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I'm 16 and pregnant and about to give birth in 3 weeks. My mom says she controls who goes into the delivery room. I told her that it's my right to choose who I want in there. Is she right about being able to control who goes in there? (California) Sorry for formatting I'm on mobile. So I'm about to be due in 3 weeks and I want specific family members to be able to see me when I want and how long it should be because I know it's going to be really stressful. I tried to tell my mom but she said that I have no rights in who I say goes in or not and that since she's the parent that she decides who sees me and who doesn't. I'm just really worried about that because she will exclude almost all of my dad's side of the family (they've been separated and pretty much hate each other) even though they've helped out when my mom kicked me out of the house for a little over a month. I even told her that I don't want her there and I would rather be alone in the room if that makes everyone happy but she still says that I have no rights. I know it's really stupid but I don't want to stress out anymore than I already am and I just want to know ahead of time so that I can tell my doctor and the hospital before hand but I haven't been able to call them about this because I don't want to be told that "she's my mother do what she says" you know?
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She is wrong. The choice is yours, within the limits set by the hospital.
Do you currently live with your mother? Is she going to be bringing you to the hospital? If so, and you don't have a less-stressful option, don't announce your plan to bar her from the room and to invite whomever you want. If you want to discuss with the L&D people, make sure that as a minor, your privacy regarding conversations with a physician are not revealed to your mom.
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My former landlord just contacted me saying that he did found an old rent check that he allowed to go stale. He was unable to deposit it because it was written over 2 years ago. He wants me to write him another check. Am I required to do so? (Oregon, USA) I lived in that house for about 2 years on a month to month basis. I paid my rent monthly in the form a personal check made out to my landlord. He usually deposited them within one month, however he somehow forgot or neglected to deposit a check from 2015, and just noticed it this week. I never noticed that he didn't deposit the check. My former landlord sent me a photo of the check, so I have proof that I wrote it. He informed me that the bank would not honor the check because of its age, and that he'd like me to write another. I checked my bank statements, and I know that the check was not deposited. I would guess that there's some law saying what my obligation is here, but I couldn't find it. All I found was that banks generally don't honor checks that are over 6 months old, however I could not find anything regarding whether or not I still legally owe him money. I feel that I upheld my end of the deal by writing the check and it's his fault that he didn't deposit it. Am I required to write another check? Can someone hold onto a check indefinitely to deposit whenever they wish, or does the debt "expire" after some time? Thanks for your help.
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If the amount you owed was so low that you could somehow just *not notice* the check hadn't been cashed for two years, you can afford to pay him.
Legally, as abortion_layaway has stated, you probably are in the clear. However, if your relationship was good and he didn't screw you over with regard to security deposit and the like, it would be morally good to pay him. I would ask for the original check back in return as he could probably deposit in an ATM and it would go through without ever being noticed by a human if your account is still open. If he's local, perhaps do the exchange in person.
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My former landlord just contacted me saying that he did found an old rent check that he allowed to go stale. He was unable to deposit it because it was written over 2 years ago. He wants me to write him another check. Am I required to do so? (Oregon, USA) I lived in that house for about 2 years on a month to month basis. I paid my rent monthly in the form a personal check made out to my landlord. He usually deposited them within one month, however he somehow forgot or neglected to deposit a check from 2015, and just noticed it this week. I never noticed that he didn't deposit the check. My former landlord sent me a photo of the check, so I have proof that I wrote it. He informed me that the bank would not honor the check because of its age, and that he'd like me to write another. I checked my bank statements, and I know that the check was not deposited. I would guess that there's some law saying what my obligation is here, but I couldn't find it. All I found was that banks generally don't honor checks that are over 6 months old, however I could not find anything regarding whether or not I still legally owe him money. I feel that I upheld my end of the deal by writing the check and it's his fault that he didn't deposit it. Am I required to write another check? Can someone hold onto a check indefinitely to deposit whenever they wish, or does the debt "expire" after some time? Thanks for your help.
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If the amount you owed was so low that you could somehow just *not notice* the check hadn't been cashed for two years, you can afford to pay him.
Have him send you the old cheque back and write him a new one if you left on good terms.
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My former landlord just contacted me saying that he did found an old rent check that he allowed to go stale. He was unable to deposit it because it was written over 2 years ago. He wants me to write him another check. Am I required to do so? (Oregon, USA) I lived in that house for about 2 years on a month to month basis. I paid my rent monthly in the form a personal check made out to my landlord. He usually deposited them within one month, however he somehow forgot or neglected to deposit a check from 2015, and just noticed it this week. I never noticed that he didn't deposit the check. My former landlord sent me a photo of the check, so I have proof that I wrote it. He informed me that the bank would not honor the check because of its age, and that he'd like me to write another. I checked my bank statements, and I know that the check was not deposited. I would guess that there's some law saying what my obligation is here, but I couldn't find it. All I found was that banks generally don't honor checks that are over 6 months old, however I could not find anything regarding whether or not I still legally owe him money. I feel that I upheld my end of the deal by writing the check and it's his fault that he didn't deposit it. Am I required to write another check? Can someone hold onto a check indefinitely to deposit whenever they wish, or does the debt "expire" after some time? Thanks for your help.
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Look at your account and just make sure that that check # was not cashed just in case btw.
If the amount you owed was so low that you could somehow just *not notice* the check hadn't been cashed for two years, you can afford to pay him.
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My former landlord just contacted me saying that he did found an old rent check that he allowed to go stale. He was unable to deposit it because it was written over 2 years ago. He wants me to write him another check. Am I required to do so? (Oregon, USA) I lived in that house for about 2 years on a month to month basis. I paid my rent monthly in the form a personal check made out to my landlord. He usually deposited them within one month, however he somehow forgot or neglected to deposit a check from 2015, and just noticed it this week. I never noticed that he didn't deposit the check. My former landlord sent me a photo of the check, so I have proof that I wrote it. He informed me that the bank would not honor the check because of its age, and that he'd like me to write another. I checked my bank statements, and I know that the check was not deposited. I would guess that there's some law saying what my obligation is here, but I couldn't find it. All I found was that banks generally don't honor checks that are over 6 months old, however I could not find anything regarding whether or not I still legally owe him money. I feel that I upheld my end of the deal by writing the check and it's his fault that he didn't deposit it. Am I required to write another check? Can someone hold onto a check indefinitely to deposit whenever they wish, or does the debt "expire" after some time? Thanks for your help.
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In addition to the other advice in this thread, definitely DON'T just ignore anything sent to you that relates to the situation simply because you have the legal upper hand. For example, if LL did file a lawsuit and you did not respond to the complaint or show up at the hearing, a default judgement could be entered against you and then you would be obligated to pay. That could be appealed but, imo, not worth the hassle of not reading your mail. Best of luck if LL escalates.
Look at your account and just make sure that that check # was not cashed just in case btw.
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My former landlord just contacted me saying that he did found an old rent check that he allowed to go stale. He was unable to deposit it because it was written over 2 years ago. He wants me to write him another check. Am I required to do so? (Oregon, USA) I lived in that house for about 2 years on a month to month basis. I paid my rent monthly in the form a personal check made out to my landlord. He usually deposited them within one month, however he somehow forgot or neglected to deposit a check from 2015, and just noticed it this week. I never noticed that he didn't deposit the check. My former landlord sent me a photo of the check, so I have proof that I wrote it. He informed me that the bank would not honor the check because of its age, and that he'd like me to write another. I checked my bank statements, and I know that the check was not deposited. I would guess that there's some law saying what my obligation is here, but I couldn't find it. All I found was that banks generally don't honor checks that are over 6 months old, however I could not find anything regarding whether or not I still legally owe him money. I feel that I upheld my end of the deal by writing the check and it's his fault that he didn't deposit it. Am I required to write another check? Can someone hold onto a check indefinitely to deposit whenever they wish, or does the debt "expire" after some time? Thanks for your help.
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If the amount you owed was so low that you could somehow just *not notice* the check hadn't been cashed for two years, you can afford to pay him.
In addition to the other advice in this thread, definitely DON'T just ignore anything sent to you that relates to the situation simply because you have the legal upper hand. For example, if LL did file a lawsuit and you did not respond to the complaint or show up at the hearing, a default judgement could be entered against you and then you would be obligated to pay. That could be appealed but, imo, not worth the hassle of not reading your mail. Best of luck if LL escalates.
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I'm being sued for "parental alienation" of my (technically) adult children by my ex. How worried should I be right now? CA I’m the mom of two amazing 18 year olds, and recently divorced. (Yay!!) Coming from a divorced family, I knew how important it was to encourage my kids to stay close with their dad, because no matter how difficult he can be sometimes (or no matter how I feel about him), he’s still their dad. Since I was the one who initiated the divorce, I moved out of the family home and into a smaller house with my sister, which had two attic rooms for the kids, as I of course hoped they would visit frequently. Instead, they decided on moving in with me and their aunt, and we’ve just loved having them with us for their last year of school. Since the twins turned 18 back in August, there was no custody assigned, and since they were already in their senior year, we opted to forgo discussing child support. After the three of us left the old house in September, the kids would go back every week for dinner with their dad. They always came back upset, and in the beginning I encouraged them to go for the aforementioned reason, but as time went on, they said that the visits were getting more and more difficult, and they decided together to stop going, which I didn’t push, as they’re adults now, and I more than understand not wanting to spend quality time with my ex. They continued to attend family holidays with their father and grandmother, as they were extremely close to my wonderful former mother in law. Sadly, my former MIL passed away shortly before Easter. Since their grandmother wouldn’t be there, the kids didn’t want to do Easter with their dad. This didn’t seem all too crazy to me. I didn't really put together at the time that this meant they didn't really have any contact with their dad. Yesterday, I was served with a lawsuit for “parental alienation”. When I called my ex, confused, he told me that since the kids refused to speak to/spend time with him, the “only possible explanation” is that I “purposefully and over the course of several months plotted to sever the bonds between a father and his children”. The conversation predictably went south and I hung up. I called the lawyer I used to represent me in the divorce, and she told me that since I’ve been served, that I have to respond, but that I “shouldn’t be too worried” because my ex is “clearly a moron” and “has no standing”. She then said that she couldn’t discuss it further without billing me, and gave me a ballpark for how much it would cost to have her defend me against the suit. I absolutely cannot afford it. I am completely tapped out after the divorce. I know that if I asked my sister, she’d be happy to help as much as she could, and we could probably scrape it together. But I hate hate hate the idea of asking unless I absolutely have to. So my question is, do I have to? Under the circumstances, should I be worried about this? I know that my ex will represent himself, as he did in the divorce, since he doesn’t trust lawyers. That went pretty badly for him last time (he didn’t get any of what he asked for, got scolded by the judge for his bad behavior, and he was also ordered to help me and the kids pay for their college). Would it be a terrible idea to just go and try to defend myself? I feel like I have ample evidence that I tried to help my kids keep a relationship with their dad, months and months worth of texts. If I asked them, I know they would also give me their text histories with their dad, which I know firsthand is…really mean. (He gets flustered very easily and becomes, in my opinion, verbally abusive when upset, hence the divorce.) I feel like if I go in front of a judge with printouts of all the evidence I have, am clear and polite, and read up on the basics of court procedure, I’ll be ok. My ex is…let’s just say bombastic enough that I think just his behavior will be enough to show a judge that our kids have ample independent reason to keep him at arm’s length. Is this a stupid plan? Do I NEED to beg money to pay for a lawyer, or is this a pointless enough lawsuit that I can hand it myself, under the circumstances? Many thanks for reading. Tl;dr: my 18 year olds don't want to have a relationship with my not-so-nice ex, so I'm being sued for parental alienation. Can I defend myself against this, or do I need to beg money from family and pay a lawyer?
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Make real sure you know how to get electronic records admitted. You're going to have to be ready to authenticate the printed out text messages and emails. No idea what the rule is in your state, but they just changed it in MO and now nobody knows what the fuck is going on.
Genuine question for the lawyers here...... Since the ex-husband is the one making the allegation, doesn't the burden of proof fall to him to *prove* that she is supposedly alienating the twins? And I mean more proof than him standing there going, "Well, she must have because my kids don't want to see my any more!" It seems to me that that would not be considered proof, merely an opinion. If OP walks in there with printed out verbally abusive texts, and the twins saying "He's just an asshole and we have decided we don't want to see him" it seems that would be more than enough. And wouldn't a judge consider the twins old enough to make up their own minds? They're teenagers, part of me feels even if OP said "Don't go to your father's, he's an asshole!" they would because most teenagers seize the opportunity to do what their parents don't want them to. :)
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I'm being sued for "parental alienation" of my (technically) adult children by my ex. How worried should I be right now? CA I’m the mom of two amazing 18 year olds, and recently divorced. (Yay!!) Coming from a divorced family, I knew how important it was to encourage my kids to stay close with their dad, because no matter how difficult he can be sometimes (or no matter how I feel about him), he’s still their dad. Since I was the one who initiated the divorce, I moved out of the family home and into a smaller house with my sister, which had two attic rooms for the kids, as I of course hoped they would visit frequently. Instead, they decided on moving in with me and their aunt, and we’ve just loved having them with us for their last year of school. Since the twins turned 18 back in August, there was no custody assigned, and since they were already in their senior year, we opted to forgo discussing child support. After the three of us left the old house in September, the kids would go back every week for dinner with their dad. They always came back upset, and in the beginning I encouraged them to go for the aforementioned reason, but as time went on, they said that the visits were getting more and more difficult, and they decided together to stop going, which I didn’t push, as they’re adults now, and I more than understand not wanting to spend quality time with my ex. They continued to attend family holidays with their father and grandmother, as they were extremely close to my wonderful former mother in law. Sadly, my former MIL passed away shortly before Easter. Since their grandmother wouldn’t be there, the kids didn’t want to do Easter with their dad. This didn’t seem all too crazy to me. I didn't really put together at the time that this meant they didn't really have any contact with their dad. Yesterday, I was served with a lawsuit for “parental alienation”. When I called my ex, confused, he told me that since the kids refused to speak to/spend time with him, the “only possible explanation” is that I “purposefully and over the course of several months plotted to sever the bonds between a father and his children”. The conversation predictably went south and I hung up. I called the lawyer I used to represent me in the divorce, and she told me that since I’ve been served, that I have to respond, but that I “shouldn’t be too worried” because my ex is “clearly a moron” and “has no standing”. She then said that she couldn’t discuss it further without billing me, and gave me a ballpark for how much it would cost to have her defend me against the suit. I absolutely cannot afford it. I am completely tapped out after the divorce. I know that if I asked my sister, she’d be happy to help as much as she could, and we could probably scrape it together. But I hate hate hate the idea of asking unless I absolutely have to. So my question is, do I have to? Under the circumstances, should I be worried about this? I know that my ex will represent himself, as he did in the divorce, since he doesn’t trust lawyers. That went pretty badly for him last time (he didn’t get any of what he asked for, got scolded by the judge for his bad behavior, and he was also ordered to help me and the kids pay for their college). Would it be a terrible idea to just go and try to defend myself? I feel like I have ample evidence that I tried to help my kids keep a relationship with their dad, months and months worth of texts. If I asked them, I know they would also give me their text histories with their dad, which I know firsthand is…really mean. (He gets flustered very easily and becomes, in my opinion, verbally abusive when upset, hence the divorce.) I feel like if I go in front of a judge with printouts of all the evidence I have, am clear and polite, and read up on the basics of court procedure, I’ll be ok. My ex is…let’s just say bombastic enough that I think just his behavior will be enough to show a judge that our kids have ample independent reason to keep him at arm’s length. Is this a stupid plan? Do I NEED to beg money to pay for a lawyer, or is this a pointless enough lawsuit that I can hand it myself, under the circumstances? Many thanks for reading. Tl;dr: my 18 year olds don't want to have a relationship with my not-so-nice ex, so I'm being sued for parental alienation. Can I defend myself against this, or do I need to beg money from family and pay a lawyer?
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Genuine question for the lawyers here...... Since the ex-husband is the one making the allegation, doesn't the burden of proof fall to him to *prove* that she is supposedly alienating the twins? And I mean more proof than him standing there going, "Well, she must have because my kids don't want to see my any more!" It seems to me that that would not be considered proof, merely an opinion. If OP walks in there with printed out verbally abusive texts, and the twins saying "He's just an asshole and we have decided we don't want to see him" it seems that would be more than enough. And wouldn't a judge consider the twins old enough to make up their own minds? They're teenagers, part of me feels even if OP said "Don't go to your father's, he's an asshole!" they would because most teenagers seize the opportunity to do what their parents don't want them to. :)
Although many others have said you would be stupid to have a lawyer, for silly issues like this that are going to be handled in family court, often with a judge who is familiar with your case, a lawyer is not necessary unless he too has a lawyer.
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I'm being sued for "parental alienation" of my (technically) adult children by my ex. How worried should I be right now? CA I’m the mom of two amazing 18 year olds, and recently divorced. (Yay!!) Coming from a divorced family, I knew how important it was to encourage my kids to stay close with their dad, because no matter how difficult he can be sometimes (or no matter how I feel about him), he’s still their dad. Since I was the one who initiated the divorce, I moved out of the family home and into a smaller house with my sister, which had two attic rooms for the kids, as I of course hoped they would visit frequently. Instead, they decided on moving in with me and their aunt, and we’ve just loved having them with us for their last year of school. Since the twins turned 18 back in August, there was no custody assigned, and since they were already in their senior year, we opted to forgo discussing child support. After the three of us left the old house in September, the kids would go back every week for dinner with their dad. They always came back upset, and in the beginning I encouraged them to go for the aforementioned reason, but as time went on, they said that the visits were getting more and more difficult, and they decided together to stop going, which I didn’t push, as they’re adults now, and I more than understand not wanting to spend quality time with my ex. They continued to attend family holidays with their father and grandmother, as they were extremely close to my wonderful former mother in law. Sadly, my former MIL passed away shortly before Easter. Since their grandmother wouldn’t be there, the kids didn’t want to do Easter with their dad. This didn’t seem all too crazy to me. I didn't really put together at the time that this meant they didn't really have any contact with their dad. Yesterday, I was served with a lawsuit for “parental alienation”. When I called my ex, confused, he told me that since the kids refused to speak to/spend time with him, the “only possible explanation” is that I “purposefully and over the course of several months plotted to sever the bonds between a father and his children”. The conversation predictably went south and I hung up. I called the lawyer I used to represent me in the divorce, and she told me that since I’ve been served, that I have to respond, but that I “shouldn’t be too worried” because my ex is “clearly a moron” and “has no standing”. She then said that she couldn’t discuss it further without billing me, and gave me a ballpark for how much it would cost to have her defend me against the suit. I absolutely cannot afford it. I am completely tapped out after the divorce. I know that if I asked my sister, she’d be happy to help as much as she could, and we could probably scrape it together. But I hate hate hate the idea of asking unless I absolutely have to. So my question is, do I have to? Under the circumstances, should I be worried about this? I know that my ex will represent himself, as he did in the divorce, since he doesn’t trust lawyers. That went pretty badly for him last time (he didn’t get any of what he asked for, got scolded by the judge for his bad behavior, and he was also ordered to help me and the kids pay for their college). Would it be a terrible idea to just go and try to defend myself? I feel like I have ample evidence that I tried to help my kids keep a relationship with their dad, months and months worth of texts. If I asked them, I know they would also give me their text histories with their dad, which I know firsthand is…really mean. (He gets flustered very easily and becomes, in my opinion, verbally abusive when upset, hence the divorce.) I feel like if I go in front of a judge with printouts of all the evidence I have, am clear and polite, and read up on the basics of court procedure, I’ll be ok. My ex is…let’s just say bombastic enough that I think just his behavior will be enough to show a judge that our kids have ample independent reason to keep him at arm’s length. Is this a stupid plan? Do I NEED to beg money to pay for a lawyer, or is this a pointless enough lawsuit that I can hand it myself, under the circumstances? Many thanks for reading. Tl;dr: my 18 year olds don't want to have a relationship with my not-so-nice ex, so I'm being sued for parental alienation. Can I defend myself against this, or do I need to beg money from family and pay a lawyer?
