Episode 28: The Dream Scientists

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## Episode Summary

What if dreamers could picture  a wav form and dream together and the knowledge that could be unlocked. If we could come together in the dream with some scientists we'll discover so much.

## Idea Details

* Idea: The Dream Scientists
* Creator of idea: Drew
* Purpose of idea: Josiah, I've been thinking a lot lately about the size of the universe, how small we are, insignificant - basically we're the garbage of the universe, stuck on a little planet, planet Earth, we've only been to the moon, we've set foot on the moon, that's it, which is not that far away from - uh, we haven't been to Mars yet, we haven't been outside of the solar system, we haven't been able to create warp ship. So I started to look into why we've been to space so many times but we haven't been able to really go anywhere. And I started to watch these physics lectures about time and space and why we can't travel faster than light, but we can't go into all those kind of um things: why we can't go faster than light, why we haven't discovered warp drive yet. These are the issues that I've been thinking about, Josiah. Why we haven't traveled to other worlds. I think about universe, I think about theoretical physics, I think about quantum, I think about Einstein, space. A lot of people look up to Isaac Einstein, but the truth is he was a monster. But also the monster is the nuclear bomb that he created. But first he had to become a monster and he did that - he invented a pill first, and when he took the pill he became like Mr. Hyde, and he would go into the basement and he would jack off, and then he'd work on his atomic ideas, and he handed that information to the bad guys. Basically all the thinking, all the physics lectures, all that stuff can be condensed into this one little video. I found a video that I thought you would understand. He says that the sun is moving at 180,000 - (Josiah: "That's how fast the sun rotates?") Yeah, which means that's how fast the light goes. So if we wanted to go faster than light, we would need too much energy - infinite energy, so we can't. So we can never go faster than light, Josiah. (Josiah: "Well then, what's the point? Let's end the episode. What's - what are you getting at? I mean, who cares - why are you presenting me with something that doesn't have a possible - ") Yeah, who gives a shit? Who gives a shit? Who gives a shit, Josiah? Who gives a shit about anything if we can't go to another planet, so fuck off! Well, Josiah, here's the solution. We may not be able to go there physically, but what if we were able to go there somehow spiritually. And what if we were able to go there - (Josiah: "To another planet, you mean. Or do you mean to the light - into the light.") Nope. To another planet. Without stepping off of the Earth. What if I told you that we could do that? (Josiah: "So kind of a - like a green screen or video game sorta thing?") No, Josiah, are you familiar with lucid dreaming? Just for as a basic summary, for people who may not be familiar, lucid dreaming is when you write like in your journal what happened in your dreams for 100 days in a row, and the 101st day, you will be granted the ability to make your own choices out of your dreams and to create your own worlds. (Josiah: "So you have to write it down for 100 days?") Yeah. (Josiah: "And then what do you do - where do you submit it?") You don't have to submit it or anything, you just put it into a drawer or something. (Josiah: "Does it have to be handwritten?") Yeah. (Josiah: "What if you don't dream that night?") I guess you just don't write anything. (Josiah: "Does that count as a day? Or does it have to be 100 - is it 100 nights or 100 dreams?") It's 100 nights. So if you sleep for 100 nights in a row and have no dreams, and you write down no dreams - or just like 'N/A, not applicable, didn't have a dream'. So, Josiah, what I've been doing lately, aside from doing my thinking, I've been lucid dreaming. (Josiah: "So you did the 100 day challenge?") Yeah, I've written down in my journal 100 days uh that I've had different dreams. (Josiah: "I'm still confused by this. Because you need to do it every- what if you accidentally forget to write down about your day- even you forget to write 'N/A'?") Well then you have to restart. (Josiah: "The 100 days restart? And also sometimes you don't remember you had a dream until you face a trigger halfway through the day, and then it comes back to you.") Then at that point you write it down, but it has to be within a day span. (Josiah: "What if you've already written 'N/A' and then the dream goblins have marked that down, and then you- can you change it? You just have to initial?") Yeah, it's fine. It's not a big deal. (Josiah: "So at what point did you get your chip, your 101?") Well, I've had it for quite a while. I've been mostly just like doing like real life *Super Mario* kinda thing, I've been jumping on turtles and getting coins and stuff. In my dream, well in my lucid dream, right? But lately, with my thoughts about the galaxy and about the universe, I've - (Josiah: "I guess the limitations of the lucid dream are what you can still conjure?") Right. (Josiah: "So yours is probably a bunch of nasty, disgusting porno stuff, and a river of shit that you swim in and drink some of it, and all the food is uh nasty colored?") No, Josiah, within my lucid dream, I can travel faster than light because I can spawn my own warp drive, I've created my own warp drive system, I can travel faster than light, and I've been going to different galaxies and different planets. The problem is I'm just an amateur. I don't know anything about this stuff. We need professionals out there! So what I want to do is have a team of dreamers. I don't understand the science like on these planets. I can't study these planets. I don't know anything about the atmosphere.
* Timetable: Drew already knew the Dream Scientists by the time of recording this episode and had already started his own forays into the dream world. It is implied that they will begin their work of studying the science of the dream world shortly.
* Idea details:
	+ After a human journals their dreams for 100 days in a row, they unlock the ability to lucid dream. If they don't have a dream one night, they can just write down 'N/A' or something like that. If they remember their dream later during the day, they can update the journal later as long as they do it sometime within that one day span.
	+ In a lucid dream, the dreamer is able to fully create the world they inhabit. They can, for instance, create a working warp drive to travel to other planets, even without understanding the science behind that technology.
	+ These lucid dreams can be studied to be better understood, without requiring the physical transportation of our human bodies to other worlds, for instance.
	+ Lucid dreams can be shared with other people by holding hands with interlocked fingers while facing one another and then looking into each other's eyes until you both fall asleep at the exact same time while maintaining eye contact. It is recommended to sync up your blinking and reverse-sync your breathing. This is all done while standing up so that you spawn standing up in the lucid dream. You should also do this while wearing your flight gear so you are prepared to travel to other worlds safely. You should also bring some other important gear like WD-40 and a thick stick and bento boxes. These all have to be on your person as you fall asleep. It helps to take melatonin.
	+ The Dream Scientists will be a group of highly skilled researchers who have gone through a training program like NASA's to get the correct dreamers. These training scenarios will involve them all dreaming together and passing and doing moral checks and seeing a priest to make sure they are all pure of heart.
	+ Not all of the Dream Scientists drink coffee.
	+ The dream program is classified and cannot be shared with people who are not involved.
	+ By traveling to other dream worlds and taking back rocks from those planets, for instance, you can take those back and study them and write down some data about it and then hope you remember it when you wake up.
	+ A pill will be invented, much like the one Einstein invented to turn himself into Mr. Hyde, which will allow you to remember your dreams when you wake up. This will ensure the Dream Scientists will remember their findings and data after waking up from their shared lucid dreams.

