Hades (Disney) vs. Hades (Kid Icarus)

## Description

*Disney and Nintendo's lords of the Underworld battle it out to determine the superior god of evil.*

## Interlude

Hiro: According to the Greek's ancient texts, the Underworld is where human souls go after death; awaiting them is the ruler of such a domain: Hades, god of the dead.

**MBStarscream: And like many other mythological characters, this particular god has had his share of appearances in pop culture, usually as a villain due to his association with death despite being a rather caring figure beneath the whole death god shtick.**

Hiro: And these two incarnations of him, while shown to be a lot more comedic than you'd expect of a god, are no less powerful, being gods and all.

**MBStarscream: Disney's Hades, Hercules' literally hot-headed nemesis.**

Hiro: And Kid Icarus' Hades, the God of Evil. I'm Hiro Hamada.

**MBStarscream: I'm MBStarscream.**

Hiro: And it's our job to examine both warriors' strength, abilities, weapons, and weaknesses to see who would win in a fight.

## Hades (Disney)

Hiro: Long ago, the country of Greece that we know today was home to all-powerful deities, with the mightiest god of all ruling from Mount Olympus: Zeus.

**MBStarscream: One god, however, only has diabolical plans for Mount Olympus, one who was unwillingly granted ownership of the afterlife known as the Underworld by his brother Zeus. Given what was down there - nothing but darkness and dead people - they weren't too grateful towards the other gods.**

Hiro: Meet Hades, the Greek God of the dead. His position as lord of the Underworld left him unsatisfied and full of resentment towards Zeus, wanting nothing more than to overthrow his brother and take the Olympian throne himself.

**MBStarscream: He began a scheme to take down his fellow gods by unleashing the Titans on Olympus, who Zeus had imprisoned long ago. The only problem was Zeus' son, a troublesome hero named Hercules who was prophecised by the Fates to cut Hades' plans short.**

Hiro: When the would-be hero was only an infant, Hades had his two lackeys Pain and Panic give him a potion that would strip him of all his godly strength that he was displaying at such a young age. This backfired, however, as Hercules did not drink the very last drop of the potion, thus allowing him to keep his divine power.

**MBStarscream: Hades wasn't pleased when he found out about this 18 years after the fact, and sent monster after monster to kill Hercules, to little success. Then he realized Hercules was in love with his slave Megara, and made a deal with him: If he gave up his strength for a whole day, Meg's soul would be free.**

Hiro: Hercules agreed on the condition that Meg would not be harmed, and learned the hard way that she was in alliance with Hades the whole time, crushing his will to fight. This allowed Hades to put his master plan into action, awakening the Titans and ordering them to imprison the gods. Victory was in his grasp.

**MBStarscream: All he had to do now was get rid of Hercules by sending the Cyclops to kill him while he was depowered. Hercules managed to defeat the beast with his wits, but Meg ended up being crushed to death by a falling pillar. With Hades' deal being negated, Hercules got his full power back and got to rescuing the gods while battling the Titans.**

Hiro: Hercules then stormed into the Underworld, rescued Meg from the River Styx, and defeated Hades by sending him flying into the river with a punch, where he was swarmed by vengeful souls and dragged into the depths.

**MBStarscream: Talk about getting dragged further into Hell.**

Hiro: Like all the gods in his pantheon, Hades is blessed with immortality that prevents him from aging or dying through conventional means, meaning his string cannot be cut by the Fates. In a similar manner to Zeus' lightning, Hades' powers are mainly derived from fire and smoke, so much so that his "hair" is made of flames.

**MBStarscream: Hades can summon fire at will to attack his enemies and cause damage to anything in his vicinity. The extent of his literal firepower is practically unlimited, as he was able to burn an entire forest to the ground in a matter of seconds as a result of an angry outburst. Oh yeah, the more pissed he gets, the more fiery he gets.**

Hiro: With smoke, Hades can conjure objects and creatures from thin air. He also uses smoke as a means to teleport himself with the snap of a finger. Hades can also turn his arms into extendable, smokey appendages and use them to grab things or people from a distance.

