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Immediacy

-Creator is immediately about all creatings, while Theist is immediately only about the A-Ideal. Both are about everything, but differ in what their immediate thing is.

-The A-Ideal, as per Aim of the A-Ideal, is only all about Itself. The Object of Itself.

-Creator is about all possible creatings, which of course means other objects!

-Theist is only about the Object of the A-Ideal.

-Ergo, God wants us to be Theist, not Creator, because that is His nature.

## Actions of the A-Ideal Too?:

-All of Existence can be divided into two categories; the A-Ideal and the actions of the A-Ideal.

>Even actions taken by other things only happen because the A-Ideal allows it (assuming A-Ideal has sentience). Ergo, the A-Ideal is still responsible for all things.

-'Actions' taken by the A-Ideal are not of the A-Ideal itself, for that would imply change, and the A-Ideal does not change.

-There is always something in the A-Ideal that makes It all sufficient. If you were theoretically able to hold all of existence in your hand and separated A-Ideal Object from it and put it in your other hand, then threw away everything else, you would have lost nothing. Somehow, the A-Ideal would be able to compensate, for It is all things possible combined together.

## Mental Immediacy:

-As Creator you can mentally wander from God and do things without consciously being immediately about God. This is just wrong, and it is obvious to the mind that it is wrong.

-Theist forces everything to be about God, in every way possible, especially mentally!
Love To Disregard Ratio

-The problem with Theist is that it causes you to ignore everything other than A-Ideal, all these finite created things. You can see this in Catholicism and the other religions tinged by Theistic thinking.

-If you don't love something, you tend to disregard it. God wants us to be Creator and not Theist because He wants us active and involved in our world!

-Christainity has wasted so much of its energy on weirdo monastic practices that distracted from what really had to be done. St. Augustine said the same thing, as have others.

-There is a direct ratio between how much you 'love' a thing and how much you care about it.

## Letting The World Rot:

-When you are Theist, you tend to let the world keep going as it is, which is to say, let destructive forces go unopposed.

-You don't show an interest in politics, so you let your country slip away. You also disregard religious identity or other tribal stuff.

-You also tend to let your anger of other people drive you away. All human beings do this. Remember how you put up with them anyway, just to stay Creator? You don't have that as Theist!

## Love Everything, Not Just God:

-Contrary to the fears of Theist, loving everything does not make you forget God, since God is Creating Itself. Instead, loving only God makes you disregard everyone else except Him.
Creator Can't Ignore Other Creatings!

-When you are Creator TTB, you find it difficult to ignore or distance yourself from other creatings in any real effort to be only about the Object of the A-Ideal!

-This is a clear violation of Aim of the A-Ideal!

-This is especially the case when its God versus any other major 'thing' associated with creating. LIke GAia or something?

-As per Aim of the A-Ideal, you have to be willing to jettison all other creatings and stand for the Object of the A-Ideal alone. But Creator TTB doesn't let you do that!
Is Creator Truly About All Creatings?

-It would appear this way at first but it is wrong.

-Creator only requires the A-Ideal, because the A-Ideal is a single act of creating which is the Fullness of Creating. As long as Creator TTB has that Object, It is wholly complete.

-Remember that A-Ideal is Creator.

-The argument of Difference of Definitions or Number of Objects Needed is wrong, because both Theist and Creator need just one Object, the exact same Object which is the A-Ideal!
Difference Of Definitions?

-The Aim of the A-Ideal makes it clear that the simple definition or nature of the Object of the A-Ideal is for It to simply be about Itself.

-However, that is not the definition of Creator. It is the definition of Theist. But the definition of Creator, even if it is to be about Existence (which is A-Ideal), Creator is about A-Ideal in terms of the concept of creator, which is added material.

## Creator Is Inherently About Other Objects:

-Theist is directly and only about the A-Ideal. While Creator may be about Existence/A-Ideal, it is still also about other objects too, both those within or potentially without A-Ideal, because Creator is about the action of creating and other objects create too. Theist doesn't do that at all. Hence, it is more in line with Aim of the A-Ideal.

-While all things are of God, Theist is principally only about the Object of the A-Ideal. Creator is about all objects that do creating. This is inherent within the concept of Creator to be about all creatings.

## Notes:

-Creator is just about the creation and sustainment of Existence.

-But the A-Ideal is all things at once, so Theist is the creation, sustainment, and destruction of Existence. Probably an infinite amount of other things as well!

-Creator is about Existence, but it is about Existence through the general concept of creating. Which involves all things Creator, including all other creatings.

>Creator TTB is about all Creatings. This is not the nature of the A-Ideal! Even if Creator TTB is also about Existence which is the A-Ideal!

-Theist is about A-Ideal just by Itself!

-While A-Ideal and Existence are really two different words for the same thing, Creator has extra baggage which the A-Ideal doesn't have. The A-Ideal is not principally about all creating, in fact, It is principally opposed to any creatings beyond that of the A-Ideal's Self-Creation!
Different Definitions

-The Aim of the A-Ideal shows that the nature of A-Ideal is to be about the Object of Itself.

-Creator is being about any and objects of creating. It is bound by etymology.