## Devil Play

* Josiah played devil by asking what they achieve by studying what Drew is suggesting, and also compared the entire experience to Freddy Krueger, where the kids dream together and then get chased by a burned pedophile man. Josiah put forward the idea that simply traveling to different fantastical dream worlds is enough of an idea on its own that they don't need to also study these dream worlds.
	+ Drew emphatically stated that he has a scientific mind and he craves knowledge.
* Josiah asked how they will even know if the dream worlds are real if they're in a dream. Like if one of the scientists is not pure of heart and then creates a joke planet with the three-boob lady from *Total Recall*.
	+ Drew expressed the need for a training program like NASA's to get the correct dreamers who have training scenarios where they all dream together and pass and do moral checks and see a priest to see if they're pure of heart.
* Josiah revealed his hurt feelings upon the realization that Drew's idea was not to have some best friend time with him, but was rather to do physics.
	+ Drew reiterated that that was the point of the idea all along, but made clear that they are still able to hang out together in the dream world while the Dream Scientists are off studying other dream worlds.
	+ Josiah shared that this felt like a repeat of how he and Drew and Nate Ruess used to talk all the time and be best friends together until Drew started playing *Rust*, at which point that was all he ever wanted to do or talk about, which makes Josiah think Drew is just going to do that with the dream scientists and leave Josiah behind again.
	+ Drew responded by accusing Josiah of going away on a trip for a week when they needed him.
	+ Josiah clarified that all he did was go online a little bit less for a week.
	+ Drew declared that he's allowed to have his own friends.
	+ Josiah agreed, but told Drew that if that's going to be the case then he shouldn't expect to stand up in close quarters with him and interlock fingers and go to sleep making eye contact and breathing in from his mouth.
	+ Drew repeated that he can have a friendship with Josiah while also having scientists doing dreaming for him. He asked what that even has to do with their friendship, since the reason he's implementing the Dream Scientists is because he doesn't understand it and wants to find people who do so they can make the world a better place.
	+ Josiah stated that he knows Drew at this point, and knows he will inevitably start to go get coffees for the Dream Scientists but not for Josiah while they're lucid dreaming together.
	+ Drew revealed that not all of the Dream Scientists even drink coffee.
	+ Josiah became irate at the realization that Drew has already started getting to know the Dream Scientists, and so agreed to simply back out of the shared dreams with Drew and let it be his thing instead. He also accused Drew of using the lucid dreams as a way to socially climb the ranks at NASA.
	+ Drew stated that if Josiah is not involved in the dream program, then it's classified information that can no longer be shared with him.

