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[ { "content": "Father in law passed away. Wife is being sent $8k in bills and threatened with collection from the nursing home where he spent his final days. She never had any agreement with the home for care or services. How should we respond to 30 day collection notices? We’re In Ohio.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Not clear if it his wife or your wife (his child). For purposes of discussion I will assume it is your wife as the executor. In the past I have found nursing homes and other providers will work with you if you tell them what is going on. The bills are against the estate. Does he have the assets to pay them? If you tell the nursing home that you are selling his property and the bill will be paid in 60 days vice total silence, they should work with you. If the estate is going to be in the negative, spend money on a lawyer if you haven't already. Filial responsibility laws are narrow in scope and some states do not have them. Again, this is where a lawyer comes in handy. Best bet is to build the ledger for the estate. Assets and liabilities. From there you can make informed decisions.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Father in law passed away. Wife is being sent $8k in bills and threatened with collection from the nursing home where he spent his final days. She never had any agreement with the home for care or services. How should we respond to 30 day collection notices? We’re In Ohio.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "So Ohio does have a filial responsibility law, but according to most of the online reading, courts rarely enforce this. Some of the questions would be: Was FIL covered by Medicare or Medicaid? They should be covering any payments. Was there an estate? If so, that is where payments would come from first. And then, while this is not legal advice, are you getting notices from the home or a collection agency? Either way, they are demand letters but have no force of law. They can make all the noise they want but only a court can tell you that you have an obligation to pay. The only time you actually have to respond is if you are served with a lawsuit in a court in your jurisdiction. Then you need to respond and possibly have an attorney assist you.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "My father [63] is living in an AZ nursing home. I just learned they forgot to give him a medication all week and he now has a complication because of it. I am way far away out of state. I'm calling to figure out what's going on today. Do I have any legal recourse?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Call Adult Protective Services in your county", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "My father [63] is living in an AZ nursing home. I just learned they forgot to give him a medication all week and he now has a complication because of it. I am way far away out of state. I'm calling to figure out what's going on today. Do I have any legal recourse?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Arizona Department of Human Services investigates medical neglect in Nursing homes. Here is the link, you can make a report online. https://www.azdhs.gov/licensing/ltc-facilities/index.php", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Can I do anything about my neighbors broken down cars that have been on the street for years? My neighbors have a total of 4 broken down cars, not including the 2-3 cars they actively drive. They are a household of I think 4 people total. They have 2 broken down cars occupying the back third of their backyard(we have alleys here so most people tend to park in back) preventing them from parking back there. It’s their yard though so, whatever. Then out front, they have a broken down truck and van that are parked on the street and haven’t moved in at least a year. The cars are visibly broken down and are missing parts like windows and bumpers. We do not have designated parking spots, we live in the city in the hospital district so parking out front is already hard enough competing with the nurses, let alone my neighbors and their 7 total vehicles. The vehicles definitely belong to them because back when I first moved in 5 or so years ago, they drove those cars. But sometime in mid 2020 they stopped, parked them up next to each other on the curb and have never moved them since. Never seen anyone come to work on them, they’ve simply never moved since for well over a year if not close to two years now. Is there anything I can do to force these people to deal with or remove these vehicles? Can I have them towed for being clearly broken and parked on the city street for over a year? Will I get in trouble for having them towed if I know they belong to my neighbors? I’ve tried talking to these people before but they’re either not home/ignoring my knocking, or they tell me they’ll deal with it later and never do. Mind you these people are also garbage hoarders that have had city health inspectors called on them by the previous landlord, so they’re clearly not in the habit of letting go of garbage. Any advice or links or anything would be greatly appreciated. For background, I live in the city of Tacoma WA. Thank you!", "role": "user" }, { "content": ">we live in Tacoma, WA] in the hospital district Are you in the Mary Bridge / Wright Park neighborhood or elsewhere ? In general, the only agency with authority to tow inoperable vehicles from street parking that aren't actually blocking traffic/hydrants/access within the City of Tacoma is the Public Works department's \"Road Use Compliance Officers\". They are still prioritizing health and safety issues over nuisance vehicles, but they're [the agency to which you can make a report. Similarly, City code inspectors have authority over derelict vehicles on private property in some instances. If health inspectors are addressing other problems with the property, they haven't overlooked the cars. >Will I get in trouble for having them towed if I know they belong to my neighbors? No licensed private towing company is going to touch them if you don't have a registration. If you talked one into it, or hired a gypsy tow rig, your neighbors would have a cause of action against you for the impound fees. In my neighborhood there are about 30 RVs being used for housing, and most of them were towed to their locations by a couple of entrepreneurs who have a tow truck and have a thriving business moving trailers whenever they get red-tagged by the City. Their services can be purchased informally for cash.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Can I do anything about my neighbors broken down cars that have been on the street for years? My neighbors have a total of 4 broken down cars, not including the 2-3 cars they actively drive. They are a household of I think 4 people total. They have 2 broken down cars occupying the back third of their backyard(we have alleys here so most people tend to park in back) preventing them from parking back there. It’s their yard though so, whatever. Then out front, they have a broken down truck and van that are parked on the street and haven’t moved in at least a year. The cars are visibly broken down and are missing parts like windows and bumpers. We do not have designated parking spots, we live in the city in the hospital district so parking out front is already hard enough competing with the nurses, let alone my neighbors and their 7 total vehicles. The vehicles definitely belong to them because back when I first moved in 5 or so years ago, they drove those cars. But sometime in mid 2020 they stopped, parked them up next to each other on the curb and have never moved them since. Never seen anyone come to work on them, they’ve simply never moved since for well over a year if not close to two years now. Is there anything I can do to force these people to deal with or remove these vehicles? Can I have them towed for being clearly broken and parked on the city street for over a year? Will I get in trouble for having them towed if I know they belong to my neighbors? I’ve tried talking to these people before but they’re either not home/ignoring my knocking, or they tell me they’ll deal with it later and never do. Mind you these people are also garbage hoarders that have had city health inspectors called on them by the previous landlord, so they’re clearly not in the habit of letting go of garbage. Any advice or links or anything would be greatly appreciated. For background, I live in the city of Tacoma WA. Thank you!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Here is where you can report the abandoned vehicles (be sure to include location, car make/model, and license plate if they have one) https://www.cityoftacoma.org/cms/one.aspx?portalId=169&pageId=38900&rqst=14 It doesn't matter if you know the owner, an abandoned vehicle is any vehicle on city streets that hasn't moved for an extended period of time or is clearly inoperable. They aren't making this a priority right now unless it's a safety issue but you can at least get them in a queue.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Can I do anything about my neighbors broken down cars that have been on the street for years? My neighbors have a total of 4 broken down cars, not including the 2-3 cars they actively drive. They are a household of I think 4 people total. They have 2 broken down cars occupying the back third of their backyard(we have alleys here so most people tend to park in back) preventing them from parking back there. It’s their yard though so, whatever. Then out front, they have a broken down truck and van that are parked on the street and haven’t moved in at least a year. The cars are visibly broken down and are missing parts like windows and bumpers. We do not have designated parking spots, we live in the city in the hospital district so parking out front is already hard enough competing with the nurses, let alone my neighbors and their 7 total vehicles. The vehicles definitely belong to them because back when I first moved in 5 or so years ago, they drove those cars. But sometime in mid 2020 they stopped, parked them up next to each other on the curb and have never moved them since. Never seen anyone come to work on them, they’ve simply never moved since for well over a year if not close to two years now. Is there anything I can do to force these people to deal with or remove these vehicles? Can I have them towed for being clearly broken and parked on the city street for over a year? Will I get in trouble for having them towed if I know they belong to my neighbors? I’ve tried talking to these people before but they’re either not home/ignoring my knocking, or they tell me they’ll deal with it later and never do. Mind you these people are also garbage hoarders that have had city health inspectors called on them by the previous landlord, so they’re clearly not in the habit of letting go of garbage. Any advice or links or anything would be greatly appreciated. For background, I live in the city of Tacoma WA. Thank you!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "your local code enforcement office is the first place i'd start - https://www.cityoftacoma.org/government/city\\_departments/neighborhood\\_and\\_community\\_services/code\\_compliance\\_and\\_enforcement", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Can I do anything about my neighbors broken down cars that have been on the street for years? My neighbors have a total of 4 broken down cars, not including the 2-3 cars they actively drive. They are a household of I think 4 people total. They have 2 broken down cars occupying the back third of their backyard(we have alleys here so most people tend to park in back) preventing them from parking back there. It’s their yard though so, whatever. Then out front, they have a broken down truck and van that are parked on the street and haven’t moved in at least a year. The cars are visibly broken down and are missing parts like windows and bumpers. We do not have designated parking spots, we live in the city in the hospital district so parking out front is already hard enough competing with the nurses, let alone my neighbors and their 7 total vehicles. The vehicles definitely belong to them because back when I first moved in 5 or so years ago, they drove those cars. But sometime in mid 2020 they stopped, parked them up next to each other on the curb and have never moved them since. Never seen anyone come to work on them, they’ve simply never moved since for well over a year if not close to two years now. Is there anything I can do to force these people to deal with or remove these vehicles? Can I have them towed for being clearly broken and parked on the city street for over a year? Will I get in trouble for having them towed if I know they belong to my neighbors? I’ve tried talking to these people before but they’re either not home/ignoring my knocking, or they tell me they’ll deal with it later and never do. Mind you these people are also garbage hoarders that have had city health inspectors called on them by the previous landlord, so they’re clearly not in the habit of letting go of garbage. Any advice or links or anything would be greatly appreciated. For background, I live in the city of Tacoma WA. Thank you!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Here is where you can report the abandoned vehicles (be sure to include location, car make/model, and license plate if they have one) https://www.cityoftacoma.org/cms/one.aspx?portalId=169&pageId=38900&rqst=14 It doesn't matter if you know the owner, an abandoned vehicle is any vehicle on city streets that hasn't moved for an extended period of time or is clearly inoperable. They aren't making this a priority right now unless it's a safety issue but you can at least get them in a queue.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Can I do anything about my neighbors broken down cars that have been on the street for years? My neighbors have a total of 4 broken down cars, not including the 2-3 cars they actively drive. They are a household of I think 4 people total. They have 2 broken down cars occupying the back third of their backyard(we have alleys here so most people tend to park in back) preventing them from parking back there. It’s their yard though so, whatever. Then out front, they have a broken down truck and van that are parked on the street and haven’t moved in at least a year. The cars are visibly broken down and are missing parts like windows and bumpers. We do not have designated parking spots, we live in the city in the hospital district so parking out front is already hard enough competing with the nurses, let alone my neighbors and their 7 total vehicles. The vehicles definitely belong to them because back when I first moved in 5 or so years ago, they drove those cars. But sometime in mid 2020 they stopped, parked them up next to each other on the curb and have never moved them since. Never seen anyone come to work on them, they’ve simply never moved since for well over a year if not close to two years now. Is there anything I can do to force these people to deal with or remove these vehicles? Can I have them towed for being clearly broken and parked on the city street for over a year? Will I get in trouble for having them towed if I know they belong to my neighbors? I’ve tried talking to these people before but they’re either not home/ignoring my knocking, or they tell me they’ll deal with it later and never do. Mind you these people are also garbage hoarders that have had city health inspectors called on them by the previous landlord, so they’re clearly not in the habit of letting go of garbage. Any advice or links or anything would be greatly appreciated. For background, I live in the city of Tacoma WA. Thank you!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "The ones on their property could also violate local city laws. Found this \"Vehicles on private lots must be parked on an all weather surface and limited to up to four vehicles or no more than 60 percent of the combined front and side yard of a home. However, the lot must have legal access from the street or alley. If there is no driveway, you are not allowed to park in the yard.\" https://cms.cityoftacoma.org/HR/NCS/CBS/Park_Your_Vehicle.pdf", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Can I do anything about my neighbors broken down cars that have been on the street for years? My neighbors have a total of 4 broken down cars, not including the 2-3 cars they actively drive. They are a household of I think 4 people total. They have 2 broken down cars occupying the back third of their backyard(we have alleys here so most people tend to park in back) preventing them from parking back there. It’s their yard though so, whatever. Then out front, they have a broken down truck and van that are parked on the street and haven’t moved in at least a year. The cars are visibly broken down and are missing parts like windows and bumpers. We do not have designated parking spots, we live in the city in the hospital district so parking out front is already hard enough competing with the nurses, let alone my neighbors and their 7 total vehicles. The vehicles definitely belong to them because back when I first moved in 5 or so years ago, they drove those cars. But sometime in mid 2020 they stopped, parked them up next to each other on the curb and have never moved them since. Never seen anyone come to work on them, they’ve simply never moved since for well over a year if not close to two years now. Is there anything I can do to force these people to deal with or remove these vehicles? Can I have them towed for being clearly broken and parked on the city street for over a year? Will I get in trouble for having them towed if I know they belong to my neighbors? I’ve tried talking to these people before but they’re either not home/ignoring my knocking, or they tell me they’ll deal with it later and never do. Mind you these people are also garbage hoarders that have had city health inspectors called on them by the previous landlord, so they’re clearly not in the habit of letting go of garbage. Any advice or links or anything would be greatly appreciated. For background, I live in the city of Tacoma WA. Thank you!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Here is where you can report the abandoned vehicles (be sure to include location, car make/model, and license plate if they have one) https://www.cityoftacoma.org/cms/one.aspx?portalId=169&pageId=38900&rqst=14 It doesn't matter if you know the owner, an abandoned vehicle is any vehicle on city streets that hasn't moved for an extended period of time or is clearly inoperable. They aren't making this a priority right now unless it's a safety issue but you can at least get them in a queue.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Can I do anything about my neighbors broken down cars that have been on the street for years? My neighbors have a total of 4 broken down cars, not including the 2-3 cars they actively drive. They are a household of I think 4 people total. They have 2 broken down cars occupying the back third of their backyard(we have alleys here so most people tend to park in back) preventing them from parking back there. It’s their yard though so, whatever. Then out front, they have a broken down truck and van that are parked on the street and haven’t moved in at least a year. The cars are visibly broken down and are missing parts like windows and bumpers. We do not have designated parking spots, we live in the city in the hospital district so parking out front is already hard enough competing with the nurses, let alone my neighbors and their 7 total vehicles. The vehicles definitely belong to them because back when I first moved in 5 or so years ago, they drove those cars. But sometime in mid 2020 they stopped, parked them up next to each other on the curb and have never moved them since. Never seen anyone come to work on them, they’ve simply never moved since for well over a year if not close to two years now. Is there anything I can do to force these people to deal with or remove these vehicles? Can I have them towed for being clearly broken and parked on the city street for over a year? Will I get in trouble for having them towed if I know they belong to my neighbors? I’ve tried talking to these people before but they’re either not home/ignoring my knocking, or they tell me they’ll deal with it later and never do. Mind you these people are also garbage hoarders that have had city health inspectors called on them by the previous landlord, so they’re clearly not in the habit of letting go of garbage. Any advice or links or anything would be greatly appreciated. For background, I live in the city of Tacoma WA. Thank you!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "your local code enforcement office is the first place i'd start - https://www.cityoftacoma.org/government/city\\_departments/neighborhood\\_and\\_community\\_services/code\\_compliance\\_and\\_enforcement", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Can I do anything about my neighbors broken down cars that have been on the street for years? My neighbors have a total of 4 broken down cars, not including the 2-3 cars they actively drive. They are a household of I think 4 people total. They have 2 broken down cars occupying the back third of their backyard(we have alleys here so most people tend to park in back) preventing them from parking back there. It’s their yard though so, whatever. Then out front, they have a broken down truck and van that are parked on the street and haven’t moved in at least a year. The cars are visibly broken down and are missing parts like windows and bumpers. We do not have designated parking spots, we live in the city in the hospital district so parking out front is already hard enough competing with the nurses, let alone my neighbors and their 7 total vehicles. The vehicles definitely belong to them because back when I first moved in 5 or so years ago, they drove those cars. But sometime in mid 2020 they stopped, parked them up next to each other on the curb and have never moved them since. Never seen anyone come to work on them, they’ve simply never moved since for well over a year if not close to two years now. Is there anything I can do to force these people to deal with or remove these vehicles? Can I have them towed for being clearly broken and parked on the city street for over a year? Will I get in trouble for having them towed if I know they belong to my neighbors? I’ve tried talking to these people before but they’re either not home/ignoring my knocking, or they tell me they’ll deal with it later and never do. Mind you these people are also garbage hoarders that have had city health inspectors called on them by the previous landlord, so they’re clearly not in the habit of letting go of garbage. Any advice or links or anything would be greatly appreciated. For background, I live in the city of Tacoma WA. Thank you!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Call the non-emergency police line and report abandoned cars. They will put a sticker on them saying to move in xx number of days or they'll be towed.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Can I do anything about my neighbors broken down cars that have been on the street for years? My neighbors have a total of 4 broken down cars, not including the 2-3 cars they actively drive. They are a household of I think 4 people total. They have 2 broken down cars occupying the back third of their backyard(we have alleys here so most people tend to park in back) preventing them from parking back there. It’s their yard though so, whatever. Then out front, they have a broken down truck and van that are parked on the street and haven’t moved in at least a year. The cars are visibly broken down and are missing parts like windows and bumpers. We do not have designated parking spots, we live in the city in the hospital district so parking out front is already hard enough competing with the nurses, let alone my neighbors and their 7 total vehicles. The vehicles definitely belong to them because back when I first moved in 5 or so years ago, they drove those cars. But sometime in mid 2020 they stopped, parked them up next to each other on the curb and have never moved them since. Never seen anyone come to work on them, they’ve simply never moved since for well over a year if not close to two years now. Is there anything I can do to force these people to deal with or remove these vehicles? Can I have them towed for being clearly broken and parked on the city street for over a year? Will I get in trouble for having them towed if I know they belong to my neighbors? I’ve tried talking to these people before but they’re either not home/ignoring my knocking, or they tell me they’ll deal with it later and never do. Mind you these people are also garbage hoarders that have had city health inspectors called on them by the previous landlord, so they’re clearly not in the habit of letting go of garbage. Any advice or links or anything would be greatly appreciated. For background, I live in the city of Tacoma WA. Thank you!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "The ones on their property could also violate local city laws. Found this \"Vehicles on private lots must be parked on an all weather surface and limited to up to four vehicles or no more than 60 percent of the combined front and side yard of a home. However, the lot must have legal access from the street or alley. If there is no driveway, you are not allowed to park in the yard.\" https://cms.cityoftacoma.org/HR/NCS/CBS/Park_Your_Vehicle.pdf", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Can I do anything about my neighbors broken down cars that have been on the street for years? My neighbors have a total of 4 broken down cars, not including the 2-3 cars they actively drive. They are a household of I think 4 people total. They have 2 broken down cars occupying the back third of their backyard(we have alleys here so most people tend to park in back) preventing them from parking back there. It’s their yard though so, whatever. Then out front, they have a broken down truck and van that are parked on the street and haven’t moved in at least a year. The cars are visibly broken down and are missing parts like windows and bumpers. We do not have designated parking spots, we live in the city in the hospital district so parking out front is already hard enough competing with the nurses, let alone my neighbors and their 7 total vehicles. The vehicles definitely belong to them because back when I first moved in 5 or so years ago, they drove those cars. But sometime in mid 2020 they stopped, parked them up next to each other on the curb and have never moved them since. Never seen anyone come to work on them, they’ve simply never moved since for well over a year if not close to two years now. Is there anything I can do to force these people to deal with or remove these vehicles? Can I have them towed for being clearly broken and parked on the city street for over a year? Will I get in trouble for having them towed if I know they belong to my neighbors? I’ve tried talking to these people before but they’re either not home/ignoring my knocking, or they tell me they’ll deal with it later and never do. Mind you these people are also garbage hoarders that have had city health inspectors called on them by the previous landlord, so they’re clearly not in the habit of letting go of garbage. Any advice or links or anything would be greatly appreciated. For background, I live in the city of Tacoma WA. Thank you!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Call the non-emergency police line and report abandoned cars. They will put a sticker on them saying to move in xx number of days or they'll be towed.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Future neighbor plans to build long, paved driveway through my yard, claiming there's an easement, of which I had no knowledge. What recourse do I have? I live in Pennsylvania. Here's my obligatory Paint depiction of easement! Some background: We bought our home one year ago in a beautiful suburban neighborhood. Our neighborhood in PA was built ~30 years ago when the original farmhome (the property behind us) sold off the surrounding acres. Since then, the original farmhouse owners have sold this home a few times. This farmhouse property is behind our home, so we're located along their property line, divided by trees. This brings me to a few days ago, when I found 2 men examining the grassy yard space between me and my next-door neighbor. One guy introduces himself and says he is the future owner of the farm home behind me, tells me that there is an easement next to my home and that he plans to build a second paved driveway where this easement is, so that he has better access to his home (the other guy with him was the driveway company guy). So this LONG paved driveway would go from our curb (public road), between my home and my next door neighbors', and then back about 300 yards to his secluded farmhome. We were caught off guard by this since there's no mention of this easement in our deed and even the previous sellers did not disclose any knowledge of an easement. We are trying to get answers from our real estate agent and title company in regard to that. Since then, I've spoken with older neighbors, who could swear that easement is no longer there, that it was forfeited or altered after my house was built in 1982. I have spent hours at my county and township offices, searching for plans and documents. After playing Davinci Code, I did find evidence (map and deed from 1977 and 81) of there being a proposed easement on my land for ingress and egress and utility, which is the same paperwork the future owner has left in my mailbox. There is no mention that a driveway is or is not allowed to be constructed, but I've been told it is implied to be allowed in the terms \"ingress/egress\". It's also worth noting that in my land transfer documents, it clearly states that \"no structure shall be constructed within six foot on any side yard lot line\". Does an easement override these types of statements? At this point, my main questions are: - How can I be absolutely certain of what is currently allowed on my land? Should I wait for him to get all the permits and surveys which will certainly be required? - If the driveway is built, am I entitled to compensation from my title insurance, since we had no knowledge of this supposed easement? Is it worth lawyering up? This driveway will totally downgrade the complexion and value of our otherwise lovely property. Can anyone PLEASE offer any advice or leads for us to investigate his legal right to construct this driveway. I know it's not technically on me to do the investigating but we want to do anything we can to stop this before it gets too far. Thanks!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Does the other home have access to the road another way or do they normally drive across your property? You should hire a lawyer and figure out if there is an easement in place because this is a very important factor.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Future neighbor plans to build long, paved driveway through my yard, claiming there's an easement, of which I had no knowledge. What recourse do I have? I live in Pennsylvania. Here's my obligatory Paint depiction of easement! Some background: We bought our home one year ago in a beautiful suburban neighborhood. Our neighborhood in PA was built ~30 years ago when the original farmhome (the property behind us) sold off the surrounding acres. Since then, the original farmhouse owners have sold this home a few times. This farmhouse property is behind our home, so we're located along their property line, divided by trees. This brings me to a few days ago, when I found 2 men examining the grassy yard space between me and my next-door neighbor. One guy introduces himself and says he is the future owner of the farm home behind me, tells me that there is an easement next to my home and that he plans to build a second paved driveway where this easement is, so that he has better access to his home (the other guy with him was the driveway company guy). So this LONG paved driveway would go from our curb (public road), between my home and my next door neighbors', and then back about 300 yards to his secluded farmhome. We were caught off guard by this since there's no mention of this easement in our deed and even the previous sellers did not disclose any knowledge of an easement. We are trying to get answers from our real estate agent and title company in regard to that. Since then, I've spoken with older neighbors, who could swear that easement is no longer there, that it was forfeited or altered after my house was built in 1982. I have spent hours at my county and township offices, searching for plans and documents. After playing Davinci Code, I did find evidence (map and deed from 1977 and 81) of there being a proposed easement on my land for ingress and egress and utility, which is the same paperwork the future owner has left in my mailbox. There is no mention that a driveway is or is not allowed to be constructed, but I've been told it is implied to be allowed in the terms \"ingress/egress\". It's also worth noting that in my land transfer documents, it clearly states that \"no structure shall be constructed within six foot on any side yard lot line\". Does an easement override these types of statements? At this point, my main questions are: - How can I be absolutely certain of what is currently allowed on my land? Should I wait for him to get all the permits and surveys which will certainly be required? - If the driveway is built, am I entitled to compensation from my title insurance, since we had no knowledge of this supposed easement? Is it worth lawyering up? This driveway will totally downgrade the complexion and value of our otherwise lovely property. Can anyone PLEASE offer any advice or leads for us to investigate his legal right to construct this driveway. I know it's not technically on me to do the investigating but we want to do anything we can to stop this before it gets too far. Thanks!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Did you keep a copy of the deed you found from 1981? Assuming you found this at the county court. If this easement is not mentioned on your deed from a year ago, then there is the possibility that 1) the easement deed was not recorded 2) it was nontransferable and that would be specified in the deed of easement, or 3) your title company made an error. I would notify the \"future\" property owner that you object to his plans to perform any construction, subject to your review of the status of the easement and state a reasonable time period to do so. Allowing construction to occur may actually create an implied easement where an existing actual easement may not exist. If the easement does not appear on your deed or plat then it is more likely that it doesn't currently exist.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Future neighbor plans to build long, paved driveway through my yard, claiming there's an easement, of which I had no knowledge. What recourse do I have? I live in Pennsylvania. Here's my obligatory Paint depiction of easement! Some background: We bought our home one year ago in a beautiful suburban neighborhood. Our neighborhood in PA was built ~30 years ago when the original farmhome (the property behind us) sold off the surrounding acres. Since then, the original farmhouse owners have sold this home a few times. This farmhouse property is behind our home, so we're located along their property line, divided by trees. This brings me to a few days ago, when I found 2 men examining the grassy yard space between me and my next-door neighbor. One guy introduces himself and says he is the future owner of the farm home behind me, tells me that there is an easement next to my home and that he plans to build a second paved driveway where this easement is, so that he has better access to his home (the other guy with him was the driveway company guy). So this LONG paved driveway would go from our curb (public road), between my home and my next door neighbors', and then back about 300 yards to his secluded farmhome. We were caught off guard by this since there's no mention of this easement in our deed and even the previous sellers did not disclose any knowledge of an easement. We are trying to get answers from our real estate agent and title company in regard to that. Since then, I've spoken with older neighbors, who could swear that easement is no longer there, that it was forfeited or altered after my house was built in 1982. I have spent hours at my county and township offices, searching for plans and documents. After playing Davinci Code, I did find evidence (map and deed from 1977 and 81) of there being a proposed easement on my land for ingress and egress and utility, which is the same paperwork the future owner has left in my mailbox. There is no mention that a driveway is or is not allowed to be constructed, but I've been told it is implied to be allowed in the terms \"ingress/egress\". It's also worth noting that in my land transfer documents, it clearly states that \"no structure shall be constructed within six foot on any side yard lot line\". Does an easement override these types of statements? At this point, my main questions are: - How can I be absolutely certain of what is currently allowed on my land? Should I wait for him to get all the permits and surveys which will certainly be required? - If the driveway is built, am I entitled to compensation from my title insurance, since we had no knowledge of this supposed easement? Is it worth lawyering up? This driveway will totally downgrade the complexion and value of our otherwise lovely property. Can anyone PLEASE offer any advice or leads for us to investigate his legal right to construct this driveway. I know it's not technically on me to do the investigating but we want to do anything we can to stop this before it gets too far. Thanks!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Doing your own research is good. But perhaps you should also send a certified letter demanding that Future Neighbor produce some proof that the easement exists. In your letter, state that you believe it doesn't exist and you have no intention of granting it either.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Future neighbor plans to build long, paved driveway through my yard, claiming there's an easement, of which I had no knowledge. What recourse do I have? I live in Pennsylvania. Here's my obligatory Paint depiction of easement! Some background: We bought our home one year ago in a beautiful suburban neighborhood. Our neighborhood in PA was built ~30 years ago when the original farmhome (the property behind us) sold off the surrounding acres. Since then, the original farmhouse owners have sold this home a few times. This farmhouse property is behind our home, so we're located along their property line, divided by trees. This brings me to a few days ago, when I found 2 men examining the grassy yard space between me and my next-door neighbor. One guy introduces himself and says he is the future owner of the farm home behind me, tells me that there is an easement next to my home and that he plans to build a second paved driveway where this easement is, so that he has better access to his home (the other guy with him was the driveway company guy). So this LONG paved driveway would go from our curb (public road), between my home and my next door neighbors', and then back about 300 yards to his secluded farmhome. We were caught off guard by this since there's no mention of this easement in our deed and even the previous sellers did not disclose any knowledge of an easement. We are trying to get answers from our real estate agent and title company in regard to that. Since then, I've spoken with older neighbors, who could swear that easement is no longer there, that it was forfeited or altered after my house was built in 1982. I have spent hours at my county and township offices, searching for plans and documents. After playing Davinci Code, I did find evidence (map and deed from 1977 and 81) of there being a proposed easement on my land for ingress and egress and utility, which is the same paperwork the future owner has left in my mailbox. There is no mention that a driveway is or is not allowed to be constructed, but I've been told it is implied to be allowed in the terms \"ingress/egress\". It's also worth noting that in my land transfer documents, it clearly states that \"no structure shall be constructed within six foot on any side yard lot line\". Does an easement override these types of statements? At this point, my main questions are: - How can I be absolutely certain of what is currently allowed on my land? Should I wait for him to get all the permits and surveys which will certainly be required? - If the driveway is built, am I entitled to compensation from my title insurance, since we had no knowledge of this supposed easement? Is it worth lawyering up? This driveway will totally downgrade the complexion and value of our otherwise lovely property. Can anyone PLEASE offer any advice or leads for us to investigate his legal right to construct this driveway. I know it's not technically on me to do the investigating but we want to do anything we can to stop this before it gets too far. Thanks!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Contact your title insurance company. They should cover any claims of an easement going through the property.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Future neighbor plans to build long, paved driveway through my yard, claiming there's an easement, of which I had no knowledge. What recourse do I have? I live in Pennsylvania. Here's my obligatory Paint depiction of easement! Some background: We bought our home one year ago in a beautiful suburban neighborhood. Our neighborhood in PA was built ~30 years ago when the original farmhome (the property behind us) sold off the surrounding acres. Since then, the original farmhouse owners have sold this home a few times. This farmhouse property is behind our home, so we're located along their property line, divided by trees. This brings me to a few days ago, when I found 2 men examining the grassy yard space between me and my next-door neighbor. One guy introduces himself and says he is the future owner of the farm home behind me, tells me that there is an easement next to my home and that he plans to build a second paved driveway where this easement is, so that he has better access to his home (the other guy with him was the driveway company guy). So this LONG paved driveway would go from our curb (public road), between my home and my next door neighbors', and then back about 300 yards to his secluded farmhome. We were caught off guard by this since there's no mention of this easement in our deed and even the previous sellers did not disclose any knowledge of an easement. We are trying to get answers from our real estate agent and title company in regard to that. Since then, I've spoken with older neighbors, who could swear that easement is no longer there, that it was forfeited or altered after my house was built in 1982. I have spent hours at my county and township offices, searching for plans and documents. After playing Davinci Code, I did find evidence (map and deed from 1977 and 81) of there being a proposed easement on my land for ingress and egress and utility, which is the same paperwork the future owner has left in my mailbox. There is no mention that a driveway is or is not allowed to be constructed, but I've been told it is implied to be allowed in the terms \"ingress/egress\". It's also worth noting that in my land transfer documents, it clearly states that \"no structure shall be constructed within six foot on any side yard lot line\". Does an easement override these types of statements? At this point, my main questions are: - How can I be absolutely certain of what is currently allowed on my land? Should I wait for him to get all the permits and surveys which will certainly be required? - If the driveway is built, am I entitled to compensation from my title insurance, since we had no knowledge of this supposed easement? Is it worth lawyering up? This driveway will totally downgrade the complexion and value of our otherwise lovely property. Can anyone PLEASE offer any advice or leads for us to investigate his legal right to construct this driveway. I know it's not technically on me to do the investigating but we want to do anything we can to stop this before it gets too far. Thanks!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Get an attorney to draft a letter to your neighbor that addressees the easement. Call his bluff that there is an easement.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Future neighbor plans to build long, paved driveway through my yard, claiming there's an easement, of which I had no knowledge. What recourse do I have? I live in Pennsylvania. Here's my obligatory Paint depiction of easement! Some background: We bought our home one year ago in a beautiful suburban neighborhood. Our neighborhood in PA was built ~30 years ago when the original farmhome (the property behind us) sold off the surrounding acres. Since then, the original farmhouse owners have sold this home a few times. This farmhouse property is behind our home, so we're located along their property line, divided by trees. This brings me to a few days ago, when I found 2 men examining the grassy yard space between me and my next-door neighbor. One guy introduces himself and says he is the future owner of the farm home behind me, tells me that there is an easement next to my home and that he plans to build a second paved driveway where this easement is, so that he has better access to his home (the other guy with him was the driveway company guy). So this LONG paved driveway would go from our curb (public road), between my home and my next door neighbors', and then back about 300 yards to his secluded farmhome. We were caught off guard by this since there's no mention of this easement in our deed and even the previous sellers did not disclose any knowledge of an easement. We are trying to get answers from our real estate agent and title company in regard to that. Since then, I've spoken with older neighbors, who could swear that easement is no longer there, that it was forfeited or altered after my house was built in 1982. I have spent hours at my county and township offices, searching for plans and documents. After playing Davinci Code, I did find evidence (map and deed from 1977 and 81) of there being a proposed easement on my land for ingress and egress and utility, which is the same paperwork the future owner has left in my mailbox. There is no mention that a driveway is or is not allowed to be constructed, but I've been told it is implied to be allowed in the terms \"ingress/egress\". It's also worth noting that in my land transfer documents, it clearly states that \"no structure shall be constructed within six foot on any side yard lot line\". Does an easement override these types of statements? At this point, my main questions are: - How can I be absolutely certain of what is currently allowed on my land? Should I wait for him to get all the permits and surveys which will certainly be required? - If the driveway is built, am I entitled to compensation from my title insurance, since we had no knowledge of this supposed easement? Is it worth lawyering up? This driveway will totally downgrade the complexion and value of our otherwise lovely property. Can anyone PLEASE offer any advice or leads for us to investigate his legal right to construct this driveway. I know it's not technically on me to do the investigating but we want to do anything we can to stop this before it gets too far. Thanks!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "This is absolutely the right time to get an attorney involved. A few hundred dollars investment now could save you a major headache later down the line.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Future neighbor plans to build long, paved driveway through my yard, claiming there's an easement, of which I had no knowledge. What recourse do I have? I live in Pennsylvania. Here's my obligatory Paint depiction of easement! Some background: We bought our home one year ago in a beautiful suburban neighborhood. Our neighborhood in PA was built ~30 years ago when the original farmhome (the property behind us) sold off the surrounding acres. Since then, the original farmhouse owners have sold this home a few times. This farmhouse property is behind our home, so we're located along their property line, divided by trees. This brings me to a few days ago, when I found 2 men examining the grassy yard space between me and my next-door neighbor. One guy introduces himself and says he is the future owner of the farm home behind me, tells me that there is an easement next to my home and that he plans to build a second paved driveway where this easement is, so that he has better access to his home (the other guy with him was the driveway company guy). So this LONG paved driveway would go from our curb (public road), between my home and my next door neighbors', and then back about 300 yards to his secluded farmhome. We were caught off guard by this since there's no mention of this easement in our deed and even the previous sellers did not disclose any knowledge of an easement. We are trying to get answers from our real estate agent and title company in regard to that. Since then, I've spoken with older neighbors, who could swear that easement is no longer there, that it was forfeited or altered after my house was built in 1982. I have spent hours at my county and township offices, searching for plans and documents. After playing Davinci Code, I did find evidence (map and deed from 1977 and 81) of there being a proposed easement on my land for ingress and egress and utility, which is the same paperwork the future owner has left in my mailbox. There is no mention that a driveway is or is not allowed to be constructed, but I've been told it is implied to be allowed in the terms \"ingress/egress\". It's also worth noting that in my land transfer documents, it clearly states that \"no structure shall be constructed within six foot on any side yard lot line\". Does an easement override these types of statements? At this point, my main questions are: - How can I be absolutely certain of what is currently allowed on my land? Should I wait for him to get all the permits and surveys which will certainly be required? - If the driveway is built, am I entitled to compensation from my title insurance, since we had no knowledge of this supposed easement? Is it worth lawyering up? This driveway will totally downgrade the complexion and value of our otherwise lovely property. Can anyone PLEASE offer any advice or leads for us to investigate his legal right to construct this driveway. I know it's not technically on me to do the investigating but we want to do anything we can to stop this before it gets too far. Thanks!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Get an attorney to draft a letter to your neighbor that addressees the easement. Call his bluff that there is an easement.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Future neighbor plans to build long, paved driveway through my yard, claiming there's an easement, of which I had no knowledge. What recourse do I have? I live in Pennsylvania. Here's my obligatory Paint depiction of easement! Some background: We bought our home one year ago in a beautiful suburban neighborhood. Our neighborhood in PA was built ~30 years ago when the original farmhome (the property behind us) sold off the surrounding acres. Since then, the original farmhouse owners have sold this home a few times. This farmhouse property is behind our home, so we're located along their property line, divided by trees. This brings me to a few days ago, when I found 2 men examining the grassy yard space between me and my next-door neighbor. One guy introduces himself and says he is the future owner of the farm home behind me, tells me that there is an easement next to my home and that he plans to build a second paved driveway where this easement is, so that he has better access to his home (the other guy with him was the driveway company guy). So this LONG paved driveway would go from our curb (public road), between my home and my next door neighbors', and then back about 300 yards to his secluded farmhome. We were caught off guard by this since there's no mention of this easement in our deed and even the previous sellers did not disclose any knowledge of an easement. We are trying to get answers from our real estate agent and title company in regard to that. Since then, I've spoken with older neighbors, who could swear that easement is no longer there, that it was forfeited or altered after my house was built in 1982. I have spent hours at my county and township offices, searching for plans and documents. After playing Davinci Code, I did find evidence (map and deed from 1977 and 81) of there being a proposed easement on my land for ingress and egress and utility, which is the same paperwork the future owner has left in my mailbox. There is no mention that a driveway is or is not allowed to be constructed, but I've been told it is implied to be allowed in the terms \"ingress/egress\". It's also worth noting that in my land transfer documents, it clearly states that \"no structure shall be constructed within six foot on any side yard lot line\". Does an easement override these types of statements? At this point, my main questions are: - How can I be absolutely certain of what is currently allowed on my land? Should I wait for him to get all the permits and surveys which will certainly be required? - If the driveway is built, am I entitled to compensation from my title insurance, since we had no knowledge of this supposed easement? Is it worth lawyering up? This driveway will totally downgrade the complexion and value of our otherwise lovely property. Can anyone PLEASE offer any advice or leads for us to investigate his legal right to construct this driveway. I know it's not technically on me to do the investigating but we want to do anything we can to stop this before it gets too far. Thanks!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "is there any way you can put up signs in the intended area or contact that driveway company that you do not give permission for any work to done on the property until it has been properly investigated from your side. i would hate to wake up one morning or come home from work or something and half those trees have been cut down or a big trench for drainage fill. god forbid the actual fucking driveway. some notification that, at the very least, you can use against them should they start the work. ...and really, *this* is the way he chooses to broach the subject, no discussion, just go ahead with the project and see if anybody says anything. not even a knock on your door and 'hey, i would really like access to my property from this side, i believe i have the right anyway but would you mind taking a minute with me and working out a way that we can both agree to'. these are your neighbours, you don't have to like them but you do have to live beside them, how much effort does it really take. nope, i have a dubious piece of paper that says i don't technically need your approval so idgaf.