Youxi Chaguan 2020: Lin Su

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## Introduction

米哈游从不掩饰自己要成为世界一流动漫企业的立项和目标，除了在游戏领域保持高水准的内容产品，在漫画、动画、周边等内容的打造上也倾注了大量的时间和精力。
miHoYo has never hidden its ambition and goal of becoming a world-class anime company. In addition to maintaining high-quality content in the gaming field, they have also invested a significant amount of time and effort into creating content in manga, animation, and merchandise.

奇响天外文化传播有限公司是2019年1月份被米哈游相中的，米哈游在奇响天外持股约13.34%，只不过奇响天外并不属于漫画、动画、影视、周边这样的内容领域，其主营业务是配音。
Qixiang Tianwai Culture Communication Co., Ltd. was noticed by miHoYo in January 2019. miHoYo holds approximately 13.34% of the shares in Qixiang Tianwai. However, Qixiang Tianwai is not involved in content areas such as manga, animation, film, or merchandise; their main business is voice acting.

奇响天外是上海近年来颇受关注的新生代配音力量，主攻游戏和动漫领域，其下包括林景、秦且歌、花玲、多多等人气配音演员，在中日双语配音领域均有着不错的人气与影响力。
Qixiang Tianwai has gained considerable attention in Shanghai in recent years as a new generation voice acting power. They focus on the gaming and anime fields and boast popular voice actors such as Lin Jing, Qin Qiege, Hua Ling, and Duoduo, who have garnered a good amount of popularity and influence in both Chinese and Japanese voice acting industries.

凭借优秀的业务能力奇响天外被米哈游相中，多位成员为《崩坏3》中的角色配音，其创始人彭博更是担任了《崩坏3》的配音总导演。
With their outstanding business capabilities, Qixiang Tianwai caught miHoYo's attention, and several of its members were chosen to voice characters in *Honkai Impact 3rd*. The founder, Peng Bo, even served as the voice acting director for the game.

林簌永远十八岁，她是《崩坏3》里的“大姐”无量塔姬子，《魔兽世界》的女祭司泰兰德-语风，《王者荣耀》的甜蜜少女公孙离，《斗罗大陆》的女王比比东。
Lin Su, forever 18 years old, is the voice behind "Big Sister" Murata Himeko in *Honkai Impact 3rd*, the priestess Tyrande Whisperwind in *World of Warcraft*, the sweet girl Gong Sunli in *King of Glory*, and the queen Bibidong in *Douluo Dalu*.

当然，林簌履历远不止这些，奇响天外的核心成员，B站20万粉丝拥有者，一个微博话痨，正经Coser、颇具魔法手艺的Vlog博主……（这段掐掉）
Of course, Lin Su's achievements go far beyond these roles. As a core member of Qixiang Tianwai, she has 200,000 followers on Bilibili, is a chatterbox on Weibo, a serious cosplayer, and a skilled vlogger with magical talents... (this part was cut off)

今天，我先放个考哥的图在这里，采访林簌（SUSU）同学，聊了聊她与她背后的奇响天外。
Today, I'll start by sharing a picture of Brother Kao here and then conduct an interview with Lin Su (SUSU) to talk about her and the story behind Qixiang Tianwai.

## Interview

**茶馆：简单介绍下自己吧。
Chaguan: Please introduce yourself briefly.**

SUSU：我是奇响天外工作室的配音演员兼配音导演，配音演员大家都知道啦(^o^)o可能很多人不知道配音导演的职能，我这里说一下吧，作为配音导演主要的职能主要是把控配音项目的整体表演风格和情感表达，和项目组、片方沟通，提供备选演员等等，算是一个配音项目的灵魂人物啦。
SUSU: I am a voice actor and voice director at Qixiang Tianwai Studio. Everyone knows voice actors (^o^)o Perhaps many people are unfamiliar with the role of a voice director, so let me explain. As a voice director, my main function is to control the overall performance style and emotional expression of a voice acting project. I communicate with the production team and the filmmakers, provide options for actors, and play a crucial role in the project.