## Notable Events

* Josiah and Drew listened to Jock Jams.
* Josiah and Drew listened to electro swing.
* World Wide Wednesday
* Josiah and Drew read the news.
* Josiah and Drew discussed comedy.
* Josiah and Drew watched a video of a young Adolf Hitler talking about why we can't travel faster than light.
* Drew revealed that he completed the 100 day challenge to write down your dreams every day for 100 days, which is how humans are able to unlock the ability to lucid dream.
* Josiah and Drew watched a video about how to share dreams with other people.
* Drew revealed one of his biases is that he thinks Jupiter smells like pickles.
* Josiah revealed that Einstein had a secret son who was adopted by a different family and lives in Calgary, AB and is a Twitch streamer and podcaster and growing internet celeb and all-around great guy and needs to be killed. His identity is unknown.
* Josiah and Drew listened to *Why Do I Have Blue Eyes?*
* Josiah and Drew ended the episode by shared lucid dreaming together. Drew had complete control over this dream and made each of Josiah's fingers into a different style and size of penis.
	+ Note: It is unclear how this is possible since Josiah had not unlocked the ability to lucid dream yet.

## Notable Quotes

### Josiah

* "I think the word 'jock' in today's day and age should be considered a slur."
* "[In response to Drew referencing Bus] Don't do callbacks to other episodes, please."
* "Capicola Warning."
* "How are you doing, Drew? Don't segue. Drew, how are you doing? Have you had any good ideas for changing the world lately? Do not segue. Don't do it."
* "A friend is one thing, but you're always alone until you have a wife."
* "People wanna know about the ongoing soap - the heartbreaker, the uh Romeo himself - will he find his Juliet this week? Kinda some people watch *The Bachelor* on TV, and other people listen to *The Bachelor* on Capicola Warning, the internet's first podcast about how *The Sopranos* is Shakespeare."
* "You can't be letting people spit in your mouth right now, and I know that's very difficult for you, Drew. You can't be paying strangers to spit in your mouth."
* "He's thinking of the clitoris."
* "[In response to Drew saying we've been to the moon] Have we been to the moon?"
* "Do spaceships have high beams?"
* "So is that this week's idea is putting barn lights on a spaceship? Farm-to-table, kinda."
* "I think that you're doing a little bit of a - you're kind of being a little bit of a braggart about how deep your thoughts have been this week, because I think you feel threatened that I said that I was thinking about how *Sorpanos* was Shakespeare, and now you're telling me - So you just sit around - maybe I would sit around and think, 'Oh, I wonder what's on the old boob tube,' and then I would watch a show and just kind of be satisfied with that. You're telling me that you're just - you spend your time just sitting around thinking about universe."
* "Einstein's monster. The atomic bomb. Think about that."
* "[On the topic of Isaac Einstein being a monster] He was Frankenstein's monster!"
* "Let's be 'frank', Einstein's the monster."
* "[On the topic of why the universe will not grant Drew a wife] If you could shoot an apple on your wife's head and risk her life to save the lives of others, and you wouldn't do that, that's why. Also women secretly want to have they husbands shoot an arrow on the apple on their head."
* "Women pretend that they're not into that, but they secretly love that shit."
* "I already have a question, sorry. Traveling is something that a car does, or a animal, or a creature, or a human, it's a movement of one physical object from one place to another. And light is just something that you turn on or off with power or fire. So I don't understand, I mean, light doesn't really go anywhere. If anything, the speed of light should be zero."
* "All life on Earth comes from daughter, mother. Not son. If you argue with me, it's a sign that you hate women. All life on Earth comes from daughter. Mother Earth."
* "What is the speed of smell, Drew? Is that a thing?"
* "[On the topic of one's lucid dreams being constrained by what the dreamer is able to conjure with their own mind] So yours is probably a bunch of nasty, disgusting porno stuff, and a river of shit that you swim in and drink some of it, and all the food is uh nasty colored?"
* "[In response to Drew saying he has to bring his own shit into the dream world] What do you mean you bring your own shit? Do we shit also and piss in the dream world?"
* "You can have your own friends, but don't expect me to be breathing in your exhales every single night if that's gonna be the case. If you want me to stand up in close quarters with you and interlock fingers and go to sleep making eye contact and breathing in from your mouth, then I better not be finding out that there's a whole new moon colony."
* "[In response to Drew saying his friendship with Josiah is separate from his relationship with the Dream Scientists] Yeah right! I know what you're like, you're gonna say, 'Hey lemme hold the flashlight for you on the hood of the warp drive.' Next thing you know, I'm gonna find out oh there's six scientists and Drew and me in the dream world, and Drew went and got seven coffees for some reason and - 'Oh, oh, I didn't realize you wanted one,' is what you'll say to me in our lucid dream shared dreaming experience."
* "[In response to Drew revealing that he has already started getting to know the Dream Scientists] So you already know all these things about them. You've already been talking to them! Next thing I know, you're gonna have a podcast with them!"
* "If I could lucid dream, that's probably what I would do is I would start a podcast. Free Libsyn. No fees on the Libsyn."
* "[In response to Drew saying Josiah will never get to see the funny-looking aliens because he backed out of the dream program] Well if I want to see a funny-looking alien, I'll just do the next episode of Globe Hell Warning with the camera on - uh on you."
* "[In the dream world] What the fuck?? Why did you t- I didn't know you had control over me. Each of my fingers is a different sort of style and size of penis. Some of them are circumcized and some of them aren't and some of them are wrinkly old man peni and others are a healthy fresh - I think the middle finger on my left hand is a horse's cock."