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Future neighbor plans to build long, paved driveway through my yard, claiming there's an easement, of which I had no knowledge. What recourse do I have? I live in Pennsylvania. Here's my obligatory Paint depiction of easement! Some background: We bought our home one year ago in a beautiful suburban neighborhood. Our neighborhood in PA was built ~30 years ago when the original farmhome (the property behind us) sold off the surrounding acres. Since then, the original farmhouse owners have sold this home a few times. This farmhouse property is behind our home, so we're located along their property line, divided by trees. This brings me to a few days ago, when I found 2 men examining the grassy yard space between me and my next-door neighbor. One guy introduces himself and says he is the future owner of the farm home behind me, tells me that there is an easement next to my home and that he plans to build a second paved driveway where this easement is, so that he has better access to his home (the other guy with him was the driveway company guy). So this LONG paved driveway would go from our curb (public road), between my home and my next door neighbors', and then back about 300 yards to his secluded farmhome. We were caught off guard by this since there's no mention of this easement in our deed and even the previous sellers did not disclose any knowledge of an easement. We are trying to get answers from our real estate agent and title company in regard to that. Since then, I've spoken with older neighbors, who could swear that easement is no longer there, that it was forfeited or altered after my house was built in 1982. I have spent hours at my county and township offices, searching for plans and documents. After playing Davinci Code, I did find evidence (map and deed from 1977 and 81) of there being a proposed easement on my land for ingress and egress and utility, which is the same paperwork the future owner has left in my mailbox. There is no mention that a driveway is or is not allowed to be constructed, but I've been told it is implied to be allowed in the terms \"ingress/egress\". It's also worth noting that in my land transfer documents, it clearly states that \"no structure shall be constructed within six foot on any side yard lot line\". Does an easement override these types of statements? At this point, my main questions are: - How can I be absolutely certain of what is currently allowed on my land? Should I wait for him to get all the permits and surveys which will certainly be required? - If the driveway is built, am I entitled to compensation from my title insurance, since we had no knowledge of this supposed easement? Is it worth lawyering up? This driveway will totally downgrade the complexion and value of our otherwise lovely property. Can anyone PLEASE offer any advice or leads for us to investigate his legal right to construct this driveway. I know it's not technically on me to do the investigating but we want to do anything we can to stop this before it gets too far. Thanks!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Is the only paperwork you and your neighbor have found something that says there's a *proposed* easement? There's a chance it's legal jargon, but a \"proposal\" doesn't sound very authoritative to me.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Future neighbor plans to build long, paved driveway through my yard, claiming there's an easement, of which I had no knowledge. What recourse do I have? I live in Pennsylvania. Here's my obligatory Paint depiction of easement! Some background: We bought our home one year ago in a beautiful suburban neighborhood. Our neighborhood in PA was built ~30 years ago when the original farmhome (the property behind us) sold off the surrounding acres. Since then, the original farmhouse owners have sold this home a few times. This farmhouse property is behind our home, so we're located along their property line, divided by trees. This brings me to a few days ago, when I found 2 men examining the grassy yard space between me and my next-door neighbor. One guy introduces himself and says he is the future owner of the farm home behind me, tells me that there is an easement next to my home and that he plans to build a second paved driveway where this easement is, so that he has better access to his home (the other guy with him was the driveway company guy). So this LONG paved driveway would go from our curb (public road), between my home and my next door neighbors', and then back about 300 yards to his secluded farmhome. We were caught off guard by this since there's no mention of this easement in our deed and even the previous sellers did not disclose any knowledge of an easement. We are trying to get answers from our real estate agent and title company in regard to that. Since then, I've spoken with older neighbors, who could swear that easement is no longer there, that it was forfeited or altered after my house was built in 1982. I have spent hours at my county and township offices, searching for plans and documents. After playing Davinci Code, I did find evidence (map and deed from 1977 and 81) of there being a proposed easement on my land for ingress and egress and utility, which is the same paperwork the future owner has left in my mailbox. There is no mention that a driveway is or is not allowed to be constructed, but I've been told it is implied to be allowed in the terms \"ingress/egress\". It's also worth noting that in my land transfer documents, it clearly states that \"no structure shall be constructed within six foot on any side yard lot line\". Does an easement override these types of statements? At this point, my main questions are: - How can I be absolutely certain of what is currently allowed on my land? Should I wait for him to get all the permits and surveys which will certainly be required? - If the driveway is built, am I entitled to compensation from my title insurance, since we had no knowledge of this supposed easement? Is it worth lawyering up? This driveway will totally downgrade the complexion and value of our otherwise lovely property. Can anyone PLEASE offer any advice or leads for us to investigate his legal right to construct this driveway. I know it's not technically on me to do the investigating but we want to do anything we can to stop this before it gets too far. Thanks!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "is there any way you can put up signs in the intended area or contact that driveway company that you do not give permission for any work to done on the property until it has been properly investigated from your side. i would hate to wake up one morning or come home from work or something and half those trees have been cut down or a big trench for drainage fill. god forbid the actual fucking driveway. some notification that, at the very least, you can use against them should they start the work. ...and really, *this* is the way he chooses to broach the subject, no discussion, just go ahead with the project and see if anybody says anything. not even a knock on your door and 'hey, i would really like access to my property from this side, i believe i have the right anyway but would you mind taking a minute with me and working out a way that we can both agree to'. these are your neighbours, you don't have to like them but you do have to live beside them, how much effort does it really take. nope, i have a dubious piece of paper that says i don't technically need your approval so idgaf.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "What issues could I incur if I block my neighbors easement through my property? (PA) Location: Pennsylvania We have small gravel road on the back of our property which we recently purchased a year ago. This gravel road goes to a bridge over a creek and then back to a gravel road. This is our property but our neighbors have an easement written in the dead and it's very vague. I've recently contacted a Real Estate attorney but wanted some other opinions. Our neighbors have recently built a gravel driveway on the other side of their 5 acre property. In the past the easement was used for Ingress and egress but now isn't required because they have other access to a paved road. Occasionally the neighbors will use the easement and we can't seem to understand why. It shaves off maybe 30 seconds of any type of commute. The bridge is VERY questionable and believe me when I say, you would not be comfortable driving across it in a vehicle. It shakes and bounces when simply walking across it. I offered to buyout/terminate the easement as my neighbors are moving and are about to put up their home and property for sale. He rejected my offer and said it \"will decrease the home value.\" Plain and simple I don't want them driving through our backyard. It's unnecessary and annoying. The attorney I spoke to said he's seen people in the past dump a truckload of dirt to block easement in situations such as this. The other land owners would have to deal with the township or attorneys to get it resolved and a lot of time it will help make the problem go away. My question is, if I were to dump a few truck loads of dirt on the gravel road and block the easement, what potential issues could I be looking at? The neighbors leaving are grumpy senior aged people who are about to sell their home. They actually already purchased a new place. Any advice would be appreciated. I tried being nice. I tried offering money. Now they're just being rude not to mention driving across a questionable bridge that is located on our property. If I'm going to do this, it's going to happen before they sell.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "It depends on the kind of easement. the Pennsylvania supreme Court has found there to be no reason that an easement in Gross cannot be passed along with the property. If it's an easement in appurtennant it can be blocked by you during the sale because a new one has to be created. that I could find if it is an easement in Gross there isn't much you can do about it. Also I don't think it's a very good idea to block a legal easement. I'm not your lawyer this isn't legal advice but I do live out in the country in PA and deal with this.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "What issues could I incur if I block my neighbors easement through my property? (PA) Location: Pennsylvania We have small gravel road on the back of our property which we recently purchased a year ago. This gravel road goes to a bridge over a creek and then back to a gravel road. This is our property but our neighbors have an easement written in the dead and it's very vague. I've recently contacted a Real Estate attorney but wanted some other opinions. Our neighbors have recently built a gravel driveway on the other side of their 5 acre property. In the past the easement was used for Ingress and egress but now isn't required because they have other access to a paved road. Occasionally the neighbors will use the easement and we can't seem to understand why. It shaves off maybe 30 seconds of any type of commute. The bridge is VERY questionable and believe me when I say, you would not be comfortable driving across it in a vehicle. It shakes and bounces when simply walking across it. I offered to buyout/terminate the easement as my neighbors are moving and are about to put up their home and property for sale. He rejected my offer and said it \"will decrease the home value.\" Plain and simple I don't want them driving through our backyard. It's unnecessary and annoying. The attorney I spoke to said he's seen people in the past dump a truckload of dirt to block easement in situations such as this. The other land owners would have to deal with the township or attorneys to get it resolved and a lot of time it will help make the problem go away. My question is, if I were to dump a few truck loads of dirt on the gravel road and block the easement, what potential issues could I be looking at? The neighbors leaving are grumpy senior aged people who are about to sell their home. They actually already purchased a new place. Any advice would be appreciated. I tried being nice. I tried offering money. Now they're just being rude not to mention driving across a questionable bridge that is located on our property. If I'm going to do this, it's going to happen before they sell.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "I am not a lawyer and I can not give you any expert legal advice. Nobody in this sub will be able to give you better advice than your own lawyer. This is not legal advice so hopefully I don't run afoul of the rules for this. What I would consider looking in to, and discuss with my attorney, is that the bridge is unsafe. I don't know who would be responsible for the cost of replacing it if say an Engineer deemed it to be unstable. If it's a cost that would be split between you and the other party, or better yet by the other party alone, then you can use that to approach them again asking how they'd like to take care of paying for their portion of the replacement cost in the name of safety while once again offering to buy them out instead.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "[OH] Mother purchased a house, no easements were presented during the closing except the usual Utilities. Three years later neighbor provides legal documentation for a DRIVEWAY EASEMENT signed by both lot's previous owners. First off, if it's not clear. We do not agree with the \"easement\" and the neighbor is nasty and we want nothing to do with him. So as stated in the title, mother was not told about any easements outside of utilities during signing/closing. Neighbors were getting annoyed that we park in the driveway, our driveway, and eventually provided a court document signed by both previous owners and notarized. The house is the type of place where you get 99 year leases for like $1. And the community actually owns the land, but she own the house. We checked and the community housing authorities have no easements on record. The access of the easement is pretty straightforward, \"joint driveway,\" but there is no termination date. It states: \"This easement shall be binding upon heirs, executors, administrators, agents or assigns of the parties hereto and shall run with the land.\" So both current owners have no relation to the previous owners. So how would she fit into one of those mentioned, heir/exec/admin/etc. Note: The parties on the document have no relationship to the community housing authorities. and that authority is not representated on the document. Would this be binding? Thank you.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Your neighbor and former owner should have used a real estate attorney when they entered into this agreement. The attorney would have informed them that this needed to be recorded with the local registry of deeds (or whatever is called in your area) in order to be legitimate. You should retain a real estate attorney to deal with this. I suspect it will be pretty straightforward for the court to decide the agreement is not valid if it was never recorded.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[OH] Mother purchased a house, no easements were presented during the closing except the usual Utilities. Three years later neighbor provides legal documentation for a DRIVEWAY EASEMENT signed by both lot's previous owners. First off, if it's not clear. We do not agree with the \"easement\" and the neighbor is nasty and we want nothing to do with him. So as stated in the title, mother was not told about any easements outside of utilities during signing/closing. Neighbors were getting annoyed that we park in the driveway, our driveway, and eventually provided a court document signed by both previous owners and notarized. The house is the type of place where you get 99 year leases for like $1. And the community actually owns the land, but she own the house. We checked and the community housing authorities have no easements on record. The access of the easement is pretty straightforward, \"joint driveway,\" but there is no termination date. It states: \"This easement shall be binding upon heirs, executors, administrators, agents or assigns of the parties hereto and shall run with the land.\" So both current owners have no relation to the previous owners. So how would she fit into one of those mentioned, heir/exec/admin/etc. Note: The parties on the document have no relationship to the community housing authorities. and that authority is not representated on the document. Would this be binding? Thank you.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Was that paper filed in court and approved by a judge??? Did they properly get the easement registered on the deed and plat? If not then it means nothing. They could not even file it now since the person that signed is no longer an owner. 1st step ask them for a copy of the document and pay a lawyer to review and verify that it is a real document. If they refuse to give you a copy or let you take a picture of it then it is most likely fake. Also, if the previous tenants were just leasing and not owners, then they cant legally sign a deal for an easement so the document cant be real. Again get a copy and pay a lawyer to review it.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "[OH] Mother purchased a house, no easements were presented during the closing except the usual Utilities. Three years later neighbor provides legal documentation for a DRIVEWAY EASEMENT signed by both lot's previous owners. First off, if it's not clear. We do not agree with the \"easement\" and the neighbor is nasty and we want nothing to do with him. So as stated in the title, mother was not told about any easements outside of utilities during signing/closing. Neighbors were getting annoyed that we park in the driveway, our driveway, and eventually provided a court document signed by both previous owners and notarized. The house is the type of place where you get 99 year leases for like $1. And the community actually owns the land, but she own the house. We checked and the community housing authorities have no easements on record. The access of the easement is pretty straightforward, \"joint driveway,\" but there is no termination date. It states: \"This easement shall be binding upon heirs, executors, administrators, agents or assigns of the parties hereto and shall run with the land.\" So both current owners have no relation to the previous owners. So how would she fit into one of those mentioned, heir/exec/admin/etc. Note: The parties on the document have no relationship to the community housing authorities. and that authority is not representated on the document. Would this be binding? Thank you.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "You need to get a lawyer asap. Did you get title insurance? If so contact them. If not, look for a real estate attorney via your state's bar website.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[OH] Mother purchased a house, no easements were presented during the closing except the usual Utilities. Three years later neighbor provides legal documentation for a DRIVEWAY EASEMENT signed by both lot's previous owners. First off, if it's not clear. We do not agree with the \"easement\" and the neighbor is nasty and we want nothing to do with him. So as stated in the title, mother was not told about any easements outside of utilities during signing/closing. Neighbors were getting annoyed that we park in the driveway, our driveway, and eventually provided a court document signed by both previous owners and notarized. The house is the type of place where you get 99 year leases for like $1. And the community actually owns the land, but she own the house. We checked and the community housing authorities have no easements on record. The access of the easement is pretty straightforward, \"joint driveway,\" but there is no termination date. It states: \"This easement shall be binding upon heirs, executors, administrators, agents or assigns of the parties hereto and shall run with the land.\" So both current owners have no relation to the previous owners. So how would she fit into one of those mentioned, heir/exec/admin/etc. Note: The parties on the document have no relationship to the community housing authorities. and that authority is not representated on the document. Would this be binding? Thank you.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Was that paper filed in court and approved by a judge??? Did they properly get the easement registered on the deed and plat? If not then it means nothing. They could not even file it now since the person that signed is no longer an owner. 1st step ask them for a copy of the document and pay a lawyer to review and verify that it is a real document. If they refuse to give you a copy or let you take a picture of it then it is most likely fake. Also, if the previous tenants were just leasing and not owners, then they cant legally sign a deal for an easement so the document cant be real. Again get a copy and pay a lawyer to review it.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Friend of mine was arrested for DUI while sober, if he can’t afford an attorney is he screwed? My friend was driving last night and arrested for DUI even though he blew a 0 on the officers breathalyzer and at the station. The cop thought he was under the influence of drugs so he had to go to the hospital for a blood test, then was booked and released. He never does drugs not even weed so I know the blood will be negative. The problem is every lawyer in the area is charging thousands of dollars to represent, and my friend doesn’t even have a penny in his savings, in fact he’s in tons of debt. If he can’t afford an attorney does this mean he’ll automatically be found guilty, even though all the test results show he’s negative ?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Assuming this happened in the US: If he is charged with a crime and cannot afford a private lawyer, a public defender will be assigned to him at no cost. So he will have representation. Have him tell the lawyer everything and listen to their advice.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Friend of mine was arrested for DUI while sober, if he can’t afford an attorney is he screwed? My friend was driving last night and arrested for DUI even though he blew a 0 on the officers breathalyzer and at the station. The cop thought he was under the influence of drugs so he had to go to the hospital for a blood test, then was booked and released. He never does drugs not even weed so I know the blood will be negative. The problem is every lawyer in the area is charging thousands of dollars to represent, and my friend doesn’t even have a penny in his savings, in fact he’s in tons of debt. If he can’t afford an attorney does this mean he’ll automatically be found guilty, even though all the test results show he’s negative ?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Cops arresting for DUI is not the same thing as being charged with a DUI in a criminal court case. A prosecutor needs to review the evidence and decide whether to file charges. I am a prosecutor. I sometimes will file a DUI without the lab test results back yet, but it has to be a very solid DUI that I 100% expect a positive lab result in. More often, I will wait for the labs to come back. If the labs don't show anything, I would not charge a DUI. (Edit to add: if I file on a case and the labs come back clean, I dismiss that case.) IF your friend is actually charged with a crime in court, he needs to get a public defender. They are perfectly competent attorneys. Your friend should also be aware that (depending on your state's DUI laws), you can get a DUI for driving under the influence of legal drugs. In some states, it doesn't even have to be prescription or a controlled substance; you can get a DUI on Benadryl. In others, it has to be a controlled substance.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "I was served with papers accusing me of not paying child support for the 11 year old I fathered. I'm 19 and a woman. That's not a typo in the title of my post. I am a woman who is being accused of not paying child support for the child I **fathered**. The child is 11, I am 19. It's not a scam because I phoned the courthouse and they actually have a file for the case. I told them it was a mistake but no one there would listen. My first name is definitely not a man’s name (Abigail) and my last name is not common at all. I checked my bank account and my credit but my identity was not stolen or compromised as far as anyone could tell. I don’t have money for a lawyer. Is there any way I can get this fixed on my own now or do I have to wait until it goes to court and I see the judge? The location is Florida. Sorry if my question seems obvious, I don’t really know anything about court or family law stuff.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "See here: also a woman being sued for fathering a child, odd that. I'll paraphrase what I suggested to her. You may, be able to get out of this without needing a lawyer. I assume that the woman asking for child support does have an attorney, if so, send a registered letter to that attorney with a copy of your driver's license and ideally a copy of your birth certificate to show this attorney that not only are you a woman now, but you have always been one. Also call the woman's lawyer on the phone, don't call the court. They don't want to waste time suing the wrong person, but will want to find the correct one. simple proof that you're a lady and always have been should shut this down quickly. You can also file an answer, pro-se. This will require a bit of time on your part, but in essence they have filed a complaint with the court alleging that you're the dad. You file a response, with the court and a copy to the other party, stating that it is impossible. probably they'll drop the suit quickly. good luck.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "I was served with papers accusing me of not paying child support for the 11 year old I fathered. I'm 19 and a woman. That's not a typo in the title of my post. I am a woman who is being accused of not paying child support for the child I **fathered**. The child is 11, I am 19. It's not a scam because I phoned the courthouse and they actually have a file for the case. I told them it was a mistake but no one there would listen. My first name is definitely not a man’s name (Abigail) and my last name is not common at all. I checked my bank account and my credit but my identity was not stolen or compromised as far as anyone could tell. I don’t have money for a lawyer. Is there any way I can get this fixed on my own now or do I have to wait until it goes to court and I see the judge? The location is Florida. Sorry if my question seems obvious, I don’t really know anything about court or family law stuff.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "**Florida lawyer here.** Contact an attorney of your own. I recommend you go to a law school and get a student from the law clinic to do the work. If you're in Miami, try FIU or UM. Florida statute 57.105 can give you relief here. Your attorney will draft a letter to the plaintiff's counsel advising them of the error and that the suit is frivolous. He'll get ten days to voluntarily dismiss the case. If he doesn't, your attorney files your motion for sanctions. Now, if you win, you can get your attorney's fees and costs paid back by the plaintiff's attorney. Do this *today.* Edit: Thanks for the gold!", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "I was served with papers accusing me of not paying child support for the 11 year old I fathered. I'm 19 and a woman. That's not a typo in the title of my post. I am a woman who is being accused of not paying child support for the child I **fathered**. The child is 11, I am 19. It's not a scam because I phoned the courthouse and they actually have a file for the case. I told them it was a mistake but no one there would listen. My first name is definitely not a man’s name (Abigail) and my last name is not common at all. I checked my bank account and my credit but my identity was not stolen or compromised as far as anyone could tell. I don’t have money for a lawyer. Is there any way I can get this fixed on my own now or do I have to wait until it goes to court and I see the judge? The location is Florida. Sorry if my question seems obvious, I don’t really know anything about court or family law stuff.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "This is probably a case of mistaken identity. It happens all of the time. I once accidentally served a woman who had a very similar name to, and the same initials and date of birth as, the guy I was trying to serve. All it takes is a phone call to the correct person to resolve this. If the petitioner is being represented by an attorney, the attorney's name and information will be included in the paperwork you received. Give them the case number and explain you have been incorrectly served. The attorney may ask you to send the paperwork back, or he may instruct you to destroy it. You shouldn't have to do anything more than that.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "I was served with papers accusing me of not paying child support for the 11 year old I fathered. I'm 19 and a woman. That's not a typo in the title of my post. I am a woman who is being accused of not paying child support for the child I **fathered**. The child is 11, I am 19. It's not a scam because I phoned the courthouse and they actually have a file for the case. I told them it was a mistake but no one there would listen. My first name is definitely not a man’s name (Abigail) and my last name is not common at all. I checked my bank account and my credit but my identity was not stolen or compromised as far as anyone could tell. I don’t have money for a lawyer. Is there any way I can get this fixed on my own now or do I have to wait until it goes to court and I see the judge? The location is Florida. Sorry if my question seems obvious, I don’t really know anything about court or family law stuff.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "**Florida lawyer here.** Contact an attorney of your own. I recommend you go to a law school and get a student from the law clinic to do the work. If you're in Miami, try FIU or UM. Florida statute 57.105 can give you relief here. Your attorney will draft a letter to the plaintiff's counsel advising them of the error and that the suit is frivolous. He'll get ten days to voluntarily dismiss the case. If he doesn't, your attorney files your motion for sanctions. Now, if you win, you can get your attorney's fees and costs paid back by the plaintiff's attorney. Do this *today.* Edit: Thanks for the gold!", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "I was served with papers accusing me of not paying child support for the 11 year old I fathered. I'm 19 and a woman. That's not a typo in the title of my post. I am a woman who is being accused of not paying child support for the child I **fathered**. The child is 11, I am 19. It's not a scam because I phoned the courthouse and they actually have a file for the case. I told them it was a mistake but no one there would listen. My first name is definitely not a man’s name (Abigail) and my last name is not common at all. I checked my bank account and my credit but my identity was not stolen or compromised as far as anyone could tell. I don’t have money for a lawyer. Is there any way I can get this fixed on my own now or do I have to wait until it goes to court and I see the judge? The location is Florida. Sorry if my question seems obvious, I don’t really know anything about court or family law stuff.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "You said you've never been to the city the attorney is in. Do you live in the city/county that the lawsuit is filed in? But really, don't worry about this too much. As long as you don't ignore it, you'll be fine. It was some dumb mistake, and most likely the attorney will apologize profusely and alter the lawsuit, and it'll be a funny story you can tell at parties.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "I was served with papers accusing me of not paying child support for the 11 year old I fathered. I'm 19 and a woman. That's not a typo in the title of my post. I am a woman who is being accused of not paying child support for the child I **fathered**. The child is 11, I am 19. It's not a scam because I phoned the courthouse and they actually have a file for the case. I told them it was a mistake but no one there would listen. My first name is definitely not a man’s name (Abigail) and my last name is not common at all. I checked my bank account and my credit but my identity was not stolen or compromised as far as anyone could tell. I don’t have money for a lawyer. Is there any way I can get this fixed on my own now or do I have to wait until it goes to court and I see the judge? The location is Florida. Sorry if my question seems obvious, I don’t really know anything about court or family law stuff.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "**Florida lawyer here.** Contact an attorney of your own. I recommend you go to a law school and get a student from the law clinic to do the work. If you're in Miami, try FIU or UM. Florida statute 57.105 can give you relief here. Your attorney will draft a letter to the plaintiff's counsel advising them of the error and that the suit is frivolous. He'll get ten days to voluntarily dismiss the case. If he doesn't, your attorney files your motion for sanctions. Now, if you win, you can get your attorney's fees and costs paid back by the plaintiff's attorney. Do this *today.* Edit: Thanks for the gold!", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "I was served with papers accusing me of not paying child support for the 11 year old I fathered. I'm 19 and a woman. That's not a typo in the title of my post. I am a woman who is being accused of not paying child support for the child I **fathered**. The child is 11, I am 19. It's not a scam because I phoned the courthouse and they actually have a file for the case. I told them it was a mistake but no one there would listen. My first name is definitely not a man’s name (Abigail) and my last name is not common at all. I checked my bank account and my credit but my identity was not stolen or compromised as far as anyone could tell. I don’t have money for a lawyer. Is there any way I can get this fixed on my own now or do I have to wait until it goes to court and I see the judge? The location is Florida. Sorry if my question seems obvious, I don’t really know anything about court or family law stuff.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Whoa! Two in three days! It must be \"deadbeat mom\" week. (I kid, OP. That other case is a lot like yours. Woman with no children served for child support. In her case, it was mistaken identity; she has a unisex first name.)", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "I was served with papers accusing me of not paying child support for the 11 year old I fathered. I'm 19 and a woman. That's not a typo in the title of my post. I am a woman who is being accused of not paying child support for the child I **fathered**. The child is 11, I am 19. It's not a scam because I phoned the courthouse and they actually have a file for the case. I told them it was a mistake but no one there would listen. My first name is definitely not a man’s name (Abigail) and my last name is not common at all. I checked my bank account and my credit but my identity was not stolen or compromised as far as anyone could tell. I don’t have money for a lawyer. Is there any way I can get this fixed on my own now or do I have to wait until it goes to court and I see the judge? The location is Florida. Sorry if my question seems obvious, I don’t really know anything about court or family law stuff.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "**Florida lawyer here.** Contact an attorney of your own. I recommend you go to a law school and get a student from the law clinic to do the work. If you're in Miami, try FIU or UM. Florida statute 57.105 can give you relief here. Your attorney will draft a letter to the plaintiff's counsel advising them of the error and that the suit is frivolous. He'll get ten days to voluntarily dismiss the case. If he doesn't, your attorney files your motion for sanctions. Now, if you win, you can get your attorney's fees and costs paid back by the plaintiff's attorney. Do this *today.* Edit: Thanks for the gold!", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "I was served with papers accusing me of not paying child support for the 11 year old I fathered. I'm 19 and a woman. That's not a typo in the title of my post. I am a woman who is being accused of not paying child support for the child I **fathered**. The child is 11, I am 19. It's not a scam because I phoned the courthouse and they actually have a file for the case. I told them it was a mistake but no one there would listen. My first name is definitely not a man’s name (Abigail) and my last name is not common at all. I checked my bank account and my credit but my identity was not stolen or compromised as far as anyone could tell. I don’t have money for a lawyer. Is there any way I can get this fixed on my own now or do I have to wait until it goes to court and I see the judge? The location is Florida. Sorry if my question seems obvious, I don’t really know anything about court or family law stuff.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Go to court and explain the situation. You shouldn't need a lawyer.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "I was served with papers accusing me of not paying child support for the 11 year old I fathered. I'm 19 and a woman. That's not a typo in the title of my post. I am a woman who is being accused of not paying child support for the child I **fathered**. The child is 11, I am 19. It's not a scam because I phoned the courthouse and they actually have a file for the case. I told them it was a mistake but no one there would listen. My first name is definitely not a man’s name (Abigail) and my last name is not common at all. I checked my bank account and my credit but my identity was not stolen or compromised as far as anyone could tell. I don’t have money for a lawyer. Is there any way I can get this fixed on my own now or do I have to wait until it goes to court and I see the judge? The location is Florida. Sorry if my question seems obvious, I don’t really know anything about court or family law stuff.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "**Florida lawyer here.** Contact an attorney of your own. I recommend you go to a law school and get a student from the law clinic to do the work. If you're in Miami, try FIU or UM. Florida statute 57.105 can give you relief here. Your attorney will draft a letter to the plaintiff's counsel advising them of the error and that the suit is frivolous. He'll get ten days to voluntarily dismiss the case. If he doesn't, your attorney files your motion for sanctions. Now, if you win, you can get your attorney's fees and costs paid back by the plaintiff's attorney. Do this *today.* Edit: Thanks for the gold!", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Police thought I was evading arrest, I just didn't want to stop car in the middle of nowhere... I'll keep this brief. I was on a highway at 3am on Monday, coming home from my job that runs late into the night. I see a cop following me for a few minutes before he begins flashing the lights at me to pull over. Seeing as it was late, and there was basically no one else around, I didn't feel good about pulling over. I slowed down, put my blinkers on, and called 911. I asked the operator to let the cop know that I'd be pulling into the 24/7 Wal*Mart near my home. She claims she complied. The cop began to tailgate me. It took fifteen minutes for me to get to the Wal*Mart. The cop arrested me for \"Second Degree Police Eluding\". He also suspected I was drunk but I passed my sobriety test. I also got a ticket for \"Reckless Driving\". My court date is around a month from now. I spoke to an attorney, and asked if I could have the operator vouch for me. Apparently, she can't??? So now I have no proof that I *wasn't* evading police. Am I fucked now? If not that, what can I do to prove that I wasn't trying to outrun the cops?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Talk to another attorney; anyone competent should be able to get your 911 call to mitigate damages. But you don't get to pick where to pull over.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Police thought I was evading arrest, I just didn't want to stop car in the middle of nowhere... I'll keep this brief. I was on a highway at 3am on Monday, coming home from my job that runs late into the night. I see a cop following me for a few minutes before he begins flashing the lights at me to pull over. Seeing as it was late, and there was basically no one else around, I didn't feel good about pulling over. I slowed down, put my blinkers on, and called 911. I asked the operator to let the cop know that I'd be pulling into the 24/7 Wal*Mart near my home. She claims she complied. The cop began to tailgate me. It took fifteen minutes for me to get to the Wal*Mart. The cop arrested me for \"Second Degree Police Eluding\". He also suspected I was drunk but I passed my sobriety test. I also got a ticket for \"Reckless Driving\". My court date is around a month from now. I spoke to an attorney, and asked if I could have the operator vouch for me. Apparently, she can't??? So now I have no proof that I *wasn't* evading police. Am I fucked now? If not that, what can I do to prove that I wasn't trying to outrun the cops?", "role": "user" }, { "content": ">I spoke to an attorney, and asked if I could have the operator vouch for me. Apparently, she can't??? I don't see why your attorney cannot get a recording of your 911 call.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Police thought I was evading arrest, I just didn't want to stop car in the middle of nowhere... I'll keep this brief. I was on a highway at 3am on Monday, coming home from my job that runs late into the night. I see a cop following me for a few minutes before he begins flashing the lights at me to pull over. Seeing as it was late, and there was basically no one else around, I didn't feel good about pulling over. I slowed down, put my blinkers on, and called 911. I asked the operator to let the cop know that I'd be pulling into the 24/7 Wal*Mart near my home. She claims she complied. The cop began to tailgate me. It took fifteen minutes for me to get to the Wal*Mart. The cop arrested me for \"Second Degree Police Eluding\". He also suspected I was drunk but I passed my sobriety test. I also got a ticket for \"Reckless Driving\". My court date is around a month from now. I spoke to an attorney, and asked if I could have the operator vouch for me. Apparently, she can't??? So now I have no proof that I *wasn't* evading police. Am I fucked now? If not that, what can I do to prove that I wasn't trying to outrun the cops?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Talk to another attorney; anyone competent should be able to get your 911 call to mitigate damages. But you don't get to pick where to pull over.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Police thought I was evading arrest, I just didn't want to stop car in the middle of nowhere... I'll keep this brief. I was on a highway at 3am on Monday, coming home from my job that runs late into the night. I see a cop following me for a few minutes before he begins flashing the lights at me to pull over. Seeing as it was late, and there was basically no one else around, I didn't feel good about pulling over. I slowed down, put my blinkers on, and called 911. I asked the operator to let the cop know that I'd be pulling into the 24/7 Wal*Mart near my home. She claims she complied. The cop began to tailgate me. It took fifteen minutes for me to get to the Wal*Mart. The cop arrested me for \"Second Degree Police Eluding\". He also suspected I was drunk but I passed my sobriety test. I also got a ticket for \"Reckless Driving\". My court date is around a month from now. I spoke to an attorney, and asked if I could have the operator vouch for me. Apparently, she can't??? So now I have no proof that I *wasn't* evading police. Am I fucked now? If not that, what can I do to prove that I wasn't trying to outrun the cops?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "911 calls are within the scope of discovery that a DA has. Get a new lawyer.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Police thought I was evading arrest, I just didn't want to stop car in the middle of nowhere... I'll keep this brief. I was on a highway at 3am on Monday, coming home from my job that runs late into the night. I see a cop following me for a few minutes before he begins flashing the lights at me to pull over. Seeing as it was late, and there was basically no one else around, I didn't feel good about pulling over. I slowed down, put my blinkers on, and called 911. I asked the operator to let the cop know that I'd be pulling into the 24/7 Wal*Mart near my home. She claims she complied. The cop began to tailgate me. It took fifteen minutes for me to get to the Wal*Mart. The cop arrested me for \"Second Degree Police Eluding\". He also suspected I was drunk but I passed my sobriety test. I also got a ticket for \"Reckless Driving\". My court date is around a month from now. I spoke to an attorney, and asked if I could have the operator vouch for me. Apparently, she can't??? So now I have no proof that I *wasn't* evading police. Am I fucked now? If not that, what can I do to prove that I wasn't trying to outrun the cops?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Talk to another attorney; anyone competent should be able to get your 911 call to mitigate damages. But you don't get to pick where to pull over.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Police thought I was evading arrest, I just didn't want to stop car in the middle of nowhere... I'll keep this brief. I was on a highway at 3am on Monday, coming home from my job that runs late into the night. I see a cop following me for a few minutes before he begins flashing the lights at me to pull over. Seeing as it was late, and there was basically no one else around, I didn't feel good about pulling over. I slowed down, put my blinkers on, and called 911. I asked the operator to let the cop know that I'd be pulling into the 24/7 Wal*Mart near my home. She claims she complied. The cop began to tailgate me. It took fifteen minutes for me to get to the Wal*Mart. The cop arrested me for \"Second Degree Police Eluding\". He also suspected I was drunk but I passed my sobriety test. I also got a ticket for \"Reckless Driving\". My court date is around a month from now. I spoke to an attorney, and asked if I could have the operator vouch for me. Apparently, she can't??? So now I have no proof that I *wasn't* evading police. Am I fucked now? If not that, what can I do to prove that I wasn't trying to outrun the cops?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Did 911 not tell you , \"I'm in contact with the officer , pull over now.\" ?", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Police thought I was evading arrest, I just didn't want to stop car in the middle of nowhere... I'll keep this brief. I was on a highway at 3am on Monday, coming home from my job that runs late into the night. I see a cop following me for a few minutes before he begins flashing the lights at me to pull over. Seeing as it was late, and there was basically no one else around, I didn't feel good about pulling over. I slowed down, put my blinkers on, and called 911. I asked the operator to let the cop know that I'd be pulling into the 24/7 Wal*Mart near my home. She claims she complied. The cop began to tailgate me. It took fifteen minutes for me to get to the Wal*Mart. The cop arrested me for \"Second Degree Police Eluding\". He also suspected I was drunk but I passed my sobriety test. I also got a ticket for \"Reckless Driving\". My court date is around a month from now. I spoke to an attorney, and asked if I could have the operator vouch for me. Apparently, she can't??? So now I have no proof that I *wasn't* evading police. Am I fucked now? If not that, what can I do to prove that I wasn't trying to outrun the cops?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Talk to another attorney; anyone competent should be able to get your 911 call to mitigate damages. But you don't get to pick where to pull over.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Police thought I was evading arrest, I just didn't want to stop car in the middle of nowhere... I'll keep this brief. I was on a highway at 3am on Monday, coming home from my job that runs late into the night. I see a cop following me for a few minutes before he begins flashing the lights at me to pull over. Seeing as it was late, and there was basically no one else around, I didn't feel good about pulling over. I slowed down, put my blinkers on, and called 911. I asked the operator to let the cop know that I'd be pulling into the 24/7 Wal*Mart near my home. She claims she complied. The cop began to tailgate me. It took fifteen minutes for me to get to the Wal*Mart. The cop arrested me for \"Second Degree Police Eluding\". He also suspected I was drunk but I passed my sobriety test. I also got a ticket for \"Reckless Driving\". My court date is around a month from now. I spoke to an attorney, and asked if I could have the operator vouch for me. Apparently, she can't??? So now I have no proof that I *wasn't* evading police. Am I fucked now? If not that, what can I do to prove that I wasn't trying to outrun the cops?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "So, from what I can see 2nd degree eluding is a charge that could result in 5-10 years in prison. You're going to want a criminal defense attorney that specializes in this type of charge.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Police thought I was evading arrest, I just didn't want to stop car in the middle of nowhere... I'll keep this brief. I was on a highway at 3am on Monday, coming home from my job that runs late into the night. I see a cop following me for a few minutes before he begins flashing the lights at me to pull over. Seeing as it was late, and there was basically no one else around, I didn't feel good about pulling over. I slowed down, put my blinkers on, and called 911. I asked the operator to let the cop know that I'd be pulling into the 24/7 Wal*Mart near my home. She claims she complied. The cop began to tailgate me. It took fifteen minutes for me to get to the Wal*Mart. The cop arrested me for \"Second Degree Police Eluding\". He also suspected I was drunk but I passed my sobriety test. I also got a ticket for \"Reckless Driving\". My court date is around a month from now. I spoke to an attorney, and asked if I could have the operator vouch for me. Apparently, she can't??? So now I have no proof that I *wasn't* evading police. Am I fucked now? If not that, what can I do to prove that I wasn't trying to outrun the cops?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "FYI, there was a murder in the 90s where I'm from (Delaware County, PA - on route 476), a woman was pulled over in the middle of the night by a fake police officer (he had a light kit). I learned to drive in the 90s and my mom told me never to pull over in an area that was not well-lit or preferably staffed, like a gas station. Idk if it helps to learn this but I believe you had a right to do what you did.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Police thought I was evading arrest, I just didn't want to stop car in the middle of nowhere... I'll keep this brief. I was on a highway at 3am on Monday, coming home from my job that runs late into the night. I see a cop following me for a few minutes before he begins flashing the lights at me to pull over. Seeing as it was late, and there was basically no one else around, I didn't feel good about pulling over. I slowed down, put my blinkers on, and called 911. I asked the operator to let the cop know that I'd be pulling into the 24/7 Wal*Mart near my home. She claims she complied. The cop began to tailgate me. It took fifteen minutes for me to get to the Wal*Mart. The cop arrested me for \"Second Degree Police Eluding\". He also suspected I was drunk but I passed my sobriety test. I also got a ticket for \"Reckless Driving\". My court date is around a month from now. I spoke to an attorney, and asked if I could have the operator vouch for me. Apparently, she can't??? So now I have no proof that I *wasn't* evading police. Am I fucked now? If not that, what can I do to prove that I wasn't trying to outrun the cops?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "A couple minutes to drive far enough to get past the part where there's a scary-ass 200 foot shear cliff beside the shoulder makes sense. Fifteen minutes to drive to the place of your choosing? Er, no, that's just dumb. You're required to pull over, you can't negotiate the conditions of said pullover-age.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "HELP! Car dealership wants me to return car immediately. Do I have to return it as soon as they're saying or is there a way to work around this? I'm a college student and I leased a car on September 3rd. I signed the contract, submitted all of my paperwork, and walked off the lot with the car the same day. Everything's fine until September 15th when I start receiving text messages about the lender having trouble getting in contact with my employers. There's a mix up with my paystubs and the amount I listed on my loan application and they need to verify my employment. After days of back and forth communication, I hear nothing for a few days. They messaged me on Thursday asking for my bank statements and I provided my last three bank statements for them. Yesterday, I woke up to them blowing up my phone because their boss is upset and wants this taken care of ASAP. They tell me that the paystubs aren't adding up but that if they resubmit everything with the correct information, everything will be fine. The missing amount from my paystubs is on my September bank statement (which hasn't been released yet) as it posted on September 1st to the bank and not August 31st. Despite that, I have screenshots of the deposited amount in my account on the 31st. Bank is no help so I send over the screenshot but that's not enough. After more back and forth, he ups the down payment amount to $2,300 (it was originally $1,200) and tells me that they need at least $800 today or tomorrow (Saturday or Sunday) or they're taking the car. After more back and forth, he says that if I can get a cosigner, everything will be alright. So I get my mom to cosign but it only brings the total down $300. He blows up my phone and says that his boss is asking when I can bring the car back, despite that not being the original condition. I told him that I get paid on the 28th and that I don't have the money to give him on such short notice. I told him that a day and a half ago, the tire popped and that I currently only have the spare tire. My school is almost two hours away from the dealership - I got it when I was back home. He tells me that he needs the car back regardless. At first, he tells me to just drive on the highway with a spare tire. When I said that that's an issue of safety, he told me to tow it which would be insanely expensive. Finally, he talked to his boss and said they would cover the tire. However, he demanded that I bring the car back tomorrow while they wait for me to get paid. I'm concerned about the situation and wondering if they can demand me to bring the car back tomorrow. Is there anything I can do to buy more time until I get paid? I fully intend to return the car but on such short notice, I don't have the funds, a way to get back to campus, or a way to get back to the dealership once I get paid to get the car back. I appreciate any help y'all can offer!