**茶馆：接触配音，成为一名声优的契机是什么？
Chaguan: What was the opportunity that led you to get into voice acting and become a voice actor?**

SUSU：说出来你可能不信，是因为一部小说，我在一个偶然间听过了这部小说的广播剧之后就喜欢上了配音这个行业，然后开始参加一些业余的配音活动。之后，我结识了一位师姐，在她的引荐和鼓励下报名参加了一个配音培训班，然后慢慢开始正式接触这个行业。
SUSU: You might find it hard to believe, but it all started with a novel. I fell in love with the voice acting industry after casually listening to the audio drama adaptation of a novel. From there, I started participating in some amateur voice acting activities. Later, I met a senior in the field who recommended and encouraged me to join a voice acting training class. That's how I gradually started getting involved in this industry.

**茶馆：能告诉我们是什么小说吗？
Chaguan: Can you tell us which novel it was?**

SUSU：挺早了，08年的时候我看的，名叫《九功舞》，作者藤萍，少女向加上武侠类的题材，在当时还蛮红的，它是整个是一个系列，《九功舞》是九部作品之一。
SUSU: It was quite a long time ago, in 2008. The novel is called *Nine-Step Dance* by the author Feng Ping. It's a combination of a martial arts theme with a romance targeted at young girls. It was quite popular at the time and is part of a series of nine works.

**茶馆：有趣，那其实从业余时间开始算的话簌簌接触配音的时间也是比较长了，那么在你个人的配音生涯中，对你来说配过的印象最深刻的角色是哪一个？
Chaguan: Interesting! Considering that you've been involved in voice acting during your spare time for quite some time, could you share which role has left the deepest impression on you in your voice acting career?**

SUSU：其实挺多的，但最深刻的一定是《崩坏3》的无量塔姬子了，这个角色对我个人甚至整个职业生涯都有很大的改变吧，对整个奇响天外团队来说也有着很大的影响。
SUSU: There have been quite a few memorable roles, but the most impactful one would definitely be Murata Himeko in *Honkai Impact 3rd*. This character has had a significant impact on both my personal career and the entire Qixiang Tianwai team.

**茶馆：其实，有些粉丝经常会叫我们的无量塔姬子为姬子阿姨，不知道这一点你会介意吗？
Chaguan: Actually, some fans often refer to our Murata Himeko as "Auntie Himeko." Do you mind this?**

SUSU：其实会有一些介意的（虽然也没有非常在意）。
SUSU: To be honest, I do mind it a little (though I don't pay too much attention to it).

**茶馆：是时候祭出那张图了！
Chaguan: It's time to bring out that picture!**

SUSU：没有没有，其实算是站在角色角度的介意吧，因为姬子阿姨这个说法本身来自琪亚娜的一个吐槽，后面成为了一个梗被保留下来。梗这种东西你也知道，玩得多了其实也就没有太大的意义了，尤其是年龄梗这种。
SUSU: No, no, it's just a matter of being mindful from the character's perspective. The term "Auntie Himeko" originated from a joke by Kiana, and later became a meme that stuck around. You know how memes work; they lose meaning when overused, especially age-related ones.

站在我个人的角度，我还是希望大家能够更多注意到姬子身上的一些坚韧和引导性的品质，她成为女武神过程中的不屈以及最后的牺牲等，所以如果叫姬子老师的话我觉得可能更合适。
From my personal perspective, I hope everyone can pay more attention to Himeko's resilience and guiding qualities, her unwavering determination in becoming a Valkyrie, and her ultimate sacrifice. So, if someone calls her "Teacher Himeko," I feel it might be more appropriate.

再强调一下，28岁对普世女性来说正是一个发光发热的好年纪！
Let me emphasize again, 28 is a shining and vibrant age for women everywhere!

**茶馆：有没有想过当初没有当上配音演员自己会做些什么工作？
Chaguan: Have you ever thought about what job you would have pursued if you hadn't become a voice actor?**

SUSU：游戏公司的文案。
SUSU: I would have worked as a copywriter for a gaming company.

