[03:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> where "username" is the user name
[03:34] <kaan> ohhh gotcha
[03:34] <kaan> thnx
[03:34] <kaan> sorry missread
[03:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> no worries
[03:34] <kaan> connected thnx guys
[03:36] <kaan> one more question
[03:36] <kaan> oh nevermind got it
[03:37] <kaan> hm maybe not.... how can i open a txt file in the terminal which is located in the server i just connected to
[03:38] <kaan> or how can i copy files from the server i connected to using ssh to my local harddrive?
[03:38] <kaan> someone pls...
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[03:45] <iceman_> anybody know how to get zeroconf working....and know of any windows like skin/themes that i can use. or MAC like skins/themes that i can use?
[03:48] <iceman_> anybody know how to get zeroconf working....and know of any windows like skin/themes that i can use. or MAC like skins/themes that i can use?
[03:48] <NickPresta> !patience
[03:48] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:49] <NickPresta> !themes | iceman_
[03:49] <ubotu> iceman_: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:50] <kaan> I figured it out people thanx anyways
[03:50] <kaan> apperantly konquerer can connect using the fish://username@server
[03:50] <kaan> uses the SSH protocol and has a graphical interface to drag and drop files.... neat
[03:52] <iceman_> Nickpresta i don't need you to sic a bot at me k. I was waiting an entire 5 minutes and in that time nobody said a word. thanks though i wouldve figurs it out that you were busy at some point...no it all
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[04:01] <Arwen> !netsplit
[04:01] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
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[04:34] <ssmith__> does anyone know why I get the failure "configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check" when I do  a     ./configure for k3b 1.04?
[04:38] <gorbierd> hi!
[04:38] <Arwen> I used falcon to set up a local apt repository and it seems to work except that APT refuses to download source packages from it
[04:38] <Arwen> any ideas what I did wrong?
[04:38] <gorbierd> suggest me please where information about system language(imean language pack) are stored?
[04:39] <gorbierd> I just want to change default language in my customized livecd
[04:42] <icanhasadmin> someone please congratulate me
=== ubuntu is now known as Nabiki
[04:43] <icanhasadmin> i'm officially on the "command line commands are quicker and more efficient than using a GUI" bandwagon.
[04:43] <fignew> you can has no congratulate
[04:44] <icanhasadmin> fignew: that's very witty of you
[04:44] <fignew> sorry :(
[04:44] <icanhasadmin> fignew: you + ton = tasty :)
[04:45] <Nabiki> I have a quick question.  I am installing kubuntu, and I am setting up partitions.   I have a 320 GM drive, but it seems to be showing it as a 64GB or so drive.  Any ideas?
[04:45] <fignew> doihasflavor?
[04:45] <Nabiki> I noticed this as I was telling it to set up 1GB for swap, 1GB for /boot, and 40GB for /, and it was almost full.
[04:45] <icanhasadmin> definately has a flavor
[04:45] <fignew> Nabiki: has it worked under any other operating system?
[04:45] <Nabiki> Brand new drive.
[04:45] <icanhasadmin> is it a maxtor?
[04:46] <Nabiki> WD
[04:46] <icanhasadmin> hm..
[04:46] <fignew> Nabiki: is it an older system
[04:46] <fignew> ?
[04:46] <Nabiki> WD EIDE CAviar SE
[04:46] <Nabiki> Brand new system.  AMD X2 4000+
[04:47] <Nabiki> Should I try booting into windows, and hacking it up there? ;P
[04:47] <icanhasadmin> tell me that's a joke
[04:47] <Nabiki> Hehe.
[04:48] <Nabiki> I am actually gibing the Linux setup the larger of the two hard drives.  ^_^  I only bother with windows forgames.  For anything requiring actual productivity, I have been using Linux for quite a while.
[04:49] <Nabiki> I downloadedthe ISO for the 64 Bit version of Kubuntu.
[04:49] <jumpkick> Is there any way to make automounting just consistently work in Kubuntu/KDE?
[04:49] <jumpkick> it's really frustrating that it only seems to detect and mount media about 1/3rd of the time
[04:49] <icanhasadmin> jumpkick: is there anyway to make automounting not consistently work in kubuntu?
[04:49] <Nabiki> jumpkick: Are the items in your fstab?
[04:50] <icanhasadmin> i'm sorry, i'm obviously not being useful. goodnight all
[04:50] <jumpkick> icanhasadmin:  attach a removable hard drive
[04:51] <jumpkick> Nabiki: nope, thought the point was plug in a USB device and the mounter figures it out
[04:51] <Nabiki> I see.
[04:52] <Nabiki> jumpkick: I can't help much.  ;/  I haven't had that problem yet.
[04:52] <jumpkick> ah...
[04:52] <jumpkick> well
[04:52]  * Nabiki was thinking other issue.
[04:52] <jumpkick> thanks anyway
[04:52] <jumpkick> I boot up and sometimes I get a "Media" icon like a USB key, I click and it mounts the drive as my user...
[04:52] <Nabiki> As long as all the sbus and hal  stuff installs correctly, it SHOULD just work.
[04:53] <jumpkick> other times I get the icon, I click on it but it doesn't mount, but if I click "open folder as root" it mounts
[04:53] <jumpkick> but the device path is all different
[04:53] <Nabiki> Isee.
[04:53] <jumpkick> sometimes I get no icons at all if I go into the Media folder, not even the internal hard drive which is always supposed to be there
[04:53] <Nabiki> I am going to reboot and see if vista sees my new drive.  ^^;;  Then I will find a tool to format itwtih.
[04:54] <jumpkick> aggravating
[04:54] <jumpkick> Nabiki: good luck
[04:54] <Nabiki> Thanks
[04:54] <Apple_Cat_> same usb port ?
[04:56] <jumpkick> Apple_Cat_: yes... the drive is a permanently attached, permanently powered external USB drive
[04:56] <jumpkick> same thing happens for samba share browser too
[04:56] <Apple_Cat_> hrm ...?
[04:57] <Apple_Cat_> everything is ok in your bios ?
[04:57] <Apple_Cat_> ...not that it would make much difference, hmmm
[04:57] <jumpkick> Apple_Cat_:  yup everything is fine
[04:58] <jumpkick> I can see the drive in the dmesg
[04:58] <jumpkick> during start up
[04:58] <Apple_Cat_> is the drive new ?
[04:58] <jumpkick> sometimes the order the USB bus detects it in changes...
[04:58] <jumpkick> sometimes its detected as sdbc1, sometimes sdb1
[04:59] <jumpkick> but it doesn't matter
[04:59] <jumpkick> the mounter should at least see the drive
[04:59] <jumpkick> I can mount it manually
[04:59] <jumpkick> it's a super PITA
[04:59] <jumpkick> the drive is a 750GB drive, it's less then a year old, but not exactly new
[05:00] <jumpkick> same happens for USB sticks though
[05:00] <Apple_Cat_> I'm assuming you have asked google but didn't find anything ?
[05:01] <jumpkick> I have asked the google, the google tells me that Kubuntu shipped with some very strange DVD automounting bug
[05:01] <jumpkick> I'm not sure that it is the same
[05:01] <jumpkick> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/95868
[05:03] <Apple_Cat_> so sometimes it automounts sometimes it doesn't, rather than it always doesn't automount
[05:04] <Apple_Cat_> (with some poor grammar thrown in for good measure )
[05:04] <Nabiki> Ok....  Fdisk saw everything.  I am not sure what kind of crack the installer is on.  ;P  hehehe
[05:06] <jumpkick> Apple_Cat_: yes...  the behaviour is erratic
[05:07] <Apple_Cat_> sorry, i g2g for a bit, just hang around here and I'm sure someone will know what's wrong
[05:08] <jumpkick> thanks Apple_Cat
[05:08] <jumpkick> I may just file a launchpad bug or post to the forum
[05:08] <Nabiki> Is 1GB too big for Swap?
[05:09] <jumpkick> Nabiki: I have 1GB for swap
[05:09] <jumpkick> 4GB ram
[05:09] <jumpkick> it never gets used
[05:09] <jumpkick> Linux kernel is awesome
[05:09] <Apple_Cat_> that it is :)
[05:10] <Nabiki> Hehe.
[05:10] <jumpkick> htop is really nice
[05:10] <jumpkick> I like it a lot
[05:10] <Nabiki> I am running 32 bit vista, so clost to half my ram is ignored.  3  1GB strips, and a 2GB strip.  The 2GB strip takes it over 4 GB, so the rest is ignored.
[05:11] <Nabiki> It reads as 3 gigs
[05:11] <jumpkick> yeah, windows is not so good for that...
[05:11] <Nabiki> Under Linux though, it will read it all. hehe.
[05:11] <Nabiki> Well, if you run 32bit linux, you can possibly have the same issue.
[05:11] <jumpkick> we had Win2k servers at my work you could do some giggering to get it to use 3GB for application and 1GB for OS
[05:11] <jumpkick> it was not the greatest
[05:12] <Nabiki> Hehe
[05:12] <jumpkick> I think 32-bit linux can do 4+GB if you turn on the right addressing param in the kernel
[05:13] <jumpkick> probably take a bit a performance hit for it though
[05:13] <Nabiki> The thing is, you have to turn on 64 bit addressing.
[05:13] <jumpkick> 32-bit limit for addressable space is 4GB (that's how many addresses you can have in 32-bit unsigned integer)
[05:14] <jumpkick> yeah, the kernel has to use "long"s to address over 4GB
[05:14] <jumpkick> unless you are running a 64-bit CPU which can treat an int as a 64-bit unsigned int I believe
[05:14] <jumpkick> so no performance hit
[05:15] <jumpkick> at least on mem addressing
[05:15] <Nabiki> I think that is the main difference between 32 bit and 64 bit inthe kernel.  The big performance hit would come from running everything 32 bit with a 64 bit kernel.  ;P  But fromwhat I hear the hit is not so bad as to be noticed on most home machines.
[05:16] <Nabiki> I am running a 64 bit processer so I will runthe 64 bit kernel for now.
[05:16] <jumpkick> I don't think there's a big hit for running 32-bit on 64-bit
[05:16]  * Nabiki will have to learn how to set up a dual lib environment for programming stuff too.
[05:17] <jumpkick> mind you my 64-bit cpu is so fast
[05:17] <jumpkick> you can just use VMWare server and set it to 32-bit guest for testing
[05:17] <Nabiki> I just hope my system will actually get use out of a dual core.  Though, I payed less than a 100$ for it.  ;P
[05:17] <jumpkick> Dual core is useful
[05:17] <Nabiki> I am thinking more for compiling.  :-)
[05:18] <jumpkick> SMP -> much less slowdown when things get hectic
[05:18] <jumpkick> make -j 2
[05:18] <jumpkick> but some things can not be built using make with parallel jobs
[05:18] <Nabiki> I mean as far as compiling 32 bit apps under 64 bit os.
[05:19] <jumpkick> yeah, for that I would use a chroot with all i386 libs or a VM
[05:19] <Nabiki> First thing I need to do is update my video drivers.  O.o;;  The fonts look ugly under the live CD. hehe ;P
[05:19] <jumpkick> indeed
[05:20] <Nabiki> the live CD is convenient. and with more ram, it is easier to use. :)
[05:20] <Nabiki> O.o  The last system I built had 1GB of ram.  Things did not run smooth while I was installing. hehe
[05:22] <Nabiki> I do however approve of the minimalistic approach the current live CD has to what it has "installed" on the CD.  Makes things run a lot more smoothly than if they try to load everything.
[05:23] <Arwen> ☭yay for weird unicode characters☭
[05:27] <Nabiki> HEhehe.
[05:28] <Nabiki> Hmmm...  I hope it installed the boot loader propperly.  ;P  It didn't ask me ANY questions about it. hehe
[05:28]  * Nabiki will findout soon...  Off to reboot!
[05:32] <Arwen> hey cool, closing the GIMP with compiz-fusion running looks sweet (3 windows dying at the same time)
[05:46] <Natalia> #foz
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[05:53] <Natalia> oi alguem sabe como entro em outro canal????
[05:58] <b0uncyfr0> hey ppl
[05:58] <b0uncyfr0> wats going on
[06:01] <b0uncyfr0> do we have any ladies in the house?
[06:01] <surgy> !offtopic | b0uncyfr0
[06:01] <ubotu> b0uncyfr0: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:01] <surgy> sorry i had to
[06:01] <b0uncyfr0> i understand
[06:07] <sash> hi
[06:10] <mrunagi> what is most exciting about hardy?/
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[06:38] <dan__> whats with all the excitement?
[06:40] <Arwen> mrunagi, not a whole lot
[06:40] <Arwen> I couldn't tell you it apart from Gutsy if you asked me to
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[07:23] <psilocyde> i get a verry low sound volume on my lap top
[07:24] <psilocyde> can i get some help with that?
[07:24] <psilocyde> it has  an intell-hda soun
[07:25] <psilocyde> sound chip
[07:25] <psilocyde> alsa mixer master is 00
[07:52] <jussi01> !intelhda | psilocyde
[07:52] <ubotu> psilocyde: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[08:10] <jonathan_> !aptfix
[08:10] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
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[08:26] <row> how easy is it to get my current kubuntu box to host a kubuntu net boot image?
[08:27] <row> my old laptop seems to be having issues with the kubuntu gutsy image I downloaded says issue with i/o on dvd yet the hardy kde4 alpha installed fine just wondering if worth network booting.
[08:28] <matt_> matt
[08:28] <matt_> Hello!
[08:29] <matt_> Do you use Kubuntu KDE?
[08:29] <Lynoure> matt_: Anything you need help with?
[08:29] <Lynoure> matt_: pretty much everyone here does...
[08:29] <matt_> Nahh Logging of
[08:29] <BanTam> hi Lynoure how are you tonight?
[08:30] <Lynoure> BanTam: Morning here. Hopefully more productive day today :)
[08:30] <BanTam> lol
[08:30] <BanTam> it is morning isnt it? lol time ran away on me
[08:30] <Lynoure> 10:30 in Finland :)
[08:31] <BanTam> 3:30 USA
[08:31] <BanTam> big difference
[08:33] <ere4si> 6.30 pm in aus
[08:33] <ere4si> *tralia :)
[08:33] <BanTam> :)
[08:33] <Lynoure> The irc is round! :)
[08:34] <ere4si> hehe
[08:35] <alexander> hello
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[08:36] <strog_> anybody online here?
[08:36] <nick_> np
[08:36] <nick_> no
[08:36] <nick_> gtfo
[08:36] <nick_> kthx
[08:36] <Lynoure> nick_: hmph
[08:37] <strog_> i have newly installed kubuntu with no problems at all
[08:37] <Lynoure> strog_: Congrats :)
[08:37] <nick_> nice
[08:37] <nick_> kubuntu is fun
[08:37] <strog_> but when i insert the usb cable of my digicam i get the autorun window displayed endlessly long
[08:37] <nick_> :(
[08:38] <nick_> sorry for being rude earlier
[08:38] <strog_> but when i use the rear usb connectors it works fine
[08:38] <Lynoure> strog_: by autorun window you mean the window that asks you what to do about it?