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Did you put an amount down for your income that isn't correct? If you misrepresented your income then you're probably in the wrong....if you represented everything correctly then maybe they are just trying to get the car back because they messed up somewhere like sold it too cheap or something. Have you put the car in your name, got tags, etc? Have you called the bank to verify if they funded the dealership or not? If not, I would do that. If you misrepresented your income, you need to return the vehicle because nearly all vehicle finance agreements allow them to call in your note for various reasons. If they call in the note then take you to court you'll lose if you lied about your income and it'll screw up your credit and such.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "HELP! Car dealership wants me to return car immediately. Do I have to return it as soon as they're saying or is there a way to work around this? I'm a college student and I leased a car on September 3rd. I signed the contract, submitted all of my paperwork, and walked off the lot with the car the same day. Everything's fine until September 15th when I start receiving text messages about the lender having trouble getting in contact with my employers. There's a mix up with my paystubs and the amount I listed on my loan application and they need to verify my employment. After days of back and forth communication, I hear nothing for a few days. They messaged me on Thursday asking for my bank statements and I provided my last three bank statements for them. Yesterday, I woke up to them blowing up my phone because their boss is upset and wants this taken care of ASAP. They tell me that the paystubs aren't adding up but that if they resubmit everything with the correct information, everything will be fine. The missing amount from my paystubs is on my September bank statement (which hasn't been released yet) as it posted on September 1st to the bank and not August 31st. Despite that, I have screenshots of the deposited amount in my account on the 31st. Bank is no help so I send over the screenshot but that's not enough. After more back and forth, he ups the down payment amount to $2,300 (it was originally $1,200) and tells me that they need at least $800 today or tomorrow (Saturday or Sunday) or they're taking the car. After more back and forth, he says that if I can get a cosigner, everything will be alright. So I get my mom to cosign but it only brings the total down $300. He blows up my phone and says that his boss is asking when I can bring the car back, despite that not being the original condition. I told him that I get paid on the 28th and that I don't have the money to give him on such short notice. I told him that a day and a half ago, the tire popped and that I currently only have the spare tire. My school is almost two hours away from the dealership - I got it when I was back home. He tells me that he needs the car back regardless. At first, he tells me to just drive on the highway with a spare tire. When I said that that's an issue of safety, he told me to tow it which would be insanely expensive. Finally, he talked to his boss and said they would cover the tire. However, he demanded that I bring the car back tomorrow while they wait for me to get paid. I'm concerned about the situation and wondering if they can demand me to bring the car back tomorrow. Is there anything I can do to buy more time until I get paid? I fully intend to return the car but on such short notice, I don't have the funds, a way to get back to campus, or a way to get back to the dealership once I get paid to get the car back. I appreciate any help y'all can offer!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Talk to their General Manager as to what the mistakes were and if you signed all the papers you needed to take delivery. The biggest misconception is they leave 1 or final pieces of paper unhinged and then hit you up 2 weeks later. It's called the take away close. And it's a poor practice. Demand that they get you a better packaged car with lesser apr. I would talk to them before surrending the loan. Chances are their finance department didn't Waco you good enough. So their going to this time around.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Friend cancelled wedding an is being sued by fiance Hello! Would really appreciate some thoughts / guidance here. My friend was supposed to get married at the end of March. She and her fiance had been disagreeing about the wedding and their plans as a married couple for the entire duration of their year-long engagement. When COVID cancelled their (limited, unfinished) wedding plans, he announced they would get married virtually. She asked for more time. They went back and forth about it and he said they would get married on X date or it was over. They did not get married on X date. He then sent her an invoice for wedding and honeymoon related expenses. He included her engagement ring (which she had already returned to him), both of their wedding rings, and his suit, and some other things. The total is \\~12K. She has repaid some of the expenses but he is threatening to sue him for the remaining balance. What is her legal obligation here, and what should she be doing to prepare? Some other miscellaneous notes: * We live in Texas, not sure if there are any state laws that are applicable / we should know about * The amount he invoiced her for is too high for our small claims court right now, but starting in September, the max limit you can sue for in small claims court is increasing and would cover this amount. (Small claims court would be advantageous so we are trying to make sure this gets stalled out so that he doesn't file any lawsuits before then) * He did not include receipts, and the majority of the amounts end in a 0 (ie 30, 120, 2240), which seems like he is estimating (my speculation). * She was not directly involved or listed in many of the transactions. * She is now collecting communication records and other documentation related to the transactions. * Not legally relevant, but we all hated him and felt like he was really pressuring her to get married. Thanks for any guidance!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "She is only liable for any legally binding contract that she has entered into. He may attempt to argue there was an \"oral contract\" where these expenses would be shared, but without proof he will be entirely unable to meet the onus that rests upon the plaintiff in a civil suit. Do not pay a cent of this invoice, as even partial payment can be considered accepting the debt. If he does file an action, then get a lawyer. Until then, refuse to pay anything.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Friend cancelled wedding an is being sued by fiance Hello! Would really appreciate some thoughts / guidance here. My friend was supposed to get married at the end of March. She and her fiance had been disagreeing about the wedding and their plans as a married couple for the entire duration of their year-long engagement. When COVID cancelled their (limited, unfinished) wedding plans, he announced they would get married virtually. She asked for more time. They went back and forth about it and he said they would get married on X date or it was over. They did not get married on X date. He then sent her an invoice for wedding and honeymoon related expenses. He included her engagement ring (which she had already returned to him), both of their wedding rings, and his suit, and some other things. The total is \\~12K. She has repaid some of the expenses but he is threatening to sue him for the remaining balance. What is her legal obligation here, and what should she be doing to prepare? Some other miscellaneous notes: * We live in Texas, not sure if there are any state laws that are applicable / we should know about * The amount he invoiced her for is too high for our small claims court right now, but starting in September, the max limit you can sue for in small claims court is increasing and would cover this amount. (Small claims court would be advantageous so we are trying to make sure this gets stalled out so that he doesn't file any lawsuits before then) * He did not include receipts, and the majority of the amounts end in a 0 (ie 30, 120, 2240), which seems like he is estimating (my speculation). * She was not directly involved or listed in many of the transactions. * She is now collecting communication records and other documentation related to the transactions. * Not legally relevant, but we all hated him and felt like he was really pressuring her to get married. Thanks for any guidance!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Not a lawyer but something that people seem to be overlooking is that she did not technically agree to the second wedding. The wedding she agreed to and was involved with the planning of was cancelled. He gave her an ultimatum about the date of the second wedding and she asked for more time. He was the one to call it off, not her. An argument can be made that she would have gone through with the wedding had he not called it off or set an ultimatum.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Friend cancelled wedding an is being sued by fiance Hello! Would really appreciate some thoughts / guidance here. My friend was supposed to get married at the end of March. She and her fiance had been disagreeing about the wedding and their plans as a married couple for the entire duration of their year-long engagement. When COVID cancelled their (limited, unfinished) wedding plans, he announced they would get married virtually. She asked for more time. They went back and forth about it and he said they would get married on X date or it was over. They did not get married on X date. He then sent her an invoice for wedding and honeymoon related expenses. He included her engagement ring (which she had already returned to him), both of their wedding rings, and his suit, and some other things. The total is \\~12K. She has repaid some of the expenses but he is threatening to sue him for the remaining balance. What is her legal obligation here, and what should she be doing to prepare? Some other miscellaneous notes: * We live in Texas, not sure if there are any state laws that are applicable / we should know about * The amount he invoiced her for is too high for our small claims court right now, but starting in September, the max limit you can sue for in small claims court is increasing and would cover this amount. (Small claims court would be advantageous so we are trying to make sure this gets stalled out so that he doesn't file any lawsuits before then) * He did not include receipts, and the majority of the amounts end in a 0 (ie 30, 120, 2240), which seems like he is estimating (my speculation). * She was not directly involved or listed in many of the transactions. * She is now collecting communication records and other documentation related to the transactions. * Not legally relevant, but we all hated him and felt like he was really pressuring her to get married. Thanks for any guidance!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "She is only liable for any legally binding contract that she has entered into. He may attempt to argue there was an \"oral contract\" where these expenses would be shared, but without proof he will be entirely unable to meet the onus that rests upon the plaintiff in a civil suit. Do not pay a cent of this invoice, as even partial payment can be considered accepting the debt. If he does file an action, then get a lawyer. Until then, refuse to pay anything.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Friend cancelled wedding an is being sued by fiance Hello! Would really appreciate some thoughts / guidance here. My friend was supposed to get married at the end of March. She and her fiance had been disagreeing about the wedding and their plans as a married couple for the entire duration of their year-long engagement. When COVID cancelled their (limited, unfinished) wedding plans, he announced they would get married virtually. She asked for more time. They went back and forth about it and he said they would get married on X date or it was over. They did not get married on X date. He then sent her an invoice for wedding and honeymoon related expenses. He included her engagement ring (which she had already returned to him), both of their wedding rings, and his suit, and some other things. The total is \\~12K. She has repaid some of the expenses but he is threatening to sue him for the remaining balance. What is her legal obligation here, and what should she be doing to prepare? Some other miscellaneous notes: * We live in Texas, not sure if there are any state laws that are applicable / we should know about * The amount he invoiced her for is too high for our small claims court right now, but starting in September, the max limit you can sue for in small claims court is increasing and would cover this amount. (Small claims court would be advantageous so we are trying to make sure this gets stalled out so that he doesn't file any lawsuits before then) * He did not include receipts, and the majority of the amounts end in a 0 (ie 30, 120, 2240), which seems like he is estimating (my speculation). * She was not directly involved or listed in many of the transactions. * She is now collecting communication records and other documentation related to the transactions. * Not legally relevant, but we all hated him and felt like he was really pressuring her to get married. Thanks for any guidance!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Not a lawyer It may be relevant if he set a wedding date that she never agreed to nor agreed to any of the reservations.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Uncle is refusing to return my Mothers car, what can she do? Uncles car got repoed at the beginning of the year. My mother tried to help him out by letting him use her car until he could get back on his feet. Since then he has been acting incredibly disrespectful, rude and entitled. He leaves trash in the car as well as bottles of pee in there. The car constantly smells of bad BO as if he’s living in there not showering for days. On the days they agreed he would drop my mom off to work and pick her up he’s been bailing and not showing up. So she’s been having to use Uber to get to and from work while my Uncle is pretty much using her car like it’s his 24/7. She has asked for her car keys back numerous times and has told him he needs to get his own car now because she has helped him enough. But he’s outright refusing to give it back. She’s basically begging him (ridiculous, I know) to give her back her car and he just won’t. He tells her to continue taking Uber in a nasty rude tone. She no longer wants to help him at this point but seems intimidated by him (although she won’t admit it). She can’t get him to give her back her car willingly. What can she do? Outside of the police can she call a towing company to tow it?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Why doesn’t she just wait until he is sleeping and go get it? Hopefully she has an extra set of keys.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Uncle is refusing to return my Mothers car, what can she do? Uncles car got repoed at the beginning of the year. My mother tried to help him out by letting him use her car until he could get back on his feet. Since then he has been acting incredibly disrespectful, rude and entitled. He leaves trash in the car as well as bottles of pee in there. The car constantly smells of bad BO as if he’s living in there not showering for days. On the days they agreed he would drop my mom off to work and pick her up he’s been bailing and not showing up. So she’s been having to use Uber to get to and from work while my Uncle is pretty much using her car like it’s his 24/7. She has asked for her car keys back numerous times and has told him he needs to get his own car now because she has helped him enough. But he’s outright refusing to give it back. She’s basically begging him (ridiculous, I know) to give her back her car and he just won’t. He tells her to continue taking Uber in a nasty rude tone. She no longer wants to help him at this point but seems intimidated by him (although she won’t admit it). She can’t get him to give her back her car willingly. What can she do? Outside of the police can she call a towing company to tow it?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Towing company owner here. I've dealt with this multiple times. There are 2 ways to do this without anyone being arrested. 1. Hire a repossession company. Most of them are about 4-500 for a repo. & they may not want to a civil issue repo. 2. Locate where he parks the car. Find a Towing company willing to do this beforehand. Have them meet you around the corner from the car & call your local sheriff or police & ask for a civil standby. Which means they are only there to keep the peace. Your mom, the cop & the tow truck will pull up to the car & the tow truck will load it up. She will have to have proof she owns the car to show the tow truck before they just load it up. The cops can't force him to give up the keys so your mom may have to get new keys.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Uncle is refusing to return my Mothers car, what can she do? Uncles car got repoed at the beginning of the year. My mother tried to help him out by letting him use her car until he could get back on his feet. Since then he has been acting incredibly disrespectful, rude and entitled. He leaves trash in the car as well as bottles of pee in there. The car constantly smells of bad BO as if he’s living in there not showering for days. On the days they agreed he would drop my mom off to work and pick her up he’s been bailing and not showing up. So she’s been having to use Uber to get to and from work while my Uncle is pretty much using her car like it’s his 24/7. She has asked for her car keys back numerous times and has told him he needs to get his own car now because she has helped him enough. But he’s outright refusing to give it back. She’s basically begging him (ridiculous, I know) to give her back her car and he just won’t. He tells her to continue taking Uber in a nasty rude tone. She no longer wants to help him at this point but seems intimidated by him (although she won’t admit it). She can’t get him to give her back her car willingly. What can she do? Outside of the police can she call a towing company to tow it?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Just tell him he has a day to return it before it’s reported stolen", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Uncle is refusing to return my Mothers car, what can she do? Uncles car got repoed at the beginning of the year. My mother tried to help him out by letting him use her car until he could get back on his feet. Since then he has been acting incredibly disrespectful, rude and entitled. He leaves trash in the car as well as bottles of pee in there. The car constantly smells of bad BO as if he’s living in there not showering for days. On the days they agreed he would drop my mom off to work and pick her up he’s been bailing and not showing up. So she’s been having to use Uber to get to and from work while my Uncle is pretty much using her car like it’s his 24/7. She has asked for her car keys back numerous times and has told him he needs to get his own car now because she has helped him enough. But he’s outright refusing to give it back. She’s basically begging him (ridiculous, I know) to give her back her car and he just won’t. He tells her to continue taking Uber in a nasty rude tone. She no longer wants to help him at this point but seems intimidated by him (although she won’t admit it). She can’t get him to give her back her car willingly. What can she do? Outside of the police can she call a towing company to tow it?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "What state? To the people saying “report it stolen”: 2 problems 1) OPs mom doesn’t seem to want to prosecute. Speaking only for my jurisdiction since OP didn’t give a location, a car can’t be entered as stolen if the owner isn’t willing to prosecute. 2) Again, speaking for my jurisdiction, The uncle did have permission to drive the car, but that permission has expired. So this may not even be a stolen car, but simply an unauthorized use of a motor vehicle. If OP lived where I do (since we don’t know where OP lives) they would have to send a letter through certified mail revoking permission and demanding return of the vehicle. You’d then have to wait a specified amount of time, 10 days or so, from when the letter was received or it was returned undeliverable. Only then could you report it stolen. But again, if OP doesn’t want to press charges, they only want their car back, it still won’t be entered as stolen into the NCIC database. And if not then cops can’t tow it or arrest uncle even if he’s found inside it.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Mother withholding my father's will. Says the house is \"hers now\". Land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership to my dad and 1/3rd to my mom. My mother acts suspiciously every time this matter comes up. First she told me \"your father and I didn't have wills\", and that \"when your father died his half of the house went to me\". Then a few weeks later she said in front of a lawyer \"yes I have a will\" and \"yes my husband had a will\". The land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership by my dad and 1/3rd ownership by my mom. She (my mom) says that she has not applied for probate. But seems to think she can sell the house any time she feels like it. Something is starting to smell very fishy (?). I will talk to a lawyer soon and I will contact the Govt \"find a will\" service. Any other advice or comments on this matter would be greatly appreciated.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "---\r > http://imgur.com/a/myIAb\r \r ---\r *I am a bot whose sole purpose is to improve the timeliness and accuracy of responses in this subreddit.*\r \r ---\r **It appears you forgot to include your location in the title or body of your post. Please update the body of your original post to include this information.**\r \r ---\r ***Do NOT delete this post - Instead, simply edit the post with the requested information.***\r \r ---\r \r Author: /u/dakinibliss66\r \r Title: **Mother withholding my father's will. Says the house is \"hers now\". Land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership to my dad and 1/3rd to my mom.**\r \r Original Post: \r \r > My mother acts suspiciously every time this matter comes up. First she told me \"your father and I didn't have wills\", and that \"when your father died his half of the house went to me\". > > Then a few weeks later she said in front of a lawyer \"yes I have a will\" and \"yes my husband had a will\". > > The land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership by my dad and 1/3rd ownership by my mom. > > She (my mom) says that she has not applied for probate. But seems to think she can sell the house any time she feels like it. > > Something is starting to smell very fishy (?). I will talk to a lawyer soon and I will contact the Govt \"find a will\" service. Any other advice or comments on this matter would be greatly appreciated.\r \r \r \r \r ---\r LocationBot 4.999988713 83/601rds | Report Issues | >!TdUO5NmMWlXWXJFcjJzZ!<", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Mother withholding my father's will. Says the house is \"hers now\". Land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership to my dad and 1/3rd to my mom. My mother acts suspiciously every time this matter comes up. First she told me \"your father and I didn't have wills\", and that \"when your father died his half of the house went to me\". Then a few weeks later she said in front of a lawyer \"yes I have a will\" and \"yes my husband had a will\". The land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership by my dad and 1/3rd ownership by my mom. She (my mom) says that she has not applied for probate. But seems to think she can sell the house any time she feels like it. Something is starting to smell very fishy (?). I will talk to a lawyer soon and I will contact the Govt \"find a will\" service. Any other advice or comments on this matter would be greatly appreciated.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "You can file to probate his estate as intestate. If she wants the property distributed according to a will, she's going to need to produce the will.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Mother withholding my father's will. Says the house is \"hers now\". Land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership to my dad and 1/3rd to my mom. My mother acts suspiciously every time this matter comes up. First she told me \"your father and I didn't have wills\", and that \"when your father died his half of the house went to me\". Then a few weeks later she said in front of a lawyer \"yes I have a will\" and \"yes my husband had a will\". The land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership by my dad and 1/3rd ownership by my mom. She (my mom) says that she has not applied for probate. But seems to think she can sell the house any time she feels like it. Something is starting to smell very fishy (?). I will talk to a lawyer soon and I will contact the Govt \"find a will\" service. Any other advice or comments on this matter would be greatly appreciated.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "---\r > http://imgur.com/a/myIAb\r \r ---\r *I am a bot whose sole purpose is to improve the timeliness and accuracy of responses in this subreddit.*\r \r ---\r **It appears you forgot to include your location in the title or body of your post. Please update the body of your original post to include this information.**\r \r ---\r ***Do NOT delete this post - Instead, simply edit the post with the requested information.***\r \r ---\r \r Author: /u/dakinibliss66\r \r Title: **Mother withholding my father's will. Says the house is \"hers now\". Land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership to my dad and 1/3rd to my mom.**\r \r Original Post: \r \r > My mother acts suspiciously every time this matter comes up. First she told me \"your father and I didn't have wills\", and that \"when your father died his half of the house went to me\". > > Then a few weeks later she said in front of a lawyer \"yes I have a will\" and \"yes my husband had a will\". > > The land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership by my dad and 1/3rd ownership by my mom. > > She (my mom) says that she has not applied for probate. But seems to think she can sell the house any time she feels like it. > > Something is starting to smell very fishy (?). I will talk to a lawyer soon and I will contact the Govt \"find a will\" service. Any other advice or comments on this matter would be greatly appreciated.\r \r \r \r \r ---\r LocationBot 4.999988713 83/601rds | Report Issues | >!TdUO5NmMWlXWXJFcjJzZ!<", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Mother withholding my father's will. Says the house is \"hers now\". Land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership to my dad and 1/3rd to my mom. My mother acts suspiciously every time this matter comes up. First she told me \"your father and I didn't have wills\", and that \"when your father died his half of the house went to me\". Then a few weeks later she said in front of a lawyer \"yes I have a will\" and \"yes my husband had a will\". The land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership by my dad and 1/3rd ownership by my mom. She (my mom) says that she has not applied for probate. But seems to think she can sell the house any time she feels like it. Something is starting to smell very fishy (?). I will talk to a lawyer soon and I will contact the Govt \"find a will\" service. Any other advice or comments on this matter would be greatly appreciated.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "She cannot sell the house without probate. Your father is one of the owners. To sell it she needs his signature which is not possible. The only person who can sign now is someone who is appointed by a court to represent your father's estate. Depending on many factors including your location and what any will does or doesn't say, she may actually end up owning the home. You can get a lawyer and start probate if you want. It doesn't have to be her.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Mother withholding my father's will. Says the house is \"hers now\". Land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership to my dad and 1/3rd to my mom. My mother acts suspiciously every time this matter comes up. First she told me \"your father and I didn't have wills\", and that \"when your father died his half of the house went to me\". Then a few weeks later she said in front of a lawyer \"yes I have a will\" and \"yes my husband had a will\". The land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership by my dad and 1/3rd ownership by my mom. She (my mom) says that she has not applied for probate. But seems to think she can sell the house any time she feels like it. Something is starting to smell very fishy (?). I will talk to a lawyer soon and I will contact the Govt \"find a will\" service. Any other advice or comments on this matter would be greatly appreciated.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "---\r > http://imgur.com/a/myIAb\r \r ---\r *I am a bot whose sole purpose is to improve the timeliness and accuracy of responses in this subreddit.*\r \r ---\r **It appears you forgot to include your location in the title or body of your post. Please update the body of your original post to include this information.**\r \r ---\r ***Do NOT delete this post - Instead, simply edit the post with the requested information.***\r \r ---\r \r Author: /u/dakinibliss66\r \r Title: **Mother withholding my father's will. Says the house is \"hers now\". Land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership to my dad and 1/3rd to my mom.**\r \r Original Post: \r \r > My mother acts suspiciously every time this matter comes up. First she told me \"your father and I didn't have wills\", and that \"when your father died his half of the house went to me\". > > Then a few weeks later she said in front of a lawyer \"yes I have a will\" and \"yes my husband had a will\". > > The land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership by my dad and 1/3rd ownership by my mom. > > She (my mom) says that she has not applied for probate. But seems to think she can sell the house any time she feels like it. > > Something is starting to smell very fishy (?). I will talk to a lawyer soon and I will contact the Govt \"find a will\" service. Any other advice or comments on this matter would be greatly appreciated.\r \r \r \r \r ---\r LocationBot 4.999988713 83/601rds | Report Issues | >!TdUO5NmMWlXWXJFcjJzZ!<", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Mother withholding my father's will. Says the house is \"hers now\". Land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership to my dad and 1/3rd to my mom. My mother acts suspiciously every time this matter comes up. First she told me \"your father and I didn't have wills\", and that \"when your father died his half of the house went to me\". Then a few weeks later she said in front of a lawyer \"yes I have a will\" and \"yes my husband had a will\". The land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership by my dad and 1/3rd ownership by my mom. She (my mom) says that she has not applied for probate. But seems to think she can sell the house any time she feels like it. Something is starting to smell very fishy (?). I will talk to a lawyer soon and I will contact the Govt \"find a will\" service. Any other advice or comments on this matter would be greatly appreciated.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "when did he die and in what state?", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Mother withholding my father's will. Says the house is \"hers now\". Land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership to my dad and 1/3rd to my mom. My mother acts suspiciously every time this matter comes up. First she told me \"your father and I didn't have wills\", and that \"when your father died his half of the house went to me\". Then a few weeks later she said in front of a lawyer \"yes I have a will\" and \"yes my husband had a will\". The land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership by my dad and 1/3rd ownership by my mom. She (my mom) says that she has not applied for probate. But seems to think she can sell the house any time she feels like it. Something is starting to smell very fishy (?). I will talk to a lawyer soon and I will contact the Govt \"find a will\" service. Any other advice or comments on this matter would be greatly appreciated.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "---\r > http://imgur.com/a/myIAb\r \r ---\r *I am a bot whose sole purpose is to improve the timeliness and accuracy of responses in this subreddit.*\r \r ---\r **It appears you forgot to include your location in the title or body of your post. Please update the body of your original post to include this information.**\r \r ---\r ***Do NOT delete this post - Instead, simply edit the post with the requested information.***\r \r ---\r \r Author: /u/dakinibliss66\r \r Title: **Mother withholding my father's will. Says the house is \"hers now\". Land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership to my dad and 1/3rd to my mom.**\r \r Original Post: \r \r > My mother acts suspiciously every time this matter comes up. First she told me \"your father and I didn't have wills\", and that \"when your father died his half of the house went to me\". > > Then a few weeks later she said in front of a lawyer \"yes I have a will\" and \"yes my husband had a will\". > > The land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership by my dad and 1/3rd ownership by my mom. > > She (my mom) says that she has not applied for probate. But seems to think she can sell the house any time she feels like it. > > Something is starting to smell very fishy (?). I will talk to a lawyer soon and I will contact the Govt \"find a will\" service. Any other advice or comments on this matter would be greatly appreciated.\r \r \r \r \r ---\r LocationBot 4.999988713 83/601rds | Report Issues | >!TdUO5NmMWlXWXJFcjJzZ!<", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Mother withholding my father's will. Says the house is \"hers now\". Land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership to my dad and 1/3rd to my mom. My mother acts suspiciously every time this matter comes up. First she told me \"your father and I didn't have wills\", and that \"when your father died his half of the house went to me\". Then a few weeks later she said in front of a lawyer \"yes I have a will\" and \"yes my husband had a will\". The land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership by my dad and 1/3rd ownership by my mom. She (my mom) says that she has not applied for probate. But seems to think she can sell the house any time she feels like it. Something is starting to smell very fishy (?). I will talk to a lawyer soon and I will contact the Govt \"find a will\" service. Any other advice or comments on this matter would be greatly appreciated.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Were they legally married? That can play a huge effect on how things play out.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Mother withholding my father's will. Says the house is \"hers now\". Land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership to my dad and 1/3rd to my mom. My mother acts suspiciously every time this matter comes up. First she told me \"your father and I didn't have wills\", and that \"when your father died his half of the house went to me\". Then a few weeks later she said in front of a lawyer \"yes I have a will\" and \"yes my husband had a will\". The land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership by my dad and 1/3rd ownership by my mom. She (my mom) says that she has not applied for probate. But seems to think she can sell the house any time she feels like it. Something is starting to smell very fishy (?). I will talk to a lawyer soon and I will contact the Govt \"find a will\" service. Any other advice or comments on this matter would be greatly appreciated.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "---\r > http://imgur.com/a/myIAb\r \r ---\r *I am a bot whose sole purpose is to improve the timeliness and accuracy of responses in this subreddit.*\r \r ---\r **It appears you forgot to include your location in the title or body of your post. Please update the body of your original post to include this information.**\r \r ---\r ***Do NOT delete this post - Instead, simply edit the post with the requested information.***\r \r ---\r \r Author: /u/dakinibliss66\r \r Title: **Mother withholding my father's will. Says the house is \"hers now\". Land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership to my dad and 1/3rd to my mom.**\r \r Original Post: \r \r > My mother acts suspiciously every time this matter comes up. First she told me \"your father and I didn't have wills\", and that \"when your father died his half of the house went to me\". > > Then a few weeks later she said in front of a lawyer \"yes I have a will\" and \"yes my husband had a will\". > > The land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership by my dad and 1/3rd ownership by my mom. > > She (my mom) says that she has not applied for probate. But seems to think she can sell the house any time she feels like it. > > Something is starting to smell very fishy (?). I will talk to a lawyer soon and I will contact the Govt \"find a will\" service. Any other advice or comments on this matter would be greatly appreciated.\r \r \r \r \r ---\r LocationBot 4.999988713 83/601rds | Report Issues | >!TdUO5NmMWlXWXJFcjJzZ!<", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Mother withholding my father's will. Says the house is \"hers now\". Land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership to my dad and 1/3rd to my mom. My mother acts suspiciously every time this matter comes up. First she told me \"your father and I didn't have wills\", and that \"when your father died his half of the house went to me\". Then a few weeks later she said in front of a lawyer \"yes I have a will\" and \"yes my husband had a will\". The land title says they were 'tenants in common' with 2/3rds ownership by my dad and 1/3rd ownership by my mom. She (my mom) says that she has not applied for probate. But seems to think she can sell the house any time she feels like it. Something is starting to smell very fishy (?). I will talk to a lawyer soon and I will contact the Govt \"find a will\" service. Any other advice or comments on this matter would be greatly appreciated.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Location matters. Please post your location. Some states require a will or trust to be recorded. You might start be looking into that. or better still get a consultation from a lawyer that specializes in trusts and wills.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "[OREGON] My tenant/roommate has been missing for 3 weeks and his employer stopped by, wondering where he is. His cat is going crazy in his room, will probably die soon, I need advice on how to proceed. I live in a room shared house (2 stories, 6 rooms) and also manage the tenants as part of my rent. We have a tenant that hasn’t shown up in 3 weeks, not entirely uncommon, before he got a cat. He’s always been a bit sporadic and tends to take off for days or weeks, occasionally a month at a time but usually lets us know beforehand. Usually, not always. He doesn’t have a phone, so we can’t get ahold of him. His boss stopped by the other day and asked if we’d seen him, he hasn’t been to work in 3 weeks. We let his boss know that we hadn’t seen or heard anything from him in that time either. He also has (had?) a meth problem that I thought we got past, I honestly thought he was dealing for a while because of his constant coming and going, all hours of the day and night. And disappearing for days at a time is pretty common tweaker behavior. Also, constantly giving rides to shady characters that we sometimes met. Not to mention he’s had all four of his tires slashed, twice. So maybe this time he pissed off the wrong people and got buried in the woods? IDK My question is; He has a (now currently dying) cat in his room. How do I go about gaining entry to his room? Do I call the police and have them perform a welfare check? Knowing full well he isn’t home. Do I file a missing persons report? I am at a loss here and have no idea how to proceed and stay within legal landlord parameters. PLEASE HELP ME SAVE THE CAT!!! TIME IS LIMITED BEFORE IT DIES!!! Also, I do NOT need advice on evictions. I am fully aware of tenant law regarding that and have plenty of court experience. This missing person stuff is new territory, please only offer advice regarding how to save the cat. That is all I care about at the moment. Thank you.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "https://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/90.322 In cases of emergency you can enter without notice. This is an emergency. Enter and save that cat right now", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[OREGON] My tenant/roommate has been missing for 3 weeks and his employer stopped by, wondering where he is. His cat is going crazy in his room, will probably die soon, I need advice on how to proceed. I live in a room shared house (2 stories, 6 rooms) and also manage the tenants as part of my rent. We have a tenant that hasn’t shown up in 3 weeks, not entirely uncommon, before he got a cat. He’s always been a bit sporadic and tends to take off for days or weeks, occasionally a month at a time but usually lets us know beforehand. Usually, not always. He doesn’t have a phone, so we can’t get ahold of him. His boss stopped by the other day and asked if we’d seen him, he hasn’t been to work in 3 weeks. We let his boss know that we hadn’t seen or heard anything from him in that time either. He also has (had?) a meth problem that I thought we got past, I honestly thought he was dealing for a while because of his constant coming and going, all hours of the day and night. And disappearing for days at a time is pretty common tweaker behavior. Also, constantly giving rides to shady characters that we sometimes met. Not to mention he’s had all four of his tires slashed, twice. So maybe this time he pissed off the wrong people and got buried in the woods? IDK My question is; He has a (now currently dying) cat in his room. How do I go about gaining entry to his room? Do I call the police and have them perform a welfare check? Knowing full well he isn’t home. Do I file a missing persons report? I am at a loss here and have no idea how to proceed and stay within legal landlord parameters. PLEASE HELP ME SAVE THE CAT!!! TIME IS LIMITED BEFORE IT DIES!!! Also, I do NOT need advice on evictions. I am fully aware of tenant law regarding that and have plenty of court experience. This missing person stuff is new territory, please only offer advice regarding how to save the cat. That is all I care about at the moment. Thank you.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Just open the door. You said it's unlocked. Literally open the door and let the cat out. No one is going to be able to provide you a legal source that says \"yes ihateflyingthings, you can legally save a cat in this specific situation\". Save the cat. Stop living with tweakers.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "[OREGON] My tenant/roommate has been missing for 3 weeks and his employer stopped by, wondering where he is. His cat is going crazy in his room, will probably die soon, I need advice on how to proceed. I live in a room shared house (2 stories, 6 rooms) and also manage the tenants as part of my rent. We have a tenant that hasn’t shown up in 3 weeks, not entirely uncommon, before he got a cat. He’s always been a bit sporadic and tends to take off for days or weeks, occasionally a month at a time but usually lets us know beforehand. Usually, not always. He doesn’t have a phone, so we can’t get ahold of him. His boss stopped by the other day and asked if we’d seen him, he hasn’t been to work in 3 weeks. We let his boss know that we hadn’t seen or heard anything from him in that time either. He also has (had?) a meth problem that I thought we got past, I honestly thought he was dealing for a while because of his constant coming and going, all hours of the day and night. And disappearing for days at a time is pretty common tweaker behavior. Also, constantly giving rides to shady characters that we sometimes met. Not to mention he’s had all four of his tires slashed, twice. So maybe this time he pissed off the wrong people and got buried in the woods? IDK My question is; He has a (now currently dying) cat in his room. How do I go about gaining entry to his room? Do I call the police and have them perform a welfare check? Knowing full well he isn’t home. Do I file a missing persons report? I am at a loss here and have no idea how to proceed and stay within legal landlord parameters. PLEASE HELP ME SAVE THE CAT!!! TIME IS LIMITED BEFORE IT DIES!!! Also, I do NOT need advice on evictions. I am fully aware of tenant law regarding that and have plenty of court experience. This missing person stuff is new territory, please only offer advice regarding how to save the cat. That is all I care about at the moment. Thank you.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Open the door to his room, feed it, give it water, give it a litter box. He has been gone a while, you can file a missing person's report.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[OREGON] My tenant/roommate has been missing for 3 weeks and his employer stopped by, wondering where he is. His cat is going crazy in his room, will probably die soon, I need advice on how to proceed. I live in a room shared house (2 stories, 6 rooms) and also manage the tenants as part of my rent. We have a tenant that hasn’t shown up in 3 weeks, not entirely uncommon, before he got a cat. He’s always been a bit sporadic and tends to take off for days or weeks, occasionally a month at a time but usually lets us know beforehand. Usually, not always. He doesn’t have a phone, so we can’t get ahold of him. His boss stopped by the other day and asked if we’d seen him, he hasn’t been to work in 3 weeks. We let his boss know that we hadn’t seen or heard anything from him in that time either. He also has (had?) a meth problem that I thought we got past, I honestly thought he was dealing for a while because of his constant coming and going, all hours of the day and night. And disappearing for days at a time is pretty common tweaker behavior. Also, constantly giving rides to shady characters that we sometimes met. Not to mention he’s had all four of his tires slashed, twice. So maybe this time he pissed off the wrong people and got buried in the woods? IDK My question is; He has a (now currently dying) cat in his room. How do I go about gaining entry to his room? Do I call the police and have them perform a welfare check? Knowing full well he isn’t home. Do I file a missing persons report? I am at a loss here and have no idea how to proceed and stay within legal landlord parameters. PLEASE HELP ME SAVE THE CAT!!! TIME IS LIMITED BEFORE IT DIES!!! Also, I do NOT need advice on evictions. I am fully aware of tenant law regarding that and have plenty of court experience. This missing person stuff is new territory, please only offer advice regarding how to save the cat. That is all I care about at the moment. Thank you.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Just open the door. You said it's unlocked. Literally open the door and let the cat out. No one is going to be able to provide you a legal source that says \"yes ihateflyingthings, you can legally save a cat in this specific situation\". Save the cat. Stop living with tweakers.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "[OREGON] My tenant/roommate has been missing for 3 weeks and his employer stopped by, wondering where he is. His cat is going crazy in his room, will probably die soon, I need advice on how to proceed. I live in a room shared house (2 stories, 6 rooms) and also manage the tenants as part of my rent. We have a tenant that hasn’t shown up in 3 weeks, not entirely uncommon, before he got a cat. He’s always been a bit sporadic and tends to take off for days or weeks, occasionally a month at a time but usually lets us know beforehand. Usually, not always. He doesn’t have a phone, so we can’t get ahold of him. His boss stopped by the other day and asked if we’d seen him, he hasn’t been to work in 3 weeks. We let his boss know that we hadn’t seen or heard anything from him in that time either. He also has (had?) a meth problem that I thought we got past, I honestly thought he was dealing for a while because of his constant coming and going, all hours of the day and night. And disappearing for days at a time is pretty common tweaker behavior. Also, constantly giving rides to shady characters that we sometimes met. Not to mention he’s had all four of his tires slashed, twice. So maybe this time he pissed off the wrong people and got buried in the woods? IDK My question is; He has a (now currently dying) cat in his room. How do I go about gaining entry to his room? Do I call the police and have them perform a welfare check? Knowing full well he isn’t home. Do I file a missing persons report? I am at a loss here and have no idea how to proceed and stay within legal landlord parameters. PLEASE HELP ME SAVE THE CAT!!! TIME IS LIMITED BEFORE IT DIES!!! Also, I do NOT need advice on evictions. I am fully aware of tenant law regarding that and have plenty of court experience. This missing person stuff is new territory, please only offer advice regarding how to save the cat. That is all I care about at the moment. Thank you.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "This may sound like a dumb question but how has that cat survived for 3 weeks already? Could someone else be stopping by?", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[OREGON] My tenant/roommate has been missing for 3 weeks and his employer stopped by, wondering where he is. His cat is going crazy in his room, will probably die soon, I need advice on how to proceed. I live in a room shared house (2 stories, 6 rooms) and also manage the tenants as part of my rent. We have a tenant that hasn’t shown up in 3 weeks, not entirely uncommon, before he got a cat. He’s always been a bit sporadic and tends to take off for days or weeks, occasionally a month at a time but usually lets us know beforehand. Usually, not always. He doesn’t have a phone, so we can’t get ahold of him. His boss stopped by the other day and asked if we’d seen him, he hasn’t been to work in 3 weeks. We let his boss know that we hadn’t seen or heard anything from him in that time either. He also has (had?) a meth problem that I thought we got past, I honestly thought he was dealing for a while because of his constant coming and going, all hours of the day and night. And disappearing for days at a time is pretty common tweaker behavior. Also, constantly giving rides to shady characters that we sometimes met. Not to mention he’s had all four of his tires slashed, twice. So maybe this time he pissed off the wrong people and got buried in the woods? IDK My question is; He has a (now currently dying) cat in his room. How do I go about gaining entry to his room? Do I call the police and have them perform a welfare check? Knowing full well he isn’t home. Do I file a missing persons report? I am at a loss here and have no idea how to proceed and stay within legal landlord parameters. PLEASE HELP ME SAVE THE CAT!!! TIME IS LIMITED BEFORE IT DIES!!! Also, I do NOT need advice on evictions. I am fully aware of tenant law regarding that and have plenty of court experience. This missing person stuff is new territory, please only offer advice regarding how to save the cat. That is all I care about at the moment. Thank you.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Just open the door. You said it's unlocked. Literally open the door and let the cat out. No one is going to be able to provide you a legal source that says \"yes ihateflyingthings, you can legally save a cat in this specific situation\". Save the cat. Stop living with tweakers.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "[OREGON] My tenant/roommate has been missing for 3 weeks and his employer stopped by, wondering where he is. His cat is going crazy in his room, will probably die soon, I need advice on how to proceed. I live in a room shared house (2 stories, 6 rooms) and also manage the tenants as part of my rent. We have a tenant that hasn’t shown up in 3 weeks, not entirely uncommon, before he got a cat. He’s always been a bit sporadic and tends to take off for days or weeks, occasionally a month at a time but usually lets us know beforehand. Usually, not always. He doesn’t have a phone, so we can’t get ahold of him. His boss stopped by the other day and asked if we’d seen him, he hasn’t been to work in 3 weeks. We let his boss know that we hadn’t seen or heard anything from him in that time either. He also has (had?) a meth problem that I thought we got past, I honestly thought he was dealing for a while because of his constant coming and going, all hours of the day and night. And disappearing for days at a time is pretty common tweaker behavior. Also, constantly giving rides to shady characters that we sometimes met. Not to mention he’s had all four of his tires slashed, twice. So maybe this time he pissed off the wrong people and got buried in the woods? IDK My question is; He has a (now currently dying) cat in his room. How do I go about gaining entry to his room? Do I call the police and have them perform a welfare check? Knowing full well he isn’t home. Do I file a missing persons report? I am at a loss here and have no idea how to proceed and stay within legal landlord parameters. PLEASE HELP ME SAVE THE CAT!!! TIME IS LIMITED BEFORE IT DIES!!! Also, I do NOT need advice on evictions. I am fully aware of tenant law regarding that and have plenty of court experience. This missing person stuff is new territory, please only offer advice regarding how to save the cat. That is all I care about at the moment. Thank you.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Assuming this is accurate, the only person who would complain would be your roomate. Just kick down the door and feed the cat.