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@rbdecepticon17 3 years ago

Okay everybody! I was just thinking over doing an rp/story for a romance between Jekyll and Hyde!

The difference...it's based in the SU universe as a genderbent AU where all the gems are male, instead of all female, though it won't really connect with Steven Universe's story.

But I would like to see what everybody's designs for them would be, and what gems they would have. Mainly for Jekyll and Hyde, but it would be awesome to see designs for Lanyon and Utterson too. X3

Also, i'd like to see what everybody thinks for fusions between them, though not just with Henry and Hyde...the possibilities are endless!

Go crazy everybody and have fun! And if you have any ideas for the plot too! Throw them my way! X3

-From RB. X3

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Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago • edited

Ooo! \*puts on thinking hat.\* Well I can help speculate, though drawing gonna be a bit hard. Let's see! Henry would be ...a red Beryl stone (it matches his eyes) and Hyde would be a green Beryl stone. The cool part about Beryl stones is that they are super rare and the surrounding minerals can make them different colors. I thought it might be the best stone for the two since they can come in greens and reds that look almost like Hyde's green and Jekyll's red. Also they're skin would be the colors of the stones like the gems.

I found this neat little note about Beryl stone but I think Vintages can help with the Beryl stone meaning more "Beryl is said to bring creativity, reduce tiredness, and increase intelligence. It has been used as a talisman stone for artists of all kinds and especially sculptors. Beryl is used for research philosophical studies."

Finally I think Hyde's stone would probably be on his chest and Henry's...maybe on his head. I came to this conclusion after reading that bit about stone placement but someone else might have better spots for them.

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RBDECEPTICON17  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

-Sat with popcorn in hand, mouth wide in awe-

That was...amazing HJ...so two beryl gems...and their gem names? Cause Beryl sounds a bit more feminine...though how i'm looking at it, is that they would arrive on Earth and gain human names...take a guess how they do that? XD

And I kinda see that their skin would be a touch lighter than their gems, and their hair would be similar to TGS hairstyle, just in red/green instead.

But I also forgot to mention one more thing...their fusion form! X3

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Hyde without a Jekyll  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago • edited

So I did some more research on Beryl and green beryl is more commonly known as Emerald. As for the names I'm not sure how you would get Red Beryl to be Henry unless someone gave him a nick name as for Edwards... Emerald sounds sort of like Edward so more nicknames I guess. Maybe we can think this is the future and as they are so different but simlar the person who gives the nicknames might know the book very well and see the characters in the gems. Oh wait...This is rhetorical isn't it?, Nevermind! XD

Definitely!

Maybe they're fusion form would be Morganite since that's a rose color Beryl. Other beryl colors include Golden Beryl, Heliodor (a greenish-yellow beryl), Goshenite (a colorless beryl), Aquamarine (a light blue or cyan beryl) and maxixe (a deep blue versoion of aquamarine).

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RBDECEPTICON17  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

Emerald can work for Edward.

And I was thinking that they come across a library and see the book, reading through it quickly, and thus they take the names for themselves.

Morganite...hmm...I like it! X3

But what kind of weapon would the two have...maybe Hyde some kind of pole staff he fights with...but what about Jekyll...? Hmm...

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Hyde without a Jekyll  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

OH! I like that story a lot better!

I was also poking around and you have red and green gems that are not beryls such as watermelon tourmaline, ruby zoisite, red and green andesine, and my favorite bloodstone.

Well in Sabrina's stories I've seen Hyde with a sickle and in others I've seen cane swords. I don't Jekyll would have a weapon like peridot or sapphire but have some other ability.

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RBDECEPTICON17  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

Hmm...a slightly big sickle for Hyde...hells yes! X3

And maybe Jekyll can command...hmm...fire? I don't know. XD

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Hyde without a Jekyll  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

XD Hyde is always happy when he gets a sickle!

No clue for Jekyll. Maybe someone else has some ideas?

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RBDECEPTICON17  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

Very true. And all you lovely ladies, and gentleman, are all super smart when it comes to ideas! X3

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Hyde without a Jekyll  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

Good luck with the designs and story! I can't wait to see it when you're finished! :D

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RBDECEPTICON17  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

I'm sure it won't be long to see designs on here! X3

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Hyde without a Jekyll  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

WOOT! XD

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Wizardblizzard  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

I was going to say something about "so he's the green eye of the little yellow god?", and THEN I remembered what the soldier's name is in that. Coincidences!

I keep wanting to put agate or possibly amethyst for Utterson and carnelian for Lanyon, but those are all quartz varieties and I saw Jasper saying a while ago that in Steven Universe quartz varieties were all soldiers and pearls were servants and "mainly there to look pretty"... And all this discussion of whether Hyde's gem ought to be on his hand or his chest and why if Jekyll had a weapon it should be a crossbow are riddles of the sphinx to me... So I'll just leave this to someone who's actually watched Steven Universe, which I haven't!

You probably could do a fair bit of damage with a sickle but I'm sorry, it's still a completely ridiculous and fanciful weapon for anybody. ...So yes, Hyde should definitely have that.

(Are we talking about Sabrina's Lanyon or Stevenson's Lanyon?) (If it's Sabrina's Lanyon I also want to put Abalone and never mind the scientist thing; if there's one thing he's an expert at it's looking pretty :-) )

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Hyde without a Jekyll  Wizardblizzard • 3 years ago • edited

\*Gasp\* Edward is definitely the green eye!! And Mad Carew!!! It's all connected!!! \*starts scribbling down conspiracy theories\*

I highly recommend the show it's extremely well done and addresses many modern day issues subtly(ish) while still retaining a whimsical feel. Small children are able to watch and enjoy it for its fantastical nature however many adults enjoy it due to it's deep themes. It's really, really well done!

