2008/02/29/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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[00:14] <nixternal> so do you Jucato :)
[00:14] <Jucato> not anymore though :)
[00:16] <bluszcz> hello, any here?
[00:28] <nixternal> Riddell: I have just tested the 'Print Head Cleaner' and it is making the printer in class go crazy :)
[00:28] <nixternal> so the button worked!!!
[00:29] <nixternal> Note to self:  "You cannot clean print heads on a LASERJET printer" :)
[00:31] <nixternal> Riddell: simply copy the maintenance_command(self, command) stuff from the gtk version, and then add the following code for the button:
[00:31] <nixternal> def on_btnCleanHeads_clicked(self):
[00:31] <nixternal>     self.maintenance_command ("Clean all")
[00:31] <nixternal> that is all you need, and comment out the .hide() on self.btnCleanHeads.show()
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[02:39] <ScottK> If it's bugfix only, go for it.
[02:39] <ScottK> Just file a bug to document what you're doing
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[03:02] <yuriy> nixternal: copy stuff from the gtk version? they're not using a common backend? :O
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[03:39] <nixternal> yuriy: there is a common, but that isn't in it
[03:39] <nixternal> that whole thing is a mess, the worst thing I have ever looked at
[03:43] <crimsun_> nah, there's far worse.
[03:44] <crimsun_> or should I say "there are far worse"
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[04:57] <nixternal> ryanakca: gahahahahahahha, you need to see this email I just got with your email addy in the To: field...it is great
[05:07] <Czessi> hi nixternal, i've printed some kubuntu posters. the documents are only available in the german A0 (841mm x 1189mm) format. are you interested for an pdf in an us format?
[05:25] <nixternal> sure
[05:32] <Czessi> I think ANSI E is the right format?
[05:36] <nixternal> oh man, I really don't know
[05:36] <nixternal> do you have the source of the posters?
[05:38] <Czessi> the source is the svg from the kubuntu marketing wiki page
[05:38] <nixternal> oh
[05:38] <Czessi> wikipedia says, ANSI E is the right format ;)
[05:39]  * Hobbsee wonders when kde4 will become usable.
[05:39] <nixternal> well I will just grab that then, unless you have it all funkdafied and what not :)
[05:39] <nixternal> KDE 4 has been usable for me now for a couple of months
[05:39] <nixternal> I will say it isn't the greatest on an amd64 system
[05:39] <nareshov> hmm
[05:39] <nixternal> it is always locking up and crashing, but I can't blame that on KDE 4 just yet
[05:39] <nixternal> I installed from the new kde 4 cd
[05:40] <nareshov> I had hardy kde4, didn't lock up or crash
[05:40] <Czessi> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuMarketing/Material
[05:40] <nareshov> (amd64)
[05:40] <nareshov> except that it's just unusable without proxy support
[05:40] <Hobbsee> nixternal: does the gtk qt engine work yet?
[05:40] <nixternal> not that I have seen thus far
[05:40] <nixternal> so Gtk apps look a little ugly, so does gnome, but that is still usable :p
[05:41] <nareshov> you can always enable "apply kde4 colours to non-kde apps" in system settings :P
[05:42] <Hobbsee> that's not enough :)
[05:42] <nareshov> ya :p
[05:42] <nixternal> only gtk app I use is Gimp, so it doesn't bother me
[05:42] <nareshov> you don't use firefox?!
[05:42] <nixternal> I hate firefox
[05:42] <nareshov> hmm
[05:43] <nixternal> it is a bloated turd just like internet explorer
[05:50] <robotgeek> OMG, nixternal blasphemes.
[05:51] <robotgeek> i guess it is okay in #kubuntu-devel , lol
[05:52] <nixternal> hehe
[05:57] <Hobbsee> !visternal
[05:57] <ubotu> Oh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!  He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too!
[06:12] <serega> Hey!
[06:24] <Hobbsee> hey!
[07:07] <nixternal> Hobbsee: do I need to file an FFe for a sync from Debian that just incorporates a couple of fixes for some bugs?
[07:09] <Hobbsee> nixternal: any features?