>This includes A-Infinity in which there is definitely objects which are incompatible with A-Ideal and yet are Creator TTB!

>While Creator is about Existence, it is also about A-Infinity at large which goes beyond 'existence.'

>Creator TTB is about all creatings, because that which is more or less 'creator' shares in its nature. So that TTB is about that thing. But the A-Ideal is principally only about one creating!

**>Creator shares the nature of A-Ideal, but is too broad!**

-These are two different definitions!
Does Creator Distract From God?

-This is a counter-argument to Creator that claims that, by being about other objects, Creator TTB actually causes you to become distrated. After all, isn't the A-Ideal only about the Object of Itself!?

-First off, the A-Ideal alone is the Fullness of all Creating.

-Second, if that were true, why did God create us and put us in a reality where He is existentially distant from us?

-While we can become distracted by them, the same could be said for Theism, which offers multiple ideas of God. Not all of them can be accurate?

-The real argument (behind this counter-argument) is that even having any other object in the scope of your TTB beyond that of A-Ideal will lead to distraction. But this ignores the fact that Creator is about Existence as a whole, and associating with any specific thing (ie, an object) is merely a case study in the grand scheme of things.

>While Creator has other objects in Its category, It has an in-built sense that these things are mere case-studies, and never the ends in and of themselves!
Being Only About A-Ideal Is Being About All Things Anyway

-This is the great paradox of the Creator/Theist question.

-Technically, the Object you should base your life on should be the A-Ideal alone.

-However, the A-Idea, as per Impartiality, is about all things equally. So you also need to be about everything else, ostensibly 'through' the A-Ideal (ie, being Creator).
God Specifically

-No matter how hard you try, you will never be able to make Creator fit only God. The knowledge of God brings with it a desire to specialize in Him alone, and the only concept for that is Theist, which is the very idea of being only about God. God Alone.

-Even if you can get Creator to be immediately about God, there is still the emotional feeling that creating is tied to other creators out there. It just doesn't work.
Metaphysics Of Deism

Some Deists know there is a conscious Higher Intelligence in the Universe that we commonly call the Over-Mind or God. We are surrounded by this Universal Creative Mind, which always receives the impress of our thoughts and acts upon them by reflecting back to us the conditions which our individual minds dwell on.

Deists believe that we are all individualized expressions of this ever-evolving Over-Mind. It is our belief that God is NOT a separate entity from His Creation; rather our Creator is an Intelligence that is present in everything in the Cosmos - everything both seen and unseen in this and all other dimensions of the Universe. The Mind of God is the causative power of the Universe.

In the Infinite Nature of God, good is eternally available, ready to flow into human experience. Through some cosmic process, this flow of good is activated and/or increased by human belief and acceptance. One of the best ways to activate this essential belief in God's goodness in our Life experience is a scientific from of prayer, which is usually called "Affirmative prayer." Another method that enables us to experience conscious communication with God is meditation. Deists believe that God can be personal - and is to all who turn within and feel the indwelling presence of Spirit.

Deists know that the Universe is reciprocal. For every visible form, there is an invisible counterpart. The Law of Cause and Effect is always working. We make our "Heaven" or "Hell" experiences with the choices we make and the thoughts we embrace.

Deists know that immortality is a universal principle. We believe in the continuity and immortality of the ever-expanding individual soul. God knows only Life, its eternal continuity, evolution, and expansion.

Deists know that Life evolves in this dimension, as well as all the others. The soul lives on after its transition to "the other side" upon the physical death of the body.
Imperfect Names

-The mechanism behind all of Theist is the Names.

-There must be imperfect Names which actually obscure God's real nature or cause you to act counter to His intentions. Otherwise, there is something that doesn't exist!

-Why take the risk, just be Creator!

-How are you going to judge Names and recognize the Imperfect Names apart from the others if you don't have a True Name by which to standardize them!?

-Knowledge of the Imperfect Names will always bring some level of uncertainty, even emotionally. You must be Creator to be sure you are following God.
How Does God Want Us To Relate To Things?

### General Premise:

-The Question of Objects or Immediacy is a misleading premise. Both Theist and Creator are really about all objects, although both claim to put the A-Ideal at the head of importance.

>Theist claims that A-Ideal relates to all other objects as per Aim of the A-Ideal, which is presumably Theist.

-The real question, then, is how does God relate to all things? How does He want us to relate to Him and all other things?

-Theist would have us relate to things in a general sense, open to any idea or interpretation of God, putting the Object of the A-Ideal as the primary thing for us to found our identity and relations on.

-Creator would have us relate to things with the idea that God's only true nature is Creator, the general idea of positivity and potential for existence. God is both object and action and that action is Creating.
Catholicism Proves Theist Wrong

-The problem with Theism is that it looks great on paper until you put it into practice. Than you run into some age-old problems such as found in the older Abrahamic religions: issues like unrealistic celibacy, denial of material goods, vows of poverty, anchorites, etc.

-All the unhealthy stuff that led to the flagellation of the masses in later centuries all stemmed from the mistaken belief that God was wholly removed from all things and that we shoudl seek only the Object of God alone apart from all things.