**茶馆：为啥？
Chaguan: Why is that?**

SUSU：因为我以前写过小说啊，但日更小说真的太需要灵感，所以后来放弃了。而且写小说嘛，一将功成万骨枯，你懂的。
SUSU: Because I used to write novels, but writing daily novels required a lot of inspiration, so I eventually gave it up. Also, writing novels is a path to sacrificing thousands of lives for fame, you know what I mean.

当然，将来哪天下岗了，我希望能去米哈游当文案，2333333。
Of course, if I ever get laid off in the future, I hope to work as a copywriter at miHoYo, hahaha.

**茶馆：当上正式配音演员后，你认为会很辛苦吗？
Chaguan: After becoming a professional voice actor, do you find it challenging?**

SUSU：其实配音不会让我觉得辛苦，哪怕配的不好，但是作为团队里的leader之一可能会让我觉得有些辛苦。因为我个人嘛还是喜欢做更纯粹的配音这件事儿，希望可以全身心的投入。
SUSU: Actually, voice acting itself doesn't make me feel burdened, even if my performance isn't perfect. But being one of the leaders in the team can be a bit challenging. Personally, I prefer to focus on the pure aspect of voice acting and hope to be fully devoted to it.

**茶馆：你看我也给你打了很多标签和TAG，这当然是我脑补的，所以还是希望正儿八经听一下你的喜好，一定得是最最最最最最的。
Chaguan: I've given you many labels and tags, but of course, they are just my imagination. So, let's hear about your genuine preferences, the absolute top ones.**

SUSU：其实我最喜欢工作了，有一段时间比较喜欢看漫画，尤其是老的漫画。高中时候我还想成为漫画家的，然后被残酷的扼杀在了摇篮里。具体情况是曾经有一个很喜欢的漫画家，一次偶然情况下我遇到了并疯狂表达了我的崇拜，然后这位大大一脸严肃的告诉我，做漫画家有可能会被饿死，吓哭。
SUSU: Well, my favorite thing is working. There was a time when I enjoyed reading manga, especially the old ones. In high school, I even wanted to become a manga artist, but that dream was cruelly crushed in its infancy. You see, there was this manga artist I admired a lot, and one day, I happened to meet them and expressed my admiration enthusiastically. However, this person, with a serious expression, told me that becoming a manga artist might lead to starvation, scaring me to tears.

**茶馆：好吧。聊聊奇响天外吧，现在大家都知道奇响天外是一家小有名气的配音工作室了，那么奇响天外当初是怎么成立的？
Chaguan: I see. Let's talk about Qixiang Tianwai now. Nowadays, everyone knows Qixiang Tianwai is a relatively famous voice acting studio. How was it established initially?**

SUSU：16年是我们正式注册的时间，14年在彭导的牵头下，我们起了奇响天外这个名字，相当于搞了个厂牌。当时我们团队就3-5个人吧，我是创始人之一。现在奇响天外团队大概了30多个人，其中配音演员大概占60%~70%的样子。
SUSU: We officially registered as a studio in 2016, but in 2014, under Director Peng's leadership, we came up with the name Qixiang Tianwai, which is like creating a brand. At that time, our team consisted of about 3 to 5 people, and I was one of the founding members. Now, Qixiang Tianwai has grown to have over 30 team members, with voice actors making up around 60% to 70% of the total.

**茶馆：有意思，我之前经常在粉丝群里看到不少粉丝经常称呼你们为奇穷天外，这是有什么梗吗。
Chaguan: Interesting. I used to see many fans calling you guys "Qiqiong Tianwai" (Qi-Poor Tianwai). Is there a story behind this?**

SUSU：因为我们真的很穷啊（就开个玩笑），我们团队基本上都是属于入行相对较晚的，整个国内来说这种情况在配音工作室上也算比较的少见，完全算是草根起家的。
SUSU: Well, we are indeed not very well-off (just joking). Most of our team members joined the industry relatively late, which is relatively rare for a voice acting studio in China. We can be considered as grassroots starting from scratch.

