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Remember you can already get an EV that goes 0-60 in 4 seconds and goes over 250 miles on a charge for the price of a fully loaded Model 3

For all of you waiting for that highest spec d Model 3 that can go really far and really fast Tesla has quite a few P85 s over on ev-cpo.com 0-60 in 4 seconds 250+ miles of range Full Tesla warranty 60-70k nicely optioned in addition to above

2016-04-01 18:55:31

Those CPOs have been on the market for multiple months. They haven t sold at those prices for good reason.

2016-04-01 19:04:06

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Permit in place for San Antonio Supercharger after Elon s Ok response

A few days ago there was a post on here about a Twitter user begging for Supercharging in San Antonio... link below https: i.redd.it laj89vczmjk21.jpg As of Thursday according to Supercharge.info there has been a permit pulled for this! :) https: supercharge.info changes This makes me happy. Hopefully these rollouts will continue acceleration the Supercharging network is Tesla s special sauce in the EV world.

2019-03-08 18:58:23

The skeptic in me says this was already in the works and imminent. The optimist in me says this is awesome.

2019-03-08 19:00:52

Tesla Supercharger Road Trips

&lt =HW2.5 and Voice Commands

2018 Model 3 LR AWD FSD I m noticing the if I am at home on wifi the voice commands seem to work pretty well. However when I m out and about and on the Tesla network connection it s pretty hit or miss or none at all on the voice commands. Has anyone postulated voice commands and level of response could also be hardware related and not just all network related? Reason I bring it up is dictation and respond to text message does not work at all even when I m on WiFi. The text will come in if I press the scroll it reads it fine but if I press the scroll wheel nothing holding it for extended period of time or just press and release has absolutely no response from the system. The Microphone screen does not come at all. It s like the scroll wheel is dead even though when pressed it played the incoming message. So could it be a combination of Network and hardware? By now everyone has pretty much hammered the voice commands across the fleet and I d suspect similarities should be occurring. So I put to the esteemed community if it could also be hardware related on the full functionality of the voice commands. If so that would cut down on the Voice command postings seeing the community believes its hardware and software….

2019-12-29 12:48:09

3 out of 4 times I use voice command it simply ignores me. But when it hears me it works.

2019-12-29 12:53:28

Spotify Integration Analysis

Summon backed into a wall

Pretty much self explanatory. I ve been using it every day for months. It usually stops a few inches from the wall. Today it didn t. I don t see any damage to the car. Wall is kinda bent though. I called tesla and they said they would pull some logs.

2017-06-22 20:35:10

Ah that sucks dude. Though this is probably exactly why Summon moves at a creeping pace. Saves damage to the car. Let us know if Tesla gives you an update as to what caused the malfunction

2017-06-22 20:57:43

Issues with Smart Summon

Weekly Experience Thread

This will post every Saturday (EST) at 6AM. Use this thread to comment your own experiences during the week if they match below. This thread is specifically intended for **photos** of: * Order Confirmations * Delivery Day Photos * Vanity Plates * Video Blogs + Racing Videos * Delivery Transport Trucks * Vehicle Spotting (case-by-case) * Toy items you purchased * Baked Goods If you think a post violates this verify with our updated **Rule 4** in the sidebar and report it.

2017-11-04 11:12:01

Last night I had a dream that I saw my first Model 3 in person. Maybe it s because I m swinging by Tesla store today to look into solar.

2017-11-04 13:40:33

Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors

Part 1 of my Cross country trip on my week old LR AWD

My a post about my Trip on Sunday [Here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments byo4jh lr_awd_is_only_a_week_old_and_we_take_our_first ?utm_medium=android_app&amp utm_source=share) Starting a job assignment and decided to take Vesper with me. Its been a fantastic experience so far and road trips are never going to be the same again. Here are my stops along with a brief description of what is at each stop 1.[Birmingham AL](http: imgur.com gallery lRcsHPR) 2. [Jackson TN](http: imgur.com gallery Eoie6p7) 3. [Miner MO](http: imgur.com gallery 6Ytqeya) 4.[Mehlville MO](http: imgur.com gallery UzmhWzr) 5.[Columbia MO](http: imgur.com gallery 1Wffwtv) 6. [Independence MO](http: imgur.com gallery 1aaE2S9) 7. [Salina KS](http: imgur.com gallery Ya1f3no) 8. [Hays KS](http: imgur.com gallery EkilIvp) 9.[Goodland KS](http: imgur.com gallery aC7ONTI) 10. [Limon CO](http: imgur.com gallery KtAqinV) 11. [Denver CO](http: imgur.com gallery hDrvu0n)

2019-06-12 05:17:22

3%? That s really pushing it. I would have stopped sooner.

2019-06-12 05:26:02

Tesla Supercharger Road Trips

Model 3 and Car Seats

Hey everyone My wife and I are getting ready to buy a car but we have questions and we wanted to know how people feel about the model 3 with car seats and strollers. We are expecting our first child so we were not sure if the model 3 would work for us. Do any of you have any issues with strollers or car seats at all that we should know about?

2020-06-27 19:38:40

I have two kids (6) and (3) so one car seat and one booster seat. While they don t have a stroller anymore there is plenty of room

2020-06-27 19:43:17

Model 3 Seat Impressions

Reply from Transport Canada regarding the use of Summon

Keep in mind I sent the inquiry before Tesla announced they would release Summon in Canada for the Model 3. Its interesting that they say there is no regulations preventing summon. Where is this info coming from that Canada requires a fob etc for Summon. Also why doesn t summon behave the same way as in the US? &amp #x200B &gt Thank you for your email of October 31 2018 regarding the Tesla “summon” feature. &gt &gt Under the *Motor Vehicle Safety Act* Transport Canada is mandated to regulate the manufacture and importation of motor vehicles and motor vehicle equipment to reduce the risk of death injury and damage to property.  The Act authorizes the establishment of the Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (CMVSSs) and regulates prescribed classes of vehicles.  Under the Act safety standards can be introduced to govern the design construction and functioning of vehicles or equipment.  Vehicle and equipment manufacturers and importers must certify that all new products offered for sale in Canada comply with the applicable safety standards in effect on the date of manufacture. &gt &gt Please note that there are no Transport Canada regulations preventing the “summon” feature from being included in Canadian vehicles.  In fact the Tesla Model S and Model X are currently equipped with the “summon” feature in Canada.  The implementation timeline of this feature for the Model 3 as with other convenience features is at the full discretion of the manufacturer. &gt &gt I trust that the foregoing has helped to address your concerns.  Thank you again for writing. &amp #x200B

2018-12-05 17:50:51

What s different about Canada summon? I thought now it was available for the model 3 and that does not require a keyfob for summon.

2018-12-05 18:00:05

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Elon: Tesla batteries are currently live &amp delivering power at 662 locations in Puerto Rico. Team is working 24 7 to activate several hundred more.

https: twitter.com elonmusk status 986746909153869824?s=20 Check out @Tesla s Tweet: https: twitter.com Tesla status 986760828882792448?s=09

2018-04-18 23:23:50

The year is 2305 and Muskism is now the only practiced religion

2018-04-19 00:25:33

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Tesla has removed the $1500 cancellation fee for the Solar Rental

Just spoke with my energy advisor Elon met with the team this morning and notified them. The website is updated and they are in the process of updating the contract. Proof: https: www.tesla.com energy design If you want your system removed to restore your roof to its previous condition Tesla will remove the system at no cost to you Edit: It appears this is for September only: https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1170429838550650881

2019-09-06 23:50:51

so are you going to put your order back in? :D

2019-09-06 23:56:03

Issues with Tesla Energy Installation

Do the test drive! Don t let online article deter you. I enjoyed the Model Y.

So for anyone being influenced by some of the bad articles on quality go test drive it yourself and make your decision. You might walk away with a different impression. I currently have a PHEV BMW 330e and looking to upgrade to a larger SUV like vehicle that s fully electric. I ve been shopping around but was on the fence with the Model Y. The BMW was my first taste of electric but I wanted more on this next upgrade. As a BMW fan I was really hesitant to go Tesla from some of the negative quality reviews I read online. The friendly salesman at the service center let me inspect a test Model Y and drive for a total of almost an hour. I drove it with the radio off and on side streets freeway and bad roads -- and the overall interior and driving quality was satisfactory enough for me to leave BMW.

2022-03-09 03:33:04

Agree wholeheartedly with this. A lot of ppl on here are deciding between and long range and performance. I say test drove both and see what you think. You can read all you want but you really need to drive the car to see how it feels.

2022-03-09 03:52:31

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

How much has Smart Summon improved since it came out?

I ve seen a few videos of when it first came out and it had some issues. I was wondering how much it s improved in the three months since it was introduced. People who have Teslas with Full Autopilot how have your experiences been with Smart Summon recently? Have you noticed an improvement since Smart Summon was added?

2020-01-10 21:27:07

Tried it the other night at Walmart. It slowly got to the road in front of the store and freaked out crossing to meet me and stopped perpendicular in the road. Still only a party trick and not that useful.

2020-01-10 21:36:46

Issues with Smart Summon

Question about auto dimming mirrors

I couldn t find using a search...2021 m3 I have dark tint and the auto dimming mirrors make it impossible to see at night. I unplugged the rearview mirror cable and was able to disable that mirror only. It didn t affect the side mirrors. My question is this: will removing the cable on the side mirrors disable the power mirror functionality? Are there 2 separate plugs for power and autodimming?

2021-01-29 18:11:48

I don t have a tint and I can t see at all to back up at night without using the camera. It makes backing into my tight garage door impossible. Tesla really needs to disable the auto diming when you put the car in reverse.

2021-01-29 22:40:14

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

With the pending increase to 75kWh from 70 it sounds like Tesla is done with its remaining inventory of the original full carbon batteries. The partial silicon chemistry is the new standard.

Per Elon and JB Straubel the new chemistry uses partial silicon in the anode gaining a total of 6% extra capacity for the same number of cells in the pack.

2016-05-04 14:54:15

Wow this is interesting. Using silicon should theoretically allow for 40-60% higher capacities so this is just the first round of such batteries.

2016-05-04 15:43:37

Tesla Battery Production Optimization

PSA: Check your lug nut torque on new cars especially before taking to track

Took my 300 mile P3D to a mixed AutoX road course this weekend. Had a bunch of fun until about 15 miles in I started getting a strong vibration when turning left and my brakes went all the way to the floor. After a lot of worry I found all 5 lug nuts on the right front tire were loose. The soft brakes were from the brake rotor tilting and spreading the pads apart when cornering. Checked the rest of the wheels and at least one lug on every one was only finger tight with the other front having 3 loose. Seems like either Tesla has a process defect when torquing these or the heat cycles loosen them up. This is an early November build car.

2018-12-17 21:12:16

It is a pretty standard shop policy to tell customers to come in to have wheels retorqued again (or check them yourself) after 100km if the wheels were removed. It takes so little movement that a grain of sand getting crushed will drop the torque to half of spec. New cars built in a clean factory should not suffer from this but I would still check them and it is part of a standard PDI (if it is done properly). All this being said I check the torque on any unwired bolts every time I take my track car to the track. Wheel nuts get checked every session. Maybe it s overkill but I can say I have never had an issue.

2018-12-17 23:29:04

Model Y Wheel Options

My conservative speculation on how Tesla might improve Model 3 efficiency to get 215 miles of range with only a 50kWh battery.

