YenzenIRL

> "We've seen some really extreme reactions to the trailers for the new *Cats*"
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**YezenIRL** is a YouTuber who makes videos about *Game of Thrones*.

### On Forgiving *Game of Thrones*

MauLer, Rags, DasBoSchitt, and guest Mista GG first encountered YezenIRL on EFAP 56, where they took a look at his video **"Forgiving Game of Thrones: An Unpopular Opinion**". " We should forgive the game of thrones for the last season.

toxic fans think they know the media better than the writers

if we are critical about media we should also be critical of our opinions

we should step back as a culture and examine ourselves

toxic fans always have had habit of going after media when it didn't go as they wanted it to go

the Cats and Sonic the Hedgehog trailers reactions were "extreme". links this to people hating Spok dying in the Wrath of Khan. Roses actress got supposedly so much hate from fanboys that she left like how Lenord nemoid got death-threats

Thinks that there has not been constructive criticism, just that people think they are better than the writers

thinks people might be overreacting

the sudden drop in rating wasn't fair, books were too dense to be adapted and he is over the story and its hole and wants to look into its ideas and themes. people aren't talking about these ideas and are name calling the writers. the writes did the story well in the past

in the past people like the show because things happened in the way they liked it but the 8 season ended differently

John snow defeating the Night King was never his destiny, as his thing was honor. his arc is about making difficult decision and not accomplishing great feats. "doing the right thing isn't always totally awesome"

people hated the season because they had expectations, but why was that and why is it so hard to accept the subversion?

The game of thrones was never meant to be popular, it wasn't mean t to be crowd-pleaser like Harry Potter or OT Star-wars. it was gritty story, but the writers gave their characters wins at the ending half, so they thought they were going to be okay. then the ending happened and they thought they would get another victory foe characters but it was subversion

lot of people knew about the earlier twist so they weren't that shocking to them

people had lot of theories for TLJ and hated that they didn't come true and same thing happened to the game of thrones, where fans felt they owned the story and the characters, so they didn't want to accept that their expectations were subverted

George came up the Song of ice and fire in 90s so he couldn't know there was going to be this huge following

100% of the hate is just fan entitlement

people would forgive sloppy writing if they get what they wanted, but since they didn't, they hated it

someone made video where they used the most popular fan theories to tell how the story should have ended and this guy doesn't like it since its not subversive and doesn't show ideas or themes, so he calls it "mediocrity"

game of thrones is all about not giving what the people want, so the season captured the story's heart perfectly

Maybe his wrong? but so are lot of other people. they were oo busy to be mad that they didn't think the message the show was pushing, that being too caught up in your own thoughts will make you ignore things

he predicted how things were going to go, so he is happy how it ended

its hard to write, some part would have been impossible to adapt.

TLJ being hated didn't do anything, just added more pandering to the fans. the movies are ruled by market and film makers they dont want to make risks. Poeple take risks by subverting things and fans punish them for no reason.

likes and thinks its just good when people try something different.

writers should be allowed to make mistakes

its impossible to please everyone

still thinks that the seasons 8 is going by "Martins vision"'

people just like heroes winning

the writers should be lionized for trying and taking risks

whatever the writers got wrong there was lot that the fans got wrong too

we shouldn't focus on plotholes and just thank that the ending was flawed genuine and explored some tough questions of who we are

we should forgive the game of thrones and think about the messages

he's not telling us how we should feel