[08:38] <nick_> i didn't know you were a noob
[08:38] <nick_> so sorry noob
[08:38] <strog_> well i know the basics
[08:38] <nick_> k
[08:38] <strog_> not thaaat noob
[08:38] <nick_> then use the rear connector
[08:38] <nick_> it might be a temporary bug
[08:38] <jussi01> !noob
[08:38] <ubotu> Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:38] <Lynoure> nick_: better than being some other things, I must say.
[08:39] <strog_> the front usb pannel works fine with usb sticks
[08:39] <nick_> is being a noob better than being 1337?
[08:39] <strog_> where can i report that bug?
[08:39] <nick_> most front usb are slower anyway
[08:39] <nick_> i think it is a motherboard thing
[08:40] <jussi01> !bug | strog_
[08:40] <ubotu> strog_: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[08:40] <nick_> !google
[08:40] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[08:40] <nick_> !microsoft
[08:40] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[08:40] <nick_> !satan
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about satan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <Lynoure> !botabuse
[08:40] <nick_> !billgates
[08:40] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about billgates - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <Lynoure> strog_: Which camera is it, by the way? Almost all cameras nowadays work fine with Linux, but there are still some non-standard exceptions.
[08:43] <strog_> i have a powershot A40
[08:43] <nick_> is it good?
[08:43] <strog_> but i would tip on the motherboard cause this is a new computer
[08:43] <strog_> it is an old model from canon
[08:43] <strog_> but decent
[08:43] <nick_> i want one tbh
[08:43] <jussi01> the a40 works fine iirc
[08:43] <nick_> my kodak does not do good video
[08:44] <nick_> only 22 fps max
[08:44] <nick_> 10 fps for 640 x 480
[08:45] <Lynoure> strog_: you said the autorun window stays forever, but I'm still not sure what you mean by the autorun window. The one that asks you what to do with the newly found device? If so, can you still browse the contents?
[08:46] <strog_> no, when i insert my digicam i get an autostart window popup then another one and another etc.
[08:47] <strog_> and when i unplug the cam it stops
[08:47] <Lynoure> strog_: But you do mean the window I described?
[08:48] <strog_> yeah
[08:48] <strog_> if u want to open it in a new window or download the pictures etc
[08:48] <Lynoure> strog_: It would be interesting to see if your  dmesg  says anything interesting about the device while this is happening.  (pastebin is the good destination for that)
[08:49] <strog_> give me the link
[08:49] <Lynoure> !pastebin
[08:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:49] <strog_> i will
[08:50] <Anas> hi i use kmess messenger but  i cannt see any yahoo contacts i see just hotmail contacts is there anyway to see yahoo contacts on kmes or if htere any other messenger allow me to seee both yahoo and hotmail contacts i dont want to make yahoo accounts
[08:50] <Lynoure> strog_: but, like nick_ said, trying with a different usb port is also worth doing, as it's a simple quick change to try.
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[08:51] <strog_> here is the link
[08:51] <strog_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57797/
[08:55] <Lynoure> strog_: unless you have been disconnecting and reconnecting it a lot, it is doing it itself
[08:55] <strog_> it is doing it all by itself
[08:56] <Lynoure> strog_: then do try with another usb port. And if that does not help, with a different usb cable perhaps. The cable might be subtly faulty.
[08:57] <strog_> i have another kubuntu machine and i connect my digicam with the same cable and it doesnt do any problems
[08:57] <strog_> when i use the rear usb port it works on this new machine normally
[08:58] <Lynoure> strog_: then could be something subtly wrong with that particular usb port in the new machine. usb sticks might take less power than your cam.
[08:59] <strog_> could be, but then it would do the same problems on the old kubuntu machine
[08:59] <Lynoure> strog_: no... I meant with the port on the new machine
[09:00] <strog_> yeah but the rear ports have the same powersupply as the front
[09:00] <strog_> i would tip that it is that the motherboard is a new one
[09:00] <strog_> and that the bug for was never found until this day
[09:01] <Lynoure> strog_: I'm not understanding how that would rule out a problem in the usb bus/cable/port in question, but oh well :)
[09:02] <Lynoure> Does not look like a software bug in any case, and I'm not one to try remote hardware troubleshooting deeper than this :)
[09:02] <storbeck> meh, ubuntu-desktop sure does take a long time to install.
[09:02] <strog_> nevermind i wrote a bug report to ubuntu now and now you have a noob less that would get on your nerves ;) thanks for the good support
[09:02] <strog_> c ya
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[09:27] <kaminix> Is it just me or is the Kaffeine package broken?
[09:28] <storbeck> Installs fine for me.
[09:29] <kaminix> For me it removes the kaffeine-xine package. Have you run aptitude update?
[09:30] <jussi01> kaminix: yeah, did that for me too, but still works fine
[09:30] <jussi01> hello jono
[09:30] <kaminix> Hmm... think I had problems playing vob with that. I'll try removing it and stuff. 2s
[09:31] <jono> hey jussi01
[09:31] <storbeck> Yep, ran update, removed and reinstalled.
[09:31] <storbeck> All works fine.
[09:32] <user_____> hello
[09:32] <jussi01> hi
[09:32] <user_____> whats up
[09:35] <kaminix> Hm... works now.
[09:35] <kaminix> Anyway, what does this in the changelog mean?
[09:35] <kaminix>   * Automated backport upload; no source changes.
[09:35] <jussi01> kaminix: means that a program designed to backport uploaded it, (its the version from hardy)
[09:36] <kaminix> Ah, thanks.
[09:36] <jussi01> :)
[09:36] <kaminix> So kaffeine-xine is removed in Hardy?
[09:41] <noaXess> i'm searching a diff/merge tool with the following option: merge only lines that i want, edit while merging,.. i tried kdiff3, kompare.. but non of this two can that.. any hint?
[09:50]  * Signil is away: Out
[09:51] <jussi01> !away > Signil
[09:53] <jussi01> !info meld | noaXess
[09:53] <ubotu> noaxess: meld (source: meld): graphical tool to diff and merge files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.5.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 619 kB, installed size 2140 kB
[09:53] <stdin> never underestimate the power of logs! :p
[09:54] <jussi01> hehe
[09:54] <storbeck> What did he do?
[09:54] <noaXess> jussi01: okay... thanks
[09:54] <noaXess> jussi01: are there some screenshots?
[09:55] <stdin> Stoffer: used public away messages 4 times, after being warned not to each time
[09:55] <jussi01> Im not sure, but my colleaues say its the best...
[09:55] <noaXess> jussi01: than i will try..
[09:55] <storbeck> Ah
[09:55] <noaXess> jussi01: is there no problem with kde, cause the will be some phyton-gnome parts installed
[09:55] <noaXess> jussi01: found it.. http://meld.sourceforge.net
[09:55] <jussi01> noaXess: except you have extra libs, no
[09:56] <noaXess> okay
[09:57] <storbeck> My goodness, my ubuntu-desktop has been installing for an hour now O_O
[09:57] <noaXess> jussi01: wow it looks nice :)
[09:58] <jussi01> :)
[10:00] <ubuntu> hi it's my first time here
[10:06] <ere4si> !hi | ubuntu
[10:06] <ubotu> ubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:09] <noaXess> jussi01: meld is great.. that what i'm searching for :) thanks
[10:11] <jussi01> noaXess: great :)
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[10:15] <storbeck> !xorg
[10:15] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> lo each
[10:31] <pascalt> witam wszystkich
[10:31] <jpatrick> !pl | pascalt
[10:31] <ubotu> pascalt: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
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[10:45] <cri> ciao
[10:45] <jpatrick> !it | cri
[10:45] <ubotu> cri: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:30]  * MartinCleaver prods MartinsGustyWait
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[12:06] <amerigo_> I have a question... and i don't know if this is the right place to ask this... however...
[12:07] <amerigo_> i'm looking for a "pc suite" software or similar, for sony ericsson mobile
[12:07] <amerigo_> i need a software to connect my kubuntu using my mobile
[12:08] <amerigo_> somebody has an idea?
[12:08] <jussi01> !portables
[12:08] <ubotu> Guides for smartphones and portable devices can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/
[12:08] <jussi01> !info kmobiletools
[12:08] <ubotu> kmobiletools (source: kmobiletools): KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3.3-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 128 kB, installed size 484 kB
[12:08] <jussi01> amerigo_: ^
[12:08] <amerigo_> ubotu : thanks
[12:08] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[12:09] <jussi01> hehe
[12:09] <sausage_> /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-desktop/build: No such file or directory
[12:09] <sausage_> i keep getting that error when i attempt to make
[12:10] <jussi01> sausage_: make what?
[12:10] <sausage_> i got a source
[12:10] <sausage_> xpad360
[12:10] <sausage_> just trying to make in term
[12:11] <jussi01> can you point me to where you got it?
[12:11] <sausage_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=404577
[12:12] <sausage_> im trying to use my 360 usb controller for emulators
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[12:17] <sausage_> make modules -C /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-desktop/build SUBDIRS=/home/sausage/xpad360/xpad360
[12:17] <sausage_> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-desktop/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[12:17] <sausage_> make: *** [all] Error 2
[12:23] <skeil> ramba
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[12:27] <heath> hello all... I'm having problems upgrading to a new kernel... can anyone help?
[12:27] <intelikey> heath maybe.
[12:28] <heath> I am just trying to run apt-get upgrade, and the install hangs on running grub
[12:28] <intelikey> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:28] <amerigo_> I've seen this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/ but it's refered only to tranfer file...
[12:29] <amerigo_> i need something to use sony ericsson k608i like a modem...
[12:29] <intelikey> heath if that doesn't get it, let me know.
[12:30] <amerigo_> an obex tool i image
[12:30] <heath> yeah... the problem is I have a SATA card with mirrored drives and had to follow the fake raid how to to set up the system
[12:31] <heath> now I think grub can't figure out where my drives are... and I don't know how to install the kernel so I can do grub manually
[12:31] <jussi01> amerigo_: I think you can do that with kppp but im not certain
[12:32] <amerigo_> thank you again jussi
[12:33] <intelikey> heath umm edit /boot/grub/menu.lst by hand and add the new kernel+initramfs pair       sudo mv /usr/sbin/update-grub . && sudo ln -s /bin/true /usr/sbin/update-grub && sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:35] <intelikey> it's a work around for your particular issue.  not at all a fix.        you can later move the script "~/update-grub" back into /usr/sbin  if you want to.
[12:36] <intelikey> heath the replacing process goes thusly.   sudo rm /usr/sbin/update-grub && sudo mv ~/update-grub /usr/sbin
[12:36] <intelikey> just mentioned so you don't inadvertantly overwrite /bin/true
[12:37] <intelikey> which would be commical on some systems.   every time "true" was called it would update the menu.list  :)))
[12:38] <intelikey> although very anoying on others.
[12:38] <heath> wow that's a lot to take in...
[12:40] <Sbucatone> heya well my problem is this : i have installed open movie editor form repository but i have not effects so i know i must install a damned plug in :D but i can't get it
[12:40] <Sbucatone> anyone knows how to build that plug in
[12:40] <Sbucatone> ?
[12:40] <intelikey> heath also of note.  i think that the initramfs for the kernel is generated in the update-grub script.   so if the new one doesn't exist yet or is empty then#  sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initramfs.img-<the version you are working on> <the version you are working on>      <only if you need to manually generate a new one.
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[12:41] <heath> so basically I am moving update-grub so it will not run... linking true in update grubs place and what's the deconfigure going to do?
[12:42] <intelikey> heath the "<the version you are working on>" for the vmlinuz-<the version you are working on> and initramfs.img-<the version you are working on> must match the one you add to menu.lst
[12:42] <heath> if I just add those... do I need to do the firest thing you told me to do?
[12:42] <intelikey> heath in answer to your Q ^   it will finish setting up all updated packages that might have stalled because of the issue you faced
[12:42] <heath> first **
[12:43] <intelikey> heath yes
[12:44] <intelikey> if you don't let dpkg (or in this case "trick it into") finish setting up all packages then every time you "mess" with any package manager you will have the same problem
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[12:47] <rodolfo> #Ubuntu-es
[12:48] <intelikey> step 1.) sudo mv /usr/sbin/update-grub . && sudo ln -s /bin/true /usr/sbin/update-grub && sudo dpkg --configure -a  #<<< finishes installing/setting up all packages "we hope"     step 2.) sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst   #<<< which i actually mentioned first. and should be accompanied with something like (ls -l /boot)   is the point where you manually add the new kernel and initramfs.img pair in a listing in the menu list for g
[12:50] <intelikey> # <<< which is only ran if needed as per discovered in the "ls -l /boot" command   makes a new initramfs image      step 4.) sudo rm /usr/sbin/update-grub && sudo mv ~/update-grub /usr/sbin  # <<<simply puts things back to factory (sorta)
[12:51] <heath> thanks a ton for the help... I will give that a shot.
[12:51] <intelikey> there you have the whole thing in two posts     ^   copy and paste it some place safe.
[12:51] <intelikey> heath note*   replace all  <strings>
[12:52] <heath> will do
[12:52] <intelikey> i use  <blah>   to indicate you need to enter the correct information yourself
[12:52] <heath> if you turn on the news and Virgina has lost all power know it was me
[12:53] <intelikey> lol
[12:53] <pramod> Well there is a small thing that need to be changed about the flash plugin...
[12:54] <intelikey> if you can hack the electric gird with a bogus grub string or faulty initramfs    then they need the lights turned off just to wake them up
[12:54] <pramod> when i try to install superkaramba it goes to the site of "http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz" which no longer exists it seems...
[12:55] <pramod> anyone can help aboute how will i be able to install my superkaramba please???
[12:55] <MartinCleaver> Is there a dedicated channel for 64 bit users?
[12:56] <pramod> lol this is for all kubuntu users... :P
[12:56] <intelikey> !info superkaramba
[12:56] <ubotu> superkaramba (source: kdeutils): a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 533 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[12:56] <intelikey> enable universe and install
[12:56] <intelikey> !repos
[12:56] <jussi01> !flash64 | pramod
[12:56] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[12:56] <ubotu> pramod: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[12:57] <pramod> ok thanx
[12:57] <pramod> gonna try that
[13:01] <pramod> when i try to install super karamba it downloads flashplugin-nonfree from a site which no longer works... :(
[13:05] <intelikey> bah   why would this happen ?  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d59ecfe82
[13:07] <ahmos> hi, when i leave my computer turned on and don't use it for about 1-2 houres .it hangs on..is that an os problem?
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[13:10] <intelikey> ahmos basicly speaking    yes    that is to say that the operating system is where that is most likely "bugged"   i.e. amp acpi     that does not mean that it's origen is not, or that it can not be corrected; in a "user land" application.
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[13:13] <intelikey> or more aptly put.   it's more likely KDE that is causing it than the kernel
[13:13] <intelikey> and i might be so bold as to specify kubuntu's default setup of KDE
[13:14] <intelikey> ahmos now what version of ubuntu and what version of KDE are you using ?