[07:09] <nixternal> no
[07:09] <nixternal> it is Gwenview, in main
[07:10] <nixternal> hrmm
[07:10] <nixternal> there are the 2 patches I want, and then the only changes made int he Debian package is bump to 3.7.3 and and compat to 6, which may be an issue
[07:13] <neversfelde> w/2006m3610
[07:13] <nixternal> really? :)
[07:14] <neversfelde> sorry, wrong input field. Early in the morning :)
[07:14] <nixternal> hehe
[07:14] <nixternal> now we all know your password for your bank account
[07:15] <neversfelde> not so bad ;)
[07:15] <neversfelde> you can be admin in forum kubuntu-de.org
[07:16] <nixternal> Hobbsee: I think I will just go ahread and create a debdiff for Riddell with those 2 patches from Debian...we don't need compat 6 in case we want to backport it to >= Dapper
[07:16] <neversfelde> I think I should change the password now^^
[07:16] <nixternal> hehe
[07:16] <nixternal> now that you told us what it was for
[07:17] <Hobbsee> nixternal: right
[07:17] <Hobbsee> nixternal: then you can just upload
[07:18] <nixternal> well I can't, but you can :)
[07:18] <nixternal> muhehe
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[07:55] <nixternal> Hobbsee: do you want to do this debdiff for gwenview really quick?
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[08:34] <nixternal> Riddell: http://www.nixternal.com/~rj/  <- gwenview and polyester debdiffs to fix some bugs - gwenview fixes 2 bugs and polyester fixes 1 bug
[08:34]  * nixternal beds
[08:34] <nixternal> g'nite
[08:34] <Jucato> bye nixternal
[08:34] <Jucato>  :)
[08:44] <hunger> Why can't I download the kde4.0.1 stuff from the archive?
[08:56] <hunger> Ah, now the debs finally showed up:-)
[09:28] <hunger> KDE4 will not start up: Splash screen appears, last icon flashes there. It vanishes after a while and nothing more happens. Any idea how to debug this?
[09:29] <nareshov> hunger: it takes you back to the login screen?
[09:29] <hunger> nareshov: nope.
[09:29] <nareshov> try sudo mv /etc/kde4rc /etc/kde4rc_do_not_use
[09:29] <hunger> nareshov: I just sit there with an empty screen that will only respond to ALT-CTRL-Backspace.
[09:32] <hunger> nareshov: That helped! Thanks!
[09:33] <nareshov> np
[09:34] <hunger> Any idea what was in the file? I rm-ed it;-)
[09:35] <nareshov> heh
[09:35] <nareshov> it was supposed to go anyway
[09:35] <hunger> nareshov: Well, if I cared I could just check it out again;-)
[09:36] <hunger> removing that file improves my kde 4.1 build, unfortunately it does not fix it.
[09:38] <nareshov> hunger: any idea if anyone is working on the proxy-support bug at all?
[09:38] <hunger> nareshov: Which proxy support bug?
[09:39] <nareshov> hunger: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155707
[09:39] <ubotu> KDE bug 155707 in general "proxy settings are not followed" [Major,New]
[09:40] <nareshov> Oh, it's assigned to someone now
[09:42] <hunger> nareshov: No idea, sorry.
[09:42] <hunger> but it is good to see it assigned;-)
[09:42] <nareshov> ya
[09:43]  * hunger sighs. Soprano is borked in SVN since yesterday evening already.
[09:57]  * hunger grumbles. KDE 3 is no fun anymore... konqui got so damn crashy since the last update:-(
[10:02] <_StefanS_> hunger: desktop icons in kde4 isn't exactly amazing either.. I cant figure out why they're made like applets
[10:02] <nareshov> add the taskbar to that
[10:02] <jussi01> hmmm, is it possible to not have the temp files ending in ~ left in the folder after use? ie. the ones created when you edit a picture or document?
[10:02] <_StefanS_> nareshov: agreed.
[10:02] <nareshov> + KDE3 is like < 500MB ram on my laptop, KDE4 is about 800MB, plasma is heavy :\
[10:02] <hunger> The taskbar sucks, I agree.
[10:04] <hunger> I do understand the icons as applets approach from an engineering point of view. I don't have icons on the desktop, so I do not care from a user POV;-)
[10:05] <_StefanS_> hunger: well, kde4 is not finished yet, so it will be improved along the way..
[10:05] <_StefanS_> I hope.
[10:05]  * nareshov too sincerely hopes 
[10:06] <hunger> _StefanS_: Well, it will pick up Decibel and other stuff, so it will improve;-)
[10:06] <hunger> _StefanS_: Let's just hope that the stuff that is annoying right now will improve as well.
