Great Comment Crash

* Every comment previously made by Ulysses, Bonkspenser, Kokogumi, and Le Tryhard Hunter deleted by Dr. Dos.
* Comment limits introduced.

## Belligerents

* Ulysses
* Bonkspenser
* Kokogumi
* Le Tryhard Hunter

* Dr. Dos

The **Great Comment Crash** was an event on TF2Tags where Ulysses, Bonkspenser, Kokogumi, and Le Tryhard Hunter attempted to create the first Hale's Own comment section, commenting several hundred times on two separate tags at a pace so rapid that it *actually crashed the TF2Tags server*.

Due to the nature of this event, much of the pre-crash information has to be inferred from general consensus and post-crash comments, due to the comments of the main four taggers getting deleted.

## Four Taggers and a Dream

On January 11th, 2016, at 12:54 pm, Le Tryhard Hunter posted the third entry into his "TF2Tags Academy" educational series, which he created in hopes of educating the new taggers coming to the site during the New Tagger Riots from the preceding days. In this entry, he covered topics such as the search function, keywords, editing and deleting submissions, noting that comments cannot be edited, and vote logs. However, in the comments, he also displayed a well-known bug where if someone clicked on the "submit comment" button more than once, it would post their comment multiple times.

This seemingly innocent demonstration of a site bug quickly grew into something much more. After Tryhard demonstrated this bug, a tagger that was likely Bonkspenser began to hypothesize about the potential for a "Hale's Own Comment Section". That is, a post with 8500 comments. The two of them would proceed to make massive numbers of comments in pursuance of this goal. Ultimately, the duo would post 231 comments, plus an additional 3 that TGRobert made making a joke out of Tryhard's pointing out that comments cannot be deleted or changed (these comments are the only surviving comments on this post).

Eventually, however, Ulysses would learn of this idea and try to do it himself. He would make a tag of his representative item at 1:28 pm with the same name and description: "what in the fuck". He would then proceed to use the duplicate comment bug to comment "what in the fuck" hundreds of times on this tag. Initially, Tryhard and Bonk would swap from Tryhard's tag to this one, also commenting "what in the fuck". This extremely rapid influx of comments then caused the site itself to slow down and experience technical difficulties, in a way similar to a a DDoS attack.

After three minutes of continuous commenting, Tryhard began to realize what their collective actions were doing, and had a change of heart, making a tag asking for Ulysses to stop. Ulysses, not one to care for what others want, continued onward anyway. Bonk would also continue to make comments, and somewhere along the way Kokogumi joined them. Tryhard would then try to reason with Bonk six minutes later, to no avail. 2 comments would be made on the former tag by any of the four taggers involved, and 16 on the latter. It is unknown what words were said between them in these posts. For all that is known, it might have just been more spam on the latter. With the site rapidly deteriorating, Dos was soon notified and banned Ulysses, who according to Marmot had posted around 700 comments on his tag. Bonkspenser and Kokogumi, however, kept going. Marmot would report Ulysses's banning at 1:59 pm. At 2:17, Tryhard, who realized there was no fighting it at this point, made a joke about how everyone was complaining about the new taggers shitposting when this was now occurring.

At some point shortly after this, however, the site could no longer handle the influx of comments and gave out. TF2Tags.com had crashed, with Ulysses's tag only reaching 892 comments, marking it a Positively Inhumane comment section, as well as the most commented on tag in tagging history.

## Comment Limits

The site crashing due to comments quickly raised alarm, and someone (perhaps Tryhard himself) reported what happened to Dr. Dos, who swiftly took action to restore the site. He began by banning the other taggers involved (including Tryhard) temporarily to stop the flood of comments. From what is known of the site's administrative tools due to Fancytag's later promotion to moderator, it is likely that Dos also used the ban to initiate a nuclear option to keep the site running: he deleted every single comment Le Tryhard Hunter, Bonkspenser, Ulysses, and Kokogumi ever made up until that point. This was enough for the site to start running normally again, so he relaunched it at some point around 4 pm, as the next tag after Tryhard's joke was at 4:12.

The site would be restored, and taggers would slowly return to ask what had happened. During this time, Dos would make comments on Tryhard's post regarding Ulysses that mention he was testing something. At 6:48, Dos would update the site news announcing a new change to how comments would work from now on. As a means to prevent something like the comment crash from happening again, Dos implemented prototypical comment limits, where making a comment now counted as making a tag according to one's daily submission limits.

The change was... not very well received. A little over an hour after this update, Player 1 + Player 2 made a tag criticizing Dos's actions, noting that he had been missing for months and when he finally returns without warning, he makes a change that fundamentally changes how the site works without consulting the userbase. Dos actually responded to this tag, commenting that he would do so if people didn't spam "50,000" comments and bring the site's server to a grinding halt. TGRobert would reply to this, questioning if the bans were really necessary considering he had just put in comment limits that would prevent them from crashing the site in the future.

