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2015-04-22-#ubuntu-irc

[14:35] <AlanBell> popey: you want to do stuff with udsbotu? [14:35] <popey> was just talking about it with DJones [14:36] <popey> is that what it is? [14:36] <AlanBell> yeah, it is a tsimpson bot [14:36] <genii> Mystery solved ;) [14:36] <popey> what do we need to do to "make it happen"? [14:36] <AlanBell> just looking at the config file :0 [14:36] <popey> heh [14:37] <AlanBell> apparently I have admin [14:37] <popey> super stuff. [14:44] <AlanBell> all I need now is my password [14:50] <AlanBell> hello udsbotu :) [14:50] <AlanBell> popey: my wish is it's command [14:50] <popey> \o/ [14:51] <popey> AlanBell: I can clarify the list of channels it needs to be in a littler later today. Thanks. [14:52] <AlanBell> udsbotu: list UdsCal [14:52] <udsbotu> now, schedule, showevents, showtopic, time, and topic [15:32] <popey> mhall119: ^ see AlanBell :) [15:32] <popey> AlanBell: mhall119 says we have an API to make this all easier [15:48] <mhall119> I do [15:48] <mhall119> AlanBell: http://summit.ubuntu.com/api/room/?summit__name=uos-1505 [16:21] <AlanBell> udsbotu: channels [16:21] <udsbotu> Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel. [16:25] <AlanBell> mhall119: all done [16:29] <mhall119> AlanBell: thanks!

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.003901

2015-04-22-#maas

[00:16] <mup> Bug #1446525 was opened: Curt tries to umount /tmp filesystem while commands are running. <curtin:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446525> [00:58] <mup> Bug #1446914 was opened: 2015-04-22 00:36:04 [-] Error on request (25) node.check_power: <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446914> [00:58] <mup> Bug #1446915 was opened: 2015-04-22 00:37:05 [root] ERROR: <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446915> [00:58] <mup> Bug #1446916 was opened: MAAS should provide access to every installation log recorded <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446916> [05:09] <thetrav> does MaaS use cloud_init to configure its nodes, and if it does, is there an API exposed that I can use to manipulate the cloud-config file delivered to nodes? [08:41] <mup> Bug #1447009 was opened: New web UI doesn't refresh correctly <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447009> [14:01] <dimitern> rvba, hey, I've just noticed there's no hangout link for the deep dive call [14:01] <rvba> dimitern: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/netwk [14:51] <mup> Bug #1443627 changed: 1.8beta2: MAAS fails to release nodes <oil> <MAAS:Fix Committed by rbanffy> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443627> [14:51] <mup> Bug #1446914 changed: 2015-04-22 00:36:04 [-] Error on request (25) node.check_power: <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446914> [14:51] <mup> Bug #1446915 changed: 2015-04-22 00:37:05 [root] ERROR: <oil> <MAAS:New for rbanffy> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446915> [14:51] <mup> Bug #1447208 was opened: deferToThread should not wait for a thread in the same threadpool <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447208> [15:00] <mup> Bug #1443627 was opened: 1.8beta2: MAAS fails to release nodes <oil> <MAAS:Fix Committed by rbanffy> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443627> [15:00] <mup> Bug #1446914 was opened: 2015-04-22 00:36:04 [-] Error on request (25) node.check_power: <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446914> [15:00] <mup> Bug #1446915 was opened: 2015-04-22 00:37:05 [root] ERROR: <oil> <MAAS:New for rbanffy> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446915> [15:00] <mup> Bug #1447208 changed: deferToThread should not wait for a thread in the same threadpool <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447208> [15:09] <mup> Bug #1443627 changed: 1.8beta2: MAAS fails to release nodes <oil> <MAAS:Fix Committed by rbanffy> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443627> [15:09] <mup> Bug #1444012 changed: 1.8beta2: settings page rendering is all messed up <oil> <MAAS:Confirmed for ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444012> [15:09] <mup> Bug #1446914 changed: 2015-04-22 00:36:04 [-] Error on request (25) node.check_power: <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446914> [15:09] <mup> Bug #1446915 changed: 2015-04-22 00:37:05 [root] ERROR: <oil> <MAAS:New for rbanffy> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446915> [15:09] <mup> Bug #1447208 was opened: deferToThread should not wait for a thread in the same threadpool <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447208> [15:42] <mup> Bug #1447230 was opened: 1.8b3 MAAS favicon incorrect colour <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447230> [17:33] <mup> Bug #1447262 was opened: 1.8b3 Weird timestamp on images page <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447262> [19:46] <mup> Bug #1447319 was opened: 1.8b3 incorrect styling for selected navigation <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447319> [19:46] <mup> Bug #1447320 was opened: 1.8b3 incorrect styling for selected tab <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447320> [19:58] <mup> Bug #1447319 changed: 1.8b3 incorrect styling for selected navigation <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447319> [19:58] <mup> Bug #1447320 changed: 1.8b3 incorrect styling for selected tab <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447320> [20:04] <mup> Bug #1447319 was opened: 1.8b3 incorrect styling for selected navigation <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447319> [20:04] <mup> Bug #1447320 was opened: 1.8b3 incorrect styling for selected tab <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447320>

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.008343

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-fi

[00:12] <Iltsu> hamachi vois toimii [03:21] <puhuri> jos ulkopuolella on joku kiinteällä osoittella oleva kone, niin tekee ssh-avainautentikaation ja ssh-forwadoinnilla [03:23] <puhuri> while sleep 60; do ssh -R 10222:localhost:22 -i .ssh/id-tunneli ulkokone; done [03:24] <puhuri> ja ulkokoneessa aitten ssh -p 10222 localhoat [06:28] <pesasa> Tietääkö joku, onko tossa joku suurempi filosofia takana, miksi Unityssa ohjelmien valikkorivi näytetään _vain_ kun hiiri on yläpalkin päällä? [06:29] <pesasa> On nimittäin monelle uudelle Ubuntu-käyttäjällä valtava kynnys löytää tuo valikko. [06:29] <pesasa> Ja tietenkin suurennetun ikkunan lopetusruksi sun muut nappulat samassa paikassa piilossa. [06:34] <Echramath> Onko tuo Macissä noin? [06:35] <elias_a> Miten niin Macissa? [06:35] <ansa> ei, mäkeissä on aina status-rivi ylhäällä, missä näkyy wifi / akku / yms. [06:36] <elias_a> Sama rautahan niissä on. [06:36] <pesasa> Ei ole. Macissa on menu kyllä ylhäällä, mutta aina näkyvissä. [06:36] <elias_a> pesasa: Mun mielestä se joskus meni jotenkin hassusti piiloon mutta nyt ei enää. [06:36] <pesasa> Bugiraportti asiasta vuodelta 2011. https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/732653 [06:36] <lubotu3`> Ubuntu bug 732653 in unity (Ubuntu) "Menus are hidden by default" [Medium,Triaged] [06:37] <pesasa> "Marked as invalid as this change request contradicts the design, see http://docs.google.com/View?id=dfkkjjcj_1776g5ztgbc3 " [07:06] <Iltsu> puhuri, joo, toi ois kyl hyvä, mutta jos yhteys katkee ni toi ei nouse itestää ylös [08:10] <Mikaela> Facebookissa (kommentti) kysellään Ubuntu Phonen Spotifyä ja Here Mapsia (ovatko ne siis olemassa?) https://www.facebook.com/ubuntusuomi/posts/10152784157191088 [09:07] <puhuri> Iltsu: jos määrittää keep-alive viestin niin sitten huomaa, jos yhteys menee alas: -o ServerAliveInterval=60 esim. [09:10] <ansa> autossh tekee pitää tuon ssh-yhteyden hengissä nätisti [09:13] <Iltsu> jees, viritän tommosen [09:13] <Iltsu> pelottaa mitä tosta tulee :D [09:14] <Iltsu> eilen se kone jumittu boottiin prossujen tunnistamisen jälkee [09:21] <elias_a> Mikäs kernel-versio on 14.04 LTS-versiossa nykyään? [09:22] <jjo> 3.13 [09:24] <elias_a> jjo: Kiitos! [09:24] <jjo> jaa eikun väärinhän tuo meni [09:24] <jjo> 3.16 siellä on security-repossa [09:26] <jjo> tosin ei se ole asentunut minun koneelleni [12:17] <Mirv> hardware enablement stackit on opt-in [12:17] <Mirv> jos on asentanut alkuperäisen 14.04:n tai 14.04.1:n niin pysyy 3.13:ssa. 14.04.2:n käyttäjillä on 3.16 ja 14.04.3:n käyttäjillä 3.19 (julkaistaan elokuussa) [13:57] <elias_a> Mirv: Kiitos! [16:09] <Mikaela> valittiko joku jonkin aikaa sitten mustasta ruudusta? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes/ [16:09] <Mikaela> Ubuntu Desktop --> Unity --> Compiz 0.9.12 "Fixes for various problems that occur only with the nVidia proprietary driver (mostly blank or black windows) (thanks nVidia)." [16:09] <Mikaela> via #ubuntu-mate, joka tosin luultavasti ensisijaisesti viittasi "Full integrated support for the MATE desktop on a par with Gnome2 and Unity" [16:22] <jjo> gnome2? [16:23] <Mikaela> oho, tuo on kai jollakin käynyt kirjoitusvirhe [16:43] <Mikaela> 2015-04-22 19:41:13+0300 < flexiondotorg> Mikaela, I think whoever wrote the notes is confused :)

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.020310

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-unity

[09:02] <Saviq> mzanetti, I'm testing the silo for bug #1444949, why does the second touch even reach the app behind the launcher? it doesn't when you're not dragging? [09:02] <Saviq> s/for/wrt/ [09:02] <mzanetti> Saviq, yeah... we noticed that too... albert reported a bug for that too already [09:02] <mzanetti> not fixed yet [09:03] <Saviq> ok [09:03] <Saviq> it might even be a Qt issue, that touch-to-mouse conversion doesn't work when there's another touch in progress or something [09:53] <Saviq> pstolowski, tsdgeos, any idea where bug #1447056 happens? [09:56] <tsdgeos> Saviq: nope, i'd say scopes-shell since i don't think we have the hability to refresh a scope? unless it's the is the isActive property [09:59] <pstolowski> Saviq, tsdgeos most likely shell plugin, but i can't see why without further investigation. setActive seems innocent after a brief look [10:04] <tsdgeos> have i gone too far in the connect+lambda-ing = [10:04] <tsdgeos> ? [10:04] <tsdgeos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10865338/ [10:05] <tsdgeos> Saviq: mzanetti: ↑↑ [10:06] <tsdgeos> hmmm [10:07] <tsdgeos> actually i need to redo those [10:07] <tsdgeos> it's not guaranteed "this" will still be around when all that stuff finishes [10:08] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, yeah... careful with this [10:10] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yeah exactly, when lambdas bitten us was because they don't get disconnected [10:30] <Saviq> pstolowski, tsdgeos, FYI: bug #1447074 - dunno, maybe replace a string like CURRENT_QUERY in the canned url... [10:33] <pstolowski> Saviq, is this because there is a delay between actually invoking the search after last keystrokes, so you still see old results? [10:34] <Saviq> pstolowski, yeah [10:34] <Saviq> pstolowski, you see the old Store icon, you continue typing, and click the old store icon [10:35] <pstolowski> ack [10:35] <tsdgeos> Saviq: but that's a bit "wrong" [10:35] <Saviq> tsdgeos, what is? [10:35] <tsdgeos> what if the new query would make the icon store disappear [10:35] <tsdgeos> would you still pass the new query to the old item? [10:35] <tsdgeos> it works for the store, but what guarantees it'll work for something else? [10:36] <Saviq> tsdgeos, trueth [10:36] <pstolowski> yes.. and i think this is really an edge case [10:36] <Saviq> tsdgeos, but then, you're tapping on an item which is there before the new query completed [10:36] <MacSlow> Saviq, the current failures on jenkins for my shell-rotation branch (build-dependencies) are to be expected? [10:36] <Saviq> pstolowski, happens 100% times when I search for an app and go to the store then ;) [10:37] <tsdgeos> otoh i guess the "old" item can be smart enough and do nothing or present a nice "error" if the new query is unprocessable by it [10:37] <Saviq> MacSlow, where could it take the new require unity-api etc. from? [10:38] <pstolowski> Saviq, yeah, sure, i'm just saying it's not something that negatively impacts experience. and it reminds me of the idea we discussed long time ago about graying results out until search completes [10:39] <Saviq> pstolowski, well, it does negatively impact my user experience because I have to re-type the last two characters ;) [10:39] <Saviq> pstolowski, but agreed this is not a show-stopper [10:40] <MacSlow> Saviq, hm... [10:41] <Saviq> MacSlow, we've no support in CI for dependency chains [10:41] <Saviq> MacSlow, and there's new unity-api required in the branch prerequisite to yours [10:46] <Saviq> dednick, I have bug #1446846 to you since two of those are indicators, and you looked at the autopilot stability in any case [10:47] <mhall119> Saviq: wouldyou like me to create blueprints for these UOS sessions so that you can use them to track work items? [10:47] <mhall119> or just add them to summit.u.c [10:48] <Saviq> mhall119, I think pads will be enough [10:48] <mhall119> ok [10:54] <mhall119> Saviq: greyback can you register as attending the UOS so I can add you to these meetings? [10:54] <greyback> ok [10:54] <dandrader> Saviq, you there? [10:54] <Saviq> dandrader, yup [10:54] <Saviq> mhall119, doing [10:54] <dandrader> Saviq, When I press my kdb's left "windows/start" key, Qt gets Qt::Key_Meta [10:55] <dandrader> Saviq, not Super_L [10:55] <greyback> mhall119: done [10:55] <dednick> Saviq: ok [10:56] <dandrader> Saviq, btw, what key should generate Qt::Key_Super_L, if any? [10:56] <Saviq> mhall119, done [10:56] <mhall119> thanks guys [10:56] <Saviq> dandrader, windoze [10:57] <dandrader> Saviq, !? [10:57] <Saviq> dandrader, but on desktop it's taken over by unity [10:57] <Saviq> dandrader, the one with the windows logo [10:57] <Saviq> dandrader, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_key_%28keyboard_button%29 [10:57] <dandrader> Saviq, ah, so Unity7 maps Super_L to Meta? [10:57] <Saviq> does it? [10:58] <MacSlow> Saviq, how "libunity-api-dev (>= 7.97)" managed to get in there I don't know 7.96 works just fine. But that's just part of the problem. [10:58] <greyback> Saviq: dandrader: on my mac, the left apple key is Super_L [10:58] <Saviq> MacSlow, it should not work fine, there's new API in there [10:59] <Saviq> greyback, yeah, left Windows key is Super_L here, too [10:59] <greyback> dandrader: sure you're not doing some xmodmap key re-mapping? [11:00] <Saviq> MacSlow, https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity-api/shellRotation/+merge/242212 [11:00] <Saviq> MacSlow, `apt-cache policy libunity-api-dev` ? [11:00] <MacSlow> Saviq, *sigh* I've been using build.sh for too long [11:00] <Saviq> doesn't really matter [11:00] <Saviq> build.sh manages that [11:01] <Saviq> you likely have the correct version from the demo-shell ppa [11:01] <Saviq> mhall119, done [11:02] <MacSlow> Saviq, apt-cache reports none installed and install-candidate 7.97+bzr168+1~ubuntu15.04.1 ... I thought I installed everything via .debs on the device [11:03] <Saviq> MacSlow, that version is from demo-stuff PPA [11:03] <Saviq> MacSlow, but it's only a build-depend [11:04] <Saviq> so it won't be on your phone unless you build on it [11:04] <dandrader> greyback, Saviq, I have a stock unity7 [11:05] <Saviq> dandrader, why do you say "maps Super_L to Meta"? [11:06] <greyback> dandrader: as a test, run "xev | grep -A 2 KeyPress" in a terminal, then tap your Windows key and see what it prints [11:06] <MacSlow> Saviq, so what's the release-plan for libunity-api then... I don't think I can use the demo-stuff-ppa as a build-dependency :) [11:06] <greyback> dandrader: that will at least show it is X which is munging your keys, not unity [11:06] <Saviq> MacSlow, as every time in the past year, it will get released along unity8 in the same silo [11:07] <Saviq> along with qtmir, qtubuntu, ubuntu-keyboard, ubuntu-ui-toolkit, which are all interdependent [11:08] <MacSlow> Saviq, so the jenkins failure of my branch is something I've to accept for the time being?! [11:10] <Saviq> MacSlow, yes [11:13] <willcooke> You know how the Automatic mode for U8 is based on # of kbs, # of mice etc - and it's hard coded in the QML [11:13] <Saviq> ??? [11:13] <willcooke> :D [11:14] <Saviq> mzanetti, ↑ [11:14] <Saviq> yeah what about it? [11:14] <willcooke> What would be super nice is if those numbers are moved from hard coded values to settings [11:14] * mzanetti nods [11:14] <mzanetti> urgent? [11:14] <willcooke> Do I propose a new User Story and get it in your backlog [11:14] <willcooke> mzanetti, nahhh [11:14] <Saviq> willcooke, mzanetti, waiteth [11:15] <willcooke> just want to know how I go about formally requesting it [11:15] <dandrader> greyback, it does say Super_L [11:15] <Saviq> it's going to be the scenario selector's responsibility [11:15] <mzanetti> willcooke, Saviq: ack. will do that when I prepare that branch for landing into trunk [11:15] <mzanetti> Saviq, there's a card for that inputinfo stuff already [11:16] <Saviq> no point in making it a setting? [11:16] <Saviq> dandrader, I see you put the fake timers inside the test itself, I thought you'd put it in a shared bit in tests/utils for future use? [11:16] <willcooke> so, end goal here is that the new snappy desktop could be installed on that x86 tablet Ive got for demos and it would switch with no hacks required from me [11:16] <dandrader> Saviq, can be moved to separate files when needed [11:16] <Saviq> dandrader, k [11:16] <Saviq> unless we forget ;) [11:17] <willcooke> the issue is that, because it's stupid, we can't say kbds > 0 because in their wisdom, they made the power button and the vol up/down button an entire keyboard [11:17] <willcooke> ya rly [11:17] <Saviq> yeah, obviously our decision making will need to be smarter [11:18] <Saviq> (hint hint: it should be based off of mice, not keyboards) [11:18] <Saviq> (isn't it?) [11:19] <greyback> dandrader: hmm, then something higher than x remapping that key. not sure what that might be tbh [11:19] <willcooke> Saviq, good call [11:19] <willcooke> oh [11:19] <dandrader> greyback, Saviq, Qt itself is doing it: "Qt::Key_Meta -> On OS X, this corresponds to the Control keys. On Windows keyboards, this key is mapped to the Windows key." [11:19] <willcooke> I wonder... [11:19] <Saviq> greyback, didn't he just say it *does* say Super_L? [11:20] <Saviq> dandrader, well, yeah, Meta is a catch-all likely [11:20] <dandrader> Saviq, that was with "xev | grep -A 2 KeyPress" [11:20] <Saviq> dandrader, yes, and I get a Super_L there, too, where do you get Meta for it? [11:20] <greyback> Saviq: yeah, but he was reporting Qt said Meta key was pressed. [11:20] <Saviq> ah [11:21] <dandrader> Saviq, so Qt gets a native Super_L event and send a Qt::Key_Meta to the application [11:21] <Saviq> dandrader, interestingly I used Super_L when testing the new kernel with the new keycode, and that worked? [11:21] <greyback> and in the xcb plugin, XC_Super_L maps straight to Qt's SuperL [11:21] <Saviq> dandrader, does it send just the Meta or both Meta and Super_L? [11:22] <Saviq> because for sure Super_L worked for me on the phone at least [11:23] <dandrader> greyback, Saviq, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10865549/ [11:23] <dandrader> greyback, Saviq, that's ./plugins/platforms/xcb/qxcbkeyboard.cpp [11:23] <Saviq> ok so it's xcb [11:23] <greyback> dandrader: yuk [11:23] <dandrader> Saviq, no, it sends only Meta [11:23] <Saviq> yeah, yuk [11:24] <Saviq> but [11:24] <Saviq> what is rmod_masks.meta [11:24] <greyback> dandrader: sure that code path being hit? That's only if super used as meta modifier, which is language/settings specific [11:24] <Saviq> looks kinda configurable [11:25] <Saviq> yeah, /me remembers a whole set of options in the keyboard settings panel, not there now [11:26] <dandrader> greyback, no, but that's the only place I found where you have Meta and Super_L together [11:26] <Saviq> dandrader, yeah, that's a configurable bit, you (a user) can decide to have it mapped to Meta [11:26] <greyback> Saviq: yep, I'm struggling to find it. There was definitely an option to remap super key to a meta key something [11:28] <Saviq> dandrader, there was a menu like so before http://askubuntu.com/questions/19558/what-are-the-meta-super-and-hyper-keys [11:28] <Saviq> not sure where it's gone [11:33] <mhall119> mzanetti: can you register as attending the UOS too so I can make you the host of http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22440/demo-unity-8-in-desktop-mode/ ? [11:38] <Saviq> /food [11:39] <mzanetti> mhall119, takes a bit until it accepts that I've registered to UOS [11:50] <mhall119> mzanetti: if you registered for the sprint in LP yes, it has to wait for the cron job to import it [11:50] <mhall119> mzanetti: but you're all set now, thanks [13:21] <Saviq> dandrader, you need to fix your editor to strip trailing whitespace on save ;) [13:23] <dandrader> yeha [13:40] <tsdgeos> Saviq: mzanetti: greyback: hmmmm, so i am doing the "show splashscreen without spinner if on spread but not running and no screenshot" part and realized for that i need to have a property that tells me "this is fake" which we don't have as a state, we have starting, running, suspended, stopped. I could easily add a new state to those but those live in qtmir and means deciding we'll inject the "fake" apps at the qtmir level now instead of when doing the [13:40] <tsdgeos> work, alternatively i can put it in unity8 with a comment saying to decide it later or i can "abuse/reuse" the stopped state. Opinion? [13:42] <mzanetti> I think stopped is what it ism no? [13:42] <mzanetti> s/ism/is,/ [13:42] <Saviq> yeah that's what "I ran the app but it died" means [13:43] <Saviq> I think [13:43] <mzanetti> yes [13:43] <greyback> yeah, stopped means the app's process was OOM killed [13:43] <mzanetti> "I haven't ran the app" is, it doesn't exist in the AppMan model [13:43] <Saviq> yup [13:43] <Saviq> tsdgeos, ↑ [13:44] <greyback> one could abuse the "stopped" state to cover those not-yet-started apps [13:44] <mzanetti> greyback, IMO that's not even abusing it [13:44] <mzanetti> it's exactly what it is is for [13:44] <tsdgeos> well [13:45] <tsdgeos> it is and it is not _:D [13:45] <tsdgeos> the docu says [13:45] <tsdgeos> it was OOM killed and stuff [13:45] <tsdgeos> in this case it would be [13:45] <tsdgeos> i rebooted and has not even started [13:45] <tsdgeos> but ok, i'll use that one [13:45] <mzanetti> ok. should be "it was killed by OOM or a reboot" [13:45] <greyback> mzanetti: yeah, I debated writing "abuse" [13:46] <greyback> it wasn't the initial intention anyway [13:46] <greyback> and a "stopped" state does imply it was once running [13:46] <Saviq> does it [13:46] <mzanetti> yeah. [13:46] <Saviq> it's a state, it's stopped [13:46] <mzanetti> :D [13:46] <Saviq> you could very well say "notRunning" [13:46] <greyback> stopped != "not running" [13:47] * Saviq disagrees [13:47] <mzanetti> anyhow... we agree that tsdgeos can go ahead with the stopped one :D [13:47] <Saviq> ;) [13:48] <Saviq> Cyanogen in "strategic partnership" with Microsoft... [13:49] <tsdgeos> yep [13:49] <tsdgeos> they're going to ship all the apps [14:16] <seb128> hey there [14:17] <seb128> how would things like changing user fonts work under unity8? [14:17] <seb128> is that something worked on? [14:17] <seb128> or having a bug/blueprint for tracking purpose? [14:18] <seb128> (on X for e.g GTK there is a xsettings set that GTK reads) [14:26] <Saviq> seb128, more of a UITK question [14:26] <Saviq> seb128, if not a Mir one, even, depending if they want it there [14:27] <Saviq> or both.. [14:27] <Saviq> definitely worth talking about [14:29] <greyback> seb128: yeah would need some replacement for xsettings. gtk on wayland will have the same problem, so they must have a solution made somehow [14:37] <mterry> MacSlow, do you have an encrypted home dir? [14:38] <MacSlow> mterry, not anymore [14:38] <mterry> MacSlow, excellent. Then one option for you if you have down time is investigate bug 1435364 [14:38] <dandrader> MacSlow, if you're looking for reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/autoInstallTouchRegistry/+merge/256726 [14:38] <dandrader> MacSlow, would offload tsdgeos [14:38] <tsdgeos> dandrader: isn't it crashing? [14:39] <dandrader> tsdgeos, that branch? [14:39] <tsdgeos> i think that's what qmluitests said [14:39] <tsdgeos> let me check [14:40] <tsdgeos> yeah https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity-phablet-qmluitests-vivid/736/console [14:40] <tsdgeos> QWARN : tst_TouchRegistry::removeOldUndecidedCandidates() [TouchRegistry] Candidate for touch 0 defaulted! [14:40] <tsdgeos> QFATAL : tst_TouchRegistry::removeOldUndecidedCandidates() Received signal 11 [14:40] <tsdgeos> FAIL! : tst_TouchRegistry::removeOldUndecidedCandidates() Received a fatal error. [14:40] <dandrader> tsdgeos, yeah, just saw that. [14:56] <MacSlow> mterry, dandrader: I'll look at dandrader's branch first... since the QtCreator mount issue seems to need some preparation setup to reproduce [14:56] <mterry> MacSlow, yeah no worries [14:57] <mterry> MacSlow, I won't assume you're looking into it until you tell me so :) Thanks for consideringn it [14:58] <MacSlow> mterry, sure [15:15] <sidi_> What exactly does plugins/unityshell/ contain? [15:18] <sidi_> is it the UI with a search bar on the top left corner? [15:37] <Saviq> sidi_, I'm not familiar with the unity codebase, but yes, the dash (press super/windows key), launcher, the top panel with indicators etc., all that is a compiz plugin [15:39] <seb128> Saviq, greyback, thanks [16:03] <Saviq> greyback, got a pointer to scancode → qt key mappings? [16:05] <greyback> Saviq: qtbase/src/plugins/platforms/xcb/qxcbkeyboard.cpp if you're talking X11 [16:05] <Saviq> yeah good enough [16:05] <Saviq> tx [16:05] <greyback> np [16:07] <Saviq> ok this is bad/weird [16:08] * Saviq getting some crazy key code ;( [16:13] <Saviq> dandrader|afk, we seem to have a problem, silo 25 has your branch built, but I'm getting some crazy key id (269025111, correct would be 16777299), even though native scan code looks correct - 133 for Super_L...) [16:13] * Saviq flashing from scratch [16:21] <Saviq> greyback, any idea ↑? [16:24] <greyback> Saviq: not a clue [16:26] <Saviq> the bad value is like an order of magnitude wrong... [16:36] <dandrader> Saviq, should have stayed with the Home_Key... :) [16:37] <dandrader> Saviq, 269025111 doesn't map to any key at all I think [16:38] <dandrader> Saviq, should I start debugging or are you on it already? [16:39] <Saviq> dandrader, couldn't stay with Home unless we ate that key, and then people connecting keyboards would lose Home [16:39] <greyback> Saviq: maybe MIR_CLIENT_INPUT_RECEIVER_REPORT=log will output the raw key events that unity8 sees [16:39] <Saviq> dandrader, evdev says: key event at 1429720683.794992, 133 (KEY_COPY), up [16:39] <Saviq> greyback, thanks, helpful [16:41] <Saviq> dandrader, greyback, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10866894/ [16:42] <Saviq> that looks fine, doesn't it... [16:42] <greyback> Saviq: isn't 269025111 the bad value? [16:43] <Saviq> greyback, ah hmm, so maybe it's just a case that this is a not-mapped key_code [16:43] <Saviq> since power is key_code: 269025066 [16:43] <Saviq> scan_code: 116 [16:44] <dandrader> ahh, 269025111 is an XKB value... [16:44] <Saviq> in any case, evdev says it's key_copy, which is likely not mapped [16:44] <greyback> Saviq: think mir uses this table: 3rd_party/android-deps/android/keycodes.h [16:45] <dandrader> greyback, Saviq, there's a table in qtmir that maps XKB to Qt key codes [16:45] <dandrader> in qteventfeeder.cpp [16:46] <Saviq> ETOOMANYTABLE [16:46] <Saviq> S [16:47] <greyback> dandrader: true, but something has to map raw events to xkb, and I think that's mir's job [16:47] <dandrader> greyback, yes [16:47] <Saviq> XKB_KEY_XF86Copy [16:48] <Saviq> ok there's nothing to say, I'm just getting some weird key code that's all [16:49] <Saviq> dandrader, greyback, thanks, we're handling it in phablet [17:08] <Saviq> dandrader, greyback, FYI: super in Mir == KEY_LEFTMETA [17:08] <Saviq> or rather in raw events [17:08] <Saviq> i.e. it's X11 that maps it to Super_L [17:08] <greyback> Saviq: sounds wrong, isn't alt the meta key? [17:09] <Saviq> greyback, alt is alt [17:09] <greyback> Saviq: yeah, ignore me [18:23] <Saviq> dandrader, seems we forgot about distinguishing between tap vs. long press
 Saviq, if i slowly swipe from the bottom dash is reset first and then the bottom edge works. [18:24] <Saviq> dandrader, ↑ [18:25] <dandrader> Saviq, it's like its light. it blinks on press, not only after you release it [18:28] <Saviq> om26er, ↑ [18:29] <Saviq> I'm not sure, could go for either [18:29] <om26er> dandrader, aah, so we have to stick to this behavior done? unless something on the kernel is changed ? [18:30] <Saviq> om26er, no, we could do what you say, dandrader's just making the point that it behaves like the light, you pressed it, so it acts [18:31] <Saviq> om26er, and I get that argument, we'd need a designer here who actually thought this through [18:31] <Saviq> both make some sense [18:33] <om26er> Saviq, yeah, I think we need an agreement on how the functionality is supposed to be. [18:34] <Saviq> om26er, there's very little detail on that tbh [18:34] <Saviq> om26er, there's nothing planned for long press for the button for now [18:34] <Saviq> om26er, and I agree with Daniel that it follows the HW behaviour [18:35] <Saviq> om26er, so I'd say we should go for what it does now and once we have someone that actually thinks this through UX/design wise, we'll revisit [18:36] <om26er> Saviq, hmm, ok. I'll go with that. [18:36] <om26er> Saviq, [18:36] <om26er> oops [18:40] <om26er> Saviq, whats the regression potential of this change, I see it barely changes any old code. [18:40] <om26er> except for random crashes :) [18:48] <om26er> Saviq, totally irrelevant: whats the progress on "scopes in right edge switcher" thing ? [18:51] <Saviq> om26er, under design proto + testing [18:52] <Saviq> om26er, very little, it really could only affect bottom edge in apps, but even that's very unlikely since we're only monitoring events and not accepting them [18:59] <om26er> Saviq, ok. btw the bottom edge behavior is very annoying inside apps as well, a lazy drag is now very likely to bring back dash. [19:00] <om26er> also I have been just told that silos can land tomorrow as well. So probably would make sense to run this through design and if needed iterate on it tomorrow ? [19:25] <Saviq> om26er, I see what you mean, we'll get on it straight away in the morning

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.037597

2015-04-22-#ubuntustudio

[00:29] <studio-user557> how can i install my tascam us122 [02:40] <kizmut> Anyone here try OpenBroadcaster? [02:40] <Unit193> Vas ist das? [02:40] <kizmut> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBroadcaster [02:41] <Unit193> Bah, was, not vas. Danke. [02:42] <Unit193> https://bugs.debian.org/774744 [02:43] <kizmut> Different application. [02:44] <kizmut> Open Broadcast Software != Open Broadcaster [02:47] <Unit193> Bah, I can read. Yeah, sorry. I did look, it looks not too bad but don't have a personal need for it. [02:48] <kizmut> :( [07:48] <studio-user705> ciao ragazzi!! [11:55] <yorwos> hi all , ubuntu normal 15.04 is scheduled for tomorrow if it doesnt delay , do u know when ubuntu studio is going 15.04 ? is it tomorrow or a later date ? [12:43] <^MiK^> hi [12:45] <^MiK^> I'm confused guys. ubuntuStudio's Kernel its ready on realtime? or i may to config.. [12:58] <zgorbyo> hi all my daw can't seem to find calf dssi plugins any more, only dssi instruments detected [12:59] <zgorbyo> can anybody help please? [14:25] <holstein> zgorbyo: seems like, you are likely in a midi channel [14:25] <holstein> and at the point where you are looking for instruments, instead of audio plugins [14:25] <holstein> i would relax, and ask in #ardour.. i bet its just a matter of adding in a buss, or in the "proper" place for audio plugins [14:26] <holstein> i would just create a "normal" audio channel, and see that i can still add the plugins, and go from there [14:26] <zgorbyo> no they just disappeared [14:26] <zgorbyo> i used to use them [14:27] <holstein> if you literally think they disapeared, then, thats it [14:27] <holstein> if you "used to use them", then elaborate about what you have done, and when that was.. more details about the conditions [14:27] <holstein> you can try as another user, and remove your user config from the equation.. you can use the package manager of your choice to make sure that you have the packages you expect installed [14:28] <zgorbyo> maybe they disappeared after a system update [14:28] <holstein> zgorbyo: only you know [14:28] <zgorbyo> yes they are installed [14:28] <holstein> i personally very rarely update my audio production machine [14:28] <zgorbyo> i also tried to uninstall and reinstall [14:29] <holstein> anyways, again, if you are talking about ardour, and you are not seeing the plugins in ardour, try the #ardour channel [14:29] <zgorbyo> i can access the standalone version [14:29] <zgorbyo> of calf plugins [14:29] <holstein> though, they will suggest you use the version from their site [14:29] <holstein> which is fine [14:29] <holstein> but, you can also try as another user.. im not clear on if you have tried that suggestion, or not [14:29] <holstein> anyways, lots of volunteers about, if you want to work with someone.. let us know [14:30] <zgorbyo> maybe the plugins files missing in the location^ [14:30] <holstein> zgorbyo: sure.. anytime you say "maybe", just look and confirm that [14:30] <zgorbyo> i can't do it [14:31] <zgorbyo> where can i find the dssi plugins folder in the file system? [14:31] <holstein> zgorbyo: i *really* dont think so.. i really think you are using ardour, and you are either dealing with a configuration error, which, can be tested as another user.. or, you have a midi track that you are tring to add audio plugins into [14:32] <holstein> zgorbyo: you really shouldnt need to do that, and, i suggest *not* doing a bunch of reinstalling, and sudo mv'ing files about [14:32] <holstein> you can actually cause more issues than repairs [14:32] <holstein> since, you are not sure why, what is going on [14:32] <holstein> zgorbyo: *is* this ardour we are talking about? yes or no? [14:32] <zgorbyo> no its renoise [14:33] <holstein> zgorbyo: again, i suggest, opening ardour, and add a *normal* audio track.. and try adding your plugins [14:33] <zgorbyo> right [14:33] <zgorbyo> i proceed [14:34] <zgorbyo> ok done [14:35] <zgorbyo> where can i find plugins in ardour^ [14:35] <zgorbyo> ardour crashed [14:36] <holstein> zgorbyo: sure.. im not sure what system instability has been introduced to try and "fix" the percieved issue [14:36] <holstein> regardless, you are, as i see it, assuming the system has "lost" the plugins you seek [14:36] <zgorbyo> ok i just need to locate plugins in ardour to add to a track [14:36] <holstein> dont assume that.. you say they are there stand alone, so they are there [14:37] <holstein> try adding them literally in anything that ships with ubuntu.. and make certain that this is not a renoise issue, with config, or an update [14:37] <holstein> then, you'll know what the issue is [14:38] <holstein> zgorbyo: i suggested, adding a normal audio track in ardour.. then, you can go to the mixer in the menu, and right click on the black spaced on the channel, and add plugins [14:38] <zgorbyo> ok it cant seem to locate calf plugins [14:38] <holstein> you are just wanting to see the plugin in the list [14:38] <zgorbyo> but the other are present [14:38] <holstein> zgorbyo: sure, but, now, we have an additional variable.. you have been trying to "fix" them.. [14:38] <zgorbyo> yes done [14:39] <zgorbyo> dont understand [14:39] <holstein> zgorbyo: you stated you have reinstalled the plugins.. [14:39] <holstein> anyways.. what i would do is, ask in #ardour, or #opensourcemusicians [14:40] <holstein> i would work with ardour, and getting the "system" to see the plugins you want [14:40] <holstein> then, renoise should "just work" [14:40] <holstein> you may want to try as another user, as well, since, that removes your current users config from the equation [14:42] <zgorbyo> maybe a fresh installation of 1404 [14:43] <holstein> you can try a live iso, and that will remove your current install from the equation [14:45] <zgorbyo> thanks i will come back [18:37] <freireandrade> oi

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.044655

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-tw

[16:04] <freakinput> Hello. I want to type Chinese by SCIM. I've change to SCIM from ibus in Setting, but it didn't work. [16:35] <RJHsiao> You should logout and re-login. The changed setting will be effect after re-login. [16:36] <RJHsiao> 你要重新登入，輸入法的變動才會生效 [16:39] <freakinput> 我試過了，還是無法切換成SCIM，我看還是繼續用iBus好了……

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.049494

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-us-pa

[09:16] <rmg51> Morning [12:10] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.050039

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-gr

[18:40] <Spuros> kalhspera mporeite na me voithisete ?

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.051444

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-community-team

[02:14] <jose> jcastro: dude, you've already filled in all the spots! [02:15] <jose> I like the 'free credit' thing [07:11] <dholbach> good morning [11:18] <dpm> popey, where have the UOS app dev sessions gone? I can't see them anymore on the list of sessions pending to be scheduled, or in the schedule [11:19] <dpm> oh, they're probably in the "Unscheduled meetings" pane [11:19] <mhall119> dpm: you won't see them as available to be scheduled, sinc eyou're not a lead on that track [11:19] <dpm> and I can't see those without being track lead [11:19] <dpm> yeah [11:24] <dpm> mhall119, is there a way the whole team can see all sessions for the review this afternoon, even if they're not yet scheduled? [11:28] <mhall119> dpm: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/all/ shows all approved meetings [11:29] <mhall119> dpm: if that's not enough I can make us all schedule managers for the event, that would effectively give us lead-level access to all tracks [11:30] <dpm> mhall119, ah, I had tried that one, but I might have done something wrong. In any case, that works, thanks mhall119! I think if you can make us schedule managers, that'd be great, so that we can all help each other with scheduling [11:30] <dpm> or does that introduce more complexity in the django site administration? [11:31] <mhall119> no, it's somethign we've had for a while, usually msms would get this so she could make any necessary changes at in-person UDS [11:31] <mhall119> since we went virtuals and had many leads, we just haven't needed it [11:31] <dpm> mhall119, in that case, if you could do that for our team, that'd be great [11:32] <mhall119> done [11:32] <dpm> cool, thanks [11:32] <mhall119> dpm: can you see all the tracks on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/review/ now? [11:33] <dpm> mhall119, ah, that's the url that got me confused in the first place. I can only see one session there: "Demo: Unity 8 in Desktop mode" [11:35] <mhall119> dpm: probably not that anymore either, since I just approved it [11:35] <mhall119> dpm: but you see all the track names now? [11:36] <dpm> mhall119, no, it's now empty [11:36] <dpm> ah, [11:36] <dpm> I probably need to log out and back in, don't I? [11:36] * dpm tries [11:36] <dpm> no luck [11:42] <popey> dpm: sorry, was having lunch, has mhall119 sorted you? [11:43] <dpm> all good, thanks popey [12:18] <czajkowski> popey: good news table has been fixed co working day will resume shortly :D [12:18] <popey> heh [14:43] <jcastro> mhall119, I'm on 14.10 r16 on my N4, is that the latest hotness or can I play with something new? [14:50] <mhall119> jcastro: devel-proposed is the hotest hotness [14:50] <mhall119> which is r181 for mako [14:52] <jcastro> how do I get there from here? I don't mind reformatting [14:52] <mhall119> ubuntu-device-flash --channel ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed [14:52] <mhall119> should work [15:07] <jcastro> mhall119, is ubuntu-touch/devel that far behind? [15:08] <jcastro> seems like a safer bet for me [15:11] <mhall119> jcastro: it was, we may have had a promotion there this past week [15:11] <jcastro> ok I'll start there [16:02] <dpm> thanks jcastro for getting the cloud sessions scheduled! [16:02] <jcastro> <3 [16:02] <dpm> :-) [16:09] <dholbach_> all right my friends - see you all tomorrow again! [16:10] * popey hugs dholbach_ [16:10] * dholbach_ hugs popey back :) [16:10] <dholbach_> have a great rest of your day

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.055862

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-hr

[04:37] <Vlado9A3CY> dobro jutro [06:42] <rut> dj [07:22] <SilverSpace> jutr [08:05] <vileni> centos7 nema ifconfig [08:05] <obruT> ne dolazi po defaultu, koristi "ip" :P [08:06] <obruT> ak bas oces ifconfig, instaliraj net-tools [08:06] <obruT> vec godinama se oce admine naucit na "ip", no vidim otpor je velik :) [08:06] <vileni> koristio sam ga povremeno :) [08:06] <vileni> i centos6 mi je preporucao to [08:15] <jelly> vileni: ni debian 7 nema [08:17] <vileni> too much 7 [08:42] <Vlado9A3CY> ahoj :) [08:52] <Mmike> vileni: nemoj koristiti ipconfig [08:52] <Mmike> ne pokaze ti sve [08:56] <vileni> Mmike: ifconfig valjda? ili si opet na windowsima :) [08:56] <Mmike> ifconfig, ifconfig :) [09:01] <Mmike> vileni: uoci kak ifconfig ne pokaze dodatnu IP adresu na eth0: http://jebo.me/pas/2 [09:09] <weshmashian> mornin' [09:32] <vileni> i ova nova imena interfejsa me zbunjuju [09:45] <Mmike> vileni: nova imena? [09:47] <vileni> Mmike: pa interface mi se zove ens160 [09:47] <vileni> a vidim da ima i ludjih naziva [09:48] <Mmike> meni uredno pise eth0 [09:48] <vileni> to sam prije po bsd strojevima vidjao [09:48] <Mmike> doduse, doma mi se zove 'rename2' :) [09:48] <Mmike> a na kucnomserveru p10p1 [09:48] <Mmike> :) [09:48] <vileni> e to [10:30] <Mmike> 'several people from crosvallia checked your profile' [10:35] <infy-> enp2s [10:35] <infy-> 0 [10:35] <vileni> Mmike: falis im? :) [10:35] <Mmike> ili oni meni :) [11:04] <SilverSpace> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioFGfWe3ixM [11:04] <datase> YouTube: Gnome-terminal wacky resizing animation - 0:00:16 - 78 views [11:04] <SilverSpace> jebo gnome terminal [11:04] <SilverSpace> sam od sebe jebe [11:05] <SilverSpace> nikako to rijesiti [11:05] <SilverSpace> rucak sparoge [11:16] <SilverSpace> rijesio g terminal jebo ga patak tako da sam instalirao mate terminal :) [11:17] <jelly> rxvt-unicode ftw [11:18] <SilverSpace> ajd da vidim :) [11:19] <SilverSpace> fuj ruzan je [11:20] <infy-> rxvt je život [11:42] <jelly> ruzan? [11:42] <jelly> pa nema nista u njemu osim terminala, sta ima bit ruzno [11:45] <SilverSpace> jelly: neda mi se petljat da ga namjestim u boju kak ja hocu :) [11:46] <jelly> lol [11:46] <ivoks> jelly: e, uzasno mi je spor link danas [11:48] <jelly> mirka vrti torrente? [11:48] <ivoks> nije [11:48] <ivoks> cak je ugasila komp [11:48] <jelly> p'kak [11:48] <ivoks> ono, ne mogu niti voip ostvariti [11:48] <jelly> mirka: si tu [11:49] <ivoks> ssh mi kasni 20 sekundi [11:49] <ivoks> 13:42 -!- mirka [~mirka@141-136-156-5.dsl.iskon.hr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] [11:49] <ivoks> 13:44 -!- mirka [~mirka@141-136-156-5.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-hr [11:49] <ivoks> barem 20 sekundi [11:49] <ivoks> jelly: ajde provjeri ^ [11:49] <jelly> ivoks: ne mogu nis provjeriti na bitstreamu [11:50] <jelly> al ping 141-136-156-5.dsl.iskon.hr je skroz ok, 7-8ms [11:50] <ivoks> fuck... voip je neupotrebljiv [11:51] <jelly> prijavi korisnickoj, nemam pojma zasto ste uopce jos na bitstreamu umjesto na nakedu [11:51] <mirka> jelly tu sam. nevino optuzena :D [11:51] <jelly> pa vidim [11:52] <ivoks> da, nevina... [11:52] <ivoks> :D [11:54] * weshmashian i dalje ceka iskonov vdsl doma [11:54] <jelly> ivoks: s nakedom bi mozda trebali imati mrvicu vise korisnih informacija [11:55] <jelly> nema prijavljenih velikih problema u tom kvartu, so... who knows [11:55] * jelly -> ručak [12:38] * Mmike nebu iskon, cini se da s tim ima fino problema :) [12:45] <Mmike> zakaj ovi svi prodavatelji bilo cega ponude salju u .rtf formatu? [12:45] <Mmike> kaj fali pdfu? [12:45] <Mmike> kaj nije to profesionalnije? [12:51] <frainfreeze> dobro pitanje. [12:52] <frainfreeze> Ali ako ti browser spremi dokument automatski veca je vjerojatnoca da ces imati rtf reader nego li pdf. [13:17] <CrazyLemon> ako koga zanima..tour of croatia na eurosport2 [13:20] <obruT> CrazyLemon: izgleda da ima i na htv2, upravo frend javio, a ja gledam na eurosport2 [13:23] <CrazyLemon> eurosport2: "radoslav rogina - a slovenian" :D [13:27] <obruT> ak se vrijeme ne pokvari, ja ih u petak cekam gore na vrhu Ucke [13:28] <CrazyLemon> ja sam mislio otič do umaga u subotu ali propali planovi [13:28] <obruT> ostao bih ja u Istri, ali moram u Paklenicu :P [13:30] <obruT> otkud je uletio onaj kabriolet ? [13:55] <obruT> "bodies everywhere" :) [14:01] <SilverSpace> uh [14:02] <SilverSpace> obruT: u kojoj si ti koloni bio :) [14:07] <SilverSpace> nakon par dana prckanja po legend odlucio sm staviti CM 10.1 android 4.2.1 je malo sporiji ali mi se pokazao najstbilniji [14:08] <Mmike> obruT: SilverSpace: koju app da si na mob uturim za tracklog raditi? [14:09] <Mmike> SilverSpace: fakat, kaj trazis da ti donesem mobitel pa ga malo preslozis, vidis kaj najbolje radi i to? [14:09] <Mmike> bez sale? [14:09] <SilverSpace> lol :) [14:10] <SilverSpace> ma ne volim prckat uopce a pogotovo ne po tudem mobu :) [14:11] <Mmike> beh [14:12] <SilverSpace> Mmike: koji ti je sad android gore [14:12] <Mmike> 4.1.2 [14:16] <SilverSpace> 4.4.2 CM 11 ful radi na tvojem [14:21] <Mmike> kaj to znaci - full radi? [14:21] <Mmike> SilverSpace: btw, kad metnem taj CM, necu imat googleovih sranja, poput google playa i inih nebulodrekova? [14:24] <SilverSpace> Lollipop jos ne radi sve [14:24] <SilverSpace> cm nema google play [14:24] <SilverSpace> ali imas paket kojim ga doinstaliras [14:25] <Mmike> u biti mi google play treba [14:25] <Mmike> al' google music [14:25] <Mmike> google cooking [14:25] <Mmike> google wanking [14:25] <Mmike> to necu [14:25] <SilverSpace> ne samo google play [14:25] <Mmike> SilverSpace: a 4.2 i 4.3 da preskocim? [14:26] <SilverSpace> http://novafusion.pl/s3-mini/ [14:26] <SilverSpace> ovdje ti pise sve kaj radi i kaj ne radi [14:28] <Mmike> 12.1, di pise koji ej to android? [14:29] <Mmike> aha [14:29] <Mmike> meni treba u biti 11.0 [14:33] <SilverSpace> http://novafusion.pl/downloads/ [14:33] <SilverSpace> tu izaberes koji hoces [14:34] <SilverSpace> imas i Google Apps [14:34] <SilverSpace> ako hoces [14:34] <SilverSpace> ja na legend nisam stavio jer pojede sav room [14:35] <SilverSpace> ovako app skinem i sa ubunta instaliram [14:46] <Mmike> nabijem web stranice s reklamama [14:47] <Mmike> i to onima koje se otvaraju usred citanja [14:52] <SilverSpace> :) [14:53] <jelly> [ ako vam se svidjela stranca prijavite se nas newsletter! ] [14:53] <jelly> $#@!^ [14:54] <jelly> klik na ABP, Block element, nadjes <div> element sa popup reklamom i sakrijes zauvijek [15:13] <VjetarSaSunca> ABP ftw! [15:14] <api984> dan [15:14] <api984> wass up [15:18] <frainfreeze> hi there [15:19] <frainfreeze> ha-ha, [15:19] <frainfreeze> ha. [15:20] <jelly> . [15:21] <SilverSpace> ke [15:27] <ivoks> http://humboldt.craigslist.org/rvs/4986649886.html [15:32] <Mmike> terrakom.hr [15:32] <Mmike> cloud provider u .hr [15:33] <Mmike> kvm-based [15:33] <Mmike> idm-provided [15:33] <jelly> idm? [15:39] <Mmike> ibm [15:42] <jelly> taj ibm si i ti mozes priustit, flex sasije i blejdovi i najmanji storwize [15:44] <Mmike> imaju guba wbe sucelje za taj klawd [15:44] <jelly> da taj OnTap izgleda ok [15:46] <jelly> cak je 10 kuna jeftiniji od ovog di sad imam nagios [15:48] <Mmike> ne znanm cijene [15:48] <Mmike> ja sam dobio neki besple pristup na par dana [15:48] <Mmike> za nekvi openerp [15:48] <Mmike> navodno nesmije knjogovstvena baza bit van .hr [15:50] <jelly> jedino nisma gledao kak se dodje do konzole i kak se boota svoj .iso [16:02] <jelly> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8mtV4kTAPU [16:02] <datase> YouTube: Goombay Dance Band - Seven tears 1981 - 0:02:56 - 832,292 views - 1690 likes / 45 dislikes [17:23] <ivoks> iss [17:23] <ivoks> susjed prek puta je opsjednut muzikkom [17:23] <ivoks> slusa jazz, hard rock, becarce, narodnjake [17:23] <ivoks> i to da cuju i druge zgrade [17:44] <jelly> jel bar ima dobar zvuk [17:51] <Mmike> ivoks, mozda kupio zvucnike nove :) [18:34] <frainfreeze> jelly, tako i ja samo sto imam samo 3 susjeda sa dobrom izolacijom i neslusam ta sranja vec kulturne stvari. [18:34] <frainfreeze> EDM, post / indie rock / pop. [18:44] <jelly> jazz i hard rock su hardly sranja [19:16] <Mmike> velis, hevi metal bi vec mogo bit sranje :) [19:16] <Mmike> a o minimal tekknu da i ne pricamo? :) [19:37] <frainfreeze> Pa ono o okusima se neraspravlja. Znam ja poslusati i hard rock. [19:37] <frainfreeze> referirao sam na narodnjake i bećarce [19:50] <Mmike> davno sam ja reko da je pacemaker smece [19:50] <Mmike> a nitko ne slusa [19:50] <Mmike> eee, da sam bar baba :) [20:15] <Vlado9A3CY> dobra vecer [20:18] <Mmike> btrfs tak nije za upotrebu jos :) [20:19] <SilverSpace> jaj kak pogode uvijek tekmu bez golova [20:19] <SilverSpace> jebo htv [20:20] <SilverSpace> doduse i druga je bez golova [20:38] <SilverSpace> ha nadojeb za kodi za gledanje MAXtv To Go

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.073221

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-my

[03:26] <excalibr> mypapit, anda di sana? [03:27] <excalibr> tahu tak samada Heroku sekat outbound port yg bukan http/https?

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.074870

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-discuss

[04:13] <lotuspsychje> good morning [04:18] <daftykins> o/ [04:18] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/Ubuntu-15-04-Is-Now-Available-on-all-System76-Products-479011.shtml [04:19] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: hello mate [04:20] <daftykins> ^_^ [04:21] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-15-04-Powers-the-Desktop-the-Cloud-and-the-Phone-478973.shtml [04:22] <lotuspsychje> this sounds interesting [04:50] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: hellow [04:50] <EriC^^> hello lotuspsychje [04:50] <lotuspsychje> everything fine? [04:51] <EriC^^> yeah you? [04:51] <lotuspsychje> will you upgrade to 15.04? [04:51] <lotuspsychje> fine tnx [04:51] <EriC^^> nah, 14.04 here [04:51] <EriC^^> i'll put it in a vm though [04:51] <EriC^^> you? [04:51] <lotuspsychje> im also want to stick on an LTS, but libreoffice 4 seems so nice :O [04:52] <lotuspsychje> !info libreoffice vivid [04:52] <lotuspsychje> total makeover [04:52] <EriC^^> nice [04:53] <EriC^^> i'm a sucker for checking the wall papers :P [04:53] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: good morning mate, you added to favs! [04:53] <lotuspsychje> yayyy [04:53] <EriC^^> i wonder what goodies it'll have [04:53] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, but of course! [04:53] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: got an url handy on the vivid ones? [04:54] <EriC^^> morning cfhowlett [04:54] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, greetings & salutations [04:54] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: nope [04:54] <lotuspsychje> holdon i think those are out [04:55] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: http://www.webupd8.org/2015/03/ubuntu-1504-vivid-vervet-community.html [04:55] <lotuspsychje> with a download link :p [04:55] <EriC^^> thanks [04:58] <lotuspsychje> euphoria looks nice [05:01] <daftykins> always makes me die when people thank ubottu XD [05:01] <EriC^^> yeah, looks nice [05:02] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: they think its a guy with wisdom :p [05:02] <daftykins> :D [05:02] <lotuspsychje> !life [05:02] <lotuspsychje> hmm [05:02] <EriC^^> lol [05:03] <cfhowlett> !42 [05:03] <lotuspsychje> we do have a life!! [05:03] <lotuspsychje> an ubuntu life, but dont give us a name :p [05:04] <lotuspsychje> a budhist goes to a hotdog vendor and asks: make me ONE with everything! [05:04] <daftykins> XD [05:29] <lotuspsychje> laterz breakfast [09:54] <lordievader> Good morning. [10:20] <MonkeyDust> wayland [11:37] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all [12:22] <MonkeyDust> in vmware, lsb-release for 15.04 no longer says "development branche", yay! [12:23] <MonkeyDust> \o/ [16:40] <lotuspsychje> evening to all [16:41] <lordievader> o/ [16:42] <ablest1980> hello [16:42] <lotuspsychje> hi ablest1980 and lordievader [16:43] <lordievader> How's your pc business going? [16:43] <ablest1980> did contact hp? [16:43] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: oh i didnt start yet, still getting my degree, but i had some replys back [16:43] <lotuspsychje> laptopsplus.nl can supply me everything they say [16:43] <lordievader> Positive ones? [16:43] <lotuspsychje> yep [16:44] <lordievader> Nice, nice. [16:44] <lotuspsychje> but my favorite one, coolblue cant supply barebone laptops [16:44] <lotuspsychje> too bad.. [16:44] <lotuspsychje> didnt receive from hp and dell ye... [16:44] <lotuspsychje> yet [16:46] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: not many companys do barebone laptops.. [16:47] <lordievader> Suppose not. [16:47] <lotuspsychje> the business is so used to ms windows by default [16:47] <lordievader> Yeah, not a large market for laptops without an OS, I think. [16:48] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: well for dekstops, i can buold myself, but laptops is something else [16:48] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: and i wanna save money to the customer with ubuntu and ssd inside [16:49] <lordievader> I know ;) [16:50] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/Ubuntu-15-04-Is-Now-Available-on-all-System76-Products-479011.shtml [16:50] <lotuspsychje> these guys are going great :p [16:51] <BluesKaj> wife's sister asked what I did to pass the time in my retirement ..."oh runs linux and helps ppl with it" (or some such ) ... she didn't even know what an operating system was , and she used compuiters at her insurance company job since the 1980's...go figure :) [16:52] <daftykins> O_O [16:52] <lotuspsychje> lol [16:52] <BluesKaj> just thought I'd pass that lil anecdote on [16:53] <daftykins> i just got forwarded another of these emails by a client [16:53] <daftykins> "is it spam?" [16:53] <daftykins> it was in my spam folder. [16:53] <BluesKaj> and she's not a dumb person [16:53] <lotuspsychje> alot of ppl in my country never heard of 'ubuntu' before even [16:54] <lotuspsychje> then i have to explain its linux [16:54] <lotuspsychje> something like another Os then windows :p [16:55] <daftykins> i find people are not clear what programs come with Windows, nor how that itself is different from the Office suite [16:55] <daftykins> when i'd speak of reinstalls over the years, the clients would start going "wait... will it have internet explorer?" [16:55] <lotuspsychje> someone tested libreoffice 4.4 yet? [16:56] <daftykins> no sir [16:56] <lotuspsychje> looks neat complete makeover [16:57] <daftykins> ooh [16:58] <lotuspsychje> popey: whats that channel for you posted on irc mailinglist? [16:58] <BluesKaj> some ppl just aren't technically oriented, and a lot of them don't care :-) [16:58] <popey> lotuspsychje: eh? [16:58] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: true [16:58] <lotuspsychje> popey: i received a mail from you on mailinglists right [16:59] <popey> yeah, i was looking for the bot owner [16:59] <popey> found him :) [16:59] <lotuspsychje> popey: ah kk good [17:00] <lotuspsychje> someone should invent a deamon tools multi Os to mount/install/play whatever game on the raw hardware [17:01] <lotuspsychje> so we could play heavy games on ubuntu aswell [17:06] <lotuspsychje> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6bZ5S9Q-yI [17:07] <lordievader> Deamon tools? Mount can mount iso's just fine. [17:07] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: yes but they cant handle heavy games like gta5 on ubuntu right [17:09] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: so the idea would be to make a deamon tools for any Os that can play the games on the computers hardware [17:09] <lordievader> Go at it ;) [17:10] <lotuspsychje> lolz [17:25] <lotuspsychje> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LYZtDpDTTQ [19:27] <lordievader> If someone wants to do dracut + systemd on a luks + lvm rootfs, let systemd/dracut figure out which luks container to open. I.e. use rd.auto instead of rd.luks.uuid= [20:00] <OerHeks> EriC^^ [21:09] <linuxgeekr24> I saw that Ubuntu 15.04 is getting ready for a final release in a few days. What new features and stuff will it have? [21:11] <OerHeks> good start https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes [21:14] <linuxgeekr24> OK, so I see that Ubuntu 15.04 will use version 3.19 of the Linux kernel. What changed with that version? [21:21] <OerHeks> dunno, i wait for 4.0 / systemD [21:21] <OerHeks> maybe kernel.org has a list? [21:27] <linuxgeekr24> OK, so why not just use the 4.0 release of the kernel in Ubuntu? Sounds to me that the offical changelog could be pretty meaty [21:28] <Guest86582> wow, yikes [21:29] <linuxgeekr24> Does the Linux kernel archives site have changelogs for their different versions? [21:30] <EriC^^> left the pc on [21:31] <EriC^^> with the wifi, connection sucks [21:31] <lordievader> OerHeks: I finally got my systemd + linux 4 to boot :D [21:32] <EriC^^> lordievader: cool [21:32] <lordievader> Haven't gotten the chance to use it yet though. [21:32] <OerHeks> I am too lazy to find more urls