[10:07] <_StefanS_> hunger: yep I think it will. I just hope they will optimize the UI for general usage along the way, and not wait ~3-4years. I think it so unusable in its current state (and thats without window animations, fades and that).
[10:07] <hunger> I hope that butt-ugly menu thingy will vanish as well... I always hated suse's menu in KDE3, now I have to see it on every distribution in KDE4.
[10:08] <nareshov> we need a Finder kind of thing
[10:08] <hunger> And it even got more ugly in the conversion (cramped icons and everything).
[10:09] <_StefanS_> hunger: yep that menu is definitely not good.. but then again I dont have anything else that the regular "start"-menu approach to suggest either.
[10:09] <hunger> THe good ol' K-menu was good enough for years. I want it back;-)
[10:10] <nareshov> the old style menu is there in kde4
[10:10] <_StefanS_> hunger: cant you change that btw?
[10:10] <hunger> I hardly ever need a menu anyway.
[10:10] <nareshov> you can
[10:10] <_StefanS_> oka, I might want to try that sometime
[10:11] <_StefanS_> ScottK2, ScottK: did you succeed with the patch?
[10:13] <_StefanS_> hunger: what gfx card are you using?
[10:14] <_StefanS_> hunger: I have a Nvidia Quadro 570M, but I cant get it to perform decently in 2d..
[10:17] <hunger> _StefanS_: A ATI card... it basically is a very expensive framebuffer in linux.
[10:18] <_StefanS_> hunger: yep i recently got rid of ATI in my house. But this quadro thingy is just amazingly slow... i can see the webpages, windows repaint from top and down.
[10:18] <_StefanS_> pretty b0rked.
[10:18] <hunger> _StefanS_: I have a laptop, so replacing the graphics card is not that easy.
[10:20] <_StefanS_> hunger: I replaced my laptops.
[10:20] <_StefanS_> hunger: using new thinkpads now
[10:21] <_StefanS_> ah I think i found something... dynamic clocks is ruining performance in 2d..
[10:24] <nareshov> _StefanS_: you mean dynamic cpu frequency policy?
[10:25] <_StefanS_> nareshov: nope the gpu frequency policy
[10:25] <hunger> nareshov: That or dynamic clocks on the GPU.
[10:25] <_StefanS_> nareshov: the cpu has not effect, I tried it.
[10:25] <_StefanS_> not/no
[10:26] <nareshov> k
[11:08] <Jucato> here we go again :/ http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/247/
[11:08] <Hobbsee> more spam?
[11:09] <jussi01> hmmm,
[11:09] <jussi01> Hobbsee: no the we need more paid canonical employees on kubuntu
[11:09] <Hobbsee> ah yeah
[11:10] <jussi01> then... the lovely gnome vs kde...
[11:10] <jussi01> sigh
[11:11]  * Jucato sighs with jussi01
[11:21] <Hobbsee> some nice stuff on there
[11:38]  * hunger is looking for a "clean up the base system idea"....
[11:39] <hunger> I really hate those errors visible when usplash is disabled.
[11:45] <Serega> hiya!
[11:47]  * hunger wonders which account is needed to access brainstorm...
[11:48] <Nightrose> hunger: QA account
[11:48] <Nightrose> like the one for iso testing
[11:48] <Nightrose> that is the one i used
[11:48] <hunger> That is a different one from launchpad, the wiki, mailman and whatnot?
[11:48] <Nightrose> jep
[11:48] <Nightrose> when you register a new account there it lists all the services you can use it at
[11:49] <Nightrose> just above the registration form
[11:49] <hunger> The ubuntu website is so sucky! Launchpad is so annoying and confusing, you need different accounts all over the place, the ubuntu.com site has hardly any info at all.
[11:50] <Nightrose> there was a wish @ brainstorm for access with open id for everything ;-)
[11:50] <Nightrose> I think you want to give that a +
[11:50] <hunger> There are lots of cool sites, but you need to find out about them one by one.
[11:50] <Nightrose> :P
[11:50] <hunger> Nightrose: Nope, can't be bothered to create yet another account for yet another system where I'll get ignored;-)
[11:51] <Nightrose> well I gave all the kubuntu stuff a +
[11:51] <Nightrose> we need more kubuntu there after all
[11:51] <Nightrose> at least there is a slight chance it helps
[11:52] <hunger> If something bothers me enough I'll just write some bugreport in launchpad. At least I have an account for that;-)
[11:53] <Nightrose> well once you got an account there you can use it for iso testing as well...