**TLDR**: 55kWh battery = 11% efficiency improvement from S60. 50kWh = 19% improvement. Model 3 weight reduction gives 4-6% drag 4-7 battery 2-4 regen 2-3 software 2-6 drivetrain 0-1. Total 13-24% (multiply don t add). As long as the smaller battery can still do 0 to 60 in 5.9 a base 50kWh battery is well within reach. __________________________________________________________________________________________ **Intro**: Some people are skeptical that the 3 could have a battery smaller than 60kWh. Others are predicting as low as a 44kWh battery. To make a comparison my starting point is the S60. It is the most efficient S with an EPA range of 208 miles. 60kWh 208mi = **288 Wh mi**. (*I know there are buffers but for the sake of comparison I m ignoring them one-to-one*). It is also very close to the 3 s stated range and acceleration with a 5.9 sec 0 to 60. Other models are less efficient due to being heavier and or faster. The bigger the model the less efficient. Over time Tesla has improved efficiency on the model S such that the new 75D nearly equals the 60 in Wh mi. However we know the base 3 will not have dual motors so the older 60 makes the best comparison. __________________________________________________________________________________________ **Improvement goals**: * 55kWh 215 = 256Wh mi -&gt 256 288 = *11.3% efficiency improvement* * 50kWh 215 = 233Wh mi -&gt 233 288 = *19.4% efficiency improvement* How will Tesla create these improvements? I can think of 6 areas of focus: **1. Weight**: With a volume 90% of the S (from Motortrend s estimate) and assuming the same density (more steel but lighter battery chemistry) model 3 may get [*4-6% improvement.*](http: www.autoblog.com 2009 10 29 greenlings-how-does-weight-affect-a-vehicles-efficiency ) **2. Drag**: Frontal area is 4% smaller and Cd is aimed to be .21 a 12% improvement. We should minimally expect .23 a 4% improvement. Cd and area together give 8-16%. From [this graph](http: www.solarjourneyusa.com Pictures Whpermilevsspeed.jpg) drag losses at average EPA testing speed of 33mph is roughly one quarter of total losses. So we are at roughly 2-4%. We also know from the model 3 prototypes that Tesla has done a lot of work on wheel drag as well. They previously claimed 3% increased range from the cyclone wheels so we could expect at least 2-3% going to slipstream wheels and then something even better. So that totals *4-7% improvement*. **3. Battery and electrical**: Better chemistry less heat loss. For reference in 2007 they were [ up to 80% or so efficient from battery to wheels](https: www.teslamotors.com blog magic-tesla-roadster-regenerative-braking). Pure speculation on my part I ll say they can capture *2-4% improvement*. **4. Regen efficiency**: Similar to battery because it s the same in reverse just not active all the time. However the relative amount of energy available to capture is larger than in the S because of other reductions in energy loss. I ll say *2-3% improvement*. **5. Software efficiency**: Things like power curves and torque sleep which had about 4% improvement (and is not reflected in the S60 range I believe?). Who knows what other tricks they have up their sleeves. Best conservative guess *2-6% improvement*. **6. Mechanical drivetrain**: Eliminating friction and inertia affects every mile but probably already well optimized. It s also possible that a drivetrain optimized for mass production could be less efficient (cost speed of production etc). *0-1% improvement*. #Totals: 13.3-24.2%. 11% improvement for a 55kWh battery is an easy safe choice. 19% improvement for a 50kWh battery is well within reach and would be an amazing leap in efficiency. __________________________________________________________________________________________ Other notes: -Major caveat is the sub 6-second 0 to 60 time. Is a 50kWh battery big enough to pump out that power? Will newer battery chemistry help? No idea but I m prepared to be amazed. -Tires will play a role but since that is something you ll replace later anyway I didn t want to consider it. -Lower drag reduces the highway premium but has the drawback of reducing the city benefit. You won t be able to go 500 miles on a single charge by driving 24mph. Basically the EPA estimate will be that much closer to real-world driving in all scenarios. Sound familiar? -A smaller battery will hurt more during low efficiency driving like freezing temps and snow. A larger ratio of your power use will be spent heating the cabin. Hopefully there will be countermeasures to this like a high-efficiency heat pump.

2016-05-23 16:09:24

Excellent write-up.

2016-05-23 16:30:45

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

[Discussion] How much would you pay for an OEM power trunk retro fit for the Model 3 from Tesla

I wanted to get a discussion going about how much people would be willing to pay for an OEM power trunk retrofit for the Model 3 if that option ever happens seeing as it is on the new model if. I m hesitant to buy the Hansshow one for ~$700 installed because it s not OEM and I don t want warranty issues. But I m also not sure I would pay more than $700 from Tesla installed. I m Interested to see what this community thinks.

2020-10-16 15:47:26

I d probably go as high as $1k. If it was $500 I d do it in heartbeat.

2020-10-16 15:49:33

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Model 3 Navigation software recommended improvements.

Since I can t seem to push this to Tesla I ll offer my 2 cents worth on how the nav software can be improved (to at least equal my five year old Garmin stand alone GPS): We just finished two back to back 800+ km day trips. The navigation software can be improved with the following: 1. Include the actual exit number as part of the written directions. 2. In unfamiliar high intensity traffic zones (such as my first time ever entering Philadelphia during rush hour) the software should always include the best lane to be in. Not just immediately before the exit but at the start of the leg. We got lost at the south end of the Pennsylvania Toll road (I476 intersects I276) and ended up eastbound on I276 versus our desired and planned westbound on I276 as intended. If (like my old stand alone Garmin GPS unit) the best lane to be in is shown continuously in zones of high traffic with many interchanges in a short distance the results would be much better. Anecdotally other people on the forums have explained the need to also have a stand alone Garmin GPS unit in their Model 3 when traveling into unknown busy areas. Now I know why. 3. I need the option to have a chain of waypoints. 4. I need the ability to ask the Model 3 list the next rest stop on my active route (or list the closest ????? on my active route). We had no idea except for signs on the freeway when the next rest stop (for our picnic lunch) would be. We tried every permutation of nearest rest stop with no luck. 5. I need to be able to see the status of available charger slots if said charger is in my active nav route and I am navigating towards it. Having to add additional steps to pull up available slot status for a charger that I am already committed to going to is plain wrong. Sidebar: Since update 28.3 my TACC is braking unexpectedly going under bridges (on I81 both directions). It upset my wife so much I couldn t drive using my cruise control in my Model 3 for large portions of this trip. It s a known issue Tesla so please fix it.

2018-08-17 00:48:19

Why use Garmin when you can use Waze?

2018-08-17 01:35:06

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

2020.36 Software Update Megathread

**2020.36** has now rolled out to more than 5% of the fleet and working its way out to more vehicles! Learn more about Tesla vehicles updates [here](https: www.tesla.com support software-updates). [**Release Notes Highlights**](https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.36): * Green Traffic Light Chime * Speed Assist Improvements * Cruise Set Speed Improvements * 2020.36.10 - Exit Passing Lane Track your vehicle stats and see past updates: * [Software Updates Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) \- Past Megathreads + other information. * [Teslascope](https: www.teslascope.com) - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. * [TeslaFi](https: www.teslafi.com) - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. Discover anything specific? Such as new Autopilot capabilities changes in the overall UI or known bugs that have been fixed share your findings here! Keep in mind some features may or may not be available based on your Model Model Year MCU Version Autopilot Hardware Version or Geographic Location. Software versions may not be in order and are deployed in batches.

2020-09-01 23:05:04

Can confirm the speed limit sign detection works. Helps me out tremendously on my commute as there was a speed limit error on about 1 2 my commute preventing me from using autopilot effectively.

2020-09-01 23:50:08

Tesla Software Updates Overview

Will the virtual cars stop jittering all over the place with HW3 FSD upgrade?

Just wondering if we ll ever see the cars closer to their true position without jittering all over the place. As already stated no sensor upgrades are necessary so I m hoping this will be addressed when the FSD computer comes. I m also curious why they don t apply translational smoothing to the models especially when you are stopped in traffic to prevent these erratic movements.

2019-04-10 19:22:47

It s much better in firmware 2019.8.5 already. I am sure it will improve over time even on the current hardware.

2019-04-10 19:36:43

Tesla Autopilot Performance

Idea Feedback Megathread - January 16 2019

Share your ideas wishes or feedback and hopefully Tesla will take note as we know they lurk. See past idea feedback threads [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Idea%2FFeedback+Megathread%22&amp restrict_sr=on&amp include_over_18=on&amp sort=new&amp t=all).

2019-01-16 17:25:34

Charging finish time. Everyone in cold weather wants this.

2019-01-16 20:16:59

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Autopark on my Model 3 for parallel parking almost *always* fails and hits a rim with about an 80% fail rate. Am I the only one?

I ve since installed rim pro-tec and have stopped using the feature altogether. Auto park isn t worth it if it s going to screw up my rims multiple times!

2018-07-15 19:58:44

Hmmmm I ve never had a problem with it hitting wheels. Maybe there is a problem with your sensors?

2018-07-15 20:07:00

Issues with Smart Summon

My AP1 becomes temporarily unavailable when I take a particular interchange

On my commute I take a 270-degree interchange onto Hwy 99 N in Seattle. While on the interchange itself my Autosteer and TACC become unavailable. That s not a big problem those systems disable themselves under lots of circumstances especially with AP1. However my problem is that AP (Autosteer + TACC) remains unavailable for *many minutes* afterward. Attempting to use them results in a Reduced front radar visibility error. I ve had a case open with Tesla about this for a long time but it s not making progress. To help explain what I see every day I take this particular interchange I finally made an annotated video at [https: youtu.be aoOr7H6n8nI](https: youtu.be aoOr7H6n8nI). Any ideas what causes this?

2019-04-11 06:28:48

It should come back online once you leave the curve you may need to have your AP camera re-calibrated.

2019-04-11 09:59:14

Tesla Autopilot Performance

Danish model 3 personal finance sheet with calculated prices now finally decent after much rework

*now actually updated as close as I get to DK prices. Some options are converted unevenly and their registration tax model is off somehow* Day one delivery 2019 with AWD+LR+PUP with no paint** Model 3 in Denmark: **454.500 DKK** or about **2450DKK month** ***more*** than a typical spec ed VW UP! *if you drive 100 km a day* Made a danish model 3 personal finance sheet with calculated prices for the car and all the gore and glory including VAT reg tax deductions and step up reg coming years dynamically and then your personal monthly finances easily edited. Laws are now passed by all parties so changed it down accordingly but still some of the calculations if in doubt are made conservative so this is or very near worst case. Example: You should hopefully get cheaper insurance than the default 12k DKK year. Its now finally decently checked and usable after much rework and most importantly based off NOK prices instead of insecure US prices which didn t include euro transport and reassembly etc. [Danmark cost Tesla model 3 public](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1lyuTtGcPHT3kNgCmVsfzgJL3LT-a-VscKXf9cdMtczE edit?usp=sharing) Also made a lot of core descriptors with english translation for ease of use by non-natives. Export for your personal editing and enjoyment: Replace insurance personal finance current car costs other new cars you want to compare to etc. Also just credit me and holla at me if you repost for other cars. &amp #x200B Edit: added instructions Edit 2: And prices changed was announced to be excepted passed by most or all parties in Folketinget while I did this massive rework stuff. Edit3: law passed today 20 12-2018 Edit4: updated with final prices. This is still close estimates due to how Tesla made their pricing and not all versions being announced.

2018-12-07 12:37:06

My wallet is hiding under the table crying.

2018-12-07 15:19:26

Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration

Tesla Leasing for Model 3 &amp Y Available in Canada!

[https: www.iphoneincanada.ca tesla tesla-leasing-model-3-model-y-canada ](https: www.iphoneincanada.ca tesla tesla-leasing-model-3-model-y-canada ) I thought Tesla didn t allow people to buy out the car afterwards.. but on the Tesla lease page it says return or purchase after.

2020-08-07 15:59:05

If they are allowing Model Y buyouts at the end of the lease that is indicating how they think FSD development will be in three years. [https: www.tesla.com support tesla-leasing](https: www.tesla.com support tesla-leasing) Can I purchase my Tesla at the end of my lease? You can purchase your Model S or Model X at the end of the lease for its residual value plus remaining amounts owed under the leases taxes official fees etc. associated with the purchase. Model 3 will not be available for purchase at the end of the lease. Review full terms in your lease agreement.

2020-08-07 16:17:09

Tesla Lease Experience Considerations

Use Cybertruck Air Compressor to Clear Side and Rear Cameras

The Cybertruck may be one of the first vehicles in the United States to dispense with side view mirrors. An earlier post to this group discussed that the proposal is moving out of the regulatory comment period towards a final decision. Using the built-in air compressor to blow moisture off the side and rear cameras with a short directed burst would be an ideal use of this unique standard feature.

2020-04-14 04:17:54

I feel like that won t be as effective as it would need to be. If I go through mud or get sleet on the cameras a burst of air won t help much. I feel like this will add a lot of complexity be prone to failure just be a partial solution. Plus I like Tesla s laser idea: https: www.google.com amp s electrek.co 2019 11 25 tesla-laser-beams-clean-debris-off-cars amp

2020-04-14 08:38:56

Issues with Sentry Mode

$TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - August 18 2018

[We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22&amp restrict_sr=on&amp include_over_18=on&amp sort=new&amp t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. We will try daily for a week long. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ).

2018-08-18 09:11:56

One thing I haven t seen any short consider is that Elon could be prosecuted for the funding secured tweet being a lie but a deal to take Tesla private *still takes place*. They are treating it as a completely binary event. However there are people on both sides of this trade who have such extreme views that no amount of evidence would convince them they are wrong. Tesla is going to $0. There is going to be a short squeeze to $800. Both of those scenarios are extremely unlikely. Shorting Tesla at $370-380 after it was clear funding wasn t exactly secured was a smart move with almost no downside. Going all in with your life savings at $370 was just stupid especially given Elon s recent Twitter outbursts. I expect a bit of a bounce on Monday followed by a gentle downtrend for a while until any sort of material good news comes out. Shorting at this level comes with a fairly hefty tail risk from either a deal materialising a suprise product announcement or just excellent Q3 results. However just like longs pilled in at $370 I expect some shorts will pile in at this level and the market likes to punish so perhaps a suprise bounce at some point to shake them out.

2018-08-18 12:02:29

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Disable Rear Seatbelt Warning for Empty Car seat?