XD That is an amazing explanation! Also in Cliffs of Insanity part 4 has Hyde enjoying a new sickle which he just obtained.

(I'm pretty sure we're talking of Sabrina's Lanyon and 100% yes! He would be abalone just be cause he's an expert of being pretty!! XD Also I think he's the one who taught Jekyll to be pretty but I'm not sure as I still need to buy/read Bleeding Heart.)

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RBDECEPTICON17  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

(Same here HJ, I really wanna read it! T-T

Also, if I was going with the idea of Jekyll being a pearl, it makes even more sense that he learned how to be pretty from Lanyon, making them friends in this universe. That would be so cute. X3)

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RBDECEPTICON17  Wizardblizzard • 3 years ago

Why thank you for your thoughts and ideas my friend. And we're talking about Sabrina's Lanyon.

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Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

... Are we doing that here?

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Miss-Dreamerkat  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

Lovely sketch

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RBDECEPTICON17  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

If your speaking of an rp...well i'm planning to do one with a friend...and I was hoping to have some help with designs and all that jazz for the characters.

(Also loving the sketch Jasper! X3)

So yeah, sorry that I didn't make it more clear Jasper.

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Jasper Jekyll  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago • edited

That's alright. It's just that if we're going to do that here, some of us aren't exactly going to fit the AU.

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RBDECEPTICON17  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

Very true Jasper, but we can try our best to assist with our knowledge of the show...and we won't force people into the AU if they don't want to do it. X3

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Jasper Jekyll  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

Most of us are pretty into the idea so I don't think that's a problem.

( She shrugs. )

All I'm saying is that there's gonna be normal Gems because shapeshifting into a new form is pretty hard to do for long periods of time.

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RBDECEPTICON17  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

Normal gems? And shapeshifting? I'm a touch confused.

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Jasper Jekyll  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

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RBDECEPTICON17  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

Okay then Jasper. XD

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Jasper Jekyll  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

...what? ( She shakes her head. )

Whatever. If you didn't get it, Most of us aren't built like Earth males. We'd have to change our form to look like that, and holding a form is kind of like.. ( She snaps her fingers, looking around. )

Uh. Lifting weights.

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RBDECEPTICON17  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

Oh! Okay that makes sense. Sorry that I didn't get it. And yeah I understand now.

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Jasper Jekyll  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

Good. ( She shifts back and leans against the wall. ) So yeah, that's really the only problem. If you want to introduce some custom mades that's great, totally respect that, but it's gonna be a bit of a mix here.

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RBDECEPTICON17  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

Okay. X3

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Hyde without a Jekyll  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

That's such a great picture! Is it ok if I add it to Jasper's character page?

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Jasper Jekyll  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

Uh... Sure

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Hyde without a Jekyll  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

yay! XD It's such a lovely picture and captures her emotions so well! I also wanted to have your permission before I put it up.

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Jasper Jekyll  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

( Jasper is a sentient being and has literally no idea what you are talking about, so I'm going to interject. Thank you so much for the compliment! I almost exclusively use Lauren Zuke's art to reference my Jasper because the proportions are most true to the show's current style. To be honest, she is my single favorite artist in the Crewniverse! The ease of expressions comes largely from exaggeration of her eyes and mouth- a trait very unique to Lauren's work. The other artists, barring Rebecca, tend to draw the characters with features that are slightly more complex. It's not bad, I just think Jasper looks better with simplistic round shapes in her form. You don't have to ask permission to post the reaction pictures you see here, but it's so thoughtful of you to ask! )

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Hyde without a Jekyll  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

\*listens intently to nothing\* Thank you! That's super interesting and helpful! \*walks out of room leaving behind a very confused Jasper.\*

(That's hilarious! XD

I never knew any of this, thank you for enlightening me! I see what your saying too with the simplistic design and exaggerated eyes and mouth and how those factors combined one can create expressive characters with ease. I've also just did some googling on Lauren Zuke and she has some really impressive art! Thank you for telling me about her and her impact in the show!

Also I should let you know that I've been trying to catch up on Steven Universe and now every time I see Jasper all I can think of is your Jasper which really makes the show confusing when she acts "our of character" ...but also more fun! [I may or may not have been rooting for the show's Jasper and becoming very upset when she does something bad or loses a fight... needless to say I've been yelling at the screen a lot. :\ ]

Also thank you for letting me know about the permission to post your pictures. I trying to ask for permission before I up load them so that way I have consent from the artists.)

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Jasper Jekyll  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

( Each of the artists are special and bring something unique to the episodes they animate. Some of them are very skilled with Eastern styled art, others are minimalistic. Some like to draw REEEEEEEALLY long necks. Lauren's style happens to be a very simple, very round. Eye catching.

I am honored that you thought of my Jasper during the episodes 😳 I too was involved with Gem-on-the-nose Jasper in an unfortunate way ( The song " You Made Me Love You" comes to mind. ) Gem-on-the-neck Jasper is the result of the collective frustration we all experienced during this arc, as well as the subtly body negative message it sent. Many of the traits you ( hopefully ) see are a deliberate 180° from the behavior of her canon counterpart. This is based on many people's headcanons where she "makes a better choice". In a way, you could consider Gem-on-the-neck Jasper a form of gratification.

It is very thoughtful of you to ask. We all appreciate it!)

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Hyde without a Jekyll  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

(Absolutely! It's been fun looking through the different artist's work and seeing how all they're combined styles form the Steven universe characters and well...universe!