-In reality, everything is mixed. While the A-Ideal is distinct, It is still immediately related to all things. So to be all about It, you must be about all things as well!
Infinite Self-Sufficiency

-Infinite Self-Sufficiency or ISS is the principle that the A-Ideal requires only the Object of Itself. At all. In any way possible.

## Doesn't This Contradict Creator TTB?:

-No, because even though the Creator-Object is only all about Itself (otherwise, It would not be infinitely self-sufficient), that does not convey what exactly the Object is.

>Anotherword, the Object needs only Itself, but that still begs the question of what the nature of the Object is?

## Even If Everything Else Didn't Exist...:

-Even if everything else didn't exist, you would still need to be Creator as your TTB.

-Within the Creator-Object is the Sum Of All Addition as the Internal-Act. This is the only 'part' that the Creator-Object has, and It is all that the Object does. Thus, to follow It, to emulate It, you would have to be Creator (all about Addition).

-Even without everything else, you would still need to be Creator in order to acquire the Mind Of God (to know God, know His value, what He wants you do generally, what He exists as, etc.).

## Is The ISS The Nature Of A-Ideal?:

-The Creator-Object could exist in an infinite number variations of Itself. So, no, the ISS would apply to all of them, but the true A-Ideal exists as the Sum Of All Addition.

-There are countless 'flawed' or 'failed' versions of A-Ideal within A-Infinity and they too would, presumably, have ISS as well.

-The point is that ISS is only a facet of the A-Ideal, not the entirety like the Internal-Action is. ISS states that the A-ideal only needs the Object of Itself but It does not explain why precisely. -
Impartiality

## Definition:

Impartiality is the principle that the A-Ideal, in order to have no parts, must have the same stance towards all things. Therefore, It is not about just the Object of Itself but instead is about all things, all objects!

## Notes:

-If the A-Ideal is only all about Itself, and not other objects, that represents two different things within the A-Ideal.

-And these two stances would exist within the A-Ideal regardless of whether the A-Ideal alone existed or if other objects were actualized as well. Thus proving they are within the A-Ideal Itself.

## Couldn't God Just Create In Such A Way To Sidestep This?:

-He can do anything. But why would He? It would violate His perfectness to have to cheat.

-If the A-Ideal is truly perfect as is, than every object is important. Why would God create in a way to violate His own nature?

>If the A-Ideal is truly Impartial, and God is Almighty, He has absolutely no reason to create in such a way to somehow sidestep Impartiality. He has nothing to fear! And it would violate His one and only nature! If God is Impartial than He will create impartially.

## What About the Aim of the A-Ideal?:

-The Aim of the A-Ideal is really just a rhetorical way to stating how the A-Ideal needs only Itself. Which is true.

-But it is also within the nature of A-Ideal to be about all things, and if the A-Ideal creates or allows creation, than the A-Ideal is also about that new stuff as well.

-The A-Ideal does not change and so remains all-sufficient by Itself, but It's scope is all things, including that which is beyond Itself.

-Impartiality doesn't make other things existentially necessary. It just means that, whatever does exist, God's scope encompasses all of that.

## Both Whole & Parts:

-If God is truly about all objects, that includes the object alone and by itself, devoid of external stuff. Ergo, this would kill Theist which relies on a constant connection to wider Existence.

-If God is not able to be about parts or objects as stand-alone things, than there is something He is not! Especially in accordance with Impartiality!
Fire Of God

-The passion one holds for the Divine seems to ebb and flow. Sometimes it burns brightly, others it burns dimly. We must learn to feed this proverbial fire by returning our mind's eye to that which is immediately about God.

-Passion for the A-Ideal has been shown always to outstrip what you could feel for anything else. Provided the Fire of God within your mind is bright.
Creator Sometimes Feels Distant To God

-This is an illusion because God is existentially distant to us.

-In reality, you cannot be Creator without being about all things. And with God the True Creator, He is the pinnacle of Creator TTB.

-The reason we often feel closer to mortal objects of Creator rather than God is because they appear 'closer' to us and more real than God does.

\*It is not possible for Creator to not be about God, for Creator is ultimately about all things. Any attempt to be Creator TTB and be only about a portion of existence feels weird.
Lesser Creatings

-'Creatings' or acts of creation of objects or things apart from the Object of the A-ideal.

-Does the A-Ideal involved them, or is the A-Ideal only about Itself?

-Should we be Theist and be only about the Object of the A-Ideal? Or Creator in general?

-The question is null and void.

>A-Ideal is the Fullness of Creating, for It is all things already. To create Itself, A-Ideal must create all things already within Itself. Thus, to be A-Ideal is, somehow, to be all things already.

>Ergo, to be a follower of A-Ideal, to copy Its nature, is to be Creator, the Fullness of being Creator. Anything less is something less than the scope of the nature of A-Ideal!

>Even if only you and A-Ideal existed, alone together infinitely; you would still have to have Creator as your TTB simply because that is the whole nature of the A-Ideal.

>Whatever the nature of the A-Ideal is, It is the Fullness of that!

>Because every version of Creator or creating is present within A-Ideal, you must seek to study, associate with and master all of these infinite number of forms of Creating in order to copy the nature of A-Ideal!
FBE Is The Anchor

-The FBE IS THE ANCHOR!!!