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[OREGON] My tenant/roommate has been missing for 3 weeks and his employer stopped by, wondering where he is. His cat is going crazy in his room, will probably die soon, I need advice on how to proceed. I live in a room shared house (2 stories, 6 rooms) and also manage the tenants as part of my rent. We have a tenant that hasn’t shown up in 3 weeks, not entirely uncommon, before he got a cat. He’s always been a bit sporadic and tends to take off for days or weeks, occasionally a month at a time but usually lets us know beforehand. Usually, not always. He doesn’t have a phone, so we can’t get ahold of him. His boss stopped by the other day and asked if we’d seen him, he hasn’t been to work in 3 weeks. We let his boss know that we hadn’t seen or heard anything from him in that time either. He also has (had?) a meth problem that I thought we got past, I honestly thought he was dealing for a while because of his constant coming and going, all hours of the day and night. And disappearing for days at a time is pretty common tweaker behavior. Also, constantly giving rides to shady characters that we sometimes met. Not to mention he’s had all four of his tires slashed, twice. So maybe this time he pissed off the wrong people and got buried in the woods? IDK My question is; He has a (now currently dying) cat in his room. How do I go about gaining entry to his room? Do I call the police and have them perform a welfare check? Knowing full well he isn’t home. Do I file a missing persons report? I am at a loss here and have no idea how to proceed and stay within legal landlord parameters. PLEASE HELP ME SAVE THE CAT!!! TIME IS LIMITED BEFORE IT DIES!!! Also, I do NOT need advice on evictions. I am fully aware of tenant law regarding that and have plenty of court experience. This missing person stuff is new territory, please only offer advice regarding how to save the cat. That is all I care about at the moment. Thank you.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Just open the door. You said it's unlocked. Literally open the door and let the cat out. No one is going to be able to provide you a legal source that says \"yes ihateflyingthings, you can legally save a cat in this specific situation\". Save the cat. Stop living with tweakers.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "[OREGON] My tenant/roommate has been missing for 3 weeks and his employer stopped by, wondering where he is. His cat is going crazy in his room, will probably die soon, I need advice on how to proceed. I live in a room shared house (2 stories, 6 rooms) and also manage the tenants as part of my rent. We have a tenant that hasn’t shown up in 3 weeks, not entirely uncommon, before he got a cat. He’s always been a bit sporadic and tends to take off for days or weeks, occasionally a month at a time but usually lets us know beforehand. Usually, not always. He doesn’t have a phone, so we can’t get ahold of him. His boss stopped by the other day and asked if we’d seen him, he hasn’t been to work in 3 weeks. We let his boss know that we hadn’t seen or heard anything from him in that time either. He also has (had?) a meth problem that I thought we got past, I honestly thought he was dealing for a while because of his constant coming and going, all hours of the day and night. And disappearing for days at a time is pretty common tweaker behavior. Also, constantly giving rides to shady characters that we sometimes met. Not to mention he’s had all four of his tires slashed, twice. So maybe this time he pissed off the wrong people and got buried in the woods? IDK My question is; He has a (now currently dying) cat in his room. How do I go about gaining entry to his room? Do I call the police and have them perform a welfare check? Knowing full well he isn’t home. Do I file a missing persons report? I am at a loss here and have no idea how to proceed and stay within legal landlord parameters. PLEASE HELP ME SAVE THE CAT!!! TIME IS LIMITED BEFORE IT DIES!!! Also, I do NOT need advice on evictions. I am fully aware of tenant law regarding that and have plenty of court experience. This missing person stuff is new territory, please only offer advice regarding how to save the cat. That is all I care about at the moment. Thank you.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Call the police, inform them you believe that the animal is in danger, ask them if you or them can enter his room, be sure to express that it is unlike your tenant to leave the cat alone so long and you'd like to file a missing persons report is you are able to.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[OREGON] My tenant/roommate has been missing for 3 weeks and his employer stopped by, wondering where he is. His cat is going crazy in his room, will probably die soon, I need advice on how to proceed. I live in a room shared house (2 stories, 6 rooms) and also manage the tenants as part of my rent. We have a tenant that hasn’t shown up in 3 weeks, not entirely uncommon, before he got a cat. He’s always been a bit sporadic and tends to take off for days or weeks, occasionally a month at a time but usually lets us know beforehand. Usually, not always. He doesn’t have a phone, so we can’t get ahold of him. His boss stopped by the other day and asked if we’d seen him, he hasn’t been to work in 3 weeks. We let his boss know that we hadn’t seen or heard anything from him in that time either. He also has (had?) a meth problem that I thought we got past, I honestly thought he was dealing for a while because of his constant coming and going, all hours of the day and night. And disappearing for days at a time is pretty common tweaker behavior. Also, constantly giving rides to shady characters that we sometimes met. Not to mention he’s had all four of his tires slashed, twice. So maybe this time he pissed off the wrong people and got buried in the woods? IDK My question is; He has a (now currently dying) cat in his room. How do I go about gaining entry to his room? Do I call the police and have them perform a welfare check? Knowing full well he isn’t home. Do I file a missing persons report? I am at a loss here and have no idea how to proceed and stay within legal landlord parameters. PLEASE HELP ME SAVE THE CAT!!! TIME IS LIMITED BEFORE IT DIES!!! Also, I do NOT need advice on evictions. I am fully aware of tenant law regarding that and have plenty of court experience. This missing person stuff is new territory, please only offer advice regarding how to save the cat. That is all I care about at the moment. Thank you.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Just open the door. You said it's unlocked. Literally open the door and let the cat out. No one is going to be able to provide you a legal source that says \"yes ihateflyingthings, you can legally save a cat in this specific situation\". Save the cat. Stop living with tweakers.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Are public schools really allowed to make students pay them to get an education? PA I am a high school senior about to graduate. At the end of last year, my guidance counselor told me I was required to take five AP classes, that it was “school policy” for students to be in the highest class level they could, and my grades qualified me for the highest class level, AP. I told him that I couldn’t afford ONE AP test, let alone five, and that that was why I had refused to sign up for AP classes for the past two years. He told me that I could take the class but not take the exam, which sounded great so I signed up for all five. When it came time for the tests I told my teachers that I wasn’t taking the tests because I couldn’t afford them, and they told me that I was required to take the tests, that it was school policy. There was so much back and forth about it that I ended up in the principal’s office arguing with her. She told me that since I have proof of being a low income student (free lunches $$) they could get my fees waived. So they didn’t make me pay upfront, and I took all five tests. Now that graduation is a week away, the school is trying to get everyone to settle their “accounts” with the school and pay for lost textbooks and whatnot. If you don’t pay, you don’t get to graduate. I thought it was a mistake when I got a bill for almost five hundred dollars, but the school is now telling me that my fees WEREN’T waived and I’m responsible for paying for them. They won’t tell me why my fees weren’t waived, so I’m pretty sure at this point that they fucked up somewhere, that I was told the wrong information and now they’re trying to cover their asses. I don’t have five hundred dollars. My mom doesn’t have five hundred dollars, which I thought was pretty obvious since I’ve been on free lunch since kindergarten. But now apparently my diploma will be withheld if I don’t pay up. I’m supposed to be going to college in August, so I’m obviously not ok with that. My mom and I have both talked to everyone at the school who’ll listen to us, but they just keep saying it’s my fault and I have to pay up. My only option at this point is going to one of those CASH MONEY NOW CASH CASH CASHCASHCASH loan places, which will really chap my ass but apparently is the only way I can graduate next week. So now I’m wondering if this is even legal. It’s a PUBLIC school, isn’t my education supposed to be free? I know that someone has to pay for the tests, I’m not one of those people trying to get something for nothing. But it doesn’t seem right that they REQUIRED me to take five AP classes and then REQUIRED me to take the tests and REQUIRED me to run up a five hundred dollar bill. I think they should eat the cost of the tests, since I got wrong information from two separate administrators. Can a public school really charge me this much money just for doing what I was told I had to do to get my education? Tl;dr: School told me I was required to take five AP classes I tested into. Then they told me I was also required to take the AP tests, and that my AP test fees would be waived since I'm poor, but now they're saying I have to pay for them to graduate. Can public schools really have a school policy that force students to pay tons of money?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "> She told me that since I have proof of being a low income student (free lunches $$) they could get my fees waived. You need to talk to the principal and get it waived in the system. Don't bother to talk to anyone else.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Are public schools really allowed to make students pay them to get an education? PA I am a high school senior about to graduate. At the end of last year, my guidance counselor told me I was required to take five AP classes, that it was “school policy” for students to be in the highest class level they could, and my grades qualified me for the highest class level, AP. I told him that I couldn’t afford ONE AP test, let alone five, and that that was why I had refused to sign up for AP classes for the past two years. He told me that I could take the class but not take the exam, which sounded great so I signed up for all five. When it came time for the tests I told my teachers that I wasn’t taking the tests because I couldn’t afford them, and they told me that I was required to take the tests, that it was school policy. There was so much back and forth about it that I ended up in the principal’s office arguing with her. She told me that since I have proof of being a low income student (free lunches $$) they could get my fees waived. So they didn’t make me pay upfront, and I took all five tests. Now that graduation is a week away, the school is trying to get everyone to settle their “accounts” with the school and pay for lost textbooks and whatnot. If you don’t pay, you don’t get to graduate. I thought it was a mistake when I got a bill for almost five hundred dollars, but the school is now telling me that my fees WEREN’T waived and I’m responsible for paying for them. They won’t tell me why my fees weren’t waived, so I’m pretty sure at this point that they fucked up somewhere, that I was told the wrong information and now they’re trying to cover their asses. I don’t have five hundred dollars. My mom doesn’t have five hundred dollars, which I thought was pretty obvious since I’ve been on free lunch since kindergarten. But now apparently my diploma will be withheld if I don’t pay up. I’m supposed to be going to college in August, so I’m obviously not ok with that. My mom and I have both talked to everyone at the school who’ll listen to us, but they just keep saying it’s my fault and I have to pay up. My only option at this point is going to one of those CASH MONEY NOW CASH CASH CASHCASHCASH loan places, which will really chap my ass but apparently is the only way I can graduate next week. So now I’m wondering if this is even legal. It’s a PUBLIC school, isn’t my education supposed to be free? I know that someone has to pay for the tests, I’m not one of those people trying to get something for nothing. But it doesn’t seem right that they REQUIRED me to take five AP classes and then REQUIRED me to take the tests and REQUIRED me to run up a five hundred dollar bill. I think they should eat the cost of the tests, since I got wrong information from two separate administrators. Can a public school really charge me this much money just for doing what I was told I had to do to get my education? Tl;dr: School told me I was required to take five AP classes I tested into. Then they told me I was also required to take the AP tests, and that my AP test fees would be waived since I'm poor, but now they're saying I have to pay for them to graduate. Can public schools really have a school policy that force students to pay tons of money?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Tell them you're willing to go to the School Board and complain as well. PA Legal Aid may also be able to help you for free.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Are public schools really allowed to make students pay them to get an education? PA I am a high school senior about to graduate. At the end of last year, my guidance counselor told me I was required to take five AP classes, that it was “school policy” for students to be in the highest class level they could, and my grades qualified me for the highest class level, AP. I told him that I couldn’t afford ONE AP test, let alone five, and that that was why I had refused to sign up for AP classes for the past two years. He told me that I could take the class but not take the exam, which sounded great so I signed up for all five. When it came time for the tests I told my teachers that I wasn’t taking the tests because I couldn’t afford them, and they told me that I was required to take the tests, that it was school policy. There was so much back and forth about it that I ended up in the principal’s office arguing with her. She told me that since I have proof of being a low income student (free lunches $$) they could get my fees waived. So they didn’t make me pay upfront, and I took all five tests. Now that graduation is a week away, the school is trying to get everyone to settle their “accounts” with the school and pay for lost textbooks and whatnot. If you don’t pay, you don’t get to graduate. I thought it was a mistake when I got a bill for almost five hundred dollars, but the school is now telling me that my fees WEREN’T waived and I’m responsible for paying for them. They won’t tell me why my fees weren’t waived, so I’m pretty sure at this point that they fucked up somewhere, that I was told the wrong information and now they’re trying to cover their asses. I don’t have five hundred dollars. My mom doesn’t have five hundred dollars, which I thought was pretty obvious since I’ve been on free lunch since kindergarten. But now apparently my diploma will be withheld if I don’t pay up. I’m supposed to be going to college in August, so I’m obviously not ok with that. My mom and I have both talked to everyone at the school who’ll listen to us, but they just keep saying it’s my fault and I have to pay up. My only option at this point is going to one of those CASH MONEY NOW CASH CASH CASHCASHCASH loan places, which will really chap my ass but apparently is the only way I can graduate next week. So now I’m wondering if this is even legal. It’s a PUBLIC school, isn’t my education supposed to be free? I know that someone has to pay for the tests, I’m not one of those people trying to get something for nothing. But it doesn’t seem right that they REQUIRED me to take five AP classes and then REQUIRED me to take the tests and REQUIRED me to run up a five hundred dollar bill. I think they should eat the cost of the tests, since I got wrong information from two separate administrators. Can a public school really charge me this much money just for doing what I was told I had to do to get my education? Tl;dr: School told me I was required to take five AP classes I tested into. Then they told me I was also required to take the AP tests, and that my AP test fees would be waived since I'm poor, but now they're saying I have to pay for them to graduate. Can public schools really have a school policy that force students to pay tons of money?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "> She told me that since I have proof of being a low income student (free lunches $$) they could get my fees waived. You need to talk to the principal and get it waived in the system. Don't bother to talk to anyone else.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Are public schools really allowed to make students pay them to get an education? PA I am a high school senior about to graduate. At the end of last year, my guidance counselor told me I was required to take five AP classes, that it was “school policy” for students to be in the highest class level they could, and my grades qualified me for the highest class level, AP. I told him that I couldn’t afford ONE AP test, let alone five, and that that was why I had refused to sign up for AP classes for the past two years. He told me that I could take the class but not take the exam, which sounded great so I signed up for all five. When it came time for the tests I told my teachers that I wasn’t taking the tests because I couldn’t afford them, and they told me that I was required to take the tests, that it was school policy. There was so much back and forth about it that I ended up in the principal’s office arguing with her. She told me that since I have proof of being a low income student (free lunches $$) they could get my fees waived. So they didn’t make me pay upfront, and I took all five tests. Now that graduation is a week away, the school is trying to get everyone to settle their “accounts” with the school and pay for lost textbooks and whatnot. If you don’t pay, you don’t get to graduate. I thought it was a mistake when I got a bill for almost five hundred dollars, but the school is now telling me that my fees WEREN’T waived and I’m responsible for paying for them. They won’t tell me why my fees weren’t waived, so I’m pretty sure at this point that they fucked up somewhere, that I was told the wrong information and now they’re trying to cover their asses. I don’t have five hundred dollars. My mom doesn’t have five hundred dollars, which I thought was pretty obvious since I’ve been on free lunch since kindergarten. But now apparently my diploma will be withheld if I don’t pay up. I’m supposed to be going to college in August, so I’m obviously not ok with that. My mom and I have both talked to everyone at the school who’ll listen to us, but they just keep saying it’s my fault and I have to pay up. My only option at this point is going to one of those CASH MONEY NOW CASH CASH CASHCASHCASH loan places, which will really chap my ass but apparently is the only way I can graduate next week. So now I’m wondering if this is even legal. It’s a PUBLIC school, isn’t my education supposed to be free? I know that someone has to pay for the tests, I’m not one of those people trying to get something for nothing. But it doesn’t seem right that they REQUIRED me to take five AP classes and then REQUIRED me to take the tests and REQUIRED me to run up a five hundred dollar bill. I think they should eat the cost of the tests, since I got wrong information from two separate administrators. Can a public school really charge me this much money just for doing what I was told I had to do to get my education? Tl;dr: School told me I was required to take five AP classes I tested into. Then they told me I was also required to take the AP tests, and that my AP test fees would be waived since I'm poor, but now they're saying I have to pay for them to graduate. Can public schools really have a school policy that force students to pay tons of money?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "DO NOT ENTERTAIN THOSE PAYDAY LOANS! It will be the worst decision of your life.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Are public schools really allowed to make students pay them to get an education? PA I am a high school senior about to graduate. At the end of last year, my guidance counselor told me I was required to take five AP classes, that it was “school policy” for students to be in the highest class level they could, and my grades qualified me for the highest class level, AP. I told him that I couldn’t afford ONE AP test, let alone five, and that that was why I had refused to sign up for AP classes for the past two years. He told me that I could take the class but not take the exam, which sounded great so I signed up for all five. When it came time for the tests I told my teachers that I wasn’t taking the tests because I couldn’t afford them, and they told me that I was required to take the tests, that it was school policy. There was so much back and forth about it that I ended up in the principal’s office arguing with her. She told me that since I have proof of being a low income student (free lunches $$) they could get my fees waived. So they didn’t make me pay upfront, and I took all five tests. Now that graduation is a week away, the school is trying to get everyone to settle their “accounts” with the school and pay for lost textbooks and whatnot. If you don’t pay, you don’t get to graduate. I thought it was a mistake when I got a bill for almost five hundred dollars, but the school is now telling me that my fees WEREN’T waived and I’m responsible for paying for them. They won’t tell me why my fees weren’t waived, so I’m pretty sure at this point that they fucked up somewhere, that I was told the wrong information and now they’re trying to cover their asses. I don’t have five hundred dollars. My mom doesn’t have five hundred dollars, which I thought was pretty obvious since I’ve been on free lunch since kindergarten. But now apparently my diploma will be withheld if I don’t pay up. I’m supposed to be going to college in August, so I’m obviously not ok with that. My mom and I have both talked to everyone at the school who’ll listen to us, but they just keep saying it’s my fault and I have to pay up. My only option at this point is going to one of those CASH MONEY NOW CASH CASH CASHCASHCASH loan places, which will really chap my ass but apparently is the only way I can graduate next week. So now I’m wondering if this is even legal. It’s a PUBLIC school, isn’t my education supposed to be free? I know that someone has to pay for the tests, I’m not one of those people trying to get something for nothing. But it doesn’t seem right that they REQUIRED me to take five AP classes and then REQUIRED me to take the tests and REQUIRED me to run up a five hundred dollar bill. I think they should eat the cost of the tests, since I got wrong information from two separate administrators. Can a public school really charge me this much money just for doing what I was told I had to do to get my education? Tl;dr: School told me I was required to take five AP classes I tested into. Then they told me I was also required to take the AP tests, and that my AP test fees would be waived since I'm poor, but now they're saying I have to pay for them to graduate. Can public schools really have a school policy that force students to pay tons of money?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "When you say graduate, do you mean \"certify that I have completed course work\" or \"let me walk across stage?\" Either way go to school board about fees.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Are public schools really allowed to make students pay them to get an education? PA I am a high school senior about to graduate. At the end of last year, my guidance counselor told me I was required to take five AP classes, that it was “school policy” for students to be in the highest class level they could, and my grades qualified me for the highest class level, AP. I told him that I couldn’t afford ONE AP test, let alone five, and that that was why I had refused to sign up for AP classes for the past two years. He told me that I could take the class but not take the exam, which sounded great so I signed up for all five. When it came time for the tests I told my teachers that I wasn’t taking the tests because I couldn’t afford them, and they told me that I was required to take the tests, that it was school policy. There was so much back and forth about it that I ended up in the principal’s office arguing with her. She told me that since I have proof of being a low income student (free lunches $$) they could get my fees waived. So they didn’t make me pay upfront, and I took all five tests. Now that graduation is a week away, the school is trying to get everyone to settle their “accounts” with the school and pay for lost textbooks and whatnot. If you don’t pay, you don’t get to graduate. I thought it was a mistake when I got a bill for almost five hundred dollars, but the school is now telling me that my fees WEREN’T waived and I’m responsible for paying for them. They won’t tell me why my fees weren’t waived, so I’m pretty sure at this point that they fucked up somewhere, that I was told the wrong information and now they’re trying to cover their asses. I don’t have five hundred dollars. My mom doesn’t have five hundred dollars, which I thought was pretty obvious since I’ve been on free lunch since kindergarten. But now apparently my diploma will be withheld if I don’t pay up. I’m supposed to be going to college in August, so I’m obviously not ok with that. My mom and I have both talked to everyone at the school who’ll listen to us, but they just keep saying it’s my fault and I have to pay up. My only option at this point is going to one of those CASH MONEY NOW CASH CASH CASHCASHCASH loan places, which will really chap my ass but apparently is the only way I can graduate next week. So now I’m wondering if this is even legal. It’s a PUBLIC school, isn’t my education supposed to be free? I know that someone has to pay for the tests, I’m not one of those people trying to get something for nothing. But it doesn’t seem right that they REQUIRED me to take five AP classes and then REQUIRED me to take the tests and REQUIRED me to run up a five hundred dollar bill. I think they should eat the cost of the tests, since I got wrong information from two separate administrators. Can a public school really charge me this much money just for doing what I was told I had to do to get my education? Tl;dr: School told me I was required to take five AP classes I tested into. Then they told me I was also required to take the AP tests, and that my AP test fees would be waived since I'm poor, but now they're saying I have to pay for them to graduate. Can public schools really have a school policy that force students to pay tons of money?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "DO NOT ENTERTAIN THOSE PAYDAY LOANS! It will be the worst decision of your life.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Are public schools really allowed to make students pay them to get an education? PA I am a high school senior about to graduate. At the end of last year, my guidance counselor told me I was required to take five AP classes, that it was “school policy” for students to be in the highest class level they could, and my grades qualified me for the highest class level, AP. I told him that I couldn’t afford ONE AP test, let alone five, and that that was why I had refused to sign up for AP classes for the past two years. He told me that I could take the class but not take the exam, which sounded great so I signed up for all five. When it came time for the tests I told my teachers that I wasn’t taking the tests because I couldn’t afford them, and they told me that I was required to take the tests, that it was school policy. There was so much back and forth about it that I ended up in the principal’s office arguing with her. She told me that since I have proof of being a low income student (free lunches $$) they could get my fees waived. So they didn’t make me pay upfront, and I took all five tests. Now that graduation is a week away, the school is trying to get everyone to settle their “accounts” with the school and pay for lost textbooks and whatnot. If you don’t pay, you don’t get to graduate. I thought it was a mistake when I got a bill for almost five hundred dollars, but the school is now telling me that my fees WEREN’T waived and I’m responsible for paying for them. They won’t tell me why my fees weren’t waived, so I’m pretty sure at this point that they fucked up somewhere, that I was told the wrong information and now they’re trying to cover their asses. I don’t have five hundred dollars. My mom doesn’t have five hundred dollars, which I thought was pretty obvious since I’ve been on free lunch since kindergarten. But now apparently my diploma will be withheld if I don’t pay up. I’m supposed to be going to college in August, so I’m obviously not ok with that. My mom and I have both talked to everyone at the school who’ll listen to us, but they just keep saying it’s my fault and I have to pay up. My only option at this point is going to one of those CASH MONEY NOW CASH CASH CASHCASHCASH loan places, which will really chap my ass but apparently is the only way I can graduate next week. So now I’m wondering if this is even legal. It’s a PUBLIC school, isn’t my education supposed to be free? I know that someone has to pay for the tests, I’m not one of those people trying to get something for nothing. But it doesn’t seem right that they REQUIRED me to take five AP classes and then REQUIRED me to take the tests and REQUIRED me to run up a five hundred dollar bill. I think they should eat the cost of the tests, since I got wrong information from two separate administrators. Can a public school really charge me this much money just for doing what I was told I had to do to get my education? Tl;dr: School told me I was required to take five AP classes I tested into. Then they told me I was also required to take the AP tests, and that my AP test fees would be waived since I'm poor, but now they're saying I have to pay for them to graduate. Can public schools really have a school policy that force students to pay tons of money?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "As a practical matter, a week is not very long to get this resolved. Perhaps in the meantime as an emergency back up plan you can make arrangements to walk and participate in the graduation ceremony and just get the empty folder with the actual diploma to follow.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Are public schools really allowed to make students pay them to get an education? PA I am a high school senior about to graduate. At the end of last year, my guidance counselor told me I was required to take five AP classes, that it was “school policy” for students to be in the highest class level they could, and my grades qualified me for the highest class level, AP. I told him that I couldn’t afford ONE AP test, let alone five, and that that was why I had refused to sign up for AP classes for the past two years. He told me that I could take the class but not take the exam, which sounded great so I signed up for all five. When it came time for the tests I told my teachers that I wasn’t taking the tests because I couldn’t afford them, and they told me that I was required to take the tests, that it was school policy. There was so much back and forth about it that I ended up in the principal’s office arguing with her. She told me that since I have proof of being a low income student (free lunches $$) they could get my fees waived. So they didn’t make me pay upfront, and I took all five tests. Now that graduation is a week away, the school is trying to get everyone to settle their “accounts” with the school and pay for lost textbooks and whatnot. If you don’t pay, you don’t get to graduate. I thought it was a mistake when I got a bill for almost five hundred dollars, but the school is now telling me that my fees WEREN’T waived and I’m responsible for paying for them. They won’t tell me why my fees weren’t waived, so I’m pretty sure at this point that they fucked up somewhere, that I was told the wrong information and now they’re trying to cover their asses. I don’t have five hundred dollars. My mom doesn’t have five hundred dollars, which I thought was pretty obvious since I’ve been on free lunch since kindergarten. But now apparently my diploma will be withheld if I don’t pay up. I’m supposed to be going to college in August, so I’m obviously not ok with that. My mom and I have both talked to everyone at the school who’ll listen to us, but they just keep saying it’s my fault and I have to pay up. My only option at this point is going to one of those CASH MONEY NOW CASH CASH CASHCASHCASH loan places, which will really chap my ass but apparently is the only way I can graduate next week. So now I’m wondering if this is even legal. It’s a PUBLIC school, isn’t my education supposed to be free? I know that someone has to pay for the tests, I’m not one of those people trying to get something for nothing. But it doesn’t seem right that they REQUIRED me to take five AP classes and then REQUIRED me to take the tests and REQUIRED me to run up a five hundred dollar bill. I think they should eat the cost of the tests, since I got wrong information from two separate administrators. Can a public school really charge me this much money just for doing what I was told I had to do to get my education? Tl;dr: School told me I was required to take five AP classes I tested into. Then they told me I was also required to take the AP tests, and that my AP test fees would be waived since I'm poor, but now they're saying I have to pay for them to graduate. Can public schools really have a school policy that force students to pay tons of money?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "DO NOT ENTERTAIN THOSE PAYDAY LOANS! It will be the worst decision of your life.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Are public schools really allowed to make students pay them to get an education? PA I am a high school senior about to graduate. At the end of last year, my guidance counselor told me I was required to take five AP classes, that it was “school policy” for students to be in the highest class level they could, and my grades qualified me for the highest class level, AP. I told him that I couldn’t afford ONE AP test, let alone five, and that that was why I had refused to sign up for AP classes for the past two years. He told me that I could take the class but not take the exam, which sounded great so I signed up for all five. When it came time for the tests I told my teachers that I wasn’t taking the tests because I couldn’t afford them, and they told me that I was required to take the tests, that it was school policy. There was so much back and forth about it that I ended up in the principal’s office arguing with her. She told me that since I have proof of being a low income student (free lunches $$) they could get my fees waived. So they didn’t make me pay upfront, and I took all five tests. Now that graduation is a week away, the school is trying to get everyone to settle their “accounts” with the school and pay for lost textbooks and whatnot. If you don’t pay, you don’t get to graduate. I thought it was a mistake when I got a bill for almost five hundred dollars, but the school is now telling me that my fees WEREN’T waived and I’m responsible for paying for them. They won’t tell me why my fees weren’t waived, so I’m pretty sure at this point that they fucked up somewhere, that I was told the wrong information and now they’re trying to cover their asses. I don’t have five hundred dollars. My mom doesn’t have five hundred dollars, which I thought was pretty obvious since I’ve been on free lunch since kindergarten. But now apparently my diploma will be withheld if I don’t pay up. I’m supposed to be going to college in August, so I’m obviously not ok with that. My mom and I have both talked to everyone at the school who’ll listen to us, but they just keep saying it’s my fault and I have to pay up. My only option at this point is going to one of those CASH MONEY NOW CASH CASH CASHCASHCASH loan places, which will really chap my ass but apparently is the only way I can graduate next week. So now I’m wondering if this is even legal. It’s a PUBLIC school, isn’t my education supposed to be free? I know that someone has to pay for the tests, I’m not one of those people trying to get something for nothing. But it doesn’t seem right that they REQUIRED me to take five AP classes and then REQUIRED me to take the tests and REQUIRED me to run up a five hundred dollar bill. I think they should eat the cost of the tests, since I got wrong information from two separate administrators. Can a public school really charge me this much money just for doing what I was told I had to do to get my education? Tl;dr: School told me I was required to take five AP classes I tested into. Then they told me I was also required to take the AP tests, and that my AP test fees would be waived since I'm poor, but now they're saying I have to pay for them to graduate. Can public schools really have a school policy that force students to pay tons of money?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "If the school board/superintendent isn't helpful try contacting your state representatives and state board of education.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Are public schools really allowed to make students pay them to get an education? PA I am a high school senior about to graduate. At the end of last year, my guidance counselor told me I was required to take five AP classes, that it was “school policy” for students to be in the highest class level they could, and my grades qualified me for the highest class level, AP. I told him that I couldn’t afford ONE AP test, let alone five, and that that was why I had refused to sign up for AP classes for the past two years. He told me that I could take the class but not take the exam, which sounded great so I signed up for all five. When it came time for the tests I told my teachers that I wasn’t taking the tests because I couldn’t afford them, and they told me that I was required to take the tests, that it was school policy. There was so much back and forth about it that I ended up in the principal’s office arguing with her. She told me that since I have proof of being a low income student (free lunches $$) they could get my fees waived. So they didn’t make me pay upfront, and I took all five tests. Now that graduation is a week away, the school is trying to get everyone to settle their “accounts” with the school and pay for lost textbooks and whatnot. If you don’t pay, you don’t get to graduate. I thought it was a mistake when I got a bill for almost five hundred dollars, but the school is now telling me that my fees WEREN’T waived and I’m responsible for paying for them. They won’t tell me why my fees weren’t waived, so I’m pretty sure at this point that they fucked up somewhere, that I was told the wrong information and now they’re trying to cover their asses. I don’t have five hundred dollars. My mom doesn’t have five hundred dollars, which I thought was pretty obvious since I’ve been on free lunch since kindergarten. But now apparently my diploma will be withheld if I don’t pay up. I’m supposed to be going to college in August, so I’m obviously not ok with that. My mom and I have both talked to everyone at the school who’ll listen to us, but they just keep saying it’s my fault and I have to pay up. My only option at this point is going to one of those CASH MONEY NOW CASH CASH CASHCASHCASH loan places, which will really chap my ass but apparently is the only way I can graduate next week. So now I’m wondering if this is even legal. It’s a PUBLIC school, isn’t my education supposed to be free? I know that someone has to pay for the tests, I’m not one of those people trying to get something for nothing. But it doesn’t seem right that they REQUIRED me to take five AP classes and then REQUIRED me to take the tests and REQUIRED me to run up a five hundred dollar bill. I think they should eat the cost of the tests, since I got wrong information from two separate administrators. Can a public school really charge me this much money just for doing what I was told I had to do to get my education? Tl;dr: School told me I was required to take five AP classes I tested into. Then they told me I was also required to take the AP tests, and that my AP test fees would be waived since I'm poor, but now they're saying I have to pay for them to graduate. Can public schools really have a school policy that force students to pay tons of money?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "DO NOT ENTERTAIN THOSE PAYDAY LOANS! It will be the worst decision of your life.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Took newborn to hospital for head injury and now they’re telling me that they have to involve Child Protective Team??? Today I experienced what any worse parents can experience, my child getting injured, as I was getting him on his car seat, my 8 week old flung him self off the counter that I had the car seat on and bumped his head. I felt like complete and utter shit but I immediately took him to the ER to rule out any traumatic brain injury. I’m now in the hospital day 2, they stated results of imaging was normal, but this nurse told me that child protective team will talk to me and also that they are going to re X-ray my newborn??? When I asked why they said it’s standard procedure for anyone under a year old to have child protective team involved. I feel a failure as a parent because I made my first mistake with my baby and I’ve just gone through hell dealing with the stress of my newborns injury, and now im being told child protective team has to investigate? Is this normal?? And why do they have to re-X-ray the bones and expose them to more radiation?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "This is pretty normal. The additional x-rays are to rule out other history of broken bones which may not have been treated. It is a standard and somewhat effective way of trying to zero in on families where there's a larger problem.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Took newborn to hospital for head injury and now they’re telling me that they have to involve Child Protective Team??? Today I experienced what any worse parents can experience, my child getting injured, as I was getting him on his car seat, my 8 week old flung him self off the counter that I had the car seat on and bumped his head. I felt like complete and utter shit but I immediately took him to the ER to rule out any traumatic brain injury. I’m now in the hospital day 2, they stated results of imaging was normal, but this nurse told me that child protective team will talk to me and also that they are going to re X-ray my newborn??? When I asked why they said it’s standard procedure for anyone under a year old to have child protective team involved. I feel a failure as a parent because I made my first mistake with my baby and I’ve just gone through hell dealing with the stress of my newborns injury, and now im being told child protective team has to investigate? Is this normal?? And why do they have to re-X-ray the bones and expose them to more radiation?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "I used to work for DCS in a US state years ago, and it was standard procedure for a child under a certain age with an injury to have an investigation, for the reasons stated above, like abuse being covered by an \"accident.\" I had coworkers going to hospitals pretty frequently. This can happen even when someone does everything right, but due to the high potential for abuse, it has to be investigated.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Took newborn to hospital for head injury and now they’re telling me that they have to involve Child Protective Team??? Today I experienced what any worse parents can experience, my child getting injured, as I was getting him on his car seat, my 8 week old flung him self off the counter that I had the car seat on and bumped his head. I felt like complete and utter shit but I immediately took him to the ER to rule out any traumatic brain injury. I’m now in the hospital day 2, they stated results of imaging was normal, but this nurse told me that child protective team will talk to me and also that they are going to re X-ray my newborn??? When I asked why they said it’s standard procedure for anyone under a year old to have child protective team involved. I feel a failure as a parent because I made my first mistake with my baby and I’ve just gone through hell dealing with the stress of my newborns injury, and now im being told child protective team has to investigate? Is this normal?? And why do they have to re-X-ray the bones and expose them to more radiation?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "It’s normal. Many parents lie to cover abusive injuries to their kids. If they tell you it’s standard protocol then they legally have to contact them to cover their own asses in the case it’s a legitimate abuse incident. Just be truthful to the case worker.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Took newborn to hospital for head injury and now they’re telling me that they have to involve Child Protective Team??? Today I experienced what any worse parents can experience, my child getting injured, as I was getting him on his car seat, my 8 week old flung him self off the counter that I had the car seat on and bumped his head. I felt like complete and utter shit but I immediately took him to the ER to rule out any traumatic brain injury. I’m now in the hospital day 2, they stated results of imaging was normal, but this nurse told me that child protective team will talk to me and also that they are going to re X-ray my newborn??? When I asked why they said it’s standard procedure for anyone under a year old to have child protective team involved. I feel a failure as a parent because I made my first mistake with my baby and I’ve just gone through hell dealing with the stress of my newborns injury, and now im being told child protective team has to investigate? Is this normal?? And why do they have to re-X-ray the bones and expose them to more radiation?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "I used to work for DCS in a US state years ago, and it was standard procedure for a child under a certain age with an injury to have an investigation, for the reasons stated above, like abuse being covered by an \"accident.\" I had coworkers going to hospitals pretty frequently. This can happen even when someone does everything right, but due to the high potential for abuse, it has to be investigated.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Took newborn to hospital for head injury and now they’re telling me that they have to involve Child Protective Team??? Today I experienced what any worse parents can experience, my child getting injured, as I was getting him on his car seat, my 8 week old flung him self off the counter that I had the car seat on and bumped his head. I felt like complete and utter shit but I immediately took him to the ER to rule out any traumatic brain injury. I’m now in the hospital day 2, they stated results of imaging was normal, but this nurse told me that child protective team will talk to me and also that they are going to re X-ray my newborn??? When I asked why they said it’s standard procedure for anyone under a year old to have child protective team involved. I feel a failure as a parent because I made my first mistake with my baby and I’ve just gone through hell dealing with the stress of my newborns injury, and now im being told child protective team has to investigate? Is this normal?? And why do they have to re-X-ray the bones and expose them to more radiation?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "It’s normal. Many parents lie to cover abusive injuries to their kids. If they tell you it’s standard protocol then they legally have to contact them to cover their own asses in the case it’s a legitimate abuse incident. Just be truthful to the case worker.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Took newborn to hospital for head injury and now they’re telling me that they have to involve Child Protective Team??? Today I experienced what any worse parents can experience, my child getting injured, as I was getting him on his car seat, my 8 week old flung him self off the counter that I had the car seat on and bumped his head. I felt like complete and utter shit but I immediately took him to the ER to rule out any traumatic brain injury. I’m now in the hospital day 2, they stated results of imaging was normal, but this nurse told me that child protective team will talk to me and also that they are going to re X-ray my newborn??? When I asked why they said it’s standard procedure for anyone under a year old to have child protective team involved. I feel a failure as a parent because I made my first mistake with my baby and I’ve just gone through hell dealing with the stress of my newborns injury, and now im being told child protective team has to investigate? Is this normal?? And why do they have to re-X-ray the bones and expose them to more radiation?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "I am a hospital pharmacist. I am not a lawyer. This is standard operating procedure for an injury such as this one. It does NOT mean they think you intentionally harmed your baby. The additional X-rays will not harm your baby. You are a not a failure as a parent. Every parent learns lessons. I accidentally left the a baby gate open and my 1 year old tumbled down about 8 stairs. She ended up being totally fine but I of course felt terrible for weeks. I still cringe thinking about it. My wife and I learned from that experience and now shout \"GATE OPEN\" every time we leave the gate open with kids upstairs.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Took newborn to hospital for head injury and now they’re telling me that they have to involve Child Protective Team??? Today I experienced what any worse parents can experience, my child getting injured, as I was getting him on his car seat, my 8 week old flung him self off the counter that I had the car seat on and bumped his head. I felt like complete and utter shit but I immediately took him to the ER to rule out any traumatic brain injury. I’m now in the hospital day 2, they stated results of imaging was normal, but this nurse told me that child protective team will talk to me and also that they are going to re X-ray my newborn??? When I asked why they said it’s standard procedure for anyone under a year old to have child protective team involved. I feel a failure as a parent because I made my first mistake with my baby and I’ve just gone through hell dealing with the stress of my newborns injury, and now im being told child protective team has to investigate? Is this normal?? And why do they have to re-X-ray the bones and expose them to more radiation?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Breathe deep and try to calm down. It’s standard procedure to get child services involved. Most of these guys are very understanding, and will come from a viewpoint that you’re a (I’m assuming) new mom, or if you have other children, then you’re still getting reacquainted with having a new born again. They know parents make mistakes, and their kids will get injured through no intent and malice on your part. They just have to play it safe, and they can’t just assume there was no intent involved until they actually investigate. They’re just looking after your baby. Whatever you do, don’t be defiant, overly defensive, or combative. Those are red flags for anyone. You’re already remorseful, and they’ll see that. Be honest and understanding towards their own perspective, and give them no reason to suspect you’re hiding anything. You’re all trying to do best by your child.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Took newborn to hospital for head injury and now they’re telling me that they have to involve Child Protective Team??? Today I experienced what any worse parents can experience, my child getting injured, as I was getting him on his car seat, my 8 week old flung him self off the counter that I had the car seat on and bumped his head. I felt like complete and utter shit but I immediately took him to the ER to rule out any traumatic brain injury. I’m now in the hospital day 2, they stated results of imaging was normal, but this nurse told me that child protective team will talk to me and also that they are going to re X-ray my newborn??? When I asked why they said it’s standard procedure for anyone under a year old to have child protective team involved. I feel a failure as a parent because I made my first mistake with my baby and I’ve just gone through hell dealing with the stress of my newborns injury, and now im being told child protective team has to investigate? Is this normal?? And why do they have to re-X-ray the bones and expose them to more radiation?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "I am a hospital pharmacist. I am not a lawyer. This is standard operating procedure for an injury such as this one. It does NOT mean they think you intentionally harmed your baby. The additional X-rays will not harm your baby. You are a not a failure as a parent. Every parent learns lessons. I accidentally left the a baby gate open and my 1 year old tumbled down about 8 stairs. She ended up being totally fine but I of course felt terrible for weeks. I still cringe thinking about it. My wife and I learned from that experience and now shout \"GATE OPEN\" every time we leave the gate open with kids upstairs.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Took newborn to hospital for head injury and now they’re telling me that they have to involve Child Protective Team??? Today I experienced what any worse parents can experience, my child getting injured, as I was getting him on his car seat, my 8 week old flung him self off the counter that I had the car seat on and bumped his head. I felt like complete and utter shit but I immediately took him to the ER to rule out any traumatic brain injury. I’m now in the hospital day 2, they stated results of imaging was normal, but this nurse told me that child protective team will talk to me and also that they are going to re X-ray my newborn??? When I asked why they said it’s standard procedure for anyone under a year old to have child protective team involved. I feel a failure as a parent because I made my first mistake with my baby and I’ve just gone through hell dealing with the stress of my newborns injury, and now im being told child protective team has to investigate? Is this normal?? And why do they have to re-X-ray the bones and expose them to more radiation?