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Although many others have said you would be stupid to have a lawyer, for silly issues like this that are going to be handled in family court, often with a judge who is familiar with your case, a lawyer is not necessary unless he too has a lawyer.
It's a pretty ridiculous claim. Most likely a judge will ream out your ex for his stupidity, without you bringing a lawyer. Explain to the judge that finances make it difficult for you to hire a lawyer every time your ex's feelings are hurt.
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(MO)Served with a restraining order for my sister and her children. I haven’t seen/spoken with her for months: She claims my mothers residence is hers and now I can’t go to my elderly mothers house anymore. She doesn’t live there. This is the same sister who used technology and key logging software to stalk; harass and terrorize myself and my infant daughter almost one year ago now. I took my daughter on vacation and when we left for Disney World, everything was fine we were bffs again whatever. I made the mistake of trusting her to check on my home while we were away and was surprised to get a call from my landlord asking why there is a family of six suddenly living in my home and using my space, clothing, everything down to the shampoo she watered down so I wouldn’t notice, please. Apparently, she was seeing a new boyfriend and pretending that she lived in my home and acted like it was her own. I caught on when I noticed the family photos were turned around and some other smaller nuisances that you notice as a home owner. So, suddenly my sister despises me for some bogus reason so she doesn’t look like a fraud to her latest victim and I’m the scapegoat, just like back in childhood. My sister filed a restraining order for herself and her three children who have had to come spend time with me in secret on their dads weeks due to this sudden change of heart. She is making me out to be a stalker and a drug addict all of the things that SHE IS because she knows I could get her for breaking and entering or something like that if I really wanted to, I would assume. She put my mothers address down as hers and now I can’t go anywhere near my moms house. All of this was done without me ever seeing or talking to my sister. I haven’t had contact with her for months for obvious reasons. There’s a court date set and god only knows what kind of crazy narcissistic bs she’s gonna pull. I stick to the truth and the tapes of her using my property as her own. Is there anything else I should do/be aware of?
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You should fight this restraining order with the assistance of counsel. Most family law practices will have lots of relevant experience. You don't want this to be anything other than a temporary order, it'll follow you around later and may restrict your access to firearms and other rights beyond those already outlined in the order.
Pretty much just document everything, also if she tries to contact you don't pick up or talk to her at all. Missouri is a one party state, so she could secretly record you and try and distort it the audio as "evidence" against you. You should also enable any GPS tracking, like Google time line, to show where you are at all times. Also you should contact a lawyer and get their advice on what to expect on the court date.
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(MO)Served with a restraining order for my sister and her children. I haven’t seen/spoken with her for months: She claims my mothers residence is hers and now I can’t go to my elderly mothers house anymore. She doesn’t live there. This is the same sister who used technology and key logging software to stalk; harass and terrorize myself and my infant daughter almost one year ago now. I took my daughter on vacation and when we left for Disney World, everything was fine we were bffs again whatever. I made the mistake of trusting her to check on my home while we were away and was surprised to get a call from my landlord asking why there is a family of six suddenly living in my home and using my space, clothing, everything down to the shampoo she watered down so I wouldn’t notice, please. Apparently, she was seeing a new boyfriend and pretending that she lived in my home and acted like it was her own. I caught on when I noticed the family photos were turned around and some other smaller nuisances that you notice as a home owner. So, suddenly my sister despises me for some bogus reason so she doesn’t look like a fraud to her latest victim and I’m the scapegoat, just like back in childhood. My sister filed a restraining order for herself and her three children who have had to come spend time with me in secret on their dads weeks due to this sudden change of heart. She is making me out to be a stalker and a drug addict all of the things that SHE IS because she knows I could get her for breaking and entering or something like that if I really wanted to, I would assume. She put my mothers address down as hers and now I can’t go anywhere near my moms house. All of this was done without me ever seeing or talking to my sister. I haven’t had contact with her for months for obvious reasons. There’s a court date set and god only knows what kind of crazy narcissistic bs she’s gonna pull. I stick to the truth and the tapes of her using my property as her own. Is there anything else I should do/be aware of?
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She's going to have to prove she lives there and that won't be easy. It wouldn't hurt talking to an attorney just for the heck of it ​
Does she receive aid (housing allowance,money,medical) from the State for her and the children? If she does, whch address does she use on that paperwork, Her house or your Mom's house? If she is using her address on the aid file you could use it to show she does not live at your Mom's house.
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(MO)Served with a restraining order for my sister and her children. I haven’t seen/spoken with her for months: She claims my mothers residence is hers and now I can’t go to my elderly mothers house anymore. She doesn’t live there. This is the same sister who used technology and key logging software to stalk; harass and terrorize myself and my infant daughter almost one year ago now. I took my daughter on vacation and when we left for Disney World, everything was fine we were bffs again whatever. I made the mistake of trusting her to check on my home while we were away and was surprised to get a call from my landlord asking why there is a family of six suddenly living in my home and using my space, clothing, everything down to the shampoo she watered down so I wouldn’t notice, please. Apparently, she was seeing a new boyfriend and pretending that she lived in my home and acted like it was her own. I caught on when I noticed the family photos were turned around and some other smaller nuisances that you notice as a home owner. So, suddenly my sister despises me for some bogus reason so she doesn’t look like a fraud to her latest victim and I’m the scapegoat, just like back in childhood. My sister filed a restraining order for herself and her three children who have had to come spend time with me in secret on their dads weeks due to this sudden change of heart. She is making me out to be a stalker and a drug addict all of the things that SHE IS because she knows I could get her for breaking and entering or something like that if I really wanted to, I would assume. She put my mothers address down as hers and now I can’t go anywhere near my moms house. All of this was done without me ever seeing or talking to my sister. I haven’t had contact with her for months for obvious reasons. There’s a court date set and god only knows what kind of crazy narcissistic bs she’s gonna pull. I stick to the truth and the tapes of her using my property as her own. Is there anything else I should do/be aware of?
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Stop contacting your sister. Stop agreeing to let her house sit your house. Go no contact. Christ you should have cut her off after the stalking incident. Wake up and get out of the fog. If your mom wants to enable her then thats your moms problem. Get out of the FOG and realize your sister is a garbage person and no good will come from being in contact.
She's going to have to prove she lives there and that won't be easy. It wouldn't hurt talking to an attorney just for the heck of it ​
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(MO)Served with a restraining order for my sister and her children. I haven’t seen/spoken with her for months: She claims my mothers residence is hers and now I can’t go to my elderly mothers house anymore. She doesn’t live there. This is the same sister who used technology and key logging software to stalk; harass and terrorize myself and my infant daughter almost one year ago now. I took my daughter on vacation and when we left for Disney World, everything was fine we were bffs again whatever. I made the mistake of trusting her to check on my home while we were away and was surprised to get a call from my landlord asking why there is a family of six suddenly living in my home and using my space, clothing, everything down to the shampoo she watered down so I wouldn’t notice, please. Apparently, she was seeing a new boyfriend and pretending that she lived in my home and acted like it was her own. I caught on when I noticed the family photos were turned around and some other smaller nuisances that you notice as a home owner. So, suddenly my sister despises me for some bogus reason so she doesn’t look like a fraud to her latest victim and I’m the scapegoat, just like back in childhood. My sister filed a restraining order for herself and her three children who have had to come spend time with me in secret on their dads weeks due to this sudden change of heart. She is making me out to be a stalker and a drug addict all of the things that SHE IS because she knows I could get her for breaking and entering or something like that if I really wanted to, I would assume. She put my mothers address down as hers and now I can’t go anywhere near my moms house. All of this was done without me ever seeing or talking to my sister. I haven’t had contact with her for months for obvious reasons. There’s a court date set and god only knows what kind of crazy narcissistic bs she’s gonna pull. I stick to the truth and the tapes of her using my property as her own. Is there anything else I should do/be aware of?
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She's going to have to prove she lives there and that won't be easy. It wouldn't hurt talking to an attorney just for the heck of it ​
Change your locks. You know she made herself a key. Also check your credit. I would not put anything past this woman.
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(MO)Served with a restraining order for my sister and her children. I haven’t seen/spoken with her for months: She claims my mothers residence is hers and now I can’t go to my elderly mothers house anymore. She doesn’t live there. This is the same sister who used technology and key logging software to stalk; harass and terrorize myself and my infant daughter almost one year ago now. I took my daughter on vacation and when we left for Disney World, everything was fine we were bffs again whatever. I made the mistake of trusting her to check on my home while we were away and was surprised to get a call from my landlord asking why there is a family of six suddenly living in my home and using my space, clothing, everything down to the shampoo she watered down so I wouldn’t notice, please. Apparently, she was seeing a new boyfriend and pretending that she lived in my home and acted like it was her own. I caught on when I noticed the family photos were turned around and some other smaller nuisances that you notice as a home owner. So, suddenly my sister despises me for some bogus reason so she doesn’t look like a fraud to her latest victim and I’m the scapegoat, just like back in childhood. My sister filed a restraining order for herself and her three children who have had to come spend time with me in secret on their dads weeks due to this sudden change of heart. She is making me out to be a stalker and a drug addict all of the things that SHE IS because she knows I could get her for breaking and entering or something like that if I really wanted to, I would assume. She put my mothers address down as hers and now I can’t go anywhere near my moms house. All of this was done without me ever seeing or talking to my sister. I haven’t had contact with her for months for obvious reasons. There’s a court date set and god only knows what kind of crazy narcissistic bs she’s gonna pull. I stick to the truth and the tapes of her using my property as her own. Is there anything else I should do/be aware of?
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Go get a copy of the petition she filed if you don’t already have it. You have the right to see what she declared under penalty of perjury to obtain the temporary order. You need to be able to punch holes in every accusation when you go to court. Too, I think you should counter with your own petition for protection because it sounds like you are the one needing protection. Glad you are getting a lawyer to help you navigate this mess.
Change your locks. You know she made herself a key. Also check your credit. I would not put anything past this woman.
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My neighbor has been harassing me for years. They've now learned my schedule and are waiting for me to leave for work each morning. Stalking? Harassment? (Chicago IL) Hi! My neighbor has been harassing me for years and it's making me so anxious. I live alone. \-Any time I use my door past 8pm (to check the mail, to let someone in, or my partner leaves for the night), they get up from whatever they are doing to open and slam their door. \-If I've used my door too many times (I call it "door quota") even before their 8pm bedtime, they start slamming doors and banging pots and pans. God forbid I take two trips out to the trash and three trips to the basement to do laundry! I never do laundry or take out the trash past 8pm. \-I had my partner and two friends over playing a board game, he called the cops because of the noise. When the cops arrived, they said they could not hear us, even from right inside the hallway! We were not being loud. \-They have turned off my power (3x in a row- I caught him coming up the stairs from the basement after shutting it off the 2nd and 3rd time!) \-I am pretty sure they have put dirt in my laundry. No proof it was them, but the rest of my neighbors are great and you need to live in the building to get into the laundry room. \-For a couple of weeks, they were putting garbage in the shared hallway in front of my door (eggshells, onion shavings, diced apple). \-He stomped on one of my packages. I have this on camera. \-Their newest thing, which has me the most worried, is that they have learned my schedule and are waiting in their kitchen each morning at 6:30 to bang pots and pans. This morning, it was extra aggressive and paired with loud, fake laughter. Someone else in the building had people over late last night and it must have kept them awake so they were mad. But I was home by myself and in bed by 9:30, so it certainly wasn't me. So they now know my daily schedule and are taking out their anger at other people on me instead. I have not had more than one person over at my home in months, I never play loud music past 8pm, and I limit my door use as much as possible. They have made me such a huge part of their daily lives and I just want to be left alone. I'm now nervous to leave my house for work every morning. The HOA put a camera in the hallway and I have a camera from my unit pointed out to the parking lot to make sure he doesn't mess with my car or follow me to work. I have changed so many of my daily habits to accommodate them and at this point I am so stressed and scared when I leave my unit. They also have a similar history with other neighbors- they have thrown away gardening stakes ("Don't plant flowers in front of my window!"), turned off a neighbor's electricity several times a week for months until we had to hire an electrician who told us that nothing was wrong with the power! (crazy neighbor accused this other neighbor of "hacking" his TV so that's why he was turning off his power) and put dirt in someone else's laundry (they must have slammed the laundry room door too loudly!) I'm alarmed that they have taken the time to get to know my daily schedule. I've gone to the police to try to file a report a few times in the past but they said they couldn't help me, door slamming isn't harassment, I don't have enough proof, etc. Is this harassment? What can I do? I own the condo and can't really afford to move. They have escalated things before and I would not put it past them to escalate things again. Please advise!
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Is there a condo association that can get involved?
Have you gone to the police with your video of them damaging your property (stomping on your package)?
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My neighbor has been harassing me for years. They've now learned my schedule and are waiting for me to leave for work each morning. Stalking? Harassment? (Chicago IL) Hi! My neighbor has been harassing me for years and it's making me so anxious. I live alone. \-Any time I use my door past 8pm (to check the mail, to let someone in, or my partner leaves for the night), they get up from whatever they are doing to open and slam their door. \-If I've used my door too many times (I call it "door quota") even before their 8pm bedtime, they start slamming doors and banging pots and pans. God forbid I take two trips out to the trash and three trips to the basement to do laundry! I never do laundry or take out the trash past 8pm. \-I had my partner and two friends over playing a board game, he called the cops because of the noise. When the cops arrived, they said they could not hear us, even from right inside the hallway! We were not being loud. \-They have turned off my power (3x in a row- I caught him coming up the stairs from the basement after shutting it off the 2nd and 3rd time!) \-I am pretty sure they have put dirt in my laundry. No proof it was them, but the rest of my neighbors are great and you need to live in the building to get into the laundry room. \-For a couple of weeks, they were putting garbage in the shared hallway in front of my door (eggshells, onion shavings, diced apple). \-He stomped on one of my packages. I have this on camera. \-Their newest thing, which has me the most worried, is that they have learned my schedule and are waiting in their kitchen each morning at 6:30 to bang pots and pans. This morning, it was extra aggressive and paired with loud, fake laughter. Someone else in the building had people over late last night and it must have kept them awake so they were mad. But I was home by myself and in bed by 9:30, so it certainly wasn't me. So they now know my daily schedule and are taking out their anger at other people on me instead. I have not had more than one person over at my home in months, I never play loud music past 8pm, and I limit my door use as much as possible. They have made me such a huge part of their daily lives and I just want to be left alone. I'm now nervous to leave my house for work every morning. The HOA put a camera in the hallway and I have a camera from my unit pointed out to the parking lot to make sure he doesn't mess with my car or follow me to work. I have changed so many of my daily habits to accommodate them and at this point I am so stressed and scared when I leave my unit. They also have a similar history with other neighbors- they have thrown away gardening stakes ("Don't plant flowers in front of my window!"), turned off a neighbor's electricity several times a week for months until we had to hire an electrician who told us that nothing was wrong with the power! (crazy neighbor accused this other neighbor of "hacking" his TV so that's why he was turning off his power) and put dirt in someone else's laundry (they must have slammed the laundry room door too loudly!) I'm alarmed that they have taken the time to get to know my daily schedule. I've gone to the police to try to file a report a few times in the past but they said they couldn't help me, door slamming isn't harassment, I don't have enough proof, etc. Is this harassment? What can I do? I own the condo and can't really afford to move. They have escalated things before and I would not put it past them to escalate things again. Please advise!
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Is there a condo association that can get involved?
How is this person allowed access to the breaker panel? That should be under lock and key, condo association should deal with that.
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My neighbor has been harassing me for years. They've now learned my schedule and are waiting for me to leave for work each morning. Stalking? Harassment? (Chicago IL) Hi! My neighbor has been harassing me for years and it's making me so anxious. I live alone. \-Any time I use my door past 8pm (to check the mail, to let someone in, or my partner leaves for the night), they get up from whatever they are doing to open and slam their door. \-If I've used my door too many times (I call it "door quota") even before their 8pm bedtime, they start slamming doors and banging pots and pans. God forbid I take two trips out to the trash and three trips to the basement to do laundry! I never do laundry or take out the trash past 8pm. \-I had my partner and two friends over playing a board game, he called the cops because of the noise. When the cops arrived, they said they could not hear us, even from right inside the hallway! We were not being loud. \-They have turned off my power (3x in a row- I caught him coming up the stairs from the basement after shutting it off the 2nd and 3rd time!) \-I am pretty sure they have put dirt in my laundry. No proof it was them, but the rest of my neighbors are great and you need to live in the building to get into the laundry room. \-For a couple of weeks, they were putting garbage in the shared hallway in front of my door (eggshells, onion shavings, diced apple). \-He stomped on one of my packages. I have this on camera. \-Their newest thing, which has me the most worried, is that they have learned my schedule and are waiting in their kitchen each morning at 6:30 to bang pots and pans. This morning, it was extra aggressive and paired with loud, fake laughter. Someone else in the building had people over late last night and it must have kept them awake so they were mad. But I was home by myself and in bed by 9:30, so it certainly wasn't me. So they now know my daily schedule and are taking out their anger at other people on me instead. I have not had more than one person over at my home in months, I never play loud music past 8pm, and I limit my door use as much as possible. They have made me such a huge part of their daily lives and I just want to be left alone. I'm now nervous to leave my house for work every morning. The HOA put a camera in the hallway and I have a camera from my unit pointed out to the parking lot to make sure he doesn't mess with my car or follow me to work. I have changed so many of my daily habits to accommodate them and at this point I am so stressed and scared when I leave my unit. They also have a similar history with other neighbors- they have thrown away gardening stakes ("Don't plant flowers in front of my window!"), turned off a neighbor's electricity several times a week for months until we had to hire an electrician who told us that nothing was wrong with the power! (crazy neighbor accused this other neighbor of "hacking" his TV so that's why he was turning off his power) and put dirt in someone else's laundry (they must have slammed the laundry room door too loudly!) I'm alarmed that they have taken the time to get to know my daily schedule. I've gone to the police to try to file a report a few times in the past but they said they couldn't help me, door slamming isn't harassment, I don't have enough proof, etc. Is this harassment? What can I do? I own the condo and can't really afford to move. They have escalated things before and I would not put it past them to escalate things again. Please advise!
gypg0bk
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Is there a condo association that can get involved?
