Episode 39: Dawn and the Older Boy

Tanner forces Jack to look at the book cover.

The denim man...

Depiction of Ovid's narrative by Jean Raoux

Sacre Coeur at night

"Baby" pics for the What Should I Read Next appearance.

The episode for "Dawn and the Older Boy" was originally released on November 21, 2016. **You can listen to it here.** This episode is 48:44 long.This week's ghostwriter: Mary Lou Kennedy.

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## Official Episode Description

Tanner checks in with Jack all the way from Paris to talk about Dawn's latest escapade with a gross older man named Travis. It's a Dawn book, so there are some inevitable religious undertones to deal with, but the main issue is the creepiness of Dawn and Travis's relationship, a topic that is treated with all the gravity that Tanner's atrocious French accent can muster.

## Music Credits

* “Happy Chances,” by Nicolai Heidlas
* “Let the Beat Drop,” by Anton Markus
* Original Intro by Scott Lamb
* Superbrat Outro by Superbrat

## Book Description

Jack invents “babies and gentleman” while Tanner walks away without his headphones to avoid the recap. Jack’s description is from the POV of Travis, the grossest catch. Tanner does a good job.

## Segments

###  Burn Of The Week

Jack’s burn is on himself because the 13-year-old is taller than adult Jack.

Tanner: “Who is this person?”

###  Strike Against the Patriarchy

Dawn and the struggle with Male Oppression. Travis' smarmy male oppression and Richard's authoritarian male oppression.

Also discussed: “manterruption” and “mansplaining.”

###  Tanner Googles

Tanner Googles “Matthew” and reads Matthew 4:1-11.

###  Wandering Frog People

Tanner bought a WFP and hid it in Jack’s bike gloves, so Jack is now losing, and everyone else in the world is winning.

The “packed my grandmother’s trunk” is a mechanic inside this game - a way to take the frog out of the game for an extended period of time.

## Theories

###  Doll Theory

Travis takes girls to the mall and dresses them up and accessorize them -- playing with them like giant living dolls. Dawn was beginning to feel like one of those doll heads that bob up and down in the back windows of cars.

A likely reading of this text: Travis is a progressive 17 year old meeting living dolls on their terrain.

###  Witchcraft

Dawn has clairvoyance.

Subplot of the book is literally a medieval morality play. James writes a play about a lost soul seeking its master (allegory).

## Jack's References

* Victor Hugo, Voltaire
* Jack declares the Biblical stuff “obvious” - he ties the book into Matthew 4:1-11
* *Pygmalion* and *My Fair Lady*
* The passion play *Everyman*
* *Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles*

## Tanner's References

* Kafka’s *Metamorphosis*
* Albert Camut
* *Pretty Woman*
* *The Shining*
* *Neighbors 2: Sorority Rising*
* *Bucky O'Hare*

## Notes

* Tanner is in Paris this week and staying on Rue Saint-Martin  with a view of Sacre Couer , near the Church of Saint-Laurent. Jack thinks Tanner’s French accent is painful to listen to.
* This is the first recording where the boys aren’t in the same room, but not the last.
* Tanner screencaps an image of Jack being forced to look at the book’s cover.
* Tanner makes fun of Jack’s pronunciation of “Camaro”.
* Tanner tries to convince Jack to speak in his native British accent. Jack does go into his accent because Jack is Secretly British.
* Dawn describes a stir-fried snow pea pizza and Tanner and Jack think this sounds great. Here’s a recipe for one.
* Reference to their appearance on What Should I Read Next with some baby photos.

## References & Links

1. ↑ https://twitter.com/BSCCPodcast/status/805141549835255812
2. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality\_play
3. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor\_Hugo
4. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaire
5. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmalion\_(mythology)#In\_Ovid
6. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My\_Fair\_Lady\_(film)
7. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everyman\_(play)
8. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage\_Mutant\_Ninja\_Turtles
9. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Metamorphosis
10. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert\_Camus
11. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty\_Woman
12. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Shining\_(novel)
13. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neighbors\_2%3A\_Sorority\_Rising
14. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucky\_O'Hare
15. ↑ https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rue\_Saint-Martin\_(Paris)
16. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacr%C3%A9-C%C5%93ur,\_Paris
17. ↑ https://www.deviantart.com/etr-wroclove/art/Paris-11-Sacre-Coeur-Night-329636187
18. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Laurent,\_Paris
19. ↑ https://twitter.com/BSCCPodcast/status/801504436719910914

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