最早我们连办公场地都没有，“穷”是真的很出名23333。当然，现在慢慢慢慢的好起来了。
In the beginning, we didn't even have a proper office space, and the reputation of being "poor" became quite famous (laughs). Of course, things have been gradually improving now.

**茶馆：很好奇，上海除了咱们之外，活跃在游戏圈、动漫圈的配音工作室还有哪些？
Chaguan: Curious to know, besides us, what other voice acting studios in Shanghai are active in the gaming and anime circles?**

SUSU：音熊联萌、海天工作室这些应该算比较出名的，当然上海还有很多录音棚在游戏圈很活跃，因为早期上海译制厂的缘故，上海圈子本身的底蕴也比较的深，所以算是目前国内配音业务相对比较多的两个城市之一。
SUSU: There are some relatively well-known ones like Yinxiong Lianmeng and Haitian Studio. Of course, many recording studios in Shanghai are quite active in the gaming industry as well. Thanks to the early presence of Shanghai Dubbing Factory, the industry here has a deep foundation. Shanghai is considered one of the two cities in China with relatively more voice acting business.

**茶馆：奇响天外目前在中日双语配音业务的比重大概是？
Chaguan: Currently, what is the proportion of Chinese and Japanese bilingual dubbing projects at Qixiang Tianwai?**

SUSU：目前的话还是以中文为主，虽然我们团队里有不少可以配日语的演员在，但因为有大把的日本专业声优可以选择，所以整体这方面的需求并不会很多，再加上我们本身也是中国人，当然想以配中文为主，所以我们目前的发展肯定还是专注中文配音领域。
SUSU: Currently, the majority is in Chinese. Although we have several actors who can do Japanese dubbing in our team, the demand for this aspect isn't very high since there are plenty of professional Japanese voice actors available to choose from. Moreover, as we are Chinese ourselves, we naturally prefer to focus on Chinese dubbing. So, our current development is definitely centered around Chinese dubbing.

**茶馆：有一点很好奇，在为二次元游戏配音时的感觉是否回合其他作品存在不同？在这块，二次元角色会更强调或者更重视什么嘛？
Chaguan: I'm curious, is there any difference in the feelings when dubbing for two-dimensional games compared to other works? Are there any specific aspects that you emphasize or pay more attention to when it comes to two-dimensional characters?**

SUSU：其实这里我有个点特别想分享，也是关于我们团队目前的定位的。奇响天外目前给外界更多的一个标签可能是主要在日系风格的配音领域活跃，甚至有些认为我们只会配日系作品的声音出现。
SUSU: Actually, I have something particular to share here, which is also related to our team's current positioning. Qixiang Tianwai might be labeled more by the outside world as being active in the Japanese-style dubbing field, and some may even think that we only do voiceovers for Japanese-style works.

但实际上，奇响天外最早的作品是《三国杀（中期偏后的版本）》和很多三国题材的游戏，早期我们团队接过大概有几十个三国题材项目游戏的配音任务，光我自己在不同项目里配貂蝉这个角色的次数就不下10次，我们的团队成员也配了很多欧美风和国风的作品，针对每种游戏的不同风格，我们在表演方式上都会有不同的要求和呈现，所以也希望有更多不同风格的作品能被大家看到。
However, in reality, Qixiang Tianwai's earliest works were in *Three Kingdoms Kill* (a game with a theme from the Three Kingdoms period) and many other Three Kingdoms-themed games. In the early days, our team took on dubbing tasks for dozens of projects with Three Kingdoms themes. Personally, I have voiced the character "Diaochan" in different projects at least 10 times. Our team members have also worked on many works with Western and traditional Chinese styles. For each game's distinct style, we have different requirements and presentations in our performances. Therefore, we hope that more works with diverse styles can be seen by everyone.

**茶馆：配了10多个貂蝉的想法是什么样的。
Chaguan: How do you feel about voicing over 10 Diaochan characters?**

SUSU：那个时候刚刚入行嘛，很兴奋。其实就算是现在，我包括我们团队都对配音这件事保有长期兴奋感，几乎没有疲倦的说法。
SUSU: At that time, I was just starting in this industry, so I was very excited. Actually, even now, both I and our team maintain a long-lasting sense of excitement about voice acting, and there's hardly any sense of fatigue.