[13:14] <ahmos> kubuntu 7.10
[13:15] <ahmos> and kde 3 as i think
[13:17] <andrew_> wow hardy is GREAT
[13:17] <ahmos> yes kde 3.5.8
[13:19] <intelikey> ahmos well if there are bugs related to that they should be on launchpad
[13:20] <intelikey> if there is a known issue and solution/work-around it should be in the forums
[13:20] <intelikey> or the wiki possably
[13:21] <ahmos> ok thank you intelikey for your time ;)
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[13:31] <Bhaal> Hey guys, someone get the bot to post me the link to the compiz howto again please?
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[13:44] <intelikey> !compiz
[13:44] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[13:45] <intelikey> ooops "just missed him"
[13:45] <Bhaal> Whats the best way to get compiz running for kubuntu?
[13:46] <intelikey> !compiz
[13:46] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[13:46] <intelikey> idk.  never tried.
[13:46] <Bhaal> Thank you
[13:46] <Bhaal> Thats what I was looking for :)
[13:47] <intelikey> yeah i posted it between your exit and re-entry    with an  ooops statement
[13:56] <intelikey> where are the apt policies stored ?
[13:57] <intelikey> i'd like to change this  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d59ecfe82
[13:57] <intelikey> and if a priority of 500 is causing that.  i'll fix it.
[13:58] <intelikey> that's just an area of apt that i have heretofore not delved into
[13:59] <intelikey> delved not into?          gramatic question
[13:59]  * intelikey stops talking to self now.
[14:04] <intelikey> nick Agent_bob
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[14:13] <DarthWar|Y> weird.. http://google.com/trends?q=%28open+suse%7Copensuse%29%2Cubuntu&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
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[14:31] <gerard> hello
[14:31] <vlt> Hello. I installed network-manager-openvpn. When I connect to an OpenVPN server using KNetworkManager instead of conf files my default route is set to the tun device. Why? How to avoid this?
[14:31] <gerard>  need help
[14:31] <vlt> !ask | gerard
[14:31] <ubotu> gerard: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:32] <gerard> installing a network printer
[14:32] <Dr_willis> is it ok if i ask abou asking to ask questions?
[14:32] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:32] <vlt> gerard: That's a difficult question.
[14:33] <gerard> ok can u help
[14:33] <vlt> gerard: What exactly is the problem?
[14:34] <Dr_willis> Whats the specific issue? ive installed my network printers rather easially
[14:34] <ahmos> hi, i need a powerful download manager program
[14:34] <Dr_willis> !find wget
[14:34] <ubotu> Found: wget, epiphany-extension-gwget, gwget, wget-el
[14:34] <Dr_willis> !info gwget
[14:34] <ubotu> gwget (source: gwget2): GNOME front-end for wget. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 230 kB, installed size 1292 kB
[14:34] <Dr_willis> No kde front end to wget! egads. :)
[14:34] <gerard> can't see print server
[14:35] <joseph> Dr_willis: why don't you develop one, eh?
[14:35] <Dr_willis> joseph,  i rarely need a download manager.
[14:35] <joseph> Dr_willis: it would be nice, though.
[14:35] <Dr_willis> go for it. :)
[14:35] <joseph> heh
[14:35] <joseph> if i could "code" more than configuring my irc client, i certainly would
[14:36] <pedro> !hardy
[14:36] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:36] <Dr_willis> !ibex
[14:36] <ubotu> Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex
[14:37] <pedro> does someone have the valve steam installed on kubuntu
[14:37] <pedro> ??
[14:37] <Dr_willis> pedro,  ive heard it works.. but i dont mess with it.
[14:37] <Dr_willis> the wine forums proberly discuss it in detail
[14:37] <Dr_willis> !appdb
[14:37] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[14:42] <vjsp> rcconf and sysv-rc-conf aren't showing all the /etc/init.d/ scripts, even when run by root.. why is that ?
[14:50] <pedro> i have an error on my wine
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[14:52] <ere4si> pedro: the good folks at #winehq might be best at helping
[14:54]  * Dr_willis agrees
[15:05] <croconile> ping
[15:06] <nosrednaekim> pong
[15:06] <croconile> no ops here :@
[15:07] <ere4si> !ping
[15:07] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[15:07] <nosrednaekim> oh yeah.... there are opps I think...
[15:07] <nosrednaekim> LOL
[15:07] <croconile> !ping
[15:07] <ere4si> !pong
[15:07] <ubotu> pong is an old atari game. It's fun!
[15:07] <croconile> hehe
[15:07] <ere4si> haha
[15:07] <croconile> I wanna cancel my kubuntu-shipit order
[15:08] <croconile> does anybody knows how ?
[15:08] <ere4si> ?
[15:08] <croconile> https://shipit.kubuntu.org/myrequest
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> great article here http://webserver.computoredge.com/online.mvc?zone=SD&session=4bbc82356eb89f89cea2cf170e093e4a
[15:08] <croconile> 1 CDs requested on 2008-02-20. 1 CDs were approved and sent to the shipping company on 2008-02-26. Please note requests usually take from 4 to 6 weeks to deliver, depending on the country of shipping.
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> croconile» why do you want to cancel?its free...
[15:09] <croconile> I don't want it
[15:09] <croconile> it's better to leave it for someone who acctually needs it
[15:09] <nosrednaekim> croconile» then throw it out.....  its probably a bit late for that
[15:10] <croconile> o
[15:10] <croconile> thx
[15:10] <Oakbox> Hi all, I just installed kde 4 along side my normal version, and now some of my application have changed style colours!  I cant seem to change it back..  has anyone got any ideas?
[15:10] <ere4si> !kde4
[15:10] <nosrednaekim> croconile» really, they are quite cheap....give it away to someone and the effect will be the same
[15:10] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox» what apps
[15:10] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[15:11] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox» any QT4 apps will change their style
[15:11] <Oakbox> nosrednaekim: skype and Texmaker
[15:11] <nosrednaekim> !info texmaker
[15:11] <ubotu> texmaker (source: texmaker): A Cross-Platform LaTeX Editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1401 kB, installed size 2940 kB
[15:12] <Oakbox> nosrednaekim: thanks do you know how  i change back the QT4 style?
[15:12] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox» yeah.. those are both QT4 apps.
[15:12] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox» you don't like the Oxygen look?
[15:13] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox» you can log into kde4, run its system settings, and change the style to something different
[15:13] <Oakbox> i tried that and it didnt work (im still using KDE 3.x) just wanted to see what KDE4 was like
[15:14] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox» that didn't work? what did you change the theme too?
[15:14] <nosrednaekim> clearlooks should have been close enough
[15:15] <Oakbox> nosrednaekim: erm tbh i can remember i think its was default colour scheme, all the colours changed in kde4 but not in kde 3.x
[15:15] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox» oh... your problem is with the colors?
[15:16] <Oakbox> nosrednaekim: yeah sorry though i said :S
[15:16] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox» ah.. you did.....my bad.
[15:16] <Oakbox> nosrednaekim: the dark colours are no good for me writing in my tex app i cant see anything properly :)
[15:17] <Oakbox> nosrednaekim: thats ok :)
[15:18] <Oakbox> i tried to purge kde4 and that didnt work either
[15:18] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox» right.... you changed it to a lighter scheme in kde4, and it changed their look within KDE4..... but when you logged into kde3 again, the colors were dark again. Thats the problem?
[15:18] <Oakbox> nosrednaekim: yes thats correct
[15:19] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox» let me find the qt4 style rc file.
[15:19] <Oakbox> nosrednaekim: thank you so much for you help :)
[15:20] <nosrednaekim> hmm,can't find one. try erasing your ~/.kde4
[15:21] <Oakbox> nosrednaekim: i tried that, but when i run texmaker it creates it again.... :(
[15:21] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox» it creates .kde4? wow.How did you uninstall kde4? exact command please.
[15:22] <Oakbox> erm sudo apt-get purge kde4-core
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[15:22] <Tm_T> !away > TimS
[15:22] <Tm_T> TimS: thanks ;)
[15:30] <Oakbox> Doh nosrednaekim has left i dont suppose anyone else coul help me with changing QT4 colours, kde4 changed them!
[15:31] <jussi01> Oakbox: try in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[15:31] <Oakbox> jussi01: thanks :)
[15:31] <Vermux> !xine
[15:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:31] <Vermux> !mplayer
[15:31] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[15:32] <ere4si> !ffmpeg
[15:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:33] <Vermux> what the difference between xine and mplayer?
[15:34] <Vermux> !codecs
[15:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:34] <jussi01> !info xine
[15:34] <ubotu> Package xine does not exist in gutsy
[15:34] <Vermux> ?
[15:34] <jussi01> hmm, xine is a backend iirc
[15:34] <blackflag-at-wor> hello all :)
[15:34] <ere4si> !hi
[15:34] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[15:34] <blackflag-at-wor> how can I download a directory via sftp?
[15:34] <blackflag-at-wor> can someone help?
[15:34] <Vermux> which package should I download? xine-ui?
[15:35] <jussi01> blackflag-at-wor: sftp:/address in konq
[15:35] <Vermux> xine-plugin?
[15:35] <blackflag-at-wor> I want to do this under console
[15:35] <jussi01> Vermux: it would help for you to tell us what you are trying to do?
[15:36] <jussi01> !scp
[15:36] <ubotu> SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[15:37] <blackflag-at-wor> ahh, is that not possible with sftp?
[15:37] <jussi01> blackflag-at-wor: I thin there will be a directory option for scp
[15:37] <blackflag-at-wor> yes, I was looking for this but can not find a hint
[15:37] <Oakbox> blackflag-at-wor: i think you can use -r on a dir :)
[15:38] <Vermux> jussi01: Im trying to watch the video in http://www.nrg.co.il/online/10/ART1/503/329.html
[15:38] <Oakbox> blackflag-at-wor: scp -r bob@remote:/dir ./ as an example
[15:38] <blackflag-at-wor> hmm, when I do get -r I get invalid command
[15:39] <Vermux> jussi01: it doesnt work
[15:39] <Vermux> jussi01: vlc doesnt play it
[15:39] <Vermux> jussi01: Im using firefox
[15:39] <jussi01> !enter | Vermux
[15:39] <ubotu> Vermux: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:40] <Vermux> jussi01: since cuplayer cannot be used under Linux, I installed the followingL http://userstyles.org/styles/2208
[15:41] <Oakbox> blackflag-at-wor: or scp bob@remote:/dir/* ./       i know something like that works...
[15:41] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox» sorry, I had to go... did you fix it?
[15:42] <Oakbox> nosrednaekim: no i havent :( no one else seems to have an answer for me
[15:42] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox» how did you remove kde4? you probably didn't remove everything.
[15:42] <Oakbox> nosrednaekim: i did: sudo apt-get purge ked4-core
[15:43] <Oakbox> nosrednaekim: thats all i did to install it....
[15:43] <blackflag-at-wor> ahh cool that works, thanks!
[15:43] <Oakbox> blackflag-at-wor: np :)
[15:43] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox» ok, now you need to do "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[15:43] <blackflag-at-wor> Im wondering how to to this with sftp, is there a way?
[15:44] <Oakbox> nosrednaekim: aah ok i will give it a go
[15:44] <nosrednaekim> blackflag-at-wor» to do what? sorry, I got here a bit late
[15:45] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox» kde4-core is simply a metapackage
[15:45] <blackflag-at-wor> download a directory with sftp
[15:45] <nosrednaekim> so removing it does almost nothing
[15:46] <blackflag-at-wor> I was only able to download a file but not a directory
[15:46] <jussi01> blackflag-at-wor: man sftp ;)
[15:46] <blackflag-at-wor> hmm i was looking at man, I will look again!!
[15:47] <Oakbox> nosrednaekim: aah good to know, though you will not like my results :) it still has the dark colours and the .kde4 dir still comes back when i run texmaker once i have deleted it.... :(
[15:47] <blackflag-at-wor> thanks for help!!!
[15:47] <nosrednaekim> man doesn't say anything about Dir's that I can see
[15:48] <nosrednaekim> then again... it doesn't say ti doesn't work for dirs
[15:48] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox» humph...
[15:48] <Vermux> jussi01: any solution?
[15:48] <Oakbox> nosrednaekim: yeah :) buggin me too
[15:49] <Bayko> hello
[15:50] <Bayko> everytime i try to bring up google it gives cant access server
[15:50] <jussi01> Vermux: Im playing around with it
[15:50] <Bayko> same with every page
[15:50] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox» what doe "apt-cache policy kdebase-bin-kde4" say
[15:50] <nosrednaekim> Bayko» does ping work?
[15:50] <Bayko> no
[15:50] <nosrednaekim> Bayko» but IRC does?
[15:50] <Bayko> strangley enough
[15:51] <Bayko> konqueror and firefox both
[15:51] <Oakbox> blackflag-at-wor: can you use sftp with wile char to do it like scp ./*
[15:51] <Bayko> would playing around nmap cause this
[15:51] <nosrednaekim> Bayko» try pinging an IP....."ping 72.14.205.103"
[15:51] <Bayko> k sec
[15:51] <Oakbox> nosrednaekim:
[15:51] <Oakbox> kdebase-bin-kde4:
[15:51] <Oakbox>   Installed: (none)
[15:51] <nosrednaekim> Bayko» maybe...depends who you are nmaping ;)
[15:51] <Oakbox>   Candidate: 4:4.0.1-0ubuntu2~gutsy1~ppa1
[15:51] <Oakbox>   Version table:
[15:51] <Oakbox>      4:4.0.1-0ubuntu2~gutsy1~ppa1 0
[15:51] <Oakbox>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net gutsy/main Packages
[15:52] <oem> how can I try KDE4 using apt-get
[15:52] <nosrednaekim> !kde4
[15:52] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[15:52] <jussi01> !paste | Oakbox
[15:52] <ubotu> Oakbox: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:52] <Bayko> cant ping by ip or domain
[15:52] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox» pastebin..... but ok.
[15:52] <jussi01> nosrednaekim: Oakbox please take the kde4 discussion to #kubuntu-kde4
[15:53] <Bayko> would playing in Nmap cause me to lose cxn to google intermittently?
[15:53] <oem> is there a way I can upgrade to kde4 without using the image cd?
[15:54] <Bayko> arggg
[15:54] <jussi01> !kde4 | oem
[15:54] <ubotu> oem: KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
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[15:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[15:57] <jussi01> hello BluesKaj
[15:57] <Oakbox> jussi01: sorry im new at this irc stuff :s
[15:57] <BluesKaj> hi jussi01
[15:57] <jussi01> Oakbox: your fine ;)
[16:01] <Vermux> jussi01: I installed xine. how do I tell FFOx to use xine to watch that video?
[16:02] <ccvp> hahahha, a clean install of ubuntu 7.10, needs "196 update patches" out of the box.............thats 1,000 worse then windows ever was with security patches/updates.