Following this, at around 8 pm, Dos would unban the four taggers, though their comments were irreversibly erased. Bonkspenser would make a tag explaining what had happened. Though all of Bonk's tags prior to May 2016 have since been deleted, a comment on an earlier post by Marmot revealed that this tag had Bonk state that Dos had banned Tryhard and Koko because he believed Bonk to be using alt accounts to continue commenting. After this, Ulysses would make a tag insinuating that he had been laughing all throughout the ordeal, not caring about the consequences.

## Aftermath

A few other taggers would give their (mostly negative) opinions on the new comment limit system that day, such as Makin' Bacon satirizing Dos by making him say that crits and misses would now count as a submission. However, the outcry was nowhere near big enough to make Dos reverse his decision (unlike the Mobile-Friendly Update), so the taggers just collectively accepted the change and moved on, even if it was inconvenient.

Dr. Dos would go on to try and change this system about a month following its implementation. According to a post of a chat log between him and Dos by Ulysses on the 17th of February, Dos saw that the site only gets about 150ish comments per day, so a hard limit of 1 comment = 1 tag was not necessary, and that he would likely implement comment limit tiers based upon a user's profile rank. The comment limit system would be overhauled on February 20th, where Dos would implement a new comment limit system separate from the daily submission system. Now, each tagger was allowed double the amount of comments as tags they were allowed to post in a day (i.e., if you could only post 25 tags a day you were allowed 50 comments). These limits would increase after getting the same amount of total points as needed to increase the submission limits. This system was deemed much more favorable by most taggers, though it was initially overshadowed by the major event of that day.

## Gallery

The initial set where the attempt to make the first Hale's Own Comment Section. The tag itself is unrelated to the goal, and almost all the comments have since been deleted.Ulysses, not wanting the glory to go to someone else, starts his own attempt to get to Hale's. He is later aided by Bonkspenser and Kokogumi. This is the most commented-on tag in Tagging history, most of which were just "what in the fuck".The remains of the comment section after Dos took action.Tryhard tries to reason with Ulysses. It doesn't work. Two comments were deleted from this tag, belonging to one of the four taggers. Also note Dos using this tag to test if his fixes worked.Tryhard then begs Bonkspenser to stop as well, realizing that they are breaking the site. It is in vain. 16 comments from the participating taggers were deleted from this tag.Ulysses, Kokogumi, and Bonkspenser are banned. Marmot acknowledges that Ulysses will likely be back within the week.Tryhard harkens back to when everyone was complaining about the New Tagger Riots a few days earlier.Blast asks what the Hell is going on as TF2Tags melts down.Dr. Dos takes action.Player 1 + Player 2 speaks for the many who find the 1 comment equaling 1 tag solution poor.TheOnlyGuyEver demands an explanation.Anatolebahorel makes a tag joking about the situation.John Kennedy makes a joke.Ulysses reveling in the chaos he caused that day.Makin' Bacon satirizes Dos and his comment limits.Tryhard realizes that the site is now especially vulnerable to another Taggening.Lt. Col. Problem returns, and gets informed about what he just stumbled back into.TF2Tags Nightly News Network entry.Ulysses mocks the potential future of submission limits.Fancytag gets around the new limits by changing to an alt account.Following Attack of the Clones, the comment limits are overhauled into a much more acceptable form.Fancytag wonders how long the comment overhaul will last post-Attack of the Clones.
## Trivia

* Because of the deletion of all the previous comments by these four taggers, their impact on TF2Tags history may appear to be downplayed. While this is somewhat true for Kokogumi, the other three must be emphasized to be consistent taggers that were known and recognizable by the majority of the community.
	+ This is especially true for Bonkspenser. Dos's deletion of all of Bonk's comments, combined with Bonk's decision to nuke his original account at around May 2016, means that there is literally no trace of Bonkspenser on TF2Tags prior to January 11th, 2016. Only that which exists on this wiki, written by Bonk himself, proves he was on the site prior.
* While Dos deleted every comment the four taggers made up until the point of the crash, the tags themselves still recognized the comments as being present. This is why when someone goes through the archive of the site, the number of comments listed and the number of comments actually present on a tag may be different on a tag prior to January 11th, 2016. It simply meant that one of those four commented.
* The comment limit overhaul was introduced on the same day as Attack of the Clones.
	+ Alongside the overhaul, Dos also changed the way item qualities worked, allowing for all items to use all qualities regardless if it was possible in-game.

* Following this event, a trend started where taggers would parody the *Meet the Team* videos using different members of the community.
	+ Also following this event, L'Étranger returned.