Episode 180

## EFAP #180

### Title

EFAP #180 - "Denims vs. Jay Exci: The disastrous state of Twitch streamers w/ Sitch & ShortFatOtaku"

### Guests

ShortFatOtaku
PSA Sitch

### Next Episode

Episode 181

> "'What does take pride in your work mean?' I don't know"
> - Denims
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**EFAP 180** is the one-hundred-and-eightieth episode of the Every Frame A Pause podcast

## Important Events

* Debut of Denims
* Debut of Denims' Mirror Universe Good Self
* The React War rages on
* Chud Logic foreshadowing

## Plot

Following AhRelevant's attempt in EFAP 179, MauLer, Rags, Fringy, and Dev assembled to take a look at Denims, the next streamer to take a shot at defending Hasan Piker from Jay's video about him freebooting other creator's videos

## Synopsis

> "This video is bad because you're taking the criticisms of morons who spend five minutes of their life typing a hate comment to you, okay? You should never take those people fucking seriously"
> - Denims, after spending an hour of her life making the same criticisms
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Naturally, Denims began with her playing the entirety of someone else's video while she left the room, with Fringy and Rags horrified that this time there wasn't even a chair onscreen, then continued to say nothing while she did her makeup, raising the question of why she didn't just start the stream afterwards. Thankfully, Dev was there to understand the Twitch lingo that would have been lost on the other guests. Similar to AhRelevant, Denims' streams were characterized by her talking directly into the mic, peaking the audio when she would squeal at something and even chewing her food into it. As the stream went on, her use of the word "like" as a filler word made Fringy become hyperaware of any time he said "like" himself, while Rags took issue with the unmade bed featured prominently in the background.

Denims defended using other people's videos as filler on the grounds that streamers are incentivized to never leave their stream and give a constant flow of content, and rebuffed the idea that they just play videos while they say nothing by explaining that they actually only do that sometimes. Dev was reminded of the times when he himself would watch react streamers, explaining that it was during a time when he was sad and lonely and just wanted the vicarious happiness from watching someone else chuckle at anime, and he stopped watching those streams when he stopped being sad. Denims' response to the accusation that this was stealing someone else' art was nothing more than, "Okay dude." Denims decried those who have "a certain idea of what should be or what ought to be," a statement that describes literally everybody, and put forth that it is the platform that should dictate what type of content is allowed, not anyone else. MauLer argued that nobody is dictating, just stating their own views on what they think is right, and Rags added that Denims would likely change her opinion on that if the platform deemed content she liked as being disallowed. Denims then wondered aloud if there even were any streamers who just watch things without commenting, apparently forgetting that she is one of those streamers. She advised anyone who took issue with such a thing to just DMCA strike the stream in question, while Rags, who has actually had to deal with DMCAs before, could not imagine a worse way to want it dealt with. Denims defended any lack of commentary by explaining that streamers don't have the luxury of being able to edit out dead air since they stream live, raising the question of why choose to be a livestreamer when you are unable to perform live. She accidentally self-reported by claiming that "you can't be that funny for that long," then decried people who criticize her commentary as not being funny themselves, when commentary is literally her job and not theirs. She guessed that people were already frustrated at her for not playing the video more, which left Rags curious as to why people would rather hear the video Denims is watching than Denims herself. Denims then instructed her chat not to use any emotes that were made by other creators because they weren't theirs to use, seemingly not able to make the connection between that principle and the topic at hand.

In response to Jay explaining that streaming someone else' video without transformative commentary is equivalent to just reuploading it, Denims disagreed, arguing that the mere act of watching it in a group is transformative, since people crave the community experience. Fringy pointed out that fair use exists as a concept due to its public utility and asked what the public utility of watching a show while other people also watch it would be, and MauLer answered that the public utility here would literally be pressing the play button. Denims was willing to concede that Jinx' videos were the laziest content one could make, and MauLer corrected that Jinx was still less lazy than streamers like her, since he was actually present for the whole video and put in the effort to upload, title, and even put the link to the original in the description. Denims asked if Jay took issue with other people profiting off of work that is not theirs then why not just do it himself so he can profit too. The only counter she could imagine Jay having was "I'm better than that," and then the only counter she had to that counter was "okay," and MauLer found it hilarious that she was not even able to argue against her own hypothetical, effectively losing an argument with herself. The roster was fascinated by seeing what would normally be internal thoughts play out spoken live onstream, with MauLer commenting that streaming can keep someone honest in that regard. Denims laughed at Jay having only just figured out that react content is low-effort, which MauLer corrected was only true about the way she does it and not about the genre as a whole, but she then defended reacting as a skill in its own right, which was true but irrelevant, since the crticism was of Hasan not reacting. MauLer's fears that Jay's joke about being jealous of Jinx' view count would be taken seriously were realized when Denims used that joke as proof that Jay was spite-driven, and accused Jay of having a direct emotional response then rationalizing his emotions after the fact, not realizing that that is just describing how thinking works.