**MBStarscream: Hades can warp reality by using unfair deals, like when he took Hercules' strength or when he healed Megara's former lover. As an immortal god, Hades can manipulate life and death and bring someone back from the dead, as he did with Jafar in a crossover.**

Hiro: Hades holds dominion over the dead and the spirits of those who died, and is able to control monsters like Cerberus, a three-headed dog, who guards his palace. Being a death god also gives him access to dark magic, including necromancy.

**MBStarscream: Adding to his dark magic is his speciality in alchemy, having successfully made his own potion that makes the drinker mortal in an effort to remove Hercules' godlike strength. And of course, Hades has shown huge levels of superhuman strength, endurance, durability, stamina, enhanced senses, and a superhuman healing factor. While not as strong as Zeus, he was still strong enough on his own to escape baby Hercules' grip and tough enough to take blows from adult Hercules when he achieved godhood.**

Hiro: Hades has also withstood lava and freezing cold temperatures respectively, even able to break free after being frozen by the Ice Titan. His cunning is no less impressive; he is incredibly meticulous with his scheming, going so far as to patiently wait eighteen years to unleash an attack upon Mount Olympus. He is also rather analytical; upon witnessing Hercules' strength firsthand, Hades instantly knew that his newborn nephew could cause issues with his plans and sought to eliminate the problem immediately, albeit unsuccessfully.

**MBStarscream: When none of his monsters could take Hercules down for him, he resorted to his manipulations in order to break the hero's spirit, using his love for Meg to his advantage and making a deal with him to give up his strength for a day, then revealing Meg's servitude to him to break his willpower.**

Hiro: His intellect and godly power make Hades a deadly foe. He's hidden his plans from Zeus and Olympus for 18 years, ruled the Underworld, manipulated Hercules into giving up his powers, freed the Titans from their imprisonment, tricked the other gods into swimming in the waters of Lethe to forget their pasts, and made a deal with Jafar in order to make Hercules and Aladdin fight each other.

**MBStarscream: Hades still has his flaws, however. He is bound to any deal he makes, shown when Hercules regained his strength after Meg had been injured despite Hades promising he wouldn't be, and any god can affect him or bypass his intangibility.**

Hiro: He can also be rendered mortal by a special potion, and when using it on another, he has to make them drink it all; if there's even just a drop left, the drinker will still retain their godlike strength.

**MBStarscream: And his *temper!* The smallest things set him off like a pressure cooker, which usually spells bad news for whoever or whatever's around him.**

Hiro: But it is best not to unleash Hades' wrath, given what he is capable of. Frankly, it's easy to see why he remains one of Disney's most iconic villains in their line-up.

*Hades: I got 24 hours to get rid of this bozo, or the entire scheme I've been setting up for 18 years goes up in smoke, (up in flames) ...and you... are wearing... HIS... **MERCHANDISE**?!?!*

*There is a slurp, and Hades is interrupted mid-rage as he begins to descend on Pain. They glance over at Panic sipping Herculade.*

*Panic: (Chuckles nervously) Thirsty?*

*Hades screams, now completely enraged and entirely up in flames. We cut back to the crowd as Hades' scream echoes far away, then an enormous mushroom cloud explosion occurs in the background.*

## Hades (Kid Icarus)

Hiro: In the mythical world of gods and goddesses, there existed a realm known as Skyworld, which was led by Palutena, the goddess of light. While Palutena was a kind ruler who tried to make the humans down on Earth happy, there was another goddess who would torment the humans in return.

**MBStarscream: This was Medusa, goddess of darkness, and Palutena eventually ended up cursing Medusa for her sins, transforming her into a one-eyed, snake-haired monster and banishing her to the Underworld. It was there that she would meet the flamboyant, sarcastic, and otherwise blatantly evil God of the Underworld. Meet Hades number two!**

Hiro: Having existed since the creation of mankind, this Hades enjoys nothing more than destruction, mischief-making, and just being aggravating in general. As well, Hades is constantly always mocking and trying to get under your skin at every single possibility.