How big is your HOA and roughly what percentage of condos in your HOA are being affected by this guy? Your best bet would be to band together, go to all of the HOA meetings and work on getting some enforcement of the existing CCRs or work on creating some new CCRs to go after this guy. The HOA has a *tremendous* amount of power over individual owners - start getting them to use it to stop this guy. The HOA can make it far, far too expensive for this guy to harass you and your neighbors and can file liens or even foreclose if he doesn't pay up. This is pretty much one of only a handful of things an HOA is truly useful for - take advantage of it!
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My neighbor has been harassing me for years. They've now learned my schedule and are waiting for me to leave for work each morning. Stalking? Harassment? (Chicago IL) Hi! My neighbor has been harassing me for years and it's making me so anxious. I live alone. \-Any time I use my door past 8pm (to check the mail, to let someone in, or my partner leaves for the night), they get up from whatever they are doing to open and slam their door. \-If I've used my door too many times (I call it "door quota") even before their 8pm bedtime, they start slamming doors and banging pots and pans. God forbid I take two trips out to the trash and three trips to the basement to do laundry! I never do laundry or take out the trash past 8pm. \-I had my partner and two friends over playing a board game, he called the cops because of the noise. When the cops arrived, they said they could not hear us, even from right inside the hallway! We were not being loud. \-They have turned off my power (3x in a row- I caught him coming up the stairs from the basement after shutting it off the 2nd and 3rd time!) \-I am pretty sure they have put dirt in my laundry. No proof it was them, but the rest of my neighbors are great and you need to live in the building to get into the laundry room. \-For a couple of weeks, they were putting garbage in the shared hallway in front of my door (eggshells, onion shavings, diced apple). \-He stomped on one of my packages. I have this on camera. \-Their newest thing, which has me the most worried, is that they have learned my schedule and are waiting in their kitchen each morning at 6:30 to bang pots and pans. This morning, it was extra aggressive and paired with loud, fake laughter. Someone else in the building had people over late last night and it must have kept them awake so they were mad. But I was home by myself and in bed by 9:30, so it certainly wasn't me. So they now know my daily schedule and are taking out their anger at other people on me instead. I have not had more than one person over at my home in months, I never play loud music past 8pm, and I limit my door use as much as possible. They have made me such a huge part of their daily lives and I just want to be left alone. I'm now nervous to leave my house for work every morning. The HOA put a camera in the hallway and I have a camera from my unit pointed out to the parking lot to make sure he doesn't mess with my car or follow me to work. I have changed so many of my daily habits to accommodate them and at this point I am so stressed and scared when I leave my unit. They also have a similar history with other neighbors- they have thrown away gardening stakes ("Don't plant flowers in front of my window!"), turned off a neighbor's electricity several times a week for months until we had to hire an electrician who told us that nothing was wrong with the power! (crazy neighbor accused this other neighbor of "hacking" his TV so that's why he was turning off his power) and put dirt in someone else's laundry (they must have slammed the laundry room door too loudly!) I'm alarmed that they have taken the time to get to know my daily schedule. I've gone to the police to try to file a report a few times in the past but they said they couldn't help me, door slamming isn't harassment, I don't have enough proof, etc. Is this harassment? What can I do? I own the condo and can't really afford to move. They have escalated things before and I would not put it past them to escalate things again. Please advise!
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If there's an HOA, presumably there are bylaws about respecting other owners (or their tenants) rights to live in the building. Have you continued to escalate these behaviors to the board? If so, what steps have they taken to protect you? If nothing - why? It may be that you need to (A) call the police and make a criminal complaint for harassment against these neighbors (and discuss a no-contact order) and (B) retain a lawyer to make a formal demand for action from the HOA (a prelude to suing the HOA for failing to abide by its own bylaws). This is **your home** and your neighbor does not get to dictate how you live in your own home. Full stop. You need to stop living in fear of your neighbor and start living like a normal person - if they continue to escalate once you have put your own ducks in a row, they will either back down, or find themselves in trouble with either the police, the HOA, or both.
Is there a condo association that can get involved?
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Father has been stalking me for 20 years, help! Good morning Reddit. Here goes: My parents divorced in 1997 due to my father's serial adultery and financial lies. Shortly after, when I was about 15, a family court judge granted me right of self-determination due to the trauma he had put me through (domestic violence, exposure to pornographic material, verbal, mental and emotional abuse on too many occasions to list). Since that time, I maybe spoke to him once or twice. We have not exchanged words in a decade. Out of his four children, only one of them is in contact with him - he was much younger than I was and had a different parental experience. I have requested many times that this brother and his wife do not tell our father about my personal life. And yet, they have told him personal details about my relationships, my job, etc. I went no contact with them, but they still receive information through my mom. The chain of fuckery goes like this : ME > MOM > BROTHER > STALKER. This week he sent a completely unhinged letter to my work address, where it was received and opened by a coworker. (It's a government office and pretty routine for us to receive personally addressed mail due to the calls we get, so this isn't surprising or out of the scope of their job). It has a lot of personal information in it, and while my coworker said she didn't read it, it's possible that she did or others did - it is my belief he did this in an attempt to injure me professionally. He knows I don't want any contact with him, but every once in a while he pops up like a herpes sore to send me some reminder that if he wants, he can find me no matter where I go in the country. I'm filing a police report and a TPO, but I doubt the TPO will be granted because his physical violence and abuse took place 20 years ago and because my mother is so conflict-avoidant it went undocumented by police. Also, I live in NV and he lives in VA I need some guidance on how to protect myself from my father, my brother and maybe even my mom. I don't want to go no contact with her but it's on the table after twenty years of just wanting to be left alone to have a normal life without my abuser in it. What can I do?
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I'm sorry but since you've identified that the flow of information begins with your mother, the most practical option is to cut her off.
You could try contacting a domestic violence organisation, they will have experience dealing with issues such as this and will be able to give you advice and resources
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Father has been stalking me for 20 years, help! Good morning Reddit. Here goes: My parents divorced in 1997 due to my father's serial adultery and financial lies. Shortly after, when I was about 15, a family court judge granted me right of self-determination due to the trauma he had put me through (domestic violence, exposure to pornographic material, verbal, mental and emotional abuse on too many occasions to list). Since that time, I maybe spoke to him once or twice. We have not exchanged words in a decade. Out of his four children, only one of them is in contact with him - he was much younger than I was and had a different parental experience. I have requested many times that this brother and his wife do not tell our father about my personal life. And yet, they have told him personal details about my relationships, my job, etc. I went no contact with them, but they still receive information through my mom. The chain of fuckery goes like this : ME > MOM > BROTHER > STALKER. This week he sent a completely unhinged letter to my work address, where it was received and opened by a coworker. (It's a government office and pretty routine for us to receive personally addressed mail due to the calls we get, so this isn't surprising or out of the scope of their job). It has a lot of personal information in it, and while my coworker said she didn't read it, it's possible that she did or others did - it is my belief he did this in an attempt to injure me professionally. He knows I don't want any contact with him, but every once in a while he pops up like a herpes sore to send me some reminder that if he wants, he can find me no matter where I go in the country. I'm filing a police report and a TPO, but I doubt the TPO will be granted because his physical violence and abuse took place 20 years ago and because my mother is so conflict-avoidant it went undocumented by police. Also, I live in NV and he lives in VA I need some guidance on how to protect myself from my father, my brother and maybe even my mom. I don't want to go no contact with her but it's on the table after twenty years of just wanting to be left alone to have a normal life without my abuser in it. What can I do?
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A women's shelter may also have resources for this type of thing that they might be able to help with. Many shelters for women have ways to help people running from abusive relationships, being stalked, harassed etc.
I'm sorry but since you've identified that the flow of information begins with your mother, the most practical option is to cut her off.
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(NC) Landlord has been stealing electricity over the past 12 months. My roommates and I have recently discovered that our landlord has been stealing electricity from us to power his business office that is located in the backyard of our rental house. We discovered this when our power was temporarily disconnected for a late payment and our landlord came and asked if we had any power about 30 minutes after we were disconnected. We then realized that our late payments should have no affect on his offices power supply and thus determining that he has been leaching power from our lines without telling us. There is no meter on his office and no evidence that he has his own account with the power company. We rent through a 3rd party realtor and upon confronting them they said they will not be able to handle anything as it is between us and the landlord, but that our landlord has requested our previous electricity bills for the past few months. So it seems that our landlord is willing to back pay us whatever electricity he has used over the past 12 months but my concern is how to determine what exactly he owes us. His office space is about the size of a 2 car garage with its own A/C unit and he runs a carpentry business where he is in the office around 8-10 hours a day repairing furniture. What would be a proper way to go about finding out how much our landlord owes us for electricity and what legal action would there be if he refuses to pay a fair amount? Thank you for any insight you all can provide!
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You should contact the utility company and ask if they are willing to pursue a theft of service claim. They should investigate, especially if any "homemade" wiring is involved. If you really want to blow up the landlord, look into the zoning for the property. He likely doesn't have the permits to be running a commercial business in a residential neighborhood. I would think a "dirty" business like carpentry (requiring ventilation for particulate and chemicals for finishes, proper disposal of flammable material, etc.) would be out of place next to people's homes. The neighbors would be very unhappy to hear about it, too.
The easiest way is to prorate by square foot. The most accurate way would be to get the office on a separate meter and then use the average of the next three months ratio to the use of the house.
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(Cali) Neighbor has been siphoning electricity for months. My electric bill and usage had basically doubled last year. I originally believed it was myself and the two people I live with being careless about leaving our tv, lights and computers running. I would get the bill each month and then just give a usual "Hey, electric bill is still up, let's be more careful this month" then move on. Recently it has gotten colder and my electric usage nearly tripled along with my bill to an unbelievable extent given I live in a 700 sq ft home and I am getting an electric bill in the mid 300s while other people I know rarely spend more than 100 per month. I called the electric company to dispute this they sent a tech over to verify I was using that much electricity but I objected so the tech pointed out that all of our electric meters were lined up together so he suggested I go to my house and turn off all the electricity to my house through the circuit breakers then see if the meter was still running up. I did this then ran some errands for a few hours then checked back and sure enough I had used several kWh even though I had no electricity going to my home. I called my landlord who then looked over the meter box and noticed that my neighbors meter wasn't even hooked up. He then looked at the jumper box nearby and saw that yes he was siphoning off my electricity. He then spoke with the electric company and they didn't give him all the details but they did state they shut off his electricity back in March '17 for non payment. I have since had the police come by take pictures and document everything. I have yet to press charges because really I just want my money back and need advice on the best way to do it. I did the math and between my average per month usage in 2016 compared to 2017 to today by electric bill went up by over 1200 dollars. My landlord has been unable to contact the neighbor and the guy isn't around at the moment because he is working out of town. I have called the electric company and they won't make any adjustments or credits for me because the guy was stealing from me not them. I still owe on a $350 bill with another one coming up that will be similar and I am not sure how I can afford it.
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Don't overlook the liability of the landlord in this. I assume that your lease does not obligate you to pay for your neighbor's utilities. The overcharge could be the result of the landlord's faulty wiring, or the landlord's failure to prevent tampering with the jumper box. It seems like the neighbor is another tenant of the same landlord, but I think you have arguments here even if he is not.
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(Cali) Neighbor has been siphoning electricity for months. My electric bill and usage had basically doubled last year. I originally believed it was myself and the two people I live with being careless about leaving our tv, lights and computers running. I would get the bill each month and then just give a usual "Hey, electric bill is still up, let's be more careful this month" then move on. Recently it has gotten colder and my electric usage nearly tripled along with my bill to an unbelievable extent given I live in a 700 sq ft home and I am getting an electric bill in the mid 300s while other people I know rarely spend more than 100 per month. I called the electric company to dispute this they sent a tech over to verify I was using that much electricity but I objected so the tech pointed out that all of our electric meters were lined up together so he suggested I go to my house and turn off all the electricity to my house through the circuit breakers then see if the meter was still running up. I did this then ran some errands for a few hours then checked back and sure enough I had used several kWh even though I had no electricity going to my home. I called my landlord who then looked over the meter box and noticed that my neighbors meter wasn't even hooked up. He then looked at the jumper box nearby and saw that yes he was siphoning off my electricity. He then spoke with the electric company and they didn't give him all the details but they did state they shut off his electricity back in March '17 for non payment. I have since had the police come by take pictures and document everything. I have yet to press charges because really I just want my money back and need advice on the best way to do it. I did the math and between my average per month usage in 2016 compared to 2017 to today by electric bill went up by over 1200 dollars. My landlord has been unable to contact the neighbor and the guy isn't around at the moment because he is working out of town. I have called the electric company and they won't make any adjustments or credits for me because the guy was stealing from me not them. I still owe on a $350 bill with another one coming up that will be similar and I am not sure how I can afford it.
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Ask the police for a case number or copy of the report. Contact the electric company with this information. Ask for their special agent or investigation department. In California, public utilities have their own police forces that will work with law enforcement. The junction box between the meters and the individual main breakers should have a seal installed by the utility. Tampering with it is further evidence of the crime. If over $950 in value it's a felony. Is the neighbor still connected to your meter? If so, check with the police before asking your landlord to have an electrician disconnect it. They may want to set up a sting. Don't try to disconnect it yourself. Depending on where the tap was made, you may not be able to de-energize the circuit without pulling the meter. >I have yet to press charges because really I just want my money back and need advice on the best way to do it. You don't technically press charges. The prosecutor and police do. You can request prosecution but it isn't actually your call. As far as getting your money back, the District Attorney's victim restitution program may be able to help. When you contact the utility's investigation department and open a case, mention that you're strapped for cash and ask them to work with their billing department to cut you some slack. Tenants who steal electricity and tamper with utilities typically aren't good tenants. If your landlord is on your side see if they'll put some pressure on the neighbor.
Sue the landlord, the maintenance worker in his individual capacity and the tenant. It’s always better to have a judge decide WHICH entity is liable than whether one person is liable. Don’t call the police. Go to the police station and ask for an appointment with an investigator. Insist on charges being filed.
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(Cali) Neighbor has been siphoning electricity for months. My electric bill and usage had basically doubled last year. I originally believed it was myself and the two people I live with being careless about leaving our tv, lights and computers running. I would get the bill each month and then just give a usual "Hey, electric bill is still up, let's be more careful this month" then move on. Recently it has gotten colder and my electric usage nearly tripled along with my bill to an unbelievable extent given I live in a 700 sq ft home and I am getting an electric bill in the mid 300s while other people I know rarely spend more than 100 per month. I called the electric company to dispute this they sent a tech over to verify I was using that much electricity but I objected so the tech pointed out that all of our electric meters were lined up together so he suggested I go to my house and turn off all the electricity to my house through the circuit breakers then see if the meter was still running up. I did this then ran some errands for a few hours then checked back and sure enough I had used several kWh even though I had no electricity going to my home. I called my landlord who then looked over the meter box and noticed that my neighbors meter wasn't even hooked up. He then looked at the jumper box nearby and saw that yes he was siphoning off my electricity. He then spoke with the electric company and they didn't give him all the details but they did state they shut off his electricity back in March '17 for non payment. I have since had the police come by take pictures and document everything. I have yet to press charges because really I just want my money back and need advice on the best way to do it. I did the math and between my average per month usage in 2016 compared to 2017 to today by electric bill went up by over 1200 dollars. My landlord has been unable to contact the neighbor and the guy isn't around at the moment because he is working out of town. I have called the electric company and they won't make any adjustments or credits for me because the guy was stealing from me not them. I still owe on a $350 bill with another one coming up that will be similar and I am not sure how I can afford it.
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Ask the police for a case number or copy of the report. Contact the electric company with this information. Ask for their special agent or investigation department. In California, public utilities have their own police forces that will work with law enforcement. The junction box between the meters and the individual main breakers should have a seal installed by the utility. Tampering with it is further evidence of the crime. If over $950 in value it's a felony. Is the neighbor still connected to your meter? If so, check with the police before asking your landlord to have an electrician disconnect it. They may want to set up a sting. Don't try to disconnect it yourself. Depending on where the tap was made, you may not be able to de-energize the circuit without pulling the meter. >I have yet to press charges because really I just want my money back and need advice on the best way to do it. You don't technically press charges. The prosecutor and police do. You can request prosecution but it isn't actually your call. As far as getting your money back, the District Attorney's victim restitution program may be able to help. When you contact the utility's investigation department and open a case, mention that you're strapped for cash and ask them to work with their billing department to cut you some slack. Tenants who steal electricity and tamper with utilities typically aren't good tenants. If your landlord is on your side see if they'll put some pressure on the neighbor.
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(Cali) Neighbor has been siphoning electricity for months. My electric bill and usage had basically doubled last year. I originally believed it was myself and the two people I live with being careless about leaving our tv, lights and computers running. I would get the bill each month and then just give a usual "Hey, electric bill is still up, let's be more careful this month" then move on. Recently it has gotten colder and my electric usage nearly tripled along with my bill to an unbelievable extent given I live in a 700 sq ft home and I am getting an electric bill in the mid 300s while other people I know rarely spend more than 100 per month. I called the electric company to dispute this they sent a tech over to verify I was using that much electricity but I objected so the tech pointed out that all of our electric meters were lined up together so he suggested I go to my house and turn off all the electricity to my house through the circuit breakers then see if the meter was still running up. I did this then ran some errands for a few hours then checked back and sure enough I had used several kWh even though I had no electricity going to my home. I called my landlord who then looked over the meter box and noticed that my neighbors meter wasn't even hooked up. He then looked at the jumper box nearby and saw that yes he was siphoning off my electricity. He then spoke with the electric company and they didn't give him all the details but they did state they shut off his electricity back in March '17 for non payment. I have since had the police come by take pictures and document everything. I have yet to press charges because really I just want my money back and need advice on the best way to do it. I did the math and between my average per month usage in 2016 compared to 2017 to today by electric bill went up by over 1200 dollars. My landlord has been unable to contact the neighbor and the guy isn't around at the moment because he is working out of town. I have called the electric company and they won't make any adjustments or credits for me because the guy was stealing from me not them. I still owe on a $350 bill with another one coming up that will be similar and I am not sure how I can afford it.