[16:03] <trappist> ccvp: of course, ubuntu comes with 1000x more software than windows...
[16:03] <nosrednaekim> ccvp» they aren't all securty related I don't think
[16:04] <ccvp> i know
[16:04] <ccvp> even some of the windows update patches
[16:04] <ccvp> arent all security related,
[16:04] <ccvp> they add more functionality
[16:04] <ccvp> but ..........196 from a 7.10 current iso?
[16:04] <ccvp> jeez
[16:05] <Vermux> how do I tell firefox to use xine to watch a video in a website?
[16:05] <ccvp> vermux, awwww
[16:05] <ccvp> your from chicago
[16:05] <ccvp> you supporting "obama" :) ?
[16:05] <jussi01> !ot
[16:05] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[16:05] <ccvp> heh
[16:05] <Vermux> ccvp: no
[16:05] <BluesKaj> Vermux: install the mozilla-xine plugin
[16:06] <Vermux> go back tu russia
[16:06] <ccvp> what is "kubuntu" heh, i always thought it was a channel typo
[16:06] <ccvp> and people simply idled in a typo'd chat room
[16:06] <ccvp> :)
[16:06] <jussi01> !kubuntu
[16:06] <Daisuke_Ido> ccvp: yes, but these patches tend to be a bit smaller, and while a single windows update patch will patch an entire app, a linux patch has a separate entry for each part of the application
[16:06] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[16:06] <Vermux> BluesKaj: I have it installed
[16:07] <ccvp> my 196 patches just installed
[16:07] <ccvp> time to reboot heh
[16:07] <ccvp> on the laptop
[16:07] <Anas> i use kmess as hotmail messenger but i cannt see any yahoo contacts i already have yahoo contacts in my hot messenger is there any way to see them? or is there other program i can use allow me to handle both contacts?
[16:07] <jussi01> Anas: kopete
[16:07] <jussi01> !kopete | Anas
[16:07] <ubotu> Anas: Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !gaim
[16:08] <ccvp> I wiped out Vista on my Vostro 1500, that has Core 2 Duo T7250(2.0 ghz), 2gig ram, Nvidia 8400M GS, 160gb 7200 RPM HD, 15.4" wxga+ monitor
[16:08] <ccvp> will this laptop run 7.10 decent?
[16:08] <jussi01> ccvp: that should be more than fine
[16:08] <nosrednaekim> ccvp» yes
[16:08] <ccvp> its a dell laptop
[16:08] <ccvp> im gonna check to see if wireless works after reboot
[16:09] <Daisuke_Ido> ccvp: what's the wireless chipset?
[16:09] <ccvp> dunno
[16:09] <ccvp> reboot will check after
[16:09] <ccvp> but overall so far the OS seems snapier/more responsive
[16:09] <BluesKaj> Vermux:  some sites use flash, like youtube , others windows media type video , so make sure you have the 'flash plugin-nonfree' installed too
[16:09] <ccvp> then Vista did
[16:09] <Anas> i dont have yahoo account but i have yahoo clients on hotmail account kobete let me open yahoo account and hotmail account did anyone get what i want to say
[16:10] <nosrednaekim> Anas» i'm afraid not...
[16:10] <jussi01> Anas: I understand. they should all show up in kmess
[16:11] <Vermux> BluesKaj: cant find it in search
[16:11] <Anas> no i can see only hotmail contacts
[16:11] <jussi01> Anas: You are talking about yahoo addresses using msn messenger accounts correct?
[16:11] <Vermux> BluesKaj: how do i use xine to watch a video when using firefox?
[16:11] <ccvp> hmmmm weird
[16:11] <ccvp> evidently everything works
[16:11] <ccvp> except my sound
[16:12] <jussi01> ccvp: do you know which sound card?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> it's automatic...it depends what the site uses ..could be flashplugin-nonfree is what you need
[16:12] <ccvp> http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/product_support/en/product_support_central?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd
[16:12] <ccvp> thats my laptop
[16:12] <SpamInaCan> when i load up the new alpha (and all older versions) this happens on my screen can i fix this???, http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo02hr0.jpg
[16:12] <Vermux> BluesKaj: I have the flash plugin installed
[16:12] <BluesKaj> well, stuff to do ..bbl
[16:13] <ccvp> STAC 92XX C-Major HD Audio
[16:13] <Anas> i add yahoo email for friends to my hotmail messenger i dont have yahoo email on kmess i log to my hotmail but i cannt see any of yahoo contacts
[16:13] <jussi01> ccvp: thats an intel one correct?
[16:13] <ccvp> checking
[16:13] <ccvp> Dell Sigmatel STAC 92XX C-Major HD Audio
[16:14] <jussi01> hrrrm... not sure on those, they might be the same chipset as the intel ones
[16:14] <SpamInaCan> please help me.....
[16:14] <jussi01> !sound | ccvp first try this
[16:14] <ubotu> ccvp first try this: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[16:14] <jussi01> SpamInaCan: patience, im looking
[16:14] <Vermux> Is there something similar to  multimedia connectivity application in firefox?
[16:15] <nosrednaekim> SpamInaCan» wow... thats  an error I only saw in KDE4
[16:15] <SpamInaCan> that is not kde4....
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[16:15] <SpamInaCan> this happens in every version (or well kubuntu and ubuntu) i have tried
[16:15] <Anas> jussi01: i add yahoo email for friends to my hotmail messenger i dont have yahoo email on kmess i log to my hotmail but i cannt see any of yahoo contacts
[16:15] <jussi01> !intelhda | ccvp: if it doesnt work you can try this
[16:16] <ubotu> ccvp: if it doesnt work you can try this: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[16:16] <nosrednaekim> SpamInaCan» from what I recall, it was a problem with X resolution detection.....this happened on gutsy too?
[16:16] <mot> how do i burn a dvd .img file to a cd?
[16:16] <SpamInaCan> and this is not an old laptop btw..., its brand spankin new... i got it on valentines day.....
[16:16] <jussi01> I got to run, see you all later.
[16:17] <SpamInaCan> yes, i have tried the alpha of kubuntu (in the pix...), 7.10 (ubuntu/kubuntu) 7.04 (ubuntu/kubuntu)
[16:18] <Daisuke_Ido> SpamInaCan: i was trying to answer in the other channel
[16:18] <Daisuke_Ido> install krandrtray
[16:18] <SpamInaCan> well my res is 1024x800 :)
[16:18] <Daisuke_Ido> a nice convenient little app that's saved my but when that's happened
[16:18] <Daisuke_Ido> 1024 or 1280?
[16:19] <SpamInaCan> 1280 oppps
[16:19] <SpamInaCan> so it is loading 1024x786?
[16:19] <Vermux> how do I open asp file?
[16:20] <SpamInaCan> x is loading right since my mouse can go over in that area right?
[16:20] <SpamInaCan> vermux asp is windows....
[16:20] <Vermux> asf object?
[16:20] <nosrednaekim> SpamInaCan» I suppose....
[16:20] <Vermux> I want to open asf video
[16:20] <SpamInaCan> i like the bigger res (lol)
[16:20] <ccvp> jussi01
[16:21] <ccvp> i think i found a thread on ubuntuforums.org that solves it
[16:21] <ccvp> sudo apt-get install module-assistant
[16:21] <ccvp> m-a update
[16:21] <ccvp> m-a prepare
[16:21] <ccvp> m-a a-i alsa
[16:21] <ccvp> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=5d3c2b1a097e5f94804f4501f369cd43&t=569082&page=2
[16:21] <Daisuke_Ido> SpamInaCan: yeah, you're going to need krandrtray, or some way of changing your resolution
[16:22] <nosrednaekim> SpamInaCan» this is a liveCD, right?
[16:22] <Daisuke_Ido> should be a matter of just switching it to 1280x800
[16:22] <Vermux> where is mplayer located in the computer?
[16:22] <harmental> hey guys...is it normal that "echo $TMP" returns a blank line?
[16:22] <SpamInaCan> yes live cd
[16:22] <SpamInaCan> brb gotta toss stuff in dryer
[16:22] <harmental> (im trying to solve kded overload problem)
[16:23] <ccvp> seems theres an issue
[16:23] <ccvp> when plugging in usb headphones
[16:23] <ccvp> and vice versa taking out, sound will perm come through speakers, and not redirect to headsets heh
[16:23] <ccvp> reading more . . . .
[16:24] <SpamInaCan> bk
[16:27] <SpamInaCan> will my RTL8187B (wifi card) work on linux?
[16:28] <SpamInaCan> do i need ndiswrapper or anything like that?
[16:28] <nosrednaekim> SpamInaCan» if it doesn't work out of the box, ndiswrapper should fix it up:)
[16:29] <ere4si> !wireless | SpamInaCan
[16:29] <ubotu> SpamInaCan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:29] <ccvp> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller
[16:29] <ere4si> !info ndiswrapper
[16:29] <SpamInaCan> am i going to have to change my res every boot?
[16:30] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in gutsy
[16:30] <nosrednaekim> SpamInaCan» if you keep using the liveCD, yes ;)
[16:30] <Vermux> how do I find where Mplayer is installed, so firefox can use it to open files?
[16:30] <SpamInaCan> !info ndiswrapper-ultis
[16:30] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper-ultis does not exist in gutsy
[16:30] <oem_> how to make java to work in konqueor
[16:30] <SpamInaCan> !info ndiswrapper*
[16:30] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in gutsy
[16:31] <SpamInaCan> nosrednaekim live cd for testing :)
[16:31] <nosrednaekim> SpamInaCan» well, if you install, you will not have to change the res every time
[16:31] <mrx_> hi. i am first-time user of kubuntu and got some problems... somebody help?
[16:32] <SpamInaCan> btw before i run what version of ubuntu should i install?
[16:32] <SpamInaCan> 8.0x or 7.10?
[16:32] <ere4si> mrx_, you just state your prob here then whoever knows will answer
[16:33] <mrx_> i can not install any packages with package manager
[16:33] <Arwen> I'm trying to setup my own apt repository, anyone got any advice on cheap/free hosting plans?
[16:33] <SpamInaCan> why not mrx?
[16:33] <SpamInaCan> arwen you could use launchpad :)
[16:33] <Arwen> say what? lol
[16:33] <ere4si> 8.04 comes out in april SpamInaCan  - it is beta 'till then
[16:33] <SpamInaCan> what
[16:33] <mrx_> there is some java programs i tried to install, but they were likely to be faulty and i can not remove them from package manager?
[16:34] <Arwen> what was that about launchpad?
[16:34] <SpamInaCan> what?*** (sorry.....)
[16:34] <SpamInaCan> yes you can host your own repo on launchpad :)
[16:34] <nosrednaekim> SpamInaCan» 7.10 for now.
[16:35] <nosrednaekim> !PPA | Arwen
[16:35] <ubotu> Arwen: With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.
[16:35] <SpamInaCan> Thanks everyone for there help :D
[16:35] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, no thanks, not till they let me use gpg keys
[16:35] <jpatrick> Arwen: they do
[16:35] <mrx_> how do i install mplayer+
[16:36] <SpamInaCan> mrx_ very carefully?, well cya peeps i have to run to work :D
[16:36] <jpatrick> !mplayer
[16:36] <jpatrick> !info mplayer | mrx_
[16:36] <SpamInaCan> !info wesnoth
[16:36] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[16:36] <Pici> Wait for it... some people are abusing the bot in #ubuntu
[16:36] <ubotu> mrx_: mplayer (source: mplayer): The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13.1 (gutsy), package size 3775 kB, installed size 9428 kB
[16:36] <ubotu> wesnoth (source: wesnoth): fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.6-1ubuntu2.4 (gutsy), package size 1963 kB, installed size 4472 kB
[16:37] <mrx_> package manager does not work
[16:37] <SpamInaCan> mrx did you enable the extra repos?
[16:37] <ere4si> mrx_, have you got all the repositories enabled?
[16:38] <mrx_> don't know??? what is that?
[16:38] <mrx_> i am just used to windows
[16:38] <harmental> guys...could you please share with me what is the output you find for: echo $TMP
[16:38] <ere4si> !repos | mrx_
[16:38] <ubotu> mrx_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[16:39] <Vermux> I used konqueror instead of ffox to open the video and it works
[16:39] <Vermux> no need for ugly xine or mplayer
[16:40] <Daisuke_Ido> harmental: i get nothing.
[16:40] <nosrednaekim> harmental» blank
[16:40] <harmental> nosrednaekim: shouldnt TMP poit towards /tmp?
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[16:41] <nosrednaekim> not if its not a global variable
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[16:41] <nosrednaekim> "echo $ETC" doesn't show anything if you know what I mean.
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[16:43] <harmental> nosrednaekim: oooh....Another question then.....im experiencing some serious issues after upgrading to kde 3.5.9.....every time i plug a usb drive the kded process overloads mi proc....(90% actually)....also i can only mount one drive...the second one is not even recognized......
[16:44] <harmental> i need desperate help here.....
[16:44] <mrunagi> desperste help?
[16:44] <mrunagi> er
[16:44] <mrunagi> k
[16:44]  * mrunagi hushes
[16:44] <harmental> "desperate"...:oP
[16:44] <nosrednaekim> you desperately need help;)
[16:44] <mrunagi> yea i do
[16:44] <mrunagi> i now run 3 operating systems
[16:44] <mrunagi> whats WRONG with me!
[16:45] <harmental> well...something like that...
[16:45] <nosrednaekim> harmental» uhhh.... is the second one recognized by dmesg?
[16:45] <rewati> hello i have problem with my wifi can somebuddy help
[16:45] <harmental> nosrednaekim: what??
[16:45] <nosrednaekim> rewati» whats the problem?
[16:46] <rewati> i am not able to connect to wireless
[16:46] <rewati> my wifi is running
[16:46] <mrunagi> !wireless
[16:46] <nosrednaekim> harmental» uhh... wait.... you are plugging in two USB drives at the same time?
[16:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:46] <Vermux> is there a utility for fire fox that controls multimedia?
[16:46] <rewati> wifi led is on
[16:46] <mrunagi> rewati: doesnt always mean its set up right
[16:47] <rewati> i used restricted driver
[16:47] <rewati> it was workin then
[16:47] <mrx_> can not get it to work even though repositories are right =((
[16:47] <rewati> i am not able to see the available network
[16:47] <harmental> nosrednaekim: first i plug one usb drive in one slot....i gets automatically mounted but kded starts eating up my precious clock cycles, then (without unplugging the first drive) i plug a second HDD into another usb slot.....but it doesnt even get mounted...
[16:48] <mrx_> watching divx movies with Caffeine player lags terrible...
[16:48] <nosrednaekim> harmental» I see.
[16:48] <nosrednaekim> rewati» but it was working before?
[16:48] <rewati> yes
[16:48] <mrunagi> then use the restricted driver..