Is there a way to disable this? The car seat is heavy enough to trigger the warning when my kids aren t back there buckled up. The service center recommended leaving the seat belt buckled when the seat is not in use. That s what I ve been doing so far. It seems like this could be a useful feature to have for various scenarios for the back seats.

2020-01-15 15:38:19

When the warning comes up tap the icon and it ll switch it to car-seat mode and it won t alert you.

2020-01-15 15:39:49

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Tesla insurance is incredibly cheap!

When I went to purchase my P3D three months ago I got quotes from several different insurance agencies. USAA wanted $240 a month and Geico was about $200. Since I had nothing to lose I rolled with Tesla s insurance (only available in CA for now...more on that in a second) and got a quote for $113! I have great coverage on my insurance. That is probably the least I ve ever paid for a car and my next most expensive car was half the price of this one. My driving history is pretty clean right now but I ve had several collisions claims over the last 5-6 years and I have gotten pulled over for speeding probably 7-8 times in that span. Just nothing in the last 2 years or so. Here s a picture of my policy coverage: [https: imgur.com a 0TILecy](https: imgur.com a 0TILecy) In terms of other things I learned when speaking to the incredibly friendly policy agent I was just on the phone with: * Changing my collision deductible from $500 to $100 was only $12 more a month. What that basically means is that I have to have a collision in the next 33 months before this ends up being upside down economically. I would also rather pay $12 per month than an extra $400 in bulk. No brainer. Yes it s less likely to be in an accident but the car can t avoid someone that rear ends me. * Tesla insurance will be available outside of California sometime early in 2020. Couldn t tell me where but that s gotta be exciting for you non California owners. * Adding my wife to my insurance would ve been an extra $90 a month so the alternative since she has a car with its own insurance is that as long as she has permission to drive my car she gets limited coverage before her insurance has to kick in. * He is a licensed agent contracted by Tesla but basically this is what he does full time. * Tesla insurance is owned by Tesla but is underwritten by another insurance company. I think he said National but did not take note. * Repairs happen mostly at service centers but can also happen at 3rd party sites. If you get service center treatment odds are you ll get a Model S loaner for the period of repairs. I ve been to the service center in Carlsbad 2 times already and both times it was a great experience and I was in and out in 10 minutes with a Model S 70D both times. The second time they remembered who I was and were super cool and even waived a fee for wheel alignment because I didn t know they were going to charge me. * In case of an accident during RoboTaxi operation he didn t know how it would be addressed but after I hung up I realized I am paying $20 every 6 months for an autonomous vehicle protection package and I didn t have a chance to ask him but found this page which describes it briefly: [https: www.tesla.com support insurance](https: www.tesla.com support insurance) * When I asked why the price was so great he candidly admitted that the whole point of Tesla having insurance is because the alternative is too expensive. Due to their vertical integration the rates can be excellent as they don t have to pay the swindling middleman that s jacking up the repair quote because it s going through insurance. * The agent admitted to going through some growing pains but that they re committed to giving excellent service. If you re in California and don t have Tesla insurance I strongly encourage you to get it! I did it through the website but it was a new order don t know if current owners can do the same. One final word to the wise: Tesla seems to not report to the California DMV that you have insurance so you may get a notice asking for evidence of insurance. In this state evidence of financial responsibility can be provided to the DMV through email.

2019-12-23 00:50:33

This will be interesting to watch play out. Warren Buffet and others have said this is a bad idea for Tesla to get into the insurance business. It seems to make sense at high level for Tesla to give it a try. They are paying themselves to fix their cars since nobody else can. No middleman taking cuts low overhead presumably little to no fraud since Tesla is doing everything. They can access driver history to see if you drive like an asshole or not and adjust rates accordingly. But Warren obviously knows far more about insurance industry than all of us combined.

2019-12-23 01:02:18

Tesla insurance pricing comparison

Redesign for the Model S - what do you think?

I love the shape of the Model S but think the front is a little long so I photoshopped it to make it shorter. I m hoping this will be more like the shape of the upcoming Model E. What do you guys think? http: i.imgur.com H1MdflX.jpg (top = original bottom = my redesign)

2013-09-20 16:42:44

Looks like you would lose a little storage space in the frunk and lose some crumple zone (which means it wouldn t be as safe as the existing shape). That s a really good shop job but I like it the way it is currently. Now the Model E coming up that s gonna be a good looking car and sure to have a shorter front.

2013-09-20 17:55:12

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Stolen Grey Tesla Roadster in the Los Angeles Area

Edit: Not sure how but the person on Next Door said the car was found. Search over! We did it Reddit!

2018-03-20 22:35:33

I had a nightmare last night that my S got stolen and I was watching it drive around on the app til the cops finally caught up to the crook. It was awful. I cannot even imagine having to deal with a stolen car in real life.

2018-03-20 23:50:15

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Tesla Model 3 ​Event ​Megathread​!​

##Welcome to Model 3 s **Part 3** Event Megathread! **Event Start Time: 7pm PT** **Remarks Start Time: 9pm PT​** **Timezones:** 9pm Pacific 12am Eastern 0400 Zulu [Click here to determine your local time](https: www.timeanddate.com worldclock fixedtime.html?msg=Model+3+Reveal&amp iso=20170728T2045&amp p1=822&amp ah=2) ----- * [**Official Live Stream Page**](https: livestream.tesla.com ?redirect=no) - **Submit info to start stream**. Reservation not required. * [Tesla Motors YouTube Channel](https: www.youtube.com user TeslaMotors featured) * [Model 3 Page](https: www.tesla.com model3?redirect=no) * [Model 3 Reservation Page](https: www.tesla.com model3 reserve?redirect=no) * [Album w Updated Pics from the event](http: imgur.com a socyu) ----- ​We have made separate topic-specific megathreads ​for different areas around Model 3. Instead of making a new post please post a comment or link to discuss in one of the following threads. They are sorted by New to follow along with the stream. You can sort by Top as you wish. * [Reddit Stream of this Post](https: www.reddit-stream.com comments 6q8dav ) * [**All Megathreads in New**](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors new ) or [Model 3 Event posts only](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?sort=new&amp restrict_sr=on&amp q=flair%3AModel%2B3%2BEvent) * [Model 3 Questions Megathread](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6q8ctp model_3_questions_megathread ) * [Model 3 Interior Megathread](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6q8cy5 model_3_interior_megathread ) * [Model 3 Exterior Megathread](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6q8d11 model_3_exterior_megathread ) * [Model 3 Specs Pricing and Options Megathread](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6q8d3r model_3_specs_pricing_and_options_megathread ) * [Model 3 Investing Megathread](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6q8d6j model_3_investing_thread ) * [Original Model 3 FAQ Megathread](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6maygo model_3_faq_thread_please_post_all_questions ) ----- **Note:** Posts will be limited on the sub for a 12-24 hour period after the event starts. Comments (and links in comments are free game). Message the Mods if there is a particularly good article or link and we will review it on case-by-case basis. We went this route because we took feedback from the community from when a past user created many posts to discuss the Model 3 components and we didn t handle it as the community wanted. We understand some folks won t be happy but we are short on coverage but we also will be reviewing and approving some posts so we appreciate your understanding. It s going to be a crazy night! :) ----- **Discord Chat** Check out our Discord Chat channels. The Discord has its own set of rules so please be considerate of those. Familiarize yourself and join in! * [Rules and Tips Channel](https: discord.gg 7WuEqAW) - These differ from r TeslaMotors Rules. * [**Model 3 Megathread Channel**](https: discord.gg kPUQAFA) * [Model 3 Bingo Card made by Discord users](http: mfbc.us m wfp5zy) ----- Last but not least please **Report** if someone is breaking a rule. We will have a zero tolerance policy on trolling during the event. **Other than that HAVE FUN!** **P.S.** - At 9pm Pacific Time we will have special guest posting photos videos to r TeslaMotors from behind-the-scenes at the event. So keep an eye out for those ) ##**[Model 3 Press Kit](https: www.tesla.com presskit#model3)**

2017-07-29 02:03:13

That s it? :-( Wanted more details

2017-07-29 04:20:56

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Has anyone gone through the process of transferring their Tesla lease?

Trying to upgrade but they are seriously low balling so I m thinking about just finding someone to take over the lease. Anyone done this how was Tesla for this process?

2017-01-30 21:25:55

A lease transfer usually requires some paperwork from the dealer financier and a transfer of liability from the DMV. Tesla low balled me on a buyback offer when I wanted to upgrade too. Offered me less than I owed on mine so I told them where to shove it.

2017-01-30 21:55:54

Tesla Lease Experience Considerations

Just had my first test drive (no age limit?)

Drove a performance Model 3 today. I m in college right now so not looking to buy anytime soon but I m a colossal fan. Wow. Just wow. These guys thought of everything. Absolutely phenomenal driving experience acceleration and Autopilot was a blast. It s also got a surprisingly good sound system. The regenerative braking took a second to get used to but it feels really good along with the automatic vehicle hold at stops. Overall far superior to my 2001 Camry (so if any of these features are already on newer cars I just don t know about them). Also I m not yet 21 seems Tesla is okay with any age test driving as long as you have a valid US driver s license. In case any of you want to try it out. For reference I m in Philadelphia.

2019-07-06 19:07:17

Your experience is HUGELY important to the future of Tesla and of EVs more broadly. Be sure to tell all of your friends to go get a test drive too so that as you all graduate and head off to your first Real Job with your first Real Car Payment those car payments are for Teslas rather than dinosaur burners.

2019-07-06 19:57:27

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Some Semi-Educated Guesses on Model III Pricing &amp Battery Size

I hadn t seen too many posts with predictions on the Model III backed with math so I thought I d give it a shot. Feel free to critique I just thought I would try to do some back-of-the-napkin math and see what comes out. And also because we only have to wait until March 31st to get some real details. TLDR comparing efficiency (miles per kw) and weight in the Model S and X means that a theoretical Model III 70D weighing 3600 lbs would go 287 miles with a lower model 50D going 215 miles. Using current pricing differences between RWD vs. AWD and smaller vs. bigger battery Model III prices can be estimated (starting at $35k for the lower model +$5k for Dual Motor and +$10k for bigger battery) and line up almost exactly with the competition the BMW 3 series. How big will the battery be? I ve read comments that Elon wants 200 miles of usable range so I think 220 would be a good guess. Now looking at the efficiency (stated as miles per kw) of the different S and X models gives us these numbers: Model S 90D (4800 lbs): 290 miles 90 kw = 3.22 miles kw Model S 70D = 240 miles 70 kw = 3.43 miles kw Model X 90D (5600 lbs): 260 miles 90 kw = 2.89 miles kw Model X 70D = 220 miles 70 kw = 3.14 miles kw. So comparing efficiency of the 70D vs. 90D gives us a 6.5% (in the S) and 8.65% (in the X) improvements. The only thing I can think of is weight difference in the batteries (if anyone can chime in with the weight difference between the 70D vs. 90D in either model that would be helpful). Now comparing efficiency of the S vs. X (factoring weight) means that the S weighing 600 lbs less results in an efficiency gain somewhere between 9.2% (in the 70D models) and 11.4% (in the 90D models) better efficiency than the X. Now here s the fun part we re going to extrapolate those results. I m going to use the results from the 70D (9.2% improvement when weight is reduced 600 lbs) as that s a potential battery size for the Model III. 5400 lbs: Model X 70D: 3.14 miles kw 4800 lbs: Model S 70D: 3.43 miles kw 4200 lbs: nothing (3.43 * 1.092) = 3.75 miles kw 3600 lbs: theoretical Model III 70D: (3.75 * 1.092) = 4.1 miles kw Hmm now we re getting somewhere. Using those metrics a 70 kw battery and dual motor drive gives us a range of 287 miles. But what about the lower-end model? Using the current Tesla configurations (a 20 kw difference) we ll just go ahead and assume a 50kw battery. But what about the efficiency? This is a little tricky but stick with me. Model X (5600 lbs): (3.14 m kw 2.89 m kw) = 8.65% improvement Model S (4800 lbs): (3.43 m kw 3.22 m kw) = 6.52% improvement Nothing at 4200 lbs Model III (3600 lbs): 6.52 is about 75% of 8.65 so do that two more times and we get a value of 3.7% improvement. *I admit this could be going off the deep end but just stick with me. So we have an estimate of the lower battery Model III being 3.7% more efficient than the 70D. So if the 70D is 4.1 miles kw then the 50D would be (4.1 * 1.037) = 4.25 miles kw ultimately giving us a range of 212.5 miles. How sure are you about the weight? Estimates were that the battery in a Model S 85D weighed 1200 lbs (as of 2013-2015 I believe not entirely sure which exact year). So if the Model III is supposed to be 80% in both body length as well as body weight we can estimate the numbers pretty accurately. Model S: 3600 lbs (body) + 1200 lbs (battery) = 4800 lbs (total) Model III: 2900 lbs (body) + ? = 3600 lbs (total) So if the smaller battery is 50 kw then it should weight (50 90)*1200 = 666.67 lbs. Now with the batteries being built at the gigafactory and comments from Elon and JB Straubel indicating a 5-10% energy density improvement per year we can go ahead and multiply that weight by 95% two times (for a 2017 battery) giving us 666.67 * .95 * .95 = 601.67 lbs. Does that match up with our 3600 lb weight prediction? Well 2900 + 600 = 3500 so it actually beats it by 100 lbs. So the lower model should actually get a little better than 212.5 miles more like 215. Now the final step….. which is a complete guess. I m guessing that the Gigafactory batteries will be more efficient and lighter (based on comments about 5-10% improvement per year in multiple battery metrics as well as the eventual release of the 20700 battery) and that ultimately the Model III 50D will get closer to 4.5 miles per kw not 4.25 as mentioned above (besides 4.5 is only 5.9% bigger than 4.25 so that s not that much of a stretch in improvement given a late 2017 launch). That gives us a range of 50 * 4.5 = 225 miles and I don t think 230 is out of the question. So there we go. My prediction is a Model III 50D model with 225 miles of range and a Model III 70D with 287 miles of range. I admit a Model III 70D with almost 290 miles of range sounds insane so they may scale it back to 65 kw to not encroach on the Model S but I could see either happening. What do you guys think? Now for price. All of this is based on three pieces of information 1) The main competition will be the BMW 3-series 2) The Model III will start at $35 000. 3) Current price differences (Tesla only) of RWD vs. AWD smaller vs. bigger battery. Model III 50: $35 000 BMW 328i: $38 350 Model III 50D $40 000 BMW 328i xDrive: $40 350 Model III 70: $45 000 BMW 340i: $45 800 Model III 70D: $50 000 BMW 340i xDrive: $47 800 Model III P70D: $65 000 BMW M3: $63 500-$66 400 Whoa that matches up exactly. All we have to do is assume that Dual Motor is $5k more and the bigger battery is $10k more. So that about covers it. I attempted to be pretty neutral concerning the numbers. In all honesty the 5-10% improvements that Elon and JB Straubel consistently reference and the scale of the gigafactory could mean that these numbers (efficiency) are underrated. I saw a Tesla article on Seeking Alpha that predicted a 45kw and 65kw battery but I steer clear of Seeking Alpha articles as they are way too biased both for and against. Comments? Corrections? *Edit: Thanks to u paulwesterberg for pointing out that aerodynamics play a big part in efficiency (shorter vehicle = less efficient aerodynamics) not sure how to factor this into the numbers above but it s all just fun and speculation anyway.