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I am not a lawyer. > but they did state they shut off his electricity back in March '17 for non payment. You can't get blood out of a stone. Keep this in mind as you embark on a legal quest. Winning a suit against this guy may lead to more financial loss because of legal fees. He is unlikely to pay you back if he is so poor that his electricity was cut off. Of course, if he does have assets you can sell, court will help. Talk to him and see if he is willing to fork up some cash.
Sue the landlord, the maintenance worker in his individual capacity and the tenant. It’s always better to have a judge decide WHICH entity is liable than whether one person is liable. Don’t call the police. Go to the police station and ask for an appointment with an investigator. Insist on charges being filed.
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(Cali) Neighbor has been siphoning electricity for months. My electric bill and usage had basically doubled last year. I originally believed it was myself and the two people I live with being careless about leaving our tv, lights and computers running. I would get the bill each month and then just give a usual "Hey, electric bill is still up, let's be more careful this month" then move on. Recently it has gotten colder and my electric usage nearly tripled along with my bill to an unbelievable extent given I live in a 700 sq ft home and I am getting an electric bill in the mid 300s while other people I know rarely spend more than 100 per month. I called the electric company to dispute this they sent a tech over to verify I was using that much electricity but I objected so the tech pointed out that all of our electric meters were lined up together so he suggested I go to my house and turn off all the electricity to my house through the circuit breakers then see if the meter was still running up. I did this then ran some errands for a few hours then checked back and sure enough I had used several kWh even though I had no electricity going to my home. I called my landlord who then looked over the meter box and noticed that my neighbors meter wasn't even hooked up. He then looked at the jumper box nearby and saw that yes he was siphoning off my electricity. He then spoke with the electric company and they didn't give him all the details but they did state they shut off his electricity back in March '17 for non payment. I have since had the police come by take pictures and document everything. I have yet to press charges because really I just want my money back and need advice on the best way to do it. I did the math and between my average per month usage in 2016 compared to 2017 to today by electric bill went up by over 1200 dollars. My landlord has been unable to contact the neighbor and the guy isn't around at the moment because he is working out of town. I have called the electric company and they won't make any adjustments or credits for me because the guy was stealing from me not them. I still owe on a $350 bill with another one coming up that will be similar and I am not sure how I can afford it.
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I am not a lawyer. > but they did state they shut off his electricity back in March '17 for non payment. You can't get blood out of a stone. Keep this in mind as you embark on a legal quest. Winning a suit against this guy may lead to more financial loss because of legal fees. He is unlikely to pay you back if he is so poor that his electricity was cut off. Of course, if he does have assets you can sell, court will help. Talk to him and see if he is willing to fork up some cash.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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Civil matter is BS. It's theft and criminal. I work for an electric utility and when people are caught bypassing the meter (stealing electricity) the popo join us as we visit them to deal with the problem. I would push harder with the police.
Send a certified letter to the tenant demanding they stop using the charger. It is not included in their lease as you own the charger. If they continue to use it call the police for every instance. Also consider a dash camera that can be activated without having you drive the car. Installing cameras around your house would be good and have one pointed at the car charging area. Everytime they unplug your car you will have evidence.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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The police *might* not be correct about this being solely a civil matter. Depending on the setup in place, the neighbor might be trespassing. Regardless, it doesn't matter what the landlord communicated to your neighbor. Your plug means your electricity. Even if the landlord mistakenly offered it as part of the rental (which I doubt or else the neighbor never would've asked permission in the beginning before becoming more presumptuous), that doesn't mean you owe the neighbor anything. Anyway, you do have a valid civil claim against your neighbor for the value of the electricity they have stolen. However, electricity is relatively cheap so a few nights of charging probably only amounts to a few dollars. Without knowing your exact setup, it's not possible to know which of these might be of use, but some ideas: * Does your car have a setting which prevents the charging cable from being unplugged if the car is locked? * Can you set up alerts with your car to let you know when charging has been interrupted? * Can you move your car into your garage to charge? * Can you control the breaker for the charging spot? * Can you get a physical lock for the charging cable? Like a cover that goes over the end of the cable so it cannot be plugged in. * Can you get a cable that is so short that it barely reached your car and cannot reach wherever your neighbor is parked?
Civil matter is BS. It's theft and criminal. I work for an electric utility and when people are caught bypassing the meter (stealing electricity) the popo join us as we visit them to deal with the problem. I would push harder with the police.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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Not a lawyer Everybody is suggesting how to secure your plug, which is good, but my top priority would be finding their landlord. Can’t suggest how is best for you but I’d just call all the local letting agents, check council/land registry records, and google the address in some form to find listings for starters. Your neighbours sound like fucking nutters so better someone else tells them to stop
Civil matter is BS. It's theft and criminal. I work for an electric utility and when people are caught bypassing the meter (stealing electricity) the popo join us as we visit them to deal with the problem. I would push harder with the police.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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You can call the police and escalate as this is considered theft of service/trespass. You can also add a disconnect for the charger that is locking. Or deactivate the breaker. I would send them a certified letter to cease and desist as well as to the landlord. If it continues file suit in court for theft of service and name both landlord and tenant, even for a nominal. Sum a recorded win is enforcement and makes the landlord consider eviction
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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Civil matter is BS. It's theft and criminal. I work for an electric utility and when people are caught bypassing the meter (stealing electricity) the popo join us as we visit them to deal with the problem. I would push harder with the police.
I’d get a disconnect Hooked up to it and only turn it on when you need it. Any Electrition would be able to do this.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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The police *might* not be correct about this being solely a civil matter. Depending on the setup in place, the neighbor might be trespassing. Regardless, it doesn't matter what the landlord communicated to your neighbor. Your plug means your electricity. Even if the landlord mistakenly offered it as part of the rental (which I doubt or else the neighbor never would've asked permission in the beginning before becoming more presumptuous), that doesn't mean you owe the neighbor anything. Anyway, you do have a valid civil claim against your neighbor for the value of the electricity they have stolen. However, electricity is relatively cheap so a few nights of charging probably only amounts to a few dollars. Without knowing your exact setup, it's not possible to know which of these might be of use, but some ideas: * Does your car have a setting which prevents the charging cable from being unplugged if the car is locked? * Can you set up alerts with your car to let you know when charging has been interrupted? * Can you move your car into your garage to charge? * Can you control the breaker for the charging spot? * Can you get a physical lock for the charging cable? Like a cover that goes over the end of the cable so it cannot be plugged in. * Can you get a cable that is so short that it barely reached your car and cannot reach wherever your neighbor is parked?
Send a certified letter to the tenant demanding they stop using the charger. It is not included in their lease as you own the charger. If they continue to use it call the police for every instance. Also consider a dash camera that can be activated without having you drive the car. Installing cameras around your house would be good and have one pointed at the car charging area. Everytime they unplug your car you will have evidence.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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Send a certified letter to the tenant demanding they stop using the charger. It is not included in their lease as you own the charger. If they continue to use it call the police for every instance. Also consider a dash camera that can be activated without having you drive the car. Installing cameras around your house would be good and have one pointed at the car charging area. Everytime they unplug your car you will have evidence.
You can call the police and escalate as this is considered theft of service/trespass. You can also add a disconnect for the charger that is locking. Or deactivate the breaker. I would send them a certified letter to cease and desist as well as to the landlord. If it continues file suit in court for theft of service and name both landlord and tenant, even for a nominal. Sum a recorded win is enforcement and makes the landlord consider eviction
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I’d be most concerned that the tenant thinks the use of your charger is included in their lease.
I am not a lawyer I'm a police dispatcher in Indiana. This is called Energy/Electricity Theft. It falls under standard Indiana theft laws and depending on how it's prosecuted, it can range from a misdemeanor up to a felony. Install a camera and document every time they steal from you and length of time. Calculate the cost. Theft reports go further when an actually dollar value is attached. Make very clear the next time you call the police that you want to report theft and request an officer come to your home and speak in person. It's much harder to dismiss someone in person. If the officer tries to dismiss your concerns again, it's probably because they're lazy. Sadly, theres lots of those in every department. Escalate this within the department by contacting the Sergeant < Lieutenant < Chief directly and continue to be a thorn in their side until they do their job. In addition, also report this to your utility company as electricity theft. Many companies like Indiana Michigan Power have forms and phone numbers specifically for these kinds of things. They may pursue legal action themselves and potentially can adjust your bills accordingly. Skip talking to the neighbor yourself again since you've already tried this. But do document (aka write down) every time you've tried to talk to them in the past with approximate dates and times and the outcome. You can use property tax info to find the contact info of the owner. This is public knowledge and can usually be found online for free. Then send a certified letter to the owner explaining the tenans claim the charger is in their lease and explain that it's not possible. State you own the home, the charger, and electric service provided to it and there is no claim whatsoever to it by the owner or tenants therefore it cannot legally be in the lease. State that the owner need to make this very clear to their tenant. Be diligent and do not accept dismissive responses.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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The police *might* not be correct about this being solely a civil matter. Depending on the setup in place, the neighbor might be trespassing. Regardless, it doesn't matter what the landlord communicated to your neighbor. Your plug means your electricity. Even if the landlord mistakenly offered it as part of the rental (which I doubt or else the neighbor never would've asked permission in the beginning before becoming more presumptuous), that doesn't mean you owe the neighbor anything. Anyway, you do have a valid civil claim against your neighbor for the value of the electricity they have stolen. However, electricity is relatively cheap so a few nights of charging probably only amounts to a few dollars. Without knowing your exact setup, it's not possible to know which of these might be of use, but some ideas: * Does your car have a setting which prevents the charging cable from being unplugged if the car is locked? * Can you set up alerts with your car to let you know when charging has been interrupted? * Can you move your car into your garage to charge? * Can you control the breaker for the charging spot? * Can you get a physical lock for the charging cable? Like a cover that goes over the end of the cable so it cannot be plugged in. * Can you get a cable that is so short that it barely reached your car and cannot reach wherever your neighbor is parked?
I am not a lawyer I'm a police dispatcher in Indiana. This is called Energy/Electricity Theft. It falls under standard Indiana theft laws and depending on how it's prosecuted, it can range from a misdemeanor up to a felony. Install a camera and document every time they steal from you and length of time. Calculate the cost. Theft reports go further when an actually dollar value is attached. Make very clear the next time you call the police that you want to report theft and request an officer come to your home and speak in person. It's much harder to dismiss someone in person. If the officer tries to dismiss your concerns again, it's probably because they're lazy. Sadly, theres lots of those in every department. Escalate this within the department by contacting the Sergeant < Lieutenant < Chief directly and continue to be a thorn in their side until they do their job. In addition, also report this to your utility company as electricity theft. Many companies like Indiana Michigan Power have forms and phone numbers specifically for these kinds of things. They may pursue legal action themselves and potentially can adjust your bills accordingly. Skip talking to the neighbor yourself again since you've already tried this. But do document (aka write down) every time you've tried to talk to them in the past with approximate dates and times and the outcome. You can use property tax info to find the contact info of the owner. This is public knowledge and can usually be found online for free. Then send a certified letter to the owner explaining the tenans claim the charger is in their lease and explain that it's not possible. State you own the home, the charger, and electric service provided to it and there is no claim whatsoever to it by the owner or tenants therefore it cannot legally be in the lease. State that the owner need to make this very clear to their tenant. Be diligent and do not accept dismissive responses.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I am not a lawyer I'm a police dispatcher in Indiana. This is called Energy/Electricity Theft. It falls under standard Indiana theft laws and depending on how it's prosecuted, it can range from a misdemeanor up to a felony. Install a camera and document every time they steal from you and length of time. Calculate the cost. Theft reports go further when an actually dollar value is attached. Make very clear the next time you call the police that you want to report theft and request an officer come to your home and speak in person. It's much harder to dismiss someone in person. If the officer tries to dismiss your concerns again, it's probably because they're lazy. Sadly, theres lots of those in every department. Escalate this within the department by contacting the Sergeant < Lieutenant < Chief directly and continue to be a thorn in their side until they do their job. In addition, also report this to your utility company as electricity theft. Many companies like Indiana Michigan Power have forms and phone numbers specifically for these kinds of things. They may pursue legal action themselves and potentially can adjust your bills accordingly. Skip talking to the neighbor yourself again since you've already tried this. But do document (aka write down) every time you've tried to talk to them in the past with approximate dates and times and the outcome. You can use property tax info to find the contact info of the owner. This is public knowledge and can usually be found online for free. Then send a certified letter to the owner explaining the tenans claim the charger is in their lease and explain that it's not possible. State you own the home, the charger, and electric service provided to it and there is no claim whatsoever to it by the owner or tenants therefore it cannot legally be in the lease. State that the owner need to make this very clear to their tenant. Be diligent and do not accept dismissive responses.
Not a lawyer Everybody is suggesting how to secure your plug, which is good, but my top priority would be finding their landlord. Can’t suggest how is best for you but I’d just call all the local letting agents, check council/land registry records, and google the address in some form to find listings for starters. Your neighbours sound like fucking nutters so better someone else tells them to stop
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I am not a lawyer I'm a police dispatcher in Indiana. This is called Energy/Electricity Theft. It falls under standard Indiana theft laws and depending on how it's prosecuted, it can range from a misdemeanor up to a felony. Install a camera and document every time they steal from you and length of time. Calculate the cost. Theft reports go further when an actually dollar value is attached. Make very clear the next time you call the police that you want to report theft and request an officer come to your home and speak in person. It's much harder to dismiss someone in person. If the officer tries to dismiss your concerns again, it's probably because they're lazy. Sadly, theres lots of those in every department. Escalate this within the department by contacting the Sergeant < Lieutenant < Chief directly and continue to be a thorn in their side until they do their job. In addition, also report this to your utility company as electricity theft. Many companies like Indiana Michigan Power have forms and phone numbers specifically for these kinds of things. They may pursue legal action themselves and potentially can adjust your bills accordingly. Skip talking to the neighbor yourself again since you've already tried this. But do document (aka write down) every time you've tried to talk to them in the past with approximate dates and times and the outcome. You can use property tax info to find the contact info of the owner. This is public knowledge and can usually be found online for free. Then send a certified letter to the owner explaining the tenans claim the charger is in their lease and explain that it's not possible. State you own the home, the charger, and electric service provided to it and there is no claim whatsoever to it by the owner or tenants therefore it cannot legally be in the lease. State that the owner need to make this very clear to their tenant. Be diligent and do not accept dismissive responses.
You can call the police and escalate as this is considered theft of service/trespass. You can also add a disconnect for the charger that is locking. Or deactivate the breaker. I would send them a certified letter to cease and desist as well as to the landlord. If it continues file suit in court for theft of service and name both landlord and tenant, even for a nominal. Sum a recorded win is enforcement and makes the landlord consider eviction
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I am not a lawyer I'm a police dispatcher in Indiana. This is called Energy/Electricity Theft. It falls under standard Indiana theft laws and depending on how it's prosecuted, it can range from a misdemeanor up to a felony. Install a camera and document every time they steal from you and length of time. Calculate the cost. Theft reports go further when an actually dollar value is attached. Make very clear the next time you call the police that you want to report theft and request an officer come to your home and speak in person. It's much harder to dismiss someone in person. If the officer tries to dismiss your concerns again, it's probably because they're lazy. Sadly, theres lots of those in every department. Escalate this within the department by contacting the Sergeant < Lieutenant < Chief directly and continue to be a thorn in their side until they do their job. In addition, also report this to your utility company as electricity theft. Many companies like Indiana Michigan Power have forms and phone numbers specifically for these kinds of things. They may pursue legal action themselves and potentially can adjust your bills accordingly. Skip talking to the neighbor yourself again since you've already tried this. But do document (aka write down) every time you've tried to talk to them in the past with approximate dates and times and the outcome. You can use property tax info to find the contact info of the owner. This is public knowledge and can usually be found online for free. Then send a certified letter to the owner explaining the tenans claim the charger is in their lease and explain that it's not possible. State you own the home, the charger, and electric service provided to it and there is no claim whatsoever to it by the owner or tenants therefore it cannot legally be in the lease. State that the owner need to make this very clear to their tenant. Be diligent and do not accept dismissive responses.
I’d get a disconnect Hooked up to it and only turn it on when you need it. Any Electrition would be able to do this.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I am not a lawyer I'm a police dispatcher in Indiana. This is called Energy/Electricity Theft. It falls under standard Indiana theft laws and depending on how it's prosecuted, it can range from a misdemeanor up to a felony. Install a camera and document every time they steal from you and length of time. Calculate the cost. Theft reports go further when an actually dollar value is attached. Make very clear the next time you call the police that you want to report theft and request an officer come to your home and speak in person. It's much harder to dismiss someone in person. If the officer tries to dismiss your concerns again, it's probably because they're lazy. Sadly, theres lots of those in every department. Escalate this within the department by contacting the Sergeant < Lieutenant < Chief directly and continue to be a thorn in their side until they do their job. In addition, also report this to your utility company as electricity theft. Many companies like Indiana Michigan Power have forms and phone numbers specifically for these kinds of things. They may pursue legal action themselves and potentially can adjust your bills accordingly. Skip talking to the neighbor yourself again since you've already tried this. But do document (aka write down) every time you've tried to talk to them in the past with approximate dates and times and the outcome. You can use property tax info to find the contact info of the owner. This is public knowledge and can usually be found online for free. Then send a certified letter to the owner explaining the tenans claim the charger is in their lease and explain that it's not possible. State you own the home, the charger, and electric service provided to it and there is no claim whatsoever to it by the owner or tenants therefore it cannot legally be in the lease. State that the owner need to make this very clear to their tenant. Be diligent and do not accept dismissive responses.