**MBStarscream: On top of just being a sarcastic gadfly, Hades is supremely uncaring of life to the point where he actively eats the souls of the departed for fun. Also on the "list of things Hades does not care about" - he's not one for loyalty and devotion, and views his army as expendable idiots. The only reason he cares about Earth, is because the Earth is his flower to plunder, and only his.**

Hiro: All of these traits naturally put him in conflict with Palutena's new champion Pit, whom he revealed himself to after he had defeated Medusa for a second time. Pit would battle Hades and his evil army, and with the help he needed, overcame the God of Evil and ended the threat of the Underworld Army.

**MBStarscream: But taking down this guy was not easy by any means. Second only in power to Dyntos, the god of the forge, Hades is an extremely powerful deity on his own, being Pit's only foe to have defeated him in a sense.**

Hiro: Given his giant size, Hades is incredibly strong and durable, able to obliterate most of Medusa's body and kill her with a single punch, and survive devastating injuries, like being bisected and beheaded, only to regrow those body parts and not even be slowed down. Hades is tremendously fast as well, able to move at near-light speed.

**MBStarscream: We can easily scale his speed to Pit, who flew to another solar system. As well, he could make mountains just by jumping and breaking the ground beneath his feet, and he said that he was going to “decimate a country or two” in his battle with Pit.**

Hiro: On top of his physical prowess, Hades has tremendous magical and weapon prowess as well, able to easily create power tornadoes in an instant, including a giant one around himself that can destroy anything in a given path by spinning rapidly. He is also able to fire off powerful blasts of energy from different points of his body, like his hands and his eyes, that deal great damage to an opponent upon contact.

**MBStarscream: Hades has the ability to manipulate souls, and can revive fallen allies or create new monsters using this ability. He can also devour souls to increase his strength and use souls to regenerate lost limbs. And because the Underworld is his domain, he could be anywhere, or everywhere all at once.**

Hiro: Like the other gods in his world, Hades can telepathically communicate with others, usually to taunt from the sidelines, and project a giant astral hologram of himself when and whenever he wants. Hades can also create grind rails which are magic, invisible rails that only Pit can use, allowing him to move rapidly move and even go upside-down.

**MBStarscream: Hades is formidable in hand-to-hand combat, punching fast enough to have his arms appear in multiple places. Furthermore, these create fists that continue flying towards their target. And if he wants a snack, he'll can suck in and swallow enemies to take them to a whole other dimension simply called "Hades's Belly". That's right; this guy's stomach is a dimension of its own!**

Hiro: Hades possesses some degree of control over this belly dimension, as it is filled with cellular versions of his army, as well as his own sentient heart that can attack by creating exploding copies of itself or just charging into people.

**MBStarscream: On top of all this is the Devastation Ensemble, a special armor Hades only wears for "special occasions" like weddings, Armageddons, and fighting Pit in duels to the death. This bad boy turns his entire body into a weapon, allowing him to spawn all sorts of laser-firing weapons.**

Hiro: He can spawn... "face-guns" in his back, turn his hand into an electric vortex, and produce a drill from his chest with this weaponized suit. With or without a weaponized suit of armor, Hades has shown to be more than powerful enough to achieve his goal of ruling over all he sees.

**MBStarscream: He's tricked humanity into fighting over a Wish Seed that he made up, defeated Pit several times, was able to easily destroy the Three Sacred Treasures with one blast wave done through a burp, almost completely destroyed the Great Sacred Treasure with one attack, and permanently killed Medusa herself.**

Hiro: However, Hades has several flaws that ultimately led to his plans failing. He is considerably egotistical and arrogant, brushing off any matter as no importance, and rarely gets serious in a fight. His ability to manipulate souls is also a double-edged sword. By stealing and devouring souls, Hades erases them from existence, keeping them in limbo, which progessively disrupts the natural balance of the world.

**MBStarscream: Devouring souls also makes Hades more vulnerable to damage, and he can be destroyed by complete annihilation. But good luck doing that when Hades is as powerful as he is.**

Hiro: Indeed, Skyworld has never seen a threat as grievous as Hades.

*Hades: Sorry to keep YOU waiting. But now that I'm here, let's get this party started.*

## Fatal Fiction

*Mario flips a coin.*

Hiro: Well, where else shall these two lords of the dead clash but the Underworld? Specifically that of Kid Icarus' Hades?