>Reality can be edited, concepts can change, only the FBE matters!

>Without the FBE, there can be no hope of anything, anything at all. Concepts could be ever changing and existence could be fleeting and inpermanent.

>Concentrating on FBE leads instantly to the need for the A-Ideal to understand it, which inevitably leads to Transference of Attributes.
Definition Of Creator

-The Definition of Creator is to be about Existence.

>The A-Ideal is Existence because it is the only thing that is necessary.

\*It is true that Creator is functionally about all creatings, but Creator eventually leads to the idea of A-Ideal and thus the realization that only A-Ideal is actual Existence. Existence with a capital E.

\*\*Also see Transference of Attributes!

-In a strict sense, the term 'create' or 'Creator' implies manufacturing, adding, bringing forth something either from nothing or from previous materials.

-However, there is a wider connotation of Existence within Creator, that It also implies being about all of Existence positively, to sustain and protect Existence. And by Existence, technically, we mean Absolute-Infinity.

## Creator & Potential:

-Creator is best thought of when it is conjoined with the concept of Potential.

-Creator is the Actualization of Potential, and because Potential is all possible things, therefore there is nothing outside of Creator.

>Destruction is simply the removal of things actualized from potential.

>There is no single system of Creator, not even that of Addition.

>All parts of Potential are Creator by Definition. Pure Potential is all of them Actualized, although in our finite reality only some parts of Potential are Actualized.

>There can be nothing outside of Creator/Potential because all things already exist within It.
Concept Of External Creating

-While the A-Ideal needs only Itself to be Perfection, somewhere within the Object must be the idea(s) behind all creatings or external creatings. Thus, the Creator-Object is truly about all things! Because if It isn't, there is a section of Its nature that It is denying!

>This must be Actualized along with everything else, or the A-Ideal has parts!

>The explanation for how this is done is beyond human ken. In fact, the answer is probably infinite in scope, to be exact.
Agnostic Deist

Agnostic Deists are Agnostics who don't see a reason to believe in a Creator from the design of nature. However, usually for reasons of morality or cultural affiliation, they have decided to believe in God anyway. Agnostic Deists do not use natural theology as most other Deists do and may in fact be quite critical of claims of objective truth.
Mental-Immediacy

-As per Aim of the A-Ideal, the substance and therefore TTB of the A-Ideal can do nothing without being immediately about the Object of the A-Ideal.

>This includes mentally doing stuff.

-Creator can do stuff and mentally have God at a distance. Personal experience.

>It can also do stuff with the concept of 'existence' in the background, or whoever Creator wants to envision God. You can also be Creator and not believe in a unified or infinite existence anyway!

-Theist can't! The Names make God immediate in everything.

-Ergo, Creator as a TTB can be shown to lack a feature of the substance of the A-Ideal. Therefore, it cannot be the TTB of the A-Ideal!
Active & Passive Creating

-While the A-Ideal needs only Itself, the A-Ideal is still responsible for all acts of creating.

-Whether the A-Ideal actively creates Itself, or allows others to create (passive), the A-ideal is still responsible for all acts of creating.

-Lesser creatings are by definition related to the A-Ideal and thus are 'a part of It' in an external way. To be about the A-Ideal, you must be about all creatings, since they are related to It by wont of sharing in Its nature.

-So, combined with Its own nature as the Fullness of Creating, the A-Ideal is nothing but creating and is all about all creating.
Actualization & No Parts

-The A-Ideal has No Parts.

-The A-Ideal is Actualization Itself. All It does internally is Actualize all of Potential.

-If the A-Ideal's TTB is anything other than Creator, than the A-Ideal has parts!

>The Object and the Action of the A-Ideal are the same thing.

\*Remember, the A-Ideal is the only Pure Creator. All other creators are copies of HIm.

## Line of Reasoning:

1.) The A-Ideal is nothing but Actualization, the only Pure Creator.

2.) What is the TTB of the A-Ideal? Actualization, because that is all that It does.

3.) What TTB would the A-Ideal want for others? The same, otherwise It has parts!

4.) Isn't the A-Ideal only about Its own Actualization? No! The A-Ideal is about all things, for all things are related to It. It relates as Itself, which is Actualization!
Creator Needs Only One Object

-Creator needs only the Object of the A-Ideal, for A-Ideal is infinitely sufficient in all ways.

-Also, Creator TTB is about all of Existence as It is, which is A-Infinit with A-Ideal at the head of all things. Therefore, Creator is still about A-Ideal.

>Remember, if you try to be Creator and follow only a few things, it doesn't feel right. Creator is about all of Existence (A-Infinity/A-Ideal).

>A-Ideal is about all things as well.

-Does Creator need to be about all objects of creating? In the abstract, yes, but A-Ideal can cancel any of that out should It so choose too.

>There is an assumptiong that A-Ideal chooses not to, since an Infinite-Being would be about all things without risk to Itself in any way. So why not be about all things?