Charge your car, preferably at a time that's inconvenient for them. Go inside and flip the breaker until you need to charge your car again. Rinse and repeat. When they come over to complain tell them to notify their landlord.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I am not a lawyer I'm a police dispatcher in Indiana. This is called Energy/Electricity Theft. It falls under standard Indiana theft laws and depending on how it's prosecuted, it can range from a misdemeanor up to a felony. Install a camera and document every time they steal from you and length of time. Calculate the cost. Theft reports go further when an actually dollar value is attached. Make very clear the next time you call the police that you want to report theft and request an officer come to your home and speak in person. It's much harder to dismiss someone in person. If the officer tries to dismiss your concerns again, it's probably because they're lazy. Sadly, theres lots of those in every department. Escalate this within the department by contacting the Sergeant < Lieutenant < Chief directly and continue to be a thorn in their side until they do their job. In addition, also report this to your utility company as electricity theft. Many companies like Indiana Michigan Power have forms and phone numbers specifically for these kinds of things. They may pursue legal action themselves and potentially can adjust your bills accordingly. Skip talking to the neighbor yourself again since you've already tried this. But do document (aka write down) every time you've tried to talk to them in the past with approximate dates and times and the outcome. You can use property tax info to find the contact info of the owner. This is public knowledge and can usually be found online for free. Then send a certified letter to the owner explaining the tenans claim the charger is in their lease and explain that it's not possible. State you own the home, the charger, and electric service provided to it and there is no claim whatsoever to it by the owner or tenants therefore it cannot legally be in the lease. State that the owner need to make this very clear to their tenant. Be diligent and do not accept dismissive responses.
It's not a civil matter it's theft of service. Til it gets sorted out shut off the breaker for that device. They will stop using it when it doesn't work. If not that you could look for a lock box and lock it when not in use. From there if they break the lock box then it is destruction of property.
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I am not a lawyer I'm a police dispatcher in Indiana. This is called Energy/Electricity Theft. It falls under standard Indiana theft laws and depending on how it's prosecuted, it can range from a misdemeanor up to a felony. Install a camera and document every time they steal from you and length of time. Calculate the cost. Theft reports go further when an actually dollar value is attached. Make very clear the next time you call the police that you want to report theft and request an officer come to your home and speak in person. It's much harder to dismiss someone in person. If the officer tries to dismiss your concerns again, it's probably because they're lazy. Sadly, theres lots of those in every department. Escalate this within the department by contacting the Sergeant < Lieutenant < Chief directly and continue to be a thorn in their side until they do their job. In addition, also report this to your utility company as electricity theft. Many companies like Indiana Michigan Power have forms and phone numbers specifically for these kinds of things. They may pursue legal action themselves and potentially can adjust your bills accordingly. Skip talking to the neighbor yourself again since you've already tried this. But do document (aka write down) every time you've tried to talk to them in the past with approximate dates and times and the outcome. You can use property tax info to find the contact info of the owner. This is public knowledge and can usually be found online for free. Then send a certified letter to the owner explaining the tenans claim the charger is in their lease and explain that it's not possible. State you own the home, the charger, and electric service provided to it and there is no claim whatsoever to it by the owner or tenants therefore it cannot legally be in the lease. State that the owner need to make this very clear to their tenant. Be diligent and do not accept dismissive responses.
I am not a lawyer: I am sorry you are having to deal with this issue. I own several rental properties myself and if one of my tenants was stealing anything from a neighbor they would be out on the street. With that being said because of covid I am not allowed to kick people out for failure to pay rent right now. But If they are harassing the neighbors being unruly and unwilling to cooperate with me I am sure I could get a local Judge to grant special dispensation and get them out. Your repour with the rental's landlord/owner is very important as you don't want to be at odd's with them. Just think of the caliber of people that could be moved in next to you. Work with the other home landlord/owner and if that does not resolve your matter. I would look into a cheap wireless camera to record all the shenanigans for use later with the other home owner / police. Pictures or video footage of them taking the charger out of your car and plugging in their car / unauthorized use. once you have that call the police have them trespassed from your property by the police as you are the owner of your home. Ask the officer for a case number. Notify him that you will be picking up a copy of the report and ask where you should do so at. The next time they trespass onto your property have them arrested or fined how every your local PD does it. P.S The Landlord may not be the owner of the home but just a manager. You can check with your local tax assessor office to see who owns the home in question. Most have an online search or parcel map that the owner's information is publicly assessable for free. If the owner has retained a property manager to rent the property out. Try contacting the owner directly to resolve the on going conflict as the manager works for them. &#x200B; De escalation and resolving at the lowest level possible is the best route to take in any dispute. Good luck to ya.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I think someone recommended looping the wire through your wheel gap then attach a padlock. https://insideevs.com/news/323954/how-to-protect-your-nissan-leaf-level-1-charger-from-theft-video/ Please add a camera or three BEFORE attempting this. That way if they sabotage the equipment like cutting the wire or mess with your car, you can produce the video and sue them. I'd recommend adding one inside the vehicle, another one or two watching charger and your car from multiple angles. And make sure there's a camera covering their escape path (i.e. back to their door)
I am not a lawyer I'm a police dispatcher in Indiana. This is called Energy/Electricity Theft. It falls under standard Indiana theft laws and depending on how it's prosecuted, it can range from a misdemeanor up to a felony. Install a camera and document every time they steal from you and length of time. Calculate the cost. Theft reports go further when an actually dollar value is attached. Make very clear the next time you call the police that you want to report theft and request an officer come to your home and speak in person. It's much harder to dismiss someone in person. If the officer tries to dismiss your concerns again, it's probably because they're lazy. Sadly, theres lots of those in every department. Escalate this within the department by contacting the Sergeant < Lieutenant < Chief directly and continue to be a thorn in their side until they do their job. In addition, also report this to your utility company as electricity theft. Many companies like Indiana Michigan Power have forms and phone numbers specifically for these kinds of things. They may pursue legal action themselves and potentially can adjust your bills accordingly. Skip talking to the neighbor yourself again since you've already tried this. But do document (aka write down) every time you've tried to talk to them in the past with approximate dates and times and the outcome. You can use property tax info to find the contact info of the owner. This is public knowledge and can usually be found online for free. Then send a certified letter to the owner explaining the tenans claim the charger is in their lease and explain that it's not possible. State you own the home, the charger, and electric service provided to it and there is no claim whatsoever to it by the owner or tenants therefore it cannot legally be in the lease. State that the owner need to make this very clear to their tenant. Be diligent and do not accept dismissive responses.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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Is this a Tesla, because there are technical methods for preventing this (Teslas can prevent the charger from being removed by locking the vehicle). Chargers are generally high amperage 230/240V appliances, and thus have their own circuit, so you can technically throw the breaker... though that would get annoying.
I am not a lawyer I'm a police dispatcher in Indiana. This is called Energy/Electricity Theft. It falls under standard Indiana theft laws and depending on how it's prosecuted, it can range from a misdemeanor up to a felony. Install a camera and document every time they steal from you and length of time. Calculate the cost. Theft reports go further when an actually dollar value is attached. Make very clear the next time you call the police that you want to report theft and request an officer come to your home and speak in person. It's much harder to dismiss someone in person. If the officer tries to dismiss your concerns again, it's probably because they're lazy. Sadly, theres lots of those in every department. Escalate this within the department by contacting the Sergeant < Lieutenant < Chief directly and continue to be a thorn in their side until they do their job. In addition, also report this to your utility company as electricity theft. Many companies like Indiana Michigan Power have forms and phone numbers specifically for these kinds of things. They may pursue legal action themselves and potentially can adjust your bills accordingly. Skip talking to the neighbor yourself again since you've already tried this. But do document (aka write down) every time you've tried to talk to them in the past with approximate dates and times and the outcome. You can use property tax info to find the contact info of the owner. This is public knowledge and can usually be found online for free. Then send a certified letter to the owner explaining the tenans claim the charger is in their lease and explain that it's not possible. State you own the home, the charger, and electric service provided to it and there is no claim whatsoever to it by the owner or tenants therefore it cannot legally be in the lease. State that the owner need to make this very clear to their tenant. Be diligent and do not accept dismissive responses.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I did not see this posted but if you can show an increase in you electricity cost you can take them to small claims court. While you may not recover much in the way of damages, they will either need to take the time off to show up and defend themselves or forfeit the case. This is a time cost for them in addition to the monetary cost. Will they pay you for the judgement? who knows. Most states have methods of recovering those costs that are annoying to the person who owes them though. You may be able to be enough of a nuisance legally to deter them from using it so they don't have to keep going to court. You will also run the risk of them escalating things on the property so a camera would be a good investment.
I am not a lawyer I'm a police dispatcher in Indiana. This is called Energy/Electricity Theft. It falls under standard Indiana theft laws and depending on how it's prosecuted, it can range from a misdemeanor up to a felony. Install a camera and document every time they steal from you and length of time. Calculate the cost. Theft reports go further when an actually dollar value is attached. Make very clear the next time you call the police that you want to report theft and request an officer come to your home and speak in person. It's much harder to dismiss someone in person. If the officer tries to dismiss your concerns again, it's probably because they're lazy. Sadly, theres lots of those in every department. Escalate this within the department by contacting the Sergeant < Lieutenant < Chief directly and continue to be a thorn in their side until they do their job. In addition, also report this to your utility company as electricity theft. Many companies like Indiana Michigan Power have forms and phone numbers specifically for these kinds of things. They may pursue legal action themselves and potentially can adjust your bills accordingly. Skip talking to the neighbor yourself again since you've already tried this. But do document (aka write down) every time you've tried to talk to them in the past with approximate dates and times and the outcome. You can use property tax info to find the contact info of the owner. This is public knowledge and can usually be found online for free. Then send a certified letter to the owner explaining the tenans claim the charger is in their lease and explain that it's not possible. State you own the home, the charger, and electric service provided to it and there is no claim whatsoever to it by the owner or tenants therefore it cannot legally be in the lease. State that the owner need to make this very clear to their tenant. Be diligent and do not accept dismissive responses.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I am not a lawyer I'm a police dispatcher in Indiana. This is called Energy/Electricity Theft. It falls under standard Indiana theft laws and depending on how it's prosecuted, it can range from a misdemeanor up to a felony. Install a camera and document every time they steal from you and length of time. Calculate the cost. Theft reports go further when an actually dollar value is attached. Make very clear the next time you call the police that you want to report theft and request an officer come to your home and speak in person. It's much harder to dismiss someone in person. If the officer tries to dismiss your concerns again, it's probably because they're lazy. Sadly, theres lots of those in every department. Escalate this within the department by contacting the Sergeant < Lieutenant < Chief directly and continue to be a thorn in their side until they do their job. In addition, also report this to your utility company as electricity theft. Many companies like Indiana Michigan Power have forms and phone numbers specifically for these kinds of things. They may pursue legal action themselves and potentially can adjust your bills accordingly. Skip talking to the neighbor yourself again since you've already tried this. But do document (aka write down) every time you've tried to talk to them in the past with approximate dates and times and the outcome. You can use property tax info to find the contact info of the owner. This is public knowledge and can usually be found online for free. Then send a certified letter to the owner explaining the tenans claim the charger is in their lease and explain that it's not possible. State you own the home, the charger, and electric service provided to it and there is no claim whatsoever to it by the owner or tenants therefore it cannot legally be in the lease. State that the owner need to make this very clear to their tenant. Be diligent and do not accept dismissive responses.
I am not a lawyer I think it would be possible to build a lock box around the charger. Leave a slot big enough for the small part of the charging cable to fit into but not big enough for the big part to be pulled out of. Plug your car in, close the door to the box and lock it.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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* Install a lock on the power supply. * Unfortunately, you can't lock it to your car if you are using it so get a camera that detects movement and save the video files of your neighbor using it. * Sue the neighbor in small claims court for the use of your electricity and any Ubers you have to take because they unplugged you. You should be able to see in the app for the charger how much more electricity is being used compared to previously. * Contact the police and ask them if they came and saw the neighbor running an extension cord to their house from yours on what they would do then. Then ask them to handle this the same. Work your way up the chain of the command until someone gets off their butt. * Get a "PRIVATE" or "DO NOT TOUCH" sign and put it by your charger so there is no doubt it is not theirs. * Call your electricity company and see if they have a department that handles theft of your service.
I am not a lawyer I'm a police dispatcher in Indiana. This is called Energy/Electricity Theft. It falls under standard Indiana theft laws and depending on how it's prosecuted, it can range from a misdemeanor up to a felony. Install a camera and document every time they steal from you and length of time. Calculate the cost. Theft reports go further when an actually dollar value is attached. Make very clear the next time you call the police that you want to report theft and request an officer come to your home and speak in person. It's much harder to dismiss someone in person. If the officer tries to dismiss your concerns again, it's probably because they're lazy. Sadly, theres lots of those in every department. Escalate this within the department by contacting the Sergeant < Lieutenant < Chief directly and continue to be a thorn in their side until they do their job. In addition, also report this to your utility company as electricity theft. Many companies like Indiana Michigan Power have forms and phone numbers specifically for these kinds of things. They may pursue legal action themselves and potentially can adjust your bills accordingly. Skip talking to the neighbor yourself again since you've already tried this. But do document (aka write down) every time you've tried to talk to them in the past with approximate dates and times and the outcome. You can use property tax info to find the contact info of the owner. This is public knowledge and can usually be found online for free. Then send a certified letter to the owner explaining the tenans claim the charger is in their lease and explain that it's not possible. State you own the home, the charger, and electric service provided to it and there is no claim whatsoever to it by the owner or tenants therefore it cannot legally be in the lease. State that the owner need to make this very clear to their tenant. Be diligent and do not accept dismissive responses.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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Is locking access an option? It seems this would be a common issue and the market would support special EV charger locks.
I am not a lawyer I'm a police dispatcher in Indiana. This is called Energy/Electricity Theft. It falls under standard Indiana theft laws and depending on how it's prosecuted, it can range from a misdemeanor up to a felony. Install a camera and document every time they steal from you and length of time. Calculate the cost. Theft reports go further when an actually dollar value is attached. Make very clear the next time you call the police that you want to report theft and request an officer come to your home and speak in person. It's much harder to dismiss someone in person. If the officer tries to dismiss your concerns again, it's probably because they're lazy. Sadly, theres lots of those in every department. Escalate this within the department by contacting the Sergeant < Lieutenant < Chief directly and continue to be a thorn in their side until they do their job. In addition, also report this to your utility company as electricity theft. Many companies like Indiana Michigan Power have forms and phone numbers specifically for these kinds of things. They may pursue legal action themselves and potentially can adjust your bills accordingly. Skip talking to the neighbor yourself again since you've already tried this. But do document (aka write down) every time you've tried to talk to them in the past with approximate dates and times and the outcome. You can use property tax info to find the contact info of the owner. This is public knowledge and can usually be found online for free. Then send a certified letter to the owner explaining the tenans claim the charger is in their lease and explain that it's not possible. State you own the home, the charger, and electric service provided to it and there is no claim whatsoever to it by the owner or tenants therefore it cannot legally be in the lease. State that the owner need to make this very clear to their tenant. Be diligent and do not accept dismissive responses.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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The police *might* not be correct about this being solely a civil matter. Depending on the setup in place, the neighbor might be trespassing. Regardless, it doesn't matter what the landlord communicated to your neighbor. Your plug means your electricity. Even if the landlord mistakenly offered it as part of the rental (which I doubt or else the neighbor never would've asked permission in the beginning before becoming more presumptuous), that doesn't mean you owe the neighbor anything. Anyway, you do have a valid civil claim against your neighbor for the value of the electricity they have stolen. However, electricity is relatively cheap so a few nights of charging probably only amounts to a few dollars. Without knowing your exact setup, it's not possible to know which of these might be of use, but some ideas: * Does your car have a setting which prevents the charging cable from being unplugged if the car is locked? * Can you set up alerts with your car to let you know when charging has been interrupted? * Can you move your car into your garage to charge? * Can you control the breaker for the charging spot? * Can you get a physical lock for the charging cable? Like a cover that goes over the end of the cable so it cannot be plugged in. * Can you get a cable that is so short that it barely reached your car and cannot reach wherever your neighbor is parked?
I’d be most concerned that the tenant thinks the use of your charger is included in their lease.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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Not a lawyer Everybody is suggesting how to secure your plug, which is good, but my top priority would be finding their landlord. Can’t suggest how is best for you but I’d just call all the local letting agents, check council/land registry records, and google the address in some form to find listings for starters. Your neighbours sound like fucking nutters so better someone else tells them to stop
I’d be most concerned that the tenant thinks the use of your charger is included in their lease.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I’d be most concerned that the tenant thinks the use of your charger is included in their lease.
You can call the police and escalate as this is considered theft of service/trespass. You can also add a disconnect for the charger that is locking. Or deactivate the breaker. I would send them a certified letter to cease and desist as well as to the landlord. If it continues file suit in court for theft of service and name both landlord and tenant, even for a nominal. Sum a recorded win is enforcement and makes the landlord consider eviction
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I’d be most concerned that the tenant thinks the use of your charger is included in their lease.
I’d get a disconnect Hooked up to it and only turn it on when you need it. Any Electrition would be able to do this.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I’d be most concerned that the tenant thinks the use of your charger is included in their lease.
Charge your car, preferably at a time that's inconvenient for them. Go inside and flip the breaker until you need to charge your car again. Rinse and repeat. When they come over to complain tell them to notify their landlord.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I’d be most concerned that the tenant thinks the use of your charger is included in their lease.
It's not a civil matter it's theft of service. Til it gets sorted out shut off the breaker for that device. They will stop using it when it doesn't work. If not that you could look for a lock box and lock it when not in use. From there if they break the lock box then it is destruction of property.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I’d be most concerned that the tenant thinks the use of your charger is included in their lease.
I am not a lawyer: I am sorry you are having to deal with this issue. I own several rental properties myself and if one of my tenants was stealing anything from a neighbor they would be out on the street. With that being said because of covid I am not allowed to kick people out for failure to pay rent right now. But If they are harassing the neighbors being unruly and unwilling to cooperate with me I am sure I could get a local Judge to grant special dispensation and get them out. Your repour with the rental's landlord/owner is very important as you don't want to be at odd's with them. Just think of the caliber of people that could be moved in next to you. Work with the other home landlord/owner and if that does not resolve your matter. I would look into a cheap wireless camera to record all the shenanigans for use later with the other home owner / police. Pictures or video footage of them taking the charger out of your car and plugging in their car / unauthorized use. once you have that call the police have them trespassed from your property by the police as you are the owner of your home. Ask the officer for a case number. Notify him that you will be picking up a copy of the report and ask where you should do so at. The next time they trespass onto your property have them arrested or fined how every your local PD does it. P.S The Landlord may not be the owner of the home but just a manager. You can check with your local tax assessor office to see who owns the home in question. Most have an online search or parcel map that the owner's information is publicly assessable for free. If the owner has retained a property manager to rent the property out. Try contacting the owner directly to resolve the on going conflict as the manager works for them. &#x200B; De escalation and resolving at the lowest level possible is the best route to take in any dispute. Good luck to ya.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I am not a lawyer I think it would be possible to build a lock box around the charger. Leave a slot big enough for the small part of the charging cable to fit into but not big enough for the big part to be pulled out of. Plug your car in, close the door to the box and lock it.