Well I have to say Gem-on-the-neck Jasper has certainly spoiled me! I keep thinking of the show's Jasper as Gem-on-the-neck Jasper which makes it even more painful when nose Jasper is evil. :'( I feel so betrayed sometimes so I usually just come back here and re-read some of Jasper's story arcs which helps. :) )

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Jasper Jekyll  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

( It's especially trippy if you watch the pilot! Rebecca's native art style is COMPLETELY different. Very much of a transcendental 80's "King of the Hill" vibe. Completely opposite of the current one.

This honestly rendered me speechless for a few hours, I was that giddy about your comment. Our service dropped Cartoon Network from our package, so I went to Kisscartoon until they started leaking and editing the audio to their videos. I now watch"Steven Universe" on YouTube, which still leaves a lot of buffer time, but is more reliable. During the buffer time on the Jasper episodes, I'd replace her with Neck Jasper, sometimes adding Silver to the scene in progress. I can assure you the scenes would go much differently. Although they look nearly identical, Neck Jasper's motivations are different because she didn't learn things the way Nose Jasper did. She saw the world through different eyes and became a different person, freed from the anger that trapped her counterpart. This would naturally pit the two against each other, if they were to meet. Neck Jasper is more yeilding because she understood the why behind the war. She loved her Diamond, but she found a different kind of love and in doing so, also found what the Crystal Gems are fighting for. The reason they attacked her friends, why they turned against their race. She doesn't blame them for the deaths of her troop. She blames the Diamonds for lying to her comrades. You can sleep easy knowing that Neck Jasper will always be here :) )

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Hyde without a Jekyll  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

(Very much so! I did enjoy the pilot and seeing the stylistic differences between the characters! I always enjoy going back and viewing the differences between the art works and how the characters are portrayed. I liked how the intro was very different and how it's created to symbolize the different characters and their personalities! Such as how Garnet was standing between blue and red gemstones with fire and ice of either side to represent how she is the unity and love of Sapphire and Ruby while Amethyst as laying upon tigers and lions to show her wild yet playful nature. The characters still retain their personalities between the pilot and the current show but it's super interesting how the art differences changes one's perception of them...and I'm rambling at this point...

I do love Neck Jasper oh so much! I often just start texting JH and other people about how awesome she it at random points during the week. I'm so happy she's here and while I do understand that her and nose Jasper are completely different due to their experiences and upbringings I just can't help but replace Nose Jasper with her in my mind [Neck>Nose]. I shall always sleep well knowing that there is such an amazing Jasper out there! Heck if I'm lucky enough I might even dream about her! :D [Disclaimer: Nose Jasper is an amazing villain in her own right on how she approaches scenarios and her portrayal of masculinity is genius and perfect for her character! I respect Nose Jasper in many ways however it is normal for the human mind to despise a villain such as Jasper and desire for her to be on the side we root for. Nose Jasper is an amazing antagonist and all I can do is feel betrayed by her actions and thus feel hatred towards her. ])

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Jasper Jekyll  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago • edited

( Honestly, your rant was A+ materiel. Like you could write a solid essay with that right there! I didn't get as much out of it as you did, so it's amazing to hear your insights on this!

Despite my insistence that she is different, I also use her as a replacement from time to time. Because of this, I can't always tell if her character is coming across correctly. It's a little difficult maintaining that hard edge while also softening the core because you DON'T want Jaspers to be happy go lucky cinnamon rolls. They're hardened soldiers with a vaguely cool demeanor, and nyan neko sugar girls wouldn't make sense in that context ( Unless you were watching a particularly trash quality anime which she is the icy impenetrable senpai that the main ditz is pining for. We all know the one. ) Like, in my head, she's a really cool dude that zero Gems trust because she's gruff and hot headed and they have no idea she's going to pull the destabilizer on them, but she's actually the kind of person that would throw a Pearl sized person in the air and catch them, like a child. Also she's like the Doctor. She treats humans like children which can be irritating. I'm pretty sure there's other good Jaspers like her. If you look at the Ruby squad, you can see that only two of them are really violent. The rest are likeable people. With the Gemsona AU underway, I'm sure we'll be seeing more puffs walking around too!

I'm super stoked that you like Neck Jasper though! I think she definitely makes the Society at least a little more safe.

Lord help us if someone ever manages to shatter her here ;\_\_;

[ ( Steps on soapbox. ) I personally think that making her a villain was in bad taste and I'm extremely resentful of the Crewniverse for it. The show was supposed to be a message of acceptance and diversity, but so far they've taken every masculine Gem and painted them the same color, which I consider to be body shaming and biased. There are real people who are built JUST like Jasper and they're bullied and insulted because everyone assumes they're a big bad brute. Some of these people are Olympic athletes. Jasper's okay, but she had the potential to be MORE and they made her a two bit villain. They threw her away just like they threw out Bismuth. That's not okay. ( Steps off soapbox. ) ]

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Hyde without a Jekyll  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

(>///< Oh! Thank you! My analysis skills are the only reason I got through my Language and Literature classes. I try to stem off my rants as they can go on for a while and not everyone wants to hear them but I'm glad you enjoyed it!