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Deep breaths parent! It's so scary, I understand how you are feeling! You are not a failure as a parent. Accidents happen and really for the first couple of years you are just trying to keep a tiny person from unaliving themselves in ways you didn't know were possible. One of my good friends is an investigator for CPS. This is pretty common procedure following an injury like this. It isn't that they don't believe you, it's because they believed the wrong person in the past. So they are making sure they follow all protocol to protect all kids (obviously this is a general statement). The extra xray is just to ensure they didn't miss anything. Lastly, I've been the kid in this situation. My idiot aunt was babysitting me when I was 3, went to the gym to work out, and I was playing on the equipment. I fell off a weight bench at JUST the right angle and fractured my arm. My mom also had a broken arm because she slipped and fell at work. So dv was assumed. Everything cleared up, but it's definitely scary! Hugs to you!", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Took newborn to hospital for head injury and now they’re telling me that they have to involve Child Protective Team??? Today I experienced what any worse parents can experience, my child getting injured, as I was getting him on his car seat, my 8 week old flung him self off the counter that I had the car seat on and bumped his head. I felt like complete and utter shit but I immediately took him to the ER to rule out any traumatic brain injury. I’m now in the hospital day 2, they stated results of imaging was normal, but this nurse told me that child protective team will talk to me and also that they are going to re X-ray my newborn??? When I asked why they said it’s standard procedure for anyone under a year old to have child protective team involved. I feel a failure as a parent because I made my first mistake with my baby and I’ve just gone through hell dealing with the stress of my newborns injury, and now im being told child protective team has to investigate? Is this normal?? And why do they have to re-X-ray the bones and expose them to more radiation?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "I am a hospital pharmacist. I am not a lawyer. This is standard operating procedure for an injury such as this one. It does NOT mean they think you intentionally harmed your baby. The additional X-rays will not harm your baby. You are a not a failure as a parent. Every parent learns lessons. I accidentally left the a baby gate open and my 1 year old tumbled down about 8 stairs. She ended up being totally fine but I of course felt terrible for weeks. I still cringe thinking about it. My wife and I learned from that experience and now shout \"GATE OPEN\" every time we leave the gate open with kids upstairs.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Propery manager conducted audit and says I owe $1600 in back payments for discounts erroneously given to me. They have taken my February rent to apply to this oversight and is now telling me that I am behind on February rent!!! My apartment manager is harassing me for money I do not owe. When I moved into my apartment there were many outstanding deficiencies. I sent an exhaustive email detailing/noting all of the items that they promised to do prior to my move in that were not completed. The property manager conducted a walk thru of my unit. I pointed out all of the outstanding items. She apologized for the many oversights and told me that they would apply concessions to me account verbally and via email. The amount and duration of the concessions were not told to me. My rent is $1500 a month and for 8 months I received a concession of $200 off of my monthly rent. I paid $1300 per month plus water, as billed. Now the property manager sent me a notice stating that I owe back $1600 because she hadn't intended to give me those discounts and it was meant to only be a one-time discount of $200. She has taken my Feb rent payment and applied it toward this amount and informed me that I am now behind on my rent. When submitting my rent checks I always made note on my checks that the check was to cover rent+water. I have never missed a rent payment and never paid late. Always paid my rent on time, minus the concessions that were given to me. I received a notice demanding I pay the delinquent rent (that IMo is not delinquent) or face eviction. Also, received a notice to renew my lease. Another note... the property is under new ownership and management and they are telling me that these discounts though given to me from the prior owner/management company are now owed to them. The onsite property manager, the one harassing me, is the same onsite manager who issued the discounts and now working with the new company.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "City/state makes a big difference. Please edit your post and include.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Propery manager conducted audit and says I owe $1600 in back payments for discounts erroneously given to me. They have taken my February rent to apply to this oversight and is now telling me that I am behind on February rent!!! My apartment manager is harassing me for money I do not owe. When I moved into my apartment there were many outstanding deficiencies. I sent an exhaustive email detailing/noting all of the items that they promised to do prior to my move in that were not completed. The property manager conducted a walk thru of my unit. I pointed out all of the outstanding items. She apologized for the many oversights and told me that they would apply concessions to me account verbally and via email. The amount and duration of the concessions were not told to me. My rent is $1500 a month and for 8 months I received a concession of $200 off of my monthly rent. I paid $1300 per month plus water, as billed. Now the property manager sent me a notice stating that I owe back $1600 because she hadn't intended to give me those discounts and it was meant to only be a one-time discount of $200. She has taken my Feb rent payment and applied it toward this amount and informed me that I am now behind on my rent. When submitting my rent checks I always made note on my checks that the check was to cover rent+water. I have never missed a rent payment and never paid late. Always paid my rent on time, minus the concessions that were given to me. I received a notice demanding I pay the delinquent rent (that IMo is not delinquent) or face eviction. Also, received a notice to renew my lease. Another note... the property is under new ownership and management and they are telling me that these discounts though given to me from the prior owner/management company are now owed to them. The onsite property manager, the one harassing me, is the same onsite manager who issued the discounts and now working with the new company.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Do you still have a copy of the emails? It sounds like you may be looking at court. If the lease says $1,500 and the manager says it was a one time credit of $200 and you have no other proof it is going to be hard to win a case. If you have emails listing everything that was wrong you could at least get a total value to show the single $200 wouldn’t have come close to covering it.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Propery manager conducted audit and says I owe $1600 in back payments for discounts erroneously given to me. They have taken my February rent to apply to this oversight and is now telling me that I am behind on February rent!!! My apartment manager is harassing me for money I do not owe. When I moved into my apartment there were many outstanding deficiencies. I sent an exhaustive email detailing/noting all of the items that they promised to do prior to my move in that were not completed. The property manager conducted a walk thru of my unit. I pointed out all of the outstanding items. She apologized for the many oversights and told me that they would apply concessions to me account verbally and via email. The amount and duration of the concessions were not told to me. My rent is $1500 a month and for 8 months I received a concession of $200 off of my monthly rent. I paid $1300 per month plus water, as billed. Now the property manager sent me a notice stating that I owe back $1600 because she hadn't intended to give me those discounts and it was meant to only be a one-time discount of $200. She has taken my Feb rent payment and applied it toward this amount and informed me that I am now behind on my rent. When submitting my rent checks I always made note on my checks that the check was to cover rent+water. I have never missed a rent payment and never paid late. Always paid my rent on time, minus the concessions that were given to me. I received a notice demanding I pay the delinquent rent (that IMo is not delinquent) or face eviction. Also, received a notice to renew my lease. Another note... the property is under new ownership and management and they are telling me that these discounts though given to me from the prior owner/management company are now owed to them. The onsite property manager, the one harassing me, is the same onsite manager who issued the discounts and now working with the new company.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Propery manager conducted audit and says I owe $1600 in back payments for discounts erroneously given to me. They have taken my February rent to apply to this oversight and is now telling me that I am behind on February rent!!! My apartment manager is harassing me for money I do not owe. When I moved into my apartment there were many outstanding deficiencies. I sent an exhaustive email detailing/noting all of the items that they promised to do prior to my move in that were not completed. The property manager conducted a walk thru of my unit. I pointed out all of the outstanding items. She apologized for the many oversights and told me that they would apply concessions to me account verbally and via email. The amount and duration of the concessions were not told to me. My rent is $1500 a month and for 8 months I received a concession of $200 off of my monthly rent. I paid $1300 per month plus water, as billed. Now the property manager sent me a notice stating that I owe back $1600 because she hadn't intended to give me those discounts and it was meant to only be a one-time discount of $200. She has taken my Feb rent payment and applied it toward this amount and informed me that I am now behind on my rent. When submitting my rent checks I always made note on my checks that the check was to cover rent+water. I have never missed a rent payment and never paid late. Always paid my rent on time, minus the concessions that were given to me. I received a notice demanding I pay the delinquent rent (that IMo is not delinquent) or face eviction. Also, received a notice to renew my lease. Another note... the property is under new ownership and management and they are telling me that these discounts though given to me from the prior owner/management company are now owed to them. The onsite property manager, the one harassing me, is the same onsite manager who issued the discounts and now working with the new company.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Do you still have a copy of the emails? It sounds like you may be looking at court. If the lease says $1,500 and the manager says it was a one time credit of $200 and you have no other proof it is going to be hard to win a case. If you have emails listing everything that was wrong you could at least get a total value to show the single $200 wouldn’t have come close to covering it.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Propery manager conducted audit and says I owe $1600 in back payments for discounts erroneously given to me. They have taken my February rent to apply to this oversight and is now telling me that I am behind on February rent!!! My apartment manager is harassing me for money I do not owe. When I moved into my apartment there were many outstanding deficiencies. I sent an exhaustive email detailing/noting all of the items that they promised to do prior to my move in that were not completed. The property manager conducted a walk thru of my unit. I pointed out all of the outstanding items. She apologized for the many oversights and told me that they would apply concessions to me account verbally and via email. The amount and duration of the concessions were not told to me. My rent is $1500 a month and for 8 months I received a concession of $200 off of my monthly rent. I paid $1300 per month plus water, as billed. Now the property manager sent me a notice stating that I owe back $1600 because she hadn't intended to give me those discounts and it was meant to only be a one-time discount of $200. She has taken my Feb rent payment and applied it toward this amount and informed me that I am now behind on my rent. When submitting my rent checks I always made note on my checks that the check was to cover rent+water. I have never missed a rent payment and never paid late. Always paid my rent on time, minus the concessions that were given to me. I received a notice demanding I pay the delinquent rent (that IMo is not delinquent) or face eviction. Also, received a notice to renew my lease. Another note... the property is under new ownership and management and they are telling me that these discounts though given to me from the prior owner/management company are now owed to them. The onsite property manager, the one harassing me, is the same onsite manager who issued the discounts and now working with the new company.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "---\r > http://imgur.com/a/myIAb\r \r ---\r *I am a bot whose sole purpose is to improve the timeliness and accuracy of responses in this subreddit.*\r \r ---\r **It appears you forgot to include your location in the title or body of your post. Please update the body of your original post to include this information.**\r \r ---\r ***Do NOT delete this post - Instead, simply edit the post with the requested information.***\r \r ---\r \r Author: /u/bluefrog3301\r \r Title: **Propery manager conducted audit and says I owe $1600 in back payments for discounts erroneously given to me. They have taken my February rent to apply to this oversight and is now telling me that I am behind on February rent!!!**\r \r Original Post: \r \r > My apartment manager is harassing me for money I do not owe. When I moved into my apartment there were many outstanding deficiencies. I sent an exhaustive email detailing/noting all of the items that they promised to do prior to my move in that were not completed. The property manager conducted a walk thru of my unit. I pointed out all of the outstanding items. She apologized for the many oversights and told me that they would apply concessions to me account verbally and via email. The amount and duration of the concessions were not told to me. My rent is $1500 a month and for 8 months I received a concession of $200 off of my monthly rent. I paid $1300 per month plus water, as billed. Now the property manager sent me a notice stating that I owe back $1600 because she hadn't intended to give me those discounts and it was meant to only be a one-time discount of $200. She has taken my Feb rent payment and applied it toward this amount and informed me that I am now behind on my rent. When submitting my rent checks I always made note on my checks that the check was to cover rent+water. I have never missed a rent payment and never paid late. Always paid my rent on time, minus the concessions that were given to me. I received a notice demanding I pay the delinquent rent (that IMo is not delinquent) or face eviction. Also, received a notice to renew my lease. Another note... the property is under new ownership and management and they are telling me that these discounts though given to me from the prior owner/management company are now owed to them. The onsite property manager, the one harassing me, is the same onsite manager who issued the discounts and now working with the new company.  \r \r \r \r \r ---\r LocationBot 4.999988713 83/601rds | Report Issues | >!TdUO5NmMWlXWXJFcjJzZ!<", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Propery manager conducted audit and says I owe $1600 in back payments for discounts erroneously given to me. They have taken my February rent to apply to this oversight and is now telling me that I am behind on February rent!!! My apartment manager is harassing me for money I do not owe. When I moved into my apartment there were many outstanding deficiencies. I sent an exhaustive email detailing/noting all of the items that they promised to do prior to my move in that were not completed. The property manager conducted a walk thru of my unit. I pointed out all of the outstanding items. She apologized for the many oversights and told me that they would apply concessions to me account verbally and via email. The amount and duration of the concessions were not told to me. My rent is $1500 a month and for 8 months I received a concession of $200 off of my monthly rent. I paid $1300 per month plus water, as billed. Now the property manager sent me a notice stating that I owe back $1600 because she hadn't intended to give me those discounts and it was meant to only be a one-time discount of $200. She has taken my Feb rent payment and applied it toward this amount and informed me that I am now behind on my rent. When submitting my rent checks I always made note on my checks that the check was to cover rent+water. I have never missed a rent payment and never paid late. Always paid my rent on time, minus the concessions that were given to me. I received a notice demanding I pay the delinquent rent (that IMo is not delinquent) or face eviction. Also, received a notice to renew my lease. Another note... the property is under new ownership and management and they are telling me that these discounts though given to me from the prior owner/management company are now owed to them. The onsite property manager, the one harassing me, is the same onsite manager who issued the discounts and now working with the new company.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Do you still have a copy of the emails? It sounds like you may be looking at court. If the lease says $1,500 and the manager says it was a one time credit of $200 and you have no other proof it is going to be hard to win a case. If you have emails listing everything that was wrong you could at least get a total value to show the single $200 wouldn’t have come close to covering it.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Propery manager conducted audit and says I owe $1600 in back payments for discounts erroneously given to me. They have taken my February rent to apply to this oversight and is now telling me that I am behind on February rent!!! My apartment manager is harassing me for money I do not owe. When I moved into my apartment there were many outstanding deficiencies. I sent an exhaustive email detailing/noting all of the items that they promised to do prior to my move in that were not completed. The property manager conducted a walk thru of my unit. I pointed out all of the outstanding items. She apologized for the many oversights and told me that they would apply concessions to me account verbally and via email. The amount and duration of the concessions were not told to me. My rent is $1500 a month and for 8 months I received a concession of $200 off of my monthly rent. I paid $1300 per month plus water, as billed. Now the property manager sent me a notice stating that I owe back $1600 because she hadn't intended to give me those discounts and it was meant to only be a one-time discount of $200. She has taken my Feb rent payment and applied it toward this amount and informed me that I am now behind on my rent. When submitting my rent checks I always made note on my checks that the check was to cover rent+water. I have never missed a rent payment and never paid late. Always paid my rent on time, minus the concessions that were given to me. I received a notice demanding I pay the delinquent rent (that IMo is not delinquent) or face eviction. Also, received a notice to renew my lease. Another note... the property is under new ownership and management and they are telling me that these discounts though given to me from the prior owner/management company are now owed to them. The onsite property manager, the one harassing me, is the same onsite manager who issued the discounts and now working with the new company.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Propery manager conducted audit and says I owe $1600 in back payments for discounts erroneously given to me. They have taken my February rent to apply to this oversight and is now telling me that I am behind on February rent!!! My apartment manager is harassing me for money I do not owe. When I moved into my apartment there were many outstanding deficiencies. I sent an exhaustive email detailing/noting all of the items that they promised to do prior to my move in that were not completed. The property manager conducted a walk thru of my unit. I pointed out all of the outstanding items. She apologized for the many oversights and told me that they would apply concessions to me account verbally and via email. The amount and duration of the concessions were not told to me. My rent is $1500 a month and for 8 months I received a concession of $200 off of my monthly rent. I paid $1300 per month plus water, as billed. Now the property manager sent me a notice stating that I owe back $1600 because she hadn't intended to give me those discounts and it was meant to only be a one-time discount of $200. She has taken my Feb rent payment and applied it toward this amount and informed me that I am now behind on my rent. When submitting my rent checks I always made note on my checks that the check was to cover rent+water. I have never missed a rent payment and never paid late. Always paid my rent on time, minus the concessions that were given to me. I received a notice demanding I pay the delinquent rent (that IMo is not delinquent) or face eviction. Also, received a notice to renew my lease. Another note... the property is under new ownership and management and they are telling me that these discounts though given to me from the prior owner/management company are now owed to them. The onsite property manager, the one harassing me, is the same onsite manager who issued the discounts and now working with the new company.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "City/state makes a big difference. Please edit your post and include.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Propery manager conducted audit and says I owe $1600 in back payments for discounts erroneously given to me. They have taken my February rent to apply to this oversight and is now telling me that I am behind on February rent!!! My apartment manager is harassing me for money I do not owe. When I moved into my apartment there were many outstanding deficiencies. I sent an exhaustive email detailing/noting all of the items that they promised to do prior to my move in that were not completed. The property manager conducted a walk thru of my unit. I pointed out all of the outstanding items. She apologized for the many oversights and told me that they would apply concessions to me account verbally and via email. The amount and duration of the concessions were not told to me. My rent is $1500 a month and for 8 months I received a concession of $200 off of my monthly rent. I paid $1300 per month plus water, as billed. Now the property manager sent me a notice stating that I owe back $1600 because she hadn't intended to give me those discounts and it was meant to only be a one-time discount of $200. She has taken my Feb rent payment and applied it toward this amount and informed me that I am now behind on my rent. When submitting my rent checks I always made note on my checks that the check was to cover rent+water. I have never missed a rent payment and never paid late. Always paid my rent on time, minus the concessions that were given to me. I received a notice demanding I pay the delinquent rent (that IMo is not delinquent) or face eviction. Also, received a notice to renew my lease. Another note... the property is under new ownership and management and they are telling me that these discounts though given to me from the prior owner/management company are now owed to them. The onsite property manager, the one harassing me, is the same onsite manager who issued the discounts and now working with the new company.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "---\r > http://imgur.com/a/myIAb\r \r ---\r *I am a bot whose sole purpose is to improve the timeliness and accuracy of responses in this subreddit.*\r \r ---\r **It appears you forgot to include your location in the title or body of your post. Please update the body of your original post to include this information.**\r \r ---\r ***Do NOT delete this post - Instead, simply edit the post with the requested information.***\r \r ---\r \r Author: /u/bluefrog3301\r \r Title: **Propery manager conducted audit and says I owe $1600 in back payments for discounts erroneously given to me. They have taken my February rent to apply to this oversight and is now telling me that I am behind on February rent!!!**\r \r Original Post: \r \r > My apartment manager is harassing me for money I do not owe. When I moved into my apartment there were many outstanding deficiencies. I sent an exhaustive email detailing/noting all of the items that they promised to do prior to my move in that were not completed. The property manager conducted a walk thru of my unit. I pointed out all of the outstanding items. She apologized for the many oversights and told me that they would apply concessions to me account verbally and via email. The amount and duration of the concessions were not told to me. My rent is $1500 a month and for 8 months I received a concession of $200 off of my monthly rent. I paid $1300 per month plus water, as billed. Now the property manager sent me a notice stating that I owe back $1600 because she hadn't intended to give me those discounts and it was meant to only be a one-time discount of $200. She has taken my Feb rent payment and applied it toward this amount and informed me that I am now behind on my rent. When submitting my rent checks I always made note on my checks that the check was to cover rent+water. I have never missed a rent payment and never paid late. Always paid my rent on time, minus the concessions that were given to me. I received a notice demanding I pay the delinquent rent (that IMo is not delinquent) or face eviction. Also, received a notice to renew my lease. Another note... the property is under new ownership and management and they are telling me that these discounts though given to me from the prior owner/management company are now owed to them. The onsite property manager, the one harassing me, is the same onsite manager who issued the discounts and now working with the new company.  \r \r \r \r \r ---\r LocationBot 4.999988713 83/601rds | Report Issues | >!TdUO5NmMWlXWXJFcjJzZ!<", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Propery manager conducted audit and says I owe $1600 in back payments for discounts erroneously given to me. They have taken my February rent to apply to this oversight and is now telling me that I am behind on February rent!!! My apartment manager is harassing me for money I do not owe. When I moved into my apartment there were many outstanding deficiencies. I sent an exhaustive email detailing/noting all of the items that they promised to do prior to my move in that were not completed. The property manager conducted a walk thru of my unit. I pointed out all of the outstanding items. She apologized for the many oversights and told me that they would apply concessions to me account verbally and via email. The amount and duration of the concessions were not told to me. My rent is $1500 a month and for 8 months I received a concession of $200 off of my monthly rent. I paid $1300 per month plus water, as billed. Now the property manager sent me a notice stating that I owe back $1600 because she hadn't intended to give me those discounts and it was meant to only be a one-time discount of $200. She has taken my Feb rent payment and applied it toward this amount and informed me that I am now behind on my rent. When submitting my rent checks I always made note on my checks that the check was to cover rent+water. I have never missed a rent payment and never paid late. Always paid my rent on time, minus the concessions that were given to me. I received a notice demanding I pay the delinquent rent (that IMo is not delinquent) or face eviction. Also, received a notice to renew my lease. Another note... the property is under new ownership and management and they are telling me that these discounts though given to me from the prior owner/management company are now owed to them. The onsite property manager, the one harassing me, is the same onsite manager who issued the discounts and now working with the new company.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "City/state makes a big difference. Please edit your post and include.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "[MI] My ex and I came to an agreement for me to keep my son for a week, she disappeared for 3 weeks, and is now saying I kidnapped him. I have had my son since the 20th of January. BM was supposed to pick him up the 27th of January, she did not pick him up. I texted her and she said “I’ll be back eventually”. During her time away she was doing hardcore drugs, driving reckless, and partying(she posted these things online). She showed up at my door yesterday, no car, barely any clothes, and obviously still high on something, wanting our son. I refused to give him to her and called her parents to take her home. Today she is now posting that I kidnapped our son, she didn’t know where he was, and that I’m abusing him. Absolutely none of this is true, she has not even tried to come get him today. I have cameras in front of my house and can prove that. What I have: 1. Screenshots of every text message between me and my ex agreeing to me having him for a week, her saying she’d be back eventually, and my “where are yous?” during these 3 weeks, 2. Phone call recordings of me and her parents talking about her showing up to my house high 3. Screen recordings of her doing drugs, reckless driving, etc 4. The video of her showing up to my house high How do I proceed from here? I am worried that she will call the police and this will destroy my career. I am already getting hate mail.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Document everything! The text messages between you The agreement that it would be onky a week The social media shpwing what she was doing for three weeks", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[MI] My ex and I came to an agreement for me to keep my son for a week, she disappeared for 3 weeks, and is now saying I kidnapped him. I have had my son since the 20th of January. BM was supposed to pick him up the 27th of January, she did not pick him up. I texted her and she said “I’ll be back eventually”. During her time away she was doing hardcore drugs, driving reckless, and partying(she posted these things online). She showed up at my door yesterday, no car, barely any clothes, and obviously still high on something, wanting our son. I refused to give him to her and called her parents to take her home. Today she is now posting that I kidnapped our son, she didn’t know where he was, and that I’m abusing him. Absolutely none of this is true, she has not even tried to come get him today. I have cameras in front of my house and can prove that. What I have: 1. Screenshots of every text message between me and my ex agreeing to me having him for a week, her saying she’d be back eventually, and my “where are yous?” during these 3 weeks, 2. Phone call recordings of me and her parents talking about her showing up to my house high 3. Screen recordings of her doing drugs, reckless driving, etc 4. The video of her showing up to my house high How do I proceed from here? I am worried that she will call the police and this will destroy my career. I am already getting hate mail.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "File for emergency custody, for starters. Do not let her take him. Do not let her parents take him. If he’s in school/daycare, alert them of the situation and her current state. And lastly, ignore the bullshit on social media. The people that matter will know the truth.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "[MI] My ex and I came to an agreement for me to keep my son for a week, she disappeared for 3 weeks, and is now saying I kidnapped him. I have had my son since the 20th of January. BM was supposed to pick him up the 27th of January, she did not pick him up. I texted her and she said “I’ll be back eventually”. During her time away she was doing hardcore drugs, driving reckless, and partying(she posted these things online). She showed up at my door yesterday, no car, barely any clothes, and obviously still high on something, wanting our son. I refused to give him to her and called her parents to take her home. Today she is now posting that I kidnapped our son, she didn’t know where he was, and that I’m abusing him. Absolutely none of this is true, she has not even tried to come get him today. I have cameras in front of my house and can prove that. What I have: 1. Screenshots of every text message between me and my ex agreeing to me having him for a week, her saying she’d be back eventually, and my “where are yous?” during these 3 weeks, 2. Phone call recordings of me and her parents talking about her showing up to my house high 3. Screen recordings of her doing drugs, reckless driving, etc 4. The video of her showing up to my house high How do I proceed from here? I am worried that she will call the police and this will destroy my career. I am already getting hate mail.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "File for emergency custody at the court house first thing on Monday. Are you on the birth certificate? Does she have custody? Edit: Saw your comment below. Would this normally be your weekend?", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[MI] My ex and I came to an agreement for me to keep my son for a week, she disappeared for 3 weeks, and is now saying I kidnapped him. I have had my son since the 20th of January. BM was supposed to pick him up the 27th of January, she did not pick him up. I texted her and she said “I’ll be back eventually”. During her time away she was doing hardcore drugs, driving reckless, and partying(she posted these things online). She showed up at my door yesterday, no car, barely any clothes, and obviously still high on something, wanting our son. I refused to give him to her and called her parents to take her home. Today she is now posting that I kidnapped our son, she didn’t know where he was, and that I’m abusing him. Absolutely none of this is true, she has not even tried to come get him today. I have cameras in front of my house and can prove that. What I have: 1. Screenshots of every text message between me and my ex agreeing to me having him for a week, her saying she’d be back eventually, and my “where are yous?” during these 3 weeks, 2. Phone call recordings of me and her parents talking about her showing up to my house high 3. Screen recordings of her doing drugs, reckless driving, etc 4. The video of her showing up to my house high How do I proceed from here? I am worried that she will call the police and this will destroy my career. I am already getting hate mail.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "File for emergency custody, for starters. Do not let her take him. Do not let her parents take him. If he’s in school/daycare, alert them of the situation and her current state. And lastly, ignore the bullshit on social media. The people that matter will know the truth.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "[MI] My ex and I came to an agreement for me to keep my son for a week, she disappeared for 3 weeks, and is now saying I kidnapped him. I have had my son since the 20th of January. BM was supposed to pick him up the 27th of January, she did not pick him up. I texted her and she said “I’ll be back eventually”. During her time away she was doing hardcore drugs, driving reckless, and partying(she posted these things online). She showed up at my door yesterday, no car, barely any clothes, and obviously still high on something, wanting our son. I refused to give him to her and called her parents to take her home. Today she is now posting that I kidnapped our son, she didn’t know where he was, and that I’m abusing him. Absolutely none of this is true, she has not even tried to come get him today. I have cameras in front of my house and can prove that. What I have: 1. Screenshots of every text message between me and my ex agreeing to me having him for a week, her saying she’d be back eventually, and my “where are yous?” during these 3 weeks, 2. Phone call recordings of me and her parents talking about her showing up to my house high 3. Screen recordings of her doing drugs, reckless driving, etc 4. The video of her showing up to my house high How do I proceed from here? I am worried that she will call the police and this will destroy my career. I am already getting hate mail.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Looks like you about to get full custody :)", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[MI] My ex and I came to an agreement for me to keep my son for a week, she disappeared for 3 weeks, and is now saying I kidnapped him. I have had my son since the 20th of January. BM was supposed to pick him up the 27th of January, she did not pick him up. I texted her and she said “I’ll be back eventually”. During her time away she was doing hardcore drugs, driving reckless, and partying(she posted these things online). She showed up at my door yesterday, no car, barely any clothes, and obviously still high on something, wanting our son. I refused to give him to her and called her parents to take her home. Today she is now posting that I kidnapped our son, she didn’t know where he was, and that I’m abusing him. Absolutely none of this is true, she has not even tried to come get him today. I have cameras in front of my house and can prove that. What I have: 1. Screenshots of every text message between me and my ex agreeing to me having him for a week, her saying she’d be back eventually, and my “where are yous?” during these 3 weeks, 2. Phone call recordings of me and her parents talking about her showing up to my house high 3. Screen recordings of her doing drugs, reckless driving, etc 4. The video of her showing up to my house high How do I proceed from here? I am worried that she will call the police and this will destroy my career. I am already getting hate mail.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "A month ago you posted how the mother is posting on social media that she spends the child support on herself. You stated he has no toys, no new clothes etc. Now she's abandoned him and will \"be back eventually\". Stop waiting to do something! You can get another career, you can't replace your child. Call CPS, do it today! Tomorrow get a lawyer. This child needs you.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "[MI] My ex and I came to an agreement for me to keep my son for a week, she disappeared for 3 weeks, and is now saying I kidnapped him. I have had my son since the 20th of January. BM was supposed to pick him up the 27th of January, she did not pick him up. I texted her and she said “I’ll be back eventually”. During her time away she was doing hardcore drugs, driving reckless, and partying(she posted these things online). She showed up at my door yesterday, no car, barely any clothes, and obviously still high on something, wanting our son. I refused to give him to her and called her parents to take her home. Today she is now posting that I kidnapped our son, she didn’t know where he was, and that I’m abusing him. Absolutely none of this is true, she has not even tried to come get him today. I have cameras in front of my house and can prove that. What I have: 1. Screenshots of every text message between me and my ex agreeing to me having him for a week, her saying she’d be back eventually, and my “where are yous?” during these 3 weeks, 2. Phone call recordings of me and her parents talking about her showing up to my house high 3. Screen recordings of her doing drugs, reckless driving, etc 4. The video of her showing up to my house high How do I proceed from here? I am worried that she will call the police and this will destroy my career. I am already getting hate mail.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Looks like you about to get full custody :)", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[MI] My ex and I came to an agreement for me to keep my son for a week, she disappeared for 3 weeks, and is now saying I kidnapped him. I have had my son since the 20th of January. BM was supposed to pick him up the 27th of January, she did not pick him up. I texted her and she said “I’ll be back eventually”. During her time away she was doing hardcore drugs, driving reckless, and partying(she posted these things online). She showed up at my door yesterday, no car, barely any clothes, and obviously still high on something, wanting our son. I refused to give him to her and called her parents to take her home. Today she is now posting that I kidnapped our son, she didn’t know where he was, and that I’m abusing him. Absolutely none of this is true, she has not even tried to come get him today. I have cameras in front of my house and can prove that. What I have: 1. Screenshots of every text message between me and my ex agreeing to me having him for a week, her saying she’d be back eventually, and my “where are yous?” during these 3 weeks, 2. Phone call recordings of me and her parents talking about her showing up to my house high 3. Screen recordings of her doing drugs, reckless driving, etc 4. The video of her showing up to my house high How do I proceed from here? I am worried that she will call the police and this will destroy my career. I am already getting hate mail.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "I'm in a family of CPS workers. They see this all the time. There might be a court battle but in the end you will get full custody of this child. Which also means she will be required to pay you child support. What you need to do is get a lawyer that helps you. If she shows up high or drunk, call the police. If she abandons the child with you again, call both the police and CPS to get it documented. I'm talking immediately, *at most* you wait one hour after the mutually agreed pick-up time. Not days. You want her abandonment documented and you want it formally decided that you get to take care of the child in the meantime.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "(FL) I sponsor in Alcoholics Anonymous and heard a fifth-step inventory today where a woman told me that she sent her ex-boyfriend to prison by lying and saying that he molested her child. I clearly asked her if she was going to rectify this situation as part of her recovery and she basically said No, that he deserved it; that she was including this so that she didn't have to feel guilty about it. She didn't feel guilty, she was quite smug. I played along and asked her a few questions about the situation. Poor bastard. Later this evening we were both outside of a meeting and talking with a mutual friend. I started to complain about my ex-boyfriend, saying what a jerk he was. Then I teasingly said that she had gotten back at her ex so good that she sent him to prison over some bullshit lie, and she laughed and agreed! So basically I tricked her into admitting it in front of a second witness. What do I do now with this information? I'm assuming that I'm not obligated to keep this confidential. This might ostracize me from the fellowship, but I don't care; I was so utterly horrified by this. I don't know what this man's name is. It happened about a year ago apparently. I have really specific information- she used his phone to take pictures of the kid unbeknownst to him. He already had a criminal record but it wasn't for anything awful like this. What do I do? Also, I'm not quite sure if it happened in Florida or if this was before she moved here.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "> she used his phone to take pictures of the kid unbeknownst to him. Wait, what? So *she* has admitted to producing child pornography as well as falsifying an accusation?", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "(FL) I sponsor in Alcoholics Anonymous and heard a fifth-step inventory today where a woman told me that she sent her ex-boyfriend to prison by lying and saying that he molested her child. I clearly asked her if she was going to rectify this situation as part of her recovery and she basically said No, that he deserved it; that she was including this so that she didn't have to feel guilty about it. She didn't feel guilty, she was quite smug. I played along and asked her a few questions about the situation. Poor bastard. Later this evening we were both outside of a meeting and talking with a mutual friend. I started to complain about my ex-boyfriend, saying what a jerk he was. Then I teasingly said that she had gotten back at her ex so good that she sent him to prison over some bullshit lie, and she laughed and agreed! So basically I tricked her into admitting it in front of a second witness. What do I do now with this information? I'm assuming that I'm not obligated to keep this confidential. This might ostracize me from the fellowship, but I don't care; I was so utterly horrified by this. I don't know what this man's name is. It happened about a year ago apparently. I have really specific information- she used his phone to take pictures of the kid unbeknownst to him. He already had a criminal record but it wasn't for anything awful like this. What do I do? Also, I'm not quite sure if it happened in Florida or if this was before she moved here.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "I'm in AA, 2.5 years sober. You are a drunk talking to another drunk. You are not a therapist or a priest. You 1000000000% are not obligated to keep this confidential. You keep things confidential to a point - accusing someone of being a child molester is past that point. Also, child molesters have the WORST of the ABSOLUTE WORST treatment in prison, both from other inmates or staff. The excuse \"my ex framed me\" is a pretty typical justification, which means it is not believed. Also to the person who said you would not be allowed to sponsor.. that's complete bullshit. Once again, there's a line to AA confidentiality.. i can't think of ANYONE in my (very big) circle/network of AA friends who would look down upon you/think badly of you, and also.. AA cannot decide who can and cannot sponsor. You could have 30 years of continuous sobriety and I had 10 minutes and I could still sponsor you. Also, what the everliving fuck is she going to do when she gets to step 9? \"Made a direct amends to such people wherever possible\" THIS IS POSSIBLE FOR HER AND SHE SAID SHE'S NOT GOING TO DO IT. If you get shit in your homegroup/local AA meetings, fucking sprint to find a new one.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "(FL) I sponsor in Alcoholics Anonymous and heard a fifth-step inventory today where a woman told me that she sent her ex-boyfriend to prison by lying and saying that he molested her child. I clearly asked her if she was going to rectify this situation as part of her recovery and she basically said No, that he deserved it; that she was including this so that she didn't have to feel guilty about it. She didn't feel guilty, she was quite smug. I played along and asked her a few questions about the situation. Poor bastard. Later this evening we were both outside of a meeting and talking with a mutual friend. I started to complain about my ex-boyfriend, saying what a jerk he was. Then I teasingly said that she had gotten back at her ex so good that she sent him to prison over some bullshit lie, and she laughed and agreed! So basically I tricked her into admitting it in front of a second witness. What do I do now with this information? I'm assuming that I'm not obligated to keep this confidential. This might ostracize me from the fellowship, but I don't care; I was so utterly horrified by this. I don't know what this man's name is. It happened about a year ago apparently. I have really specific information- she used his phone to take pictures of the kid unbeknownst to him. He already had a criminal record but it wasn't for anything awful like this. What do I do? Also, I'm not quite sure if it happened in Florida or if this was before she moved here.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "AA will likely no longer allow you to sponsor after this, they take the confidentiality part pretty seriously. That said, AA has no legal protection of actual confidentiality like client-attorney privilege. You think this is bad? The Innocence Project had a case where murders occurred and the police thought there were multiple murderers. In fact, there was only one. The murderer made a plea deal to get life in prison instead of the death penalty in exchange for testifying against the innocent one. The innocent one was subsequently convicted. The murderer had bragged about doing this to his lawyer, and only his lawyer. Because of client-attorney privilege there was nothing the lawyer could do. Luckily, his client died after a decade, and notified the Innocence Project. The innocent was released after 13 years on death row. You have no legal requirement to go down this path. Don't let the eventual AA rejection get to you, this is the righteous course of action to get that evidence. There may enough evidence he is still convicted or not enough to even overturn the verdict. There is nothing you can do about that.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "(FL) I sponsor in Alcoholics Anonymous and heard a fifth-step inventory today where a woman told me that she sent her ex-boyfriend to prison by lying and saying that he molested her child. I clearly asked her if she was going to rectify this situation as part of her recovery and she basically said No, that he deserved it; that she was including this so that she didn't have to feel guilty about it. She didn't feel guilty, she was quite smug. I played along and asked her a few questions about the situation. Poor bastard. Later this evening we were both outside of a meeting and talking with a mutual friend. I started to complain about my ex-boyfriend, saying what a jerk he was. Then I teasingly said that she had gotten back at her ex so good that she sent him to prison over some bullshit lie, and she laughed and agreed! So basically I tricked her into admitting it in front of a second witness. What do I do now with this information? I'm assuming that I'm not obligated to keep this confidential. This might ostracize me from the fellowship, but I don't care; I was so utterly horrified by this. I don't know what this man's name is. It happened about a year ago apparently. I have really specific information- she used his phone to take pictures of the kid unbeknownst to him. He already had a criminal record but it wasn't for anything awful like this. What do I do? Also, I'm not quite sure if it happened in Florida or if this was before she moved here.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "I'm in AA, 2.5 years sober. You are a drunk talking to another drunk. You are not a therapist or a priest. You 1000000000% are not obligated to keep this confidential. You keep things confidential to a point - accusing someone of being a child molester is past that point. Also, child molesters have the WORST of the ABSOLUTE WORST treatment in prison, both from other inmates or staff. The excuse \"my ex framed me\" is a pretty typical justification, which means it is not believed. Also to the person who said you would not be allowed to sponsor.. that's complete bullshit. Once again, there's a line to AA confidentiality.. i can't think of ANYONE in my (very big) circle/network of AA friends who would look down upon you/think badly of you, and also.. AA cannot decide who can and cannot sponsor. You could have 30 years of continuous sobriety and I had 10 minutes and I could still sponsor you. Also, what the everliving fuck is she going to do when she gets to step 9? \"Made a direct amends to such people wherever possible\" THIS IS POSSIBLE FOR HER AND SHE SAID SHE'S NOT GOING TO DO IT. If you get shit in your homegroup/local AA meetings, fucking sprint to find a new one.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "(FL) I sponsor in Alcoholics Anonymous and heard a fifth-step inventory today where a woman told me that she sent her ex-boyfriend to prison by lying and saying that he molested her child. I clearly asked her if she was going to rectify this situation as part of her recovery and she basically said No, that he deserved it; that she was including this so that she didn't have to feel guilty about it. She didn't feel guilty, she was quite smug. I played along and asked her a few questions about the situation. Poor bastard. Later this evening we were both outside of a meeting and talking with a mutual friend. I started to complain about my ex-boyfriend, saying what a jerk he was. Then I teasingly said that she had gotten back at her ex so good that she sent him to prison over some bullshit lie, and she laughed and agreed! So basically I tricked her into admitting it in front of a second witness. What do I do now with this information? I'm assuming that I'm not obligated to keep this confidential. This might ostracize me from the fellowship, but I don't care; I was so utterly horrified by this. I don't know what this man's name is. It happened about a year ago apparently. I have really specific information- she used his phone to take pictures of the kid unbeknownst to him. He already had a criminal record but it wasn't for anything awful like this. What do I do? Also, I'm not quite sure if it happened in Florida or if this was before she moved here.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Yes, write it down, date, times, names. Our former FBI director makes a good case on the importance of keeping notes. It does carry weight.