I’d be most concerned that the tenant thinks the use of your charger is included in their lease.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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Is locking access an option? It seems this would be a common issue and the market would support special EV charger locks.
I’d be most concerned that the tenant thinks the use of your charger is included in their lease.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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Not a lawyer Everybody is suggesting how to secure your plug, which is good, but my top priority would be finding their landlord. Can’t suggest how is best for you but I’d just call all the local letting agents, check council/land registry records, and google the address in some form to find listings for starters. Your neighbours sound like fucking nutters so better someone else tells them to stop
You can call the police and escalate as this is considered theft of service/trespass. You can also add a disconnect for the charger that is locking. Or deactivate the breaker. I would send them a certified letter to cease and desist as well as to the landlord. If it continues file suit in court for theft of service and name both landlord and tenant, even for a nominal. Sum a recorded win is enforcement and makes the landlord consider eviction
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I’d get a disconnect Hooked up to it and only turn it on when you need it. Any Electrition would be able to do this.
Not a lawyer Everybody is suggesting how to secure your plug, which is good, but my top priority would be finding their landlord. Can’t suggest how is best for you but I’d just call all the local letting agents, check council/land registry records, and google the address in some form to find listings for starters. Your neighbours sound like fucking nutters so better someone else tells them to stop
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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Charge your car, preferably at a time that's inconvenient for them. Go inside and flip the breaker until you need to charge your car again. Rinse and repeat. When they come over to complain tell them to notify their landlord.
It's not a civil matter it's theft of service. Til it gets sorted out shut off the breaker for that device. They will stop using it when it doesn't work. If not that you could look for a lock box and lock it when not in use. From there if they break the lock box then it is destruction of property.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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Charge your car, preferably at a time that's inconvenient for them. Go inside and flip the breaker until you need to charge your car again. Rinse and repeat. When they come over to complain tell them to notify their landlord.
I am not a lawyer: I am sorry you are having to deal with this issue. I own several rental properties myself and if one of my tenants was stealing anything from a neighbor they would be out on the street. With that being said because of covid I am not allowed to kick people out for failure to pay rent right now. But If they are harassing the neighbors being unruly and unwilling to cooperate with me I am sure I could get a local Judge to grant special dispensation and get them out. Your repour with the rental's landlord/owner is very important as you don't want to be at odd's with them. Just think of the caliber of people that could be moved in next to you. Work with the other home landlord/owner and if that does not resolve your matter. I would look into a cheap wireless camera to record all the shenanigans for use later with the other home owner / police. Pictures or video footage of them taking the charger out of your car and plugging in their car / unauthorized use. once you have that call the police have them trespassed from your property by the police as you are the owner of your home. Ask the officer for a case number. Notify him that you will be picking up a copy of the report and ask where you should do so at. The next time they trespass onto your property have them arrested or fined how every your local PD does it. P.S The Landlord may not be the owner of the home but just a manager. You can check with your local tax assessor office to see who owns the home in question. Most have an online search or parcel map that the owner's information is publicly assessable for free. If the owner has retained a property manager to rent the property out. Try contacting the owner directly to resolve the on going conflict as the manager works for them. &#x200B; De escalation and resolving at the lowest level possible is the best route to take in any dispute. Good luck to ya.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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Charge your car, preferably at a time that's inconvenient for them. Go inside and flip the breaker until you need to charge your car again. Rinse and repeat. When they come over to complain tell them to notify their landlord.
Is locking access an option? It seems this would be a common issue and the market would support special EV charger locks.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I am not a lawyer: I am sorry you are having to deal with this issue. I own several rental properties myself and if one of my tenants was stealing anything from a neighbor they would be out on the street. With that being said because of covid I am not allowed to kick people out for failure to pay rent right now. But If they are harassing the neighbors being unruly and unwilling to cooperate with me I am sure I could get a local Judge to grant special dispensation and get them out. Your repour with the rental's landlord/owner is very important as you don't want to be at odd's with them. Just think of the caliber of people that could be moved in next to you. Work with the other home landlord/owner and if that does not resolve your matter. I would look into a cheap wireless camera to record all the shenanigans for use later with the other home owner / police. Pictures or video footage of them taking the charger out of your car and plugging in their car / unauthorized use. once you have that call the police have them trespassed from your property by the police as you are the owner of your home. Ask the officer for a case number. Notify him that you will be picking up a copy of the report and ask where you should do so at. The next time they trespass onto your property have them arrested or fined how every your local PD does it. P.S The Landlord may not be the owner of the home but just a manager. You can check with your local tax assessor office to see who owns the home in question. Most have an online search or parcel map that the owner's information is publicly assessable for free. If the owner has retained a property manager to rent the property out. Try contacting the owner directly to resolve the on going conflict as the manager works for them. &#x200B; De escalation and resolving at the lowest level possible is the best route to take in any dispute. Good luck to ya.
It's not a civil matter it's theft of service. Til it gets sorted out shut off the breaker for that device. They will stop using it when it doesn't work. If not that you could look for a lock box and lock it when not in use. From there if they break the lock box then it is destruction of property.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I think someone recommended looping the wire through your wheel gap then attach a padlock. https://insideevs.com/news/323954/how-to-protect-your-nissan-leaf-level-1-charger-from-theft-video/ Please add a camera or three BEFORE attempting this. That way if they sabotage the equipment like cutting the wire or mess with your car, you can produce the video and sue them. I'd recommend adding one inside the vehicle, another one or two watching charger and your car from multiple angles. And make sure there's a camera covering their escape path (i.e. back to their door)
I did not see this posted but if you can show an increase in you electricity cost you can take them to small claims court. While you may not recover much in the way of damages, they will either need to take the time off to show up and defend themselves or forfeit the case. This is a time cost for them in addition to the monetary cost. Will they pay you for the judgement? who knows. Most states have methods of recovering those costs that are annoying to the person who owes them though. You may be able to be enough of a nuisance legally to deter them from using it so they don't have to keep going to court. You will also run the risk of them escalating things on the property so a camera would be a good investment.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I think someone recommended looping the wire through your wheel gap then attach a padlock. https://insideevs.com/news/323954/how-to-protect-your-nissan-leaf-level-1-charger-from-theft-video/ Please add a camera or three BEFORE attempting this. That way if they sabotage the equipment like cutting the wire or mess with your car, you can produce the video and sue them. I'd recommend adding one inside the vehicle, another one or two watching charger and your car from multiple angles. And make sure there's a camera covering their escape path (i.e. back to their door)
I am not a lawyer I think it would be possible to build a lock box around the charger. Leave a slot big enough for the small part of the charging cable to fit into but not big enough for the big part to be pulled out of. Plug your car in, close the door to the box and lock it.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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* Install a lock on the power supply. * Unfortunately, you can't lock it to your car if you are using it so get a camera that detects movement and save the video files of your neighbor using it. * Sue the neighbor in small claims court for the use of your electricity and any Ubers you have to take because they unplugged you. You should be able to see in the app for the charger how much more electricity is being used compared to previously. * Contact the police and ask them if they came and saw the neighbor running an extension cord to their house from yours on what they would do then. Then ask them to handle this the same. Work your way up the chain of the command until someone gets off their butt. * Get a "PRIVATE" or "DO NOT TOUCH" sign and put it by your charger so there is no doubt it is not theirs. * Call your electricity company and see if they have a department that handles theft of your service.
I think someone recommended looping the wire through your wheel gap then attach a padlock. https://insideevs.com/news/323954/how-to-protect-your-nissan-leaf-level-1-charger-from-theft-video/ Please add a camera or three BEFORE attempting this. That way if they sabotage the equipment like cutting the wire or mess with your car, you can produce the video and sue them. I'd recommend adding one inside the vehicle, another one or two watching charger and your car from multiple angles. And make sure there's a camera covering their escape path (i.e. back to their door)
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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Is locking access an option? It seems this would be a common issue and the market would support special EV charger locks.
I think someone recommended looping the wire through your wheel gap then attach a padlock. https://insideevs.com/news/323954/how-to-protect-your-nissan-leaf-level-1-charger-from-theft-video/ Please add a camera or three BEFORE attempting this. That way if they sabotage the equipment like cutting the wire or mess with your car, you can produce the video and sue them. I'd recommend adding one inside the vehicle, another one or two watching charger and your car from multiple angles. And make sure there's a camera covering their escape path (i.e. back to their door)
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I did not see this posted but if you can show an increase in you electricity cost you can take them to small claims court. While you may not recover much in the way of damages, they will either need to take the time off to show up and defend themselves or forfeit the case. This is a time cost for them in addition to the monetary cost. Will they pay you for the judgement? who knows. Most states have methods of recovering those costs that are annoying to the person who owes them though. You may be able to be enough of a nuisance legally to deter them from using it so they don't have to keep going to court. You will also run the risk of them escalating things on the property so a camera would be a good investment.
Is this a Tesla, because there are technical methods for preventing this (Teslas can prevent the charger from being removed by locking the vehicle). Chargers are generally high amperage 230/240V appliances, and thus have their own circuit, so you can technically throw the breaker... though that would get annoying.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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Is this a Tesla, because there are technical methods for preventing this (Teslas can prevent the charger from being removed by locking the vehicle). Chargers are generally high amperage 230/240V appliances, and thus have their own circuit, so you can technically throw the breaker... though that would get annoying.
I am not a lawyer I think it would be possible to build a lock box around the charger. Leave a slot big enough for the small part of the charging cable to fit into but not big enough for the big part to be pulled out of. Plug your car in, close the door to the box and lock it.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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* Install a lock on the power supply. * Unfortunately, you can't lock it to your car if you are using it so get a camera that detects movement and save the video files of your neighbor using it. * Sue the neighbor in small claims court for the use of your electricity and any Ubers you have to take because they unplugged you. You should be able to see in the app for the charger how much more electricity is being used compared to previously. * Contact the police and ask them if they came and saw the neighbor running an extension cord to their house from yours on what they would do then. Then ask them to handle this the same. Work your way up the chain of the command until someone gets off their butt. * Get a "PRIVATE" or "DO NOT TOUCH" sign and put it by your charger so there is no doubt it is not theirs. * Call your electricity company and see if they have a department that handles theft of your service.
Is this a Tesla, because there are technical methods for preventing this (Teslas can prevent the charger from being removed by locking the vehicle). Chargers are generally high amperage 230/240V appliances, and thus have their own circuit, so you can technically throw the breaker... though that would get annoying.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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Is locking access an option? It seems this would be a common issue and the market would support special EV charger locks.
Is this a Tesla, because there are technical methods for preventing this (Teslas can prevent the charger from being removed by locking the vehicle). Chargers are generally high amperage 230/240V appliances, and thus have their own circuit, so you can technically throw the breaker... though that would get annoying.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I am not a lawyer I think it would be possible to build a lock box around the charger. Leave a slot big enough for the small part of the charging cable to fit into but not big enough for the big part to be pulled out of. Plug your car in, close the door to the box and lock it.
I did not see this posted but if you can show an increase in you electricity cost you can take them to small claims court. While you may not recover much in the way of damages, they will either need to take the time off to show up and defend themselves or forfeit the case. This is a time cost for them in addition to the monetary cost. Will they pay you for the judgement? who knows. Most states have methods of recovering those costs that are annoying to the person who owes them though. You may be able to be enough of a nuisance legally to deter them from using it so they don't have to keep going to court. You will also run the risk of them escalating things on the property so a camera would be a good investment.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I did not see this posted but if you can show an increase in you electricity cost you can take them to small claims court. While you may not recover much in the way of damages, they will either need to take the time off to show up and defend themselves or forfeit the case. This is a time cost for them in addition to the monetary cost. Will they pay you for the judgement? who knows. Most states have methods of recovering those costs that are annoying to the person who owes them though. You may be able to be enough of a nuisance legally to deter them from using it so they don't have to keep going to court. You will also run the risk of them escalating things on the property so a camera would be a good investment.
* Install a lock on the power supply. * Unfortunately, you can't lock it to your car if you are using it so get a camera that detects movement and save the video files of your neighbor using it. * Sue the neighbor in small claims court for the use of your electricity and any Ubers you have to take because they unplugged you. You should be able to see in the app for the charger how much more electricity is being used compared to previously. * Contact the police and ask them if they came and saw the neighbor running an extension cord to their house from yours on what they would do then. Then ask them to handle this the same. Work your way up the chain of the command until someone gets off their butt. * Get a "PRIVATE" or "DO NOT TOUCH" sign and put it by your charger so there is no doubt it is not theirs. * Call your electricity company and see if they have a department that handles theft of your service.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I did not see this posted but if you can show an increase in you electricity cost you can take them to small claims court. While you may not recover much in the way of damages, they will either need to take the time off to show up and defend themselves or forfeit the case. This is a time cost for them in addition to the monetary cost. Will they pay you for the judgement? who knows. Most states have methods of recovering those costs that are annoying to the person who owes them though. You may be able to be enough of a nuisance legally to deter them from using it so they don't have to keep going to court. You will also run the risk of them escalating things on the property so a camera would be a good investment.
Is locking access an option? It seems this would be a common issue and the market would support special EV charger locks.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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I am not a lawyer I think it would be possible to build a lock box around the charger. Leave a slot big enough for the small part of the charging cable to fit into but not big enough for the big part to be pulled out of. Plug your car in, close the door to the box and lock it.
Is locking access an option? It seems this would be a common issue and the market would support special EV charger locks.
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Neighbor keeps stealing power for electric car. My neighbor and I have a shared driveway. I own my house but the neighboring house is a rental. Last year, I bought an electric car, and paid to have a charger installed on my side of the driveway. When I installed it, the previous tenants asked if they could use it on two occasions for guests who had electric cars, and I agreed that they could. Well, the new tenants apparently feel that they're welcome to use it whenever they like to charge their own car. They've actually unplugged my car in order to plug in theirs on a couple of occasions. Of course, this uses my power, but also prevents me from charging my own car, which has caused problems. I went over and asked them to stop using my power, and they were extremely rude and said that it was included in their lease, and that their landlord told them it was included in the property. Talking to them has been completely useless. In fact, when I unplugged their car and plugged in my own, they came over and banged on the door, threatening to sue me. I haven't been able to get in touch with their landlord. The third or fourth time I found them charging their car on my plug, I called the police, who told me that this was a civil matter, and wouldn't intervene. What can I do, at this point, to stop them from using my charger? This is in Indiana.
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* Install a lock on the power supply. * Unfortunately, you can't lock it to your car if you are using it so get a camera that detects movement and save the video files of your neighbor using it. * Sue the neighbor in small claims court for the use of your electricity and any Ubers you have to take because they unplugged you. You should be able to see in the app for the charger how much more electricity is being used compared to previously. * Contact the police and ask them if they came and saw the neighbor running an extension cord to their house from yours on what they would do then. Then ask them to handle this the same. Work your way up the chain of the command until someone gets off their butt. * Get a "PRIVATE" or "DO NOT TOUCH" sign and put it by your charger so there is no doubt it is not theirs. * Call your electricity company and see if they have a department that handles theft of your service.
Is locking access an option? It seems this would be a common issue and the market would support special EV charger locks.
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My neighbor that I don’t get along with is my mailman. My mail has been going missing. I have lived next door to him and his family for the past 10 years and we’ve never had an issue until recently. He has also been our mailman for the last 2 years when his route changed to include our street. During covid him and his wife filed for a divorce and it turned messy. Since neither of them could afford to move out, she would often come over to my house to take a break from the tension. Her and I were friends and would hang out before the divorce but I didn’t want to “pick sides” because I still had to live next door to him too. I even politely refused when she asked me to be a character witness for her because I didn’t want things to be awkward. Well, about 6 months ago he confronted me outside my house saying that I’m a horrible neighbor and I’m helping his wife screw him out of money. I brushed it off to him being angry about the divorce in general and the fact that we were still friends. Over the next couple of months he would regularly yell at me about little things that he didn’t have an issue with before like a tree branch hanging in his yard or my dogs barking. Then I started realizing that some of my important mail from the IRS or the state was not being delivered. This has happened 6-7 times in the last 4 months. I will request another document to be sent since I never received it and I won’t get that one either. Im getting all other types of mail expect the important ones. I have never had an issue with mail not being delivered/ going missing before this so it just seems suspicious that it’s happening now. I don’t know how to prove it but I know it was him. During the divorce his wife tried to block him from being able to deliver her mail because she also said she was missing mail but apparently the post office dismissed her. What can I do legally and how do I prove this? I do not want him handling my mail if he hates me.
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Consider signing up for the Postal Service's Informed Delivery service. If it's available in your area, Informed Delivery will email you a picture of the letter-size mail that will be delivered in a day or two, and has a way to report missing mail.
Call the postal police. They are probably the scariest law enforcement organization in the US. Tell them you want to file a report.
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My neighbor that I don’t get along with is my mailman. My mail has been going missing. I have lived next door to him and his family for the past 10 years and we’ve never had an issue until recently. He has also been our mailman for the last 2 years when his route changed to include our street. During covid him and his wife filed for a divorce and it turned messy. Since neither of them could afford to move out, she would often come over to my house to take a break from the tension. Her and I were friends and would hang out before the divorce but I didn’t want to “pick sides” because I still had to live next door to him too. I even politely refused when she asked me to be a character witness for her because I didn’t want things to be awkward. Well, about 6 months ago he confronted me outside my house saying that I’m a horrible neighbor and I’m helping his wife screw him out of money. I brushed it off to him being angry about the divorce in general and the fact that we were still friends. Over the next couple of months he would regularly yell at me about little things that he didn’t have an issue with before like a tree branch hanging in his yard or my dogs barking. Then I started realizing that some of my important mail from the IRS or the state was not being delivered. This has happened 6-7 times in the last 4 months. I will request another document to be sent since I never received it and I won’t get that one either. Im getting all other types of mail expect the important ones. I have never had an issue with mail not being delivered/ going missing before this so it just seems suspicious that it’s happening now. I don’t know how to prove it but I know it was him. During the divorce his wife tried to block him from being able to deliver her mail because she also said she was missing mail but apparently the post office dismissed her. What can I do legally and how do I prove this? I do not want him handling my mail if he hates me.