[16:49] <rewati> i was workin on my wire less
[16:49] <rewati> but now somethin went wrong and i am not able to connect to the available network
[16:49] <nosrednaekim> rewati» probably your interfaces file.... run this command "kdesudo kate /etc/network/interfaces" and erase(or comment out) the section that refers to your wireless card
[16:50] <jackault> what's the difference between kdesudo and normal sudo ?
[16:51] <nosrednaekim> !kdesudo
[16:51] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[16:51] <rewati> nosrednaekim
[16:51] <rewati> auto lo
[16:51] <rewati> iface lo inet loopback
[16:51] <rewati> address 127.0.0.1
[16:51] <rewati> netmask 255.0.0.0
[16:51] <rewati> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[16:51] <rewati> auto eth1
[16:51] <rewati> this is my output
[16:52] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[16:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:52] <mrx_> i get some error like "An error was found when the changes should be archieved" when i try install stuff with package manager..... what is wrong?
[16:52] <nosrednaekim> rewati» ok,comment out (put a # before) the lines refering to eth1
[16:53] <mrunagi> pasting in channel ftw
[16:54] <rewati> nosrednaekim i did it on last to line
[16:54] <nosrednaekim> ok... save the file.
[16:55] <rewati> i did that
[16:56] <Arwen> ick, ppa sucks
[16:56] <Arwen> anyone got any ideas about free hosting?
[16:56] <rewati> nosrednaekim now what to do
[16:56] <jackault> Wow, I could've used that tip about kdesudo a long time ago. I kept messing up permissions of stuff cause of it....
[16:57] <nosrednaekim> rewati» "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[16:57]  * BluesKaj now has a vehicle free of road salt ..yesss!
[16:57] <nosrednaekim> rewati» a "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" might be neccesary to put knetworkmanager back in line
[16:58] <rewati> it says ignoring unknown interface eth1
[16:58] <genii> BluesKaj: Too bad it's gonna snow again soon
[16:58] <rewati> nosrednaekim it says ignoring unknown interface eth1
[16:58] <nosrednaekim> rewati» pastebin the results of "iwconfig"
[16:59] <BluesKaj> let it snow ...it had to be done , was bugging me.We're getting a few flurries but nothing substantial, genii
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> !info kdm
[17:00] <ubotu> kdm (source: kdebase): X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 648 kB, installed size 1568 kB
[17:00] <MurielGodoi> Hi,  I got 'NTFS Signature is missing' when trying to mount my ntfs partition, Had anyone faced that before?
[17:01] <rewati> nosrednaekim http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57834/
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> rewati» looks good.
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> rewati» is knetworkmanager working now?
[17:02] <jackault> I know kde4 can be installed pretty easily on the existing kubuntu but any idea on when it's becoming default?
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> !khardy
[17:02] <ubotu> Kubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 4 should be offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD will be commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 will be community supported.
[17:03] <jpatrick> jackault: Alpha 5 had KDE 4
[17:08] <jackault> Ah, thanks nosrednaekim, jpatrick
[17:09] <frank232> will kde4 be in the main repository for hardy?
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[17:11] <mrx_> i get the error : error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.... when i try to open mplayer video. what is wrong?
[17:13] <nosrednaekim> frank232» YES
[17:15] <Arwen> wtf, I uploaded a package to PPA and it doesn't show up...
[17:16] <harmental> what are the "unsupported packages" in adept....is it safe to use them?
[17:16] <harmental> and also...Whats the difference between "safe upgrade" and "full upgrade"?
[17:16] <nosrednaekim> Arwen» takes a while for it to build
[17:17] <nosrednaekim> Arwen» BTW... #launchpad would probably be better
[17:17] <Arwen> oh yeah, do I upload to "~anon32" or "anon32"?
[17:17] <runlevelten> The clues are in the words "unsupported", "safe", and "full". :)
[17:17] <Arwen> and ok...
[17:17] <runlevelten> harmental: ^
[17:17] <sigma_1234> how do you network linux with a apple mac?
[17:17] <nosrednaekim> harmental» unsupported are usually quite safe, they are just not commercially supported
[17:18] <harmental> nosrednaekim: thats the answer i was looking for...thx!
[17:18] <sigma_1234> !apple
[17:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:18] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234» NFS should work
[17:18] <harmental> nosrednaekim: what about safe and full upgrades?
[17:18] <sigma_1234> !mac
[17:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:18] <runlevelten> !nfs
[17:18] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[17:18] <runlevelten> !samba
[17:18] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[17:19] <nosrednaekim> harmental» not sure about that....full upgrade might be to hardy, but I kinda doubt that
[17:20] <frank232> nosrednaekim: harmental: full upgrade might be dist-upgrade and safe upgrade just upgrade but I'm not sure
[17:22] <harmental> nosrednaekim: and how do i upgrade to hardy? is it enough to change gutsy to hardy in my sources?
[17:22] <PriceChild> !hardy | harmental
[17:22] <ubotu> harmental: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> harmental» yes... but you rpobably don't want to do that
[17:23] <harmental> nosrednaekim: actually im trying to solve this fu*** kded problem....
[17:23] <harmental> i wondered i maybe hardy got the answer....
[17:23] <nosrednaekim> harmental» it may.... but if it does, its probably bound to have a ton more problems.
[17:24] <harmental> nosrednaekim: ok...so what should i do..its really difficult to work like this....
[17:24] <harmental> y usb drives are very important......
[17:26] <nosrednaekim> harmental» indeed....first of all, please file a bug.... second.... I don't know....
[17:27] <harmental> there already some bugs posted...but not visible answer
[17:27] <rewati> hi
[17:28] <nosrednaekim> hi rewatidid you get it fixed?
[17:28] <nosrednaekim> harmental» hum.. you could always try to use kde4 :)
[17:29] <rewati> ya its showin network but i am unable to connect into it
[17:31] <rewati> nosrednaekim ya its showin network but i am unable to connect into it
[17:31] <harmental> nosrednaekim: done that...but kde4 is really buggy right now....
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> rewati» is it encrypted?
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> harmental» ok.
[17:32] <nosrednaekim> harmental» when did you last try it?
[17:32] <harmental> last week.....didnt like it....
[17:33] <nosrednaekim> ah..ok
[17:33] <Anas> i havr LMME src i want to install it how could i install from source??
[17:33] <nosrednaekim> !source
[17:33] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[17:33] <coreymon77> are we sure we need to do it with the source?
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[17:34] <coreymon77> no binary ppackages?
[17:34] <rewati> nosrednaekim no
[17:35] <nosrednaekim> rewati» well you can alwasy connect from the command line then
[17:35] <rewati> nosrednaekim ok how to do that
[17:36] <nosrednaekim> rewati» well, run "sudo iwconfig eth1 ESSID DeDE && sudo dhclient eth1"
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[17:36] <coreymon77> ooh
[17:36] <coreymon77> wifi problems
[17:37] <coreymon77> darn no time to help though
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[17:38] <javier>  
[17:38] <Anas> i think i was use make , make install is that right?? i allready download the src
[17:40] <reese> hi. i just configured a gprs bluetooth connection, but I'm having problem connecting msn with kopete.. is there some files that I have to configure in order to make it work?
[17:41] <kamesh> Anas: 1) ./configure 2) make 3) make install
[17:41] <rewati> nosrednaekim its not workin givin some error
[17:41] <kamesh> You should first try and read the readme file and the install file
[17:41] <kamesh> they should have detailed descriptions
[17:41] <nosrednaekim> rewati» BRB....
[17:42] <rewati> nosrednaekim BRB????
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[17:43] <jackaultbutnot> rewati: It means that he'll be right back. What was the problem you're facing?
[17:43] <kamesh> BRB : be right back
[17:44] <rewati> actually i am not able to work with my wireless
[17:44] <rewati> its showing available network but its not connecting
[17:44] <JoeJoe> Kubuntu installation appearantly divided my harddrive into three sections. The sections were linux is accessible, but i get the error message "Hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000" when i try to access the two others. what is wrong?
[17:44] <kamesh> rewati@ try restarting your ADSl
[17:45] <rewati> ADSl ????
[17:45] <kamesh> joejoe @ is that partition ntfs formatted
[17:45] <kamesh> ADSL
[17:45] <kamesh> rewati @ how are you connected to the internet ?
[17:46] <kamesh> through a wireless device in your home called ADSL (like dlink etcc..)
[17:46] <rewati> right now i am connect through ethernet
[17:47] <kamesh> power it of first and then wait for 10 sec and then power it on..
[17:47] <kamesh> check if this works or not
[17:47] <JoeJoe> kamesh. i don't know???
[17:48] <JoeJoe> can i format the partion in kubuntu?
[17:48] <kamesh> joejoe @ is it on an external usb device ?
[17:49] <JoeJoe> no
[17:49] <JoeJoe> it's just a different partion
[17:49] <JoeJoe> one harddrive
[17:50] <kamesh> joejoe @ click on Startmenu (Kmenu) > system settings > (go to Advanced tab) > click on Disk and File systems
[17:50] <Anas> kamesh: i tried ./configure i got bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[17:51] <kamesh> joejoe @ then you could see the partitions there and the type of formatting as well
[17:51] <rewati> kamesh i amm conected through ethernet
[17:51] <kamesh> then report back tlo me
[17:52] <kamesh> Anas @ You have to be in that directory and then do ./configure
[17:52] <reese> anybody else having problems with the msn account with kopete?
[17:52] <reese> or is it just me?
[17:52] <Anas> kamesh:i know that and i did that
[17:52] <kamesh> Anas @ Can you find configure file in that directory ?
[17:53] <JoeJoe> kamesh, and then what=?
[17:53] <jackaultbutnot> reese: I can login just fine. What error does it show you?
[17:54] <Anas> kamesh@ no but theere is Makefile.am & Makefile.in
[17:54] <kamesh> JoeJoe @ Check if the partition you are having problems with is an ntfs one.. because ntfs partitions usually have this problem
[17:55] <JoeJoe> the second partion says Type:ext3 and is /dev/sda2??++
[17:56] <BluesKaj> kamesh @ ,...what is the @ supposed to do
[17:57] <JoeJoe> what should i do??
[17:57] <BluesKaj> kamesh:  drop the @ it doesn't do anything , the nick is highlighted if it's spelled properly.The @ does nothing on irc.
[18:02] <kamesh> Anas: try "make all-recursive"
[18:02] <yuji> is there a way to start a new shell starting in the same directory ?
[18:02] <kamesh> sorry guys I have to leave now
[18:02] <kamesh> ciao
[18:03] <Anas> kamesh: make: *** No rule to make target `all-recursive'.  Stop.
[18:07] <voicu> hi, i'm running proftpd on a computer i have it takes ages to connect from another computer in the local network. the transfer speed is fine though (up to 10mb/s). any idea why?
[18:17] <BanTam> can Konquerer be safely removed withoutbreaking anything?
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> BanTam» I wouldn't bet on it...
[18:18] <BanTam> thats what i was thinking..lol
[18:19] <nosrednaekim> BanTam» you could always give it a shot and see what it tries to take with it
[18:19] <anas> hi
[18:32] <ccvp> http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=censeilk5.jpg
[18:32] <ccvp> lol
[18:34] <jpatrick> !ot | ccvp
[18:34] <ubotu> ccvp: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[18:35] <ccvp> what's a good, high quality, app to virtually mount bin/cue/iso files in ubuntu?
[18:37] <SlimeyPete> ccvp: for iso all you need is the mount command
[18:37] <SlimeyPete> not sure about the others though.
[18:39] <ccvp> http://www.slysoft.com/en/virtual-clonedrive.html
[18:39] <ccvp> i just may run that in wine
[18:42] <frank232> ccvp: that wont work in wine
[18:42] <ccvp> ?
[18:43] <frank232> ccvp: that definitely has a windows driver which won't be emulated by wine
[18:43] <ccvp> hmmm
[18:43] <ccvp> its not loading on double click
[18:43] <ccvp> gonna rm it bleh
[18:43] <ccvp> what is native in linux i can use instead?
[18:43] <chronos__> Does kubuntu have a codec pack aside from kubuntu-restricted?
[18:43] <frank232> ccvp: cdemu and acetoneiso can create virtual drives in linux.
[18:43] <ccvp> apt-get install acetoneiso?
[18:44] <frank232> ccvp: um i'm not sure if aceoneiso is in the repos
[18:45] <chronos__> You can for sure get it from kdelook
[18:47] <ccvp> wtf, i just randomly remembered a weird dream i had last night . . . odd.......... i walked into my basement, and saw a secret trap door, that was covered by cob webs, and below that basement, was like a basement from the 1700's.....old ancient valuables......there were 250 yr old vultures , that were albino and still alive . . . .besides valuable stamps and other items, that were long lost....
[18:48] <ccvp> a hidden basement, below a basement
[18:51] <ccvp> cdemu.sourceforge.net - a decent package?
[18:56] <Arwen> ccvp, well, Linux can already mount ISO images
[18:56] <Arwen> so unless you need one of the conversion tools in it
[18:57] <SlimeyPete> !iso
[18:57] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[19:00] <chronos__> !codec
[19:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:04] <rewati> hi there
[19:05] <rewati> my sound is notworkin on laptop
[19:05] <rewati> can anybody help
[19:05] <rewati> me
[19:06] <rewati> my sound is notworkin on laptop can anybody help me
[19:08] <jpatrick> !sound | rewati
[19:08] <ubotu> rewati: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:08] <jpatrick> !repeat > rewati
[19:08] <El-Notorio-K-Dog> Testing my IRC client
[19:09] <jackaultbutnot> !mp3
[19:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:09] <El-Notorio-K-Dog> amigo: do you readme ?
[19:10] <amigo> El-Notorio-K-Dog: нуы
[19:10] <amigo> El-Notorio-K-Dog: yes
[19:10] <El-Notorio-K-Dog> aigh't
[19:10] <El-Notorio-K-Dog> ;)
[19:10] <El-Notorio-K-Dog> tnx
[19:10] <El-Notorio-K-Dog> exit
[19:11] <rewati> hi my sound is not workin sm1 can help
[19:11] <Arwen> gcc options look really funny... "-funroll-loops"
[19:11] <Arwen> funrolls!
[19:11] <Arwen> (and yes, I know that's -f + "unroll-loops")
[19:12] <zimon> rewati: is arts running?
[19:13] <rewati> zimon how to check that
[19:13] <zimon> ps aux |grep artsd
[19:13] <Juzam> Is it possible to install Kubuntu on a RAID-0-Array?
[19:13] <rewati> zimon ya i think so it is giving two process name
[19:15] <zimon> rewati: ok. what's the output of "lspci |grep -i audio" and "cat /proc/asound/card*/codec* |grep -i codec" ?