This is so cool hearing your incite into your characters! I do see what you mean by how all gems have different personalities and how the differences can be extreme or subtle. You do a really nice job portraying Jasper's hard outside but soft inside and I can easily see it with dialog and actions! It's extremely comical watching her protect her squishy human "children" [ex: The gun Story Alternate time line...this was such a perfect time line and I could talk about it for days...actually I think I have talked about it for days to HJ X3 ] who protest and say they can take care of themselves while Jasper puts out their fires, feeds them, and just rolls her eyes knowing she's right. I remember you saying how Jasper is a nurturing and protection stone. It's been a ton of fun to see Jasper protecting the society all the while with a gruff appearance but still having a streak of sweetness in her! [I may have nicknamed her mama Jasper in my head... :) ] Right now I sort of see Neck Jasper as one of the Society's front line defensive against our antagonists. The way I'm watching the story's dominoes fall right now we'll definitely going to need her help to defend against threats [ex: Elder, Hela, Elise?, Lady Jekyll, etc. ] If she were to ever fall in the line of duty I think the whole society would cry for days and we would try our best to save her.

I love Jasper and many a time I will start texting people about how much I love her...this can get a bit awkward when they don't understand the TRPS universe or think it's nose Jasper, but some how they all still put up with me. :D

[I would like to have a friendly discussion about this topic if that's ok with you? I don't often get to discus and debate these sorts of things with people for one reason or another.

I understand where you're coming from with the inclusive show shaming masculinity and such. I do hope they will introduce a character like jasper {it probably won't be another Jasper as we already have a key Jasper character} and do make them included, excepted, and non stereotypical. Now the show needed a physical antagonist before they introduced the actual diamonds. The show often talks, in the beginning, of homeworld gems and makes them out to be the villain. While it's easy that they could become part of the rebellion, like Peridot, we needed a actual antagonist to be against. Sure you had the cluster but it was just misunderstood and didn't want to be made. And you had lapiz and peridot but again misunderstood and turned rebel. That only left Jasper of the bunch. While they could have said "sure lets make Jasper a crystal gem too!" they still needed an enemy on earth fighting against the crystal gems to remind the audience that the homeworld threat was still real. Now that jasper has been corrupted and we've seen the face of Yellow diamond, I think we may begin to uncover new villains {potential a dominatrix villain is what I'm thinking for Yellow diamond}. My hope is that while we find most of the homeworld gems can switch over to the crystal gem's side we may also see some of the crystal gem's switching to the homeworld side or we may see that they aren't all pure {I think there's a lot more to the story of Rose killing pink diamond}. We did have characters such as Sugilite and some rubies who are more aggressive or masculine in appearance or nature that aren't necessilary bad or even masculine in attitude. I think the best example of this are the rubies who all appear to be masculine physically however we do have a couple of sweet hearts on the ruby squad. The Leg ruby is very sweet often smelling flowers and clueless, stomach ruby is also very happy and can be flustered or even crying, and of course Garnet's ruby who is just a temperamental sweetheart! I do hope they introduce more characters like Jasper but in different lights however I think they're building up the story to that point and don't want to rush it.

(steps on to soapbox) Don't even get me started of Bismuth!!! I love Bismuth!! She's super cool, voiced by an amazing actress {I love the work Uzo Aduba does and her voice is so soothing to me and I loved it since the first time I heard it on Orange is the New Black}. Bismuth is my 2nd favorite character after Garnet {cause Garnet is awesome} but I feel like if we ever get to see more of her she may become my favorite! I really identify with Bismuth's character and love her concept of wanting to create something that everyone could use no matter what class they are. I loved the idea of a construction gem and just... FEELS!!! Also I enjoyed viewing her take on the gem war and her "the ends justify the means" approach as I also have that mentality a lot...and yes I'm a Slytherin. However since I do identify with this character so much I also understand why they bubbled her. Many people and characters like Bismuth are often imprisoned and villain-ized for one reason or another...and I should stop now before I begin my giant rant which I've been developing for years as it would be very long...(gets off soapbox)]

Sorry this is such a long post! :P )

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Jasper Jekyll  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

( The hard work you put into your analytical skills really shows. Don't ever be ashamed of it! The people that don't appreciate an intelligent conversation are probably jealous and dim witted >:/ Definitely not worth your time!

The reason I brought Jasper to this Society was almost exclusively because her character is basically one giant art block and I needed other live people to bounce ideas off of, so I gave her an outfit change and an alternate bio ( Her canon one is p much just No one's responding to my orders WTH? > The Rubies never came back > Sends another Jasper > The GGs aren't stupid > Fire away, fire away > Silver finds her gem on the beach and wears it as a necklace until One Night™ > screaming > more screaming > throwing stuff > death threat > Jasper lives amongst the humans because 1. base totally destroyed 2. has literally no idea where she is > slowly assimilated into the Singer family. The RPS one is that the giant battle for Earth actually happens in London in 1880 and all the Gems have J&H surnames because they can. Jasper's a war doctor on the brink of a revolutionary weapon- a serum that's sort of like artificial fusion, but designed to implant your conscience into their gem and split their mind in two. The rest is spoilers that you all are going to be seeing in a couple months :) She's still a soldier and it definitely shows with all the fighting she does here XD I fully support "Mama Jasper". This alias is officially approved!

[ We can definitely still talk about it, the recent storytelling is just a sore spot for me. Like I could settle for Jasper's arc if they gave us Bismuth, but this whole season just leaves a bad taste in my mouth and I don't want you to feel attacked by my spontaneous anger XD

It doesn't HAVE to be a Jasper they add, I just want to see a full scale masculine shaped Gem that ISN'T "evil", "unstable", or "brutishly violent" and subsequently carted off to bubble prison for the rest of their natural lives. I agreed with you originally, but "Message Received" is where it changed for me because that is when Yellow Diamond became a real tangible villain character. That's the point where they didn't HAVE to use Jasper as a scapegoat anymore. I understand that we needed to hear about Pink Diamond and I definitely agree with you that there's something else going on, but it could have been done a better way and I don't think the message they sent agreed with the purpose of the show. Sure we had the Rubies and Sugilite, but the Rubies are small and compact and Sugilite was almost immediately written off as "crazy and unsafe OOOO". There's just this glaring double standard and it makes me want to punch a wall with my Pearly little fist. It's simply that unequal representation that makes me mad is all. ] )

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Hyde without a Jekyll  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

(Aw! Thanks! Normally either everyone's too tired to analyze, no one knows what I'm analyzing, or we're analyzing something for school. :P But all in all, this is a ton of fun!

