2008/01/16/#xubuntu.txt

[02:10] <bassinboy> which repo holds bcm43xx-fwcutter?
[02:11] <soldats> synaptic should find it in a search
[02:12] <bassinboy> i return nothing.
[02:13] <soldats> what is it for
[02:13] <bassinboy> ok weird, using apt-get i got it
[02:13] <bassinboy> wireless
[02:13] <soldats> ahh
=== thomas__ is now known as The-Kernel
[04:51] <nerous2> alo!  i need some help with virtual box
[04:51] <nerous2> it keeps crashing on me
[04:56] <somerville32> I guess it crashed again :P
[09:02] <somerville32> TheSheep, Would you be able to keep me an SVG icon that conforms to the current style of Xubuntu for the Xubuntu applications menu?
[09:02] <somerville32> It is currently a png and hence I don't think it scales very nicely
[09:14] <TheSheep> somerville32: I already made one and uploaded to the wiki
[09:14] <TheSheep> somerville32: I think 1.5 years ago
[09:14] <somerville32> TheSheep, Link?
[09:21] <TheSheep> searching the ubuntu wiki is surely slow
[09:23] <TheSheep> somerville32: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Artwork/Feisty
[09:23] <TheSheep> somerville32: see under 'Logo'
[09:23] <TheSheep> a year ago
[09:25] <TheSheep> Ah, distinctly I rememeber, it was in the bleak December
[09:26] <TheSheep> And each separate dying ember, wrought its ghost upon the floor
[09:26] <somerville32> lol
[09:26] <somerville32> thanks :)
[10:51] <nanbudh> how can i check for signal strength of my wifi card  on my xubuntu box?
[11:00] <nanbudh> the nm applet which is installed by default does not show the wifi signal strength. is there anything i can install for that? in system>network>wireless-connection-properties when i open the list of avalable networks it show "NETGEAR 17%" is this signal strength? if yes then should 17% at least open a page or two?
[11:36] <witozzo> that is the signal strangth ;) and it is quite low to be usable in my opinion
[12:02] <nanbudh> witozzo: okay so at least it means that all is installed properly. But the strange thing is that a newer windows laptop placed besides the errrant xubuntu desktop picks up internet very well. could it be that OS is making a difference or is it purely a hardware issue?
[12:05] <witozzo> well, it should be just an hardware issue
[12:08] <TheSheep> nanbudh: check if it's the smae network
[12:08] <TheSheep> same
[12:09] <nanbudh> its the same network i am sure of it. there is no other network picked up.
[12:11] <nanbudh> the signal strength should not be this weak, it just a 15 mtrs away max. and not too many walls too. has to be card hardware issue
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[13:13] <kwhk> hi, anyone there uses secpanel?
=== hfsdo_ is now known as hfsdo
[14:36] <nerous> hey all
[14:36] <nerous> anyone around i need some quick help
[14:37] <maxamillion> nerous: i have to leave in just a moment, but what's up?
[14:37] <nerous> why does virtualbox keeps freezing my computer?
[14:38] <nerous> i am running 7.10 xubuntu and the latest ver of  vb
[14:38] <nerous> i needed to install windows on it for some applications that i have already purchased and blackberry support
[14:39] <maxamillion> ah! ... sorry, i have to go
[14:39] <maxamillion> bbl
=== maxamillion is now known as notMax
[16:32] <stone[no]> Hi, what is the best video player plugin for Firefox (with best performance)? (xine-plugin hung my pc several times today)
[16:33] <TheSheep> if there was a singl;e best one, it would be the default
[16:34] <TheSheep> I use the vlc one, but I don't watch video often
[16:40] <stone[no]> TheSheep: Thanks, I'll give it a go.
[17:20] <white_eagle> I didn't knew,but xfce is really nice!
[17:23] <TheSheep> it can be made nice, yes
[17:48] <patientfox> what's a way to find out my screen resolution in x?
[18:25] <texnicer> Moin
[18:27] <texnicer> I found a strange behaviour after installin Gutsy Gibbon: while mountin <something LIKE USB-Stick or USB-HDD> this mount is rather unstable and will umount after randomly and approximatly 3min... anyone can give me a clue on that? Which information are needed? TIA.
[18:27] <TheSheep> texnicer: try looking at the end of your dmesg
[18:27] <texnicer> rgr
[18:28] <TheSheep> texnicer: it might be something with the cable or the hardware
[18:28] <texnicer> TheSheep:   hm... looks like the HUB is doing trouble..