[11:53] <Nightrose> so it is not entirely useless
[11:53] <hunger> Iso testing is useless to me. I aptitude upgrade;-)
[11:54] <Nightrose> useless to you... - not useless to kubuntu ;-)
[11:55] <hunger> Nightrose: Sorry, I just do not care enough anymore to bother. I got work to do and there is lots of more interesting stuff out there to do in my spare time.
[11:55] <Nightrose> yea sure
[11:56] <hunger> I do write bugreports (when something annoys me enough), I even try to fix stuff and append patches to those reports, but that is all I am willing to contribute back.
[11:56] <Nightrose> which is more than a lot of other people do
[11:58] <hunger> And I do read the bugreports on the stuff I wrote, so that I may help those guys that package it. But that is not "helping ubuntu" but doing the more interesting stuff;-)
[12:02] <ryanakca> nixternal: lol :P
[12:02]  * ryanakca wonders how many other distros get spammed
[12:03] <Hobbsee> the popular ones
[12:03] <ryanakca> heh
[12:34] <mhb> good afternoon friend
[12:34] <mhb> friends
[12:39] <Hobbsee> hiya
[12:40] <Jucato> hi mhb
[12:41] <Jucato> looks like someone successfully made a kcron kcm :)
[13:03] <mhb> Jucato: groovy
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[16:22] <mhb> is it so silent these days?
[16:22] <nosrednaekim> yeah.... silent....
[16:23] <nosrednaekim> actually, is it too late to change something in the desktop-effect-kde? the descriptions of the different levels need serious help :)
[16:23] <emonkey> seems like that
[16:23] <emonkey> .oO(I spoke about the silence)
[16:24] <mhb> nosrednaekim: I hope they still accept bug fixes
[16:24] <mhb> it's not even March, after all
[16:25] <nosrednaekim> ok, i'll hurry up and change that then
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[18:32] <nixternal> mornin'
[18:32] <jpatrick> nixternal: don't worry, we all got killed from OFTC
[18:32] <Nightrose> hey nixternal :)
[18:32] <nixternal> heh
[18:33] <nixternal> jpatrick: any idea what that was all about?
[18:33] <jpatrick> <Ganneff> bug in services turning something into a *@* kline.
[18:33] <jpatrick> Rock on!
[18:33] <nixternal> ahhh
[18:33] <nixternal> nice
[18:33] <nixternal> Bug 1, OFTC 0
[18:33] <jpatrick> evenin' nonetheless :)
[18:33] <nixternal> bug in services == we got hax0red
[18:38] <jpatrick> yeah, that would explain it...
[19:00] <jpatrick> heh: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57857/
[19:09]  * nixternal puts the core-dev lu*re into the water and checks to see if they are biting
[19:10] <mhb> hax0red?
[19:10] <mhb> aww
[19:10] <nixternal> ya, I had to 1980s 1337 on it
[19:10] <mhb> what was hacked again?
[19:10] <mhb> I'm not sure I follow
[19:11] <nixternal> nothing probably, but OFTC crashed earlier giving everyone a *@* kline
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[19:41] <nixternal> anyone else experiencing problems with archive.ubuntu.com?
[19:43] <Nightrose> worksforme
[19:43] <neversfelde> for me too
[19:51] <nixternal> now its working
[19:58] <_StefanS_> evening
[19:58] <_StefanS_> kwwii: hey
[19:59] <jpatrick> evening _StefanS_
[19:59] <_StefanS_> hey jp
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[20:16] <nixternal> hrmm, there aren't many updates to kde 4.0.2 extragear packages
[20:16] <nixternal> mostly just strings
[20:30] <NthDegree> where can I find a list of .patch files used in the Ubuntu Gutsy kernel?
[20:30] <nixternal> ARGH!
[20:30] <jpatrick> NthDegree: http://patches.ubuntu.com/
[20:31] <jpatrick> NthDegree: apt-get source PackageNameYouWant
[20:34] <NthDegree> jpatrick: it doesn't seem to give me a list of .patch files unless i'm missing something
[20:34] <NthDegree> just one big clump of a patch
[20:39] <NthDegree> jpatrick: what i'm meaning to look for are things like the individual patch file ubuntu uses for dazuko or for apparmor for example
[20:40] <jpatrick> NthDegree: you'll have to fetch the source package then
[20:40] <NthDegree> i've got the package known as linux-source but that has kernel sources which are already patched right?