### Drew

* "I've never really watched much sports."
* "I was a jock. I never watched much sports but I was great at them."
* "You know Luke Skywalker? In *A New Hope*, he turns off his guidance computer to shoot the missile, and I like to do that when I'm playing sports. I like to put earplugs in so I can't hear anything, I like to put on my sunglasses with shades on them so I can't see anything - callback to Bus."
* "[In response to Josiah's accusation that his thoughts were verbal diarrhea] It's not verbal diarrhea! You just need to follow! You just need to follow!"
* "[On the topic of how to give spaceships a light bright enough so you can see in space better] You'd have to just get a - I guess a really super bright light bulb. Like a lightbulb you would have to light up an entire barn. Does that make sense?"
* "[On the topic of what he sits around thinking about] Yeah I think about universe, I think about theoretical physics, I think about quantum, I think about Einstein, space."
* "A lot of people look up to Isaac Einstein, but the truth is he was a monster."
* "All energy comes from the sun. At some level. All life on Earth does."
* "Yeah, who gives a shit? Who gives a shit? Who gives a shit, Josiah? Who gives a shit about anything if we can't go to another planet, so fuck off!"
* "[In response to Josiah's questioning of why they need to study the dream worlds] Because I have a scientific mind, Josiah. I have a scientific mind and I crave knowledge. I need it. I need to travel to the other planets and I need teams of scientists to dream together so that they can go to the other planets in their dreams, and come back with information, and capture an alien, bring it back."
* "[On the topic of there being no fees to use Libsyn for podcast hosting in the dream world] Oh my God, that is a dream."
* "[In response to Josiah backing out of the dream program and its classified knowledge] You're never gonna see the funny-looking aliens. And they're cute too."
* "Well if you want to see something cute, you would look in the mirror."
* "[On the topic of Josiah being cute] That's science, baby. That's what the scientists told me. They came back and said, 'Oh my God, Josiah's such an angel.'"
* "Do you want to eat some cotton candy? I'm about to stuff you full."

## Trivia

* Drew revealed that he was a jock in this episode. In Bus, it was revealed that Drew's estranged son Barry is also a jock.
* This is the first even-numbered episode that involves an idea created by Drew. Prior to this episode, even-numbered episodes discussed ideas created by Josiah (other than Bus), while odd-numbered episodes discussed ideas created by Drew (other than Episode 1: World Wide Train, Episode 15: World Wide Beer with special guest Tom, and Episode 27: Why Do I Have Blue Eyes?).