Denims' chat wondered why Jay even cared how Hasan made his money, to which Fringy asked why care about how someone like Jeff Bezos makes his money, and MauLer simplified it down to why care about Jay's video. She recommended that if Jay message someone directly if he doesn't like how they react to his video, when the point being raised was that the onus was not on the original creator to have to tell others not to take from them. Denims mocked Jay's cactus analogy for how unfunny she considered it to be, then took her own swing at comedy by suggesting she leave while Jay's video plays, which Dev found a little bit funny while everyone else disagreed. She compared herself to a curator, contrasting watching her streams against the slog of having to search "funny videos" on YouTube, leaving MauLer baffled that she summed up her own job as just being a search bar. She described how it would be unreasonable to expect a customer service worker to work without breaks, when nobody said she was not allowed to take breaks, just not to keep the video running while on break. MauLer also found a customer service worker having to answer calls hardly comparable to playing a YouTube video while eating. Denims bemoaned that she spends no more than 5 minutes off camera (she had been shown leaving for 15) and loses a quarter of her viewers, which Rags found humorous since it suggests her own fans don't care enough to wait 5 minutes for her. She conceded that Hasan has a big enough audience that he can just take the loss and not freeboot, an odd thing to concede given Hasan was the one being criticized. She agreed with her chat that react content is as old as time since news channels react to clips, once again ignoring the distinction between providing commentary for something and merely letting it play, though even she had to acknowledge that news channels legally have to ask for permission to use those videos and often pay those who provide them, not seeming to notice that that completely defeated her point. When someone in her chat said it's not the other video's creator's job to entertain your audience while you leave, Denims agreed, stating both views are valid, which baffled Rags and Fringy since that view was directly contradictory to hers. Denims then agreed that the YouTuber has a better case here than Hasan, but just carried on as if that was not damning for Hasan. Around this point Sitch switched his assessment of Denims from malicious back to stupid, while Rags began to hypothesize she had multiple personalities, some stupid and some evil.

Denims explained that when you pause a video, audience members will leave, to which MauLer and Rags said let them leave if they're not there for you and what you bring to the table. Denims' chat asked why Jay wasn't grateful for Hasan reacting at all, and Denims shrugged that Jay did not like being stolen from, "or whatever." She went on to explain that sometimes someone's mind can be so preoccupied that it makes it hard to focus on their job, and Fringy countered that people have to control that when you're on the job, referencing the *Simpsons* episode where the neighborhood poorly reconstructs Flanders' house. Denims joked that Hasan should just leave the room while watching Jay's video, a joke she had already made, and this time not even Dev found it funny. Bizarrely, she then claimed that having to pause the video frequently to avoid being accused of freebooting forced her to be bad faith since she could not listen to the whole video before commenting on it, leaving everyone baffled both at her describing her own arguments as bad faith and at the idea that it was not possible to tackle smaller arguments one at a time or rewind if you miss something. When a chat member asked why watch it on stream if she had nothing to add, Denims singled him out and checked his account history to shame him, before insisting he wait because she was about to make her second point. A look back at the clip, however, showed she just went back to skimming chat after her "first" point. She told Jay that it was unfortunate that he was the unlucky one whose video played while Hasan was offscreen but that is not the case most times, forgetting that even when he was onscreen he still barely had anything to say. Denims read her chat defending Hasan by saying he finds a clip for people to watch when he goes anywhere (the thing being criticized), as if playing a YouTube video for someone is a service. Denims recalled how she had to ask people to stop sending her FD Signifier videos because she became too enthralled in them to comment on them, an odd claim given she had previously said that merely watching something with other people made it a different experience. She described how chat kept bugging her to watch things, and the roster expressed sympathy for how hard it must be for her to have people asking her to do stuff.

Denims explained that Hasan theorizing that the homeowner was disabled was him attempting to defend them from chat mocking their living situation, but another look at the clip showed no suggestion of Hasan responding to chat. When Jay asked how being disabled would explain having two toilets next to each other, Denims was bewildered that Jay would think putting them next to each other was an intentional choice, apparently unaware that toilets have to be installed and don't just grow out of the ground. She became furious at Jay finding Hasan's joke about the two toilets being a "flex" half-baked, and had to justify it by crafting an admittedly funnier joke about having one toilet for pooping and one for peeing, which Hasan did not say. This led Rags to theorize that all Hasan viewers enjoy him because they just make up what he really means in their heads. Denims then took the time to explain how she considered being nicer, but realized that people won't acknowledge that generosity and so it was not even worthwhile, leaving everyone concerned that they were watching a supervillain origin story.