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.079701

2015-04-22-#ubuntu

[00:00] <Rastart> bekks: nice,is there another way? :P [00:00] <bekks> Rastart: No. [00:01] <Rastart> !samba [00:03] <AndroUser> (AndroUser) (AndroUser) In okular, when using the drawing tool I cannot block the tool for making long handwriting Can you try if you can? I thing is somethinh wrong in my computer cause before i could, it started when changing the default stroke color [00:04] <Rastart> well.thank you for your help guys.bye ;) [00:05] <MrEikono> thanks for the help guys [00:05] <user549p20> hi i need help with github [00:05] <user549p20> where can i be directed? [00:06] <somsip> user549p20: www.github.com [00:12] <AndroUser> (AndroUser) (AndroUser) In okular, when using the drawing tool I cannot block the tool for making long handwriting Can you try if you can? I thing is somethinh wrong in my computer cause before i could, it started when changing the default stroke color [00:20] <Rastart> hello. how to see and manage all the autorun and boot programs and services please?i need both terminal and interface. [00:22] <Bashing-om> ~ [00:23] <Jordan_U> !upstart | Rastart [00:24] <Jordan_U> Rastart: Though honestly, since systemd is replacing upstart in the very soon to be released Ubuntu 15.04 you're probably better off learning how to use systemd. [00:24] <Rastart> !systemd [00:24] <Rastart> when the 15.04 will be released? [00:25] <Jordan_U> Rastart: In two days. [00:27] <Rastart> btw is there some good tutorial on how to use upstart and maybe some advanced tricks on boot and autorun programs and services management? [00:28] <Rastart> i think that my ubuntu got too many functions i don't really need. [00:28] <Rastart> i'm sure about that and i don't want no more to have to deal with this. [00:29] <Rastart> it's a problem for me and i'm searching for a solution. [00:29] <daftykins> so install from mini.iso and then just install desktop components instead of the full suite. [00:29] <Rastart> i had some boot problems some months ago [00:29] <daftykins> or run a distribution which is more geared toward minimalists such as yourself [00:30] <Jordan_U> Rastart: In my personal opinion, upstart is very unintuitive to use. Systemd make much more sense to me, and is much more well documented. Systemd also tries to start only what's needed, when it's needed, whereas Upstart's model is to try to start anything it can as soon as it can (needed or not). In that way, systemd sounds more like what you want, and you in 2 days you can upgrade and get it. [00:32] <Jordan_U> Rastart: I also totally second daftykins' suggestion of starting with the minimal installer if you really want a minimal system. It will let you install exactly what you want, and nothing else. Note however that it does still default to installing the full Ubuntu desktop (if I recall correctly) so pay attention to the menus while installing. [00:32] <daftykins> you'd have to ignore tasksel and just go via manual package installation, yeah [00:33] <Rastart> daftykins: truth is that i always found linux too complicated so i always feel like a newbie...it is always been difficult for me to find the correct path or a method to learn all things i need to know..i like computer stuffs yeah but linux is always really hard for me to understand even if i'm not bad at doing everything i need with windows with linux i feel really..dumb. :( [00:34] <daftykins> well i don't even run desktop and stick to servers :) [00:34] <Rastart> but i like minimalism...i'm a positive person and i only would like to feel safe cause i don't understand linux the same way i don't understand world. [00:35] <enigmaOQD> niñas follando >> http://www.joserro1.5gbfree.com/?p=205 [00:36] <Rastart> but i like to learn i really like to.but with linux i never found the how to for learning..except for ubuntu irc channel [00:36] <Wug> Rastart: upstart is poorly documented, and also not finished [00:37] <Wug> some glorious day it will replace cron, but today is not that day [00:37] <daftykins> Rastart: you often need a task to set for yourself for how to learn, there's a free intro course on edx.org though that i'd recommend going through. [00:37] <daftykins> it's called LFS101x [00:37] <daftykins> Jordan_U: looks like we have a spammer needing ejecting ^ [00:38] <Jordan_U> daftykins: Thanks. [00:39] <daftykins> np :) [00:39] <Rastart> it's like linux is full of knowledge but doesn't want to let me in to allow me understand its secrets..and ignorance may turn you into someone else's bitch you know how world is i don't have to explain or to hide. [00:39] <DalekSec> Wug: Have you never seen http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/? [00:39] <Rastart> i want this to be my computer and not someone else. [00:40] <gingermouse> Rastart: Try to keep the language clean, please. =) [00:41] <Rastart> gingermouse: Sorry =) [00:41] <Wug> DalekSec: maybe, i dont know. I haven't had to do anything with it in a while [00:41] <Wug> DalekSec: the problem I have with linux utilities is they all expect me to read the entire 600 page manuscript detailing every little feature [00:42] <DalekSec> Wug: I wouldn't call that "poorly documented" exactly, and table of contents helps. [00:42] <Wug> there is no abbreviated "ok so you want to start a program at boot time, heres an example" section for people who don't want to spend 5 hours reading it all [00:43] <Wug> it is poorly documented. not poorly documented as in insufficient content, but as in useless organization [00:44] <Wug> that said, i dont know if i saw the upstart cookbook. is it indexed by google? that's how i tend to find things [00:44] <Rastart> I like ubuntu cause it's a community that is meant to be made by users [00:45] <Wug> it is certainly nice that when I find a problem with something, I can hop on freenode, join #[program name], and check if it's a bug [00:45] <Rastart> the ubuntu irc support is great. but irc need advanced knowledges about network too. [00:46] <daftykins> IRC networks? [00:48] <Bashing-om> Rastart: In addition to irc, there are 3 other venues of support for ubuntu specifically . ubuntuforums, askubuntu and Ubuntu Discourse . [00:48] <Rastart> well when you're in the net and you don't have a good net configuration you might not know or not care but if you do you can't feel really safe in irc. [00:49] <Wug> im not too worried about it [00:49] <Wug> this isn't efnet. this is society, we have rules [00:50] <Rastart> but you can't believe all people are good it is statistically impossible. we don't live in a perfect world unluckily. [00:50] <Rastart> :P [00:51] <ramrebol> Hi. I'm from America (and ubuntu user since several years), how can I get an ubuntu phone? [00:52] <Rastart> i had my computer completely fucked in past.cause my knowledge was not good enough. [00:52] <xangua> !language | Rastart [00:52] <Rastart> oh sorry it is not my fault :( i talk like this in rl cause i'm cool [00:52] <daftykins> i think you'd best take the non-support queries of general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic now, Rastart [00:53] <Rastart> well not so cool. :P [00:54] <Rastart> daftykins: oh thank you.and sorry all guys i didn't want to bother here with non-tech speaking. [00:57] <Rastart> and honestly i'm not the guy who break rules of a community he always tough it's good. [00:58] <Rastart> thank you ubuntu support. [00:59] <EriC^> !touch | Rastart might be useful [01:11] <Windowsaurians> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Would-You-Give-Up-on-Windows-7-and-Install-Windows-8-If-It-Were-Free-478978.shtml [01:12] <ryan_46> ramrebol, Information about Ubuntu phone in /j #ubuntu-touch [01:13] <idobrt> olá boa noite. Estou com um problema no wireless do unbutu 14.04 que fica caindo toda hora. Já tentei várias soluções na net e n obtive sucesso. Alguém ai sabe como resolver? uso um modem wireless usb [01:15] <xangua> !pt | idobrt [01:20] <azizLIGHT> what does this message about upgrades mean: http://i.imgur.com/3heNvgV.png [01:20] <azizLIGHT> im on 14.04 and dont want to upgrade until next lts [01:20] <azizLIGHT> does partial upgrade mean go to 14.10 or 15.04 [01:21] <ramrebol> ryan_46: thanks for the information ! [01:21] <daftykins> azizLIGHT: could be your PPAs ruining things. run command line utilities for more info. updates != upgrades between versions [01:21] <xangua> azizLIGHT: have you actually read the message? do you use third party repositories? [01:23] <azizLIGHT> yeah but it says "partial upgrade" and doesnt upgrade mean next ubuntu version [01:23] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, try sudo apt-get update, give us the output [01:23] <kostkon> !paste [01:23] <ryan_46> ramrebol, You are welcome [01:23] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, sorry, i meant sudo apt-get upgrade [01:23] <daftykins> azizLIGHT: no, an upgrade is installing latest packages [01:24] <azizLIGHT> i have some ppa xangua [01:24] <MannyLNJ> Help. I had a dual boot Ubuntu, windows 8 system. I shrunk Windows 8 so i can add windows 7 and then I lost Ubuntu. I followed an online guide and now I lost all 3 operating systems. I am running off a live usb and it does show 3 drives. how can I fix my problem? [01:24] <azizLIGHT> !pastebinit [01:25] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: so not even 8 boots right now? [01:26] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: correctr no OS is found when i power on the laptop [01:26] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: enter the EFI setup and check 'Windows Boot Manager' is the default boot choice, that should at least restore 8 if it's available. [01:26] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, probably some of your packages come with new dependencies and as a result a partial upgrade is needed to install them [01:27] <jj3124> Hi all, I'm struggling to find the correct drivers for my GPU. It is a Sapphire Radeon HD 3650 512MB. Anyone have any idea where I'd start to look? [01:27] <azizLIGHT> kostkon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10864202/ [01:27] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: If EFI is like the BIOS there is no option for Windows Boot Manager. This is an ideapad z560 [01:27] <daftykins> jj3124: you can only use the 'radeon' open source driver that should be in use as default, your card is too old for anything else. [01:28] <jj3124> daftykins: D'oh! Okay, thank you! I was told the proprietarys suck, but if there's no other options I guess I'm boned. [01:28] <daftykins> jj3124: yeah AMD dropped HD 4xxx and below [01:28] <jj3124> Dang, well I appreciate the quick response [01:28] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, probably you are using a ppa that has something to do with providing you with the multimedia stuff? [01:28] <daftykins> no problem :) [01:28] <kostkon> latest* [01:28] <jj3124> In that case, where is a good place to find a cheap prebuilt computer capable of running Source games :P [01:28] <azizLIGHT> i think i installed a ppa for ffmpeg [01:29] <Bashing-om> jj3124: There are none, as AMD dropped support for that series of cards. - Release 12.04.1 ... emphasis on 1 - still has the xserver that AMD supported . [01:29] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: I think I need to rebuild GRUB from the live usb but I'm not sure [01:29] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, it's up to you now, either disable the ppa, purge it or go ahead anyway. It won't upgade your ubutnu, just those pacakges [01:29] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: mmm, show us a "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" (you'll need to install pastebinit) [01:29] <azizLIGHT> kostkon: im not getting what the issue is [01:30] <azizLIGHT> and what is a partial ugprade [01:30] <daftykins> azizLIGHT: i've said like 3 times, what is the problem D: [01:30] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: alrady installed it when i joined the channel. let me open a term and get the result [01:30] <daftykins> azizLIGHT: how about a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ? [01:30] <azizLIGHT> i dont really understand it [01:30] <azizLIGHT> i dont want to change from 14.04 [01:31] <azizLIGHT> just yet [01:31] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10864209/ [01:31] <daftykins> dist-upgrade _DOES NOT_ upgrade version [01:31] <azizLIGHT> so what does then? [01:31] <azizLIGHT> im confused [01:32] <daftykins> azizLIGHT: run it and pastebin the output [01:32] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | azizLIGHT [01:32] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, it's called a partial upgrade before it does more than updating your already installed pacakges [01:32] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: hrmm i don't see an ubuntu / partition at all, just a swap partition [01:33] <azizLIGHT> !upgrade [01:33] <azizLIGHT> so apt-get upgrade does what [01:33] <daftykins> installs new packages. [01:33] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: You are right but trust me I had Ubuntu on it. [01:34] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, upgrade updates your pacakges, dist-upgrade performs partial upgrades, do-release-upgrade upgrades your ubuntu version [01:34] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: sure, i just thought you meant you lost the boot option. erk! i think you need to start from scratch really [01:34] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: looks like a non-EFI installation too [01:34] <azizLIGHT> so the diff between upgrade and dist-upgrade, is that, upgrade puts new versions of already installed software, and dist-upgrade puts new versions of already installed software and removes something? what does it remvoe [01:34] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: I think somehow I installed Ubuntu onto one one the NTFS partitions. is that possible? [01:35] <azizLIGHT> kostkon: ok i get release upgrade bit now [01:35] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, either removes or adds(installs) new pacakges [01:35] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: nah, the file system doesn't support Linux distros [01:35] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: Wait I bet the 200GB extended with no FS is where Ubunto lives and when io was trying to fix the booting issie I messed up the file system [01:36] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: yeah - 196GB / lurking there perhaps [01:36] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: if you don't have any data to recover i'd just start again i think [01:36] <azizLIGHT> daftykins: heres dist-upgrade: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10864224/ [01:37] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, ok it's gnna remove a pacakge that's why you got the partial upgrade prompt/window [01:37] <daftykins> azizLIGHT: seems good, you see libvlccore7 is being replaced with ...8 [01:37] <daftykins> yeah looks like VLC was trying to keep itself to a prior version [01:37] <azizLIGHT> hm ok. so why dont people just do dist-upgrade all the time? [01:37] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, and as daftykins said replace it with a new pcakge [01:37] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: Here is my problem. this USB drive boots the live version with no problem but installs fail with errors. i have no other system to use for a week and would like to not have to rely on a live image until then. also I need to boot into win dows 8 for some software that doesn' exist in Linux [01:37] <daftykins> azizLIGHT: i do. [01:38] <azizLIGHT> ill do dist-upgrade now. thanks for advice [01:38] <azizLIGHT> and also autoremove, right? [01:38] <azizLIGHT> does it matter the order [01:38] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: ok, run gparted and try removing the boot flag from partition 3 (sda3) and adding it to sda1 [01:38] <daftykins> azizLIGHT: nope [01:39] <jj3124> Hey thanks again for your help guys. [01:39] <jj3124> Have a great night [01:39] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: can i ignore Glib_CRITICAL errors? [01:39] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: what are prompting those? [01:39] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: when I did sudo gparted [01:40] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: Missing source id's [01:40] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: oh don't do that. you don't run GUI apps with sudo [01:41] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: ok I figured out where to run it from [01:41] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: I see Win 8 is /dev/sda2 and win 7 is /dev/sda3 [01:42] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: yip [01:42] <daftykins> but set the boot flag on sda1 [01:42] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: setting /dev/sda1 as bootable [01:43] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: Can i reboot now? [01:43] <daftykins> if you also removed it from sda3 yep [01:44] <daftykins> might be safer powering off, remove the flash drive, then power on and see if anything boots [01:44] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: It is remolved from sda3 which has a lock icon [01:44] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: shutting dow. [01:51] <netameta> i am installing ubuntu on virtual box, now to fix the window size problem it seems i need virtualbox-guest-x11 but when i do apt-get install virtualbox-guest-x11 i get this error: some packages could not be installed. this may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you ..... [01:52] <daftykins> we await your pastebins describing the situation, netameta :) [01:52] <netameta> daftykins waht ? [01:52] <daftykins> !paste [01:53] <daftykins> netameta: show us :) [01:53] <netameta> daftykins i dont have anything to show you [01:53] <netameta> i ren the command [01:53] <netameta> and got that error [01:53] <netameta> i am not sure what you want me to pastbin [01:54] <daftykins> oy vey. [01:54] <daftykins> do a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" first off then [01:55] <netameta> Alrighty [01:55] <netameta> update done [01:55] <checkit> q [01:55] <checkit> exit [01:55] <checkit> q [01:55] <checkit> host [01:55] <daftykins> "/quit" [01:56] <daftykins> netameta: this might be better to follow - http://askubuntu.com/questions/451805/screen-resolution-problem-with-ubuntu-14-04-and-virtualbox [01:58] <netameta> daftykins exactly what i am following [01:58] <netameta> utils and dkms worked fine [01:58] <netameta> x11 -- the rror [01:58] <daftykins> they might well be sufficient? [01:59] <MannyL> daftykins: That worked. Both windows os boot now [01:59] <daftykins> MannyL: huzzah \o/ [01:59] <daftykins> *smug mode* [01:59] <daftykins> MannyL: any data on the missing ubuntu you need? [02:00] <daftykins> netameta: ah it looks like -utils and -x11 are options perhaps [02:00] <MannyL> daftykins: now can I install Ubuntu WITHOUT using the install image on the flash drive? I don't mind reinstalling from scratch. There is no essential data on that partition [02:00] <daftykins> MannyL: perhaps redownload an ISO, hash check it, then remake your flash drive to ensure it won't give errors? [02:01] <daftykins> make sure you boot the flash drive in non-EFI mode too [02:02] <MannyL> daftykins: I don't have an option for EFI or non EFI. I guess I can boot back to windows and make a new USB image there. [02:02] <daftykins> sounds like a plan [02:02] <daftykins> Universal USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com gets my vote [02:04] <netameta> well this is extremly weird [02:04] <daftykins> hrmm? [02:05] <netameta> it wont install it [02:05] <netameta> Well i am going to restart it [02:05] <netameta> how do you restart ubuntu safly ? [02:06] <daftykins> can you not see the normal GUI items for restart? [02:06] <daftykins> sudo shutdown -r 0 is fine [02:06] <netameta> Sure can [02:06] <rgb-one> netameta: fix window problem? what do you mean? [02:06] <netameta> but never used ubuntu before [02:07] <Qwertie> Is there a package for ffmpeg in the ubuntu repos? [02:07] <daftykins> i was under the impression avconv replaced ffmpeg ages ago [02:07] <rgb-one> netameta: If you mean you want the screen to auto resize when you adjust it then you need virtualbox guest additions. [02:08] <daftykins> rgb-one: if you read up, you'd see that's what the installation of is being discussed :) [02:08] <netameta> rgb-one, i am trying to install them but not getting anything [02:08] <dant2> So this is kinda a Windows question but I am not sure. I installed windows as a dual boot on my 2nd HD of my PC, and now I cant boot my backup partition (Or any partition) from windows. But the data is all there using ubuntu. Anybody have a clue what is up with that? [02:09] <netameta> is this the right command rgb-one ? sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms \ virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-guest-x11 [02:09] <daftykins> dant2: so Windows *after* Ubuntu, now Ubuntu doesn't boot? [02:10] <daftykins> dant2: "boot my backup partition from Windows" sadly does not make any sense [02:10] <rgb-one> netameta: No. Install the guest additions from the virtualbox menu of the running vm [02:10] <dant2> daftykins, Both Ubuntu and Windows boot, but my storage partition (1700GB of 2TB for storage, the rest is just ubuntu) no longer will mount under windows. [02:10] <daftykins> aaaah. [02:10] <daftykins> dant2: which OS are you in now? [02:10] <dant2> dant2, Currently booted into Windows8 writing a school paper [02:11] <dant2> daftykins, I mean not myself [02:11] <daftykins> dant2: if you run "diskmgmt.msc" by pressing super+R how does that partition appear? any issues? [02:12] <dant2> daftykins, Yeah I ran that and I just see it as a huge raw partition [02:12] <daftykins> uh-oh [02:12] <daftykins> i had a feeling it would be so, raw is a very bad sign [02:12] <daftykins> something has nuked that [02:12] <rgb-one> netameta: Look in the Device Menu and click "Insert Guest Additions CD Image..." [02:13] <netameta> done that now it says press return to close this window [02:13] <dant2> daftykins, now that I think about it every boot I get some weird errors, but it never stopped anything from working so I ignored it. What exactly does Raw mean here? [02:14] <netameta> not sure which key is return [02:14] <rgb-one> netameta: You clicked "Download" right [02:14] <rgb-one> ? [02:14] <rgb-one> netameta: Return is the Enter Key [02:14] <netameta> i clicked devices -> inset -> and followed from there [02:15] <daftykins> dant2: dead. no recognisable file system [02:15] <rgb-one> netameta: Alright click the enter key [02:15] <netameta> and rebooting now [02:15] <dant2> daftykins, But it still shows up in ubuntu, I havent tried reading anything from it but I assume it works. [02:15] <daftykins> i doubt it. [02:16] <daftykins> until you boot into ubuntu and can run some commands to confirm, we can't progress [02:16] <dant2> Sure, saving my paper now and about to reboot [02:16] <netameta> rgb-one. daftykins, thanks folks [02:16] <netameta> works [02:17] <rgb-one> netameta: cool [02:17] <netameta> now just need to learn how to use ubuntu :-)( [02:18] <daftykins> \o/ [02:18] <Bashing-om> netameta: ^^ Time and effort will fix that , Hang in here . [02:18] <anonymous__> hello boys [02:19] <daftykins> and girls [02:19] <dant2_2> daftykins, Ok I am rebooting now. Had to get onto IRC on my laptop [02:19] <kostkon> !manual [02:20] <daftykins> dant2_2: once you get there, "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" and share the link here [02:20] <daftykins> bonus points for making it a clickable link [02:20] <netameta> well i have about a year and half experiance through terminal use of ubunutu but never actually installed it [02:20] <netameta> daftykins [02:21] <netameta> you're a girl ? [02:21] <netameta> And you used oy vey [02:21] <daftykins> nah i just think it's not right to assume everyone's male :) [02:22] <somsip> !girl | netameta [02:22] <[n0mad]> bahaha [02:22] <[n0mad]> they've just thought of everything [02:22] <netameta> Yea i had some insident in node.js with same thing calling everyone guys [02:24] <daftykins> i like to think of 'guys' as gender neutral, so there's that [02:24] <daftykins> anywho back to topic [02:25] <netameta> we had a topic ? [02:25] <dant2_2> I was actually sitting here worrying about everything derailing, because god can gender derail a conversation anytime, anywhere [02:25] <netameta> Just a little general question about ubuntu, the terminal and gui are tied to eachother right ? [02:26] <daftykins> err, in what way? [02:26] <netameta> so if i apt-get install something i could somehow get it to show in guy [02:26] <dant2_2> daftykins, So that command seems to freeze up, I do get the error "Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!" [02:26] <daftykins> the GUI is just an application [02:26] <TiK> I have java install but can't get mindcraft to see it [02:26] <netameta> Say i want to install chrome, i assume i will have to apt-get chome..something [02:26] <dant2_2> daftykins, Also the partition still boots in Ubuntu oddly enough [02:27] <daftykins> netameta: it's actually not available in the repos since Google make it, so you need to download the .deb from them which... ironically installs a package repository then installs the browser. [02:27] <daftykins> chrome is overrated though. [02:27] <TiK> I like firefox [02:27] <daftykins> dant2_2: partitions do not boot, booting is solely the act of an OS starting up on a system :) [02:27] <daftykins> 'mount' is the word you're looking for here [02:27] <dant2_2> daftykins, Oops, yeah. [02:28] <daftykins> dant2_2: is there any important data you need on this mythical partition? [02:28] <TiK> can anyone help me with minecraft? [02:28] <SchrodingersScat> TiK: how did you install java? [02:28] <rgb-one> netameta: you can get chromium from the repos which is the testbed for googlechrome [02:28] <netameta> i see and i will have to do that though terminal right ? [02:29] <netameta> after i do it though terminal will it be avialble in guy ? [02:29] <rgb-one> netameta: you can use the software center [02:29] <netameta> this terminal / gui kinda confuse me [02:29] <daftykins> what is "guy" ? [02:29] <SchrodingersScat> presumably gui [02:29] <dant2_2> daftykins, Not really. Although this drive is also where Ubuntu is installed, but I am certain removing this partition shouldnt break Ubuntu [02:29] <dant2_2> daftykins, Or at least I imagine [02:29] <daftykins> dant2_2: nah not unless it's set to automount in /etc/fstab [02:29] <netameta> daftkins what you mean guy ? [02:30] <daftykins> netameta> after i do it though terminal will it be avialble in guy ? [02:30] <daftykins> yeah, what do YOU mean 'guy' ? :D [02:30] <harris> hey [02:30] <netameta> Ah.. [02:30] <netameta> gui [02:30] <netameta> crap [02:30] <netameta> sorry [02:30] <daftykins> hehe np [02:30] <daftykins> harris: hi [02:30] <harris> daftykins, !!! [02:30] <daftykins> oh-emm-gee daftyyyyy [02:30] <daftykins> wait, wat [02:30] <harris> ltns [02:31] <harris> how do i make programs open at my mouse location [02:32] <dant2_2> daftykins, So what exactly is the best way to fix this partition? Or should I just delete it. [02:32] <TiK> SchrodingersScat: cool nick uh I installed the jre for openjdk but I think i need the SE [02:32] <daftykins> you could fiddle with it in gparted, or just delete and recreate [02:33] <daftykins> dant2_2: i was hoping to get an incling as to what is wrong from parted though [02:33] <netameta> ./configure --prefix-/usr -just tell it to install in /user right ? [02:33] <rgb-one> netameta: With the terminal you are specifying instructions in the form of commands which are executed in order to perform a certain task. This is in contrast to a GUI where you click a button and the task gets performed automatically. [02:34] <netameta> rgb-one, so basically they both do the same thing just in different form ? [02:34] <harris> how do i make programs open at my mouse location [02:34] <daftykins> the GUI makes the hard stuff easy, the CLI makes the impossible possible [02:34] <dant2_2> daftykins, paste.ubuntu.com/10864362/ [02:35] <dant2_2> daftykins, It also seems I never deleted OSX from when I was tribooting [02:35] <daftykins> aww non-clickable, bonus points lost [02:35] <SchrodingersScat> TiK: thought jre should be enough, but also how did you install it? nothing when you java -version #? [02:35] <daftykins> dant2_2: oh dear you're using intel fakeRAID? [02:36] <dant2_2> daftykins, I guess? I set up raid using my motherboard and installed afterwards [02:36] <daftykins> messy [02:37] <daftykins> hrmm so which is the one we're talking about? [02:37] <dant2_2> daftykins, UNTITLED 2 (Number 5) [02:37] <dant2_2> On the 2TB disk [02:37] <TiK> SchrodingersScat: i get 2 versions of java when i --version it [02:37] <daftykins> FAT32 1.5TB, yeah that's - not gonna work well [02:38] <rgb-one> netameta: With one (directly interfacing on the command line through the terminal), you have control over what instructions are being performed as you type them explicitly; with the other (the GUI) you are restricted in what you can do because the application you are using handles performing the task you would otherwise perform at the command line. [02:38] <dant2_2> daftykins, Fat32 was the only FS that Windows, Linux, and OSX Yosemite all liked. [02:38] <netameta> rgb-one, and daftkins again thanks very much for clarifying makes more sense now [02:38] <daftykins> yeah, exFAT would've been better [02:39] <daftykins> dant2_2: i think i'd open gparted and kill the HFS+ partitions then, and this one - then recreate a single exFAT [02:39] <dant2_2> daftykins, For some reason exFAT wasnt working for me, no clue why. But it doesnt matter now I dont triboot anymore. [02:40] <dant2_2> daftykins, Sure sounds good. I will just back up my few files first I guess. Will that get rid of my boot errors? [02:40] <dant2_2> daftykins, Although I guess you dont even know what the errors are. [02:40] <daftykins> i had this recently, if you create it from Windows you have to use a 1024KB cluster size for macs to read it [02:40] <daftykins> heh, nah i do not :D [02:43] <dant2_2> daftykins, Any clue why macs need a 1024KB cluster size? [02:43] <rgb-one> netameta: To give an example `sudo apt-get install chromium` would be the command you type in the terminal to install the Chromium Web Browser. You could alternatively install it from the Sofware Centre (a GUI application) by searching for chromium and clicking install in which case the application would perform the `sudo apt-get install chromium` command. To be clear, the terminal is an interface to the command line. You know cmd prompt from Windows? The [02:43] <rgb-one> terminal is the equivalent. [02:43] <daftykins> their implementation must just have issues with the Windows 7 default of 4,096KB [02:44] <daftykins> i recovered some data for someone and provided it on an exFAT drive, knowing they own Macs - but was surprised to hear it didn't mount [02:44] <daftykins> format with 1,024KB... perfect [02:45] <dant2_2> So weird. Also is the error when starting Gparted "Cant have a partition outside the disk" something I should worry about? [02:45] <daftykins> it indicates something is out of whack, but doesn't sound like it really points at what [02:46] <dant2_2> Kinda feel like I should just reinstall, I had no clue how many old partitions and crap I had. And it seems like I screwed something up at some point. [02:46] <daftykins> whatever you do - copy that darn paper off onto an external of some kind first ;) [02:47] <daftykins> maybe just live with it until your work is done [02:47] <daftykins> assuming you have deadlinse approaching [02:47] <daftykins> deadlines too [02:47] <dant2_2> Yeah will do, luckily Windows is on my Raid Ubuntu is on its own drive. [02:47] <TiK> Question: how do i remove a package i couldn't install ? E: The package jre1.8.0-45 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. [02:47] <dant2_2> daftykins, my boot error says something about the disk drive for /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 or something like that [02:48] <daftykins> oh that's normal when attempting an encrypted install i think [02:48] <daftykins> TiK: dpkg -r <package> ? [02:48] <TiK> daftykins: 1sec [02:49] <TiK> can I PM you? [02:49] <TiK> got a few lines of text here [02:49] <daftykins> no use the paste site [02:49] <TiK> thats why i asked :P [02:50] <TiK> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10864407/ [02:51] <daftykins> TiK: "sudo dpkg -r --force-all <package>" [02:52] <cluelessperson> Question, I made a git user as a system account [02:52] <cluelessperson> then deleted it [02:52] <cluelessperson> now I'm trying to make a regular user, git, and it's telling me the account is locked [02:52] <cluelessperson> I tried sudo passwd -l git but it's still locked [02:53] <TiK> daftykins: nope 1 sec [02:53] <daftykins> http://askubuntu.com/questions/68793/how-do-i-unlock-a-user-account [02:53] <TiK> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10864417/ [02:54] <netameta> is there a way to check if i have JDK installed ? [02:54] <TiK> daftykins: it tried to reinstall [02:54] <cluelessperson> netameta, java -version ? [02:54] <TiK> netameta: java --version [02:55] <daftykins> "javac" would run if you had a JDK :) [02:55] <TiK> daftykins: any ideas about this? [02:55] <daftykins> TiK: mmm, did you get this from a PPA originally? like from oracle [02:55] <netameta> jSo i have none installed [02:55] <TiK> daftykins: i downloaded the RPM and used alien to make it a deb then installed said deb but it failed and now i can't remove it [02:55] <netameta> lets see how i get one [02:56] <TiK> netameta: apt-cache search JRE [02:56] <TiK> there are 3 or 4 [02:56] <netameta> i need JDK not JRE [02:56] <daftykins> TiK: sweet mother of Tux, why on earth would you do such a thing O_O [02:56] <TiK> daftykins: cuz the stupid repo doesn't offer sun java anymore [02:56] <TiK> oracle even [02:56] <netameta> TiK i guess i shoud change it to search JDK [02:56] <daftykins> never did, you have to add their repo for that [02:57] <TiK> no you can download from their site [02:57] <TiK> no repo [02:57] <daftykins> yeah but repos are better than debs [02:57] <TiK> true [02:57] <TiK> id love to have sun in the repos [02:57] <daftykins> anyway, that script errors as it says /usr/sbin/alternatives doesn't exist - so you could try creating it [02:57] <daftykins> to cheat it [02:58] <TiK> do what now? [02:58] <daftykins> well look at your paste, the error on line 7... [02:58] <TiK> tik@tik-laptop:~$ whereis alternatives [02:58] <TiK> alternatives: /etc/alternatives [02:58] <daftykins> so create /usr/sbin/alternatives so it has something to remove :D [02:58] <TiK> wonder if it is trying to find that [02:58] <cluelessperson> I'm trying to create the regular user git but it says the account is Locked? ! [02:59] <cluelessperson> I tried unlocking it with sudo passwd -l git [02:59] <daftykins> cluelessperson: scroll up to my link [02:59] <cluelessperson> but no dice [02:59] <cluelessperson> daftykins, oh sorry [02:59] <cluelessperson> looking [02:59] <daftykins> also note it was a google result. [03:00] <daftykins> i think you need to try some self research in future :) [03:00] <TiK> daftykins: how do i make a sym link to /etc/alternatives [03:00] <cluelessperson> daftykins, another command sudo passwd -l user is supposed to the same thing supposedly [03:00] <cluelessperson> maybe that just locks though [03:01] <daftykins> follow the page :) [03:01] <cluelessperson> daftykins, regardless, thanks [03:01] <daftykins> TiK: i don't think that's a good idea because it's going to be removed, just put a file or directory in /usr/sbin/ [03:01] <jmadero_> hi all - I have a Lenovo Y530 that I'm trying to get to boot from USB and it just refuses [03:01] <daftykins> tried all USB ports? [03:02] <daftykins> fully formatted the flash drive before loading up the ISO? how was it created? [03:02] <jmadero_> daftykins: when in Windows it sees the USb drive [03:02] <jmadero_> daftykins: fully formatted, two separate USB [03:02] <jmadero_> one unetbootin, the other startup disk creator [03:02] <jmadero_> both fail, but work in another system [03:02] <daftykins> hrmm [03:02] <jmadero_> daftykins: exactly, got my father in law all excited about Ubuntu [03:02] <daftykins> universal USB installer from pendrivelinux.com gets my vote, but yeah if it works elsewhere the drive must be ok [03:03] <jmadero_> he installed on his main system now wants on his laptop [03:03] <daftykins> jmadero_: i take it the thing came with Windows 8? [03:03] <jmadero_> daftykins: the USB port is an interesting idea [03:03] <jmadero_> daftykins: no it's quite old [03:03] <jmadero_> Vista [03:03] <daftykins> ah ok [03:03] <jmadero_> and a google search shows no obvious issues [03:03] <jmadero_> many people say it runs Ubuntu without a hitch [03:03] <daftykins> the one-time boot menu is F12 on some recent Lenovos i have here [03:04] <jmadero_> daftykins: yeah I have that, it shows this hotplug option for USB [03:04] <jmadero_> when I select it, nothing happens, goes to Vista [03:04] <daftykins> can you take a pic? [03:04] <jmadero_> when I disabled the HDD from bios, and just had the USB drive plugged in, says can't boot [03:04] <daftykins> nothing in the BIOS that's potentially messing with this? [03:04] <jmadero_> of what? [03:04] <daftykins> of the F12 menu [03:04] <jmadero_> daftykins: sure, but now it's family dinner (sorry) will return shortly [03:04] <jmadero_> with a picture [03:04] <jmadero_> :) [03:04] <daftykins> excellent [03:04] <jmadero_> daftykins: hopefully you don't leave before, you've helped before [03:04] <jmadero_> my father in law will be happy [03:05] * jmadero_ waves [03:05] <daftykins> feel free to do one of all the BIOS screens too [03:05] <jmadero_> be back in a bit [03:05] <jmadero_> will do [03:05] <daftykins> o/ [03:05] <jmadero_> exit [03:05] <daftykins> i'll be here i'm sure [03:05] <jmadero_> quit [03:05] <jmadero_> asdl;fj;asdf [03:05] <daftykins> lol. [03:06] <TiK> daftykins: now it's bitching that it's a directory [03:06] <TiK> im just gonna reinstall my OS [03:06] <daftykins> that's ridiculous [03:07] <daftykins> TiK: copy /etc/alternatives to it instead [03:07] <TiK> daftykins: thats what i Did [03:07] <daftykins> sudo cp /etc/alternatives /usr/sbin/alternatives [03:08] <TiK> daftykins: I did but i used -a [03:08] <TiK> im copying files now gonna do a complete reinstall [03:08] <daftykins> :( [03:08] <TiK> im stuck dude [03:08] <TiK> this is gonna take a while to backup files [03:09] <TiK> 42m on this move [03:09] <daftykins> giving up :( [03:09] <TiK> i don't see any other solution [03:09] <daftykins> read line 586 of /var/lib/dpkg/info/jre1.8.0-45.postrm [03:09] <daftykins> lets see what it really wants to do [03:10] <daftykins> if you can satisfy the requirements of the remove script, it can be removed [03:10] <TiK> 1sec [03:10] <daftykins> we have the technology... [03:11] <TiK> daftykins: thats way to complex for me [03:12] <daftykins> *facepalm* [03:12] <daftykins> fine. [03:12] <daftykins> all you have to do is pastebin that file [03:19] <netameta> Is it possible to make an icon do a certain action ? [03:19] <netameta> like setting apth / and then addin icon that will perform a tsk [03:19] <daftykins> i don't follow. [03:20] <gingermouse> netameta: you mean like make it so you double-click an icon and have it do a little task? [03:21] <netameta> ok for example to run php storm right now, i have to do something like cd homedirectory ./phpstorm.sh [03:22] <netameta> gingermouse, so instead of going through all of this i wiould just clicka button on the left menu and it will do that for me [03:22] <gingermouse> So you want to run a program for which there isn't currently an icon in the dash, right? [03:22] <gingermouse> Got it. [03:22] <netameta> yea i thinks so [03:22] <daftykins> except that's a script [03:22] <gingermouse> So you'll want to have a look at the files in /usr/share/applications [03:23] <netameta> daftykins, yes its a script [03:23] <daftykins> lol. [03:24] <netameta> what ? [03:24] <vonsyd0w> i think ~/.local/share/applications is a good location, doesn't require root [03:24] <gingermouse> If you copy one of them to ~/.local/share/applications, you can modify it so that the exec= line points to the script you want to run. [03:24] <netameta> i guess its a bit more complicated then i thought [03:24] <gingermouse> Then just set a name (you only need to set it in English, or whatever language you have set) and point it to an icon. [03:24] <daftykins> you might have to tell it to run "sh script.sh" [03:25] <gingermouse> The best location for user-defined .desktop files. [03:25] <netameta> well i dont really know where to start [03:25] <netameta> so i will for the time being skip that [03:26] <vonsyd0w> lol, the internet is awesome. netameta try reading this: http://askubuntu.com/q/220512/859 [03:27] <vonsyd0w> but i'd use ~/.local/share/applications instead of /usr/share/applications [03:28] <netameta> thanks very much [03:32] <coolstar-pc> Hi, I installed gnome-music but it's unable to find music in my Music folder [03:33] <coolstar-pc> I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 [03:33] <gingermouse> coolstar-pc: when I installed it, for some reason I had to run "tracker-search --music-albums" and "tracker-search --music-artists" before it would see any songs. [03:34] <coolstar-pc> gingermouse: hmm, when I run those commands it doesn't list any music albums :/ [03:35] <gingermouse> coolstar-pc: that said, Gnome Music didn't really work for me at all last time I tried it. Every time I pressed play or pause, it would pop up a dialog telling me, and on the queue screen the window behind the album art was transparent. [03:35] <coolstar-pc> gingermouse:when I'm trying it it's saying "No Music found!" even though I have around 150 songs in my music folder [03:36] <gingermouse> coolstar-pc: how did you install it in 14.04? From software center? [03:36] <coolstar-pc> I installed it from synaptic [03:36] <coolstar-pc> I don't really trust the software center much as it doesn't show technical details when installing packages [03:37] <coolstar-pc> gingermouse: hmm, seems like tracker isn't indexing any files properly [03:37] <gingermouse> No, I see now that it is in the repository [03:38] <gingermouse> coolstar-pc: that might actually be your problem. Personally I just use Rhythmbox [03:38] <cluelessperson> for some reason this user I just created doesn't show up when I do [03:38] <cluelessperson> users [03:38] <coolstar-pc> gingermouse:I've tried making tracker clear and reindex but it doesn't seem to be indexing at all [03:38] <gingermouse> cluelessperson: how did you create the new user? [03:39] <cluelessperson> gingermouse, nevermind, sorry for wasting your tmie [03:39] <cluelessperson> users shows you who's logged inapaprently [03:39] <gingermouse> cluelessperson: not at all! =) [03:39] <cluelessperson> gingermouse, You'd think "user" would show current logged in user, not users. :P [03:39] <gingermouse> coolstar-pc: unfortunately, that's all I know about Gnome Music. It just seems to not work in Ubuntu. [03:40] <gingermouse> cluelessperson: nothing particularly intuitive about that, no worries. [03:42] <ichery> I'm currently running ubuntu 15.04 on my machine and want to keep updating it until the next LTS version is released. Will I be able to upgrade it - any neg impact? Thanks [03:43] <gingermouse> ichery: in theory that should work without any issues. Make sure you install all updates as soon as they come out or at least once a week. [03:43] <daftykins> ichery: yes just keep installing updates and on release day it'll be final. [03:47] <gingermouse> ichery: I would always back up your files and have an install disk handy whenever you do an upgrade to a new version of Ubuntu, just in case. [03:47] <ichery> Thanks gingermouse and daftykins. How about if I'm using Nvidia drivers instead of Nouveau? [03:47] <gingermouse> Murphy's law says having it will mean you won't need to use it. ;) [03:47] <daftykins> then you better pray you didn't download them manually from nvidia's website [03:47] <[n0mad]> oh, so what does 2 backups mean?! [03:48] <ichery> Make sense. tks [03:48] <gingermouse> Yw! =) [03:51] <[n0mad]> would it be normal to see a file in terminal and in another app but not in nautilus? [03:52] <[n0mad]> it's an example.desktop file i believe that i downloaded [03:52] <[n0mad]> it's in my home dir but i can't see it except in terminal and systemback [03:53] <Bashing-om> n0fuq: A dot (.XXXX) file ? [03:53] <gingermouse> [n0mad]: it doesn't have a . in the front of it, does it? [03:53] <[n0mad]> no, it's not hidden [03:54] <[n0mad]> i guess i could try moving it to a different dir in terminal [03:55] <gingermouse> [n0mad]: can you pastebin the contents? [03:56] <[n0mad]> weird, terminal tells me no file but list it [03:56] <[n0mad]> sure [03:57] <[n0mad]> gingermouse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10864537/ [03:58] <gingermouse> [n0mad]: what's in the .desktop file? [03:58] <[n0mad]> i looked with root too in nautilus and don't see it there [03:59] <[n0mad]> i don't know, let me see..when i tried to move it it said no file so doubt i can open it [04:01] <[n0mad]> ohhh [04:01] <[n0mad]> i know what it is [04:01] <[n0mad]> lol [04:01] <[n0mad]> it's that examples shortcut [04:01] <[n0mad]> blah [04:01] <[n0mad]> been confused about this for a while and it's dumb [04:02] <[n0mad]> links to some folder with some sample .ogg files [04:03] <[n0mad]> thanks anyway gingermouse and Bashing-om i'm deleting that [04:03] <gingermouse> Hah, no worries. [04:03] <[n0mad]> it wouldn't move because i can't find "s" on my keyboard [04:04] <gingermouse> The thing about .desktop files is that they can look different in terminal and file browsers [04:04] <[n0mad]> right, makes sense [04:05] <[n0mad]> i tried opening in gedit and it did which made me start really wondering. I noticed it was type "Link" and then i moved it and saw it clear as day with the little shortcut arrow [04:09] <Bashing-om> [n0mad]: Ain't the terminal wonderful :) [04:13] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all [04:17] <neopsyche> ? [04:17] <neopsyche> are you just messing with me? [04:18] <lotuspsychje> neopsyche: you have joined an ubuntu support channel [04:18] <daftykins> ...? [04:18] <neopsyche> ginter mouse.. .desktop files are like.. launchers [04:18] <neopsyche> lol. dafty, this conversation just got dafty. [04:18] <neopsyche> ;-) [04:19] <neopsyche> Sorry all I had no sleep [04:19] <lotuspsychje> neopsyche: maybe re-ask your issue so others can help you? [04:20] <daftykins> neopsyche: or sleep [04:20] <neopsyche> no i was referrring to your name [04:21] <neopsyche> lol [04:22] <thegrreat> Is there any terminal command to search for package by name ? [04:22] <lotuspsychje> thegrreat: apt-cache search packagename [04:22] <thegrreat> I mean for example i want to find a package to download by name "test" [04:23] <thegrreat> Not a package i have downloaded already [04:23] <lotuspsychje> thegrreat: yes [04:24] <thegrreat> ok thanks [04:29] <greenape> I have a Lubuntu question [04:30] <greenape> anyone on? [04:30] <lotuspsychje> !ask | greenape [04:33] <greenape> Ive never used Lubuntu before and sometimes it shutsdown in about 3 seconds. Is this normal? Im not used to a PC turning off so quickly heh. [04:35] <lotuspsychje> greenape: ubuntu shuts down very fast on computers, this is normal mate [04:35] <lotuspsychje> greenape: especially if you have good hardware on lubuntu [04:35] <greenape> no its an old PC [04:36] <lotuspsychje> greenape: then its a good old pc, with a lightweight lubuntu working very smooth :p [04:37] <lotuspsychje> greenape: you are worried something was wrong? [04:37] <greenape> yes since Ive had trouble with it before although I switched the HDD and its cable [04:38] <greenape> seems like its fine now but wanted to be certain [04:38] <lotuspsychje> greenape: you can sleep on 2 ears [04:39] <greenape> Idk what you mean by that [04:39] <lotuspsychje> greenape: it means, dont worry its fine [04:39] <greenape> ok thanks [04:44] <lotuspsychje> Eric__: morning mate [04:45] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: morning [04:53] <nalle_> hi [04:54] <nalle_> I am trying to update ssh server 1.5.9 on ubuntu server version 12.04 [04:54] <nalle_> I want the openssh server version 1.6.1 or higher [04:55] <nalle_> is there a way to do this without updating the OS [04:55] <nalle_> as precise repo only supports openssh server version 1.5.9 [04:56] <lotuspsychje> !pinning | nalle_ maybe with this [04:57] <nalle_> thanks ubottu I will try it [05:05] <ANJ7> why does my IP keep on changing if I switch between ubuntu and windows [05:06] <daftykins> which IP? internal LAN one? [05:08] <rking> @ANJ7, because your router recognizes two different operating systems. It treats it as two separate computers. [05:08] <rking> and reserves the IP. [05:09] <ANJ7> rking: oh, ok. [05:09] <rking> @ANJ7 As you switch back and forth your router will pickup your mac address and reassign the IP used previously. [05:09] <rking> At least, should. ha [05:10] <daftykins> that'd be the opposite of what's being reported [05:10] <rking> @daftykins, when it picks up the same mac address it will change it unless a static IP is set. [05:11] <rking> because it looks past the *nic [05:11] <daftykins> i disagree [05:11] <cluelessperson> question [05:12] <rking> My cisco router assigns 3 different IP addresses to the same mac address because it knows the hostname is different. [05:12] <cfhowlett> !ask | cluelessperson [05:12] <postmodern> is there a good graphic mkv chapter editor? [05:12] <cluelessperson> cfhowlett, I'm trying to install git as another user, "git" [05:19] <Ademan> cluelessperson: what's your question though? [05:19] <penos> ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggunit [05:19] <penos> hello guys [05:45] <cosmic_atheist> how is everyone this evening? [05:47] <penos> im ok u [05:58] <andrewjs18> hi folks, I can't seem to clear this error from apache, even though there IS a servername defined in my apache conf: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using IP Address. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message [05:58] <daftykins> you need to configure your server with an FQDN [05:58] <daftykins> edit /etc/hosts and before "hostname" put "hostname.domain" [05:59] <andrewjs18> let me give it a whirl [05:59] <daftykins> so e.g. "127.0.1.1 hostname.domain hostname" [06:00] <Flannel> No, that's not what you want. [06:00] <andrewjs18> right now I just have the IP and hostname [06:00] <Flannel> You need to modify an apache config file: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Troubleshooting_Apache [06:00] <Flannel> (well, you create it first) [06:01] <daftykins> well my method works fine :) [06:01] <rking> ^ [06:01] <Bartistic> Can anyone try to help me with sound problems on my laptop? [06:02] <andrewjs18> thanks daftykins & Flannel [06:02] <andrewjs18> I used the 2nd method [06:02] <andrewjs18> worked fine, no more errors when restarting apache [06:02] <daftykins> Bartistic: ask away with detail and if someone knows they'll answer [06:03] <Bartistic> 1 down vote favorite I am using HP Elitebook 8540w and Ubuntu 14.04 Stil problem with sound. Alsmost thought I found a solution: alsactl -F restore it enabled sound, still have only headphones in sound settings, but the sound is working. headphones are not. After rebooting, speakers are muted again, headphones are working. How do I fix this, but I want headphones to be headphones that work when I plug the jack in, and I want [06:04] <dsmith> Hey morning everyone [06:05] <Bartistic> Speakers are not working on my elitebook, not even in sound settings. Headphones are workin fine. How to fix it? [06:07] <Bartistic> Speakers are not working on my elitebook, cannot see them even in sound settings. Headphones are workin fine. How to fix it? [06:08] <daftykins> please stop repeating [06:08] <daftykins> !repeat [06:11] <Bartistic> Anyone? [06:12] <Bartistic> :( [06:14] <FriendsNone> help, i can't find termit in synaptic. [06:16] <xangua> FriendsNone: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install termit [06:19] <Bartistic> Can I repeat my question now? [06:19] <FriendsNone> xangua: couldn't find package termit [06:19] <xangua> !info termit [06:21] <qu4nt1n> !s flash [06:22] <kostodo> Having trouble clearing space in /boot [06:22] <FriendsNone> i think its the version of ubuntu that i'm using [06:23] <kostodo> Keeps telling me to do apt-get -f install but when I do that it says there is no space to run it [06:23] <daftykins> kostodo: "ls -al /boot | pastebinit" [06:23] <cfhowlett> kostodo, time to clean out some kernels [06:23] <kostodo> Trying [06:23] <cfhowlett> kostodo, sudo apt-get autoremove should do it [06:23] <kostodo> But when I try purge it says unmet dependencies and to do apt-get -f install [06:23] <kostodo> And again space issue [06:24] <daftykins> yep return the above command then we can get cracking [06:24] <FriendsNone> terminal suggestion? any one. [06:25] <kostodo> http://pastebin.com/Uwb81dF5 [06:25] <kostodo> Butt load of old kernels there [06:25] <daftykins> FriendsNone: what version? [06:25] <kostodo> uname -a shows that I'm running 39 [06:25] <FriendsNone> daftykins: of ubuntu, because i'm trying to install termit [06:26] <daftykins> kostodo: ugh. "sudo dpkg -r linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic linux-image-3.13.0-33-generic linux-image-3.13.0-34-generic linux-image-3.13.0-35-generic" [06:26] <daftykins> FriendsNone: yes which version of ubuntu? [06:26] <FriendsNone> daftykins: 10.04.4 [06:26] <daftykins> FriendsNone: server? your OS is dead in exactly 8 days. [06:27] <kostodo> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/7vCstDGR [06:27] <FriendsNone> daftykins: i downloaded desktop ver. [06:28] <daftykins> FriendsNone: 10.04 desktop is even more dead, you're using an end of life distro version - we can't help you with that [06:28] <daftykins> FriendsNone: install a supported version then we can talk :) [06:29] <kostodo> daftykins, see the dependency errors? [06:29] <daftykins> kostodo: alright, "sudo dpkg -r linux-image-extra-3.13.0-32-generic" then "sudo dpkg -r linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic" [06:29] <daftykins> yes i tend to need a few seconds to type :) [06:29] <kostodo> Old school eh? [06:29] <kostodo> ;) [06:29] <FriendsNone> daftykins: ok, can you suggest a terminal... [06:30] <daftykins> FriendsNone: no, i'm saying the OS you've installed is dead - you should not be using it :) [06:30] <Bartistic> http://askubuntu.com/questions/612118/sound-problems-on-elitebook-8540w?sfb=2 [06:30] <kostodo> daftykins, ok that worked. Should I keep doing that for the lot of them bar 39 that Im using? [06:30] <FriendsNone> daftykins: oh *shocked* [06:31] <daftykins> kostodo: kill all the linux-image-extra for 33, 34 and 35 - then their main images - then do "sudo apt-get -f install" to finish that it was doing. pretty sure all your kernels are out of date [06:31] <daftykins> !info linux-image-generic trusty [06:31] <cfhowlett> FriendsNone, current Long Term Support version is 14.04.2. download it, install it [06:31] <daftykins> kostodo: yeah see ^ 3.13.0-49 is current. [06:32] <cfhowlett> !lts | FriendsNone [06:32] <FriendsNone> cfhowlett: i know what LTS means [06:33] <daftykins> i'd recommend 14.04 [06:33] <Bartistic> FriendsNone, Limited Time Support (I think) [06:33] <daftykins> Long Term [06:33] <FriendsNone> lol [06:33] <daftykins> you know, like the above factoid says... [06:33] <Bartistic> or that [06:33] <kostodo> daftykins, ok resuming apt-get -f install. But I see its again doing 40, 41, etc. Is that OK? [06:33] <daftykins> kostodo: seems your machine is out of date! let it finish then do a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" perhaps [06:34] <kostodo> I'm gonna run out of space in /boot again aren't I? [06:34] <Bartistic> Is there anyone I can contact privately to help me with missing sound on laptop? [06:34] <daftykins> you know what to do. [06:34] <kostodo> daftykins, but I can only delete up to 39 right? [06:35] <daftykins> you could remove 32-37 and then 40 right now [06:35] <daftykins> plenty of free space after those :P [06:35] <kostodo> ok either way it stopped on 43 [06:36] <kostodo> I guess now I should dist-upgrade [06:36] <kostodo> Thats gonna be a long process right? [06:36] <cfhowlett> kostodo, dist-upgrade means you will still be on 10.04 [06:37] <kostodo> I'm using 14.04 [06:37] <cfhowlett> kostodo, doh! sorry, my mistake. 14.04.2 is current [06:37] <kostodo> I'm on 14.04.1 [06:38] <kostodo> How long does the update process take? [06:38] <cfhowlett> kostodo, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade speed depends on your ISP [06:38] <kostodo> Gotcha [06:38] <kostodo> 129MB of archives [06:39] <kostodo> Thanks for the help fellas [06:39] <tianzuo> halo [06:39] <tianzuo> 有人能看懂中文么 [06:39] <cfhowlett> !cn | tianzuo [06:43] <Bartistic> prica li neko srpsko hrvatsko slovenacki ovdje? [06:43] <indar> hello everybody ^_^ [06:44] <tianzuo> yes [06:44] <tianzuo> halo [06:44] <cfhowlett> Bartistic, english only in channel please. [06:44] <cfhowlett> tianzuo, english only in channel please. [06:44] <Bartistic> cfhowlett, No problem. Just trying to check if anyone speaks my language :) sorry [06:45] <indar> ada yang dari Indonesia? [06:45] <cfhowlett> !pl | bartistic there is a channel :) [06:45] <cfhowlett> indar, english in this channel, please. [06:45] <Bartistic> cfhhowell, went there, I was the only one in it :D [06:45] <indar> I'm sorry :) [06:46] <cfhowlett> Bartistic, yeah that happens sometimes [06:46] <cfhowlett> !id | indar [06:48] <indar> ubottu, terima kasih infonya. anda dari indonesia? [06:49] <logan__> ubottu, hello [06:49] <logan__> ?? [06:49] <indar> ubottu. oh, i think your Indonesian :) [06:51] <Bartistic> Is there a serbian channel? [06:51] <Bartistic> or craotian? [06:51] <cfhowlett> Bartistic, what languages?? [06:51] <Bartistic> Serbian, croatian [06:51] <daftykins> ask ubottu [06:52] <cfhowlett> !alis | Bartistic, [06:53] <bookpage> is the + in the version of a package name mean anything special? [06:53] <bookpage> like "5.5.42+maria-1~precise" [06:53] <logan__> !iamfamous | #thevillage [06:54] <cfhowlett> !rs | bartistic [06:54] <cfhowlett> !hr | bartistic [07:02] <quarters> is there a way to actually learn how to use apt-get without going through either poring over manuals without much practical yield or through blindly going through the motions and using commands as they arise? [07:02] <quarters> because it seems I'm doing one or the other but not quite developing an intuitive sense of how to use it [07:02] <somsip> quarters: are you trying to do something unusual? [07:03] <iptablesask> Hello im trying use iptables dns for only one user but i cant. All rest services works nice at user level, but dns restricted to one user not works :( [07:04] <quarters> somsip> I don't believe I am. I've just screwed up a couple installs of ubuntu through trying to compile a program by piecing together instructions and going through I believe it's called dependency hell and then took a year off and am thinking about trying to install ubuntu again and play with it [07:04] <somsip> quarters: mixing compiled apps, official repos (and unoffical repos) can cause problems. It's not recommended [07:05] <kostodo> Do I need to restart after dist-upgrade? [07:05] <daftykins> kostodo: if it pulls in a newer kernel, yes - hopefully you get -49 now [07:05] <iptablesask> There is a particular user at ubuntu wich controls dns and if not get dns port open rest of users not have access ? [07:05] <somsip> kostodo: you probably have kernel changes, so yes. but maybe not. [07:05] <daftykins> quarters: there really aren't that many different commands to learn for apt-get, the best advice i can give is to use a notebook to make notes of commands you learn as a personal reference - and avoid GUI package managers to stick at the same CLI tools approach. and yeah... don't compile if you can avoid it. [07:05] <kostodo> Yep I see 49 there [07:05] <kostodo> I'll restart [07:06] <cfhowlett> quarters, issue the command in terminal: apt=get [07:06] <__dan_> is it possible to reinstall ubuntu without clearing my home dir [07:06] <cfhowlett> apt-get [07:06] <cfhowlett> and read the details [07:07] <cfhowlett> !home | __dan_ if you have a dedicated /home, yes. if you only avoid formatting /home, MAYBE [07:08] <__dan_> i have everything on an encrypted LVM [07:09] <quarters> somsip> so compiling programs from source is probably not recommended as daftykins advised? [07:10] <rgb-one> *that* [07:10] <indar> i need help [07:10] <rgb-one> **that** [07:10] <quarters> because doing so generally inevitably leads to mixing unofficial repos and officals ones [07:10] <somsip> quarters: if it's something that has dependencies that are normally handled by apt-get, it can get ugly. Compiling simple, standalone packages with few deps can be fine [07:11] <daftykins> indar: step 1 is describing what in the form of a question [07:13] <quarters> I thought that one of linux's biggest selling points was its openness, encouraging users to compile programs from source [07:13] <quarters> at least that's what got my attention [07:13] <somsip> quarters: you can do it. It doesn't mean it's easy [07:13] <daftykins> when you're using a package management based distribution you should use packages primarily [07:14] <robninjadude1> guys got a problem i can update my ubuntu install, keep saying 404 error, ip not found on all the repositories and i can down load any new packages from the net or by command line,,,, and i do have internet ecess [07:14] <robninjadude1> i cant update [07:14] <daftykins> if you compile, you're doing it wrong - and you're gonna have a bad time. [07:14] <daftykins> robninjadude1: sounds like your DNS or networking is misconfigured. check you can resolve domains via dig or nslookup [07:15] <robninjadude1> could you give me a few terminal commands to do ill relay back the info.. [07:15] <daftykins> "nslookup archive.ubuntu.com" [07:15] <robninjadude1> k [07:16] <robninjadude1> ok and what from here am i looking for i get the IP of each there.. [07:17] <daftykins> alright, so now run "sudo apt-get update" and tell us what mirror is 404'ing [07:17] <robninjadude1> ok [07:18] <robninjadude1> one of many [IP: 91.189.91.24 80] [07:18] <robninjadude1> 404 [07:18] <daftykins> i was more expecting an address than an IP [07:18] <daftykins> perhaps pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list [07:18] <robninjadude1> Err http://security.ubuntu.com raring-security/restricted i386 Packages [07:18] <robninjadude1> 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.24 80] [07:19] <robninjadude1> sorry [07:19] <daftykins> ah-ha. [07:19] <daftykins> right, raring is a very very dead ubuntu release [07:19] <daftykins> can you run "cat /etc/issue" ? [07:19] <robninjadude1> ok how do i fix puter... lol [07:19] <robninjadude1> ill try [07:20] <engblom> Is there a way to get apt-get to automatically always install the *-dev packages. For example if libjpeg gets installed, I would it to automatically also install the libjpeg-dev package. [07:21] <robninjadude1> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l [07:21] <daftykins> !13.04 [07:21] <daftykins> so you're running an OS that's been dead for 15 months [07:21] <robninjadude1> i get it bad bad... lol [07:21] <daftykins> you'll need to upgrade to a supported release [07:21] <robninjadude1> its been a bit of time [07:21] <robninjadude1> how from this point [07:22] <robninjadude1> i am using the buntu version of ubuntu studio, [07:22] <daftykins> to be quite honest with a version that old, backup and clean install. [07:22] <logan__> !50cent [07:22] <robninjadude1> ;/ [07:22] <robninjadude1> hmmm... k [07:23] <daftykins> it'll save you a lot of hassle. [07:23] <robninjadude1> well...could you point me in the direction of the ubuntu studio install ISO [07:23] <robninjadude1> curren what ever [07:24] <daftykins> no i don't fetch links i'm afraid, you have a brain for that yourself :) [07:24] <robninjadude1> ok .... [07:24] <robninjadude1> got time for a few more questions [07:24] <robninjadude1> simple ones [07:24] <daftykins> fire away, there are others besides me too [07:25] <robninjadude1> what the hell happened to the window manager Awesome.....not avaliable anymore.... design? [07:25] <somsip> !info awesomewm | robninjadude1 [07:25] <robninjadude1> awww.... lame [07:26] <somsip> hmm. I thought that was right [07:26] <somsip> !info awesome [07:26] <robninjadude1> i was going o try and build a hacky and slim verstion linux....that was my goto WM [07:26] <somsip> robninjadude1: ah - maybe renamed without the wm [07:27] <somsip> robninjadude1: I would recommend installing the minimal ISO then installing your WM of choice on that and it'll pull in X, etc [07:27] <daftykins> that'd bypass the desire for studio i suspect [07:27] <somsip> daftykins: it would be an entirely different kettle of fish [07:27] <robninjadude1> i got the minimal iso, but the terminal commands for aweome i cant find [07:28] <somsip> robninjadude1: sudo apt-get install awesome [07:28] <robninjadude1> dugh... lol [07:28] <daftykins> it is a good thing penguins like fish. [07:28] <robninjadude1> and it still avaliable from its source? [07:28] <robninjadude1> so a apt-get works? [07:28] <somsip> robninjadude1: it's source? Use the official repo when you can, though it is on an older minor version. There is a PPA but I wouldn't recommend it unless it's much more awesomer [07:29] <robninjadude1> lol [07:29] <robninjadude1> k [07:29] <somsip> robninjadude1: Link with previous warning applying http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/06/install-latest-awesome-window-manager-ubuntu/ [07:30] <robninjadude1> one last question before i get spam warnings, is there ISO for minimal that can use the wifi, i dont have hard line [07:30] <daftykins> no. [07:30] <robninjadude1> more lamers [07:30] <robninjadude1> lol [07:30] <daftykins> were i judging i would call someone without a network cable a tad lame *whistle* [07:31] <coolstar-pc> robninjadude1:don't have ethernet? [07:31] <robninjadude1> lol.....i dont want to go down the hall and steal my Grandma's 360 cable [07:31] <daftykins> grandma can stop playing call of duty for an hour [07:31] <robninjadude1> i do, just [07:31] <robninjadude1> exactly, exept she plays stupid RPG's [07:32] <robninjadude1> seriously, 86 and a bigger gamer then me [07:33] <robninjadude1> the stacks of game manuals we just had to toss cuase she is a horder threw my back out [07:33] <robninjadude1> are you guys savy with bash? [07:33] <somsip> robninjadude1: ask, but if it's too technical it belongs in #bash [07:33] <daftykins> #bash are even better, though i hear they eat stupid question askers for breakfast [07:34] <robninjadude1> i tried honest, but a poop head in there is kinda making it difficult to get info, [07:34] <robninjadude1> ill keep searching on googles for it [07:34] <somsip> robninjadude1: well ask, but we might not know [07:35] <robninjadude1> ok [07:35] <robninjadude1> ill get a paste bin [07:36] <robninjadude1> http://pastebin.com/4SDv1UJT [07:37] <somsip> robninjadude1: is there a question about this? [07:37] <robninjadude1> ok thats what i am working with right now, i need to know how to basicaly loop back to the top of main interpritastion and restart the ask for user input [07:37] <robninjadude1> right now i am opening another terminal and caling the scrip again... [07:37] <daftykins> you don't even have a shebang [07:38] <robninjadude1> but thats creates a infinate loop and floods my screen with terminal windows [07:39] <robninjadude1> i just cut and pasted a section not the whole deal [07:39] <robninjadude1> is there a way to simply force a close of the sript and the terminal window, and start another [07:39] <Guest17468> Hi [07:40] <robninjadude1> or a more eligant way inside to loop [07:41] <robninjadude1> this is a start of a way to get my linux to talk to me [07:41] <robninjadude1> lol [07:43] <robninjadude1> did i totaly blow minds? [07:44] <daftykins> mostly with how you're still on raring, really :) [07:44] <robninjadude1> lol [07:44] <robninjadude1> k [07:44] <robninjadude1> haha [07:44] <daftykins> go sort that out. [07:45] <robninjadude1> honestly i have been working in windows to do music production for a bit and now i am back on here to work on this project and some mucis stuff here... [07:45] <daftykins> yeah ok, it's strictly support in here though robninjadude1 - no life stories please :) [07:46] <robninjadude1> daftykins: in the minimal iso it goes through selecting Wm's process right? as additional software? [07:47] <somsip> robninjadude1: my fault for inviting the question about bash. Help cn be given for simple stuff, but you need #bash for that script [07:47] <robninjadude1> k [07:47] <robninjadude1> thank you though [07:49] <iBurley> Is Lubuntu 15.04 shipping with LXQt? [08:17] <xyzwhatever> when has ubuntu become so crappy [08:19] <jzp113> hi [08:19] <jzp113> some guys play proxmark3? [08:19] <b00b00> hi [08:19] <nrdb> does anyone know of a way to boot from ZFS that actually works for 14.04 the one writeup I found doesn't [08:19] <jzp113> I find my download is too slow in github [08:19] <b00b00> i installed vnc server on ubuntu, and when connecting and clicking a few chars like "s", it bringing menu, how can i get rid of that? [08:19] <lotuspsychje> !zfs | nrdb [08:21] <lotuspsychje> b00b00: be carefull with vnc for security reasons [08:22] <lotuspsychje> xyzwhatever: your experience does not affect ubuntu [08:24] <nrdb> lotuspsychje, I tried this https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem but it desn't boot ... grub doesn't install. [08:25] <lotuspsychje> nrdb: maybe the #zfs guys can help you more with it, never played with it myself [08:26] <nrdb> lotuspsychje, maybe I will give them a try. [08:27] <beatlejuice> . [08:32] <b00b00> lotuspsychje: thanks, i dont care about security that case, what can i do with what i asked? [08:33] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | b00b00 [08:33] <__dan_> so uhh [08:33] <__dan_> i tried reinstalling 14.04 [08:33] <__dan_> it failed to partition my drive [08:33] <__dan_> now it can't see it at all [08:33] <lotuspsychje> b00b00: can you tell us what your vnc purpose is? [08:34] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: did you check if your hd is still healthy? [08:34] <__dan_> how? [08:34] <__dan_> partition table totally wiped [08:34] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: in bios perhaps, see if drive still shows us [08:34] <lotuspsychje> up [08:35] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: ddi you have ubuntu before? [08:36] <__dan_> yes it was working before [08:36] <__dan_> bios not seeing the drive now [08:37] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: what brand is your Hd, maybe you can use a testcdrom with hd test suite or something to check the hd [08:37] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: some brands offer speciliazed software cdroms to test them [08:38] <__dan_> corsair [08:38] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: ssd? [08:39] <__dan_> yes [08:39] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: doublecheck if your bios is set from IDE to AHCI [08:40] <__dan_> its set to native ide [08:40] <__dan_> should i try amd_ahci mode? [08:40] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: ssd require to AHCI yes [08:41] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: then retry your ubuntu install [08:42] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: if your system is uefi and you want only ubuntu, disable fastboot and secureboot also [08:42] <__dan_> disk still not detected in bios [08:43] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: hmm your sata cables connected properly? [08:43] <jzp113> hi guys cmdhfmfu.c:12:25: fatal error: openssl/des.h how to solve that? [08:43] <__dan_> didnt touch anything [08:43] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: it would be unlikely your ssd is dead [08:43] <__dan_> let me try hooking it up to a diff computer [08:43] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: never seen an ssd die before :p [08:45] <k1l> if its not recognized in bios there is nothing ubuntu can do afterwards. [08:46] <lotuspsychje> jzp113: maybe the ##openssl guys might know that error? [08:47] <__dan_> yep this computer sees the disk still [08:47] <jzp113> lotuspsychje, thanks I solve it which i forget install libssl-dev [08:47] <lotuspsychje> !yay | jzp113 [08:48] <jzp113> lotuspsychje, ubottu thank google and stackoverflow [08:48] <__dan_> ok deleted all partitions from here [08:48] <__dan_> will try again on server [08:48] <jzp113> do you know proxmark3? [08:53] <tr3nton> I'm trying run a command that redirects stdout to a file, redirects stderr to a file, (separate files) but also display both on the console.. Is this possible? [08:54] <muzy> tr3nton: try to see whether "tee" works for you [08:54] <b00b00> lotuspsychje: ubuntu test desktop machine [08:54] <muzy> this works at least for stdin [08:54] <__dan_> it still doesn't show in bios setup screen [08:54] <__dan_> it shows on POST though [08:55] <__dan_> and now the installer finds it again [08:55] <__dan_> wtf [08:55] <tr3nton> muzy: yeah saw that.. i think that will only work if putting all in one file. e.g. 2>&1 | tee fileout [08:55] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: after set to AHCI you need a fresh install again [08:57] <__dan_> installer complains that volume group name is already in use [08:57] <__dan_> can't it just blow away the old stuff? [09:00] <muzy> tr3nton: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21465297/tee-stdout-and-stderr-to-separate-files-while-retaining-them-on-their-respective [09:01] <muzy> tr3nton: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/692000/how-do-i-write-stderr-to-a-file-while-using-tee-with-a-pipe [09:01] <muzy> those two answers there look promising (and so obvious m)) [09:02] <Nothing4You> hi [09:02] <tr3nton> muzy: good finds! Ty [09:02] <pillepalle27> ping [09:02] <muzy> tr3nton: you're welcome [09:06] <jzp113> hi [09:07] <jzp113> someone know hexedit? [09:07] <lotuspsychje> !info hexedit | jzp113 [09:08] <ZuZuu> Hello everybody, still have a problem on upstart Job with java (Could not reserve enough space for code cache) [09:08] <ZuZuu> The job work launch from a shell without any problems [09:09] <ZuZuu> A simple upstart job with "java -version" give me the same error message [09:09] <ZuZuu> Any idea ? [09:11] <lotuspsychje> ZuZuu: can this help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/162768/starting-java-processes-with-upstart [09:25] <Sar_aLL> hi, I'm using byobu in Debian jessie. to create a horizontal split I need to press shift + f2 but the shell returns a tilde (~). I'm using bash. does anyone have the same problem? In debian wheezy I don't have this problem [09:30] <ZuZuu> No its doesnt help but thanks ! [09:32] <fuzzy_id> i have an (unknown) script running on my server which deletes /dev/null every now and then [09:32] <fuzzy_id> i do have a rough idea which script that could be [09:32] <fuzzy_id> but it consists of some obscure php code which i'm actually not willing to audit entirely [09:32] <fuzzy_id> now my idea was to put restrictions on the calling script via apparmor [09:33] <fuzzy_id> but i don't get the necessary profile right [09:33] <RtMF> fuzzy_id: ...wow [09:33] <RtMF> like...that tops my server issues so far [09:33] <fuzzy_id> yep [09:34] <fuzzy_id> very annoying [09:34] <fuzzy_id> i added ' deny /dev/foo w,' and '/dev/foo a,' to the profile but in the calling script i'm still able to touch and rm /dev/foo [09:35] <fuzzy_id> shouldn't apparmor forbid this? [09:43] <xyrezic> anybody know a good guide for setting up a pptpd on 14.10 ? [10:02] <vieira_> Hello, I am bit confused. I downloaded a daily build of the 15.04 server ISO but it looks like a netinstall although it has 600+MB [10:02] <vieira_> I cannot install without internet for instance... [10:02] <vieira_> and some kernel modules are missing, e.g. aacraid.ko [10:02] <vieira_> the desktop daily build does not have this problem [10:03] <vieira_> is this a known problem? [10:03] <DJones> vieira_: Its probably worth joining #ubuntu+1 and asking there, the people that have been testing should be able to advise you best [10:04] <__dan_> setting up lvm partition keeps failing [10:04] <vieira_> DJones: will do [10:07] <andrey> hello, is it possible to use wayland? [10:16] <bojan> When i am trying to build a code in monodevelop on ubuntu it is saying error as "#include <stdio.h> No such a file or directory...how to fix this issue?? [10:17] <jpds> bojan: install libc6-dev. [10:20] <bojan> jpds:okay [10:20] <bojan> jpds:let me install and check [10:20] <jpds> bojan: You might want to install 'build-essential' while you're at it. [10:21] <bojan> jpds:Yes i have installed that build-essential already [10:21] <MonkeyDust> !wayland | andrey [10:21] <mcphail> bojan: if you have build-essential you should already have the stdc header files [10:22] <bojan> Thmcphail:Then why it is saying that error [10:23] <mcphail> bojan: I haven't used monodevelop. Presumably it isn't telling the preprocessor to look in the right place for header files [10:23] <k1l> andrey: wayland is not really "production ready". so dont expect a regular daily use desktop. but you can use it if you want [10:24] <mcphail> bojan: although, that is pretty basic stuff and you'd think it would look in the standard locations by default [10:25] <mcphail> bojan: you do have it set up for a C project rather than C#? [10:26] <momi> alguien me puede decir esto que es???? [10:26] <momi> lo he visto ahora [10:26] <k1l> !es | momi [10:27] <momi> dime kl [10:27] <momi> k1 [10:27] <momi> me puedes decir que es esto???? [10:27] <k1l> momi: this is an english channel [10:28] <momi> solo se habla en ingles???? [10:28] <momi> pero para que se entra [10:28] <momi> os cuento [10:28] <momi> soy la esposa de momi [10:28] <momi> y he visto esto en el pc [10:28] <momi> y me gustaría saber para que sirve esto [10:29] <MonkeyDust> !es [10:29] <emapaere> who is here [10:30] <redpoppies> hello [10:31] <emapaere> novice here. have no idea hw this works. help!!!!! [10:32] <hateball> !ask | emapaere [10:32] <chotaz`w> emapaere, please start by stating your problem :) [10:33] <emapaere> have no idea how the whore irc works [10:34] <chotaz`w> you join channels by topics and then follow the guidelines provided by the topic and the server. Anyways this is an help channel, for offtopic we have #ubuntu-offtopic [10:39] <andrey> k1l: ok thanks [10:54] <SomeT> I have a dilemma, my college asked me to specifically install a 32 bit version of ubuntu, I did that, no problem. Now they are asking me to investigate the minimum specs, the minimum specs for ubuntu 14.04 trusty tahr is 64 bit? Does anyone know of more accurate website that can give me a more accurate representation of the minimum specs for this version of ubuntu please? [10:56] <ironhoof> Hello I tried moving the mbrola voice files into a sub directory called voices using mv folder /voices I didn't think about it , but where did they go? [10:56] <TheNumb> SomeT: desktop? server? [10:57] <SomeT> desktop [10:57] <SomeT> sorry [10:57] <SomeT> i mean you have [10:57] <TheNumb> SomeT: with unity? [10:57] <SomeT> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements [10:57] <est31> hi I have a problem with apt-get update [10:57] <SomeT> you mean 14.04 bhy unity? [10:57] <est31> its writing: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/trusty-security/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found [10:57] <SomeT> investigate whether Ubuntu Linux 14.04 is a suitable replacement for Windows XP on older hardware. [10:57] <SomeT> thats what they ask [10:57] <Areks> hello guys, can u resize root patition "/" withou reinstall or booting from live cd? [10:58] <SomeT> specifically that version of ubuntu [10:58] <SomeT> so would i be safe to just use: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements [10:58] <SomeT> as a means of 14.04 desktop versiob? [10:58] <Ben64> SomeT: windows xp is no longer supported, i'd wager any supported OS would be better [10:58] <est31> Areks, see here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24027/how-can-i-resize-an-ext-root-partition-at-runtime [10:58] <TheNumb> SomeT: those requirements look a little bit dated. [10:59] <est31> but shrinking is not supported Areks [10:59] <lord4163> ironhoof: to /voices [10:59] <ironhoof> lord4163 the voices sub folder i made is empty [11:00] <Areks> est31: mm what should i read? [11:00] <TheNumb> SomeT: the requirements vary for various desktop environments. [11:00] <lord4163> ironhoof: it should be in /voices directly in your root filesystem. [11:00] <Areks> est31: there are few answers [11:00] <SomeT> how do I pin it down to that version though TheNumb? [11:00] <SomeT> thats what I need to do [11:00] <SomeT> preferbly 32 bit [11:00] <SomeT> as what they are asking does not make sense for a 64 bit machine [11:01] <est31> Areks, do you want to shrink or enlarge? [11:01] <Areks> est31: enlarge [11:02] <Ben64> SomeT: what is your actual question [11:02] <est31> Areks, see this answer http://askubuntu.com/a/119458 [11:02] <MonkeyDust> SomeT 64bit software can be used on 64bit hardware... 32bit software can be used on both 32bit and 64bit hardware [11:02] <SomeT> well thhey want me to find requirements for a old 32 bit machine [11:02] <k1l> Areks: its more safe and easy to just boot a live cd/usb [11:03] <Areks> est31: The filesystem is already 5119744 blocks long. Nothing to do! [11:03] <Areks> if i tried resize2fs /dev/sda1 [11:03] <ironhoof> lord4163: There doesn't seem to be a voices in / [11:03] <Areks> k1l: i can't [11:03] <SomeT> would U be safe to use:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Ubuntu_Desktop_Edition [11:03] <SomeT> for version 14.04? [11:03] <SomeT> trust tahr version [11:03] <Nimms> Areks, it's because you also need to enlarge the partition. [11:03] <est31> Areks, why can'T you boot live cds? [11:03] <MonkeyDust> SomeT are you in ubuntu now? [11:04] <k1l> Areks: dont mix partitions and filesystems. [11:04] <est31> ^ [11:05] <Areks> est31: because it's hosting not mine PC [11:05] <lord4163> ironhoof: what's the command you ran? [11:06] <est31> Areks, see the answer I've sent you above, that contains what to do with fdisk [11:06] <k1l> Areks: so you have a recovery or hosting-solution to boot? use that then [11:06] <ironhoof> lord4163: I ran first sudo mkdir voices in mbrola which worked, then I sudo mv en1 /voices [11:07] <Sohail-Ahmed> a .deb package is the one which is included in the standard Debian distribution. Does the packages that are included in the repositories are also .deb packges? Would some body please help me? [11:07] <lord4163> ironhoof: that should not work because there is no such folder on your system you said [11:08] <ironhoof> lord4163: There isnt but the folder vanished all the same [11:08] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: ubuntu used .deb packages too. what is your issue? [11:09] <lord4163> ironhoof: lets say you create a folder in your home folder (/home/ironhoof) and you have a file there you want to move into your newly created folder you will execute `mv file newlyCreatedFolder` [11:09] <Areks> k1l: hmm, recovery [11:09] <lord4163> ironhoof: without the sudo, because you have permission to write inside your own home folder [11:09] <ironhoof> lord4163: Okay its not yours or my fault, apparently the file browser doesnt show this newly created folder until you close all instances of the file browser. I closed them all, and reopened there is NOW a /voices [11:10] <lord4163> ironhoof: oh hm... [11:10] <ironhoof> I should be able to safely move these back, and delete /voices [11:11] <Sohail-Ahmed> k1l: Thanks for repsonding! I know .deb packages can be installed by dpkg and in dpkg my interest is its additional functionality of installing at your desired location, instead of the default one. In summary I want to know whetther octave is a .deb or not? [11:12] <lord4163> ironhoof: then there is something wrong with your file manager, it should automatically update - nautilus at least. [11:13] <bojan> When i am trying to execute a code in mplabx_ide on ubuntu it is showing error as /bin/sh:5:exec:make not found...How to solve this issue?? [11:13] <lord4163> bojan: install make :) [11:13] <lord4163> bojan: sudo apt-get install build-essential [11:14] <bojan> lord4163:build-essential is installed already and how to install make?? [11:14] <ironhoof> lord4163 yea its doing it now it must of been a glitch, but thanks for sending me in the right direction [11:14] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: i dont understand your issue. you have a octave.deb? or do you want one? [11:14] <lord4163> bojan: hm, make is part of that meta-package, seems like your IDE just can't find it [11:14] <Sohail-Ahmed> k1l: Yes I want one, if its available. [11:14] <lord4163> bojan: what does `which make` say? [11:15] <k1l> !info octave | Sohail-Ahmed [11:15] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: its in the repos. so you can use apt-get to install it [11:16] <lord4163> ironhoof: sure no problem :-) [11:16] <Sohail-Ahmed> k1l: thats my point. I don't want the octave from apt-get, since it does not allow me to install it at my desired location. [11:16] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: what is your "desired location" then? [11:16] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed you can apt-get download it and then move it to where you want [11:17] <Sohail-Ahmed> k1l: not the default one. [11:17] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed or is it apt-download, i forget the exact syntax [11:17] <bojan> lord4163:I dont have a package for that [11:17] <k1l> MonkeyDust: afaik it will install to the paths given in the .deb. which is the standard paths [11:17] <bojan> lord4163:How to search which make [11:17] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: details matter [11:17] <lord4163> bojan: In your terminal execute: `which make` [11:17] <Sohail-Ahmed> MonkeyDust: so you mean sudo apt-get download octave or sudo apt-download would download the package but where?? [11:18] <bojan> lord4163:nothing happended [11:18] <Sohail-Ahmed> k1l: let us say in my home directory [11:18] <lord4163> Sohail-Ahmed: cache is stored inn /var? [11:18] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed in the folder where you're in, then you take it where you want [11:18] <lord4163> Sohail-Ahmed: Why do you want to install it to your home? [11:18] <lord4163> Sohail-Ahmed: what's the reason for that? [11:18] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: i dont understand the reason behind that. a regular install is the easiest way and works. [11:19] <hateball> Perhaps one is trying to work around permissions [11:19] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed ok, it's sudo apt-get download [package] ... just tried it [11:19] <Sohail-Ahmed> lord4163, k1l I want it to be installed in home/sohail/anaconda. Since in this way I can make it available under anaconda installtion. [11:19] <sveinse> I'm trying to debootrsap vivid from utopic (debootstrap --variant=minbase vivid), but it fails with "Invalid release signature (key id 40976EAF437D05B5)". Any ideas? debootstrapping jessie worked fine [11:20] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed i just explained how to do it [11:20] <Sohail-Ahmed> MonkeyDust: thanks I will try it. But to make sure before downloading it, would I be having any executatble file to let me specify the location??? [11:21] <lord4163> MonkeyDust: apt-get requires root permissions whatsoever right? [11:21] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed you can use cp or mv to place the deb somewhere else [11:21] <MonkeyDust> lord4163 yes, apt-get required sudo, apt-cache does not [11:21] <EriC^^> lord4163: apt-get download doens't need permissions i think [11:21] <lord4163> okay [11:21] <hateball> There's no root needed to apt-get download and then perhaps dpkg --unpack. It's asking for trouble however [11:22] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: i would suggest to use symlinks or to get anaconda to be installed properly. but here are some workarounds to your way of setting that up: http://askubuntu.com/a/236149/31260 [11:22] <Sohail-Ahmed> MonkeyDust: I understand that but the download is not enough, I want to install it too. [11:22] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed install it with dpkg or with the gui [11:23] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed or you want it *installed* somewhere else? don't know how to do that [11:23] <Sohail-Ahmed> MonkeyDust: So you are confirming that any package thats downloaded with sudo apt-download .. is a .deb package, since only then I can use dpkg. Correct??? [11:24] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed just found out, "apt-get download" does not require sudo [11:24] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: why doesnt anaconda look into $PATH and use the official ubuntu octave? [11:24] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed yes, apt-get download downloaded the .deb [11:24] <Sohail-Ahmed> MonkeyDust: I dont know what is there mechnism to install. Though I can install python packges where ever I want using --prefix. and I also know that debian packges [11:25] <Sohail-Ahmed> MonkeyDust: debian package's installtion location is controlled by dpkg [11:25] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed yes [11:25] <lord4163> Sohail-Ahmed: then dpkg-deb -x package.deb /home/sohail/anaconda [11:25] <MonkeyDust> dpkg means debian package [11:25] <Sohail-Ahmed> k1l: since anconda is not installed with sudo [11:25] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: that doesnt matter [11:26] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed you lost me, i no longer get waht you want or are trying to do [11:26] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: fix anaconda to us the right path instead of messing with the ubuntu system because anaconda makes a problem [11:27] <Sohail-Ahmed> Just please confirm that the packge downloaded by sudo apt-download would be a .deb packge correct?????????/ [11:27] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed yes, it's a .deb file [11:28] <bojan> lord4163:Sorry internet disconnected..Tell me now [11:33] <theGhoul21> Hello [11:33] <theGhoul21> I am having some problems with a ubuntu install [11:34] <theGhoul21> Right after pressing Install now [11:34] <theGhoul21> The system froze [11:34] <theGhoul21> The mouse moves of few pixels every now and then [11:35] <theGhoul21> I was trying to install a dual boot with windows 8 [11:35] <theGhoul21> I don't want to lose all my win data [11:35] <theGhoul21> Someone has suggestions? [11:35] <bojan> hi i have installed mplab is IDE tool on ubuntu..Whn i am trying to build the program its saying error as :http://paste.ubuntu.com/10865598/"...Can anyone please help me to solve thisissue?? [11:36] <bojan> sorry rthe link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/10865598/ [11:37] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all [11:39] <Nimms> theGhoul21, "Install now" when you are in the boot menu or in the graphic installer? [11:39] <p34k> trolling is a art [11:39] <theGhoul21> Graphic installer [11:41] <Nimms> theGhoul21, does it reach the "Preparing to install Ubuntu" stage at all? [11:41] <theGhoul21> Nimms, nope [11:41] <MonkeyDust> theGhoul21 make a backup first, of your windows files, so you won't lose anything, if things go wrong [11:42] <theGhoul21> It s a bit late:/ [11:42] <__dan_> ok i did a non lvm partition on the install menu this time [11:42] <__dan_> now it's hung on creating ext4 file system [11:42] <Nimms> theGhoul21, maybe the problem is in your network adapter. [11:43] <theGhoul21> I have a WiFi card [11:43] <theGhoul21> On my desktop [11:45] <Nimms> theGhoul21, can you tell the model? [11:45] <theGhoul21> Tp link something [11:46] <Nimms> theGhoul21, OK, when it hangs, can you switch to another virtual console? [11:46] <theGhoul21> Nimms is there a way to start the terminal to see what is going on? Keyboard and mouse are not responding btw [11:46] <Nimms> Ctrl+Alt+F1 [11:47] <theGhoul21> Nimms nothing happens [11:47] <Nimms> Give me a minute then. [11:47] <theGhoul21> Nimms thank you sir, you deserve my esteem [11:48] <bojan> hi i have installed mplab is IDE tool on ubuntu..Whn i am trying to build the program its saying error as :http://paste.ubuntu.com/10865598/ ...Can anyone please help me to solve thisissue?? [11:51] <hateball> bojan: sudo apt-get install build-essential [11:52] <bojan> hateball:Its installed already [11:53] <yorwos> hi all , so 15.05 coming tomorrow yes ? im excited [11:53] <Ben64> 15.04, and most likely [11:53] <ioria> bojan, 32 or 64 bit ? [11:54] <hateball> bojan: on their website it states it needs 32-bit libs [11:54] <bojan> ioria:b4 bit [11:54] <hateball> usually there is a README included that tells you which libs you need, install the i386 versions of those [11:54] <ioria> bojan, it's a problem.... [11:54] <bojan> iroria:can u tell me [11:55] <bojan> iroria:what is the problem?? [11:55] <ioria> bojan, you need compatibility library [11:55] <jpds> bojan: sudo apt-get install make [11:56] <bojan> jpds:make also showing installed [11:58] <ioria> bojan sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 ia32-libs what says ? [12:04] <Pandabob> hey anyone around? [12:04] <EriC^^> be vewy vewy quiet.. [12:05] <EriC^^> what's up? [12:05] <Pandabob> i set up apache on ubuntu and everything was working but the power cord got unplugged [12:06] <Pandabob> i restarted and now nothing works [12:06] <EriC^^> what do you mean by nothing works? [12:06] <Pandabob> it connects to the wifi but is unreachable now [12:06] <Pandabob> doesn't serve out webpages externally [12:06] <emapaere> how can i install java on ubuntu? [12:06] <Pandabob> anymore [12:07] <OerHeks> !java | emapaere [12:07] <Pandabob> i think maybe cos it didn't shut down properly [12:07] <Pandabob> actually i have no idea [12:07] <Pandabob> i just want to cry [12:07] <Pandabob> and throw it out the window [12:07] <SchrodingersScat> Pandabob: it's possible, pull from backups or reinstall? [12:07] <Pandabob> i didn't have time to backup [12:08] <Pandabob> this will be the third reinstall [12:08] <Pandabob> i'm just over it [12:09] <Pandabob> how would you back it up anyway? [12:09] <Pandabob> just out of curiosity [12:09] <Pandabob> an image? [12:09] <MonkeyDust> Pandabob don't hit the enter key too often, it's getting a headache [12:09] <Pandabob> o [12:09] <Pandabob> really? [12:10] <Pandabob> you think so [12:10] <Pandabob> hmm [12:10] <Pandabob> i'll take it into consideration [12:10] <Pandabob> i guess [12:10] <EriC^^> Pandabob: try to reinstall apache2, the config files will stay ( i think ) i just tried it [12:10] <ioria> i see [12:10] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache2 [12:10] <Pandabob> ok eric [12:10] <Pandabob> thanks [12:11] <ioria> Pandabob, but can you ping anything else, like 8.8.8.8 ? [12:11] <Pandabob> yeah it's connected to the router but unreachable on lan [12:11] <Pandabob> so yers [12:11] <ioria> Pandabob, but can you ping the router ? [12:11] <Pandabob> obviously [12:12] <EriC^^> do other stuff work? like can you ssh in or so? [12:12] <Pandabob> no ftp [12:12] <Pandabob> no ssh [12:12] <Pandabob> no http [12:12] <EriC^^> so it's not to do with apache [12:12] <Pandabob> i suspect my network [12:12] <ioria> Pandabob, try to ping www.google.com ... maybe it's resolv [12:12] <swifty14> when ubuntu 15.04 released? [12:13] <Pandabob> yeah it pings google [12:14] <ioria> Pandabob, browser is working ? [12:14] <MonkeyDust> swifty14 tomorrow, time depends on your timezone [12:14] <Pandabob> yeah internet is working [12:14] <ioria> Pandabob, so it's apache [12:15] <bazhang> !party [12:15] <Pandabob> alright i'm going now to reinstall it [12:15] <bazhang> utopic! [12:17] <ioria> Pandabob, it's not apache , imeant, sorry [12:17] <Pandabob> i'm gonna try it anyway [12:17] <Pandabob> it's easy enough to reinstall [12:18] <Pandabob> won't take too long [12:18] <ioria> Pandabob, are you using some global configuring interface ... le ISPConfig ? [12:19] <Pandabob> don't think so [12:19] <swifty> when newest ubuntu come out [12:19] <Ben64> tomorrow probably [12:19] <Pandabob> as i don't know what it is [12:19] <bazhang> the 23rd [12:20] <geirha> Soon(tm) [12:20] <ioria> Pandabob, check if sshd and the ftp server service are running [12:20] <Pandabob> no sftp isn't [12:21] <Pandabob> err [12:21] <Pandabob> ftp [12:21] <ioria> Pandabob, and sshd ? ps -A [12:21] <EriC^^> Pandabob: is apache running? [12:21] <Pandabob> yeah apache is running [12:22] <ioria> Pandabob, restart them all [12:22] <Pandabob> i can't remember which ftp service i installed [12:22] <ioria> Pandabob, usually, sftp, or vsftp or pureftp.... depen ds [12:23] <Mion> Pandabob: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie [12:23] <Pandabob> yeah i use sftp [12:23] <Pandabob> but [12:23] <Pandabob> i can't remember [12:23] <Pandabob> which one [12:23] <Pandabob> i installed [12:23] <Mion> sftp is not ftp [12:23] <Pandabob> look [12:23] <Pandabob> i don't want to argue with you [12:23] <Mion> at all [12:23] <Pandabob> ok? [12:23] <Mion> it uses ssh [12:24] <ioria> Pandabob, check /etc/init.d/ [12:24] <Mion> and the most common ssh server is openssh [12:24] <Pandabob> is there a way to find out what you've installed [12:25] <Pandabob> with regards to ftp or ssh or whatever [12:25] <geirha> if you have sshd installed, you have sftp [12:26] <Pandabob> right ssh is running [12:26] <Pandabob> apache is running [12:26] <Pandabob> they just aren't working [12:26] <ioria> Pandabob, sudo service ssh restart [12:27] <zeon> h [12:27] <Pandabob> i like ubuntu it just never works for me [12:28] <Mion> define "not working" [12:29] <Pandabob> i set up apache and everything and get it working [12:29] <Pandabob> then when i restart the machine [12:29] <Pandabob> nothing works anymore [12:29] <ioria> Pandabob, what the command above says ? [12:30] <Pandabob> restart ssh is that what you're talking about? [12:30] <ioria> yep [12:31] <Pandabob> yeah it's still the same [12:31] <Pandabob> not working anymore [12:32] <ioria> Pandabob, try sudo service ssh start and tell us the output [12:33] <Pandabob> start: job is already running: ssh [12:34] <welsh1lad> Afternoon all from Sunny UK Wales [12:35] <ioria> Pandabob, ps aux | grep ftp ? [12:35] <welsh1lad> So any one passed there LPI 101 looking for advice and tips [12:36] <Pandabob> angie 7926 0.0 0.0 4692 2028 pts/1 S+ 22:35 0:00 grep --color=auto ftp [12:36] <heapc0re> maybe you will have a problem with ne process itself just type "killall <..> " -> <process> [12:37] <ioria> Pandabob, dpkg -l | grep -i ftp | grep -i server ? [12:39] <Pandabob> dnsmasq-base 2.68-1 dns proxy and dhcp/tftp server [12:40] <Pandabob> openssh-sftp-server [12:40] <DammitJim> can you guys point me to good documentation for Ubuntu integration with AD and HOME folder on Ubuntu sharing with Windows Clients? [12:40] <Pandabob> 1:6..... secure shell [12:40] <DammitJim> I've read stuff about SSSD, but I it was for RedHat7 [12:41] <DammitJim> or is likewise-open what is recommended? I'm so confused [12:41] <Mion> DammitJim: official samba docs [12:41] <Fuchs> DammitJim: definitely sssd [12:42] <Fuchs> DammitJim: works so so so so so much better than samba/winbind, we use it in a professional / enterprise environment here [12:42] <DammitJim> Mion, I didn't see in the official samba docs anything about sssd [12:42] <DammitJim> Fuchs, do you have a link with documentation? I'm struggling 'cause I went the winbind route and I'm paying for it now [12:43] <welsh1lad> DammitJim - sernet-samba 4.1 you need for AD connectivity [12:43] <Fuchs> DammitJim: the home folder is the tricky part, we opted for having an actual local home folder (which is created via pam_mkdir on initial login), but technically you could mount the home folder via either nfs or cifs during login, given you'll have a valid kerberos ticket [12:43] <Fuchs> DammitJim: let me see if there is decent English one, we mainly used German documentation plus we have our own internal one [12:43] <DammitJim> thank you thank you!!! Fuchs [12:43] <DammitJim> welsh1lad, sernet-samba???? where do I get that from? How does that relate to sssd? [12:44] <Fuchs> DammitJim: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Enterprise/Authentication/sssd doesn't look too off but doesn't cover home mounting yet, let me see if I find more [12:45] <DammitJim> thanks Fuchs I've read this before... trying to remember what my roadblock was when implementing it [12:46] <Fuchs> DammitJim: http://www.lancaster.ac.uk/iss/tsg/unix-ad/ looks slightly more complete but still lacks home directories (as said, currently we don't mount these as well, on purpose. We don't want the full home on all servers, this doesn't make sense. But we are looking into it to have a home on the work client and the config files automatically mounted on servers) [12:47] <DammitJim> yeah, my disconnect is with the samba integration... I think that's where I had nowhere to go [12:47] <Fuchs> We are pondering using NFS instead, it's less of a pain [12:47] <DammitJim> but I wonder if I should stick to winbind since that is what Samba has documented? [12:47] <Fuchs> currently we do mount directories with kerberos, mind [12:47] <DammitJim> NFS where? [12:47] <Fuchs> just not the home [12:48] <welsh1lad> DammitJim - sernet-samba allows AD integration [12:48] <welsh1lad> its the stable release [12:48] <Fuchs> but that should be as trivial as entries in the //foo/bar /home/foo cifs users,rw,sec=krb5 0 0 form [12:48] <DammitJim> welsh1lad, can I apt-get install sernet-samba? [12:49] <welsh1lad> you will need to add there repo to your sources list [12:49] <DammitJim> welsh1lad, are you saying, to set up an nfs share? [12:49] <DammitJim> is it free? [12:49] <DammitJim> have you done the home directory thing with sernet-samba? [12:49] <welsh1lad> open source yes , [12:49] <DammitJim> open source doesn't mean free [12:50] <welsh1lad> I use it to join linux machines to AD , for user authentication and samba sharing with authentication from windows [12:50] <zamba> i want to clean up a home directory for all the clutter that comes from a user logging into X.. any suggestions? [12:50] <welsh1lad> http://www.enterprisesamba.com/samba/ [12:51] <DammitJim> welsh1lad, I'm on that page [12:51] <DammitJim> I got a lot of reading to do... [12:51] <Fuchs> DammitJim: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Identity_Management_Guide/configuring-automount.html uses their IPA, but you can easily just extract the autofs and sssd parts to do it with ubuntu and $whatever as well [12:51] <welsh1lad> also install krb5-user [12:52] <welsh1lad> as this handles username and password [12:52] <Fuchs> note that in all of these cases you have a cifs or nfs server somewhere with the homes on it. And I still wouldn't fully advise it [12:52] <welsh1lad> from the AD [12:52] <DammitJim> thanks guys [12:53] <DammitJim> I guess I'm going to have to read a lot and get my hands dirty [12:53] <welsh1lad> deb http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/3.6/debian squeeze main [12:53] <welsh1lad> add this to your sources list [12:53] <DammitJim> gotta get my bluetooth headphones working and close my door [12:55] <welsh1lad> anyone completed there lpi 101 [12:55] <welsh1lad> any advice ? [12:55] <bazhang> try #ubuntu-offtopic welsh1lad [12:56] <MonkeyDust> welsh1lad don't mix distro's, is my advice [12:56] <Guest95901> Hi. I a using ubuntu 14.04 and for a few days now I am experiencing random freezes out of nowhere, the last time it happened when scrolling down in a browser window. When this happens I can only move my mouse but cannot click anything, nor enter the console [12:56] <OerHeks> welsh1lad, best advise: do not mix debian and ubuntu sources. [12:56] <Guest95901> is this issue known? [12:57] <OerHeks> Guest95901, what browser? and what is running on that page, youtube ? [12:58] <Guest95901> OerHeks: firefox, but it was just a regular text window in JIRA [12:58] <ioria> Guest95901, nvidia driver ? [12:58] <Guest95901> the freeze happens in random places where you do not expect any high load or something... [12:58] <Guest95901> ioria: yes [12:59] <Guest95901> ioria: if you're asking for the version, how can I find out? [12:59] <ioria> Guest95901, maybe driver issue [13:01] <OerHeks> i am waiting for firefox 37.0.2 update, should be out days ago.. [13:01] <bazhang> !info firefox [13:01] <ioria> Guest95901, try dpkg -l | grep nvidia [13:01] <OerHeks> So yes, known issues with freezes and memory [13:02] <OerHeks> bazhang, it is out for Vivid, not for 12.04/14.04/14.10 [13:02] <bazhang> thanks OerHeks [13:04] <Guest95901> ioria: dpkg tells me that I have nvidia-304, nvidia-common, nvidia-current, nvidia-libopencl1-304, nvidia-opencl-icd-304 and nvidia-settings installed [13:04] <ioria> Guest95901, does the freeze happen only in FF ? [13:07] <deadmund> If I install ubuntu 15.04, can I choose to install KDE 4 or KDE 5? [13:07] <cq-aux> it's #lshw and google me matey [13:07] <hateball> deadmund: Yes [13:08] <OerHeks> deadmund, install kubuntu 15.04 :-) [13:08] <cq-aux> wow [13:08] <deadmund> hateball: How difficult is it? I'm assuming if I just install kubuntu-desktop (or just use a kubuntu 15.04 image) I'll get plasma 5 by default. How can I switch to KDE 4 if I hate it / it's too buggy? [13:09] <Guest95901> ioria: no, it also happens in other programs [13:09] <EriC^^> !info kde vivid [13:09] <Guest95901> ioria: like a java IDE [13:09] <hateball> deadmund: plasma 5 is indeed default [13:09] <cq-aux> we here like buggy [13:09] <cq-aux> glitchy [13:09] <cq-aux> twitchy [13:09] <cq-aux> allgoodz [13:09] <deadmund> !info kubuntu-desktop vivid [13:09] <deadmund> EriC^^: What are you looking for in that? [13:10] <EriC^^> !info kde-plasma-desktop vivid [13:10] <EriC^^> the version [13:10] <hateball> deadmund: I don't know how complicated it is to switch to a full KDE4 DE in 15.04. a bunch of stuff hasnt been ported to KF5 yet so I think most (all) of kde4 is still packaged for vivid as wel [13:11] <EriC^^> !info kde-plasma-desktop [13:11] <deadmund> hateball: Oh really? Can you be more specific? What parts are "5" and what parts are "4" [13:11] <hateball> deadmund: that said, I have been running 15.04 some months, no issues what so ever compared kde4 [13:11] <Guest95901> I don't find anything suspicious in my /var/log/kern.log when the freezes happen [13:11] <jeffreylevesque> can someone tell me why it's important to install guest additions? [13:11] <deadmund> hateball: oh really? Great news! [13:11] <ioria> Guest95901, check in lspci or lshw your video card and change/update your driver [13:12] <cq-aux> I like 4'z start button, but the rest can go to hell [13:12] <hateball> deadmund: silly things like chromium/other apps not having been ported to the new kwallet for instance, so you'll be running two versions of that... [13:12] <hateball> but it's transparent to the user mostly [13:12] <OerHeks> jeffreylevesque, it is only important if you want full screen/usb handling or sharing a folder on your host [13:12] <deadmund> jeffreylevesque: It just adds some features like easily moving the mouse in / out of the windows, sharing folders, better Graphics acceleration, etc [13:12] <k1l_> cq-aux: stop that ramblings in here. this channel is support only. [13:12] <jeffreylevesque> thank you :) [13:12] <deadmund> hateball: I see. Thanks for the information. [13:13] <cq-aux> k1-killer: sori dud [13:13] <cq-aux> e [13:13] <hateball> deadmund: the only bug I have stumbled on is one related to plasmashell and transmission-qt. but I mostly use a browser, steam, and a terminal so :) [13:13] <deadmund> jeffreylevesque: You can even go so far as having application windows from the virtual machine floating around on the host OS desktop (looking like they're running in the native host OS). Which is neat. [13:13] <jeffreylevesque> I'm just learning how to use vagrant [13:14] <jeffreylevesque> it's pretty trivial for the case of public base boxes [13:14] <jeffreylevesque> but, i forgot why guest additions were important other than the full screen [13:14] <jeffreylevesque> so, creating a mini wiki, for the future [13:15] <deadmund> jeffreylevesque: There is nothing "important" about it as far as I know. It only adds some features. [13:22] <Guest95901> ioria: ok, I am switching from nvidia204 to nvidia331, let's see if that helps. Thanks for your help up to now [13:43] <Horsemeds> Hi if im following these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MpichCluster Do I need to do step 1 on all nodes? [13:44] <MonkeyDust> Horsemeds is that a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server [13:44] <Gamodr> Hi everyone, how can I compile something for a LSB-release instead of ubuntu (e.g. LSB 4.0)? [13:44] <Gamodr> it's ubuntu 14.04, 64 bit [13:45] <Gamodr> And preferably, I would also like to optimize for XEON processors [13:45] <Horsemeds> MonkeyDust im trying to do this on some desktops with 14.04 [13:47] <ZuZuu> I have a problem on upstart Job with java (Could not reserve enough space for code cache) [13:47] <ZuZuu> A simple upstart job with "java -version" give me the same error message [13:48] <ZuZuu> And i have enough free memory - the job without upstart work well [13:48] <ZuZuu> Any idea guys ? [13:54] <Horsemeds> also in step 4 of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MpichCluster it says to alter fstab do i do this on all the nodes or just the master? [13:56] <aleks_> hi [13:56] <aleks_> Hi, I have problem with Chromium and Pepper Flash [13:56] <aleks_> if I check the version via Terminal, it says the latest version 17 [13:56] <aleks_> But if I check via chrome://plugins it says version 11 [13:56] <aleks_> If I check via www.whatismybrowser.com - it also says version 1 [13:57] <aleks_> version 11 [13:57] <aleks_> how do I fix this - it used to show correctly ? [13:57] <heapc0re> type sudo apt-get update [13:58] <aleks_> I tried that already, it did not help :( [13:58] <ph_> ok [13:58] <heapc0re> reinstall [13:58] <aleks_> re-install what ? Chromium ? [13:58] <aleks_> or Pepper Flash ? [13:58] <heapc0re> that you want to update [13:59] <MonkeyDust> aleks_ try html5 instead of flash youtube/com/html5 [13:59] <krabador> aleks_, update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install [13:59] <marcio> olar bom dia !1! [13:59] <MonkeyDust> aleks_ try html5 instead of flash youtube.com/html5 [13:59] <MonkeyDust> !br [13:59] <vahrama> irc.devcode.org [13:59] <marcio> oi [14:00] <aleks_> @krabador I am trying now. let me check. 