[19:16] <rewati> zimon 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[19:17] <rewati> zimon
[19:17] <rewati> Codec: SigmaTel STAC9228
[19:17] <rewati> Codec: Conexant ID 2c06
[19:18] <zimon> rewati: alright. exactly the same as mine. that isn't supported by ubuntu's snd-hda-intel driver ... they misconfigured something
[19:18] <rewati> zimon ok then how to get it work
[19:18] <zimon> rewati: you need to get ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.16.tar.bz2 and compile the driver manually
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[19:21] <frank232> !ubotu
[19:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:21] <rewati> zimon i downloaded it now how to compile it and install it
[19:21] <zimon> rewati: you need to run ./configure --with-cards=hda-intel --with-card-options=hda-codec-sigmatel,hda-codec-conexant
[19:22] <zimon> rewati: for the steps: see INSTALL and README
[19:38] <rewati> zimon are u there
[19:38] <zimon> rewati: yes
[19:38] <rewati> zimon i installed it and it was sucess
[19:39] <rewati> zimon but still there is no sound
[19:39] <zimon> rewati: so you've got sound now?
[19:39] <rewati> it gave waring that it is muted
[19:39] <zimon> rewati: ah. run alsamixer in a konsole and unmute all channels
[19:39] <rewati> so i started alsa mixer and i saw it was not muted it was full
[19:40] <rewati> zimon ok i did that but still its not workin
[19:40] <zimon> rewati: what did the two digits beneath the bars say? 00 or MM?
[19:41] <rewati> it says 00
[19:42] <zimon> rewati: hm .. that should be alright.
[19:43] <rewati> zimon ok
[19:43] <rewati> zimon how???
[19:44] <zimon> rewati: maybe i forgot something ... you could try recompile it with --with-card-options=all .... that makes the driver a bit large, but doesn't cause problems
[19:47] <zimon> rewati: or you didn't reload the module properly. do the last lines of dmesg show something with snd-hda-intel?
[19:48] <rewati> zimon i am recompiling it with option = all
[19:48] <rewati> it says successfully compiled
[19:48]  * lysli is away: Parti pour l'instant.
[19:49] <jpatrick> !away > lysli
[19:50] <zimon> rewati: erm .. you did run make install, right?
[19:50] <zimon> rewati: not just ./configure && make
[19:51] <rewati> zimon yes
[19:51] <rewati> make was also successful
[19:51] <rewati> and
[19:52] <storbeck> rewati: What sound card do you have?
[19:52] <rewati> make install was also good
[19:52] <ringlej> I remember a while back using some tool to convert an RPM to APT, but I can't remember the name of it...
[19:52] <tekteen> alien
[19:52] <zimon> rewati: so try the new module. that has to work :-)
[19:53] <ringlej> tekteen: that's it. thanks!
[19:53] <tekteen> np
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[19:53] <rewati> zimo which one
[19:53] <storbeck> rewati: What sound card do you have?
[19:53] <zimon> rewati: the one you built with ...=all
[19:54] <tekteen> !alien > ringlej
[19:54] <ccvp> what's this crap about "generic error" when trying to delete files that were originally mounted with a mounting tool like acetoneiso2? I somehow put the original mounted data into a void, and the mounted data is still floating on my desktop....cannot remove to trash, "Generic Error"
[19:57] <ringlej> tekteen: I was wanting to install the latest version of gquilt on my system. what sort of bad thing could happen?
[19:57] <tekteen> ringlej: rpm and apt are different
[19:58] <tekteen> any number of problems could happen
[19:58] <tekteen> ringlej: why not install it from source
[19:58] <hydrogen> that presents it's own set of problems...
[19:58] <ringlej> Ok. I'll remove the gquilt that I currently have and install from source instead.
[19:59] <ringlej> hmm. I could install to /usr/local/
[19:59] <tekteen> ringlej: if nothing is happening it should be fine
[20:00] <ringlej> ok
[20:01] <MartinsGustyWait> in http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/ - why is there no gutsy-commercial?
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[20:02] <rewati> zimo which one
[20:02] <zimon> rewati: the one you just built. with the ...=all option
[20:04]  * MartinCleaver reads https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/140807
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[20:07] <harmental> i think i found the solution for the kded overload problem..if someone has been experiencing the same issue he can contact me...
[20:10] <aaroncampbell> What's the proper way to install a .deb in Kubuntu?  I just want to make sure that I can remove this later if there is an issue
[20:10] <Arwen> aaroncampbell, with "gdebi" or "dpkg -i"
[20:10] <Arwen> at any rate, you can remove it with "dpkg -r"
[20:11] <aaroncampbell> Thanks, I don't even know what gdebi is, but I'll look at the options
[20:12] <Arwen> anyone here using compiz?
[20:12] <tekteen> yep
[20:12] <Arwen> there's got to be something less straining on the eys than rotate-cube
[20:12] <tekteen> Arwen: yep
[20:13] <tekteen> not using the cube
[20:13] <Arwen> what else do I have?
[20:13] <tekteen> expo
[20:13] <rickest> Arwen: expose plugin
[20:13] <Arwen> expo sucks
[20:13] <tekteen> Desktop plane
[20:14] <tekteen> desktop wall
[20:14] <Arwen> hmm, that looks nice actually
[20:14]  * Arwen now goes to turn off every single visual effect in compiz
[20:14]  * tekteen did that a while back
[20:15] <tekteen> It is great to show off to friends. not to use
[20:15] <Arwen> hmm, the issue I have with plane is I can't go from port 1 to port 4
[20:15] <tekteen> I do not use it
[20:15] <Arwen> oh, wall works
[20:15] <Arwen> yay
[20:16] <tekteen> it is not flashy. I only use the normal stuff and switch to the really flashy eye burning stuff
[20:16] <tekteen> to show off to friends
[20:16] <Arwen> actually, the configuration I'm going for has less effects than most people's kwin setups
[20:16]  * Arwen just wants the GPU rendering
[20:16] <tekteen> you need a good driver then
[20:18] <aaroncampbell> I use the scale plugin, and I set "Initiate Window Picker for All Windows" to Screen Edge TopLeft . . .  I use that for switching back and forth a lot, because it lets me switch to the program I'm looking for without worrying about what desktop it's on, or what other programs it's behind
[20:21] <philast> Hi
[20:22] <harmental> how can i check if CONFIG_HOTPLUG is enabled?
[20:22] <tekteen> hi
[20:22] <philast> I had a bit of a problem with a recent package update that's left me without crypto support when I boot.  Bit of a problem.  I can mount the partition under the Live CD but want to roll back the package updates so I can boot normally.
[20:23] <zimon> harmental: grep CONFIG_HOTPLUG /boot/config-`uname -r`
[20:23] <philast> It's to do with libvolume.  I posted a message here: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3091891.0 but I'm feeling impatient :-P
[20:23]  * beautifulsnow asks: is there an utility that allows me to mount/unmount volumes on my fstab? 
[20:24] <tekteen> beautifulsnow: mount?
[20:24] <harmental> zimon: thx
[20:24] <philast> I wonder if anyone can offer a solution.
[20:24] <tekteen> beautifulsnow: you mean command line or gui?
[20:24] <beautifulsnow> tekteen, GUI
[20:24] <tekteen> beautifulsnow: konqueror prob will
[20:24] <tekteen> beautifulsnow: go to media:/
[20:25] <beautifulsnow> tekteen, right now I have to unplug then unplug the usb drive, to trick ubuntu into mounting it for me ;) I dont feel like typing sudo mount blah blah all the time
[20:25] <tekteen> then right click to mount and unmount
[20:26] <tekteen> beautifulsnow: konqueror does it
[20:27]  * beautifulsnow blushes
[20:27] <zimon> beautifulsnow: are you sure? if the usb drive is plugged in during boot, it's mounted to /media/disk or something similar, but not displayed on your desktop
[20:28] <beautifulsnow> well its supposed to mount it at boot, it has before, i didnt change anything. but  everytime i log in now, i go to amarok (gotta have my tunes ;) ) and it doenst play anything (my collection is on usb drive)
[20:28] <beautifulsnow> then I realize the usb isnt mounted, and manually mount it
[20:29] <zimon> beautifulsnow: hm .. next time you reboot, look if there's something mounted to /media/.. maybe the mount point is just different so amarok doesn't find it
[20:30] <beautifulsnow> Oh, yes, it's supposed to be /media, and when I manually mount it, it goes to media
[20:36] <philast> I wonder if I'm asking in the right place.  Since this issue is nothing to do with the desktop, should I be asking the Ubuntu people?  Or could anyone point me in the right direction.  Am I just being an idiot?
[20:38] <lukas__> a
[20:39] <philast> was that for me?
[20:41] <rickest> philast: have to get lucky and find someone that knows about encrypted volumes. seems like the forums (as you've done) is your best bet
[20:41] <philast> Thanks for that.  Yes, it looks like it.
[20:41] <philast> So back to Windows for now :-(
[20:48] <martijn> the kde4 release is a little buggy!
[20:48] <Arwen> martijn, duh?
[20:48]  * jhutchins_wk mops coffee off his keyboard.
[20:48] <jhutchins_wk> martijn: Um, yeah.
[20:48] <jhutchins_wk> martijn: That's the point.
[20:49] <martijn> seems like kopete does not work and i cannot get the composite effect to work anymore
[20:50] <martijn> in the kde3 release with kde4-core installed it DOES work with composite effects
[20:50] <bsundsrud> is there a decently stable way to go from gutsy to hardy yet? will /gutsy/hardy/g do it or is there a better way?
[20:50] <martijn> and aptitude saved my ass again, i love it
[20:50] <Daisuke_Ido> your best bet is to ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[20:51] <Daisuke_Ido> that's their baby, a lot of the same people in both places, but a pretty good number on this side don't know much about kde4 yet
[20:54] <martijn> thanks Daisuke_Ido
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[20:55] <DHGE> bsundsrud: did it on a spare machine - worked even with an encrypted volume - NICE :-)
[20:57] <DHGE> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:59] <bsundsrud> nice, any interaction between kde3 and kde4?
[21:00] <cosimo_> ragazzi come faccio a connetteermi al server tin?
[21:00] <ere4si> !it
[21:00] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:01] <bsundsrud> DHGE: kde 3 or 4?
[21:02] <DHGE> bsundsrud: just the 3ish upgrade - compiling KDE4 on Debian Lenny as I type ...
[21:02] <DHGE> or: YES
[21:03] <bsundsrud> ok, wanted to make sure that my 3 wouldn't be messed with
[21:03] <DHGE> u get 3.5.9 ... nice IMO
[21:04] <bsundsrud> hmm, instead could i somehow get a backports version of wine?
[21:05] <bsundsrud> i was going to move to hardy before it goes gold but what prompted me now was a need for the latest wine. its 0.9.46 in universe gutsy, but i need 0.9.55 (in hardy)
[21:05] <DHGE> bsundsrud: just add the wine-deb repository to your sources.list
[21:06] <DHGE> BTW: wine is one deb ...
[21:06] <bsundsrud> that info at winehq.org or do you have the line?
[21:06] <DHGE> yes
[21:06] <bsundsrud> haha
[21:06] <bsundsrud> which?
[21:07] <DHGE> both... ;-)
[21:07] <DHGE> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt gutsy main
[21:07] <DHGE> you want the PGP-key also ...
[21:08] <bsundsrud> adept took it without complaint
[21:09] <DHGE> wait a little ...
[21:09] <bsundsrud> its installed
[21:09] <bsundsrud> --version reports 0.9.55
[21:09] <DHGE> YUP
[21:09] <bsundsrud> good deal, thanks
[21:10] <bsundsrud> i'll do a clean install of hardy later :D
[21:10] <DHGE> save /home /etc and some /var
[21:12] <blenheim> I've got a bit of a problem
[21:15] <blenheim> Trying to start 7.10, it goes to that screen where this block is moving from side to side and then it just throws me a screen where is blinking _ t-thing
[21:15] <blenheim> -t
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[21:17] <BluesKaj> blenheim:  did you recently install a graphics or monitor driver, or edit your xorg.conf file ?
[21:17] <blenheim> I can't even get it started from cd
[21:17] <blenheim> to install it
[21:17] <BluesKaj> ok
[21:17] <Daisuke_Ido> alternate cd might be a better fit
[21:18] <Daisuke_Ido> and speaking of, why can't they merge the alternate and live cd?  text menu on boot asking which you want to do
[21:18] <blenheim> you said that
[21:19] <blenheim> as the matter of fact I had same like problem with earlier version (7.04 or so). I did get it installed and it jams the machine while trying to start it
[21:19] <DHGE> blenheim: what video - any other Linux capable running on your machine?
[21:20] <blenheim> I'm having 6.06 now on my hard drive
[21:20] <blenheim> newer versions doesn't work at all
[21:21] <martijn81> blenheim: current development version gives me a busybox on one of my computers too, i already reported a bug for that
[21:21] <blenheim> good
[21:22] <blenheim> Looks like I'm still stuck with this older version for a while
[21:22] <blenheim> Or propably I should think of updating my hardware...
[21:23] <DHGE> or try some boot options
[21:23] <blenheim> what should i try?
[21:23] <DHGE> 8.04 is near - try an alpha CD
[21:23] <blenheim> hmm, maybe
[21:24] <sjck> how can I see which version of wine I have installed?
[21:24] <trappist> sjck: wine --version
[21:25] <sjck> thank you
[21:26] <DHGE> or apt-cache show "package name"
[21:27] <trappist> actually that'll show what's available since your last apt-get update, not what's installed
[21:27] <trappist> it'll usually be the same, though
[21:27] <DHGE> Installed-Size: 49800
[21:27] <trappist> dpkg -l wine would be better
[21:27] <genii> apt-cache policy <name> shows installed version
[21:28] <blenheim> Maybe I'll just try to download this alternate cd
[21:28] <DHGE> blenheim: if it is NOT a video problem it won't help you ...
[21:28] <blenheim> Thanks for the information and help guys
[21:29] <blenheim> I think it has to be downloaded again, md5 sum was differing a bit of that what is at server
[21:29] <sjck> how can I see which version of kubuntu I have installed?
[21:30] <rewati> hey i have problem with soud some one can help me
[21:30] <ere4si> lsb-release -a
[21:30] <ere4si> sjck,
[21:30] <trappist> !ask | rewati
[21:30] <ubotu> rewati: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:31] <sjck> command not found
[21:31] <rewati> hey
[21:31] <rickest> ere4si: lsb_release (no dash)
[21:31] <ere4si> !version
[21:31] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[21:31] <trappist> sjck: sudo apt-get install lsb-release
[21:31] <rewati> there is beed sound in my system but when i am playin smthing it says devise is busy
[21:31] <rewati> amorok say device is busy
[21:31] <DHGE> cat /etc/lsb-release
[21:31] <sjck> thank you
[21:33] <rewati> amarok says output unavailable device busy
[21:33] <trappist> !sound
[21:33] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:34] <Daisuke_Ido> is there a single sound system that provides reliable compatibility with existing systems?
[21:34] <Daisuke_Ido> key word reliable
[21:34] <DHGE> rewati: try to look at amarok's engines - xine works well for me
[21:34] <rewati> how to do that
[21:34] <trappist> Daisuke_Ido: define system for both uses, please
[21:35] <rewati> DHGE how to do that
[21:35] <Daisuke_Ido> atrs, alsa, oss
[21:35] <DHGE> try! it is in the menus ... F1
[21:35] <Daisuke_Ido> arts, that is
[21:35] <trappist> well arts is very different from alsa or oss
[21:35] <Daisuke_Ido> yes.