Denims adamantly tried to defend each piece of commentary Hasan made, when the overall point Jay was making was the lack of commentary, and when Jay concluded that Hasan spent less than 2 minutes commenting as he let a 14-minute video play, Denims shouted in defense that Hasan was eating, which changed nothing at all. She figured Jay would understand more if he was a react streamer, unaware that not only does Jay do react streaming both on EFAP and on his own, but also started as a channel primarily dedicated to reacting to CinemaSins videos. Denims shot down Jay's claim that Hasan was using his content to entertain his audience, then agreed with someone in chat saying that other people's content is what the audience wants. She accused Jay of coping, and doubted that Hasan playing his video without credit could have negatively affected him since YouTube and Twich are different platforms, as if someone could not use both sites. She thought she caught Jay when she realized he had not linked to Hasan's stream, not understanding that Jay had no obligation to, having already been plenty transformative and cited that it was from Hasan. Denims lost her mind at the suggestion that Jay wanted Hasan to pay him back, oonly to realize Jay was actually saying he did not want any money, then unironically argued that Jay was compensated in exposure, her chat bolstering this point by saying Hasan streaming someone else' video could make their career, the operative word being "could." Denims brought up how Hasan has no issue with her playing his VODs on her stream, a statement that would become ironic given what Hasan would end up saying next week. When she saw Jay's tweet paraphrasing the the often-cited defense of Hasan's $3 million McMansion that it is fine for a socialist to be wealthy as long as that wealth is the fruit of their own labor and not someone else's, she spent several seconds in silence trying to figure out what it meant, only to move on with no response. Denims laughed when she saw Hasan stop Jay's video right before Jay could get any credit, admitting that she was guilty of the same and it was fair to criticize, but then switched to rationalizing it since it makes sense to consider the video over when credits play, to which Sitch corrected that the point of credits... is to give credit. Denims laughed at the suggestion that Hasan could do the same thing he did to Jay's video to others as well, despite the fact that he does indeed do that. Just like AhRelevant, Denims was fooled into thinking Jay had admitted Hasan's coverage gave his video a huge spike in views, failing to read the actual numbers and see that that spike was 200 on a video that already had hundreds of thousands of views.

At this point Denims left the room, and paused the video not because it was the right thing to do, but so Jay would not get mad. She returned to Jay addressing arguments made in the comments of his stream, and took issue with Jay interpreting a comment that read "a lot of streamers just watch random videos to react to while they eat so I don't feel like it's that bad if he does this" as an appeal to popularity... which it was, instead interpreting the argument as everybody needs to leave stream sometimes, which the comment did not say. She expressed indignation at people who don't steelman others' arguments, which the gang found ironic coming from her, then compared leaving her chat without something to watch with leaving behind a crying baby. When someone asked about a hypothetical feud between YouTubers and Twitch streamers, she claimed Twitch streamers were more powerful, then admitted that YouTubers have the right and ability to DMCA her streams if they so chose. She laughed along with her chat mocking Jay for being more upset at having his content exploited than Gordon Ramsey is at having the same done to his multimillion dollar show, as if it was unreasonable for a YouTuber to care more about their source of income being undercut than someone who is already rich, then famously claimed that she did not know what it means to take pride in one's work. When Jay listed several things a streamer could do if they have to leave their stream, Denims said she could not do two of them, then ignored the rest.

Her argument that Jay should not have bothered addressing comments since commenters are all morons was followed up by a compilation of her making the exact same arguments the comments were. She suggested instead that Jay address criticisms he had seen a lot of, which was literally what the comments portion of his video did, and even suggested a counterargument she felt Jay should have made instead (that "react harder" should more accurately be summed up as "react at all"), when Jay had in fact made that exact counterargument, She considered the ending of Jay's video where he said the issue was not with slighting him personally but with the practice as a whole to be genuinely good criticism and what the video should have been about, forgetting that Jay had explained that point multiple times throughout the video and she had directly argued against it when he did. Denims, ironically, claimed Hasan responded poorly because he is not a debatebro and therefore is not good at arguing, a defense that Fringy noted he had seen from other people before and which Sitch found insane since his main shtick is arguing politics. Denims was annoyed at Jay asking for the opinions of other YouTubers she considered anecdotal, apparently forgetting it was in direct response to Hasan saying most YouTubers love when streamers play their videos. She figured the results were biased anyway since Jay's friends would of course agree with him, a shaky claim made even shakier by the fact that not everyone he asked had the same stance as him, and also considered the question leading since it asked about the specific thing Hasan was doing rather than ask broadly what they were okay with, a question that could have likely not even gotten a relevant answer. Denims then polled her own chat to ask if they would have watched Jay's video of their own accord, which even she agreed was a primed question given she had spent the past hour telling her chat how awful it was