10x [14:01] <aleks_> @krabador - it says I have 17.0.0.169 which is the latest available. I tried to restart Chromium but chromium still thinks It is version 11 [14:02] <aleks_> Shockwave Flash 11.2 r999 [14:03] <xangua> aleks_: sounds like you have installed both pepperflash and the netscape plugin [14:04] <aleks_> Hi @xangua - yes, both are installed. The netscape is used for Firefox and the other one for Chromium. But I have Xubuntu installed for months and it used to work fine before - not sure what went wrong [14:07] <thms> I want to do a server to server transfer. One I am connected with with SSH, the other I just have FTP access (its a backup storage) [14:07] <thms> How should I do this ? [14:08] <jpds> thms: rsync. [14:09] <thms> jpds: thanks [14:09] <heapc0re> you can install proftpd and use filezilla to manage your data which is a was more easyer ;) [14:09] <Angristan> Hi [14:10] <heapc0re> there are a lot of videos in youtube [14:10] <heapc0re> how to config [14:10] <jpds> heapc0re: I would take rsync over FTP, anyday. [14:11] <heapc0re> okay [14:12] <thms> heapc0re: I don't have a desktop on the SSH once [14:12] <thms> gonna use curlftpfs [14:14] <heapc0re> okay then it seems that there is a problem with using filezilla [14:18] <rt-03> hi [14:19] <thelongdark> is there any special sauce one needs to get a serial mouse to work in 14.04? the one how-to i saw said run inputattach but that just kind of sits there and hangs [14:23] <Guest1914> hi, i have a question, but may not be the right chat group. I'm having an issue with provisioning with vagrant onto a windows 2008 server, the recipes are executes but it fails on the executing the role assigned, anyone able to direct me in the right direction? [14:24] <MonkeyDust> Guest1914 why do you come to ubuntu support with a windows question? [14:24] <thegrreat> Guys is it possible to use a 2,5 laptop hard drive on my pc ? [14:24] <cfhowlett> Guest1914, ##windows is your channel [14:24] <MonkeyDust> Guest1914 try ##windows [14:24] <Guest1914> forgot to mention i'm running it from ubuntu desktop [14:25] <gingermouse> thegrreat: yes! Just need a mounting bracket [14:25] <thegrreat> The hard disk mounting in my pc is empty but the hard drive is smaller than the mounting thing but the connector fits perfectly [14:25] <OerHeks> Guest1914, try #vagrant [14:26] <Guest1914> basically will be provisioning both ubuntu and windows using vagrant in dev, with proxmox in pro [14:26] <thegrreat> Becuse it's smaller it's going to move around inside the pc if i move the pc. [14:26] <gingermouse> thegrreat: try an SSD mounting bracket for a PC. It's the same size as a 3.5" HDD and the SD bolts into it. [14:29] <gingermouse> *SSD [14:34] <reborn> which i should install ubuntu mate lts or 14.10? [14:35] <cfhowlett> reborn, depends on you. bleeding edge is bloody. your choice. [14:35] <MonkeyDust> reborn 14.10 will soon be dead, better stick to LTS [14:35] <gingermouse> Wait till tomorrow and install 15.04 [14:36] <reborn> tomorrow is released? [14:36] <gingermouse> Yeah [14:37] <reborn> okay, i heard ubuntu mate have a lots of positive. [14:37] <MonkeyDust> reborn i'm using it, yes, it's cool [14:38] <reborn> is ubuntu lts do have plank or only 15.04? [14:39] <gingermouse> Isn't plank an elementary OS thing? [14:39] <xangua> I guess you need to add a third party repository then [14:39] <reborn> yep [14:40] <MonkeyDust> what's plank [14:41] <reborn> similar to Docky [14:42] <xangua> it's just a dock [14:43] <reborn> okay, i am waiting until tomorrow, i hope everything is work out! [14:43] <lord4163> reborn: Ubuntu MATE is awesome, from version 15.04 it will be an official member of the Ubuntu family [14:44] <lord4163> reborn: I use the 14.04 version tho [14:45] <reborn> yeah, i was fall in love with gnome 2 it was really awesome but until ubuntu has to change too much unity, i was back to windows 7, but i decide to stick with xfce. [14:48] <elev> how do I chat with people? [14:48] <elev> how do I chat with people? [14:49] <reborn> this is for helping, or asking, or learning. [14:49] <petrvs> elev: you're doing it now [14:49] <xangua> elev you are chatting now, do you have an Ubuntu support question? [14:49] <elev> I mena like private chat [14:49] <elev> how can I provate chat [14:49] <EriC^^> elev: /query <nick> [14:49] <genii> elev: We currently see what you type here, but the area you're in is for Ubuntu support and not for general chatting. For that you might want to go to the #ubuntu-offtopic channel. [14:50] <Jakey2> how do i change my default browser to midori [14:50] <EriC^^> Jakey2: in what de? [14:50] <elev> msg [14:50] <Jakey2> EriC^^, lubuntu [14:51] <elev> ok [14:51] <MonkeyDust> Jakey2 is there no otion in the browser itself, that you can check? [14:51] <MonkeyDust> option* [14:51] <captainfantastic> when will ubuntu 15.04 come out? [14:51] <reborn> tomorrow [14:52] <Jakey2> MonkeyDust, not that i saw [14:52] <petrvs> Jakey2: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Questions#Change_default_browser [14:52] <Jakey2> thanks [14:53] <petrvs> captainfantastic: http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/vivid/ [14:53] <EriC^^> Jakey2: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser [14:54] <Jakey2> it seems chrome is in auto mode [14:54] <Jakey2> and midori in manual mode [14:54] <captainfantastic> petrvs: I guess I'll just download when the official one comes out. thanks btw [14:54] <Jakey2> i had checked modori in this setting but chrome still loades [14:55] <ioria> Jakey2, try with sudo before the command [14:55] <MonkeyDust> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule [14:58] <home> ubuntu mate 15.04 [14:58] <petrvs> captainfantastic: why wait [15:01] <VEndix> aaaaa77qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq [15:01] <Pici> VEndix: Cat-like-typing detected [15:02] <thegrreat> Cant find anywhere my 2,5 hard drive will fit into my pc... [15:02] <thegrreat> Is there any other way to put it in there ? [15:02] <thegrreat> I only have a 2,5 hard drive but the mounting rack inside pc is at the size of a 3,5 hard drive [15:03] <MonkeyDust> thegrreat a crowbar? [15:03] <thegrreat> a crowbar ? XD [15:04] <zykotick9> thegrreat: fyi, there are 2.5->3.5 adapters (some SSDs come with them) out there... good luck. [15:05] <thegrreat> The 2,5 hard drive fits into the hard drive connector on the pc but it's to small for the mount rack wich makes it move around [15:05] <thegrreat> I cant make it stand still inside the pc [15:05] <ChunkzZ> is it true ubuntu 15 is out? [15:05] <mcphail> thegrreat: that isn't an Ubuntu support question, and you already had an answer 40 minutes ago. Please do not keep asking [15:05] <genii> ChunkzZ: Tomorrow sometime after around 4pm GMT [15:06] <thegrreat> Well i have ubuntu on the other hard drive [15:06] <MonkeyDust> ChunkzZ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule [15:06] <thegrreat> Installed ubuntu and it wont boot that's why i ask for help here with my hard drive. [15:07] <cfhowlett> thegrreat, wrong channel. you have a HARDWARE issue. This is OS (software) support. [15:07] <thegrreat> ok sorry [15:07] <ChunkzZ> MonkeyDust, I don't get it? [15:07] <mcphail> thegrreat: getting help booting Ubuntu is on-topic here. Hardware questions are not, particularly when you don't listen to the answers. 2 people have already told you to get a 2.5 -- 3.5# adaptor bracket [15:08] * mcphail is a bit hot in his office and is sorry for being grumpy [15:09] <ioria> crowbar != bar attended by crows [15:09] <thegrreat> I understand you mcphail [15:10] <Rory> ChunkzZ: It is out tomorrow [15:11] <ChunkzZ> Rory, has unity been improved? [15:12] <Rory> ChunkzZ: That's a subjective question. Here is an article from The Register about ubuntu 15.04 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/02/ubuntu_15_04_flavours_vivid_vervet/ [15:12] <petrvs> never had to use unity anyway [15:15] <polohemd> Hello. I got a problem with a wireless Keyboard/mouse system an USB mice generaly at my ubuntu. after starting up the mouse is operating normal but after 2 - 20 minutes it freezes and i can´t use it anymore. the keyboard which is connectet to the same receiver at the same port is working well and got no problem [15:15] <ChunkzZ> thanks Rory [15:15] <Rory> polohemd: Does the same problem occur when you use the wireless mouse on another computer? [15:15] <petrvs> polohemd: change batteries [15:16] <Rory> Well I didn't want to just SAY it, petrvs... [15:16] <petrvs> Rory: did it for you [15:16] <polohemd> batteries a new and the system is working now on my laptop with win8 for hours [15:16] <petrvs> I wonder if usb power saving could break the mouse but not the keyboard [15:17] <polohemd> the system wich is running ubuntu now was a windows system with no problem all time [15:17] <prp-e> Hi guys, I have some questions about Dark Ambient vocals in Audacity. First, I like to make my sound like "Burzum", specially in Dunkelheit, How can I do it? [15:17] <prp-e> Actually, I wanna make Lo-Fi vocals. [15:18] <cfhowlett> prp-e, #opensourcemusicans would be a better place to ask [15:18] <polohemd> because the keyboard is working fine I think its a ubuntu problem with usb mice :) [15:18] <tgm4883> polohemd: any other USB devices plugged in? [15:18] <sharazam> Can installing CUDA (without NVIDIA drivers) crash my system? I've made bad experiences with this in the past. Running 14.04 [15:18] <polohemd> nope. only the receiver is connected [15:18] <tgm4883> polohemd: what mouse [15:19] <prp-e> cfhowlett: The channel doesn't exist [15:19] <polohemd> Logitech cordless canada 310 [15:21] <tgm4883> polohemd: I know this sounds odd, but have you tried fresh batteries? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2067011 [15:22] <mcphail> polohemd: I have intermittent problems with a Logitech keyboard/mouse combo (but not with my older version). Haven't tracked down the cause yet despite doing a bit of kernel hacking [15:23] <polohemd> the batteries was my first suspicion. they are new [15:23] <mcphail> polohemd: switching the keyboard or mouse off then on sorts it for a while. Is that the same with you? [15:24] <polohemd> no. the mouse freezes and is no more working after a short period of working [15:24] <sgo11> hi, I am looking for a way to setup a video/voice chat server on ubuntu. People use different clients (mobile app/PCs/Browsers) to do video/voice call on that server. When I google this, google always show me solution about voip and Asterisk etc... I don't know much about asterisk, but it seems an asterisk server has to communicate with third-party trunk. this is not what I want. I don't want to connect any third-party services. any suggestions? thanks. [15:25] <tgm4883> polohemd: odd. I had a similar issue but it was due to a plantronics headset I had plugged in [15:26] <polohemd> and at this moment my ubuntu is broken down?!? [15:26] <tgm4883> polohemd: anything in the logs? [15:26] <spdreamin> ?? [15:27] <tgm4883> polohemd: /var/log/syslog ~/.xsession-errors [15:27] <polohemd> just a moment it´s restarting [15:27] <tgm4883> polohemd: maybe /var/log/Xorg.0.log too [15:27] <tgm4883> polohemd: ok, then you'll need to look at the old versions of those logs probably [15:29] <polohemd> org.freedesktop.DBus.error.spawn.permissionsinvalid [15:31] <polohemd> tgm4883 as I can see there was a chrash while updating the system [15:31] <Saire> I use Ubuntu trusty on Nokia N900,and who can tell me how to set long-touch-screen as mouse-right-button? [15:33] <shudon> hi all :) i have this mount: overlayfs on / type overlayfs (rw,lowerdir=/web-server,upperdir=/web-server-overlay)\ [15:33] <shudon> how do i umount this? [15:33] <tgm4883> polohemd: hmm, not sure. As someone else suggested, perhaps due to usb suspend. Have you tried disabling that? [15:34] <tgm4883> polohemd: I've got to run to the data center for a bit, maybe try some of these http://superuser.com/questions/586411/debug-mouse-freezing-on-ubuntu [15:35] <escargotdu25> hi I'm a new user for xubuntu and have a question [15:37] <escargotdu25> my question is : how can I update xubuntu so that I can donload and use VLC media player and oppenoffice ? thanks for your help [15:38] <petrvs> escargotdu25: can't you use those now? [15:38] <k1l_> escargotdu25: install it. either from softwarecenter or from terminal with apt-get install [15:38] <ugnius> list elementary [15:38] <ugnius> sorry :P [15:38] <escargotdu25> no I can't I have dowloaded VLC media player but I can't install it [15:38] <k1l_> escargotdu25: like "sudo apt-get install vlc libreoffice" [15:39] <SchrodingersScat> escargotdu25: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install vlc libreoffice [15:39] <k1l_> escargotdu25: libreoffice is the new openoffice. [15:39] <petrvs> escargotdu25: downloaded how? [15:39] <escargotdu25> on 01.net [15:40] <k1l_> escargotdu25: on ubuntu, you dont load stuff from websites. ubuntu offers already a lot of programs made working with ubuntu in the official repositories [15:40] <polohemd> tgm4883 i´ve read the text in your link, but now the mouse is down and i don´t have a idea how to open a terminal to type in the text [15:40] <tgm4883> polohemd: ctrl+alt+t [15:41] <polohemd> too late, i try to start again :D [15:41] <ioria> escargotdu25, it's not like on windows, also for security reasons [15:41] * tgm4883 sighs [15:42] <ioria> escargotdu25, you can browse Software Center or Synaptic Package Manager [15:42] <petrvs> escargotdu25: yes on Unix systems in general, as k1l_ says, we have package managers, you don't need to acquire installers from random places [15:43] <reborn> what's useful for bootable usb apps? [15:43] <escargotdu25> ioria what does it mean ? [15:44] <ioria> escargotdu25, on windows we brows the Net and install random software, righ ? [15:44] <k1l_> escargotdu25: software center ist like the app store on your iphone. you can choose software there that gets installed. [15:44] <escargotdu25> kll how can do this ? [15:44] <ioria> escargotdu25, on Ubuntu/Linux thare are 'Repositories', [15:44] <k1l_> escargotdu25: open software center. the search for vlc. click install button [15:45] <petrvs> reborn: for what? [15:48] <reborn> live bootable [15:48] <polohemd> when i try to start ...remove powernap... the system said it couldn´t be done because the was a fault. i should give in another sudo order [15:49] <polohemd> now its repairing the update crahs i think [15:49] <escargotdu25> kll and ioria : when I try to install VLC mp it is sais : available ferom "universe" source and thenI nedd to authenticate with a password [15:51] <SchrodingersScat> escargotdu25: sounds right [15:51] <ioria> escargotdu25, go on it's normal, authentication is required every time you install something [15:52] <escargotdu25> ioria how can I authenticate ? what password should I type in ? [15:53] <ioria> escargotdu25, you set up it when you installed the system [15:53] <polohemd> tgm4883 now i could do whats in the link but the terminal said the package powernap isn´t installed? [15:53] <sharazam> Which CUDA installation should I take? Online installer, .run or .deb? Do I have to switch off GUI for the installation? Instructions don't say anything about this. [15:54] <escargotdu25> ioria what do you mean ? how can I refind this password ? [15:54] <ioria> escargotdu25, when did you install Xubuntu ? [15:54] <SchrodingersScat> escargotdu25: your user password, if you have those privileges [15:54] <escargotdu25> ioria a few months ago [15:55] <k1l_> escargotdu25: type your password. the user password [15:55] <ioria> escargotdu25, did you choose automatic login ? i mean after boot you are already on Dsktop ? [15:56] <ioria> Desktop [15:56] <escargotdu25> kll and schrondingerscat : my user password when i want toacceed to the desktop ? [15:56] <k1l_> escargotdu25: yes [15:57] <escargotdu25> ok I try again so [15:58] <peppelakappa> hello chan, I'm having a strange problem with kernel 3.19 [15:59] <peppelakappa> sometimes the system completely locks up, I cannot even use a tty, anyone experiencing this problem? [15:59] <escargotdu25> kll it said failed to download repository information, check your internet connection [16:00] <k1l_> escargotdu25: open a terminal. then type in there "lsb_release -d" and schow the output here please [16:00] <permanent> hello [16:00] <OerHeks> peppelakappa, on Vivid? [16:01] <escargotdu25> kll what do you mean with open a terminal ? [16:01] <permanent> how to know that a certain [16:02] <petrvs> permanent: I miss you [16:02] <k1l_> escargotdu25: "open a terminal" is a very easy task. i dont know how to explain that in more easy way. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/terminalxfceprecise.jpg [16:02] <peppelakappa> OerHeks, yes, currently on vivid [16:02] <ioria> escargotdu25, press Alt + F2 and type xterm [16:03] <polohemd> is there a button like in windows where i can change my energy saving settings? [16:03] <polohemd> sorry... i was blind [16:05] <OerHeks> peppelakappa, join #ubuntu+1 until release, i know that will be tomorrow. [16:05] <demahum> Usually, at what time (hour) new Ubuntu version is released? When we can expect that 15.04 will be out? [16:05] <peppelakappa> OerHeks, okay thanks [16:05] <k1l_> demahum: plan with afternoon. but i will not tell you what timezone ;p [16:06] <petrvs> demahum: beta's out already [16:06] <demahum> k1l_: hahahha... That's a good one. :D [16:06] <demahum> petrvs: I know. :) [16:06] <escargotdu25> kll ok I found it it is like an old DOS command line then what should I do ? [16:06] <demahum> k1l_: If I guess for the first time, will you tell me if I guessed? [16:06] <demahum> k1l_: I mean at first try. :D [16:08] <ioria> escargotdu25, type lsb_release -d [16:08] <DarkSeed> Tomorrow 15.04 ??? [16:08] <demahum> DarkSeed: If that is a question, yes. :D [16:08] <petrvs> either it will be tomorrow or it won't be [16:08] <petrvs> the only thing we can be sure of is that it doesn't matter [16:09] <tilerendering> hi [16:09] <escargotdu25> ioria i did it it says Ubuntu 12.10 [16:09] <DarkSeed> thxs demahum :DDD [16:09] <petrvs> hi tile [16:09] <tilerendering> ubuntu 14.04 desktop 32 bit not detecting hdmi display (yes, hdmi display was connected and running at the time of ubuntu boot) [16:10] <k1l_> escargotdu25: ok. the problem is you installed a old version of ubuntu that is not working anymore. [16:10] <ioria> escargotdu25, you are not updated, repositories are no lon geravailable [16:10] <tilerendering> and yes, that laptop has an hdmi connection [16:10] <tilerendering> any ideas ? [16:10] <ioria> escargotdu25, it means that you cannot install nothing [16:10] <k1l_> escargotdu25: since you would need to do 3 updates in a row with some manual editing and you installed just some months ago i think you better make a new install of 14.04 [16:10] <escargotdu25> kll and ioria what can I do so ? [16:12] <k1l_> escargotdu25: with your limited knowledge its easier to make a new install of ubuntu 14.04. [16:12] <ioria> escargotdu25, yes, you 'could' do some, but it's better a fresh install of Ubuntu 14.4 [16:13] <ioria> escargotdu25, backup the data , download the .iso Ubuntu 14 , burn it, and install [16:13] <MonkeyDust> escargotdu25 backup and fresh install would be the fastest, easiest, cleanest [16:14] <petrvs> tilerendering: what graphics driver? [16:14] <escargotdu25> kll and ioria so I should type in google ubuntu 14.04 andf try to install it ? and will it uninstall the older version ? [16:14] <tilerendering> petrvs: I just shut down the machine because no answers came in. [16:14] <ioria> escargotdu25, go to the Ubuntu website, ... the old will be erased [16:14] <MonkeyDust> escargotdu25 go to this place: ubuntu.com/download [16:14] <tilerendering> but basically that´s not how a userfriendly OS should work [16:14] <tilerendering> is there no simple solution to the problem ? [16:15] <tilerendering> if not, I ll probably jsut buy a vga to hdmi adapter because frankly spending 3 hours in fixing the problem is more expensive than another display. [16:15] <escargotdu25> ioria and monkeydust thanks I try it [16:16] <ioria> escargotdu25, just pay attention at you pc... 32 or 64, Legacy bios, or uefi stuff like that [16:16] <petrvs> tilerendering: well, not going to be able to help you at all if the machine is off [16:18] <mauro_> Hello! I am running a lightweight ubuntu utopic version on a Virtual Machine. I can ping and traceroute the internet (google.com) from the VM but apt-get update and wget won't work. This is what happens when i try them: http://pastebin.com/gUATfxRG. I checked apt sources and network ifaces, and everything seems ok. What could I do more? [16:18] <polohemd> step by step im going forward... now my system is running smooth again. some other ideas because my freezing mouse? [16:19] <tilerendering> petrvs: basically I was hoping that there was a utility out there which would take off that kind of hassle or work from a user [16:20] <petrvs> tilerendering: no doubt there is [16:20] <tilerendering> if it turns out to be a “edit this config download that driver there etc. spend 4 hours in trying to fix it” thing, it´s not really what I need at the moment after a day full of work :D [16:20] <rypervenche> mauro_: That pastebin no longer exists. [16:20] <rypervenche> mauro_: Oops, nevermind. [16:20] <tilerendering> so, I ll just hope a vga to hdmi adapter will do it, and if not, I ll install windows and that´s it [16:21] <petrvs> tilerendering: there's a possibility of it being that way for any OS [16:21] * petrvs shrugs [16:21] <petrvs> g'luck [16:21] <tilerendering> yeah [16:21] <tilerendering> thanks [16:21] <reborn> don't give up, tiler [16:21] <ChunkzZ> what kernel is being used for 15.04? [16:21] <petrvs> ChunkzZ: does it matter? [16:21] <ChunkzZ> yes [16:21] <petrvs> ChunkzZ: why? [16:22] <rypervenche> mauro_: What is this light-weight distribution called? [16:22] <daftykins> tilerendering: i think spending money on such an item would be unwise [16:22] <OerHeks> mauro_, why ports? and is your network bridged? [16:23] <tilerendering> daftykins: why [16:23] <petrvs> I think spending 3 hours on something then asking for more help, then turning off your computer, then saying you're just going to install another OS is unwise =) [16:23] <petrvs> but hey that's me [16:24] <rking> Everytime I reboot workspaces in unity-tweak-tool stops working and I have to go disable / re-enable it for it to active again. Is this a bug? I'm running 14.04 [16:24] <daftykins> tilerendering: because you're obfuscating the interconnect between card and display, VGA is inherently terrible and has issues communicating display capabilities, so you're no doubt just going to be down another rabbit hole there. your #1 query should have been "what graphics card do i have? do i need to install a proprietary driver because the manufacturer hates open source?" [16:27] <petrvs> rking: what stops working? [16:27] <daftykins> virtual desktops. [16:27] <rking> The hotcorners. I apologize for not putting that. [16:27] <MonkeyDust> ChunkzZ i'm in 15.04 right now, it uses 3.19.0-14-generic [16:27] <petrvs> rking: they disappear? [16:28] <rking> @daftykins @petrvs The virtual desktops still work if I manually click it on the unity bar. It's the hot corners that stop working. [16:28] <daftykins> ok i don't know anything about that [16:28] <rking> A logout, or restart of X, or a reboot all do it. [16:30] <petrvs> rking: oh for exposé and the like? [16:30] <rking> @petrvs Yes [16:31] <petrvs> rking: but you can still move windows around? [16:31] <polohemd> the problem with my freezing mouse is getting more funny. last turn it worked for 15 minutes, after freezing I did a restart and after this it was freezing after 2 minutes?!? [16:31] <xyzwhatever> yeah ubuntu really fukked up this one, I also have one computer where the mouse cursor disappears over editor windows [16:31] <rking> @petrvs Expose as a whole still is functional, so is my desktop. It's that the HOTCORNERS stop working everytime I restart X, the desktop, or logout. [16:31] <mauro_> rypervenche: the distribution is an utopic version for armhf architectures. [16:31] <rking> I'm just trying to figure out why [16:32] <petrvs> rking: but you can still move windows around? [16:32] <daftykins> !language | xyzwhatever [16:32] <ChunkzZ> MonkeyDust, you on the beta? [16:33] <rking> @petrvs, Yes, everything works except hotcorners until I go disable / re-enable. [16:33] <rking> @petrvs then hotcorners works again [16:33] <petrvs> I will take that as an answer of 'yes' [16:33] <mauro_> OerHeks: because I am using an arch optimized distro and I found all the stuff from there. Anyway yes, it is a bridged network. [16:34] <petrvs> rking: this happens whenever you startup? [16:34] <rking> @petrvs "rking> @petrvs, Yes, everything works except hotcorners until I go disable / re-enable" [16:34] <petrvs> it's just I didn't ask about everything =) [16:34] <rking> Startup, logout, reboot, restart X [16:34] <petrvs> sounds like a bug to me [16:35] <petrvs> the easy fix is to add a script to disable/re-enable in your auto start [16:35] <MonkeyDust> ChunkzZ ubuntu-mate [16:35] <ChunkzZ> yeah but the beta? [16:35] <rking> @petrvs, Yeah I have already done that for a fix. I just was curious if anyone knew what the hell was causing it. [16:35] <ChunkzZ> @ MonkeyDust [16:36] <MonkeyDust> ChunkzZ and make that 3.19.0-15-generic [16:36] <ChunkzZ> still haven't said if it's the beta or not MonkeyDust .... [16:36] <MonkeyDust> ChunkzZ no, i guess it's the RC, lsb_release no longer shows "develooment branch" [16:36] <MonkeyDust> typo* [16:37] <ChunkzZ> oh, right. okay... [16:39] <RonWhoCares> I suddenly can't print. Any one have a solution? [16:41] <escargotdu25> ioria I just downloaded the ubuntu 14.04 version and burned a dvd with it [16:42] <petrvs> RonWhoCares: what happens when you try [16:42] <RonWhoCares> The computer acts the normal way. The small window opens and then shows the job is completed [16:43] <RonWhoCares> The printer doesn't do anything [16:43] <RonWhoCares> I've rebooted [16:43] <RonWhoCares> I've powered off and back on [16:43] <RonWhoCares> I've ran updates [16:43] <MonkeyDust> !enter | RonWhoCares [16:43] <RonWhoCares> I've turned off and on both printers [16:43] <petrvs> RonWhoCares: what type of printer/s? [16:43] <MonkeyDust> RonWhoCares don't abuse the enter key, it has rights too [16:44] <RonWhoCares> Brother MFC-J435W & HP LazerJet 1012 [16:44] <RonWhoCares> ok MonkeyDust [16:45] <RonWhoCares> I have both "Print Status" windows open. There is no reference to the new job being added. [16:45] <escargotdu25> ioria should I now re-run the pc to acceed to the dos and change the starting session from the dvd ? [16:45] <c0mrad3> well my collage uses a wpa/wpa2 enterprise wifi so i have to login each time in the browser, is there a way to script it so that I need not go through the whole process every day ?? [16:51] <luxermin> hi [16:51] <luxermin> How to install the patch in the new kernel linux 4.0? [16:52] <daftykins> 4.0 is not standard nor supported with any release technically [16:52] <faust> also define "the patch" [16:53] <luxermin> How to install a kernel patch to fix [16:53] <daftykins> and thus the circle goes on [16:53] <MonkeyDust> luxermin i guess your question is beyond the scope of this channel [16:54] <daftykins> luxermin: still unsupported - and without adding additional information to your query, providing an answer doesn't get any easier [16:54] <petrvs> luxermin: same as any other patch [16:55] <petrvs> luxermin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel [16:55] <luxermin> I use "patch -p0 patch-4.0" ?? [16:56] <MonkeyDust> luxermin type /j #ubuntu-kernel [17:07] <apawl> Is there any way to see the name of the previous command run (from a bash script perspective) on ubuntu? [17:08] <deadmund> apawl: press the up arrow key on your keyboard [17:08] <deadmund> apawl: Assuming you haven't closed that terminal [17:08] <faust> what does it mean "bash script perspective" ? [17:08] <apawl> If I see that $? is not 0, I'd like to say "hey, $PREVIOUS_COMMAND failed" [17:08] <apawl> deadmund: faust as in no user interaction required -- done from a .sh [17:08] <deadmund> apawl: Oh! That's interesting! [17:08] <faust> apawl: fc [17:09] <deadmund> WHOA [17:09] <faust> !man fc [17:09] <deadmund> WHOA, HOLY CRAP. fc is the most useful thing I have seen in years. [17:09] <faust> ok I've invented man command [17:10] <apawl> faust: looks like that is perfect. thank you. [17:10] <faust> apawl: 'welcome :( [17:10] <faust> :)* [17:10] <deadmund> So glad I randomly joined the channel just now. [17:10] <petrvs> help fc [17:11] <faust> !help fc [17:11] <faust> help fc [17:11] <petrvs> apawl: but actually what people do is this: command || echo 'failed' [17:11] <petrvs> you can even do command && echo 'win' || echo 'fail' [17:11] <faust> this ^ [17:11] <apawl> petrvs: That's pretty much what I want to do, but command || clean_up_and_die [17:12] <apawl> and in the clean_up_and_die, I want to actually show the command that failed [17:12] <JewFro298> y makefile isn't appending to a text file in mint, but it does in another distro [17:12] <shudon> i get ENXIO when i try to access /dev/urandom in overlayfs after doing a bind mount for my /dev into my overlayfs upper :C anyone have any idea what to do? ubuntu 14.04 herte [17:12] <petrvs> clean_up_and_die() { while(true); do shred ... [17:12] <apawl> :) [17:12] <JewFro298> ./exec &>> results.txt is outputing to stdout instead of the text file. Any ideas? [17:12] <petrvs> didn't know about fc, wonder if I can find a use for it [17:13] <petrvs> ./exec > results.txt 2>&1 [17:13] <lotuspsychje> !mint | JewFro298 [17:13] <petrvs> erm, pardon [17:13] <petrvs> ./exec >> results.txt 2>&1 [17:13] <petrvs> see if it's any different [17:15] <petrvs> or ./exec 2>&1 | tee -a results.txt [17:15] <gurr> #leave [17:17] <faust> shudon: that should not happen, but I cannot help you without more information, also I think that you are not using "stock" kernel so your problem is probably "unsupported" [17:18] <shudon> faust: then you shall have it! https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8831040 [17:18] <shudon> shudon: i didn't build any custom kernel... [17:18] <shudon> err [17:18] <shudon> why do i keep referencing my own nick... [17:19] <shudon> Linux don-OptiPlex-745 3.13.0-49-generic #83-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 10 20:11:33 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [17:19] <faust> shudon: ok I didn't know that trusty had overlayfs [17:20] <shudon> faust: neither did i, but apparently it does :o [17:20] <faust> maybe it is broken :P [17:20] <c0mrad3> well my collage uses a wpa/wpa2 enterprise wifi so i have to login each time in the browser, is there a way to script it so that I need not go through the whole process every day ?? [17:21] <shudon> faust: :C [17:21] <shudon> maybe if [17:21] <shudon> instead of doing a bind mount to upperdir for /dev [17:21] <shudon> maybe i should chroot and then mount -t proc etc. [17:22] <faust> Actually I do a similar thing (but on a different distro/kernel) and I have no problem bind mounting dev before chrooting [17:24] <JewFro298> petrvs: Thanks, that worked! Any idea why the shorthand doesn't? [17:24] <petrvs> JewFro298: help | head | grep dash [17:25] <petrvs> JewFro298: rather, echo $SHELL [17:25] <JewFro298> /bin/bash [17:25] <petrvs> dunno, ask #bash [17:26] <JewFro298> lol okay [17:26] <petrvs> that is, after you're sure whatever you're running is being run by bash [17:26] <petrvs> you could still be talking about some cron job or something using dash <shrug> [17:26] <petrvs> as cute as &> is, though [17:26] <petrvs> it doesn't really save much time over 2>&1 at the end [17:26] <petrvs> it does make the code quite bash specific, however [17:27] <faust> shudon: try ask on #ubuntu-kernel it seems that trusty's generic kenrel backported an old patch for overlay fs. Maybe it is really broken. [17:27] <JewFro298> petrvs: Oh, it's /bin/sh when echoed from the makefile [17:27] <shudon> thanks faust [17:28] <petrvs> JewFro298: =) [17:28] <shudon> faust: i have another idea of what to do, but, now i have a new problem [17:28] <JewFro298> petrvs: Lol, so how do I have make use bash? [17:28] <shudon> my dev bind mount won't umount (EBUSY) https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8831043 it looks like kdevtmpfs is using it -- what is this process? [17:29] <EriC^^> JewFro298: you don't, you write portable code :P [17:29] <petrvs> JewFro298: #!/bin/bash [17:29] <petrvs> yeah or you could just write portable code [17:29] <shudon> ohhh [17:29] <shudon> because of /dev/pts bind mount [17:29] <petrvs> kinda depends on what you're making what the simplest course is [17:29] <petrvs> if it's a make file, probably stick with posix compliance [17:29] <shudon> yep that solved that small problem at least [17:30] <JewFro298> It's just for a homework assignment, so setting the shell is easiest [17:30] <petrvs> y'know what else is nicer about 2>&1 | tee [17:31] <petrvs> no chance of accidentally doing one > instead of >> [17:31] <petrvs> tee -a [17:32] <robse> hi [17:32] <robse> where to go for vivid bugs ? [17:32] <petrvs> hi robs [17:32] <petrvs> launchpad [17:32] <robse> isn't there a channel ? [17:32] <robse> (support channel) [17:32] <petrvs> +1 [17:33] <petrvs> #ubuntu+1, that is [17:33] <MonkeyDust> !15.04 [17:33] <robse> oh thanks [17:33] <petrvs> MonkeyDust: nothing like gratis spam [17:34] <kumala> hi! I'm interested in platform as a service. Do you know a channel for that? [17:34] <lotuspsychje> !alis | kumala [17:36] <torsten__> hi [17:36] <torsten__> im new here [17:36] <kumala> thanks lotuspsychje! If anyone has a recommendation I'll also take it [17:36] <petrvs> torsten__: hi [17:36] <lotuspsychje> torsten__: you joined an ubuntu support channel to solve problems [17:37] <faust> kumala: https://github.com/ripienaar/free-for-dev#paas [17:37] <faust> maybe it is interesting [17:39] <kumala> haha yes faust that's indeed interesting thanks. But as you can see the list is long and I am discovering more quite often, hence my need to talk to some experts for guidance. Because actually trying them all is time consuming although fun. [17:40] <faust> kumala: maybe you should try to ask in the channel of the software/platform you are willing to run [17:40] <faust> I don't think we have a generic #paas [17:41] <petrvs> paas is inherently generic [17:41] <petrvs> cloud is meaningless [17:41] <petrvs> if you want a hosting service, lists abound [17:42] <kumala> yep, I don't want a service, I want to build a private one. [17:42] <petrvs> kumala: so build one, what's stopping you [17:44] <MarcGuay> Hi folks. I've lowered TTL on a website, waited the period, updated the nameservers, and every whois site is telling me it's correctly updated, but when I visit the site I'm still seeing it at the old server. Is there DNS cached by default on Ubuntu 14.04 that I can flush? [17:45] <ikonia> MarcGuay: dnsmasq [17:45] <petrvs> MarcGuay: sure it's not just your isp? [17:45] <kumala> petrvs, I don't mean from scratch, the idea is to use one of the products for that purpose, but there are a lot now, most of them new, not all of them ready for prod... and comparing them all is time consuming. And I need to narrow down the options that make sense, because it's not a simple choice, and changing my mind later on would mean lots of work. So I need info. I'll keep looking, thanks for the advices! [17:45] <MarcGuay> petrvs: How can I tell? [17:45] <petrvs> kumala: #web? [17:45] <MarcGuay> ikonia: I'll google that thanks [17:45] <shudon> faust: hey [17:46] <petrvs> MarcGuay: second party/isp opinion would satisfy me [17:46] <faust> shudon: yay [17:46] <shudon> faust: so i umounted my dev, dev/pts, and proc bind mounts from my overlayfs upperdir, and re-bind-mounted them within the overlayfs mount point itself. now it works :) [17:46] <MarcGuay> petrvs: Another person on a different ISP has the same issue [17:46] <shudon> faust: just fyi in case someone else has the same problem :) [17:47] <petrvs> MarcGuay: it can take a day or two [17:47] <petrvs> MarcGuay: sad but true [17:47] <MarcGuay> petrvs: Even if I lowered the TTL and waited the intial period? [17:47] <faust> shudon: good! [17:47] <petrvs> MarcGuay: pretty sure [17:47] <petrvs> MarcGuay: might ask #web yourself [17:47] <MarcGuay> petrvs: Thanks [17:49] <ikonia> MarcGuay: your TTL doesn't impact slaves cache [17:50] <petrvs> I want to say wireless providers get you new stuff faster [17:50] <petrvs> so check on your phone [17:50] <petrvs> but that just could be a misremembrance [17:51] <ikonia> thats just not true [17:51] <sizeoftank> test [17:51] <ikonia> wireless providers have the same dns rules as everyone else [17:52] <petrvs> well, the same constraints [17:52] <petrvs> different isps do get things at different rates [17:52] <petrvs> or at least, different end users of different isps [17:52] <petrvs> sizeoftank: pass [17:52] <ikonia> petrvs: no, the master sets the ttl and expire time [17:52] <ikonia> so that is outside of the control of ISP's [17:53] <petrvs> wasn't suggesting it was wholly under their control [17:53] <ikonia> then how can you suggest wirless ISP's get it "quicker" [17:53] <petrvs> like I said, I remember it happening [17:53] <ikonia> how ? [17:53] <petrvs> how? [17:54] <ikonia> if it's outside the control of the ISP [17:54] <petrvs> because isp x is not isp y [17:54] <petrvs> end point a is not end point b [17:54] <petrvs> things differ [17:54] <ikonia> petrvs: that makes no sense [17:54] <ikonia> petrvs: as the TTL and expire is set on the master, not the ISP [17:54] <petrvs> I don't think it makes sense either [17:54] <petrvs> but it happens [17:54] <ikonia> it doesn't [17:54] <petrvs> it does [17:54] <ikonia> the only thing the ISP controls is the slave cache flush [17:54] <petrvs> I haven't said anything about what isps control [17:54] <petrvs> so that doesn't interest me [17:54] <ikonia> then don't make stuff up [17:55] <petrvs> don't make stuff up because I haven't made stuff up? [17:55] <petrvs> okay, sure thing [17:55] <ikonia> thanks [17:55] <petrvs> my pleasure [17:55] <ioria> "Your TTL value is certainly not responsible for your slow internet connection, so changing it will have no effect. – Georg Schölly " [17:56] <ioria> but i don't know whois Georg Schölly : P [17:57] <petrvs> ioria: that for me? [17:57] <RonWhoCares> I have my printing sorted out now. [17:57] <petrvs> RonWhoCares: oh, what was it? [17:57] <ioria> nope [17:57] <petrvs> ioria: good :) [17:57] <petrvs> MarcGuay: ^ [17:58] <RonWhoCares> One of the printers is wireless. Not even a USB connection. Somehow the network lost track of the printer [17:58] <petrvs> ah wireless [17:58] <petrvs> and the other? [17:59] <RonWhoCares> Well it formed a 2 printer union. When the one went on strike so did the other one. Got the first printer working and all ofthe sudden the other printer works again and it is wired [17:59] <petrvs> oh, neat [18:02] <genii> RonWhoCares: Possibly they are both set to use the same IP [18:02] <RonWhoCares> likely [18:02] <chenwei> exit [18:15] <skinux> I'm trying to find installation directory for Scene Builder 2. I can launch it from Dash or application menu, but I cannot find it anywhere on disk, not even a launcher file. [18:15] <EriC^^> skinux: how do you launch it from the dash? [18:16] <skinux> Unity Dash, type it in and click the icon. [18:16] <EriC^^> type grep Scene /usr/share/applications/* [18:17] <EriC^^> do you get a .desktop file? [18:17] <skinux> Yes, but for Scene Builder 1.1, not Scene Builder 2.0 [18:18] <skinux> 1.1 was downloaded manually, 2.0 was installed via PPA [18:18] <EriC^^> skinux: if you type Scene in the dash how many icons do you get? [18:18] <skinux> Just one. [18:18] <EriC^^> it has to be in /usr/share/applications to show up in the dash [18:19] <EriC^^> so that's it i guess [18:19] <EriC^^> type grep Exec /file/that/showed/up [18:20] <ioria> !ping [18:20] <ioria> /opt [18:27] <aznable> Could someone please give me an unaffiliated hostmask in here :) [18:27] <EriC^^> aznable: #freenode [18:27] <aznable> thank you EriC^^ [18:29] <DeMiNe0> When I # modprobe aes, I get the following error: modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'padlock_aes': No such device. I added an alias for aes aes_generic to my modprobe.d aliases, but still get that same error when I re-run mod probe. Any idea's? Ubuntu server 14.04 [18:30] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: it's looking for a module thats not there [18:30] <ikonia> is that module part of the kernel - or have you manually added it [18:31] <DeMiNe0> It should be part of the kernel. Atleast it is for older versions. Lemme check [18:33] <DeMiNe0> modprobe --resolve-alias aes shows the padlock_aes module [18:33] <DeMiNe0> hrmmm [18:33] <DeMiNe0> not seeing it in lsmod though [18:34] <ikonia> that wasn't what I asked [18:34] <DeMiNe0> I only see aes_x86_64 [18:34] <ikonia> is it part of the stock kernel package [18:34] <ikonia> or is it provided either via an addon pacakge or an external process [18:34] <DeMiNe0> I'm not sure how to check that [18:34] <DeMiNe0> I'm trying to setup LUKS via the guide on the ubuntu support site [18:35] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: show me the guide you are following [18:35] <rypervenche> DeMiNe0: You're using a live CD? [18:36] <DeMiNe0> Nope, not live. [18:36] <DeMiNe0> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto3 [18:37] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: what version of ubuntu are you using [18:37] <DeMiNe0> 14.04 [18:37] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: and what version does it say that guide is for [18:37] <DeMiNe0> Also tried this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage [18:37] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: and what version does it say that guide is for [18:38] <ioria> cool ubuntu 6 [18:38] <DeMiNe0> I don't see version specifics on that page. [18:38] <ikonia> it says at the top [18:38] <ikonia> 5.10 / 6.06 [18:39] <ikonia> it's in the title [18:39] <ioria> libcrypto a bit different then ? [18:39] <DeMiNe0> I also referenced this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage Which outlines the problem I'm havng and supplies a fix. But the fix doesn't work. [18:40] <mantys89> DeMiNe0: You should try https://veracrypt.codeplex.com/ [18:41] <DeMiNe0> I've considered it, but all of our boxes are allready using LUKS so management wants to stick with that [18:41] <newuser> Hey, my screen keeps switching around resolution when I for example log into the system, going into settings/display, etc. Sometimes it don't, it just goes black for a second, any solutions? [18:41] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: so that second guide suggests you are missing a hardware encryption device - but again that is for the 2.6.24 kernel - what kernel are you using [18:41] <ikonia> I suspect it will be a 3.0 kernel [18:41] <DeMiNe0> way later [18:42] <DeMiNe0> 3.13 [18:42] <ikonia> right - so again why are you using documentation that is way too old for your system [18:42] <DeMiNe0> Because it's the only one I was able to find. [18:43] <DeMiNe0> Figured ubuntu kept their documentation up to date. [18:43] <DeMiNe0> Guess not. [18:43] <ikonia> it's community docs [18:43] <ikonia> not official docs [18:44] <Naughx> Wiki? [18:45] <Bray90820> Can someone help me add my NAS to fstab so it can mount on boot every tutorial I have followed didn't work for me [18:46] <ikonia> Bray90820: so whats the actual problem [18:47] <Bray90820> ikonia: I want my NAS to be mounted on boot I have tried verious different things but non of them worked [18:47] <ikonia> so what does your current fstab line look like [18:48] <Bray90820> ikonia: For the NAS I wanna mount? [18:48] <ikonia> yes [18:49] <Bray90820> ikonia: As of right now there there isn't one everything I tried failed so I removed [18:49] <Bray90820> I can create one if you want [18:50] <ikonia> Bray90820: what shared file system type is your nas offering ? [18:50] <avid_fan> Bray90820, well I think we're going to need more information to be of any help. [18:50] <DeMiNe0> ikonia: It looks like the module I need is there. Not sure why the alias isn't working for it. http://slexy.org/view/s20V6bBlJI [18:51] <tehcereal> i just downloaded latest ubuntu 14.04 lts and installed it but got an unexpected error after the first reboot and the error is compiz related i used rufus to make a bootable usb i tried it twice and the same thing happened. i never got this problem before with any distro so i dont think its a hardware related issue :S [18:51] <Bray90820> ikonia: the NAS is a QNAP partitioned with EX4 and being shared over SMB/CIFS [18:51] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: because you dont have a hardware crypto device [18:51] <ikonia> Bray90820: ok, so you want a samba / cifgs client installed on your machine and you want an example mount line for samba cifs [18:51] <ikonia> you then want to test that mount manually [18:51] <DeMiNe0> So padlock_aes is used for hardware crypto? [18:52] <ikonia> if it works - put it into the fstab [18:52] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: thats what the first guide you showed me said [18:53] <DeMiNe0> Any idea where I could find the aes_generic module then? [18:53] <ikonia> generic ? [18:53] <ikonia> what are you on about [18:53] <DeMiNe0> That guide tell's me to make an alias to aes_generic. But It doesn't exist on 14.04 [18:54] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: probably because it's a VERY OLD guide [18:54] <ikonia> the whole kernel subsystem has changed [18:54] <rypervenche> DeMiNe0: You shouldn't need to touch modprobe, it should all already be running in your current kernel by default. [18:54] <ikonia> hence why you shouldn't be using a guide for 6.0.6/5.10 on 14.04 [18:55] <rypervenche> DeMiNe0: Is this for your root partition or a separate disk? [18:55] <zergut> hello, what soft do you prefer to use as a graphic system monitors like lm_sensors but only with gui ? [18:55] <zergut> which* [18:55] <DeMiNe0> a different disk [18:56] <Bray90820> ikonia: I am sorry to do this but can you walk me through this [18:56] <Bray90820> /servername/sharename /media/windowsshare cifs username=msusername,password=mspassword,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 0 [18:57] <rypervenche> DeMiNe0: Then it's as simple as creating the partition (if you want), luksFormatting it, luksOpening it, putting your file system on it, and then configuring your fstab and dmtab/dmcrypt (forgot which on Ubuntu) [18:57] <avid_fan> Bray90820, that's very close to one that I have. [18:57] <ioria> / [18:57] <rypervenche> DeMiNe0: You may need to pick and choose what you see in the guides that you find. Let me see if I can find a simple one for you. [18:57] <DeMiNe0> rypervenche: thanks! [18:57] <Bray90820> avid_fan: I am not sure i need all that but what i found on the ubuntu wiki [18:58] <avid_fan> /servername/sharename /mnt_point cifs username=USER,password=PASS,iocharset=utf8 0 2 [18:58] <avid_fan> ///servername/sharename [18:58] <ioria> maybe double // [18:58] <avid_fan> DOH [18:58] <avid_fan> //servername/sharename [18:58] <avid_fan> there we go [18:58] <avid_fan> I don't have sec=ntlm but I'm connecting to a Win2k3 server [18:59] <mantys89> DeMiNe0, you can encrypt partitions with gnome-disk... [18:59] <Aleksa> Hello! I'm using Ubuntu Unity 14.4. I've recently installed Mate, but as I didn't like it, I removed it and installed xfce. Now I have a problem: I can't change the volume settings using the menu applet :( [18:59] <Aleksa> nor I can change the wallpaper [18:59] <Aleksa> I have a black screen [18:59] <Bray90820> avid_fan: '/run/user/1000/gvfs/smb-share:server=qnap,share=backup' [18:59] <Bray90820> the server name would be qnap and the share name would be backup right? [19:00] <rypervenche> DeMiNe0: http://ryp.io/5t or http://ryp.io/5u will work for you, although the second uses yum, the commands are the same (except for installing cryptsetup) [19:00] <DeMiNe0> gnome-disk needs a GUI doesn't it? [19:00] <DeMiNe0> thanks rypervenche [19:00] <rypervenche> DeMiNe0: The only thing not in either of those two guys is how to have it mount on boot, is that something you want or not? [19:00] <avid_fan> Bray90820, I guess that makes sense what you have there. [19:00] <DeMiNe0> I just need to add it to fstab, don't I? [19:01] <avid_fan> Bray90820, make sure you can resolve the server name, otherwise subsitiute the IP address [19:01] <Eightynine> Hi. I removed Transmission using Software Center and lost X.org. My system freezes during boot up. How to fix this,? [19:01] <ioria> Bray90820, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1380583 [19:02] <Bray90820> avid_fan: now how would I find the mount point [19:03] <rypervenche> DeMiNe0: You also need to add it to /etc/crypttab [19:03] <DeMiNe0> ahh [19:03] <mantys89> DeMiNe0, gnome-disk utility installed on ubuntu by default ... [19:03] <rypervenche> DeMiNe0: The file has what you need to put in there, but you can also easily find guides if you just google "ubuntu crypttab" :) [19:03] <avid_fan> Bray90820, I'm not sure how you might "find" the share name. If it's your NAS then I'm assuming you created the CIFS/SMB share and part of that process would have asked for a name. [19:04] <Bray90820> avid_fan: I asked about the mount point :P [19:04] <Bray90820> Already have the name [19:05] <danbower> a few days ago, i attempted to update ubuntu through the GUI but the update seemed to get stuck. stupidly i killed it and now when i run `apt-get upgrade`, it gets stuck on "Preconfiguring packages". any suggestions on how to resolve this? [19:06] <pavlos> danbower, try sudo apt-get install -f (-f flag fixes things) [19:06] <Eightynine> Help me please [19:07] <rypervenche> Eightynine: It sounds as though you may have uninstalled more than just transmission. You have physical access to the machine, yes? [19:07] <danbower> pavlos, unfortunately that didn't fix the issue [19:08] <Eightynine> I have but it froze [19:08] <danbower> i've also tried `apt-get clean` [19:08] <pavlos> danbower, try sudo apt-get autoremove to clean up then try a sudo apt-get update [19:09] <rypervenche> Eightynine: Press ctrl+alt+F1 (or F2) and try to get to a TTY. From there, log in as your user. Let me know when you have done that. [19:09] <Eightynine> Package manager removed xorg and lubuntu-core [19:09] <rypervenche> Eightynine: Well there you go. Reinstall them from the command line. [19:09] <Eightynine> Can't do that. System is not responding [19:10] <rypervenche> Eightynine: What does "not responding" mean? [19:10] <avid_fan> Bray90820, my bad. You can mount it really anywhere you'd like. My personal preference is to mount it under the "/mnt" directory. Just create yourself another directory and use it as the local mount point. [19:10] <Eightynine> It stucked on boot logo [19:10] <nuke_> Hi. I am compiling something and i am using many Greek words. I am getting error: stray ‘\XXX’ in program where XXX is 211 [19:11] <nuke_> 317 [19:11] <nuke_> 201 [19:11] <nuke_> 316 [19:11] <nuke_> 257 [19:11] <nuke_> 316 [19:11] <pavlos> danbower, which release? 14.04? [19:11] <rypervenche> Eightynine: Press F11 or F12, I can't remember which, maybe it's F1. It's one of the F keys and it should show you the command prompt as you are booting up. See if you can see any text. [19:11] <danbower> pavlos, that's right [19:12] <danbower> pavlos, well it's downloaded some stuff but eventually got stuck at "Preconfiguring packages" again :/ [19:12] <Eightynine> Monitor turns off [19:12] <nuke_> Hi. I am compiling something and i am using many Greek words. I am getting error: stray ‘\XXX’ in program where XXX is 211 317 201 316 277 202 [19:12] <Bray90820> avid_fan: How would I check what username I am logged into on my nas [19:13] <pavlos> danbower, some process is running and messing up update [19:13] <danbower> interesting [19:13] <rypervenche> Eightynine: Try them all. The monitor is not turning off, it is going into a TTY. [19:13] <Eightynine> Nothing helps [19:13] <danbower> pavlos: when googling for this, i did mysql come up a few times and this is indeed a dev box [19:13] <danbower> did see* [19:14] <Eightynine> If i press buttons during boot it freezes [19:14] <rypervenche> Eightynine: Ok, then I say let's specifically tell it to not use the splash when you boot up. One second. [19:14] <pavlos> danbower, you could kill those processess and try to update again [19:14] <avid_fan> Bray90820, I'm unsure. When I connect to my server via nautilus I'm prompted for a username and password. [19:14] <Eightynine> I know how tty looks like [19:14] <Bray90820> I stored it a while ago stupidly [19:14] <rypervenche> Eightynine: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25022/how-to-enable-boot-messages-to-be-printed-on-screen-during-boot-up Read the first answer, steps 1 through 4. [19:14] <rgb-one> rypervenche: click page down to toggle splash [19:15] <avid_fan> Bray90820, I would think that by default if left unspecified, it would use your current login name. [19:15] <rypervenche> rgb-one: Thank you :) [19:15] <danbower> pavlos: there's quite a few /usr/sbin/mysqld processes running. does that sound right? [19:15] <pavlos> danbower, I suggest you kill them [19:17] <avid_fan> Bray90820, I would think setting/resetting your password should be simple enough through the NAS' web interface. [19:17] <Bray90820> avid_fan: I know the password I just don't know what username I stored [19:18] <avid_fan> Bray90820, again, sorry, I'm not sure where that might be stored locally. [19:19] <zerowaitstate> danbower: depending on what tool you use, you may be seeing particular threads of mysql rather that proceses. i know in htop you can choose to see either [19:20] <danbower> well i've just killed the mysql server through the virtualmin GUI. it's still bloody getting stuck [19:20] <v3nd3tta``> hello, i want to use my ubuntu 14.04 laptop as an wifi to ethernet bridge for my pc, is that possible? [19:20] <pavlos> danbower, are there dpkg processes running? [19:21] <Bray90820> avid_fan: Now i need to know what iocharset=utf8 0 2 means [19:21] <danbower> pavlos: nope [19:22] <pavlos> danbower, so try again the update with -f [19:22] <rypervenche> danbower: You'll probably have to do it from the command line. I'm not 100% sure which kill signals are safe to use on mysql, but some in here may know. [19:22] <MonkeyDust> v3nd3tta`` there's even a !factoid for that one, moment [19:23] <avid_fan> Bray90820, iocharset handles displaying special characters [19:23] <Bray90820> avid_fan: 'Do I need to change anything there [19:23] <MonkeyDust> !ics | v3nd3tta`` [19:25] <danbower> pavlos: so after killing the mysql server (i checked htop afterwards and i can't find a mysql process) i ran `apt-get install -f; apt-get update; apt-get upgrade` yet it still gets stuck [19:25] <mantys89> danbower: http://askubuntu.com/questions/156650/apt-get-update-very-slow-stuck-at-waiting-for-headers, i think it might help [19:25] <avid_fan> Bray90820, the 0 and 2 are the 5th ans 6th fields in a fstab line. The 5th field tells the system if the filesystem specified should be dumped, which I've never used. The 6th field tells the system the order for fsck at reboot time. According to the fstab manpage, root should be 1 and all others 2. [19:26] <danbower> mantys89, i'm getting stuck at "Preconfiguring packages" [19:26] <avid_fan> Bray90820, No, I don't think you should need to change the iocharset option, or the last fields. [19:27] <danbower> i also left it running overnight a couple days back and it never progressed [19:27] <Bray90820> So I should leave them as 0 2 [19:27] <pavlos> danbower, you should try one command at a time and prefix with sudo ... "sudo apt-get update" should be w/o errors before doing other stuff. [19:28] <pavlos> danbower, can you do a "ps -ef | pastebinit" and post the result? [19:28] <v3nd3tta``> MonkeyDust, i think that's the other way round, right? internet->wifi->laptop->ethernet->pc [19:29] <danbower> pavlos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10867643/ [19:32] <pavlos> danbower, thx ... no more ideas, maybe someone else can help [19:32] <Bray90820> avid_fan: this is what my fstab looks like but nothing appers to be mounted [19:32] <Bray90820> /qnap/backup /mnt/qnap/backup cifs username=admin,password=771774,iocharset=utf8 0 2 [19:32] <Bray90820> "//qnap/backup /mnt/qnap/backup cifs username=admin,password=771774,iocharset=utf8 0 2 [19:32] <mantys89> danbower: sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get update [19:33] <danbower> well thanks anyway pavlos, really appreciated [19:33] <danbower> mantys89, i've tried that man [19:33] <pavlos> danbower, np [19:34] <pavlos> v3nd3tta``, I think you can edit the wifi connection and set it to share with other systems [19:35] <danbower> the only thing particularly different about this system is virtualmin which installs a plethora of stuff (some of which are part of this update). i may just try uninstalling that, which should hopefully remove the offending process, then trying an upgrade [19:37] <Bray90820> avid_fan: got any ideas for me [19:37] <avid_fan> Bray90820, and "/mnt/qnap/backup" exists? [19:38] <Bray90820> avid_fan: aaron@Server:/mnt/qnap/backup$ [19:38] <avid_fan> Bray90820, so you've modified the fstab, just modified it? [19:38] <avid_fan> Bray90820, nothing more? [19:39] <Bray90820> Correct [19:39] <mantys89> danbower: sudo dpkg-reconfigure update-manager [19:39] <avid_fan> Bray90820, then "cd /" and then if you're root, "mount /mnt/qnap/backup", else "sudo mount /mnt/qnap/backup". [19:41] <v3nd3tta``> i now have seen 5 different solution articles in the internet, all describing something completely different. [19:42] <mantys89> danbower: sudo dpkg-reconfigure --force update-manager, it should fix broken packages.... [19:44] <danbower> mantys89: i'll give it a try, thanks [19:46] <Whitor> Hi all, Odd question I know.... I'd like to force an application to stay in the terminal it was invoked within. This application has both a CLI interface (I know that is redundant) and GUI.. When run in an Alt-F1 (real) terminal it runs in the cli just fine. If run from an xterm it invokes the GUI. How can I force it to stay in the CLI when invoked from an xterm? [19:46] <Whitor> The app in question is VLC... Once upon a time, I was given a string that would force it to stay in the xterm... It seemed generic and not specific to VLC. [19:47] <Whitor> but darned if I can recall the command [19:47] <avid_fan> Whitor, cvlc? [19:47] <tgm4883> Whitor: cvlc? [19:47] <tgm4883> lol [19:47] <Whitor> heh.... wil try [19:47] <avid_fan> tgm4883, jinzx [19:47] <tgm4883> ah, i owe you a coke [19:47] <avid_fan> tgm4883, lol [19:47] <mantys89> danbower: http://galigio.org/2009/11/29/how-to-repair-a-bad-upgrade-on-ubuntu/ [19:47] <zerowaitstate> Whitor: I think you have to unset the DISPLAY environment variable for that process [19:48] <zerowaitstate> Whitor: try DISPLAY= yourcommandname [19:48] <Whitor> zerowaitstate, how do I unset the display variable [19:48] <Whitor> ok, thx [19:49] <zerowaitstate> Whitor: for example to run emacs without X, type: DISPLAY= emacs [19:50] <zerowaitstate> I'm assuming you're using bash, of course [19:50] <Whitor> btw, tgm4883 and avid_fan cvlc did not work [19:50] <danbower> thanks mantys89. one of the commands in that link shows promise but i'll need to reboot [19:51] <avid_fan> Whitor, good to know. [19:51] <Whitor> neither did the display= cmd :( [19:51] <zerowaitstate> Whitor: it does because I tested it [19:51] <zerowaitstate> Whitor: DISPLAY= vlc [19:51] <zerowaitstate> Whitor: all caps on DISPLAY [19:52] <Whitor> works if I invoke it from a real terminal (Alt-F1 or such) ... bit not if invoked form an xtermn [19:52] <Whitor> zerowaitstate, is the WINNER ! [19:52] <Whitor> cool, thanks ! [19:52] <Whitor> zerowaitstate, thank you very much [19:53] <zerowaitstate> Whitor: incidentally, that is the way you modify the environment variables for any process. [19:53] <zerowaitstate> I just set DISPLAY to empty string [19:53] <zerowaitstate> in that case [19:54] <Bray90820> avid_fan: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/04bb902e172402196cfb [19:55] <tgm4883> Bray90820: either specify IP or fix your DNS? [19:55] <Whitor> zerowaitstate, I wanted to force vlc to play in Cool Retro Term ... nifty little xterm gui for old folks like me [19:55] <Bray90820> so change '//qnap/backup' to the ip address [19:56] <Bray90820> tgm4883: [19:56] <Whitor> Brings me back to my vt100 days / ibm 3270 [19:56] <tgm4883> Bray90820: well no, just qnap. And not in the command you posted, but in fstab [19:56] <Bray90820> ok [19:56] <tgm4883> Bray90820: Also, that is assuming that you have a static or reserved IP address for your qnap [19:57] <Bray90820> I do have it as static I believe [19:57] <v3nd3tta``> okay thank you pavlos and MonkeyDust i managed it to work. i just had to use the network manager on eth0 to share eth0, get the ip configuration right on the pc and now it works like a charm [19:57] <pavlos> v3nd3tta``, great! [19:58] <v3nd3tta``> maybe this should be added in a simpler manner into the Internet/ConnectionSharing manual [20:05] <kumala> I think I got a prob with my graphic drivers. When I switch to a console with ctrl-alt-F1 the screen remains black, but I can still login and type commands, just black screen. There is signal and the screen turns the lights on but remains black. Also when I boot, I have an encrypted partition and I need to type the password, at that point it is in graphical mode already but the keyboard input goes to another console and has no effect. I need t [20:05] <kumala> o ctrl-alt-suppr to restart and then I get the same password prompt but in console mode and I can unlock the encrypted disk. Again, it looks lie a graphic driver issue. Is anyone familiar with that? [20:05] <kumala> This is a fresh install [20:06] <avid_fan> Bray90820, so it doesn't resolve the hostname. Do you know the IP address of the NAS? [20:06] <tgm4883> avid_fan: yea he is puting that in [20:06] <tgm4883> or supposed to be anyway [20:07] <avid_fan> tgm4883, yeah, sorry, I didn't read the rest of the dialog. [20:07] <tgm4883> avid_fan: was he ever able to mount it? [20:07] <avid_fan> tgm4883, guess you can forget about that Coke. [20:07] <avid_fan> tgm4883, to my understanding not via command line. [20:08] <avid_fan> tgm4883, you raise an interesting point. [20:08] <tgm4883> avid_fan: it's probably because he hasn't specified domain= [20:12] <delinquentme> Ive got an error in my ec2 intances sudoers file /etc/sudoers ... and Idont know the actual root password to my machine as I've aways used passwordless SSH ( its an ec2 instance ) [20:13] <bruxC> hi, I'm trying to figure out what the best way to duplicate files from one fstab location to another in the fastest, safest, and most efficient manner. Could someone recommend to me what that method would be? I have tried SFTP via WinSCP but it timed out after the first five minutes. I'm trying to carry over terabytes of info. [20:14] <rgb-one> bruxC: look into rsync [20:14] <bruxC> rgb-one, perfect, thank you. [20:15] <petrvs> bruxC: what does fstab have to do with it? [20:16] <bruxC> petrvs, I'm new, please take what verbiage I say as a grain of salt. [20:16] <Bray90820> avdi: I do know the ip address [20:16] <OerHeks> Can somebode help me out? because some key is missing, we wait 4 days for Firefox 37.0.2 https://launchpadlibrarian.net/203615172/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-arm64.firefox_37.0.2%2Bbuild1-0ubuntu0.14.10.1_BUILDING.txt.gz [20:17] <lotuspsychje> !info firefox [20:19] <Tr3nT> salut [20:19] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: apt-cache policy still shows 37.0.1 on me [20:19] <Tr3nT> j'ai un soucis avec la mise a jour [20:19] <lotuspsychje> !fr | Tr3nT [20:19] <Tr3nT> quoi ? [20:20] <petrvs> bruxC: okay =) [20:20] <petrvs> bruxC: I'll second rsync, it resumes by default, and you can even use it via ssh if you need the transfer to be secure [20:21] <petrvs> bruxC: though if you do it over ssh, I think you'll want to make it rsync -Pa -e ssh, rather than merely rsync -a [20:22] <petrvs> rsync -Pav -e ssh foo/ bar@baz:qux/ [20:22] <petrvs> etc. [20:22] <krunkpirate> scp seems like it should be fine... If its dying mid transfer it sounds like you have network pains. [20:23] <petrvs> cp is nice, but it's no rsync [20:24] <petrvs> I don't use cp for <1GB files I care about, nevermind terabytes =) [20:24] <krunkpirate> haven't used rsync enough to know the difference. [20:24] <petrvs> well, if rsync is interrupted, it knows, and it can resume [20:24] <petrvs> if you run the same rsync command over again, it merely confirms it's already done its job [20:24] <petrvs> if you run cp again, it does it all over again (or tries to, again) [20:24] <pavlos> bruxC, http://www.tecmint.com/rsync-local-remote-file-synchronization-commands/ [20:25] <tgm4883> Bray90820: so is it working now? [20:25] <Bray90820> yes It is mounted but How would i add it to the unity launcher [20:26] <tgm4883> Bray90820: that is a completely different question [20:27] <Bray90820> Well that is my next question ;) [20:27] <link123> Ubuntu 15.04 will to be released tomorrow? [20:28] <tgm4883> link123: that is the idea [20:29] <k1l_> link123: dont expect it in the morning time. more like afternoon. [20:29] <link123> k1l_, thank you [20:30] <ig0r_> Why is there no 15.04 Release Candidate?? [20:30] <petrvs> ig0r_: there's a beta [20:31] <DANtheBEASTman> how do i install/enable 32bit multiarch on trusty? [20:31] <k1l_> ig0r_: there are daylies iirc [20:31] <ig0r_> petrvs: the beta doesn't work in VirtualBox [20:31] <rgb-one> DANtheBEASTman: I think it is enabled by default [20:31] <k1l_> DANtheBEASTman: its enabled by default. what is your issue? [20:31] <petrvs> ig0r_: how doesn't it? [20:31] <cribbageSTARSHIP> test [20:31] <ig0r_> petrvs: it doesn't boot [20:31] <k1l_> ig0r_: well, talk about that in #ubuntu+1 or better file a bug [20:32] <tgm4883> or dont' use virtualbox [20:32] <DANtheBEASTman> trying to install [nonFree] 3rd party package (called Guitar Pro) apt is giving me all kinds of weirdness [20:32] <ig0r_> k1l_: huh? [20:32] <MonkeyDust> ig0r_ http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [20:32] <petrvs> ig0r_: what happens? [20:33] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: pass [20:33] <k1l_> ig0r_: #ubuntu+1 is the not-final channel. [20:33] <MonkeyDust> ig0r_ type /j #ubuntu+1 [20:33] <k1l_> DANtheBEASTman: pastebin it [20:33] <petrvs> DANtheBEASTman: tried TuxGuitar? [20:33] <Sagitt> the command dpkg-reconfigure -a what do? [20:33] <k1l_> !paste | DANtheBEASTman [20:33] <petrvs> DANtheBEASTman: or DGuitar [20:36] <cribbageSTARSHIP> hello everyone! I just built my first server. Just making sure I'm doing the following correctly. I have a partition filled with files and folders mounted to /media/storage and want to copy just the contents of /media/storage to /media/bunker. so would the proper command be "cp -a /media/storage /media/bunker"? [20:36] <MonkeyDust> cribbageSTARSHIP there's also #ubuntu-server [20:37] <rgb-one> cribbageSTARSHIP: cp -r /media/storage /media/bunker [20:37] <cribbageSTARSHIP> MonkeyDust ok thanks. I should learn this just the same. [20:37] <rgb-one> man cp for more information about the cp command [20:37] <DANtheBEASTman> k1l_: https://gist.github.com/14e8c179ff4bf36a384d [20:37] <cribbageSTARSHIP> rgb-one thank you! [20:38] <DANtheBEASTman> petrvs: sorry but tuxguitar and dguitar are absolutely disgusting [20:38] <MonkeyDust> cribbageSTARSHIP and books (like: paper books) are really handy and useful [20:38] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: rsync -av /media/storage/ /media/bunker/ [20:38] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: or without v for faster, and again with -v to confirm after it's done [20:38] <petrvs> DANtheBEASTman: fair enough =) [20:39] <cribbageSTARSHIP> petrvs what is the difference between rsync and cp? [20:39] <cribbageSTARSHIP> petrvs: what is the difference between rsync and cp? [20:39] <DANtheBEASTman> cribbageSTARSHIP: you should `man rsync` and find out what makes rsync so cool [20:40] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: rsync is more reliable, it's what people who value their time use [20:40] <genii> cribbageSTARSHIP: The difference between rsync and cp is like the difference between apples and moon rocks [20:40] <petrvs> cp is great for little files you can re-cp in an instant [20:40] <k1l_> DANtheBEASTman: guitar 6 pro is the buy version. did you contact arobas music for support? [20:40] <petrvs> rsync is for if you only want to do it once [20:40] <streulma> tomorrow :) [20:40] <streulma> the great day ! [20:40] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: primarily, rsync can resume, and cp cannot [20:40] <streulma> but no fixes for my pc :( [20:40] <cribbageSTARSHIP> petrvs: thank you [20:41] <DANtheBEASTman> cribbageSTARSHIP: but to summarize, `cp` will copy all files you give it, period. rsync is smart enough to (if you tell it) figure out if some of the files don't neede copying (already there, maybe a newer version exists) and ignore those [20:41] <tgm4883> : DANtheBEASTman have you tried installing gksu [20:41] <streulma> Ubuntu 15.04 will be released tomorrow on 2015 04 23 [20:41] <DANtheBEASTman> plus rsync has much more useful output, like it tells you what speed its copying, how much percentage of each file is left, etc [20:41] <petrvs> it's pretty wonderful [20:41] <petrvs> all the best backup solutions are based on it [20:42] <DANtheBEASTman> tgm4883: yeah, L55 [20:42] <DANtheBEASTman> rsync is easily one of my favorite utils [20:43] <k1l_> DANtheBEASTman: see http://askubuntu.com/a/154490/31260 [20:43] <cribbageSTARSHIP> Thanks everyone. I was thinking on using rsync as a nightly cron and just sharing /media/storage on samba [20:43] <DANtheBEASTman> k1l_: ooo. thank you [20:43] <DANtheBEASTman> cribbageSTARSHIP: i believe that's quite a common thing to do [20:43] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: yup [20:44] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: or you could try lsyncd (also based on rsync) if you want something more dynamic than once-daily [20:44] <Bashing-om> Sagitt_: What release are you on ? as the -a option is no longer supported. see: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=721329#15 . [20:45] <rgb-one> cribbageSTARSHIP: Here are some rsync examples: http://www.tecmint.com/rsync-local-remote-file-synchronization-commands/ [20:45] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: and there are other nice utils (usually also rsync based) that can do incremental deduplicated backups, which is great [20:45] <Bray90820> tgm4883: I am trying to use rsync on my QNAP that I just mounted but I am getting a permission denied error but it looks like all my permissions are correct [20:45] <Bray90820> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a39c9f7e407d8835ac38 [20:46] <cribbageSTARSHIP> petrvs: I dont need anything more than once daily. I i have two 1TB hdd. Each has a 30gb and 900gb partition. the OS is on the 30, and storage is on the 900. I want to back up each to the other each night incase on nukes. [20:46] <cribbageSTARSHIP> rgb-one: petrvs: thanks ill read up on it [20:46] <petrvs> sounds like a plan [20:47] <tgm4883> Bray90820: are you just trying to rsync stuff to it? [20:47] <Bray90820> Yes [20:47] <tgm4883> Bray90820: because I think you can set it up as an rsync server rather than having to mount a cifs share [20:47] <streulma> Bray90820 I do rsync on the qnap itself for backup. [20:48] <tgm4883> Bray90820: I would just do that, no need for the extra step [20:48] <petrvs> Bray90820: uh, what's the error you get from rsync? [20:48] <Bray90820> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/44ddc7606a7f65bf3e7f [20:49] <tgm4883> Bray90820: like we said, you should be going to the qnap with rsync and forget about mounting the cifs share first [20:49] <rgb-one> Bray90820: use chown recursively [20:50] <rgb-one> and specify user and group [20:50] <tgm4883> rgb-one: can't. It's a cifs mount [20:50] <tgm4883> Bray90820: you need to specify uid and gid in your mount command [20:50] <tgm4883> Bray90820: if you really insist on doing it that way, which I think is an unneeded step [20:51] <Bray90820> tgm4883: Well I wanted to set it up on a schedule if I do it directly most of the time it will fail because the qnap won't be mounted [20:51] <tgm4883> Bray90820: is this from a laptop or something? [20:51] <DANtheBEASTman> ok so now that I have the deb unpacked into /opt.. I `ldd` on the binary and I'm missing some libs.. https://gist.github.com/DanielFGray/14e8c179ff4bf36a384d#file-gistfile1-txt any ideas how to go about installing the right versions/build of these libs? [20:51] <Bray90820> tgm4883: It's from a desktop but if I were to restart or the power were to go out it wouldn't backup [20:52] <DANtheBEASTman> should I add precise repos and install from that? [20:52] <tgm4883> Bray90820: it would if you went directly to the qnap.... [20:53] <cribbageSTARSHIP> petrvs: if my sda1 is my / and my sda2 is my storage mounted to /media/storage, if I cron rsync /dev/sda1 to /dev/sdb1 will it copy my /media/storage? or would that only happen if I set up rsync to copy / to /media/osbunker? [20:53] <DANtheBEASTman> cribbageSTARSHIP: I think you can tell rsync to only stay on one disk. you'll have to `man rsync` to find the option [20:54] <DANtheBEASTman> don't be afraid of reading those man pages, they're a god send [20:54] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: did you want to omit /media/storage ? [20:54] <petrvs> you can use -x to avoid all other filesystems [20:54] <tgm4883> Bray90820: you could use something like "rsync -rv --delete --exclude-from /var/www-sites/rsync-exclude.txt --chmod=Do=rx,Fo=r /var/www-sites/WEBSITE/ USER@FQDN:/var/www-sites/WEBSITE/" [20:54] <petrvs> or --exclude for any number of custom exclusions [20:54] <Bray90820> tgm4883: I ran it directly from the qnap while it was unmounted and this is what i got [20:54] <streulma> rsync -avrz /media/source /media/destination [20:54] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: use -n/--dry-run to see it work (or fail) to test [20:54] <Bray90820> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1631757631d499794f83 [20:54] <DANtheBEASTman> -x is probably the cleanest choice [20:55] <cribbageSTARSHIP> hold on, im going to pastebin a better explanation [20:55] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: and be careful with omission of / trailing slashes until you're familiar with it [20:55] <DANtheBEASTman> cribbageSTARSHIP: please avoid pastebin [20:55] <petrvs> rsync foo bar/ and rsync foo/ bar/ and rsync foo/ bar are not necessarily equivalent [20:55] <DANtheBEASTman> gist or sprunge are much better choices for pasting [20:55] <tgm4883> Bray90820: no, you setup the qnap as an rsync server, then you run the rsync command on your desktop to push to the qnap [20:56] <zykotick9> DANtheBEASTman: s/patebin/pastebin.com/ [20:56] <DANtheBEASTman> pastebin has ads and has also been known to mangle raw output [20:56] <Bray90820> tgm4883: If I understand you correctly that is what I have done [20:57] <tgm4883> Bray90820: I don't believe so [20:57] <cribbageSTARSHIP> http://pastebin.com/g7ZqGRP7 [20:58] <tgm4883> Bray90820: that error message you just posted, you didn't include the command you ran [20:58] <Bray90820> Well i am using a gui app for this so i'll send a screenshot [20:58] <cribbageSTARSHIP> Im just wondering if i tell rsync to read /dev/sda1 if it would take a snap shot to /dev/sdb1 [20:59] <vonsyd0w> I dont think rsync works w/ block devices [20:59] <Bray90820> tgm4883: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/Backup.png [20:59] <Sagitt_> Bashing-om 14.04 lts, i sent this command for wrong, closed the windows immediatly [21:00] <tgm4883> Bray90820: I'm not even sure where to start. That destination address is so ****** up that we should just wipe the thing [21:00] <petrvs> vonsyd0w: not sure one'd really need it to [21:01] <Bray90820> tgm4883: the entire destination address is [21:01] <tgm4883> Bray90820: that does explain your error though. "/run/user/1000/gvfs/smb-share:server=qnap.local,share=backup/data" is nothing [21:01] <Bray90820> "/run/user/1000/gvfs/smb-share:server=qnap.local,share=backup/data [21:02] <Bray90820> tgm4883: So where should I go from here [21:04] <Bashing-om> Sagitt_: If the package management system is stable, the command will have no effect .. as it tries to reconfigure 'bad' packages . [21:04] <tgm4883> Bray90820: I don't have time to walk you through setting up rsync on your qnap and then fixing your desktop. But there should be some guides for setting up the qnap. Then your destination address is going to look similar to USER@QNAPIP:/DIRNAME/" [21:05] <Sagitt_> Bashing-om if i'm running apt-get upgrade from ssh, and for wrong during the end i closed the windows, the process will be stopped or the machine finish all? [21:06] <phpcoder> hello everybody [21:06] <phpcoder> how can i download 15.04 ? [21:07] <Bashing-om> Sagitt_: That is a tough call .. but yes, I would expect that the cpmmand would complete. you can check -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- again and see what the package manager reports . [21:07] <Sagitt_> well [21:08] <Sagitt_> no errore reported [21:08] <Sagitt_> error* [21:09] <Bashing-om> Sagitt_: Double check -> sudo apt-get -f install , sudo dpkg -C <-. If these run clean you can safely assume that the system is stable . [21:09] <Sagitt_> no report, good [21:09] <gregL> phpcoder, join #ubuntu+1 and ask there or wait till tomorrow.. [21:10] <Bashing-om> Sagitt_: :) .. Good to go . [21:10] <DANtheBEASTman> ok, I"m down to two dependencies! libSM and libGL I've been using apt-file to find the others, but these two small-legthed name makes them more ambiguous.. any ideas where these libs came from [21:11] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: you have the strangest way of sharing commands [21:11] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Yeah, but sure does accent the command , huh ? [21:12] <DANtheBEASTman> I think `this is more accented` [21:13] <DANtheBEASTman> but, I mean about separating commands with , rather than ; [21:14] <DANtheBEASTman> sudo apt-get -f install , sudo dpkg -C is not a valid command, but sudo apt-get -f install && sudo dpkg -C would do what you're talking about [21:14] <blastoff> hey guys [21:14] <DANtheBEASTman> ; runs unconditionally of the last command, && will run if the previous command was successful. [21:14] <blastoff> anyone here tonight? [21:14] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: If we all thought alike, would be no inventivnes . Change can be good . [21:15] <DANtheBEASTman> while I usually agree, I feel like presenting commands in a form that isn't actually valid syntax is a bad change [21:15] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Good point ! [21:17] <DANtheBEASTman> if `,` was a valid command separator that would be totally cool, but (especially when giving commands to beginners) I think it might provide less confusion and more portability to provide comand syntax that's actually valid. y'know? [21:19] <petrvs> Blaster: I'm here [21:19] <petrvs> Blaster: whoops, you aren't blastoff at all [21:20] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Agreed, will comply . [21:20] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: just my thoughts, I'm not trying to tell you how to live your life :) [21:20] <petrvs> Bashing-om: get a job! [21:21] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: When you are correct, you are right . I will adjust to expedite transfer of information :) [21:22] <DANtheBEASTman> now if only I could figure out where the hell to get 'libSM' from... [21:23] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: what rteturns ' dpkg -L libsm ' ? [21:23] <DANtheBEASTman> oh, how about libsm6 [21:24] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: I use apt-file to find it [21:24] <jecte11> hello. I installed a program to /opt/xxx and now i want to compile another program that is using the program already installed to /opt/xxx [21:24] <DANtheBEASTman> IINM dpkg -L would only tell about packages that are installed [21:24] <jecte11> how to tell the second program to look for the first program in /opt/xxx [21:24] <tnkhanh_> hello [21:25] <jecte11> should export LD_LIBRARY_PATH= be enough? [21:25] <JewFro297> Hey guys, when I log out, my system hangs, but only with flgrx installed. [21:26] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: what irc client do you use [21:26] <ikonia> jecte11: ld is only for the linker [21:26] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: I do with irssi .. why ? [21:26] <jecte11> ikonia: ok, so how to tell the program? [21:27] <ikonia> jecte11: tell the program what ? [21:29] <jecte11> eg. i got two versions of gegl installed. one comes via ubuntu package management and one is installed to /opt/gegl. Now i want to tell gimp to use gegl in /opt/gegl. is there a way to set that? [21:29] <genii> jecte11: If the second program has a path where it would be looking for the other in normally, then ./configure --help should contain what all options for paths it can use [21:29] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: did you know you can make colors like this using control codes? irssi uses Control+C to start a color code [21:29] <ikonia> jecte11: you don't tell them to use it - if it's linked against it, it's linked against it, if it's dynamic linking then you need to manage the run time path [21:29] <jecte11> but if the second program does not have an option via ./configure? [21:30] <jecte11> ok, so how to link to it? [21:30] <DANtheBEASTman> jecte11: this really isn't an ubuntu problem [21:30] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Yeah .. lots one can do with irssi and in xterm and/or screen . [21:30] <ikonia> jecte11: thats done at build time [21:30] <olfannaflo> hi? [21:31] <olfannaflo> hello? [21:31] <k1l_> olfannaflo: hi [21:31] <olfannaflo> O: [21:31] <ikonia> hello [21:31] <petrvs> ^ [21:31] <genii> jecte11: If you want your custom gegl to be the system default you can use update-alternatives [21:31] <olfannaflo> =^-^⁼ [21:31] <thms> if I rsync my whole system to a NFS, reinstall and then rsync back everything. [21:31] <thms> Will it break packages I installed with dpkg or not ? [21:32] <thms> dpkg / apt-get. [21:32] <DANtheBEASTman> thms: shouldn't do [21:32] <thms> I want the dpkg -l to show ii on the new system even though I copied everything with rsync [21:32] <k1l_> thms: why reinstall then? [21:32] <jecte11> ok, thanks [21:32] <DANtheBEASTman> thms: you might be better using `dd` [21:32] <thms> k1l_: because partition table is fucked up and it's raid1 [21:32] <thms> DANtheBEASTman: I can't because it's a remote OVH system [21:32] <DANtheBEASTman> thms: ah. [21:33] <ikonia> thms: tone down the language please, there is no need for it [21:33] <k1l_> thms: why not make a list form dpkg, and reinstall afterwards with that package list [21:33] <thms> and dd won't solve my partition issues. [21:33] <Happy_Larry> parted or fdisk [21:33] <thms> ikonia: Sorry. I am french native and I use the f word far too often. I was told that many times, sorry, it's just an habit. [21:33] <ikonia> thms: don't worry [21:33] <DANtheBEASTman> thms: rsync should do the trick then, make sure you preserve permissions [21:33] <ikonia> accidents happen [21:34] <thms> k1l_: I thought about that. I will do that if rsync doens't do the trick. [21:35] <thms> Sounds like a plan ? It's a $1200 server. [21:35] <thms> rsync -avPH [21:35] <TJ-> thms: k1l_: debfoster might be what you need here, it can generate a list of the installed packages with the depency graph maintained [21:35] <thms> Yes ? [21:35] <DANtheBEASTman> thms: I would add z but that should do the trick [21:35] <thms> In what way does it differ from dpkg -l | grep ii [21:36] <EriC^^> thms: it shows the dependencies of the installed packages (recursively) [21:36] <k1l_> thms: "dpkg --get-selections | awk '!/deinstall|purge|hold/ {print $1}' > packages.list.save " on the old system [21:36] <thms> OK thanks everyone. [21:36] <DANtheBEASTman> thms: good luck [21:37] <k1l_> thms: then "xargs -a "packages.list" sudo apt-get install " [21:38] <thms> k1l_: you're the man. [21:39] <TJ-> thms: "debfoster --quiet --show-keepers" lists the packages "apt-get install" would need in order to re-install all the currently installed packages [21:39] <thms> TJ-: what would be the debfoster way to tell apt-get to reinstall all the packages. [21:40] <thms> I'm saving all solution in case anything goes wrong. [21:40] <thms> TJ-: The keeper list is empty. [21:40] <thms> is what debfoster tells me. [21:41] <thms> seems like k1l_ way of doing is better than the package himself :x [21:41] <k1l_> thms: but still think of the config files in the users home and /etc [21:42] <thms> k1l_: sure did I :) [21:42] <thms> Gonna do a NFS backup of the whole system anyway. [21:42] <EriC^^> thms: sudo debfoster --quiet && debfoster --show-keepers [21:43] <TJ-> thms: The keeper database needs generating first: "sudo debfoster --quiet" then you can do "debfoster --show-keepers --quiet" [21:44] <thms> TJ-: ho okay. [21:44] <EriC^^> it doesn't list all the packages i have installed though :/ [21:44] <thms> And then I can do xargs just like k1l_ solution and apt-get will take care of the depencies. [21:44] <EriC^^> it lists gimp-help-en but not gimp for example [21:44] <thms> sounds cleaner. [21:45] <EriC^^> i'd go with good old dpkg [21:45] <TJ-> Eric__: No, it lists all the packages which, when their dependencies are installed, will match the installed package list [21:46] <EriC^^> TJ-: but gimp-help-en Depends: gimp-help-common (= 2.6.1-1), gimp-helpbrowser | www-browser [21:46] <EriC^^> none of which pull in gimp [21:46] <TJ-> Eric__: gimp will be installed by a task or other meta package; check it's rdepends [21:47] <TJ-> s/it's/its/ [21:47] <EriC^^> unless apt-cache show is wrong [21:48] <TJ-> Eric__: e.g. xubuntu-desktop, gnome, multimedia-graphics [21:49] <TJ-> Eric__: debfoster walks the dependency tree. The keepers list is all those packages at the top of a branch [21:50] <TJ-> Long shot, but has anyone experience of using Java SwingWorker and passing data into the worker thread from the event dispatcher thread, rather than vice-versa [21:52] <EriC^^> TJ-: don't know none of the packages look like they would pull gimp in, i ran them through apt-cache depends and none pull gimp in over 1 iteration [21:52] <TJ-> Eric__: No, its only the packages at the top of the depency tree [21:54] <tonyt> anyone have any idea how to fix this or point to some place that has an aswer? i searched google and had no luck http://pastebin.com/zWtgYikk [21:54] <tonyt> i updated the video driver [21:56] <EriC^^> TJ-: is debfoster capable of finding all the packages a meta-package pulled in that aren't dependencies of other packages? like if someone installs lubuntu-desktop and then removes it, could it list pcmanfm and others which aren't dependencies of the de installed or weren't installed manually? [21:57] <genii> tonyt: How did you go about updating the video driver? [21:58] <tonyt> genii just downloaded it from nvidia's website and ran the install script [21:58] <tonyt> ./file.run [21:58] <Guest69288> new to here looking for help [21:59] <tonyt> it apperrently uninstalls the old driver and installs the newer one [21:59] <Guest69288> HELP!! [21:59] <genii> tonyt: Did you add any PPAs ? [22:00] <genii> Guest69288: You should probably describe your problem to the channel first [22:00] <EriC^^> TJ-: is that what deborphan does? i just installed it [22:00] <tonyt> genii no [22:00] <TJ-> EriC^^: I believe so. It reads all packages that are installed according to dpkg, then walks the depency graph until it reaches a node with no further leaves. Those are the packages it adds to the keepers list. [22:01] <TJ-> EriC^^: deborphan finds packages no longer depended on by any other [22:02] <genii> tonyt: The fast way to get around it is find the deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives for the ones it doesn't like the dependencies of. Then you can do sudo dpkg -i --force-depends /path/and/debname-here [22:05] <genii> tonyt: The more proper way to fix it would be to investigate why it doesn't like those dependency packages [22:05] <EriC^^> TJ-: is there a way to show the packages that a certain package depends on but are now orphans? [22:07] <EriC^^> i guess i could pipe them and check if it's in the dependency list of that de [22:08] <EriC^^> i wonder why apt-get doesn't have an elegant apt-get -r remove [22:08] <TJ-> Eric^^: That sounds like a union of "apt-cache depends $PKG" and deborphan [22:11] <EriC^^> yeah, i'll pipe them to debfoster -d so it's recursive too [22:18] <[TiZ]> I'm trying to ssh with X forwarding on Xubuntu 14.04. Whenever I do ssh -v -X or ssh -v -Y, I don't get the line that says "Requesting X11 forwarding". Why isn't it requesting X11 forwarding? [22:21] <petrvs> [TiZ]: what do you get? [22:23] <[TiZ]> petrvs: Actually, I just figured it out. I was accidentally trying to ssh -X from another ssh session. [22:23] <[TiZ]> My bad. :x Thank you though. [22:23] <petrvs> heheh, nice [22:25] <Voyage> I want to make my wired usb keyboard as wireless (for xyz reasons; dont ask the long story please). what is the cheapest way to do that? [22:25] <rking> Can anyone recommend a paid ( or free ) linux alternative to gotoassist? [22:26] <petrvs> Voyage: buy another one [22:26] <ikonia> rking: just any remote connection service, such as vnc would work just fine [22:26] <Austneal> Voyage, perhaps the reason could better enable us to provide suggestions? [22:26] <petrvs> rking: http://alternativeto.net/software/gotoassist/ kind of all annoying [22:27] <rking> @ikonia, I need a real support alternative. Not something that requires end user work. [22:28] <tgm4883> rking: teamviewer [22:28] <ikonia> rking: you're going to have problems then - as all solutions will require a user interaction to make it work [22:28] <Tin_man> Voyage, I agree with petrvs, unless you just want the experience, a wireless usb is only around 10.00 at walmart [22:28] <ikonia> teamviewer is not a solution [22:28] <tgm4883> ikonia: how is it not a solution? [22:28] <Austneal> Voyage still there? [22:29] <rking> @ikonia neither is vnc. Having someone thats 60 years old expecting them to download an app and install it is problem some. Gotoassist is easy enough to get in and setup unattended access. [22:29] <petrvs> I don't know about paid teamviewer, but free you have to already be communicating with the client [22:29] <ikonia> it's a 3rd party package that the end user will need to install, as it has varying dependencies and also tries to be self contained, that is not a solution [22:29] <ikonia> rking: no it's not, as it will depend on a security model that won't work with linux [22:29] <petrvs> rking: you need both ends to work on Unix? [22:29] <Voyage> Austneal, pet Tin_man hm [22:30] <rking> @petrvs needs to be able to support all 3. Windows, Linux, OSX [22:30] <Windowsaurians> anyone tryed calculate linux? [22:30] <Austneal> Voyage, have you tried to find a wireless kvm switch of some sort? [22:30] <petrvs> Windowsaurians: it's a Red Hat [22:30] <rking> @ikonia, I know why you'r reccomending it but it won't work for what I need. Any other suggestions, and I agree teamviewer is ugh. [22:30] <Windowsaurians> isnt it gentoo? [22:30] <Voyage> so in $10 I can make it wireless? can you show me the image/ link/ of that brand? Austneal Tin_man petrvs [22:30] <petrvs> Windowsaurians: oh sorry was thinking scientific, ha [22:31] <Voyage> Austneal, no [22:31] <petrvs> Windowsaurians: not a big fan of derivative distros [22:31] <Austneal> Voyage, i don't think this is going to be done for $10 [22:31] <ikonia> Windowsaurians: it's nothing to do with ubuntu, so nothing to do with this channel [22:31] <Voyage> Austneal, <Tin_man> Voyage, I agree with petrvs, unless you just want the experience, a wireless usb is only around 10.00 at walmart [22:31] <tgm4883> rking: ikonia meh, teamviewer is the closest he is going to get to minimal user interaction and cross platform [22:31] <rking> @tgm4883, hmm [22:31] <petrvs> Voyage: if yo already had a looootttt of expertise to bring the time required for your labor down to almost nothing, you could potentially do it for $10... if you were willing to wait for things to ship, or bicycle to places to get parts [22:32] <ikonia> I don't believe it is a sane soution and will actually cause more problems than it fixes [22:32] <petrvs> Voyage: he meant a whole keyboard [22:32] <Austneal> Yes voyage, for a whole keyboard [22:32] <petrvs> rking: it wouldn't be that hard to create a dynamic executable you can link people to, that does any number of things, including vnc over ssh [22:32] <petrvs> or {insert whatever} [22:33] <petrvs> the one thing they always have to do is follow a link, if you aren't already in control of their box [22:33] <tgm4883> ikonia: I still don't see why it's that insane of a solution. Sure you will have edge cases, but I believe the client support part works OOTB on Ubuntu [22:33] <petrvs> so determine OS > serve executable [22:33] <ikonia> tgm4883: it works/breaks depending on the state of ubuntu [22:33] <petrvs> or you could try using something web-based [22:34] <Voyage> Austneal, petrvs Tin_man no guys, I have a usb keyboard. I am looking for some wireless adapter type of thing. pc-wireless usb- wirelsssusb - keyboard [22:34] <petrvs> Voyage: yeah, but you aren't going to find one I don't think [22:34] <tgm4883> ikonia: if you say so [22:34] <Voyage> Austneal, petrvs Tin_man my keyboard give shocks when on ac [22:34] <petrvs> Voyage: might ask #electronics, don't get your hopes up [22:34] <Voyage> Austneal, petrvs Tin_man my keyboard give shocks when laptop is on ac [22:34] <petrvs> Voyage: then I'd replace it [22:35] <Voyage> petrvs, i think its about laptops [22:35] <Austneal> Voyage, what? xD [22:35] <Voyage> the laptop or ground wire [22:35] <Austneal> Can you pm me? [22:35] <Voyage> sure [22:35] <petrvs> Voyage: http://www.amazon.com/Nulaxy-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Computers-Patented/dp/B00T5YXNL0 [22:36] <petrvs> can probably find a smaller/cheaper one, seems like a waste of money [22:36] <Voyage> petrvs, thanks [22:38] <Voyage> petrvs, thanks [22:38] <petrvs> Voyage: np man [22:47] <epx998> how do i check my ubuntu version? [22:48] <petrvs> epx998: cat /etc/*version* /etc/*release* [22:48] <epx998> thanks [22:49] <k1l_> epx998: lsb_release -a [22:50] <thms> k1l_: Gonna launch this NFS rsync backup [22:50] <k1l_> good luck then [22:50] <thms> How can I list launched service so I shut them down ? [22:50] <thms> it's better to shut them down while I do it right ? [22:51] <thms> it's loads of rtmp streams [22:52] <nicomachus> hi guys, I upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10, and after the restart I can't log in. I put in password, hit enter, and it just reloads the same login screen. [22:52] <thms> Don't know if it's worth the downtime for the users. [22:52] <hid> hello [22:52] <hid> how can i know my battery temperature? [22:52] <hid> i tried with acpi -t but not working [22:52] <hid> it seems that my battery is overheating [22:53] <thms> Was gonna say acpi -t too [22:53] <nicomachus> lm-sensors doesn't give battery temp does it? [22:53] <k1l_> nicomachus: log into the tty1 (ctrl+alt+f1) and then do a "ls -al" and see if stuff belongs to root:root instead of user:user [22:53] <nicomachus> I can't even open a terminal. [22:53] <k1l_> nicomachus: tty1. not terminal [22:53] <nicomachus> ctrl+alt+f1 gives no result either. [22:54] <hid> nicomachus: it gives CPUs T° [22:54] <epx998> can i asked a question with no flames, why do you think ubuntu is better than centos ? [22:54] <hid> a battery is normally at 20°C [22:54] <epx998> new to doing admin work on ubuntu [22:56] <ruind> how do i go about preventing services from starting at boot? [22:56] <rking> epx998, Honestly, the only sever difference is the scalability with ISV's further up the chain with Redhat as you grow. After that, BOTH can run a LAMP stack or any other OPENSTACK just fine. When you get to clustering etc redhat wins with management services. But for <50 servers. Ubuntu will work just fine. [22:56] <ruind> $ sudo update-rc.d -f rpcbind remove' doesnt work [22:57] <bekks> !upstart | ruind [22:57] <epx998> hmm ok [22:57] <rking> @epx998, Other than working with the know stability of Redhat. Even though Ubuntu server is great. It's still an unknown with bigger corporations as how new it is to the market. [22:57] <rking> known* [22:57] <nicomachus> k1l_ I think F1 isn't working for me because I have to use a function key to get to the F keys. [22:57] <epx998> never worked in an ubuntu shop before [22:58] <rking> @epx998, It's really preference. I find apt-get a lot better than yum. And I know sysadmins that hate apt-get and love yum. Both are capable. Go with what you are comfortable with. [22:58] <rking> Unless there's some really strenuous requirements. [22:59] <ruind> bekks, yea... and how do I use upstart to do that? [22:59] <epx998> yeah [23:00] <epx998> rking: yeah - hoping my current pain point with ubuntu is just related to whomever build these vm's [23:01] <rking> @epx998, Ubuntu is quite capable with Virtualization licenses. Do you have a question from that vs centOS? [23:01] <bekks> ruind: like this: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting [23:01] <pavlos> ruind, http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services [23:01] <DANtheBEASTman> anyone here familiar with minidlna? it's giving me permission errors, even though I explicitly tell it to run as root.. [23:02] <k1l_> DANtheBEASTman: dont explicitly tell things to run as root when its not needed [23:02] <DANtheBEASTman> error I'm getting is [2015/04/22 17:59:53] minidlna.c:594: error: Media directory "A,/media/dan/205C-5FBD/music" not accessible [Permission denied] [23:02] <rking> @danthebeastmean How are you explicitly telling it to run as root? [23:03] <DANtheBEASTman> k1l_: I don't normally, but I wanted to at least test that running as root would do that [23:03] <rking> @danthebeastmean You don't need root for a media server. You just the correct chmod permissions and network access. [23:03] <k1l_> DANtheBEASTman: just get your file permissions right instead of making a huge security issue out of it [23:03] <DANtheBEASTman> k1l_: how would you suggest I do that? [23:04] <rking> @danthebeastman Set correct permissions on the media server for sharing. That will be ever evolving depending upon whether you want read or write access or no access. [23:04] <thms> k1l_: http://serverfault.com/questions/684781/resize-raid-partition-with-gpt-partition-layout-without-lvm/684839#684839 [23:04] <thms> The solution the guy provides, isn't that valid ? [23:04] <thms> Instead of reinstalling the system ? [23:04] <thms> I think I will try it before. [23:05] <k1l_> thms: raid, lvm etc is not my business. [23:05] <K4k_alt> How do you stop a runaway cronjob? I created a job with "* */6 * * *" when I meant to do "0 */6 * * *" and now I've got rsync spawning a processes every minute that emails me upon completion [23:05] <thms> k1l_: ho, okay :) [23:05] <K4k_alt> I've killed all the currently running processes, fixed the crontab file and restarted the cron daemon [23:06] <K4k_alt> actually... the cron service is not even running right now and they're still spawning [23:06] <rking> @k4k_alt did you do ps -e to see the jobs [23:06] <petrvs> K4k_alt: while(true); do killall rsync; done [23:07] <K4k_alt> rking: yes, I'm currently watching `watch "ps -e | grep rsync"` [23:07] <K4k_alt> I periodically run killall rsync but they come back after a second or two as new PIDs [23:07] <rking> @k4k_alt weird, and you said you restarted the cdaemon? [23:07] <K4k_alt> are there any other cron daemons? [23:08] <K4k_alt> `service cron restart` [23:08] <K4k_alt> and just now `service cron stop`... is there another daemon? [23:08] <K4k_alt> anacron is not running [23:08] <rking> sudo service cron stop [23:08] <K4k_alt> rking: I'm already root [23:09] <rking> then take out sudo ha [23:09] <rking> see if that 1min job stops [23:09] <K4k_alt> it has not yet, cron has been stopped for about 20 minutes [23:09] <K4k_alt> ...is it possible that it's just a backlog of queued jobs? [23:09] <rking> do service cron start [23:10] <rking> and does it tell you waiting and it started? [23:10] <K4k_alt> started [23:10] <k1l_> DANtheBEASTman: put the user the minidlna server runs as (like minidlna) into the group the files you want to read belong to and make sure the group file permissions are right [23:10] <rking> service restart cron and see if that kills the hung job [23:10] <epx998> rking: no - just tring to build some POC servers, i inherited a puppet 3.1.0 environment and ran into pkg dep's on these vm's when trying to deploy the latest and greatest [23:10] <k1l_> DANtheBEASTman: make sure the /media/Dan.... thing is mounted with right options, too [23:11] <K4k_alt> OH! hang on, I haven't seen a new rsync job spawn in the last minute [23:11] <K4k_alt> dang... it just made another [23:11] <rking> @epx998 oh deps issues :P [23:11] <K4k_alt> screw it, I'm rebooting [23:11] <rking> @k4k_alt well, why not figure it out [23:11] * k1l_ goes afk now. so if there is anything you need to know just ask the channel [23:11] <rking> @k4k_alt it's better to learn now than later when you can't reboot. [23:11] <K4k_alt> rking: because it's blowing up my phone and I'm technically not at work right now so I'm doing this to save my own sanity, not pay [23:12] <rking> because it's a production server [23:12] <rking> hahahaha [23:12] <rking> @k4k_alt alright man [23:12] <K4k_alt> you're right, I should learn to figure it out, and I will... just not when it's blowing my phone up and I'm trying to have dinner :) [23:12] <petrvs> what's for dinner? [23:13] <rking> what petrvs said [23:13] <rking> I'm hungry [23:13] <K4k_alt> Chicken Kiev [23:13] <rking> niiice [23:13] <petrvs> ^ [23:13] <rking> ok I'm out for a bit. Laters [23:13] <petrvs> you know, dinner actually means lunch, and before that it just meant breakfast [23:13] <DANtheBEASTman> k1l_: it's fat32 partition, mounted with umask=0000, that's about as good as permissions as I can get [23:13] <petrvs> whereas supper... oh supper [23:15] <DANtheBEASTman> oh he went afk. [23:16] <DANtheBEASTman> anybody else familiar with minidlna? [23:17] <petrvs> DANtheBEASTman: just explain your problem to the channel [23:17] <petrvs> no need for polls [23:17] <DANtheBEASTman> error I'm getting is [2015/04/22 17:59:53] minidlna.c:594: error: Media directory "A,/media/dan/205C-5FBD/music" not accessible [Permission denied] [23:18] <petrvs> who owns it? [23:18] <Dumle29> Hmm I'm getting sort of annoyed with gnome, and it's bugs. For example, all my qt4 based programs almost always have issues with their menubar (clicking it does nothing) and prompts (in sitiuations where a promt would popup, it doesn't, and leaves the progra unresponsive waiting for user input) What window manager should I look for, that would provide me with a quick overview of all my open windows, with the push of a button? [23:18] <ruzekle> have you checked out xfce? [23:19] <Dumle29> I did just install xubuntu on my laptop, but I haven't had time with it. That also seems to lack the feature I love the most about gnome 3. I can just hit my super key, and I can instantly see all my open windows and choose one [23:19] <Dumle29> or search for a program and launch it immediately [23:20] <ruzekle> hm -- well xfce has panels and browses apps via the panel bar [23:20] <ruzekle> do you use so many apps at once that you'd need gnome's feature? [23:20] <Dumle29> Hmm I might just have to give it some time [23:20] <petrvs> Dumle29: if you use compiz with Xfce you can get that [23:21] <Dumle29> ruzekle: I have 3 monitors, so after some time I'll have quite a few windows open, spread over the place [23:21] <pr0tlogic> I just want into this bug, does anyone know a work around for the time being? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1307744 [23:21] <DANtheBEASTman> petrvs: it's vfat/fat32 partition, there is no ownership [23:21] <petrvs> and a few other things besides compiz [23:21] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: Can you pastebin your config file? [23:22] <Dumle29> pr0tlogic: Have you looked at the link posted on that bug report? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2216779&page=2 [23:22] <Scunizi> User Manager in system settings of 14.04 kubuntu is pretty worthless. How do I get to one where I can see all the users and groups? [23:22] <DANtheBEASTman> it's default, except I changed the user to root (just to see if that would get around permission errors) and I added the directory [23:22] <Dumle29> pr0tlogic: Hmm that might be the way to go about it. Can I install xfce and just pick it as the system default? [23:22] <Dumle29> s/pr0tlogic/petrvs [23:22] <DANtheBEASTman> bekks: ^ [23:23] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: Can you please pastebin your config file? :) [23:23] <DANtheBEASTman> http://sprunge.us/fECU [23:24] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: And whats the output of "mount | grep music"? [23:24] <petrvs> Dumle29: yup, simple process [23:25] <pr0tlogic> Dumle29: thanks saw that, but just tried disconnecting networking and then installed and it's no longer stuck where it was, thanks for the help though. [23:25] <petrvs> Dumle29: compiz, skippy-xd, brightside, take your pick [23:25] <petrvs> compiz has a couple other nice features, though [23:25] <petrvs> like zooming [23:25] <petrvs> and per-window color inversion [23:25] <Dumle29> petrvs: Will take a look :) [23:25] <petrvs> and then a thousand other useless features [23:25] <Dumle29> color inversion? [23:25] <petrvs> like water effects and fire effects [23:25] <DANtheBEASTman> bekks: no output, music is a dir inside /media/dan/205C-5FBD/ [23:25] <petrvs> white becomes black, black white [23:26] <petrvs> blue becomes orange [23:26] <petrvs> nice for late night contrast swapping [23:26] <Dumle29> why would you use that? :o [23:26] <petrvs> ^ [23:26] <Dumle29> oh [23:26] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: Ah, so pastebin that line from mount please [23:26] <petrvs> I use it, and xcalib -i -a to swap the entire session, too [23:26] <petrvs> and also some other xcalib things to do what redshift and f.lux do [23:27] <DANtheBEASTman> bekks: /dev/sdb2 on /media/dan/205C-5FBD type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,umask=111,dmask=000,iocharset=utf8) [23:28] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: And can you pastebin ls -lha /media/dan/ too, please, I need to see the line containing /media/dan/205C-5FBD only [23:28] <nicomachus> any tips on being unable to bring up TTY1? [23:28] <K4k_alt> Anyone else running 15.04 beta2 on a macbook pro and have the digital audio light in the headphone jack stuck on? I can't seem to get amixer to turn it off [23:28] <petrvs> nicomachus: how're you trying? [23:28] <DANtheBEASTman> _NiC: C-A-F1 [23:28] <DANtheBEASTman> oops, nicomachus ^ [23:29] <nicomachus> petrvs: CTRL+Alt+F1 does not work. no response. [23:29] <nicomachus> neither does Alt+F1 [23:29] <petrvs> nicomachus: chvt 1? [23:30] <nicomachus> As an update: I upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10, and upon restarting I cannot login. I type password, hit enter, and it just reloads the login screen [23:30] <nicomachus> what is chvt? [23:30] <Dumle29> petrvs: sudo apt-get install xfce4 ? That should do it? [23:30] <ptsm> good evening [23:31] <DANtheBEASTman> bekks: drwxrwxrwx 4 root root 32K Apr 22 18:29 205C-5FBD/ [23:31] <ptsm> lilo is giving me: Fatal: Trying to map files from unnamed device 0x0015 (NFS/RAID mirror down ?) [23:31] <ptsm> after a do-release-upgrade from lucid to precise [23:31] <ptsm> cat /prod/mdstat looks ok [23:31] <ptsm> any ideas? [23:32] <petrvs> Dumle29: ummm, on Ubuntu, I would probably go with xubuntu-desktop, and then fix the appearance prefs [23:32] * petrvs prefers upstream's take on Xfce a little more than Xubuntu's [23:32] <petrvs> Dumle29: 'xfce4' should work, too, though [23:33] <petrvs> Dumle29: and compiz, if you want that [23:33] <Dumle29> compiz fusion and emerald? [23:34] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: What about the permissions of music/ ? [23:35] <DANtheBEASTman> bekks: they're the same, all files and dirs on the partition are 777, vfat doesn't store permissions in the filesystem [23:35] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: But you are mounting them with mapped permissions, see you mount line. [23:36] <DANtheBEASTman> right [23:36] <DANtheBEASTman> the umask option I added [23:37] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: the umask line is for the permissions, not the ownership. Try mounting it for the group minidlna is running at. [23:37] <bruxC> hello, is there a good plex repo that anyone here uses? I've tried deb http://www.plexapp.com/repo lucid main [23:37] <bruxC> -- but it errors out. [23:38] <bruxC> p.s. asked in #plex but no one's avail atm. [23:38] <DANtheBEASTman> bekks: minidlna is running as root [23:38] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: Do not run it as root. [23:42] <hkrrsx> whaddup [23:42] <Dowzee> bruxC, not sure where I found this but my plex server has the repo deb http://plex.r.worldssl.net/PlexMediaServer/ubuntu-repo lucid main [23:43] <bruxC> I'll take it :3 [23:43] <bruxC> Thanks Dowzee [23:43] <Dowzee> bruxC, np but im not sure how often its updated, pretty sure ive installed the .deb from plex site because that repo was outdated [23:44] <bruxC> Aw, bummer. Well, it seems to work better than the one I had. [23:44] <bruxC> Appreciate it. [23:45] <thms> k1l_: you dpkg --get-selections, I am RTFM'ing, how does it differ from dpkg -l ? [23:45] <thms> And why can it show deinstall purge or hold. [23:46] <bruxC> You just used RTFM'ing as a verb. Nice. [23:46] <EriC^> thms: it shows the status of the package i guess, if it's marked as hold or whatnot [23:47] <nicomachus_> So, any tips on bringing up TTY without using CTRL+ALT+F1? [23:47] <EriC^> thms: dpkg lists all packages and says if its installed or just the configs are there or what ( the first column that says ii or rc etc. ) [23:47] <thms> bruxC: thanks. [23:47] <bruxC> ;) [23:47] <nogoodnameslkeft> From tomorrow we should have MATE, right? Does that require 3d acceleration? Is it fine for machines currently running Lubuntu due to having older hardware? [23:47] <EriC^> nicomachus_: chvt 1 ? [23:48] <EriC^> it needs sudo [23:48] <thms> EriC^: thanks, I know understood :) [23:48] <thms> now* [23:48] <nicomachus_> EriC^ what is chvt 1? [23:48] <EriC^> nicomachus_: it's a command, sudo chvt 1 , it will take you to tty1 [23:49] <nicomachus_> I don't have a command line. :/ [23:49] <EriC^> thms: no problem :) [23:49] <EriC^> not sure i follow what's going on.. [23:49] <EriC^> you booted to a blank screen? [23:49] <nicomachus_> I'm on the login screen after upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10 [23:50] <nicomachus_> I have a password box and a menu bar(ish) [23:50] <EriC^> is it a vm? [23:50] <bb> sexy ladys [23:50] <nicomachus_> no. pc. [23:50] <nicomachus_> going to try to ssh into it from my laptop real quick. [23:50] <EriC^> nicomachus_: ok, what's the problem? [23:50] <bb> woman [23:51] <nicomachus_> EriC^: when I login, it just refreshes the login screen. Stuck here. [23:51] <EriC^> ok, and ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't take you to tty1? [23:52] <nicomachus_> no. I think because I have to hit Function to get to F1. [23:52] <EriC^> ok, hit it [23:52] <nicomachus_> I did [23:52] <nicomachus_> doesn't work. none of the F# keys work. [23:52] <nicomachus_> (when combined with Ctrl+Alt) [23:52] <EriC^> nicomachus_: ok, boot in text mode, or recovery mode and drop to a root shell [23:52] <EriC^> you probably have to own ~/.Xauthority [23:53] <EriC^> nicomachus_: does the guest account work? [23:53] <nicomachus_> no, guest account doesn't work either. ssh says connection refused. [23:53] <nicomachus_> It takes my decryption password just fine. [23:54] <bb> bobalot 4 sexy fun [23:54] <nicomachus_> ^this guy... [23:55] <bazhang> bb wrong network [23:55] <nicomachus_> ugh grub didn't come up. restarting again. [23:56] <bb> phonenm [23:57] <nicomachus_> EriC^ booted command line from grub. Is that what you were saying to do? [23:57] <EriC^> no, boot in text mode [23:57] <EriC^> add text to the kernel line [23:57] <nicomachus_> how do I do that? [23:58] <EriC^> linux vmlinuz ... quiet splash text