**MBStarscream: I mean, nothing could be more appropriate, right?**

*Underworld Castle*

Deep within the Underworld, the gigantic and twisted palace eclipsed all in its shadow. The Underworld Gatekeeper was on high alert, ensuring that no soul would even attempt to enter this castle.

But some people had their ways of getting in.

Inside a corridor lit by torches, a cloud of dark smoke appeared, which then revealed a blue-gray humanoid with flaming blue hair, wearing a black robe and a smoky base. His yellow eyes were sunken deep in their sockets and his teeth were razor sharp.

Almost as sharp as his wit. Because Disney's **Hades** had that in spades.

"Hmm," the figure said as he looked around. "Likin' the architecture. The torches are a nice touch, kinda wanna take some home with me if ya don't mind, heh. They'd go so well with where I'm from."

"Why, I'm flattered." A second voice said.

"Huh?"

Suddenly, the wall behind him was ripped apart like wet paper, and a giant face peered in through the newly formed hole. Purple skin, red, green and pink hair, red tatto on the eyes, malicious grin.

All traits in line with Kid Icarus' **Hades**.

"Welcome to MY Underworld! Glad you like it!"

Once he got his bearings, Disney Hades cleared his throat and tried to offer a greeting. "Name is Hades, Lord of the Dead. Hi, how ya doing?"

"Those titles sound veeeery familiar, I've definitely heard of them before. You sure you didn't get those from someone else?"

"Like who, big guy?"

"Someone like... **ME?**"

KI Hades' face got so close to Disney Hades that he could see every detail of his features clearly. He backed up in surprise. "Whoa, whoa, whoa, ever hear of personal space, big guy, cuz you're taking a lot of it right now!"

"Oh, I'm sorry." In a flash, Disney Hades was swiped out of the castle and held tightly in KI Hades' fist, the grip feeling like concrete. "Is this better?"

"You know, suffocation aside, it's definitely an improvement! Could I just ask you to let me go, though? Like I said, suffocation's still an issue! So it'd be cool if we can resolve that!" Disney Hades said in a strained voice.

"Oh, but I'm having so much *fun* playing with my toys! Why put them down so soon?" KI Hades said with glee.

"Then it looks like I'll have to put this toy in the fireplace!" Disney Hades said before his blue flames suddenly turned orange, sending a wave of burning pain through KI Hades' giant hand. KI Hades held his hand as Disney Hades disappeared in a flash of smoke, reappearing back inside the castle with blue flames again.

"Now that should teach you not to play with fire. Seriously, I thought people already knew that, I mean look at me for crying out loud!"

"Oh, things just got heated!" KI Hades said with a smile. "And I've got a feeling it's only get more heated from there!"

"Oh believe me, I'm feelin' the tension just as much as you, babe, it's killin' me." Disney Hades said. "Question is, who's it gonna kill first?" His hands alit with fire as he said this.

"I've got the feeling it's already crushed you before you even felt it, hothead." KI Hades said evilly.

**FIGHT!**

"Fireballs comin' your way, think fast!" Disney Hades said before hurling fireball afte fireball at KI Hades, who blocked with his arm. KI Hades swung his arm at Disney Hades, smashing through the castle and knocking his foe away. Disney Hades shook his head while trying to get up, but KI Hades' fist promptly smashed through the wall, punching him out of the castle where he landed outside. Looking up, he saw KI Hades floating above the castle, the giant entity looming above him.

"Now I've got something coming *your* way! Death from above, I call it!" After saying this, KI Hades sent a magic blast down towards Disney Hades, who in turn sent up a massive blast of fire to counter it. But his fire blast could only hold out for long before KI Hades' magic blast overwhelmed it, and subsequently came down upon Disney Hades to form a large crater where he once stood.

"Over already? What a shame."

"Oh, but we've barely even begun to play this game, my friend."

KI Hades turned his head to see Disney Hades on his shoulder, whose voice he had heard in his ear. "And SO far, you haven't really been playing fair." Disney Hades said as he charged his hand with fire.

The next thing KI Hades knew was unworldy pain in his ear. His body leaned to the right as a hand involuntarily covered his ear. Disney Hades appeared on the ground in another flash of smoke, watching the dark god writhing from below.