[20:41] <NthDegree> and the sources to kernel-sources are a bunch of linux-meta bits which are just confusing the hell outta me :(
[20:41] <jpatrick> maybe #ubuntu-kernel could help better?
[20:41] <NthDegree> ah, didn't know there was such a channel.. thanks =]
[21:29] <mhb> come on, it's friday night, let's have a flame war!
[21:30] <Nightrose> is this a regular thing? I must have missed it until now :P
[21:30] <Nightrose> ok do we go for the usual vi vs emacs? or something more advanced?
[21:32] <mhb> we could have a "linux is a no good unix"
[21:32] <mhb> I've heard that a lot of times
[21:33] <mhb> from the lecturers at "Introduction to UNIX"
[21:34] <Nightrose> sounds good
[21:34] <mhb> also
[21:34] <mhb> is there a command-not-found app for man pages?
[21:34] <mhb> when I need a man pages I never seem to find one
[21:34] <Nightrose> we could also do a nice kubuntu vs suse
[21:34] <mhb> or are command liners not in favour anymore?
[21:35] <mhb> Nightrose: I would have to know suse
[21:35] <Nightrose> true
[21:35] <Nightrose> ok then a kubuntu vs whatever
[21:36] <mhb> what do you think of that brainstorm think?
[21:36] <mhb> thing
[21:36] <mhb> I don't find it very helpful
[21:36] <mhb> ideas has never been a problem
[21:37] <Nightrose> well if it helps making these ideas heard then I am all for it
[21:37] <mhb> have
[21:37] <Nightrose> just not sure it does help with that
[21:37] <Nightrose> I really hope though
[21:37]  * Nightrose voted for all the good kubuntu stuff 
[21:39] <mhb> I'd vote for
[21:39] <mhb> * more automation in package management
[21:39] <mhb> * more automation in configuration tool building
[21:39] <mhb> * more automation in testing
[21:39] <mhb> * spending more time code reviewing so the code isn't slow as hell
[21:40] <mhb> I've never understood how can you people tinker with packaging
[21:40] <mhb> but that's my very personal opinion
[21:42] <mhb> I'd be happy if we could just let packaging to the machines
[21:42] <mhb> and concentrate on bug fixes and coding
[21:43] <Nightrose> I suppose a lot of people would be happy with that
[21:43] <mhb> then why aren't they trying to make it reality?
[21:44] <Nightrose> iDunno
[21:45]  * Nightrose gets something to eat
[21:56] <blizzzek> in certain situations, my xserver freezes the system. thist afternoon while playing freeciv, now having amarok frontend open :-/
[22:10] <ryanakca> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe klipper-kde4 4:4.0.1-0ubuntu6 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
[22:10] <ryanakca> among others, that's after running 'sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade'
[22:11] <jpatrick> ryanakca: nixternal was experiencing similiar problems earlier
[22:11] <Riddell> seele: possibly interesting question for you http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/08/02/29/1745230.shtml
[22:12] <ryanakca> jpatrick: hmm... archive.u.c seems to go into laps of trouble... same thing happened last week.
[22:24] <nixternal> Riddell: did you get my link to the 2 debdiffs I did for gwenview and polyester?
[22:24] <nixternal> ryanakca: ya, I was getting that earlier as well
[22:26]  * kwwii makes it back from a very delayed flight
[22:26] <nixternal> howdy kwwii
[22:28] <Riddell> nixternal: nope
[22:28] <nixternal> http://www.nixternal.com/~rj
[22:28] <Riddell> kwwii: enjoyed london?
[22:28] <nixternal> both of those are just minor fixes to close out some bugs
[22:29] <nixternal> the polyester one might be a good backport candidate
[22:29] <kwwii> Riddell: oh, package training was *so* much fun
[22:30] <Riddell> kwwii for MOTU!
[22:30] <nixternal> +1 :)
[22:30] <kwwii> and having a flight delayed so that I miss my connection in Zurich (spent 11 hours underway) was the cherry on top of it all
[22:30] <kwwii> Riddell: lol, trust me, you do not want that (but others at the company do!)
