Episode 68: "Girlfriend with the Charcoal"

*Well, hello there...*

*The Queerwolves have reunited for a Valentine's Day special covering 1981's MY BLOODY VALENTINE!*

*Nay, Michael, and Brennan catch up on the last six months, discuss Valentine's Day memories good and bad (mostly bad), and dig deep into the mining town at the center of the film.*

*Plus in Tea Time we sip on Godzilla, Two of Us, The Walking Dead, Grey's Anatomy, and more! [1]*

## **Notes**

First of the holiday specials. Episode 67 overall.

Topics brought up during the episode: Lou Dobbs trying to say a city in Mexico, Michael's next movie (*Time Cut*), Brennan's podcasts on Alternate Ending, Tim Brighton

## **Shady Summaries**

**Nay:** What I'm gonna do is read my Shady Summary before I say what the movie is

**Brennan:** Oooh!

**Nay:** Because the things we were just discussing kind of mirrors my Shady Summary. And so, I'm gonna say that this particular film for today… "Negligent leadership results in death of essential workers. Survivor wears mask and kills people that party." *What movie is it?*

**Michael:** *Ooooh.* I wish I could tweet that

**Nay:** It's *not* the coronavirus pandemic, it is *My Bloody Valentine* 1981

**Michael:** You should tweet that from the Queerwolf account

**Nay:** When the episode comes out?

**Michael:** Or like, tonight, just like 'cause we've been kind of teasing people about it

**Nay:** Okay. For sure

**Michael:** We haven't said the episode's gonna drop

**Nay:** I *did* tell Kate. I just had to tell Kate

**Michael:** Yeah. I actually told my friend Josh. We were talking two weeks ago and he said, "Why don't you do more *Queerwolf*? I miss *Queerwolf*!" And so I texted him that we decided to do the episode

**Nay:** And so I actually also told Terry (laughs) Terry and Jo *because* before I texted you Michael, "Oh I really wanna do an episode," I had been talking to Terry and Joe and I can't remember which one of them but one of them was like, "Y'all should just drop an episode and not tell anybody." And I was like, "Oh, that's really cute." (laughs)

**Michael:** That would be really cute, yeah

**Nay:** They think we should do that. I think it would be really fun because there's no expectations and it's like my ideal situation to create in because we do it when we feel like it, just kind of went rogue

**Michael:** No pressure

**Nay:** Yeah, no pressure

**Nay:** So do either of you have a Shady Summary for *My Bloody Valentine*?

**Brennan:** Yeah, I'll go with mine 'cause I'm not that proud of it, so, let's shoot it out into the world and get it out. "A romance between Hollis and his walrus mustache is rudely interrupted by a gross love triangle and a killer mine."

**Nay:** (laughs) *Hollis!* Yes, okay. Amazing. I love it.

**Brennan:** Thank you

**Michael:** I have one, and mine is, "It's got all the hallmarks of a *Friday the 13th* except it's not American, it's not on Friday the thirteenth and it doesn't star teenagers." It's like the exact same thing, right? It's like, it's wild to watch this movie 'cause really quick, it has a Friday the thirteenth in the movie and about a quarter of the film takes place on Friday the thirteenth, by the way, so objectively it could qualify as a *Friday the 13th* film

**Nay:** True, true

## **Pride Float**

**Brennan:** Does this movie deserve a Pride float? And if so, what would it look like?

**Michael:** Um….

**Brennan:** I mean, I would just say no

**Nay:** I mean, like, it doesn't

**Michael:** No

**Nay:** But if we were like, gonna throw a hit party for Valentine's Day in a non-pandemic world--

**Michael:** A gay party online?

**Nay:** It would be fine if there was like, a big fucking kettle full of hot dogs, and a human heart

**Michael:** *Oooh!*

**Brennan:** Oh yeah

**Michael:** You could also literally have a gay party in a mineshaft without resorting to the lame bar name (giggles)

**Brennan:** There's also, I mean, the unnamed blonde woman at the beginning--

**Nay:** *Yes. Hot.*

**Brennan:** We could all get temporary tattoos of that heart tattoo she has on one of her boobs

**Nay:** Yes

**Michael:** Is it *bad* that I think that that scene and that kill are sexy?

**Nay:** Uh, no

**Brennan:** The way she fondles his nozzle?

**Michael:** Yes! And something about the way her tattoo bulges out, without being pierced is like, amazing

**Nay:** *Yes.* It's amazing. And I think that gas masks is inspired for right now

**Michael:** Yes

**Brennan:** Oh yeah

**Nay:** Yeah

**Michael:** Yeah

**Nay:** Where do we get them, you know?

**Michael:** But I also think we could give, yeah, maybe not a parade, but I'm a firm believer of taking ownership of anything any more. So if we like it, then we can make it good

**Nay:** Yeah. We could throw a party

**Michael:** Yeah

**Brennan:** Yeah

**Michael:** It *is* camp, in a way

**Nay:** Yeah

**Michael:** So that would definitely play, if not giving a party at Pride it would definitely be playing at a party at Pride om the TVs in the room

**Nay:** Yeah

**Michael:** But that Harry Warden song at the end is gay

**Brennan:** (snorts) "The Ballad of Harry Warden"?

**Nay:** Harry Warden, my God. The song, and just his name

**Michael:** It's *so* good

**Nay:** I just feel like Harry Warden would like, you could find seven or eight Harry Wardens at Precinct tonight in *Cruising*

**Brennan:** Oh yeah

**Michael:** It seems like a John Waters character name, which in and of itself just makes it super queer

## **Quotes**

**Brennan:** Look, do I remember what the intro is? Not really.

**Michael:** I can do it

**Brennan:** Okay

**Nay:** Yeah

**Michael:** I love that we literally had a discussion right before (the regular intro) where we were like, "What's our show opener?"

**Nay:** Right

**Brennan:** Who knows

**Michael:** It's one sentence! (chuckles)

**Brennan:** What's our show?

**Nay:** Yeah

**Michael:** Yeah. What *is* our show?

**Nay:** Yeah. What *is* anything?

**Michael:** What is anything?

**Nay:** What is anything

**Michael:** So we're just here. Hey…listeners. Is anybody still out there? (laughs)

**Brennan:** You know--

**Michael:** But we're here! We decided we wanted to do an episode and we are really happy to be back, and who knows if we'll be back again, ever, but we might do, we talked about this, to give you all a heads up, we might do this from time to time! The three of us still keep in touch with each other pretty regularly. Nay and I are especially close so we talk every day, and this is how it kind of happened: Nay texted me one day and was like, "I wanna do an episode!" And I was like, "I kinda do too." So then we text Bren

**Brennan:** And I'm like, "I'm always, my microphone literally sits on my desk gathering dust. Like, I'm ready."

**Michael:** And then we decided we will do these whenever we damn well feel like it

**Nay:** Yeah

**Michael:** So you might get random sporadic episode drops and I'm really excited that we didn't tell any of you that we were dropping this episode, so yeah

**Brennan:** Yeah, and this is *not* a relaunch of *Attack of the Queerwolf!.* And you may have noticed a dip in audio quality because while we love Ernie, this is not a professional or official kind of thing at all. Think of it more like as when a BBC show you love has ended and then they show up just randomly

**Michael:** Like *AbFab*

**Brennan:** Yeah, exactly! Our "Valentine's Day Special Episode".

**Michael:** It is!

**Nay:** Yes

**Michael:** Yes. Considering I hate Valentine's Day

**Brennan:** I mean, yeah, but it was a good one to use

**Michael:** It was a good one to use, yeah

**Nay:** I kind of love it, I kind of love it. I know it's corny and made up, but everything is made up and most things suck, so

**Michael:** Yeah. I actually don't hate it, I should say. I don't really hate it. We just don't really celebrate it

**Brennan:** Might as well find joy where you can

**Nay:** Shit. What was I gonna say? That's actually a point. I feel like my memory is completely destroyed these days. I'm like, "Don't ask me what day it is. Don't ask me what I did yesterday. I can't remember what yesterday was." And I can't tell if I have already just had COVID and I have COVID brain or I just have stressed-out pandemic brain or both. So I have no ide what I was gonna say. (laughs)

**Michael:** Well, the COVID brain thing is true. Once we found out those tests were so bad that L.A. County was using--

**Nay:** Yes

**Michael:** I'm like convinced, I'm not convinced, but maybe I had it. I remember being sick, and it was false negatives too, right? Like sixty percent of negatives were false?

**Nay:** Yes

**Michael:** (laughing) Oh my God, that's so high! That is so high! This whole thing is ridiculous! (sighs) Anyway. I don't know what I was gonna say either.

**Nay:** Yeah, recording live from the epicenter of the pandemic

**Michael:** Yeah, seriously. Someone said to me yesterday when I was walking Scooby, my beautiful bubba, was like, "Are you having a good weekend?" And I'm like, "When?"