-Creator tends towards full Actualization, since Creator is Actualization. And the ultimate Actualization, the end-goal of all actualizing, is the A-Ideal Itself. There can be only one. Hence, Creator TTB really is just about the A-Ideal.
Case-Studies

-Creator does indeed have other objects in its category, however, it is inherently understood that these are mere 'case-studies' of Creator and not to be ends in and of themselves.

-We know this because Creator feels weird when you try to be only about some things rather than all of Existence as a whole.

-The idea that you can love some objects in Creator before God is rendered stupid when you remember that God is Existence, the end-goal of all of Creator, for which all acts of creating a striving towards (Full Actualization).

-God is Existence which is creating. To love Creator therefore must entail accepting God. Personal feelings come and go, but this existential bond remains.
Most Things Not Immediately About God

-Time and again, this is what ruins Theist!

-Life is too hectic to have to stop so regularly and reconnect with Theist. Creator, meanwhile, connects automatically!

-Mentally speaking, most things do not invoke God.

-Everything is immediately about Creator, one way or another, but most things are not immediately about God.

-If God wanted Theist and not Creator, why would He have set things up like this!?
How To Determine The TTB (Creator)

## The Internal-Action:

-There are no objects, not really, the pluralism of objects is an illusion and there is only God/Existence.

>The only real question is whether or not you are following God as He actually is or not! (per Specific-Worship).

## Notes:

-The TTB of the A-Ideal is whatever conveys Its actual nature.

**>Why this method for determining the TTB and not another? Because the nature of the A-Ideal is whatever It is about, and It can be about nothing else, otherwise It has parts! If It doesn't want the determination method that leads to Its nature, than the A-Ideal has parts!**

>This is because the nature of the A-Ideal is whatever the A-Ideal is all about, and would want us to be about as well, otherwise the A-Ideal has parts!

 >This is because the A-Ideal has No Parts and so when you find Its only Part, than you have all of the A-Ideal, including Its parameters, Its relation to the rest of A-Infinity, etc.

\*The A-Ideal would want this method over any other to find the TTB because the A-Ideal wants Specific Worship.

## How It Relates To Itself:

-The nature of the A-ideal is not determined in any way by the A-Ideal's relationship with anything but Itself. Otherwise, the A-Ideal is somehow not sufficient.

-In relation to Itself, the A-Ideal is simply Creator.

>It does and is an infinite amount of things, at once, as one, within Itself. The one and only action the A-Ideal has to be all forms of creating as one infinite act of Self-Creation. Creating Itself is all the A-Ideal does.

**-Because the A-Ideal relates to Itself as The Creator and has No Parts, therefore, Creator is both Its nature and Its only TTB!**

-To try and specify what 'kind' of Creator that the A-Ideal is would violate ISS. The A-Ideal is simply Creator, to qualify what It creates or why would only work by relating It to outside objects, thus violating ISS.

-Since the A-Ideal contains within Itself always something that can nullify the important or consideration of all else, therefore, by relating to Itself simply as Creator, the A-Ideal is the only real Creator. The only Pure Creator of note. All else doesn't count, otherwise the A-Ideal is insufficient.

>Ie, if the A-Ideal is not The Creator, the only Pure Creator, than there is something that It is not!

-The descriptor of 'Creator' is the idea for the actual action taken by the A-Ideal in somehow making Itself into Existence. Therefore, it is the actual descriptor of the A-Ideal.

>Ie, Actualization is Creation. They are the same.

## Notes:

-The TTB is the nature of the A-Ideal, for the nature of the A-Ideal is Its Action. And the A-Ideal's Action is also It's only Part, which is Its parameters.

-Ergo, find the nature, and you also have the (only) Part that the A-Ideal is.
Fullness Of Creating

-The A-Ideal has No Parts and we know It has at least the Core Concept (Sum Of All Addition) thus making all of Its 'parts' be Creator.

-Whatever the A-Ideal is, It is all of that, so It is the Fullness of Creating.

   >The A-Ideal cannot be both a specific type of Creator and yet be the Fullness of Creating.  Either the A-Ideal is about all creatings or just Its Self-Creation.

-Self-Creation alone cannot fulfill Fullness Of Creating.

   >All types of creating have already occured within the Self-Creation.  Therefore, A-ideal is about any type of Creating that occurs.

   >Remember, the A-ideal is about the Object of Itself both as a whole and in Its various spectrums (Color White anology).

   >Any creating is a type of creating that has already occurred in Self-Creation.

-Because the A-Ideal exists as all types of creating combined, any act of creating is therefore related to It.  And the A-Ideal is all about Itself and thus anything related to Itself.

   >Besides, studying and mastering any type of creating is thus an act of learning another 'part' of the infinite bandwith that is Self-Creation/A-Ideal!

   \*The Fullness of Creating is Existence, which is proof that the TTB of Existence is Creator.
Etymology

-Creator is etymologically bound to be **principally** about all acts of creating, which in its broadest sense is all objects!

>If you are Creator TTB and you ignore some 'creator stuff' then you feel weird about it!

-A-Ideal is only about the Object of Itself principally as per Aim of the A-Ideal.

-Thus, the two have different natures!