[22:38] <Riddell> nixternal: uploaded, thanks
[22:46] <mhb> man, I feel lonely :o)
[22:46] <mhb> aanyway
[22:46] <nixternal> Riddell: thank you!
[22:46] <mhb> Riddell: hi, have you tried fixing any of the jockey-kde bugs?
[22:46]  * nixternal goes and does some quick chores before getting back to bug destruction
[22:49] <mhb> hrm.
[22:51] <nixternal> howdy raphink
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[23:02] <_StefanS_> kwwii: hey
[23:02] <_StefanS_> kwwii: you awake?
[23:03] <_StefanS_> kwwii: just read the scrollback... seems like some flight delays catched up with you :)
[23:03] <Riddell> mhb: I've not really look at it at all
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[23:25]  * txwikinger is amused about nixternal's comment to a bug
[23:26] <Nightrose> txwikinger: the confuzius one? *g*
[23:26] <nixternal> the one where the guy told me about opening my mouth or something?
[23:27] <txwikinger> Nightrose: yep
[23:27] <nixternal> oh that one
[23:27] <nixternal> lol
[23:27] <Nightrose> hehe yea that was a good one
[23:27] <Nightrose> nixternal++
[23:27] <nosrednaekim> link?
[23:27] <nixternal> someone used a bug report to document how to compile the kernel for a grub issue or something
[23:27] <txwikinger> Confuzius confuses many very confused people
[23:27] <nixternal> I was like, put it on the wiki not here
[23:27] <Nightrose> nosrednaekim: sec
[23:27] <nixternal> that was for kmahjongg
[23:27] <txwikinger> yes nixternal
[23:28] <txwikinger> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/kdegames/+bug/181152/comments/5
[23:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 181152 in kdegames-kde4 "KMahjongg generates non-solvable boards (at least when pressing shuffle)" [Undecided,Won't fix]
[23:28] <nixternal> someone in here said "oh so we should add a gnome-mode to kmahjongg"
[23:28] <Nightrose> right that one
[23:28] <nixternal> hahaha
[23:28] <Nightrose> :P
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> or like a vista mode to Minesweeper (keep the same game next timecause I think I have good short term memory and want to amaze my freinds)
[23:29] <nixternal> hahahahah
[23:30]  * Nightrose had quite a few "interesting" bugs today as well when triaging some amarok bugs
[23:31] <nosrednaekim> !info lmms (hardy)
[23:31] <ubotu> lmms (source: lmms): Linux Multimedia Studio. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 2529 kB, installed size 6428 kB
[23:31] <nosrednaekim> !info lmms (gutsy)
[23:31] <ubotu> lmms (source: lmms): Linux Multimedia Studio. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 2525 kB, installed size 6436 kB
[23:31] <nosrednaekim> my freind is singing that app's praises right now ^^
[23:32] <nosrednaekim> nixternal» hahaha....
[23:46] <nixternal> who's buying dinner?
[23:47]  * Nightrose votes for blizzzek
[23:47] <nixternal> I think I am going to make me a Chicken Caeser salda with a bit of wine
[23:48] <nixternal> ya, I can speeel, salad!
[23:48] <txwikinger> Yes, we can!
[23:49] <nixternal> the question is, should I bread and fry the chicken breast a bit or be totally healthy and broil it?
[23:50]  * nixternal goes for the unhealthy breaded and fried
[23:51] <txwikinger> deep-fry nixternal
[23:51]  * txwikinger has lived far too long in the South :D
[23:52]  * blizzzek does not participate in this terrible consumption
[23:53] <Nightrose> blizzzek: vegetarian?
[23:53] <blizzzek> yepp :)
[23:54]  * nosrednaekim chops off a chicken's neck in front of blizzzek
[23:54] <Nightrose> oO
[23:54]  * nosrednaekim sees its only a rubber chicken
[23:54] <txwikinger> Ain't chicken vegetable?
[23:54] <blizzzek> txwikinger: it isn't green, is it?
[23:55] <Nightrose> blizzzek: still paying for dinner for nixternal and me? ;-)
[23:55] <txwikinger> well.. you can put spinach in the breading
[23:56]  * txwikinger goes to breed green chicken
[23:56] <blizzzek> Nightrose: http://www.comics.com/comics/herman/archive/images/herman2008073346229.jpg
[23:57] <Nightrose> Oo
[23:58] <blizzzek> enjoy...