**Nay:** "Ew. Why are you talking to me?"

**Michael:** "When? What weekend? Everything just runs together anymore."

**Nay:** *Yeah*

**Brennan:** No, yeah, we are *literally* recording this on Super Bowl Sunday--

**Michael:** Which is awesome!

**Brennan:** Which I didn't even realize was until about a day and a half ago?

**Michael:** Didn't even watch a second

**Nay:** Fuck. I just keep *constantly* forgetting what I'm gonna say, though. (laughs) It has been *months* since we recorded an episode, and so it just feels like so much has happened in the world, considering that every single day, a major historical event occurs. (chuckles) So it's like, "*Wow*!" So much has come to pass since we last gathered

**Michael:** When was our last episode? What was it?

**Brennan:** It was May 21st, 2020. We did *The Babadook*

**Nay:** Fucking wow

**Michael:** *Wow*

**Nay:** Okay, Brennan

**Brennan:** (amused) Look, I came with the receipts because I was curious. I wrote it down

**Nay:** Ahh! (laughs)

**Michael:** Yeah, I should've done that. I should've done that

**Nay:** That's hilarious

**Michael:** We never talked about-- I'm feeling like this is a good chance to bring up any shit we wanna talk about, too. 'Cause we never got to really talk to anybody about, not what happened, because we're so far removed from what happened at Cinestate

**Brennan:** Mmm-hmm

**Michael:** Like we had no contact with those people whatsoever

**Brennan:** Yeah, but we didn't officially end the show after that. I'm sorry, everybody

**Michael:** Yeah. And we didn't know what was going on and we knew we wanted to be fuckin' far away from that place as quickly as possible once we caught wind of everything that was going on. So that's why you haven't heard from us in a little while

**Brennan:** *That*, and I don't know if you've heard, but 2020 was *hard*

**Michael:** (laughs) Yeah

**Brennan:** And just literally trying to accomplish anything-- like, I didn't watch a movie for a *month* and that is not normal for me

**Michael:** Brennan, really?

**Brennan:** Yeah. This was like, in May--

**Michael:** *Wow*

**Brennan:** So I've kind of gotten back on the horse. But you know, the mental health, the headspace was not there. I mean, I can only speak for myself, but you know

**Michael:** I had a script due during the pandemic, during the first part of the pandemic. And I started writing it in March. (laughs) And it was due, and I had to do it. Looking back, I don't remember doing that because the first half of it was in a fog. But trust me the movie's gonna be *really* good, (laughs) once I went back and did the rewrites and stuff, and I had a really good producer--

**Brennan:** You cut the subplot about the sourdough starter

**Michael:** (laughs) Yes. I had a really good producer though, guiding me through the summer after that, so it turned out really amazingly. But I remember just sitting down and being like, "What the fuck am I even doing? What is this?" It was hard

**Nay:** *Wow.* So Michael, you *made* a movie

**Michael:** Yeah

**Nay:** You had a movie come out while we've all been gone

**Michael:** Yeah!

**Nay:** In addition to whatever else you were working on

**Michael:** Yeah!

**Nay:** That was like a cute pandemic treat for everybody

**Michael:** Yeah

**Brennan:** And speaking of, isn't it available on VOD as of today, the ninth?

**Michael:** As of today, February ninth, it is now available to buy on Blu-ray

**Brennan:** Oh, that's what it is. Sorry

**Michael:** It's been available to buy on digital for the last two weeks! But Brennan, you're also correct, it's also available to *rent* on digital starting today again

**Brennan:** Oh, okay, great! I'm right and I love being right

**Michael:** Yeah. And it's not that $19.99 price any more either. It's $5.99 to rent digitally

**Nay:** Nice

**Michael:** And I got a copy of the Blu-ray and it's bomb. It looks fuckin' awesome

**Nay:** *Okay!*

**Michael:** Yeah, it looks awesome. The extras are great, Chris (Landon) does a really great director's commentary for the movie, so they're really good bonus features. So the Blu-ray is-- God, do you remember when Blu-rays first started they were like hella expensive?

**Nay:** Yes

**Michael:** They're only like, twenty-three bucks now. And I know that's a decent amount of money for some people, and for a lot of people especially *right now*, I feel like they used to be like fifty bucks, didn't they?

**Brennan:** They used to be prohibitively expensive

**Michael:** Yeah! Really expensive. And if you go online, all these different places-- like I bought the *Get Out* Blu-ray the other day for four bucks because it was on special and I was like, "Fuck yeah I'll buy *Get Out* for four dollars."

**Nay:** So in the past nine, ten months, what have you been watching? (laughs)

**Michael:** Oh my God! (chuckles)

**Brennan:** While you gather your thoughts, when I was putting my notes together, I was actually like, "Okay, what has been going on since May 21st, 2020?" I did read eighty-four books.

**Michael:** Holy shit!

**Brennan:** And watched one hundred and sixteen movies, although they were *not* during the month of May

**Michael:** You took a month off?

**Brennan:** Mmm-hmm!

**Michael:** Jesus. Damn, Brennan

**Brennan:** You know, I gotta stay busy. I also did watch the entirety of *Freddy's Nightmares* for the charity podcast *Welcome to Primetime*

**Michael:** Oh yeah!

**Brennan:** Which, I don't recommend slamming *Freddy's Nightmares*. It's not a good time

**Michael:** "Slamming"? (laughs)

**Brennan:** Yeah

**Michael:** Ugh, that sounds like a chore (chuckles)

**Brennan:** That was a chore

**Michael:** I'm sorry, but that was really nice of you to do for charity

**Brennan:** Yeah! It was for COVID-19 relief, and once that hit their mark it was for the Okra Project, which was you know, helping to feed Black trans people in the US--

**Michael:** Oh, that's great!

**Brennan:** Which I recommend continuing to donate, even if there's not a podcast. You should always be donating to causes that need it. Especially worthy ones like them.

**Brennan:** Two things I wanna bring up specifically. With my boyfriend Ben, I have been doing a marathon of the Godzilla movies

**Michael:** Fun!

**Brennan:** Of which as of the new one that's coming out in March there will be thirty-six of them

**Michael:** Holy shit

**Brennan:** We're halfway through, we've just watched number eighteen, and as of *this* point, there is not a Godzilla movie that I wouldn't recommend to someone. They all have some sort of spark of joy and beauty and wonder to them

**Nay:** *Nice*

**Brennan:** So it's not a slog like the *Children of the Corn*s or the *Freddy's Nightmares* or whatever. I *highly* recommend it. It's been such a blast

**Nay:** *Okay*. You love a marathon

**Michael:** You do love a marathon. Are you watching, do you know a lot of those are on HBO Max? Is that how you've been watching them?

**Brennan:** Well, a lot of the *newer* ones I think are. I've been, I mean I got the Criterion box set of the first fifteen

**Michael:** Oh, cool

**Brennan:** So that covered us for awhile

**Michael:** Yeah. HBO Max I looked today, they have like twelve of them

**Brennan:** Oh yeah yeah yeah. A lot of them overlap with that box set, so I haven't tried HBO Max

**Michael:** You should check it out, you should check it out, B

**Brennan:** Yeah yeah yeah. But if *you* have HBO Max and you wanna watch things, I highly recommend *Ebira: Horror of the Deep*, that one is a good one, like a candy-colored wacky movie. And we just watched the 1991 *Godzilla Versus King Ghidorah*, which is, for those not in the know, King Ghidorah is a three-headed dragon who is one of the *coolest* characters ever committed to film. It's very fun. You know, you have to be open-minded to the camp of it all, and you have to enjoy flaws in special effects, but they get less and less frequent as time goes by, too.

**Brennan:** One other thing I wanted to mention, there is a film that *just*, it didn't premiere, I think it just had its US premiere at Sundance. It's called *Two of Us*--

**Michael:** I've heard of this

**Brennan:** In the original French-- it got nominated for a Golden Globe, actually. Just like a bunch of movies that totally deserved to be. I'm just, you know, not trying to wander into that conversation, but *Two of Us* really does deserve to be recognized, it's really really cool. It's a French movie. The original title is *Deux*. It's about an elderly lesbian couple who live in the two apartments on this floor of an apartment complex. So basically they-- one of them is still in the closet to her family, and so they pretend to have two different apartments but any time the family's not there both doors are open and they kind of have free access to the whole space. Which first of all sounds like a dream. But then there is a medical situation that prevents one of them from being able to see the other without breaking down the ruse, and it *could have* been an extremely dire and sad French movie about sad lesbians, which most French movies about lesbians *are*. And it does indulge in that a little bit, but it also fuckin' becomes like, *Parasite* plus *Taken* plus whatever the partner who is able-bodied is trying literally everything in her power to reach her love, and it's really exciting and it's really exhilarating. And it's a sad French movie that also becomes a delight, which is not what I was expecting. And I really really recommend it. I really really loved it

**Michael:** Awesome. Sounds great

**Brennan:** Anyway, what have y'all been up to?

**Nay:** *Oh, God!* I can't believe you were able to encapsulate what you've done so well

**Michael:** Seriously. I can't even tell you. I *can* kind of piggyback off of you, though, 'cause I can't tell you a lot of specific stuff I watched, but I can tell you some of the stuff we watched because I did a lot of franchise dives

**Brennan:** Oooh, okay

**Michael:** So Brian in the pandemic, he started becoming more of a horror fan when he met me, and started watching more horror, but during the pandemic we watched all the *Alien*s--

**Brennan:** Nice

**Michael:** We watched the first three *Hellraiser*s. After *Hellraiser III* he's like, "We're done!"

**Brennan:** Fair

**Michael:** (laughs) What else did we do? We did all the *Friday the 13th*s, like he made it all the way through, and that was really fun 'cause he had seen like (*Friday)* One, I know he had seen (*Friday*) Two, and I wanna say he had seen (*Friday*) Three. But he had seen them out of order, the first time he saw all three of them, I think he saw the third one first--

**Brennan:** The way it was meant to be seen!

**Michael:** Yeah, like when we went to a midnight showing way back. And then he's seen (*Friday*) Two a couple times, because (*Friday)* Two is my favorite. But we started from the beginning and it was *so fun* watching it with him, because I got to experience it through somebody else's eyes. And the thing I loved about it is after every single one he's like, "Let's watch another!" Not like right away, but he'd wanna watch the next one. *But*, we did make it through the first nine, but after (*Friday)* Seven, which is *New Blood*, that one ended and he goes, "I think we can take a break." (laughs) But literally the first six he's like, "Let's watch another! Let's watch another one soon!" He *loved* the first six, as most people do. And currently we're on the *Terminator* franchise

**Brennan:** Ooooh

**Michael:** Yeah. We watched the first three, so from here on out, it's kind of rough. At least I think so. And then also simultaneously we're doing *Child's Play*, and we watched *Bride of Chucky* last night and he *loved* it, which made me so happy. Fucking love it

**Brennan:** He's a human being with two eyes and a heart, Michael

**Michael:** (laughing) Right? *Right*? He actually said to me after *Child's Play 3*, he said if that's the worst one, like everyone says it is, then this series is really good. 'Cause he didn't dislike (*Child's Play*) *3*, he actually thought *3* was kind of enjoyable

**Brennan:** Yeah

**Michael:** Sure. I actually tweeted that this week, that (*Child's Play*) is the most consistent of the old-school slasher franchises as far as quality goes

**Brennan:** Yeah, absolutely

**Nay:** Yeah

**Michael:** *Right*? God bless Don Mancini, Daddy Donny. And I think that matters, the fact that he's shepherded the entire series and I can't tell you how excited I am for his TV show of *Chucky*. Did either of you see the trailer?

**Nay:** No

**Michael:** It came out months ago, but it was so cool

**Brennan:** It was just a teaser

**Michael:** Yeah, but it was such a good teaser and then the Chucky font was so great. It's got a great cast. So yeah, that's kind of what we've been watching. What else-- oh, and then I've done a lot of trash watching. Like new trash. I enjoyed the *fuck* out of *Unhinged*, it was so trashy I loved every second of that Russell Crowe movie--

**Brennan:** Oh yeah

**Michael:** Where he just plays a vicious psychopath that follows a woman in a car. And then I watched *Becky*, which was *so* fun. Have either of you seen it?

**Brennan:** No, that's the one about the girl who fights Nazi Kevin James, isn't it?

**Michael:** Nazi Kevin James, yeah. He's actually quite terrifying in the movie.

**Nay:** *Wow*

**Michael:** Yeah. He's actually very good as a Nazi (laughs)

**Nay:** *No*

**Michael:** And I mean that in like I'm not talking shit about Kevin James, but he actually gave a really scary performance. It was a cool, fun movie. So I've been doing a lot of that kind of watching. I need cotton candy. And then we, what else have we watched? A lot of sitcoms and shit. Just typical stuff that I always do

**Brennan:** I'm sure it'll come up every three seconds if you've been watching, you know, *Married… with Children* or something

**Michael:** I have. And then we've seen a little movie called *Freaky* like six times (laughs)

**Brennan:** (faux earnestly) I've never heard of it. Why don't you tell me about it a little bit?

**Michael:** (sighs) Oh, *Brennan!*

**Brennan:** (faux earnestly) Where can I find it online?

**Michael:** You can find it everywhere

**Michael:** What about you, Nay?

**Nay:** Oh my God, I'm trying to remember. I definitely have (sighs) I don't know why, but I have gone through all ten seasons of *The Walking Dead* twice now in the pandemic--

**Brennan:** *Wow*

**Nay:** I don't, I don't know. I just have it on in the background screaming, comforting me in the other room

**Michael:** Does it get better?

**Nay:** You know, the first time I tried to watch the show, there's a point where a certain person dies and I just didn't want to watch any more. But when I came back to it, I was able to stick with it. But I needed a lot of time to digest that one death 'cause it was awful. I hear that from a lot of people, that it was a stopping point for them

**Michael:** I feel like I know what you're talking about, but *I* had stopped midway through season six.

**Nay:** Mmm, okay, yeah

**Michael:** "I can't take this any more."

**Nay:** Yeah

**Michael:** But people have said this last season is like really good

**Nay:** Yeah, I think so

**Michael:** As far as like, creatively

**Nay:** Yes. So I've watched that *twice*. I've watched *The Handmaid's Tale*--

**Michael:** *Grey's Anatomy* (chuckles)

**Nay:** I was actually watching *The Handmaid's Tale* around the Capitol insurrection times so that was really interesting

**Brennan:** Ooof

**Nay:** Yes, that also happened since we've all met, (laughing) there was an attempted coup of the American government

**Michael:** Jesus fucking Christ! Ugh, I just thought of Lauren Bohbert's face

**Nay:** You stupid (laughs)

**Michael:** That fuckin' asshole

**Nay:** Oh my God

**Michael:** I hate her face. Do you know that her husband whipped his dick out at a bowling alley to like, thirteen year old girls?

**Nay:** Okay, I did not know that

**Michael:** And she saw him do it and did nothing about it, she just stood there and watched. Yeah, and now she's a member of the House of Representatives, just so you know, if you weren't aware

**Nay:** Wow

**Michael:** Mmm-hmm

**Nay:** Well, she fits in there

**Michael:** Yeah. Trash bitch.

**Brennan:** (to Nay) So you're only picking things that are hideously reflective of the way history is

**Nay:** Yes! I've noticed that. I was like, really obsessed with, my first round with *The Walking Dead* back in the March-April-May part of the pandemic because it felt *very* apocalyptic to me. I didn't have a car at the time. I was only leaving the house every few weeks to go to the grocery store with one of my roommates and it was *still* back in the time where traffic actually had kind of slowed down in Los Angeles?

**Brennan:** Mmm-hmm

**Nay:** And everything was still very unknown. We were just learning about how COVID spread and we didn't know if it was surface contamination yet, so you're like leaving once a month and then bringing your groceries home and then bleaching them. It felt--

**Michael:** Really weird

**Nay:** Yeah. And I feel like I did a lot of emergency prepping in the early stages of the pandemic as well

**Michael:** You should have seen my fucking cabinet. I had so many canned goods

**Nay:** Yeah (laughs) You know?

**Michael:** They made it sound like there was gonna be a food shortage and shit

**Nay:** Yeah

**Michael:** Nay, I remember you specifically texting me being like, "Are we gonna run out of vegetables?"

**Nay:** Yeah, I was like, "Is this a silly question?"

**Michael:** No, 'cause they made it sound like the farms were gonna fall apart

**Nay:** Yeah. I was like, "Is there gonna be a disruption in the food supply line? I dunno what's going on." So yeah, I was enjoying watching things slightly reflective of current events

**Michael:** Like *Grey's Anatomy*

**Nay:** Right. But I also noticed every time I start to watch something and it's between three and five A.M., for me to begin the thing, it always has Elizabeth Moss in it. I dunno what it is, but every time when I'm just like, "Oh, should I start something? No, crazy bitch it's three in the morning." But then I do it anyway and yeah, I put on something-- actually last night, it was three and I was like, oh, I'm just gonna put on *Us* and have it  on in the background. *How* did I forget her fucking performance in that?

**Michael:** She's so good

**Nay:** Specifically the performance of her tethered twin

**Brennan:** With the lipstick?

**Nay:** *Psychotic*, oh my God. But you know who actually is the *scariest* tethered twin to me? It's actually the daughter's tethered

**Michael:** Mmm-hmm

**Nay:** That bitch scares the shit outta me. Her eyes freak me the fuck out. The pace of her walk, just the way she stares, oh my God it really scares the shit out of me it's crazy. So yeah, watching scary stressful things per usual

**Brennan:** Do you find that it kind of exorcises how you feel in any way?

**Nay:** Yes, definitely a little bit, but something I realized early on in the pandemic, I felt something about how anxious I've always been and the kind of spiraling I've always done, or the disastrous, the way that my thoughts always go to disaster, I felt a little bit prepared for the size of emergency that was happening. I felt a little bit validated. I was like, "You know what? I have been worried about something like this *my whole life*." (laughs)

**Michael:** (laughing) Oh my God!

**Nay:** I'm like, "Oh my God, finally something--" and not that I was grateful for the pandemic, of course not

**Brennan:** Of course not

**Michael:** Of course not

**Nay:** But it was just like a very useless, "I told you so" inside of me to like, everything else, which like I said, useless, doesn't matter, but it's kind of empowering to watch things where like, I would have made a better decision than the person in the movie, or I feel like really confident in my problem-solving skills or I dunno, something along those lines. I feel like it's pretty cathartic

**Michael:** Yeah

**Brennan:** Yeah, no, that's great. That's important because everybody faces this kind of insurmountable challenge differently

**Nay:** Right? Okay, if that's not something we're learning right now, the *wide* variety of ways a human can respond to shit? Oh my God, it's actually exhausting and one of my least favorite things right now, just the sheer large amount of options for how a human can behave. It is just too much

**Michael:** The thing that blows my mind is I mean, maybe we're not handling, but just the volume of shit tossed at our brains in the last year?

**Nay:** Yeah

**Michael:** I mean, between the pandemic and fuckin' murderer cops and--

**Nay:** Yeah

**Michael:** People running on grocery stores to get fucking toilet paper and the insurrection and the election and it's just like, "Oh my God." I remember one day just waking up and just being like, "My brain is full. I can't handle another giant piece of information." I talked to my therapist about that and he's like, "How do you feel about that?" And I'm like, "I resent most of it." Our brains aren't wired to deal with all of this at once? And nobody's helping us, nobody's helping us. I was talking about that with people like how, I think I was saying it to you guys before the show started and I tweeted it before the show started, how even insurance companies, companies in the beginning of the pandemic were like, "We're here to help." Like Zoom for instance, we're doing this on Zoom. We're gonna have to do a second session because we're gonna get kicked off after forty minutes. In the beginning they were like, "Unlimited Zooms so you can connect with your family and friends!" And then one day they were just like, "You know what? Fuck you. We know this shit ain't over. We know that you're still sitting in your living room, but we're done giving you this." Or how insurance companies were like, "Here's fifty bucks off your insurance 'cause we know your car's sitting on Havenhurst Drive for ten months in a row and you're not driving it." But one day they woke up and were just like, "We want it all, man." (chuckles) "This month you're paying in full." And you see businesses, like I know friends of mine who work for major corporations, they don't get their cellphone bills paid for, they don't get, you know what I mean, there's just, I dunno. It's just wild to me how everything that runs this country just decided, "This is what we're doing now and everyone has to deal with it."

**Brennan:** Weirdly, I think Zoom was listening because a pop-up just showed up on my window--

**Michael:** I saw that!

**Brennan:** That said, "Here's a gift from Zoom. We are getting rid of the forty-minute block for this *one* call." So…

**Michael:** Okay, that's scary. I saw that alert right after I said that.

**Nay:** *Okay…*

**Michael:** Zoom, if you're listening, give it to me free every day. Give it to Brennan free every day. Give it to Nay free every day.

**Nay:** *Yeah*

**Michael:** We have loyal listeners, and we could kill you. No, I'm kidding. (laughs)

**Brennan:** You're right

**Michael:** *Weird*, by the way. I'm sorry, I'm not over that pop-up, like, "now you have unlimited minutes", like what the fuck?!? I want a million dollars! Where's the alert, Zoom? (giggles)

**Nay:** That reminds me, actually. I did watch *Host* finally.

**Brennan:** Ohhh, what did you think?

**Michael:** Ahhh, what didja think?

**Nay:** I mean, I feel like it took me so long because I just wasn't interested in COVID being part of something I was watching

**Brennan:** Mmm-hmm

**Nay:** Even though I can't stop thinking about COVID while I'm watching things. Like when people are sitting close together or they walk into a restaurant, I'm thinking about it. So it took me awhile to watch (*Host*). Definitely, I definitely understand why it's scary and how it's scary, and it was very easy for me to keep watching it.

**Brennan:** Okay, that's good

**Michael:** Yeah

**Brennan:** I think that's a mental space that, you know, you can occupy one day and then not the next day

**Nay:** Yeah

**Brennan:** 'Cause I mean the same thing, your applying that lens to everything you're watching, I watched the Kristen Stewart *Charlie's Angels* (2019) movie and she keeps touching her face in that role and I was like, "Whoa. No no no no." And I'm now watching season two of *Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist*, which was filmed during the pandemic. So I'm like eagle eye counting how many background extras there are and *how* they did it. You're never *not* thinking about it. So when the property's actually engaging with it directly, it's odd

**Michael:** Well, you know, it's not weird that you bring that up, but as the whole entire world knows at this point, that I'm an avid *Scream* fan and they shot *Scream* (2022) during COVID, the new *Scream*. So I'm curious to see that movie especially, but also other stuff, like *films* that have been shot during this, to see if it affects my viewing of it. 'Cause knowing *Scream* was shot during COVID, I hope I'm not distracted by the thought of being like, "They shot this during COVID." You know what I mean? Does that make sense?

**Brennan:** Yes

**Michael:** I don't know how to put it verbally, but it's wild to me, I know people that were on that movie and they, like at least *Scream* and several other people who had movies made during lockdown and they were like the safest places in the world to be is what it sounded like to me. Like the amount of testing they did, they would put people in groups and you *couldn't* literally associate with other groups. Like you had to detain yourself from other groups working on the movie. And from what I've heard from people is that it was a safe experience, but the only thing they missed about it was the absolute joy you have from two hundred people literally being together making the same thing. But curious, yeah. Like *Grey's* (*Anatomy*) is totally within the pandemic. And I watched two shows that are dealing with the pandemic. One I can't even watch anymore because it's all about the pandemic and this is a sitcom first of all and you're just bumming me the hell out. But *Grey's* for some reason I find it comforting. And I actually haven't seen *Host* yet because I'm afraid to see it be8of the Zoom aspect. Not because of the scares but because I literally hate Zoom so much

**Nay:** Right

**Michael:** I've had a hard time getting myself to watch the movie, 'cause I want to give the movie the absolute attention it deserves, because I've heard nothing but amazing things about it. But I dunno, *Grey's* for some reason with the COVID I'm like, this is like a warm blanket, and I think it's because they set it six months in the past, right? Like it's at the beginning of COVID, so we're watching them learn about things we *do* know the answers to now, but I also think it's, Nay are you caught up?

**Nay:** No.

**Michael:** You're not caught up? Well I think at least once an episode someone has like a giant fuckin' awesome pissed off monologue about the state of America via COVID--

**Nay:** Nice

**Michael:** And it's just so cathartic to hear like Maggie talk about how COVID is affecting her community more than Amelia's white girl community and it's just so cathartic to see that on a mainstream television show that's being seen by like, fifteen million people. And I'm talking like mon-o-logues. Not like, "This is bad!" It's like, "Fuck this!" And it's just, I dunno. It's comforting. Then I watch other shows and they're dealing with COVID and they have a mask on in a scene but then they take it off? But they don't take it off for any other reason than to take it off and talk to people and I'm like, "Are we wearing the masks or not? Make a decision here."

**Brennan:** Yeah. I've never watched *Superstore*, but from the promos I've seen it seems super inconsistent and *does* alarm me

**Michael:** That wasn't the show I was referencing, mine is *The Conners*. I watch *The Conners* still and they're dealing with the pandemic and they'll do the same thing where they'll be in a scene where they have their masks on and they just take them off. And I don't know if they're just reminding people to wear their masks, but then it's not on the rest of the time

**Nay:** People be like that, though

**Michael:** That's true

**Nay:** *Why* are you taking that off? I have seen people take off their masks to sneeze

**Brennan:** Yeah, which is stupid

**Nay:** I'm like, this is exactly why you need the mask. Not to take it off like, "I don't wanna have that close in with me." Yeah, that's the point. I don't want it around me either

**Michael:** Right!

**Nay:** No, I can't (chuckles)

**Brennan:** One thing I will say that I hope is *encouraging* to people is that obviously we see a lot of things on Instagram or Twitter or whatever, but people wearing masks improperly, still not social distancing and of course there's still the really horrible, "The restaurants are back open!" And people are just going and it's really really disheartening. But I do, I work in a retail setting, which, let me tell you, it's been weird!

**Michael:** Oh, God. I'm sure

**Brennan:** But I would say that although it seems like you're being constantly bombarded with people improperly using their mask or just making really objectively stupid decisions, what I've seen in my day-to-day is ninety-six percent of the people actually doing things right

**Michael:** Okay, that's good

**Brennan:** And following the rules, and this was not the case in May, when we reopened. But by this point people *generally* know what they're doing, have accepted the responsibility and the people that aren't doing it well tend to not react poorly when you tell them to do it better. And that's the experience that *I've* had. I am frequently torn between lots of huge emotions while at work in this environment--

**Michael:** Oh, I'm sure

**Brennan:** Sometimes it's this kind of overwhelming *nice* feeling of that generally everyone around me is taking responsibility for each other and I do feel connected in that way, of like, "Holy shit. We're doing this. It's happening."

**Michael:** That's good

**Brennan:** And then sometimes I feel the exact *opposite*. *But*, you know. We're all doing it, trying to exist in this world and I think for the most part we're accomplishing it?

**Michael:** (laughs) Okay!

**Brennan:** Look--

**Michael:** I walk my dog and half the time the people I walk past aren't wearing a mask, so

**Brennan:** Look, outdoors is fuckin' wild west. It's a free-for-all

**Michael:** Yeah

**Brennan:** Don't even worry about it

**Michael:** Oh that's right, you were talking about inside at a shop

**Brennan:** I am taking about inside situations.

**Michael:** That's good

**Brennan:** Outdoors people haven't figured their shit out. I'm never feeling that

**Michael:** I had to stop saying stuff to people outside I see not wearing them because the last two times I said something I might have gone a little cray-cray. (giggles) Granted the last time was on the day of the coup, I had literally been watching the coup play out on TV for three hours and I walked Scooby and I saw this couple with their dog. First of all the dog wasn't leashed and it started running after Scooby which pissed me off to begin with. And then miss lady not wearing, they had masks, but they were under their fucking chins--

**Brennan:** Oh great

**Michael:** And that makes me more upset than people not wearing or even having one for some reason? Maybe because it's two feet away from their fuckin' mouth? But I said something. The woman actually said, "I'm really sorry," because the dog was running after my dog. And I was like, "Yeah, I don't know if I'm more annoyed with the fact that your dog isn't on a leash or that neither of you have masks on." That's all I said. And her reply is, (as an indignant white woman) "Are you fucking kidding me?" (normal voice) And I was like, "No, bitch. I'm not fucking kidding." She's like, "I'm talking to him." I'm like, "Yeah. You can do it through a mask. People are fucking *dying* because of you." So I went full nuts on this woman and I think I just saw too many Karens in a short amount of time leading up to this woman. But I think her reaction was bullshit.

**Brennan:** Yeah.

**Michael:** 'Cause like, start wearing a mask! Put a mask on

**Brennan:** Or people who are like, "I just took my mask off because I'm talking on the phone," it's like, "You know how you can hear me right now? Because it's not blocking the noise."

**Michael:** Right. Also, no one needs to talk on the phone. No one does. It's like we've learned that.

**Brennan:** That's fair

**Michael:** Nothing needs to happen on the phone. We can email. So, I dunno. I just can't stand when I'm like, "Can you put your mask on?" And they're like, (as an indignant white woman) "Are you fucking kidding?" (normal voice) I'm like, "No. I'm not. Also, are you really getting mad at me? (chuckles).There's a pandemic going on!"

**Brennan:** And you know, there are *all* types of people out there in the world

**Brennan:** Have either of you seen the movie *Support the Girls*?

**Nay:** Mmmmm

**Michael:** Is that with Regina Hall?

**Brennan:** Yes

**Michael:** I hear it's wonderful

**Brennan:** Oh yeah, no, it's terrific. I highly recommend it. But it opens on a scene of Regina Hall, who is the manager of this Hooters-style restaurant in this movie, just sitting in her car crying on her steering wheel. And like, that is me every morning. I'm not gonna, you know, lie about it

**Michael:** Oh my God, Brennan

**Brennan:** But there are, sometimes the general feeling is that things are kind of happening in a way that they're *trying* to take care of each other and that is nice to see. And that's not always the situation as evidenced by, you know, Michael's story. But a lot of people are doing the work and a lot of people are trying. And I want to say kudos to all of you, please keep doing it, you know, it's really really hard. And I, you know, the only way to get through this is together

**Nay:** Okay, you know what, Brennan? That, I, that is slightly encouraging because I feel the complete opposite. I think that no one is doing anything, and that everything sucks, and nothing is going well and actually the worst part of all of this is that we have to do it together (laughs)

**Michael:** Yeah, I feel like someone tweeted something like that. "When people say, 'We're in this together,' it's like yeah bitch, that's why this is so bad." (laughs)

**Brennan:** It is. Both can be true

**Michael:** Yeah

**Brennan:** Because there are people who are doing it right and there are people who are doing it wrong. Like there's a good-bad. I would say not an overwhelming majority but an over fifty percent majority of people *are* on the right side of doing things. And I wish that the people on the wrong side of doing things, that was a much smaller proportion. And I dunno, I'm not trying to be posi about this in any way, because it's all shitty and terrible. But I dunno, I just wanna bring up the fact that there are people who are doing it. And there are more of them than the people who aren't. And whether or not that is something you can look on as a good thing is, you know, completely relative, but I'm glad that people are trying in general, because it is true. It is a thing where we're all in this together, but we're also stuck in this together and my personal safety depends on other people a lot more than I'd rather be the case--

**Michael:** Uh-huh

**Nay:** Yeah

**Brennan:** I'm glad that *more* of those people are trying than not

**Nay:** Yeah

**Michael:** I actually have (*My Bloody Valentine*) playing right now on my TV as we're recording and it feels like it's gotta be a rarity in the Eighties slasher, the age group that is actually in the film. 'Cause how old do you think these characters are supposed to be? Like in their mid-twenties? Right?

**Brennan:** Yeah, early to mid-twenties

**Michael:** Or are they supposed to be just out of high school? And it's a coal mining town so everyone literally graduates and works at the mine, but they all look like they're about thirty-five, but then again it was the Eighties

**Nay:** Also, you know, that's a really good question because as soon as there's talk of having a dance, I'm like, "Oh, these people are in high school."

**Michael:** (laughs) That's a good point

**Nay:** And because it's a coal mining town, I'm like, "Well, maybe some people in high school work at the mine, not going to high school," you know, all these different possibilities--

**Michael:** That's true!

**Nay:** But you're right, they look so much older, but I just can't, I have no idea. (chuckles)

**Michael:** Well, one of the characters… are their names the same as in the remake? Tom and Axel? Is it Tom and Axel?

**Brennan:** TJ

**Nay:** TJ

**Michael:** TJ was gone for a few years, right?

**Brennan:** He went to the west coast to try and make it as a (confused noise). But yeah, it's unclear which west coast TJ went to, or why. It's like, did he go to Vancouver, did he go to L.A., did he go to the west of France? Who knows

**Michael:** For some reason I told myself it was in Oregon. I don't know why.

**Brennan:** (TJ) started a tiny coffee company

**Michael:** (laughs) Yeah. He started a dot-com? But I've always assumed they're supposed to be in their twenties

**Nay:** Yeah, that makes sense though

**Michael:** Well, either way, they're not in school.

**Nay:** Yeah

**Michael:** Or doing a teenage thing at camp or anything, so I think it's a pretty rare, don't you think, in the Eighties, a rare package of people in one of these films? Although I guess in *Halloween II* is all adults, but you still have your main character as a high school student. I dunno. I really like this movie

**Brennan:** Oh, yeah!

**Michael:** It's really fun

**Brennan:** Okay, around the table, when's the first time you watched this movie? How long has this movie been in your life?

**Nay:** Oh, I only watched it a couple years ago

**Michael:** What about you, B?

**Brennan:** I, *God,* it was one of the earlier slashers I watched, so probably like a decade ago at this point?

**Michael:** Okay. I think for me, it was probably in college because I remember *Scream* (1996) was my gateway and then definitely the first thing I did was consume *Halloween* (1978), *Nightmare* (*on Elm Street*) (1984) and *Friday* (*the 13th*), those series. And Leatherface. But I feel like after I, 'cause I watched 'em all in a row, like I'd watch the whole *Halloween* series in a row, I did *Friday the 13th* and I remember really loving those and trying to find any Paramount slasher film I could get my hands on. So I think this was one of the first after the three or four main franchises, so I'd say about twenty years. Yeah

**Brennan:** So Nay, you've seen it most recently

**Nay:** Yes

**Brennan:** How did it, like, watching it in the modern times that we live in, how did it treat you the first time and did that change at all?

**Nay:** No, I really liked it because it always reminds me of this old boss I had when I used to work at Sunglass Hut in the mall, because she was from a nearby town that had a mine and her husband worked in the mine but she also had two boyfriends who were brothers--

**Brennan:** (gasps)

**Nay:** But the brothers didn't know that she was dating both of them. And so it just really brought back some hilarious memories. I feel like I always felt like, I dunno, I could just imagine her living there (chuckles) and, I dunno, it's always felt good to watch even though I've probably only seen it now four or five times. No, not even five. I'd say three or four. But yeah, I liked it the first time I watched it, and I definitely wished I had seen it much earlier

**Michael:** It definitely has that, I'm actually looking at it right now. It's at the climax just playing silently above me. I just happened to look and there's the sheriff and the mayor and the kids and all this stuff and it's really authentic. Like it feels like a small town, the characters feel like they actually live there. No one's mocking small towns, either, if that makes sense. I feel like that poor woman that dies in the laundry, what is her name?

**Nay:** Madel, Mabel

**Michael:** Yeah

**Nay:** Mabel!

**Michael:** The best way I could describe it is I don't get this a lot in modern films, I think and I don't know if it's because you know, this was essentially made when I was *one*, so before I was born, but I find a lot of these older films, I describe it as, "These people didn't know they were making a movie." And I mean that in a very complimentary way, like they feel real. They feel more real to me than modern films in a way and maybe it's just 'cause I know the process and everything's a spectacle and you can see the, there's not a Thanos in life. But I get the, I love the authenticity of this movie, where it feels like these people are small town folks, but it's not people making fun of what small town folks may look and sound like

**Brennan:** Yeah! And you know, that's the striking thing about this movie, is that it's the verisimilitude of they actually filmed in a mining town. Literally in a mine. The reason that the mine shots are so moodily lit is because they couldn't have brighter lights because they might cause explosions

**Michael:** (chuckling) Oh my gosh! What a dangerous shoot

**Brennan:** Yeah, it's the magic of that *real* location, and it allows for a lot of things that might seem cliche or silly in other movies too, like the idea that you know, there's a Valentine's dance and it's such a big deal and it's like, "Of course it would be. You're in a town called Valentine Bluffs so it's kind of like your cutesy little town thing. And also, there's nothing else going on."

**Michael:** Of course!

**Brennan:** Like it makes sense why this would be *such* an important thing that you'd ditch your miner buddies to a cave-in to go to this dance!

**Michael:** They're running through the mine now and as soon as you said that Brennan, I was like, "Holy shit that's like an amazing shot."

**Brennan:** Mmm-hmm

**Michael:** And it was literally of them walking backwards, the killer is chasing them. We see his back and we see them walking backwards and you see all the way down this tunnel. I looked up right when you said that and you *can't* buy that. You can't *buy* that look at all. You shoot that on a set, it's not the same, you know? I hate to bring up *Freaky* here and there, I mean I don't--

**Brennan:** Bring it up!

**Michael:** Even when we were shooting that, we used, Chris (Landon) used practical locations I'd say ninety percent of the shoot. Like that house in the opening scene is actually a mansion that we shot in, the high school is a high school and it totally makes a difference. It just adds a layer of like I said, authenticity and realness and it brings you immediately into the mood of where you're at. And I'm watching this now, and now I'm thinking, "How did none of these people actually die?" Because a bunch of shit just fell on top of them and I'm like, that can't have been safe (laughs)

**Brennan:** Yeah, I'm not clear on how they made it out of there

**Michael:** We had a day where we got shut down shooting *Freaky* because the wind was too high, and we were shooting outside. If the wind gets past a certain mile per hour, you legally can't shoot. And we were using these giant lights and it just was unsafe to shoot with the wind, because the lights could fall and break and explode and all this stuff and I'm just thinking to myself, "There's no way you could shoot this fuckin' movie right now." (chuckles) "Oh, but we'll let you go into a mine!" (laughs)

**Brennan:** No way

**Nay:** *No*

**Michael:** Although the (*My Bloody Valentine*) remake shot in a real mine, too. But it was an old mine that was no longer working. I know this because I had a friend that worked at Lionsgate at the time and he explained how they were able to shoot in a real mine, so there was no chances for gas or anything like that. But they did shoot in a real mine, too. And again, it makes a difference because I watched that today as well. Jensen Ackles is hot.

**Michael:** What do you think of this movie? Is it just *Friday the 13th* (1980) in a different setting? And is that a bad thing? Explain to me what you think the movie is. I'd love to hear what your-- 'cause I feel like it stands out compared to the other Eighties slashers outside of the big ones, right? I feel like it's one of the ones that's more well-received. I personally think it's one of the most technically well-done of the non-franchise slasher movies of the Eighties. I think it's pretty well acted. I dunno, what do you think? I personally think it's just a *Friday the 13th* movie but on Valentine's Day in a coal-mining town, but it works, it all works for me

**Nay:** Yeah

**Michael:** It's like one of those movies like, *The Conjuring* is a good example of a modern movie where I feel like James Wan wasn't reinventing the wheel, he just did the classic haunted house movie so fucking well. And I think that's what this movie does. It just does the slasher *really* well

**Brennan:** Yeah. And I think it's unfair to criticize a slasher movie for being on formula

**Michael:** Mmm-hmm. Especially then

**Brennan:** Yeah, especially then. Like, Eighty-one, it had really just started coming into fruition of what that even was

**Michael:** And I'll see you one better and say it helped create the formula

**Brennan:** Yeah!

**Michael:** Right? 'Cause what had been out by then? *Maybe* two *Friday the 13th*s, one *Halloween* (1978) and one *Prom Night* (1980)?

**Brennan:** Roughly

**Michael:** So, and *Terror Train*

**Brennan:** And obviously, 1980 was-- not to get, I won't get all into the annoying slasher history of it 'cause I've *literally* watched these movies in order. But yeah, you've got *Prom Night*, *Terror Train*, *New Year's Evil*, like you've gotten a lot of the basic structure of weird, like movies in 1980 were *still* kind of copying *Halloween*--

**Michael:** They were still classy

**Brennan:** They were copying *Psycho* (1965) for no reason I can understand

**Michael:** And they still had, I can't think of a better term, a classy quality to them

**Brennan:** An attempt at classy

**Michael:** Yeah, like there was still decent performances and there was budgets and there was a want to be scary as opposed to just schlocking together a film

**Brennan:** But yeah, I think by 1981, the model definitely was like, yeah, a *Friday the 13th*, that movie was such a massive success where they're like, "Okay, we can really pare this down, have this stripped down central idea and as long as we have good kills or good gore, we can get away with it." But the thing about Canadian slasher movies is that *most* of the time the Canadian filmmakers were like, "Yeah, but what if we did it good, though?"

**Michael:** (giggles) Right? It's so true! Like, "What if we did that, but well?" 'Cause that's exactly what *My Bloody Valentine* is, you know?

**Brennan:** Oh, absolutely!

**Michael:** *Happy Birthday to Me* is another that I think is just really well done

**Brennan:** Yeah, such a blast. Again, Canada, they really know what they're doing. Except for Paul Lynch who made *Prom Night* (1980) and *Humongous*, which are two of the worst Canadian slasher movies (laughs)

**Michael:** Can we talk about that real quick? *Prom Night*?

**Brennan:** Sure

**Nay:** Yeah. Of course

**Michael:** Do we think, 'cause I'm a huge person-- huge person. I've said this many times--

**Brennan:** You *are* very tall!

**Michael:** (laughs) Yes. I've said this several times that Harry Warden deserved six films. I think that there should be seven *My Bloody Valentine*s and not just one

**Brennan:** Mmm-hmm

**Michael:** And I know, I mean, financially it performed less than Paramount was hoping off of *Friday the 13th Part One and Two.* But, is it well known? Do you think it's got a huge following or do you think it has a cult following? And do you think, because people talk about *Prom Night* and I personally think that's only because Jamie Lee Curtis is in it. I definitely think *My Bloody Valentine*'s a better movie but I feel like it isn't as remembered by as many people as it should be

**Brennan:** I would say-- the way I try to gauge these things is what movies I heard of in high school. Like before I was starting to learn about horror movies and read about all the history. And *My Bloody Valentine* I definitely knew existed. I mean there's a whole *band* named after it--

**Michael:** Yeah, that's so funny

**Brennan:** In the consciousness somewhere

**Michael:** So what do you think *My Bloody Valentine*'s IMDb score is? 'Cause I'm looking at it right now

**Nay:** (laughs) What is it?

**Michael:** You wanna venture a guess?

**Nay:** No. I want you to tell me (laughs)

**Michael:** It's a 6.3, which is really good

**Brennan:** For a slasher, definitely

**Michael:** For a slasher movie that's really good. *Terror Train*'s got a 5.9

**Brennan:** Ehhh, that's probably about right

**Michael:** That's about right. Let's see what *The Fog* (1980) has. Now I'm obsessed with this. 6.8. Let's see what the remake has. (laughs) I'm so obsessed with this. 5.4! That seems low, for the remake. Anyway

**Brennan:** What you said about (*My Bloody Valentine*), that it deserved a franchise, I definitely think yeah, the kind of miner pickaxe killer, that setting definitely deserves more exploration. I think this movie does not set itself up particularly well for a sequel following the twist that Harry Warden is not the killer--

**Michael:** Right

**Brennan:** And it's rather the dorky love triangle guy Axel. *But*, *Friday the 13th* survived as a huge franchise despite Jason literally being dead from frame one of the movie, so. They could've made it work

**Michael:** (chuckles) Yeah, they could've definitely made it work

**Brennan:** They could have been, "Oh, never mind, Harry Warden's here. There you go. Here's eighteen--"

**Nay:** Right

**Michael:** "Here's the ghost of Harry Warden."

**Brennan:** *I'll Always Know What You Did Last Summer* style?

**Nay:** Team Axel or Team TJ?

**Brennan:** Eee-yecch, *why* would you ask that?

**Michael:** That's a hard question. Can I be neither? (giggles)

**Nay:** Okay. Marry Bury Fuck: Axel, TJ, Harry Warden

**Michael:** I've never heard of it as "Marry Bury Fuck". I love that. I've always heard it as, "Fuck Marry Kill". (to Nay) Say it again? "Marry Bury Fuck"?

**Nay:** Yeah. Marry Bury Fuck: Axel, TJ and Harry Warden

**Michael:** Okay, I'd marry TJ--

**Nay:** Oh yeah

**Michael:** I'd fuck Harry Warden

**Nay:** Yes! *Yes!*

**Michael:** And I'd bury Axel (laughs)

**Nay:** *Yes!* I a hundred percent agree, yes

**Brennan:** Oooh, I'm really conflicted because I *hate* TJ

**Nay:** Well, yeah (laughs)

**Brennan:** I mean of course. But he's got the soft butch vibes that I want

**Nay:** Okay, okay

**Brennan:** So I think I'd fuck TJ and his increasingly plunging necklines on all of his shirts

**Michael:** That's hot

**Nay:** Yes

**Brennan:** I think marry Harry Warden because he's good at planning, he's got a lot of follow-through

**Michael:** We all agree-- you'd marry Harry?

**Brennan:** Yeah, I think so

**Michael:** You're banging TJ? Okay

**Nay:** Harry's the hottest in the movie

**Brennan:** And you know, he's a survivor. He does what he needs to

**Michael:** (sings to the tune of "Survivor") "He's a survivor, he's not gon' give up…"

**Brennan:** And I guess that means kill Axel, although I guess on the *teams* aspect if I *had* to pick I guess I'd say I'm Team Axel? Because TJ is--

**Nay:** *Wooooow*

**Brennan:** Well, TJ is real, he just barged right on in and is like, "I just ditched this girl Sara to move to the west coast of wherever and I came back so I deserve to have her from you." First of all, that's not how relationships work. You can't decide who someone is going to be with.

**Michael:** That's why they righted the ship with Tom in the remake, he wasn't really trying to get Sara back

**Brennan:** Which is good

**Michael:** Yeah

**Brennan:** And I do appreciate that this movie, it does *hint* at a TJ/Sara kind of romantic pairing at the end but it doesn't fully commit to it, and I'm really grateful for that

**Nay:** Yeah

**Brennan:** Because TJ really is possessive and presumptuous. And the part where he's trying to be playful and he takes her out to that *beautiful* cape, like on that point--

**Michael:** Isn't it gorgeous?

**Brennan:** It's gorgeous

**Michael:** It's gorgeous

**Brennan:** But the part where she's like, "I don't wanna get in the car. Aren't you gonna tell me where we're going?" And he like, *shoves* her in and I'm like, that's not cute. That's not cute

**Nay:** Yeah, no. I'd beat your ass

**Michael:** Yeah, they spend like forty-five minutes tossing her ass around like she's Raggedy-Ann. It's the one big thing I took away from it, because I watched it last Valentine's Day, I watch it every Valentine's Day. I know I feel like that was the first movie we did, I do a Friday night movie club every Friday with a small group of friends and we text, everyone does it from home and we all text throughout the movie. And I feel like that was one of the first ones we did. And it was the first time I remember really paying attention to that, or *noticing* that, because I probably hadn't seen it in a long time, but I remember being like, "God. They're both treatin' her like shit!" Like, Team Sara Solo!

**Brennan:** Yeah

**Nay:** Yes!

**Michael:** You know? Run away with your friend in the red dress. There's lezzie vibes there

**Nay:** Yes

**Michael:** Right? And she's cute

**Nay:** Yes, she's cute

**Michael:** What is her name?

**Nay:** I forget. Hollis's girl?

**Michael:** I always get bummed out when she dies

**Nay:** Oh yes

**Brennan:** Yeah, her and Hollis are very pure and sweet

**Michael:** Mmm-hmm

**Nay:** I have a note here that I must have written down at some point while watching this and all it says is, "Mining dirt needs to chill." And that's because sometimes I glance at some of these miners and am constantly reminding myself that it's not blackface. I'm like, "These actors are *not*, they're *not* in blackface. This is…" So yeah. Mining dirt needs to chill. (laughs)

**Michael:** It kind of does

**Brennan:** Overzealous makeup person?

**Nay:** Oh yes. Toe the fuckin' line, makeup artist. (laughing) Be careful!

**Michael:** How about when they're showering? And they're all showering under like, rain drops?

**Nay:** Yeah

**Michael:** And then they rush out to go to the bar and they're all squeaky clean? I'm like, "You all ran out of that shower disgustingly dirty still." (giggles) 'Cause like you said, girlfriend with the charcoal needed a needed a fuckin' whole-ass bath

**Nay:** (laughing) Okay! *Thank you*! Even if that is realistic, I really need you to pump the brakes on this

**Michael:** Right! Maybe err on the side of caution here

**Nay:** Right (laughs) Oh my *God*

**Brennan:** It's like, we get it, that they work in the mine

**Michael:** Yeah, they work in the mine. The miner helmet's good enough (laughs)

**Brennan:** Yeah. That'll do it

**Nay:** I have a question for both of you

**Brennan:** Okay

**Nay:** If you have a memory, what was your worst Valentine's Day as a kid? Like what was a memory of a horrible Valentine's Day?

**Michael:** I know mine

**Nay:** I don't know if you have one. Mine, I can remember people paying like twenty-five or fifty cents to send candygrams to people and someone would come in your class and interrupt the teacher--

**Michael:** Like *Mean Girls*

**Nay:** Yeah! Exactly. Like, "Here's six candygrams. Oh my God you're so popular!" And every year being like, "Oh my God this is gonna be so embarrassing because I'm gonna get like *one*." Which is more embarrassing than zero, because then they're announcing it and coming in to you. But we always had a Valentine's Day banquet because we weren't allowed to have a prom, obviously, because dancing is a sin. So all of this planning would go into, seriously, someone's mom making a bunch of frozen fucking lasagnas and serving it in some room where the people that liked each other would sit by each other and everyone else would be jealous that there were people that liked other people. But I remember just hating it every year because it would bring attention to people who had crushes on each other and I was just never in that group of people. And so I didn't really like it until I was an adult and I could either actually celebrate with people romantically or also acknowledge the importance of love in friendship

**Brennan and Michael:** Mmm-hmm

**Nay:** But I don't have like a specific childhood traumatizing Valentine's Day story

**Michael:** I don't have a traumatizing one, but I definitely-- when I was in college, I had a girlfriend and we dated for a few months. And Valentine's Day was in the middle of it, and I remember specifically being out to dinner and I think we went to fuckin' ChiChi's or something,just sitting there and having a moment of, "What am I doing?" Like, having one of my very first honest moments with myself, looking at this girl and being like, "You don't like this person!" (laughs)

**Brennan:** *Damn*

**Michael:** "You like her *enough* as like a human being, but you're not sexually attracted to this person." And just getting really sad being like, "Here I am, doing this thing," you know what I mean? Doing this thing, pretending to do this thing--

**Nay:** Yes

**Michael:** To stay hidden and just being bummed out about it. I remember that experience pretty vividly because it was one of the first times I was very self-aware of *all* that comes with being gay and closeted and fully knowing and fully hating--

**Nay:** Mmm-hmm

**Michael:** Like the situation I was allowing myself to be in. But also feeling forced to be in, you know what I mean? In a way? And resenting her (chuckles)

**Nay:** Yeah

**Michael:** Just being like, "Can't you tell? Don't you know? Why are you on a date with me? I'm gay." That's one of the *first* Valentine's Days. I don't remember much as a kid 'cause I feel like it was not so drastic of like candy canes and shit, but I remember trading Valentine's cards that you'd have to *draw* and you'd trade them with each other at school and shit. It's so stupid. Doing that with second graders? Why the fuck are they exchanging valentines? It's so weird, right? Why are adults so weird?

**Brennan:** Yeah

**Michael:** And perpetuating heterosexuality on six-year-olds. It's like, (giggles) "Go tell Cindy you love her! But don't you have sex with anyone 'til you're fifty!" (chuckles) So weird

**Brennan:** I was gonna say, my elementary school, we did do a valentine pass-out thing. To avoid the candygram problem we were forced to give valentines to every single member of our class

**Michael:** I feel like we had to do that, too

**Brennan:** Yeah, we'd just have like a bag of Snoopy valentines at the end of the day. But my terrible straight Valentine's Day was in junior high. I had been dating a girl for all of five days, which was *pretty long* for junior high

**Nay:** Right. Right

**Michael:** Big time

**Brennan:** And a friend of ours locked us out of the Drama room until we kissed, which is basically how romance happened in junior high.

**Nay:** Right

**Brennan:** And so I was like, "All right." 'Cause I was kind of excited, 'cause I was like, i don't think I've ever attempted to kiss anyone before so I was like, "All right. Let's try this. Let's see what's up." And I closed my eyes and I just completely missed her mouth. I don't know where I made contact, I was too nervous and my eyes were too closed, but it was very clear that it was not the proper application. And then the next day she broke up with me. And *literally* in a doorway. It was also in front of the Drama room

**Michael:** In a doorway?

**Brennan:** It was also in front of the Drama room. She was like, she had two friends *flanking* her as backup and she was like, "We can't be together anymore." And I was like, "Fine." And I just closed the door in her face. (chuckles) Which was a very satisfying dramatic moment

**Michael:** Ooof (giggles)

**Nay:** Okay, that was amazing. Oh my God, that was good. Thank you Brennan (laughs)

**Brennan:** You're welcome

**Nay:** That was hilarious (laughs)

**Nay:** ...I *do* have one more question for the both of you but it is *not* related to the movie, it's just something that came up the other day and I was like, "Oh. I would like to ask both of these people this question."

**Brennan:** Okay

**Nay:** Okay, so. (giggles) This actually started because Michael texted me something about wanting to push Nancy Reagan down the stairs. (laughs)

**Brennan:** Okay, fair

**Michael:** I know. What did I say? "How satisfying would it have been to push that woman down a flight of stairs."

**Nay:** And it had me thinking, I'd really like to know from both of you, the *top three* people you would push down the stairs, and what kind of stairs. It's optional what kind of stairs but if you have an idea of what kind of stairs--

**Michael:** Brennan, the stairs are part of it, too because I sent, I not only told Nay I wanted to-- how satisfying it would have been, but Nay said something about a certain type of stairs and I was like, "Oh, those steps from *Annie* (198X)?" And I sent her a picture of Annie and Daddy Warbucks walking down his marble staircase

**Brennan:** Oh, *wow*

**Michael:** It's fucking huge! It's so big!

**Brennan:** Oooh. Okay.

**Michael:** So Nancy and Ronald are number one for me and they're going down Daddy Warbucks's staircase. And they're bouncing off each other, so they're going up *and* down, you know what I mean?

**Nay:** *Okay* (laughs)

**Brennan:** Oh my God

**Nay:** (sighs) Amazing

**Michael:** So those count as one because evil only counts once and they're both evil

**Nay:** Okay, Ronald Reagan is also one of mine, so we have crossover

**Michael:** Let me see….

**Nay:** Oh, I can give mine while you think. So, Ronald Reagan, I definitely want to push him down several flights of stairs. I would like the stairs to be *at* his library in Simi Valley. Don't ask me why, but I took my Mom there one time when she was visiting me because she really wanted to go there. And it was *absolutely* horrible. It's the worst place I've ever been in my life, I feel like I was going to burst into flames upon entry. It was disgusting

**Brennan:** Eee-ugh

**Nay:** And I don't actually remember any staircase in particular, but that library, it was such a disgusting display, and lots of lies as well, basically, 'cause they're not gonna be like, (faux chipper) "This section of the library is dedicated to when he dumped a bunch of crack into the hood." (normal voice) No, that's not there. But yeah, staircase there would be great. Second person, obviously Donald Trump. I'm not gonna *not* push Donald Trump down a flight of stairs. And I would like it specifically to be the Air Force One steps

**Brennan:** Oooh!

**Nay:** I think that would just be excellent. Third person, not a real person but someone we had discussed. Judy in *Sleepaway Camp*.

**Michael:** Oh, good one!

**Nay:** Like definitely, *definitely* want to push that bitch down some stairs. And I want them to be like a wiry spiral staircase kind of stairs

**Michael:** She would be fun to whip around by that pony

**Nay:** By that fucking ponytail, okay?

**Michael:** And then chuck her ass down the stairs, you know what I mean?

**Nay:** Yeah, absolutely

**Brennan:** Conveniently located on the side of her head

**Nay:** Right?

**Michael:** Right?

**Nay:** And be like, "That's for Angela, bitch." And throw her down the stairs. Yeah

**Michael:** Those are good

**Nay:** Thank you

**Michael:** I think my second would be another couple. I'm cheating with couples, but Ivanka (Trump) and Jared (Kushner).

**Brennan:** Ahhh!

**Michael:** Just because like, they used to be Democrats first of all, they weren't always crazy. I mean they probably were racist and homophobic--

**Nay:** Of course

**Michael:** But they, I dunno, whatever. They suck. (laughs) I think they're both the worst. I think they're the worst. I hate nothing more than somebody who's arrogant and also stupid. I can handle arrogant, I can handle stupid. But when you put them together, it's just something like, I can't handle because it's like the worst combination of people, because they're too stupid to know how arrogant they are and they're too arrogant to know how stupid they are.

**Nay:** Yeah

**Michael:** Jared Kushner couldn't fucking find his way out of a wet paper bag, that's how fucking horrible he is. So I'd like to push them down a really long escalator, but a broken one (laughs)

**Brennan:** Oh my God

**Michael:** Because it's really thin, you know what I mean? And they would be like a fucking bowling alley with the bumpers up (laughs) And then my last is a group of people

**Nay:** Okay

**Brennan:** 'kay

**Michael:** 'Cause I can't pick just one. But I would love to throw down grifting liberals, like neolibs, like centrists? I can't stand centrists more than anything

**Nay:** Mmm-hmm

**Michael:** Like if you're not a far-left socialist at this point I'm just kind of done with you. And I can't handle like the Chelsea Handlers and the Alyssa Milanos and the Defiant Dad, Brooklyn Defiant Dad on Twitter and those fucking people that reply to every fucking thing that happens in America thinking they're great because they did a clap back to Kellyanne Conway. First of all, Kellyanne Conway doesn't give a shit. Second of all, she doesn't give a shit how history is gonna look at her. That's the other thing I can't handle is people going, "History's gonna look bad on you!" They don't give a shit what you think *now*. You think they're gonna care what a textbook says in like, fifty years? So neolibs, I wanna push them all down a flight of stairs because I think they are all just so lame. Like Chelsea Handler tweeted during the show, let me read it. "I've become attracted to Liz Cheney. Girls are sexy."

**Nay:** Mm-mmm

**Michael:** First of all, not voting to throw away an entire election isn't morality, it's literally common fuckin' sense, first of all. It's *her job*. Second of all, the bitch is against marriage equality. So, good to know where your head's at, Chelsea Handler

**Nay:** Yeah

**Michael:** That kind of shit. All those people down a flight of stairs. And, I don't know why I think this would be fun, but like, a ladder.

**Brennan:** (laughs) *Wow*

**Michael:** Like a slanted ladder? You know what I mean?

**Nay:** Yeah (laughs)

**Brennan:** It's evocative

**Michael:** Anyway, what about you, Brennan? (laughs)

**Brennan:** Well, I mean, you took the good ones, basically

**Michael:** You can cross over

**Brennan:** Obviously the really obvious ones like your Reagans, your Trumps, your Pences, all the shitbirds that are, you know, just doing their thing. A historical figure? My least-liked historical figure in *all* of history-- I mean, it's a personal thing obviously, you know, Hitler was worse, there are worse people literally, but my personal when I learned about this person in history it really made my gut clench is Phyllis Schfafly. There was recently an FX series about her, which boiled my blood that it was ever conceived and exists, but she's the woman who brought down the Equal Rights Amendment, which just *really grinds my gears*. But, there's someone, there is another person on my list who I *really* don't wanna say on the air, but I'm gonna text both of you right now

**Nay:** Okay

**Michael:** (laughs) Yes!

**Brennan:** It's like, if you wanna know what I said, maybe we'll create a Patreon at some point and you can pay for the privilege

**Nay:** (laughs) Oh, I love this text!

**Michael:** (laughs) Oh, that's a good one

**Brennan:** Thank you

**Michael:** Yeah. You don't wanna say that on the air

**Brennan:** Yeah, probably not

**Michael:** Nah

**Brennan:** It probably is, there's some legal hot water there probably--

**Michael:** Yeah. I'm with you

**Brennan:** Of talking about hurting people that aren't politicians

**Michael:** Yeah

**Brennan:** But. Okay--

**Michael:** Where did Nay go?

**Brennan:** I think she was checking her texts

**Nay:** I had to check my text messages--

**Michael:** Oh, that's right

**Nay:** And then I got distracted and forgot that we were recording. *Hello*.

(Everyone laughs)

**Brennan:** About *My Bloody Valentine*, I think it is a little bit of a gross thing to apply any sort of a queer lens to Axel and TJ because they're both pretty horrible human beings. But, you know, gay white men can be pretty horrible too, so maybe it is fair. I don't get super gay vibes from them in this movie, except for the harmonica solo of homoerotic triangulation where they're both fighting over Sara by playing harmonica super-hard at each other, which is, *that* feels like a prelude to fucking. But *nothing else* in the movie read as queer to me in any way

**Michael:** The only thing that reads as queer to me, outside of that, is actually Sara and her friend, like I kind of mentioned earlier. Like there's that whole chase, that sequence where the two of them are running in the mine, trying to find their way out and get away from the killer and they're hiding and stuff. And there's something queer to me about the idea of Sara is the Final Girl for lack of a better term, but also enigmatic in that scene is kind of what the Eighties would do with the boyfriend character in the sense that she was like running her by the hand and almost treating the other girl like she was the damsel in distress that you usually see in these movies, but her partner in crime in those moments was another woman. And to me that just reads queer because it was, I remember it being a pretty early example of the main character being strong throughout the film instead of just like, the last three minutes, you know? Which just reads as queer to me when those kinds of decisions are made in these films because to me it's like, I mean, we *know* it was 1980 so it was a straight white guy that really wrote this movie

**Brennan:** Oh yeah

**Michael:** But it had a bit of a different lens to it than most of the movies of its time. So I'm gonna give that a queer read just because… I dunno, it just read a little queer to me and this is such a different moment. And that's what a queer writer or a female writer would do.

**Nay:** What about when, is it the sheriff in the beginning, he's like, (as the sheriff) "I'm gonna turn you two boys upside-down!"

**Michael:** Oh yeah. That's gay

**Nay:** What does *that* mean?

**Michael:** Yeah

**Nay:** *Gay*

**Michael:** That's gay. Well it seems like there's a lot of the senior characters, like the sheriff, the mayor, Miss Mabel, like they're all confirmed single people, right?

**Nay:** Mabel for sure

**Michael:** (snickers) Are all the town elders homosexuals?

**Nay:** Right. Madam Mabel and her laundromat for sure

**Michael:** Just imagine her all leather get-up under--

**Brennan:** That *My Beautiful Launderette*

**Michael:** Just, she's wearing leather gear under that smock

**Brennan:** Oh my God

**Nay:** She's got a dungeon under the laundromat

**Brennan:** Oooh

**Michael:** But they're all single, aren't they?

**Nay:** I think one of 'em's single, because doesn't he say something like, "Yeah, I'm gonna eat this box of chocolate because the missus has me on a diet," or something. I dunno

**Michael:** (disappointed) Oh, right

**Nay:** I don't really know

**Brennan:** His Missus who lives in Canada? I mean literally?

**Nay:** Right

**Michael:** She lives in the U.S. (giggles)

**Brennan:** Yeah!

**Brennan:** I have a question: Have either of you seen the extended *gore* footage from this movie?

**Michael:** No

**Nay:** No. I have not

**Brennan:** Oooh. You're missing out. Okay, so this is available on this--

**Michael:** I just bought the 40th anniversary Blu-ray. I wonder if it's on there?

**Brennan:** *I don't know*. But it's available on the, it's literally called the "Special Edition." There's a DVD and a Blu-ray of it

**Michael:** Okay

**Brennan:** And it is, there's also an extended clip package on YouTube if you just look up that

**Michael:** Oh, okay

**Brennan:** But look. I like *My Bloody Valentine* like I like my dates: uncut, Canadian

**Nay:** *Oh. My GOD!* (laughs)

**Michael:** Go B!

**Brennan:** You know, it was perfect for a joke. I'm open to everyone, you know

**Michael:** Okay, I get you

**Brennan:** I *do* think that extended gore footage improves the movie by at least half a star for me. It's really really gross. It's really good--

**Nay:** *Nice*

**Brennan:** It's very visceral and intense

**Nay:** Oh, I love that. Okay

**Brennan:** So the kind of Crazy Ralph character, the bartender who tells the Harry Warden story, when he dies--

**Nay:** Yes

**Michael:** I love those kinds of scenes in these movies

**Brennan:** Oh yeah, the harbingers

**Michael:** Just give us the down-low in like two minutes (chuckles)

**Nay:** *Yes*

**Brennan:** Yeah. When he dies, you see his eyeball *on the end* of the pickaxe as it's sticking out of his face

**Michael:** Oh awesome

**Brennan:** It's great shit. You need to see the extended footage

**Nay:** Okay, I want that

**Michael:** So I am looking at the Blu-ray specs because it is a brand-new release. Is it Shout Factory? The cover is--

**Brennan:** I think they did it

**Michael:** What a beautiful cover. Look at how beautiful that cover is.

**Nay:** *Wow*

**Michael:** It's backwards, but this comes out Tuesday, the same day *Freaky* is available on Blu-ray. (chuckles) And it has a section called "Holes in the Heart: A look at the differences between the theatrical version and the uncut version", so I think I'm gonna get a little doc

**Brennan:** Okay, cool

**Michael:** A little documentary to view it

**Nay:** How cute

**Michael:** And Nay, you have a Blu-ray player. You can borrow it!

**Nay:** (laughs) Yes, I will do

**Michael:** Nay finally has a Blu-ray player and was showing me the stack of Blu-rays that she hasn't been able to watch

**Brennan:** Awwww

**Michael:** I'm so excited for you!

**Nay:** Yes. I'm excited too

**Michael:** I think Scooby's slept next to me this whole time

**Nay:** This was fun! My airpods are hurting my ears, though. They've been in too long

**Brennan:** Oh yeah, we can wrap up

**Brennan:** Thanks again to all the listeners for holding out. And again, we're not *coming back weekly*. But we're gonna try to do one when we can, when it feels right

**Nay:** *Yeah*

**Michael:** Yeah.

**Brennan:** Hope you're all doing well out there

**Michael:** Maybe we'll just do holiday themes

**Nay:** (laughs) Great

**Michael:** Makes it easy to pick a movie

**Nay:** Right

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