Well I'm super happy she decided to drop by, cause we all know how much we need more stable characters who can fight!

Spoilers!! AGH!! The suspense!! DX I really like her backstory and it's fun to read how she came to this RP! Also I can't wait to see what happens in the next couple of months with her story! I never knew Jasper was a war doctor! I always thought she just studied war patterns and strategies as to protect earth but her whole HJ Gem serum is super cool! I do hope we can see that part of her bio develop in the coming plot lines! XD But she better not die cause I would cry and mourn for days! D':

Mama Jasper has been added to her character page!

[Your spontaneous anger is totally welcomed here considering I bombarded you with a Bismuth rant! :D

I do see your point on how when Yellow Diamond became a tangible villain they could have made Jasper a crystal gem. But, I think at that point Jasper was a bit too damaged by the Crystal Gems to be saved. I mean Lapiz {crystal gem} kept her at the bottom of the ocean for a good long while, Peridot betrayed her in in her mind by joining the crystal gems, they throw Jasper in a volcano {in her mind}, they turned Lapiz against her in "alone at sea" , etc. I think the writers believed that since Jasper has been the antagonist for so long it might be hard for the audience to believe she's had a change of heart. I also see what you mean by Rubies being small and not as threatening in appearance as Jasper, Bismuth, and Sugilite. I also understand your issue with Sugilite being written off as unsafe and crazy, though I do hope she makes a reappearance. I think this show, while having a main theme of inclusion, also has an underlying tone of feminism not necessary in the since of equality for all genders but that's a whole other debate. I do hope that more masculinity characters get a chance to shine in a positive way on that show soon, and if not then I shall go and enjoy Bismuth some more. To The Fan Fiction!!]

[Very off topic here...but what ever happened to A Festival of Strength story line? I do hope we can finish those plot lines sometime as I'm very curious as to what you had planned for our characters!])

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Jasper Jekyll  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago • edited

( In that case, I can sympathize. English 1A is a horrible abomination that should be wiped off the face of this planet. This discussion is super fun though!

Jasper's primarily a war doctor because book! Jekyll has, like, 1,0000000000000000000 degrees to his name and you kind of have to have at least one Ph.D to have the doctor suffix ( so yes, her formal TRPS name is Dr. Jasper Jekyll ). It makes sense though with Gem biochemistry because it ties her soldier-ness with the whole fusion crazy aspect but in a reasonable non creepy way. You guys kind of do need bara people running around! I mean, Hen's pretty good but he's only human. Jasper is a rock. In the literal sense. Definitely an ideal first line of defense! I plan to out her bio the next time Catt decides to open a portal, which may or may not jeopardize Jasper's safety. Something wicked this way comes~

[ Your Bismuth rant is fully welcome! I have a friend who loves her just as much as you do so these \*breaking\* points are familiar to me. I wouldn't consider Lapis a Crystal Gem by any means and, despite Peridot's declaration, I don't think she's formally recognized as one by the group either. You can sort of tell by the way they're exiled to the barn rather than welcomed to the temple. I always hoped that at least Jasper would take that road and make a home for herself somewhere in some reclused corner of the Earth while maintaining at least civil interactions with the other canons. I'm sad and disappointed that she's no longer with us, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't see it coming. I think a lot of what I'm really upset about has mostly to do with the gender discrimination you touched on. It's great that the main is a male, but you get this very decided feeling that "Masculinity is Bad!!!"

As far as the Festival of Strength goes, there was nothing really planned. It was kind of based on the idea "wouldn't it be fun if the Society participated in the Olympics?" But a combination of Disqus's bad decisions, lack of response, and sudden decrease in energy squashed it ( nothing like depression to stop your projects in their tracks, eh? ) I'll probably pick it back up at the closing ceremony so we can finish the plot lines in progress. ] )

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Hyde without a Jekyll  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

(English you pain me so!! \*shakes fist at the English books I had to read over the summer for school\*

"Jasper is a rock. In the literal sense." this is probably my favorite description of Neck Jasper yet! XD I'm also excited/nervous of what shall happen when Catt or maybe Nex and Dreamer open a extra dimensional portal again! Though I'm unsure if Catt will be opening another portal since Elder has already crawled through...then again she might open a portal during A Prank too far...hm...

[You make an excellent point about Lapis and Peridot not formally being part of the crystal gems since they live in the barn and not the temple. I always sort of saw it as team 2 of the crystal gems. Sort of like how {oh man I can't think of a better example than code name kids next door's other bases in different parts of the world! Agh! XP }...um...cops have different stations for different areas and towns. They all work together but they are part of different sections...oh I hope that makes sense. I would have liked them to converted over the entire cluster team {Jasper, lapiz, and Peridot} but I think it might have been too optimistic or unrealistic to think/do that...but all the same it might have been fun! Crystal Gems: the Barn Squad!