\*While the A-Ideal's scope is all things, It's nature is principally only about It's own Object.
Determined By Definition

-How do I know there isn't something else in existence better? Because of Definitions. The A-Ideal is only one meta-Substance and that is Existence (again, by definition) regardless of Its attributes. Creator is by definition to be about Existence. Ergo, Creator must be the TTB of A-Ideal. By definition.

-The terms "Existence" and "Creator" are natural ones and denote these universal and recognizable concepts whch correspond with God's being. Hence, the term Creator is totally appropriate to use in describing a natural way of following God. To be about Existence (God) is to be creative or Creator.
Act Of Creating Owns All Concepts?

>Maybe, maybe not. Creator can change itself, but if it changes itself to posses all things, will it still be Creator afterwards?

>Also, there has to at least be the possibility that there is something(s) out there that Creator can't somehow posses even if it can create anything and everything. Otherwise there is something that doesn't exist.

>Creator could just be one of many equals somehow, all of which 'own' the rest of A-Infinity by want of their own special process or power.

>Only the A-Ideal has full Incorporation, possessing all things!
Da'Trick?

-If the A-Ideal can be anything and do anything, than can't It exist as something with parts but break the laws of reality so that It counts as having no parts? Wouldn't this render all logic in Infinity Theology pointless?

>No, because Infinity Theology, like Platonism, takes place in the world of the ideals where things are obvious to the mind. The point is to figure out the world of the ideals and then see if that translates into our Actualized world.

-Besides, the A-Ideal is capable of anything, including always knowing how to exist as one thing which can do and be all things. Ergo, why would It ever exist as parts but make Itself count as parts?
Does God's Personality Add Doubt?

-If God has sentience and personality, or something akin to that, than doesn't that mean that God/Theist can never truly provide Certainty since God could always have chosen something different than your TTB? Doesn't the principle at least still apply no matter what?

-No, because it must be possible for something, God or otherwise, to be the 'sentience' to all Creating out there. This thing could also make choices apart from your TTB. And it must exist at least in potential, so there's that!
Complete-Knowing Refuted

-There is only one true source for Certainty and that is an Actualized Benevolent Supreme. Anything else and we can't be sure what is out there, what's going on and will things last.

-The idea of Complete-Knowing is a trap; without a benevolent Supreme, how can you know that creating actually exists at all outside your head? Maybe you're being messed with by a cosmic horror or something else is going on entirely?

-Which of course, leads the position of The Anchor from Certainty back over to Divine-Will.
Being About Object & Actualization Are Same Thing

-Because the Object of the A-Ideal is nothing but Actualization, being only about the Object still means only being about all Actualization.

-Because if you are only about the Object, which is nothing but Actualization, than you relate to all other things as that. Which translates into relating as Creator.
A-Ideal Exists In Potential, Therefore Is Only Actualization

-The A-Ideal definitely exists in Potential. We know this because everything has to exist in Potential or there is something that doesn't exist.

-The A-Ideal actualizes Itself from Potential. Otherwise, there is something the A-Ideal is not.

>Because the A-Ideal in Potential is already all things, by Actualizing that, the A-Ideal has nothing left to do for it is already done. This one act alone is infinitely sufficient for all things.

>There is no 'need' or 'issue' or 'lacking' of any kind for the A-Ideal in Potential, and there is no problem that actualizing it would not cure. Otherwise, there is something that doesn't exist (a cure within the A-Ideal in Potential).

-Because the A-Ideal has No Parts, this is the only thing It does.

-There is undoubtedly more to Actualization than what we humans can see mentally, but the A-Ideal must have No Parts, so Creator is still all the A-Ideal is or does.
Create Anything

-The concepts of Creator and Supreme can be the same thing.

-It is inherent within the concept of Creator that it has the power to create anything, to affect any kind of change on or within A-Infinity.

-Therefore, Creator can be or do anything. Which is to say that Creator is Almighty. Which is the Supreme.

\*Anything that has the power to make any and all possible changes to Existence/A-Infinity is therefore Creator and is also therefore Almighty/Supreme.
End-Goal Refuted

-You cannot use regular rules of logic when trying to figure out what the inner-nature is of the A-Ideal. Because you first have to determine if they are truly universal laws or merely ones confined to your own section of infinite existence.

-End-Goal argues that the A-Ideal is composed of an infinite number of things which add their substances up to equal the nature of the A-Ideal and that this constitutes the Internal-Action. But there is no way to prove that this is a universal law. Things adding up may be entirely constrained to our own section of reality. All our conceptions of math might be?

-Universal laws of reality work by anticipating the unknown, much as the A-Ideal claims to be the sum of all, anything unknown would instantly be added to it. Creator does not have this.

-As such, we cannot know the inner nature of the A-Ideal because our tools to acquire it cannot all be shown to be definitively universal.

-So what if A-Ideal is composed of addition? That could just be one system of infinity out of many!

-End-Goal Refuted

>Addition may be inevitable, it may also be one of an infinite number of systems!

>What if Creaotr concept is too broad and goes beyond the nature of A-Ideal!? What then!?

\*See Regional Vs Universal Principles.
List Of Attributes

-All concept/natures/substances are effectively long lists of attributes.

-As per Transference of Attributes, any two or more things which have identical lists are therefore of the same substance.