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.096712

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-quality

[08:24] <davmor3> I'm actually pretty pleased with how well the mifi is doing [08:26] <davmor3> jibel:how we looking images wise? [08:26] <davmor3> jibel:have we had the final spin yet? [08:27] <jibel> davmor3, waiting for a new uitk stuck in proposed to rebuild $world [08:27] <davmor3> oh crap that'll take an age too won't it [08:28] <davmor3> on a plus side I might have internet by then [08:49] <davmor3> rvr:morning [08:49] <rvr> davmor3: Morning [08:50] <davmor3> rvr:I haz no interwebz :'( 3g mifi to the rescue :D [08:50] <rvr> davmor3: Oh :( [08:50] <rvr> davmor3: So you broke the Internet at the end, isn't it? [08:51] <davmor3> rvr: remind me never to test the interwebz again :D [08:52] <rvr> lol [11:58] <davmor2> jibel: can you try an oem install on 64 uefi system please? I get no end user setup again. [11:59] <davmor2> jibel: and the checksums are right this time [12:00] <pitti> flexiondotorg: is bug 1426905 still a problem on current images? [12:00] <jibel> davmor2, I will, with next build. Rebuild is in progress [12:00] <flexiondotorg> pitti, I can't reproduce it. [12:01] <flexiondotorg> pitti, cjwatson helped update the live seeds some weeks back which we believe should have resolved the issue. [12:01] <flexiondotorg> pitti, I've had no feedback it is broken and current image testing has not flagged it up. [12:02] <pitti> flexiondotorg: ok, then I guess we can un-milestone it for now? [12:02] <flexiondotorg> pitti, Yep. [12:02] <flexiondotorg> pitti, What does un-milestone it mean exaclty? [12:03] <davmor2> jibel: I should add that secureboot is enabled that might have something to do with it too I guess @D [12:03] <davmor2> :D even [12:03] <pitti> flexiondotorg: mostly that it falls off https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-15.04 [12:03] <pitti> I'd like to clean that up so that we have an useful radar of what still needs fixing/changing [12:05] <flexiondotorg> pitti, However - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1426905/comments/9 [12:05] <flexiondotorg> The last comment seem to imply this is an issue in Ubuntu GNOME too if you have more than one drive. [12:08] <pitti> jibel: bug 1428877 [12:09] <davmor2> jibel: on a plus side enter reboots and on i386 on hardware you can exit the live session and reboot into the newly installed session :) \o/ [12:09] <davmor2> back after lunch for some more [12:37] <jibel> davmor2, ^ you can download from pending until the bot promotes them to current [12:49] <davmor2> jibel: sure [12:52] <davmor2> jibel: zsyncs pending now [12:54] <elopio> ping brendand_: Saviq is asking for help in #ubuntu-autopilot. You should be there too while you are vanguard. [12:54] <elopio> brendand_: <Saviq> hey guys, do you have an idea how to work around this failure https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-vivid-mako/2080/console
 it is a real bug (bug #1421009), but until we can fix it, I'd like to try a workaround that would catch the introspection timeout and restart unity in that case
 bug 1421009 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "unity8 sometimes hangs on boot" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1421009
 but it seems ap catches the timeout and tries again... and again... and again... which, in itself seems to be a bug (shall I file?) [12:55] <elopio> can you take care of it? [13:06] <Saviq> elopio, I asked yesterday night, was brendand_ vanguard then, too? ;) [13:06] * brendand_ isn't in ubuntu-autopilot :/ [13:41] <davmor2> jibel: good news, OEM from the pending image has the end user setup tool \o/ [13:41] <jibel> davmor2, Good news \o/ [13:47] <davmor2> jibel: one bit of bad news however shouldn't the oem user network be setup? ie info for the ap and password be taken from the install? [13:57] <elopio> Saviq: probably not :) Next time, please make sure to ping ubuntu-qa, that's the highlight we all follow. [13:58] <elopio> now fgimenez is the vanguard. Can you take care of this? ^ [13:59] <davmor2> brendand_: I saw what you did then you said in instead of an very clever ;) [14:00] <fgimenez> elopio, ok i'll take a look [14:01] <elopio> thanks. [14:10] <davmor2> jibel: Woohoo!!!!! OEM has worked \o/ [14:52] <elopio> \o/ shiny and new mako screen. [14:52] <elopio> lets see if this one lasts... [14:56] <balloons> elopio, heh.. again? or did you just now get around to replacing? [14:57] <balloons> elopio, I'll also note my replacement mako screen suffers from phantom touches. It will occasionally register touches all by itself [15:00] <elopio> balloons: again, this is screen #3. [15:01] <elopio> maybe I should get a better bumper. [15:01] <balloons> elopio, yikes [15:02] <elopio> michelle will hate me when I return this poor phone, but that's field testing right? [15:02] <elopio> por las calles de Costa Rica. [15:02] <balloons> I bought a huge bumper.. the whole thing is wrapped now [15:02] <balloons> elopio, jaja [15:06] <elopio> http://grooveshark.com/s/08+En+Las+Calles+De+Costa+Rica/55wuNV?src=5 [15:09] <davmor2> jibel: do we know why memcheck isn't an option on amd64 under uefi/secureboot? [15:11] <davmor2> jibel: release notes are in place now and open as expected \o/ [15:13] <davmor2> jibel: hmm the wording does make it sound like we have Firefox and Chromium installed by default though, with, Firefox is updated to version 36 and Chromium is updated to version 41 [15:48] <elopio> vila: so, it's important to get the dep8 tests running in a bare qemu because our second priority for CI is to run dep8s on silos. [15:49] <vila> right [15:49] <elopio> if they fail in proposed-migration, we won't be able to put the dep8s in trunk. [15:50] <vila> indeed [15:52] <elopio> vila: if you got that solved, then next step is to make sure they run in the phone. [15:52] <elopio> right now, they require phablet-config writable-image before. [15:53] <vila> elopio: https://pastebin.canonical.com/130130/ is what is working from a bare qemu [15:53] <elopio> vila: push it to the branch please. [15:54] <vila> elopio: re-running once to make sure [15:54] <vila> elopio: and then I'll push ;) [15:54] <elopio> we still need to add to that the condition to start xvfb. [15:54] <vila> yup [15:55] <vila> elopio: what's the preferred way to detect that we're running on a phone (or on the desktop) ? [15:55] <elopio> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~autopilot/autopilot/trunk/view/head:/autopilot/platform.py#L163 [15:55] <elopio> I think the question is whether we have mir or not. [15:56] <vila> elopio: right, that's the real question [15:56] <elopio> pgrep unity-system-compositor [15:56] <vila> elopio: I almost tempted to say that autopilot should do that (including xvfb setup like we did for sst) [15:57] <elopio> I'm unclear there. [15:57] <flexiondotorg> elfy, You about/ [15:57] <elopio> could be good. [15:58] <elopio> what I would like is an autopilot headless mode, but that's not possible without the headless mir. [15:58] <elfy> flexiondotorg: sort of, just doing some quick smokescreen checks - been in about 20 minutes [15:58] <vila> elopio: it's at least possible on X [15:59] <elopio> with a headless mir, we could depend on mirvfb | xvfb, and then call autopilot --headless, which will figure out which one to start. [15:59] <elfy> good day quality channel people [15:59] <vila> elopio: yup, is there a card for mirvfb ? [16:00] <elopio> vila: there is a bug, but after long discussion we came out with the solution of asking CI to provision a kvm with gxl. [16:00] <elopio> http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/setup_kvm_for_mir.html [16:00] <elopio> then the bug priority was not raised. [16:00] <elopio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1239872 [16:02] <elopio> vila: there are some tests that won't run properly on xvfb, like the ones that require url-dispatcher. [16:03] <elopio> url-dispatcher is only configured during mir startup. [16:03] <vila> elopio: then the tests should require that [16:03] <vila> elopio: and they'll be skipped otherwise [16:03] <vila> urgh ff crashed [16:06] <balloons> elopio, the song you linked was cool.. La máquina de hacer pájaros is an interesting artist name. What does it mean? [16:07] <elopio> balloons: the bird making machine. It's from argentina. [16:07] <balloons> are they instrumental only? [16:09] <elfy> hi balloons [16:09] <elopio> balloons: no, they sing on some. [16:12] <vila> elopio: pgrep unity-system-compositor fails on both the phone and the desktop [16:13] <vila> elopio: despite being there in 'ps fax' [16:14] <vila> elopio: branch pushed after a succesful run by the way [16:14] <balloons> ahh, I like instrumental stuff. I'll listen to more.. Favorite album by them? [16:14] <balloons> elfy, howdy howdy! [16:15] <balloons> my image is freshly synced and it's time to dive back in.. right after I eat :-) [16:15] <flexiondotorg> elfy, In the QA tracker I am unsure if I should be failing test cases. [16:16] <flexiondotorg> elfy, For example, the shutdown/reboot thing with Virtualbox. [16:16] <elfy> balloons: well try vbox first - just to put you in the mood [16:16] <elfy> flexiondotorg: well [16:16] <flexiondotorg> elfy, I get an installed system. So, should I pass or fail? [16:16] <elfy> the thing is at the end of the day - YOU are the one marking them as ready or not [16:17] <elopio> thanks vila. [16:17] <flexiondotorg> elfy, I will mark them ready, I have documented the vbox thing in the release note. [16:17] <elfy> so regardless of whether fail here or not - if you are happy to make as ready [16:17] <elfy> flexiondotorg: I'd not do that till tomorrow [16:17] <elfy> stops people reporting against it [16:17] <flexiondotorg> elfy, I am not going to mark them until tomorrow when others have had the oppotunity to test. [16:17] <flexiondotorg> elfy, But based on what I've done, they are looking good. [16:18] <elfy> aah right, thought you meant now :) [16:18] <elopio> vila: pgrep -f unity-system-compositor [16:18] <flexiondotorg> elfy, I'm just curious as to how some flavour have passes when others have highlighted failures you must have encountered. [16:19] <elfy> flexiondotorg: who knows - I don't think people are NOT seeing issues [16:19] <vila> elopio: ha, right, far better ;) [16:19] <elopio> balloons: they only have two, the group died soon. I like Películas. [16:20] <elfy> flexiondotorg: re vbox, I personally am happy to mark that as a fail - it does fail the test - but, I am happy to make them ready - we'll just note that on release notes [16:22] <flexiondotorg> elfy, Thanks for the clarification. [16:22] <flexiondotorg> elfy, I agree with your approach. [16:27] <jibel> davmor2, anything to report on desktop images? [16:27] <jibel> davmor2, I did Chinese, screen reader, weird partitions, no-network, non-english tests and some others and didn't find anything critital [16:28] <jibel> critical* [16:28] <davmor2> still going on i386 but so far nothing blocking so far [16:45] <teward> have final-state ISOs been made available for initial testing yet, or does that wait until release tomorrow [16:46] <elfy> teward: what we have now is likely to be it I hope [16:46] <teward> hope so too, my Vivid VM is asploded and needs a reinstall so meh [16:47] <elfy> if you're usiing vbox there are issues [16:49] <elfy> well - an issue from *my*perspective - be prepared to reboot at wall [16:49] <teward> elfy: mmm, nope, still not using vbox :P [16:49] <teward> vmware's what i've been using :) [16:50] <elfy> no idea with that I'm afraid [16:51] <kenvandine> elopio, next week at our sprint, i'm going to talk to mardy about the need to reorganize our plugins for qml tests [16:51] <elfy> teward: test results of an install from that would be useful I guess [16:51] <elopio> kenvandine: cool, thanks. [16:51] <kenvandine> elopio, i haven't forgotten, just good to have f2f time :) [16:52] <elopio> kenvandine: I agree. I would like to be there too :) [16:57] <flexiondotorg> teward, Look out for this one with Vmware. Would be interested to know if it is affected - http://launchpad.net/bugs/1447038 [16:57] <teward> flexiondotorg: gotta zsync the image down first :0 [16:58] <teward> with crappy campus wifi i don't think it'll be speedy [17:00] <ianorlin> flexiondotorg: it doesn't effect kvm/qemu I just tested with a lubuntu-desktop image [17:01] <flexiondotorg> ianorlin, Yep. I confirm that kvm/qemu seem unaffected. [17:01] * teward drags wxl out into the open :p [17:01] <wxl> teward: dude that filed that bug left a comment on the original bug, so i was asking him to file a new one and then flexiondotorg mentioned it [17:01] <wxl> wait, is flexiondotorg gravy45? [17:03] <flexiondotorg> wxl, No I am not gravy45 [17:03] <flexiondotorg> gravy45 is test Ubuntu MATE though. [17:03] <flexiondotorg> *testing [17:05] <teward> wxl: running the test now [17:05] <teward> wxl: now that the image finished rsync :) [17:05] <teward> zsync* [17:05] <teward> god i'm so used to typing rsync >.< [17:07] <teward> wxl: #1447038 CONFIRMED with 'reboot' button on VMware Workstation 10. CONFIRMED with 'shutdown' button on VMware Workstation 10. [17:09] <wxl> awww fooey [17:09] <wxl> i'm going to change the description [17:09] <wxl> you me too it teward ? [17:10] <wxl> head over there and leave a note about the vmware version please [17:11] <teward> wxl: i'm generating a hardware profile per QATeam/Hardware now to include as a link - should explain the environment pretty well. [17:15] <teward> wxl: see comment #6 [17:25] <vila> elopio: so, I've pushed my latest changes. The next step would be to run the same tests on the phone (and find the right way to express the deps). I'll dig that tomorrow [17:25] <elopio> thanks vila. [17:25] <elopio> I'll let you play with the branch, so I won't touch it today. [17:27] <vila> elopio: ok [17:44] <elfy> thanks teward [17:45] <elfy> I suspect that (as before) fixing one fixes the other, but useful to know for release notes [17:54] <teward> elfy: indeed. granted that's Lubuntu - the server image from beta 2 still shuts down and reboots as it should ('cause no live environment xD) [17:54] <teward> (and I updated my server VM via the repos and nothing broke xD) [17:55] * wxl slaps teward [17:55] <elfy> oh right [17:56] <elfy> desktop images are things currently less than favourable on vbox [18:06] <Saviq> om26er, thanks! note the comment I just added about boot.img [18:07] <om26er> Saviq, just flash the latest image, install the silo and reboot the device with that boot.img ? [18:07] <Saviq> om26er, yup [18:08] <Saviq> om26er, let me know if you have issues [18:09] <om26er> Saviq, sure, I will. [18:13] * teward slaps wxl back [18:13] * teward then watches the slap fight ensue [18:21] <om26er> Saviq, if i slowly swipe from the bottom dash is reset first and then the bottom edge works. [18:23] <om26er> We could detect a Tap vs Move and act accordingly ? [18:23] <Saviq> om26er, not a tap vs. move, at most tap vs. long press (the button isn't actually part of the touch screen) [18:24] <Saviq> om26er, but yes, you're right, we could fix tomorrow morning if you feel this is disqualifying [18:26] <om26er> Saviq, hmm, I think today is the window for landing before sanity and regression testing starts [18:26] <om26er> Saviq, tomorrow GMT morning we start doing sanity and regression testing of the image. [18:34] <tnt1> laptop will not resume from suspend vivid 15.04 using gui or systemctl supend what package do i file a bug [19:00] <bdmurray> tnt1: the linux (kernel) package seems like a good spot [19:01] <bdmurray> tnt1: using ubuntu-bug linux to gather log files [19:03] <tnt1> bdmurray the problem is that this from a liveusb disk and not a installed system [19:11] <bdmurray> tnt1: the bug reporting process is the same [19:12] <tnt1> bdmurray ok thanks [20:02] <Letozaf_> balloons, hi [22:40] <vila> elopio: ....and pushed a better version: it executes ubuntu-touch-session when needed from inside the testbed. It's a bit hackish but avoid the issues in the test deps. [22:41] <vila> elopio: leading to bed now, If you could smoke test it on qemu and confirm it works for you, I'll try on a phone tomorrow