2016-02-11 20:53:17

I agree that the Model 3 will probably be more efficient than the Model S but at the same time I don t see Tesla putting less battery in the Model 3 than GM is putting in the Bolt. I agree that range is what matters and less battery -&gt less weight -&gt more range but most consumers don t understand that yet. Yes the 3 will be lighter and that helps to improve urban suburban efficiency but a shorter vehicle is more difficult to make aerodynamic so you highway efficiency goes to shit and that is where you really need the range. So my guess is that Tesla sets the battery sizes at 60 &amp 80. That would give the car the same energy storage as the bolt but with better efficiency for longer range.

2016-02-11 21:49:36

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

2019.40.2.5 + FSD (AP2 Model S) in Germany

I have received the 2019.40.2.5 update. I have had FSD enabled for almost a year on my AP2 Model S. I am based in Germany and I was pretty happy to get the advanced summon in this last update although it s EU Nerfed. My question is can anyone think of why FSD visualizations wouldn t be available to me? It s not in the options to enable at all.

2020-01-01 14:19:14

Visualizations also require HW3

2020-01-01 14:32:27

Tesla Autopilot Performance

NVIDIA AI system in the Model 3

Who will be the first to open the section under the glovebox to see which NVIDIA AI system the Model 3 carries. Somebody did it with the Model S. Curious to see if there are differences.

2018-01-10 15:52:25

For those more informed it s the DRIVE PX 2 in the Model S X. https: electrek.co 2017 05 22 tesla-nvidia-supercomputer-self-driving-autopilot https: www.nvidia.com en-us self-driving-cars partners tesla The question is when it will go to XAVIER.

2018-01-10 16:41:37

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Fremont CA police say Tesla Patrol Car Pilot Program a Success

Local to me they love this car and it s not even a new one. [https: sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com 2020 11 19 fremont-police-tesla-patrol-car-pilot-program-success ](https: sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com 2020 11 19 fremont-police-tesla-patrol-car-pilot-program-success )

2020-11-19 22:24:33

I was going to copy some quotes from the article to share here in a reply but honestly every paragraph was quote-worthy. Just go read the article.

2020-11-19 22:35:35

Tesla Software Updates Overview

Some things got worse for me in 2018.10.4 AutoPilot. Anyone else? [Discussion]

Much of the AP functionality seems greatly improved in 10.4 however a couple things I ve observed after a week with the new version are pretty disappointing steps backward. I have a July 2017 build S75D. (AP2) Panic braking “for no apparent reason” is much worse - especially while driving under overpasses or with multiple cars in front. I ve had at least a half dozen pretty startling panic brake incidents that wouldn t have happened in previous versions. All of them happened at relatively low speed in stop &amp go traffic. The interstates around Atlanta no longer seem to support auto lane-change. At all. Ever. Previously it only worked on interstates - not on state highways with multi-lane divided traffic. Now it appears completely disabled. (Adjacent lanes don t appear in the IC.) It s pure speculation but it s almost like the fleet learning data for my area got blacked out. Both of these issues affect my daily commute. As cool as I think the ability to handle B roads better is given the choice at this moment I would prefer to downgrade to 2018.10.1 and get back the functionality I lost and eliminate the panic braking. Has anyone else experienced similar issues or other new issues with 10.4?

2018-03-26 22:02:40

Is it possible for you to make a video and demonstrate some issues?

2018-03-26 22:12:47

Tesla Autopilot Performance

Model 3 standard range delivered as a standard range.

I picked up my 2nd model 3 today. I ordered this one as a standard range $35 400 model. Nothing else. I know others that did this got the standard range plus and are getting downgraded at some point. Mine came already downgraded . The question is since mine has a software limit of 220 mile of range would I still be correct to charge it to 100% knowing that it s actually a 240 mile range battery and my cars software is limiting me to only charging 90% of the actual 240 mile battery?

2019-06-20 22:31:53

Charge to 100% and let us know if you have full regen.

2019-06-21 00:06:27

Tesla Supercharger Road Trips

Will fsd price increase for all cars or just new ones?

On the subject of FSD and the price going up will the price increase for people that had already purchased their cars and not upgraded yet? ie going from 7k to a higher amount? Or is the newer higher price going to be for just new cars out of the factory? Im not sure if I missed a tweet on this subject or an article from a website.

2019-04-15 12:35:00

I feel like Tesla should honor the “$X 000 upgrade if added after delivery” statements. Otherwise why offer a price now? I don t think anyone deserves a refund when car prices are lowered but Tesla should honor their statements or just stop making them.

2019-04-15 13:20:42

Tesla Autopilot Performance

Customer service issue at Burbank Service Center. Tesla non-responsive. Advice welcome!

Hey everyone I m having some customer service issues with Tesla at the moment and could use some advice and perspective. I m a big Tesla fan: I stood in line on March 31st 2016 to reserve a Model 3 and rented one on Turo in early 2018 to review it for my podcast. I feel like I should front load my fanboy bonafides because there s a lot of negative coming down the pike: This is my second substantial experience with a Tesla service center and unfortunately my second negative one. My first experience was three days after purchasing my car back in September 2018. The engine (**edit: drive unit**) malfunctioned and the car was in the Van Nuys shop for 2 weeks. During this period my car was forgotten about misplaced by employees and the personal contents of my car were put into another customer s vehicle for a day before being tracked down across town by the manager. Not a fun experience 3 days into ownership! On to my current situation. For several months there s been a phantom car behind my vehicle. As in a car shows up on screen while there are no actual vehicles behind my car. After several calls and pushed firmware updates I made an appointment with Burbank Service for July 2nd. I turned the car in that morning. I checked my Tesla app later that week which said the car would be ready to be picked up July 5th at 10 AM. I called the center that morning and was told the message was a mistake and that the car had not yet been examined. No problem - it was a holiday week. They said to call back Monday. All good! I called Monday and the call went to voicemail. Unfortunately the voicemail box was full and I could not leave a message. I tried later that day. The voicemail was full. I tried Tuesday and Wednesday - no one answered and the voicemail box was full both days. I received a call from Tesla early evening on Wednesday and was told my car would be ready the following morning Thursday July 11th. I went to the Burbank service center Thursday morning. My car was returned to me covered in dirt grime and bird droppings. Here are some photos I took on-site at the service center: [https: imgur.com a Ql1SZgO](https: imgur.com a Ql1SZgO) The employee who returned my vehicle - who was incredibly nice and personable it should be noted - told me that standard practice is to leave the cars outside uncovered for the duration of their stay at the center. He went on to say that their previous policy was to wash the cars before returning them to customers but this was discontinued due to orders from Tesla Corporate. The largest bird dropping which had dried in the sun some days prior was on the trunk above the left tail light. And it was a doozy. I expressed my frustration to the employee: I don t expect any kind of special treatment but my previous car - a ten-year-old Scion - was always returned clean from the Toyota service center. Teslas are considerably more premium and the customer service experience is soured when your car is returned in worse condition than when you dropped it off. The employee expressed his sympathies but said there was nothing he could do. And honestly he was slammed with customers. I left. I immediately took the car to [my usual wash](https: www.yelp.com biz usa-detail-center-hand-car-wash-los-angeles-2). I ordinarily get the standard $50 wash package but was told that because the dirt and grime was so baked in the best course of action was the $160 detail with polish option. The car was returned 2 hours later and the employee said that the bird droppings had permanently damaged the paint. (Photos included in the Imgur album.) I called the Tesla Service Center and told the manager everything that had happened along with the permanent damage done to the car s paint while it was in their care. He said to email him and that he would escalate the matter to the regional manager. I explained everything in detail and included the same pictures you re seeing. That same afternoon I also emailed Tesla Corporate and tweeted and DM d @Tesla on Twitter. It is now August 10th and I haven t heard from anyone I contacted. I have sent multiple follow up messages - all polite courteous but concerned - to all parties. This past week I called the Burbank Service Center and an employee told me the manager would call me back. This never happened. I don t understand why I haven t heard from anyone. So two questions for the community: 1.) Am I overreacting here? Is the dirt and paint damage not a big deal? Maybe I need a reality check. 2.) What should my next course of action be? Thank you for your time. I ve grown to cherish this community over the years. I appreciate any advice you can provide.

2019-08-11 00:16:13

Definitely not overreacting. You paid a lot of money for the car and they should understand and respect that. If they re going to take possession of your car they should care for it. You had to pay 160$ for a detail and end up with damaged paint for the incompetence of an employee? No way that s acceptable. This would never fly at a Mercedes or BMW dealership. If they can t figure out a way to keep the cars inside they need to figure out a way to cover the cars under a tent. They can t charge premium prices for a car and expect not to provide premium service. I ve had an experience with the burbank service center as well. They had my car covered entirely in water spots from water tests luckily it all came off. Keep emailing the manager if there isn t a response go to the service center and wait for a manager to show up talk to them in person.

2019-08-11 01:49:45

Tesla Service Experience Feedback

A thought about Tesla and Level 3 4 Autonomy

As we all know one of the major obstacles between level 2 and 3 4 autonomy is liability - not only the legal ramifications of what party is responsible for autocorrect failing to avoid an accident but the ability to determine situations that MobilEye s CEO calls corner events - the intuitive driving decisions that are individually rare but happen all the time that no amount of programming can prepare a self-driving car for and essentially boil down to case-by-case situations that human drivers need to solve in the moment. Stuff like construction vehicles the car doesn t recognize handwritten signs wildlife a pedestrian wearing a weird costume etc. That said full autonomy seems to have a glass ceiling because of those two problems - no company has enough cars on the road to gather the information needed to train the AI and gathering that information would require a liability that would likely doom even an enormous company with lawsuits and bad press even in the event of a small handful of errors. Google can t do it because they don t have the numbers. Tesla can t do it because they can t afford to lose any money right now. Major car makers won t do it because autonomy is a disruptive technology and we all know how they feel about those. So for Level 3 4 to become a reality there needs to be a company who can collect and analyze an unprecedented amount of data without risking financial disaster if one of their cars makes a mistake. Can someone with a little more education on the subject weigh in here: what would keep Tesla from essentially debuting fully-autonomous functionality as an open beta software something for which the driver would waive their right to hold Tesla legally liable for AP-related accidents? An open beta would accomplish the two things above - huge data inflow with no liability on the company s shoulders - and additionally it might actually be safer because in the early stages it would combat driver distraction complacency if the driver was fully aware that s he might need to take over at any time because any accident would be their own liability. With 400 000 new AP-capable cars about to hit the road (owned entirely by excited reservation holders) even a small percentage of people willing to test out the software could generate an unprecedented amount of valuable data and at essentially no risk to Tesla outside of bad press - but with vigilant drivers who are not going to try to sleep or watch movies while they drive accidents would be kept to a minimum. I for one would risk an at-fault insurance claim to test out software I truly believe will make driving safer in the long run and I think a lot of other people would too. (This is not to sound cavalier with my own or anyone else s safety - in this scenario I d know I would have to be as careful as ever or more so.) Is this a possibility? What are the chances this is how we ll see AP 2.0 debut? TL DR: Beta baby

2016-05-11 23:14:37

No need to do that really I think when there is the Model 3 part 2 unveil they will show the new autopilot sensors perhaps mention possible features but say there aren t any new features at the moment. Then 400 000 cars hit the road and they collect as much data as they want. Software update a year later brings full autonomy capability. TL DR: No need to release before it is really ready they can collect data with cars and have software update later.