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Consider signing up for the Postal Service's Informed Delivery service. If it's available in your area, Informed Delivery will email you a picture of the letter-size mail that will be delivered in a day or two, and has a way to report missing mail.
Get a PO Box for important mail. Forward your regular mail to the new PO Box. Problem solved for now. File a written report first with the Postmaster at your post office.
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My neighbor that I don’t get along with is my mailman. My mail has been going missing. I have lived next door to him and his family for the past 10 years and we’ve never had an issue until recently. He has also been our mailman for the last 2 years when his route changed to include our street. During covid him and his wife filed for a divorce and it turned messy. Since neither of them could afford to move out, she would often come over to my house to take a break from the tension. Her and I were friends and would hang out before the divorce but I didn’t want to “pick sides” because I still had to live next door to him too. I even politely refused when she asked me to be a character witness for her because I didn’t want things to be awkward. Well, about 6 months ago he confronted me outside my house saying that I’m a horrible neighbor and I’m helping his wife screw him out of money. I brushed it off to him being angry about the divorce in general and the fact that we were still friends. Over the next couple of months he would regularly yell at me about little things that he didn’t have an issue with before like a tree branch hanging in his yard or my dogs barking. Then I started realizing that some of my important mail from the IRS or the state was not being delivered. This has happened 6-7 times in the last 4 months. I will request another document to be sent since I never received it and I won’t get that one either. Im getting all other types of mail expect the important ones. I have never had an issue with mail not being delivered/ going missing before this so it just seems suspicious that it’s happening now. I don’t know how to prove it but I know it was him. During the divorce his wife tried to block him from being able to deliver her mail because she also said she was missing mail but apparently the post office dismissed her. What can I do legally and how do I prove this? I do not want him handling my mail if he hates me.
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Informed delivery is your record of proof. There's a lot of factors going on with the postal service right now that have made things overall not ideal from any angle, to put it politely. It could be a lot of things. It could be a call to the station. It could be getting a PO Box and seeing if it's an issue of the regular bid assignment's behavior being in error or a blameless technological happenstance. You can always file for a Harassment Restraining Order, but it sounds like a good way to ruin the fragile peace between property lines. A little camera would capture movement near your mailbox and combined with Informed Delivery emails, it may isolate when and where the error is taking place.
Get a PO Box for important mail. Forward your regular mail to the new PO Box. Problem solved for now. File a written report first with the Postmaster at your post office.
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Seeking advice on how to handle a misidentification issue that has plagued me for the last 4 years. So here’s the situation: There is an individual wanted by Interpol (for murder) who by extremely unfortunate coincidence, has the same exact name and DOB as me. Besides that, everything else is different; birthplace, nationality, height, weight. Despite that, it’s been a shitshow for me every time I have to go through passport control in another country (I managed to acquire a redress number from DHS so that I don’t have issues at US immigration, as I’m a US Citizen). A whole group of officers would gather and stare at me like a criminal while my wife and daughter are standing next to me. Just recently in Barcelona during our first night there, I got a knock on my hotel room at 4am with 2 Spanish cops asking me about my identity while I was half asleep. Before that, I’ve been questioned in a couple other countries I visited, got delayed starting a new job because it came up during the background check, and was surrounded by multiple cops during a routine traffic stop in my neighborhood because it came up in their database. Fortunately, an officer at Lisbon passport control recently told me that the Interpol notice will expire in August 2024, but there’s no guarantee that it won’t be renewed by the country that wants to find this person, which obviously will continue my issues. My question is, is there anything I can do from a legal aspect that can protect me from these suspicions from law enforcement authorities? The last thing I want is someone aggressive decide to arrest me and ask questions later while I’m in another country with my family. This individual has been the bane of my existence, and I wish I could offer money to have him caught.
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Have you contacted Interpol?
Your best bet is likely to contact INTERPOL to see if they can help resolve this. The Commission for the Control of INTERPOL’s Files is the body that handles issues with data in INTERPOL's systems.
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Seeking advice on how to handle a misidentification issue that has plagued me for the last 4 years. So here’s the situation: There is an individual wanted by Interpol (for murder) who by extremely unfortunate coincidence, has the same exact name and DOB as me. Besides that, everything else is different; birthplace, nationality, height, weight. Despite that, it’s been a shitshow for me every time I have to go through passport control in another country (I managed to acquire a redress number from DHS so that I don’t have issues at US immigration, as I’m a US Citizen). A whole group of officers would gather and stare at me like a criminal while my wife and daughter are standing next to me. Just recently in Barcelona during our first night there, I got a knock on my hotel room at 4am with 2 Spanish cops asking me about my identity while I was half asleep. Before that, I’ve been questioned in a couple other countries I visited, got delayed starting a new job because it came up during the background check, and was surrounded by multiple cops during a routine traffic stop in my neighborhood because it came up in their database. Fortunately, an officer at Lisbon passport control recently told me that the Interpol notice will expire in August 2024, but there’s no guarantee that it won’t be renewed by the country that wants to find this person, which obviously will continue my issues. My question is, is there anything I can do from a legal aspect that can protect me from these suspicions from law enforcement authorities? The last thing I want is someone aggressive decide to arrest me and ask questions later while I’m in another country with my family. This individual has been the bane of my existence, and I wish I could offer money to have him caught.
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Your best bet is likely to contact INTERPOL to see if they can help resolve this. The Commission for the Control of INTERPOL’s Files is the body that handles issues with data in INTERPOL's systems.
r/LegalAdviceEurope/ may be another good place to post. This sub is mostly US specific advice.
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Seeking advice on how to handle a misidentification issue that has plagued me for the last 4 years. So here’s the situation: There is an individual wanted by Interpol (for murder) who by extremely unfortunate coincidence, has the same exact name and DOB as me. Besides that, everything else is different; birthplace, nationality, height, weight. Despite that, it’s been a shitshow for me every time I have to go through passport control in another country (I managed to acquire a redress number from DHS so that I don’t have issues at US immigration, as I’m a US Citizen). A whole group of officers would gather and stare at me like a criminal while my wife and daughter are standing next to me. Just recently in Barcelona during our first night there, I got a knock on my hotel room at 4am with 2 Spanish cops asking me about my identity while I was half asleep. Before that, I’ve been questioned in a couple other countries I visited, got delayed starting a new job because it came up during the background check, and was surrounded by multiple cops during a routine traffic stop in my neighborhood because it came up in their database. Fortunately, an officer at Lisbon passport control recently told me that the Interpol notice will expire in August 2024, but there’s no guarantee that it won’t be renewed by the country that wants to find this person, which obviously will continue my issues. My question is, is there anything I can do from a legal aspect that can protect me from these suspicions from law enforcement authorities? The last thing I want is someone aggressive decide to arrest me and ask questions later while I’m in another country with my family. This individual has been the bane of my existence, and I wish I could offer money to have him caught.
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Have you contacted Interpol?
r/LegalAdviceEurope/ may be another good place to post. This sub is mostly US specific advice.
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2yr old son sustained crush injury by automatic sliding door on our new car about 2 weeks ago. Just been notified of a recall to fix an issue with door that has been found to be faulty. So my 2yr old had his hand crushed pretty bad. Needed an X-ray and wouldn’t use the hand for about 4 days. Today received a recall notice saying the software needs an update at it has been found to be faulty, that it may not reverse when some instructions are detected and this could cause injury. I wonder how long they have know about this issue. Would an earlier recall have prevented my sons injury and suffering. I am in Australia. Should I take any action?
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Hi, I just wanted to say thank you for posting this. We have been having trouble with our Kia Sedona van (Canada) and your post prompted me to look for recalls and low and behold ours is also part of the recall. I’m sorry for your son - best wishes for a speedy recovery!
You may be able to sue but if you are just looking for rembursement I would contact the vehicles manufacturer directly they may be willing to help to avoid a lawsuit.
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2yr old son sustained crush injury by automatic sliding door on our new car about 2 weeks ago. Just been notified of a recall to fix an issue with door that has been found to be faulty. So my 2yr old had his hand crushed pretty bad. Needed an X-ray and wouldn’t use the hand for about 4 days. Today received a recall notice saying the software needs an update at it has been found to be faulty, that it may not reverse when some instructions are detected and this could cause injury. I wonder how long they have know about this issue. Would an earlier recall have prevented my sons injury and suffering. I am in Australia. Should I take any action?
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Curiosity kicking up. There is a service bulletin for our van and haven't gotten it done yet and we've got small kids and haven't had a chance to get it taken in. What make/model?
Hi, I just wanted to say thank you for posting this. We have been having trouble with our Kia Sedona van (Canada) and your post prompted me to look for recalls and low and behold ours is also part of the recall. I’m sorry for your son - best wishes for a speedy recovery!
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Contractor disconnected the sink drain, but didn't tell us. Water has been draining into the cabinet and down the walls for 2 weeks. What the title says. We had a contractor install insulation which involved drilling holes in the walls and blowing insulation in. They had to drill holes under the sink in a bathroom and I guess they disconnected the p-trap to get better access to the wall. Not only did they not reconnect the drain, but they didn't tell us about it. We've been using the sink for 2 weeks before I noticed. There's clear mold growth under the sink and the inside of the cabinet is toast. How dangerous is the mold, and what recourse do I have with the contractor? We're in CA and the contractor is licensed.
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Some types of contractors may not be able to reconnect it, though they should definitely inform you. How did you not notice for 2 weeks though? Mold is not dangerous unless you're allergic, btw. Your recourse would be to sue the contractor for the cost of repairs and hope a judge agrees that they are responsible.
Document everything. Videos, text messages. Have another professional come in and clearly document what they did wrong and the result of it and how much it will cost to fix it. If they're licensed, you can go to the licensing board and ask for mediation, or sue them in small claims unless its above the threshold for your state. You'll need expert testimony saying what was improperly done, and what happened due the mistake. Have them write it out on an invoice along with the estimate.
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My GF’s restaurant job is claiming more tips than she actually makes per week resulting in her getting a $0 net pay from them on her check. Management denies it and gives us the run around. Who do we go to for this type of situation? Her paycheck shows about $1,400 claimed tips with about $1,200 in taxable deductions(take home cash I am assuming) but in reality she’s likely walked home around $500 in this period. This is based on 34 total hours of work, 17 hours a week. Some shifts are banquets that she will work and they get paid out to her on the check rather than cash but with a $0 check she makes nothing from that shift. There’s a lot to this and it just blows my mind.
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Between the tips being cashed out and the taxes on the tips being taken out of the paycheck, it's not unusual for servers to end up with zero net pay on their check. Some restaurants do report a minimum percentage of tips to avoid getting in trouble with IRS, it's possible that could be happening here. Without understanding exactly what she's walking away with every day in tips and the specifics of her paystub, it's hard to say for sure if something illegal is happening. If restaurant says they are paying credit card tips on her check and not cashing them out at end of shift, then her paycheck should definitely be higher unless everyone tips in cash.
What location?
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My GF’s restaurant job is claiming more tips than she actually makes per week resulting in her getting a $0 net pay from them on her check. Management denies it and gives us the run around. Who do we go to for this type of situation? Her paycheck shows about $1,400 claimed tips with about $1,200 in taxable deductions(take home cash I am assuming) but in reality she’s likely walked home around $500 in this period. This is based on 34 total hours of work, 17 hours a week. Some shifts are banquets that she will work and they get paid out to her on the check rather than cash but with a $0 check she makes nothing from that shift. There’s a lot to this and it just blows my mind.
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What location?
You need to break down how much she made in cash tips, how much in credit card tips, and how much she tips out to bussers, etc. From there, you compare those numbers with the cash and credit card tip amounts that the restaurant is reporting and you'll be able to see where they are overestimating her tips. In general, the tips being claimed should be at least 12% of the server's sales to avoid IRS issues. Servers usually something right around 12% or so. It would be unusual for a server to claim more than about 15-17% of sales. So you can also check her sales for those two weeks as a sanity check. At $500 in claimed tips, her sales for 2 weeks should be around $4,200, which seems pretty low, tbh. At $1,400 in claimed tips, her sales should be $11,500 or so, which sounds like it's closer to accurate, but maybe a bit high for 6 - 7 shifts. Both parties may be a bit off in their accounting here. Her best bet is to start keeping very accurate and detailed logs of all her tips for a pay period, and then going back to management with her results. In the meantime, she might have some luck asking another server to look over her pay stub to see if anything looks unusual.
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Kansas: My neighbors appear to be hiding a vehicle between my rental home's fence, and their garage. It is parked on grass that i am responsible for mowing, so i assume "my property". If its stolen, or was involved in a crime, could i get in trouble? They covered the plate with a paper towel...
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Assume nothing. Get a survey done, and then you'll know. If it's on your property, contact the owner and ask them to remove it. If they leave it there, call a tow company. You could also make a police report that your neighbour is trespassing and parking his car on your property, and let them tow it. If it's not on your property, why are you mowing it?
Not a lawyer, but you could ask your landlord. Play dumb "I know it is my responsibility to mow the lawn but there's been a car in the way, have I been mowing your yard or theirs?" The landlord wont want to be ticketed for high grass and will take care of the car being in the way. The paper towel thing may be something stupid like the tags being expired and them not wanting ticketed for an untagged vehicle.
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Kansas: My neighbors appear to be hiding a vehicle between my rental home's fence, and their garage. It is parked on grass that i am responsible for mowing, so i assume "my property". If its stolen, or was involved in a crime, could i get in trouble? They covered the plate with a paper towel...
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Maybe they're trying to avoid getting it repo'd? Although what's the point if they can't drive it.
If you like your neighbors, ask what's going on or if they can move it periodically so you can keep mowing. If you do not like them, call the police non-emergency number and report the plate and make, stating that you found it hidden. Is there a chance a 3rd party stashed it and they don't know it's there?
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Landlord has been harassing me about "neighbors' complaints about cat smell." Today she admitted she was lying about the complaints and the smell. How do I stop the harassment? (Note: I admit this is a crazy situation. I wouldn't believe it myself if it weren't happening to me, but I've documented everything.) &#x200B; I'm an apartment tenant who moved to a city in New York State in November last year. For the first nine months I lived here, things were peaceful and I got along well with the landlord and maintenance. In July, when I was paying my rent, the landlord told me that there had been "complaints" from the neighbors about a smell coming from my apartment. I was very apologetic, but I was also a bit confused as I didn't notice any odd smells in my place. I have two cats, but I'd been keeping their litterboxes clean. I had cats in the two apartments I'd lived in prior to moving here, and there hadn't been any complaints there or in the nine months prior here. But I promised to be extra vigilant about any smells, and I was. &#x200B; Then at the beginning of this month when I paid my rent again, the landlord again referred to "neighbors' complaints" about smells from my apartment. I said I'd again make sure any smells were taken care of--even though neither I nor anyone else could smell anything off--and again I did. Two weeks later there was a threatening note my door claiming that I was not keeping my apartment "to standard" and that this was a "final warning". This time I was a bit more angry about it, as I had really been vigilant about everything--new litter pans, deodorants everywhere, cleaned apartment from top to bottom in those two weeks, the works. I could smell absolutely nothing in my apartment, even if I put my face right next to the litterbox! The landlord told me she would come to my apartment in person today. As it happened this morning there were a couple maintenance men fixing the washing machine in the room next to mine. I asked them if they'd noticed "anything unusual" in the hallway by my door...they said they did not, no smells or anything else. I was getting a little suspicious. &#x200B; Sure enough about an hour later the landlord comes over and immediately starts complaining about "overwhelming smells" coming from my door. I mentioned what the maintenance men had just said about the hallway. She claimed "well it's cat pee and it has to be your apartment because nobody else in this building has cats." (Totally false...in fact the neighbor directly across the hall also has two cats!) She continued on by saying "well the neighbors are sure that it's coming from your apartment." I asked how the neighbors could be certain of that. Then she backtracked. "*Well actually the neighbors haven't made any complaints*, but I think there's a cat smell here." Then she claimed that she knew there was a cat smell "because I can tell when you come to pay the rent." Uh...really? "*OK maybe it isn't cat smell*, I don't know, maybe you smell bad? I don't know." I was totally speechless. Then she quickly made excuses, saying she'd be back next week, and took off. &#x200B; I realize this is a situation almost too stupid for words, but I'm at my wits' end here. Basically the landlord is threatening me over a totally non-existent problem, compounding it by lying about "neighbors' complaints" that never happened, and topping it off by insulting me about alleged bad body odor. (And yes I'll be the first to agree that people are immune to their own body odor, but she's claimed that it can be smelled in the hallway outside of my apartment even when I haven't been there for days!) I'm not sure what the legal remedy might be for this, but this harassment absolutely has to stop. I'm furious that I've been lied to, threatened, and insulted over this.
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Yeahhh... I work in property management and agree with the previous comment. Your landlord is gearing up for something involved with you specifically. It’s unprofessional. I would leave as soon as possible which is likely what she wants you to do.
Legal advice: landlord hasn't done anything illegal. If she files for eviction, show up. Practical: no more friendly chats. Email only, strictly business. Send rent via your bank's bill pay, or certified mail. If you must speak in person, record her. There's something fishy afoot, either in her intentions or in her noodle.
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Landlord has been harassing me about "neighbors' complaints about cat smell." Today she admitted she was lying about the complaints and the smell. How do I stop the harassment? (Note: I admit this is a crazy situation. I wouldn't believe it myself if it weren't happening to me, but I've documented everything.) &#x200B; I'm an apartment tenant who moved to a city in New York State in November last year. For the first nine months I lived here, things were peaceful and I got along well with the landlord and maintenance. In July, when I was paying my rent, the landlord told me that there had been "complaints" from the neighbors about a smell coming from my apartment. I was very apologetic, but I was also a bit confused as I didn't notice any odd smells in my place. I have two cats, but I'd been keeping their litterboxes clean. I had cats in the two apartments I'd lived in prior to moving here, and there hadn't been any complaints there or in the nine months prior here. But I promised to be extra vigilant about any smells, and I was. &#x200B; Then at the beginning of this month when I paid my rent again, the landlord again referred to "neighbors' complaints" about smells from my apartment. I said I'd again make sure any smells were taken care of--even though neither I nor anyone else could smell anything off--and again I did. Two weeks later there was a threatening note my door claiming that I was not keeping my apartment "to standard" and that this was a "final warning". This time I was a bit more angry about it, as I had really been vigilant about everything--new litter pans, deodorants everywhere, cleaned apartment from top to bottom in those two weeks, the works. I could smell absolutely nothing in my apartment, even if I put my face right next to the litterbox! The landlord told me she would come to my apartment in person today. As it happened this morning there were a couple maintenance men fixing the washing machine in the room next to mine. I asked them if they'd noticed "anything unusual" in the hallway by my door...they said they did not, no smells or anything else. I was getting a little suspicious. &#x200B; Sure enough about an hour later the landlord comes over and immediately starts complaining about "overwhelming smells" coming from my door. I mentioned what the maintenance men had just said about the hallway. She claimed "well it's cat pee and it has to be your apartment because nobody else in this building has cats." (Totally false...in fact the neighbor directly across the hall also has two cats!) She continued on by saying "well the neighbors are sure that it's coming from your apartment." I asked how the neighbors could be certain of that. Then she backtracked. "*Well actually the neighbors haven't made any complaints*, but I think there's a cat smell here." Then she claimed that she knew there was a cat smell "because I can tell when you come to pay the rent." Uh...really? "*OK maybe it isn't cat smell*, I don't know, maybe you smell bad? I don't know." I was totally speechless. Then she quickly made excuses, saying she'd be back next week, and took off. &#x200B; I realize this is a situation almost too stupid for words, but I'm at my wits' end here. Basically the landlord is threatening me over a totally non-existent problem, compounding it by lying about "neighbors' complaints" that never happened, and topping it off by insulting me about alleged bad body odor. (And yes I'll be the first to agree that people are immune to their own body odor, but she's claimed that it can be smelled in the hallway outside of my apartment even when I haven't been there for days!) I'm not sure what the legal remedy might be for this, but this harassment absolutely has to stop. I'm furious that I've been lied to, threatened, and insulted over this.