[18:29] <texnicer> port 1 disabled by HUB (EMI?) re-enabeling
[18:30] <texnicer> hm... I found that problem with my USB directly attached to the computer, too. But this is definitly a HW prob, I see
[18:32] <texnicer> TheSheep: now I got the errormessage: scsi 12:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device \newline FAT: Directory bread (block1..56) failed.
[18:32] <texnicer> what could this mean. HDD error?
[18:32] <texnicer> hm fs-error or problems mounting an ubuntusystem on an ubuntusystem?
[18:33] <TheSheep> no, I think that just the filesystem module couldn't read from/write to the device (because it got disconnected at lower layer)
[18:34] <texnicer> TheSheep: ok. I check forums on that. Trying direct attach later. Thank you for help
[18:40] <texnicer> TheSheep: Direct connect makes it stable. Just one more: Using an USB-Stick, which fs would you prefer if you also have to transfer between win/linux?
[18:41] <TheSheep> texnicer: fat, unfortunately
[18:41] <TheSheep> texnicer: unless you are willing to install additional drivers on the windows
[18:42] <texnicer> what about FAT32 . which makes the mount type -t vfat <- is that right?
[18:42] <texnicer> *LOL* saw new GIMP splash ...
[18:42] <texnicer> nice balloon
[18:43] <TheSheep> texnicer: yes, I meant fat32, mount should actually autodetect the filesystem type
[18:43] <texnicer> copy on that
[18:43] <TheSheep> texnicer: so you can skip that -t
[18:43] <texnicer> thx for help you really saved my evening =)
[18:44] <TheSheep> glad I could help
[19:13] <neopsyche> hi can anyone help me install xubuntu on my old hardware?
=== notMax is now known as maxamillion
[19:16] <Ven]n> why is there a keyring for wifi?
[19:16] <Ven]n> i want it gone
[19:19] <texnicer> neo? uhm gone?
[19:26] <HalfShell> hi everyone. how are you all today?
[19:29] <somerville32> HalfShell, doing well :)
[19:34] <maxamillion> somerville32: hey man, long time no speak
[19:34] <somerville32> Heya maxamillion :)
[19:34] <maxamillion> somerville32: how have you been holding up?
[19:34] <somerville32> Doing alright. Yourself?
[19:34] <maxamillion> horribly busy ... but not half bad otherwise
[19:34] <Ven]n> how to set a keyboard shortcut for terminal?
[19:35]  * maxamillion is actually at work right now
[19:35] <maxamillion> Ven]n: in the keyboard settings in settings manager
[19:35] <maxamillion> Ven]n: you will have to create a custom keyboard "profile" but it will copy all the defaults automatically to your new one and then allow you to add your own
[19:37] <HalfShell> hey guys, i have this wifi problem i was wondering if anyone could help me with... it has to do with WPA enterprise
[19:37] <Ven]n> thanks maxamillion
[19:38] <Ven]n> command to run terminal is terminal? hehe
[19:38] <Ven]n> no.. :/
[19:48] <Djerkaf> Hi, I have tried to install Xubuntu on my old PC, but the installation freezes when it's trying to identify the disk format. What to do?
[19:50] <Ven]n> what terminal is standard in xubuntu?
[19:51] <TheSheep> xfce-terminal
[19:51] <TheSheep> but terminal should be linked to it
[19:52] <TheSheep> xfce4-terminal, sorry
[19:53] <noonan> anyone here/
[19:53] <zoredache> !anyone
[19:53] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[19:53] <Ven]n> why cant i start it with that command, TheSheep?
[19:54] <Ven]n> worked :D
[19:54] <Ven]n> thanks alot
[20:01] <qwerku2> hi all
[20:01] <qwerku2> i hate updating my system
[20:02] <TheSheep> qwerku2: then don't
[20:02] <qwerku2> lol
[20:02] <qwerku2> well
[20:02] <TheSheep> no, really, don't fix things that work
[20:02] <qwerku2> but this time, eveything worked fine
[20:02] <qwerku2> :)
[20:03] <qwerku2> i was hapily surprised to discover my fbconsole AGAIN
[20:03] <qwerku2> that's why I'm here
[20:03] <qwerku2> since i tried to solve that problem a few month ago
[20:03] <qwerku2> i'm very interested in the "official" solution
[20:04] <qwerku2> en clair: what was fucked up ?
[20:04] <qwerku2> So, does anyone here know about the ex-fbconsole problem ?
[20:06] <Ven]n> why does wifi asks for password on keyring?
[20:06] <TheSheep> qwerku2: please don't swear, have you checked the forums?