2016-05-12 01:35:46

Tesla Autopilot Performance

Is early vehicle delivery anything to be careful about?

I placed an order for a standard model 3(35k) with wheel upgrade and non-black color. The rep that placed the order for me said that I should expect it to come in 6-8 weeks(instead of 2-4weeks) due to people placing order before the federal tax credit get slashed again. However the day after I ordered I got a notice saying that I my delivery date would be in 7 days and there is already a VIN for my car. Is this anything to be suspicious about? Is this situation likely that someone has rejected the car due to defects or other reasons? If anyone ordered recently how long did it take to get your vehicle ready? A question on the side. After hearing about the recent financial problems Tesla is having would it be better to hold off on the purchase?

2019-05-23 03:33:28

Don t except it! They re trying to trick you into taking possession of a perfectly good car.

2019-05-23 03:41:23

Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences

What should I check for when taking delivery of a Model 3?

So were picking up our Model 3 tomorrow (yeah finally!) Is there an official list of parts that come with the car? What should I check for when taking delivery? Any other things you guys and girls can recommend that I should put an eye upon tomorrow?

2020-06-09 22:17:41

[https: github.com mykeln teslaprep](https: github.com mykeln teslaprep)

2020-06-09 23:08:55

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Model 3 door handle in Snow

With the Model 3 door handles being embedded in the car and not being self-presenting how hard will it be to open the door in the winter in colder areas? My current handles on my Honda are sometimes frozen here in Michigan and take a good pull to open the door.

2017-10-11 14:25:37

You can preheat the car from the app which may help with your frozen handle problem.

2017-10-11 14:43:28

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

When will Tesla bring back the Roadster?

That is all. Just curious on what y all think would expect.

2015-06-06 21:34:56

Accelerate the advent of sustainable transport A new Roadster doesn t contribute to Tesla s goal except if they can make a Roadster that is literally the best sportscar that you can buy in which case it would be the ultimate proof for EV superiority which would increase interest in their cheaper models (basically make the Roadster a PR stunt). This requires pretty badass engineering and not being supply constrained (as long as they are it doesn t make sense to increase demand). Until then I think they ll try to push their prices down either by dropping prices or introducing cheaper models.

2015-06-06 22:09:04

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Full Superchargers?

Have any of you seen a situation where the Supercharger parking spots are all full of non-Tesla cars? There s a SC station about a mile from where I work in a shopping plaza. I ve started taking notice of the availability of the spots since my order was finalized and I almost always see ICE cars parked in the spots and occasionally filling all the spots. Have you seen this? Is there anything that can be done in a non-douchebag sort of way to stop it? I don t particularly care if people park there as long as there s a bay open when I need it just wasn t sure what the official courses of action might be...

2014-07-07 18:05:52

I keep little pre-printed you re illegally parked in an EV spot notices in my vehicle. I ve fortunately only had to use one.

2014-07-07 20:54:24

Tesla Supercharger Road Trips

AP1 disabled rest of the drive....

Overall I think ignoring ap warnings for not holding the wheel merit autosteer to be disabled. However when you exceed the speed limit of autosteer it should not be disabled. I put the car to the floor when I noticed a semi getting a bit to close to my car and within a moment I was over 90. Hands on the wheel and all next thing I know ap is disabled until next restart! WTF have a 200+ mile drive I am on so annoying. I pulled over at the next off ramp and restarted the car. This speed restriction is fairly new as I have never seen it in the past anyone else getting annoyed with new restrictions every minor update? https: imgur.com gallery oxlpK

2017-05-08 21:21:26

First you don t have to restart just shift to park. Second its for safety they are not just being jerks. The car can only process data so fast aka 90mph hitting the accelerator while its engaged is dangerous. If AP s limit is 90mph and you went beyond that and wrecked I m sure some would sue blame Tesla AP for letting you go past its safety limit.

2017-05-08 21:30:58

Tesla Autopilot Performance

New Tesla Owner First Day - Service Required - Unable to charge

Picked up a new M3 Stealth P last night and had the family out all day in it. After a 200mi pickup drive home we swung by the local Tesla supercharger for a top off for the upcoming week. We left the M3 plugged in doing over 400mi hr &amp 115+kW needing about 40 minutes and went for a bite to eat. About 25 minutes in I get a notice on the app that charging has been interrupted around 72%. I go out to the car to check it out and find two error messages: One was the charging interrupted the other - more concerning is - Car needs service - unable to charge . No issues driving home but pulling into the garage the dash completely went dark and rebooted itself. Needless to say I m concerned but hopeful for a quick routine fix. Any others seen know about such issues? Edit: I will add that I successfully did a test charge last night before the Supercharger today on a 48A wall charger at a local destination. One thing I now find odd it would start at 48A but the car would wind itself down to 46A after 5-10min.

2019-11-18 03:18:06

Update: Called road side service per @klownicle and others suggested. Took about 15 min to answer but found error message and it was high level and info literally said Often Does not mean anything is wrong with car . Between that and the supercharger info he didn t see anything that concerned him. Fortunately I am about .5 miles from a 48A Tesla charger and drove over to test it with him on the phone...no issue. Agent said a major issue would often show up within a few minutes as soon as the Amperage ramped up. Told me to monitor for a few weeks and another message would warrant an inspection. Thanks to those who helped...this calmed my new owner fears.

2019-11-18 04:44:38

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

First time car buyer confused by what to do next

So I ve place my order for my model 3 online. I live 210 miles from the nearest showroom. My credit union sent me the following: Documents needed from dealership: Copy of title front and back with our lien on back of title If new the MSO with our lien on the back of title a copy of the window sticker or msrp Signed Buyers order with our lien Odometer statement Title application from dealer with our lien Carfax &amp #x200B I emailed the Tesla Rep informing them of what my bank has told me but I haven t heard anything back. I don t know that my credit union has ever dealt with Tesla before but I told them that it isn t really a dealership and they told me that this is what they need. Hoping to hear some feedback on if this is normal or what as I m clueless when it comes to purchasing a vehicle. And buying a Tesla seems to be a somewhat unique experience in and of itself.

2019-05-24 23:23:44

Hi congrats on your new car. This is not very difficult. You just need your sales agent to give you a MVPA which will have almost all the information you need. When your sales agent responds to you they will give you everything you need.

2019-05-24 23:34:54

Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences

Does anyone know more about the premium speakers that come with the model 3 5K package?

I currently have subwoofers in my car and I m wondering if the premium speakers will need it. For people in the Model S how is the sound system? Does it have good bass?

2017-08-04 20:29:17

[Exclusive pics of premium audio subwoofers](http: imgur.com OzdNc)

2017-08-04 20:35:32

Tesla sound system comparisons

Charging options in community living.

For people who own Teslas in Apartments Condos what kind of charging options do you have in the facility. My current complex has a Blink Level 2 charger but it maxes at 24 amps which kinda sucks. I was looking to recommend a better solution so I was wondering if anyone has a charging solution for community parking that they are happy with.

2015-01-22 01:33:52

None. I use ChargePoint at an office building that s right across the street and I can park 24 7 for a monthly rate. I ve had electricians come out to get a quote about getting my HPWC installed and wired but never got a formal quote.

2015-01-22 07:45:04

Tesla Supercharger Road Trips

Would anyone want to take a fan for a ride in Montreal? I ll buy lunch.

30 m here. Constantly tuned to everything Tesla SpaceX Musk. Visited the dealership after work hours to ogle many times. It would be a great experience and help cement my goal to own one. Plus you know free lunch and beer... EDIT: A couple people actually reached out and I expect to go on my first ride by the end of the month! Both will be visiting Montreal and I m going to offer my services as your guide. THANKS!

2015-07-01 22:32:32

This could be done P85 here 18 months of experience. South shore of Montreal lunch time ? July 9th ?

2015-07-02 13:54:08

Tesla Factory Tour Restrictions

What s the primary Tesla forum?

Something akin to Rennlist for Porsche but for Tesla? Happy learning from the community here but figure there may be more out there. Google doesn t make it clear which of the many that pop up gets the most traction.

2020-12-08 18:51:27

TMC

2020-12-08 18:51:56

Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors

UPDATE: Repair of 2018 Model X front collision

About 1 month ago I crashed my Model X. Since I [posted about it](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments cpjxfv crashed_my_modelx_day_1 ) back then and received some helpful advice I figured I would give an update for others going through this mess. Below is a picture from right after the accident and below that is a picture from this morning after the repair. Honestly it seems as good as new. The total cost of the repair was about $17 000 plus another $1 000 for towing. Most of the repair cost is parts. Details [are here](https: imgur.com a OdABz3g). I originally filed a claim with my insurance company. Many folks suggested filing a claim with the other person s insurance (they were deemed 100% at fault...more on that in a minute). However after talking with the repair shop and my insurance broker I decided to file with my insurance company because they had better coverage according to the repair shop. The claim was in fact subrogated to the other party and I ended up paying nothing. My insurance agent (as well as MAPFRE) both said that I would not see any change to my rate (my policy renewed a month before the accident). All told it took 4 weeks to get the repairs done. 3 weeks of that was waiting for the parts. They had originally told me 4-6 seeks so I was overall pleased. I did get a call from the other party s insurance company but they were just calling to offer me a rental car. I didn t call them back because I have another car that I was using. Overall I was super impressed with how easy the claims process was. I had the dashcam video plus testimony from two witnesses so the whole claims process took less than 48 hours to determine it with the other party s fault. Interestingly the police report didn t list fault was I was later told that they don t list fault in cases where they didn t witness the accident (unless there is an injury). So in my case (no injuries) the dashcam video was crucial. One thing that was strange with the [dashcam video](https: imgur.com a 0Tt4DxO) was a gap between the clips. I don t know why that was but someone on Reddit suggested it might be because I pressed the save button on the media center just after the accident and that perhaps I should have waited a few minutes. I don t know that I would have had to hit the save button at all since the dashcam records a lot of recent video (and I have a 128GB thumbdrive now). If I ever get in another accident I m going to wait and then hit the save button just before removing the thumbdrive. Overall my only issue (and not really one at that) is the repair too a month. Other than that it was as smooth as an accident can be. https: preview.redd.it 28ccy86qj0m31.jpg?width=4032&amp format=pjpg&amp auto=webp&amp s=cc8c35ca858122f293d0cd22dc3c12534535d7b2 https: preview.redd.it pqxyg86qj0m31.jpg?width=4032&amp format=pjpg&amp auto=webp&amp s=eaed48377bc038e1d8ba288c5f16b02cef9f1188

2019-09-11 19:18:24

Excellent post. be sure to get a diminished value claim going.

