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## ENDGAME: Potions of Oblivion, Chaos Rings and Unused Skill Points

So, champion, you have reached the endgame. Thousands of monsters have fallen to your might, songs are sung of your exploits. Your 4 stats (strength, agility, intelligence and endurance) are all over 30, your skills are all completely maxed, your fortress is very advanced. You carry multiple crosses of life to protect your expensive high quality gear, and have found the “battle beetle” pet of the prison. Your hero has incredible power, but you want more….so very much more…you want to go hundreds or even thousands of floors deep, and slay armies of monsters with your terrible might…!!! (And, first of all: if this IS NOT you and you aren’t actually at the endgame, FINISH BUILDING YOUR HERO, AND COME BACK HERE LATER - this is an endgame-only tool and will NOT work properly otherwise. In fact, trying to use chaos too early will severely HAMPER your hero’s ultimate progress - if you have skill points free you should invest them - so don’t do this until very late game…)

Rings of chaos can boost your attack damage into the TENS of THOUSANDS with enough unused skill points (typically over 6000).  Unfortunately, every skill point costs more experience to accrue than the last. It is also getting hard to increase your stats beyond the low 30s, and pets are even tougher to progress. So…how to keep progressing?

The answer lies in a technique where you max everything possible, then use oblivion potions and serums to “harvest” skill points.  Essentially you use your unused skills and pets as skill point storage banks - circumventing the problem of skill points costing more and more experience to gain.

First, you need to max EVERYTHING out - all stats, all skills, all pets (each pet in only a SINGLE stat - not spread out!!). To do that, you will repeatedly level all 9 skills to 25, and use oblivion potions to move those skill points into stats (strength, agility, intelligence and endurance); and a single stat of all 4 pets.

Note that with thousands of unused skill points, some of the mechanics may change: for example that unused skill points count towards hero level calculations - so a level 273 (maxed) hero with 500 unused skill points will count as a level 773 hero for calculations. With the mind control skill of the wizard for instance, this makes 100% control rate of even very high level (common) monsters in the **endgame** to be workable - this will not work against empowered (green) and elite (gold) monsters however - and extreme high level monsters may be able to kill a hero with a single hit - making magic shield also popular. Unfortunately this “level buffing” works against you when using enchants like “giant slayer”, making it non-workable in the endgame, because it won’t trigger (since you are considered to be level 6000 plus…), and will make the gate minibosses extremely strong to account for your level, making them particularly lethal on low floors where your chaos won’t work very well…!!!!

Video of an endgame wizard, fighting deep in the crypt. Note that "giant slayer" is not working.

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Strategies:

Method a)

This first method involves in total purchasing 8 oblivion potions/serums, and is best used if you have invested very little to none in pets to this point.

First, farm experience and max all 9 skills to 25, and raise all 4 stats (strength, agility, intelligence and endurance) to 33 each - such that it requires 34 points each to progress to next level if at the fortress/camp), if you aren’t there already. The shorthand version of how to quickly gain experience is to play in the obsidian tower with several modifiers, on as high a floor level as you can safely handle - you will probably be fine with using borderlands floor 50, with ~95% experience buff from modifiers, fighting a boss each floor… since you have maxed equipment and a maxed fortress, this should be easy-breezy for you. You will probably level your skills fastest by racing through the tower levels with an old map until you find one with a camp - then bounce back and forth in level, gaining experience and going into the camp to level your skill (MUCH cheaper that way, once a skill gets around level 15 or thereabouts, with a maxed fortress). A very reasonable alternative, on the other hand, is to simply Equipment Farm with your chosen method (or mix of methods, to keep things fresh), and let the experience points come a bit slower while you get the very best rings and other gear humanly possible…

Now, you are about to be transferring the points currently in your maxed skills, over into Pets and stats to max THEM too, and max everything in preparation for your “oblivion harvest”….

--> drink your first oblivion skill potion, which will reset all 9 skills (currently maxed at 25) back to 1, and give you 3000+ unused skill points. Immediately use those 3000+ unused skill points to max out all 4 hero stats (strength, agility, intelligence and endurance) to 50 each - intelligence, endurance, strength and agility will all be maxed at 50 from your first potion and skill reset.

—-> gain experience and max all 9 skills to 25 again. It will be much easier than the first time you did it, you are a fully maxed hero now, and will wreck everything less than 100 levels deep in the tower!