"Warning: Playing unfair with the Lord of the Dead will lead to 50% hearing loss, so abide by the rules and you will spared an earful. Of fire! Oh, that's a good one! Good one, Hades!"

His amusement was cut short as he looked up to see KI Hades holding the entire castle above his head. "That *was* good. But I've got something that'll *really* bring down the house. ON YOU, OF COURSE!"

And indeed, the brought the castle down upon his foe. When the dust cleared, all that could be seen was rubble. "Better let the Gatekeeper go. And clean up this mess later." KI Hades mused.

A primal roar suddenly echoed through the Underworld as Disney Hades burst from the rubble in an explosion of fire. "OH, I'VE GOT QUITE A FEW THINGS TO CLEAN UP!" He shouted before launching himself up at KI Hades, who merely knocked him aside. Disney Hades glared upward as KI Hades shot blasts out of his eyes. Disney Hades turned into smoke and floated towards KI Hades, dodging every blast that the God of Evil fired at him.

KI Hades tried punching him, but only hit air no matter how many times his fists were swung. Disney Hades landed on KI Hades' head, leading the Underworld lord to slap a hand on his cranium. He then felt flames licking the back of his hand, causing him to hold it in pain. Disney Hades rained down fire at KI Hades, smothering him in the flames.

"HOW DO YA LIKE IT HOT, HUH?!" Disney Hades practically screamed. He didn't notice KI Hades teleporting above him until he heard...

"Not very much, pal. I kinda like it..."

He started spinning around fast enough to generate a twister that swallowed up Disney Hades, the fiery god being tossed around like a ragdoll. "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!"

KI Hades pulled back a fist. "Windy."

Disney Hades felt something ram into him with the force of a train, and he was sent flying across the horizon until he disappeared. Far in the distance, he weakly got to his feet and turned to see KI Hadesc charging up with magical energy. A large laser was then sent towards Disney Hades, who turned into pure fire and practically slithered past it. When Disney Hades reached his larger opponent, he sent up a pillar of flame that hit KI Hades' chin. Disney Hades floated upward, turned himself into a fireball, and dashed towards KI Hades' chest, but the other death god punched him away.

Upon stopping himself, Disney Hades unleashed a torrent of fireballs that KI Hades blocked with his arm once again. KI Hades charged with a punch, but Disney Hades dodged and flew behind him, throwing more fireballs. Again and again, Disney Hades dodged his foe's punches and belted him with projectiles, then flew towards him with a fiery fist drawn back, screaming, ready to punch.

KI Hades reeled his head to the side, causing Disney Hades to miss him completely. Disney Hades looked up in shock as KI Hades smiled.

Then, in a single motion, KI Hades opened his mouth and slammed it shut, swallowing Disney Hades with a single gulp.

*Hades's Belly*

"Ugh, wha... What happened?" Disney Hades wondered as he got up. His ears started to adjust to the strange, uncomfortable gurgling sound that he heard. He tried to retrace his steps, then suddenly remembered what had happened. And the realization hit him, just as a familiar voice rung out.

"Oh, you're awake! Glad I could provide you with a little hospice while you were out!"

"If by hospice, you mean imprisonment in your big gut, then you have certainly given that to me today." Disney Hades said dryly. "No matter," he said with a crack of his knuckles. "I'll get outta here and--"

"PFFT! If you wanna get out, pal, you're gonna have to wait until you come out somewhere else." KI Hades' voice rang with amusement, but Disney Hades didn't find anything funny about the implications behind that comment. "Um, no. We're not doing that, okay? Just no. That won't be necessary."

"Or, I can have my little friends take care of you in there."

On cue, a group of cellular monsters appeared before Disney Hades, ready to carry out their master's will. Smirking at his competition, Disney Hades created a fireball in his hand.

"I think I can take care of myself."

*Underworld*

"While you're having fun in there, I'll be going somewhere else." KI Hades remarked before he started to fly away. Right then and there, the most horrible pain exploded inside of him. He clutched his chest in agony, doubling over, seeing only black beneath his eyes.

And who appeared on the ground in a puff of smoke but Disney Hades.