2019-09-11 19:36:02

Tesla Service Experience Feedback

I am researching a Powerwall and I am confused about the impact of rebates and ability to use as we want to. (California)

Ideally the best person to respond would be someone who has a Powerwall in California who claimed the federal and state incentives to fund their energy project. But if anyone else is familiar with the matter please feel free to comment. &amp #x200B I am trying to convince my parents to get a Powerwall for our home and I m trying to do the math to see if we can afford it. They are opposed to loans but I did tell them I d loan them a few thousand until they could pay it back they re opposed to that too but I m sure I could convince them. Their budget is $3 000. (Could be $6 000 with my personal loan). Here s two things that alone would make this affordable: The federal ITC rebate (Currently 30% likely 26% when if we had the Powerwall installed) and the California SGIP rebate that can be used for energy storage. Our cooking heating and clothes dryer are natural gas so they don t put a lot of load on electricity usage which also means our energy usage is fairly consistent and predictable. My PG&amp E off peak rates are from 12AM to 3PM ($0.16) peak is 4-9PM($0.47) and the other 4 hours are $0.36) Our winter peak is $0.34 but our solar outputs more in the summer so average rates per kWh in total are similar throughout the year. If we can get the SGIP and ITC incentives then I am almost certain we could afford this project. What I have figured out is that one Powerwall should be enough to run the basics in our house for a day such as food storage some lights water pump and cooking heating (Since they use natural gas for fuel) especially when paired with our solar which might let us go for a few days if we are very conservative with energy use and the weather is good. More than enough. There s also the potential ability to save us money on our electric bill. If I charged it during off peak hours it d cost about $2 to charge but save me $6 in peak rates if I used it then. This only works if I can charge my powerwall from the grid but when I was reading about the rebates people were saying you don t have this type of control over your powerwall if you want to qualify for the incentives. * Is it true that in order to qualify for ITC and or SGIP that you don t have full control over the powerwall to save you the most money from charging at off peak and using during peak? Here are my questions for my calculations: * Does the federal ITC rebate cover just the powerwall itself? Or the total cost? Such as other equipment installation costs permits and taxes too? I tried googling that and some sites say the ITC covers total cost but I don t know what total cost means. Everything? Or just total equipment cost? * The California rebate is what I m very confused about. From what I ve read Tesla maxed out the rebate and I must go through a 3rd party in order to qualify. But when looking into that I ve seen many people say 3rd party installers that do qualify for these rebates often mislead customers by including the value of the rebate in the quote or they claim it. I m not sure about the truthfulness of these claims so I d love to see if anyone has first hand experience with the SGIP with Tesla (if that s even possible anymore) or a 3rd party. &amp #x200B Did I get anything wrong? Please let me know thanks!

2019-10-14 04:38:17

The ITC rebate is on the full cost of the project. Tesla has maxed out the SGIP rebate so you would need to go with a third party installer. As of last year all of the options were significantly more. To get both rebates the Powerwall must charge only from the solar generation not from the grid except during stormwatch and can only power the home not export directly to the grid. You can set peak shoulder and off-peak times for TOU mode but you do not have direct control of when the Powerwall is charging or discharging. Overall unlike solar the Powerwall is unlikely to ever come close to paying for itself. You are buying stability during outages.

2019-10-14 04:57:17

Issues with Tesla Energy Installation

All it took was a test drive

So I ve been into Tesla for a while. Love the look of the cars always watch their reveals bought some stock. I would talk my dads ear off about how a Tesla should be his next car and how it s the future. He d always say the company wouldn t make a profit issues with charging and just didn t see how Tesla would ever be more than just a toy for some. I told him to buy stock when it was at $300 but he wouldn t budge. Anyway last week my family drove from Vancouver to Calgary to see my folks and my dad booked a test drive for the two of us just for fun. He s wanting a new car kinda soon. He likes Infiniti s and was probably going to get one of those. Until we drove a model Y. The instant we took the on-ramp to the highway I could tell my dad was impressed. It was just the long range version but it was plenty fast. Passing anything on the highway was too easy. Before you know it we re going 140 in a 100 zone. And the auto pilot was flawless. He kept saying how impressed he was with the engineering. ‘Incredible machine ‘your mom could get a model 3! Etc. All it took was a test drive to kill any hesitation he had before. I have no doubt he ll buy a Tesla before me.

2020-08-10 21:53:04

It s a let s go just look at the puppies moment! Well played OP!

2020-08-10 22:29:37

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Model 3 Key Fob back in stock

For those of you who were looking to get it the Model 3 Key fob is [back in stock!](https: shop.tesla.com us en product vehicle-accessories model-3-key-fob.html) &amp #x200B ***Note: Does not support passive entry or summon. Review Owner s Manual for additional information.*** ***Note: Current shipping estimate is 3-4 weeks from date of order.*** edit: I did not buy one as it doesn t support passive entry. Please search and read reviews of it as many people are not a fan of it! I m posting though as I know some people (including my friend) were looking for them to come back in stock to buy regardless of the lack of features.

2018-11-30 15:48:41

We should get two with each car for FREE and it should have summon and passive entry. This fob is a half ass fix at best anyway. Basically Teslas Elon cheeped out on a $60k car I can even understand making that an additional option for $35k base model but not for a car with premium interior options range and autopilot. &amp #x200B PS: this is coming from die-hard Elon Tesla SpaceX fan

2018-11-30 17:14:06

Model 3 phone key issues

HW3 upgrade

I have an upcoming tire rotation appointment with Tesla. After reading about people getting upgraded to HW3 I took the chance and added a comment to see if I could get my Model 3 LR RWD upgraded. I live in NJ so I knew this was a long shot. A few minutes after I received the following text message: “Hello this is the Tesla virtual team reaching out to inform you that hardware 3 is currently not available for your vehicle. An outstanding work order has been generated for you and a member from our team will contact you when it is ready.” Hopefully it will be soon!

2019-12-12 23:10:01

Yeah not much activity on the East coast so far.

2019-12-12 23:11:46

Tesla Autopilot Performance

Black paint &gt black attracts heat &gt warm battery = more range?

Is there any merit to this? Is it even possible that cars with darker paint have better efficiency? Just curious to people s thoughts.

2017-08-12 12:13:40

The battery is nowhere near the paint.............. certainly not in contact with it to make a difference. And then the cooling system negates anything else.

2017-08-12 12:35:34

Model 3 Seat Impressions

Ludicrous upgrade for the Model X in the Tesla store now.

Just saw the after purchase Ludicrous upgrade for the Model X is [available](http: shop.teslamotors.com collections model-x products ludicrous-mode-p90d-1) for purchase in the online store now. Neat.

2016-03-23 11:55:58

Cost of labor not included! Wow in addition to $10 000

2016-03-23 13:02:43

Tesla Model Comparison

Does Sentry Mode Record a rear-end Accident while Parked?

Long story short I rented my MS2019 out to someone for a wedding yesterday and unfortunately someone backed into it. I know that Sentry Mode was on the whole day because I was checking the app almost every hour. Once I got the car today I ve been going through all the footage and can t find the incident. All I see are people talking near the car. Interestingly I don t see any recordings past 3PM and I know the incident occurred around 6PM because that s when the guest called and informed me. So I suspected someone deleted the files and ran Recuva on the hard drive. That just gave me a whole bunch of videos from 10AM-2PM but nothing from the incident. Now I m just wondering if it was even recorded...

2020-05-17 18:16:28

Is it conceivable that you ve been lied to? Why would they bother deleting footage that would support their story? What makes more sense is that they backed into someone something and claim someone else backed into the car while parked as a cover story. Would explain why there s no sentry footage because it wouldn t record while driving. So if it wasn t masterfully deleted then the only other conclusion is that the person renting it was responsible for the accident.

2020-05-17 19:47:50

Issues with Sentry Mode

China has agreed to reduce and remove tariffs on cars coming into China from the U.S. Currently the tariff is 40%.

From the G20 summit Trump had dinner with President Xi Jinping. It was already known that the US would hold off on increasing tariffs from 10% to 25% on $200B of Chinese imports but today news is China to remove tariffs on cars imported to China. This could be really good news for Tesla since there was an article recently that Tesla s sales in China were supposedly down 70% (although disputed by Tesla as being significantly off with no actual numbers). Not sure when it s supposed to take effect but could make this quarter even better than it already is with growth in Europe and China. https: twitter.com realDonaldTrump status 1069441198157455360

2018-12-03 05:17:16

They were 15% before. They will be 15% now. They were 40% for a few months in retaliation to Trump s tariffs. Trump literally did nothing. China has been steadily lowering its tariffs on imported cars for several years now. The rate was 25% and they planned to cut it further to 15%. But to retaliate for Trump s tariffs they raised the tariff on US cars to 40%. https: www.wsj.com articles u-s-car-makers-left-in-the-dust-as-chinas-tariff-cuts-boost-europe-japan-1533901068 In other words Trump s tariffs put US auto exports in China s crosshairs when they had been lowering those tariffs on their own accord. He made things worse not better. And now he s claiming full credit for (possibly) undoing (some of) the damage he caused.

2018-12-03 16:52:08

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Reverse crosswalk detection

Coming from a Mazda 6 it had a feature called cross walk detection that would go off if I was reversing and someone was walking behind me. Or a car was coming. Today I noticed my m3 apparently lacks that feature would be a nice addition it maybe it s already there and I m too stupid to find it?

2019-05-02 12:45:50

is there an issue with the rear cam? its the highest res reverse cam ive seen in a car. should be easy to spot stuff no?

2019-05-02 12:59:04

Issues with Sentry Mode

Hi r teslamotors! I have a few question I wish you could answer.

What are the best estimates regarding battery cost? What are the sales estimates for the European market? Is Tesla planning to set up the same charging stations? Thanks!

2013-05-18 19:05:04

Replacement battery costs after 8 years are $10k for the 60kWh and $12k for the 85kWh. There is also an unconditional warranty on the battery (other than for collisions intentional abuse or opening of the battery pack by non-Tesla personnel) and although there is no data at our disposition about their degradation I would expect them to retain 80-90% of their charge after 8 years depending on use. I don t know about European sales but it seems that there are a lot of purchases around Norway because of the 100% tax (I think?) on fossil fuel vehicles. Tesla plans that 1 3 of their Model S sales will be in Europe next year according to wikipedia. They are planning worldwide superchargers some of them should start appearing late this year. There will also be a supercharger announcement next week maybe we ll know more about it then.

2013-05-18 19:56:48

Tesla Battery Production Optimization

FYI-- Insurance discounts by model year MAY be getting lost by Tesla owners

Was double-checking my insurance policy renewal today and noted my 2014 S lost its New Vehicle Discount -- which isn t much-- but as a matter of principle I thought I d try and enlighten my insurer. YMMV but maybe worth checking into. In my case I d still be out the discount because of when my insurance cycles but thought I d make an attempt to change the policy for others. My email: ------------------------------------------ I was reviewing my insurance policy and noted there was a New Vehicle Discount on offer... but I do not see it applied to my current policy (though it was in the past). Since Tesla does not do arbitrary model years like all other manufacturers (the basis for the discount being that a 2014 model year car built by any other company could have hit the road as early as October 2013) the date of the car s production should be used because that s what Tesla would use to determine a car s value (in the event of total loss). It would not be possible to buy a 2014 Tesla until after it was built on some date after January 1 2014... as all prior cars would be a 2013 model year Tesla right up until those built on December 31st. It s not a large amount of adjustment but your policies should be adjusted (company wide) to reflect that the value of this company s cars actually follow the calendar and not the silly traditional model years of other manufacturers. Therefore a new Tesla should not age out of the discount until January 1st of the current year-- not October 1st of the PRIOR year as the discount policy is currently written. If not I suspect we ll be having this conversation again in three years as I anticipate another new Tesla to be arriving in my garage within that time. Thanks! ---------------------------------------------

2017-03-04 18:18:57

Interesting thought. Good luck.

2017-03-04 18:58:44

Tesla insurance pricing comparison

Forget the tequila when is the S3XY Mug coming back?

Should have ordered when I first saw it now out of stock and selling for double on eBay. Was this a limited edition thing or will they be getting more?

2020-12-04 20:44:45

Mine came with imperfections on the inside coating. Reached out to Tesla twice now no response back..... TBH this mug looks and feels very cheap. Don t kick yourself over not getting it. I really hope the tequila is better.

2020-12-04 22:08:24

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Seeking your thoughts on buying a used Model X

Hi all I ve been a huge fan of Tesla for as long as I can remember put a deposit down for the Model 3 (but cancelled the reservation as the provincial government took away the green vehicle incentive). Since then I ve been eyeing used Model S as I didn t think a used Model X would be in my price range. My current car had it s AC go a couple of weeks ago--it s 10 years old and even the wife is thinking we should replace it. This past week while searching through used inventory on Tesla s website I saw a 2016 75D Model X come up (AP1) for a price I thought I d be spending on a used Model S (and ~7k - 15k less than I m used to seeing used Model X go for). I snapped it up right away but am unsure of going through with it. Here s why I m nervous - 1) Buying without really getting that time to test drive it as you don t really have that option with used Tesla s from the dealer. I did test drive a 2020 Model X but how does that compare to a used 2016?? 2) Why was it so cheap?? I know a lot of people say watch out for 2016 Model X and it doesn t have a lot of additional options which is fine the only one I kinda cared for was the subzero one but I don t think that s something I will regret not having. Here s the part of me that s still saying do it 1) It has pretty low mileage on it still (~50k miles 80k km) 2) It does come with tesla s 4 year 50 mi (80 km) warranty 3) I don t think I d ever find another used model X so cheap again without maybe sacrificing the warranty which is something I don t think I would want to forgo. And I d really prefer the X over the S due to the kids and cargo space--also the 6 seats is perfect for when we re going somewhere with grandparents So would like to get your expert opinion on this. Should I go for it - does the 4 year warranty help balance out the worry of the door issues? Any advice tips from people that have bought used Teslas?? Thanks hope this is in the right space -- wasn t sure if it should be in r TeslaLounge or here. And thanks in advance for your help

2020-06-01 14:48:28

If it was a private party or even a small dealer I would not consider it. But directly from Tesla or a bigger company that you can get to honor the warranty? Yes. I would not hesitate. The X had some issues with doors and there were some early motor trouble. If the car is working fine now these issues have almost certainly been fixed. But four years of coverage? I would feel safe.