[21:35] <trappist> like, a different category of software
[21:36] <trappist> then there's esd
[21:36] <Daisuke_Ido> okay
[21:36] <blenheim> argh, torrentsoftware had left few bytes behind and thats why it doesnt work at all maybe...
[21:36] <rewati> DHGE how to do that
[21:36] <blenheim> Should every time check that md5 before burning :)
[21:36] <DHGE> .
[21:36] <sjck> can anyone tell me how to mount a .iso?
[21:36] <trappist> !iso
[21:36] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[21:36] <DHGE> !iso
[21:36] <trappist> bam.
[21:37] <Daisuke_Ido> essentially a unified sound system (which i think was in the works for hardy, perhaps intrepid)
[21:37] <sjck> is /example a mountpoint?
[21:37] <Daisuke_Ido> just don't remember what it was called...
[21:37] <Daisuke_Ido> sjck: if you create it then it can be
[21:37] <trappist> Daisuke_Ido: well that's why I asked you to define system.  alsa is a system, and arts is a system, but they work together.  they don't compete.
[21:37] <sjck> okay, thanks : )
[21:37] <Daisuke_Ido> trappist: ah ha
[21:38] <mrunagi> is there a program for kubuntu where i can fill in forms on a pdf?
[21:38] <trappist> alsa is is kind of a driver system, which is hardware-dependent.  arts is more of a software mixer for cards that don't have real DSPs, so you can play more than one sound at a time.
[21:39] <DHGE> iso:/path/xyz.iso in konqueror if you want to look at the contents
[21:39] <trappist> mrunagi: you mean like acrobat reader?
[21:39] <mrunagi> yea
[21:39] <rewati> DHGE how to do that
[21:39] <trappist> mrunagi: try, acrobat reader.
[21:39] <trappist> DHGE: didn't know that one, nice.
[21:39] <Daisuke_Ido> kioslaves get cooler by the day
[21:39] <DHGE> just tried it  ;-)
[21:39] <mrunagi> dhge?
[21:40] <rewati> trappist my sount output device is busy
[21:40] <rewati> i am not able to get sound
[21:40] <trappist> rewati: right.  I can't help you with that one, but did you try the steps the bot suggested?
[21:40] <Daisuke_Ido> that's a good one, audiocd:/ is another favorite (once i figure out how to tweak lame's behaviour)
[21:40] <trappist> !sound | rewati
[21:40] <ubotu> rewati: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:40] <mrunagi> !dhge
[21:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhge - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:41] <Daisuke_Ido> mrunagi: DHGE is someone in the channel that mentioned something.
[21:41] <TimS> What the command to reconfigure xserver?
[21:41] <trappist> TimS: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg iirc
[21:41] <martijn81> TimS: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:41] <trappist> bam.
[21:41] <martijn81> oops
[21:41] <TimS> Cheers :P
[21:42] <DHGE> vim /etc/X11/xorg.cong    d&r
[21:42] <TimS> Is there a factoid for that, just out of interest?
[21:42] <trappist> !x
[21:42] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:42] <trappist> maybe not
[21:42] <Daisuke_Ido> DHGE: really not the best idea to point new users at vim.
[21:42] <Daisuke_Ido> just sayin'
[21:42] <DHGE> d&r ...
[21:42] <Daisuke_Ido> d&r?
[21:42] <trappist> new users are better off with cat and ctrl-d
[21:42] <DHGE> ducking and running
[21:43] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[21:43] <jinzougen> Would anyone know why applications aren't rendering progress bars?
[21:43] <trappist> I've been on irc a lot of years, first time I've seen d&r
[21:43] <jinzougen> s/aren't/wouldn't/
[21:44] <trappist> wouldn't rendering?
[21:44] <jinzougen> wouldn't render*
[21:44] <trappist> jinzougen: try changing your theme - maybe yours has a bad implementation for progress indicators
[21:44] <jinzougen> It's weird. Firefox and thunderbird show the progress bar and their percentages, but no actual bar.
[21:44] <jinzougen> k.
[21:45] <trappist> oh, maybe your progress bar foreground and background colors are the same, if I'm understanding your description properly
[21:45] <blenheim> jinzougen: same problem in 6.10 kubuntu with newest stable firefox
[21:45] <rewati> i am not able to get sound
[21:45] <trappist> rewati: dude.  the bot had some suggestions.  did you try them.
[21:46] <rewati> yep i did that
[21:46] <trappist> did what, exactly, and what were the results.
[21:46] <jinzougen> By theme do you mean the widget style?
[21:46] <trappist> jinzougen: right, sorry
[21:46] <trappist> theme is kinda ambiguous
[21:46] <jinzougen> yeah, same problem for at least two seperate styles.
[21:46] <jinzougen> weird.
[21:46] <trappist> jinzougen: maybe it's a color issue... matching foreground and background
[21:47] <jinzougen> maybe...
[21:47] <jinzougen> Is the "preview" in the widget style selector respective of colors?
[21:47] <rewati> trappist i did install alsa for my card
[21:47] <trappist> dunno
[21:47] <rewati> now i have beep sound but no playback
[21:48] <rewati> amarok says device busy
[21:48] <jinzougen> Well, I guess it's something else. At least it's no a debilitating thing.
[21:50] <DHGE> rewati: kmix  -  look at the LED-like symbols maybe yours are OFF
[21:51] <Daisuke_Ido> rewati: restart artsd
[21:51] <rewati> DHGE at pannel where there is smallspeaker icon it says mixer not present
[21:51] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, i'd say there's a pretty big issue there...
[21:53] <rewati> i tried restarting artsd it says /dev/dsp not present
[21:53] <rewati> DHGE i tried restarting artsd it says /dev/dsp not present
[21:55] <maniac_> Hello all.
[21:55] <DHGE> rewati: lsmod | grep snd    gives plenty for my system   maybe you have no sound modules loaded/active
[21:55] <maniac_> was anyone able to set-up bluetooth access point?
[21:57] <DHGE> maniac_: yes
[21:58] <maniac_> DHGE: how? I have spent 2 days. and no luck yet
[21:58] <maniac_> I have checked at least 3 manuals.
[21:59] <maniac_> I want to share my internet connection from linux to Win laptop via bluetooth.
[22:00] <maniac_> so 1st step - is to configure NAP on linux. And I was able to start pand/bluetoothd-network-service.
[22:00] <DHGE> maniac_: pushed the wireless-button on my notebook, start bluetooth on my phone, started the daemon, synched ...
[22:00] <maniac_> synched?
[22:00] <DHGE> phone numbers etc ...
[22:01] <maniac_> objex/filetransfer works. I need Network Access Point
[22:01] <maniac_> LAN over bluetooth
[22:01] <DHGE> http://mschlatter.blogspot.com/2007/12/nokia-e90-als-modem-fr-ubuntu-laptop.html
[22:01] <DHGE> german ...
[22:02] <maniac_> in your scenario: internet->phone->bluetooth->ppp from linux
[22:02] <DHGE> there are different profiles (numbers) u need to guess/get the right profile on the linux side
[22:02] <maniac_> i need : internet -> linux -> bluetooth -> winlaptop
[22:04] <rewati> DHGE wats the url of pastebin
[22:04] <rewati> i am sendin u the output
[22:04] <ere4si> !paste
[22:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:04] <DHGE> http://de.pastebin.ca/
[22:05] <teqsun> howdy all, Where is a good place to start looking for nice LARGE backgrounds (widescreen)
[22:05] <maniac_> teqsun: shiftedreality.com
[22:06] <waynrdude> is there anywhere i can get a pdf of the shipit labels for kubuntu?
[22:06] <teqsun> thank you maniac
[22:06] <rickest> teqsun: deviantart
[22:06] <ere4si> teqsun, deviantart is good too
[22:06] <ere4si> he
[22:06] <rewati> DHGE http://de.pastebin.ca/923849
[22:07] <teqsun> uhh
[22:09] <DHGE> rewati: to me it looks as if you have NO driver for your sound hardware - but then there should bo no entries - sorry do not know
[22:09] <DHGE> did sound work before?
[22:09] <rewati> noo
[22:10] <rewati> but there was no beep also and today i got beep sound
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[22:11] <waynrdude> !wireless
[22:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:12] <waynrdude> !dualboot
[22:12] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[22:12] <Plantain_> Hey, for some reason pidgin doesn't make any alert noises when someone sends me a message, despite me telling it to in settings
[22:12] <Plantain_> No other programs have trouble with sound
[22:16] <beautifulsnow> Hi, how dificult is it to install themes/styles on KDE? I remmeber having to compile themes a while back, so now Im using gnome, but I like KDE better...
[22:18] <yao_ziyuan> there is sexiness of freedom in linux's sans serif font...
[22:18] <blenheim> Naah, new burnt cd didn't help to get over that black screen. MD5 sum matches and everything should be okay
[22:20] <yukino> hola
[22:30] <jhutchins_wk> blenheim: Try: vga=normal noapi noapic
[22:32] <Strangelet> Konqueror is having problems with flash, ex: YouTube's videos do not load and the buttons come out strangely, other flash apps do not load either, and some simply cause severe lag. Is anyone else experiencing this problem?
[22:32] <synaptik> beautifulsnow: it depends on the theme, but i have yet to use a theme that needs compiling. maybe changing a config file here or there. there is also a package in the repos that adds some popular themes to the theme manager.
[22:33] <synaptik> many themes can be found at http://www.kde-look.org
[22:34] <mrunagi> anyone know where i can get kubuntu cd labels?
[22:35] <synaptik> beautifulsnow: just click on "Theme-Manager" on the left side there for the themes that work with the Theme Manager. also you might find this link helpful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[22:36] <beautifulsnow> Alright that sounds goo synaptik, thank you :) As long as I can use a theme manager im happy :)
[22:36] <mrunagi> !artwork
[22:36] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[22:36] <mrunagi> not that kind of artwork dang it
[22:37] <DHGE> http://www.google.com/search?hl=de&q=kubuntu+cd+labels  found: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=520068
[22:37] <synaptik> mrunagi: there is a thread here about labels: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24293
[22:37] <mrunagi> thanks =)
[22:37] <jhutchins_wk> mrunagi: Dunno.  You can get a template for ooffice.
[22:37] <Corty> Is there any way i can force the system tray to always show up two lines using kde?
[22:38] <jhutchins_wk> mrunagi: google kubuntu cd label image
[22:40] <synaptik> mrunage: here's something else: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing
[22:46] <beautifulsnow> Does anyone know what media player this is? *blush, it looks really clean and simple* http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/75420-1.png
[22:47] <Corty> amarok maybe
[22:47] <beautifulsnow> Nah
[22:47] <Corty> looks good :)
[22:47] <Corty> beautifulsnow, why not? ;)
[22:48] <oloughlin75> banshee?
[22:48] <beautifulsnow> Amarok is all "hey look at this over here and look at this over there, are you confused yet?"  ... while that screenshot looks very user friendly :D
[22:48] <oloughlin75> its not amarok
[22:48] <beautifulsnow> banshee eh? Ill google it, thank you!
[22:48] <oloughlin75> beautifulsnow: Just a gues... I only use amarok
[22:48] <zimon> it's banshee
[22:48] <beautifulsnow> lol I went on google and typed: banshe meedia player
[22:48] <nosrednaekim> doesn't put its name in the title <_<
[22:49] <oloughlin75> yep its banshee
[22:49] <oloughlin75> www.banshee-project.org
[22:49] <beautifulsnow> yeah it is! woohoo!
[22:49] <Corty> lol
[22:49] <nosrednaekim> that is Exaile.... a amarok rip-off in GTK
[22:49] <beautifulsnow> bye bye amarok of doom!
[22:49] <Corty> oh noez
[22:49] <nosrednaekim> oh.. maybe not :)
[22:49] <nosrednaekim> sure looks like it..
[22:49] <Corty> beautifulsnow, but the look-at-this-and-that-thing is true..
[22:50] <oloughlin75> Corty: Features come with a price
[22:50] <beautifulsnow> oloughlin75:  tell that to Apple and watch them snicker at you
[22:50] <oloughlin75> Corty: You can hide some of the stuff though
[22:50] <Corty> yeah, right
[22:50] <beautifulsnow> ;)
[22:50] <zimon> beautifulsnow: apart from it's look i think amarok is the best media player for linux ... (ok, i don't know banshee too well) ... but all the simple players are a bit short on features
[22:50] <oloughlin75> beautifulsnow: and how much can you configure apple products?
[22:51] <nosrednaekim> I still think thats exaile
[22:51] <beautifulsnow> ol
[22:51] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: It is banshee!
[22:51] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: http://banshee-project.org/Image:Banshee-0.11.0-release-library.png
[22:51] <nosrednaekim> ok ok... I've never really used each very much
[22:51] <oloughlin75> same buttons and layout
[22:51] <beautifulsnow> oloughlin75: dont have to, theyre pretty good already ;D Anyway, I loooove my x/Ubuntu very much, I would never give up ubuntu for any other OS :)
[22:51] <rickest> not a match: http://www.exaile.org/screens
[22:52] <oloughlin75> beautifulsnow: Same, I always have so many things open in linux because it doesnt bog down :/
[22:53] <synaptik> clear
[22:53] <synaptik> haha, oops :p
[22:54] <beautifulsnow> yeah, virtual desktop with 4 desktops f.t.w! :)
[22:55]  * nosrednaekim concedes to oloughlin75.... banshee it is
[22:55] <oloughlin75> :)
[22:56] <beautifulsnow> Odd, that screenshot was on kdelook not gnomelook ;p
[22:56] <oloughlin75> banshee isnt made for one or the other is it?
[22:56] <beautifulsnow> gtk based aparently, so its gnome, right?
[22:56] <beautifulsnow> yup it ssays  "music management for gnome'
[22:57] <oloughlin75> ha
[22:57] <rickest> beautifulsnow: you can run gnome apps in kde and vice versa, though, in case you didn't know
[22:57] <oloughlin75> KDE apps are better, but gnome looks better :/
[22:57] <zimon> but it'll load all the gnome-libs, just to play music. :-/
[22:57] <beautifulsnow> Yeah I do, I heard/read KDE is crash crash friendly, though I like KDE better, I run Ubuntu with Gnome, but yeah, most of the apps I use are kde based :(
[22:58] <Daisuke_Ido> zimon: it will only *use* the gnome libs when they're needed
[22:58] <rickest> not all just the base stuff (still too much, I agree, but it's not a major issue)
[22:58] <oloughlin75> beautifulsnow: konversation and amarok? I do the same thing ^_^
[22:58] <Daisuke_Ido> if you have the disk space, it's pointless to whine about it, it's not going to kill you :)
[22:58] <beautifulsnow> I tried kubuntu and it didnt come with the automatic updates or add/remove programs menu, or wireless app... gnome seems to go more smooth to me :D but i love kde apps, I often wonder if i should install kde
[22:59] <zimon> Daisuke_Ido: yes, but they are needed cause it's linked to libgnome ..