### Mirror Universe Denims Debates Jay

> "I already agreed with this"
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> "Okay then I'm confused, cuz it sounded to me like you were saying the opposite"
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> - Denims and Jay
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Denims ended up having a livestreamed debate with Jay, moderated by a streamer named ChudLogic. In her stream leading up to the debate, she once again played an episode of *Hell's Kitchen* while barely making any commentary and even periodically leaving her chair, mocking the idea that Jay might criticize this for being non-transformative... because it was. This continued throughout almost the entirety of a Vox video that she played while out of the room, after which she expressed interest in pretending to watch it on her phone like Hasan does, before correcting that she meant actually doing it rather than pretending. Once in the debate with Jay, Denims more or less agreed with every point Jay had made with barely any pushback, in stark contrast with her demeanor in her original stream. This led to the debate being fairly short, and Jay coming away from it thinking everything had been settled. Perhaps the most most egregious instance was her saying the video made her consider being more careful playing other people's videos onstream without being transformative, when she literally mocked Jay's stance both after she was done with the video and literally earlier in that very stream. After watching the debate, MauLer and the gang concluded that this must have been her good counterpart from a Mirror Universe, as evidenced by her bed being on the opposite side of the room. However, Denims' evil self still held out, and she came away from the debate viewing Jay as having agreed with her rather than her with Jay.

At this time Sitch caught onto a clip of Denims comparing asking her not to play other people's videos when she leaves the room to AdBlock for YouTubers, and questioned why she considered AdBlock to be a bad thing, since the usual cited reason is that it deprives the YouTuber of the revenue they get from ads, so surely playing their video on another platform where they are deprived not only of the ad revenue but also of the algorithm bump would be even worse

### Denims Deems Jay Optically Cringe

Despite seemingly agreeing with Jay on all but one small point during their debate, Denims felt compelled to make a video in response to Jay's, the delivery of which she considered deranged and cringe. She listed its two biggest issues as it being seemingly spite-driven and it being boring, and MauLer figured that if those were the worst things that could be said about it then it must be pretty good. Rags was at least proud that she finally made her bed.
Denims once again argued that it was lowkey ableist of Jay to not realize Hasan was defending who he believed to be a disabled homeowner, and it was bad faith of Jay to assume ableism on Hasan's part, despite her assuming it on Jay's. She once again criticized Jay for reading comments at all, then changed her steelman of the aforementioned "a lot of streamers just watch random videos" comment to now be that it was unnecessary to single out Hasan rather than talk about the topic broadly, despite the fact that Hasan was the one who did this to Jay and that Jay did talk about the topic broadly as well. This time, Denims agreed with all of the alternatives Jay suggested but one, ending the stream altogether, and focused on that one as the reason why she felt the video came off as spite-driven. She agreed that the point Jay made was to react at all rather than react harder, despite having disagreed with it before, but still took issue with Jay saving that point until the end. A look back at Jay's video showed that he made the point one minute into the video. She also agreed that it was "fucked up" for streamers to essentially steal other people's content to entertain their audience for them, but explained that it will probably never stop, and Rags eagerly awaited the day that Twitch faces legal trouble for it and they do in fact have to stop.

Denims once again argued that Twitch's chat made it a fundamentally different experience than the video on YouTube, apparently unaware that YouTube has premiere chats that function the same way. She put forth that most of the time chat is actually funnier than the streamer themselves, and Sitch responded that if chat is what is doing the transforming and not the streamer then that means the streamer is exploiting the chat as well. Denims argued that YouTube comments are not comparable to live chat, and MauLer pushed back that if anything YouTube comments are better, since the ones that are voted higher appear higher up and they can be whole paragraphs rather than just blurbs. She still conceded that chat does not transform the content, but that it can incentivize people to choose the Twitch stream over the original, not realizing that that makes her case even worse since that proves Twitch streamers are taking eyes off of the creator who actually put in the work. When she yet again compared herself to a curator, MauLer asked how an algorithm geared to the specific user was a worse option than just someone else choosing videos for them, and Sitch added that actual curators had to pay money for the things that they curated. Denims once again conceded that streamers were wrong to do this, but portrayed her video as "a case study in perception," feeling Jay did not make his point in a convincing manner, when more likely it was just her and streamers like her who could not grasp what Jay was saying.