2020-06-01 15:06:01

Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences

How late will Elon be tonight

Get your predictions in! I m going with 47 minutes.

2016-03-31 18:00:40

Elon is never late. Nor is he early. Elon arrives precisely when he means to.

2016-03-31 18:03:25

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Tesla Daily Discussion - September 11 2018

Use this daily thread for questions and answers general daily topic discussion and sharing your experiences (sightings orders deliveries custom vehicles vanity plates and now memes). Use this format to [share your order status](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93xpx4 tesla_daily_discussion_august_02_2018 e3grqk5 ). Find our [Latest Daily Discussions](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22&amp restrict_sr=on&amp include_over_18=on&amp sort=new&amp t=all). Share your [Ideas and Feedback](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Idea%2FFeedback+Megathread%22&amp restrict_sr=on&amp include_over_18=on&amp sort=new&amp t=all). See the most recent OTA Software Megathreads [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates). If you re looking for even more updates check out [active podcasts](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki podcasts). And finally remember to be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules.

2018-09-11 09:12:03

Just ordered Model S 100D!!!!! I am so excited!!! White pearl 19 Splitstream Black interior Glass roof with referal code and its from inventory so I could get it next week!!! And free Supercharging!!!

2018-09-11 12:38:57

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

For those of you with Spotify loading issues...

...I *may* have a workaround for a specific use-case that I d love others to test if you re able! I was having the typical issues of a single song playing then looping or playlists refusing to advance to the next song automatically. A Two Scroll Wheel Salute™ would fix it. I narrowed down what was causing it to a [Raspotify](https: github.com dtcooper raspotify) setup I have in the house. I use Spotify Connect to stream music from it and the minute I d do that if I got in my 3 and drove off the same loading issues would start all over again. So I started to narrow variables down from there and I *may* have found what was causing it in my case. Early on after the US release of Spotify folks sniffed around and found that Spotify was streaming to the cars at 96kbps. On my Raspotify setup I was streaming at 160kbps. So I went in and lowered the streaming quality on Raspotify to 96kbps and all my loading issues *seem* to have be resolved. I can t get to it fail like I could prior to the change no matter what I try. **TL DR** - If you use Spotify Connect devices lower the streaming quality to Normal 96kbps (if you re able to) and see if your loading issues are solved. I m curious if this helps anyone else!

2019-12-29 04:09:56

Ouch my ears... 96kbs? May as well listen to AM FM radio.

2019-12-29 04:15:45

Spotify Integration Analysis

Model 3 Delivery Note - Check the rear bench seat

Picked up my Model 3 yesterday! Mostly just posting to brag but I have a few data points that may be helpful to others lurking Tesla employees: 1. **Overall I was very impressed with the quality paint panel gaps etc.** This car was delivered in better shape than my Chevy Volt was originally. I took a good look around and the associate helping me said I ve never had anyone do this before. *Take the time to inspect* because... 2. **The Rear bench seat (the bottom part) was loose behind the drivers seat.** I sat on it and it made a noise then I noticed it kind of look liked a muppet. You could see the shiny metal bits underneath when lifting the seat a bit. The associate grabbed someone technical who was relieved to discover the issue was no big deal. It just snapped back into place all better. 3. **Very small abrasion in the glass roof** in the corner above the driver. So small I didn t even bother to bring it up with them. Still take a good hard look at all the glass before signing. 4. **Not the latest software.** It was such a madhouse around there end of quarter that I felt bad asking them to take the time to update it if that s even possible. Small gripe but I guess I m part of the family now waiting for updates. Car drives like a dream. Driving my Volt which I very much enjoyed prior to yesterday feels like some kind of punishment now. Congrats to Tesla team for making this real.

2018-03-30 14:42:38

u tesrella please add rear bench seat software version to the checklist and glass scratches

2018-03-30 14:57:18

Tesla Service Experience Feedback

Leasing Pre-Owned in Switzerland: 2% residual value?

Hi all I contacted Tesla to get the details for leasing a pre owned 2 years old Model S P85D costing around 70.000CHF (70.507 USD). According to the advisor: &gt Leasing is possible with Cashgate. The interest rate currently lies at 3.45% with fixed residual value of 2% of the purchase price. &gt That 2% suprised me so I ask about how a 70.000chf car can cost only 1.400chf after 4 years when in total will be 6 years old. The answer: &gt Yes 2% is correct. This is fixed as we don t have experience in the actual values the vehicles might have. We re still a young company on the market. &gt Of course the actual value will be much higher but the vehicle can be taken over after the lease for a very small amount and then traded in or sold for way more. So basically this is just **financing** a car not leasing it. If I have to pay 70k if in 4 years and THEN sell it I might as well get a brand new Model S enjoy a brand new car and then return it. Anyway at the end I am paying the same amount monthly. Are these leasing conditions similar in USA or any other country? [Discussion]

2017-11-21 08:42:43

I m leasing in Switzerland (ZH area). New car lease though and Handover happened in spetember 16 do conditions might have changed but I would recommend to get back to tesla and ask if there are other leasing options than cashgate. I have Alphera (used by BMW Mini as well)

2017-11-21 11:18:04

Tesla Lease Experience Considerations

Tesla financing for model 3

So I got my config invite and my plan is to finance the car. Tesla has an estimated loan payment on the payment page that reflects $5 000 down 72 months 3.25APR. Is this through Tesla s own financing? is the rate dependent on credit score? Do I have to go through tesla or can I choose to finance the car through a bank credit union? Also If I purchase the car today does that mean that the Federal Tax Credit would be based on the 2018 tax refund?

2018-03-23 05:22:09

Did anyone else have moment of awe committing to buy a $49k+ item using their phone?

2018-03-23 07:56:14

Tesla Financing Options

Next Up: Tesla Tourism

Go to a tourist agency rent a self driving Tesla car. Pick your destination(s). Actually you don t need an agency at all. Just rent a car (From Tesla store parking lot or from a Tesla owner?). Car drives your family and you everywhere. No buses trains or need to wait for everyone from your group to arrive and get on board. Informs you of the charging pauses and stops at almost any time on your demand. No need to think about paying or searching for refueling when will the bus driver stop so you or your kid can finally eat or go to a restroom no annoying loud passengers and their smelly feet. The app in the car is your guide telling you of all the significant locations events along the way. You re not focused on driving so you can look around with attention. It takes you to all locations you want to visit and waits for you there. The car takes you to the hotel. No taxi no public transportation no expensive fares and complicated payment systems. No more suffering because of the expensive roaming tariffs or the shitty WiFi in the hotel. Just use the car s internet connection when there s no better option (maybe select some data plan during the rental period?). The car points takes you to the best supermarket nearby and offers its articles in your language on the screen. You make an order and a person comes out of the shop in a few minutes and loads everything into the car. Actually you don t have to be present at all. Do it all with your cellphone. If you get a few beers too much from a local brewery the car drives you safely back to the hotel. Oh yes and during all that you don t even have to have a driver s license or know how to drive. Any other ideas? :)

2016-10-20 09:43:06

Red eye driving trips will be a thing. Right now we drive mostly during the day for trips. Imagine that you can just red-eye 6-12 hour trips instead in the comfort of your own cabin.

2016-10-20 10:35:58

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

I just found out you can tag a point on a map give it a nickname and navigate to it by its nickname using voice commands.

This might be obvious old news or irrelevant to others but was tremendously helpful for me. I started doing work at a second location but the name is a weird abbreviation without a physical address. I was navigating to a nearby landmark but wanted a better time estimate. I discovered if you add a place to your favorites then you can change it s nickname then search for it by that nickname. So here are all the steps. 1. Find a point in the map you want to save then press and hold that spot on the map. 2. Click the Star icon to save it as a favorite. 3. Click the title to change the name (e.g. Second Work ). 4. Now you be able to search for it via its nickname (i.e. Navigate to Second Work ).

2019-11-14 19:52:33

“Navigate to Mom s” “Navigate to poker” Been using these for almost a year to go see my parents and my weekly poker game.

2019-11-14 21:01:20

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

I love seeing other Tesla drivers on the road because our community has grown to a size where it s not as rare to see another Tesla but still a nice surprise

Before when there were only Model S and X cars on the road seeing a Model X or a fellow Model S driver would only happen once a week. We always flash our lights at each other to say hi but it would barely happen. Now that so many more Teslas are on the road it s so fun to say hi to everyone we see. It s like driving a Mercedes back in the day where it s a nice community that s still pretty small and unique

2019-08-11 22:47:23

I always wave at other Tesla drivers on the road :)

2019-08-12 00:01:04

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Weekly Investing Thread

This will post every Monday (EST) at 6AM. Use this thread to comment your own investor links during the week. This thread is specifically intended for TSLA related posts. This thread is meant only for casual discussion regarding TSLA stock. Only generic Investing-related topics will be allowed as posts. Detailed commentary should be discussed here. This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance.

2017-08-14 11:14:48

Would love to see $370 again this week.

2017-08-14 11:34:58

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Ordering a Model 3 under unusual circumstances

Hi everyone We are currently living in the UK but moving to Texas near the end of October. We have decided we want to get a Model 3. Ideally we d like to be able to pick it up at the service center nearest us the day after we arrive. So my questions are: 1. does anyone have experience ordering a model 3 while not physically in the US? I am a US citizen and have US bank accounts and can easily get my insurance sorted out but I m not sure what problems we might run into? My family lives in the area so I can use their address as it is where I have kept my address. 2. What are the wait times like at the moment? I tried calling Tesla and tried to explain the situation to the guy I spoke with. He couldn t tell me with any certainty what could be done if we wanted to order the car several weeks in advance. I know the Tesla website says estimated 2-3 weeks...does this tend to be accurate and can our advisor push the delivery date for us if we did order it more than 3 weeks in advance? Thanks in advance for any advice suggestions etc!

2019-08-28 12:08:30

Trying to time the delivery of the car to a specific day is a fool s errand that is almost certain to cause frustration. The website estimate is only accurate by accident. Tesla doesn t make your car to order. They make batches of cars and then match your config to the next car that matches (or one that happened to just get made before you ordered but hadn t gotten matched yet). So the amount of time it takes is how long between you ordering and them making a car with your specific config. So if I were you I would plan to rent a car for the interim.

2019-08-28 13:38:50

Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences

Typical great experience at LI Syosset service center

Hi all Just wanted to make a quick post to add to the long list of positive experiences around here. I booked my M3D for a tire swap online (I want winter tires) noting that I d need the Service Center to provide a new set of wheels and mount tires that I d provide (Michelin X-ice3). Got there 3 minutes early and explained that I d also appreciate it if they could use 2 of my current rims on the new winter tires due to some scratches I d rather have on my winter set. No problem. They said it d be about an hour and an hour later they d mounted my new tires as requested and even bagged my all seasons (it was raining out and they were wet) and put them in the trunk. This is not my first great experience with the LI Syosset SC. They re good folks and I m happy that they re the ones working on my car when I need it

2018-12-30 15:55:45

Weird I asked them to swap my tires and they said no cause x-ice is not offered by tesla.

2018-12-31 00:17:57

Model Y Wheel Options

Model X owners with the white interior how s it holding up?

Any Model X owners with the white interior hanging out in here? How s it holding up to the dirt? I know Elon mentioned it was the best interior (https: twitter.com elonmusk status 703650455407079424?ref_src=twsrc^tfw) and it performed better than other colors in stain tests (https: twitter.com elonmusk status 703692375055413248?ref_src=twsrc^tfw) but how are we doing in real life? After seeing a Model X in multicoat red with white interior in one of u bjornnyland s videos (https: www.youtube.com watch?v=1UUCXK6vbGE) I was convinced that was the combination I want to order on my Model 3. But if the dirt is winning the battle I don t want dingy seats an a car I plan on having for a long time to come. EDIT - Added the link to the video I referred to. EDIT 2 - Readability correction.

2016-04-27 19:20:23

They ve stayed clean. Any smudges wipe right off. However there is already a tiny shred in the middle seat of the middle row like something got snagged in one of the perforated holes and ripped it. I vaguely recall that Tesla has already acknowledged that issue and is supposed to offer a fix. I ve had my car 6 weeks and it s a working car—six kids headed to and from soccer practice four days a week the other three days I m hauling my two kids around.

2016-04-27 21:46:08

Model 3 Seat Impressions

Sirius XM in Tesla - Is it really this bad?

[Is this Sirius XM in Tesla?](http: imgur.com 5ZMuGup) Just picked up my new Model S 90D last week. Yesterday I moved my Sirius XM subscription from my old car to the Tesla. I know there s a lot of naysayers about XM in a Tesla - Slacker Radio TuneIn audio quality...all that. I get it. But I had time left on my subscription so I moved it over. I m shocked at how terrible the XM execution is on the Tesla. Stations need to be picked manually by scrolling through &lt and &gt arrows. No icons. No genres or categorizations. It s like selecting an AM radio station from a clock radio. You can identify favorites (like I did in the attached image) but it s clunky at best. Am I doing something wrong? Or is the implementation of satellite radio really this bad?