"Well, you know what they say about hot food. It's not good for your heart. By the way, your heart really likes to run, anyone tell you that? Well, assuming you've eaten anyone else but me today."

KI Hades fought through the pain to glare daggers at his opponent. "That wasn't very NICE!" He snarled angrily. Suddenly, tiny turrets appeared all over his body. The red lines running up his body were replaced by an orange covering of light, the sash around his waist now spread outward in a ring, and spikes grew out of his right shoulder. "This calls for special occasion attire!" He announced.

"Uh, what special occasions do you use that attire for?" Disney Hades asked.

"Oh you know, weddings, armageddons, destroying you, all that jazz." KI Hades said nonchalantly before the turrets opened fire. Disney Hades countered the lasers and missiles the best he could with fireballs as he dodged left and right. He managed to stagger KI Hades with a fiery eruption at the snap of his fingers, then flew towards him with a flaming fist. In response, KI Hades threw a punch of his own that connected with that of Disney Hades. KI Hades' fists swung so fast that they seemed to be in multiple places at once as Disney Hades matched him blow for blow.

Finally, KI Hades uppercut Disney Hades into the air, appeared above him and thrust his chest outward. Disney Hades saw a giant drill coming out of his opponent's chest before he felt it piercing through his stomach, sending him towards the ground and pinning him to it. Disney Hades looked down in horror, seeing the drill sticking deep inside his gut, then heard evil laughter from hundreds of feet above him.

"Well, time to wrap this up!" KI Hades said while clenching a fist.

"Wait, wait, wait, wait, please, listen to me for a second, maybe we can--"

Disney Hades' pleas went unheard as KI Hades' fist came down upon him. The entire Underworld quaked from the force behind the punch that obliterated the drill with Disney Hades' entire body. KI Hades lifted his fist to reveal another massive crater that was far deeper than the last one he had created. Like before, Disney Hades was nowhere to be seen, but this time, he would never been seen again.

KI Hades sighed. "Look what you've made me *do* to this place." He said. "All these craters, the castle. Oh well. At least I've got another nice soul to torture for the rest of time."

He left the area with those words, soul in hand.

**FATALITY!**

## Results

**MBStarscream: Game. Set. Match.**

Hiro: If we're being honest, Disney Hades didn't really stand much of a chance here.

**MBStarscream: Both were excellent schemers, but one was more of a fighter than the other. Disney Hades prefers to fight with his mind, coming up with devious plans to get his way, but KI Hades is more willing to throw punches, having personally fought Pit quite a few times. Adding to him being older than all of creation gives him a far greater experience advantage as well that Disney Hades couldn't overcome.**

Hiro: KI Hades' gargantuan size also didn't do Disney Hades any favor in this fight, and neither did the latter's more uncontrollable temper. KI Hades occasionally has his moments of wrath, but is generally in much more control of his temper than what Disney Hades has shown.

**MBStarscream: Plus, all Disney Hades really had was pyrokinesis, smoke manipulation and his own godly attributes, while KI Hades came with the latter and more. The Devastation Ensemble only gave KI Hades even greater versatility, meaning that Disney Hades was badly outmatched in abilities.**

Hiro: KI Hades was also far faster, or at least has shown far more feats of speed that blew any speed feat of Disney Hades out of the water. Contending with Pit meant that KI Hades was at least MFTL in speed, and his omnipresence only meant that his already impressive speed advantage was even greater. Now, Disney Hades has taken blows from his universe's Hercules, but aside from that, he doesn't really have any physical feats that put him on a similar level to Hercules, unlike KI Hades with Pit.

**MBStarscream: Basically, Disney Hades has never fought Hercules enough times to reliably scale to him, while KI Hades has fought Pit enough times to be comparable to him in the physical department.**

Hiro: So with his advantages in experience, versatility and physical scaling, KI Hades was ultimately able to keep his title as the true Lord of the Underworld.

**MBStarscream: Disney Hades' hope for victory were extinguished.**

Hiro: Kid Icarus' Hades wins.

## Advantages

### Hades (Kid Icarus) (Winner)

* Far larger
* Significantly older and more experienced
* More of a fighter while still being a schemer
* Less severe temper
* More reliable physical scaling