The comments on Denims' video were not particularly kind to it, but one of the few ones singing its praises (with a whopping 16 likes) was pinned by Denims herself. Jay, still a bit too nice for his own good, commented the following -

> "I would suggest we talk about this again, Denims... or not, you seem pretty locked in on all this so it might be entirely pointless. Ultimately considering your position beforehand I suppose you saying there are good points in the video but you just don't like bits of it is a relatively good result"
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## Trivia

* Denims' cat has the same name as Adam's, Wormy.
* Denims would be the first to kill and eat her friends during the apocalypse, because she is incentivized to do so
* The only camaraderie to be found between Denims and Rags is that they're both cloths, and there's even a Stitch holding them together
	+ Unlike a denim cloth though, a strip of Denims has no practical applications
* Denims is in possession of a solid gold backpack worth $2,500. When she travels, she can break off a small piece of the backpack and use it as currency
* Sony Vegas has a built-in safety featurethat prevents Denims videos from being too long, as she is so dense it would crash the software
* Denims' eyelashes are so large that sometimes they lift her off the ground when she blinks too fast, this will lead to her bedsheets being blown around while she sleeps, which is why her bed is often unmade. Most of the time they get tangled with her hair
* The average person replaces every atom in their body every seven years. Denims replaces every atom in her brain every seven seconds, becoming an entirely new person with entirely new arguments. The visual indicator for this mental metamorphosis is her sitting in a different position on her table (left end, right end) or if her bed has been made

