Perfection (DC Comics)

> I'm trying. I... trying to contact this Monitor Mind... transparent void... eternal... we're so small... yet so significant... how can it matter so much?
>
> Captain Adam

## Summary

**Monitor-Mind The Over-Void** is the Void beyond the Source Wall.

Monitor-Mind The Over-Void is a spaceless, timeless, trans-dual consciousness beyond contradictions. It is a Brahman-like figure encompassing in his mind the entire DC Universe.

## Stats

**Tier:** **1-A**

**Name:** Perfection, Monitor-Mind The Over-Void, Monitor-Mind, The Over-Void, The Void, God

**Origin:** DC Comics

**Gender:** Unknown

**Age:** Predates the concepts of time

**Classification:** God

**Dimensionality:** **Trans-dimensional**

**Power Range:** **High Trans-verse** (Imagined the higher/trans-dimensional civilization of the Monitors representing DC Comics as cosmic vampires. Erased the idea of Mandrakk. It is "a timeless supermind containing and resolving within itself all possible thoughts and contradictions", identifying as a depiction of God. Other structures (including both Heaven and Limbo) “get more and more archetypal the further out you get into the void, and the void is also the white page where things are drawn. Its a pure consciousness that underlies everything, being called god or the void. It contains everything—all good, all evil, all contradiction and all possibility, like the page of a comic)

**Travel Speed:** **Irrelevant** (Monitor-Mind The Over-Void is the spaceless and timeless Void where emerge the concepts of time and space as a result of the creation of the Universe. (Monitor-Mind The Over-Void is on a plane of existence beyond the Sphere of the Gods, transcending space and time)

**Combat Speed:** **Irrelevant**

**Reaction Speed:** **Irrelevant**

**Lifting Strength:** **Unknown**

**Punching Power:** **Unknown**

**Durability:** **High Trans-verse**

**Powers and Abilities:** Higher-Dimensional Existence, Trans-Dimensional Existence, Conceptual Manipulation, Transduality, Existence Erasure, Immortality

**Standard Equipment:** None

 **Intelligence:** Nigh-Omniscient

**Weaknesses:** Imperfection (Monitor-Mind The Over-Void created the Orrery of Worlds as a barrier to protect himself from the imperfectness of the DC Universe)

**Note:**

* **Note 1**:

There are many misconceptions on the relationship between the Presence (God), the Source and the Overvoid. The main one is that the Presence and the Source can not be related to the Overvoid, because :

* The Overvoid is the white page.
* "God" and "the Source" in Grant Morrison IGN interview on Final Crisis are "unclear", and therefore Grant Morrison was not referring to DC characters the Presence and the Source, but was explaining that the Overvoid is literally God and the Source.

Let's assume that Grant Morrison was explaining that the Overvoid is literally the God and the Source of the DC Universe, so was not relating the Overvoid to DC characters the Presence, as God, and the Source, when it's pretty obvious. But let's assume this (nonsensical) claim for this mental gymnastic.

In Final Crisis #7, Nix Uotan and Mandrakk mentioned God in relation to the Spectre, the Radiant (both described as the servants of God by Mandrakk) and the angels of Pax Dei (described as the army of God by Nix Uotan). As a reminder, we assume that Grant Morrison was explaining that the Overvoid is literally the God and the Source of the DC Universe.

*Come closer. I need to eat you raw! Sllubbrr. As I fed on these 'servants of God' [the Spectre and the Radiant] defenders of this universe.* - Mandrakk, Final Crisis #7.

*Behind me, the vengeful angels of the Pax Dei descend, the army of God!* - Nix Uotan, Final Crisis #7

So, if the Overvoid is the God and the Source of the DC Universe, then the (nonsensical) claim that 'the Presence is not above the Sphere of the Gods' is self-contradictory, as the Overvoid is God in the context of the belief system of the Spectre, the Radiant and the angels of the Pax Dei as stated Nix Uotan and Mandrakk. In other words, according to the (il)logic of this claim, the Overvoid is the aspect of God in the context of this belief system whose God is the Presence, assuming the misconception that the Presence is the Abrahamic God.

This means that the God of the Spectre, the Radiant and the angels of the Pax Dei is the Overvoid that they identify as the Presence in the context of their belief system. So, according to the (il)logic of this claim, the Presence is an aspect of the Overvoid, the Void beyond the Source Wall

This mental gymnastic debunks the (self-contradictory) claim that the Overvoid is not related to the Presence and the Source. It supports the fact that the Presence, the Source and the Overvoid are not the same (as commonly misinterpreted), but are three distinct "characters" co-existing beyond the Source Wall as one God.

* **Notes 2**:

As we saw above, it is a misconception that Monitor-Mind The Over-Void is not related to the Presence or the Source and that the Presence, the Source and Monitor-Mind The Over-Void are the same. The reason why the interpretation that the Presence, the Source and Monitor-Mind The Over-Void are three distinct "characters" co-existing beyond the Source Wall as one God is correct is because Monitor-Mind The Over-Void is Grant Morrison's understanding of God, i.e a spaceless, timeless, trans-dual consciousness beyond contradictions that he introduced in the DC Universe.

*This identification with a timeless supermind containing and resolving within itself all possible thoughts and contradictions, is what many people, unsurprisingly, mistake for an encounter with “God.” However, given that this totality must logically include and resolve all possible thoughts and concepts, it can also be interpreted as an actual encounter with God, so I’m not here to give anyone a hard time over interpretation.*

https://web.archive.org/web/20191214133401/https://www.newsarama.com/1425-all-star-memories-grant-morrison-on-all-star-superman-9.html

And as Grant Morrison explained, this "timeless supermind containing and resolving within itself all possible thoughts and contradictions" can be identified as God because of the fact he is beyond contradictions :

*Some people have the experience and believe the God of their particular culture has chosen them personally to have a chat with. These people may become born–again Christians, fundamentalist Muslims, devotees of Shiva, or misunderstood lunatics.*

And it is a fact that Monitor-Mind The Over-Void is Grant Morrison's understanding of God, as Grant Morrison stated that Monitor-Mind The Over-Void can be either identified as "god" or "the void".

*The Multiverse map places Earth in the middle, but the other structures (including both Heaven and Limbo) “get more and more archetypal the further out you get into the void, and the void is also the white page where things are drawn,” says Morrison. “It's kind of like in Buddhism where there's this pure consciousness that underlies everything, and you can call it god, you can call it the void. It contains everything—all good, all evil, all contradiction, all possibility. Just like the page of a comic. The first mark on the page could become anything. The mark is all possibility.”*

https://www.wired.com/2014/08/grant-morrison-multiversity-dc/

Hence the reason why that the claim the Overvoid is not related to the Presence and the Source is nonsensical understanding this, and especially because those "characters" are depictions of God in the DC Universe, in particular the Presence, the figure of God.