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FSD in the UK post-BREXIT

Hi folks. New Tesla owner here in the UK - hope you ve all had a great holiday so far! Wondering if someone smarter than I knows if there is likely to be a quick-ish change to the legislation regulation around FSD Autopilot Summon after Jan 1st. Currently we are bound by the UNECE regulations but looking up Google it looks like there may be some changes. Links here for anyone that can understand the jargon lingo. [https: www.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk transitionperiod ](https: www.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk transitionperiod ) 2nd link is a no-deal scenario. Can t find an updated version: [https: www.gov.uk guidance vehicle-type-approval-if-theres-no-brexit-deal](https: www.gov.uk guidance vehicle-type-approval-if-theres-no-brexit-deal) This is more for general discussion something to get excited about in 2021 :). TIA for anyone giving some insight.

2020-12-29 14:07:27

It s UNECE regulations holding up FSD in the UK not EU laws. And if anything at the moment we ve adopted the same EU laws on self-driving into our own. Our best hope at the moment is the UK s call to action on ALKS systems [https: www.gov.uk government news uk-government-announces-automated-lane-keeping-system-call-for-evidence](https: www.gov.uk government news uk-government-announces-automated-lane-keeping-system-call-for-evidence) Which if approved will allow full Level 3 4 driving on the UK Motorway Network with no promoting for hands to remain on the wheel. It would most likely be geo-fenced so Tesla drivers (or cars which the similar systems) could legally be engaged on the motorway allowing driving without any interaction. There s a few articles on the topics. Here s one against mind: [https: www.autocar.co.uk car-news industry automated-lane-keeping-uk-2021-will-put-lives-risk](https: www.autocar.co.uk car-news industry automated-lane-keeping-uk-2021-will-put-lives-risk)

2020-12-29 17:55:03

Tesla Autopilot Performance

Visiting Seattle Which Tesla store to visit?

I ll be making the trip from Spokane over Labor Day weekend and plan to make my first visit to a Tesla store -- I m very excited. I see there are three stores all in fairly close proximity. Are any of these three stores more convenient to visit than others? Or do you recommend any certain store more because of _____? https: www.tesla.com findus# bounds 47.734145 -122.2244331 47.4919119 -122.45969589999999?search=store &amp name=Seattle %20wa

2017-08-13 18:35:44

Convenience: Bellevue Square Tesla Experience: South Lake Union. The Bellevue Square mall location is a small static showroom. Its literally on the mezzanine floor of the shopping mall next to stores that sell shoes watches and yoga pants. Last time I was in the mall they had a Model S chassis glider and a Model X vehicle inside. There are a handful of Tesla-reserved parking spots in the mall garage which they use to conduct test-drives. I know and like the South Lake Union shop best. It s on the edge of the Amazon tech zone where parking is a hard to find. With the Bumbershoot festival going on at Seattle Center during Labor Day weekend that end of the city will be crowded so you might want to combine festival activities with a walk to the Tesla store. From the Space Needle to the Tesla store is about a kilometer on foot. The South Lake Union showroom generally holds at least three vehicles plus a chassis glider and there are usually customer deliveries or service traffic going on in the garage bay. It s where I went to test-drive a Model S and to reserve my Model 3. Don t be mis-led by Google into trying to visit the Tesla repair and service center near the stadiums south of downtown. The barbed-wire fence isn t for decoration. The Bellevue store on 20th Ave is new and I ve never been there so I can t give advice on it. My understanding is that it was built to service the Tesla fleet on the Eastside so they may not duplicate the slick and stylish showroom feel of South Lake Union.

2017-08-13 20:42:23

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

MS Inventory starts under $50 000 and includes the same 4-year 50 000 miles warranty as if you ordered a new Model S.

Just got this e-mail from Tesla. I was specially happy to see this part here: Interested in a Certified Pre-Owned Tesla? With the Tesla Pre-Owned program you now have more options to get a Model S. Inventory starts under $50 000 and includes the same 4-year 50 000 miles warranty as if you ordered a new Model S. However upon checking I only saw one MS at 48k :(. There is also a new limited time lease: For a limited time drive a Model S for as little as $698 per month Tesla has a variety of attractive financing options available including a limited-time lease program on a Model S that starts at just $698 per month. After fuel savings this is the equivalent of only $531 per month. If tesla is trying to get some trade ins to fill in the low end less than 50k MS CPO inventory it makes me happy. Did anyone else get the e-mail?

2016-01-21 22:53:47

I got the email. Tesla released a bunch of S60s towards the end of 2015 and there has been a few under 50k. However they tend to go pretty quickly. I see a lot of 50ks. If you haven t seen this site they have a good listing of cpo teslas. http: ev-cpo.com Also keep in mind that with the models in the 50k range you probably won t get autopilot if it s a deal breaker. A lot of them are older S60s without the needed hardware.