## Quotes

* "You know what I mean?" - Denims, often
	+ "This is so cringe"
* "Troo!" - Denims, when something is false
* "Their *diction* is like a work of *fiction*?... It is *depressive*, how they are *expressive*?... It is *shit*?" - Rags
* "He's like the villain, there's the supervillain, then there's, hm, the hypervillain, alright?"
"He's like the one henchman who doesn't have any particular personality other than being just a mook henchman, but he's got like a scratch on his face, some very minor physical characteristic that sets him apart from the others"
"And he has like an axe, or an interesting history where he's from, particular country that's different."
"Yeah if he speaks at all- oh I think that's already taking it too far. We don't know anything about his history. He's just around, he's just distinguishable from the others"
"Oh I didn't mean like complicated, like he's a pirate (laughs) or something... he's my pirate henchman you know, he's a little more special than the average henchman."
"Being a pirate..."
"... he has a hook... hand"
"... for this analogy is actually pretty accurate to the uh-"
"Ah, ah nice"
 - MauLer and Rags on AhRelevant
* "Have you guys ever watched Steve1989MREInfo?"
"No, I did see Jurassic Park though"
 - Dev and Rags
* "There's not even a chair"
"There's not even a chair!"
 - Fringy and Rags
* "Maybe this is just me, maybe I'm just an old man, but I hate zoomer lingo"
"Oh I thought you were gonna say you hate Sitch"
 - Dev and MauLer
* "I think react streamers are fucking cance-"
"Wha- we are literally react streamers"
"-wait, not us, but everyone else!"
 - Dev and MauLer
* "And then it's like, they leave something to watch and people are like, 'Why, why would you- oh my god, you're literally stealing content!' and it's like, okay dude." - Denims
* "The people who we react to, just call them pre-act streamers" - Rags
* "It feels like certain people have a certain idea of what should be or what ought to be" - Denims, describing literally everybody
* "At least we got a tautology out of you, which means it's technically accurate" - Rags
* "Are there streamers who just watch content and say nothing?" - Denims, forgetting that she exists
* "And if you have a problem and you're like, 'I don't want you to be able to watch my content on your stream,' then you can just fucking send a fucking DMCA notice or whatever" - Denims
* "You can't be that funny for that long" - Denims
* "If you close your eyes and you listen to her, and you replace her voice with Hasan's in your head" - Sitch
* "I bet you there's someone in here who's like, 'can this stupid bitch just press play?' Just watch 30 minutes of the video [unintelligible] How are we gonna get through this hour?"
"So people would rather watch the thing you're watching than watch you. Interesting, Denims, but carry on."
 - Denims and Rags
* "Cuz Chat, just so you know, don't take other people's emotes. For the people in here who make emotes and stuff or publish them, don't take other people's emotes" - Denims
	+ "So if we can just make our videos in emote form, she'll never steal em" - Rags
* "If a reactor hasn't added anything and watching their reaction is basically just the same experience as watching whatever they're reacting to, then essentially they're just reposting something someone else made to their audience, reaping the rewards of someone else's work under the guise of reacting to it"
"Wrong. This is literally wrong. If anything, this video should've been edited, because I know videos that are this long tend to take like months to make, or at least a month to make, from talking to like, more like video essayists and stuff [chews directly into mic] sorry, mkay, there was like some chips in my teeth, um, what was I gonna say? Oh, yeah... this should've been very evident, from like the amount of people who wanted to watch like *Death Note* onstream, or the amount of people who wanna watch like *Master Chef* or *Hell's Kitchen* onstream, like, it stops being one person making content, like a person making react content, and it starts being like a bunch of people watching something as like friends almost"
 - Jay and Denims
* "The public utility is her simps are funding the socialist revolution one donation at a time. They'll get there eventually guys" - Dev
* "This guy, obviously this is more lazy content or whatever but like, first of a-"
"Incorrect. Jinx put more effort into his reactions than a lot of you guys do, because he actually had to edit it, and then upload it, and title it and shit-"
"And he was always present for the entirety of the videos that he would watch"
"-and then, he would get the links, and he would- yeah he would always make sure to react, it's just that his reactions were shit" - Denims, MauLer, and Fringy
* "Is it literally just you don't want someone else to profit because you're putting in so much hard work and they aren't? Then why don't you do what they're doing? Do you know what I mean, like this is the thing that I don't really understand. Cuz it's not like they're benefitting at like, your-.... maybe on YouTube it's a little bit different because if people watch their video instead of yours" - Denims
* "These videos are so boring that like, surely like, who cares? And if you really think that like this content is so easy and it's fucked up that they're profiting so much, then why don't you just make the content? S'like, 'well I'm better than that!' and it's like... okay?" - Denims
* "You know how you have an inner monologue where you try and figure things out about what you ought to do and what you shouldn't do, like your principles? Y'know you examine your beliefs. But like you don't often do it just speaking, live onstream, and then figuring it out as you go"
"Something like half of all people don't have that, so who the fuck knows?"
"(nervous laughter) You can't say that about women"
 - Fringy, Dev, and Rags
* "Dental plan!" - MauLer, on rumination
* "You're not allowed to use monosyllabic words, that's bad. Don't use short words, that is bad. That means you are bad at communicating"
"Less Chinese streamers, is what Fringy's implying"
 - Fringy and Rags
* "We were talking about people can't visualize images in their mind, she can't understand like morality in her mind"
"That's just called being a bad person"
 - Sitch and Rags
* "Does this guy really think he's making a discovery finding out that react content is low-effort?" - Denims
* "I know react content is low-effort, because I've made fuckin videos. Videos take so much more time, they take like hours and hours and hours of time" - Denims