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "(FL) I sponsor in Alcoholics Anonymous and heard a fifth-step inventory today where a woman told me that she sent her ex-boyfriend to prison by lying and saying that he molested her child. I clearly asked her if she was going to rectify this situation as part of her recovery and she basically said No, that he deserved it; that she was including this so that she didn't have to feel guilty about it. She didn't feel guilty, she was quite smug. I played along and asked her a few questions about the situation. Poor bastard. Later this evening we were both outside of a meeting and talking with a mutual friend. I started to complain about my ex-boyfriend, saying what a jerk he was. Then I teasingly said that she had gotten back at her ex so good that she sent him to prison over some bullshit lie, and she laughed and agreed! So basically I tricked her into admitting it in front of a second witness. What do I do now with this information? I'm assuming that I'm not obligated to keep this confidential. This might ostracize me from the fellowship, but I don't care; I was so utterly horrified by this. I don't know what this man's name is. It happened about a year ago apparently. I have really specific information- she used his phone to take pictures of the kid unbeknownst to him. He already had a criminal record but it wasn't for anything awful like this. What do I do? Also, I'm not quite sure if it happened in Florida or if this was before she moved here.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "I'm in AA, 2.5 years sober. You are a drunk talking to another drunk. You are not a therapist or a priest. You 1000000000% are not obligated to keep this confidential. You keep things confidential to a point - accusing someone of being a child molester is past that point. Also, child molesters have the WORST of the ABSOLUTE WORST treatment in prison, both from other inmates or staff. The excuse \"my ex framed me\" is a pretty typical justification, which means it is not believed. Also to the person who said you would not be allowed to sponsor.. that's complete bullshit. Once again, there's a line to AA confidentiality.. i can't think of ANYONE in my (very big) circle/network of AA friends who would look down upon you/think badly of you, and also.. AA cannot decide who can and cannot sponsor. You could have 30 years of continuous sobriety and I had 10 minutes and I could still sponsor you. Also, what the everliving fuck is she going to do when she gets to step 9? \"Made a direct amends to such people wherever possible\" THIS IS POSSIBLE FOR HER AND SHE SAID SHE'S NOT GOING TO DO IT. If you get shit in your homegroup/local AA meetings, fucking sprint to find a new one.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "(FL) I sponsor in Alcoholics Anonymous and heard a fifth-step inventory today where a woman told me that she sent her ex-boyfriend to prison by lying and saying that he molested her child. I clearly asked her if she was going to rectify this situation as part of her recovery and she basically said No, that he deserved it; that she was including this so that she didn't have to feel guilty about it. She didn't feel guilty, she was quite smug. I played along and asked her a few questions about the situation. Poor bastard. Later this evening we were both outside of a meeting and talking with a mutual friend. I started to complain about my ex-boyfriend, saying what a jerk he was. Then I teasingly said that she had gotten back at her ex so good that she sent him to prison over some bullshit lie, and she laughed and agreed! So basically I tricked her into admitting it in front of a second witness. What do I do now with this information? I'm assuming that I'm not obligated to keep this confidential. This might ostracize me from the fellowship, but I don't care; I was so utterly horrified by this. I don't know what this man's name is. It happened about a year ago apparently. I have really specific information- she used his phone to take pictures of the kid unbeknownst to him. He already had a criminal record but it wasn't for anything awful like this. What do I do? Also, I'm not quite sure if it happened in Florida or if this was before she moved here.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "AA will likely no longer allow you to sponsor after this, they take the confidentiality part pretty seriously. That said, AA has no legal protection of actual confidentiality like client-attorney privilege. You think this is bad? The Innocence Project had a case where murders occurred and the police thought there were multiple murderers. In fact, there was only one. The murderer made a plea deal to get life in prison instead of the death penalty in exchange for testifying against the innocent one. The innocent one was subsequently convicted. The murderer had bragged about doing this to his lawyer, and only his lawyer. Because of client-attorney privilege there was nothing the lawyer could do. Luckily, his client died after a decade, and notified the Innocence Project. The innocent was released after 13 years on death row. You have no legal requirement to go down this path. Don't let the eventual AA rejection get to you, this is the righteous course of action to get that evidence. There may enough evidence he is still convicted or not enough to even overturn the verdict. There is nothing you can do about that.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "(FL) I sponsor in Alcoholics Anonymous and heard a fifth-step inventory today where a woman told me that she sent her ex-boyfriend to prison by lying and saying that he molested her child. I clearly asked her if she was going to rectify this situation as part of her recovery and she basically said No, that he deserved it; that she was including this so that she didn't have to feel guilty about it. She didn't feel guilty, she was quite smug. I played along and asked her a few questions about the situation. Poor bastard. Later this evening we were both outside of a meeting and talking with a mutual friend. I started to complain about my ex-boyfriend, saying what a jerk he was. Then I teasingly said that she had gotten back at her ex so good that she sent him to prison over some bullshit lie, and she laughed and agreed! So basically I tricked her into admitting it in front of a second witness. What do I do now with this information? I'm assuming that I'm not obligated to keep this confidential. This might ostracize me from the fellowship, but I don't care; I was so utterly horrified by this. I don't know what this man's name is. It happened about a year ago apparently. I have really specific information- she used his phone to take pictures of the kid unbeknownst to him. He already had a criminal record but it wasn't for anything awful like this. What do I do? Also, I'm not quite sure if it happened in Florida or if this was before she moved here.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "> she used his phone to take pictures of the kid unbeknownst to him. Wait, what? So *she* has admitted to producing child pornography as well as falsifying an accusation?", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "(FL) I sponsor in Alcoholics Anonymous and heard a fifth-step inventory today where a woman told me that she sent her ex-boyfriend to prison by lying and saying that he molested her child. I clearly asked her if she was going to rectify this situation as part of her recovery and she basically said No, that he deserved it; that she was including this so that she didn't have to feel guilty about it. She didn't feel guilty, she was quite smug. I played along and asked her a few questions about the situation. Poor bastard. Later this evening we were both outside of a meeting and talking with a mutual friend. I started to complain about my ex-boyfriend, saying what a jerk he was. Then I teasingly said that she had gotten back at her ex so good that she sent him to prison over some bullshit lie, and she laughed and agreed! So basically I tricked her into admitting it in front of a second witness. What do I do now with this information? I'm assuming that I'm not obligated to keep this confidential. This might ostracize me from the fellowship, but I don't care; I was so utterly horrified by this. I don't know what this man's name is. It happened about a year ago apparently. I have really specific information- she used his phone to take pictures of the kid unbeknownst to him. He already had a criminal record but it wasn't for anything awful like this. What do I do? Also, I'm not quite sure if it happened in Florida or if this was before she moved here.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Yes, write it down, date, times, names. Our former FBI director makes a good case on the importance of keeping notes. It does carry weight.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "(FL) I sponsor in Alcoholics Anonymous and heard a fifth-step inventory today where a woman told me that she sent her ex-boyfriend to prison by lying and saying that he molested her child. I clearly asked her if she was going to rectify this situation as part of her recovery and she basically said No, that he deserved it; that she was including this so that she didn't have to feel guilty about it. She didn't feel guilty, she was quite smug. I played along and asked her a few questions about the situation. Poor bastard. Later this evening we were both outside of a meeting and talking with a mutual friend. I started to complain about my ex-boyfriend, saying what a jerk he was. Then I teasingly said that she had gotten back at her ex so good that she sent him to prison over some bullshit lie, and she laughed and agreed! So basically I tricked her into admitting it in front of a second witness. What do I do now with this information? I'm assuming that I'm not obligated to keep this confidential. This might ostracize me from the fellowship, but I don't care; I was so utterly horrified by this. I don't know what this man's name is. It happened about a year ago apparently. I have really specific information- she used his phone to take pictures of the kid unbeknownst to him. He already had a criminal record but it wasn't for anything awful like this. What do I do? Also, I'm not quite sure if it happened in Florida or if this was before she moved here.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "> she used his phone to take pictures of the kid unbeknownst to him. Wait, what? So *she* has admitted to producing child pornography as well as falsifying an accusation?", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Divorced a year, my ex-wife is getting daughter for the week of Christmas to spend with her and her boyfriend (who my daughter shouldn't be around) I was divorced a year ago, been separated for three. It was brutal; she cheated on me with three different men, start abusing prescription pain killers with her latest boyfriend and had me put in jail for a week for a crime I didn't commit. After an outrageous amount of money payed to a lawyer and a private investigator, I'm free and clear of any criminal charges and have primary physical custody of my 6 year old autistic daughter. Her mom gets her alternating weekends and holidays. Keeping it short, our agreement states that my ex needs to pay for half of our daughter's medical expenses and that our daughter is to have absolutely no contact whatsoever with her latest boyfriend. My ex lies to me and says that she isn't seeing him, even going so far as fabricating another man's name to throw me off. I've hired a PI again who got evidence that the man was with my ex while she had our daughter for the weekend, and I've got a print off of the guys facebook page showing the two of them together and in a relationship and that he lives there. Thats on top of the fact that she pays almost nothing regarding her medical bills (I haven't seen any money in two months). I've just dropped my daughter off to be with her mom for Christmas for five days. This is the first I've been away. I'm nauseated that I'm dropping her off to spend time with the this scum-bag degenerate druggy and my sociopath ex. How to I get through this, reddit. I feel prepared to go back to family court to address these issues, I can't live with myself knowing I stood by and watched the worst human I've ever met become a permanent fixture in my daughter's life. This is VA, by the way. --- **tl;dr**: Ex-wife lives with scumbag who she legally shouldn't be with, and is now getting common daughter for christmas.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Unless the court order says he cannot be around her, or he is a registered sex offender then legally he can be around her. If you have evidence that he abused your child then you can file to modify the court order or possibly a restraining order.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Divorced a year, my ex-wife is getting daughter for the week of Christmas to spend with her and her boyfriend (who my daughter shouldn't be around) I was divorced a year ago, been separated for three. It was brutal; she cheated on me with three different men, start abusing prescription pain killers with her latest boyfriend and had me put in jail for a week for a crime I didn't commit. After an outrageous amount of money payed to a lawyer and a private investigator, I'm free and clear of any criminal charges and have primary physical custody of my 6 year old autistic daughter. Her mom gets her alternating weekends and holidays. Keeping it short, our agreement states that my ex needs to pay for half of our daughter's medical expenses and that our daughter is to have absolutely no contact whatsoever with her latest boyfriend. My ex lies to me and says that she isn't seeing him, even going so far as fabricating another man's name to throw me off. I've hired a PI again who got evidence that the man was with my ex while she had our daughter for the weekend, and I've got a print off of the guys facebook page showing the two of them together and in a relationship and that he lives there. Thats on top of the fact that she pays almost nothing regarding her medical bills (I haven't seen any money in two months). I've just dropped my daughter off to be with her mom for Christmas for five days. This is the first I've been away. I'm nauseated that I'm dropping her off to spend time with the this scum-bag degenerate druggy and my sociopath ex. How to I get through this, reddit. I feel prepared to go back to family court to address these issues, I can't live with myself knowing I stood by and watched the worst human I've ever met become a permanent fixture in my daughter's life. This is VA, by the way. --- **tl;dr**: Ex-wife lives with scumbag who she legally shouldn't be with, and is now getting common daughter for christmas.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Can you file to terminate her visitation rights? Or at least make it supervised? EDIT -- not sure why I am being downvoted. This is a valid step he can take.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "[California] My girlfriend's ex sending out her nudes (of when she was underage) to her parents and harasses her, but now lives out of state, can anything be done? The title pretty much sums it up, I'm just curious if any legal action can be taken against this guy. He is apparently homeless and just mooches off of friends and will jump from state to state. She says theres nothing the police can do about him but I'm getting really sick of this constant harassment and wonder if there is any way to take legal action against this guy? He just recently sent her underage nudes to her mom which would be enough proof of the child pornography part, but he has constantly harassed her for the past two years since they have broken up. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Everyone needs to go to the police together and file a police report. You may also want to contact the police in the state that he is currently in, if you know.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[California] My girlfriend's ex sending out her nudes (of when she was underage) to her parents and harasses her, but now lives out of state, can anything be done? The title pretty much sums it up, I'm just curious if any legal action can be taken against this guy. He is apparently homeless and just mooches off of friends and will jump from state to state. She says theres nothing the police can do about him but I'm getting really sick of this constant harassment and wonder if there is any way to take legal action against this guy? He just recently sent her underage nudes to her mom which would be enough proof of the child pornography part, but he has constantly harassed her for the past two years since they have broken up. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Wait, did you say he's distributing child pornography across state lines?", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Dallas, TX - I am living with a now ex girlfriend (off the lease), can she legally take all my belongings and throw them away because they are in her apartment? She assaulted me last night, and was threatening to hurt herself, so I called the cops. They told me to find another place to stay, so I did. They arrested her, and now her dad is driving down here, and says that if I don't have all my things out by 5 pm, he's going to throw them in the dumpster. Doesn't sound legal to me. What statutes, precedents, etc can I hold up printed copies of and (hopefully) convince him not to do that? Or should I just pack as much as I can and gtfo", "role": "user" }, { "content": "How long were you living in the home before this all happened?", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Dallas, TX - I am living with a now ex girlfriend (off the lease), can she legally take all my belongings and throw them away because they are in her apartment? She assaulted me last night, and was threatening to hurt herself, so I called the cops. They told me to find another place to stay, so I did. They arrested her, and now her dad is driving down here, and says that if I don't have all my things out by 5 pm, he's going to throw them in the dumpster. Doesn't sound legal to me. What statutes, precedents, etc can I hold up printed copies of and (hopefully) convince him not to do that? Or should I just pack as much as I can and gtfo", "role": "user" }, { "content": "You don't have to leave the apartment until a court orders you to. In fact, if she assaulted you, there's an excellent chance that one of her bail conditions is going to be that she has to stay away from you and/or the apartment. If you don't want to leave, simply go home. It's your home, you live there, and until you leave voluntarily or are evicted by a court, it will remain your home. You do not have to let her father inside at all, and if he shows up without his daughter, you're free to call the police if he refuses to leave. If your ex has been bailed out of jail, call whatever jail/court she's dealing with and find out if a restraining order is in place and if that means she can't come home. Calling the arresting officer might get results for you too.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Dallas, TX - I am living with a now ex girlfriend (off the lease), can she legally take all my belongings and throw them away because they are in her apartment? She assaulted me last night, and was threatening to hurt herself, so I called the cops. They told me to find another place to stay, so I did. They arrested her, and now her dad is driving down here, and says that if I don't have all my things out by 5 pm, he's going to throw them in the dumpster. Doesn't sound legal to me. What statutes, precedents, etc can I hold up printed copies of and (hopefully) convince him not to do that? Or should I just pack as much as I can and gtfo", "role": "user" }, { "content": "How long were you living in the home before this all happened?", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Dallas, TX - I am living with a now ex girlfriend (off the lease), can she legally take all my belongings and throw them away because they are in her apartment? She assaulted me last night, and was threatening to hurt herself, so I called the cops. They told me to find another place to stay, so I did. They arrested her, and now her dad is driving down here, and says that if I don't have all my things out by 5 pm, he's going to throw them in the dumpster. Doesn't sound legal to me. What statutes, precedents, etc can I hold up printed copies of and (hopefully) convince him not to do that? Or should I just pack as much as I can and gtfo", "role": "user" }, { "content": "That'd be, hands down, theft of property. However, that doesn't stop a vengeful dad from throwing your stuff away. Dad's are crazy sometimes. I figure, you're legally safe, but is it worth all the effort you'll have to go through if they do decide to break the law? Edit: You're living with your ex, so I'm assuming your relationship is relatively sound (minus the recent happenings), so maybe she can calm her dad down? Or is the \"ex\" as result of this happening?", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Can i (a minor 17) press charges on my moms abusive boyfriend if my mom refuses to? Earlier tonight i was lying on my couch and i head my mom scream from her room so i ran in to see her boyfriend on top of her with his hand around her neck. He got off and left as soon as i came in. i let him walk away while i talked to my mom to figure out exactly what happened and she told me that he got pissed after she refused to let him look at her phone i told her she needed to call the police but she said she wouldnt becuase 1. She didnt want my sibling to get involved and 2. She didnt want him getting in trouble. This isnt the first time this has happend ive had to detain him before but was able to do so fairly easily because im alot stronger than he is however this time he came back in from the house with a glock and cocked it on his way to his room while everyone else was eating dinner for all my strength im no match for a gun and im genuinely scared for the first time since i was a small child i told my mom i wouldnt do anything at least until Tomorrow when my younger sibling leave to go visit our biological father but that was before the gun should i disregard our agreement and call the police? And can they even do anything about it if i did call them?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "You can always keep a record (photos videos audio depending on your states consent laws) and always report to the police as another poster said now that there is a firearm on the property the police will take it more seriously. You can also contact domestic abuse lines or outreach in your area they can help you as well and reach out to CPS or to a children's domestic abuse line as well. Edit Not a lawyer", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Can i (a minor 17) press charges on my moms abusive boyfriend if my mom refuses to? Earlier tonight i was lying on my couch and i head my mom scream from her room so i ran in to see her boyfriend on top of her with his hand around her neck. He got off and left as soon as i came in. i let him walk away while i talked to my mom to figure out exactly what happened and she told me that he got pissed after she refused to let him look at her phone i told her she needed to call the police but she said she wouldnt becuase 1. She didnt want my sibling to get involved and 2. She didnt want him getting in trouble. This isnt the first time this has happend ive had to detain him before but was able to do so fairly easily because im alot stronger than he is however this time he came back in from the house with a glock and cocked it on his way to his room while everyone else was eating dinner for all my strength im no match for a gun and im genuinely scared for the first time since i was a small child i told my mom i wouldnt do anything at least until Tomorrow when my younger sibling leave to go visit our biological father but that was before the gun should i disregard our agreement and call the police? And can they even do anything about it if i did call them?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "If you haven't called the police yet, do it now. This isn't a legal advice situation, this is a \"you, your sibling, and your mother are in danger of being murdered\" situation. Full stop. Call CPS as well", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Can i (a minor 17) press charges on my moms abusive boyfriend if my mom refuses to? Earlier tonight i was lying on my couch and i head my mom scream from her room so i ran in to see her boyfriend on top of her with his hand around her neck. He got off and left as soon as i came in. i let him walk away while i talked to my mom to figure out exactly what happened and she told me that he got pissed after she refused to let him look at her phone i told her she needed to call the police but she said she wouldnt becuase 1. She didnt want my sibling to get involved and 2. She didnt want him getting in trouble. This isnt the first time this has happend ive had to detain him before but was able to do so fairly easily because im alot stronger than he is however this time he came back in from the house with a glock and cocked it on his way to his room while everyone else was eating dinner for all my strength im no match for a gun and im genuinely scared for the first time since i was a small child i told my mom i wouldnt do anything at least until Tomorrow when my younger sibling leave to go visit our biological father but that was before the gun should i disregard our agreement and call the police? And can they even do anything about it if i did call them?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Call the police ASAP. Tell them you witnessed the boyfriend showing aggressive behavior, and that you saw him lay hands on your mom. And most importantly, tell them he just took out a gun. Keep your brother in a separate room, or with a neighbor, just away from the boyfriend when you do this. When you make the call, tell them your mom might lie for him.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Can i (a minor 17) press charges on my moms abusive boyfriend if my mom refuses to? Earlier tonight i was lying on my couch and i head my mom scream from her room so i ran in to see her boyfriend on top of her with his hand around her neck. He got off and left as soon as i came in. i let him walk away while i talked to my mom to figure out exactly what happened and she told me that he got pissed after she refused to let him look at her phone i told her she needed to call the police but she said she wouldnt becuase 1. She didnt want my sibling to get involved and 2. She didnt want him getting in trouble. This isnt the first time this has happend ive had to detain him before but was able to do so fairly easily because im alot stronger than he is however this time he came back in from the house with a glock and cocked it on his way to his room while everyone else was eating dinner for all my strength im no match for a gun and im genuinely scared for the first time since i was a small child i told my mom i wouldnt do anything at least until Tomorrow when my younger sibling leave to go visit our biological father but that was before the gun should i disregard our agreement and call the police? And can they even do anything about it if i did call them?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "If you haven't called the police yet, do it now. This isn't a legal advice situation, this is a \"you, your sibling, and your mother are in danger of being murdered\" situation. Full stop. Call CPS as well", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "My parents kicked me out but used my info for rental assistance? Is this fraud? Hi im. A 22 year old male. My mom had kicked me out at the beginning of 2022 and I was told to live with my dad. I tried to apply for rental assistance and was told I was supposed to be at my moms address from our states rental assistance program. Since then I still haven’t lived there and I know that at least from January to June my information was being used. Is this considered fraud? And if I wanted to take legal action how could I?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Yes. That is blatant fraud. If you want to take legal action, have a chat with a lawyer, many do free consultations, and they will tell you every step that needs to be taken. Some lawyers even do flat rates for stuff that can be taken care of easily.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "My parents kicked me out but used my info for rental assistance? Is this fraud? Hi im. A 22 year old male. My mom had kicked me out at the beginning of 2022 and I was told to live with my dad. I tried to apply for rental assistance and was told I was supposed to be at my moms address from our states rental assistance program. Since then I still haven’t lived there and I know that at least from January to June my information was being used. Is this considered fraud? And if I wanted to take legal action how could I?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "You can also call the state housing dept that provides the assistance and report it, they will also go after people who fraudulently claim benefits.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "My parents kicked me out but used my info for rental assistance? Is this fraud? Hi im. A 22 year old male. My mom had kicked me out at the beginning of 2022 and I was told to live with my dad. I tried to apply for rental assistance and was told I was supposed to be at my moms address from our states rental assistance program. Since then I still haven’t lived there and I know that at least from January to June my information was being used. Is this considered fraud? And if I wanted to take legal action how could I?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "You would not take any action. The state is the injured party in this case.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "My parents kicked me out but used my info for rental assistance? Is this fraud? Hi im. A 22 year old male. My mom had kicked me out at the beginning of 2022 and I was told to live with my dad. I tried to apply for rental assistance and was told I was supposed to be at my moms address from our states rental assistance program. Since then I still haven’t lived there and I know that at least from January to June my information was being used. Is this considered fraud? And if I wanted to take legal action how could I?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "I am not a lawyer but I work for my local housing authority. Depending on what type of rental assistance she is on, you should seek out the office that is supplying her with the assistance. Give them her name, your name, and let them know you do not live there and need to be removed from her case. She should have a case worker or case manager of some sort.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "My parents kicked me out but used my info for rental assistance? Is this fraud? Hi im. A 22 year old male. My mom had kicked me out at the beginning of 2022 and I was told to live with my dad. I tried to apply for rental assistance and was told I was supposed to be at my moms address from our states rental assistance program. Since then I still haven’t lived there and I know that at least from January to June my information was being used. Is this considered fraud? And if I wanted to take legal action how could I?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Not a lawyer, definitely fraud but you wouldn’t gain much if anything by taking legal action. You can report it and have the government take action and get back what you missed out on which may or may not be worth the trouble. I would call her and let her know to stop so you can appropriately get it before taking legal action, just me though.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "My parents kicked me out but used my info for rental assistance? Is this fraud? Hi im. A 22 year old male. My mom had kicked me out at the beginning of 2022 and I was told to live with my dad. I tried to apply for rental assistance and was told I was supposed to be at my moms address from our states rental assistance program. Since then I still haven’t lived there and I know that at least from January to June my information was being used. Is this considered fraud? And if I wanted to take legal action how could I?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "I am not a lawyer but I work for my local housing authority. Depending on what type of rental assistance she is on, you should seek out the office that is supplying her with the assistance. Give them her name, your name, and let them know you do not live there and need to be removed from her case. She should have a case worker or case manager of some sort.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "My parents kicked me out but used my info for rental assistance? Is this fraud? Hi im. A 22 year old male. My mom had kicked me out at the beginning of 2022 and I was told to live with my dad. I tried to apply for rental assistance and was told I was supposed to be at my moms address from our states rental assistance program. Since then I still haven’t lived there and I know that at least from January to June my information was being used. Is this considered fraud? And if I wanted to take legal action how could I?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "You would not take any action. The state is the injured party in this case.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "My parents kicked me out but used my info for rental assistance? Is this fraud? Hi im. A 22 year old male. My mom had kicked me out at the beginning of 2022 and I was told to live with my dad. I tried to apply for rental assistance and was told I was supposed to be at my moms address from our states rental assistance program. Since then I still haven’t lived there and I know that at least from January to June my information was being used. Is this considered fraud? And if I wanted to take legal action how could I?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "It’s fraud but not fraud against you. Just keep pressing the issue with the government agency you are trying to get rental assistance from. They need to take you off her claim so you can put one in for yourself. It’s their call if they want to pursue charges against your mother.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "My parents kicked me out but used my info for rental assistance? Is this fraud? Hi im. A 22 year old male. My mom had kicked me out at the beginning of 2022 and I was told to live with my dad. I tried to apply for rental assistance and was told I was supposed to be at my moms address from our states rental assistance program. Since then I still haven’t lived there and I know that at least from January to June my information was being used. Is this considered fraud? And if I wanted to take legal action how could I?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Not a lawyer, definitely fraud but you wouldn’t gain much if anything by taking legal action. You can report it and have the government take action and get back what you missed out on which may or may not be worth the trouble. I would call her and let her know to stop so you can appropriately get it before taking legal action, just me though.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "My parents kicked me out but used my info for rental assistance? Is this fraud? Hi im. A 22 year old male. My mom had kicked me out at the beginning of 2022 and I was told to live with my dad. I tried to apply for rental assistance and was told I was supposed to be at my moms address from our states rental assistance program. Since then I still haven’t lived there and I know that at least from January to June my information was being used. Is this considered fraud? And if I wanted to take legal action how could I?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "It’s fraud but not fraud against you. Just keep pressing the issue with the government agency you are trying to get rental assistance from. They need to take you off her claim so you can put one in for yourself. It’s their call if they want to pursue charges against your mother.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "[Florida] I found out that my younger sister was sent away to a religious camp for her sexuality by my evangelical parents, who lied and took money from me (I believe) to fund it. I am furious. I posted this in r/relationships but I was told to post here. I live in Florida and so do my parents. This rest of this is a direct copy paste of what I posted there. I posted a thing here a two years ago that helped me with an uncomfortable situation involving a boss at work and it helped me save a good friendship and my job, so hopefully you guys can help me again with a much much more serious situation. I didn't remember that account so I made a new one. I need to give a little background to explain the situation. This will probably be long. I'm shitty at writing so please bare with me. I work as a computer engineer and live away from my parents. I moved out when I was 18, not because we had a particularly distant relationship, but because I was very hungry for independence and I didn't want to go to college like they wanted me to. I fell in love with programming and got a job a month after I graduated, and I've done that since. I am extremely frugal, and I now make about 70k a year after taxes (go mr. money mustache). Both my parents are in traditional white collar jobs that make significantly more money than I do, and they are horrific with money. When I was growing up my parents were semi-religious (church on easter and christmas type of deal) and not particularly invested in it or politics. Somewhere in the last three or four years they became interested in it, and in the last year in particular (regarding the last elecion especially) they have become some of the most religious and overfocused political people i've ever seen. I have tried distancing myself from this by refusing to talk about these issues over the phone at all. I could not disagree more with them. I think they have some very hateful views, but I've chosen not to engage them on it. Growing up I was not close to my younger sister, mainly because of our age gap. However she has grown up and is very pleasant to speak to. We have spoken on the phone daily (I speak to mom and dad much less frequently) since she was around 14. I have not been exposed to to much of this because I intentionally tell both sides I don't want to talk about their drama (although I am generally clear with my sister that I agree with her, but I don't want to badmouth her parents). My sister is a lesbian, which I have no issue with whatsoever, and my parents do not (or did not) know and would immediately be against. We talked about this a quite often. My sister also has political views completely at odd with my parents (she was in trouble for not supporting their favorite political candidate, you can probably guess who) but I encouraged her to swallow it and suck it up at home for her safety and sanity. She mentioned a few times in the last two months about wanting to come out to them and I highly highly discouraged it. I have heard both of my parents approve of a pastor who disowned his gay son and similar stories. I didn't want them to do that to her. I have offered to let her live with me when she turns 18 but imagined that being in the future. I made her promise not to do that and she did. On her 16th birthday, she came out to them. I was a little angry with her over the phone (I didn't curse or scream or anything, but I was annoyed, but with sympathy for her position. I did chide her a bit, which I acknowledge was dumb.) She was extremely mad at me and didn't call me for four days, which was a long time for us not to speak. We spoke afterwards and I was much better, but things weren't going well. They didn't kick her out but weren't speaking to her at all. Literally she was screaming at them and they just quietly went into their rooms, not saying a word. I offered to speak to them for her and she begged me not to, so I did not, against my better judgement. My Dad, a week later, called me over the phone. He said that he was sick and needed emergency money to have a procedure He begged me \"not to tell\" mom or my sister. He needed about 20 grand. I had refused them money in the past for a car loan and made it clear that I wasn't giving them money, but I did for this, cautious but ultimately trusting him not to lie about his own potential death. I disagreed with him about a lot of things but he had always been so steadfast about the importance of honesty the thought of him lying about something like that seemed ridiculous and I felt guilty for even thinking that. About another week after that, my sister stopped calling me. I thought she was mad again for some reason but she didn't answer at all. I was worried. I called my parents and asked about her after about a week and they said she was being moody (I thought they thought I didn't know about her sexuality or what was going on). I checked my Facebook that night and I read an days old message from one of her friends that explained that she had been trying to reach me and that my sister was taken from her house into a van and driven off by men in a program with her and my parents there before kicking the friend out of the house. Her friend visited my parents house several times and they eventually told her they sent her to a religious program. She didn't get the name. I called up my father, and he denied it twice before admitting it after a long talk. I was so angry. They seriously have these religious camps that parents can send teens to anytime without committing a crime forever. I didn't think it had anything to do with the money, but I looked it up after that and found out that these programs are generally very expensive. I called him up again and he admitted that's where the money went. I demanded that he let her out and he told me it was his money. I told him I'd never speak to him again and he just ignored me. I try calling him up every few hours for the last several days when I found out and they ignore almost all of my calls. He intentionally didn't tell me the name of the facility or camp, but I've done reading and these are almost always dangerous places. I don't even know if she is in the US anymore. People die and get brainwashed at these places. I feel so guilty for giving them the ability to do this. I don't know the name of the camp, and I did technically give them the money. My only recourse at this point is to go tell everyone in their neighborhood what they did. I saw a facebook post they made about sending my sister to a snooty christian boarding school and that is NOT what they did. I called the school they posted and she isn't going there. They are very connected to the church/suburban town community and I think it would threaten them to have their image splattered with the truth. I would completely disown them now if it wouldn't completely destroy my chances of getting her out. I am at a loss. Please help me. tl;dr: My parents lied to me and took money claiming it was for an illness only to turn around and use it to send my sister to a camp because she came out. They are ignoring my calls. I don't have any legal grounds (i think) and I do not know how to convince them to let her out.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "This is very, very difficult. Under the law in most of the US (most of the world), parents have a right to decide how to raise their minor children. There are some facilities for brainwashing people out of being gay which are so horrific that I have little better terms to describe them other than torture. In fact, a couple of US states have actually passed laws against these places, but that doesn't help much because parents have a right to send their children to someplace else that doesn't have such a restriction. There is very little you can do about it, legally. On the other hand, there *IS* a major legal issue where you DO have leverage. From your description, it sounds like there is a plausible argument that your father committed fraud to scam you out of $20,000. If you pursued this, there is a decent chance that you could get law enforcement involved and it is not impossible that your father could be convicted of a felony for such a fraud. You certainly could sue to get the money back, and could probably get a judgment to garnish his wages, seize his bank accounts, and so forth until you had been repaid. The most obvious thing to do would be: \"*Dad: pull my sister out of that program and either let her live with you unmolested or else send her to live with me -- if you don't, then I'll press charges and get you thrown in prison for fraud.*\" **Don't do that, because that would be blackmail.** At least, I think it would, depending on the exact wording. With a very careful approach it may be possible (depending on the exact details of the laws on blackmail in your state, which I do not know well enough to advise you on) to get that same message across without actually committing blackmail. If I were to do such a thing I would probably find a lawyer who could help me figure out how to use this without committing a felony of your own. Because if I understand you correctly, you are not happy about the $20,000 but your REAL concern is for your sister. My heart goes out to you (and her) and I wish you the best of fortune and a successful outcome.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[Florida] I found out that my younger sister was sent away to a religious camp for her sexuality by my evangelical parents, who lied and took money from me (I believe) to fund it. I am furious. I posted this in r/relationships but I was told to post here. I live in Florida and so do my parents. This rest of this is a direct copy paste of what I posted there. I posted a thing here a two years ago that helped me with an uncomfortable situation involving a boss at work and it helped me save a good friendship and my job, so hopefully you guys can help me again with a much much more serious situation. I didn't remember that account so I made a new one. I need to give a little background to explain the situation. This will probably be long. I'm shitty at writing so please bare with me. I work as a computer engineer and live away from my parents. I moved out when I was 18, not because we had a particularly distant relationship, but because I was very hungry for independence and I didn't want to go to college like they wanted me to. I fell in love with programming and got a job a month after I graduated, and I've done that since. I am extremely frugal, and I now make about 70k a year after taxes (go mr. money mustache). Both my parents are in traditional white collar jobs that make significantly more money than I do, and they are horrific with money. When I was growing up my parents were semi-religious (church on easter and christmas type of deal) and not particularly invested in it or politics. Somewhere in the last three or four years they became interested in it, and in the last year in particular (regarding the last elecion especially) they have become some of the most religious and overfocused political people i've ever seen. I have tried distancing myself from this by refusing to talk about these issues over the phone at all. I could not disagree more with them. I think they have some very hateful views, but I've chosen not to engage them on it. Growing up I was not close to my younger sister, mainly because of our age gap. However she has grown up and is very pleasant to speak to. We have spoken on the phone daily (I speak to mom and dad much less frequently) since she was around 14. I have not been exposed to to much of this because I intentionally tell both sides I don't want to talk about their drama (although I am generally clear with my sister that I agree with her, but I don't want to badmouth her parents). My sister is a lesbian, which I have no issue with whatsoever, and my parents do not (or did not) know and would immediately be against. We talked about this a quite often. My sister also has political views completely at odd with my parents (she was in trouble for not supporting their favorite political candidate, you can probably guess who) but I encouraged her to swallow it and suck it up at home for her safety and sanity. She mentioned a few times in the last two months about wanting to come out to them and I highly highly discouraged it. I have heard both of my parents approve of a pastor who disowned his gay son and similar stories. I didn't want them to do that to her. I have offered to let her live with me when she turns 18 but imagined that being in the future. I made her promise not to do that and she did. On her 16th birthday, she came out to them. I was a little angry with her over the phone (I didn't curse or scream or anything, but I was annoyed, but with sympathy for her position. I did chide her a bit, which I acknowledge was dumb.) She was extremely mad at me and didn't call me for four days, which was a long time for us not to speak. We spoke afterwards and I was much better, but things weren't going well. They didn't kick her out but weren't speaking to her at all. Literally she was screaming at them and they just quietly went into their rooms, not saying a word. I offered to speak to them for her and she begged me not to, so I did not, against my better judgement. My Dad, a week later, called me over the phone. He said that he was sick and needed emergency money to have a procedure He begged me \"not to tell\" mom or my sister. He needed about 20 grand. I had refused them money in the past for a car loan and made it clear that I wasn't giving them money, but I did for this, cautious but ultimately trusting him not to lie about his own potential death. I disagreed with him about a lot of things but he had always been so steadfast about the importance of honesty the thought of him lying about something like that seemed ridiculous and I felt guilty for even thinking that. About another week after that, my sister stopped calling me. I thought she was mad again for some reason but she didn't answer at all. I was worried. I called my parents and asked about her after about a week and they said she was being moody (I thought they thought I didn't know about her sexuality or what was going on). I checked my Facebook that night and I read an days old message from one of her friends that explained that she had been trying to reach me and that my sister was taken from her house into a van and driven off by men in a program with her and my parents there before kicking the friend out of the house. Her friend visited my parents house several times and they eventually told her they sent her to a religious program. She didn't get the name. I called up my father, and he denied it twice before admitting it after a long talk. I was so angry. They seriously have these religious camps that parents can send teens to anytime without committing a crime forever. I didn't think it had anything to do with the money, but I looked it up after that and found out that these programs are generally very expensive. I called him up again and he admitted that's where the money went. I demanded that he let her out and he told me it was his money. I told him I'd never speak to him again and he just ignored me. I try calling him up every few hours for the last several days when I found out and they ignore almost all of my calls. He intentionally didn't tell me the name of the facility or camp, but I've done reading and these are almost always dangerous places. I don't even know if she is in the US anymore. People die and get brainwashed at these places. I feel so guilty for giving them the ability to do this. I don't know the name of the camp, and I did technically give them the money. My only recourse at this point is to go tell everyone in their neighborhood what they did. I saw a facebook post they made about sending my sister to a snooty christian boarding school and that is NOT what they did. I called the school they posted and she isn't going there. They are very connected to the church/suburban town community and I think it would threaten them to have their image splattered with the truth. I would completely disown them now if it wouldn't completely destroy my chances of getting her out. I am at a loss. Please help me. tl;dr: My parents lied to me and took money claiming it was for an illness only to turn around and use it to send my sister to a camp because she came out. They are ignoring my calls. I don't have any legal grounds (i think) and I do not know how to convince them to let her out.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "You can and should sue your parents, or have a lawyer send a demand letter. You cannot commit the crime of extortion in Florida in so doing, however. A lawyer will advise you on how to structure an appropriate settlement that may result in your sister coming to live with you for the remainder of her minority. Do not try to DIY this, or you could end up charged with a crime.