Stalling for Time

## Episode Guide

**"Stalling for Time"** is the fifth episode of *Waco*. It aired on February 21, 2018.

## Overview

For a moment, it seems like the end of the stalemate is nearing when the FBI’s tactical division turns up the heat with psy-ops on David Koresh and the Branch Davidians.

## Recap

*This section is a detailed recap of this episode. **There are major spoilers.** Click to expand.*

**Day 9.** The FBI are waiting on the Branch Davidians and their next move. Only a “sign from God” is going to move David Koresh at this point, apparently. SAC Tony Prince is still running the operation on the outside, as Gary Noesner keeps talking with Steve Schneider about the situation. Yet negotiations aren’t great. The FBI’s shut off the power to the compound. Noesner explains the feds are worried about “another Jonestown,” which Steve considers totally out of the question. Schneider makes clear they’re not going to cooperate until the power’s turned back on.

On the FBI side, Gary is the only one thinking clearly. He knows the psychology already behind Koresh, and that pushing harder is only making him angry, backing him into a corner. The reluctance to do things the way the negotiator wants – or rather, needs – is part of what’s kept the FBI, and the ATF, at a disadvantage.

Inside, David Thibodeau can’t stop thinking of his mother Balenda. He’s not entirely bought in cult-wise. Although he’s most certainly bonded within the community. Most of all Michelle Jones, to whom David has become really close.

The lights inside Mt. Carmel come back on. Koresh wants to hear more from the media. Only on TV he’s hearing that the Branch Davidians who’ve left are under arrest, as well as the press calling them all bad parents, so on. David goes right to the phone and talks with Gary. He is not happy, and his state of mind is getting worse, for a number of reasons. And David gets especially angry with Noesner after the FBI agent says he doesn’t believe in God.

Gary pays less attention to the kids, who he understands aren’t abused – even if the young women in there are – and more to the parents. The FBI sends in a tape of the kids laughing and playing. One mom’s very upset. Kathy Schroeder calls out to the negotiators. She’s livid about her children being split up. This gives the negotiators a leg up to try getting mom to cave; she agrees on leaving the compound.

Day 12. **Balenda is listening to Ron Engelman on the radio blast the federal government. She’s soon approached by Bonnie Sue, Koresh’s mom. Bonnie offers Balenda a room instead of her staying in her car while in Waco. Balenda doesn’t want to accept it.**

Koresh is pissed that Kathy’s leaving, and he kicks another man out, too. Seems he doesn’t like when someone drinks. Of course, David doesn’t consider anything he does a sin, like taking on the burden of sex. He’s a hypocrite willing to do whatever serves him best. Meanwhile, he admits to Judy: “God‘s not speaking to me anymore.” He further admits to not knowing what to do next.

**Day 17** comes and the FBI drives a tank over a fence approaching the compound. The tank drives over trees, the grave Michelle’s father is buried in, and circles the place. While Gary is trying his best to prevent a massacre, on either end, his superiors are trying to force him into giving a deadline to the Davidians. He refuses. This prompts Prince to call Koresh directly and he gives the deadline/ultimatum himself.

Noesner finds the FBI is just breaking down. He’s watching Prince crack, hoping to use “PSYOPs” (psychological operations) to drive the Branch Davidians out of Mt. Carmel. This really worries the negotiator. It doesn’t bode well for any situation, let alone one in which they’re dealing with a mentally unstable religious nut who’s got an arsenal of guns at his disposal. Gary calls Koresh to level with him truthfully and try reasoning with him one last time before the FBI superiors commence they’re psychological warfare. Heading the charge on the PSYOPs is Mitch Decker. He has his crew turn on bright spotlights and blast horrific sounds of all kinds from speakers towards the compound. Then, the FBI stands watching from a distance, waiting to see what happens.

**Day 20.** The Davidians are in a rough state, many of them surely lacking sleep and trying to keep warm while the power’s off. Prince is at a press conference lying directly to the press about the psych warfare being used. Inside Mt. Carmel, Thibodeau goes to see Koresh and lays bare his fear of dying in that place. He doesn’t get much reassurance from his leader. He tries to get Michelle out of there, but Koresh lays down the law: “They are mine to protect. Not yours.” Again, the misogyny of this madman comes out best when Kitsch delivers the line lingering on those first few words, for just a brief second: "They are mine..."

Thibodeau – with help from Steve – records a tape for his mother explaining he’s not being held hostage in there. However, even though he seems determined to stay, it is quite obvious there’s trepidation in him; a whole lot of it.

Continually, Decker and the FBI flash lights and blast the speakers. On  **Day 25** of the siege, Noesner tries to make Decker see the humanity of the Davidians. First, he points out the uselessness of the FBI’s tactics. “History‘s not gonna be on your side,” Gary tells him. But his tenuous buddy is more concerned with perceived weakness on a national scale.

Alone in the office, Steve finds a cellphone. He calls out to his sister and tries to tell her that they’re not going to kill themselves. It’s a warning; in case they die and the narrative is pushed about suicide.

The Davidians get a generator going. Koresh chooses to play some music and combat one sonic force with another. The FBI hear the tunes from Koresh and the band rocking out through speakers at the window. A rock show for the apocalypse.

## Cast

Michael Shannon as Gary Noesner
Taylor Kitsch as David Koresh
Andrea Riseborough as Judy Schneider
Paul Sparks as Steve Schneider
Rory Culkin as David Thibodeau
Shea Whigham as Mitch Decker
Melissa Benoist as Rachel Koresh
Julia Garner as Michelle Jones
Glenn Fleshler as Tony Prince
Guest Starring
Camryn Manheim as Balenda Thibodeau
Eric Lange as Ron Engelman
Demore Barnes as Wayne Martin
Annika Marks as Kathy Schroeder
Michael Hyland as Walter Graves | Co-Starring
Blaire Chandler as Bonnie Sue Halderman
Tait Fletcher as Brad Branch
J.B. Tuttle as Davey Jones
Vivien Lyra Blair as Serenity
Rich Ting as Sniper
Duncan Joiner as Cyrus
Lora Martinez-Cunningham as Reporter
Glenn Thayer as Reporter

## Trivia

* This episode chronicles day 9 to 39 of the siege.