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[00:01] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • ubuntu 14.04 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469690 系统开机关机等应该有提示音才对啊，怎么都没有啊，如何开启？谢谢 zz: shaolang — 2015-04-21 23:20 [00:40] <nellace> mmmm [01:01] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • ubuntu下连接dsl出错后，返回的错误码如何查看 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469691 比如win下类似“691：账户或密码无效”之类的 zz: momo-erika — 2015-04-22 9:00 [01:34] <^k^> 新 新闻和通知 • 谷歌发布Android 5.1.1 代号LMY47V http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469692 来源：快科技 报道称，谷歌已经开始推送Android 5.1.1，目前已经有Nexus Player的用户接收到了更新，新系统的代号为LMY47V。Android 5.1.1最大看点就是能够修复谷歌已经承认的内存溢出的问题，要知道这个问 [01:34] <jusss> hoxily: 把一个脚本放后台执行,在脚本里调用了Mplayer,然后发现进程里有mplayer但是缺没发声音 [01:37] <hoxily> jusss: 嗯 [01:37] <hoxily> jusss: 没有没报什么错误提示？ [01:37] <hoxily> jusss: 环境变量缺失？ [01:37] <^k^> 新 新闻和通知 • 牛X！100年都不用更新的操作系统 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469693 来源：好奇心日报 从Windows 1.0开始，这款经典操作系统到今年30岁了，其中光Windows XP就活了13年。同时，频繁地更新系统和安装安全补丁也困扰了你这么多年。不是还有自动更新功能吗？但遇上急事 [01:39] <jackness_> 关于vps的问题 希望大神们搭救我啊 [01:39] <^k^> 新 新闻和通知 • 百度推出基于Android的手表操作系统 DuWear http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469694 来源：Solidot 在中国，基于Google服务的智能手表Android Wear是没有任何用的，因为 Google 服务很不稳定，经常无法访问。智能手表有市场，看苹果手表受到追捧就可想可知。中国公司显然需要一 [01:39] <^k^> ─> 个没有Google服务的智能手表系统，而百度给出了它的答案：Duwear。Duwear是基于Android，不 … [01:46] <jusss> hoxily: 没有,而且 27271 pts/1 T 0:00 sh -c mplayer -really-quiet /home/jusss/sounds/new-email.mp3 2> /dev/null27272 pts/1 T 0:00 mplayer -really-quiet /home/jusss/sounds/new-email.mp3 [01:46] <jusss> [01:48] <jusss> hoxily: 你可以试一下,在py脚本里os.system()调用mplayer然后用&把这个脚本放后台执行, 木有声音 [01:49] <hoxily> 没装 mplayer [01:51] <hoxily> 我擦，要装75个依赖的包 [01:51] <hoxily> 你等一下 [02:03] <jusss> hoxily: 我貌似创建了两个没法结束的进程,擦 [02:11] <jiero_> 积攒什么东西，然后再出去吗？ [02:11] * jiero_ 默默的 [02:18] <jusss> cherrot: 如果有几个进程状态变成T了, 还需要再kill吗? [02:18] <jusss> cherrot: 如果要干掉怎么干 [02:18] <cherrot> jusss, Zombie ? [02:19] <cherrot> jusss, T 是 terminated 的意思吗？ [02:19] <jusss> cherrot: 27272 pts/1 T 0:00 mplayer -really-quiet /home/jusss/sounds/new-email.mp3 [02:19] <jusss> cherrot: ps ax出来的 [02:20] <cherrot> jusss, 我母鸡啊 cc BuMangHuo [02:22] <hoxily> jusss: 终于发现原因了 [02:22] <hoxily> jusss: 他妈的，mplayer mp3.mp3 & 它不会播放 [02:22] <hoxily> jusss: fg 切换到前台才会播放 [02:23] <jusss> hoxily: 它支持后台播放吗 [02:23] <hoxily> jusss: 看manual手册找找 [02:24] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: jusss ..... [02:24] <BuMangHuo> jusss: T [02:24] <jusss> BuMangHuo: T是结束了吗? [02:24] <BuMangHuo> jusss: 不是 [02:24] <jusss> BuMangHuo: kill或killall ps ax还是能grep出来,一直是T, 怎么办 [02:25] <BuMangHuo> jusss: kill -CONT [02:26] <BuMangHuo> jusss: 妥了？ [02:27] <jusss> BuMangHuo: 妥了, 膜拜大牛 [02:28] <BuMangHuo> jusss: ...... [02:28] <kandu> hoxily: 早 [02:30] <hoxily> jusss: 找到了 [02:30] <jusss> hoxily: 支持? [02:31] <hoxily> jusss: mplayer -noconsolecontrols mp3.mp3 [02:31] <hoxily> jusss: 不用加 & [02:32] <jusss> hoxily: 我是在py后面加的& 然后在py里用system()调mplayer, 这样也可以吗. [02:34] <hoxily> 可以 [02:34] <hoxily> 自己试一下中 [02:34] <jusss> 好 [02:34] <hoxily> 自己试一下吧 [02:34] * jiero 拜拜 各个大牛。 [02:34] <hoxily> 默认播放完退出的 [02:35] <jusss> 我就是这样用,导致出现了T这个进程状态,还真是第一次遇到 [02:35] <jiero> cherrot: https://www.jamendo.com/en/radios relaxation 就一直不换了。 [02:35] <^k^> jiero: ⇪ Jamendo - Free Music Radios [02:35] <jiero> cherrot: 想不到活着的理由的时候发现其言也恶 [02:36] <cherrot> jiero 好湿 [02:37] * jiero 抱抱 cherrot [02:37] * jiero 很久没抱别人了。 [02:38] * cherrot 很久没曝别人了 [02:42] <hoxily> jusss: 这个用过没有？http://doshome.com/help/1KG/LIST_HD.HTM [02:42] <^k^> hoxily: ⇪ Ňťź-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=gb2312"> A:link{text-decoration:none;color:000000} A:visited{text-decoration:none;color:000000} A:active{text-decoration:none;color:000000} A:hover{text-decoration:underline;color:ff3300} body,table,p,br{font-size:9pt;background-color:ffffff;color [02:44] <hoxily> kkbot坏了 [02:45] <jusss> hoxily: 没有, 还没做过ghost镜像 [03:02] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 口袋装人 : 1986年在墨西哥举行的第13届世界杯足球赛上。摩洛哥队与英格兰队交战前,英格兰队教练罗布森曾夸口说:"在这场比赛中,我们英国人简直可以把摩洛哥队装进袋里。" 打成平局后,摩洛哥队的教练法里亚幽默地说:"蒙特利尔的天气实在太热了。罗布森先生不得 [03:02] <^k^> ─> 不脱去外套……所以,他没有口袋把我们装起来。" [03:11] <^k^> 新 服务器基础应用 • Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS libapache2-svn包无法卸载，如何解决？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469700 操作系统版本： Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Release: 14.04 Codename: trusty 我在装Subversion服务器时，有一个libsvn1包依赖版本是1.8.8，但不小心装成1.8.10了，用如下方式 [03:11] <^k^> ─> 都无法卸载，又装不上1.8.8，什么原因呢？ root@iZ28aazdem3Z:~# dpkg --purge libsvn1 dpkg: dependency … [03:13] <onlylove> 论坛那货整天刷新闻版有意思？自己又不做点别的也不帮助新手讨论，除了打架就是打架 [03:42] <jusss> penny dreadful第二季出来了 [03:49] <jusss> 杀与艹之歌还没看过 [04:05] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: http://cidian.youdao.com/index-linux.html [04:05] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Linux版 - 有道词典 [04:05] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: xiaxiaxia [04:11] <nyfair> jusss: 杀与艹之歌不好看 [04:11] <nyfair> 尼玛，archlinux还真有windows版 [04:11] <nyfair> linux果然是windows的fork [04:12] <jusss> nyfair: 那有什么好看的推荐吗? [04:14] <nyfair> jusss: my little pony, friendship is magic [04:14] <nyfair> jusss: cute is magic, niconico poi [04:21] <jusss> nyfair: 你是南方人吗 [04:25] <PinoCao> ？？？？ [04:30] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 昨儿我的车把差点掉了.... [04:31] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 没道理啊，固定车把的那四个螺丝还能松？ 现在想是不是有人试图拆走我的车把啊？ [04:53] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout [05:08] * gfrog 妈蛋，ipsec这两天5分钟断一次，这是毛线情况啊 [05:12] <ericc> 大家用的u14.10 是不是很不稳定啊 [05:16] <O0XX|Qiong> HowIsItGoing: 墙墙又升级了 [05:30] <jusss> O0XX|Qiong: 脂肪肝危害大不 [05:31] <O0XX|Qiong> jusss: 还行, 最严重也就是肝癌肝硬化 [05:31] <jusss> O0XX|Qiong: 擦 [05:31] <jusss> O0XX|Qiong: 你是轻度的还是中度的? [05:31] <O0XX|Qiong> jusss: qing [05:32] <gebjgd> O0XX|Qiong, 你吃的油太多 身体无法消耗 [05:33] <jusss> gebjgd: 是没有消耗的对象 [05:33] <jusss> gebjgd: 少吃多干就好了 [05:34] <gebjgd> jusss, 多射 [05:36] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout [05:36] <HowIsItGoing> jusss: 向 BuMangHuo 学习 [05:37] <jusss> HowIsItGoing: 脸丑羞涩不敢约 [05:37] <BuMangHuo> jusss: 怕毛，大不了被拒绝 [05:38] <huntxu> HowIsItGoing: 你整天發春這樣好嗎 [05:39] <nyfair> cctv又见站队新闻 [05:39] <huntxu> 牛牛最近有什麽噴點 [05:41] <HowIsItGoing> huntxu: 春天不发春发神马 [05:42] <hoxily> 发骚 [05:42] <hoxily> 我机智吧 [05:42] <HowIsItGoing> huntxu: 其实这个系列从去年就开始了，乃可以翻我之前的朋友圈儿，哈哈 [05:43] <jusss> BuMangHuo: "喜欢就表白,拒绝就就强奸,分手就发裸照" [05:46] <nyfair> huntxu: 没精力啊，你接下班何如 [05:48] <gebjgd> jusss, 赞 [05:49] <jusss> huntxu: 让你去接她下班,:) [05:49] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu移动应用开发 • 关于图片分辨率处理 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469702 我调用了poppler库来提取pdf中的页面，我想通过Screen.pixelDensity×25.4来获取dpi从而让图片页面能适合屏幕的像素，但是我发现对于不同的pdf文件在给定pdi的情况下poppler返回的图片像素值是不一样的，我想问 [06:05] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: ... ... [06:10] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 难道是我越野越太猛了 [06:10] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 你还越野? [06:10] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 给车把震开了？ 但是我昨天回去的时候发现固定车把的那四个螺丝基本上都快要掉了 [06:10] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 每天啊 [06:10] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 不是用来减肥么 [06:11] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 轻点操 [06:11] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 屌 车轴承也会震坏的 [06:11] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: ... [06:11] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 我是说自行车 [06:11] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 车震好用力 [06:11] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 额 [06:11] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 淘宝9.9 包邮买个自行车组合工具吧 比瑞士军刀实用多了 [06:11] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 我下班路过的那个公园里面有几个小坡，每天冲一个小时还不错 [06:12] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: nb! [06:14] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 新车螺丝本来就不紧 需要加固一下 [06:14] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 你的前叉能锁死么 [06:14] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 可以 [06:15] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 我一直没发现，昨天路上发现刹车把转到上面去了才发现螺丝要掉 [06:15] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 试了一下，那前叉虽然渣还是有点作用的 [06:15] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 如果锁死的话，震得手麻 [06:18] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 我的好像不能 =。= [06:18] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 耐操也不是这个操法...对不起,我是西安人 [06:18] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 还是不锁死了 昨天骑车险些追尾 后轮都翘起来了 [06:19] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 你的前叉怎么锁死？ [06:20] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 我的车, 我感觉前叉特别好用... 上台阶之类的, 一点儿也不震... [06:20] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 不过车座子太破, 屁股疼 [06:20] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 右边叉上面有个开关 [06:21] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 如果高级的好像是跟变速一样线控锁死的 [06:21] <cherrot> iMadper, 上台阶。。。你的车真好。。 [06:21] <iMadper> cherrot: 矮的.... [06:21] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 多高的台阶 [06:21] <BuMangHuo> 倒鸭子的话啥车都没压力吧 [06:21] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 上面有个能拧的东西 我一直不知道干嘛的 [06:21] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 我们小区里面的, 很矮, 12厘米估计? [06:21] <cherrot> iMadper, 前叉太软骑车费劲啊 [06:22] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 左边好像挑硬度的，右边应该就是锁死的 [06:22] <iMadper> cherrot: 可以调啊 [06:22] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 不会。。 [06:26] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • 有没有方法可以用脚本实现通过进程名获取PID号？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469704 如题。。。。。。 zz: miles010 — 2015-04-22 14:26 [06:27] <rabbitear_sdf> [A [06:27] <rabbitear_sdf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH5bL_XbO64 [06:38] <jusss> O0XX|Qiong: 给个不限速的度娘盘客户端吧 [06:38] <O0XX|Qiong> jusss: 找 roylez [06:38] <O0XX|Qiong> jusss: https://github.com/roylez/yuncli [06:38] <^k^> ⇪ ti: roylez/yuncli · GitHub [06:39] <jusss> O0XX|Qiong: 我windows [06:39] <O0XX|Qiong> jusss: windows果断去用官方版啊 [06:40] <jusss> O0XX|Qiong: 官方版现在的限速,所以求个不限速的 [06:40] <O0XX|Qiong> jusss: 不知道 [06:41] <jusss> 都是骗用户上贼船,都用户习惯了,就开始漏出獠牙开口要钱了 [06:53] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • GRUB2官方文档翻译项目2-01 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469706 这是初译(很糟糕)，所以需要各位帮忙。可以到项目里修改，或跟帖指出。 1 Introduction to GRUB 1 介绍GRUB ********************** 1.1 Overview 1.1 概述 [06:53] <^k^> ─> omputer starts. It is responsible for loading and transferring control to an operating system "kernel" software (such … [06:57] <onlylove___> yunfan: http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=43795 [06:57] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Solidot | 数千万社保用户信息可能泄露 [06:59] <^k^> 新 Vim和Emacs • Emacs+AucTeX模式中插入宏的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469707 按快捷键C-c C-m会要求输入宏名称，然后是参数，参数输入后编驾区显示了生成的LaTeX命令。如： C-c C-m Macro(default date): \date Date(default 2015/04/22): RET 其结果是输出的命令为： {2015/04/22}\date 请高手给指点一下 [06:59] <^k^> ─> ，这到底是怎么回事？ zz: yangdawei.hit — 2015-04-22 14:58 [07:01] <freeflying> iMadper: 开始用HITT方式跑步了，真累 [07:02] <iMadper> freeflying: HIIT? [07:02] <freeflying> iMadper: high intensity interval training [07:06] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 在sda1上的EFI引导文件，可以boot sdb2上的系统嘛？ [07:07] * HowIsItGoing 妈蛋，没弄明白windows的EFI怎么搞，一直找不到系统的位置 [07:07] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 可以啊. [07:08] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: windows的你搞过嘛？ 需要改其他的配置不？ [07:08] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: sda1是个efi分区吧? 里面是windows的loader [07:08] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 问题是那个loader怎么定位windows, 我不知道... [07:09] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 现在就已经跟efi无关了, 都是ms自己的东西了, 要查那个loader怎么找到windows... [07:09] <iMadper> freeflying: 昂, 类得很 [07:10] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 对，是efi分区。 [07:10] <HowIsItGoing> 没找到windows的efi配置在哪里 [07:10] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 我也不知道... ... [07:10] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/a51d9d68jw1ereb8vqumjj20ov0ewtbk.jpg [07:10] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: .... [07:11] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/a51d9d68jw1ereb8sw2h7j20gk0dntao.jpg [07:11] <iMadper> .... [07:13] <freeflying> HowIsItGoing: 上新的mba吧 [07:13] <freeflying> HowIsItGoing: 妥妥得 [07:15] <HowIsItGoing> freeflying: 没钱 [07:18] <^k^> 新 新闻和通知 • 优麒麟15.04 发布派对活动 【4月25日，上海松江站】招募启动啦！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469709 优麒麟介绍: Ubuntu Kylin（优麒麟）是由CCN联合实验室支持和主导的开源操作系统项目，其宗旨是采用平台国际化与应用本地化融合的设计理念，通过定制本地化的桌面 [07:32] <nyfair> 靠，东华这种下三滥大学的人都能上去岩浆 [07:33] <nyfair> 我也要上去演讲 [07:33] <gebjgd> nyfair, 喷妹好 [07:34] <nyfair> gebjgd: 有问题，东华哪年入取分数线不和一本线持平的？ [07:34] <nyfair> gebjgd: 大学生本来就不值钱，这种大学还不够垃圾？ [07:34] <gebjgd> nyfair, 东华大学是哪 从来没听说过 [07:35] <gebjgd> @Dtiberium：=万一美国照着北京来了一发核弹把我朝上层建筑全都消灭了怎么办？=没关系，秦城里还有一整套领导班子。 [07:35] <gebjgd> 【宣传部门你就这样糊弄百姓的呀】崔永元：在2000年初，规定所有的稿件中不能出现‌‌“纳税人‌‌”三个字，我问：为什么？回答说：如果稿件总是出现‌‌“纳税人‌‌”三个字，那会让那些纳税人就知道自己是‌‌“纳税人‌‌”了！ [07:35] <gebjgd> @小阮在越南：你们说苏联是老大哥，结果珍宝岛战役爆发；你们说朝鲜是兄弟，结果朝鲜士兵越境杀人；你们说越南是同志，结果边境反击打了十年……现在，你们又说巴基斯坦是巴铁…… [07:35] <freeflying> nyfair: 喷妹 [07:36] <nyfair> 这人是傻逼啊，国家与国家之间只有利益，兄弟最多说说当下 [07:36] <nyfair> 崔永元那傻吊反转反出屎了 [07:37] <gebjgd> 老毕：你说人生最痛苦的事情是什么的吗？赵本山：人活着，钱没了。老毕：那都不算什么，赵本山：？老毕：人生最最痛苦的事情是～人正吃着饭呢，饭碗却没了！ [07:37] <gebjgd> 木子老龙：有一句耳熟能详的话，叫做端起碗来吃肉，放下筷子骂娘，用来形容那些吃党饭砸党锅的人。有意思的是，在毛时代，绝大多数人是吃不起肉的。现在有肉吃，托的是改革开放的福。一边吃着改革开放的肉，一边怀念着喂人民吃观音土的伟人，所谓吃饭砸锅，亦是如此。 [07:37] <nyfair> 你们有谁从没收到过税单 [07:37] <Yong_> 这么热闹的！！！ [07:37] <Yong_> 我的中文能正常显示么？谢谢了！ [07:37] <gebjgd> nyfair, 有啊 资本主义国家 每年一次 [07:38] <nyfair> 对啊 [07:46] <freeflying> O0XX|Qiong: http://2015.qconbeijing.com/ [07:46] <^k^> freeflying: ⇪ QCon北京2015 | 全球软件开发大会 [07:46] <O0XX|Qiong> freeflying: qcon不去 [07:46] <O0XX|Qiong> freeflying: 去不起 [07:46] <freeflying> O0XX|Qiong: 你没票啊 [07:46] <O0XX|Qiong> freeflying: 话说你又搞到票了? [07:47] <freeflying> O0XX|Qiong: 没有，我现在基本不出门了 [07:48] <O0XX|Qiong> freeflying: 我怎么会有票, 这么搞达商的会议 [07:53] <nyfair> 骗屌丝装逼费的傻逼俱乐部活动而已 [07:53] <nyfair> 我司年年干 [07:54] <freeflying> 喷妹走了啊 [07:54] <O0XX|Qiong> > iMadper + "对对对! " * 250 [07:55] <^k^> O0XX|Qiong: /tmp/execpad-bc787dc66809/source-bc787dc66809:1:in `block in <main>': undefined local variable or method `iMadper' for main:Object (NameError) from /tmp/execpad-bc787dc66809/source-bc787dc66809:1:in `call' from /tmp/execpad-bc787dc66809/source-bc787dc66809:1:in `<main>' => https://eval.in/316904 [07:55] <O0XX|Qiong> > "iMadper"" + "对对对! " * 250 [07:55] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 渣渣. [07:55] <^k^> O0XX|Qiong: /tmp/execpad-5cb15fa67b1d/source-5cb15fa67b1d:1: syntax error, unexpected tFID, expecting keyword_end p(lambda do &quot;iMadper&quot;&quot; + &quot;对对对! &quot; * 250 end.call) ^ /tmp/execpad-5cb15fa67b1d/source-5cb15fa67b1d:1: unterminated string meets end of file /tmp/execpad-5cb15fa67b1d/source-5cb15fa67b1d:1: syntax error, unexpected end-of-input, expec [07:55] <^k^> ─> ting keyword_end p(lambda do &quot;iMadper&quot;&quot; + &quot;对对对! &quot; * 250 end.call) ^ => https://eval.in … [07:55] <O0XX|Qiong> > "iMadper" + "对对对! " * 250 [07:55] <^k^> O0XX|Qiong: &quot;iMadper对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! [07:55] <^k^> ─> 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对 … [07:56] <iMadper> > ("O0XX|Qiong " + "对对对") * 250 [07:56] <^k^> iMadper: &quot;O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O [07:56] <O0XX|Qiong> > 'iMadper' + " 对对对!" * 250 [07:56] <^k^> O0XX|Qiong: &quot;iMadper 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对! 对对对 [07:56] <iMadper> > ("O0XX|Qiong " + "对对对") * 250 [07:56] * O0XX|Qiong 这下完美了 [07:56] <Yong_> 这是伐的什么啊？ [07:56] <^k^> iMadper: &quot;O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O0XX|Qiong 对对对O [07:56] <iMadper> > "伐开心" * 10 [07:56] <^k^> iMadper: &quot;伐开心伐开心伐开心伐开心伐开心伐开心伐开心伐开心伐开心伐开心&quot; => https://eval.in/316913 [08:00] * O0XX|Qiong 文科生：“水刚好在0度冻成冰，又刚好在100度沸腾，真是好巧啊！” 高情商理科学霸：“嗯，而且在1个大气压下，1卡路里刚好能让1克水升高1摄氏度呢。” 文科生：“卧槽大自然太神奇了！” [08:00] * O0XX|Qiong momo roylez [08:01] <roylez> O0XX|Qiong: 渣渣 [08:02] <Yong_> 哈哈，这不是人们自己定义温度么？ [08:34] <prpr> Yong_: 所以你情商低 [08:34] <Yong_> 啊！我情商很低？ [08:35] <prpr> Yong_: 笨蛋，情商这个单词就是没有智商的某个傻叉教授提出的 [08:35] <prpr> Yong_: 网上又那个傻叉教授的傻叉言论集锦，推荐读下 [08:36] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-woman-who-ate-chernobyl-s-apples [08:36] <^k^> O0XX|Qiong: ⇪ The Woman Who Ate Chernobyl's Apples | Atlas Obscura [08:36] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 小视频 [08:37] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: nsfw? [08:37] <O0XX|Qiong> 安全 [08:37] <prpr> http://www.acfun.tv/a/ac1851386 [08:37] <^k^> prpr: ⇪ 一年72亿美元 腾讯超索尼游戏收入全球第一 - AcFun弹幕视频网 - 中国宅文化基地 [08:38] <prpr> 企鹅帝国这么叼？ [08:46] <BuMangHuo> 色当当呢 [08:51] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 最近P很忙…… : 今儿排队去ATM机取钱,忍不住在里面放了一个屁,味儿巨怪无比。 出来的时候,隐约听见后面那哥们进去后传来一句:"我操,谁在这拉屎了?" [08:52] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/e0645f27jw1er560t08fej20hs6iux6p.jpg [08:52] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: tl;dr [08:55] <badegg> iface eth0 inet static [08:55] <badegg> iface eth0 inet manual [08:55] <badegg> 问下，这两个有啥区别？ [08:55] <huntxu> O0XX|Qiong: 100卡路裏就可以升到100攝氏度嗎？ [08:56] <O0XX|Qiong> huntxu: 1g水 [08:56] <huntxu> O0XX|Qiong: 原來卡路裏是這麽定義的 [08:56] <O0XX|Qiong> huntxu: 定义? 难道你不觉得非常巧合嘛?大自然是多么的鬼斧神工啊? [08:57] <huntxu> O0XX|Qiong: 對啊，我最近正在研究曼妥思加可樂 [08:57] <huntxu> O0XX|Qiong: 准備寫篇論文去爭取明年的諾貝爾獎 [08:57] <O0XX|Qiong> huntxu: 实验成功了? [08:58] <huntxu> O0XX|Qiong: 實驗很成功啊，不過還沒大規模部署，樣本目前比較小 [09:01] <onlylove_> 按照黑市1美元兑大约8000朝鲜元的汇率，相当于44美元。朝鲜官方汇率为1美元兑96朝鲜元。 [09:01] <onlylove_> 这汇率真扯 [09:06] <O0XX|Qiong> onlylove_: 你要是认识三胖能换美金, 可以去倒汇, 发一笔 [09:07] <onlylove_> O0XX|Qiong: 黑市买了币，然后官方换美金？ [09:08] <O0XX|Qiong> onlylove_: 对啊, 中国外汇管制没开放前, 这样发的人不要太多啊 [09:09] * O0XX|Qiong 困... [09:09] <happyaron> 已经快要吃吐了 [09:09] <onlylove_> happyaron: 你在吃啥 [09:09] <happyaron> onlylove_: 这里的饭太黑暗 [09:09] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 拜小dd壕 [09:09] <happyaron> can cook 的地方，真不是盖的 [09:10] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 来了你就知道多么can cook了 [09:10] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 你也是UE的人了，有机会的 [09:10] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 莫要羞辱我们PES [09:10] <onlylove_> happyaron: 诶，你知足吧，要不来我司餐厅吃几天？或者我司楼下度娘餐厅？ [09:10] <happyaron> onlylove_: 度娘餐厅我吃过啊，和我这里比真的是美味 [09:11] <onlylove_> happyaron: 不，我司楼下的度娘和度娘不是一回事 [09:11] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 昨天某人发了个邮件，大家都UE了 [09:11] <onlylove_> happyaron: 你可以问 O0XX|Qiong [09:11] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 这个我看了啊... [09:11] <happyaron> onlylove_: 度娘食堂么？ [09:11] <happyaron> onlylove_: 度娘食堂很好啊 [09:11] <onlylove_> happyaron: 嗯 [09:11] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 但是这明显是羞辱我们PES啊 [09:11] <palomino|working> pes?_? [09:11] <O0XX|Qiong> onlylove_: 你们楼下那个不是正经度娘 [09:11] <palomino|working> 实况足球? [09:11] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 都不存在了，还羞辱啥 [09:12] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 好吧... [09:12] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 你还补刀 [09:12] <happyaron> lol [09:12] <onlylove_> O0XX|Qiong: 你要给 happyaron讲 [09:12] <onlylove_> O0XX|Qiong: 我当然知道 [09:12] <onlylove_> O0XX|Qiong: 不然我就不会每天和一堆度娘员工排队了 [09:12] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: pes都混到给ue打工了..也真是惨 [09:13] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 没有pes了喂喂喂 [09:13] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 大家都是UE的 [09:13] <O0XX|Qiong> onlylove_: 话说你还能去度娘餐厅? [09:13] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 毛, 你老板到CEO几级, 我老板到CEO几级 [09:13] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 这是降了啊 [09:13] <onlylove_> O0XX|Qiong: 不，是度娘员工来我司餐厅，而且我楼下的度娘餐厅我确实可以去 [09:14] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 但应该没有PES这个名字了把 [09:14] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 有吧 [09:14] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 我老板上面是VP [09:14] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 貌似要改名？ [09:14] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 以前我老板上面也是VP [09:14] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 现在上面是你老板 [09:14] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 不是啊 [09:14] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 现在上面是前vp [09:14] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 我老板的上面的上面 [09:15] <happyaron> en... [09:15] <happyaron> 但你们转组是不是更容易了 [09:15] <happyaron> 快来给我组打工 [09:16] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 去不起..贵组太高大上 [09:16] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 你要找霓虹美女，肯定不会看得上我组 [09:16] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 要去美女老板组才是正道 [09:17] <onlylove_> 擦，毛破烂公司，接个电话，看了我的简历，连我性别都没搞清楚！ [09:17] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 那个多处编辑的插件叫啥来着， 比如同时修改变量名字 [09:17] <happyaron> che [09:17] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: :%s [09:18] <happyaron> cherrot: 拜见萌萌哒首壕妹子壕 [09:18] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 针对python的 jedi-vim [09:18] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 那只是修改，比如要在多个位置加一个单词 [09:18] <onlylove_> BuMangHuo: 千人斩这两天在用vim？ [09:19] <BuMangHuo> onlylove_: 对啊 [09:21] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: :%s/aaa/aaa bbb/g [09:21] <onlylove_> O0XX|Qiong: 你这样就把全局改了，人没说改全部，就说多个位置 [09:21] <happyaron> openstack 怎么改instance的配置？ [09:22] <happyaron> 太屎了这东西还想和vmware竞争呢？ [09:22] <happyaron> 去屎吧去屎吧 [09:22] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: ... [09:22] <palomino|working> ... [09:22] * palomino|working momo happyaron [09:23] <onlylove_> happyaron: 玩毛虚拟化，穷人才玩，有钱人机器不够了直接买新机器 [09:23] <palomino|working> 前几天家里升级15.04,搜狗输入法启动不起来了 happyaron [09:23] <O0XX|Qiong> HowIsItGoing: ^^^ [09:23] <palomino|working> 然后才发现我用的还是37 happyaron [09:23] <happyaron> onlylove_: 虚拟化还是好 [09:24] <happyaron> palomino|working: 先别升级最新版，刚发现了点问题 [09:24] <happyaron> onlylove_: 土豪也可以玩虚拟化 [09:24] <palomino|working> O_O happyaron [09:24] <palomino|working> 会导致...? [09:25] <O0XX|Qiong> palomino|working: 不孕不育 [09:25] <happyaron> palomino|working: 词频有点问题 [09:25] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: ... [09:25] <palomino|working> 哦..那没事儿 happyaron [09:25] <happyaron> palomino|working: 问题有点明显 [09:25] <palomino|working> 另外..我造错了的词组怎么删除啊... [09:25] <happyaron> palomino|working: O0XX|Qiong 知道 [09:25] <happyaron> palomino|working: rm -rf ~/.config/SogouPY [09:25] <palomino|working> :O [09:26] <palomino|working> thanks [09:26] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 你说的对, 有石猴 [09:26] <onlylove> happyaron: 太凶残了 [09:26] <onlylove> palomino|working: 这样就把你造的全部都干掉了 [09:26] <palomino|working> .... [09:26] <happyaron> 产品童鞋说，删自造词，要用鼠标点一下丢出去，就删了，然后 FJKong 孔叔叔直接哭晕在厕所 [09:26] <palomino|working> oh,no... [09:31] <onlylove_> palomino|working: 我记得早期的搜狗是类似CSV还是啥格式的词库，可以直接记事本搞的 [09:31] <onlylove_> palomino|working: 后来不行了，不过貌似还是有办法，再后来忘了 [09:32] <palomino|working> :-/ [09:32] <onlylove_> palomino|working: 反正搜狗有工具让你编辑词库就是了 [09:32] <onlylove_> palomino|working: 不过搜狗有个问题就是，未登录用户，词库会不定时清掉 [09:33] <palomino|working> .... [09:33] <onlylove_> palomino|working: 我理解不了，存储在本地的，为何要删掉 [09:33] <palomino|working> 不定时.. [09:33] <onlylove_> palomino|working: 也许时间太久，我记不住，反正会掉 [09:33] <onlylove_> palomino|working: 我掉过好几次了 [09:33] <happyaron> onlylove_: 现在可以用QQ登录了，登录也没那么痛苦了 [09:33] <palomino|working> 话说哪里有登录啊.. [09:34] <onlylove_> happyaron: 哦，我现在不用丫的了，后台偷我流量 [09:34] <happyaron> lol [09:34] <onlylove_> happyaron: 占我带宽 [09:34] <happyaron> onlylove_: 换系统输入法了？ [09:34] <onlylove_> happyaron: 紫光，不过这货略笨，还是加加好用 [09:34] <palomino|working> ?_? [09:34] <palomino|working> windows上吧 [09:34] <happyaron> onlylove_: 我还是用搜狗，但是因为其实很少用，所以都差不多 [09:34] <onlylove_> palomino|working: 别看我，我linux上没输入法 [09:35] <palomino|working> 这样 [09:35] <onlylove_> happyaron: 很少用也偷流量啊 [09:35] <happyaron> onlylove_: linux上只能 eat my own dog food 了 [09:35] <palomino|working> 我直接用windows自带的.. [09:35] <happyaron> onlylove_: 不在乎 [09:35] <palomino|working> 不过后来换google了 [09:35] <happyaron> palomino|working: 那个太难用了 [09:35] <onlylove_> happyaron: 最要命的是占带宽，流量小事情 [09:35] <happyaron> palomino|working: google 的拼音现在维护状态也不咋好 [09:35] <palomino|working> 最难用的莫过于shift切换中英文吧!! [09:35] <happyaron> onlylove_: 我这里占点带宽也美所谓 [09:35] <onlylove_> palomino|working: 微软新版的拼音不错 [09:35] <happyaron> 没所谓 [09:35] <palomino|working> 我输入代码的时候总给我捣乱 [09:35] <palomino|working> google的好歹能关掉 [09:35] <happyaron> 哈哈 [09:36] <onlylove_> happyaron: 我受不了，我一共100K左右下行 [09:36] <happyaron> onlylove_: 3g? [09:38] <dexphilo> 还是尽早把shift切换改成control把 [09:38] <dexphilo> 然后一大堆选项都关掉 [09:38] <palomino|working> 改成ctrl也一样不行,我也经常按ctrl [09:39] <palomino|working> capslock对我来说是个没用的键 [09:39] <dexphilo> shift讨厌的原因，是我们总要用shift输入符号和大写字母 [09:39] <dexphilo> control只是用来复制粘贴的，使用频率会少些 [09:39] <palomino|working> ctrl也总得用来输入各种快捷键... [09:39] <palomino|working> 不不不...很多的... [09:39] <dexphilo> 另外，control和capslock应该换一下 [09:40] <dexphilo> 会爽很多 [09:40] <palomino|working> 哦,这个我完全不需要 [09:40] <palomino|working> 因为我是手掌按ctrl派的... [09:40] <palomino|working> 换了我倒会困扰 [09:40] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 小dd现在是咱们老板了 [09:40] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 哟??? [09:40] <iMadper> happyaron: 老板, 给我涨工资啊! [09:41] <happyaron> iMadper: 好啊今年涨薪1% [09:41] <iMadper> happyaron: 边儿呆着去 [09:41] <happyaron> lol [09:41] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 我老板现在还是joey啊 [09:41] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: joey的老板也不是aron啊 [09:41] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 我说层次 [09:41] <palomino|working> 老板^n [09:41] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 我又没说直接report [09:46] <happyaron> https://twitter.com/ozgurakgun/status/587005649860562944/photo/1 [09:46] <palomino|working> LOL [09:46] <palomino|working> 太形象了 [09:47] <sennn> 哪些人不适合做码农? [09:47] <sennn> 弱弱的问一句 [09:47] <happyaron> 我 [09:47] <palomino|working> 我 [09:47] <happyaron> palomino|working: 实在不能更赞啊 [09:47] <onlylove__> 我 [09:48] <happyaron> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDH7wI2VEAEfo_g.png [09:48] <onlylove__> happyaron: 话说你俩在说啥 cc palomino|working [09:48] <palomino|working> 他刚贴的链接嘛 [09:49] <onlylove__> palomino|working: 不，你俩的那我字 [09:49] <palomino|working> 领导经验丰富 happyaron [09:49] <onlylove__> palomino|working: 感觉不太好的样子 [09:49] <palomino|working> 哦,sennn的问话嘛 [09:49] <happyaron> onlylove__: https://twitter.com/ozgurakgun/status/587005649860562944/photo/1 [09:49] <onlylove__> happyaron: 不敢爬，你知道的 [09:50] <onlylove__> happyaron: 虽然不想在这继续下去，但是没新工作，还指望他给几个饭前 [09:50] <sennn> 码农是不是要有很强的耐心? [09:50] <palomino|working> 最重要的 [09:50] <palomino|working> 得有一个强壮的脖子 [09:50] <sennn> 哈哈 [09:50] <onlylove__> happyaron: 刚有个HR打电话给我，性别都没搞明白，受不了了 [09:50] <palomino|working> 不然颈椎病在等着你... [09:50] <sennn> 我没有毅力 啊 [09:51] <onlylove__> palomino|working: 这个问题很多职业都有 [09:51] <O0XX|Qiong> palomino|working: 马叔, 话说很多行业都对电脑了 [09:51] <palomino|working> 是啊 [09:51] <O0XX|Qiong> palomino|working: 为啥就 码农 脖子硬呢? [09:51] <palomino|working> 所以健壮的颈部肌肉是必不可少的 [09:51] <sennn> 哈哈 [09:51] <palomino|working> 因为加班也对着电脑,回家还是对着电脑啊! [09:51] <palomino|working> 有妹子的还好点 [09:51] <happyaron> palomino|working: 强壮的脖子实在太重要了 [09:52] <palomino|working> 没妹子的除了睡觉就是电脑了! [09:52] <happyaron> sennn: ^^^ [09:52] <palomino|working> 我连吃饭都在看电脑! [09:52] <palomino|working> 是啊 happyaron [09:52] <O0XX|Qiong> palomino|working: 单身马? [09:52] <palomino|working> 好羡慕橄榄球运动员的脖子 [09:52] <palomino|working> 已婚马 O0XX|Qiong [09:53] <happyaron> palomino|working sennn 有的人还得有强壮的腰 [09:53] <happyaron> onlylove__: 继续找机会 [09:53] <happyaron> onlylove__: 加油加油 [09:53] <sennn> 英语不好 的我表示作码农很难,以后不再作码农了! [09:53] <palomino|working> 是白天码农晚上牛郎的双重职业者么? happyaron [09:54] <sennn> 只好换行业了...... [09:54] <palomino|working> 那个... [09:54] <palomino|working> 我同学也不会英文 [09:54] <O0XX|Qiong> palomino|working: 话说牛郎是干什么的? [09:54] <O0XX|Qiong> palomino|working: 总听你们说 [09:54] <palomino|working> 大学因为四级没过没拿到毕业证 [09:54] <palomino|working> 但是吧 [09:54] <palomino|working> 并不妨碍人家做码农做到身家过亿... [09:55] <sennn> 哇噻,过亿,牛X [09:55] <O0XX|Qiong> palomino|working: 拜 [09:55] <happyaron> palomino|working: 有的只有白天一个职业，腰也扛不住 [09:55] <palomino|working> ..... happyaron [09:55] <palomino|working> 得买把好椅子 happyaron [09:55] <happyaron> palomino|working: 坐姿不好腰跪了的有的是 [09:55] <happyaron> 嗯嗯 [09:55] <palomino|working> 我看网上人都推荐embody happyaron [09:56] <happyaron> 那是啥 [09:56] <palomino|working> 我想买,但是又嫌贵... [09:56] <happyaron> 算了土豪马都嫌贵，我肯定买不起 [09:56] <palomino|working> http://www.hermanmiller.cn/products/seating/performance-work-chairs/embody-chairs.html happyaron [09:56] <palomino|working> 这个 [09:56] <O0XX|Qiong> palomino|working: 你公司什么椅子? [09:56] <palomino|working> 500块钱的破转椅 [09:56] <palomino|working> 我整天担心被爆菊 [09:56] <happyaron> palomino|working: 这货多少钱啊 [09:56] <palomino|working> 而且我还坐坏了2把 [09:57] <palomino|working> 低配版8000多 happyaron [09:57] <palomino|working> 高配12000还是13000的 [09:57] <happyaron> palomino|working: 这么贵。。。 [09:57] <palomino|working> 是啊 [09:57] <palomino|working> 所以我没舍得买啊 [09:57] <^k^> palomino|working:. .., 别刷屏，超过6行 大段文字 请贴至paste.ubuntu.com +q 23s [09:57] <^k^> palomino|working: ⇪ Embody - 办公椅 - Herman Miller [09:57] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 买买买 [09:57] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 买不起 [09:58] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 你可是跟我老板一个级别啊 [09:58] <palomino|working> 似乎是液压杆,再也不用担心被爆菊了 happyaron [09:58] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 怎么可能 [09:58] <O0XX|Qiong> palomino|working: 破马叔买一个吧 [09:58] <happyaron> palomino|working: 哈哈哈 [09:58] <O0XX|Qiong> palomino|working: 邮寄到我公司 [09:58] <happyaron> palomino|working: 破马叔买一个 [09:58] <palomino|working> .... [09:58] <palomino|working> 太贵了... [09:58] <happyaron> palomino|working: 你给他预定一个，到付给他就好 [09:58] <palomino|working> ...... [09:59] <happyaron> palomino|working: 这点忙破马叔还是可以帮他的 [09:59] <palomino|working> 这玩意貌似得现付+预订 [09:59] <happyaron> 那没戏 [09:59] <palomino|working> 本来我是每天都努力买彩票 happyaron [10:00] <O0XX|Qiong> palomino|working: happyaron http://item.jd.com/1353000883.html [10:00] <palomino|working> 结果这一整顿 [10:00] <palomino|working> 我致富的机会没了 [10:00] <O0XX|Qiong> palomino|working: 可以去小店里面买啊 [10:00] <palomino|working> 哎呦我去 [10:00] <O0XX|Qiong> palomino|working: 还能研究下走势什么的 [10:00] <palomino|working> 离家太远.. O0XX|Qiong [10:00] <palomino|working> 走路得好几分钟了 [10:00] <huntxu> happyaron: 你要結婚了啊？ [10:00] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 你要結婚了啊？ [10:00] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 男孩女孩? [10:01] <palomino|working> 看了会儿c++11的书,果然我太老,智力不够用的了... happyaron [10:01] <^k^> O0XX|Qiong: ⇪ 红木家具红木电脑桌实木电脑桌台式笔记本电脑台100%非洲黄花梨木【图片 价格 品牌 报价】-京东 pp: 61000.00 [10:02] <sennn> 说个奇怪的经历,请高手看看怎么回事,可否? [10:03] <O0XX|Qiong> sennn: 可以, 这频道里 相面 , 手相, 情感分析, 情感陪护 都有 [10:03] <palomino|working> ... [10:04] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 来一局? [10:04] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 下班了啊 [10:04] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 下班了完全可以来一局啊 [10:04] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 不, 弄好这个俺就走了... [10:06] <sennn> 有没有人有同样的经历 [10:10] <hoxily> 你不说经历，别人怎么知道？ [10:11] <O0XX|Qiong> sennn: 对对对 [10:20] <yunfan> onlylove_: 只是可能 我不敢去扫 怕抓起来 [10:25] <yunfan> onlylove_: 小心被送进苦窑 [10:25] <yunfan> cc onlylove [10:28] <sennn> http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/LkXjebAe5tU/ 我的嘴里被植入东西后的伤疤,我相信是外星人干的 [10:28] <^k^> ⇪ ti: 外星人植入手术4年后的伤疤_土豆_高清视频在线观看 [10:31] <onlylove_> yunfan: 好吧，确实有这种危险…… [10:31] <onlylove_> yunfan: 看我司鱼唇的IT在给妹子调试网络，我在很认真的想，是不是继续干IT去 [10:31] <onlylove_> yunfan: 问题是IT工资低诶 [10:32] <onlylove_> yunfan: 想想今天某文化传媒找IT的，连我性别都搞错，很郁闷 [10:34] <^k^> 新 桌面特效 • 关于conky的一些问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469712 最近新装了ubuntu 15.04 beta2 但是在配置conky的过程中出现了一些问题。 第一： 运行conky的时候会如下报错 Code: ubunbo@ubunbo-desktop:~$ conky Conky: llua_load: /home/ubunbo/.conky/clock_rings.lua:200: module 'cairo' not found:    no field packa [10:34] <^k^> ─> ge.preload['cairo']    no file './cairo.lua'    no file '/usr/local/share/lua/5.1/cairo.lua'    no file '/usr/l … [10:38] <onlylove> 下班 [10:40] <sennn> 这里有医生吗? [10:52] <prpr> sennn: 你吼啊，我是心理医师啦 [10:52] <prpr> sennn: 最近有什么难言之隐啊 [10:53] <sennn> prpr, 你懂外科吗? [10:54] <sennn> prpr, 在吗? [10:57] <gebjgd> sennn, 包皮过长？ [10:57] <sennn> 什么呀! [10:58] <sennn> gebjgd, 不是这类问题 [10:58] <prpr> sennn: 前列腺敏感异常？ [10:59] <sennn> prpr,什么呀..... [10:59] <sennn> prpr, 你可懂外科? [11:14] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: ping [11:15] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 做甚 [11:15] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: canonistack上的问题找谁只吃？ [11:15] <happyaron> 支持 [11:15] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 我们 [11:15] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 怎么提交单子，还是直接找你就行 [11:15] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: support.canonical.com [11:15] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 我的一个instance目前一直显示snapshotting，任何操作都做不了 [11:16] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 八成儿存储又出问题了。 [11:16] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: support选项选哪个 [11:16] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 我连不上后面的物理机器，没法搞，你发ticket [11:16] <happyaron> 选项选哪个 [11:16] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 哈？ 选哪个？ [11:16] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 啥选项 [11:16] <happyaron> support.canonical.com上 [11:17] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 你看到的是个紫色的界面还是Ubuntu风格的页面？ [11:17] <happyaron> I am looking for support with后面的选项 [11:17] <happyaron> ubuntu [11:17] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 那没戏了，你提交不了case [11:17] <happyaron> 恩 [11:17] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 不过可以试试， [11:17] <happyaron> 那是去#is里骂街么 [11:17] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 都有啥选项？ SSO？ login？ [11:18] <HowIsItGoing> password？ [11:18] <happyaron> Single sign-on support form [11:18] <HowIsItGoing> 随便选个提交吧，我看看能不能给你改过来 [11:18] <happyaron> 1. reseting password 2.canonical support portal 3. logging in [11:18] <happyaron> 提交了 [11:18] <HowIsItGoing> 选2 [11:19] <happyaron> 选了，提交了 [11:19] <happyaron> 卧槽太坑爹了，跟老板申请换地方 [11:19] <happyaron> RESERVATION r-0d8vlhqb a97931c8f87f4b65a1278d9e16a2cb94 default [11:19] <happyaron> INSTANCE i-0000d74a ami-00000944 162.213.34.129 sogoupinyin2 running canonical 0 cpu4-ram8-disk10-ephemeral20 2014-06-22T03:07:31.000Z nova 162.213.34.129 10.55.60.204 instance-store [11:20] <HowIsItGoing> 你啥也没写啊…… 难道没地方写comments？ [11:20] <happyaron> 没有地方写 [11:20] <happyaron> 只能填名字和邮箱 [11:21] <happyaron> 提交了之后说有人会联系我 [11:21] <happyaron> Thank you for your interest in Canonical Technical Services (CTS). [11:21] <happyaron> A member of the CTS team will be in touch shortly to discuss your needs. [11:22] <HowIsItGoing> 算了，你发邮件到support@吧，不然即便我给你改了case type，你还是看不到 [11:22] <happyaron> 好吧 [11:22] <happyaron> support@c.c? [11:22] <HowIsItGoing> 。 [11:25] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 顺路告诉他们把你的support portal设置好，你现在那个portal不对，这个只是给免费用户提SSO问题的地方 [11:28] <happyaron> 好 [11:28] <yunfan> http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/387633.htm 这个很棒 [11:28] <^k^> yunfan: ⇪ [视频]Virtue Pedalist电力/人力混合代步车 开始众筹_IT与交通_cnBeta.COM [11:31] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: #is -> #canonical-support, 不知道接下来要到哪呢 [11:32] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: #sts [11:33] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 在这个频道把你的问题再发一次 [11:33] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 和你同部门 深感荣幸 [11:33] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 壕你去UE了？ [11:34] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 贵部门是新一代的高富帅 [11:34] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 没, 去UES了 [11:34] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: UES是啥？ [11:34] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 贵部门是真的高富帅 [11:34] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 膜拜膜拜 [11:34] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 擦，穷到开会都在东欧开了 [11:35] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: HowIsItGoing cloud妥妥的出现在各种头排啊 [11:35] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 我们电话开会呢 [11:35] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 乃们总有米帝sprint啊 [11:35] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 是不是感觉很跌份儿? [11:35] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 头排，一般比不了 [11:35] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 下大雪的季节去啊... [11:36] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 有啥跌的，赶紧抱大腿才是正经 [11:36] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 也挺好啊 [11:36] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 今年头牌显然是phone啊 [11:36] * QiongMangHuo 抱住 happyaron 的大腿! [11:36] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: phone排第三 [11:36] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 才怪 [11:36] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 跟cts比，phone也要稍逊风骚 [11:36] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: happyaron …… [11:36] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 没cts了 [11:36] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 像我们UE这些，那就是一堆土鳖 [11:37] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 比土鳖还得看我PES [11:37] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 贵UE才是真土壕 [11:37] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 说UE都代表了 [11:37] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 跟他们那些高富帅比，我们都是土鳖 [11:37] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 你们是真的新贵 [11:38] * QiongMangHuo 总之, 抱住 happyaron 的大腿! [11:38] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 抱住 HowIsItGoing 才对 [11:38] * HowIsItGoing 总之, 抱住 happyaron 的大腿! [11:38] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 他太胖 抱不住 [11:39] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 我都在琢磨咋抱住他的大腿，快跟进 [11:40] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 哦你们现在叫sts对吧 [11:41] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 你果然腐了, 还去想画面 [11:41] <happyaron> 画画？ [11:41] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: . [11:48] * QiongMangHuo Debian 8要发布了好开心, 周末迁移系统到UEFI+GPT+Btrfs! [11:49] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 开不了SB不开心 [11:49] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 啥? [11:49] <happyaron> secure boot [11:50] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 哦, debian好像没有signed的内核? [11:50] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 没有 [11:51] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 我是secure boot脑残粉啊 [11:51] <happyaron> 让我非常郁闷 [11:51] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 花99$就解决了 [11:52] * lainme Debian 8要发布了好开心 [11:52] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 这是政策问题，C社说可以给一直出这99$，但Debian不要。 [11:52] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 你自己签你自己的 lol [11:53] <WuSiYu> debian 8下我的显卡驱动不能正常工作...所以不敢更,源已经改成7"专用"的 [11:53] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 内核sign了才行啊，总不能一更新就自己从头折腾一次 [11:55] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 没见到启用SB有啥特别的收益 [11:55] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 至少内核boot起来时是安全的 [11:56] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 对Windows来说这个可是大大的好处，基本可以做到百毒不侵 [11:57] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 只是不会出内核级别的吧, 其它病毒该侵还是侵 [11:57] <QiongMangHuo> VxP ? [11:57] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: M$ 的系统组件都会被内核签名检查，加载一个签名过的杀毒软件模块事情就都处理了 [11:58] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 不会有处理不掉的病毒，也无法hook进系统启动早期 [11:58] <QiongMangHuo> 嗷 [11:59] <happyaron> 这方面Linux还是渣渣 [12:02] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 有360这种货，肯定好不了 [12:02] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 丫一方面能拿到微软的签名，另一方面能去签恶意软件 [12:02] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • 求助:grub不能进入的问题。 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469714 问题描述：电脑安装的的win7+Ubuntu1404。今天上午Ubuntu提示升级后点同意后更新，关机后再开机，显示windows启动管理器，默认情况是进入管理菜单中的Ubuntu，然后显示grub启动菜单，选择grub菜单中的Ubuntu后 [12:03] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 那样他就死定了，跟CNNIC证书下场一样 [12:03] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 微软会像G家那么强势么？ [12:04] <badegg> 问下各位 [12:04] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 而且360本身就是恶意软件啊 [12:04] <badegg> linux下面，无线网卡能不能即拿来上网，同时作为无线热点？ [12:04] <badegg> 类似于window下面这样的 [12:06] <badegg> :-D [12:06] <QiongMangHuo> win下可以? [12:14] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 请问用小容量优盘引导，然后利用ntfs分区中的多个大容量ISO如何安装系统？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469715 有一台笔记本（没有光驱，硬盘是可拔以插式的，抽出来就可以直接连到台式机的硬盘座上）。 这个硬盘分成了两部分，一部分用来安装linux，另一 [12:18] <badegg> 是啊 [12:18] <badegg> QiongMangHuo: windows下面的那样 [12:18] <badegg> 所谓的承载网络 [12:19] <badegg> QiongMangHuo: http://www.zhihu.com/question/24961490 [12:19] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Linux 如何连接着 Wi-Fi 的同时创建热点？ - 路由器 - 知乎 [12:19] <badegg> 这里有人问了一样的问题 [12:19] <badegg> 我现在就像要这样 [12:19] <badegg> 但是看起来，似乎没人知道 [12:20] <badegg> 莫非中文linux界就没人弄过吗？ [12:22] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • ubuntu装在u盘里无法引导启动 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469716 在ubuntu官网下载了最新的64位iso并用ultraiso用usb-hdd+写入了一个u盘做安装盘，uefi引导进入安装ubuntu到另一个8G的u盘。安装过程无异常但重启后发现无法引导8G的u盘，分区是分的500M的ufi分区，剩下分ext4 / [12:45] <zeon> 请问 哪位有好用的网络相册php源码可以分享 [12:46] <WuSiYu> 没玩过相册,不过你可以在开源中国上搜搜,应该能找到 [12:48] <cherrot> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6248231/git-rebase-after-previous-git-merge 前排围观用户名 [12:48] <^k^> cherrot: ⇪ git rebase after previous git merge - Stack Overflow [13:00] <onlylove> cherrot: 这谁，想把stack overflow拖下水么 [13:02] <cherrot> onlylove, 有意思 [13:04] <onlylove> cherrot: 顺便说，我觉得那两件事完全没放一起的必要 [13:04] <cherrot> onlylove, git rebase 和 merge? [13:05] <onlylove> cherrot: 用户名 [13:05] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 求问，master分支到dev分支以前一直是merge 现在想换成rebase 好弄么？ [13:05] <cherrot> onlylove, 说明那人sb [13:06] <onlylove> cherrot: 我觉得那只是一种博同情的方式 [13:07] <onlylove> cherrot: 毕竟从表面猛地一看，很像 [13:07] <cherrot> onlylove, 我只想讨论git =。= [13:08] <onlylove> cherrot: 我不会git [13:08] <onlylove> cherrot: svn也不会 [13:08] <cherrot> onlylove, 只是见到了个奇葩用户名而已 lol [13:08] <onlylove> cherrot: 我觉得git这事情，你可以弄个邮件问下脱袜子本人 [13:21] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • 求助！ubuntu启动ubuntu-tweak出错 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469717 如题，启动ubuntu-tweak出错，详细如下： read@read:~$ ubuntu-tweak Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/ubuntu-tweak", line 92, in on_startup from ubuntutweak.main import UbuntuTweakWindow File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ub [13:21] <^k^> ─> untutweak/main.py", line 32, in <module> from ubuntutweak.apps import AppsPage File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages … [13:23] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • 求助！ubuntu启动ubuntu-tweak出错 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469718 如题，启动ubuntu-tweak出错，详细如下： read@read:~$ ubuntu-tweak Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/ubuntu-tweak", line 92, in on_startup from ubuntutweak.main import UbuntuTweakWindow File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ub [13:23] <^k^> ─> untutweak/main.py", line 32, in <module> from ubuntutweak.apps import AppsPage File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages … [13:39] <jusss> hoxily: 有些异常类在docs.python.org里写出来了,怎么dir() help()时没有? [13:40] <hoxily> 不知道啊 [13:40] <hoxily> jusss: 看一下 help(dir) help(help)的说明 [13:41] <jusss> hoxily: socket.gaierror [13:55] <jusss> hoxily: except exception as e: 这个e是exception的实例? [13:55] <jzp113> 发现github太慢了 [13:55] <hoxily> jusss: 对 [13:56] <jusss> hoxily: 这个异常的信息能变成字串吗? [13:56] <hoxily> jusss: 能 [13:56] <jusss> hoxily: 我直接write(e)才发现e是个异常的实例不是字串 [13:57] <jusss> hoxily: 异常类里有方法? [13:57] <jusss> 感觉这种说法好怪异 [13:58] <jusss> 字串对象,异常对象,各种对象 [14:01] <jusss> socket.gaierror是个子类,它有个属性__str__返回字串 [14:02] <jusss> hoxily: 我可以这样调用吗? writefile.write(socket.gaierror.__str__()) ? [14:03] <hoxily> jusss: 不用那么麻烦，writefile.write(str(e)) [14:04] <jusss> hoxily: 是因为有__str__()这个方法才可以str()的吗? [14:05] <hoxily> jusss: 不太清楚，应该是 [14:05] <jusss> hoxily: socket.gaierror.args可以吗? [14:07] <hoxily> jusss: https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html?highlight=str#str [14:07] <jusss> "The except clause may specify a variable after the exception name. The variable is bound to an exception instance with the arguments stored in instance.args. For convenience, the exception instance defines __str__() so the arguments can be printed directly without having to reference .args." [14:08] <jusss> "单词大部分认识,组合到一起就不认识了" [14:08] <hoxily> 这段话不难懂吧 [14:09] <hoxily> except 语句可以指定一个变量于异常名之后。 [14:11] <hoxily> 这个变量绑定到一个异常实例，并且它的参数存储于 这个实例的 args 属性。为了方便，这个异常实例定义了 __str__ 方法，因此这些参数就能够被直接地打印出来，而不需要 .args 来引用。 [14:12] <hoxily> 英文实在太烂了，试试有道词典， [14:13] <hoxily> 哪里不懂点哪里。 [14:13] <hoxily> 机器翻译虽然怪怪的，但是你可以自己根据语感调整下翻译出来的语句顺序。 [14:14] <hoxily> 大部分情况是遇到不认识的单词而卡住。 [14:18] <jusss> hoxily: 类里面__init__()是实例创建时就运行, __str__()是 docs strings ?还是什么的记不住 [14:18] * jusss 记忆力超差 [14:18] <jusss> hoxily: 正常的类一般有几个__xx__()这种东东,都是什么用 [14:21] <hoxily> https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html?highlight=str#comparisons [14:22] <gfxmode> jusss: https://docs.python.org/2/reference/datamodel.html?highlight=__# [14:22] <^k^> ⇪ ti: 3. Data model — Python 2.7.10rc0 documentation [14:24] <hoxily> jusss: 这里有一些，https://docs.python.org/3/reference/datamodel.html#customization [14:24] <^k^> ⇪ ti: 3. Data model — Python 3.4.3 documentation [14:25] <jusss> hoxily: gfxmode 对于python的文档我只想说,真tmd全 [14:25] <jusss> 第一次遇到文档这么全的语言 [14:26] <gfxmode> jusss: 你用的Python2还是3？ [14:27] <happyaron> jusss: java也全啊 [14:28] <jusss> gfxmode: 3 [14:28] <jusss> happyaron: 我这没上升到学java的高度... [14:28] <happyaron> jusss: java不是应该学的第一门语言么？ [14:28] <jusss> happyaron: 一直很仰慕,就是没时间 [14:29] <happyaron> 。。。 [14:29] <jusss> happyaron: 第一次送给了C [14:29] <gfxmode> MSDN 的C#文档写得很矬，不容易看 [14:29] <jusss> happyaron: 天朝的大部分人第一次都是送给了C吧 [14:29] <happyaron> jusss: 或者pascal? [14:29] <hoxily> 明明是 basic [14:30] <hoxily> 高中的数学书里，描述算法用了 basic [14:30] <jusss> happyaron: 大学早不教pascal了把 [14:30] <yeahnoob> 我的第一次送给了logo [14:30] <kandu> yeahnoob: 前辈好 [14:30] * jusss 为什么都送给了C呢?因为大学有全国计算机二级C语言考试 [14:31] <happyaron> jusss: 我又不是大学学的 [14:31] <archl> jusss, happyaron 是学霸 [14:31] <jusss> happyaron: 你是特殊 [14:31] <archl> kandu, 。。。也叫我前辈吧。我也是logo [14:32] <jusss> happyaron: 你十几岁都当dd了,我们十几岁都还不知道debian是啥,不能和我们比 [14:32] * archl 拜拜 kandu [14:32] <happyaron> archl: 我不是学霸，我是学弱 [14:32] <archl> happyaron, 学弱是什么 [14:32] <kandu> archl: 前辈好 [14:32] <jusss> happyaron: 我刚来这时,貌似还看过一篇你写的如何成为debian的打包人员,好早以前了 [14:33] <jusss> gfxmode: 现在工作环境都用2还是3? [14:34] <happyaron> archl: http://imgsrc.baidu.com/forum/pic/item/f1bc2edda3cc7cd9453a54103901213fb90e91f3.jpg [14:34] <happyaron> jusss: :) [14:34] <archl> kandu 大神太客气了。 [14:34] <happyaron> jusss: 学就直接上3 [14:34] <archl> happyaron, 哦。我是学渣 [14:34] <jusss> 我因为arch默认是3,就学了3,然后发现网上都是2的代码,然后成23一起学 :( [14:34] <happyaron> jusss: 2.7兼容大部分3的语法 [14:35] <happyaron> archl: 学弱是努力学也学不好 [14:35] <happyaron> archl: 学渣至少没有努力而已 [14:35] <archl> happyaron, 学渣最无用 [14:35] <happyaron> archl: 学渣可以做别的 [14:36] <happyaron> 学弱没机会 [14:36] <archl> happyaron, 为啥？你骗人 [14:36] <happyaron> archl: 学渣没学习，可能干了别的 [14:37] <happyaron> archl: 学弱把时间都学习了，还一事无成 [14:38] <archl> happyaron, 那些只是可能性。 [14:38] <archl> happyaron, 学渣大概什么都不干。 [14:39] <archl> happyaron, 好吧，我也说自己是学弱好了。 [14:39] <happyaron> archl: 学弱是我，你没机会抢 [14:39] * kandu 看了看 happyaron, 才知道“一事无成”是个很难达到的境界 [14:39] <^k^> 新 办公、图像、机械电子设计等 • gvim 可视化模式怎么插入东西 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469720 gvim 可视化模式怎么插入东西 插入注释呢？ zz: 873944287 — 2015-04-22 22:38 [14:39] <archl> kandu, 你才知道。 [14:40] <archl> kandu, 纵横五大洲 [14:40] * archl 学渣仰视学弱和学霸 [14:40] <archl> 学神没见过啊。 [14:41] <archl> kandu, 大牛你在做什么 [14:41] <kandu> archl: 在实现一个搜索引擎 [14:42] <archl> kandu, 能人有人爱 [14:42] * archl 无一长处 [14:42] <gfxmode> 洗洗睡了 [14:44] <archl> happyaron, 在图书馆碰到雅思8分的人，说了两句话，惭，判断对方不是中国人-怎么没口音的。 [14:45] <jusss> hoxily: 函数也是对象,那有函数类? [14:46] <jusss> hoxily: 函数类的属性都有啥 [14:46] <hoxily> jusss: 不清楚。你懂了，你来教我。 [14:48] <happyaron> archl: 很正常啊 [14:48] <archl> happyaron, 我第一次知道雅思8分的中国人 - 没在已知情况下接触过。 [14:49] <archl> happyaron, 我是乡下人啊 [14:51] <jusss> hoxily: 好吧,我感觉我今晚又了解了一点py [14:51] <archl> happyaron, 你现在在腐国？ [14:51] <jusss> 还是感觉oop的说法太怪异 [14:52] <jusss> 这个对象有什么属性 [14:52] <jusss> happyaron: 你有对象没?你对象啥属性? LOL [14:53] <archl> jusss, debian属性的 [14:53] <happyaron> jusss: 目前没有 [14:54] <archl> jusss, 渣，要向happyaron学习，他想有就会有的。 [14:54] <yeahnoob> 暂时没对象无所谓，只要不是多态就行 [14:54] <jusss> 你对象属于人这个类的子类女人(也可能是男人),属性就是你懂的 [14:55] <archl> jusss, 要继续在学弱的路上混下去呀 [14:55] <jusss> yeahnoob: 什么是多态 [14:56] <archl> happyaron jusss 。。。结果我现在用的笔记本电脑电池在联想的召回行列。 要求联想寄送一个新的。 [14:58] <jusss> hoxily: 函数不是对象,中文文章误导人 [14:59] <^k^> 新 新闻和通知 • 广州南沙自贸区挂牌，Ubuntu迎来大机遇大机会！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469721 广州南沙自贸区2015年4月21正式挂牌 广州迎来大机遇大机会！广州南沙自贸区与港澳地区紧密合作外，还是一块面向世界的窗口。未来超多国际企业公司机构来广州南沙办公司，ubunt [15:02] <jusss> hoxily: try ... except这个except该怎么翻译? [15:02] <hoxily> 你又不是写诗， [15:02] <hoxily> 翻译个毛 [15:02] <jusss> 翻译成除了? [15:03] <jusss> 除了 IOError异常? 怎么读都不顺,而且不理解 [15:03] <jusss> 改成expect 期待,还顺点 期待IOError异常 [15:05] <jusss> > Time.now [15:05] <^k^> jusss: 2015-04-22 15:05:18 +0000 => https://eval.in/317201 [15:06] <jusss> 都11点了,这么晚了,看个小电影睡觉去 [15:07] <jusss> 各位晚安 [15:14] <jzp113> 大家好啊 [15:14] <^k^> jzp113:点点点. 23:15 [16:04] <h4x0r-0day> hey join #h4x0r.0day [23:26] <hoxily> kandu: 早 [23:57] <kandu> hoxily: 早

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.152975

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-app-devel

[07:11] <dholbach> good morning [07:20] <Mirv> it seems it's not just me with vivid click chroot creation problem failing + umounting encrypted home dir bug #1436852 [07:20] <Mirv> which is kind of reliefing since it means I'm not the only person in the world who can (mis)configure his system in that way [07:33] <aquarius> popey, so you and I both can't build anything. What thing are we doing wrong which is presumably obvious to C++ people? :) [08:22] <popey> aquarius: well, i can build C++ stuff, but for some reason not today [08:33] <uglyandstupid> morning all [08:41] <uglyandstupid> What's Ubuntu's way of exposing native API to both HTML and QML UI code ? [08:44] <uglyandstupid> i.e when you have a service daemon offering Play/Pause API that someone would like to call from JS/QML code [08:50] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, good morning! have you seen my last comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~uriboni/webbrowser-app/bookmarks-in-suggestions/+merge/256459 ? [08:51] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: on it in a few minutes [08:51] <oSoMoN> thanks [08:53] <aquarius> popey, yeah, I can compile other things (I checked that). I don't understand how to get actual output from Ubuntu SDK about where the compile is looking for libraries, rather than just a one-line error! [08:54] <nik90> zsombi: ping [08:54] <zsombi> nik90: pong [08:54] <aquarius> uglyandstupid, to offer some other service to QML code, write a QML extension plugin which talks whatever the API is and exposes it to QML code. I don't know how new APIs are exposed to HTML5 apps; oSoMoN may know [08:55] <nik90> zsombi: How is it that your theming stuff along with the new header style landed in vivid? I thought no new API was allowed to land in vivid this late in the cycle? [08:55] <zsombi> nik90: perhaps a mistake, or you got the overlay PPA as well... [08:55] <nik90> zsombi: this is on the phone [08:56] <zsombi> nik90: then it was a mistake [08:56] <nik90> ah ok [08:56] <zsombi> nik90: and afaik new header style supposed to be 1.3 as well... or perhaps that is independent on the new header config APIs [08:57] <zsombi> nik90: yes, they are independent... [08:57] <nik90> zsombi: the reason I asked is that in Podbird and ureadit, we use a property called "theme" which we change...but turns out that is now used by the SDK and is declared as final..as a result Podbird and ureadit crash on the latest vivid :) [08:58] <zsombi> nik90: well, happens :) [08:58] <aquarius> haha! I just asked mhall119 on g+ why the version number of the components didn't change for that breaking change :) [08:58] <nik90> zsombi: either way the new header looks cool, lets hope that stays in vivid [08:59] <nik90> aquarius: yeah don't get me started on the frameworks issue :P [08:59] <zsombi> nik90: I don't think so as it was based on 1.3 changes :/ [08:59] <zsombi> nik90: :) [08:59] <zsombi> nik90: aquarius: we're working on that too [08:59] <aquarius> am a bit worried that breaking changes aren't changing the version number, which means that this change will break any app which uses "theme" as a variable, even if that app doesn't change. Stopping this happening is what version numbers are *for* :( [09:00] <zsombi> aquarius: so your apps import 1.2 UITK, right? [09:00] <zsombi> or earlier [09:00] <aquarius> actually, mostly earlier [09:00] <nik90> zsombi, aquarius: I think it will be reverted..since it breaks core apps *visuall* like clock, browser, reminders etc [09:00] <nik90> s/visuall/visually [09:00] <zsombi> I hope you don't import 0.1..! [09:01] <popey> (I hope apps were tested) [09:01] <zsombi> nik90: it will be reverted in a sense that 1.3 won't be there [09:01] <zsombi> I hope at least... [09:01] <nik90> same [09:02] <zsombi> nik90: aquarius: the theme property is exported for 1.3 versions only, but unfortunately Qt versioning is a mess :/ [09:02] <aquarius> riddling probably imports 0.1 because it's old. Caxton and Readability import 1.1. [09:02] <zsombi> nik90: aquarius: so if a component implementation imports 1.3, it exports that to 1.2 as well :/ [09:03] <zsombi> aquarius: then it would be about the time to get rid of the 0.1 import [09:03] <aquarius> zsombi, why? it works. [09:03] <nik90> well this is devel-proposed..so this kind of breakage is expected..which is why I was really surprised to see https://code.launchpad.net/~bzoltan/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/landing_2015-04-17/+merge/256647 land in vivid [09:04] <zsombi> nik90: aquarius: it does... but it's not healthy :) it only has 1.0 APIs [09:04] <aquarius> but I don't use anything outside those APIs (by definition). [09:04] <aquarius> No benefit to upgrading! [09:04] <zsombi> aquarius: yep, until we remove that [09:04] <zsombi> 16.04 will definitely do remove 0.1 support! [09:05] <zsombi> and will come with 2.0 [09:05] <aquarius> then I look forward to it throwing deprecation warnings for at least a year beforehand, to warn developers about it [09:05] <aquarius> because of course you wouldn't just do a release which broke perfectly working apps for no reason other than disc space. :) [09:05] <zsombi> aquarius: see the blog: all deprecated APIs removed in 2.0 [09:06] <aquarius> it's not a deprecated api! :) [09:06] <zsombi> aquarius: all apps importing 1.x will work, but 2.0 APIs won't have any deprecated 1.x APIs [09:06] <zsombi> aquarius: well, kinda yes :) 1.0 = 0.1 in this case :) [09:07] <zsombi> aquarius: but we encourage people to get rid of 0.1 imports [09:07] <zsombi> so in that sense is deprecated :) [09:07] <aquarius> that's not what I mean. I personally do not feel that a few words on a blog that app devs don't read is enough to tell people that a thing is deprecated. Why not make it throw warnings? So developers see it. [09:08] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: pushed the fix. is it going to be merged today ? i would like to submit the MR for the suggestions on top of that one [09:08] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: but i guess i can just do that with a prerequisite branch [09:08] <zsombi> aquarius: then tell me how to announce better the deprecation. 0.1 module deprecation cannot be shopwn in any runtime logs, and if blogs, emails are not read, how should we do? [09:08] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, it won’t be merged today, but yes, you can mark it as a prerequisite [09:09] <zsombi> aquarius: the plan has been announced in many channels, u-d-c blog, g+, IRC, so those who wanted to read they did [09:10] <nik90> zsombi: may be starting with 15.10 or something, any apps importing 0.1 will have a deprecation warning asking devs to upgrade to 1.x similar to component deprecation? [09:10] <zsombi> nik90: just said: no way to post warning on import versions :/ [09:10] <nik90> aquarius: although aquarius ^^ will not be noticeable by you until you run your app importing 0.1 in qtcreator and see these warnings [09:10] <nik90> zsombi: ah..missed that [09:11] <zsombi> nik90: unless we duplicate all components for 0.1 and post a warning there :( [09:12] <aquarius> zsombi, why can't it be announced? Just add "Component.onCompleted: console.warn('This is deprecated! upgrade, you lazy toad');" to the top of all components? [09:12] <uglyandstupid> aquarius: thanks [09:12] <zsombi> aquarius: and how do you know that it had been imported with 0.1? [09:12] <zsombi> aquarius: without duplicating all components for 0.1? [09:13] <aquarius> zsombi, hang on. I assumed that you have an Ubuntu/Components/0.1 folder somewhere with 0.1 components in it, and then an Ubuntu/Components/1.0 folder somewhere with 1.0 components in. Is that not the case? [09:13] <zsombi> aquarius: nik90: but having 2.0 without the deprecated 1.x APIs doesn't mean the 1.x will chease working [09:14] <zsombi> aquarius: well, my dear friend, get the sources and see, there's nothing like that :) [09:14] <zsombi> aquarius: it would be a HUGE maintenance burden [09:14] <zsombi> to have separate component and plugins for each minor update [09:14] <aquarius> it wouldn't be a maintenance burden at all, would it? Once you've released 1.2, you never ever touch that folder again; that's what a release is [09:15] <zsombi> aquarius: the versioning was always bad, it shoul dhave always been started with 1.0, not with 0.1 [09:15] <zsombi> aquarius: wouldn't it? [09:15] <aquarius> it doesn't get maintained. Bugs are fixed in newer versions. that's the point of version numbers :) [09:15] <zsombi> aquarius: have you ever thought that each minor changes would require component duplication? [09:15] <zsombi> and I guess yo always liked to get fixes on components, right? [09:16] <zsombi> so, fixing a bug would require us to "backport" to each component in each minor version, which is a maintenance burden [09:16] <aquarius> Yep. That's exactly what I believed happened. You release 1.2 and that's 1.2 for ever. If there are bugs in it, tough. (There is a period *before* 1.2's release when there is a "1.2" which keeps changing, of course.) [09:17] <aquarius> No, you don't backport the bug fixes; the bug stays there. Because it's been released. In the same way, if you fix a bug in a deb package, you have to increase the version number. Otherwise it can't be installed [09:18] <zsombi> aquarius: yes, you are right [09:18] <aquarius> that may not be the way we do things, but I'm pretty sure it's the way QML versioning *expects* that you're doing things -- that's why you have to specify a version number to import. If my app says "import Ubuntu.Components 1.2" and works on some machines and not others because they and I have different "versions" of "1.2"... that's what version numbers are meant to stop happening! [09:19] <aquarius> there aren't meant to be two different "versions" of 1.2 :-) [09:19] <zsombi> aquarius: however, that would also mean that your app importing 1.0 would have the same bug even if the device got upgraded to use 1.1 [09:20] <aquarius> yep [09:20] <aquarius> which is unfortunate [09:20] <aquarius> however, it is less bad than my working app importing 1.0 *breaking* when I haven't touched it :) [09:20] <zsombi> aquarius: so you'd need to upgrade your app then... [09:20] <zsombi> aquarius: well, I agree on that [09:21] <aquarius> yes. I have clearly decided that the bug in 1.0 didn't affect my app enough to avoid releasing it, or I really do hate that bug and so I've worked around it in my app somehow [09:21] <zsombi> aquarius: and QML versioning does not expect that either [09:21] <aquarius> when a new version of the UITK comes out, I need to upgrade my app to use it. That's what I expect, indeed [09:21] <aquarius> I do not expect a working version of the UITK to change under me and break my app :( [09:21] <aquarius> I didn't even realise that I was *supposed* to be expecting that :( [09:21] <zsombi> aquarius: see QtQuick plugin, they export the same components with revisions, and QML documents are the same for all versions [09:23] <zsombi> aquarius: QtQuick.Controls for instance they do this: same component exported to all minor versions [09:23] <zsombi> aquarius: and btw, there was an email - inm - long ago about asking app devs to turn to import 1.0 instead of 0.1 :) [09:23] <aquarius> so a QML programmer is *meant* to expect that a component they import might change and break their app? [09:24] <zsombi> aquarius: not change and break, but to get bugs fixed, yes [09:24] <zsombi> aquarius: if breaks, then we need to fix that [09:24] <aquarius> (also, I have just looked through and searched the blog and it doesn't mention deprecating this stuff, unless I'm missing something :)) [09:24] <zsombi> aquarius: but if it is because of some API we add, that is not on us, sorry [09:25] * nik90 checks [09:25] <zsombi> aquarius: the blog might not say that, but major version bumping means that the 2.0 plugin will not bring anything kicked out from 1.x, also it means that it will be a separate module [09:25] <aquarius> I'm totally fine with it being a separate module [09:25] <zsombi> aquarius: that is the way ytou do in QML extension plugins [09:25] <aquarius> that's a great idea [09:26] <nik90> aquarius: well it does say in 2.0: Clean up deprecated components..I presume that means being removed [09:26] <aquarius> what I expect is that when I ship a package which mentions in click frameworks that it uses ubuntu-sdk-14.10, that that will continue to work [09:26] <zsombi> aquarius: also, keeping separate module for each minor would be the best way, but QML plugin system doesn't let us do that :/ [09:26] <aquarius> nik90, ya, but it doesn't say what the deprecated things *are* :) [09:26] <zsombi> aquarius: so the only way to support backwards minor versions is to have them under the same module :( [09:27] <aquarius> zsombi, what? that's bloody stupid. [09:27] * aquarius looks annoyedly at Qt [09:27] <zsombi> aquarius: every release announces the deprecations... [09:27] <karni> Hi folks. I have a question. When I insert text into a text field, currently the way it works the text field won't know there's a text in it until after you press space (to "accept" the word into the text field). What's a suggested workaround for that? If we add voice note support in Telegram similar to Android, we end up not being able to send 'yo' ('yo<space>' is fine), because the microphone button is still visible, even though there's ... [09:27] <karni> ... text in the text field. the only workaround I can imagine is using keyboard Enter as "Enter to send" [09:28] <nik90> karni: Elleo is the best person to talk to about this ^^ [09:28] <zsombi> karni: I guess it's the input method which messes you there [09:28] <karni> zsombi: correct [09:28] <zsombi> karni: how do you insert the text? [09:28] <zsombi> karni: so call Qt.inputMethiod.comit() [09:29] <karni> zsombi: the user types the text. I know commit() works, but how would I know when to do that. [09:29] <zsombi> karni: maybe an idle timer? [09:29] <karni> I want to send "bro" to you zsombi, but unless I press space, I wouldn't be able to do that [09:29] <karni> zsombi: I guess that'd be last resort (yet another workaround :( ) [09:29] <zsombi> karni: there should be a send button, right? [09:30] <karni> Elleo: hey bro, asked a question couple lines above, would you have suggestions? ↑ [09:30] <zsombi> karni: when you press the Send button, you call commit before sending [09:30] <karni> zsombi: the send button is a microphone button, so you can press it and record a voice note that is immediately sent. when you strat typing, it *should* animate to a regular 'send' button [09:30] <karni> zsombi: ha. there's no 'send' button until that time, that's the problem :( [09:31] <zsombi> karni: well, there has to be something which triggers the sending [09:31] <karni> zsombi: once you type (*and* press space), microphone animates to a send button. [09:32] <zsombi> ok [09:32] <karni> on Android, you have things like onTextChanged whatever, so that's easy. here, we have input method preventing the text field from knowing about text. [09:32] <zsombi> why only at space pressing? doe sit animate to send when you type? or only at space? [09:32] <zsombi> aaaah [09:32] <karni> zsombi: because space commits last input method word [09:32] <zsombi> I see now! [09:32] <Elleo> karni: the text will be committed on a focus change if you press a send button or similar [09:32] <Elleo> karni: assuming you let the button take focus (otherwise call Qt.inputMethod.commit() when it's pressed) [09:32] <karni> which may be the first one [09:32] <Elleo> karni: ah, are you wanting to just detect that there's text being entered to change the button? [09:33] <Elleo> karni: I'm pretty sure there's a property you can monitor to know when text is being composed (but hasn't been committed yet) [09:33] <zsombi> there was sthing on teh text field... [09:33] <Elleo> iirc the messaging app uses it to activate their send button [09:33] <karni> Elleo: I need to detect *before* the send button is visible. actually, that _would_ show the send button [09:33] <zsombi> karni: inputMethodComposing() signal [09:33] <Elleo> karni: yeah, that's what I mean [09:33] <zsombi> or sthing lik ethat [09:33] <karni> whoooo \o/ [09:33] <karni> exactly what I needed, thanks guys! I'll have a look at the messaging app / that method ! [09:33] <zsombi> karni: sorry, that API si a bit huge... hard to find all you need, but it's there :) [09:34] <karni> :) I'm glad it's there! [09:34] <Elleo> yeah there's an inputMethodComposing property on text stuff that messaging-app is using [09:34] <karni> lovely, that's what I needed :) [09:34] <Elleo> karni: line 985 of Messages.qml [09:34] <karni> =D [09:35] <karni> \o/ [09:37] <Elleo> :) [09:56] <Saviq> Elleo, I think a UITK update broke Podbird: [09:57] <Saviq> file:///opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.mikeasoft.podbird/0.5/share/qml/podbird/podbird.qml:68 Cannot override FINAL property [09:57] <nik90> Saviq, Elleo: Already fixing it now :) [09:57] <nik90> Saviq: it is due to new UITK that landed in devel-proposed [09:57] <Saviq> nik90, yeah, I wonder if that's not a bug there though [09:58] <aquarius> popey, I filed https://github.com/rschroll/beru/issues/83 for rschroll anywya [09:58] <nik90> Saviq: we just used a property called "theme" that so happens that the new SDK also uses :)... [09:59] <Saviq> nik90, ah! [09:59] <Saviq> nik90, got it [09:59] <Elleo> Saviq, nik90: yeah, to me it seems like a UITK bug if it breaks existing apps by changing API without changing API version [09:59] <nik90> Saviq: we just had a long discussion and it might be a mistake that the new UITK introduces new properties in vivid...might get reverted [09:59] <nik90> Elleo: it might get reverted (hopefully)...but nonetheless my fix ensures it wont break when we switch to ubuntu.components 1.2 [10:00] <Elleo> nik90: won't hurt us to rename the property though [10:00] <nik90> Elleo: just had to rename theme to appTheme for now..exactly [10:00] <aquarius> it won't, but it basically means that we now don't know how to pick property names in case the SDK team decide in the future that they want that name instead :( [10:01] <nik90> aquarius: I suspect that with recent changes around the vivid-overlay PPA that was announced in the mailing list, the new UITK landed accidentally (my guess) [10:01] <Elleo> nik90: yeah [10:02] <aquarius> ya, but it landing accidentally isn't the point. Surely even if it hadn't been released today, it'll be released at some point, and break podbird and ureadit when it does release? [10:03] <nik90> aquarius: yeah it will..I know we had the long discussion just few minutes back :) [10:04] * aquarius grins [10:04] <aquarius> this does worry me rather [10:04] <nik90> aquarius: I guess this is a UOS topic about being backwards compatible [10:04] <Elleo> yeah, app devs need to be certain that their apps won't be broken by things out of their control [10:04] <aquarius> (also, as popey says, testing new sdk releases against existing apps would be good. I mean, you can't test everything, I understand that, but podbird is a featured app!) [10:04] <ogra_> guys, you are still talking about something unreleased ... [10:05] <aquarius> ogra_, ya, but when it *is* released, it'll have the same problem. [10:05] <aquarius> ogra_, because breaking changes are ported downlevel. [10:05] <ogra_> it isnt borken on the released phone ... and devs have enough time to fix their stuff before it hits the phone ... [10:05] <ogra_> what we need to do is being loiuder and make more announcements to them [10:05] <Elleo> ogra_: app devs shouldn't have to fix anything for an API that was already stable [10:05] <aquarius> ogra_, hang on, you're suggesting that app devs need to run pre-release versions of the OS? I don't! [10:06] <ogra_> Elleo, the 15.04 API is not stable yet ... [10:06] <nik90> ogra_: well in our defense, the main focus now for the phone is to switch to vivid and this breakage just landed on vivid. Also aquarius's point here is that newer versions of the SDK shouldn't break apps that depend on older API [10:06] <aquarius> the API shouldn't change. New versions can change, sure, but I'm not using the new versions. [10:06] <ogra_> come back after thu ... [10:06] <Elleo> ogra_: but the app doesn't use the 15.04 api it uses the 14.10 api [10:06] <Elleo> ogra_: the problem is that changes in 15.04 break the 14.10 api [10:06] <ogra_> uh oh ! [10:06] <nik90> ogra_: and also podbird uses 14.10 API [10:06] <ogra_> ok [10:07] <ogra_> ignore me then ... i didnt get that [10:07] <aquarius> ogra_, this is like SRUing a breaking change into libpng and not changing the version number, so all your apps are suddenly using the new version and so break. :) [10:07] <mivoligo> mhall119: ping [10:08] <ogra_> aquarius, indeed ... and the released APIs are supposed to never change [10:08] <aquarius> ogra_, no problem whatsoever with new versions of the SDK containing breaking changes; that's a good idea, and what version numbers are for. :) [10:08] <ogra_> right [10:08] <aquarius> ogra_, indeed they are not. However, that is not the case. See above conversation :-) [10:08] <ogra_> i thought you guys were only talking 15.04 [10:09] <mcphail> on a related subject, does there need to be a specific Ubuntu namespace/naming convention for QML components? [10:09] <aquarius> nope. You release an app today which adds a property called "ograColour" to your MainView, and in the next release of the SDK the SDK team decide to add a FINAL ograColour property... and your already-released, already-working app will break. This is why we're complaining :) [10:10] <mcphail> aquarius: that's really what I was asking. Should official Ubuntu components and properties be prefixed? [10:11] <aquarius> mcphail, actual Ubuntu UITK components are thus prefixed; they're in Ubuntu.Components [10:11] <mcphail> aquarius: yes, but if Ubuntu add a AutoRangePicker it will break my AutoRangePicker [10:12] <aquarius> mcphail, it shouldn't, because you aren't importing the new Ubuntu.Components version which includes it [10:13] <mcphail> aquarius: maybe, but it might, at least, break when I have to use a newer version. If all components were prefixed with Ub_, I wouldn't have that problem [10:13] <aquarius> that'd be really annoying, though [10:13] <nik90> mcphail: but that would make all the public API ugly [10:13] <nik90> imagine doing Ub_ListItem.Standard etc [10:14] <aquarius> it is equivalent to your AutoRangePicker being called McP_AutoRangePicker, and way less intrusive [10:14] <ogra_> mcphail, if you are scared you can just prefix your own function [10:14] <mcphail> yes, true [10:14] <nik90> mcphail, aquarius: Although, app devs could do this import Ubuntu.Components 1.1 as UT ... and then use UT.MainView{} etc.. etc ... but still one shouldn't have to do this [10:15] <aquarius> but it'd also be way annoying for me to have to namespace all the properties I create *just in case* the SDK team decide they want to own that name at some point in the future [10:15] <aquarius> which is why we are all complaining about breaking changes showing up in already-released versions :) [10:16] <mhall119> mivoligo: pong [10:16] <mivoligo> mhall119: grab it if you like it: https://sc-cdn.scaleengine.net/i/6018f5288b9679ee23f3c988b47f3b48.png [10:16] <mcphail> nik90: I actually like that idea. It would namespace the components nicely, although probably not the properties? [10:16] <mhall119> mivoligo: nice! [10:16] <mhall119> thanks [10:17] <mivoligo> mhall119: yw :) [10:17] <nik90> mcphail: well you will be referring to properties by their parent id, so that should be ok [10:17] <mhall119> mivoligo: what's your G+ profile URL? [10:18] <mivoligo> mhall119: no idea [10:18] <mivoligo> mhall119: name is Michał Prędotka ;) [10:19] <mhall119> ah, thanks, didn't know your IRC ;) [10:19] <mivoligo> :P [10:27] <ogra_> mhall119, why are you awake ? [10:27] * ogra_ is totally not used to these G+ posts at this time of day :P [10:29] <aquarius> mhall119 is in London, I think :) [10:29] <mhall119> yes I am [10:32] <ogra_> thats no excuse :P [10:33] <mhall119> and I have free unlimited coffee [10:33] <mhall119> for definitions of "unlimited" that require hotel staff to periodically refill the pitcher [10:36] <ogra_> now *that* is an excuse :) [10:38] <popey> also, the definition of "coffee" is a bit loose [10:40] * DanChapman thought pitchers were for cocktails not coffee [10:41] <ogra_> DanChapman, i think in the case of coffee it is "American Mug" [10:41] <ogra_> everything is bigger over there :) [10:41] <DanChapman> hah :-D [11:04] <DF__> Hey guys [11:05] <DF__> i just need some help with connecting to a Mysql database, can some here helpme out?? [11:06] <davmor2> popey: is it black and not tea? [11:07] <davmor2> popey: if so then it's coffee :D [11:08] <davmor2> popey: find the argentinian in the room and ask if they have any Mate :) End of problem [11:09] <popey> DF__: hiya [11:09] <popey> DF__: we don't ship the mysql libraries on the phone I think [11:09] <popey> DF__: you can make your phone read-write but that isn't a tested process (as I linked you to previously) [11:09] <popey> DF__: are you developing an app to go in the store? [11:10] <mzanetti> charles, hi there. is it expected that reminders notifications don't work at all any more in vivid? i.e. do I need to change anything in my code? [11:13] <DF__> popey yes [11:13] <DF__> popey: yes [11:13] <mhall119> zsombi: you should probably attend http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22406/themes-on-devices/ [11:14] <mhall119> since you're workign on the theme enhancements, right? [11:14] <DF__> it's for a school project here in portugal, but i want it to release on the ubuntu store so every one here in portugal who has a ubuntu phone, can use it [11:17] <mhall119> DF__: can you include the mysql binary (and libs) in your .click and use them that way? [11:17] <mhall119> DF__: I'm assuming you're connecting to a remote instance of mysqld, not a local one [11:17] <mhall119> if you are trying to use a local database, use the sqlite-backed LocalStorage QML component instead [11:18] <DF__> nope, i have my DB on my localhost [11:19] <DF__> i have 2 problems, wich are 1 connecting to my loclahost database and 2 install libqt5sql5-mysql on my phone [11:22] <zsombi> mhall119: yes [11:23] <zsombi> mhall119: could you pls file a bug with the "theme" property being visible in 1.2 UITK? pls... [11:25] <mhall119> zsombi: sure [11:28] <mhall119> zsombi: aquarius nik90 Elleo https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1447113 [11:37] <aquarius> mhall119, cool. I hope this is correctly seen as an example of the wider problem (that is: just fixing this one case isn't really a fix :)) [11:37] <mhall119> aquarius: that is my assumption, yes [11:37] <mhall119> zsombi: [11:37] <mhall119> ? [11:38] <zsombi> what do you mean? [11:41] <zsombi> mhall119: aquarius: if you mean that we won't only fix that particular property, but the whole toolkit, then yes, this will fix all 1.2 UITK stuff [11:42] <aquarius> zsombi, yeah, that's what I meant -- this isn't fixed by, say, renaming the SDK "theme" property to "uitheme". It's a general problem that my apps will break if at any future point the SDK team invent a final property which I'd already used as a name :) [11:43] <zsombi> aquarius: we never thought about renaming it to uitheme or anything else, we meant to fix it for 1.2 not getting any 1.3 properties [11:43] <aquarius> zsombi, ah, I've just seen that you assigned the bug to yourself, cool. I was more worried that it might get picked up by someone who wasn't part of the above conversation :) [11:43] <zsombi> aquarius: well, sorry, we cannot check what properties do apps declare when getting new APIs in... [11:43] <zsombi> :) [11:44] <aquarius> zsombi, I know you can't check -- and if I don't use the new APIs, there should be no conflict, is my point ;) [11:44] <zsombi> aquarius: the thing with the theme not being FINAL is that if you override, it will break our theming [11:44] <zsombi> yes [11:44] <aquarius> totally agree that your properties should be final. [11:45] <zsombi> aquarius: I'm already working on this.... it will get some time to get all the things separated properly [11:45] <aquarius> that way, when I start using a version of the UITK with your property in, I can't override it. That's correct :) [11:45] <aquarius> zsombi, cool :) [12:35] <Elleo> nik90: merged your vivid fix; the new UITK header makes podbird look even better :) [12:36] <nik90> Elleo: :) [12:37] <nik90> Elleo: btw once greek language is 100% done, I think we can release. [12:37] <nik90> Elleo: everyone whom I contacted have finished translating their language to 100% [12:38] <Elleo> nik90: okay, cool [13:05] <popey> hmm [13:05] <popey> podbird 0.5 crashes on arale [13:06] <Elleo> popey: latest vivid image? [13:06] <popey> yes [13:06] <nik90> popey: yes podbird crashes on devel-proposed..we have a fix in trunk for it [13:06] <popey> ok [13:06] <popey> \o/ [13:06] <popey> knew you'd be on it [13:06] <nik90> popey: that's what we were discussing with aquarius and sdk devs and complaining loudly about it ;) [13:07] <popey> hah [13:07] <popey> i do like the new icon :) [13:07] <nik90> yeah kevin did a really good job there with the visuals [13:07] <Elleo> yeah [13:11] <aquarius> I wonder if we'll have partisan camps based on who did the design. snwh vs Kevin: choose a side :-) [13:12] <Elleo> heh [15:03] <om26er> boiko, Hi! [15:05] <davmor2> aquarius: designer Rap Battle, it's the only way to decide :D [16:07] <om26er> mzanetti, Hello! [16:08] <om26er> mzanetti, I tried to look into the reminders failure but didn't make much progress, partly because it looks like the issue is in the client code which I don't really understand. [16:08] <om26er> re: bug 1444690 [16:08] <om26er> who is the best person I should talk to ? [16:31] <bzoltan_> aquarius: nik90: the sdk was reverted, so the problem should be gone [16:32] <nik90> bzoltan_: is the new header style still landing in vivid though? [16:42] <nik90> jhodapp: hey your playlist silo, does it have everything for apps to get playlist support? Or is some other additional work to be done? [16:54] <jhodapp> nik90, it's just the backend support, still need to add the Qt/QML layer so client apps can take advantage of it [16:55] <nik90> jhodapp: ah ok..put out a call when you want some testing done for it. [16:55] <jhodapp> nik90, definitely will do so, I'm going to want a lot of testing [16:56] <jhodapp> nik90, will most likely start on the next bit of work on this next week [16:56] <jhodapp> nik90, maybe something to try by the end of next week at the earliest [17:06] <nik90> jhodapp: cool [17:46] <mzanetti> om26er, what's the client code? [17:46] <mzanetti> om26er, my code or python-libthrift etc? [17:46] <om26er> mzanetti, yours [17:47] <mzanetti> mhm [17:47] <om26er> mzanetti, the error probably comes from ttypes.py, doesn't it ? [17:48] * mzanetti reads the bug again [17:49] <mzanetti> om26er, but wait... [17:50] <mzanetti> om26er, that "raise errors.EDAMNotFoundException()" comes from the python stuff, doesn't it? [17:51] <om26er> mzanetti, yes, the code comment there mentions that it will raise an exception if the note is not found on the server [17:51] <om26er> mzanetti, initially we had been thinking this might be an issue in the CI lab wifi setup blocking staging server but later we were able to reproduce the issue locally as well. [17:52] <om26er> mzanetti, do you know who wrote that test? the test seems to *not* really test anything (no asserts) [17:52] <mzanetti> om26er, probably Carla [18:36] <ant400468> hi all [18:37] <ant400468> there is someone? [18:38] <ant400468> i'm an holder of ubuntu phone [18:38] <popey> hi [18:38] <ant400468> and when try to run the first my html 5 app got an exception [18:39] <ant400468_> hi all again [18:39] <ant400468_> when i try to run the first my html 5 app got this excption [18:40] <ant400468_> Errore irreversibile: /tmp/myhtml5app.ant400468_0.1_all.click failed to install. WARNING:root:Signature check failed, but installing anyway as requested Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/click", line 86, in <module> sys.exit(main()) File "/usr/bin/click", line 82, in main return mod.run(args) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/click/commands/install.py", line 62, in run package_path, us [18:40] <ant400468_> every one can help me? [18:41] <ant400468_> devices is connected and also emulator i think is okay [18:41] <ant400468_> there is someone please? [18:43] <ant400468_> hi all there is someone? [18:51] <ant400468_> hi guys anyone can help to run run my first html 5 app for ubuntu phone? please? [20:08] <nik90> rpadovani: ping [20:09] <rpadovani> nik90, pong [20:09] <nik90> rpadovani: hey, how do you build and run ubuntu-calculator-app in qtc? [20:10] <nik90> rpadovani: for me it complains "could not find @APP_HARDCODE@ in the manifest file" [20:11] <rpadovani> nik90, well, it's a pure qml app, you can run it from terminal, qmlscene app/ubuntu-calculator-app,qml. The error sounds a bit strange, I build a package a couple of weeks ago and used to work [20:12] <nik90> rpadovani: I am trying this on 14.04, so cant run it on my desktop..I guess I can try building the click via the terminal...just strange though [20:13] <rpadovani> nik90, oh, just tried on qtc on vivid, works fine. I don't have time to investigate right now, but I'll take a look, thanks [20:13] <nik90> rpadovani: np [20:15] <aquarius> popey, who does Shorts? Is that one of the core apps? If so, registering it at https://www.subtome.com/ might be cool [20:28] <ilesteban> Hi all. I'm a qml/c++ newby, so be nice ;). I'm building my first ubuntu phone app, and I wanted to use TTS (text-to-speach). I found this library that does exactly what I need: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~themuso/qml-speechd [20:29] <ilesteban> The problem is that I don't know how to "include" this library as part of the app I'm building. [20:29] <ilesteban> I was able to build the project locally, and install it. If I run the app I'm building in my desktop, everything works fine. After all, the .so is installed in my local. [20:31] <ilesteban> But when I run the app inside an emulator, I got an (obvious) error saying that "module "Speechd" is not installed" [20:31] <ilesteban> My question is: what should I do in these cases? Should I include the sources from qml-speechd in my project?? Or is there a better way to do this? [20:39] <nik90> ilesteban: it depends on your project build type (Cmake or Qmake) where you need to specify where to install your "Speechd" module [20:40] <nik90> ilesteban: and ofc build it for the armhf arch (phone) and i386 (emulator) [20:44] <ant400468_> hi guys anyone can help to run run my first html 5 app for ubuntu phone? please? [20:47] <ant400468_> hi guys anyone can help to run my first html 5 app for ubuntu phone? please? [20:54] <ilesteban> nik90: But building the .so for the different architectures is something that has to be done outside my project right? [20:54] <ilesteban> nik90: (I think Java has spoiled me... :P) [20:56] <nik90> ilesteban: well if your cmake or qmake is set up properly, it will automatically build your click package for the architecture you specify [20:56] <nik90> as a whole package [20:57] <nik90> ant400468_: it looks like people familiar with html5 aren't around.. [20:57] <ilesteban> nik90: but the sources for speechd don't need to be in my same project, right? [20:57] <nik90> ilesteban: it should [20:57] <nik90> ilesteban: considering that speechd is not installed on the phone by default [20:57] <ilesteban> hmm... interestig. [20:58] <nik90> ilesteban: curious but why would it be outside your project? [20:58] <nik90> ilesteban: it seems like a library that only your app seem to be using..so why would it already be shipped on the phone? [21:00] <ilesteban> nik90: no reason :). Coming from Java, whenever I want to use a third-party lib in my project, the only thing I need is its .jar file present in my project (classpath). I thought that this was also true for qmake/cmake. [21:00] <ilesteban> replace .jar to .so (and specific architecture) [21:00] <nik90> ilesteban: well you could do it like that as well if you want [21:00] <nik90> ilesteban: but you still need someone to give you that .so file for all necessary archs [21:01] <nik90> ilesteban: while it would be easier considering you have access to the source to adjust your cmake/qmake file to build it for you on the fly when creating a click package [21:01] <ilesteban_> correct [21:02] <ilesteban_> nik90: but if you are saying that including the sources of the lib in my project is a good approach, I'm fine with that. [21:02] <ilesteban_> It seems to be the easiest way [21:03] <ilesteban_> nik90: thanks! [21:03] <nik90> ilesteban_: yw [23:46] <Elleo> nik90: http://i.imgur.com/xBjTh2n.png <-- we've just hit 1000 users :) [23:49] <liuxg> how to hide the title bar in a Page in my QML app so that my app can take more space of the screen [23:49] <nik90> Elleo: WOW! [23:50] <nik90> liuxg: you can set the page title to an empty string to hide it [23:51] <liuxg> nik90, oh, really? let me try it. thanks [23:51] <nik90> liuxg: in Ubuntu.Components 1.3 new properties head.visible and head.locked will be made available to do it in a more official way [23:51] <nik90> liuxg: the solution now is more a hack [23:53] <liuxg> nik90, thanks. it really works. thanks for the tip :) I am now on 14.10, so Ubuntu.Components 1.3 is not available to me :) [23:53] <nik90> Elleo: I was just reading more about WorkerScript to improve the performance of Podbird while refreshing the listviews where the UI freezes for a few seconds [23:54] <Elleo> nik90: yeah, I looked into that a while back and ran into some problems, can't remember what exactly [23:54] <nik90> liuxg: well Ubuntu.Components 1.3 is not available to anyone yet...I believe Ubuntu.Components 1.2 will be available when the phone switches to vivid [23:54] <Elleo> nik90: but decided that since it might be necessary to rewrite the networking/parsing stuff in C++ for compatibility with some servers anyway that it'd probably make more sense to just do some threading on that side [23:55] <Elleo> nik90: iirc you can't access any of the localstorage stuff from a worker script, so you basically have to do the network operation in the worker, then pass all the xml back to the main thread for parsing [23:55] <nik90> Elleo: true, but eventually that c++ plugin will write it into the sqlite database and in the qml side we will be reading the database and transferring it into a listmodel..I think that last part is also intensive [23:56] <liuxg> nik90, yeah, it is true. thanks [23:56] <Elleo> nik90: we can do the listmodel creation in a C++ thread though [23:56] <nik90> Elleo: oh yeah that would help considerably [23:57] <Elleo> nik90: whereas I don't think we can create the listmodel from the database directly in a workerscript due to that disallowing localstorage [23:57] <nik90> Elleo: right now I had 15 podcasts subscribed to and on adding another one it froze the gui for like 2-3 seconds which doesnt look good [23:57] <Elleo> nik90: yeah [23:57] <nik90> I found an example online where they show the listmodel itself being populated inside the workerscript, but nothing yet with the localstorage [23:58] <nik90> so I guess that can be a blocker [23:58] <Elleo> nik90: you can't do any .imports from workerscripts [23:58] <Elleo> nik90: they're very limited on purpose [23:58] <Elleo> nik90: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtquick-workerscript.html#restrictions [23:59] <nik90> ah yes [23:59] <Elleo> nik90: there's also some nasty bugs in qml's xmlhttprequest implementation that it'd be good to avoid via the C++ implementation