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "[Florida] I found out that my younger sister was sent away to a religious camp for her sexuality by my evangelical parents, who lied and took money from me (I believe) to fund it. I am furious. I posted this in r/relationships but I was told to post here. I live in Florida and so do my parents. This rest of this is a direct copy paste of what I posted there. I posted a thing here a two years ago that helped me with an uncomfortable situation involving a boss at work and it helped me save a good friendship and my job, so hopefully you guys can help me again with a much much more serious situation. I didn't remember that account so I made a new one. I need to give a little background to explain the situation. This will probably be long. I'm shitty at writing so please bare with me. I work as a computer engineer and live away from my parents. I moved out when I was 18, not because we had a particularly distant relationship, but because I was very hungry for independence and I didn't want to go to college like they wanted me to. I fell in love with programming and got a job a month after I graduated, and I've done that since. I am extremely frugal, and I now make about 70k a year after taxes (go mr. money mustache). Both my parents are in traditional white collar jobs that make significantly more money than I do, and they are horrific with money. When I was growing up my parents were semi-religious (church on easter and christmas type of deal) and not particularly invested in it or politics. Somewhere in the last three or four years they became interested in it, and in the last year in particular (regarding the last elecion especially) they have become some of the most religious and overfocused political people i've ever seen. I have tried distancing myself from this by refusing to talk about these issues over the phone at all. I could not disagree more with them. I think they have some very hateful views, but I've chosen not to engage them on it. Growing up I was not close to my younger sister, mainly because of our age gap. However she has grown up and is very pleasant to speak to. We have spoken on the phone daily (I speak to mom and dad much less frequently) since she was around 14. I have not been exposed to to much of this because I intentionally tell both sides I don't want to talk about their drama (although I am generally clear with my sister that I agree with her, but I don't want to badmouth her parents). My sister is a lesbian, which I have no issue with whatsoever, and my parents do not (or did not) know and would immediately be against. We talked about this a quite often. My sister also has political views completely at odd with my parents (she was in trouble for not supporting their favorite political candidate, you can probably guess who) but I encouraged her to swallow it and suck it up at home for her safety and sanity. She mentioned a few times in the last two months about wanting to come out to them and I highly highly discouraged it. I have heard both of my parents approve of a pastor who disowned his gay son and similar stories. I didn't want them to do that to her. I have offered to let her live with me when she turns 18 but imagined that being in the future. I made her promise not to do that and she did. On her 16th birthday, she came out to them. I was a little angry with her over the phone (I didn't curse or scream or anything, but I was annoyed, but with sympathy for her position. I did chide her a bit, which I acknowledge was dumb.) She was extremely mad at me and didn't call me for four days, which was a long time for us not to speak. We spoke afterwards and I was much better, but things weren't going well. They didn't kick her out but weren't speaking to her at all. Literally she was screaming at them and they just quietly went into their rooms, not saying a word. I offered to speak to them for her and she begged me not to, so I did not, against my better judgement. My Dad, a week later, called me over the phone. He said that he was sick and needed emergency money to have a procedure He begged me \"not to tell\" mom or my sister. He needed about 20 grand. I had refused them money in the past for a car loan and made it clear that I wasn't giving them money, but I did for this, cautious but ultimately trusting him not to lie about his own potential death. I disagreed with him about a lot of things but he had always been so steadfast about the importance of honesty the thought of him lying about something like that seemed ridiculous and I felt guilty for even thinking that. About another week after that, my sister stopped calling me. I thought she was mad again for some reason but she didn't answer at all. I was worried. I called my parents and asked about her after about a week and they said she was being moody (I thought they thought I didn't know about her sexuality or what was going on). I checked my Facebook that night and I read an days old message from one of her friends that explained that she had been trying to reach me and that my sister was taken from her house into a van and driven off by men in a program with her and my parents there before kicking the friend out of the house. Her friend visited my parents house several times and they eventually told her they sent her to a religious program. She didn't get the name. I called up my father, and he denied it twice before admitting it after a long talk. I was so angry. They seriously have these religious camps that parents can send teens to anytime without committing a crime forever. I didn't think it had anything to do with the money, but I looked it up after that and found out that these programs are generally very expensive. I called him up again and he admitted that's where the money went. I demanded that he let her out and he told me it was his money. I told him I'd never speak to him again and he just ignored me. I try calling him up every few hours for the last several days when I found out and they ignore almost all of my calls. He intentionally didn't tell me the name of the facility or camp, but I've done reading and these are almost always dangerous places. I don't even know if she is in the US anymore. People die and get brainwashed at these places. I feel so guilty for giving them the ability to do this. I don't know the name of the camp, and I did technically give them the money. My only recourse at this point is to go tell everyone in their neighborhood what they did. I saw a facebook post they made about sending my sister to a snooty christian boarding school and that is NOT what they did. I called the school they posted and she isn't going there. They are very connected to the church/suburban town community and I think it would threaten them to have their image splattered with the truth. I would completely disown them now if it wouldn't completely destroy my chances of getting her out. I am at a loss. Please help me. tl;dr: My parents lied to me and took money claiming it was for an illness only to turn around and use it to send my sister to a camp because she came out. They are ignoring my calls. I don't have any legal grounds (i think) and I do not know how to convince them to let her out.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Unfortunately, parents of children under age 18 have almost unlimited power over their children, outside of physical or emotional abuse. Although all decent, educated people recognize that gay conversion therapy is (a) complete bullshit and (b) abusive, you cannot be certain that Florida CPS will see it that way. Nevertheless I would immediately call CPS and report what you know. Make sure you include the fact that you believe parents lied to sister's school and on Facebook about where she went. Be prepared to be frustrated by CPS. They may be professional and do their job. They may be fellow members of the Christian Taliban and think your parents did nothing wrong. You could consider consulting a FL family law attorney to see if there is any chance you could get a judge to order your sister removed from the facility. I I would look for a GLBTQ friendly lawyer. You could ask the same attorney if you have any legal means to force your parents to remove her from the pray away the gay camp. On another front I would contact local LGBTQ organizations to see if they can help. I hope for the best for you and your sister.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[Florida] I found out that my younger sister was sent away to a religious camp for her sexuality by my evangelical parents, who lied and took money from me (I believe) to fund it. I am furious. I posted this in r/relationships but I was told to post here. I live in Florida and so do my parents. This rest of this is a direct copy paste of what I posted there. I posted a thing here a two years ago that helped me with an uncomfortable situation involving a boss at work and it helped me save a good friendship and my job, so hopefully you guys can help me again with a much much more serious situation. I didn't remember that account so I made a new one. I need to give a little background to explain the situation. This will probably be long. I'm shitty at writing so please bare with me. I work as a computer engineer and live away from my parents. I moved out when I was 18, not because we had a particularly distant relationship, but because I was very hungry for independence and I didn't want to go to college like they wanted me to. I fell in love with programming and got a job a month after I graduated, and I've done that since. I am extremely frugal, and I now make about 70k a year after taxes (go mr. money mustache). Both my parents are in traditional white collar jobs that make significantly more money than I do, and they are horrific with money. When I was growing up my parents were semi-religious (church on easter and christmas type of deal) and not particularly invested in it or politics. Somewhere in the last three or four years they became interested in it, and in the last year in particular (regarding the last elecion especially) they have become some of the most religious and overfocused political people i've ever seen. I have tried distancing myself from this by refusing to talk about these issues over the phone at all. I could not disagree more with them. I think they have some very hateful views, but I've chosen not to engage them on it. Growing up I was not close to my younger sister, mainly because of our age gap. However she has grown up and is very pleasant to speak to. We have spoken on the phone daily (I speak to mom and dad much less frequently) since she was around 14. I have not been exposed to to much of this because I intentionally tell both sides I don't want to talk about their drama (although I am generally clear with my sister that I agree with her, but I don't want to badmouth her parents). My sister is a lesbian, which I have no issue with whatsoever, and my parents do not (or did not) know and would immediately be against. We talked about this a quite often. My sister also has political views completely at odd with my parents (she was in trouble for not supporting their favorite political candidate, you can probably guess who) but I encouraged her to swallow it and suck it up at home for her safety and sanity. She mentioned a few times in the last two months about wanting to come out to them and I highly highly discouraged it. I have heard both of my parents approve of a pastor who disowned his gay son and similar stories. I didn't want them to do that to her. I have offered to let her live with me when she turns 18 but imagined that being in the future. I made her promise not to do that and she did. On her 16th birthday, she came out to them. I was a little angry with her over the phone (I didn't curse or scream or anything, but I was annoyed, but with sympathy for her position. I did chide her a bit, which I acknowledge was dumb.) She was extremely mad at me and didn't call me for four days, which was a long time for us not to speak. We spoke afterwards and I was much better, but things weren't going well. They didn't kick her out but weren't speaking to her at all. Literally she was screaming at them and they just quietly went into their rooms, not saying a word. I offered to speak to them for her and she begged me not to, so I did not, against my better judgement. My Dad, a week later, called me over the phone. He said that he was sick and needed emergency money to have a procedure He begged me \"not to tell\" mom or my sister. He needed about 20 grand. I had refused them money in the past for a car loan and made it clear that I wasn't giving them money, but I did for this, cautious but ultimately trusting him not to lie about his own potential death. I disagreed with him about a lot of things but he had always been so steadfast about the importance of honesty the thought of him lying about something like that seemed ridiculous and I felt guilty for even thinking that. About another week after that, my sister stopped calling me. I thought she was mad again for some reason but she didn't answer at all. I was worried. I called my parents and asked about her after about a week and they said she was being moody (I thought they thought I didn't know about her sexuality or what was going on). I checked my Facebook that night and I read an days old message from one of her friends that explained that she had been trying to reach me and that my sister was taken from her house into a van and driven off by men in a program with her and my parents there before kicking the friend out of the house. Her friend visited my parents house several times and they eventually told her they sent her to a religious program. She didn't get the name. I called up my father, and he denied it twice before admitting it after a long talk. I was so angry. They seriously have these religious camps that parents can send teens to anytime without committing a crime forever. I didn't think it had anything to do with the money, but I looked it up after that and found out that these programs are generally very expensive. I called him up again and he admitted that's where the money went. I demanded that he let her out and he told me it was his money. I told him I'd never speak to him again and he just ignored me. I try calling him up every few hours for the last several days when I found out and they ignore almost all of my calls. He intentionally didn't tell me the name of the facility or camp, but I've done reading and these are almost always dangerous places. I don't even know if she is in the US anymore. People die and get brainwashed at these places. I feel so guilty for giving them the ability to do this. I don't know the name of the camp, and I did technically give them the money. My only recourse at this point is to go tell everyone in their neighborhood what they did. I saw a facebook post they made about sending my sister to a snooty christian boarding school and that is NOT what they did. I called the school they posted and she isn't going there. They are very connected to the church/suburban town community and I think it would threaten them to have their image splattered with the truth. I would completely disown them now if it wouldn't completely destroy my chances of getting her out. I am at a loss. Please help me. tl;dr: My parents lied to me and took money claiming it was for an illness only to turn around and use it to send my sister to a camp because she came out. They are ignoring my calls. I don't have any legal grounds (i think) and I do not know how to convince them to let her out.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "You can and should sue your parents, or have a lawyer send a demand letter. You cannot commit the crime of extortion in Florida in so doing, however. A lawyer will advise you on how to structure an appropriate settlement that may result in your sister coming to live with you for the remainder of her minority. Do not try to DIY this, or you could end up charged with a crime.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "[Florida] I found out that my younger sister was sent away to a religious camp for her sexuality by my evangelical parents, who lied and took money from me (I believe) to fund it. I am furious. I posted this in r/relationships but I was told to post here. I live in Florida and so do my parents. This rest of this is a direct copy paste of what I posted there. I posted a thing here a two years ago that helped me with an uncomfortable situation involving a boss at work and it helped me save a good friendship and my job, so hopefully you guys can help me again with a much much more serious situation. I didn't remember that account so I made a new one. I need to give a little background to explain the situation. This will probably be long. I'm shitty at writing so please bare with me. I work as a computer engineer and live away from my parents. I moved out when I was 18, not because we had a particularly distant relationship, but because I was very hungry for independence and I didn't want to go to college like they wanted me to. I fell in love with programming and got a job a month after I graduated, and I've done that since. I am extremely frugal, and I now make about 70k a year after taxes (go mr. money mustache). Both my parents are in traditional white collar jobs that make significantly more money than I do, and they are horrific with money. When I was growing up my parents were semi-religious (church on easter and christmas type of deal) and not particularly invested in it or politics. Somewhere in the last three or four years they became interested in it, and in the last year in particular (regarding the last elecion especially) they have become some of the most religious and overfocused political people i've ever seen. I have tried distancing myself from this by refusing to talk about these issues over the phone at all. I could not disagree more with them. I think they have some very hateful views, but I've chosen not to engage them on it. Growing up I was not close to my younger sister, mainly because of our age gap. However she has grown up and is very pleasant to speak to. We have spoken on the phone daily (I speak to mom and dad much less frequently) since she was around 14. I have not been exposed to to much of this because I intentionally tell both sides I don't want to talk about their drama (although I am generally clear with my sister that I agree with her, but I don't want to badmouth her parents). My sister is a lesbian, which I have no issue with whatsoever, and my parents do not (or did not) know and would immediately be against. We talked about this a quite often. My sister also has political views completely at odd with my parents (she was in trouble for not supporting their favorite political candidate, you can probably guess who) but I encouraged her to swallow it and suck it up at home for her safety and sanity. She mentioned a few times in the last two months about wanting to come out to them and I highly highly discouraged it. I have heard both of my parents approve of a pastor who disowned his gay son and similar stories. I didn't want them to do that to her. I have offered to let her live with me when she turns 18 but imagined that being in the future. I made her promise not to do that and she did. On her 16th birthday, she came out to them. I was a little angry with her over the phone (I didn't curse or scream or anything, but I was annoyed, but with sympathy for her position. I did chide her a bit, which I acknowledge was dumb.) She was extremely mad at me and didn't call me for four days, which was a long time for us not to speak. We spoke afterwards and I was much better, but things weren't going well. They didn't kick her out but weren't speaking to her at all. Literally she was screaming at them and they just quietly went into their rooms, not saying a word. I offered to speak to them for her and she begged me not to, so I did not, against my better judgement. My Dad, a week later, called me over the phone. He said that he was sick and needed emergency money to have a procedure He begged me \"not to tell\" mom or my sister. He needed about 20 grand. I had refused them money in the past for a car loan and made it clear that I wasn't giving them money, but I did for this, cautious but ultimately trusting him not to lie about his own potential death. I disagreed with him about a lot of things but he had always been so steadfast about the importance of honesty the thought of him lying about something like that seemed ridiculous and I felt guilty for even thinking that. About another week after that, my sister stopped calling me. I thought she was mad again for some reason but she didn't answer at all. I was worried. I called my parents and asked about her after about a week and they said she was being moody (I thought they thought I didn't know about her sexuality or what was going on). I checked my Facebook that night and I read an days old message from one of her friends that explained that she had been trying to reach me and that my sister was taken from her house into a van and driven off by men in a program with her and my parents there before kicking the friend out of the house. Her friend visited my parents house several times and they eventually told her they sent her to a religious program. She didn't get the name. I called up my father, and he denied it twice before admitting it after a long talk. I was so angry. They seriously have these religious camps that parents can send teens to anytime without committing a crime forever. I didn't think it had anything to do with the money, but I looked it up after that and found out that these programs are generally very expensive. I called him up again and he admitted that's where the money went. I demanded that he let her out and he told me it was his money. I told him I'd never speak to him again and he just ignored me. I try calling him up every few hours for the last several days when I found out and they ignore almost all of my calls. He intentionally didn't tell me the name of the facility or camp, but I've done reading and these are almost always dangerous places. I don't even know if she is in the US anymore. People die and get brainwashed at these places. I feel so guilty for giving them the ability to do this. I don't know the name of the camp, and I did technically give them the money. My only recourse at this point is to go tell everyone in their neighborhood what they did. I saw a facebook post they made about sending my sister to a snooty christian boarding school and that is NOT what they did. I called the school they posted and she isn't going there. They are very connected to the church/suburban town community and I think it would threaten them to have their image splattered with the truth. I would completely disown them now if it wouldn't completely destroy my chances of getting her out. I am at a loss. Please help me. tl;dr: My parents lied to me and took money claiming it was for an illness only to turn around and use it to send my sister to a camp because she came out. They are ignoring my calls. I don't have any legal grounds (i think) and I do not know how to convince them to let her out.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Unfortunately, parents of children under age 18 have almost unlimited power over their children, outside of physical or emotional abuse. Although all decent, educated people recognize that gay conversion therapy is (a) complete bullshit and (b) abusive, you cannot be certain that Florida CPS will see it that way. Nevertheless I would immediately call CPS and report what you know. Make sure you include the fact that you believe parents lied to sister's school and on Facebook about where she went. Be prepared to be frustrated by CPS. They may be professional and do their job. They may be fellow members of the Christian Taliban and think your parents did nothing wrong. You could consider consulting a FL family law attorney to see if there is any chance you could get a judge to order your sister removed from the facility. I I would look for a GLBTQ friendly lawyer. You could ask the same attorney if you have any legal means to force your parents to remove her from the pray away the gay camp. On another front I would contact local LGBTQ organizations to see if they can help. I hope for the best for you and your sister.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[Florida] I found out that my younger sister was sent away to a religious camp for her sexuality by my evangelical parents, who lied and took money from me (I believe) to fund it. I am furious. I posted this in r/relationships but I was told to post here. I live in Florida and so do my parents. This rest of this is a direct copy paste of what I posted there. I posted a thing here a two years ago that helped me with an uncomfortable situation involving a boss at work and it helped me save a good friendship and my job, so hopefully you guys can help me again with a much much more serious situation. I didn't remember that account so I made a new one. I need to give a little background to explain the situation. This will probably be long. I'm shitty at writing so please bare with me. I work as a computer engineer and live away from my parents. I moved out when I was 18, not because we had a particularly distant relationship, but because I was very hungry for independence and I didn't want to go to college like they wanted me to. I fell in love with programming and got a job a month after I graduated, and I've done that since. I am extremely frugal, and I now make about 70k a year after taxes (go mr. money mustache). Both my parents are in traditional white collar jobs that make significantly more money than I do, and they are horrific with money. When I was growing up my parents were semi-religious (church on easter and christmas type of deal) and not particularly invested in it or politics. Somewhere in the last three or four years they became interested in it, and in the last year in particular (regarding the last elecion especially) they have become some of the most religious and overfocused political people i've ever seen. I have tried distancing myself from this by refusing to talk about these issues over the phone at all. I could not disagree more with them. I think they have some very hateful views, but I've chosen not to engage them on it. Growing up I was not close to my younger sister, mainly because of our age gap. However she has grown up and is very pleasant to speak to. We have spoken on the phone daily (I speak to mom and dad much less frequently) since she was around 14. I have not been exposed to to much of this because I intentionally tell both sides I don't want to talk about their drama (although I am generally clear with my sister that I agree with her, but I don't want to badmouth her parents). My sister is a lesbian, which I have no issue with whatsoever, and my parents do not (or did not) know and would immediately be against. We talked about this a quite often. My sister also has political views completely at odd with my parents (she was in trouble for not supporting their favorite political candidate, you can probably guess who) but I encouraged her to swallow it and suck it up at home for her safety and sanity. She mentioned a few times in the last two months about wanting to come out to them and I highly highly discouraged it. I have heard both of my parents approve of a pastor who disowned his gay son and similar stories. I didn't want them to do that to her. I have offered to let her live with me when she turns 18 but imagined that being in the future. I made her promise not to do that and she did. On her 16th birthday, she came out to them. I was a little angry with her over the phone (I didn't curse or scream or anything, but I was annoyed, but with sympathy for her position. I did chide her a bit, which I acknowledge was dumb.) She was extremely mad at me and didn't call me for four days, which was a long time for us not to speak. We spoke afterwards and I was much better, but things weren't going well. They didn't kick her out but weren't speaking to her at all. Literally she was screaming at them and they just quietly went into their rooms, not saying a word. I offered to speak to them for her and she begged me not to, so I did not, against my better judgement. My Dad, a week later, called me over the phone. He said that he was sick and needed emergency money to have a procedure He begged me \"not to tell\" mom or my sister. He needed about 20 grand. I had refused them money in the past for a car loan and made it clear that I wasn't giving them money, but I did for this, cautious but ultimately trusting him not to lie about his own potential death. I disagreed with him about a lot of things but he had always been so steadfast about the importance of honesty the thought of him lying about something like that seemed ridiculous and I felt guilty for even thinking that. About another week after that, my sister stopped calling me. I thought she was mad again for some reason but she didn't answer at all. I was worried. I called my parents and asked about her after about a week and they said she was being moody (I thought they thought I didn't know about her sexuality or what was going on). I checked my Facebook that night and I read an days old message from one of her friends that explained that she had been trying to reach me and that my sister was taken from her house into a van and driven off by men in a program with her and my parents there before kicking the friend out of the house. Her friend visited my parents house several times and they eventually told her they sent her to a religious program. She didn't get the name. I called up my father, and he denied it twice before admitting it after a long talk. I was so angry. They seriously have these religious camps that parents can send teens to anytime without committing a crime forever. I didn't think it had anything to do with the money, but I looked it up after that and found out that these programs are generally very expensive. I called him up again and he admitted that's where the money went. I demanded that he let her out and he told me it was his money. I told him I'd never speak to him again and he just ignored me. I try calling him up every few hours for the last several days when I found out and they ignore almost all of my calls. He intentionally didn't tell me the name of the facility or camp, but I've done reading and these are almost always dangerous places. I don't even know if she is in the US anymore. People die and get brainwashed at these places. I feel so guilty for giving them the ability to do this. I don't know the name of the camp, and I did technically give them the money. My only recourse at this point is to go tell everyone in their neighborhood what they did. I saw a facebook post they made about sending my sister to a snooty christian boarding school and that is NOT what they did. I called the school they posted and she isn't going there. They are very connected to the church/suburban town community and I think it would threaten them to have their image splattered with the truth. I would completely disown them now if it wouldn't completely destroy my chances of getting her out. I am at a loss. Please help me. tl;dr: My parents lied to me and took money claiming it was for an illness only to turn around and use it to send my sister to a camp because she came out. They are ignoring my calls. I don't have any legal grounds (i think) and I do not know how to convince them to let her out.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "So, in addition to everyone else: * Definitely pursue getting a lawyer to see if you can yank back the $20,000 conditional gift. * Check out this page and see if your parents live in a locality that has banned conversion therapy. While Florida has not, some localities have, and therefore they may still have committed a crime. * Bills have been proposed in FL to ban conversion therapy within the state. Contact her (and your) state rep and senator and agitate for the ban. If they are for the ban, they may know of the therapy camps in FL, which you can narrow down by affiliation with your parent's church/denomination.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "[Florida] I found out that my younger sister was sent away to a religious camp for her sexuality by my evangelical parents, who lied and took money from me (I believe) to fund it. I am furious. I posted this in r/relationships but I was told to post here. I live in Florida and so do my parents. This rest of this is a direct copy paste of what I posted there. I posted a thing here a two years ago that helped me with an uncomfortable situation involving a boss at work and it helped me save a good friendship and my job, so hopefully you guys can help me again with a much much more serious situation. I didn't remember that account so I made a new one. I need to give a little background to explain the situation. This will probably be long. I'm shitty at writing so please bare with me. I work as a computer engineer and live away from my parents. I moved out when I was 18, not because we had a particularly distant relationship, but because I was very hungry for independence and I didn't want to go to college like they wanted me to. I fell in love with programming and got a job a month after I graduated, and I've done that since. I am extremely frugal, and I now make about 70k a year after taxes (go mr. money mustache). Both my parents are in traditional white collar jobs that make significantly more money than I do, and they are horrific with money. When I was growing up my parents were semi-religious (church on easter and christmas type of deal) and not particularly invested in it or politics. Somewhere in the last three or four years they became interested in it, and in the last year in particular (regarding the last elecion especially) they have become some of the most religious and overfocused political people i've ever seen. I have tried distancing myself from this by refusing to talk about these issues over the phone at all. I could not disagree more with them. I think they have some very hateful views, but I've chosen not to engage them on it. Growing up I was not close to my younger sister, mainly because of our age gap. However she has grown up and is very pleasant to speak to. We have spoken on the phone daily (I speak to mom and dad much less frequently) since she was around 14. I have not been exposed to to much of this because I intentionally tell both sides I don't want to talk about their drama (although I am generally clear with my sister that I agree with her, but I don't want to badmouth her parents). My sister is a lesbian, which I have no issue with whatsoever, and my parents do not (or did not) know and would immediately be against. We talked about this a quite often. My sister also has political views completely at odd with my parents (she was in trouble for not supporting their favorite political candidate, you can probably guess who) but I encouraged her to swallow it and suck it up at home for her safety and sanity. She mentioned a few times in the last two months about wanting to come out to them and I highly highly discouraged it. I have heard both of my parents approve of a pastor who disowned his gay son and similar stories. I didn't want them to do that to her. I have offered to let her live with me when she turns 18 but imagined that being in the future. I made her promise not to do that and she did. On her 16th birthday, she came out to them. I was a little angry with her over the phone (I didn't curse or scream or anything, but I was annoyed, but with sympathy for her position. I did chide her a bit, which I acknowledge was dumb.) She was extremely mad at me and didn't call me for four days, which was a long time for us not to speak. We spoke afterwards and I was much better, but things weren't going well. They didn't kick her out but weren't speaking to her at all. Literally she was screaming at them and they just quietly went into their rooms, not saying a word. I offered to speak to them for her and she begged me not to, so I did not, against my better judgement. My Dad, a week later, called me over the phone. He said that he was sick and needed emergency money to have a procedure He begged me \"not to tell\" mom or my sister. He needed about 20 grand. I had refused them money in the past for a car loan and made it clear that I wasn't giving them money, but I did for this, cautious but ultimately trusting him not to lie about his own potential death. I disagreed with him about a lot of things but he had always been so steadfast about the importance of honesty the thought of him lying about something like that seemed ridiculous and I felt guilty for even thinking that. About another week after that, my sister stopped calling me. I thought she was mad again for some reason but she didn't answer at all. I was worried. I called my parents and asked about her after about a week and they said she was being moody (I thought they thought I didn't know about her sexuality or what was going on). I checked my Facebook that night and I read an days old message from one of her friends that explained that she had been trying to reach me and that my sister was taken from her house into a van and driven off by men in a program with her and my parents there before kicking the friend out of the house. Her friend visited my parents house several times and they eventually told her they sent her to a religious program. She didn't get the name. I called up my father, and he denied it twice before admitting it after a long talk. I was so angry. They seriously have these religious camps that parents can send teens to anytime without committing a crime forever. I didn't think it had anything to do with the money, but I looked it up after that and found out that these programs are generally very expensive. I called him up again and he admitted that's where the money went. I demanded that he let her out and he told me it was his money. I told him I'd never speak to him again and he just ignored me. I try calling him up every few hours for the last several days when I found out and they ignore almost all of my calls. He intentionally didn't tell me the name of the facility or camp, but I've done reading and these are almost always dangerous places. I don't even know if she is in the US anymore. People die and get brainwashed at these places. I feel so guilty for giving them the ability to do this. I don't know the name of the camp, and I did technically give them the money. My only recourse at this point is to go tell everyone in their neighborhood what they did. I saw a facebook post they made about sending my sister to a snooty christian boarding school and that is NOT what they did. I called the school they posted and she isn't going there. They are very connected to the church/suburban town community and I think it would threaten them to have their image splattered with the truth. I would completely disown them now if it wouldn't completely destroy my chances of getting her out. I am at a loss. Please help me. tl;dr: My parents lied to me and took money claiming it was for an illness only to turn around and use it to send my sister to a camp because she came out. They are ignoring my calls. I don't have any legal grounds (i think) and I do not know how to convince them to let her out.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Sue them. Also talk to a lawyer about theft by deception. Probably won't stick but they don't know that, and it should scare your parents to have the possibility of criminal charges. Them being scared of your legal action means more chance of getting what you want, your sister removed. Good luck", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[Florida] I found out that my younger sister was sent away to a religious camp for her sexuality by my evangelical parents, who lied and took money from me (I believe) to fund it. I am furious. I posted this in r/relationships but I was told to post here. I live in Florida and so do my parents. This rest of this is a direct copy paste of what I posted there. I posted a thing here a two years ago that helped me with an uncomfortable situation involving a boss at work and it helped me save a good friendship and my job, so hopefully you guys can help me again with a much much more serious situation. I didn't remember that account so I made a new one. I need to give a little background to explain the situation. This will probably be long. I'm shitty at writing so please bare with me. I work as a computer engineer and live away from my parents. I moved out when I was 18, not because we had a particularly distant relationship, but because I was very hungry for independence and I didn't want to go to college like they wanted me to. I fell in love with programming and got a job a month after I graduated, and I've done that since. I am extremely frugal, and I now make about 70k a year after taxes (go mr. money mustache). Both my parents are in traditional white collar jobs that make significantly more money than I do, and they are horrific with money. When I was growing up my parents were semi-religious (church on easter and christmas type of deal) and not particularly invested in it or politics. Somewhere in the last three or four years they became interested in it, and in the last year in particular (regarding the last elecion especially) they have become some of the most religious and overfocused political people i've ever seen. I have tried distancing myself from this by refusing to talk about these issues over the phone at all. I could not disagree more with them. I think they have some very hateful views, but I've chosen not to engage them on it. Growing up I was not close to my younger sister, mainly because of our age gap. However she has grown up and is very pleasant to speak to. We have spoken on the phone daily (I speak to mom and dad much less frequently) since she was around 14. I have not been exposed to to much of this because I intentionally tell both sides I don't want to talk about their drama (although I am generally clear with my sister that I agree with her, but I don't want to badmouth her parents). My sister is a lesbian, which I have no issue with whatsoever, and my parents do not (or did not) know and would immediately be against. We talked about this a quite often. My sister also has political views completely at odd with my parents (she was in trouble for not supporting their favorite political candidate, you can probably guess who) but I encouraged her to swallow it and suck it up at home for her safety and sanity. She mentioned a few times in the last two months about wanting to come out to them and I highly highly discouraged it. I have heard both of my parents approve of a pastor who disowned his gay son and similar stories. I didn't want them to do that to her. I have offered to let her live with me when she turns 18 but imagined that being in the future. I made her promise not to do that and she did. On her 16th birthday, she came out to them. I was a little angry with her over the phone (I didn't curse or scream or anything, but I was annoyed, but with sympathy for her position. I did chide her a bit, which I acknowledge was dumb.) She was extremely mad at me and didn't call me for four days, which was a long time for us not to speak. We spoke afterwards and I was much better, but things weren't going well. They didn't kick her out but weren't speaking to her at all. Literally she was screaming at them and they just quietly went into their rooms, not saying a word. I offered to speak to them for her and she begged me not to, so I did not, against my better judgement. My Dad, a week later, called me over the phone. He said that he was sick and needed emergency money to have a procedure He begged me \"not to tell\" mom or my sister. He needed about 20 grand. I had refused them money in the past for a car loan and made it clear that I wasn't giving them money, but I did for this, cautious but ultimately trusting him not to lie about his own potential death. I disagreed with him about a lot of things but he had always been so steadfast about the importance of honesty the thought of him lying about something like that seemed ridiculous and I felt guilty for even thinking that. About another week after that, my sister stopped calling me. I thought she was mad again for some reason but she didn't answer at all. I was worried. I called my parents and asked about her after about a week and they said she was being moody (I thought they thought I didn't know about her sexuality or what was going on). I checked my Facebook that night and I read an days old message from one of her friends that explained that she had been trying to reach me and that my sister was taken from her house into a van and driven off by men in a program with her and my parents there before kicking the friend out of the house. Her friend visited my parents house several times and they eventually told her they sent her to a religious program. She didn't get the name. I called up my father, and he denied it twice before admitting it after a long talk. I was so angry. They seriously have these religious camps that parents can send teens to anytime without committing a crime forever. I didn't think it had anything to do with the money, but I looked it up after that and found out that these programs are generally very expensive. I called him up again and he admitted that's where the money went. I demanded that he let her out and he told me it was his money. I told him I'd never speak to him again and he just ignored me. I try calling him up every few hours for the last several days when I found out and they ignore almost all of my calls. He intentionally didn't tell me the name of the facility or camp, but I've done reading and these are almost always dangerous places. I don't even know if she is in the US anymore. People die and get brainwashed at these places. I feel so guilty for giving them the ability to do this. I don't know the name of the camp, and I did technically give them the money. My only recourse at this point is to go tell everyone in their neighborhood what they did. I saw a facebook post they made about sending my sister to a snooty christian boarding school and that is NOT what they did. I called the school they posted and she isn't going there. They are very connected to the church/suburban town community and I think it would threaten them to have their image splattered with the truth. I would completely disown them now if it wouldn't completely destroy my chances of getting her out. I am at a loss. Please help me. tl;dr: My parents lied to me and took money claiming it was for an illness only to turn around and use it to send my sister to a camp because she came out. They are ignoring my calls. I don't have any legal grounds (i think) and I do not know how to convince them to let her out.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "So, in addition to everyone else: * Definitely pursue getting a lawyer to see if you can yank back the $20,000 conditional gift. * Check out this page and see if your parents live in a locality that has banned conversion therapy. While Florida has not, some localities have, and therefore they may still have committed a crime. * Bills have been proposed in FL to ban conversion therapy within the state. Contact her (and your) state rep and senator and agitate for the ban. If they are for the ban, they may know of the therapy camps in FL, which you can narrow down by affiliation with your parent's church/denomination.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "[Florida] I found out that my younger sister was sent away to a religious camp for her sexuality by my evangelical parents, who lied and took money from me (I believe) to fund it. I am furious. I posted this in r/relationships but I was told to post here. I live in Florida and so do my parents. This rest of this is a direct copy paste of what I posted there. I posted a thing here a two years ago that helped me with an uncomfortable situation involving a boss at work and it helped me save a good friendship and my job, so hopefully you guys can help me again with a much much more serious situation. I didn't remember that account so I made a new one. I need to give a little background to explain the situation. This will probably be long. I'm shitty at writing so please bare with me. I work as a computer engineer and live away from my parents. I moved out when I was 18, not because we had a particularly distant relationship, but because I was very hungry for independence and I didn't want to go to college like they wanted me to. I fell in love with programming and got a job a month after I graduated, and I've done that since. I am extremely frugal, and I now make about 70k a year after taxes (go mr. money mustache). Both my parents are in traditional white collar jobs that make significantly more money than I do, and they are horrific with money. When I was growing up my parents were semi-religious (church on easter and christmas type of deal) and not particularly invested in it or politics. Somewhere in the last three or four years they became interested in it, and in the last year in particular (regarding the last elecion especially) they have become some of the most religious and overfocused political people i've ever seen. I have tried distancing myself from this by refusing to talk about these issues over the phone at all. I could not disagree more with them. I think they have some very hateful views, but I've chosen not to engage them on it. Growing up I was not close to my younger sister, mainly because of our age gap. However she has grown up and is very pleasant to speak to. We have spoken on the phone daily (I speak to mom and dad much less frequently) since she was around 14. I have not been exposed to to much of this because I intentionally tell both sides I don't want to talk about their drama (although I am generally clear with my sister that I agree with her, but I don't want to badmouth her parents). My sister is a lesbian, which I have no issue with whatsoever, and my parents do not (or did not) know and would immediately be against. We talked about this a quite often. My sister also has political views completely at odd with my parents (she was in trouble for not supporting their favorite political candidate, you can probably guess who) but I encouraged her to swallow it and suck it up at home for her safety and sanity. She mentioned a few times in the last two months about wanting to come out to them and I highly highly discouraged it. I have heard both of my parents approve of a pastor who disowned his gay son and similar stories. I didn't want them to do that to her. I have offered to let her live with me when she turns 18 but imagined that being in the future. I made her promise not to do that and she did. On her 16th birthday, she came out to them. I was a little angry with her over the phone (I didn't curse or scream or anything, but I was annoyed, but with sympathy for her position. I did chide her a bit, which I acknowledge was dumb.) She was extremely mad at me and didn't call me for four days, which was a long time for us not to speak. We spoke afterwards and I was much better, but things weren't going well. They didn't kick her out but weren't speaking to her at all. Literally she was screaming at them and they just quietly went into their rooms, not saying a word. I offered to speak to them for her and she begged me not to, so I did not, against my better judgement. My Dad, a week later, called me over the phone. He said that he was sick and needed emergency money to have a procedure He begged me \"not to tell\" mom or my sister. He needed about 20 grand. I had refused them money in the past for a car loan and made it clear that I wasn't giving them money, but I did for this, cautious but ultimately trusting him not to lie about his own potential death. I disagreed with him about a lot of things but he had always been so steadfast about the importance of honesty the thought of him lying about something like that seemed ridiculous and I felt guilty for even thinking that. About another week after that, my sister stopped calling me. I thought she was mad again for some reason but she didn't answer at all. I was worried. I called my parents and asked about her after about a week and they said she was being moody (I thought they thought I didn't know about her sexuality or what was going on). I checked my Facebook that night and I read an days old message from one of her friends that explained that she had been trying to reach me and that my sister was taken from her house into a van and driven off by men in a program with her and my parents there before kicking the friend out of the house. Her friend visited my parents house several times and they eventually told her they sent her to a religious program. She didn't get the name. I called up my father, and he denied it twice before admitting it after a long talk. I was so angry. They seriously have these religious camps that parents can send teens to anytime without committing a crime forever. I didn't think it had anything to do with the money, but I looked it up after that and found out that these programs are generally very expensive. I called him up again and he admitted that's where the money went. I demanded that he let her out and he told me it was his money. I told him I'd never speak to him again and he just ignored me. I try calling him up every few hours for the last several days when I found out and they ignore almost all of my calls. He intentionally didn't tell me the name of the facility or camp, but I've done reading and these are almost always dangerous places. I don't even know if she is in the US anymore. People die and get brainwashed at these places. I feel so guilty for giving them the ability to do this. I don't know the name of the camp, and I did technically give them the money. My only recourse at this point is to go tell everyone in their neighborhood what they did. I saw a facebook post they made about sending my sister to a snooty christian boarding school and that is NOT what they did. I called the school they posted and she isn't going there. They are very connected to the church/suburban town community and I think it would threaten them to have their image splattered with the truth. I would completely disown them now if it wouldn't completely destroy my chances of getting her out. I am at a loss. Please help me. tl;dr: My parents lied to me and took money claiming it was for an illness only to turn around and use it to send my sister to a camp because she came out. They are ignoring my calls. I don't have any legal grounds (i think) and I do not know how to convince them to let her out.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "At the very least, you need to sue your parents. When you sister is in an ok position, you need to cut contact with them.