2016-01-21 22:58:17

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Model 3 Screen InOp and Resets don t work

I m curious if anyone has had this many issues with less than 1 800 miles on their Tesla On Thursday my screen turned off while driving and then about 5 mins later turned back on. It said the left front camera was blocked a few times but given the dust in the area I figured it had collected on the lense. On Friday night the screen turned off twice within an hour but seemed fine once I did a Hard Restart in a parking lot. This morning I was headed to get some coffee and the screen wouldn t turn on even after trying for an hour+. I knew I could drive and the lights and signals worked so if I HAVE to drive anywhere I can use Waze for speed indication since the Service Center is closed until Monday so I decided I d take some advice and see if I could charge my car at a SuperCharger. It charges but I have ZERO visibility of the chargers status or any information from the Tesla App. I can unlock the doors and trunk but the frunk and glovebox are locked unless I truly need to get in for now.

2020-10-25 04:58:42

The next thing you do if a reboot doesn t work is to unplug the USB stick drive in the console and restart without it. If it works then reformat the drive and reinsert it.

2020-10-25 05:07:25

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic

Two-way radios and other accessories

Here s a series of questions from a guy who s decided his next car will be a Tesla of some model (though having just purchased (financed) a new vehicle a couple of years ago next car will be several years down the road). I m a firefighter and avid radio (amateur radio scanner radio) enthusiast. My vehicle would need at least one radio antenna and radio mounted in the vehicle. Anyone done any radio installs on these vehicles? Where s a good place for an antenna - the typical fender-mount or someplace else? How did you draw power for the radio accessories - are there 12V sockets and or places to tap either always-on or switched 12V sources? Do radio receivers like ham amateur radios and or scanners get any (significant) RF interference from the more exotic elements of this car such as the electric drive motors the sensors that detect other vehicles objects etc? Conversely does transmitting on a two-way radio in or in proximity to the car cause any issues with the car s computers sensors? Dash cams would be another item in the same category as far as power sources go. I did see some search results on dash cams (came up empty on radio gear though) and saw at least one where somebody wired their camera to a hot line off the OBDII port perhaps. Would a hot always-on 12V power source in the car draw the 12V battery down to zero? If there was power in the HV battery would it keep the 12V replenished longer than in a typical ICE vehicle? And does the 12V battery recharge when the vehicle is plugged in to charge the HV battery?

2016-01-11 15:22:25

Note that magnetic mounts won t work on the Model S because of the aluminum bodywork. If you end up getting a Model 3 when the time comes you may be in luck there as it s supposedly going to be steel. I m sure there are many other options in any case. The 12V battery is automatically recharged from the traction battery when it gets low even if the car is off. It s not possible to drain the 12V battery unless you exceed the charger s capacity (500W or so) or the 12V battery goes bad. If you drain a lot of power from it then you ll accelerate its demise due to increased charge discharge activity but a low amount of draw shouldn t make much difference. I don t know about the rest I m afraid.

2016-01-11 16:04:23

Issues with Sentry Mode

Does anyone actually use Autopark?

I ve had my Model 3 just a few weeks now and have put about 1000km on it. Really enjoying it and having a blast with Autopilot. Autopark has never seemed to volunteer it s services though but yesterday I was excited to see that icon pop up for the first time. I was just lining up to back into a parking stall and it offered to finish for me. Great! I give it permission and it moves forward backward forward and back once again. I hear my tire rubbing on the curb and hit the brake. Pull out and finish parking myself. Autopark aborted it says. My driver side rear rim doesn t look too good anymore. To explain there was a nice clean curb on the driver side and rear of the parking stall. A freshly painted line marked the passenger side of the stall. Another car was parked on that side which I was keeping a close eye on. Model 3 missed the car but hit the curb. Just wondering if Autopark is better than this for others or if I was simply lucky in getting the one time it neglected to notice the curb and dragged right along it. I wonder if there s any sense in calling Tesla about this but I m not hopeful they d be able to willing to do much. Caution: pics may cause small amounts of emotional distress. https: imgur.com a zB1eQNr

2018-07-12 05:32:57

I used it today! And about 5 minutes in I remembered why I don t use it much. It s never hit anything it s just slow.

2018-07-12 05:47:22

Issues with Smart Summon

A (not so) Brief Report on My Experience Supercharging.....