—> Now, make sure all Pets are either level 1 with no skill point investments, OR have ALL THEIR SKILL POINTS IN A SINGLE STAT - usually damage although it doesn’t really matter. This is needed to maximize the size of your “storage bank” and get the maximum number of skill points back, at the conclusion of this process. If you have unfortunately spread your pet skill points out across the 3 stats, instead of investing all in one, you will need to drink a serum of oblivion for each pet to rectify this problem, and invest everything into a single stat. Now you see why this was recommended early in the new player guide - this could mean thousands of crystals!!!

--> drink another oblivion potion, lowering your skills to 1 again. This time, use those 3000 plus unused skill points on your 4 Pets (including battle beetle), ALL IN A SINGLE STAT ONLY (probably damage). Pets are extremely slow to level because you have to do it in the fortress or camp (see method C if you don’t mind a bit of pet leveling, to save a potion)

--> gain experience and max all 9 skills to 25 yet again. Drink yet another oblivion skill potion - you will now have enough to max all 4 pets to 50 IN A SINGLE STAT (and the 4th pet = battle beetle). All 4 hero stats should now be maxed at 50, and all 3 pets at 50 in a single stat.

--> gain experience and max all 9 skills to 25, one last time. Now everything is maxed!!! Feel free to delay the next and final step a bit and gain some unused skill points “naturally” and get used to using chaos ring - maybe 200-400. You don’t have to do this, but feel free if you like - this is the last time you will have all 9 skills maxed and level 50 pets, so you want to be sure about your final 3 skill selection, and that they are the ones you want to use with chaos….and make sure you have enough crystals for 4 more potions, accounting for the fact that they get 100 crystals more expensive each time, up to a maximum of 1800 for the skill potion and 1750 for the pet serum.

--> Drink one final oblivion skill position, and one serum of oblivion for each of your 4 Pets (including battle beetle) - totaling 4 more potions (and 7 in all - 10 if you had to reset each of your pets before doing this….). All skills have been returned to level 1.

—> use your unused skill points to re-level to level 25 ONLY THE TWO OR THREE SKILLS YOU WANT TO USE - the unused skills will be kept only at level 1 (or 0, if they aren’t one of the starting skills you won’t even re-buy them), and leave ALL 4 PETS AT LEVEL 1 forevermore. Use your level 1 dog - you will find him extremely useful as a stunned meat shield, particularly when fighting level 1000+ merchants, and clogging hallways so you can attack from behind his stunned body - and he will un-stun very fast at level 1! You have ~6000+ unused skill points, and are ready to destroy the world with your chaos rings.

Other possible methods:

b) 7 potion method: max all skills&stats --> oblivion skill pot spend on pets --> max skills --> oblivion skill pot max pets --> max skills --> 4 oblivion pet pot

c) 7 pots: max all skills + stats to 33 (requiring 34 points to upgrade at fortress/camp)--> oblivion skill pot to max stats --> max skills --> get all pets to 24 --> oblivion skill pot to max pets --> max skills --> 4 oblivion pet pot

d) 6 pots: max all skills + stats --> get all pets to 24 --> oblivion skill pot to max pets --> max skills --> 4 oblivion pet pot

The oblivion price increase has a cap. The serum (pet reset) stops at 1750 and the skill reset potion at 1800.

Consider trying strategy A if you find leveling pets painful; and strategy C if you don’t mind grinding up your pets naturally to 24 in a single stat (perhaps by farming the grim paladin…) - again, all pets leveled in a single stat..

Why does it have to be all in a single pet stat, you ask….unfortunately you can only have a level 50 pet, no higher. That could be a pet with 17 levels put into health, 17 into attack, and 16 defense; or it could be a pet with all 50 put into one stat. Difference of ~1250 points you get back, vs only ~430 or so.

After the oblivion harvest, you will really only go much further in power by converting gold into crystals and then buying skill points, because it will take millions of experience to gain a single level - although the altars of experience (the ones to at look like books) scale with floor level so those will still advance you occasionally. It is PRICEY to buy skill points - it costs 80,000 crystals for every 1000 additional skill points…you may wish to delay using the oblivion potions and serums to earn a few hundred skill points “naturally” before the final harvest - this will also give you practice with chaos and testing your maxed skills, to see which 3 skills you want to use forevermore.  You may want to even play WITHOUT chaos for a few hundred floors to get the feel of battling high level monsters. You will not want to get to the point where you are dying and using those expensive crosses to save you - if that starts to happen, do the harvest, crosses of life are expensive - you will progress 10 times faster and rapidly accumulate gold/crystals/gear…

Credit to @Himynameissomeone for this innovative strategy. Good luck and see you on the crypt leaderboard! ~sb413197