That underlying theme and tone of "Masculinity is Bad!!!" definitely is there. I do think they toned it down since the pilot where Lars was making comments like "Aren't all the crystal gems hot chicks?" and such. I'll try not to get too far into this as discrimination and rights and liberties is a whole other issue, but I do hope the tone will fluctuates from a negative point of view on Masculinity to more of a women are just as good as men and everyone should be treated equally no matter what sort of view with a focus on women pride, LGBTQ+ pride, and the other pride groups that the show represents.

Alright! I just wasn't sure where it was going and curiosity got the better of me. I do hope we'll be able to finish it sometime as it was a fun plot line! {ah depression! Just like a creative block but worse.} ])

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Jasper Jekyll  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

( High level English kills everyone. You are not alone!

Comparing Hen to Jasper, that's literally the most important difference though! Hen's strong, but he's an average sized squishy human man. U squish Jasper, U ded. That's about as stark as it gets!

Catt indicated during the last "Pick your own creature" adventure that she planned to do it again, so hopefully more timey winery things will happen. Otherwise, the world may never know😉

[ If not for the main cast, I might agree, but I feel like they regard the entire Homeworld team rather coolly. I don't think Garnet, Amethyst, or Pearl would consider them a part of their team because the trio are already extremely close. I get the impression that they're more of an exclusive clique than an actual army.

As for the "Masculinity is Bad!!!" theme they have going on, they made the shaming more subtle for sure, but I think this conversation has everything to do with discrimination, rights and liberties and it's something people should be talking about because it's obvious that body shaming is still a big problem. It has just as much to do with it as it would if this were an anti LGBT production. The damage that comes from being shamed by even something as benign as a cartoon is insidious and can be destructive for kids that are already not in healthy homes. Young people that endure lifelong emotional abuse aren't given the tools to become independent and well balanced. This is even worse for kids born female and intersex because there's this added pressure to be attractive and ideal. Looking at the lack of representation could send the message that there's something wrong with them and they must be evil because they're built differently than the feminine girls. The Crewniverse has two more seasons to turn it around though, so hopefully we WILL see true equality.

Like I said, I'm going to wait for closing ceremony. At this point, it's kind of pointless to follow the theme while the games are taking place, so... probably Sunday? ] )

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Hyde without a Jekyll  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

( XD Thanks!

\*much laughing\* That's perfect! Note to self: don't try squishing Jasper.

That's right! She's going to hold another one in October! I forgot about that! And you better tell all on Jasper's back story or else I will be very sad!! D:< You just can't taunt a person with amazing backstories and future stories and not give tell them! It's just cruel and unusual punishment!!

[Definitely more like a exclusive clique! XD I think that's because there's only 2 gems (Garnet and Pearl) from the original army and 1 gem who participated in some of the battles (Amethyst). They've all been through a lot together and so it's a bit hard to join the group who all have bonds so strongly with one another from so many shared experiences that changed them. When one thinks "Army" they often think hundreds of soldiers not 3 gems and a Steven so that sort of destroys the army idea really fast.

Absolutely! Any sort of discrimination whether it be through body shaming, stereotyping, or just subtle connotations is really bad especially in children's literature! Children are very impressionable and pick up on the most subtle of tones. While if this was adult literature it might be different as the speaker could assume there audience was educated enough to understand the critiquing of modern day culture this piece is choosing to voice. Body shaming is a huge problem in today's culture and it's everywhere in advertisements, schools, TV shows etc. The pressure society puts on everyone on every sex to look a certain way and act a certain way and it shouldn't! I know several places and people out there are trying to correct this but even the smallest things can set progress back. I do hope that Crewniverse can fix this and do so soon. \*sighs\*

Sunday sounds good! I'll keep an eye out for it!])

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Jasper Jekyll  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

( no problem! Some of us learned that the hard way so you don't have to °^°

I mean, if you squeezed her arm or something, she wouldn't send you flying. I'm talking about the unfortunate soul who thinks they can outbrute a Quartz. As in, attempting to squish Jasper like a bug. Because that won't end well. At all. Jasper's bio is actually more like a living story. It's reveal depends on the ability to travel from her home dimension to this one, so when that happens, you'll see what I've been hiding 😏

[ Even then, like, Rose bubbled people that were IN their force if they didn't agree with her. Steven has no idea what she was like, but the others, Pearl especially may still feel her pressure, hence why they're still so selective.

The Crewniverse had BETTER fix this or they're going to be forever known as hypocrites. They're better than that. This show is better than that :(

I don't know EXACTLY when the closing ceremony is, might not be Sunday, but I'll get it out when that happens. Probably ] )

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Hyde without a Jekyll  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

(XD So giving her grandma cheek squishes is totally ok! Right? ;D

This is just evil!! Taunting me with story information! Not just story information but Backstory information!! AGH!! I can't take this abuse!! DX

[When Rose bubbled Bismuth {BISMUTH!!! \*cries a little\* D':} that just seemed really sketchy to me. I mean she's made as this great person but then does things that seem...Diamond like in her approach and actions. Thus the fan theories flow! I never thought of it like that where Pearl still feels her pressure to be selective on who's in and out of the group! That's a great observation!

I agree! This show has been super progressive and amazing so far and they really should be able to fix this issue...I hope they do fix it. :\

Yep I just checked and the closing ceremony is Sunday.])

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Jasper Jekyll  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

( If you can reach up there, sure. You might want to explain your intentions first though because her gem is also up there and ripping someone's gem off their body to poof them is totally a thing. Jasper probably will flip you if you randomly go near her neck with grabby hands. Just an FYI.

Like I wasn't even going to say anything ( partly because I didn't think people actually paid real attention to Jasper ) but you seemed eager to listen and I don't really have a chance to actually show people her history, but she IS relevant to this group. I'm not going to take outside characters in without outfitting them for this story first :P

You're not going to be seeing everything that happened, BUT she left behind some important parts of her life and they're about to catch up to her and THAT is what you're going to see.