[20:07] <TheSheep> qwerku2: what's the problem exactly?
[20:07] <TheSheep> Ven]n: to be able to access your stored passwords
[20:08] <qwerku2> TheSheep: sry. the problem is solved, I just want to know how it has been solved
[20:09] <qwerku2> after the 7.10 upgrade, most of us lost the usual frame buffer console
[20:09] <qwerku2> just black screen
[20:10] <qwerku2> there was quite a lot of litterature about some hacks to fix it, but nothing very conclusive
[20:10] <TheSheep> if it was reported and fixed, then it will be in the bug database
[20:10] <qwerku2> and now, i just update my system
[20:10] <TheSheep> http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[20:10] <TheSheep> just search the solved bugs
[20:12] <qwerku2> ok
[20:12] <qwerku2> searching...
[20:12] <qwerku2> thk
[20:12] <qwerku2> you
[20:23] <qwerku2> HAHA
[20:23] <qwerku2> the bug has NOT been solved ...
[20:23] <qwerku2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/129910
[20:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129910 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "Blank ttys when using vesafb (vga=xxx)" [Unknown,Fix released]
[20:24] <qwerku2> you mean there is only a soluce for ati cards ?
[20:26] <Ven]n> line commented out by installer because it failed to verify
[20:26] <Ven]n> wut?
[20:26] <Ven]n> a fresh install of eeexubuntu
[20:28] <Ven]n> what should i do?
[20:28] <qwerku2> what is your problem ?
[20:29] <Ven]n> all repositories are uncommented
[20:29] <Ven]n> for some reason
[20:29] <qwerku2> you mean in file /etc/apt/sources.lst
[20:29] <Ven]n> yeah
[20:29] <Ven]n> commented out i mean
[20:29] <Ven]n> hehe
[20:29] <Ven]n> they all have #
[20:30] <Ven]n> and over them a new line saying line commented out by installer because it failed to verify¨
[20:30] <qwerku2> could you post your file somewhere ?
[20:30] <Ven]n> yeah
[20:30] <Ven]n> one sec
[20:31] <Ven]n> is there a text editor in gnome like kwrite?
[20:31] <qwerku2> gedit
[20:31] <qwerku2> (i guess)
[20:31] <TheSheep> but xubuntu has mousepad
[20:31] <qwerku2> yup
[20:31] <qwerku2> but he asks for gnomw
[20:31] <Ven]n> gedit didnt exist :p
[20:31] <Ven]n> hehe
[20:31] <Ven]n> sorry
[20:31] <qwerku2> and mousepad ?
[20:32] <Ven]n> worky :)
[20:32] <Ven]n> http://rafb.net/p/nUFhhh44.html
[20:33] <qwerku2> my advice:
[20:34] <qwerku2> backup first
[20:34] <qwerku2> blank out everything
[20:34] <qwerku2> and put the minimum required
[20:34] <TheSheep> what's the problem?
[20:34]  * TheSheep looks
[20:34] <qwerku2> installer fails to verify depos
[20:34] <qwerku2> looks like a connection problem to me
[20:35] <TheSheep> Ven]n: you can just uncomment them manually?
[20:35] <qwerku2> ofc
[20:35] <qwerku2> also
[20:35] <Ven]n> TheSheep, all ?
[20:35] <qwerku2> add your local prepos
[20:35] <Ven]n> im was uncertain if i should uncomment all of them
[20:35] <Ven]n> hehe
[20:36] <TheSheep> Ven]n: you can use system->software sources
[20:36] <TheSheep> Ven]n: I'd leave out the 'proposed' upgrades
[20:36] <TheSheep> Ven]n: the yare not tested
[20:36] <Ven]n> ok.. if i use the software sources
[20:37] <Ven]n> canonicalsupported open source software (main)
[20:37] <Ven]n> community-maintained (universe)
[20:37] <Ven]n> proprietary drivers for devices (restriced)
[20:37] <Ven]n> software restriced by copyrioght or legal issues (multiverse)
[20:37] <Ven]n> those are under "ubuntu software"'
[20:38] <Ven]n> which should i enable? :)
[20:38] <TheSheep> all :)
[20:38] <TheSheep> !repos
[20:38] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[20:39] <Ven]n> source code as well?
[20:39] <TheSheep> Ven]n: not really, unless you want to compile something yourself
[20:39] <Ven]n> right
[20:40] <Ven]n> downloading packet information
[20:40] <Ven]n> :)
[20:40] <Ven]n> wonder why the installer commented all those out
[20:41] <TheSheep> Ven]n: it probably tried to connect to them and failed
[20:41] <Ven]n> yeah, i hadnt set up wifi
[20:42] <TheSheep> Ven]n: then concluded you have no net access, so it should only use the cd...