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Yeahhh... I work in property management and agree with the previous comment. Your landlord is gearing up for something involved with you specifically. It’s unprofessional. I would leave as soon as possible which is likely what she wants you to do.
I know this is a LA cliche at this point, but grab a cheap "nanny cam" type device and put it somewhere that can see your door and as much of your apartment as practical. When a LL hits this level of crazy, them entering your apartment while you are away becomes extremely likely.
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Landlord has been harassing me about "neighbors' complaints about cat smell." Today she admitted she was lying about the complaints and the smell. How do I stop the harassment? (Note: I admit this is a crazy situation. I wouldn't believe it myself if it weren't happening to me, but I've documented everything.) &#x200B; I'm an apartment tenant who moved to a city in New York State in November last year. For the first nine months I lived here, things were peaceful and I got along well with the landlord and maintenance. In July, when I was paying my rent, the landlord told me that there had been "complaints" from the neighbors about a smell coming from my apartment. I was very apologetic, but I was also a bit confused as I didn't notice any odd smells in my place. I have two cats, but I'd been keeping their litterboxes clean. I had cats in the two apartments I'd lived in prior to moving here, and there hadn't been any complaints there or in the nine months prior here. But I promised to be extra vigilant about any smells, and I was. &#x200B; Then at the beginning of this month when I paid my rent again, the landlord again referred to "neighbors' complaints" about smells from my apartment. I said I'd again make sure any smells were taken care of--even though neither I nor anyone else could smell anything off--and again I did. Two weeks later there was a threatening note my door claiming that I was not keeping my apartment "to standard" and that this was a "final warning". This time I was a bit more angry about it, as I had really been vigilant about everything--new litter pans, deodorants everywhere, cleaned apartment from top to bottom in those two weeks, the works. I could smell absolutely nothing in my apartment, even if I put my face right next to the litterbox! The landlord told me she would come to my apartment in person today. As it happened this morning there were a couple maintenance men fixing the washing machine in the room next to mine. I asked them if they'd noticed "anything unusual" in the hallway by my door...they said they did not, no smells or anything else. I was getting a little suspicious. &#x200B; Sure enough about an hour later the landlord comes over and immediately starts complaining about "overwhelming smells" coming from my door. I mentioned what the maintenance men had just said about the hallway. She claimed "well it's cat pee and it has to be your apartment because nobody else in this building has cats." (Totally false...in fact the neighbor directly across the hall also has two cats!) She continued on by saying "well the neighbors are sure that it's coming from your apartment." I asked how the neighbors could be certain of that. Then she backtracked. "*Well actually the neighbors haven't made any complaints*, but I think there's a cat smell here." Then she claimed that she knew there was a cat smell "because I can tell when you come to pay the rent." Uh...really? "*OK maybe it isn't cat smell*, I don't know, maybe you smell bad? I don't know." I was totally speechless. Then she quickly made excuses, saying she'd be back next week, and took off. &#x200B; I realize this is a situation almost too stupid for words, but I'm at my wits' end here. Basically the landlord is threatening me over a totally non-existent problem, compounding it by lying about "neighbors' complaints" that never happened, and topping it off by insulting me about alleged bad body odor. (And yes I'll be the first to agree that people are immune to their own body odor, but she's claimed that it can be smelled in the hallway outside of my apartment even when I haven't been there for days!) I'm not sure what the legal remedy might be for this, but this harassment absolutely has to stop. I'm furious that I've been lied to, threatened, and insulted over this.
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I know this is a LA cliche at this point, but grab a cheap "nanny cam" type device and put it somewhere that can see your door and as much of your apartment as practical. When a LL hits this level of crazy, them entering your apartment while you are away becomes extremely likely.
I hate having to ask this question, but it always seems to be an "ah ha!" moment once it's found out. But are you of an ethnicity/ known religion/known sexual orientation that's different from your landlord?
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(FL) Psychotic neighbor has been harassing and threatening us on and off for 2 years and his father wont do anything about it. So for some background I live in a 2 bedroom apartment on the 2nd story with my mom and little brother. We own our space but the unit next to us is a rental that has had multiple families move in and out over the past 10 years. 2 years ago a middle age man and his son in his late 20's moved in. About a month after their initial move in I wake up at 2am to the son banging on our door, saying that "I know it's you talking outside my window, watch you back I'm gonna fucking kill you". After a call to the police(who told me they really couldn't do anything because neither him nor his father would answer after we called) we learned from the father that his son had suffered some sort of brain injury and showed signs of psychosis and that he was on medication for it, but he wont take it and his father wont force him to. From here on out for the next two years it's become a cycle of 2 months of silence, 2 weeks of harrassment before things come to a head and we have to call the cops, and nothing gets done. this week however after a heated confrontation he pushed my shoulders, took a kick at my legs, and threatened to rape my mother. Again another call to the cops and nothing, and I'm at my wits end. I have an anxiety disorder and I'm tired of being nervous to go outside MY OWN FUCKING HOUSE, and I feel like if this keeps going on, someone is going to get VERY hurt, So what do I do? PS: Some more info on my neighbor, he has an active case for aggravated stalking against another neighbor of ours that he is currently out on bail for, and before living in the unit he has spent two years in jail for kidnapping/assault with deadly weapon/ sexual assault. Also obviously I'm not a lawyer but is his father allowed to leave his son unattended for 8 hrs at a time? hes a night uber driver and when he leaves his son starts stalking around the neighborhood
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Escalate it up the chain of command with the police; you were physically assaulted. They can’t just ignore that, especially since he has a record.
Call APS
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(FL) Psychotic neighbor has been harassing and threatening us on and off for 2 years and his father wont do anything about it. So for some background I live in a 2 bedroom apartment on the 2nd story with my mom and little brother. We own our space but the unit next to us is a rental that has had multiple families move in and out over the past 10 years. 2 years ago a middle age man and his son in his late 20's moved in. About a month after their initial move in I wake up at 2am to the son banging on our door, saying that "I know it's you talking outside my window, watch you back I'm gonna fucking kill you". After a call to the police(who told me they really couldn't do anything because neither him nor his father would answer after we called) we learned from the father that his son had suffered some sort of brain injury and showed signs of psychosis and that he was on medication for it, but he wont take it and his father wont force him to. From here on out for the next two years it's become a cycle of 2 months of silence, 2 weeks of harrassment before things come to a head and we have to call the cops, and nothing gets done. this week however after a heated confrontation he pushed my shoulders, took a kick at my legs, and threatened to rape my mother. Again another call to the cops and nothing, and I'm at my wits end. I have an anxiety disorder and I'm tired of being nervous to go outside MY OWN FUCKING HOUSE, and I feel like if this keeps going on, someone is going to get VERY hurt, So what do I do? PS: Some more info on my neighbor, he has an active case for aggravated stalking against another neighbor of ours that he is currently out on bail for, and before living in the unit he has spent two years in jail for kidnapping/assault with deadly weapon/ sexual assault. Also obviously I'm not a lawyer but is his father allowed to leave his son unattended for 8 hrs at a time? hes a night uber driver and when he leaves his son starts stalking around the neighborhood
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Do you know who the owner of the rental is? I bet they would like to know what is going on and that they are harassing others.
It's perfectly legal for the father to leave his adult son unattended while he's at work.
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(FL) Psychotic neighbor has been harassing and threatening us on and off for 2 years and his father wont do anything about it. So for some background I live in a 2 bedroom apartment on the 2nd story with my mom and little brother. We own our space but the unit next to us is a rental that has had multiple families move in and out over the past 10 years. 2 years ago a middle age man and his son in his late 20's moved in. About a month after their initial move in I wake up at 2am to the son banging on our door, saying that "I know it's you talking outside my window, watch you back I'm gonna fucking kill you". After a call to the police(who told me they really couldn't do anything because neither him nor his father would answer after we called) we learned from the father that his son had suffered some sort of brain injury and showed signs of psychosis and that he was on medication for it, but he wont take it and his father wont force him to. From here on out for the next two years it's become a cycle of 2 months of silence, 2 weeks of harrassment before things come to a head and we have to call the cops, and nothing gets done. this week however after a heated confrontation he pushed my shoulders, took a kick at my legs, and threatened to rape my mother. Again another call to the cops and nothing, and I'm at my wits end. I have an anxiety disorder and I'm tired of being nervous to go outside MY OWN FUCKING HOUSE, and I feel like if this keeps going on, someone is going to get VERY hurt, So what do I do? PS: Some more info on my neighbor, he has an active case for aggravated stalking against another neighbor of ours that he is currently out on bail for, and before living in the unit he has spent two years in jail for kidnapping/assault with deadly weapon/ sexual assault. Also obviously I'm not a lawyer but is his father allowed to leave his son unattended for 8 hrs at a time? hes a night uber driver and when he leaves his son starts stalking around the neighborhood
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You're kind of leaning on the wrong side of this. Dad can do whatever they want. The cops are the ones failing. "they don't answer the call" isn't true, they can absolutely do more. Call and make sure to emphasize you want a protective order. If at first you're getting the run around, go in and report in person. Go up the chain. Keep a log of incidents and details. Time, date, what happened. If you can record sound or video, do it.
It's perfectly legal for the father to leave his adult son unattended while he's at work.
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My mother was fired abruptly after 25+ years of service My mother worked at Wendys for around 28 years and last week she was fired for "upsetting a coworker". No written warning, as per the policy in the handbook. Was told she had been given two prior verbal warnings but that was it. In the last couple years it had come to my mothers attention, through various conversations with her coworkers, that employees just starting out were being paid more than my mother. And that other employees were getting raise increases more than my mother. After 28 years you would think she would be at least making the same amount as people starting. My question is, is there a case here on the pay discrepancy alone? How could she go about legal action against her former employer and whose attention would she need to get? She is located in PA. She will be 60 this year and is a widow, and now being unemployed may be tough to pursue this cause if it is a lost one from the get go. The Wendys is I believe a franchise location, but it may have went corporate a couple years ago.
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When your mother turns 60 because she is a widow she will be eligible to draw off her husband's Social Security account (if this is in the USA and he paid into SSA). So I hope that will be able to help you. Normally, you have to have a written warning after a verbal warning before you can be fired but consult with an attorney who specializes in age discrimination cases.
Yeah you can be fired for being mean. You can be fired for almost any reason, save for reasons forbidden by law (being a woman, for example, Caroline Products FN4 and whatever else has come after, been awhile since I took Con Law). But she has a ton of experience. She should apply to damn near any fast food joint that needs people and get a job. I am sure she knows the jkb well enough to be a shift Mgr. So when she does that, she needs to go back and thank the people at Wendy's for forcing her from her comfort zone and getting the promotion and raise she deserved.
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My mother was fired abruptly after 25+ years of service My mother worked at Wendys for around 28 years and last week she was fired for "upsetting a coworker". No written warning, as per the policy in the handbook. Was told she had been given two prior verbal warnings but that was it. In the last couple years it had come to my mothers attention, through various conversations with her coworkers, that employees just starting out were being paid more than my mother. And that other employees were getting raise increases more than my mother. After 28 years you would think she would be at least making the same amount as people starting. My question is, is there a case here on the pay discrepancy alone? How could she go about legal action against her former employer and whose attention would she need to get? She is located in PA. She will be 60 this year and is a widow, and now being unemployed may be tough to pursue this cause if it is a lost one from the get go. The Wendys is I believe a franchise location, but it may have went corporate a couple years ago.
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*In the last couple years it had come to my mothers attention, through various conversations with her coworkers, that employees just starting out were being paid more than my mother.* This is everywhere. In today's job market, the way to raise your income is to change jobs. Staying in the same fast food job for over 20 years is not the way to make money or advance yourself. Not even saying you have to get out of fast food, you just have to change jobs often at least every 5 years or so to get paid.
When your mother turns 60 because she is a widow she will be eligible to draw off her husband's Social Security account (if this is in the USA and he paid into SSA). So I hope that will be able to help you. Normally, you have to have a written warning after a verbal warning before you can be fired but consult with an attorney who specializes in age discrimination cases.
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My mother was fired abruptly after 25+ years of service My mother worked at Wendys for around 28 years and last week she was fired for "upsetting a coworker". No written warning, as per the policy in the handbook. Was told she had been given two prior verbal warnings but that was it. In the last couple years it had come to my mothers attention, through various conversations with her coworkers, that employees just starting out were being paid more than my mother. And that other employees were getting raise increases more than my mother. After 28 years you would think she would be at least making the same amount as people starting. My question is, is there a case here on the pay discrepancy alone? How could she go about legal action against her former employer and whose attention would she need to get? She is located in PA. She will be 60 this year and is a widow, and now being unemployed may be tough to pursue this cause if it is a lost one from the get go. The Wendys is I believe a franchise location, but it may have went corporate a couple years ago.
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If she was being paid less than new employees then she can apply at another fast food restaurant and make more money. Is she losing benefits?
*In the last couple years it had come to my mothers attention, through various conversations with her coworkers, that employees just starting out were being paid more than my mother.* This is everywhere. In today's job market, the way to raise your income is to change jobs. Staying in the same fast food job for over 20 years is not the way to make money or advance yourself. Not even saying you have to get out of fast food, you just have to change jobs often at least every 5 years or so to get paid.
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My mother was fired abruptly after 25+ years of service My mother worked at Wendys for around 28 years and last week she was fired for "upsetting a coworker". No written warning, as per the policy in the handbook. Was told she had been given two prior verbal warnings but that was it. In the last couple years it had come to my mothers attention, through various conversations with her coworkers, that employees just starting out were being paid more than my mother. And that other employees were getting raise increases more than my mother. After 28 years you would think she would be at least making the same amount as people starting. My question is, is there a case here on the pay discrepancy alone? How could she go about legal action against her former employer and whose attention would she need to get? She is located in PA. She will be 60 this year and is a widow, and now being unemployed may be tough to pursue this cause if it is a lost one from the get go. The Wendys is I believe a franchise location, but it may have went corporate a couple years ago.
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getting fired from wendys after 28 nis probably the best thing that has happened to her in 28 years. people stay at jobs cause its comfortable. i imagine its not something she loves and i would put money on her making less than $5 more per hour than she was 15 years ago.
If she was being paid less than new employees then she can apply at another fast food restaurant and make more money. Is she losing benefits?
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My mother was fired abruptly after 25+ years of service My mother worked at Wendys for around 28 years and last week she was fired for "upsetting a coworker". No written warning, as per the policy in the handbook. Was told she had been given two prior verbal warnings but that was it. In the last couple years it had come to my mothers attention, through various conversations with her coworkers, that employees just starting out were being paid more than my mother. And that other employees were getting raise increases more than my mother. After 28 years you would think she would be at least making the same amount as people starting. My question is, is there a case here on the pay discrepancy alone? How could she go about legal action against her former employer and whose attention would she need to get? She is located in PA. She will be 60 this year and is a widow, and now being unemployed may be tough to pursue this cause if it is a lost one from the get go. The Wendys is I believe a franchise location, but it may have went corporate a couple years ago.
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getting fired from wendys after 28 nis probably the best thing that has happened to her in 28 years. people stay at jobs cause its comfortable. i imagine its not something she loves and i would put money on her making less than $5 more per hour than she was 15 years ago.
It's obvious your mother loved her job, so much so, that she was willing to turn down promotions with more pay. You mention franchise, so I presume this is a traditional "fast food restaurant" environment, and not a corporate job. 50 somethings and 16-20 something year olds don't always communicate well with each other. Your mother had 2 previous warnings, then got fired on a third strike, in an at-will employment state. There's nothing wrong with going across the street to work for Mc Donald's. Do you really believe that your mother's employer should hand out increased pay for the same job, when your mother has turned down opportunities to grow in the company? How many times did your mother actually ask for a raise? What was the response to those requests? Perhaps there are more details that you can provide.
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My mother was fired abruptly after 25+ years of service My mother worked at Wendys for around 28 years and last week she was fired for "upsetting a coworker". No written warning, as per the policy in the handbook. Was told she had been given two prior verbal warnings but that was it. In the last couple years it had come to my mothers attention, through various conversations with her coworkers, that employees just starting out were being paid more than my mother. And that other employees were getting raise increases more than my mother. After 28 years you would think she would be at least making the same amount as people starting. My question is, is there a case here on the pay discrepancy alone? How could she go about legal action against her former employer and whose attention would she need to get? She is located in PA. She will be 60 this year and is a widow, and now being unemployed may be tough to pursue this cause if it is a lost one from the get go. The Wendys is I believe a franchise location, but it may have went corporate a couple years ago.
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It's obvious your mother loved her job, so much so, that she was willing to turn down promotions with more pay. You mention franchise, so I presume this is a traditional "fast food restaurant" environment, and not a corporate job. 50 somethings and 16-20 something year olds don't always communicate well with each other. Your mother had 2 previous warnings, then got fired on a third strike, in an at-will employment state. There's nothing wrong with going across the street to work for Mc Donald's. Do you really believe that your mother's employer should hand out increased pay for the same job, when your mother has turned down opportunities to grow in the company? How many times did your mother actually ask for a raise? What was the response to those requests? Perhaps there are more details that you can provide.
If she was being paid less than new employees then she can apply at another fast food restaurant and make more money. Is she losing benefits?
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