* "I still think that react content is easier"
"Well with the way you do it, for sure"
 - MauLer
* "It feels like most people have a direct emotion about something, and then, they try to come up with some rationalization on why their emotion is valid, rather than the other way around" - Denims, describing how all thoughts work
* "When you said 'gum and nuts, together at last,' I thought of a horny lady at a retirement home" - Rags
* "'Animators are notorious about being non-content-brained.' I know!" - Denims
* "She's the character that you meet sort of early on in a movie, who eventually goes on their arc and changes, and becomes a better person by the end of the movie. She's that person, sans arc" - Rags
* "'This sounds like weird jealousy, why does this dude care about what other people are doing?' Yeah"
"Why do you care that Jeff Bezos makes like 200 billion dollars- well, not that he makes, but that he's worth that much?"
"Well surely the better one to say is why does she care what Jay is doing?"
 - Denims, Fringy, and MauLer
* "How would Fringy comment on anything if he didn't have wikipedia"
"I wouldn't, Wikipedia is very helpful"
 - Chat and Fringy
* "Oh, I dunno if anyone is gonna care, but apparently *Bad Boys 4* is no longer happening because of what happened with the Oscars" - MauLer
* "No, you know what'd be really funny? Getting up and going to the bathroom and letting it play. That would be funny! [extensive laughter]" - Denims
* "You don't have to go on YouTube and be like, '(sigh) funny video, good video to watch, want to watch video while eating'" - Denims
* "That must be a hit on the ego, to know that people aren't able to wait 5- people aren't willing to wait literally 5 minutes for you to come back" - Rags
* "'Reaction content is as old as civilization itself. Mainstream news like Cucker Tarlson are just reacting to the events of the day and sometimes even include clips from Twitter that they didn't film themself.' TRUUUEuh! Most clips that you find on like CNN or MSN or any of those fucking news organizations, usually they find clips on Twitter and then they have to- I think legally, they have to message these people and be like, 'is it alright that we use your video, in like Channel News or whatever" - Denims
* "Maybe she's like Moon Knight, she has multiple personalities, one of them is just the evil one and the other is just the dumb one" - Rags
* "'I feel like he usually finds a clip for us to watch when he goes anywhere.' Yeah" - Denims on Hasan
* "'Shouldn't this guy be happy that Hasan reacted to his content at all?' He doesn't like that he walked off at his content and he's stealing his content, or whatever..." - Denims
* "'Why isn't the reactor laughing at my jokes?!'"
"Because he's not present!"
 - Denims and Rags
* "Have you guys ever been at work before, and then you get a messa-" "Yes, WE have!" - Denims and Rags
* "Do you guys ever think thoughts, and you're thinking about those thoughts so thinkingly, that you stop paying attention to what's going on around you? Does that ever happen to you guys?"
"Sometimes it happens, but it turns out I just repeated something MauLer and Fringy said"
 - Sitch and Rags
* "The true fuck-you would be for Hasan to not even watch this video onstream, OR for Hasan to watch the video onstream and go to the bathroom the whole time [cackle]" - Denims, making the same joke a second time
* "I literally can't even wait til the end of the video to make my commentary, otherwise, I'm gonna be called another lazy react streamer, who isn't saying anything. So I literally have to be bad faith whatever-the-fuck, and pausechamping and saying my opinions all the way through... do you know what I mean?" - Denims
* "I literally can't even wait til the end of the video to make my commentary, otherwise, I'm gonna be called another lazy react streamer, who isn't saying anything. So I literally have to be bad faith whatever-the-fuck, and pausechamping and saying my opinions all the way through... do you know what I mean?" - Denims
* "We, if we miss a sentence, or talk over one, can just give it the ol rewind"
"Wait wait, we don't have like a time machine or something"
 - MauLer and Rags
* "'why watch it on stream then if you can't add anything to it?' WELL, Wade Corall, I see this is your first message here, or at least for today it is you- no, it is your first message ever, if you could wait for two seconds, if you could WAIT- Wade, haha, get it, wordplay- for just two seconds, okay? Uuuummm... I was literally gonna say my second point, okay?" - Denims, looking up the info on a chatter who disagreed with her
* "I understand that you got unlucky, Jay Exci, and that Hasan happened to go to the bathroom when your video was playing, but like 99% of probably his content he is like hardcore Pausanabi reacting" - Denims
* "'I feel like he usually finds a clip for us to watch when he goes anywhere' yeah" - Denims
* "Let it be known, that I want to go to my little doggy grave one day, never having to have said, 'when I'm streaming *Hell's Kitchen*'... not counting this part where I reference saying that thing hypothetically" - Rags
* "'Three hour video essay plus podcast plus video joking about it plus tweets and now this video?' I know"
"So, you don't know, because what Jay did was stream a parody, and then talk about how in a video that Jay will make fucking what, six months later because he's busy with all kinds of projects, it'll just summarize the points made in the stream, and that's what was done. But for some reason, through Chinese Whispers it ends up being like, 'oh, Jay made 10,000 streams and 16 videos and 10 years later made 17 more videos with Nazis, I dunno like, it's crazy.'"
 - Denims and MauLer
* "What's the disability that makes you go, 'I need to install a toilet next to my fucking toilet!'?"
"... WHAT?"
 - Jay and Denims
* "The fact that DJ Spit has these internal struggles, it like elevates him into a position above these two chucklefucks, right, who it's just an empty echo inside of their head, and they don't even have two things bouncing around in there to meet and conflict"
"Right, because for DJ Spit to not know what to think, he needs to be able to think"
 - Rags and Fringy
* "Does he think that the homeowner literally chose to build those two toilets next to each other?" "Well, someone did!" - Denims and Fringy
* "Are you cereal... is he serious?"
"No you have to commit to cereal or serious"
 - Denims and Rags
