Dario Greggio Fascism Fiasco

The so-called **Dario Greggio Fascism Fiasco/Debate**, also just "**the debate**" sometimes refers to a series of discussions relating to fascism and started by former server member Dario Greggio in the #general channel of the Magna Terra official Discord server.

## The Debate Itself

The debates were highly controversial and remain in the memory of server members even to this day. They more or less began, depending on how one considers their beginning, on 14/07/23 and ended on 15/07/23, with the banning of Dario Greggio. On one side of this debate was Dario Greggio himself, and on the other were most of the other server members at the time, including Azephlion, Aokperson, 2meme2, ranked\_competitive\_sex and XiphosS.

The main arguments Dario brought in favor of fascism were:

1. That fascism is the perfect ideology (while not the first presented, it became obvious that this was a creed for him, ideologically);
2. That fascism is the realization that humans are not perfect or even good and that social harmony can only be achieved by people banding together, which is the economic system fascism employs (corporatism). Moreover, this economic system would apparently integrate features of capitalism and socialism. It would, somehow, also potentially include workplace democracy. The failure of the aforementioned economic systems is, in Dario's view, the fact that they are based around class conflict (though this is, obviously, very debatable, especially within social democracy, democratic and reformist socialism and/or most strains of capitalist thought).
3. That fascism is a science, because fascism is the perfect method of governance. This claim was rebuked by XiphosS using the Oxford English Dictionary but also using a simple analogy between the study of any political ideology and philosophy, not science as in the natural study of elements. Of course, one may consider that science is more than mathematics, physics, chemistry etc., which would justify fascism being a science (and thus being infallible, in Dario's words). However, that violate the Oxford definition of the word, which makes this claim false.
4. Social harmony is the key for a prosperous society, which is achieved through Corporatism. Azephlion commented on this by saying that society forces people to adhere to social, religious and social customs.
5. Sacrificing some of your freedoms for prosperity and security is a worthy and rational thing to do. This is easily debatable and can be easily rebuked too with a simple analysis of most religious and philosophical systems throughout human existence.
6. Fascism is not inherently right wing, it is 'above' other political theories and cannot be properly classified according to them (this claim was made, somewhat indirectly, on 13/07/23).

While this article aims mostly to cover the claims of Dario, it also included the responses to his arguments. The debate ended with Dario being banned by server moderators, and although the moderators certainly didn't analyze the arguments brought forth by Dario one can potentially claim that the debate was already not going in his favor. For instance, his answer to XiphosS's response to his claim of fascism being a science was "Who cares about the english!!! Curbstomp their children into concrete", representing his inability to answer to these rebukes but also his possibly semi-nationalist opinions.

## Effects on Magna Terra

The people of Magna Terra were somewhat shocked by the debates and rushed to present their points of view and, albeit, mostly simple responses to Dario's claims. Due to this, a very active 'second discussion' was taking place alongside the debate between Dario and Azephlion (sometimes XiphosS too).

Dario's banning meant the de facto end of the Danish State, and thus, the end of the Danish Civil War (see History of Iteration 3 for more information). While the debates have long ended, they remain a phony, funny, annoying or even scary episode in the minds of some of the server's members.