-However, this also means that the only way we can know WITH CERTAINTY that any given TTB/concept is the nature of the A-Ideal is if we have the exact List of all of its attributes. And the A-Ideal's too to compare it too!

-Since this can't be done, we will wind up wasting time desperately trying to search the unsearchable. Which is exactly what Creator TTB has been like!

-The history of Shifting is a history of me trying to see if you can prove that a particular concept known to us is the nature of the A-Ideal. But I could never land on a reliable method for proving or disproving it, which is why List Of Attributes is such a game changer now.

-How can you follow Creator when you don't even know the full list of its attributes!?

\*Also see Mighty Lead Pencil..

### But What About Defining Things?:

-If you don't know all the Attributes of a concept, you will never be certain that it is the substance of Divinity.

-Just because you define a recognizable phenomena in metaphysics does not gaurantee that all of that phenomena is what you think it is. Besides, you will don't know that it might have an attribute which totally ruins your perception/conception of it!

-To put this principle practically: how can you prove that Creator doesn't have at least one attribute, even one you don't know of, that will totally ruin your perception of it and guarantee that it is not the substance of the A-Ideal? You can't!

-Redefining a thing doesn't change the fact that you can't know all of its Attributes, or that of the A-Ideal!

-Just because you define Creator a certain way won't change the fact that down the road you will discover a universal Attribute to all creating, and let's be honest, the general defintion of Creating is fixed, that disqualifies it.

-Just because you define Creator as being about all Existence doesn't mean there aren't other equal processes or 'things' in A-Infinity which aren't also about Existence positively too. You can't prove that Creator TTB doesn't have peers. -

## Other TTBs Can Be Defined To Be About 'Existence' Too:

-Concepts like Law or Order also concern all of Existence and can be said to be 'all about existence' within their own respective paradigms as well. Same as Creator.

-After all, Order is all about the continuation of Existence, so why can't it have the Attribute List of Existence as well?

## Why Creator Cannot Have The Attribute List Of A-Ideal:

-For one, we don't know if the order of a list is important?

-Two, Creator TTB is etymologically tied to all creatings, not just A-Ideal.

## Why The Full Lists Are Necessary:

-No matter how hard you try, what tricks you try, how well you think you define... without the full lists in hand, you will never have true certainty that your TTB is the substance of Divinity.

-Without the full lists, you can never be sure that something out there \*somehow\* can turn the whole thing upside down.
Doesn't God Have The Potential For Parts?

-Ind. shows that there is a Supreme-Being that is Existence, and that He can do (and be) whatever He wants. But why would He choose to be anything other than perfection, which would imply being only one part as per A-Ideal?

-He certainly wouldn't connect or create anything attached to Him that would compromise that!
Complete-Knowing

-Real, practical, lasting Certainty only comes from completely knowing the thing you are dedicating your life to.

-You don't know everything about the A-Ideal. The A-Ideal is all Attributes and you can't possibly know all of them. You can't know all about the FBE, Actualized-God, for obvious reasons. And you definitely can't know Divine-Will, seeing as how you can't know everything about the A-Ideal.

-There is always a little more and therefore room for doubt, room for something you missed which will somehow change everything.

-Only the Concept of Creator can fit entirely in your head and therefore you can know completely!

\*Uncertainty is having both parts *and* the unknown in your TTB!

## Notes:

-It comes down to Essentials. The Essentials of Creator TTB is simply the Concept of Creator and you can fit all of that in your head and therefore see it in its entirety. The same cannot be said for Theist which needs both the concept of A-IDeal and the Actualized-God/FBE.

## How Can You Know For Sure Creator Will Last!

-Creator will always exist in Potential, since to completely remove Creator form potential would mean that there would be something the FBE can't do. Remember that the FBE need not be one-thing which is the common-denominator needed by Theist.

## Switching Anchors:

-One major reason for Shifting is the accidental shifting of Anchors. The Anchor is Certainty, specifically Complete-Knowing. Divine-Will and anything else come secondary to Certainty! So no arguments about how Creator is an "Absolutist-TTB" because it doesn't matter!

## Why Only CK Gives Certainty:

-You can't see all of A-Ideal the concept or all of Actualized God. Even if a Supreme-Something is needed to ensure infinity and eternity, that still doesn't change the fact that your dedicating your life to something you don't wholly know.

-Creator TTB allows you to have it all - a concept which you can immediately and completely know and have immediacy with the Supreme. Creator TTB can 'jump' to anything it needs within metaphysics.

-In the simplest terms, if the Anchor is Certainty, Creator TTB gives more Certainty than Theist TTB by allowing for Complete-Knowing while also being immediately about God, A-Ideal, FBE, Existence, etc. In fact, there can be no Certainty without Complete-Knowing by the very definition of those terms.

-Without Full-Knowing, there is something which is unknown, which is the opposite of Certainty. Ergo, only CK grants Certainty and not Theist which has a few issues but otherwise has a TTB that has unknown parts.

\*Existence as a concept won't replace Creator because Existence relies on the current and known existence which we can't see all of. It can be appealing because then you can stay Theist and still have CK, but it doesn't work in practice. So it can't be a replacement for the concept of Creator.