[ I agree with you, but I also feel like no one ever presented Rose as perfect. A while ago, someone complained about Rainbow Quartz being a perfect Fusion and one of the Crewniverse people shot back a reply saying " who said she's perfect?". I think Garnet and Pearl definitely romanticize Rose but for different reasons. Pearl willingly blinded herself to Rose's flaws because all she saw was her face. She was infatuated and compromised by oxytocin ( and possibly dopamine ). Garnet romanticizes Rose because you can see how much she cares for Steven. She knows that he's too young to be emotionally capable of handling his mother's consequences. Rose knew what to say at the right time and she's responsible for Garnet's strengths and Amethyst's self esteem, but I don't think her flaws are completely overlooked. They're probably being hidden because of Steven. That being said, Pearl being manipulated by Rose isn't entirely out of the question, so that's just kind of a suspicion I have about their Crystal Clique.

I do agree that the show is mainly progressive and it teaches a lot of good lessons, but I think those lessons are undermined with the choices they make. They'd BETTER fix it Ò\_\_\_Ó

Then on Sunday you shall see it! Probably! ] )

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Hyde without a Jekyll  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

(That's good to know! Thank you!

Are you kidding!?! Jasper is one of my favorite characters here!! After I told JH about the gun story and how Jasper beat up Hela we spent a good long time talking about how awesome she is! I can't wait to see her backstory [I have a bit of weakness for well developed backstories... :3 ] I be more than happy to listen to any backstory for any character as I find they often create depth in the character and reliability.

THE TAUNTING!!! DX YOU'RE KILLING ME HERE!!

[I never heard of that Rainbow Quartz conversation but that's super interesting! I guess you're defiantly on to something with the gems shielding Rose's flaws from Steven as to give him the best memory of his mother possible. I also agree that Pearl blinded herself of Rose's flaws as she has blindly followed Rose and is infatuated with what Rose represents and therefore for Rose herself as well. I feel like Amythest never really saw Rose's flaws as she came in near the end of the war or shortly before steven was made. I think Garnet knows Rose's flaws and recognizes them for what they are but isn't telling Steven to protect him and his memory of his mom. I think Bismuth knew all about Rose's flaws and the story needed her bubbled so she wouldn't spill the beans... :'( Bismuth... I don't think Rose manipulated Pearl but more Pearl allowed herself to do what ever Rose wanted and followed her unconditionally. But I guess we'll see what happens in the next season and hopefully they recognize and fix their mistakes and if not I'm sure the fans will respond.

Will do! :D ])

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Miss-Dreamerkat • 3 years ago • edited

Hmm i need my thinking cap \*rummages through stuff in closet, finds it and puts it on\* I think Hyde would be a Peridot and Jekyll would be a Red Spinel with Lanyon being a Smoky Quartz. Their fusion would be a Rainbow Topaz. Gem placments would be: Henry on forehead (obviously \*says it in rarity voice\*) and Edward, i'd say the cocky son of a gun would have it on the palm of his left hand.

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Hyde without a Jekyll  Miss-Dreamerkat • 3 years ago

Ooo!! XD I like the way you think! According to the show Peridots are technicians and that would be hilarious for Hyde to be a computer geek! XD He would totally join the rebel cause just so he could actually punch something! Also he would be short! XD

I didn't even know of Red spinels! That's such a pretty gem and its extremely rare!

If Lanyon was a smoky quartz he would be the sassiest smoky quarts to have ever existed! XD though where do you think his gem would be?

\*googles rainbow topaz\* IT'S SO PRETTY!!! \*O\* Now would that be Jekyll's and Hyde's fusion or Jekyll's, Hyde's, and Lanyon's fusion?...Now that's a ship to think about! XD

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Miss-Dreamerkat  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago • edited

Jekyll and Hyde fusion and lanyon's gem placement would be on his chest. And I can so see Hyde doing that and lanyon would be very sassy. Also yes that is

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Hyde without a Jekyll  Miss-Dreamerkat • 3 years ago

Ah thank you! Also what weapon or ability do you think Jekyll would have?

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Miss-Dreamerkat  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

His weapon would probably be a cross bow and his ability would probably be to control fire

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Hyde without a Jekyll  Miss-Dreamerkat • 3 years ago

That would be him! XD

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Miss-Dreamerkat  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

Excellent!

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RBDECEPTICON17  Miss-Dreamerkat • 3 years ago

The fire was what I had mentioned before for him...and the cross bow would be perfect for him! X3

-High Five!-

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Miss-Dreamerkat  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

Yay! \*high fives \*

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Jasper Jekyll  Miss-Dreamerkat • 3 years ago

( The giant saunters into the room, leaning against the door. ) Hey, I dunno if you're super into Gemology but I thought I'd make your aware that Jasper's a fire stone. Kay. ( She lifts herself off the door and saunters back out. )

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Miss-Dreamerkat  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

I understand that but the show also, according to gemology (i'm really in to it) that Sapphires are the common gems and rubies are the rare gems, instead the show does the opposite. There have been many times where the show just goes with there own thing such as Bismuth a gemstone when it is a radioactive metal.

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RBDECEPTICON17  Miss-Dreamerkat • 3 years ago

That sounds like a really great idea Miss. X3

A Peridot and a Red Spinel...I like it...

Though if you all wanted my opinions on what gem I see them as...I see Jekyll as a pearl...and Hyde as a Jasper...