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.177503

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-devel

[00:06] <boax> the bug is: glamor shouldn't be passing in a NULL destination to fbCopy. [00:06] <boax> big thanks to RAOF [00:09] <jtaylor> doko: why did you patch julia to build on all arches? [01:14] <Bluefoxicy> Hmm. Well good. [01:14] <Bluefoxicy> My video card works in Ubuntu 15.04, even though it's still terminally broken in 14.10 [01:51] <psusi> cyphermox, hey there.. just wanted to make sure you understood my comments on bug #1418706, re the changes you made to partman-auto only masking the problem instead of addressing the root cause... just here if you wanted to discuss it [02:58] <cyphermox> psusi: I'm not denying there may be other issues with installing for EFI right now, but the fix I uploaded is technically correct -- there was a genuine bug in the way partman-auto created the ESP which confused partman-efi. if you manually partition and create no ESP, then that's still bad for an efi setup and ubiquity should prompt (but that prompt should work properly... if it does not, then that's another matter) [03:14] <psusi> cyphermox, that's really only a tangentally related issue... partman-auto set the partition to ext2 in partman's view of what partitions to create... but that really doesn't matter... the point is that the init.d script is supposed to be run before the visual.d script from partman-auto ever tries to create any partitions [03:14] <psusi> it's supposed to be looking at what partitions are on the disk *before* you tried to install ubuntu... i.e. do you already have a windows install bootign in bios mode [03:15] <psusi> the partitions that ubuntu is about to create isn't what it is supposed to see, even if they do not quite accurately reflect the eventual intended use ( fat32 / esp ) [03:16] <cyphermox> psusi: I thought I had explained this on the bug; the scripts *are* being run in the correct order, but they are also being run more than once, which is a difference from d-i installs, that's why you'd see a message afterwards. that the message is appearing for the "intended" partition set isn't necessarily wrong in this case since it can alerts the user that they are about to do something wrong. [03:17] <cyphermox> psusi: btw, what timezone are you in? I really should start getting to bed :P [03:17] <psusi> that's the job of the check.d scripts, the init.d scripts are intended to be run only *before* any other scripts ( visual.d ) start making changes in memory [03:18] <psusi> EST, us [03:19] <psusi> in other words, the check.d scripts warn you that you failed to create an esp and one is needed since you appear to be booting in efi mode... the init.d script is trying to see what OSes you already have installed before any changes are made [03:19] <cyphermox> partman-efi's check.d currently doesn't try to warn you about a missing EFI partition [03:20] <psusi> I'm pretty sure they do... but they aren't currently working under ubiquity [03:20] <cyphermox> regardless, could you file a bug about the very specific issue you're seeing? keeping in mind that currently, partman itself runs more than once, so of course you'll get one run of init.d, visual.d, check.d, and then again with init.d, visual.d, check.d as it goes to handle the partition requests [03:21] <psusi> that is to say, that if under d-i, you do manual partitioning, and don't create an esp, the check.d script says hey, you should have done that, go back? [03:21] <cyphermox> I don't know, I looked before and I don't recall seeing it [03:22] <psusi> when I contacted the debian guys about this, they seemed to be clear thta the scripts are to run in the order of init.d -> visual.d -> check.d... if they are being run again that is an error [03:22] <cyphermox> but that said, it was broken anyway, because init.d would write out /var/lib/partman/ignore_efi and thus break later scripts [03:22] <cyphermox> and update.d/efi_sync_flags wouldn't fix things either. [03:22] <cyphermox> so all in all, it feels like steps in the right direction [03:22] <psusi> right... because init.d is supposed to run first, and only if you already have windows that is apparently booting in bios mode, it disables all of the later efi stuff so you don't get the warning about lacking an esp [03:24] <psusi> ( since the presumption is that if windows is already installed in bios mode, this machine must be capable of bios boot, even though yuo booted the installer in efi mode ) [03:25] <cyphermox> that still works [03:25] <cyphermox> you can always hit "go back", and you won't be in UEFI mode. [03:25] <psusi> only if you hit it within 2-3 seconds... later than that and the dialog box hangs [03:26] <cyphermox> AFAIK, besides running partman/parted_server twice, ubiquity currently does more or less the right thing [03:26] <cyphermox> fair enough. that's fixable [03:26] <psusi> from what the debian guys told me, "the right thing" is to run init.d, then visual.d, then check.d... and NOT go back and run init.d again [03:27] <cyphermox> I know it would be best, but things are the way they are [03:27] <psusi> since they are all written with the assumption that they are run first [03:27] <cyphermox> and things do currently mostly work [03:27] <cyphermox> psusi: in other words, if you already have ideas on how to improve the situation and time to work on it, feel free to start on ubiquity's ubi-partman.py [03:28] <cyphermox> I don't expect I'll be able to get to anything like that until next week, for sure ;) [03:29] <psusi> well, I guess what I'm trying to say is that ubiquity running the scripts a second time is fundamentally broken but I currently lack the time and python/ubiquity knowlege to fix it ;) [03:29] <cyphermox> as far as Debian things go, the patches I made to partman-auto still need to make it, because they *do* confuse partman-efi to some degree; bits go missing [03:29] <cyphermox> psusi: what I'm saying is it might be broken or suboptimal, but it mostly works, minus some warts like that particular prompt [03:30] <psusi> I suppose that does at least avoid the message in the most common case [03:30] <cyphermox> making us wait for the prompting to be done / partitioning to be mostly complete can be fixed fairly easily I think [03:30] <psusi> but the other really large wart involved here is the fact that when you do get the message, ubiquity seems to hang the window and continue without waiting for the response [03:30] <cyphermox> yes [03:30] <cyphermox> ^^ [03:31] <cyphermox> that's because ubiquity currently happily runs through questioning the user for what it needs and doing other work in the background [03:32] <psusi> another long standing and likely related bug is that the check.d scripts are supposed to stop you and tell you that you forgot to create a bios_grub partition when you are in a bios booting but gpt partitioned machine and they don't... so later grub install fails and we get crash reports [03:32] <cyphermox> so; provided the check scripts run properly, I'm guessing you wouldn't see the dialog anymore either, because it's failure cases would prevent the later run of init.d scripts to trigger thinking things are booted in EFI without an ESP [03:32] <cyphermox> psusi: wouldn't that explode on d-i too currently? [03:33] <cyphermox> there's only one check.d script for partman-efi, it's doing the too_small_efi and no_efi tests only [03:35] <psusi> from what I can tell, the architecture of partman is for init.d to run first, then visual.d, possibly several times, then check.d, possilbly going back to visual.d, then finally commit.d exactly once [03:35] <cyphermox> psusi: if you file the bugs for these issues, I'll eventually get to them [03:35] * cyphermox shrugs [03:36] <psusi> ok... so I should file a separate bug? and you consider that one closed? I wasn't sure since it didn't get closed because you didn't reassign it to partman-auto before uploading that [03:37] <cyphermox> psusi: I think we can consider that one closed, as the most common cases don't cause the install to be unusable [03:37] <cyphermox> let me fix that [03:43] <cyphermox> and it's late, so I'll get some sleep before it's tomorrow. :) [05:18] <infinity> slangasek: Did you get around to having opinions about the PAM/FD_SETSIZE thing? [07:11] <dholbach> good morning [07:17] <pitti> rbasak: patch looks good to me; you could perhaps clarify the description that PAM reads the defaults from pid 1 (which is different between upstart and systemd) [08:05] <rbasak> pitti: sure - I take it you mean the dep3 description? [08:09] <infinity> rbasak: +1 on the patch from me too, if it's tested to DTRT. [08:09] <infinity> rbasak: Guessing slangasek is too timezone skewed from us for a timely review, so I'm fine with us getting it in and then letting him complain later. [08:10] <rbasak> infinity: thanks. I don't mind waiting, but maybe you actually want it uploaded sooner? [08:11] <infinity> rbasak: Well, we can wait a bit, but we'd like to be spinning final ISOs by Uk evening. [08:11] <rbasak> OK [08:34] <Odd_Bloke> rbasak: infinity: If this is something that we're going to want in the cloud images (which, from my limited understanding of the issue, it is), then UK evening will be pushing getting the images sync'd out everywhere. [08:34] <rbasak> Odd_Bloke, infinity: OK I'll fix up and upload now. [08:35] <infinity> rbasak: Ta. [08:35] <Odd_Bloke> rbasak: Much appreciated. [08:35] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: Well, to be fair, we don't imply that the archive will be closed and "released" until Thursday, so one would hope you're prepared to respin cloud images for an emergency. [08:36] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: But we'll aim for not having any emergencies. :P [08:37] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: We're prepared, but can't do anything about the 12 hour+ replication time in Azure. :p [08:38] <Odd_Bloke> So, yeah, let's aim to find problems _after_ release; it's much easier for me that way. ;) [08:40] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: Heh. For me too. :P [09:54] <pitti> barry: do you still target bug 1377184 for 15.04? [09:54] <pitti> barry: if so, now is the time :) [10:08] <infinity> @pilot in [10:24] <seb128> Mirv, hey, I think your bug about click env failing to build a schroot with ecryptfs is bug #1427264 [10:24] <seb128> tyhicks and hallyn_ were discussing it but I don't think anyone managed to get slots to work on it before vivid :-/ [10:25] <seb128> we should probably recommend app devs to not use ecryptfs [10:33] <tjaalton> does pandaboard run armhf? [10:36] <Mirv> seb128: ok, good to know that there's an earlier bug about it! [10:36] <ogra_> tjaalton, sure ... [10:37] <tjaalton> ogra_: ok good, still need to find the power adapter.. [10:37] <ogra_> not sure if there are still recent images though [10:37] <ogra_> (thats a question for infinity ) [10:42] <infinity> ogra_: There are, though I'm not sure if anyone tests them. My panda is probably still running precise. [10:42] <ogra_> mine hasnt been powered since over a year [10:43] * ogra_ has a sabrelite with proper SATA disk for builds ... way faster ... [10:44] <tjaalton> I'd need trusty to test lts backports [10:44] <tjaalton> perhaps makes more sense to just get Rpi2 [10:46] <tjaalton> meh, out of stock until 15th of may [11:01] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I see you are piloting. We discussed this merge last week - https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/indicators-gtk2/indicator-application-gtk2/+merge/244116 [11:01] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Any chance that can be merged and uploaded? [11:02] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Erk, I thought we got that in. I'm not amzingly comfy with doing it right before what I hope will be the final images. [11:03] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Because if it *does* break another gtk2 flavour in a way you didn't expect, we'll not notice in time, or we'll delay the release for that flavour. [11:03] <flexiondotorg> infinity, You agreed to do it but I guess you got busy. [11:03] <flexiondotorg> infinity, So defer this to 15.10? [11:04] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Yeah. I think it's better to do it post-release at this point (so, in 15.10, and as an SRU to 15.04), so it can have more testing. [11:04] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I'm happy to just do this for 15.10. [11:04] <flexiondotorg> No SRU required. [11:04] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Or that, sure. [11:26] <sveinse> I'm trying to debootrsap vivid from utopic (debootstrap --variant=minbase vivid), but it fails with "Invalid release signature (key id 40976EAF437D05B5)". Any ideas? debootstrapping jessie worked fine [11:44] <rbasak> sveinse: are you running Ubuntu or Debian? [11:45] <rbasak> /usr/share/keyrings/ has ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg which contains that key. I'm not sure what debootstrap uses though. [11:46] <rbasak> sveinse: also you might want to check the release signature by hand to check that you don't have some kind of mirror sync issue. [11:56] <sveinse> rbasak: I'm running ubuntu (utopic) [11:59] <rbasak> sveinse: perhaps you've hit bug 972077 then? The workaround is to retry a bit later. [12:27] <pitti> Riddell: bug 1413521 seems relevant for the final release; are you still working on this? [12:30] <Riddell> pitti: I'm pretty resigned to oem not working properly in this release :( [12:31] <Riddell> I tried looking into it last week but was blocked on something not installing oem-config at all [12:31] <Riddell> now there's tidying up to do such as https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447144 [12:36] <Riddell> pitti: hang on you're removing milestones, that's the way I get my list of important bugs for kubuntu [12:36] <pitti> Riddell: I moved them to vivid-updates for things that can be fixed in SRUs and which are unrealistic to get fixed by "now" [12:36] <Riddell> yeah vivid-updates is good [12:37] <pitti> Riddell: but the above would be a case where vivid-updates doesn't make sense [12:38] <Riddell> pitti: do we have a milestone for whimsy wallnut yet? [12:38] <pitti> Riddell: I tried the current kubuntu daily and at least live session and installer seem to work; we are buildling new images now, I'll do a kubuntu test install to check the sddm bugs [12:38] <pitti> Riddell: yes, I created 15.05 to 15.10 last week [12:40] <Riddell> pitti: remind me again what the monthly milestones are for, I've never used them, are they just for teams that like to target fixes on a monthly basis? [12:40] <pitti> Riddell: pretty much, yes [12:41] <pitti> Riddell: for vivid series targetted bugs we also have a vivid-updates milestone [12:57] <voldyman> robert_ancell: ping [13:12] <robert_ancell> voldyman, hello [13:14] <voldyman> robert_ancell: thanks for all the help, did you get my last email? [13:14] * voldyman has been bothering robert too much [13:15] <voldyman> (greeter) [13:15] <robert_ancell> right :) [13:15] <robert_ancell> I was wondering who you were for a second [13:15] * voldyman == stalker [13:16] <robert_ancell> voldyman, yeah, so you need to work out why the closure is not being called because all sorts of X resources will get left behind otherwise [13:16] <robert_ancell> The hoops you have to jump through to set an image on the root window and quit the greeter are a total pain in the ass [13:16] * robert_ancell loves X [13:16] <voldyman> i tried using Posix to handle the term signal still didn't work [13:17] <robert_ancell> voldyman, you need to use GLib or you'll get all sorts of race conditions [13:17] * robert_ancell loves Unix [13:17] <voldyman> the weird thing is, lightdm's log shows that after sending the term signal greeter closed communication channel [13:17] <voldyman> but greeter's logs don't indicate any signal was received [13:17] <robert_ancell> voldyman, the channel is a socket so the process terminating will close it automatically [13:17] <robert_ancell> I mean a pipe [13:18] <voldyman> that is what is weird, no signal was received, the debug message after Gtk.main () wasn't logged hence the process wasn't killed [13:19] <robert_ancell> voldyman, if the debug message wasn't there doesn't that imply the signal was received and it just didn't get handled? [13:20] <voldyman> the debug call is in the code but is not logged hence i believe that, that part of the program wasn't reached or that lightdm closed the log file after sending sigterm [13:23] <barry> pitti: re: si3.0 we can't land it until the server changes land [13:23] <doko> ogasawara, apw: please be aware of https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2015-04/msg00278.html [13:23] <barry> pitti: so no, not 15.04 :/ [13:24] <pitti> barry: ok, so moving milestone to 15.05 for now [13:25] <pitti> barry: ah, you already moved to "later" (does anyone actually use that?) [13:25] <robert_ancell> voldyman, if you handle SIGTERM and then do nothing in the handler is LightDM unable to kill the greeter? [13:25] <barry> pitti: dunno! 15.05 would be okay too [13:25] <robert_ancell> voldyman, that would confirm the handler is working [13:25] <voldyman> ah, good idea [13:40] <voldyman> robert_ancell: no effect, there was no signal handler before i added it after your email [13:57] <doko> bdmurray, barry: what will we do with the requests issue? [13:57] <voldyman> robert_ancell: i am totally lost, any more ideas? or any direction you would point me to? [13:59] <barry> doko, bdmurray i'm not sure what to do. i can't reproduce it [14:00] <robert_ancell> voldyman, no idea. You need to confirm that you can handle SIGTERM and you are cleaning up on exit. Perhaps you need an explicit destruct method for the singleton. [14:03] <voldyman> hmm, i'll check that. [14:04] <voldyman> robert_ancell: Thanks a ton for all the help, i have bugged you a lot [14:04] <robert_ancell> voldyman, np [14:04] <robert_ancell> voldyman, I hope you get it working soon! It took us ages to get it to work for unity-greeter [14:05] <voldyman> robert_ancell: i'll surely shoot you a an email when and if i am able to fix it [14:32] <pitti> Riddell: I just did a kubuntu install with today's image, no problems with shutdown or sddm \o/ [14:32] <Riddell> pitti: awooga, thanks :) [14:33] <Riddell> pitti: did you get bug 1436952 ? [14:33] <pitti> Riddell: do you still want to keep bug 1362599 open, or close it? [14:33] <pitti> Riddell: no, all went well [14:33] <pitti> Riddell: I only tested in QEMU so far, though; we can give it another shot on real hw [14:34] <Riddell> pitti: bug 1362599 can be closed [14:34] <Riddell> pitti: well I have several testers already, I expect you have other stuff needed tested :) [14:34] <pitti> Riddell: ok, so much the better [14:38] <pitti> Riddell: so we still have three 15.04 bugs about kubuntu/oem; so you're saying we don't care for this cycle? (most OEMs would only install LTSes anyway these days, I figure?) [14:41] <bdmurray> doko: we can manually override a particular crash [14:43] <Riddell> pitti: right, I'll just have to release note it [14:44] <voldyman> robert_ancell: i think i might have found the problem [14:45] <voldyman> i am using get_screen instead of Gdk.Screen.get_default and hence drawing on the windows root window not the X's root window [14:45] <voldyman> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~voldyman/pantheon-greeter/retain-back/view/head:/src/PantheonGreeter.vala#L301 [14:45] <voldyman> changed it but can't confirm the patch on Gnome-Boxes, waiting for another tester to confirm if this works [14:47] <robert_ancell> voldyman, get_screen should return the same as Gdk.Screen.get_default as you tend to only have one "screen" on an X server. [14:47] <voldyman> :/ [14:48] <voldyman> then another theory that i have is that, unity greeter has a main class that creates the window, pantheon greeter does everything from the window. that might be the reason why the window won't go away [15:12] <slangasek> infinity, rbasak: I agree that capping the soft limit is correct behavior, GTM [15:12] <slangasek> +L [15:13] <infinity> slangasek: Excellent, cause that's what we did. ;) [15:21] <voldyman> robert_ancell: i removed the RetainPermanent part and it worked enough for us, also found the reason for sig term, some function somewhere was calling Posix.exit :) [15:41] <rbasak> slangasek: great. Thanks! [15:52] <pitti> rbasak, slangasek: on a fresh server install my ulimit -n is 1024 again, FTR [15:52] <rbasak> \o/ thanks [15:55] <roaksoax-afk> pitti: https://pastebin.canonical.com/129999/ [15:55] <roaksoax-afk> pitti: any ideas? [15:57] <pitti> roaksoax: oops, no [15:57] <pitti> roaksoax: which arch/environment is that? [15:58] <roaksoax> pitti: amd64 VM [15:58] <roaksoax> pitti: apparently when installing isc-dhcpd-server works just fine, but when isntalling maas-dhcpd (from ppa:maas-maintainers/experimental) just fails [16:01] <pitti> roaksoax: I tried with vivid's maas, and that fails with http://paste.ubuntu.com/10866717/ ; I'm trying the PPA now [16:05] <pitti> roaksoax: can reproduce [16:13] <roaksoax> pitti: any ideas as to why? [16:13] <roaksoax> pitti: i'm fixing vivid maas now [16:14] <pitti> roaksoax: no, haven't seen that yet [16:14] <pitti> roaksoax: I uploaded the apport crash report, bug 1447243 now [16:14] <roaksoax> pitti: thanks! [16:14] <roaksoax> pitti: yeah, it completely crashes vivid in my case. I reboot after that failure and the machine never finishes coming up [16:18] <pitti> roaksoax: yeah, it seems to mess up qemu, not even system_reset works [16:18] <pitti> roaksoax: so, at first sight I'd say this assertion sounds like a quoting issue in one of the units [16:18] <pitti> roaksoax: so, of course we'll fix systemd to not spill its guts that way, but I guess we also have a typo in some unit [16:21] <roaksoax> pitti: ok, i'll investigate that, but then maas-dhcpd.postinst does this: systemctl stop isc-dhcp-server >/dev/null || true systemctl disable isc-dhcp-server >/dev/null || true [16:21] <roaksoax> pitti: that should be ok right? or might that be causing the issue to happen? [16:21] <pitti> roaksoax: that looks fine [16:23] <roaksoax> pitti: this seems to be the unit with the source of the issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10866808/ [16:25] <pitti> roaksoax: apport just did its thing and we now have https://launchpadlibrarian.net/204019277/Stacktrace.txt [16:25] <pitti> roaksoax: that indeed looks like it: filename = 0x7fe715ffddb0 "/lib/systemd/system/maas-dhcpd.service" [16:27] <roaksoax> pitti: ok, I'll investigate [16:27] <roaksoax> thanks [16:27] <pitti> roaksoax: me too [16:27] <pitti> roaksoax: i. e. narrowing down the crash and cause [16:27] <infinity> rbasak: If you still think LP: #1434758 should be mentioned in the release notes, can you please add some text about it and close the bug? [16:39] <pitti> roaksoax: I found a much faster/simpler non-machine crashing reproducer, in the bug now [16:40] <pitti> roaksoax: you can check with systemd-analyze verify foo.service [16:40] <roaksoax> pitti: oh nice!! [16:40] <pitti> roaksoax: so that gives us a means to change the syntax until it stops crashing [16:40] <pitti> roaksoax: as a local workaround to unblock you until this gets fixed properly [16:41] <pitti> roaksoax: curiously it doesn't crash on my laptop [16:43] <roaksoax> pitti: uhmmm interesting... so it is only happening on a VM? [16:44] <pitti> roaksoax: unlikely, this is just a parser error; more likely related to different locale or what not, currently trying to find out [16:44] <pitti> roaksoax: that's mostly relevant for creating an upstream unit test [16:46] <pitti> roaksoax: got it [16:46] <pitti> roaksoax: second-last line has a space after the \ [16:46] <roaksoax> pitti: ah!! [16:46] <pitti> roaksoax: fix that, and it shold work [16:46] <roaksoax> pitti: great! thanks! [16:46] <pitti> roaksoax: but thanks for finding this, it'll make a nice test case [16:47] <pitti> roaksoax: it shold just fail with "boo bad syntax" [16:47] <roaksoax> pitti: althoguh, quite silly that systemd freaks out just for a whitespce :) [16:47] <pitti> roaksoax: well, sure [16:47] <pitti> roaksoax: it is broken shell either way, though, so it has to be fixed in the unit anyway [16:47] <peppelakappa> hello guys, i'm doing a little research about some patch you use in the graphic stack. ubuntu seems to be the only distro out there that can use all the resolutions of a retina macbook pro out of the box. anyone have info about this? [16:48] <pitti> roaksoax: I get it locally as well now [16:53] <pitti> roaksoax: so, I'll write an upstream test case and get that fixed, thanks for pointing out; scary :) [16:54] <roaksoax> pitti: hehe indeed... :) and someone complained about pustart.. and systemd freaks out for a white space :) [16:56] <jtaylor> hi, is em1_1 a valid name for a nic device? because /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/vlan does not have a sed clause for that [16:56] <jtaylor> and screws up setting up the vlan during boot :( [17:21] <cjwatson> mhall119: Hi, it looks like when you registered https://launchpad.net/sprints/uos-1505 you didn't notice that we fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1391281 a while back [17:22] <cjwatson> mhall119: If you edit the sprint and uncheck "Is the sprint being held in a physical location?", then attendees won't have to answer the Physically/Remotely question [17:38] <rbasak> infinity: will do [22:04] <roaksoax> pitti: so invoke-rc.d no longer works for systemd units? [22:06] <sarnold> roaksoax: I think the intention is for invoke-rc.d to work, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers#Commands [22:06] <roaksoax> sarnold: thanks!

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.196425

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-installer

[14:32] <_ruben> grmbl, do i hate making typos in preseed/late_command :p [20:50] <bdmurray> cyphermox: Have you seen bug 1447157? [20:52] <cyphermox> bdmurray: I have, but it wouldn't be caused by the fix for the other bug [20:53] <bdmurray> cyphermox: Ah, okay. [20:56] <cyphermox> I'll rerun the upgrade, there must be an simple explanation for this

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.199456

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-ops

[05:59] <Tm_T> bazhang: aww, and noone deopped me? [12:23] <Pici> !party [14:19] <DJones> popey: Just saw your email, what dates were the last uos/uds, I'm assuming the channels would have been logged at the time, if we know the dates, we should be able to see the logs and see which bot was doing what [14:19] <Pici> tsimpson had coordinated the bots last time around iirc [14:19] <popey> DJones: http://summit.ubuntu.com/past/ [14:19] <popey> that lists the dates previous summits happened [14:22] <DJones> I see a lot chanserv changing the topic like:- [14:22] <DJones> [14:22] <DJones> [14:23] <DJones> I'm assuming thats the right channels [14:24] <popey> yes, that's the kind of activity [14:25] <DJones> Sadly the channel didn't give any idea which bot was prompting it [14:32] <popey> :( [14:32] <popey> Is tsimpson not around anymore? [15:34] <tonyyarusso> Well, he's in the channel...so at least his network connection is up! [16:09] <popey> can we fix !isitout ? [16:10] <popey> !isitout [16:10] <popey> hah [16:10] <popey> ignore me [16:18] <tonyyarusso> is <reply> Did I SAY it was out? Maybe if you would LISTEN once in a while this relationship would be healthier. [16:19] <popey> :) [18:04] <genii> Oh! [18:08] <IdleOne> !no isitout is <reply> Did I SAY it was out? Maybe if you would LISTEN once in a while this relationship would be healthier. [18:09] <genii> Hehe [18:09] <Pici> heh [18:48] <tonyyarusso> awesome [18:51] <genii> ubottu: isitout-#ubuntu-release-party is <reply> Did I SAY it was out? Maybe if you would LISTEN once in a while this relationship would be healthier. [18:51] <genii> Hm [18:52] <genii> !unforget isitout-#ubuntu-release-party [18:52] <genii> ubottu: isitout-#ubuntu-release-party is <reply> Did I SAY it was out? Maybe if you would LISTEN once in a while this relationship would be healthier. [18:52] <genii> ubottu: no isitout-#ubuntu-release-party is <reply> Did I SAY it was out? Maybe if you would LISTEN once in a while this relationship would be healthier. [18:54] <genii> Pici: Whups, I saw after you already did it [19:21] * Pici blinks [19:22] <Pici> why do we need two of them? [19:22] <Unit193> Because one is the loneliest number. [23:18] <Unit193> bynarie: Hello.

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.204192

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-arm

[15:26] <flexiondotorg> The Ubuntu MATE have cooked up this - https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/ [15:31] <ogra_> nice [15:32] <ogra_> now do the same for snappy ;) [15:36] <flexiondotorg> ogra_, Did give it some thought :) [15:36] <ogra_> :)

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.205480

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-us-oh

[03:26] <Unit193> jackson: Hello. [03:26] <jackson> hi Unit193 [03:27] <Unit193> Ooh, you're alive! [03:27] <jackson> hmm u2 [03:27] <jackson> lol [03:28] <jackson> i'm actually from western PA [03:28] <jackson> Butler [03:29] <Unit193> Oh cool, I'm not complaining. Mind if I ask what brings you here though? [03:29] <cyberanger> jackson: Whereabouts? [03:29] <jackson> been here before [03:29] <cyberanger> Oh, Butler [03:29] <Unit193> cyberanger: Nice catch. [03:31] <jackson> my father was born in New Concord too [03:31] <jackson> and I have lived in Dayton for 4 years [03:31] <jackson> so I have a connection [03:32] <jackson> and butler is only 30 mins from Ohio [03:32] <jackson> soooo whet the ell [03:32] <jackson> what* [03:33] <jackson> so where are youns from? [03:34] <Unit193> Ohio, Mansfield area. Born in Akron though. [03:34] <jackson> k [03:35] * jackson was born in Augsburg Germany [03:35] <cyberanger> jackson: From Erie, PA, now live in Chattanooga, TN area [03:36] <jackson> cool [03:37] * jackson is retired and was a Automated building systems Tech [03:39] <jackson> I installed a computer in the utility roon and interconnected the whole building to run on a computer and that was from 1978 to 1993 [03:39] <jackson> room* [03:41] * jackson was an Energy Manger [03:41] <jackson> on nuf me tooting my horn [03:42] <jackson> and u guys? [03:44] <cyberanger> Title says System Administrator for one job, Stocker for another, really it's "Do the job, no matter the task" [03:46] <jackson> cool got to start some where and do what one has to do [03:48] <cyberanger> Yep [03:48] * jackson served in the USAF for 20 years 2 mts 2 days then I retired from the military in 1993 [03:51] * jackson is working with the Ardunio and Rasberry Pi too [03:54] <jackson> and u Unit193 [03:55] <jackson> :) [03:55] <Unit193> Me? Just trying to get more in the sysadmin side of things, not a programmer (unless it gets late at night.) [03:55] <jackson> lol k [03:56] <jackson> tks [03:57] <jackson> I also mess with solar power and related stuff [03:57] <cyberanger> That's always fun [03:57] <jackson> energy management for energy conservation [03:57] <cyberanger> Passive radar, SDR [04:05] <jackson> http://www.rtl-sdr.com/passive-radar-dual-coherent-channel-rtl-sdr/ [04:05] <jenni> [ Passive RADAR With a Dual Coherent Channel RTL-SDR - rtl-sdr.com ] - https://j.mp/1bsBHFf [04:05] <jackson> cool [04:07] <jackson> I worked insupport of scope dopes operating a 50 Megwatt radar tower on the Calif coast for 3 years interesting [04:08] <jackson> jenni: list [04:08] <jenni> List all the things you know [04:08] <jackson> haha got 5 years [04:09] <jackson> jenni version [04:09] <jenni> Version [04:09] <jenni> like 1.0.2 [04:23] <jackson> cyberanger and Unit193 i have a chanel on ((Server: irc.spotchat.org #living_green)) and you and others are invited to hangout. The chanel is about: Living more efficiently using a smaller Carbon footprint. [04:27] <jackson> *channel [05:49] <canthus13> weird. I thought I was in any other channel BUT this one. there's activity. Like... a full screen of it. o.O [05:51] <Unit193> From PA, TN, and OH. [05:51] <Unit193> Took 3 states to get this much. [14:54] <thafreak> now we just need markdude from CA to join in [15:49] * dzho checking in from OH, far east division [15:49] <dzho> (NY) [15:51] <dzho> jackson: I lived in Dayton for a bit, too. It was all last century, so . . . [15:51] <thafreak> last century...way to make yourself seem even older than you are :) [15:52] <dzho> dude, the Internet, it ages us [15:52] <dzho> you know how they talk about Internet time? the kids, they have no idea. [15:52] <dzho> cut your connections now, while there's still time [15:52] <dzho> SAVE YOURSELVES [16:01] <thafreak> did you say get an lte connection to my brain? [16:02] <thafreak> dzho: have you purchased a laptop recently? I'm in the market and struggling [16:02] <thafreak> I'm wanting to want the system76 gallago because it has everything I want... [16:03] <thafreak> but worried about build quality a bit... [16:04] <thafreak> then there's the new dell xps, but it's basically more expensive than a mac, with similar limited options [16:04] <thafreak> and no ethernet port, only 2 usb3 ports [19:39] <yano> https://fi.google.com/ :o [19:39] <jenni> [ Project Fi ] - https://j.mp/1DOEkua [20:01] <dzho> thafreak: the thinkpad twist I have I still have problems with Ubuntu 12.04 going into a hard freeze on it, so I'm afraid I can't offer much advice there. [20:06] <yano> .nws 43210 [20:06] <jenni> Frost Advisory issued April 22 at 3:45PM EDT until April 23 at 8:00AM EDT by NWS [20:06] <jenni> Complete weather watches, warnings, and advisories for Columbus, OH, available here: http://alerts.weather.gov/cap/wwaatmget.php?x=OHC049 -- You may also PM the bot to get more details. [20:06] <yano> heh [20:06] <Unit193> Temp: 39 F (4 C) ~ Overcast ~ Windchill: 30 F (-1 C) ~ Humidity: 62% ~ Observed: Wed 22, 15:52 [20:06] <Unit193> :D

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.210327

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-qc

[00:55] <cyphermox> c'est cool, y'a de nouveaux nicks que j'ai pas vu avant [00:56] <cyphermox> stackfault: steph2: bonjour. [14:42] <stackfault> Salut cyphermox! Dsl, j'etais comme afk depuis 2 jours! [14:43] <Max_LeLiseux> salut a tous [14:43] <Max_LeLiseux> j'vient de tester la distribution toutou linux 4.3.6 pis j'reste assez septique :( [14:44] <Max_LeLiseux> bien que j'roule en Lubuntu 14.04, dans quelque temps, j'vais installer Lubuntu 15.04 question que les bug soit corrigé [20:20] <Tr3nT> salut [20:20] <Tr3nT> j'ai un probleme avec les mise a jour [20:25] <Ankman> quel probleme? [20:28] <Tr3nT> ah bonjour [20:28] <Tr3nT> bonsoir * [20:29] <Tr3nT> bin je ne peu plus faire de mise a jour [20:29] <Tr3nT> sa me dit [20:30] <Tr3nT> Il semble qu'il y ait une erreur de programmation dans aptdaemon, le logiciel qui vous permet d'installer et supprimer des logiciels et tout autre tâche liée à la gestion des paquets. [20:30] <Tr3nT> je suis un peu perdu la besoin d'aide svp [20:31] <Ankman> installee avec synaptics? ou aptitude, apt-get ? [20:33] <Tr3nT> avec la fenetre de controle ( la page violet ) je tape sudo apt-get update ( sa marche pas non plus ) [20:34] <Tr3nT> puis ya la fenetre qui vien automatiquement pour la mise a jour, je demande la mise a jour et toujout rien sa me dit erreur... :s [20:36] <Ankman> ok... [20:36] <Tr3nT> je c pas si ta compris [20:37] <Tr3nT> mais je suis bloquer [20:37] <Ankman> etre root? [20:37] <Tr3nT> c'est a dire ? [20:37] <Tr3nT> super admin .. [20:37] <Tr3nT> ? [20:37] <Ankman> yeah [20:37] <Tr3nT> ok je vais tester [20:37] <Ankman> ouvrer un terminal (gnome-terminal) [20:37] <Ankman> sudo su [20:38] <Ankman> aptitude [20:38] <Ankman> il marche? [20:38] <Tr3nT> sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/ciana/0: Système de fichiers accessible en lecture seulement [20:38] <Ankman> oooh [20:38] <Tr3nT> c'est quoi :s ? [20:38] <Tr3nT> :'( [20:38] <Tr3nT> aller rien de grave ....??????????? [20:39] <Ankman> il semble... attend, je fait rechercher [20:39] <Tr3nT> ok [20:39] <Tr3nT> j'attend :$ [20:39] <Ankman> read-only file system? [20:40] <Tr3nT> c'est quoi ? [20:40] <Tr3nT> je suis débutant [20:40] <Ankman> on ne peut pas changer rien [20:40] <Ankman> ok, test... [20:40] <Ankman> touch test.txt [20:40] <Ankman> ca marche? [20:40] <Tr3nT> attend je test [20:41] <Tr3nT> W: Verrou non utilisé pour le fichier /var/lib/apt/lists/lock en lecture seule [20:41] <Tr3nT> E: Couldn't create temporary file to work with /var/lib/apt/lists/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_Release - mkstemp (30: Système de fichiers accessible en lecture seulement) [20:41] <Tr3nT> W: Verrou non utilisé pour le fichier /var/lib/dpkg/lock en lecture seule [20:41] <Tr3nT> pfou je capte plus rien la [20:43] <Ankman> ok [20:43] <Ankman> essaye [20:43] <Ankman> sudo fsck -Af -M [20:45] <Tr3nT> fsck de util-linux 2.20.1 [20:46] <Ankman> c'est tout? [20:46] <Tr3nT> oui [20:46] <Tr3nT> ya marquer que sa [20:46] <Ankman> umm, btw. mon francaise n'est pas bon. parlez-vous anglaise? [20:47] <Ankman> autre option [20:47] <Ankman> sudo mount -o remount,rw / [20:48] <Tr3nT> non que Français dsl [20:50] <Tr3nT> sa me donne rien [20:50] <Tr3nT> sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/ciana/0: Système de fichiers accessible en lecture seulement [20:50] <Tr3nT> mount : impossible de remonter périphérique bloc /dev/sda1 en lecture/écriture, est protégé en écriture [20:50] <Ankman> ok [20:50] <Ankman> on peut reboot? [20:51] <Tr3nT> c'est quoi reboot ? [20:51] <Tr3nT> se remetre en admin ? [20:52] <Ankman> redemarer [20:54] <Ankman> ah, j'ai fait un erreur. c'est [20:54] <Ankman> sudo fsck -Af [20:54] <Ankman> sans "-M" [20:55] <Tr3nT> sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/ciana/0: Système de fichiers accessible en lecture seulement [20:55] <Tr3nT> fsck de util-linux 2.20.1 [20:55] <Tr3nT> e2fsck 1.42.9 (4-Feb-2014) [20:55] <Tr3nT> /dev/sda1 : récupération du journal [20:55] <Tr3nT> Passe 1 : vérification des i-noeuds, des blocs et des tailles [20:55] <Tr3nT> l'i-noeud effacé 9830411 a un dtime nul. Corriger<o>? [20:55] <Tr3nT> je fais quoi ? [20:56] <Ankman> o [20:56] <Tr3nT> ok [20:57] <Ankman> tapper "o" chaque fois il demande [20:57] <Tr3nT> sa ma fermer la fenetre [20:57] <Ankman> ca peut prend beaucoup de temps. mais il maintenant reparer le "corrupt file system" [20:57] <Ankman> oh [20:57] <Tr3nT> j'ai tape o a chaque fois [20:58] <Ankman> et il completee le job? [20:58] <Tr3nT> sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/ciana/0: Système de fichiers accessible en lecture seulement [20:58] <Tr3nT> fsck de util-linux 2.20.1 [20:58] <Tr3nT> e2fsck 1.42.9 (4-Feb-2014) [20:58] <Tr3nT> Passe 1 : vérification des i-noeuds, des blocs et des tailles [20:58] <Tr3nT> Passe 2 : vérification de la structure des répertoires [20:58] <Tr3nT> Passe 3 : vérification de la connectivité des répertoires [20:58] <Tr3nT> Passe 4 : vérification des compteurs de référence [20:58] <Tr3nT> Passe 5 : vérification de l'information du sommaire de groupe [20:58] <Tr3nT> différences de bitmap de blocs : -24266789 -24266791 [20:58] <Tr3nT> Corriger<o>? oui [20:59] <Tr3nT> Le décompte des blocs libres est erroné pour le groupe n°740 (24601, décompté=24603). [20:59] <Tr3nT> Corriger<o>? oui [20:59] <Tr3nT> Le décompte des blocs libres est erroné (42536766, décompté=42524773). [20:59] <Tr3nT> Corriger<o>? oui [20:59] <Tr3nT> différences de bitmap d'i-noeuds : -9830411 -9830416 [20:59] <Tr3nT> Corriger<o>? oui [20:59] <Tr3nT> Le décompte des i-noeuds libres est erroné pour le groupe n°1200 (8140, décompté=8142). [20:59] <Tr3nT> Corriger<o>? oui [20:59] <Tr3nT> Le décompte des i-noeuds libres est erroné (10896321, décompté=10896297). [20:59] <Tr3nT> Corriger<o>? oui [20:59] <Tr3nT> /dev/sda1: ***** LE SYSTÈME DE FICHIERS A ÉTÉ MODIFIÉ ***** [20:59] <Tr3nT> /dev/sda1 : ***** RÉ-AMORCER LINUX ***** [20:59] <Tr3nT> /dev/sda1 : 400471/11296768 fichiers (0.1% non contigüs), 2641051/45165824 blocs [20:59] <Ankman> ok [20:59] <Ankman> essaye de redemarrer [20:59] <Ankman> sudo reboot [21:01] <Ankman> heh, that at least works :-)

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.225083

2015-04-22-#bzr

[00:10] <spiv> And you can 'bzr uncommit' if you screwed up the commit somehow :) [01:04] <fullermd> Oh, hi spiv :)

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.226125

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-mythtv

[00:32] <usr13> Trying to get kodi to connect to mythbuntu 14.04 Doesn't seem to work. Anyone have an idea as to what I might look for here? [00:33] <usr13> Maybe a list of common problems? [03:56] <Shadow__X> usr13: mythbuntu?

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.228548

2015-04-22-#launchpad

[04:08] <hyper_ch> hmmmmm, did the launchpad ppa urls change? [04:09] <hyper_ch> e.g. I get 404 on https://ppa.launchpad.net/tiheum/equinox/ubuntu [06:22] <wgrant> hyper_ch: http, not https [06:22] <wgrant> https is for private PPAs. [06:29] <hyper_ch> wgrant: when did that change? [06:29] <hyper_ch> I've had it like this as bookmarks for ages [06:30] <wgrant> hyper_ch: Literally never. [06:30] <hyper_ch> owait [06:30] <wgrant> You're not running something like HTTPS Everywhere, are you? [06:30] <hyper_ch> I think that's it [06:31] <hyper_ch> yeah, that's it... seems they change it now to https [06:31] <hyper_ch> but then, why not use https by default [06:32] <wgrant> HTTP and HTTPS provide different services on ppa.launchpad.net. [06:34] <hyper_ch> like? [06:34] <wgrant> HTTP is for public PPAs, and HTTPS is for private PPAs. [06:35] <hyper_ch> but why not make everything https? [06:35] <wgrant> Because that's not how things were done initially, and there's very little reason to change that now. [06:35] <wgrant> PPAs are authenticated by OpenPGP signatures, not HTTPS, so HTTPS provides very little benefit to public PPAs. [06:35] <wgrant> And it prevents proxies from caching them. [06:36] <hyper_ch> little benefit? [06:36] <hyper_ch> hmmm, I seem to remember that everybody says that it's important to know who connects to whom/what..... [06:36] <hyper_ch> so using https would help here [06:36] <wgrant> That's the sole benefit, yes. [06:37] <wgrant> But it doesn't prevent attackers from knowing that you connected to ppa.launchpad.net. Just precisely what you downloaded. [06:37] <hyper_ch> so that's a good reason [06:37] <wgrant> It is something that may change in the future. [06:37] <hyper_ch> anyway, thx for clearing this up... I guess I need to make an exception to https [13:45] <cjwatson> LP will be offline for a few seconds shortly for a database schema upgrade. [14:53] <ricotz> hello, please take a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/265701 [14:53] <cjwatson> (DB upgrade complete) [14:54] <cjwatson> ricotz: No need to ping us on IRC, those of us who can do such things are subscribed to answers.lp.net/launchpad so get them by mail [14:54] <cjwatson> as it happens that's not one of the things I can do, but I expect William will be around shortly :) [14:55] <ricotz> cjwatson, sorry, I wanted to minimize the delay, since I already uploaded new package and noticed the space got exceeded :\ [14:58] <ricotz> wgrant, thanks! [14:58] <wgrant> Ah, hi. [14:58] <wgrant> Yes, done.

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.234693

2015-04-22-#kubuntu

[00:01] <AndroUser> (AndroUser) In okular, when using the drawing tool I cannot block the tool for making long handwriting Can you try if you can? I thing is somethinh wrong in my computer cause before i could, it started when changing the default stroke color [03:28] <excalibr> So when the final 15.04 iso will be out? [03:29] <excalibr> I'm all set for making a jump from Unity [03:51] <romber> Hi guys, how can I change GDM_LANG in kubuntu? [03:52] <romber> I had export GDM_LANG in my .bashrc, and it work to launch application in my language if I run from terminal. But if I launch application from krunner or application menu, the language still is en_US. [04:06] <GunnDawg> romber: maybe change the application menus icon settings to point to your bash script instead of the default program launcher? [04:12] <valorie> !vivid | excalibr [04:14] * denza252 can't wait [04:14] <denza252> ...for all my packages to break thanks to the KDE PPAs I have enabled >.> [04:25] <romber> GunnDawg, yes it's what I do now.. but I have to set for every application that use GDM ;( [06:19] <soee> good morning [07:32] <sizziff> Hello [07:33] <sizziff> I use Kubuntu one week - nice system [07:33] <hateball> :) [08:11] <pgquiles> I'm having trouble when installing vivid daily on a uefi laptop. EFI is enabled, SecureBoot is disabled. Should the installation work out of the box, or should I use refind? [08:17] <aliman> hi all. can anybody suggest me any post installation programs or something i need for kubuntu? i'm new to linux and i just installed kubuntu [08:18] <faust> aliman: you are the only one who knows what you need [08:20] <aliman> faust, i thought there are some things that are needed for kubuntu to work properly [08:23] <GunnDawg> aliman: If it boots up and you're able to use it then what more are you wanting? [08:24] <faust> aliman: I hope that anything that is needed for kubuntu to work properly is installed by default when you install kubuntu [08:25] <aliman> mhm, i understand [08:37] <eagles051387_> !aptfix [09:53] <lordievader> Good morning. [09:54] <GunnDawg> Morning [09:55] <lordievader> Hey GunnDawg [09:55] <lordievader> How are you doing? [09:56] <GunnDawg> oh pretty up, up late. [09:56] <GunnDawg> pretty good* [10:04] <jermaine> Hey fellas, had a question for ya, if I go ahead and install tonight's build of kubuntu, will transitioning to the full release be easy enough? [10:05] <lordievader> Ah, I forgot the factoid :( [10:05] <lordievader> jermaine: If you update you'll get the released Vivid. [10:05] <jermaine> just the typical apt-get upgrade will do? [10:07] <lordievader> jermaine: Make that a dist-upgrade and yes ;) [10:07] <jermaine> Thanks sith lord! [11:00] <nicon`> Hi all. I'm trying to set keyboard shorcut for "paste" in konsole to ctrl+v - it doesn't work (works only for current session, after creating new window/new tab it disapear from shorcuts), is there any way to fix it? [11:01] <nicon`> I'm using kubuntu 15.04. [11:06] <hateball> nicon`: are you editing the default profile? [11:07] <nicon`> hateball: keyboard shorcuts changes works for all profiles. [11:07] <nicon`> I changed many shorcuts, like switch to tab [1-9]... [11:07] <nicon`> All shorcuts works without a problem, except paste one. [11:08] <nicon`> Interesting thing: when I configure paste to ctrl+v it not only doesn't work in another session... When I switch to other tab and then go back to previous one, then it also stops working for "current" tab. [11:08] <nicon`> Example: I'm on tab1 and I'm changing paste settings to ctrl+v. [11:08] <nicon`> Testing => it's working. [11:09] <nicon`> Switching tab to tab2, testing => it's not working. [11:09] <nicon`> Switching tab to tab1, testing => it's not working :-) [11:27] <amari> Hi, how do I install a new language after Kubuntu is installed? I tried to move the language to the right list in System settings. But then some parts of the desktop (most of it) don't get translated. Do I have to install the language packs manually? [11:31] <amari> Hi, how do I install a new language after Kubuntu is installed? I tried to move the language to the right list in System settings. But then some parts of the desktop (most of it) don't get translated. Do I have to install the language packages manually? [11:31] <lordievader> !patience| amari [11:37] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all [11:41] <abdelaziz> can someone explain to me what does baloofile do? [11:43] <BluesKaj> !baloo | abdelaziz [11:43] <BluesKaj> !search [11:44] <BluesKaj> abdelaziz, look in system settings>search [12:48] <Riddell> ** testers needed for final 15.04 candidate images and upgrades, join us in #kubuntu-devel to help out [12:51] <SporkWitch> anyone know if there's any way to get yakuake or konsole to do the "x-ray" background like gnome terminal? That is, if the terminal window is on top of another window, the transparency shows the desktop background instead of the window that's underneath it? [13:02] <hateball> Riddell: How does one help out? Is that question answered in -devel perhaps? [13:04] <compyuser> please help no sound in ubuntu r14 [13:21] <Syco54645> hello i am on kubuntu 15.04 beta and certain apps are not showing a tray icon [13:21] <Syco54645> pidgin and xchat being two of them. any ideas or is this a bug? [13:25] <hateball> Syco54645: They are GTK apps, probably not updated to work with plasma 5 is my guess [13:34] <Syco54645> hateball, that is what i figured. should i log a bug with kubuntu? Is that something that they would take care of or would it be up to the apps devs? [13:35] <hateball> Syco54645: The app devs afaik, but I am no expert on the matter :) [13:35] <hateball> Syco54645: The easy solution would be to use Quassel and... whatever one uses in place of Pidgin :p [13:40] <Syco54645> hateball, i have not used kde since 2.0. was an avid gnome2 user so still figuring stuff out [13:41] <Syco54645> i was actually trying to find something to replace pidgin with [13:43] <hateball> I think there is something, I just cant remember the name since I dont use these things [13:44] <hateball> Kopete was one thing [13:45] <Syco54645> yeah just looked at that [14:13] <bduncan> Syco54645: telepathy is the thing now. look for IM contacts in the Internet menu [14:33] <Syco54645> bduncan, that didnt seem to work correctly for me [14:36] <bduncan> Syco54645: have you got kde-telepathy installed? [14:36] <Syco54645> yes [14:36] <Syco54645> let me try it again, i have gotten alot of updates lately [14:42] <Syco54645> yes does not work. doesnt work with 2 step auth for google talk [14:43] <bduncan> Syco54645: ah yes that's true. i had to set up a "per-application" password for it [14:43] <Syco54645> i did that and it will not sign in [14:43] <Syco54645> i will stick with pidgin for now [14:43] <bduncan> have you tried signing in 3 times? :) [14:44] <Syco54645> and hope that they fix the tray icon [14:44] <Syco54645> i tried 4 times [14:44] <Syco54645> why 3? [14:44] <bduncan> i find that i have to keep clicking OK on the password box, i never figured out why... [14:44] <Syco54645> probably a bug [14:44] <bduncan> but then i didn't try very hard to debug it [14:44] <Syco54645> i will try it again in a month or so [14:44] <bduncan> you should report it as a bug [14:44] <bduncan> i'll vote for it! [14:45] <Syco54645> right now i need to get to work [14:45] <Syco54645> dont feel like working late tonight [14:45] <Syco54645> ;) [14:46] <bduncan> join the club, sadly having spent an hour having a barbeque in the sunshine, it might be necessary! [15:30] <mamonetti> hi [15:31] <mamonetti> has anybody had problems with apps trying to load the kde print dialog and staying frozen for minutes before getting it? I mean any kde app, such as kate or okular [15:31] <mamonetti> for some reason it has started to happen to me this morning after deleting with synaptic the old kernels of my system (apparently everything was fine) [15:33] <mamonetti> i think it might be related to kde looking for network printers, as i get the list updated everytime i'm going to print, but i'm not sure [15:41] <Andludsch1866> free net working bevor all visit.... [15:49] <Andludsch1866> too freenet working before all to visit connection.... [15:51] <Andludsch1866> all right to low [15:54] <Andludsch1866> too Operator Drone and Unopaste.......okay! [15:57] <Andludsch1866> kubunto 14.10 and windows 8.1 compatable.......okay! [15:58] <Andludsch1866> kubuntu 14.10 and windows 8.1 compatable ......all [16:00] <Andludsch1866> good looking, goodbye.....all here! [16:22] <LGTrader> Hi. New to Kubuntu coming from 12 years using Gentoo. I'm not clear how to discover the name of a repository so that I can add it in Muon. I need to add a newer NVidia driver (rev. 346 or later) to use with NVidia Digits. [16:28] <Riddell> LGTrader: try driver manager in systemsettings [16:32] <LGTrader> Riddell: That is how I got to nvidia-drivers but it only shows nvidia-drivers-331 and lower. I suspect I need to add a repository to get more leading edge packages but don't know how to determine what repositoy name (or modifier at the end) to add [16:33] <Riddell> oh I'm on vivid that's why I have it [16:33] <LGTrader> Riddell: The command 'ubuntu-drivers devices' shows the same thing. [16:34] <LGTrader> Riddell: Sorry. What's 'vivid'? A newer version of kubuntu/ubuntu? [16:34] <Riddell> LGTrader: yes, it's the new version we will release tomorrow as 15.04 [16:35] <LGTrader> Riddell: Being that I installed 14.10 yesterday if I wait until tomorrow and reinstall/upgrade will it all 'just work'? [16:36] <MoonUnit`> might be better to install it today, the repos will get hammered on release day. [16:36] <mewshi> LGTrader, upgrading from 14.10 to 15.04 (beta) worked for me the other day, and I must say, Plasma 5 is amazing o.o [16:38] <Riddell> LGTrader: you can join us for testing if you want :) [16:38] <mewshi> and, by now, everything should be effectively hammered out so there won't be much, if any, difference between today and tomorrow [16:38] <Riddell> testing is in #kubuntu-devel [16:39] <LGTrader> ALL: Downloading the vivid iso now. Let me try this out and see how it goes. I suspect I still would like to get and answer to the general question "I want to run application XYZ but Muon doesn't show it. How do I figure out what repository has it?" [16:39] <Riddell> sadly there's no easy answer to that besides maybe search launchpad ppas [16:39] <mewshi> LGTrader, if you have 14.10 installed, you don't need the iso (unless you wanna do a fresh install) [16:40] <Riddell> LGTrader: would be much appreciated if you can fill out http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds once it's installed [16:44] <LGTrader> Burning the iso now. Will work on this upgrade (or do a reinstall) after a doctors appt. Bookmarked the questionaire and will try to do that also Riddell. Thanks! [16:45] <BluesKaj> on 15.04 there are a few small problems like the desktop theme known as breeze-dark isn't dark at all it buries the icons in the panel so they can't be seen , but it's the only one that misbehaves on my install [16:46] <BluesKaj> oops sorry for the poor punctuation [16:48] <LGTrader> Riddell:Disappointing that there's no easy way. Gentoo uses 'eix' to see what's in portage and the overlays I'm currently set up for, but also has 'eix-remote' which searches all overlays so it's very easy to figure out what to add. [16:48] <LGTrader> Anyway, not complaining. I thin kubuntu is going to work well for me once I get past the shock of all new sys admin practices. (Like using sudo all the time) [16:49] <LGTrader> Anyway, I'm outa here for now to do the install [16:49] <LGTrader> Thanks! [16:55] <BluesKaj> no need for sudo all the time if you use aliases in ~/.bashrc and all no pw in the sudoers [16:59] <faust> BluesKaj: I would not advise to set NOPASSWD in sudoers [16:59] <faust> for ALL [17:01] <BluesKaj> faust, I'm not advising , merely making a comment , if users really want to use no pw and shorten the commnads inn the konsole they'll find a way by searching google. That's how I found the mehods i use to make things simpler. [17:02] <faust> I just wanted to make it clear for the casual reader that may think that it is a good idea [17:03] <BluesKaj> if you notice I didn't use the correct command for the sudoers entry\ [17:04] <BluesKaj> faust, well perhaps you wouldn't recommend it , but I haven't had any problems with security using those settings [17:05] <faust> BluesKaj: good for you [17:06] <BluesKaj> well, I'm a home user with no others using this pc and a lot of ppl here are just like me [17:07] <Andludsch1866> thanke by for alone to command this programe pleace [17:08] <BluesKaj> whoa Andludsch1866, something lost in translation there [17:09] <Andludsch1866> advis and code all programe good idea... [17:09] <Andludsch1866> okay [17:10] <BluesKaj> BBL [17:11] <Andludsch1866> I who that.... [17:21] <MoonUnit`> mmm tempting http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.3-beta [17:58] <drw> MoonUnit`: Hasn't killed my system so far...YMMV [18:37] <acz32> anyone know if dolphin or konqueror can do custom command actions? [19:30] <LGTrader> Riddell: I did an install of the 15.04 prerelease. The install went fine. However after updating the nvidia-drivers package to version 346 I no longer have graphics. This is a _Very_ odd machine config so I don't think this will occur for others but as of right now I have issues. [19:30] <LGTrader> Riddell: I will work on filing a report later today. [19:40] <compyuser> hello, please help no sound (dummy output) in ubuntu\ [19:42] <tuv0k> clean install? [19:46] <compyuser> yes [19:46] <compyuser> tuv0k my first install [19:46] <tuv0k> go into setting and switch default output device [19:47] <acz32> anyone know why installing a new service through dolphin might fail? [19:48] <compyuser> tuv0k the only output device is : dummy output :( [19:49] <tuv0k> does not sound right after a fresh install unless there is no sound card in the machine [19:49] <tuv0k> if there is a hardware sound device, you might want to look again? [19:50] <compyuser> tuv0k there is the via technologies chip....a difficult chip for linux installed [19:50] <tuv0k> which ubuntu version you install? [19:50] <compyuser> tuv0k especially the via 1720/24 chip [19:51] <compyuser> tuv0k r14 [19:51] <tuv0k> ? [19:51] <compyuser> tuv0k Ubuntu r14 [19:51] <tuv0k> 14.04? 14.10? [19:52] <tuv0k> compyuser: aplay -l [19:52] <compyuser> tuv0k 14.04 [19:53] <compyuser> tuv0k 14.04 LTS [19:53] <tuv0k> run that cmd in terminal [19:53] <compyuser> aplay -l ---> empty list [19:54] <tuv0k> compyuser: sudo aplay -l [19:55] <compyuser> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** [19:55] <compyuser> Home directory not accessible: Permission denied [19:55] <lordievader> Aplay gives an empty list? Could you pastebin the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A2 Audio'? [19:56] <compyuser> lspci -k|grep -A2 Audio [19:56] <compyuser> 03:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01) [19:56] <compyuser> Subsystem: VIA Technologies Inc. Albatron PX865PE 7.1 [19:56] <lordievader> !paste | compyuser [19:56] <lordievader> Could you paste it via pastebin please? [19:57] <compyuser> ok [19:57] <tuv0k> http://askubuntu.com/questions/460035/dummy-output-sound-in-ubuntu-14-04 [20:01] <compyuser> tuv0k Are u sure this will sove my problem.... [20:01] <compyuser> ? [20:01] <compyuser> tuv0k Are u sure this will solve my problem.... [20:01] <compyuser> ? [20:02] <tuv0k> of course not. I'd only be sure if I was the one actually working on your machine [20:03] <compyuser> tuv0k My problem is I tried many things,,,,but I m not able to solve it.... [20:03] <tuv0k> we are trying to help you [20:04] <compyuser> tuv0k my soundchip Via 1720/24 i believe it will not functioning in ubuntu...anda I have to buy a new soundcard [20:04] <lordievader> compyuser: Could you pastebin that output for me please? [20:08] <tuv0k> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/envy24control.1.html [20:09] <tuv0k> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2208700 [20:09] <tuv0k> compyuser: are you going to paste that output? [20:12] <lucas_> Riddell: ping? [20:13] <lucas_> ah hi to everyone [20:13] <lordievader> Hey lucas_ [20:15] <Riddell> hi lucas_! [20:15] <Riddell> lucas_: /join #kubuntu-devel [20:16] <lucas_> ok [20:17] <LGTrader> Riddell: You back? [20:18] <Riddell> hi LGTrader [20:21] <LGTrader> Riddell: Hi. I did the 15.04 install. It worked fine until I installed the nvidia-drivers-346 package. My config is admittedly quite odd. I want to use kubuntu/nvidia as a 'Deep Learning' platform using NVidia's Digits program. This requires 346 for the compute GPUs, but I have 2 cards, an old 9600 driving the monitor and a GX465 with no monitors hooked up to be used as only a calculation engine [20:21] <LGTrader> Anyway, I lost X after installing 346 due to no xorg.conf file and the system trying to use the wrong driver so I'm starting over. [20:23] <LGTrader> I'll install from scratch (almost done) generate xorg.conf using nouveau driver, and then see if I can still get X that way after installing 346 [20:24] <Riddell> good luck LGTrader! [20:25] <LGTrader> Yeah, uncharted ground for me. We'll see. [20:25] <LGTrader> This wouldn't have been any easier, possibly more difficult, on Gentoo. [20:26] <LGTrader> Can you post that URL for the report you wanted me to file? I thought I bookmarked it but I'm not finding it. Chrome has changed its bookmark feature in the last few days. [20:29] <commongeeksgame> hi [20:50] <LGTrader> Does kubuntu-15.04 support a RAID1 installation directly without having to download packages by hand? [20:50] <tuv0k> don't remember ever not being able to [21:00] <dale_> where are the title bar menus in thunderbird/firefox/oethers? [21:00] <tuv0k> dale_: what? [21:01] <dale_> I don't see title bar menus in thunderbird or firefox? [21:02] <tuv0k> don't know what you are looking at. Screenshot? [21:03] <lordievader> LGTrader: If that is LVM RAID1, yes. If that is MDADM RAID1, I thought not. [21:03] <dale_> well, there is the title bar, then the tabs, but no menu in between? [21:03] <LGTrader> lordievader: I was looking for mdadm software RAID1. Thanks [21:04] <lordievader> Yeah, I though that one was not installed by default. [21:04] * lordievader uses lvm raid :D [21:17] <LGTrader> lordievader: I know nothing about LVM RAID. Can a LVM RAID use two different hard drives to make RAID1? I'll have to go try and find some info on that as I've never used LVM [21:18] <tuv0k> yes [21:18] <acz32> can dolphin or konqueror to custom right-click actions? [21:20] <genii> Yes, but you have to tinker [21:20] <genii> acz32: Maybe take a look at http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201210/page09.html ..a bit old but still relevent [21:23] <acz32> genii: thanks for the link [21:23] <genii> acz32: You're welcome.. hopefully you can make one which does what you like :) [21:27] <acz32> thanks. i'm used to xfce/thunar and miss that feature [21:28] <acz32> nice to see there's a way to do it even if it's more involved [21:30] <lordievader> LGTrader: LVM can do a lot, including a lot of different raid configurations. [21:31] <lordievader> LGTrader: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/LVM [21:32] <rberg> I have always wondered why you would use lvm mirror over of raid 1 [21:33] <lordievader> We, at the study association, do not. [21:36] <rberg> huh.. why may I ask? [21:38] <lordievader> Friend of mine explained lvm can do two types of mirroring, lvm mirror or raid1 mirroring. [21:38] <lordievader> Never looked into it myself. [21:39] <rberg> ohh I see. I have used lvm on top of raid before but not lvm mirroring [21:41] <lordievader> rberg: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Logical_Volume_Manager_Administration/convert-mirror-to-RAID1.html [21:42] <lordievader> "New versions of LVM can use the same raid implementations from MD." http://serverfault.com/questions/97845/lvm-mirroring-vs-raid1 That actually explains a lot. [21:44] <rberg> interesting.. thanks for the links [21:44] <lordievader> No problem ;) [21:45] <lordievader> Learned something myself :) [21:58] <vertago1> I did a test upgrade to vivid without any major hitches :) [22:12] <LGTrader> lordievader: Good links on the LVM RAID1 question as far as they go, but I don't see enough info yet to construct a machine that mounts a RAID1 root device. At least on my Gentoo machine (where I am currently using a RAID6 root) I have to create an initrd file and then run busybox to get mdadm to assemble the RAID6. I know the kernel can do a RAID1 root device with the older 0.9 metadata format, but any newer metadata requires an [22:14] <LGTrader> No problem using LVM RAID1 for simple storage though, as best I can tell. [22:16] <rberg> I gotta go, but I believe you ahev to put /boot on a raid 1. so any disk found has all the data, then the initrd can assemble the more advanced raid levels [22:16] <lordievader> LGTrader: My server boots fine to an LVM RAID1 rootfs. Must say /boot is on an md raid1. [22:16] <LGTrader> OK, then I stand corrected as LVM isn't mdadm and the metadata thing is mdadm [22:17] <LGTrader> If BIOS can spin it up and read it, even if it's just reading one device, then it can likely boot it [22:17] <LGTrader> Again, I've never sed LVM so this is something I need to study [22:18] <lordievader> It's grub who read it ;) [22:18] <TJ-> LGTrader: metadata=1.0 puts it at the end of the device, so it can be used on a boot device. 1.1 and 1.2 but it at or near the start of the device, which is what causes problems for non-mdadm-aware tools [22:19] <TJ-> LGTrader: I have all my non-laptop systems use RAID-1 boot disks so firmware can still boot it if 1 device fails [22:20] <LGTrader> TJ: Thanks. [22:29] <QualityAddict> While back I saw a release date of tomorrow for 15.04. Is that still on track? [22:29] <QualityAddict> Anxious to try out the new look. [22:30] <krytarik> QualityAddict: Yep. [22:31] <QualityAddict> krytarik: Fantastic! Thanks. [22:35] <asgasg> will you announce it here? [23:21] <Scunizi> User Manager in system settings of 14.04 is pretty worthless. How do I get to one where I can see all the users and groups? [23:31] <Scunizi> had to install kuser ... ergggggg [23:41] <toan__> does anyone know where i can download the Kubuntu 15.04 LTS that's going to be released tomorrow? [23:42] <GunnDawg> toan__: did you try to google "Kubuntu 15.04"? [23:42] <GunnDawg> toan__: its all right there... [23:43] <toan__> thats' the beta 2 version [23:43] <GunnDawg> so you're wanting to know where to download something thats not been released yet? [23:44] <toan__> know what i mean [23:44] <GunnDawg> I dont [23:44] <acz32> is alsa recommended over pulseaudio with kde? [23:44] <GunnDawg> acz32: I use pulse with no issues [23:45] <acz32> ok [23:45] <toan__> aka prerelease version [23:45] <GunnDawg> oh, so the beta? [23:49] <toan__> yea [23:49] <GunnDawg> you said earlier you didnt want that. I told you to google it and you said "That's just the beta" [23:49] <toan__> GunnDawg, i am looking for the official release ver. [23:50] <toan__> i can get the beta 2 version easily [23:50] <GunnDawg> It doesnt release until tomorrow [23:50] <toan__> i know, that's why i ask [23:50] <genii> toan__: The latest images available are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ ... 15.04 is not LTS though. LTS releases are the ones which are every 2 years on the even numbered years. So the next one will be April 2016, the 16.04 [23:51] <GunnDawg> genii: \0/ [23:51] <toan__> genii, that that the one that will be released tomorrow? [23:52] <GunnDawg> toan__: no, the one that releases tomorrow, will be released tomorrow [23:52] <toan__> :-( [23:52] <genii> toan__: It is the closest there is to that right now. Just get this one, then tomorrow use zsync to get the differences ( if any) between this image and the final one [23:52] <genii> !zsync | toan__ [23:53] <genii> toan__: All the different releases will be out in about 15-16 hours from now. [23:53] <toan__> ubottu, do you know what time (in utc) it will be release tomorrow? [23:53] <genii> toan__: Traditionally around or just after 4pm GMT [23:53] <toan__> ubottu, och, you're smart, and know what you're talking about [23:54] <toan__> thanks guys; i think i can wait to get the official version [23:59] <toan__> is there a feature in kde to hide an app (like when the user clicks on close, the WM stop all cpu processing and hide the app forever)?