\*
Infinite Scope

-While the A-Ideal requires only Itself, as per Aim of the A-Ideal, that is not the same thing as Its scope.

-For A-Ideal to be all things, it must be about all things or else there is something that It isn't!

>This includes the Principle of Whole & Parts.

\*An Infinite-Being must be about all things, otherwise there is something that It is not!

\*Aim of the A-Ideal only determines what the A-Ideal **needs**, not what It is **all about**.

\*Infinite Scope is important for Creator because if God, the A-Ideal, is all about Himself which is the only real act of creating, than that his how He relates to everything else as well. As The Creator (only real act of Creating).

## Note:

-The problem with Theist is that it doesn't give you everything else. You tentatively are about 'God' but you find yourself unable to relate to anything else that isn't strictly religious in some sense.

-This is what led to Iconoclasm and all the other dark, unholistic practices of theist religions in the past.

## Possessing All Things:

-Creator makes you about God and everything else too. Theist doesn't.

-Remember when you were Theist and couldn't connect with subjects like Wojtec the Bear or Seal Team 76?

>How will you study cars, mechancis, chemistry or non-religious art if you are Theist?!

-God is the Infinite-Being, and an Infinite-Being by nature has an infinite-scope, so He is about all things. Ergo, His TTB would reflect this.

-Remember, if the A-Ideal isn't actualizing the concept(s) of being about all things, then there is something It isn't!

## Theist Doesn't Allow You To Be About Anything Not-God:

-You often shift to Theism when you remember God, but also remember that you often switch back to Creator when you try to step outside of religion.

-Theist as a mindset is an extremist-mindset, it simply doesn't allow for your mind to truly emotionally invest in studying anything that is not strictly or immediately related to the subject of God.

-Technically, all things are of God, but a mortal mind cannot always feel that. This is proven by past incidents when you were Theist and you couldn't connect with anything in daily life because it didn't 'feel' strongly connected to the idea of God.

## For Man To Be Free, God Must Be Distant:

-If God truly wanted us to be Solus Deus, He would not have put us in a world where He is so distant in so many ways.

## The Names Don't Work:

-In theory, the Holy Names of Theist should make everything about God. In practice, however, they start to feel ridiculous.

-This is especially the case when you start piling them on top of each other. -
Honesty Loyalty

-Theist makes you have to okay with God, robbing you of an important facet of freewill - the capacity to disagree with anyone or anything should you choose to do so, even with God!

-Only Honest Loyalty (Creator allows you to follow God because you actually like Him, not because you need Him to be your TTB!)

>Theist violates the whole point behind freewill!?
How Do We Know Theist is Real?

How Do We Know Theist is Real?:

-Ind. proves the existence of a Supreme(s). Whatever that Supreme(s) is, that is the object of Theist TTB, and we can dedicate ourselves to striving to learn as much as possible about Him.

>This makes Theist TTB a viable, real-life TTB, and allows it to be used as the flagship Order in the Adept-System.
Intermediary

-Why is that, whenever we find belief in a Creator, God, we also find an Intermediary for the people with God. Jesus, Lugh, Thor, etc.?

-Is God so distant that it is outside the abilities of human nature to connect with Him all the time?

-Is it possible that the concept of Creator can be the fulfilment of this need for an Intermediary by being God in His conceptual form?
Need For Only One Internal-Action

-The idea of a 'system that is all systems combined' in addition to that of Creator/Addition seems fine at first but it runs into one big problem.

-While the Object of the A-Ideal can indeed produce multiple actions within Itself should It want too, ultimately It should not need to.

-The A-Ideal is infinitely sufficient, so It can function both as a Whole and as an Action, and that Action is only one Action.

>See Once You Discover One Part.
Arran Gottspeed

Born in Fang many moons ago, Arran is seen as a hero to the locals there. His approach in battle is simple and direct -- charge forwards, chopping left and right with such force and speed so as to quickly put his enemy off-balance.

Should they manage to sneak a blow in under this onslaught, it will likely brush off Arran's impressive physique as if it were a scratch. How Arran's mother, a diminutive seamstress, managed to produce such a gigantic warrior is anyone's guess. One popular theory is that giant's blood runs in his veins through some distant ancestor.

## Attributes

### Fearsome

A terrifying appearance can strike fear into others.

## Attacks

### Blade Storm

Arran whirls his swords around him in a deadly arc.

### Charging Twin Strike

In one fluid movement Arran charges forward, striking at foes either side of him.
Defining Correct TTB? (Creator)

-Whatever is the TTB of Existence is Creator (by definition).

-The real question is whether our perceptions of Creator are what Creator actually is. And considering all our perceptions of Creator revolve around additions or changes to Existence, I would say that they are at least a part of what is actually the concept of Creator!
Knowing What To Do

-Theist, because it is about the Variations of A-Ideal, keeps God distant and vague.

-We cannot gain a definitive value system with which to make important decisions in daily life.

-Creator can because it gives us one standard: that which is most creative, productive, or actualizes. Anything that best fits the concept of being Creator.

-But Theist is multiple Names, and so you have to figure out which Names apply, which are actualized, how they apply, etc, etc, etc!