Take that knowledge and use it how you see fit. X3

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Miss-Dreamerkat  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

Oh my god I see it!

That would work just as good and well

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RBDECEPTICON17  Miss-Dreamerkat • 3 years ago

Why thank you my friend. X3

And since it seems that there are multiple numbers of gems, like tones of pearls, amythests and jaspers, but they all have a few differences in appearances, and sometimes in personality, it can really help to give them unique designs.

Pearl's have slim and elegant designs, kinda like how Henry has in some ways an elegant design.

And even though Hyde is small compared to a Jasper, they are still both quite tough and have messy hair, and are pretty sinister...but as i've mentioned before, in my opinion he has limits to his evil, so he could be different compared to other jaspers.

How does that sound? X3

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Miss-Dreamerkat  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago • edited

Great! And i know this

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Miss-Dreamerkat  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

Also I watch the show I know that

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Hyde without a Jekyll  Miss-Dreamerkat • 3 years ago • edited

The show is SO good! XD Who's your favorite character?

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Miss-Dreamerkat  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago • edited

Pearl and Connie and yes it is

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Elaina Hyde • 3 years ago

I LIKE THAT.

Also RD I need you to write a Helen x Elaina fanfic with ALL THE SMUT

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Miss-Dreamerkat  Elaina Hyde • 3 years ago

Oh dear. I can feel myself blushing already

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Elaina Hyde  Miss-Dreamerkat • 3 years ago

CCCCX

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Miss-Dreamerkat  Elaina Hyde • 3 years ago

X3

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RBDECEPTICON17  Elaina Hyde • 3 years ago

0\_0 I...I am actually speechless right now...

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Elaina Hyde  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

\*evil laugh\*

There was a girl I met and her name sounded like Helen and Elaina put together, so I told Helen it was our ship name Cx and she said next there'll be fan fictions about them.

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RBDECEPTICON17  Elaina Hyde • 3 years ago

Personally, I can do yuri fanfics...but I think this is one time where I have to say no to this idea. Sorry about that. Unless this was a joke...in which case well played Elaina. XD

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Elaina Hyde  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

Well, it was really just to mess with Helen XD

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Elaina Hyde  Elaina Hyde • 3 years ago

Okay, so, all the smut was a bad idea.

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RBDECEPTICON17  Elaina Hyde • 3 years ago

XD Now if you said it was to mess with Hela, that would have made it even funnier. XD

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Elaina Hyde  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

True XD

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Miss-Dreamerkat • 3 years ago

We seriously need to do an AU where our characters are gems.

(Mine would be a fusion that broke apart)

This would be so cool to do! If our characters where gems. But i'm not sure who else would like this idea.

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RBDECEPTICON17  Miss-Dreamerkat • 3 years ago

Well, i'm planning to do an rp with a friend of mine...but I would so be in for everyone having their own...gemsonas, as they call them. But we need to make a questionaire for making our gemsonas...that would be cool. X3

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Miss-Dreamerkat  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

Yeah and I know about gemsonas I have one.

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RBDECEPTICON17  Miss-Dreamerkat • 3 years ago

Do they have a design? And may I see it? X3

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Miss-Dreamerkat  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

http://miss-dreamerkat.devi...

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RBDECEPTICON17  Miss-Dreamerkat • 3 years ago

That is an amazing design, and I really liked the bio for her too! X3 Awesomeness Miss. X3

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Miss-Dreamerkat  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

Thanks

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RBDECEPTICON17  Miss-Dreamerkat • 3 years ago

I wonder..what would be my gemsona?

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Jasper Jekyll  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

Who are you?

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RBDECEPTICON17  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

An 18 year old british girl from England, long blonde hair and green eyes? XD

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Jasper Jekyll  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

Okay, that's what you LOOK like. Who are YOU?

Are you a brute? A dancer? A soldier? Are you a nosy know-it-all or a lazy mess maker with an attitude? Your gem is who you are, what you were made to be.

I am a Jasper. I was made for melee. Fighting is my one true purpose, danger my middle name. We were designed to protect and defend- the very nature of our gem. ( She looks up through her lashes, cocking an eyebrow. ) What are you?

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RBDECEPTICON17  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

A dancer or a soldier sounds pretty accurate, and I do have a bit of an attitude if you piss me off. X3

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Jasper Jekyll  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

Are you actually strong, or just "in the real way"?

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RBDECEPTICON17  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

XD Well for starters, thanks for the reference. And second, i'm quite strong, though not Jasper levels of strong. X3

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Jasper Jekyll  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago • edited

Oh please, NO ONE is this powerful!

If you're hot headed and strong, you're probably still some kind of Quartz. What's your favorite color?

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RBDECEPTICON17  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

Purple. X3

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Jasper Jekyll  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

( She narrows her eyes. ) How would you feel about being a Purple Aventurine?

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RBDECEPTICON17  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

-Backs away slightly with a confused expression-

It sounds good to me...I guess...what does a purple aventurine look like?

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Jasper Jekyll  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

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RBDECEPTICON17  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

X3 EEEEEEE~! So pretty! X3

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Jasper Jekyll  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

You'd still be a Quartz, but it suits your attitude.

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RBDECEPTICON17  Jasper Jekyll • 3 years ago

Okay then. X3

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Miss-Dreamerkat  RBDECEPTICON17 • 3 years ago

Hmm...i need to think.

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Hyde without a Jekyll  Miss-Dreamerkat • 3 years ago

\*pops in\* I love that idea! It could be a ton of fun! XD

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Miss-Dreamerkat  Hyde without a Jekyll • 3 years ago

I set up a discussion to talk about it

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