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[Florida] I found out that my younger sister was sent away to a religious camp for her sexuality by my evangelical parents, who lied and took money from me (I believe) to fund it. I am furious. I posted this in r/relationships but I was told to post here. I live in Florida and so do my parents. This rest of this is a direct copy paste of what I posted there. I posted a thing here a two years ago that helped me with an uncomfortable situation involving a boss at work and it helped me save a good friendship and my job, so hopefully you guys can help me again with a much much more serious situation. I didn't remember that account so I made a new one. I need to give a little background to explain the situation. This will probably be long. I'm shitty at writing so please bare with me. I work as a computer engineer and live away from my parents. I moved out when I was 18, not because we had a particularly distant relationship, but because I was very hungry for independence and I didn't want to go to college like they wanted me to. I fell in love with programming and got a job a month after I graduated, and I've done that since. I am extremely frugal, and I now make about 70k a year after taxes (go mr. money mustache). Both my parents are in traditional white collar jobs that make significantly more money than I do, and they are horrific with money. When I was growing up my parents were semi-religious (church on easter and christmas type of deal) and not particularly invested in it or politics. Somewhere in the last three or four years they became interested in it, and in the last year in particular (regarding the last elecion especially) they have become some of the most religious and overfocused political people i've ever seen. I have tried distancing myself from this by refusing to talk about these issues over the phone at all. I could not disagree more with them. I think they have some very hateful views, but I've chosen not to engage them on it. Growing up I was not close to my younger sister, mainly because of our age gap. However she has grown up and is very pleasant to speak to. We have spoken on the phone daily (I speak to mom and dad much less frequently) since she was around 14. I have not been exposed to to much of this because I intentionally tell both sides I don't want to talk about their drama (although I am generally clear with my sister that I agree with her, but I don't want to badmouth her parents). My sister is a lesbian, which I have no issue with whatsoever, and my parents do not (or did not) know and would immediately be against. We talked about this a quite often. My sister also has political views completely at odd with my parents (she was in trouble for not supporting their favorite political candidate, you can probably guess who) but I encouraged her to swallow it and suck it up at home for her safety and sanity. She mentioned a few times in the last two months about wanting to come out to them and I highly highly discouraged it. I have heard both of my parents approve of a pastor who disowned his gay son and similar stories. I didn't want them to do that to her. I have offered to let her live with me when she turns 18 but imagined that being in the future. I made her promise not to do that and she did. On her 16th birthday, she came out to them. I was a little angry with her over the phone (I didn't curse or scream or anything, but I was annoyed, but with sympathy for her position. I did chide her a bit, which I acknowledge was dumb.) She was extremely mad at me and didn't call me for four days, which was a long time for us not to speak. We spoke afterwards and I was much better, but things weren't going well. They didn't kick her out but weren't speaking to her at all. Literally she was screaming at them and they just quietly went into their rooms, not saying a word. I offered to speak to them for her and she begged me not to, so I did not, against my better judgement. My Dad, a week later, called me over the phone. He said that he was sick and needed emergency money to have a procedure He begged me \"not to tell\" mom or my sister. He needed about 20 grand. I had refused them money in the past for a car loan and made it clear that I wasn't giving them money, but I did for this, cautious but ultimately trusting him not to lie about his own potential death. I disagreed with him about a lot of things but he had always been so steadfast about the importance of honesty the thought of him lying about something like that seemed ridiculous and I felt guilty for even thinking that. About another week after that, my sister stopped calling me. I thought she was mad again for some reason but she didn't answer at all. I was worried. I called my parents and asked about her after about a week and they said she was being moody (I thought they thought I didn't know about her sexuality or what was going on). I checked my Facebook that night and I read an days old message from one of her friends that explained that she had been trying to reach me and that my sister was taken from her house into a van and driven off by men in a program with her and my parents there before kicking the friend out of the house. Her friend visited my parents house several times and they eventually told her they sent her to a religious program. She didn't get the name. I called up my father, and he denied it twice before admitting it after a long talk. I was so angry. They seriously have these religious camps that parents can send teens to anytime without committing a crime forever. I didn't think it had anything to do with the money, but I looked it up after that and found out that these programs are generally very expensive. I called him up again and he admitted that's where the money went. I demanded that he let her out and he told me it was his money. I told him I'd never speak to him again and he just ignored me. I try calling him up every few hours for the last several days when I found out and they ignore almost all of my calls. He intentionally didn't tell me the name of the facility or camp, but I've done reading and these are almost always dangerous places. I don't even know if she is in the US anymore. People die and get brainwashed at these places. I feel so guilty for giving them the ability to do this. I don't know the name of the camp, and I did technically give them the money. My only recourse at this point is to go tell everyone in their neighborhood what they did. I saw a facebook post they made about sending my sister to a snooty christian boarding school and that is NOT what they did. I called the school they posted and she isn't going there. They are very connected to the church/suburban town community and I think it would threaten them to have their image splattered with the truth. I would completely disown them now if it wouldn't completely destroy my chances of getting her out. I am at a loss. Please help me. tl;dr: My parents lied to me and took money claiming it was for an illness only to turn around and use it to send my sister to a camp because she came out. They are ignoring my calls. I don't have any legal grounds (i think) and I do not know how to convince them to let her out.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "So, in addition to everyone else: * Definitely pursue getting a lawyer to see if you can yank back the $20,000 conditional gift. * Check out this page and see if your parents live in a locality that has banned conversion therapy. While Florida has not, some localities have, and therefore they may still have committed a crime. * Bills have been proposed in FL to ban conversion therapy within the state. Contact her (and your) state rep and senator and agitate for the ban. If they are for the ban, they may know of the therapy camps in FL, which you can narrow down by affiliation with your parent's church/denomination.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "I came out to my parents as Lesbian and they kicked me out. I’m 17, don’t have a home, and they’re threatening to keep my savings and stuff, too. What can I do? Basically in the title. I’m 17, living in Utah, US. I’m living at a friend’s right now but they don’t really have room for me, I’m staying on their couch and it won’t work long term. Is it even legal for my parents to kick me out as a minor? Like I just turned 17, I can’t do anything for myself legally (i.e. get an apartment) for a year. Do I have any grounds on my savings or my stuff?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "They're legally required to look after you until you are 18 and can't kick you out. You can contact the police. Afterwards you're going to have to make preparations for when you turn 18. You should start collecting documents and make moves towards securing your money. At the moment your parents could drain your bank account if they feel like it and once you're 18 you will have to take steps to remove their access to it because it's not automatic.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "I came out to my parents as Lesbian and they kicked me out. I’m 17, don’t have a home, and they’re threatening to keep my savings and stuff, too. What can I do? Basically in the title. I’m 17, living in Utah, US. I’m living at a friend’s right now but they don’t really have room for me, I’m staying on their couch and it won’t work long term. Is it even legal for my parents to kick me out as a minor? Like I just turned 17, I can’t do anything for myself legally (i.e. get an apartment) for a year. Do I have any grounds on my savings or my stuff?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "OP in your last post to /r/legaladvice you state you’re 19. In this post you say you just turned 17. Your real age is important in regards to your options. Either way you were a tenant and they cannot kick you out without legally evicting you. If you are indeed a minor they can’t just kick you out, they have a legal obligation to provide for you until you are 18 and in some states until you graduate high school if you turn 18 before then.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "I came out to my parents as Lesbian and they kicked me out. I’m 17, don’t have a home, and they’re threatening to keep my savings and stuff, too. What can I do? Basically in the title. I’m 17, living in Utah, US. I’m living at a friend’s right now but they don’t really have room for me, I’m staying on their couch and it won’t work long term. Is it even legal for my parents to kick me out as a minor? Like I just turned 17, I can’t do anything for myself legally (i.e. get an apartment) for a year. Do I have any grounds on my savings or my stuff?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Call CPS, it is illegal for parents to just stop taking care of their kids. You can apply for emancipation if you want, which will allow to separate from your parents and act as an independent adult. That being said, the process can be quite slow, and since you're going to be a legal adult in less than a year anyway, it may not be worth it to start the process.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "I came out to my parents as Lesbian and they kicked me out. I’m 17, don’t have a home, and they’re threatening to keep my savings and stuff, too. What can I do? Basically in the title. I’m 17, living in Utah, US. I’m living at a friend’s right now but they don’t really have room for me, I’m staying on their couch and it won’t work long term. Is it even legal for my parents to kick me out as a minor? Like I just turned 17, I can’t do anything for myself legally (i.e. get an apartment) for a year. Do I have any grounds on my savings or my stuff?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "OP in your last post to /r/legaladvice you state you’re 19. In this post you say you just turned 17. Your real age is important in regards to your options. Either way you were a tenant and they cannot kick you out without legally evicting you. If you are indeed a minor they can’t just kick you out, they have a legal obligation to provide for you until you are 18 and in some states until you graduate high school if you turn 18 before then.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "I came out to my parents as Lesbian and they kicked me out. I’m 17, don’t have a home, and they’re threatening to keep my savings and stuff, too. What can I do? Basically in the title. I’m 17, living in Utah, US. I’m living at a friend’s right now but they don’t really have room for me, I’m staying on their couch and it won’t work long term. Is it even legal for my parents to kick me out as a minor? Like I just turned 17, I can’t do anything for myself legally (i.e. get an apartment) for a year. Do I have any grounds on my savings or my stuff?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Call CPS, it is illegal for parents to just stop taking care of their kids. You can apply for emancipation if you want, which will allow to separate from your parents and act as an independent adult. That being said, the process can be quite slow, and since you're going to be a legal adult in less than a year anyway, it may not be worth it to start the process.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "I came out to my parents as Lesbian and they kicked me out. I’m 17, don’t have a home, and they’re threatening to keep my savings and stuff, too. What can I do? Basically in the title. I’m 17, living in Utah, US. I’m living at a friend’s right now but they don’t really have room for me, I’m staying on their couch and it won’t work long term. Is it even legal for my parents to kick me out as a minor? Like I just turned 17, I can’t do anything for myself legally (i.e. get an apartment) for a year. Do I have any grounds on my savings or my stuff?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "http://encircletogether.org/ That links to a LGBTQ Youth house in Provo, if you can get there. They are very helpful for teensin your situation. Also reach out to your school counselor or a teacher, they can help get the CPS thing rolling.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "I came out to my parents as Lesbian and they kicked me out. I’m 17, don’t have a home, and they’re threatening to keep my savings and stuff, too. What can I do? Basically in the title. I’m 17, living in Utah, US. I’m living at a friend’s right now but they don’t really have room for me, I’m staying on their couch and it won’t work long term. Is it even legal for my parents to kick me out as a minor? Like I just turned 17, I can’t do anything for myself legally (i.e. get an apartment) for a year. Do I have any grounds on my savings or my stuff?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Call CPS, it is illegal for parents to just stop taking care of their kids. You can apply for emancipation if you want, which will allow to separate from your parents and act as an independent adult. That being said, the process can be quite slow, and since you're going to be a legal adult in less than a year anyway, it may not be worth it to start the process.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "I came out to my parents as Lesbian and they kicked me out. I’m 17, don’t have a home, and they’re threatening to keep my savings and stuff, too. What can I do? Basically in the title. I’m 17, living in Utah, US. I’m living at a friend’s right now but they don’t really have room for me, I’m staying on their couch and it won’t work long term. Is it even legal for my parents to kick me out as a minor? Like I just turned 17, I can’t do anything for myself legally (i.e. get an apartment) for a year. Do I have any grounds on my savings or my stuff?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Call the police/CPS and report to them they kicked you out. Even if you don’t want to go back there doing this stops them from reporting you as a runaway and potentially getting a criminal record. File this report away from your parents house. Then request an escort to get your belongings.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "6 weeks ago, my Employer cut my pay by 25% (due to \"COVID19\") until the foreseeable future. I'm a full time, salaried employee in Michigan. But as of this week I have more work to do than ever. What kind of recourse do I have to decline more work being put on my plate? My boss fed me some BS about how the company owes me a raise and that'll happen this year but they dont know when full salaries will come back. I dont trust a word they say and I'm applying to new jobs. But in the meantime I'm pissed about how much work I have to do now. I want to just decline the work and say I'm too busy. I don't care if they fire me; but I don't want to quit and lose out on unemployment. Thanks in advance for any/all advice!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Declining work cuts pretty close to the 'insubordination' line where they could fire you for cause which could cause unemployment to be denied. If this is going to be your path...document, document, document. Send emails detailing your workload and inability to handle the volume before declining new work. With unemployment covering even less than your 25% reduced salary and new jobs not quite hiring at the previous levels, you could also try another strategy prior to lighting that bridge on fire: \"While I am aware of the challenges to the business and reasons for the reduction, I likewise have financial obligations that aren't being met with this reduction, are there other tasks I can cover which can bring me to my previous level of compensation\" It certainly is worth a shot, and if successful will put you in a better position coming out of this thing (new responsibilities typically = more pay/raises...eventually) Meanwhile, keep up the job search.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "6 weeks ago, my Employer cut my pay by 25% (due to \"COVID19\") until the foreseeable future. I'm a full time, salaried employee in Michigan. But as of this week I have more work to do than ever. What kind of recourse do I have to decline more work being put on my plate? My boss fed me some BS about how the company owes me a raise and that'll happen this year but they dont know when full salaries will come back. I dont trust a word they say and I'm applying to new jobs. But in the meantime I'm pissed about how much work I have to do now. I want to just decline the work and say I'm too busy. I don't care if they fire me; but I don't want to quit and lose out on unemployment. Thanks in advance for any/all advice!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "> What kind of recourse do I have to decline more work being put on my plate? No legal recourse. You can either accept or reject. They can either continue to employ or to fire. If firing for insubordination (in this case refusing to do assigned tasks) they can fight UI claim and would likely win. UI is also tiny compared to your salary, at least after late July. You're absolutely not the only one. Cuts of 30%-35% and increased workload is pretty common in the last two months. Also keep in mind that your company by making cuts may last longer than companies that pay more now but are planning on an earlier economic recovery. There's a lot of crystal ball going on here... would you rather have $10,000 a month for 6 months then UI, or $7,500 a month for 18 months, then $10,000 a month, etc.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "6 weeks ago, my Employer cut my pay by 25% (due to \"COVID19\") until the foreseeable future. I'm a full time, salaried employee in Michigan. But as of this week I have more work to do than ever. What kind of recourse do I have to decline more work being put on my plate? My boss fed me some BS about how the company owes me a raise and that'll happen this year but they dont know when full salaries will come back. I dont trust a word they say and I'm applying to new jobs. But in the meantime I'm pissed about how much work I have to do now. I want to just decline the work and say I'm too busy. I don't care if they fire me; but I don't want to quit and lose out on unemployment. Thanks in advance for any/all advice!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Legal recourse? None.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "6 weeks ago, my Employer cut my pay by 25% (due to \"COVID19\") until the foreseeable future. I'm a full time, salaried employee in Michigan. But as of this week I have more work to do than ever. What kind of recourse do I have to decline more work being put on my plate? My boss fed me some BS about how the company owes me a raise and that'll happen this year but they dont know when full salaries will come back. I dont trust a word they say and I'm applying to new jobs. But in the meantime I'm pissed about how much work I have to do now. I want to just decline the work and say I'm too busy. I don't care if they fire me; but I don't want to quit and lose out on unemployment. Thanks in advance for any/all advice!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "As others have suggested: Declining the additional work could get you justifiably fired. UI is 50/50 in this climate. If you're able to collect, in the short term you'll receive better than typical benefits - but once those dry up you'll be looking for a new job in what could be the worst job market in our lifetime. In the big picture: Don't take it personally. Yes, there are bad employers out there. How was this job and management prior to covid? (And really, be honest in that evaluation). These are really unusual times. Very very few industries are unaffected, and the middle-ground companies (those who have been impacted, but not so much that they have to slash their entire payroll at once via mass layoffs) are walking a very fine line. Things need to get done, accounts receivables has probably extended all their terms from N30 to N120 or more, and the company is doing everything possible to survive. It's going to be rough out there for a while. Be caution in your expectations to replace this job with another at better (or equal!) pay right now.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "6 weeks ago, my Employer cut my pay by 25% (due to \"COVID19\") until the foreseeable future. I'm a full time, salaried employee in Michigan. But as of this week I have more work to do than ever. What kind of recourse do I have to decline more work being put on my plate? My boss fed me some BS about how the company owes me a raise and that'll happen this year but they dont know when full salaries will come back. I dont trust a word they say and I'm applying to new jobs. But in the meantime I'm pissed about how much work I have to do now. I want to just decline the work and say I'm too busy. I don't care if they fire me; but I don't want to quit and lose out on unemployment. Thanks in advance for any/all advice!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Declining work cuts pretty close to the 'insubordination' line where they could fire you for cause which could cause unemployment to be denied. If this is going to be your path...document, document, document. Send emails detailing your workload and inability to handle the volume before declining new work. With unemployment covering even less than your 25% reduced salary and new jobs not quite hiring at the previous levels, you could also try another strategy prior to lighting that bridge on fire: \"While I am aware of the challenges to the business and reasons for the reduction, I likewise have financial obligations that aren't being met with this reduction, are there other tasks I can cover which can bring me to my previous level of compensation\" It certainly is worth a shot, and if successful will put you in a better position coming out of this thing (new responsibilities typically = more pay/raises...eventually) Meanwhile, keep up the job search.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "6 weeks ago, my Employer cut my pay by 25% (due to \"COVID19\") until the foreseeable future. I'm a full time, salaried employee in Michigan. But as of this week I have more work to do than ever. What kind of recourse do I have to decline more work being put on my plate? My boss fed me some BS about how the company owes me a raise and that'll happen this year but they dont know when full salaries will come back. I dont trust a word they say and I'm applying to new jobs. But in the meantime I'm pissed about how much work I have to do now. I want to just decline the work and say I'm too busy. I don't care if they fire me; but I don't want to quit and lose out on unemployment. Thanks in advance for any/all advice!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "As others have suggested: Declining the additional work could get you justifiably fired. UI is 50/50 in this climate. If you're able to collect, in the short term you'll receive better than typical benefits - but once those dry up you'll be looking for a new job in what could be the worst job market in our lifetime. In the big picture: Don't take it personally. Yes, there are bad employers out there. How was this job and management prior to covid? (And really, be honest in that evaluation). These are really unusual times. Very very few industries are unaffected, and the middle-ground companies (those who have been impacted, but not so much that they have to slash their entire payroll at once via mass layoffs) are walking a very fine line. Things need to get done, accounts receivables has probably extended all their terms from N30 to N120 or more, and the company is doing everything possible to survive. It's going to be rough out there for a while. Be caution in your expectations to replace this job with another at better (or equal!) pay right now.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "6 weeks ago, my Employer cut my pay by 25% (due to \"COVID19\") until the foreseeable future. I'm a full time, salaried employee in Michigan. But as of this week I have more work to do than ever. What kind of recourse do I have to decline more work being put on my plate? My boss fed me some BS about how the company owes me a raise and that'll happen this year but they dont know when full salaries will come back. I dont trust a word they say and I'm applying to new jobs. But in the meantime I'm pissed about how much work I have to do now. I want to just decline the work and say I'm too busy. I don't care if they fire me; but I don't want to quit and lose out on unemployment. Thanks in advance for any/all advice!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Declining work cuts pretty close to the 'insubordination' line where they could fire you for cause which could cause unemployment to be denied. If this is going to be your path...document, document, document. Send emails detailing your workload and inability to handle the volume before declining new work. With unemployment covering even less than your 25% reduced salary and new jobs not quite hiring at the previous levels, you could also try another strategy prior to lighting that bridge on fire: \"While I am aware of the challenges to the business and reasons for the reduction, I likewise have financial obligations that aren't being met with this reduction, are there other tasks I can cover which can bring me to my previous level of compensation\" It certainly is worth a shot, and if successful will put you in a better position coming out of this thing (new responsibilities typically = more pay/raises...eventually) Meanwhile, keep up the job search.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "6 weeks ago, my Employer cut my pay by 25% (due to \"COVID19\") until the foreseeable future. I'm a full time, salaried employee in Michigan. But as of this week I have more work to do than ever. What kind of recourse do I have to decline more work being put on my plate? My boss fed me some BS about how the company owes me a raise and that'll happen this year but they dont know when full salaries will come back. I dont trust a word they say and I'm applying to new jobs. But in the meantime I'm pissed about how much work I have to do now. I want to just decline the work and say I'm too busy. I don't care if they fire me; but I don't want to quit and lose out on unemployment. Thanks in advance for any/all advice!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "I'm going to point out here that this isn't *necessarily* unreasonable, if your work has increased due to other people being laid off or the reduced pay wasn't because of less work but rather concern about reduced income for the business (e.g., clients who aren't going to be able to pay their bill or will pay net 90 instead of net 30). A lot of people are getting pay cuts right now. However, assuming that it IS unreasonable, I think your best bet is to push back in a professional way, the same way you might push back on being overloaded if you hadn't just gotten a pay cut: \"Boss, I'm currently getting more work than I'm able to get through during the week. Can we talk about how to prioritize this so that the most important stuff is getting done?\" or \"Boss, I'm getting overloaded and I won't be able to get to everything this week. Is there a way to shift some of this to X person? (use this one especially if you know if there are workers who are still getting paid but who have less to do.)", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "6 weeks ago, my Employer cut my pay by 25% (due to \"COVID19\") until the foreseeable future. I'm a full time, salaried employee in Michigan. But as of this week I have more work to do than ever. What kind of recourse do I have to decline more work being put on my plate? My boss fed me some BS about how the company owes me a raise and that'll happen this year but they dont know when full salaries will come back. I dont trust a word they say and I'm applying to new jobs. But in the meantime I'm pissed about how much work I have to do now. I want to just decline the work and say I'm too busy. I don't care if they fire me; but I don't want to quit and lose out on unemployment. Thanks in advance for any/all advice!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Declining work cuts pretty close to the 'insubordination' line where they could fire you for cause which could cause unemployment to be denied. If this is going to be your path...document, document, document. Send emails detailing your workload and inability to handle the volume before declining new work. With unemployment covering even less than your 25% reduced salary and new jobs not quite hiring at the previous levels, you could also try another strategy prior to lighting that bridge on fire: \"While I am aware of the challenges to the business and reasons for the reduction, I likewise have financial obligations that aren't being met with this reduction, are there other tasks I can cover which can bring me to my previous level of compensation\" It certainly is worth a shot, and if successful will put you in a better position coming out of this thing (new responsibilities typically = more pay/raises...eventually) Meanwhile, keep up the job search.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "6 weeks ago, my Employer cut my pay by 25% (due to \"COVID19\") until the foreseeable future. I'm a full time, salaried employee in Michigan. But as of this week I have more work to do than ever. What kind of recourse do I have to decline more work being put on my plate? My boss fed me some BS about how the company owes me a raise and that'll happen this year but they dont know when full salaries will come back. I dont trust a word they say and I'm applying to new jobs. But in the meantime I'm pissed about how much work I have to do now. I want to just decline the work and say I'm too busy. I don't care if they fire me; but I don't want to quit and lose out on unemployment. Thanks in advance for any/all advice!", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Legal recourse? None.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "[MT] My boss sexually harassed me. There are emails, he admitted it to the company and he settled my lawsuit. When he got fired I got fired too because they needed money (my pay) for his severance package. Was it legal?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "I am not a lawyer But pretty sure this is shady as fuck talk to a lawyer.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "[MT] My boss sexually harassed me. There are emails, he admitted it to the company and he settled my lawsuit. When he got fired I got fired too because they needed money (my pay) for his severance package. Was it legal?", "role": "user" }, { "content": "You should consult with an attorney on this one. Legally, they can't terminate you in retaliation for making a sexual harassment complaint, but they may be able to terminate you for other legitimate reasons, and budget reasons could well be legitimate. A consultation with an attorney shouldn't be too expensive, and after giving them all of the pertinent information, they should be able to advise you on what action, if any, you should take based on the specific facts of your case. Also, definitely appeal your unemployment denial; being let go for budget reasons shouldn't disqualify you for unemployment, so either your employer is telling a different story about the reasons for letting you go or your unemployment office is one of those that automatically denies all requests the first time.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "(Indiana) I was fired for refusing to sign an nda after being sexually assaulted at work. Was this legal? I was barred from calling the police after I was sexually assaulted at work. I was also told I had to sign an nda saying I could never call the police, testify in court or tell anyone else I was sexuallying assaulted or I would face a 6 figure penalty. I was told I would get a $4000 bonus. I wasn't given any time to decide. It had to be signed immediately. I wouldn't sign it so I was fired and escorted out by security. I did go to the police. My boss was arrested and charged with battery and sexual battery. Another manager and a security guard were both charged with obstruction of justice because they tried to delete the cctv. My boss, the other manager and the security guard weren't fired, they came back after getting bail. My question now is was it legal for them to fire me because I wouldn't sign the agreement or does at will employment cover them.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Speak to an attorney. This is more complicated than \"was it legal for them to fire me.\" And you can always report to the police.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "(Indiana) I was fired for refusing to sign an nda after being sexually assaulted at work. Was this legal? I was barred from calling the police after I was sexually assaulted at work. I was also told I had to sign an nda saying I could never call the police, testify in court or tell anyone else I was sexuallying assaulted or I would face a 6 figure penalty. I was told I would get a $4000 bonus. I wasn't given any time to decide. It had to be signed immediately. I wouldn't sign it so I was fired and escorted out by security. I did go to the police. My boss was arrested and charged with battery and sexual battery. Another manager and a security guard were both charged with obstruction of justice because they tried to delete the cctv. My boss, the other manager and the security guard weren't fired, they came back after getting bail. My question now is was it legal for them to fire me because I wouldn't sign the agreement or does at will employment cover them.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "You need a good employment law attorney immediately.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "(Indiana) I was fired for refusing to sign an nda after being sexually assaulted at work. Was this legal? I was barred from calling the police after I was sexually assaulted at work. I was also told I had to sign an nda saying I could never call the police, testify in court or tell anyone else I was sexuallying assaulted or I would face a 6 figure penalty. I was told I would get a $4000 bonus. I wasn't given any time to decide. It had to be signed immediately. I wouldn't sign it so I was fired and escorted out by security. I did go to the police. My boss was arrested and charged with battery and sexual battery. Another manager and a security guard were both charged with obstruction of justice because they tried to delete the cctv. My boss, the other manager and the security guard weren't fired, they came back after getting bail. My question now is was it legal for them to fire me because I wouldn't sign the agreement or does at will employment cover them.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "No, that was certainly an unlawful termination. You should consult an employment lawyer ASAP.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "(Indiana) I was fired for refusing to sign an nda after being sexually assaulted at work. Was this legal? I was barred from calling the police after I was sexually assaulted at work. I was also told I had to sign an nda saying I could never call the police, testify in court or tell anyone else I was sexuallying assaulted or I would face a 6 figure penalty. I was told I would get a $4000 bonus. I wasn't given any time to decide. It had to be signed immediately. I wouldn't sign it so I was fired and escorted out by security. I did go to the police. My boss was arrested and charged with battery and sexual battery. Another manager and a security guard were both charged with obstruction of justice because they tried to delete the cctv. My boss, the other manager and the security guard weren't fired, they came back after getting bail. My question now is was it legal for them to fire me because I wouldn't sign the agreement or does at will employment cover them.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "You need a good employment law attorney immediately.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "(Indiana) I was fired for refusing to sign an nda after being sexually assaulted at work. Was this legal? I was barred from calling the police after I was sexually assaulted at work. I was also told I had to sign an nda saying I could never call the police, testify in court or tell anyone else I was sexuallying assaulted or I would face a 6 figure penalty. I was told I would get a $4000 bonus. I wasn't given any time to decide. It had to be signed immediately. I wouldn't sign it so I was fired and escorted out by security. I did go to the police. My boss was arrested and charged with battery and sexual battery. Another manager and a security guard were both charged with obstruction of justice because they tried to delete the cctv. My boss, the other manager and the security guard weren't fired, they came back after getting bail. My question now is was it legal for them to fire me because I wouldn't sign the agreement or does at will employment cover them.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Speak to an attorney. This is more complicated than \"was it legal for them to fire me.\" And you can always report to the police.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "(Indiana) I was fired for refusing to sign an nda after being sexually assaulted at work. Was this legal? I was barred from calling the police after I was sexually assaulted at work. I was also told I had to sign an nda saying I could never call the police, testify in court or tell anyone else I was sexuallying assaulted or I would face a 6 figure penalty. I was told I would get a $4000 bonus. I wasn't given any time to decide. It had to be signed immediately. I wouldn't sign it so I was fired and escorted out by security. I did go to the police. My boss was arrested and charged with battery and sexual battery. Another manager and a security guard were both charged with obstruction of justice because they tried to delete the cctv. My boss, the other manager and the security guard weren't fired, they came back after getting bail. My question now is was it legal for them to fire me because I wouldn't sign the agreement or does at will employment cover them.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Your description of the aftermath is short and to the point, which is great. Write up a description just like it with a timeline of the actual incident to as well as any details you remember from the agreement they tried to have you sign. Call several attorneys in your state and give them the general rundown, see who bites. Use their response as an indicator of how much of a case you have, but don't sign paperwork with an attorney that you feel is steamrolling you. There are thousands in your state, it's possible you're going to make one of them a lot of money.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "(Indiana) I was fired for refusing to sign an nda after being sexually assaulted at work. Was this legal? I was barred from calling the police after I was sexually assaulted at work. I was also told I had to sign an nda saying I could never call the police, testify in court or tell anyone else I was sexuallying assaulted or I would face a 6 figure penalty. I was told I would get a $4000 bonus. I wasn't given any time to decide. It had to be signed immediately. I wouldn't sign it so I was fired and escorted out by security. I did go to the police. My boss was arrested and charged with battery and sexual battery. Another manager and a security guard were both charged with obstruction of justice because they tried to delete the cctv. My boss, the other manager and the security guard weren't fired, they came back after getting bail. My question now is was it legal for them to fire me because I wouldn't sign the agreement or does at will employment cover them.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "No, that was certainly an unlawful termination. You should consult an employment lawyer ASAP.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "(Indiana) I was fired for refusing to sign an nda after being sexually assaulted at work. Was this legal? I was barred from calling the police after I was sexually assaulted at work. I was also told I had to sign an nda saying I could never call the police, testify in court or tell anyone else I was sexuallying assaulted or I would face a 6 figure penalty. I was told I would get a $4000 bonus. I wasn't given any time to decide. It had to be signed immediately. I wouldn't sign it so I was fired and escorted out by security. I did go to the police. My boss was arrested and charged with battery and sexual battery. Another manager and a security guard were both charged with obstruction of justice because they tried to delete the cctv. My boss, the other manager and the security guard weren't fired, they came back after getting bail. My question now is was it legal for them to fire me because I wouldn't sign the agreement or does at will employment cover them.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Your description of the aftermath is short and to the point, which is great. Write up a description just like it with a timeline of the actual incident to as well as any details you remember from the agreement they tried to have you sign. Call several attorneys in your state and give them the general rundown, see who bites. Use their response as an indicator of how much of a case you have, but don't sign paperwork with an attorney that you feel is steamrolling you. There are thousands in your state, it's possible you're going to make one of them a lot of money.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "(Indiana) I was fired for refusing to sign an nda after being sexually assaulted at work. Was this legal? I was barred from calling the police after I was sexually assaulted at work. I was also told I had to sign an nda saying I could never call the police, testify in court or tell anyone else I was sexuallying assaulted or I would face a 6 figure penalty. I was told I would get a $4000 bonus. I wasn't given any time to decide. It had to be signed immediately. I wouldn't sign it so I was fired and escorted out by security. I did go to the police. My boss was arrested and charged with battery and sexual battery. Another manager and a security guard were both charged with obstruction of justice because they tried to delete the cctv. My boss, the other manager and the security guard weren't fired, they came back after getting bail. My question now is was it legal for them to fire me because I wouldn't sign the agreement or does at will employment cover them.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Speak to an attorney. This is more complicated than \"was it legal for them to fire me.\" And you can always report to the police.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "(Indiana) I was fired for refusing to sign an nda after being sexually assaulted at work. Was this legal? I was barred from calling the police after I was sexually assaulted at work. I was also told I had to sign an nda saying I could never call the police, testify in court or tell anyone else I was sexuallying assaulted or I would face a 6 figure penalty. I was told I would get a $4000 bonus. I wasn't given any time to decide. It had to be signed immediately. I wouldn't sign it so I was fired and escorted out by security. I did go to the police. My boss was arrested and charged with battery and sexual battery. Another manager and a security guard were both charged with obstruction of justice because they tried to delete the cctv. My boss, the other manager and the security guard weren't fired, they came back after getting bail. My question now is was it legal for them to fire me because I wouldn't sign the agreement or does at will employment cover them.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "As everyone else said, employment attorney, now. For what it's worth though, while you're correct in not signing, the NDA would likely be unenforceable if you had signed it. NDAs legally cannot be used to prevent you from reporting criminal activity, especially that in which you're the victim.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Stepfather was fired unexpectedly and has been refused a reason for his termination. Boss's son now gets his contracts, is this wrongful termination? We live in Huntsville, AL and this happened last week. My stepfather works at a printer/office supply renting leasing type company and he and my mom had just returned from vacation and when he went back to work they fired him, and although he asked their reasoning, they refused to explain. Now, his friends at the job have told him that all the contracts he had sold and negotiated were being passed on to the boss's son, and he is making easy money because of it. I was just wondering if this could qualify as wrongful termination because as far as anyone can tell, the only reason he was fired was so that the boss's son didn't actually have to work to sell anything and he could get paid commission for all the contracts that are soon to come back up that my stepdad was previously in charge of. I couldn't find anything in the AL or federal state codes but I did only give it a topical review. We plan on trying to set up a meeting in order to at least give the boss a chance to explain if there were other factors at play but, being as he was among their top salesman, had won them contracts with several large companies, and had a spotless record, I don't know of any other reason for him to be dropped.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Did your father have an employment contract?", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Stepfather was fired unexpectedly and has been refused a reason for his termination. Boss's son now gets his contracts, is this wrongful termination? We live in Huntsville, AL and this happened last week. My stepfather works at a printer/office supply renting leasing type company and he and my mom had just returned from vacation and when he went back to work they fired him, and although he asked their reasoning, they refused to explain. Now, his friends at the job have told him that all the contracts he had sold and negotiated were being passed on to the boss's son, and he is making easy money because of it. I was just wondering if this could qualify as wrongful termination because as far as anyone can tell, the only reason he was fired was so that the boss's son didn't actually have to work to sell anything and he could get paid commission for all the contracts that are soon to come back up that my stepdad was previously in charge of. I couldn't find anything in the AL or federal state codes but I did only give it a topical review. We plan on trying to set up a meeting in order to at least give the boss a chance to explain if there were other factors at play but, being as he was among their top salesman, had won them contracts with several large companies, and had a spotless record, I don't know of any other reason for him to be dropped.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Nope. At-will employment. He can be fired for no reason at all.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Stepfather was fired unexpectedly and has been refused a reason for his termination. Boss's son now gets his contracts, is this wrongful termination? We live in Huntsville, AL and this happened last week. My stepfather works at a printer/office supply renting leasing type company and he and my mom had just returned from vacation and when he went back to work they fired him, and although he asked their reasoning, they refused to explain. Now, his friends at the job have told him that all the contracts he had sold and negotiated were being passed on to the boss's son, and he is making easy money because of it. I was just wondering if this could qualify as wrongful termination because as far as anyone can tell, the only reason he was fired was so that the boss's son didn't actually have to work to sell anything and he could get paid commission for all the contracts that are soon to come back up that my stepdad was previously in charge of. I couldn't find anything in the AL or federal state codes but I did only give it a topical review. We plan on trying to set up a meeting in order to at least give the boss a chance to explain if there were other factors at play but, being as he was among their top salesman, had won them contracts with several large companies, and had a spotless record, I don't know of any other reason for him to be dropped.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Did your father have an employment contract?", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Stepfather was fired unexpectedly and has been refused a reason for his termination. Boss's son now gets his contracts, is this wrongful termination? We live in Huntsville, AL and this happened last week. My stepfather works at a printer/office supply renting leasing type company and he and my mom had just returned from vacation and when he went back to work they fired him, and although he asked their reasoning, they refused to explain. Now, his friends at the job have told him that all the contracts he had sold and negotiated were being passed on to the boss's son, and he is making easy money because of it. I was just wondering if this could qualify as wrongful termination because as far as anyone can tell, the only reason he was fired was so that the boss's son didn't actually have to work to sell anything and he could get paid commission for all the contracts that are soon to come back up that my stepdad was previously in charge of. I couldn't find anything in the AL or federal state codes but I did only give it a topical review. We plan on trying to set up a meeting in order to at least give the boss a chance to explain if there were other factors at play but, being as he was among their top salesman, had won them contracts with several large companies, and had a spotless record, I don't know of any other reason for him to be dropped.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "If your stepfather is over 40 he should consult an employment lawyer who handles employee cases to determine if he has an age discrimination case. He may have a very good case.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Stepfather was fired unexpectedly and has been refused a reason for his termination. Boss's son now gets his contracts, is this wrongful termination? We live in Huntsville, AL and this happened last week. My stepfather works at a printer/office supply renting leasing type company and he and my mom had just returned from vacation and when he went back to work they fired him, and although he asked their reasoning, they refused to explain. Now, his friends at the job have told him that all the contracts he had sold and negotiated were being passed on to the boss's son, and he is making easy money because of it. I was just wondering if this could qualify as wrongful termination because as far as anyone can tell, the only reason he was fired was so that the boss's son didn't actually have to work to sell anything and he could get paid commission for all the contracts that are soon to come back up that my stepdad was previously in charge of. I couldn't find anything in the AL or federal state codes but I did only give it a topical review. We plan on trying to set up a meeting in order to at least give the boss a chance to explain if there were other factors at play but, being as he was among their top salesman, had won them contracts with several large companies, and had a spotless record, I don't know of any other reason for him to be dropped.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Unless your stepfather had an employment contract for a specified term that was not honored, he likely has no rights. If he was on commission, he might be entitled to income from sales in progress, but that would depend on the wording of his contract.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Stepfather was fired unexpectedly and has been refused a reason for his termination. Boss's son now gets his contracts, is this wrongful termination? We live in Huntsville, AL and this happened last week. My stepfather works at a printer/office supply renting leasing type company and he and my mom had just returned from vacation and when he went back to work they fired him, and although he asked their reasoning, they refused to explain. Now, his friends at the job have told him that all the contracts he had sold and negotiated were being passed on to the boss's son, and he is making easy money because of it. I was just wondering if this could qualify as wrongful termination because as far as anyone can tell, the only reason he was fired was so that the boss's son didn't actually have to work to sell anything and he could get paid commission for all the contracts that are soon to come back up that my stepdad was previously in charge of. I couldn't find anything in the AL or federal state codes but I did only give it a topical review. We plan on trying to set up a meeting in order to at least give the boss a chance to explain if there were other factors at play but, being as he was among their top salesman, had won them contracts with several large companies, and had a spotless record, I don't know of any other reason for him to be dropped.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "If your stepfather is over 40 he should consult an employment lawyer who handles employee cases to determine if he has an age discrimination case. He may have a very good case.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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[ { "content": "Stepfather was fired unexpectedly and has been refused a reason for his termination. Boss's son now gets his contracts, is this wrongful termination? We live in Huntsville, AL and this happened last week. My stepfather works at a printer/office supply renting leasing type company and he and my mom had just returned from vacation and when he went back to work they fired him, and although he asked their reasoning, they refused to explain. Now, his friends at the job have told him that all the contracts he had sold and negotiated were being passed on to the boss's son, and he is making easy money because of it. I was just wondering if this could qualify as wrongful termination because as far as anyone can tell, the only reason he was fired was so that the boss's son didn't actually have to work to sell anything and he could get paid commission for all the contracts that are soon to come back up that my stepdad was previously in charge of. I couldn't find anything in the AL or federal state codes but I did only give it a topical review. We plan on trying to set up a meeting in order to at least give the boss a chance to explain if there were other factors at play but, being as he was among their top salesman, had won them contracts with several large companies, and had a spotless record, I don't know of any other reason for him to be dropped.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "Unless your stepfather had an employment contract for a specified term that was not honored, he likely has no rights. If he was on commission, he might be entitled to income from sales in progress, but that would depend on the wording of his contract.", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "Stepfather was fired unexpectedly and has been refused a reason for his termination. Boss's son now gets his contracts, is this wrongful termination? We live in Huntsville, AL and this happened last week. My stepfather works at a printer/office supply renting leasing type company and he and my mom had just returned from vacation and when he went back to work they fired him, and although he asked their reasoning, they refused to explain. Now, his friends at the job have told him that all the contracts he had sold and negotiated were being passed on to the boss's son, and he is making easy money because of it. I was just wondering if this could qualify as wrongful termination because as far as anyone can tell, the only reason he was fired was so that the boss's son didn't actually have to work to sell anything and he could get paid commission for all the contracts that are soon to come back up that my stepdad was previously in charge of. I couldn't find anything in the AL or federal state codes but I did only give it a topical review. We plan on trying to set up a meeting in order to at least give the boss a chance to explain if there were other factors at play but, being as he was among their top salesman, had won them contracts with several large companies, and had a spotless record, I don't know of any other reason for him to be dropped.", "role": "user" }, { "content": "I'd simply start selling for a competitor. If hes good at sales, he can steal the contracts. Plus he already knows what they are paying.", "role": "assistant" } ]
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