2017-06-21 11:44:19

Basically yes. I went through the hassle of finding and favoriting my favorite XM stations and I just use that to switch through what I like. It works just fine but the channel browsing is very meh.

2017-06-21 14:28:49

Spotify Integration Analysis

UK Model 3 Reservation Details

My product specialist from Knutsford has just told me. You can come in to store between 7pm and 11pm on the 31st March to put a deposit down or wait until the 1st April online. And: It is going to be £1000.

2016-03-19 14:52:52

£1000? I thought it was $1000 in the US shouldn t that be closer to £700? Just sounds too well rounded to me.

2016-03-19 15:20:11

Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences

Officially obsessed with Tesla now. Recommended Docs vids articles blogs sites books etc.

TL DR version: recommendations for articles videos posts about Tesla especially anything Model 3 related that someone late to the Tesla party should check out. So after telling myself for months that my next car will be a Tesla I finally went ahead took the Model 3 reservation plunge on Dec 30 2016. My lucky favorite number has been #3 since as far back as I can remember. No real reason why I just like it. When I was finally at a point in my life that I could finance a car and afford something I actually want and not just the cheapest A to B vehicle I could get I bought financed a 2004 Mazda 3 and after 6 years with that I upgraded to a 2011 BMW Series 3 (328i) and for my lucky third #3 car it will be the amazing Tesla Model 3. A sign? Omen? I dunno but I am SO STOKED FOR THIS AMAZING UNICORN MACHINE. More so than anything else out there. There was literally no under-$50k car out there that excited or interested me. And now that the Model 3 is coming everything out there seems so antiquated and more of the same boring garbage. Tesla has ruined cars for me. At least cars that aren t a Tesla. Since I placed my reservation I ve been devouring everything Tesla I can find. Subscribed to 3 podcasts (RTL The Tesla Show and Talking Tesla) daily checks on Teslarati.com Tesla Motors forum tesla.com forum read the [Wait But Why](http: waitbutwhy.com 2015 06 how-tesla-will-change-your-life.html) article on Elon (amazing btw learned SO much about SO many things) and have pre-ordered the paperback version of Ashlee Vance s bio of Elon. I even started scanning the Tesla subreddit daily. I ve been on Reddit for awhile now but never spent much time on it. Now I pretty much use it just for r teslamotors. So I know I m a little late to the Tesla party. Been following Elon Tesla SpaceX news casually for a while now but it wasn t until the Model 3 and its attainable $35k price point that I really began looking at a Tesla EV as a real possibility. So to all you Tesla gurus fanboys owners and dreamers what other video documentary article website forum blog posts do you recommend I check out and whet my whistle with? The Wait But Why article is something I m so glad i found after someone mentioned it in passing in a recent forum post. Spent two days getting through the whole thing lol. Loved every second of it. My appetite for all things Tesla is voracious. Feed me Seymour!

2017-01-15 23:23:31

[electrek.co](https: electrek.co )

2017-01-16 00:39:21

Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences

Autopilot Mechanics Question

I m absolutely novice on this kind of technology but I m curious as to the mechanics of Tesla s (or anybody s!) autopilot system. More specifically what kind of information does the system collect and how does it parse it? I remember Elon talking about ultrasonics . Is this a sort of system that detects the distance of a field of points in front of the car and parses out three dimensional objects? I would imagine detecting how far ahead of you the car is directly would be much easier and more reliable than figuring it out from an optical image.

2015-07-17 03:22:40

From what I know the autopilot system has a camera forward facing radar and surround ultrasonic sensors. The camera is used for detecting speed limit signs lanes and maybe cars? The radar is used for detecting cars for TACC and emergency braking. The ultrasonic sensors are used for objects that are closer to the car in situations like parking (kids animals poles cones).

2015-07-17 03:52:32

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

I received an email about my Solar Roof reservation

Here is the body of the email: Hello Thank you for supporting the world s transition to sustainable energy with your Solar Roof reservation. Since you placed your reservation we have successfully run a pilot program installing Solar Roof on homes representing varying degrees of roof type and complexity. We have also been rigorously lab testing our Solar Roof tiles to be sure that the material and installation will last the lifetime of your house and that you ll get a minimum of 30 years of solar generation from every tile. Over the past several months we ve been installing Textured Solar Roofs at customers homes across the country. The systems look beautiful take a closer look at the Textured tile [here](https: www.tesla.com support energy solar-roof learn solar-roof-tiles). Textured tiles are the first tile type to enter production with the other tile options still in development. If you are looking to install Solar Roof sooner than your current tile selection we are happy to share more details with you on the Textured Solar Roof. Please reply to this email with preferred times for us to contact you in the coming weeks: [Monday through Friday](http: airmail.calendar 2019-04-08%2012:00:00%20PDT) [between 8:00AM – 5:00PM PST](http: airmail.calendar 2019-04-02%2008:00:00%20PDT). Regards &amp #x200B It included a couple images and this pdf document: [https: documents.ekmmetering.com Solar\_Roof\_Welcome\_Guide.pdf](https: documents.ekmmetering.com Solar_Roof_Welcome_Guide.pdf) Hopefully this is an indication that installations are ramping. I m in central California. https: i.redd.it zs1u3dd1awp21.png https: i.redd.it 2sbmrcd1awp21.jpg

2019-04-02 18:34:51

Those look great good for Tesla! Hope you get your roof soon!

2019-04-02 18:49:43

Issues with Tesla Energy Installation

[Discussion] Tesla holding a monopoly position on fast charging Model 3?

Bear with me on this train of thought: * Model 3 owners (and now some Model S and X) owners no longer get free Supercharging * Only Tesla provides Supercharging services * Tesla Model S X have a CHAdeMO adapter limited to 50kW charging (less in practise) * The CHAdeMO adapter does not work with Model 3 * There is no CCS adapter * Tesla fully controls the price of Supercharging This creates a situation where if you own a Tesla car and you want to charge faster than 50kW (for Model S and X) or 7kW (for Model 3 with J1772 adapter) then your only possible charging provider is Tesla. Do you consider that a problem? If it is not a problem right now is that a potential problem for the future (say if Elon sells Tesla to focus on Mars colony full time)? How this would be best solved? Can Tesla owners in some way influence Tesla to solve it? Can anyone besides Tesla solve this?

2018-03-17 19:57:05

Yes they definitely need to release support for CHAdeMO soon. I _really_ hope they re working on a CCS adapter too (even if it is limited to 50 kW). But IIRC I believe the spec does not allows for adapters (whatever that means in practice).

2018-03-17 20:05:05

Tesla Supercharger Road Trips

Slacker radio loading error

This past weekend slacker radio started having issues where it s get load errors and no stations from slacker would play. At times I ll try again later and it will work. Anyone have similar issue and know of a fix?

2017-08-28 20:54:56

I went in on Saturday to talk to a few guys at the servicer center. They said that an engineering ticket is in at HQ. They had no ETA on when it will be fixed but we will receive an OTA to fix the problem. I think Tesla should make some kind of message board to tell the owners if something is broken or just for updates on things like this. Where I work we in IT use [Netsupport Notify](http: www.netsupportnotify.com ) Restarting the car will not fix it. The only thing you can do is wait it out. Welcome to the future...

2017-08-28 21:15:05

Spotify Integration Analysis

405 LA OC to Valley and back

I do this drive 3-4 times a week. My AP2 model S still gives a rude awakening once in a while on curves. I swear I was going to hit the divider or cross over into the other lane. Anyone else drive with AP2 on this road? It s in the latest firmware.

2017-04-13 04:05:07

a lot of the southern 405 has no shoulder in the hov lane. i would not suggest any AP version in that situation.

2017-04-13 05:33:40

Tesla Autopilot Performance

[Discussion] Does Model 3 USB audio have gapless playback? Any plans to come to S X?

This may seem like a minor complaint but I listen to music via USB in my MS. The lack of gapless playback is my biggest pet peeve. Is this still a thing in the Model 3? I keep hoping it gets added in a future update.

2018-05-30 22:14:23

No it doesn t. It also randomly skips and restarts. And doesn t remember that it should be selected (reverts back to phone every time). And has no shuffle option. Not quite ready for prime time in other words.

2018-05-30 22:35:17

Tesla sound system comparisons

Model S and X 100 kWh price increase on April 16th

There will be a slight price increase on the 100 kWh version of Model S and X. This increase will come on April 16th.

2017-04-09 10:10:15

Confirmed by a Tesla Employee

2017-04-09 10:10:25

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Battery Cost vs Energy Density

I was just wondering that the improvement in battery technology that Musk and Straubel are talking about is it just a reduction in cost due to economies of scale or is there increase in energy density. If both or either can somebody link some figures. Thanks.

2014-09-05 11:50:24

Musk said that they don t need a new discovery in battery tech to achieve a 30% cost decrease. So yes economy of scale and a more efficient managing of the supply chain.

2014-09-05 12:01:04

Tesla Battery Production Optimization

External components of A C really really loud after recent update in Model 3. Seems to be running full battery cooling system instead of just the cabin A C.

I noticed the air conditioner in my Model 3 is very very loud and cycles between loud and slightly less loud about every 10 seconds after my most recent update. Not the air conditioning inside the car mind you but the air conditioning system that s outside of the car by the radiator. All of last year when I used the A C during the summer I never noticed this. It s as if I m Supercharging my car with hot batteries the full battery cooling system seems to be running instead of just the air conditioning. Anyone else?

2019-04-09 21:28:21

Weirdly enough I was just telling my son the car was louder. He thought I was crazy though.

2019-04-09 21:35:11

Tesla Noise Concerns

NEMA 14-60 coming?

It s probably not a coincidence that Teslas can now charge at 48A when it used to be 40A. The UMC can only support 40A is it reasonable to think the UMC could see an update like the HPWC?

2016-04-27 20:19:48

That would be nice but I am not sure that it would be very useful. Those outlets are relatively rare whereas most RV campgrounds have 14-50 outlets. It would also require heavier wire adding extra expense to the mobile connector without much benefit most of the time.

2016-04-27 21:06:19

Tesla Supercharger Road Trips

Any word on the Model S getting upgraded processors?

It s widely speculated that the X center console will be much faster has there been any mention of the S getting upgraded processors so that the UI browsing isn t as sluggish? Huge pet peeve of mine.

2015-09-07 23:45:04

The X will have to have something new. However the question is will it be something compatible from the nVidia Tegra line so as to not split the software development OR will they go with something more mainstream like a Snapdragon 801 805 810 etc. My guess is that they are happy with the nVidia relationship and will continue on that track. I think Intel and AMD are out. Even though die sizes are always dropping their heat TDP is still too high and needs active cooling all the time. The Tegra3 in the S only occasionally needs the fan to whir up to the point you can hear it. While it would be nice to have something upgrade-able I don t think we will see anything that modular in the cars. They have a set functions list that they know the car needs to perform and a fairly good idea what they will need in the future. So processing needs will never out-pace the life-cycle of the vehicle itself. All that being said the S is atrocious when it comes to the current responsiveness of the touch screen so something will have to be done. But we all know that already.

2015-09-08 00:38:24

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Trading in two cars towards a new Tesla.

I am enviously waiting my invite to configure and based on driving habits the wife and I only need one car (She works from home and I work 10 miles from home). Does anyone have experience with this? Does Tesla even allow it?

2018-05-12 21:16:10

Tesla will trade two cars learned this when I was considering which one of two to trade and they combined. However as others have noted their bids tend to be on the low side.

2018-05-12 21:32:54

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Car Wash Mode No Longer Requires to be in Park to Activate

Discovered this when going through today - assuming it was added during the last update

2022-04-14 20:27:15

Is it just me or is putting the car in neutral more difficult than is needs to be?

2022-04-15 01:33:05

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

After market tow hitch feasibility?

Sorry - may be a dumb question but I have the model y on order and considering adding the tow hitch. If I decide not to are there options to have this added down the road? Not sure if there s tesla-specific wiring that has to be done in making the car or if that all can be done by a third party down the road. Thanks!

2020-04-12 18:43:55

EcoHitch (and others) have aftermarket options for S &amp 3 so I m assuming Y will come out soon. Edit apparently Tesla can add the tow hitch after delivery see below

2020-04-12 18:51:48

Hitch Bike Rack Review

How long did it take to learn to trust autopilot?

Just got my model y today. Turned on autopilot on the way home.. found myself white knuckling and hovering my foot over the brake. How long does it take to finally relax?

2021-09-26 00:44:35

After about a day. After 2 years I still treat it like a student driver. I m still the driver.

2021-09-26 02:02:04

Tesla Autopilot Performance