* "**WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS VIDEO!!!**"
"This is why you move away from your microphone whenever you scream"
 - Denims and Fringy
* "When Hasan said that Russia would never invade Ukraine, what he really meant was Russia would invade Ukraine, tomorrow" - Rags, applying Denims' teachings
* "'Denims just reads her chat, and steals all the comments, just like a stupid dumb egirl'"
"I will Chad Yes that right now"
 - Denims and Dev
* "I was like, 'Maybe I'm the asshole,' you know what I mean? Maybe I should be nicer, you know? But then I was like, people don't even like, honestly, like, it feels like, in like, certain spaces online, nobody even cares when you're generous, so like, why should I bother?"- Denims
	+ "She's the anti-Spider-Man" - Rags
	+ "One of the greatest heroes in fiction, Mumen Rider, as he would say, it's not about winning or losing, it's about me taking you on right here and [right now]" - Fringy
* "In total, Hasan ended up not even spending 2 minutes talking as he let my 14-minute video play in full. He's very clearly leaning on my video to entertain his audience for him in this situation"
"This is really just like a cope video... HE'S EATING!"
 - Jay and Denims
* "If in a shocking twist of character Hasan offered to financially compensate me for the video-"
"......... WOW! WOW! WOW! Wow! Wow! Oh my copium! Oh my lord, dood! No shot, dood! There it is! No shot dood! No shot, Hasan! Honestly Hasan should compensate me, Hasan! What is happeninguh? Yo, Hasan owes me money dood, I know he owes me money! I know he owes me motherfuckin money dood. Okay guys, let's raise up a couple hundred dollars to give to Jay, in response to, y'know, me stealing the content, because now 400 people are not gonna give him views"
"-of mine he freebooted, I wouldn't take his money."
"OH he said he wouldn't take his mone- I'm sorry, okay, okay okay okay okay, I apologize this is streamer brain, this is strimmer bren, there we go, okay okay"
 - Jay and Denims
* "All exposure is good exposure"
"Then take your top off"
 - Denims and Rags
* "A socialist can buy whatever they want so long as it's the fruits of their own labour right? So long as wealth wasn't achieved by exploiting other people's labour.......... Hang on a second"
" . . . . . . . . "
 - Jay on Twitter, and Denims' counterargument
* "[pained laughter] [drawn out wail]" - Denims, upon finding out Jay got 200 extra views from Hasan stealing from him
* "This person would never make a video on me, you wanna know what?. . . . . . . . . you wanna know why? Cuz there's no way anyone is gonna watch me for fuckin 3 hours stunlocked" - Denims
* "Well of course Jay is furious, look, I mean that's just a normal-colored light. Jay's skin is just flushed with color" - MauLer
* "I have so little respect for people who don't steelman other content creators" - Denims, describing herself
* "'Is Twitch streamers vs YouTubers gonna become the next thing?' I mean, I think the Twitch streamers will win, we have more power" - Denims
* "People like people who are good faith and genuinely feel a certain way" - Denims
* "Hasan is just not good at making arguments, cuz he's not a debatebro"
"Can we also just point out, Tweedle Dum just said Tweedle Dee doesn't know how to make arguments"
 - Denims and MauLer
* "People do this, they just throw out- people don't understand these fallacies. They use them, but they don't understand them"
"Fringy, why are you gaslighting them?"
 - Rags
* "We're really doing anecdotes? [huff]" - Denims
* "Also, who? omegalol"
"'Who, omegalol' Is that an appeal to authority?"
 - Denims and Rags
* "Acknowledging that you're stealing is not... un-stealing" - Rags
* "Are straight women okay? That guy just looks like an average dude! That was just an average looking dude! She's simping so hard dood!"
"Yeah, maybe he's a good person. you prick!"
 - Denims and Rags
* "Oh, my keyboard is off"
"You're this far into your stream and you realize your keyboard isn't even working"
 - Denims and Rags
* "He looks mad about it dood"
"No he doesn't, he's mid-blink"
 - Denims and Rags
* "'Twitter's the only place where you can say "I like pancakes," and you'll get people saying like, "Oh so you hate waffles"'" - Denims, describing herself
* "I dunno how Hasan does it where he watches the videos on his phone? When he's gone. I do not do that shit bro, I'm gonna be honest I do not do that shit, that is smart though, that is smart. I should start *pretending* like I do that... or *actually* start doing it dude." - Denims
* "It's like shitting on the electric company"
"... like the band?"
 - Rags and Sitch
* "The thought that comes to mind is a good ol quote from *Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith* from Anakin Skywalker" - Fringy
* "They don't want to have to do the effort of going and scrolling through YouTube, and clicking on recommendeds, they want a streamer, who-"
"Effort?"
 - Denims and Jay
* "For a while I literally didn't understand why people watch me" - Denims
* "If you are someone who is spending more than 2 seconds writing a YouTube comment about why you dislike someone or something so much, I do not value or respect your opinion" - Denims
* "I think it's unnecessary, it adds absolutely nothing to the video"
"You don't think your job is necessary"
 - Denims and Rags
* "That is interesting, she's both vapid and dense at the same time" - Rags
* "I think it's fucked up that streamers essentially steal content and use it as background noise whenever they can't or don't want to entertain chat. However, I also recognize, it's probably never going to stop happening"
"Oh it's gonna stop, honey. It's gonna fucking stop when a corporation says, 'Twitch, get your shit together, or we will sue your ass into oblivion,' and then it's gonna be like YouTube where you have to tiptoe around on broken glass every time you do something like this, and sister that is a world you are not fucking prepared for"
 - Denims and Rags
* "I am the least biased person because I am both a react streamer on Twitch, and someone who makes pre-prepared content on YouTube" - Denims, accidentally describing Jay, and Fringy, and Metal, and MauLer
* "I would suggest we talk about this again, Denims... or not, you seem pretty locked in on all this so it might be entirely pointless. Ultimately considering your position beforehand I suppose you saying there are good points in the video but you just don't like bits of it is a relatively good result" - Jay's comment on Denims' video