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.248305

2015-04-22-#snappy

[00:04] <jdstrand> we should probably just document how to use the oem config bits and remove hw-assign [00:11] <asac> jdstrand: so for me hw-assign is about drafting rules for development [00:11] <asac> you do hw-assign app /dev/null [00:11] <asac> this creates a rule with path=/dev/null :) [00:12] <jdstrand> that was how I saw it too [00:12] <jdstrand> yes, that used to work [00:12] <jdstrand> now with the cgroups and launcher, it doesn't [00:12] <asac> you could also do hw-assign --kernel=ttyS* --with-tag=... [00:12] <asac> this will just create the same rules we havae [00:12] <asac> just "runtime rules [00:12] <asac> :" [00:12] <asac> once you are happy you can dumb them and copy them into your oem config :) [00:12] <jdstrand> right, we'd need to define the cli experience for that [00:12] <asac> jdstrand: sure i am saying this would be mapped into that [00:12] <asac> udev engine [00:13] * jdstrand nods [00:13] <jdstrand> right, if we didn't remove hw-assign, we would have to integrate it [00:13] <jdstrand> the trello card currently says update it for cgroups [00:13] <asac> ack [00:14] <asac> think that can be SRU'd the advanced CLI is then future [00:14] <jdstrand> yeah, that sounds fine [00:14] <asac> fine [00:14] <jdstrand> heh [00:18] <asac> jdstrand: so you say that apps have now zero device nodes? [00:18] <jdstrand> no, they have a few [00:18] <asac> wasnt there a default set of nodes that we wanted to assign [00:18] <asac> where can i find that? [00:18] <jdstrand> /dev/null, /dev/full, /dev/zero, etc [00:18] <asac> that list :) [00:18] <jdstrand> it is hardcoded in the launcher [00:18] <jdstrand> let me get the link [00:19] <jdstrand> asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/ubuntu-core-launcher/trunk/view/head:/src/main.c#L57 [00:23] <asac> jdstrand: ok, did you upload new -security? [00:24] <jdstrand> I am about to [00:24] <jdstrand> it will be a few minutes [00:26] <asac> hmm [00:26] <asac> so the go webserver does not start anymore [00:28] <jdstrand> asac: sudo grep DEN /var/log/syslog ; sudo sc-logresolve /var/log/syslog [00:28] <jdstrand> I can try here [00:29] <asac> Apr 22 00:24:44 localhost kernel: [ 6546.952744] audit: type=1326 audit(1429662284.103:45): auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0 ses=4294967295 pid=2682 comm="sed" exe="/bin/sed" sig=31 arch=c000003e syscall=137(statfs) compat=0 ip=0x7f9a1d0a4017 code=0x0 [00:29] <asac> jdstrand: statfs [00:29] <jdstrand> ah we added statvfs earlier [00:30] <jdstrand> I'll fix and see if there are any other stat* that we missed [00:30] <asac> jdstrand: so python xckd server also has no port open [00:30] <asac> root 1244 1 0 00:29 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/python3 /apps/xkcd-webserver.canonical/0.4/bin/xkcd-webserver [00:30] <asac> it is running though [00:31] <asac> or wait [00:31] <jdstrand> what does logresolve say about that? [00:31] <jdstrand> fyi, the final syscall list hasn't been uploaded yet. tyhicks and I have been reviewing it today [00:31] <asac> its fine [00:32] <asac> python works [00:32] <asac> just didnt have right port forward [00:32] <asac> and was to stupid for lsof [00:32] <jdstrand> which is what I am preparing now. it changes some things around wrt to the networking bits that could have blocked it, but the new upload won't block it [00:32] <jdstrand> ok, good [00:32] <asac> its odd [00:32] <asac> lsof doesnt have a hit on 80\ [00:32] <asac> e.g. no hit on liten [00:32] <asac> LISTEN [00:33] <asac> oha [00:33] <asac> i dont see the LISTEN ports as normal user [00:33] <asac> guess thats a feature? [00:33] <asac> as root i see it [00:33] <jdstrand> that is normal [00:34] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10864024/ [00:34] <jdstrand> yeah [00:34] <jdstrand> I don't know why otoh, but that is consistent with my experience [00:36] <asac> jdstrand: its not on my normal desktop :) [00:36] <asac> maybe admin group [00:36] <asac> good [00:36] <asac> jdstrand: added statfs and fstatfs to seccomp [00:36] <asac> and now go is running [00:37] <jdstrand> cool [00:38] <asac> slangasek: is there a new image supposed to happen now? [00:38] <asac> iirc it should be about time :) [00:39] <asac> jdstrand: not sure if fstatfs is needed, but saw fstatvfs so thought it makes sense [00:39] <slangasek> asac: next one fires off in 16 minutes [00:39] <asac> jk [00:39] <asac> k [00:40] <jdstrand> asac: it does, there are also statfs64 and fstatfs64 that I am adding [00:40] <asac> right [00:41] <jdstrand> I'm also downloading the latest linux-libc-dev to see if we are missing anything else [00:44] <jdstrand> interesting, a new syscall 'switch_endian' [00:46] <asac> heh [00:46] <asac> guess docker might want to use that later [00:46] <jdstrand> it is something for powerpc [00:46] <asac> sure [00:50] <asac> jdstrand: so i am lost currently how our mir etc. framework can easily be tested without hw-assign [00:50] <jdstrand> asac: it is probably also broken under the launcher [00:51] <asac> jdstrand: you mean if you assign the right devnodes it still doesnt work? [00:51] <jdstrand> because aiui, it uses a hadn-crafted policy [00:51] <asac> jdstrand: well, there are two things... a) policy and b) access to dri devnodes [00:52] <asac> do you know what the policy hacks look like? [00:52] <jdstrand> hw-assign does nothing with udev atm (hence the trello card). the launcher looks at udev to add devices to the cgroups [00:52] <asac> right [00:52] <jdstrand> it may not. I have not seen the branch [00:52] <asac> but we need some cli so folks can test mir [00:52] <asac> without having to put togehter a full appliance [00:52] <asac> jdstrand: where do we put the udev rules? [00:53] <asac> /lib/udev/rules.d/80-snappy-assign.rules [00:53] <jdstrand> but if they use hw-assign, it is broken cause hw-assign and udev don't do anything. if it uses hand-crafted policy, it is broken because nothing tells the launcher to add the devices to the cgroups [00:53] <asac> sure i get that [00:53] <asac> saying that hw-assign should just add new udev rules :) [00:53] <asac> lol [00:53] <jdstrand> yes, it should :) [00:54] <jdstrand> hence the aforementioned trello card :) [00:54] <jdstrand> hehe [00:54] <asac> so [00:54] <jdstrand> anyway, yeah [00:54] <asac> what does a udev rule look like? [00:54] <asac> that just matches the path? [00:55] <jdstrand> so, that is going to be in snappy somewhere [00:55] <jdstrand> I see that http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/ubuntu-core-launcher/trunk/view/head:/src/snappy-app-dev is a script to add files to the cgroups [00:56] <asac> https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy-hub/snappy-examples-oem-hardware-snap [00:56] <jdstrand> hw-access could call out to that [00:56] <jdstrand> but, I think that is being removed (no matter, the same functionality could be added to hw-assign [00:57] <asac> well hwassign should add the proper rules imo [00:57] <jdstrand> if hw-assign is going to be persitent, use, it should add the udev rules [00:57] <jdstrand> s/use/yes/ [00:58] <jdstrand> it is probably pretty easy to add come to think of it-- all of it is already in snappy [00:58] <asac> hmm [00:58] <asac> so an oem snap can ship binaries? [00:58] <asac> wow [00:59] <jdstrand> I was not aware of that either [00:59] * jdstrand jots that down to ask about later [01:00] <asac> sergiusens: where are our oem snap sources [01:00] <asac> i dont see them in ~snappy-dev [01:11] <asac> jdstrand: ok somethign worrying: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10864146/ [01:11] <asac> hello-world.jdstrand failed to install: exec: "sc-filtergen": executable file not found in $PATH [01:12] <jdstrand> indeed [01:12] <jdstrand> that looks similar to the fs issues I keep talking about [01:12] <asac> ? [01:12] <jdstrand> what does dmesg say? [01:13] <asac> jdstrand: thats when running udf [01:13] <jdstrand> udf [01:13] <asac> dmesg doesnt say much [01:13] <asac> [10770.939947] systemd-udevd[10485]: failed to execute '/tmp/test.sh' '/tmp/test.sh': No such file or directory [01:13] <asac> :) [01:13] <asac> not sure what that is [01:13] <jdstrand> I guess you need to have ubuntu-core-security-utils on your host [01:14] <jdstrand> I'm not sure where you are seeing that [01:14] <jdstrand> on the host or in the guest? [01:14] <asac> hmm. thats not in the ppa it seems [01:14] <asac> jdstrand: on the host [01:14] <asac> when running udf [01:14] <jdstrand> ubuntu-core-security-utils is a part of ubuntu-core-security [01:14] <asac> to produce an image with stuff preinstalled [01:14] <jdstrand> I see [01:15] <jdstrand> so, you should be able to install ubuntu-core-security-utils from vivid [01:15] <asac> i am on trusty though [01:15] <asac> so this has to go into tools ppa's [01:15] <asac> for all supported things [01:15] <asac> and dependency need adding [01:15] <jdstrand> sergiusens: ^ [01:16] <asac> do we need to run this stuff? [01:16] <jdstrand> I've been a little surprised how much need to be on the host for udf [01:16] <asac> i mean those sc-... commands? [01:16] <jdstrand> I don't know [01:16] <asac> jdstrand: i think udf just runs snappy tool [01:16] <jdstrand> I guess it is preinstalling the snap via the host tools [01:16] <asac> right [01:16] <asac> but the apparmor stuff is done on first boot [01:16] <asac> this one should be done similar i gues [01:16] <jdstrand> it seems it would be much safer to use the tools in the image [01:16] <asac> s?? [01:16] <asac> no? [01:16] <asac> well [01:16] <jdstrand> I agree [01:17] <asac> i think its wrong [01:17] <jdstrand> but, we don't have the systemd unit file to do that yet [01:17] <asac> to do what? [01:17] <jdstrand> which was one of the things I mentioned earlier [01:17] <asac> i think appamor is run on first boot, no? [01:17] <jdstrand> apparmor is run on every boot [01:17] <jdstrand> on first boot it will notice that there isn't policy for the snaps [01:18] <asac> hmm. i mean the stuff that you run when package gets installled [01:18] <asac> okk [01:18] <jdstrand> and it will call aa-clickhook and everything is fine. niext time, the policy won't have to be regenerated [01:18] <asac> shouldnt sc do all the same? [01:18] <asac> i thought we would have same semantics [01:18] <jdstrand> seccomp doesn't have that [01:18] <jdstrand> click had that nice quality [01:18] <jdstrand> so we have to reimplement it for seccomp and then again for apparmor when it moves away from click [01:19] <jdstrand> this morning I was talking about updating policy via a unit if the seccomp policy changed [01:19] <jdstrand> that unit would solve this problem too [01:20] <jdstrand> asac: sc and aa should have the same semantics. aa is still implemented as a hook tool. sc is not. aa will be made to not once we clean it up in 15.10 [01:21] <asac> yes, but what i thought you said was that we would follow same approach for sc [01:21] <asac> anyway [01:21] <asac> so now we have to add unit? [01:21] <asac> and figure how to get rid of sc invocation in snappy install? [01:22] <jdstrand> what I said was that we would implement the new approach so we only have one thing to migrate when we drop the click methodology [01:22] <jdstrand> sc is new approach [01:22] <jdstrand> aa is old [01:22] <jdstrand> you still need sc invocation on snappy install so that the policy is in place when a service or binary is started prior to reboot [01:23] <asac> so now we have two approaches... in future never do two approaches [01:23] <asac> always one and then move both over [01:23] <asac> so we need unit [01:23] <asac> and special case in snappy to not run anything if its on host tool [01:23] <asac> not sure how to do that [01:24] <asac> sergiusens: any idea? [01:24] <jdstrand> asac: well, you say the two approaches thing. the reality is that it would have taken as much time to do the old approach for sc as the new, and it seemed silly to do the old only two weeks later to undo it [01:25] <asac> i know, but the new approach makes things more complex [01:25] <asac> so we should have done that [01:25] <jdstrand> not really [01:25] <jdstrand> there is a unit for apparmor [01:25] <jdstrand> it is just a different unit [01:25] <asac> hmm [01:25] <asac> anyway, what needs doing now? [01:25] <asac> we need to fix this for sure somehow [01:25] <jdstrand> I don't think this two approaches thing is something to worry about [01:26] <jdstrand> I will implement the unit as I said I would this morning [01:26] <asac> ok [01:26] <asac> and how to fix snappy tool? [01:26] <jdstrand> I helped with the launcher all day today [01:26] <asac> right [01:26] <jdstrand> that we need serguisens on [01:26] <asac> sergiusens: see above, we need the snappy install not call sc- stuff if run through udf [01:26] <asac> e.g. on host [01:26] <asac> and defer that to the first boot/unit [01:27] <jdstrand> maybe it is as simple as unpacking and not running the tools if doing a preinstall [01:27] <jdstrand> right [01:27] <asac> i dont think they will like just unpacking [01:27] <asac> they were super happy that snappy install was finally able to run on host tool [01:27] <asac> cross [01:27] <jdstrand> that's fine-- just saying, whatever doesn't need the tools [01:27] <asac> i think it does logic [01:27] <asac> the sc tools yes [01:28] <jdstrand> that didn't come out right [01:28] <asac> so we dont want to run the sc- tools if on host [01:28] <asac> if cross [01:28] <asac> not sure how we do the decision on appamor [01:28] <jdstrand> yes, do everything except run these bits. that said, these bits could run on the host-- they are not complicated tools [01:28] <asac> but we run them on first boot anyway [01:28] <asac> i dont want to add more stuff to tools ppa really [01:29] <asac> think that starts to become nasty [01:29] <asac> need to be tested and done for trusty etc. [01:29] <jdstrand> I was more talking about unblocking you now [01:29] <asac> i am not blocked. but tomorrow we have to get things together [01:30] <asac> so we should do it right right away [01:30] <jdstrand> ok, 15.04.7 uploaded to image ppa and archive [01:30] <asac> yep saw that [01:30] <jdstrand> go-example-webserver wrks [01:30] <asac> thx [01:30] <asac> great [01:30] <asac> check 1 :) [01:32] <jdstrand> I'll work on the unit tomorrow. that will give me insight as to what needs to happen with apparmor when we switch it to the new [01:32] <asac> jdstrand: generateSeccompPolicy [01:32] <asac> is that the whole function to kill? [01:32] <asac> on cross? [01:33] <jdstrand> let me check [01:34] <asac> is the unit difficult? [01:34] <jdstrand> addOneSecurityPolicy() can exit early if run under udf [01:34] <jdstrand> it shouldn't be [01:35] <asac> addOne [01:35] <asac> isnt matching [01:35] <jdstrand> that is in snappy/click.go [01:35] <jdstrand> in trunk [01:35] <asac> ah [01:37] <jdstrand> hmm [01:37] <jdstrand> no, it's ok [01:37] <jdstrand> I thought namespaces might trip me up, but it won't [01:38] <asac> jdstrand: is there a script you can give us to run after boot so we can test this in the morning? [01:39] <jdstrand> that is what I need to write [01:40] <asac> jdstrand: you say we can run those tools on host? [01:40] <asac> to shortcut? [01:40] <jdstrand> I don't see why not [01:40] <jdstrand> I installed several images today with udf [01:40] <jdstrand> I have ubuntu-core-security-utils installed [01:41] <asac> jdstrand: did you try snaps with built-in? [01:41] <asac> normal images work [01:41] <jdstrand> I did not [01:41] <asac> it just busts if we have built-in stuff [01:41] <jdstrand> I don't know how to do that [01:42] <asac> jdstrand: run udf with --oem ./... [01:42] <asac> and use http://people.canonical.com/~asac/tmp/generic-amd64_1.1_all.snap [01:42] <asac> locally [01:42] <asac> udf ... --developer-mode ... --oem ./generic-amd64_1.1_all.snap [01:42] <asac> that one tries to install hello-world.jdstrand [01:43] <asac> sudo ubuntu-device-flash core rolling --developer-mode --channel edge --oem ./oem-hardware-assign_1.0_all.snap --enable-ssh -o outputamd64.img [01:43] <asac> jdstrand: that command [01:43] <asac> give it a spin [01:45] <jdstrand> just grab fyi, I just installed ubuntu-core-security-utils and ubuntu-core-security-seccomp from the image ppa and python3-yaml from the archive in a trusty vm fine [01:45] * jdstrand adjusts the deps for ubuntu-core-security-utils [01:46] <jdstrand> curious why ${python3:Depends} didn't do it for me [01:49] <jdstrand> ./oem-hardware-assign_1.0_all.snap failed to install: snappy package not found [01:50] <jdstrand> I don't know where that is [01:50] <asac> jdstrand: sorry wrong name [01:50] <asac> uuse the one [01:50] <asac> you downloaded [01:50] <asac> ./generic-amd64_1.1_all.snap [01:50] <asac> not ./oem-hardware-assign_1.0_all.snap [01:50] <asac> sudo ubuntu-device-flash core rolling --developer-mode --channel edge --oem ./generic-amd64_1.1_all.snap --enable-ssh -o outputamd64.img [01:50] <jdstrand> oh right, duh [01:50] <asac> heh [01:54] <jdstrand> asac: it failed in some other manner, but it seems like it probably got past sc-filtergen [01:54] <jdstrand> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10864267/ [01:54] <asac> jdstrand: thats probasbly becauuse your system is busted [01:54] <asac> reboot [01:55] <asac> jdstrand: wait [01:55] <asac> jdstrand: so remember that udf does not use a chroot anymore afaik [01:55] <asac> its just run on host with path etc. [01:55] <asac> not sure what your tools are doing [01:55] <asac> if you are sure your system is still alive [01:55] <asac> then reboot :) [01:55] <jdstrand> I was running sbuild at the time. it had a problem related to unmounting [01:56] <asac> good [01:56] <jdstrand> it might've been the systemd shared mount space stuff [01:56] <asac> ok how does it look now? [01:56] * jdstrand is trying again [01:57] <jdstrand> it reported breaking differently, but still a umount issue [01:57] <asac> i would suggest to reboot [01:57] <jdstrand> I can reboot, but it will be a minute [01:57] <asac> sure, better than giving up :) [01:57] * jdstrand has a lot of context atm [01:58] <jdstrand> you could also try installing the tools I mentioned on trusty [01:59] <asac> this will mess my system a lot [01:59] <asac> but ok [01:59] <asac> utils? [02:00] <jdstrand> ubuntu-core-security-utils ubuntu-core-security-seccomp from the ppa [02:00] <jdstrand> you will also need python3-yaml [02:00] <jdstrand> and seccomp [02:00] <jdstrand> that should be it [02:01] <asac> yay [02:01] * jdstrand uploads 15.04.8 to add Depends on python3-yaml [02:01] <asac> it worked :) [02:01] <jdstrand> good! [02:04] <asac> too bad [02:04] <asac> hw assign is broken anyway [02:05] <asac> jdstrand: sent mail [02:06] <asac> i drop off [02:06] <jdstrand> ok, good night [02:06] <jdstrand> jeex it must be late there [02:07] <jdstrand> jeez* [02:10] <asac> i think autopilot jsut udpated :) [02:10] <asac> yay [02:10] <asac> it atuomatically rebooted [02:11] <asac> nice [02:11] <asac> good to end day like that :) [02:11] <asac> lol [02:11] <asac> cu in a bit [02:12] <jdstrand> hehe [02:12] <jdstrand> nice :) [05:12] <kickinz1> o/ [07:11] <dholbach> good morning [08:55] <dholbach> dpm, davidcalle will work on refinements for the raspi bits, the channels and the start page - those are going to be most important pieces, later on we might look into importing stuff like you did [08:55] <dholbach> dpm, great work [08:56] <davidcalle> dholbach, +1 [08:57] <dholbach> davidcalle, sorry [08:57] <dholbach> I meant to say... [08:57] <dholbach> "davidcalle and I" [08:57] * dholbach needs another coffee :) [08:58] <plorenz> hi, i'm running snappy ubuntu on my raspberry pi 2 (by lool) and for some reason, the system only shows 116 MB of RAM available although it should be 1 GB of RAM. i guess it's a problem with GPU memory split, but i can't find a setting. can anybody help me please? [08:58] <davidcalle> dholbach ;) [09:03] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Earth Day! :-D [09:10] <dpm> dholbach, ack, thanks! [09:12] <dholbach> davidcalle, I updated https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/channels/ - do you feel it's clearer in the regard we discussed earlier? [09:13] <dholbach> davidcalle, also... I'm considering extending the image at the bottom to explain the transition from alpha to beta, etc - wdyt? [09:39] <davidcalle> dholbach, not sure if the image needs to be extended. The table on top looks good, I still think you should add a wget and a udf examples under it, to make it clear what to do with this channel/release combination. [09:39] <davidcalle> dholbach, the page works well for me, especially with the table called a cheatsheet [09:41] <dholbach> davidcalle, ah yes, that's right - I'll add an example, but I'm not sure about wget/udf instructions - wouldn't we have to update the instructions as well whenever thing change again or images get updated? [09:44] <davidcalle> dholbach, that's true, I forgot udf was a moving target. But for wget, it would be mostly to show off how the path is composed (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/15.04/edge/ubuntu-15.04-snappy-armhf-bbb.img.xz), to show people they can compose the img path based on what they need. [09:45] <dholbach> that makes sense [09:46] <dholbach> unfortunately we don't have http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/rolling/ yet [09:46] <davidcalle> dholbach, implementation detail :p [09:46] <dholbach> all right, I'll figure it out, thanks for the feedback [09:47] <sergiusens> dholbach: davidcalle we have finalized u-d-f, it won't be moving again except for bug fixes [09:47] <davidcalle> dholbach, I'd like to say something like "if it's documented, it needs to exist ASAP" ;-) [09:48] <davidcalle> sergiusens, oh cool :) [09:55] <dholbach> davidcalle, ok, updated - thanks again [10:06] <dholbach> davidcalle, are you working on the start page now? [10:30] <dholbach> davidcalle, I added channel info for the kvm case - does it look all right to you? do you think it helps like that? [10:46] <davidcalle> dholbach, I'm starting now. It looks right to me, so these are the final paths? edge at cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-snappy and stable, beta, rc at releases.ubuntu.com? [10:51] <davidcalle> dholbach, also, we talked about this earlier, but I'm not sure we had a definitive answer : are cloud images going to follow the naming scheme for release? (or should we just use the stable image names they provide tomorrow?) [10:52] <davidcalle> dholbach, don't mind the lat question, I've found what I'm looking for. [10:52] <davidcalle> last* [11:24] <yngves> Wondering if something is broken in the new Docker 1.6 package? I keep getting "aa-exec: ERROR: profile 'docker_docker_1.6.0.002' does not exist" when invoking Docker. [11:33] <dholbach> davidcalle, I'll ping the cloud guys and point them to the page - AFAIK those are the final paths, yes [11:34] <davidcalle> dholbach, thanks [11:34] <dholbach> a review with Steve and Alex later on should let us know if we're on the right track or not :) [11:40] * davidcalle starts getting confused about the naming scheme again. [11:43] <asac> ppisati: hey, how is the cape going? [11:46] <dholbach> davidcalle, in the case of OVA, do you think we should explain the URL scheme - or just add the box with the links? [11:46] <davidcalle> dholbach, I've done both [11:47] <dholbach> ok... I personally would've thought that the box would be enough, but maybe just leave it in there and we talk about it later on together :) [11:50] <davidcalle> dholbach, the scheme of cloud-images is a bit different [11:52] <dholbach> oh! did you find out how it works there? [11:53] <ppisati> asac: i've got the original image to work, but once i compile the TI kernel, it doesn't boot on my board [11:54] <ppisati> yesterday i spent the entire day doing test for the release [11:54] <asac> ppisati: why do we need TI kernel? [11:54] <asac> if we have it working with our generic one? [11:54] <asac> ok have to go for lunch [11:54] <asac> bbiab [11:55] <ppisati> asac: because first you get a piece of hw working with the code that supports it [11:55] <ppisati> asac: then you derive a delta from it etc [11:56] <davidcalle> dholbach, I think so [12:11] <dholbach> davidcalle, I added a box like this to the bbb docs too [12:11] <dholbach> davidcalle, it gets placed in the wrong area though [12:12] <dholbach> davidcalle, do you have an idea how to fix it? [12:15] <davidcalle> dholbach, I'm fixing [12:16] <dholbach> davidcalle, if we ever do a sprint together, you should do a workshop on how to fix stuff like that :-) [12:17] <dholbach> I'd make sure to get a seat in the first row! [12:19] <davidcalle> dholbach, why not :) Fixed. I'm confused by the fact that if you download both images (15.04/stable and 15.04/edge), you have no way to differentiate the files by their names. [12:20] <dholbach> davidcalle, we should note this down [12:23] <davidcalle> dholbach, I've also left a comment on the card regarding the other tasks. [12:23] <dholbach> thanks [12:24] <dholbach> davidcalle, do you feel we're done with the page now, barring any changes we might need to do after a meeting with Alex and Steve and potentially the cloud guys? [12:24] <davidcalle> dholbach, yep [12:24] <dholbach> cool [12:24] * dholbach hugs davidcalle [12:24] <dholbach> good work [12:26] <davidcalle> dholbach, same :) [12:32] <dholbach> asac, slangasek: whenever you have time, davidcalle and I would review https://developer.ubuntu.com/snappy/start/ and https://developer.ubuntu.com/snappy/guides/channels with you [12:36] <dholbach> asac, mvo, sergiusens: I'm still not quite sure which ppa to recommend? right now there's 'beta', 'tools', 'tools-proposed' (and probably unrelated: 'image') [12:36] <dholbach> asac, mvo, sergiusens: what kind of changes do you anticipate to land in which of the PPAs [12:36] <dholbach> I'm still not sure how to explain the four PPAs to users [12:37] <sergiusens> dholbach: tools has latest and greatest and always breaks, beta is for users; but I want to get rid of that as it's too confusing [12:38] <dholbach> sergiusens, ok... so I just recommends 'beta' for nowß? [12:38] <plorenz> sergiusens: do you know how i can increase my available ram with snappy on the raspberry pi 2? [12:39] <sergiusens> dholbach: yes [12:39] <sergiusens> plorenz: no [12:42] <dholbach> thanks sergiusens! [13:09] <dholbach> can somebody review and land https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/snappy/markdown-doc-fixes/+merge/257080? [13:19] <sergiusens> dholbach: done [13:19] <asac> pitti: is there an easy way on the cli to query for devices that got assigned to the app? [13:19] <asac> pitti: from the app point of view? [13:19] <asac> udev query [13:19] <sergiusens> dholbach: would be nice to use the ```[code] annotation eventually :-) [13:20] <dholbach> sergiusens, did you see r416 on the MP as well? I pushed another commit [13:20] <dholbach> sergiusens, I've never seen any ```[code] notation [13:23] <dholbach> thanks Chipaca [13:23] <sergiusens> dholbach: github markdown being the engine I refer to [13:23] <dholbach> ah ok [13:24] <sergiusens> dholbach: https://help.github.com/articles/github-flavored-markdown/#syntax-highlighting [13:24] <dholbach> cool [13:24] <dholbach> I hope one day a bunch of people get together and figure out one markdown standard to rule them all [13:24] <sergiusens> dholbach: that's easy; github :-P [13:24] <dholbach> right [13:25] <sergiusens> standards are hard in an ever moving fast paced world [13:33] <pitti> asac: yes, cat /sys/fs/cgroup/snappy.appname*/devices.list [13:33] <pitti> asac: this gives you the real actual ACL [13:33] <pitti> asac: you can also get a list of devices tagged for the app with udevadm [13:34] <pitti> asac: udevadm trigger --verbose --dry-run --tag-match=snappy-assign --property-match=SNAPPY_APP=$APPNAME [13:41] <asac> pitti: so jdstrand is a bit unhappy to allow apps to ask for what they can talk to this way [13:42] <asac> i think its super useful for some app to say "give me all the devs that are of type X and that i am allowed to use" [13:42] <asac> pitti: so trigger is doing the query? [13:42] <pitti> asac: well, so far that's coming from OEM.yaml, so not from the app? [13:42] <asac> pitti: but an app needs too know what it can talk to [13:42] <asac> at best using the closest to current practices [13:42] <pitti> asac: why shouldn't we allow the apps to query for what they can access? either by devices.list or udev? [13:43] <pitti> they can just try and open everything in /dev/ after all [13:43] <asac> pitti: jdstrand doesnt like that this leaks info about what is installed [13:43] <asac> i think its a bug that we can address later :) [13:43] <asac> but we should allow apps to query udev [13:43] <pitti> asac: oh, you mean the udevadm? [13:43] <asac> pitti: not sure [13:43] <dholbach> https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/snappy/more-markdown-fixes/+merge/257094 [13:43] <pitti> asac: oh, we need to [13:43] <jdstrand> pitti: I'm fine with apps trying to open things in /dev [13:43] <pitti> asac: but right now the apps aren't confied at all [13:44] <asac> pitti: only thing i know is that i want to tell a story on how an app that we assigned access to [13:44] <asac> can find the usb devices that it can now poke [13:44] <jdstrand> pitti: I'm less fine about an app querying udev and being able to see all the tags, and therefore, enumerate installed apps on the system [13:44] <pitti> asac: that udevadm on the shell or libudev in C should be fairly adequate for that query [13:44] <asac> right [13:44] <asac> pitti: but jdstrand wants to take powers away from us to not allow to use libudev :P [13:45] <asac> which i think is not good for real life :P [13:45] <pitti> well, not querying sysfs at all is a no-go IMHO [13:45] <asac> right :) [13:45] <asac> i agree!! [13:45] <asac> so i think for me this is a must [13:45] <pitti> so you could at most restrict the access there [13:45] <asac> and we need to figure later how to make things even better [13:45] <asac> right [13:45] <asac> we can try to make udev smarter later [13:45] <jdstrand> well hold on [13:45] <asac> to hide stuff :) [13:45] <pitti> but quite frankly, this is by faaaaaar not the most problem we are having :) [13:45] <pitti> 'impotant' [13:46] <jdstrand> sysfs is another conversation [13:46] * ogra_ thought you were planning something like the trust-store we have on the phone [13:46] <asac> its the same kinda [13:46] <asac> ogra_: thats a higher level [13:46] <ogra_> why [13:46] <pitti> well, libudev just queries /sys and /run/udev/ [13:46] <asac> no time to argue [13:46] <ogra_> jus integrate something like that with udev [13:46] * jdstrand notes that I am not taking powers away from using libudev. apps don't currently have it. I am trying to understand what the access gives [13:47] <asac> jdstrand: apps on normal ubuntu have it [13:47] <jdstrand> asac: apps on touch do not [13:47] <pitti> libudev itself is just conveience; you can't do anything with it that you can't already do with /sys and /run/udev/ [13:47] <asac> right, but they dont want to poke devices :) [13:47] <pitti> so we need to restrict /run/udev/ if we want to restrict app access [13:47] <jdstrand> if we allow this and don't fix udev to restrict the access, then on touch we regress [13:47] <asac> we should restrict it [13:47] <asac> later [13:47] <asac> smart [13:47] <pitti> that might break some apps, but might be appropriate [13:47] <asac> not sure how [13:47] <asac> is there a way we can restrict it? [13:48] <ogra_> polkit ? [13:48] <ogra_> via udev-acl [13:48] <asac> e.g. is /run/udev/ content compatible with apparmor? [13:48] <jdstrand> pitti: is it fair to say that if I use udevadm trigger --verbose --dry-run --tag-match=snappy-assign --property-match=SNAPPY_APP=hellow-world.sideload under confinement I can see what read only access is required? [13:49] <asac> jdstrand: you need read access to /sys and to /run/udev i think [13:49] <jdstrand> pitti: is there a udev daemon? [13:49] <asac> yeah [13:49] <asac> i think there is and that could later mediate [13:49] <jdstrand> pitti: as in, udevadm talks to a daemon? [13:49] <asac> not sure if libudev is going through that, but could be! [13:49] <pitti> jdstrand: there is udevd, but udevadm query and libudev don't talk to it [13:50] <pitti> as I said, it's just reading /sys and /run/udev (for the properties and tags) [13:50] <asac> ah bummer :) [13:50] <asac> jdstrand: yeah so short term we woudl have to open access for those friends [13:50] <asac> to those directories [13:50] <asac> and then later see how to make libudev go through mediation or make /run/udev so that the app info can be confined [13:50] <pitti> we also don't yet start apps under its own pid namespace, so presumably apps can already see what other apps are running? [13:51] <jdstrand> well, in the future to resrict this, we would want to have a tool that talks to an out of process helper, perhaps udevd, then udevd asks libapparmor for the label of the client, then filters the query results to be only those for the app [13:51] <ogra_> and "those friends" would be aware that their apps break at some point ? [13:51] <jdstrand> then we remove access to /run/udev, etc [13:51] <pitti> again, there is *no* point in restricting libudev as such [13:51] <dholbach> Chipaca, sergiusens: any idea why https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/snappy/more-markdown-fixes/+merge/257094 might be unhappy? [13:51] <asac> jdstrand: can you do a find on /run/udev after tagging something? [13:51] <asac> jdstrand: i think its a simple pattern match to hide that [13:52] <asac> i think the app name is really in the tagname on disk [13:52] <jdstrand> pitti: we have restricted access in /proc, but there are some leaks there that we plan to address. I'm concerned about adding more and more stuff that leaks info about the system. if we understand what needs to be done, that is fine [13:53] <asac> right [13:53] <asac> but we have to take a holistic look at that later :P [13:53] <pitti> "private process namespace" :) [13:53] <ogra_> i dont really get that ... there is such a mechanism via polkit and udev--acl already, why dont we use it ? [13:54] <pitti> now that we have a launcher, we can easily add that, and private /tmp and such [13:54] <asac> thats too high level. we work on primitives to hard wire access here [13:54] <jdstrand> we can't use polkit because no one can do the authorization [13:54] <pitti> ogra_: that doesn't restrict visibility [13:54] <asac> polkit or such can be built on top [13:54] <ogra_> pitti, thats indeed true, but access ... [13:54] <pitti> also, it's logind plus ACLs [13:54] <ogra_> ah, right, i'm a bit behind :) [13:54] <pitti> ogra_: access restriction is already in the lanucher nw [13:54] <pitti> now [13:54] <sergiusens> dholbach: hmm, outage or godeps changed [13:54] <pitti> that's what mvo and I worked on last week [13:54] <ogra_> ok [13:55] <ogra_> the launcher = ubuntu-app-launch ? [13:55] <pitti> yes [13:55] <ogra_> ro did you re-implement that [13:55] <ogra_> awesome :) [13:56] <jdstrand> ogra_: the snappy launcher is ubuntu-core-launcher. how this will work on touch is less clear, but either ubuntu-core-launcher is updated to do UAL-y things, or the other way around [13:57] <ogra_> ah, so it is a separate thing ... k [13:57] <jdstrand> for now [14:01] <jdstrand> pitti, asac: ftr, right this second, we don't leak anything in /proc on snappy (we do on touch, but there is a bug on that). udevadm will change that, but it sounds like that is what is required, so I'll document all this [14:02] <asac> jdstrand: given that we have to revisit all this holistically anyway for next releases i really think its fine to have leak about apps that have hw assigned for the time being. [14:02] <asac> jdstrand: we could in future use a crypto token for assign that is only known to the core system itself and the app? [14:03] <asac> so instead of SNAPPY_APP:=.... [14:03] <jdstrand> fyi, udevadm doesn't work under the launcher [14:04] <jdstrand> I'd prefer to wait on designing how to fix it for when we are interested in fixing it. way to much to do today [14:05] <jdstrand> pitti: do you know why udevadm would fail under our cgroups implementation? [14:06] <pitti> jdstrand: no, it shouldn't have anythign to do with the devices cgroup; when I tried mvo's MP even sudo worked there [14:06] <pitti> jdstrand: how does it fail? [14:06] <jdstrand> I get apparmor denials under aa-exec but nothing under the launcher other than the app saying: udevadm: Operation not permitted [14:06] <pitti> apparmor? syscalls failing? (strace) [14:06] <pitti> sorry, deeply in release prep/testing mode right now [14:06] <jdstrand> no, none of that. I'll keep poking [14:06] <davidcalle> dholbach, back o/ [14:07] <pitti> jdstrand: ok, so stracing it might be insightful? [14:07] <asac> pitti: just last thing: to query on cli i would use trigger? [14:07] <asac> or adm? [14:08] <asac> err ignore [14:08] <pitti> asac: trigger --dry-run is nice for getting a list of devices that have certain names/attributes/properties/tags [14:08] <dholbach> davidcalle, I looked into importing the snappy internal docs and fixed a few bits in the markup to make it easier for us to import it "as is" [14:08] <pitti> query is good for getting info about a particular dev [14:09] <pitti> asac: ^ [14:09] <asac> nice [14:09] <asac> thanks [14:09] <davidcalle> dholbach, yes, seen it, I'm starting on the meta one [14:09] <dholbach> davidcalle, looking at 'oem' now [14:10] <dholbach> davidcalle, one problem we're going to have is linking from files to each other [14:10] <dholbach> davidcalle, we could wrap dpm's instructions into a small python script [14:10] <davidcalle> dholbach, there are a lot of links? [14:10] <asac> jdstrand: https://pastebin.canonical.com/130117/ [14:10] <asac> those i am getting [14:10] <dholbach> ... which could replace a mention of "security.md" with a proper link to its location on the website [14:10] <dholbach> davidcalle, not too many [14:11] <asac> jdstrand: udevadm trigger --verbose --dry-run --tag-match=snappy-assign [14:11] <dpm> dholbach, yes, and feel free to improve it, I just wrote a few one-liners to make it simpler, but could be more elegant [14:11] <asac> jdstrand: maybe its working if you have the /dev as r ? [14:11] <davidcalle> dholbach, let's assume their path is guides/<name> [14:11] <davidcalle> dholbach, a script is fine too :) [14:11] <asac> jdstrand: yeah so /dev/** [14:11] <dholbach> davidcalle, to keep stuff in sync I just thought that it'd be nice if we had a self-contained script that won't grow into a chaotic monster (~50 lines) which would take an .md file from the branch and turn it into exactly what we need to paste into the text box of django cms [14:11] <asac> not just /dev/* [14:12] <dholbach> dpm, that was no criticism - thanks a lot for figuring stuff out so far already! :) [14:12] <davidcalle> dholbach, oh right, keeping stuff in sync after that. [14:12] <dholbach> yep [14:12] <davidcalle> dholbach, then absolutely :) [14:12] <dpm> dholbach, I didn't interpret it as criticism, just saying I'm not particularly proud of the one-liners :) [14:13] <dpm> but I did it between other things this morning, and I thought I'd put something together real quick [14:13] <dholbach> davidcalle, dpm: I'll put the oem article online, and could then look into writing such a script [14:13] <dpm> cool [14:13] <davidcalle> Ok [14:14] <dpm> dholbach, I noticed a few typos and markdown syntax errors on the config.md script that I fixed on the final HTML. I think the original docs might need some fixes. [14:14] <dholbach> asac, slangasek: davidcalle and I still around for a review of /snappy/start and /snappy/guides/channels - we have a meeting coming up in 45m though [14:14] <dholbach> dpm, https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy/snappy/changes :) [14:15] <dholbach> dpm, there might be more though [14:15] <dpm> dholbach, nice, good work :) [14:16] <jdstrand> pitti: it was an apparmor issue but there was no denial. kernel rate limiting may have been in effect [14:18] <davidcalle> dpm, dholbach, moving on to frameworks [14:27] <dholbach> https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/snappy/even-more-markdown-fixes/+merge/257112 [14:37] <sergiusens> mvo: want to remerge trunk on your branch? [14:37] <sergiusens> mvo: it conflicts with the packageYaml removal from the signature in oemHwUDRules you did in another branch [14:38] <dholbach> dpm, davidcalle: I'll mail the snappy lists to help out with a docs review for the release tomorrow and tell them to either respond on list or ping davidcalle and me on IRC - does that sound all right to you? [14:38] <dholbach> ... or file bugs on developer-ubuntu-com [14:38] <dholbach> maybe that's the best option [14:38] * dholbach reviews bug list [14:52] <mvo> sergiusens: I updated the branch, thanks again and also removed println() [14:55] <sergiusens> jdstrand: can you ack https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/snappy-add-apparmor-override/+merge/257076 ? [14:55] <sergiusens> you have needs info there [14:55] <jdstrand> I thought I did [14:56] <sergiusens> given we are so close to release I don't want to override [14:56] <jdstrand> ah, I was trying to test it. that is what I was working on when the meeting came [15:04] <dholbach> https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/snappy/even-more-markdown-fixes/+merge/257112 [15:05] <dholbach> oops [15:06] <Chipaca> dholbach: “ARM or X86 devices such as the Beaglebone Black” is probably unfortunate word order [15:06] <Chipaca> dholbach: or unfortunate lack of oxford comma, [15:06] <Chipaca> or something :) [15:06] * genii armors his X86 [15:09] <dholbach> Chipaca, good find - fixed, thanks! [15:09] <dholbach> we inherited quite a few docs, trying to get on top of things everywhere :) [15:10] <Chipaca> man, i had to use wdiff to see machanisms -> mechanisms in that diff [15:11] <dholbach> Chipaca, yeah, sorry - I always use bzr diff --using=wdiff for commits like that :) [15:11] <Chipaca> heh :) [15:11] <Chipaca> dholbach: updates on in `oem` package [15:12] <sergiusens> Chipaca: oh, I just commented the same [15:16] <dholbach> sergiusens, pushed a change to fix your comment [15:16] <Chipaca> dholbach: hmm [15:16] * Chipaca tries something [15:21] <Chipaca> dholbach: so, in pandoc, instead of ```yaml, you'd do ~~~ {.yaml} [15:21] <Chipaca> dholbach: you then need css to do the highlighting, but it's something [15:21] <Chipaca> dholbach: you can also use -B for the content before the body, and -A for after [15:21] <dholbach> oh nice [15:22] <dholbach> I'll take a look [15:24] <sergiusens> dholbach: Chipaca does pandoc have some form of syntax checker we can enable in ./run-checks? [15:24] <dholbach> Chipaca, do I need to close the ~~~ {.yaml} tag somehow? [15:24] <Chipaca> dholbach: yes, ~~~ on its own line [15:24] <dholbach> right [15:25] <Chipaca> dholbach: http://pandoc.org/README.html#extension-fenced_code_blocks [15:25] <Chipaca> it's actually 3 or more ~s [15:26] <Chipaca> sergiusens: i didn't think markdown had the idea of 'bad syntax' [15:26] <sergiusens> Chipaca: markdown itself, no; maybe pandoc does [15:26] <Chipaca> also, you can tell pandoc to use markdown_github [15:26] <Chipaca> which would probably make sergiusens wet himself [15:26] <sergiusens> oh neat [15:26] <Chipaca> so don't tell him that [15:26] <sergiusens> we should do that [15:26] <sergiusens> lol [15:26] <dholbach> haha [15:27] <sergiusens> it is the markdown style everyone uses [15:27] <dholbach> I'll leave this open for discussion for the team [15:27] <dholbach> I don't care too much [15:27] <dholbach> as long as we have something which spits out raw html I can paste into developer.u.c's djangocms, I'm happy [15:28] <sergiusens> dholbach: is it fully automated now? [15:28] <sergiusens> dholbach: or html that you copy paste? [15:28] <dholbach> the latter [15:28] <dholbach> automating this fully will be too much work right now [15:29] <sergiusens> dholbach: maybe adding a form to upload a raw html file will allow full automation [15:29] <sergiusens> oh [15:29] <sergiusens> I thought it wouldn't be too hard [15:29] <dholbach> the content right now lives in a database [15:29] <sergiusens> just a uri you can post to or put to change the resources [15:29] <sergiusens> and django would save it to the db [15:29] <dholbach> if you want access, then yes, you have a page where you can copy/paste [15:30] <dholbach> sergiusens, Chipaca: can somebody make a decision on if we want to use github markdown or something else? [15:30] <dholbach> I don't care too much [15:30] <dholbach> but it'd be good to decide this [15:31] <dholbach> maybe it'd also allow us to change the .rst doc to an .md doc [15:31] <Chipaca> whatever's the path of least work [15:31] <dholbach> AFAIR it was just tables which stopped it from using regular markdown [15:31] <dholbach> maybe tables work in github markdown? [15:31] <Chipaca> pandoc's take on github markdown might not be github markdown [15:31] <Chipaca> just to keep things clear [15:32] <dholbach> ok [15:32] <Chipaca> dholbach: i don't think we need to change anything more than the minimum to get things to look right on our website, now [15:32] <Chipaca> dholbach: next week we can talk grand designs [15:32] <dholbach> +1 [15:32] * dholbach moves on [15:32] <dholbach> :) [15:32] <dholbach> I'll file a bug on snappy [15:33] <sergiusens> dholbach: easy [15:33] <sergiusens> Chipaca: mvo jodh http://www.poll-maker.com/poll299911x1d4b4d87-11 [15:34] <Chipaca> hahahah [15:34] <Chipaca> sergiusens: that's sweet [15:34] <Chipaca> sergiusens: markdown_phpextra (PHP Markdown Extra) [15:34] <Chipaca> footnotes, pipe_tables, raw_html, markdown_attribute, fenced_code_blocks, definition_lists, intraword_underscores, header_attributes, abbreviations. [15:34] <Chipaca> markdown_github (Github-flavored Markdown) [15:34] <Chipaca> pipe_tables, raw_html, tex_math_single_backslash, fenced_code_blocks, auto_identifiers, ascii_identifiers, backtick_code_blocks, autolink_bare_uris, intraword_underscores, strikeout, hard_line_breaks [15:34] <Chipaca> markdown_mmd (MultiMarkdown) [15:34] <Chipaca> pipe_tables raw_html, markdown_attribute, link_attributes, raw_tex, tex_math_double_backslash, intraword_underscores, mmd_title_block, footnotes, definition_lists, all_symbols_escapable, implicit_header_references, auto_identifiers, mmd_header_identifiers [15:34] <Chipaca> markdown_strict (Mar [15:34] <Chipaca> ... [15:34] <Chipaca> :) [15:35] <sergiusens> Chipaca: mark down strict is nice [15:35] <sergiusens> I like strict [15:35] <Chipaca> no you don't [15:36] <Chipaca> :D [15:36] <mvo> sergiusens: haha [15:36] * Chipaca stops having fun with sergiusens [15:36] <mvo> I guess the fact that we talk markdown now means we can release, right? [15:36] <mvo> :P [15:36] <Chipaca> mvo: +1 [15:36] * mvo hugs dholbach, Chipaca, sergiusens [15:36] <sergiusens> Chipaca: it's bad tat we are having some fu and mvo is still crunching at it [15:37] * sergiusens hugs back [15:37] * Chipaca joins the hug party [15:37] <dholbach> hugs! :) [15:37] * dholbach hugs you all [15:37] * sergiusens wonders if it's beer'o clock already [15:37] <Chipaca> sergiusens: it is in germany! [15:38] <dholbach> asac, slangasek: are you going to have time to review the start and channels pages any time soon? [15:41] <mvo> Chipaca: hahaha, beerclock=[0-24] in germany [15:52] <Chipaca> mvo: that also :) but i meant it was after 5pm [16:00] <jdstrand> asac, pitti: fyi, I profiled 'udevadm trigger --verbose --dry-run --tag-match=snappy-assign --property-match=SNAPPY_APP=<appname>'. it requires this rule: '/run/udev/data/* r,'. This actually gives away far more info than what apps are installed [16:00] <jdstrand> asac, pitti: eg "The files in this directory reveal all kinds of information about the hardware, UUIDs of partitions, the MAC address of ethernet interfaces and more. This is enough information for a malicious snap to conduct data mining and identify individual systems and breaks our privacy model." [16:00] <jdstrand> this is bug #1447237 [16:04] <asac> dholbach: the image links would be nice to have them right on top [16:04] <asac> of the section [16:04] <asac> like in getting started on baeglebone black [16:04] <davidcalle> dholbach, hangout dropped for me [16:05] <asac> sergiusens: i assume avahi wont work unless you have webdm or did we move that to core system? [16:05] <jdstrand> asac: so, we've worked extremely hard on touch to not reveal things such as the mac address [16:07] <sergiusens> asac: no, it's not in core on request from high above [16:08] <asac> jdstrand: could we argue that only apps that get hw assign can read this? [16:08] <jdstrand> asac: so we have a couple of choices. accept the information disclosure, but have someone get on the restriction soon or don't allow reading /run/udev/data/*. Interestingly, if you call udevadm without -property-match=SNAPPY_APP=<appname>, you don't need /run/udev/data/* [16:08] <asac> jdstrand: in the end this would put the decision into the yard of the guy that makes the system [16:08] <asac> and touch could for instance just allow only their framework to access that [16:08] <asac> and they can still realize their model [16:09] <jdstrand> asac: yes, we can adjust mvo's branch to do that [16:09] <asac> jdstrand: would this make you feel more comfortable? [16:09] <jdstrand> it would [16:09] <jdstrand> I would downgrade the priority significantly [16:09] <asac> lets do that i guess... later we have to look how to make udev better [16:09] <asac> i think udev coul dhave different data directories [16:10] <asac> one with /snappy/ and one with /crazy/data/ [16:10] <asac> or wait [16:10] <asac> i think we could even restrict acces to the devices in there that the snapp has assigned? [16:10] <jdstrand> most hardware assigned things are frameworks and trusted. if a system builder preinstalls, that is also a form of trust (though different). a user that opts in is saying opting into this [16:10] <asac> jdstrand: right [16:10] <jdstrand> asac: I put ideas in the bug [16:11] <asac> yep [16:11] <asac> cool [16:11] <asac> lets do that [16:11] <asac> jdstrand: will the hw-assign cli work same way? i think its fine and maybe we even disable that in non-developer mode eventually [16:11] <jdstrand> asac: it will [16:12] <jdstrand> ok, I'll update the policy for the safe access and then talk to mvo about this one extra access [16:12] <jdstrand> that will be a very small addition [18:15] <fionnan> anyone getting this `profile 'docker_docker_1.6.0.0.002' error does not exist` on a fresh snappy install? https://bpaste.net/show/5fb0130cf91c [20:40] <yngves> fionnan: Yes, I do. [20:42] <yngves> fionnan: There definitely is no AppArmor policy of that name in the package. I hacked my way around it by changing the last line of /apps/bin/docker to read: aa-exec -p docker-default -- /apps/docker/1.6.0.002/bin/docker "$@" [20:42] <yngves> fionnan: A very ugly hack. Hope it gets fixed. [22:59] <fionnan> yngves: cheers!

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.267246

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-za

[04:31] <barrydk> Morning everyone [05:11] <Kilos> morning all, power off for the day soon so have a great dayand ill see you when it returns this avy [05:18] <Kilos> hi barrydk [05:23] <barrydk> hi Kilos [05:25] <magespawn> good morning [05:26] <Jacques_Stry> Morning all [05:26] <Kilos> hi magespawn [05:26] <Kilos> Jacques_Stry [05:26] <magespawn> hi Jacques_Stry [05:26] <magespawn> hi Kilos [05:27] <Kilos> power off in 30 mins [05:27] <Jacques_Stry> Hi magespawn [05:27] <Jacques_Stry> Hi Kilos [05:27] <Kilos> you guys are the greeter bots today [05:28] <Kilos> gonna be a looong day with no pc [05:28] <Jacques_Stry> :) [05:29] <barrydk> sal probeer as ek hier is [05:29] <Kilos> dankie [05:30] <barrydk> they say phase 5 load shedding is on the way. Eksdom is comming to blow our candels out [05:31] <Kilos> here they are working on the lines. putting underground to houses [05:32] <Kilos> so its the whole day off everytime [05:34] <Kilos> i forget who was learning python, here is another link http://python.p2pu.org/en/ [05:50] <Kilos> hi MaNI [05:51] <Kilos> wb jacques_ [05:51] <Kilos> stry nie vandag nie sien ek [05:51] <MaNI> hi [05:51] <jacques_> haha [05:52] <Kilos> ok i gotta go, cheers all [05:52] <Kilos> uh oh [05:52] <Kilos> have a great day [06:01] <magespawn> might be a good way to relax a bit, with no computer or electricity for a whole day [06:13] <Jacques_StrY> Sounds peacefull [06:14] <Jacques_StrY> peaceful* [06:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings [07:00] <inetpro> good mornings [07:33] <Jacques_StrY> Welcome back Kilos [07:33] <Kilos> ty Jacques_StrY they either forgot or are on strike [07:34] <Jacques_StrY> :) [07:34] <Kilos> i see in my mobilebroadband we must prepare for 12 hours of no power at a time now [07:35] <Jacques_StrY> ??? [07:35] <Kilos> can someone here speak french? [07:36] <Kilos> http://newsletters.mybroadband.co.za/lt.php?c=465&m=480&nl=2&s=bf7acfe2dfd656e64c262fe9165a0e17&lid=10657&l=-http--mybroadband.co.za/news/energy/124657-prepare-for-power-load-shedding-which-could-last-12-hours.html [07:36] <Kilos> oh mybroadband [07:37] <MaNI> I should really sort my solar backup plans out [07:39] <MaNI> http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-Shipping-Z3-ATX-160-160W-high-power-24pin-mini-ITX-DC-ATX-power-supply-with/211500_729581097.html < anyone know a local place that sells things like that? [07:45] <Kilos> sjoe [07:58] <pieter2627> morning all [07:58] <Kilos> hi pieter2627 [07:58] <Kilos> gaanit? [07:58] <pieter2627> goed dankie, self? [07:58] <Kilos> goed dankie [08:00] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy [08:17] <Jacques_StrY> MaNI: http://goo.gl/NNjWHC [08:18] <Kilos> pieter2627 one comment fron the council [08:18] <Kilos> I see no problems or concerns with this site, everything looks great to me. [08:19] <MaNI> Jacques_StrY, nice thanks [08:19] <MaNI> 160W maybe just too low, hmm [08:20] <Jacques_StrY> Yea a bot low [08:20] <Jacques_StrY> bit* [08:23] <Jacques_StrY> and that only works with itx boards - no extra 4pin power connecter [08:23] <Jacques_StrY> connector* [08:23] <Jacques_StrY> sigh... [08:25] <pieter2627> Kilos: oky, imo the line up of the button look nice though [08:26] <Kilos> yeah it was just one guys um [08:26] <Kilos> er [08:26] <Kilos> opinion [08:27] <MaNI> Jacques_StrY, yeah, sucks how limited we are locally sometimes, forever finding little things I want that can't be bought easily here [08:59] <Squirm> Morning [08:59] <Squirm> Does anyone know what papers I need to register my car in a different province? [09:00] <Kilos> hi Squirm [09:01] <Kilos> see if you can find anything on your local testing grounds online [09:01] <Squirm> I've tried [09:02] <Kilos> they keep all papers in hardcopy but not sure abnout online [09:02] <Kilos> oh my [09:02] <Squirm> No, I mean [09:02] <Squirm> what documents [09:02] <Squirm> Do I need to take my Natis [09:02] <Kilos> whats that? [09:02] <Squirm> logbook [09:02] <Kilos> oh yes [09:03] <Squirm> Because the bank has mine :/ [09:03] <Squirm> Crap [09:03] <Kilos> years agon you took your vehicle registration papers to the new peeps [09:03] <Kilos> the paper they send you for renewal of licence should do [09:04] <Kilos> all your info is on there so you should just need id with that [09:04] <Squirm> On where? [09:04] <Kilos> unless everything has changed now too [09:05] <Squirm> I basically need to renew my license and get CA plates [09:05] <Kilos> you know the paper you cut out the licence [09:05] <Kilos> that has engine and registration info on it iirc [09:06] <Kilos> maybe i keep quiet, its been years since i did it [09:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> Squirm: give them a call on 086 010 3089 they are generally quite clued up [09:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> or go pay them a visit: http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/Vehiclelicensing/Pages/Vehicleregistrationoffices2.aspx [09:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> once you've got all that sorted, you can also renew your car licence online every year [09:11] <Squirm> Thanks ThatGraemeGuy, awesome! [09:11] * Squirm falls in love with Cape Town [09:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> also might want to bookmark this one: https://www.capetown.gov.za/en/ServiceRequests/Pages/default.aspx [09:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> and this one too: https://www.capetown.gov.za/en/contact/Pages/default.aspx [09:16] <Squirm> Sorted [09:16] <Squirm> Just need ID and Proof of Address [09:16] <Kilos> cool [09:16] <Squirm> Thanks ThatGraemeGuy, much appreciated [09:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> no problem :) [09:57] * magespawn wonders if there are sites like that for the rest of the country [10:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> not until the DA is voted in :-p [10:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> I'm sure there are, but whether they are as effective is another issue [10:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> I reported a burst water main one sunday evening around 9 and the truck was there 15 minutes later [10:11] <MaNI> yeah they are generally quite responsive [10:11] <MaNI> can get car licensing sorted out in person without feeling like the people on the other end of the counter hate you etc. [10:12] <Kilos> lol [10:12] <MaNI> lots of room for improvement, especially the building plan people, but functional at least [10:19] <magespawn> i am out of here for now [10:19] <magespawn> chat later [10:19] <Jacques_StrY> cheers [10:33] <Kilos> hmm... [10:33] <Jacques_StrY> ??? [10:35] <Kilos> these peeps that disappear at lunch time [10:43] <Jacques_StrY> Eating lunch in front of my pc... [10:43] <Kilos> best place [10:43] <Kilos> dont mess on the keyboard [10:43] <Jacques_StrY> haha no i'm a pro by now [10:44] <Kilos> hahaha [10:44] <Kilos> did you see the link william left in list mail? [10:44] <Jacques_StrY> no... [10:44] <Jacques_StrY> what link [10:44] <Kilos> ill get it [10:45] <Kilos> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_idpAV8YcQ&feature=youtu.be [10:46] <Jacques_StrY> Ooh! Looks better than the one I tested, must be a newer version [10:47] <Kilos> if they make it so it doesnt need a dedicated server that could help [10:48] <Kilos> shame he has been trying for months now [10:49] <Jacques_StrY> Would be awesome if I could get the source [10:49] <Jacques_StrY> to try installing it [10:49] <Kilos> havent they got a forums [10:49] <Kilos> i cant get into that as well ill go mad [10:50] <Jacques_StrY> Found it [10:50] <Jacques_StrY> But seems you still need a dedicated server [10:50] <Kilos> cool [10:50] <Kilos> eish [10:51] <Kilos> then he will have to get his friend in pennington to host it [10:51] <Jacques_StrY> install is at least fully-automated apt install with proper repository [10:51] <Kilos> cool [10:51] <Jacques_StrY> will test it tonight but should work easily then [10:52] <Kilos> ok keep william informed please, im sure he thinks everyone has given up on it [10:52] <Jacques_StrY> :) Will do [10:52] <Kilos> :D [10:53] <Kilos> see thats my other job [10:53] <Jacques_StrY> haha [10:53] <Kilos> make sure everyone is working their butts off but with a smile on the face [10:54] <Jacques_StrY> I see they still use that wierd SQL [10:55] <Kilos> i dunno bout that or mysql [10:55] <Kilos> pc decides wha it want to use [10:56] <Kilos> hi SilverCode hows you [10:57] <Kilos> have you joined out list yet? [10:58] <Kilos> s/out/our [10:58] <Kilos> mailing list that is [10:58] <Kilos> and also ubuntu za on launchpad [10:59] <Kilos> ask inetpro for the link [11:29] <Kilos> hi Private_User [11:29] <Private_User> hi Kilos [11:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> what is lunch? [11:44] <Kilos> the tummy filling process that gets you through the afternoon with ease [11:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> sounds unfamiliar :p [11:47] <Kilos> aw shame [11:48] <Kilos> you nibble on the go? [11:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> no i'm more a breakfast and supper person [11:48] <Kilos> and coffee of course [11:48] <Kilos> ok [11:48] <Kilos> no coffee either? [11:49] <Kilos> sjoe [11:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> water [11:49] <Kilos> whew [11:50] <Kilos> my days would be long without coffee and tea [11:50] <Kilos> and a sarmy here and there [13:22] <Jacques_StrY> Cheers, chat later [14:05] <Kilos> hmm... [14:05] <Kilos> hi kulelu88 [14:06] <kulelu88> o/ [15:00] <Kilos> aw jacques is gone [15:13] <Kilos> wb Trixar_za you been gone a long time [15:13] <Kilos> you missed all the fun [15:14] <Trixar_za> Which fun woudl that be? [15:14] <Trixar_za> would* [15:14] <Kilos> we launched a new site [15:14] <Kilos> http://ubuntu-africa.info [15:14] <Kilos> hit refresh a few times on first page and watch [15:15] <Kilos> we as in the site building team of ubuntu-za [15:16] <Kilos> not me im an onlooker of note [16:00] <Kilos> hi Arcanum_za [16:01] <Kilos> oh its you trix [16:01] <Trixar_za> Thanks :P [16:02] <Kilos> lol you just confussing me [16:02] <Kilos> weve had so many new peeps im ready to welcome anyone i dont remember [16:23] <Kilos> hmm... [16:36] <Kilos> at least hibana shows when he is afk [16:39] <Kilos> inetpro is there any reason/excuse for for usings that dindins thing [17:50] <Kilos> hi psychicist [17:59] <Kilos> hmm... [18:15] <captine> evening all [18:15] <Kilos> hi captine [18:15] <Kilos> hows you? [18:29] <inetpro> . [18:29] <Kilos> >> [18:29] <Kilos> ai! [18:29] <Kilos> .. [18:30] <Kilos> MaNI whats happening with your connection [18:30] <inetpro> ohi Kilos [18:30] <Kilos> ohi inetpro [18:31] * inetpro dog-tired [18:31] <Kilos> inetpro is there any reason/excuse for me usings that dindins thing [18:31] <inetpro> dindind? [18:31] <Kilos> then you must sleep early ballie [18:31] <inetpro> dindins? [18:31] <Kilos> dyndns [18:32] <inetpro> Kilos: why would you want it? [18:32] <Kilos> im asking you [18:32] <inetpro> why asking? [18:32] <Kilos> dont answer a question with a question [18:33] <inetpro> what makes you think that you would need it? [18:33] <Kilos> im asking you is there a reason i could need it [18:33] <inetpro> many [18:33] <Kilos> ai! [18:34] <Kilos> name them [18:35] <Private_User> guys, I was just curious, how do hotels setup all the DSTV channels on each channel in each room? For us we would have to buy the decoder and change the channels via the decoder but at hotels I noticed they have it setup where one would just change the channels on the TV so wondering how they do that? [18:35] <Private_User> I tried searching on the net but not sure what to search for cause I do not find what I am looking for? [18:37] <inetpro> Kilos: there are many reasons why you could use it but I don't think there's one good reason why you should use it [18:38] <Kilos> ok ty inetpro ill close that tap then [18:38] <Kilos> opera will be happy [18:38] <inetpro> ai! [18:38] <Kilos> lol what now [18:38] <inetpro> you had an open tap? [18:38] <Kilos> yes for a week now [18:38] <Kilos> i been busy [18:38] * inetpro shakes his head [18:38] <Kilos> Private_User hand a bit plse [18:39] <Kilos> hang [18:39] <Private_User> lol ok Kilos, I will hand and hang a bit [18:39] <Private_User> lol [18:40] <Kilos> hehe [18:41] <Kilos> start here https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmybroadband.co.za%2Fvb%2Fshowthread.php%2F315993-DSTV-in-Guesthouses&ei=Kes3VcPrAaKR7AaHhoGgDA&usg=AFQjCNGtIqRgbimB2SuegXwn0iT9uSUi2w&sig2=_vQC9IKVt4D58ri5YYw65w&bvm=bv.91071109,d.ZGU [18:41] <Kilos> whew [18:42] <Kilos> Private_User ^^ [18:43] <Kilos> or here http://is.gd/N5BCuQ [18:43] <captine> Kilos, sorry, neighbour popped in. Am good thanks [18:43] <Kilos> good captine [18:43] <captine> so all, whats the safest way to remove unity and replace it with gnome 3? [18:43] <captine> on 14.04 [18:44] <captine> want to try something different [18:44] <Kilos> just install gnome3 [18:44] <Kilos> then choose at boot [18:45] <captine> doesnt it break things if both are installed? [18:45] <captine> (unity and gnome) [18:45] <Kilos> when you get to where you ener password there is a tiny thing top right that lets you choose [18:45] <Kilos> if it will break things in wont install [18:46] <captine> ok. I thought I read that, esp if you use the gnome PPA, it will change some libraries or something and break things... [18:46] <captine> will give it a shot soon [18:46] <Kilos> you could install it with aptitude to make sure [18:46] <Kilos> aptitude will give options [18:46] <Kilos> if there could be a prob [18:48] <superfly> install the gnome-desktop package [18:48] <superfly> it's supposed to be part of the repos [18:49] <Kilos> there you go [18:49] <superfly> hrm, maybe not on 14.04 though [18:49] <Kilos> ty superfly [18:49] <Private_User> thanks Kilos, its what I found as well but getting 100% how they do it. I worked for a company where they had TVs in each building where at the back of the TV a what looked like a normal antenna cable was plugged into the TV then you did a search on the tv and it picked up the DSTV channels sort of like how we used to search when the only channels we had were the SABC Channels using a UHF/VHF ariel [18:51] <Kilos> whew Private_User thats beyond me [18:51] <Private_User> lol [18:52] <Kilos> do you want to run a hotel now [18:53] <kulelu88> Private_User: they must have been broadcasting from 1 decoder across a local frequency [18:53] <Private_User> yeah I was just curious how they did I always wondered but today a friend of min is staying at a hotel so the thought came back to me and was wondering if it can be setup at home so we pay for one subscription without needing extra view and dual view and PVR [18:54] <Kilos> lol [18:54] <superfly> Private_User: they probably pay a special exhorbitant rate to do that [18:54] <kulelu88> Possible, yes. You could even do it via streaming [18:54] <Private_User> yeah sounds like that could be it kulelu88 but what hardware will be needed? [18:54] <superfly> Private_User: which would make the extra view/ dual view look like pocket change [18:54] <Private_User> lol superfly [18:55] <kulelu88> Well as long as nobody who works for SAPS is here, I'm thinking ... [18:55] <kulelu88> decoder [18:55] <kulelu88> some type of streaming device [18:55] <Private_User> thats what I wanna avoid paying and more money per month [18:55] <kulelu88> antenna [18:55] <kulelu88> and receiving antennae [18:58] <Private_User> if we can figure that out then it would be lekker then we can get OpenView HD, DSTV and that other one which used to be TOPTV and also a FTA receiver to receive all the FTA channels then instead of changing from AV1 to AV2 or HDMI1 to HDMI 2 for each decoder everything will be on the tv then we just select the tv channels [18:58] <Kilos> whew when are you going to work [18:58] <Private_User> or even better if I install a Tuner card or something on the PC/Laptop then I can watch it on my laptop like that [18:59] <kulelu88> I think having DStv alone would suffice. isn't openview where ETV plays all their Segal movies from 1999? [18:59] <Private_User> lol @ kulelu88 [18:59] <kulelu88> kwaai movies some of them [19:00] <Private_User> lol Kilos, I try to work everyday [19:00] <Private_User> hehe [19:00] <Kilos> ya but not once you sort all this tv stuff [19:01] <Private_User> oh well I will find out eventually but optimal setup is to have them setup on my laptop... hmm... this gets me thinking is there any Free Open Source software out there to receive channels so I can just connect a satellite to the computer and pick everything up for free maybe the software can decode it for me [19:02] <Private_User> cause paying to watch the same thing over and over again seems like a waste of money in my opinion rather spend the money on broadband [19:03] <Private_User> and even that is too expensive at the moment but what can we do [19:04] <Private_User> hence the reason for looking for alternative solutions like above [19:04] <kulelu88> where do you live? Priva [19:04] <kulelu88> Private_User: [19:05] <Private_User> South Africa [19:05] <Private_User> lol [19:05] <Private_User> you wanted precise location kulelu88 [19:05] <kulelu88> tis be ubuntu ZA, we're all from SA :/ [19:05] <Private_User> LOL [19:05] <Private_User> I know [19:05] <Private_User> KZN [19:06] <Kilos> haha think again [19:06] <kulelu88> dirtbin or Ballito <3 ?? [19:06] <Private_User> oh yeah there are a few ex pats here hey Kilos and they not living in SA [19:07] <Kilos> and a buntu member from the staes i think [19:07] <Kilos> states [19:07] <kulelu88> Muricans [19:07] <Private_User> no kulelu88, dirtbin I think is a very unhygenic place to live [19:07] <Private_User> lol [19:08] <kulelu88> radiation wise, it's the safest to live [19:08] <Private_User> but I am not far from Balito, Balito is like right next door to me [19:08] <Private_User> lol @ kulelu88 [19:09] <kulelu88> ahh you're just the guy who can tell me about life in the dolphin coast. [19:09] <Private_User> 10 min drive and I am in Balito [19:09] <kulelu88> is jy n oom of a rugby player? [19:09] <Private_User> 20 to 30 min drive and I am in Durban central [19:09] <Private_User> depending on traffic [19:10] <Private_User> kulelu88: we have the beach here, need I say more... LOL [19:11] <kulelu88> but how is life there. Can I surf in July? Is there a lot of outdoor activities? Is it a retirement village for old people? [19:11] <Private_User> yesterday when I decided to take a break I went and sat at the Beach [19:11] <Private_User> yeah you can Surf dude in July [19:11] <kulelu88> how old are you? Private_User [19:12] <Private_User> if I remember correctly I think in July is when they used to have the surfing competitions in Durban, cannot remember do they still do that? [19:12] <kulelu88> searching says the Mr Price surf event is now in Ballito [19:12] <Private_User> lots of outdoor activities as well [19:13] <Private_User> but Balito is becoming an expensive place to live [19:13] <kulelu88> yeah. 40m^2 flat in an estate is R5000 [19:14] <Private_User> yeah and people say cost of living on JHB is expensive, I disagree [19:15] <kulelu88> JHB is cheaper rental wise (cause there's more housing) [19:15] <Private_User> yeah but I think its more or less the same depending where you live but here because we at the coast its a bit more pricey because of the Sea I think [19:16] <kulelu88> I'm guessing you stay north of Ballito? [19:16] <Private_User> South, North of Durban place called Tongaat [19:17] <Private_User> I stay on a farm at the moment [19:17] <kulelu88> you a indian bloke? [19:17] <Private_User> where are you @? [19:18] <Private_User> does it make a difference dude? [19:18] <kulelu88> PTA [19:18] <Private_User> this is the New South Africa we all South Africans [19:18] <Kilos> yeah indians make better curry [19:18] <Private_User> HAHAHA [19:18] <kulelu88> no not really. I'm just following the Home Affairs principle of classifying you racially B-) [19:18] <Private_User> LOL [19:18] <kulelu88> Kilos: hows your GF? [19:19] <Kilos> which one [19:19] <kulelu88> from facebook [19:19] <Kilos> getting old [19:20] <Private_User> the issue now is that there are so many people from other countries here if we say we are Indian/Asian/African now people gonna think we from those other countries then the Xenophobia people will come to attack [19:20] <Private_User> lol [19:20] <Private_User> some of the Chinese shops in Durban were attacked by Xenophobia [19:21] <kulelu88> I dont think the okes here care much for politics or issues in SA. We all universally accept that its a kak country [19:21] <Private_User> so they now are done with African foreigners and moving on to people from other parts of the world, SAD [19:22] <Private_User> oh well, for now let me go eat and BBL [19:23] <Private_User> btw kulelu88, what did the previous regime classify you as? You can guess what they classified me as [19:24] <kulelu88> chinese? [19:25] <Private_User> your nick and place of residence is confusing me so honestly I doubt I can guess what they classified you as but then again I never care too much about those things cause I never see it until its actually mentioned [19:25] <Private_User> ok be back in a bit time for dinner [19:26] <Private_User> late dinner [19:26] <kulelu88> enjoy [19:26] <Private_User> hehe [19:31] <Kilos> kulelu88 what you doing investigating my fb [19:31] <Kilos> that was long back info i put there [19:31] <kulelu88> you confused Kilos . I'm talking about that chick I showed you yesrday. [19:32] <Kilos> i didnt look [19:33] <Kilos> so yes i was confused [19:35] <Kilos> inetpro gaan slaap man [19:37] <Kilos> superfly did you notice the council are happy with the site [19:37] <Kilos> ive filled in another form with canonical and if they again dont answer for 2 weeks ill just forget about it [19:38] <superfly> Kilos: ya, but you need to talk to canonical [19:38] <superfly> yeah, that's fine. put the ball in their court [19:38] <Kilos> i dont know how to chat direct [19:39] <Kilos> its only the legal department that we need to clear with [19:39] <Kilos> the council with mark it are happy [19:39] <Kilos> on it [19:39] <Kilos> hehe he even mailed me and asked where the url was [19:46] <superfly> ah, OK, then I think we're in the clear [19:46] <captine> (unity and gnome)so. anyone had issues with wifi strength on intel centrino wifi and ubuntu [19:46] <captine> windows seems to have a stronger signal [19:47] <Kilos> windows is just lying to you with false info [19:57] <captine> lol [20:01] <smile> Hi :) [20:01] <Kilos> hi smile [20:02] <smile> Still having problems with freezing pc [20:02] <smile> :-( [20:02] <Kilos> eish [20:03] <smile> Power save will go off starting tomorrow [20:03] <smile> I hope thats the solution [20:03] <Kilos> what OS you using? [20:04] <Kilos> does it freeze when hibernating [20:06] <smile> Its a family pc running Windows.. The other pc runs Linux Mint [20:06] <Kilos> oh then there is a quick cure [20:06] <Kilos> boot from ubuntu dvd and choose delete and use whole drive' [20:07] * Kilos ducks [20:07] <smile> Not sure, I doubt its a software issue [20:07] <smile> And Kilos then I would lose my data partition too [20:07] <Kilos> lol [20:08] <Kilos> why do you think i ducked [20:08] <smile> Probably my family wont like it, lol [20:08] <smile> :-P [20:08] <Kilos> turn of the hibernate function too [20:08] <smile> You were afraid [20:08] <smile> :-P [20:08] <Kilos> ya i thought you would fight me and im only small [20:09] <smile> Lol :) [20:14] <smile> Its hard to change operating systems for my family, they all use windows specific software. Some runs on wine, some not [20:14] <smile> Its just unrealistic [20:14] <Kilos> ya then just find whats causing it to hang [20:15] <smile> First I thought sata connection, but the old one has the same problem [20:15] <Kilos> as you say power saving first then hibernate then look further [20:15] <Kilos> oh a desktop pc? [20:16] <smile> Then power cable, but its fine as far as I can see [20:16] <smile> Yeah [20:16] <Kilos> have you got a spare psu? [20:16] <smile> So now I will look at my last options [20:17] <smile> Nope. :-P [20:17] <Kilos> ai! [20:17] <Kilos> how much dust is on the cpu cooler [20:18] <Kilos> and back of psu by fan [20:19] <smile> All fine. Booting from hard disk worked, its just the ssd [20:19] <Kilos> ah [20:19] <Kilos> move the sata to another socket [20:22] <smile> It always worked from sata port 1. Port 3 works also. Its not the sata [20:23] <Kilos> well if the hdd works then it must be the OS or the ssd [20:23] <Kilos> so you can try a backup then reinstall [20:24] <Kilos> or move the ssd to another pc [20:25] <smile> Its a new install. :) [20:25] <Kilos> ai! [20:25] <smile> That last thing is an option, yes, thanks :) [20:26] <Kilos> you have to check piece by piece till you pinpoint the trouble part [20:26] <Kilos> there is a saying for that [20:26] <Kilos> i forget [20:26] <smile> Dont worry :) [20:28] <Kilos> process of elimination [20:29] <Kilos> or something like that [20:29] <Kilos> easiest is move ssd to another pc and if that freezes you have your prob [20:30] <smile> Yeah [20:32] <smile> I wont be thanked though [20:32] <smile> :-P [20:33] <Kilos> just find the prob first [20:33] <Kilos> if its the ssd it could be a bad install [20:33] <Kilos> have you run chkdsk [20:33] <smile> It works great.. :-P [20:34] <smile> Yes, all fine [20:34] <Kilos> yes they are fast [20:34] <Kilos> ok then you have no choice [20:34] <Kilos> only for a day to find the prob thats all [20:37] <smile> I can put a live session of ubuntu on the faulty pc while the ssd is out, so we have at least one pc [20:37] <Kilos> family cant be happy with the freezing [20:37] <Kilos> where is the hdd that was in there before the ssd [20:38] <superfly> I gave some friends a live CD to use in their computer while I got hold of a Windows CD for reinstalling... they didn't once have an issue with the PC while using Linux. Put Windows back on and the original problems appeared again. And yet they refused to load Linux [20:39] <superfly> as jy dom is, is jy dom, hey Kilos? [20:39] <smile> Its still alive but without bootable operating system because I removed grub [20:39] <Kilos> hahaha peeps are so funy [20:39] <Kilos> funny [20:39] <Kilos> ek stem [20:39] <superfly> Kilos is not dom [20:40] <Kilos> not that dom anyway [20:40] <superfly> you're not dom at all [20:40] <superfly> slow at times, yes, but not stupid [20:40] <Kilos> hmm... [20:42] <Kilos> sounds like you trying to convince me [20:42] <Kilos> hows the family superfly [20:43] <superfly> doing fine [20:43] <Kilos> great [20:51] <melodie> hi [20:51] <Kilos> hi melodie [20:51] <Kilos> nice to see you back here [20:51] <melodie> hi Kilos o/ [20:51] <melodie> thanks for the greetings [20:52] <Kilos> the guys said hi to you last night but you stayed quiet [20:52] <Kilos> maybe got lost somewhere [20:53] <Kilos> kulelu88 melodie is in the south of france [20:53] <Kilos> say hi superfly [20:54] <Kilos> melodie superfly is the brain behind our sites [20:55] <superfly> more like the fingers [20:55] <Kilos> haha [20:56] <melodie> hi superfly [20:56] <kulelu88> bonjour melodie [20:56] <superfly> hi melodie [20:56] <kulelu88> jini se qwa [20:56] <melodie> Kilos next month I'll be teaching the director of a non for profit association : he needs to learn the basics in Linux administration. [20:56] <melodie> the contract is made [20:56] <melodie> his non for profit operates in countries in Africa to help the people [20:57] <melodie> digging wells and else, that kind if thing [20:57] <melodie> salut kulelu88 [20:57] <melodie> hi superfly [20:57] <melodie> Kilos I don't know where they work though, I'll discover. they have 5 machines running Linux Mint, Ubuntu Edition (Mate) [20:58] <Kilos> ok [21:00] <Kilos> melodie where are you going to teach [21:00] <melodie> I will probably present Bento so they can bring Bento to Africa as well, and also Malinux, which is especially dedicated to Mali (teachers in high schools and universities) [21:00] <melodie> Kilos in my area, about 1 and half hour drive [21:00] <Kilos> nice [21:00] <melodie> they have their main office in Toulouse, and their work office in the countrysdie [21:00] <melodie> contryside [21:01] <melodie> sorry fingers mixed XD [21:02] <Kilos> lol [21:02] <Kilos> how long are you going to teach for? [21:03] <superfly> KDE Connect FTW [21:03] <Kilos> superfly ? [21:04] <superfly> Kilos: it's an app for your Android and a widget thing for your KDE desktop, which allows you to trasfer files and do a few other things [21:04] <Kilos> aha [21:12] <Kilos> melodie teach them irc as well and give them the ubuntu-africa.info link and irx #ubuntu-africa [21:14] <Private_User> back [21:15] <Kilos> irc [21:16] <melodie> Kilos if we have time, will do. 2 days is a bit short to put everthing into the course [21:16] <Kilos> wow [21:17] <melodie> Kilos how long : 4 half days (3 hours each with half an hour break in the middle) [21:17] <Kilos> have they any linux background already? [21:20] <Kilos> and melodie are you going to give support later [21:21] <Kilos> you can use #ubuntu-africa if you like [21:21] <melodie> Kilos do you know I have my own chan? [21:21] <melodie> :D [21:21] <melodie> #linuxvillage [21:22] <melodie> but thanks [21:22] <Kilos> oh yes [21:22] <melodie> I will certainly provide support later if requested [21:31] <Kilos> i need to sleep. night all, sleep tight [21:37] <melodie> what makes #ubuntu-africa and #ubuntu-za different? [21:58] <kulelu88> the name melodie [21:58] <melodie> kulelu88 lol [21:59] <kulelu88> actually, nothing happens in ubuntu africa [22:01] <melodie> do you want to test Bento ? (Ubuntu Openbox Remix) ? [22:02] <kulelu88> Bentobox? [22:04] <melodie> nice name [22:04] <melodie> Bento is a japonese word for lunch box [22:04] <melodie> so the name box is already in Bento [22:04] <melodie> Bentobox would mean lunch box box [22:04] <melodie> :D [22:04] <kulelu88> why does bentobox ring a bell :/ [22:05] <melodie> let's check on the internet? [22:06] <kulelu88> this is why: https://www.bento.io/ [22:07] <melodie> http://www.black-blum.fr/products/bento-box/ [22:07] <melodie> oh? [22:07] <melodie> this is bento (io) not bentobox [22:08] <kulelu88> yeah [22:09] <kulelu88> aah if you search for bento box you'll see why. it's called that by many companies [22:10] <melodie> we will name "Bento" either bentovillage, or bentolinux [22:10] <melodie> probably bentolinux I think [22:11] <melodie> what would you say? [22:11] <melodie> here is a summary, by the way, http://forum.linuxvillage.org/index.php/topic,701.0.html [22:12] <kulelu88> bentolinux sounds nicer [22:13] <melodie> kulelu88 thanks [22:13] <kulelu88> although I'm not sure why you guys are making another distro [22:14] <melodie> oh does anyone here need a domain name ? I have won several at gandi.net while they were celebrating their 15th birthday. I can give away promo codes for .xyz and .me as I have several, and also one .info for 1 euro [22:14] <melodie> and 2 .websites [22:14] <melodie> kulelu88 lighter while elegant and easy to go [22:14] <melodie> I started in 2009 with PCLinuxOS [22:14] <melodie> until 2012 [22:15] <melodie> then in 2012 I wanted it to be supported by a stronger basis (teams, packages and so on) [22:16] <kulelu88> i'll take a .me [22:16] <melodie> so I reproduced the method in Ubuntu and adapted it, while working to get some packages into the repos. openbox-menu and obsession are now in the Debian repositories, which means they are available in Ubuntu as well [22:16] <melodie> give me your mail address and I forward you a promo code [22:16] <kulelu88> so I get the .me for free? [22:16] <melodie> you also need to be registered at http://gandi.net to buy your domain and once you are about to pay to enter the promo code and then the bill is 0 euro [22:17] <melodie> you will have it for free for one year [22:17] <kulelu88> but they take my card details? [22:17] <melodie> I am not sure what your question is, but come to #gandi and you ask [22:17] <melodie> here on freenode too [22:18] <kulelu88> melodie: they don't bill me, but in order to buy the domain, they take my purchase details? [22:18] <melodie> I don't remember that part [22:18] <melodie> just come at #gandi and we ask, they all talk English there [22:18] <melodie> and some French too :) [22:42] <melodie> bonne nuit - good night [23:08] <inetpro> superfly: thanks for mentioning KDE Connect! [23:09] <inetpro> Maaz: tell Kilos and this is what happens if I go sleep early... sleep patterns messed up now [23:09] <Maaz> inetpro: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [23:12] <inetpro> wb DalekSec [23:13] <DalekSec> Thanks. [23:14] <kulelu88> watch some series inetpro [23:15] <inetpro> kulelu88: lol [23:15] <kulelu88> im serious [23:15] <kulelu88> what you watch currently? [23:15] * inetpro I'll go sleep now [23:15] <inetpro> just had to run updates with midnight data