**茶馆：其实很好奇，因为我没进过录音棚，但看过一些声优访谈会觉得录音棚真的很好玩，简单跟我们分享一下从接到配音任务开始，在奇响天外这边的一个工作流程大概是？
Chaguan: Actually, I'm quite curious because I've never been inside a recording studio, but I've watched some voice actor interviews and it seems like recording studios are really fun. Could you briefly share the workflow at Qixiang Tianwai from receiving a voice acting task?**

SUSU：可以可以，就拿我们最熟悉的米哈游来举个例子吧。
SUSU: Sure, let's take miHoYo as an example since it's the one we are most familiar with.

首先米哈游应该是我们见过的在试音这块要求最严格的公司，他们的项目组会在很早期的就和我们团队沟通讨论配音和文案口语化方面的问题。
Firstly, miHoYo is the company we've encountered with the strictest requirements during the audition process. Their project team communicates with our team at an early stage to discuss voice acting and the adaptation of the script to spoken language.

然后流程基本上是试音、定人、正式配音这样一个内循环，试音阶段花的时间还是比较长的，双方需要花比较长的时间去确认角色定位和声音气质取向，而米哈游对每个角色基本上也是以业界比较高的要求去把关的。
The general workflow is trial recording, casting, and then the official recording in a cycle. The trial recording phase takes a relatively long time because both parties need to spend ample time to confirm the character's positioning and the direction of their voice and temperament. miHoYo sets high standards for each character, which is quite common in the industry.

试音OK之后就是选人，这里有一个模式叫做盲选，即只对声音不对人。因为有些游戏项目可能对配音演员的人气有较大的需求然后根据这个来选人，但这样其实无法完全保证最终的质量，所以我们通常采取盲选的形式，米哈游方面也很接受这一点。
After the trial recording is approved, they proceed to casting. There is a mode called "blind selection," where the decision is solely based on the voice without considering the person behind it. Some game projects may prioritize the popularity of the voice actor, but this approach may not guarantee the final quality. Therefore, we usually go for the blind selection approach, and miHoYo is accepting of this.

正式配音阶段其实业内都差不多吧，米哈游的蔡老板真的很严谨，我们接触的每个项目刚开始的阶段都会过来盯着。
During the official recording phase, the industry is more or less the same, but miHoYo's CEO, Mr. Cai, is very meticulous. At the initial stage of each project we work on, he personally oversees it.

**茶馆：你对奇响天外的公司的整体氛围满意吗？
Chaguan: Are you satisfied with the overall atmosphere at Qixiang Tianwai?**

SUSU：超满意。
SUSU: Extremely satisfied.

一直以来我们比较骄傲的点就是我们是完完全全草根起家的，一块砖一块砖垒起来的。在业内，我们的发展速度不算快，但是一步一个脚印走的很踏实。
We have always been proud that we started from scratch, building everything brick by brick. In the industry, our development might not have been the fastest, but we have been moving forward steadily, step by step.

你会发现我们公司的大部分人都是B站、微博的活跃人士，人均B站有房，这也源自我们在选人时候对“气场”的一个判断吧，虽然比较玄学，但还挺重要的。
You'll find that most of the people in our company are active on platforms like Bilibili and Weibo. On average, everyone at the company has a presence on Bilibili, and this stems from our judgment of "aura" when selecting people. It might sound mystical, but it's actually quite important.

**茶馆：聊一个比较敏感的话题，就中文配音这块。事实上，我个人的角度理解，中文配音这个圈子在国内是比较特别的，至少在游戏这个圈子里，似乎可能大概需求很足，但整体质量实际上并不稳定？所以很多项目会优先选择日配，林同学也有多年的配音经历了，怎么去看？
Chaguan: Let's talk about a somewhat sensitive topic, Chinese dubbing. From my personal perspective, the Chinese dubbing industry seems quite unique in China, especially in the gaming industry. It appears that there might be a significant demand for Chinese dubbing, but the overall quality is not stable. That's why many projects might prefer Japanese dubbing. Lin, you have several years of experience in voice acting. How do you see this situation?**

SUSU：这个我觉得可以分为几个点来说。
SUSU: I think there are several points to consider.