I know for those on the west coast or other areas with a lot of available Superchargers this may not be groundbreaking. But I have used them only a few times and this was my first trip where I thought I MIGHT have some range anxiety. And I haven t seen many posts on this recently so here goes. I just returned from a quick trip from DFW area to Oklahoma City. I used the SC in Ardmore on the way up there and back. The conditions were as close to ideal as you could hope for. Temp in the 50 s-60 s dry roads minimal elevation change (about 800 feet difference over the course of 200 miles). From Ardmore to my destination was about 100 miles. So with a max charge I figured I had about 65 miles to spare if I had no charging options in the meantime. My hotel told me they had a place for EV s to charge but they were vague about it. I didn t ask them specifics. Just figured well I probably don t absolutely have to charge when I am there but if I can it would be a bonus . I charged to 100% in Ardmore on the way there. From Ardmore to OKC I kept the cruise control set to 65 MPH occasionally bumping it up to 70 MPH depending on the speed of traffic around me. There were a few occasions where I may have sped up to 75 MPH briefly but the vast majority of the trip I was in the 65-70 range. My goal was to try to get 1:1 ratio on the way up there (one mile driven for one mile rated range). I was able to accomplish that with ease. For almost the entire trip up there I was able to keep my Wh mile in the 300-310 range it even dipped below 300 a few times briefly. Interestingly enough the difference between driving 65 and 70 did NOT seem to affect my Wh mile very much. I had suspected it would but on this particular route with conditions as close to ideal as you could hope for there was negligible difference between 65 and 70 MPH. So I arrived in OKC with about 160 miles rated range. If I ever had any range anxiety it was minimal but I did breathe a bit of a sigh of relief when I got there I suppose---because I knew we wouldn t be driving much while we were there and with 160 miles rated range to drive 100 miles back to Ardmore I had tons of wiggle room and could drive however I wanted on the way back. So I arrive to the hotel and their charger is a standard wall outlet. I was expecting some kind of J-1772 set up. But I didn t ask specifics when I called. It really didn t matter though given how much range I had when I arrived there. I decided to plug in anyway just because it was available at 4 miles charge hour I got about 60 miles additional rated range by the time I left. Driving home I had zero concerns. 200 miles range to drive 100 and then I would use the SC long enough to provide some wiggle room. There weren t a lot of vehicles on the road and those who were well they were moving along pretty fast. So 80-85 MPH in stretches was my speed. My Wh mile stayed in the 360-370 range for most of the return trip which worked out to about 1.2-1.3 rated range: 1 mile driven. A couple of other interesting things: 1) I had people pull up to the SC station in an ICE on both ends of the trip just to chat with me and learn about the car. There are now three SC s in Oklahoma but probably not many people who live there and own one. It was truly a novelty to them and I enjoyed teaching them a bit about the car as I always do when someone is unfamiliar. 2) Same thing with the valet at my hotel. He had never seen one. I showed him how it plugs in in case he has customers in the future who drive one. 3) There was one Tesla owner at the SC during my trip and he was in a P85D. We chatted for a bit and when I was leaving he told me he could not disconnect the SC from his car. I have read about this happening in a few isolated instances in other forums. I am not sure if the issue is with the car or the SC but I suspect it is the car because one forum discussion an owner was having the same issue with his home charger. This guy was a very knowledgeable owner had tried everything imaginable including rebooting the vehicle but it would not disconnect. I felt bad for him. Tesla was sending someone out there but he was in for a bit of a wait. I think this is an exceedingly rare occurrence. All in all a good trip.

2015-03-22 20:16:00

Good report and awesome that you were able to get 1:1 on the rated range. Now that it s warming up around here I am hoping I get something close to that! A few comments: I use PlugShare for finding hotel charging. If a hotel doesn t show up there I wouldn t expect much. I couldn t disconnect my P85D at the Hooksett Northbound SC. Thought I tried everything... wife then asks if I tried holding down the button on the SC cable which I hadn t which unlocked the cable. At all other chargers I just had to push the button and wait for the light to change from green to white. Never had to hold it down. I wonder if that might have worked for the poor guy you met.

2015-03-22 20:33:04

Tesla Supercharger Road Trips

Question about filing the $7500 EV Tax Credit

As I start to prepare some tax docs I realized I m not sure how the nonrefundable $7500 federal EV tax credit works. From what I understand the $7500 only covers tax liability. My question is: if I m withholding some of my pay (W4) to cover my taxes the EV tax credit will allow my to receive that as a refund correct? I m having trouble finding a definitive answer on how this works.

2016-11-09 22:41:22

The non-refundable aspect of it means that if the tax credit would reduce your tax liability below 0 then you do not get refunded that amount. Example: $35k income $5k tax liability before credit $4500 withholdings You would have -$2500 tax liability after the credit. You would get your $4500 withholdings back along with $500 from the tax credit but not that $2500 negative liability.

2016-11-09 23:02:59

EV Tax Credit Information

Will Tesla solve vision (in the general sense) first? (Dojo video NN == GPT3 for real-time vision)

I think once the video-based FSD neural net is fully functional it could very easily transfer to any kind of vision task involving real time object detection i.e. home robots. In this sense Tesla might be the best positioned out of any of the tech giants to make robots actually practical. If they have some kind of robots running around in homes and detecting humans and such.. that data could feed back into the FSD net to improve human and other detection better and so on. In essence Tesla might very well be the first company that solves real world vision in a true sense i.e. completely replicating the functionality of the human visual cortex. What do you think?

2021-03-20 03:11:41

This sub is becoming indistinguishable from some kind of sci-fi creative writing workshop.

2021-03-20 05:30:35

Miscellaneous Tesla Topic