[20:42] <Ven]n> was that bad?
[20:42] <Ven]n> :)
[20:43] <TheSheep> it's the expected behavior, works fine for most users :)
[20:43] <Ven]n> can i empty the whole file sources.list and set it up with system->software sources again?
[20:43] <TheSheep> sure
[20:43] <Ven]n> its so messy
[20:43] <TheSheep> or you can use the Easy Source to generate a list for you
[20:43] <TheSheep> !easysource
[20:43] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[20:43] <Ven]n> cool
[20:44] <Ven]n> i will do that :D
[20:44] <Ven]n> thanks alot
[20:45] <Ven]n> Upstream Opera	
[20:45] <Ven]n> The Opera developers provide their product in this repository.
[20:45] <Ven]n> thats the opera browser i assume?
[20:45] <TheSheep> probably
[20:45] <Ven]n> and beryl.. is there a point in having lates there?
[20:45] <Ven]n> or will stable work fine?
[20:45] <TheSheep> eaither this, or some tickets for the Carmen ;)
[20:45] <Ven]n> i prefer lates from opera..
[20:45] <Ven]n> ;D
[20:46] <TheSheep> Ven]n: you can always add repos when you need them
[20:46] <Ven]n> i know
[20:46] <Ven]n> will skip beryl so far
[20:48] <Ven]n> excellent.. updating
[21:11] <Ven]n> so.. why does keyring ask for password everytime i boot?
[21:11] <Ven]n> it looks for wifi..
[21:15] <texnicer> !welcome back
[21:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about welcome back - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:02] <Ven]n> anyone knows how to prevent keyring to asks for password to use wifi?
[22:02] <Ven]n> "the application nm-applet wants access to the default keyring, but its locked"
[22:04] <zoredache> Ven]n: I have seen a few articles that describe how to integrate the keyring with pam
[22:04] <zoredache> so if your keyring password is the same as your login password then it automatically works.  But the directions I tried didn't work.
[22:04] <ddddd> isnt there a group to make a user member ?
[22:05] <zoredache> ddddd: sorry?
[22:05] <ddddd> to make use of wifi
[22:06] <ddddd> without asing passwords
[22:06] <zoredache> I am betting he has access to wifi, but his wpa/wep key is stored in the keyring
[22:07] <ddddd> ah
[22:07] <zoredache> I don't think adding a user to a group would make his wpa/wep password available if it is in the keyring
[22:15] <Ven]n> hrmf
[22:26] <ddddd> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/+bug/161122
[22:26] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 161122 in gnome-keyring "nm_applet prompts for password on startup" [Undecided,New]
[22:30] <Ven]n> thanks
[22:30] <Ven]n> how do I fix auto-login btw?
[22:31] <TheSheep> Ven]n: fix?
[22:33] <Ven]n> uhm.. set it on :D
[22:34] <TheSheep> settings->login window
[22:34] <Ven]n> cool
[22:34] <Ven]n> thanks :D
[23:01] <Proto> hello all
[23:02] <soldats> :)
[23:02] <Proto> when i plug in my ipod, Rhythmbox starts automatically. How can i stop this, or use a different program
[23:03] <TheSheep> Proto: open Thunar, go to edit->preferences->advanced->configure volume manager
[23:03] <TheSheep> Proto: second tab
[23:03] <Proto> thanks
[23:05] <Proto> i see where it should be, but i don't see an option for iPods, nor is there anything using Rhythmbox as its program
[23:08] <somerville32> Proto, Do you have ubutnu-desktop installed?
[23:09] <Proto> i'll check. i'm using xubuntu though, of course
[23:15] <Proto> no, i only have xubuntu-desktop
[23:17] <soldats> proto did you fix your ipod/rythmbox problem
[23:17] <Proto> no
[23:18] <Proto> i feel like i'm closer though :-)
[23:18] <soldats> do you use rythmbox for your ipod or do you use something else
[23:18] <Proto> i'd like to use gtkpod
[23:19] <soldats> i think if you go to edit > plugins and remove the check next to ipod support it wont pop up. i left my ipod at work so i cant check
[23:19] <soldats> from rythmbox
[23:27] <march> removing the check next to ipod support works here ;)
[23:28] <march> goodnight :)
[23:32] <Proto> thanks everyone
[23:32] <Proto> i'm out
[23:32] <Proto> power to the people