第1，选日配这件事其实我们非常能够理解，因为大多数人从小受到日本动画的熏陶，已经非常习惯日配，而且听母语和听外语的配音是完全不一样的感觉，语言的不同使得各国配音发声位置也不一样，日语轻巧的发声方式有时候更容易被接受，从厂商角度选择日配被喷的几率相对比较低（笑）。
Firstly, the preference for Japanese dubbing is understandable because most people have been exposed to Japanese animation since childhood and have become accustomed to it. Listening to your mother tongue and listening to a foreign language dubbing evoke completely different feelings. The differences in languages also lead to different voice production techniques in each country. Japanese voice acting, with its light and agile vocal approach, is sometimes more readily accepted. From the perspective of the companies, choosing Japanese dubbing lowers the risk of backlash (laughs).

第2，日本声优产业的工业化程度很高，专业的配音学校和机构很多，整体从业者数量超过六位数，而且就基本功来说也是业界领先的，无论是质量还是数量都很OK。而且人员不足也会带来可以选择的声音数量较少，这也是比较核心的一个问题。
Secondly, the Japanese voice actor industry is highly industrialized, with numerous professional voice acting schools and institutions. The number of professionals in the industry exceeds six figures, and they lead in terms of fundamental skills. Both in terms of quality and quantity, it's commendable. The shortage of professionals in Chinese dubbing also contributes to the issue of limited voice choices, which is a core problem.

第3，也是最重要的一点，中文配音也是不会认输的，我们正在慢慢摸索和发展，正在努力地朝着更适应现今作品的风格和方向前进，我希望大家能给我们成长的时间，中文配音会伴随着国产动画游戏一起成长起来的。
The most important point, thirdly, is that Chinese dubbing won't give up. We are slowly exploring and developing, striving to move forward in a way that suits the current style and direction of works. I hope everyone can give us time to grow. Chinese dubbing will grow together with domestically produced animation and games.

**茶馆：灵魂拷问结束了，最后整点轻松些的话题吧。19年在拿到米哈游的投资后，奇响天外后续后什么动作和调整吗？
Chaguan: The soul-searching has ended. Finally, let's discuss something more relaxed. After receiving investment from miHoYo in 2019, did Qixiang Tianwai have any subsequent actions or adjustments?**

SUSU：其实当时拿到米哈游的投资我们还是比较意外的，她们帮助我们度过了一个相对有些飘忽的时期吧。而站在奇响天外本身的角度，我们还是会安静做好自己分内的事，不会因为投资和一些其他缘故就改变团队的初衷，这点上太感谢米哈游对我们的包容和支持了！
SUSU: Actually, at that time, receiving investment from miHoYo was quite unexpected. They helped us get through a relatively uncertain period. From Qixiang Tianwai's perspective, we will continue to focus on doing our job well. We won't change our team's original intention just because of the investment or other reasons. We are really grateful for miHoYo's understanding and support!

**茶馆：最后，对你的粉丝们说点什么吧。
Chaguan: Lastly, please say something to your fans.**

SUSU：超感谢大家，谢谢大家能够一直多听听我的各种作品，也希望大家能够继续支持奇响天外，我们会坚持初心，和你们一起走得更远的！
SUSU: Thank you all so much! I'm grateful that you've been listening to my various works. I also hope that you'll continue to support Qixiang Tianwai. We will stay true to our initial aspirations and go further together with all of you!

## Notes

1. ↑ 考哥 *Kǎo gē*, "Brother Kao" is a nickname given by Chinese fans to the Japanese voice actor Sakurai Takahiro (櫻井 孝宏). 考 *Kǎo* is derived from the character 孝 (たか *taka*) in his name.