[22:59] <beautifulsnow> i hate gnome file manager /  nautilus >_>;
[22:59] <Daisuke_Ido> again, if the disk space is there, why whine or worry about it?  it's not going to hurt anything
[22:59] <Daisuke_Ido> are you worried that the gnome libs are going to start infecting kde's libs with their gtkness?\
[22:59] <oloughlin75> beautifulsnow: it has add/remove programs...
[22:59] <beautifulsnow> i know Daisuke_Ido but i dont want to risk breaking anything because right now I love this distro 11110000%
[22:59] <beautifulsnow> oloughlin75:
[22:59] <beautifulsnow> oloughlin75:  synaptic?
[23:00] <rickest> beautifulsnow: you can have both. apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:00] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[23:00] <zimon> Daisuke_Ido: i'm talking about memory usage ... loading tens of mbs of libs just for playing music is a waste of memory
[23:00] <beautifulsnow> i know rickest but i dont want it there if i dont need it ;p anyway, yes i am considering doing it, i already did install xubuntu desktop
[23:00] <Daisuke_Ido> zimon: *shrugs*
[23:00] <oloughlin75> beautifulsnow: It has the same thing as gnome I think, the add/remove... it uses aptitude for its package manager though
[23:00] <Daisuke_Ido> i do it to load amarok in gnome
[23:00] <rickest> beautifulsnow: I understand wanting to preserve a system that's working as is, too :)
[23:00] <Daisuke_Ido> in fact, that actually loads MORE libraries
[23:01] <Daisuke_Ido> and there's no performance hit
[23:01] <synaptik> beautifulsnow: add/remove programs menu (simplified adept), automatic updates, wireless connection manager, are all included in Kubuntu
[23:01] <Daisuke_Ido> tens of MBs is a pointless thing to worry about in a world where most (not all, but most) desktop machines, and even laptops, have 512mb or better
[23:02] <mrunagi> sigh it sucks theres no adobe acrobat apps for linux =/
[23:02] <Daisuke_Ido> uhh
[23:02] <oloughlin75> all low end machines now have 1 gig standard
[23:02] <rickest> and with 3GB ram it's kind of hard to quantify the concept of "wasting" memory
[23:02] <synaptik> you can also install synaptik in kubuntu if you don't like adept
[23:02] <beautifulsnow> synaptik: thats good to know, for some reason, maybe its because i installed it from kubuntu cd, it didnt recognize my wireless, my mouse and keyboard media buttons, and the dell Fn key.... ubuntu did all of them (same verison, same laptop, so i dont get it O_o)
[23:02] <Daisuke_Ido> oloughlin75: thank you, that makes my point a little stronger
[23:03] <Daisuke_Ido> synaptik: NO! can't have any gtk programs cluttering up a pure kde environment, nosiree!
[23:03] <beautifulsnow> LOL!!! :D
[23:03] <Daisuke_Ido> see how dumb that sounds?
[23:03] <synaptik> it could be a version thing. hard to tell what exactly is on the cd
[23:03] <oloughlin75> Daisuke_Ido: Just bought a $500 laptop thats got 2GB ram! :)
[23:03] <beautifulsnow> not bad :)
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75» dang... where?
[23:03] <oloughlin75> prices drop too fast
[23:03] <Daisuke_Ido> bottom line: if there's an app, be it gtk or qt, and you like it?  use it.
[23:03] <beautifulsnow> (jerk! ;p where'd you get it ;___; )
[23:03] <synaptik> Daisuke: heehee. but synaptic looks so much cleaner. adept is messy :p
[23:03] <Daisuke_Ido> it's not going to hurt anything
[23:04] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: newegg... they sold out less than an hour after I bought :)
[23:04] <Daisuke_Ido> synaptik: i was jsut making a point, i'm all for synaptic :)
[23:04] <beautifulsnow> bleh
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75» lol...
[23:05] <synaptik> <--- as am i, Daisuke. :p
[23:05] <Daisuke_Ido> i could tell :)
[23:05] <synaptik> heehee
[23:06] <synaptik> the one thing i dislike about KDE is all the kapplicationname business
[23:06] <synaptik> it klutters up the applikation menu
[23:06] <beautifulsnow> See, I installed xubuntu-desktop yesterday and it came along with a ton of crap i dont need, like games, etc. I don't want to install all that with kubuntu-desktop
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[23:07] <synaptik> i think there's a kde-core package or something that doesn't bring all the preinstalled apps with it
[23:07] <Daisuke_Ido> i kan't see what all the fuss is about, kontrary to popular belief, a kapital K makes applikations easier to spot...
[23:07] <oloughlin75> !find kde-core
[23:07] <ubotu> Found: kde-core
[23:07] <cinex> kdebase
[23:07] <beautifulsnow> lol :P
[23:07] <ere4si> synaptik, you can install xfce instead of all of xubuntu-desktop
[23:07] <Daisuke_Ido> iow, agreed :)
[23:07] <beautifulsnow> sudo apt-get install kde-core?
[23:07] <oloughlin75> yep
[23:08] <synaptik> here is a little tutorial on kde-core install: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core#why
[23:09] <beautifulsnow> Thanks ;D
[23:10] <synaptik> Daisuke: lol. the first thing i do on a new install is rename everything in the K menu :p
[23:10] <oloughlin75> whats a good small fast browser? Firefox seems to run terrible for me
[23:10] <uno> hey
[23:10] <synaptik> epiphany
[23:11] <oloughlin75> synaptik: does it have media and flash plugins?
[23:11] <uno> srry wrong channel
[23:11] <synaptik> yes, it is built on the gecko engine, just like firefox
[23:11] <beautifulsnow> +1 for epiphany
[23:11] <oloughlin75> I will grab it, thanks synaptik
[23:12] <synaptik> np
[23:13] <rickest> or galeon, same thing. mozilla engine but not XUL, etc.
[23:14] <oloughlin75> looks good
[23:15] <beautifulsnow> I was doing a google search for "xubuntu-core" (so I know how to strip down to core) and I found this: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/02/29/   creepy! O.O
[23:16] <nosrednaekim> hehe
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[23:17]  * beautifulsnow faints as she realizes she can use previous/next buttons of her mouse with bansee, unlike amarok <3
[23:24] <mrunagi> how do you cd to a network folder?
[23:24] <Arwen> anyone using amarok? does it have a hotkey for "mute"?
[23:24] <fignew> Arwen: you can assign mute to any hotkey
[23:25] <LjL-Temp> Arwen, by default, probably yes, but unsure, but just reach the shortcuts settings
[23:25] <Arwen> where?
[23:25] <LjL-Temp> Arwen, in the same place as all other kde applications ;) also you can set mute globally in kmix
[23:26] <Arwen> ah, oh well, there's no control for "mute"
[23:26] <Arwen> bah...
[23:27] <LjL-Temp> Arwen, i'm not on kde right now, but tools / configure shortcuts should be it, otherwise go to the system settings and configure global hotkeys
[23:29] <Dragnslcr> Arwen- Win-M by default
[23:29] <mrunagi> how do you cd to a network palce int he terminal
[23:29] <Arwen> Dragnslcr, yay, thanks
[23:29] <rickest> mrunagi: "network place"?
[23:30] <mneptok> mrunagi: you don't unless it's mounted in the filesystem
[23:31] <mneptok> cd = "change directory"
[23:31] <mneptok> cd != "connect directly" ;)
[23:31] <Boohbah> mrunagi: samba
[23:31] <Dragnslcr> Arwen- it's in Configure Global Shortcuts, in case you want to change it
[23:31] <rickest> mrunagi: obviously, we need you to elaborate on what you mean...
[23:32] <synaptik> miranai: i think you need to use smbclient (try "man smbclient")
[23:32] <mrunagi> so how do i mount an smb
[23:33] <synaptik> i think it would be something like smbmount //192.158.0.1/share /mnt/point
[23:33] <mrunagi> smbmount...ill try that
[23:33] <synaptik> oops, that should be a 6 of course, not 5
[23:33] <mrunagi> command not found
[23:33] <tekteen> mount smb:/Server/share /mount/point
[23:33] <tekteen> with sudo :-)
[23:34] <mrunagi> says i need to declare an fs
[23:34] <tekteen> I think
[23:34] <synaptik> what does "smbclient -L" say
[23:34] <rickest> -t cifs
[23:34] <mrunagi> synaptik: lists a bunch of flags for smbclient
[23:35] <tekteen> mrunagi: install package smbfs
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[23:36] <BluesKaj> mrunagi:  are you trying to mount a windows partition , if so type ' smb:/ ' in the konq addressbar
[23:36] <tekteen> mrunagi: then sudo mount -t smbfs //SERVER/Share /mount/point
[23:36] <Zabulus> need some help with kubuntu updates
[23:36] <tekteen> Zabulus: what help?
[23:37] <X314> hey.. I have a rather forfilling question. what is wish?
[23:37] <mrunagi> k brb
[23:37] <rickest> mrunagi: or '-t cifs' preferrably
[23:37] <Zabulus> every time i try to get the updates it freezes, then corrupts some file and i have to reinstall again
[23:37] <Zabulus> ive reinstalled kubuntu about 3 times now
[23:38] <synaptik> !wish
[23:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wish - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:38] <julian_> Wow
[23:38] <julian_> Many Kubuntu users :D
[23:38] <synaptik> X314: try google. i think Wish is a universal device driver
[23:39] <mrunagi> now it wants a user name and password
[23:39] <mrunagi> there isnt one
[23:39] <tekteen> rickest: why is cifs preferred
[23:39] <tekteen> mrunagi: put blank
[23:39] <mrunagi> i did
[23:39] <mrunagi> still says the same thing
[23:39] <X314> synaptik: okay.. becuase it is using over 50% of my "power"
[23:39] <tekteen> ok
[23:40] <Dragnslcr> !info wish
[23:40] <ubotu> Package wish does not exist in gutsy
[23:40] <tekteen> Wish is a simple program consisting of the Tcl command language, the Tk toolkit, and a main program that reads commands from standard input or from a file.
[23:40] <tekteen> look at !google
[23:40] <mrunagi> so what else can i do
[23:40] <tekteen> that was just the caption when I searched "wish linux"
[23:41] <tekteen> X314: another program is using it
[23:41] <X314> tekteen: so basically that is normal?
[23:41] <tekteen> I do not know
[23:42] <synaptik> mrunage: i can't help you anymore but here is info on samba that might be helpful: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Samba_Server
[23:42] <X314> right..
[23:42] <rickest> tekteen: no 2GB memory limit, it's a kernel module, more efficient, etc. I'd have to google for more
[23:42] <tekteen> ok
[23:42] <tekteen> rickest: you learn new things every day :-)
[23:43] <tekteen> this is why I hang out here
[23:43] <synaptik> mrunagi: sorry i can't spell your name right today :p if you don't get it figured out, also try kubuntuforums.net or come back to the channel ... maybe someone will pop in here who knows more
[23:43] <rickest> tekteen: someone told me that about a month ago and searches made them sound right :)  http://www.google.com/search?q=cifs+preferred+smbfs
[23:43] <mrunagi> is it because im on the livecd?
[23:43] <X314> hum. I am thinking to myself this might just be one of those days where one restarts the computer..
[23:44] <rickest> tekteen: plus, I personally ran into the 2GB bug when moving huge stuff around. that took a while to find
[23:44] <tekteen> rickest: ok
[23:44] <Zabulus> need help, install kubuntu, try to use adept to update, the update freezes and makes it so i have to try and install anew
[23:45] <tekteen> Zabulus: try to update in the konsole and pastebin the output
[23:45] <Zabulus> ill have to reinstall again then, running off of live cd after the update made it so it wont boot again
[23:46] <tekteen> Zabulus: that does not sound good
[23:46] <tekteen> Zabulus: but you get more debug info from the commandline
[23:46] <Zabulus> youre telling me, im getting tired of reinstalling linux
[23:47] <tekteen> Zabulus: that must suck
[23:47] <tekteen> Zabulus: but this is not enough info to know anything
[23:47] <andrey_> hello I am from Ukraine. I bad speak english, sorry
[23:48] <X314> anyone know a way you can check how long the computer has been on?
[23:48] <shinda> anyone know of any m2ts tools for linux?
[23:48] <andrey_> how seting internet in kubuntu 7.10 in konqueror
[23:48] <tekteen> X314: uptime
[23:48] <andrey_> in firefox good an konqueror bad
[23:49] <tekteen> andrey_: in my opinion firefox is better. but konqueror is not bad
[23:49] <waynetta> andrey_: Dont understand what you want
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[23:49] <cinex> andrey_: get opera ...
[23:50] <X314> tekteen: cheers.
[23:50]  * tekteen thinks cinex is evil and wrong
[23:50] <tekteen> lol
[23:50] <andrey_> how setting ipv6 in kde in kubuntu 7.10
[23:50] <andrey_> please help me
[23:50] <tekteen> andrey_: already setup
[23:50] <tekteen> andrey_: it "just works"
[23:52] <andrey_> i do not open web site in konqueror anf firefox open site. Why?
[23:52] <tekteen> andrey_: I do not know why
[23:52] <andrey_> firefox good open site
[23:53] <tekteen> andrey_: firefox has a wider amount of sites that work
[23:53] <synaptik> andrey_: sorry, this may be simple, but have you typed in address http://kubuntu.org for example in konqueror?
[23:53] <andrey_> konversation good work too
[23:54] <crackhead_25> hi can anyone HELP ME GET SOUND TO WORK AGAIN?
[23:54] <andrey_> При завантаженні http://kubuntu.org/ сталася помилка:
[23:54] <andrey_> bad bad
[23:54] <tekteen> !uk
[23:54] <ubotu> Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk
[23:54] <andrey_> error
[23:55] <beautifulsnow> :O!!!
[23:55] <tekteen> oops
[23:55] <synaptik> andrey_: Press Alt-F2, then type kdesudo konqueror - can you connect to internet now in konqueror?
[23:56] <andrey_> error too
[23:57] <Ors> Hi there, I am new to kubuntu, just trying to install it.  It goes fine until 76% and then it stops installing any further.  Any suggestion what I should do?
[23:57] <synaptik> andrey: okay, one more thing to try.  Go to Tools > HTML Settings and disable cache. then try connecting with konqueror.
[23:57] <andrey_> ok
[23:58] <synaptik> andrey_: did you understand me okay? i can make you a picture if you need it.
[23:58] <ere4si> Ors, are you sure it isn't connecting to the net for language packs (or trying to)?
[23:59] <Ors> I thought that might have been a problem and I disconnected it
[23:59] <andrey_> good :)  thanks
[23:59] <nosrednaekim> Ors» not good...
[23:59] <shaffy> does anyone know of a better/another compression program other than Ark?
[23:59] <nosrednaekim> Ors» you have to disable it PREVIOUS to the install