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.276478

2015-04-22-#kubuntu-devel

[00:58] <cyphermox> ahoneybun: if you want to test dailies, make sure you look at iso.qa.ubuntu.com to see which image is up for testing, and mark it so we know you're testing something [01:21] <ahoneybun> cyphermox: I have been [01:23] <ahoneybun> mark? [01:34] <ahoneybun> any ninjas around? [01:45] <ahoneybun> latest build work fine with manual partitioning [01:47] <valorie> you are marking that in the qa site, right? [01:47] <valorie> I assume that is what cyphermox meant, ahoneybun [01:47] <ahoneybun> no way to [01:48] <valorie> what? [01:48] <valorie> of course there is [01:48] <valorie> what would be the point of a qa site with no way to report results? [01:48] <ahoneybun> now there is [01:49] <ahoneybun> it keeps disappearing [01:49] <valorie> strange [01:49] <ahoneybun> unless there is a new image... [01:49] <valorie> new image today; the final [01:49] <ahoneybun> damn it [01:50] <ahoneybun> I keep being late [01:50] <valorie> about 4 hours ago [01:50] <ahoneybun> 20150421.1 [01:50] <ahoneybun> I have 20150421 [01:50] <valorie> [14:16] [Notice] -queuebot to #kubuntu-devel- [16:52:54] Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Vivid Final] has been updated (20150421.1) [01:50] <valorie> [14:16] [Notice] -queuebot to #kubuntu-devel- [16:52:59] Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Vivid Final] has been updated (20150421.1) [01:50] <valorie> heh [01:50] * ahoneybun did not see that [01:50] <valorie> you can zsync it [01:50] * ahoneybun clueless [01:51] <valorie> should only take a sec to update [01:51] <valorie> !zsync [01:51] <ahoneybun> so I could see report my findings without reinstalling> [01:51] <ahoneybun> ? [01:52] <valorie> you'll have to update your iso [01:52] <valorie> and reload that [01:52] <valorie> or just upgrade [01:53] <valorie> you are testing in a vm? [01:53] * ahoneybun has redownload, reinstalled 3-4 times and has one 1 report [01:53] <ahoneybun> real hardware [01:53] <valorie> just update and full-upgrade [01:54] <valorie> and you'll be golden [01:54] <ahoneybun> and then report my findings? [01:56] * ahoneybun wants to leave reports to help [02:14] <valorie> yes of course [06:19] <soee> good morning [07:51] <vip> hello [07:51] <soee> hiho vip [08:16] <Riddell> ddddd [08:16] <Riddell> sorry, fixing space bar :) [08:18] <soee> :p [08:18] <Riddell> so, 1 day to release [08:18] <Riddell> testing testing! [08:18] <Riddell> !testers | ISOs! [08:21] <Riddell> jose: ovidiu-florin: how's the new website coming?
 the thing is already on the works
 I have already passed it on to them, they have the file already
 status, ask IS [08:21] <vip> Riddell: only if I know the path to download .iso... [08:21] <Riddell> vip: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds will have the links [08:21] <soee> ;) [08:21] <ovidiu-florin> I don't know what IS is [08:22] <Riddell> ahoneybun: we're in release candidate period, we don't make dailies we just respin when we find problems with fixes [08:22] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: it means sysadmins in some silly professonal language [08:22] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: #canonical-sysadmin [08:22] <ovidiu-florin> ok [08:22] <ovidiu-florin> thanks [09:00] <Riddell> I started a 15.10 board because someone contected me about kphotoalbum https://trello.com/b/knlSk3FO/15-10 [09:00] <Riddell> contacted [09:34] <sitter> Riddell: needs admins assigned [09:34] <sitter> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Trello [09:39] <yofel> Riddell: the -dev packages are broken? [09:43] <yofel> oh, right, someone dropped them in utopic.... [09:49] <Riddell> yofel: there's two people packaging kphotoalbum in ppas, I'll try and get them to come into kubuntu [09:49] <Riddell> sitter: I added organisation people is that right? [09:49] <yofel> what do they different from the archive packaging? add those -dev libs somehow? [09:50] <Riddell> yes and a couple of patches to make the dev packages actually work for external apps [09:50] <Riddell> digikam is most annoying in its habit of having libraries which are sometimes but not always external [09:51] <Riddell> really the world should be just like qtwebengine and bundle everything :) [09:51] <Riddell> mitya57: Mirv: have you guys seen that discussion on kde-core-devel? [09:52] <Riddell> seems we aren't going to package it in ubuntu http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.core/86778 [09:52] <Riddell> right, plasma 5.3 backports should be ready now [09:52] <yofel> we already have that, it's called windows [09:53] <lordievader> Good morning. [09:54] <sitter> Riddell: read the wiki page? you need to enable the organization to join and then add a couple and mark them admin [10:18] <lordievader> Riddell: Regarding bug 1445383 (the Akonadi bug), in todays image I can launch the KAddressBook without issues. Akonadi is also running quite a few processes. [10:18] <lordievader> Not entirely sure how to test the bug further. [10:18] <Riddell> lordievader: lovely, thanks [10:18] <lordievader> This is a live-session by the by. [10:18] <Riddell> I guess set up e-mail if you can but that's faffy [10:19] <lordievader> With Gmail's Application passwords that is a bit annoying. Do you mind if I skip that? [10:19] <Riddell> sure [10:20] <yofel> I think to properly test that, you would have to set up akonadi with mysql 5.5, then update mysql to 5.6 and see what happens [10:21] <lordievader> yofel: I can do that when it's installed, sure. [10:21] <yofel> as vivid only has 5.6, easyest way would probably be an utopic -> vivid upgrade [10:22] * lordievader doesn't have Utopic available. [10:22] <lordievader> The live-cd has 5.6 installed. [10:23] <yofel> you could probably add the utopic sources and switch mysql to 5.5 (after stopping akonadi and wiping the DB) [10:23] <Riddell> I'll test the upgrade in a bit [10:27] * Riddell publishes http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.3-beta [10:28] <Riddell> mparillo: one for social media (not wire) http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.3-beta [10:34] <Mirv> Riddell: I've followed lisandro's talks on the topic on the #debian-qt-kde [10:42] <soee> Riddell: did you fixed the 2 issues (kubntu-desktop and ksysguard in 5.3 beta ) ? [10:42] <mparillo> Riddell: Got it. 5.3 beta is already better for me on physical HW than 5.2, but a total mess in my VMware VM when I use open-vm-tools-desktop to enable maximizing my window. Of course, total mess is a bad bug report, so any tips on reporting it. [10:43] <yofel> what happens? [10:45] <soee> only these packages will be removed when upgrading to 5.3: libksgrd5 libksignalplotter5 libprocesscore5 libprocessui5 right ? [10:45] <mparillo> The panel stays in the middle of the screen, everything becomes blurry, and almost completely unresponsive. [10:45] <kfunk> what? 5.3 features energy consumption stats? cool :0 [10:46] <yofel> kfunk: in kinfocenter? [10:46] <kfunk> yeah [10:46] <yofel> sweet, need to look at that later [10:46] * kfunk gotta upgrade [10:46] <kfunk> yofel: https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.3/kinfocenter-energy.png [10:46] <kfunk> looks fancy [10:47] <yofel> \o/ [10:48] <soee> i like thi name: libkf5activitiesexperimentalstats1 [10:51] <kfunk> yofel: it even works! [10:53] <lordievader> Riddell: Regarding the other bug of yesterday (Libreoffice), the installer finished correctly even with the update checkbox checked. [10:56] <Riddell> lordievader: which language? [10:56] <soee> reboot [10:57] <Riddell> soee: yes but please test them by removing staging ppa and adding kubuntu-ppa/beta and checking you can install kubuntu-desktop and kinfocenter and plasma-mediacenter and ksysguard [11:01] <soee> back on 5.3beta [11:02] <lordievader> Riddell: English. [11:07] <mparillo> Tweeted, G+'d, and Facebooked. Are we close enough to test https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu omitting the apply 14.10 updates step. [11:08] <soee> in 5.3beta konversation has some straneg icon oO [11:08] <mparillo> soee: Like a megaphone? [11:08] <soee> mparillo: yes [11:09] <lordievader> yofel: How do I stop akonadi and wipe the db? [11:09] * ahoneybun is a admin :) [11:10] <mparillo> In default breeze, it is a colored megaphone on the application launcher, which makes it a closer match to the white megaphone in the black oval I get when I drag it down the the panel. On 5.2, it was a cartoon balloon with a hash inside on the application launcher. [11:10] <Riddell> lordievader: I wonder if it's language specific [11:11] <Riddell> !testers | please check non-english installs [11:11] <lordievader> Riddell: I'll set it to Dutch next time. [11:12] <soee> ill able to test after 20:00 cet :( [11:13] <Riddell> mparillo: yes please update VividUpgrades page (using images from UtopicUpgrades is fine for the muon notifications) and remove the 14.10 updates as I'm pretty sure that's not needed (testing now) and do test the upgrade :) [11:13] <vip> Riddell: works [11:13] <vip> Riddell: 64bit iso [11:13] <Riddell> vip: what does? [11:13] <vip> Riddell: installed under virtualbox, works, language: polish [11:14] <Riddell> vip: great [11:15] <lordievader> vip: With the update checkbox checked? [11:15] <mparillo> Riddell: OK, testing the upgrade from 14.10 now. Will remove the bit about upgrading first if it works. [11:15] <vip> lordievader: naarp, did next-next-next installation [11:15] <lordievader> Hmm... [11:15] <vip> lordievader: I can test it again, no problem [11:15] * lordievader wonders if the bug is triggered by non-english + update. [11:16] <lordievader> vip: I'll test it too. But with a different language ;) [11:18] <Riddell> yeah I guess it'll be something obscure as else we'd have noticed it, maybe dutch :) [11:19] <lordievader> Hehe, probably ;) [11:20] <Riddell> scary thing, update-manager has a cache so I thought update notifications were not working but they are if you remove the cache [11:22] <Riddell> hmm gb.archive is 10 times faster than es.archive even in spain [11:37] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all [11:37] <Riddell> hi BluesKaj, comeing to help out the vivid testing party? [11:38] <BluesKaj> Riddell, sure ...what's the chat name? [11:39] <Riddell> umm, vivid testing party chat? [11:39] <soee> ;) [11:39] <BluesKaj> heh ok [11:40] <Riddell> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds [11:41] <lordievader> Riddell: Dutch install with updates completed. No problems. [11:43] <Riddell> great [11:43] <Riddell> lordievader: and the apps are all in dutch? [11:43] <lordievader> Hehe, haven't seen a Dutch Kubuntu in ages... ;) [11:43] <vip> same here [11:43] <Riddell> ook [11:43] <vip> but after installation, there are still 3 packages to update (as trayicon says) [11:44] <lordievader> The only thing that I see is not in Dutch is the Driver Manger. [11:44] <lordievader> All the rest seems Dutch. [11:46] <BluesKaj> had a couple of crashes when exiting apps like konversation and kate, but immaterial since it didn'y happen during use [11:46] <Riddell> that's because driver manager is translated in launchpad where there are not as many translators [11:46] <Riddell> we've fixed that for Whimsy Wallnut [11:46] <lordievader> Oehh, is that the codename for 15.10? [11:46] <BluesKaj> oh no [11:47] <Riddell> lordievader: it's the codename I just made up :) [11:47] <BluesKaj> WW somewthing [11:47] <lordievader> Riddell: Hehe, did you submit it as a suggestion? [11:47] <BluesKaj> wacky wabbit [11:53] <sitter> Riddell: we don't have an official name yet do we? [11:55] <lordievader> Hmm, X is broken after the oem-config... [11:56] <Riddell> sitter: nope [11:57] <sitter> most annoying [11:57] <Riddell> lordievader: what's broken about it? [11:57] <lordievader> Or it is sddm. [11:57] * Riddell is pretty resigned to saying oem wo't work on this release [11:57] <lordievader> When sddm is supposed to show I get a black screen. [11:57] <lordievader> Does ssddm log somewhere? [11:57] <Riddell> /var/log/sddm.log [11:59] <lordievader> It shows some pam authentication failure. I didn't check any autologin stuff. [12:01] <lordievader> Ah, X works. (If started manually anyways) [12:01] <tuv0k> http://picpaste.com/snapshot6-jJytQt1P.png [12:01] <BluesKaj> ok , going to try the daily on my other HDD, the upgrade here from 14.10 was more successful then the daily plus upgrades from 2 weeks ago in terms of plasma 4 supported apps like dolphin integration into plasma 5 ...the "look" between the 2 installs was very different [12:02] <BluesKaj> then=than [12:03] <lordievader> Hmm starting sddm manually doesn't give any hint on what is wrong. [12:04] <lordievader> Riddell: No, can't pinpoint what is wrong with sddm. Should I file a bug or is it simply too bad? [12:04] <BluesKaj> did you do systemctl enable sddm [12:05] <lordievader> BluesKaj: It starts that is not the problem. [12:05] <BluesKaj> ok [12:05] <lordievader> Riddell: Oeh... would it be that it tries to automatically login as the oem user? [12:07] <Riddell> lordievader: on the first reboot it should try to automatically login [12:07] <Riddell> dunno if that works at all with sddm [12:08] <Riddell> then you set up your computer and run oem-config-prepare [12:08] <Riddell> and on the next reboot it should start oem-cofig (ubiquity in oem mode) for the user who just bought the computer [12:08] <lordievader> Riddell: This is after running the oem-config. [12:09] <lordievader> After the first reboot the oem user log in just fine. [12:09] <Riddell> then you run oem-config-prepare? [12:09] <lordievader> After issueing the oem-config-prepare and rebooting I get the wizard. [12:09] <lordievader> Then after that reboot. I get a black screen. [12:09] <lordievader> In the sddm log there is an authentication failure. [12:11] <Riddell> ok so it's all perfect until the final step [12:11] <Riddell> lordievader: did you have to install oem-config at any time? [12:11] <lordievader> No. Didn't install anything manually. [12:11] <Riddell> lordievader: what's in /etc/sddm.something ? [12:11] <Riddell> groovy so the oem-config not installed bug fixed itself [12:12] <soee> spooky [12:12] <lordievader> Ah, that shows and autologin for user oem... [12:12] <Riddell> lordievader: remove that and restart sddm? [12:12] <lordievader> Guess the oem-config forgot to update that file. [12:12] <soee> do you gusy noticed tahat app response in 5.3.beta is much better ? [12:12] <Riddell> silly oem-config [12:13] <lordievader> Jup, after deleting the file SDDM starts fine. [12:14] <BluesKaj> so yes, snappier [12:14] <BluesKaj> soee,^ [12:14] <lordievader> Shall I file a bug against oem-config? [12:14] <Riddell> lordievader: file a bug on ubiquity for that then please and let me know the number [12:14] <Riddell> oem-config doesn't really exist, it's just ubiquity in disguise :) [12:14] <lordievader> Check. [12:20] <yofel> lordievader: stopping akonadi is 'akonadictl stop' [12:20] <yofel> then delete .local/share/akonadi [12:24] <lordievader> Riddell: Bug 1447144 [12:33] <soee> mparillo: i dont see 5.3beta info here https://plus.google.com/communities/108139456908538054874 [12:34] <Riddell> soee: it's on https://plus.google.com/107577785796696065138/posts I guess you can share it from there into the community? [12:34] <Riddell> g+ is so confusing [12:35] <Riddell> hopefully they'll shut it down soon [12:35] <lordievader> yofel: I can't install mysql-server-core-5.5, it errors with kdepim-runtime requiring akonadi-server >= 1.8. Apt probably tries to downgrade Akonadi. [12:37] <soee> Riddell: done [12:37] <yofel> hm... I might have removed 5.5 from the allowed version list... [12:40] <yofel> lordievader: I fear that really leaves a dist-upgrade as the most reasonable way to test thist [12:41] <lordievader> Suppose so. [12:41] <mparillo> Actually, I prefer what I seem to see on G+ to Facebook. That said, I posted to everybody, and after I did that, I did not see an option to share it to the community, as it was already shared to everybody. [12:42] <mparillo> Marcin Sągol seemed to share it to the community. [12:45] <Riddell> images are rebuilding! [12:48] <lordievader> Ahhh.... [12:55] <tuv0k> testers needed for final 15.04 candidate images and upgrades, join us in #kubuntu-devel to help out [12:56] <tuv0k> how can I test? [12:56] <Riddell> tuv0k: images are rebuilding, they should arrive soon and notification will be on this channel and here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds [12:56] <tuv0k> I'm already running 15.04 last update this morning [12:56] <Riddell> needs a reinstall to test the install :) [12:57] <tuv0k> format the drive or can I keep /home? [12:57] <Riddell> yes, if you install over the partition without formatting it'll remove /usr and /etc et al but keep /home and others [12:57] <tuv0k> cool [12:58] <mparillo> My 14.10 -> 15.04 upgrade was successful, so I have removed the section on updating 14.10 from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu [13:13] <Darkwing> Well, 15.04 hidpi is looking better [13:14] <Sick_Rimmit> Hola me lovelies [13:14] <Sick_Rimmit> I have a spanish friend who wants to know how to use Spanish characters in Ubuntu [13:14] <Sick_Rimmit> Is that done these days with the Input Switcher [13:14] <BluesKaj> Riddell, so the daily i just burned is already obsolete? [13:15] <lordievader> Ah new images. [13:15] <BluesKaj> yup, think the one I used is 20150421 [13:17] <Riddell> BluesKaj: zsync down the new one [13:18] <Riddell> hi hateball [13:18] <Riddell> hateball: download new iso images and install it so tick the boxes on iso.qa.ubuntu.com [13:20] <Darkwing> Scaling is still rough but, better than most [13:20] <Riddell> scaling? [13:20] <Riddell> high dpi? [13:21] <BluesKaj> Riddell, never used zsync before , zsync url to imagefile patrh ? [13:21] <Darkwing> Yeah [13:21] <hateball> Riddell: Alright! [13:21] <Darkwing> I've been bouncing around trying go find the best solution. [13:22] <Riddell> BluesKaj: zsync url here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds/92413/downloads [13:22] <Riddell> run zsync <url> and it'll sync into the file in the current directory [13:22] <hateball> Riddell: I was thinking if there was something related to testing certain apps or something, nothing like that? [13:22] <Riddell> Darkwing: lots of improvements in that but mostly missed in plasma 5.2, install plasma 5.3 may help, it also need lots of app changes which d_ed is working on [13:23] <Riddell> hateball: we need kontact tested on upgrade [13:24] <hateball> Riddell: Right, so it's purely KDE stuff, and not things like this (which is what I have encountered) https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344879 ? [13:24] <Darkwing> Riddell: the freaky thing is how bad in general support is. [13:29] <Darkwing> Gnome and gtk based systems handled it lazily [13:29] <Darkwing> Just doubled the scale. So, for a non macbook it was way too big or way too small [13:30] <Darkwing> Actually most did that, or ignored it [13:30] <Darkwing> Unity got it closest. The scaling slider was in much smaller increments [13:31] <Darkwing> But, I couldn't handle Unity any longer. [13:33] <BluesKaj> Riddell, brilliant, -o to the existing image too 2mins instead of 25 for a whole newone [13:33] <BluesKaj> took [13:34] <d_ed> Darkwing: open the fonts KCM, change "force fonts DPI" [13:34] <d_ed> that's basically the sliding scale unity has [13:34] <d_ed> GTK has the same, but under a property called TextScaling [13:35] <d_ed> this both is completely separate to the pixmap doubling, yet at the same time also very related [13:36] <Darkwing> d_ed I figured that out. [13:36] <Darkwing> Its nice [13:40] <d_ed> Darkwing: want to see the new config that will be there in 3 months? [13:40] <Riddell> d_ed: ooh ooh yes :) [13:40] <Darkwing> Yes please? :D [13:41] <BluesKaj> ok, here goes , gonna install the latest image to my other hdd, bbl [13:42] <Darkwing> Damn, quassel system is awesome. [13:43] <Darkwing> quasseldroid is so helpful [13:43] <tuv0k> its nice [13:44] <Riddell> bah, you can't get better than ssh on your phone into a screen session [13:44] <Darkwing> Lol I'm fond of guis [13:44] <d_ed> here you are: http://imgur.com/PcUnkDm [13:44] <Riddell> needing to type control-a 2 in a phone is just the ultimate security against people using it when your back it turned [13:45] <d_ed> only problem I'm stuck on is working how to gracefully ram this into the kscreen UI [13:45] <Darkwing> Screen doesn't notify my pebble [13:46] <Darkwing> d_ed why not run it in the display area? [13:47] <d_ed> it takes up too much space [13:48] <Riddell> d_ed: separate kcm? [13:48] <stoocot> Hi, I'm looking for information how to modify Breeze windows decorations under Plasma 5. I want to change size and color of the window border. Does anyone know how to do it? Settings present in the control panel are not sufficient for me. [13:51] <Riddell> stoocot: user support best in #kde and #kubuntu (cos I've no idea) [13:52] <stoocot> Breeze is almost perfect but with apps filling windows with their own background has two problems: [13:53] <stoocot> with no-border setting windows dialog box has no visible difference to the background window [13:54] <stoocot> with small border, dialog has 3-4 points wide, ugly white frame [13:55] <Darkwing> Only thing I want to do is move the buttons to the left. [13:55] <rdieter> stoocot: the size is modifiable, but not color (afaict) [13:56] <Riddell> the people who make it are visual design who are nice and responsive on forums.kde.org [13:56] <rdieter> oyxgen suffered the same issue (of borders not being distinguishable, but that may be feature rather than a bug) [13:57] <stoocot> Plastic decoration is better readable but it crashes kwin on opengl application closing... [14:02] <Riddell> hum, well I installed 14.10 and added an e-mail accounts and it won't even show the e-mail in kontact :( [14:02] <Riddell> let's see if an upgrade helps [14:04] <Riddell> ah, pressing the next button helps [14:04] <Riddell> ok upgrading now [14:07] <micmord> Riddell: testing a fresh install of the 92413 x86_64 iso on VirtualBox of my notebook I got problem (I/O error dev sr0) on final reboot, that after installation. I only have a screenshot. [14:07] <Riddell> micmord: that's a known issue, it works fine if you turn the machine off and on again? [14:07] * Riddell feels like the IT Crowd support team [14:08] <micmord> Riddell: I'll try [14:09] <sitter> Riddell: random question: how much work was 5.3beta? [14:10] <genii> Heh, "Have you tried turning off and back on again?" [14:11] <Riddell> sitter: 1 symbol update and a couple of working out where the git repo was [14:11] <Riddell> otherwise all good [14:11] <sitter> ohhhhh [14:11] <sitter> Riddell: where was the symbol [14:14] <Riddell> sitter: I forget I'm afraid, I can look it up once the upgrade is done [14:14] <Riddell> pmc is moaning about no mockcpp [14:14] <Riddell> and plasma-desktop about no packagekit of course [14:14] <Riddell> which we can actually fix easily I think [14:15] <Riddell> I had to add the about-data transitional to kinfocenter [14:15] <Riddell> and ksysguard needed a recompile cos it was using the old libksysguard, I guess the scripts need sorted to fix that build-dep version [14:16] <sitter> :O [14:16] <sitter> I think I had the transition for that in place [14:16] * sitter takes a looky [14:16] <micmord> Riddell: forcing a reboot all works smoothly. Well done guys [14:16] <sitter> Riddell: the script should have an extensive meeting with the bin [14:16] <Riddell> micmord: thanks for testing, do mark it on iso.qa.ubuntu.com [14:16] <sitter> redo using all the CI libraries because they do everything already [14:17] <sitter> like override missing cmake deps in a way that doesn't suck balls [14:17] <Riddell> sitter: I'll look forward to that :) [14:17] <Riddell> I think sgclark is having more problems with applications [14:17] <sitter> ah a transitional package [14:18] <Riddell> removed crash tracker (on qa.kubuntu.co.uk now) and removed plasma 5.3 backages [14:18] <sitter> Riddell: why did about-distro need a transitional package though? [14:18] <Riddell> sitter: to keep kubuntu-desktop metapackage happy for vivid upgrades [14:18] <sitter> ah, kubuntu-desktop [14:18] * sitter takes a note to add transitionals in the future [14:19] <sitter> actually it's interesting because I think the CI ISO explicitly seeds kubuntu-desktops so its odd that it worked there [14:20] <Riddell> it's a recommends I guess [14:20] <sitter> yeah [14:20] <sitter> ah well [14:20] <Riddell> so it must be muon that had the symbol change, that's the only other one with a ~ppa2 [14:20] <Riddell> or maybe bluez-qt [14:20] * sitter actually needs to write tech to stop things from building on certain series as to unblock installation tests :/ [14:21] <sitter> Riddell: I take it you didn't branch by date? [14:21] <Riddell> sitter: no, I just branched from kubuntu_stable [14:22] <sitter> bluez-qt had udev added by you [14:22] <sitter> muon had a new mo [14:22] <Riddell> hmm, maybe I just imagined the symbol update [14:23] <sitter> anyway, whatever the symbol thing was I presume itw as because you simply branched kubuntu_stable so it's this long standing problem that the CI branch might already be ahead of the tarball [14:23] <sitter> would either be solved by the merge tool I have half finished somewhere or CI orchestretrated release building [14:23] <sitter> whatever happens first I guess [14:23] <sitter> also releasme needs to be used to get rid of the arbitrary .mo changes :S [14:23] <sitter> soooooooooo much work [14:23] <Riddell> releaseme used how? [14:24] <sitter> to create the tarballs for CI [14:24] <sitter> so we have l10n [14:25] <sitter> which actually will probably need some fiddling in releasme because kde-apps do not put the translations in the app tarballs for some reason [14:25] <Riddell> kde-apps doesn't use releaseme [14:26] <sitter> Riddell: kde-applications [14:26] <sitter> ah well yes [14:26] <sitter> that is my point :P [14:26] <sitter> it is different precisely because it isn't using releaseme [14:41] <sgclark> Riddell: I am having probelms with timing. Ben wants to go live yesterday and everything green. This is taking everything I have. I am so sorry, I am trying to get back to apps when I can. [14:42] <Riddell> sgclark: don't appologise! the ci stuff is your priority right now :) [14:43] <sgclark> ty [14:47] <mitya57> Riddell: oh, http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.core/86778 became quite a long-ish thread. Will read it in the evening :) [14:49] <Riddell> yofel: kontact works good after an upgrade from 14.10, tested e-mail, contacts, to do and calendar [14:51] <yofel> hm yeah, I'm not sure how to reproduce this. Maybe by doing the upgrade, SIGKILL-ing mysqld and seeing what happens [14:51] <yofel> seems to be a weird corner case that happens if mysql 5.5 isn't cleanly shut down, upgraded to 5.6 (without running mysql_upgrade?) and ends up triggering a crash in innodb's error recovery [14:54] <Riddell> :( [14:57] <sgclark> oh yeah my kontact is busted [14:57] <yofel> define busted.. [14:58] <sgclark> akonadi is not operational [14:58] <yofel> *SIGH* [14:58] <Darkwing> Just installed the daily image for today, what needs to be tested? [14:58] <Darkwing> Hey yofel, long time mate [14:58] <yofel> hey Darkwing :) [14:58] <yofel> sgclark: what's in your ~/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err ? [15:00] <Riddell> Darkwing: add it to iso.qa.ubuntu.com please [15:00] <Darkwing> Kk [15:00] <sgclark> yofel: paste.ubuntu.com/10866478 [15:01] <yofel> sgclark: rm ~/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/ib_logfile* [15:01] <yofel> then try 'akonadictl start' [15:01] <yofel> bug 1437846 [15:03] <sgclark> yofel: that worked :) thanks! [15:11] <Riddell> rdieter: fedora beta looking good but the langauge selection tool likes to freeze lots [15:11] <rdieter> Riddell: thanks, I'll pass iton [15:14] <Riddell> rdieter: it worked it was just being very slow [15:14] <Riddell> now what's the secret to not having konsole crash on close?! [15:14] <rdieter> ok, I suspect it's UI for installing stuff in the background? [15:15] <yofel> it crashes? ^^ [15:15] <rdieter> Riddell: good question, never seen that before [15:15] <Riddell> rdieter: it seems to be using packagekit to install the language bits [15:15] <Riddell> yofel: doesn't it for you? just run it and close it and it crashes for me [15:15] <yofel> nope [15:16] <rdieter> in fairness, I don't use konsole much anymore (I live in yakuake most of the time) [15:16] <yofel> I rarlely use it though as I'm mostly in yakuake [15:16] <yofel> hehe [15:16] * rdieter high-fives yofel [15:17] <shadeslayer> I don't think many people use konsole directly :P [15:17] <shadeslayer> yakuake ftw [15:17] <Riddell> I'm yet to understand the attration of yakuake, maybe it's intended for people who don't do e-mail and irc through a terminal [15:17] <shadeslayer> ah you need them windows [15:18] <yofel> how does yakuake get in the way there? byobu does for me often with the keybindings, but yakuake is a non-issue [15:19] <Darkwing> Riddell, that's it for me. [15:19] <yofel> although even mutt works fine in byobu [15:20] <Riddell> Darkwing: what what? [15:21] <Darkwing> I don't do as much in konsole [15:21] <Darkwing> git and other stuff that way but, irc and email are full gui [15:22] * lordievader allways has atleast one Konsole window open. [15:22] <Riddell> bah, qgit for the win :) [15:44] <Riddell> Darkwing: muon-discover working for you? [15:44] <Darkwing> Have not checked it yet. [15:44] <Darkwing> Will do in a bit, making a bottle for the little one. [15:45] <Riddell> mparillo: you updated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu ? will you update the invoke the tool to be the notification same as on UtopicUpgrades? [15:46] <Riddell> lordievader: I don't get your autologin bug, oem install works pretty well for me [15:47] <mparillo> Riddell: Yes, I updated the Upgrade help page to remove the update 14.10 step, as I tested without it and it worked. I am not sure I understand your second question. [15:48] <lordievader> That's odd. I did get it with the new images... [15:48] <lordievader> Perhaps it is related to kvm/qemu? [15:48] <Riddell> mparillo: the alf-f2 section needs replaced with section 6 from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UtopicUpgrades/Kubuntu [15:49] <Riddell> alt-f2 [15:57] <BluesKaj> ok , on the latest daily ...a few crashes with system settings, but no freeezes so far...bbbiab [16:03] <Riddell> BluesKaj: please report to iso.qa [16:16] <Riddell> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ updated with better links for Vivid and Wobbly bugs [16:16] <Riddell> vivid now includes vivid-updates milestones [16:16] <Riddell> vivid now includes vivid-updates milestone and tagged kubuntu [16:16] <Riddell> Wobbly now includes 15.10 milestone tagged kubuntu [16:17] <yofel> wobbly? [16:18] <Riddell> the codename I just made up :) [16:18] <yofel> heh [16:21] <mparillo> The alt-f2 was the way I tested (and got screenshots). I see the section on the Utopic upgrade. But it looks as if the changes start in section 4? [16:22] <Riddell> mparillo: yes alt-f2 and running kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade is what you have to do before a release, after release time the notification will work so the instructions need to change [16:23] <Riddell> mparillo: section 4 and 5 are only relevant for an upgrade from LTS such as 14.04, we're doing an upgrade from normal 14.10 [16:23] <Riddell> so just copy the bits from section 6 [17:43] <Riddell> mparillo: you're on a testing roll :) [17:49] <mparillo> TY. I took a break to update the upgrade page. Now I will create a new 14.10 VM to test that the upgrade works by following the directions. [17:50] <Riddell> mparillo: remember to test the notification [17:50] <Riddell> mparillo: edit /etc/hosts add "212.13.202.11 changelogs.ubuntu.com" [17:51] <mparillo> Of course now the Baloo File error refuses to pop=up in today's testing. But I did get migrating the empty kwallet, which I did not notice yesterday. [17:51] <Riddell> it's weird that one [17:51] <mparillo> So I need to add that line and wait to see if the notification pops up? [17:51] <Riddell> add it and open Muon Update Thing [17:52] <mparillo> OK. Signing of this VM to create a new 14.10 one. [17:55] <Riddell> meh the kubuntu.org accouncement leaked onto the rss feed, if anyone asks if it's out, it's not [17:59] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: most likely the new site won't be up for the release [17:59] <ovidiu-florin> the sysadmins said [18:03] <Riddell> ok, here's the announce on the current site https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04 [18:03] <Riddell> please take a look, let me know if you need access [18:05] <Riddell> ahoneybun: I'm linking to https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Installation#Preparing_the_installation_media even though it's incomplete, it's probably the best we have [18:21] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: the title still says beta 2 [18:27] <Riddell> how's this? https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu-new2 [18:30] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: the announcement page: the last line, close the parenhesis [18:31] <mparillo> I added 212.13.202.11 changelogs.ubuntu.com at the end of /etc/hosts, but i only get "regular" software updates. [18:31] <ahoneybun> on the release notes Riddell? [18:50] <Riddell> ahoneybun: announce up at https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04 [18:50] <Riddell> ahoneybun: feel free to make edits, check with me and mparillo first [18:51] <Riddell> mparillo: wipe the cache in ~/.cache/update-manager-core/meta-release [18:51] * ahoneybun believes he does not have access [18:51] <Riddell> ahoneybun: also check over https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu-new2 [18:51] <soee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10867439/ [18:51] <Riddell> and comment on http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/15.04.png [18:53] <soee> W: Operation was interrupted before it could finish oO [18:53] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: use konqueror [18:55] <Riddell> http://www.itworld.com/article/2913377/linux/ubuntu-15-04-will-ship-with-canonicals-own-browser.html?page=2 "Kubuntu versus Ubuntu" "plasma 5 really caught my eye. To me it's the sexiest distro around" [18:55] <Riddell> mparillo: may be worth a wire post if you can make it not flame-bait [18:55] <genii> Heh [18:57] <Riddell> or just this directly http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/337mzx/why_ill_be_switching_to_kubuntufrom_ubuntu_come/ [18:57] <ahoneybun> Riddell: mparillo I'm going to fix some grammer [18:57] <Riddell> go for it [18:58] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I thought the nvidia-prime bug was fixe [18:58] <ahoneybun> *fixed [18:59] <Riddell> ahoneybun: where? [18:59] <ahoneybun> (1428328) nvidia-prime needs sddm support [18:59] <ahoneybun> remove? [18:59] <Riddell> ahoneybun: oh yes, please remove that [18:59] <Etriaph> Planet KDE tweeted the URL: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter [18:59] <ahoneybun> got it [18:59] <Etriaph> But it's inaccessible. [18:59] <Riddell> Etriaph: yeah my mistake sorry [18:59] <Etriaph> Just a heads up. [19:00] <Riddell> nothing I can do about it, there's some cache somewhere, it'll disappear at some point [19:00] <Etriaph> No need to apologize, just wanted to let you guys know. [19:01] <ahoneybun> We would like to thanks the whole of KDE's Plasma team for a beautiful new desktop. = We would like to thank the whole KDE Plasma team for a beautiful new desktop Riddell [19:01] <ahoneybun> going to change that [19:01] <Riddell> thanks [19:01] * Riddell head broken, going home, will log on later [19:02] * ahoneybun saves changes [19:02] * ahoneybun logs out [19:06] <ahoneybun> since that banner was made I'm guessing we are going to still be on the old site? [19:08] <soee> hmm still rightclick on desktop wont work for me [19:08] <yofel> WFM [19:09] <vip> soee: who needs rmb on desktop [19:09] <soee> also: [21:08] <soee> it is 5.3 feature that show desktop corner bind hides also panel ? [19:09] <soee> vip: me :) [19:09] <yofel> good question, I did see that but forgot about it.. [19:09] <vip> also as not working meta+shift, or, previously working "windows can cover" toolbar [19:10] <soee> can you test one more thing: right click on window decoration, More Actions -> Special Application Settings ... leads to kdeinit5 crash [19:11] <vip> soee: "Dodatkowe ustawienia programu"? [19:11] <vip> works for me [19:11] <soee> oO [19:12] <vip> soee: btw, which version you ask me to test? :) [19:12] <soee> vip: Vivid + Plasma 5.3beta [19:12] <vip> soee: ah so [19:13] <vip> vivid only, here [19:13] <soee> yofel: can you check [19:13] <soee> ? [19:13] <yofel> in ~2min [19:14] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: which banner? [19:14] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: [14:51] <Riddell> and comment on http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/15.04.png [19:15] <ahoneybun> its the size of the old site [19:15] <ovidiu-florin> yes [19:15] <ovidiu-florin> the sysadmins most likely won't get the new site up by release [19:15] <ovidiu-florin> bu we can't update our testbed site eighter [19:16] <yofel> soee: yep, kdeinit5 SEGV [19:16] <soee> ;( [19:17] <ahoneybun> eighter? [19:17] <ahoneybun> either? [19:17] <ovidiu-florin> no g [19:18] <soee> yofel: shall we report it somewhere ? [19:19] <yofel> soee: if you can yes [19:20] * yofel wonders why drkonqi says: "You cannot report this error, because kdeinit5 does not provide a bug reporting address." @_@ [19:20] <yofel> Riddell: ^ ? [19:27] <Riddell> yofel: upstream bug? [19:27] <yofel> in drkonqi? [19:28] <Riddell> I guess so, presumably you don't want to reporton kdeinit5 and drkonqi should be smart enough for that [19:29] <soee> yofel: teh bug shoudl go here https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=kdelibs&format=guided ? [19:29] <soee> component kdeinit ? [19:30] <yofel> not sure, there's XCB, kf5windowsystem and kwin in that, so one of them? [19:53] <mparillo> removing ~/.cache/update-manager-core/meta-release got me the "A new version of Kubuntu is available" in Muon Update Manager. I click on it, give it my password, but nothing happens. [19:55] <Riddell> um,ug [19:55] <Riddell> no update manager popping up? [19:56] <Riddell> run kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade then [20:16] <lucas_> ok [20:16] <lordievader> o/ [20:16] <lucas_> as you may know I was planing to do some promo video [20:16] <lucas_> and i made one [20:17] <Riddell> hi lucas_! [20:17] <Riddell> ooh [20:17] <lordievader> Whoop whoop [20:17] <lucas_> i am uploading it to you tube [20:17] <Riddell> awooga [20:17] <lucas_> so you can watch and comment [20:18] <lucas_> an we can eventually improve something [20:20] <lucas_> 5 minutes remaning [20:21] <lucas_> my internet connection sucks ;p [20:25] <shadeslayer> join the club [20:28] <lucas_> http://youtu.be/JkoGMb8N78M [20:28] <lucas_> ok please comment ;) [20:29] <Riddell> " [20:29] <Riddell> This video is private" [20:30] <Riddell> lucas_: ↑ [20:30] <lucas_> moment [20:31] <lucas_> https://youtu.be/JkoGMb8N78M [20:31] <lucas_> is it ok now? [20:32] <lordievader> Still private here. [20:32] <ovidiu-florin> when exactly will the release happen? [20:32] <Riddell> lucas_: still private [20:32] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: when all the flavours declare themselves ready [20:33] <Riddell> we usually aim for midday utc but it's often later [20:33] <lucas_> https://youtu.be/JkoGMb8N78M [20:33] <lucas_> now it is public [20:33] <Riddell> lucas_: yay [20:33] <lucas_> for sure [20:34] <ovidiu-florin> sound sounds broken [20:34] <ovidiu-florin> is it my computer? [20:34] <lucas_> well here is ok [20:34] <ovidiu-florin> ok [20:35] <Riddell> lucas_: that rocks :) [20:35] <ovidiu-florin> is the beginning of the sound in slow motion? [20:35] <lucas_> it is fade in [20:35] <ovidiu-florin> aha [20:35] <ovidiu-florin> then my ears are broken [20:35] <ovidiu-florin> :P [20:35] <Riddell> lucas_, ovidiu-florin: yep music sounds off key, maybe remove that effect? [20:35] <Riddell> lucas_: I'd rather the default wallpaper was used [20:36] <ovidiu-florin> lucas_: also, the text is sliding too fast [20:36] <Riddell> lucas_: what's the font used? oxygen or ubuntu font better [20:36] <KDDA> the sound seems to be like really slow at the beginning [20:36] <lucas_> oxygen [20:36] <ovidiu-florin> also some shaddow to the white text wouldn't hurt [20:37] <lordievader> lucas_: Isn't it a good idea to have the text slide from right to left? Now you see the last words first. [20:37] <Riddell> good point lordievader [20:37] <mparillo> lucas_: Wonderful work. A nice break from Stampy Longnose (the current YouTube favorite around here). [20:38] <lucas_> ok now problem [20:38] <ovidiu-florin> at 0:10 the text effect is the one you should use at 0:34 and 0:45 and 0:58 [20:38] <lucas_> text will be sliding from right to left now [20:38] <ovidiu-florin> also the www from the link at the end is not mandatory, but you can leave it [20:38] <Riddell> but aye, that's excellent as it is [20:38] <ovidiu-florin> uuuu, ad a caption to it [20:39] <ovidiu-florin> that floating box that you can click on [20:39] <ovidiu-florin> at the end [20:39] <lordievader> Jup, it is rather nice :D [20:39] <ovidiu-florin> and point it to the Kubuntu download page [20:39] <ovidiu-florin> lucas_: it's awesome [20:40] <ovidiu-florin> maybe take notes of our sugestions for future videos [20:40] <ovidiu-florin> :D [20:40] <ovidiu-florin> you got my like [20:40] <lordievader> +1 [20:41] <lucas_> sorry for the delay well english is not my native language so yuo know [20:41] <Riddell> hablo solo espanol [20:42] <lucas_> as for your suggestions I will try to incorporate them [20:42] <ovidiu-florin> lucas_: vorbești românește? [20:42] <lucas_> nope [20:42] <lucas_> polish ;p [20:42] <ovidiu-florin> lucas_: falo en portuges? [20:43] <ovidiu-florin> parle vous fancais? [20:43] * ovidiu-florin doesn't have the french keyboard layout [20:43] <Riddell> gin dobry, as my flatmates used to say [20:43] <ovidiu-florin> how can I find what version of Qtquick I have installed? [20:44] <lucas_> ok so things to improve text make it gray, and use different effect, something else? [20:44] <lucas_> ah music [20:44] <ovidiu-florin> don't make it gray [20:44] <lucas_> on the begining [20:44] <ovidiu-florin> it's awesome white [20:44] <ovidiu-florin> just add a shaddow [20:44] <Riddell> lucas_: no effect on music, use default Next wallpaper [20:45] <lucas_> ah about wallpaper [20:45] <ovidiu-florin> and use the effect from 0:10 [20:45] <lucas_> this is not possible I fear [20:45] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: how can I find what version of Qtquick I have installed? [20:46] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: apt-cache policy libqt5declarative5 [20:46] <ovidiu-florin> that's qt [20:46] <ovidiu-florin> not QtQuick [20:46] <Riddell> it's qtquick [20:47] <Riddell> which is part of qt [20:47] <ovidiu-florin> so use: import QtQuick 2.3 [20:47] <ovidiu-florin> QML is still a big mess in my head [20:49] <lucas_> Riddell: I choose this wallpaper because the default one was well ugly, and this green is was also used here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n2dthDSGkc ( this is official video from the Plasma 5.0) [20:49] <ovidiu-florin> I don't think using the default wallpaper is mandatory [20:50] <Riddell> it's not mandatory but it's good to keep consistent for branding [20:50] <Riddell> and it's a thing of beauty! [20:50] <lucas_> this green is a part of default plasma packages [20:50] <Riddell> I know [20:51] <lucas_> and the default wallpaper from plasma 5.2 was replaced in 5.3 [20:51] <lucas_> whereas it should stay at least to plasma 5.4 [20:53] <lucas_> as far as I remember default wallpaper is changed after two major releases [20:54] <lucas_> and well you really do not want comments about default wallpaper ( ugly etc) [20:55] <Riddell> shrug, as you wish :) [20:55] <ovidiu-florin> open the add new widget from the panel settings [20:56] <ovidiu-florin> type something in the search box [20:56] <lucas_> but the main reason is that I would need to record all the material once again [20:56] <ovidiu-florin> can you? I can't [20:58] * ovidiu-florin ZZZZZZzzzzzz....... [20:58] <soee> ovidiu-florin: i can in 5.3 [20:59] <ovidiu-florin> I have 5.2.2 [20:59] <Riddell> lucas_: fair enough :) [21:02] <ovidiu-florin> what do I do if the author of a plasmoid does not reply? [21:02] <ovidiu-florin> I can fork it wright? [21:02] <ovidiu-florin> right*.... [21:02] <ovidiu-florin> my spelling is off today [21:03] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: depends on the situation, where is it now? [21:03] <ovidiu-florin> where is what? [21:03] <ovidiu-florin> the plasmoid is here: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?action=content&content=152082 [21:04] <ovidiu-florin> but is broken in Qt5 land [21:04] <ovidiu-florin> I've partially fixed it in my install [21:06] <Riddell> "Updated: Jul 5 2012" yeah I think you can fork that :) [21:06] <Riddell> just e-mail the author to let them know [21:07] <ovidiu-florin> Thanks [21:07] <ovidiu-florin> I'm off to bed [21:07] <ovidiu-florin> Good night [21:07] <Riddell> night ovidiu-florin [21:07] <Riddell> sweet dreams [21:19] <Riddell> hi frecel, excited about the release? [21:24] * KDDA dances [21:24] <KDDA> Im so excited, I just cant hide it [21:24] <Riddell> whee! [21:25] <soee> KDDA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDRke6Gu3nM [21:25] <soee> ah no, it was it https://vimeo.com/40987079 [21:26] <KDDA> LOL [22:05] <lucas_> ok gonna uploading improved video [22:11] <Riddell> lucas_++ [22:11] * shadeslayer is so tired [22:16] <frecel> Riddell: you know it [22:19] <lucas_> Riddell: almost there [22:23] <lucas_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cinHeN9YLLo&feature=youtu.be [22:26] <Riddell> ooh! [22:26] <lucas_> something wrong? [22:27] <Riddell> lucas_: genius :) [22:27] <Riddell> nope it's perfect, I'm just excited :) [22:29] <lucas_> glad you like it ;) [22:30] <lucas_> just curious, are you going to post this video on your website or something ;p? [22:31] <Riddell> lucas_: on the announcement if I can work out how [22:32] <Riddell> oh yes it works :) [22:33] <lucas_> ^^ [22:33] <Riddell> for those with access https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04 [22:33] <Riddell> muchas gracias lucas_, that's awesome [22:34] <valorie> lol, sgclark: https://plus.google.com/+BenLandin/posts/PgFmAFSNHKS [22:34] <valorie> our own release party this weekend! [22:34] * sgclark looks [22:35] <sgclark> :) [22:35] <Riddell> party party party [22:36] <lucas_> Riddell: no problem [22:42] <lucas_> ok time to go for me so, see you later [22:42] <Riddell> thanks much lucas_,sleep well [22:42] <Riddell> the world will party for kubuntu tomorrow [22:43] <lucas_> hehe ;) [22:45] <frecel> valorie: If you bump into Ben at LFNW tell him that frecel is saying hi [22:46] <valorie> which Ben is that? [22:46] <valorie> frecel? [22:46] <valorie> I "bump into" almost everybody at the KDE/Ubuntu table [22:46] <frecel> Ben Landin, the guy whos g+ post you linked [22:47] <valorie> or rather, they bump into us [22:54] <frecel> valorie: well in that case you can tell everyone that frecel is saying hi :D [22:55] <valorie> lol [23:05] <sgclark> valorie: what is the weather like up there? [23:25] * ahoneybun has a tech night out tomorrow and is going to bring Ubuntu stickers with him. [23:45] <valorie> sgclark: not warm (55F) but sunny [23:45] <valorie> snowing fir pollen though [23:46] <sgclark> ahh fun [23:46] <sgclark> I am sure I will be one pile of sneezes lol [23:51] <sgclark> ahh the new installer looks lovely [23:55] <valorie> updating the poor lil netbook [23:55] <valorie> it can at least write USB [23:55] <valorie> and be used for checking out krita

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.295710

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-br

[00:10] <AlexandreMBM> Alguém sabe dizer se X2Go, na configuração padrão, é criptografado por túnel SSH? [00:11] <astroo-> da uns 15 minutos pela possivel resposta de alguem [00:14] <astroo-> Ubuntu 15.04: Desktop, Phone and IoT; towards a converged future https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/21/ubuntu-15-04-desktop-phone-and-iot-towards-a-converged-future/ [01:17] <idobrt> olá boa noite. Estou com um problema no wireless do unbutu 14.04 que fica caindo toda hora. Já tentei várias soluções na net e n obtive sucesso. Alguém ai sabe como resolver? uso um modem wireless usb [01:17] <astroo-> ola [01:17] <astroo-> diz que chip e [01:19] <idobrt> é um TPlink a referência é TLWN821N [01:20] <astroo-> da uns 15 minutos pela possivel resposta de alguem [01:21] <idobrt> ok [01:21] <idobrt> tomara que a net n caia ^^ [01:21] <astroo-> vai tentando com o tempo [01:22] <astroo-> se alguem responder depois eu dou-te [01:23] <lieber> idobrt, o sinal está bom? [01:23] <oferinha30000> boa noite. [01:24] <astroo-> ola [01:25] <oferinha30000> Quero aprender a manusear esse sistema. Pois só sei Windows. Tem algum material que vcs possam disponibilizar para aprender a usar? [01:25] <idobrt> lieber:sim [01:25] <astroo-> primeiro usa o livecd sem instalar para testes [01:26] <idobrt> lieber:caia a conexão mas é como se estivesse conectado pois o status n altera [01:27] <idobrt> lieber: preciso desconectar e conectar até conseguir [01:30] <lieber> idobrt, dá um ping no google aí e vê se tá perdendo pacote [01:30] <lieber> idobrt $ ping www.google.com -c 10 [01:33] <idobrt> lieber: 100% [01:33] <idobrt> lieber:sem perdas [01:35] <lieber> idobrt, e quando a internet cai, a wifi continua vendo o roteador? [01:36] <lieber> brb [01:36] <idobrt> lieber: sim [02:53] <astroo-> ciao pessoal [04:28] <Predator_> Boa noite srs [04:28] <Predator_> Acessando o canal pela primeira vez [04:29] <Predator_> depois de uns bons 13 anos sem acessar o IRC [04:36] <Predator_> Gostaria de saber se a maoria dos usuarios do Ubuntu preferem o Unity? [09:37] <Diego__> Bom dia [09:42] <Diego__> alguem pode me ajudar com o uefi [09:42] <Diego__> ja desabilitei mais mesmo assim não cosigo dar boot [09:46] <Diego__> bom dia [10:33] <diego__> bom dia [10:37] <barna> dia [10:39] <diego__> ola tudo bem [10:39] <diego__> sera que voce pode me ajudar [10:39] <diego__> estou tendo problema pra instlar o ubuntu no meu not [10:40] <diego__> ja desativei p uefi e secure boot mais mesmo assim não consigo dar boot no ubuntu [10:43] <barna> ixxxi, isso e osso, ja tiver altos problemas com uefi [10:43] <barna> diego__, qual o seu note? [10:44] <diego__> é um positivo z3020 w8, processsador atom , 1 gb ram e 16 de hd [10:44] <barna> qual ubuntu vc ta tentando instalar? [10:46] <diego__> ja tentei o 14.10 e o 14.04 [10:46] <diego__> nenhum da boot [10:47] <barna> diego__, vc ta tentando por pendrive ou cdrom? [10:48] <diego__> pen drive [10:49] <diego__> esse not é um hibrido tablet e not [10:49] <barna> diego__, como q vc fez esse pendrive? [10:50] <diego__> com o rufus 2.1 [10:50] <barna> massa, [10:51] <barna> diego__, ja vc testou em outro computador pra ver se ta funcionando? [10:51] <diego__> no meu pc de mesa funciona ele não tem uefi ai funciona normal [10:52] <barna> diego__, massa, então já eliminamos um problema, 90% das vezes ta ai o erro. [10:52] <diego__> no meu pc de mesa funciona ele não tem uefi ai funciona normal os [10:52] <barna> diego__, como q vc ta fazendo pra dar boot pelo pendrive? [10:53] <diego__> selecionando o pen drive na bios pra dar boot [10:53] <diego__> ai ele inicia e volta pra bios [10:53] <diego__> como se nao tivece nenhum boot no pen [10:54] <diego__> qunado ativo o w8 ai ele entra no win , mais o ubuntu nunca entra em boot [10:55] <barna> diego__, 1 seg, vo dar boot e volto! [10:55] <diego__> ja tentei ate o kurumin 7 e não foi kkkkk [10:58] <barna> voltei [10:58] <barna> to apanhando pra instalar o ardour aki. [10:58] <diego__> to desistindo de instalar aquui o ubuntu [10:59] <barna> diego__, kra tempos atraz eu sofri pra instalar um ubuntu num dell, pra dar boot pelo pen foi osso, [10:59] <barna> o lance é q os kras fizeram um sistema pra deixar super dificil mesmo vc largar do ruindows. [11:00] <barna> diego__, atualmente eu num tenho nenhum comp com uefi, vo acha uns tutoriais q me ajudaram aki e te passar e ficar aki pra ir te ajudando nos passos. [11:01] <barna> eu nao achei nada na web expecifico sobre o seu note + ubuntu, na verdade quase num achei nada sobre o positivo z3020 em si. [11:02] <barna> diego__, http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/dica/Dual-boot-Ubuntu-1404-Windows-8-UEFI-completo [11:03] <diego__> eu omprei ele pra programar porq e pequeno e leve posso trabalhar em qualquer lugar so que precisava rodar um serve linux poriso queria aqui [11:04] <diego__> vou tentar esse tutu vou ficar aqui e te dou noviddes obrigado [11:06] <barna> massa, diego__ só um conselho se vc tiver procurando um sistema estavel vai no ubuntu 14.04, se vc tiver querendo novidades e não tiver problemas em se deparar com alguns bugs vai no 14.10 [11:06] <barna> falando nisso o 15.04 deve tar quase saindo do forno. [11:21] <barna> vo ali comprar pão pra fazer um lanche, volto em 15min. [11:59] <barna> alguem usa ardour 3 ? to tento problemas de memlock aki [14:09] <xGrind> aow [14:09] <xGrind> o Ubuntu 15.04 sai amanha? [14:23] <barna> normalmente é lá pelo dia 20 q sai, imagino q teja quase lá [17:01] <CyberWorld> Boa tarde galera como vcs estão ? [17:22] <newuser> ola boa tarde, como eu esecuto o ubunto no computador, acabei de baixalo [17:33] <neto> alguuem? [17:34] <neto> grub rescue file /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal not found [17:36] <neto> ? [17:36] <amarelinho_EMO> CyberWorld: vivos ainda [17:36] <neto> pode me ajudar? [17:37] <CyberWorld> amarelinho_EMO: eheuheuhe [17:37] <CyberWorld> neto: no caso vc quer executalo em modo bootavél ou em modo de virtualização ? [17:38] <neto> to executando normal [17:38] <neto> to com o live cd [17:38] <neto> normal ele nao inicia [17:38] <neto> nem o win nem o linux [17:38] <neto> tendeu [17:39] <CyberWorld> neto: tentou verificar se o computador ta tentando ler o drive de onde o arquivo tá, sendo ele CD ou pen-drive ? [17:39] <neto> como vejo isso? [17:40] <neto> ja tentei grub update [17:40] <neto> grub reinstall [17:40] <neto> e nada.. [17:41] <CyberWorld> neto: pelo setup do seu computador, acessando ele na inicialização do computador, vc tem que pressionar a tecla Delete ou F2 (F2 sendo mais acessado por notbooks) [17:41] <neto> ok [17:41] <CyberWorld> vou te mandar um video de como fazer esse procedimento [17:41] <neto> menu do boot ne [17:41] <CyberWorld> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJa3Wj2CRhY [17:41] <neto> ta lendo 1 o hd [17:42] <neto> dps o drive [17:42] <CyberWorld> neto: sim [17:42] <CyberWorld> neto: entao vc tem que colocar o pen drive em primeiro plano e depois o hd, as medias removiveis tem q está em primeiro plano [17:42] <neto> mas nao to executando pelo pen drive [17:42] <neto> to com o cd agora [17:43] <CyberWorld> neto: entao vc tem q colocar a leitora de CD em primeiro plano, lembrando que vc tem q indentificar ela pelo nome caso vc tenha 2 leitoras [17:43] <neto> ai ele começou a ler o live cd [17:45] <CyberWorld> neto: entao ta blz dai em diante é só fazer a instalação q o linux faz o resto [17:45] <CyberWorld> =D [17:46] <neto> da ultima vez q tentei travou [17:49] <neto> meu leitor ta parecendo um carro se desmontando [17:52] <CyberWorld> kkkk [17:52] <CyberWorld> tenta fazer por pen drive mesmo [17:52] <CyberWorld> executa mais rapido [17:52] <CyberWorld> e tem menos erros [17:52] <CyberWorld> fora o nivel de fragmentação ser bem baixo [18:07] <neto> mas no pen drive ele nao pergunta onde instalar o linux [18:16] <CyberWorld> opções avançada pow [18:21] <CyberWorld> Galera tenho um serviço empresarial pra fazer [18:21] <CyberWorld> formatação, backup, criação de perfil, impressora e talz [18:21] <CyberWorld> to cobrando 100 conto de cada maquina [18:21] <CyberWorld> ta barato ou ta caro ? [18:40] <converge> alguem sabe pq estou recebendo a mensagem que nao ha espaco no disco aqui ? http://paste.debian.net/168327/ [18:49] <Elfon> Pessoal, alguém faz idéia pq os arquivos no gscan2pdf ficam tão grandes? coloquei a mesma configuração do Win e o arquivo ficou 5 vezes maior [19:57] <Ubuntu-BR> converge: eu não sei, mas pq vc não executa: $ sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get autoremove ? [19:58] <converge> Ubuntu-BR: acho q resolvi com apt-get install -f [19:58] <converge> provavel q tinha algum pacote quebrado [19:58] <Ubuntu-BR> isso eu ia tb dizer isso [19:58] <Ubuntu-BR> $ sudo apt-get --list-cleanup -f update [19:59] <Ubuntu-BR> $ sudo apt-get -f install [20:14] <link123> pessoal, quem vai atualizar para o 15.04? Ele sai amanhã? [20:29] <converge> Ubuntu-BR: valeu! [20:41] <astroo-> ola pessoal [21:00] <diego_> boa noite [21:01] <astroo-> ola [21:01] <diego_> ainda não consegui dr boot no ubuntu pelo meu not [21:01] <diego_> ja desativei o secure e mesmo assim não da , minha bios nao tem opção para desabilitar uefi [21:04] <astroo-> complicado [21:06] <diego_> serah que se euu entra em contato com a positivo eles ajudam [21:06] <diego_> e foda não ter opção pra desabilitar isso não posso instalar nenhuma sistema aqui , nada da boot [21:08] <Rudolf> diego_: não ajudam [21:09] <Rudolf> diego_: alias, vão rir da sua cara [21:09] <astroo-> vai tentando a pergunta ao longo do tempo aqui de 30 a 30 minutos [21:10] <Elfon> diego_: que eu saiba...o secure boot é suportado oficialmente pelo Ubuntu e Opensuse [21:10] <Elfon> se vc quiser pode fazer um teste com live cd/dvd do opensuse [21:11] <Rudolf> diego_: vai tentando empiracamente, uma hora vc consegue [21:11] <Elfon> vai de boa sem precisar fazer nada [21:11] <Rudolf> diego_: ou procure uma documentação [21:11] <Rudolf> diego_: que lhe apoie de forma incisiva [21:11] <Elfon> diego_: mas lembre-se de fazer back up [21:11] <Elfon> bom [21:11] <Elfon> inté a todos [21:11] <Elfon> fui [21:11] <astroo-> ate [21:12] <astroo-> tentaste o livecd da versao 15 beta? [21:22] <diego_> ele nao da boot nenhuma nenhum sistema operacionau [21:22] <diego_> e e nao tem leitor de cd so pen drive [21:23] <astroo-> ok e o mesmo [21:25] <diego_> vo ver o opensuse [21:39] <diego_> acho q descobri [21:39] <diego_> nesse meu not e considerado um table not [21:39] <diego_> ele nao tem hd e sim memoria flash porisso nao da boot [21:40] <diego_> so pode ser formatado pelo win [21:40] <diego_> so pode ser formatado pelo win ? [21:41] <astroo-> deve haver programas para tal [21:42] <diego_> ja to tentando a uma semana não da ele nao entra em boot [21:42] <diego_> so da boot com o android ai ele reconhece [22:04] <hggdh> quit [23:40] <dk_millares> boa noite [23:41] <astroo-> ola

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.313821

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-locoteams

[05:12] <Kilos> hi nhaines and all others , we will have no power today , so ill see you when it returns [05:12] <Kilos> have a great day [07:11] <dholbach> good morning [07:12] <Kilos> hi dholbach [07:12] <Kilos> ty for pointing me to the council [07:14] <Kilos> they all seem satisfied with our site, so only canonical legal guys to check with now [07:15] <Kilos> im happy the site has pulled in 2 new peeps to #ubuntu-africa but i think they are french so now i just have to get the other french guys online at the same time hehe [07:19] <dholbach> hi Kilos [07:19] <dholbach> nice :) [12:00] <Kilos> hi TaeheeJang [12:00] <TaeheeJang> Kilos: hi Kilos have a good day~ [12:00] <Kilos> yes ty and you? [12:02] <TaeheeJang> I'm keep studying for my college test until this friday.. lol [12:02] <Kilos> good, work hard [12:02] <Kilos> and good luck [12:02] <TaeheeJang> yes thank you. [18:00] <Kilos> hi toddy and toddc [18:00] <toddy> hi Kilos [18:01] <Kilos> and pleia2 also as well too [19:40] <toddc> hello Kilos and everyone else and plea2 also [19:40] <Kilos> hehe [19:40] <Kilos> all good? [19:40] <toddc> :) [19:40] <Kilos> :D [21:00] <ubuntiste-msakni> Hey! :D [21:03] <Kilos> hi

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.317515

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-desktop

[08:15] <Sweet5hark> Goooood morning, desktoppers! [08:16] <Sweet5hark> You write C or C++? You want to have opinionated discussions with your compiler? Or just be scared by what "undefined behaviour" really means? Read this: http://blog.llvm.org/2011/05/what-every-c-programmer-should-know_14.html [08:16] <Sweet5hark> desrt: as discussed yesterday ^^ [08:30] <Laney> seb128: some new comments in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/whoopsie/+bug/1437633 [08:30] <Laney> if you're interested [08:30] <seb128> Laney, I am, thanks [08:45] <ochosi> Sweet5hark: ouch, that really *is* scary [08:50] <Sweet5hark> ochosi: hrhr, yeah -- an unrelated bug might cause your guards to be happily optimized away ... [08:53] <ochosi> Sweet5hark: yeah, i'm trying to forget that again now so that i can continue to live happily (more or less) [08:54] <Sweet5hark> also: you put your best coders on the security relevant code and they do all h. but then your less experienced coders use that code and since you [08:56] * desrt drops https://wiki.gnome.org/RyanLortie/BugsInC [08:56] <Sweet5hark> also: you put your best coders on the security relevant code and they do all the checks and guards. And then your less experienced coders use that code, have undefed behaviour around it, and since its inlined, the guards/checks get optimized out .... [09:01] <ogra_> Laney, seb128 ... [09:01] <ogra_> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ sudo whoopsie-preferences [09:01] <ogra_> Could not write configuration: Failed to create file '/etc/whoopsie.LRHGXX': Read-only file system [09:01] <ogra_> Lost the name: com.ubuntu.WhoopsiePreferences [09:02] <ogra_> that is with the fix ... that cant really work :/ [09:02] <ogra_> talking about bug 1437633 [09:03] <ogra_> could we move the file to /etc/whoopsie/whoopsie ? [09:03] <ogra_> or some such [09:08] <Laney> ogra_: read like 5 lines above your sentence :-) [09:08] <ogra_> Laney, ah, heh, i'm blind [09:08] <Laney> are you talking about the rtm or the vivid version? [09:08] <Laney> vivid I guess [09:08] <ogra_> rtm is dead [09:08] <Laney> nice [09:08] <Laney> NICE [09:09] <ogra_> (unless there is somethin super critical found) [09:09] <Laney> so I didn't work on the vivid implementation & assume Seb is looking at it [09:09] <Laney> wait for him I guess [09:09] <ogra_> but then only a fix for that one thing would land ... else we'll wait for vivid stabilization now [09:15] <Sweet5hark> desrt: all those are resolved in C++11 at least, #justsayin' [09:28] <desrt> larsu: can you take a glance at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744282 before i push? [09:29] <desrt> since nobody really properly reviewed this yet -- only tested it [09:29] <larsu> desrt: new dotty record! [09:29] <larsu> desrt: I mean: sure, no problem [09:30] <desrt> larsu: sounds like i pinged at a good time ;) [09:32] <Sweet5hark> larsu: di da dotty (sing this to the melody of schni schna schnappy) [09:32] <larsu> shit. instant earworm [09:32] <larsu> THANKS Sweet5hark [09:33] <desrt> sure glad i didn't get this when i'm a kid [09:33] <larsu> desrt: you're sentence didn't made any sense grammatic [09:33] <desrt> i know [09:33] <desrt> i knew it as i was typing it [09:33] <desrt> was too lazy to fix it [09:34] <larsu> I didn't get this as a kid either [09:34] <larsu> it's not that old [09:35] <larsu> "which is nice" <-- actual fragment from desrt's commit message [09:36] <Sweet5hark> we totally need a commit message of the year competition [09:37] <larsu> desrt: setting GPtrArray.pdata directly is smelly [09:44] <desrt> there is no API to do that [09:44] <desrt> but i could change it to run over the array and dup it after i free the ptrarray [09:44] <desrt> but.... why? [09:44] <desrt> smell-avoidance? [09:45] <Sweet5hark> doesnt gcc have a deodorant plugin for smell avoidance? [10:38] <seb128> ogra_, yeah, it's annoying, whoopsie edit the file in a safe way, e.g to the create a new file and rename way [10:38] <seb128> ogra_, which of course doesn't work with our ro fs [10:39] <ogra_> right, that is fine as ling as we can do it in a subdir [10:39] <ogra_> *long [10:39] <ogra_> (which i actually thought it did ... i understood /etc/whoopsie to be a dir in your patch) [10:45] <seb128> ogra_, so maybe my patch is wrong, it's a file [10:45] <seb128> ogra_, I though you could list specific files in writable-paths [10:45] <ogra_> seb128, yes, you can ... [10:45] <seb128> k, so it's a file [10:45] <ogra_> but for atomic writes you would need /etc writable [10:45] <seb128> I guess we would need to change whoopsie then [10:45] <seb128> to write to a subdir [10:46] <ogra_> yeah [10:47] <seb128> it's a bit suboptimal that we need to change whoopsie just to workaround design limitation of our ro images [10:47] <seb128> we need a proper overlayfs ;-) [10:48] <seb128> bregma, could somebody from your team look at bug #1405349? I guess that's one for andyrock (I would ping him but he's not on IRC it seems?) [10:59] <mhall119> bregma: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22447/user-documentation-for-unity-8/ [11:07] <seb128> happyaron, what's the status of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/1439202 ? [11:08] <happyaron> seb128: cannot determine which side is wrong yet, but traces down to glib... [11:08] <seb128> happyaron, you have desrt 1.5m away from you if needed ;-) [11:08] <happyaron> yep, :) [11:09] <happyaron> seb128: will deal with that a bit later, struggling with canonistack atm [11:09] <seb128> k, thanks [11:10] <happyaron> it's stucking my instance, hope it won't get swallowed [11:18] <ogra_> seb128, why would you add that patch to systemd ? systemd isnt used on phones [11:19] <seb128> ogra_, I said a similar change to whoopsie, to rename the file in /etc/writable rather than /etc [11:19] <ogra_> oops,, sorry [11:19] <ogra_> yeah [11:29] <Riddell> didrocks: what is ubuntu-desktop-next? [11:30] <didrocks> Riddell: it's the experimental unity8 image we had in the past, I guess the first image was about 18 months ago [11:31] <didrocks> Riddell: are you going to review my changes? :) [11:35] <Riddell> didrocks: I wouldn't trust myself to be able to :) [14:40] <Sweet5hark> pitti: about bug 1443667, the cause of this is http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git/commit/?h=debian-experimental-4.4&id=b0002aad6276ac1f21828e5bea1d4c319a345b58 which has been around since libreoffice 4.4.0 and _rene_ says "its only a dir, so dpkg shouldnt care" ... [14:42] <Sweet5hark> ... never seen that happen for an update here either. Sure can add a B/R, but am unsure on how to verify the fix ... [14:43] * Sweet5hark should maybe try a manual update sequence to trigger this. [14:43] <pitti> Sweet5hark: does that also apply to an utopic->vivid upgrade, or only intra-vivid? [14:46] <Sweet5hark> pitti: I assume it might also affect utopic->vivid. change was in the first version of 4.4.0. [14:47] <Sweet5hark> pitti: But in that case it should have possibly affected every update from libreoffice 4.3 to 4.4, so I wonder if this is some kind of heisenbug. [14:48] <pitti> Sweet5hark: it depends on the unpack order really [14:49] <Sweet5hark> pitti: yep, that makes it so much "fun" ... [14:53] <Sweet5hark> pitti: heh. _rene_ now wants to put the symlink back to -common, while keeping the dir in -core. (change was done for https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=775150 btw) [14:53] <pitti> Sweet5hark: hm; please don't keep replacing dirs with symlinks or vice versa, that confuses dpkg [14:55] <Sweet5hark> pitti: well, if I wouldnt sync from debian, there wouldnt be any symlinks and wild moving around of dirs anyway. [14:56] * Sweet5hark isnt a fan of this symlinking and moving either. [14:57] * ogra_ is looking forward to a snap/click of openoffice ... that will never have such issues :) [15:00] <Sweet5hark> ogra_: thats true. because there will never be any updates of openoffice anyway. security or otherwise. [15:01] <ogra_> Sweet5hark, so you plan to stop maintaining it ? [15:02] <Sweet5hark> I stopped maintaining openoffice four years ago ... [15:04] <ogra_> lol [15:04] <ogra_> my brain stopped switching to the right name years ago too it seems [15:04] <ogra_> sorry :) [15:05] <Sweet5hark> ogra_: np [15:05] * Sweet5hark now carries on with breaking libreoffice ... [15:07] <Sweet5hark> pitti: sooo, I agreed with _rene_ that we just add a replaces vs. -common for -core. Is the breaks: really needed? Neither _rene_ nor me see a reason for that. [15:08] <pitti> Sweet5hark: it might work without, it's just standard practice so that apt unpacks the newer version of the broken package first [15:08] <pitti> but if you try to replace a symlink with a dir you need a preinst anyway, and hten definitifely a breaks [15:09] <Sweet5hark> pitti: nono, we are not replacing the dir with a symlink [15:09] <pitti> (not sure which way aroud you changed things, only following with half a brain cell) [15:13] <Sweet5hark> pitti: /usr/lib/libreoffice/share/uno_packages moved from -common (in 4.3) to -core (in 4.4). _rene_ assumed the dir to be empty (and thus needing no replaces:), but its not as there is a symlink called "cache" in it. So just adding a "Replaces: libreoffice-common (<< $ver)" in libreoffice-core should make this work out. [15:15] <Sweet5hark> heh, as it goes there is a Replaces: in there already anyway, just needs the version bumped ... [16:08] <Sweet5hark> seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/vivid/4.4.2/libreoffice_4.4.2-0ubuntu2_source.changes no l10n update needed, no sign-all needed [16:16] <seb128> Sweet5hark, uploaded [16:19] <Sweet5hark> seb128: thx [16:19] <seb128> Sweet5hark, yw!

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.322564

2015-04-22-#xubuntu-devel

[02:05] <bluesabre> did we ever get a rebuild today? [02:07] <bluesabre> looks like no [02:08] <bluesabre> imma rebuild now then :) [02:08] <bluesabre> anybody around to see the flames? [02:08] <bluesabre> Unit193: ? [02:14] <bluesabre> requested a rebuild, not sure if it worked :) [02:35] <Unit193> bluesabre: WHAT YOU WANT? [02:35] <Unit193> :P [02:36] <Unit193> bluesabre: Well, was waiting for ubiquity or casper, but oh well. :D [03:03] <Unit193> bluesabre: [23:03:15] < jderose> is it expected that when doing a vivid encrypted home folder install (ecryptfs), grub should prompt you for a passphrase at boot? [04:35] <bluesabre> sounds like fun [04:36] <bluesabre> but for now [04:36] <bluesabre> zzz [05:09] <Unit193> Wow, you waz up late. [05:12] <Unit193> elfy: It works now, live session. [05:15] <Unit193> Power down, not so much. [05:17] <Unit193> http://i.imgur.com/5lKpLi5.png [06:18] <elfy> Unit193: didn't get that [06:24] <elfy> 32 and 64 bit vbox - boot, fail to shutdown [06:25] <elfy> 64 bit doesn't start to desktop [06:26] <elfy> ^^ kvm [06:31] <elfy> mmm [06:31] <elfy> in kvm - both start and shutdown if you start 'try' from the boot menu [06:40] <ochosi> elfy: i got the same thing like Unit193 yesterday when i tried a 32bit image [06:41] <elfy> ochosi: ack [06:42] <elfy> I 'think' all the fixes they were getting in yesterday before a global rebuild didn't happen [06:46] <ochosi> sounds quite probable [06:46] <elfy> hard to tell from the backlog [06:51] <elfy> hardware works at least [06:59] <elfy> I wonder if all the breakage would miraculously stop if the went back to upstart :D [07:28] <elfy> looks like a hands in the air and wander off muttering response to vbox fails :D [07:36] <astraljava> Yeah I need to do some reading up on why we went with systemd and abandoned upstart. [07:36] <elfy> because we follow Debian [07:37] <astraljava> Right, but by 'we' I mean the whole ecosystem. :p [07:39] <astraljava> I remember catching some heated convos about it on some mailing list, but the concrete details was left in the shadows, and instead it quickly deteriorated into the usual banter on why you suck because you support the different technical solution. [07:40] <astraljava> *details were [07:46] <Unit193> Good luck. [08:01] <astraljava> Why, you don't think the agreement was easily reached? That's so hard to believe, when it comes to Debian. *blink* *blink* [08:10] <Unit193> Months of 'further "discussion"', thread after thread after flamewar. [08:12] <astraljava> Ok, I'll just look into stackexchange.com for a comparison, someone's bound to have done that. :p [08:13] <Unit193> Meh, going in we all knew they were going to pick systemd anyway. Kind of miss the stability of upstart though. [08:13] <astraljava> Right, I never did get that familiar with the core bits. [12:01] <elfy> world is rebuilding currently [12:02] <elfy> also as I intimated earlier - if there are vbox issues are going to remain [13:52] <astraljava> "elfy | world is rebuilding currently" - How fitting, on Earth Day even. [15:44] <elfy> world rebuilt [15:44] <elfy> just smokescreening everything right now [17:16] <KW4HK> smokescreening? [17:19] <elfy> yep - trying desperately to cover everything in a cloud of black smoke so we can release regardless [17:19] <elfy> obviously meant smoke testing [17:34] <elfy> knome: you say yes - but the release team might pull back and say no :D [18:10] <knome> elfy, yes for what? :) [18:15] <elfy> Quick question is Xubuntu 15.04 going to be released on April 23, 2015? [18:15] <elfy> :D [18:15] <knome> hah [18:15] <knome> well, [18:15] <knome> that's to the best of my knowledge atm.. [18:15] <elfy> ha [18:16] <elfy> just about to pull together what I know [19:36] <elfy> sent a sort of 'where we are' mail now [19:59] <elfy> if pleia2 and knome and any other social media types could social mediay the last mail - that would be awesomey [19:59] <pleia2> yep, on it :) [19:59] <elfy> \o/ [21:33] <bluesabre> elfy: exciting mail, that one [21:35] <elfy> bluesabre: the oh my word this is broken all over one? [21:35] <bluesabre> yeah, that one [21:35] <bluesabre> :D [21:35] <elfy> :) [21:36] <elfy> tried to make it positive - not very easy [21:37] <elfy> bluesabre: did you catch my message re rebuilds? tick our boxes and then mark for rebuild - just rebuilds us [21:37] <knome> i guess somebody should bring this up... where are we with the release notes and announcement? [21:37] <elfy> you should only be able to do that for something you're in -release for anyway [21:37] <elfy> knome: same as always [21:37] <knome> ":)" [21:38] <elfy> I thought that we agreed announcement was website thing :D [21:38] <knome> i guess so [21:39] <bluesabre> elfy: I figured it out, and did a rebuild last night :) [21:39] <bluesabre> but thanks :D [21:39] <elfy> bluesabre: oh yea ... [21:39] <knome> elfy, do we have a fairly up-to-date list of bugs? [21:39] <Unit193> knome: Simple, "We now have Xfce 4.12!" :---D [21:39] <elfy> I saw this morning [21:39] <bluesabre> Unit193: yep [21:39] <slickymaster> lol Unit193 [21:39] <bluesabre> :D [21:39] <elfy> knome: not very [21:39] <knome> bluesabre, did you say you were pulling together some notes of new stuff? [21:40] <bluesabre> knome: yeah, will likely have a complete list a bit later [21:40] <knome> this is the point in the release when i wished all of the new features were documented in the blueprints... [21:40] <knome> bluesabre, great, ping me then [21:40] <elfy> knome: it's likely that release will be later than beta2 [21:41] <knome> later? [21:41] <elfy> us vs uk timezones [21:41] <knome> aha [21:41] <knome> that's fine [21:41] <Unit193> Not sure it counts, but upgrades for core users now works... [21:41] <knome> but it's "tomorrow", so better get something moving now.. [21:41] <knome> Unit193, i guess i practically count as one [21:42] <elfy> knome: the bugs on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/ReleaseNoteBase are more or less current still from bp [21:42] <elfy> only one 'wrong' is the reboot bug [21:42] <knome> ok, i have this bug with lightdm [21:42] <knome> now the layout is correct [21:42] <elfy> and I think that needs some 'writing' not just a bug number [21:42] <knome> but then it starts "loading" something [21:43] <knome> or it might just as well just be flipping the mouse between the monitors [21:43] <knome> hmm. [21:43] <knome> double-click helped [21:43] <elfy> I'll have to catch up on backlog - failing to sit up straight now [21:43] <knome> it's likely something with my very dirty config. [21:43] <knome> and/or dualhead config [21:44] <knome> elfy, and thanks for the link [21:45] <knome> http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-1504-release [22:06] <knome> bluesabre, feel free to add to the pad directly [22:06] <knome> i'll take care of the final formatting so no need to worry about that [22:06] <bluesabre> knome, cool, sounds good [22:07] <knome> also uploaded the release announcement artwork on the blog already ;) [22:07] <bluesabre> added a bit of contribution [22:07] <knome> lol [22:08] <knome> bluesabre, just checking... the new walllpaper is uploaded already? :P [22:08] <knome> bluesabre, and used? [22:08] <knome> :P [22:13] <bluesabre> knome: trolling, or not? I quite like the vivid wallpaper :) [22:13] <knome> not. [22:13] <knome> i just didn't remember when/if we pulled the switch [22:14] <bluesabre> yeah, probably forgot since it was before UIF [22:14] <bluesabre> for the first time in a long long while [22:14] <bluesabre> ;) [22:14] <knome> yeah... so long time ago [22:36] <bluesabre> package diffs that we care about http://paste.ubuntu.com/10868565/ [22:36] <bluesabre> I'll get the relevant things out of there and into the pad [22:36] <knome> bluesabre, cheerio [22:38] <Unit193> I'm rebuilding core ISOs now to test them and make sure they're all alright, will rebuild as close to final release as I can, make torrents, and everything. [22:38] <bluesabre> Unit193: good sir [22:38] <krytarik> Torrents \o/ [22:42] <Unit193> krytarik: Figured you'd like. [22:42] <krytarik> :D [23:05] <bluesabre> knome: added all the interesting things I could think of, and fixed the xfce 4.12 release date ;) [23:05] <knome> nice [23:12] <knome> ok, i'm off to bed [23:12] <knome> see you all later [23:14] <bluesabre> nighty knome

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.328363

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-nl

[07:49] <Power2All> Yo, zijn er problemen met de netwerk installatie mirrors ? Krijg met alle versies een melding dat de mirrors niet accessible zijn of zo. [07:50] <Power2All> Debian en anderen functioneren gewoon. [07:50] <trijntje> Power2All: welke mirrors precies? [07:50] <Power2All> Default tijdens PXE installatie via NOCPS. [07:51] <Power2All> Debian en CentOS installeren prima, Ubuntu helaas niet, blijft hangen bij connecten naar mirror. security url werkt ook niet in de console. [07:51] <trijntje> ja, maar welke zijn dat? Het kan zijn dat de nederlandse mirrors tijdelijk offline zijn [07:51] <Power2All> mmm ik denk dat hij de Nederlandse pakt idd. [07:52] <Power2All> Is beetje onduidelijk gezien hij in de andere console niet aangeeft welke hij probeert. [07:52] <Power2All> Wel krijg ik een melding te zien dat hij de security mirror wilt benaderen en ook niet lukt. [07:52] <Power2All> Heb er een foto van gemaakt, als je moment heb, probeer ik die ff te pakken. [08:02] <Power2All> Heb nog even verder trouwens gekeken, maar lijkt erop dat NOCPS de mirrors niet kan benaderen, vreemd. [08:02] <Power2All> Ik ga hier nog even met mijn baas naar kijken. [09:53] <lordievader> Goede morgen. [12:29] <pjotter> Houston... we got a problem [12:30] <lordievader> ? [12:30] <OerHeks> :-) [12:30] <pjotter> Ik had zojuist een usb keyboard aangelsloten op mijnlaptopje. Deed het prima. Maar toen ik het keyboard er weer uit haalde en weer wilde typen op het kb van mijn laptop waren alle letters door de war. [12:31] <pjotter> Ik heb de laptop opgestart met een live cd en daarin deed het 'interne' keyboard het verder wel prima. [12:31] <pjotter> Dus het heeft iets te maken met een instelling? [12:31] <pjotter> Hoe reset ik het keyboard in Ubuntu? [12:32] <pjotter> Of... hoe laat ik 'm weer opnieuw herkennen? [12:32] <pjotter> Niet alle toetsen zijn verkeerd. Alleen sommige. De I is bijvoorbeeld een 5 en de J is een 1 :S [12:32] <OerHeks> systemsettings > keyboard, en daar switchen? [12:33] <pjotter> Heb ik geprobeerd. geen soelaas [12:34] <pjotter> Ik heb ook al setxkbmap nl geprobeerd [12:34] <pjotter> Haalt ook niks uit [12:35] <OerHeks> loguit/login? [12:35] <pjotter> Ook gedaan [12:36] <lordievader> dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-layout? [12:37] <pjotter> Ben ik nu aan het doen [12:37] <pjotter> Ik heb 'Acer laptop' gekozen als model keyboard. Misschein dat dit gaat werken [12:38] <pjotter> Hoe krijg ik het weer voor mekaar, he? [12:38] <lordievader> Meh, heb vaker zoiets gehoord. [12:38] <pjotter> Gelukkig werkt dat usb keybboard nog wel anders kon ik helemaal niets meer doen op mijn acertje [12:40] <pjotter> dpkg-reconfigure werkte helaas ook niet [12:41] <Sling> en dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration ? [12:42] <pjotter> Mozes griebels.. het was de num lock!! :o [12:42] <pjotter> Ok mensen... we zijn er weer [12:43] <OerHeks> oh [12:43] <OerHeks> Housten, we have a big problem [12:43] <pjotter> This is Houston control... try hitting num lock - over- [12:44] <OerHeks> lijkt een beetje op die verdwenen keyboard optie, je numpad als een muis gebruiken [12:44] <pjotter> Ik niet snap. Heb ik zelf num lock inetoets (iets wat ik nooit doe) of is dat gekomen door het aansluiten van dat keyboard? [12:45] <pjotter> Nu ja/ Het werkt in ieder geval weer. [12:46] <pjotter> Voor de schrik toch maar even een cappuccinootje maken [22:10] <jenske> Ik meen me te herinneren dat je in een SVG-bestand (in inkscape) ook elementen als afdrukdatum en bestandsnaam kan laten integreren. Zoja, hoe doe je dat dan?

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.333777

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-us-mi

[12:08] <cmaloney> orn [12:08] <cmaloney> morning [12:09] <rick_h_> morning [12:49] <_stink_> good morning [12:51] <cmaloney> Are we having fun yet? [12:53] <rick_h_> not yet but there's hope [12:53] <cmaloney> heh [12:53] <cmaloney> Light, end of tunnel, and all that? [12:54] <rick_h_> it's CHC night, but of course! [12:54] <cmaloney> Yep, I got the customarial _stink_ isn't able to come notification. ;) [12:54] <rick_h_> lol [13:00] <_stink_> just playing my part to make your week special [13:01] <_stink_> did i tell this chan that we are expecting kid #3? july [13:01] <_stink_> i think i told cmaloney in meatspace [13:02] <_stink_> so yeah odds of CHC may decrease :P [13:04] <brousch> Just bring them all! (And congrats) [13:05] <cmaloney> _stink_: Teach your kids to code and you can have CHC at your house. :) [13:05] <_stink_> i hope! [14:35] <greg-g> _stink_: wow, 3! [15:22] <greg-g> rick_h_: add Canonical data: https://github.com/davedash/parental-leave [15:22] * greg-g did https://github.com/davedash/parental-leave/pull/15 [15:22] <greg-g> found via: https://medium.com/@davedash/my-paternity-leave-wasn-t-a-vacation-547ee9615d [15:22] <rick_h_> greg-g: interesting. I think it respects country requirements but will dbl check [15:23] <greg-g> so for non-CA residents: jack shit? :) [15:23] <greg-g> fed law is 12 weeks unpaid leave, but this is tracking paid leave [15:24] <greg-g> CA has a 6 week paid minimum law [15:29] <jrwren> zomg, i am moving to CA and having babies! (not really) [15:29] <greg-g> 6 weeks is shit [15:30] <greg-g> but sure [15:30] * greg-g is a dirty commie [15:30] <jrwren> ha! [15:30] <jrwren> i only got 3weeks when Lilly was born :( [15:30] <jrwren> it waws a good 3 weeks. [15:30] <brousch> Too bad they will die from dehydration :( [15:30] <jrwren> I don't think it was pat leave either. [15:30] <jrwren> i used all my vaca for it. [15:31] <jrwren> then 3mo later changed to indie dev :) [15:31] <greg-g> yeah, that ain't what this is :), this tracks paid parental leave :) [15:31] <jrwren> that was the best. all the vaca I want! [15:31] <jrwren> billing hourly RULES [15:31] <jrwren> I don't think MI has paid parental leave [15:34] <cmaloney> Nah, we just leave the kids on the side of a hill and see if they can fend for themselves [15:34] <cmaloney> good for the Romans, good enough for us. :) [15:35] <greg-g> :P [15:39] <rick_h_> greg-g: hmm, so yea pretty consistent I guess across the regions http://paste.ubuntu.com/10866629/ [15:40] <rick_h_> greg-g: one week paid, one week unpaid (or you can do holiday which one of my guys did this year) [15:41] <jrwren> greg-g: are you having moar babies? [15:41] <greg-g> we'll see :) [15:42] <cmaloney> greg-g: That sounds like you're leaning towards "yes" [15:42] <jrwren> congrats greg-g [15:43] <cmaloney> Things I've noticed: Asking folks if they are having another kid usually get answered in two ways: "we'll see" (yes) or "hell no, are you fucking kidding me?" (no) [15:44] <greg-g> heh, I'm actually at 50/50 personally [15:44] <greg-g> carrie is at 99:1 [15:44] <rick_h_> greg-g: hah [15:44] <rick_h_> greg-g: we like to call that an unbalanced equation [15:44] <rick_h_> tipping over soon! [15:45] <cmaloney> 99:1 in favor or against? [15:48] <greg-g> in favor [16:01] <jrwren> greg-g: you better help her out with that :p [16:06] <greg-g> I guess [16:06] <greg-g> :) [16:23] <greg-g> I just clarified ours: 2 week minimum, 6 weeks only for CA residents: https://github.com/davedash/parental-leave/compare/master...greggrossmeier:patch-2 [16:32] <jrwren> 2week min? as in - you HAVE to take it. [16:32] <greg-g> no, as in you at least get 2 weeks, more if you live in CA [19:00] <brousch> Are you East Siders enjoying a blizzard today? [19:01] <jrwren> no [19:02] <rick_h_> not yet, later tonight maybe :) [19:02] <mrgoodcat> it was hailing this morning [19:04] <_stink_> i made the mistake of putting my tomato seedlings out :( [19:04] <_stink_> shrivel up and die. [19:04] <mrgoodcat> rip seedlings [19:05] <_stink_> sigh [19:05] <brousch> And you are having more kids?! [19:05] <brousch> Did you put them outside too? [19:05] <_stink_> haha [19:05] <_stink_> i should go double check [19:06] <jrwren> _stink_: :( always wait until may [19:06] <jrwren> _stink_: there is always a frost in april. This is MI [19:06] <_stink_> yeah stupid. [19:06] <_stink_> i got them in and under the grow lamp asap [19:06] <_stink_> but it may have been too late [19:07] <jrwren> oh! probably not then. [19:07] <jrwren> i'll bet they will live. [19:07] <_stink_> the peppers didn't look so sad [19:07] <_stink_> hope so [19:08] <_stink_> it was like 2.5 hours this morning, took t hem out when i left for kid dropoff without even thinking [19:08] <_stink_> "oh it's cold, derp"

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.340098

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-pt

[00:14] <astroo-> Ubuntu 15.04: Desktop, Phone and IoT; towards a converged future https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/21/ubuntu-15-04-desktop-phone-and-iot-towards-a-converged-future/ [02:53] <astroo-> ciao pessoal [20:41] <astroo-> ola pessoal [23:29] <ptsm> boas [23:30] <ptsm> alguem já teve este erro depois de um do-release-upgrade? [23:30] <ptsm> $ sudo lilo Fatal: Trying to map files from unnamed device 0x0015 (NFS/RAID mirror down ?) [23:33] <astroo-> ola [23:34] <astroo-> tenta o #ubuntu-br tambem

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.343541

2015-04-22-#ubuntu-us-tn

[01:42] <bwmaker> Mate is now running and I can cleanly boot and login. Very exciting. May seem like a little thing, but it's pretty cool to accomplish an Arch installation without major issues... yet, [02:27] <cyberanger> I guess I'm just used to it now [20:29] <bwmaker> I have to join the hot chicken one. [20:30] <bwmaker> Oops... wrong channel. :) [20:30] <bwmaker> There's a #hotchicken channel on Freenode, btw. [20:30] <Unit193> Hah, alright. Though there are a few weird channels. [20:31] <bwmaker> A few? Tons. :) [20:31] <bwmaker> If you're in Nashville and ever want to get hot chicken with some tech folks #hotchicken is the place to be. [20:33] <Unit193> Err, that I'm not. >_> [20:33] <Unit193> Chicken is mainly only good with BBQ. :D [20:33] <bwmaker> Nashville hot chicken is great. Hattie B's is a wonderful place. [20:33] <bwmaker> Although, some swear by Prince's. [21:23] <wrst> bwmaker: been meaning to go to hattie b's have heard about it but never been there [21:24] <bwmaker> wrst: It's good. Good chicken, good sides, good sweet tea, good banana pudding. It's hard to beat. [23:23] <wrst> ahh banana pudding!!!! [23:23] <Unit193> :D [23:23] <wrst> howdy Unit193 [23:23] <Unit193> Howdy. [23:26] <wrst> all going well? [23:28] <Unit193> Hmmm. Yes? [23:28] <Unit193> You? [23:28] <Unit193> Need a drink.

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.346949

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-se

[16:39] <screedo> bamsefar: var det inte en Cisco 2600 IOS router du ville ha? [16:42] <bamsefar> screedo: Huh? [16:42] <screedo> Vi pratade nätverk för ett tag sedan så har jag för mig att du sa att du ville ha en cisco router. [16:43] <bamsefar> Jag har ganska många. :P [16:44] <screedo> jo, men det var hemma :P [16:44] <screedo> såg en annongs på Cisco 2600 IOS routrar. [16:44] <screedo> anonns* [16:44] <screedo> annons* [16:45] <bamsefar> Jag har ganska många hemma också. :P [16:45] <screedo> lol [16:48] <bamsefar> Vadå lol? [16:48] <bamsefar> Min 2600 ligger på hyllan, typ värdelös. :P [16:49] <screedo> ok [16:51] <bamsefar> screedo: När pratade vi om routrar? [16:52] <screedo> bamsefar: Är några veckor sedan. [16:52] <bamsefar> Ok [16:54] <bamsefar> Har jag inget minne av alls. :P [16:54] <screedo> :) [18:41] <simon_> Hej! Jag försöker binda mina musknappar till att antingen "backa" eller "framåt" i exempelvis chrome. "Xinput test 10" visar knapparna 8 och 9 men "xev" visar http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810385/ när jag trycker på knapp 8. "Xev" visar korrekt information på knapp 1 osv. Vart kan det vara fel? Har en logitech G3 mus. [18:48] <gusnan> simon_: Visar inte xev mer än så? Kolla efter "ButtonPress event" i utdatan från Xev - Jag får en ButtonPress, en EnterNotify och en KeymapNotify, och i mitt fall visar ButtonPress button 8 korrekt. [18:49] <gusnan> Alltså, jag får dessa tre events vid ett enkelklick med knapp 8. [18:52] <simon_> nej, tyvärr. I denna text ser vi först när jag trycker på knapp1 och sedan släpper den. Sedan trycker jag på knapp 8 och det är då information saknas, verkar det som. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810465/

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.354291

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-us-ca

[17:36] <MichaelPaoli> Berkeley Linux User Group (BerkeleyLUG) http://www.berkeleylug.com/?page_id=67 noon-3p @ Bobby G's, also Ubuntu Hour Berkeley there noon-1p http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2993-ubuntu-hour-berkeley/ [17:36] <darthrobot> Title: [Berkeley Linux Users Group » Meetings] [17:36] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu Hour Berkeley | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal] [17:39] * pleia2 tweeted about it a few minutes ago [17:39] <MichaelPaoli> And while they last, I've also got these: http://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:books_and_publications at http://www.berkeleylug.com/?page_id=67 and http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2993-ubuntu-hour-berkeley/ [17:39] <darthrobot> Title: [balug:books_and_publications [BALUG Wiki]] [17:39] <darthrobot> Title: [Berkeley Linux Users Group » Meetings] [17:39] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu