"Health Care Is a Civil Right" with Anita Cameron and Vann Newkirk (With Friends Like These episode)

***“Health Care Is a Civil Right” with Anita Cameron and Vann Newkirk*** is the twenty third episode of With Friends Like These, hosted by Ana Marie Cox.

## Description

We talk to ADAPT activist Anita Cameron (@adaptanita) [2:53] about the history of the disability rights movement and its recent success raising awareness about what TrumpCare would do to Medicaid. (She also has a few pointers for reporters covering the protests on how to not infantilize the activists.) Vann Newark (@fivefifths) [23:40] joins to talk about the intersection of health policy and civil rights, both philosophically and historically. Easter egg [46:15]: A mini-op-ed on how to correctly insult Donald Trump, Jr.

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(**2:53 - 22:27**)
**3:06** Is 131 still the correct number [of times Anita Cameron has been arrested with ADAPT]?
**4:28** ADAPT’s summer of resistance
**4:51** ADAPTs approach towards defeating BCRA is to create the greatest amount of civil disobedience everywhere
**6:14** Her organization is messaging that the BCRA is better thought of as a Medicaid decimation than an ACA repeal
**7:34** The Denver Post article on ADAPT’s activism from “The Shot Heard Around the World” to present
**8:05** What should be more visible about ADAPT?
**10:15** While you want the attention to be on the issue, does she agree that it is eye-catching that these activists are being thrown out of their chair?
**11:15** Ana’s interview with Alice Wong
**12:51** People think Medicaid and Medicaid is about “taking care” of disabled people, when it is actually about letting disabled people take care of themselves
**14:05** When people think of Medicaid, they think of people as either able-bodied or not able-bodied, when really that’s not how it works
**16:36** Updated version of Better Care Reconciliation Act
**17:27** The new BCRA will cap Medicaid and force states to make cuts to stay beneath the cap
**19:21** People on the right support pro-life movement but write off babies born with disabilities immediately under the law to allow a tax break for rich people
**21:18** There are many parallels in the language and tactics ADAPT is using to the racial Civil Rights movement
**21:53** If people want to know more about ADAPT and the summer of resistance, what else can they do?

Interview with Vann Newkirk
(**23:40 - end**)
**24:11** Anita says that ADAPT took their tactics from the Civil Rights movement. There is a bigger connection than that, isn’t there?
**25:13** Voting is not much of a right if you’re not able to get to the polls
**25:39** Mississippi Freedom Summer
**26:52** You cannot create a universal health care system if you don’t think a large portion of the population is lesser
**27:46** Some politicians discuss people with disabilities in language that suggests they are a burden on society
**31:33** What’s been the through line of how the black influence on public health has continued to persist?
**32:40** Does he think there is a different understanding in black communities about public health?
**34:07** Does he think black communities have a different understanding of disability?
**38:27** In black communities, the physical fragility of the body ties into black lives matter and are more at risk in their person than white people
**40:36** Does he have any idea what’s going to happen next with the new Senate healthcare bill
**41:30** Fact sheet of the economic cost of opioid epidemic in 2015
**46:15** The correct way to insult Donald Trump Jr. is not to compare him to someone with a brain injury

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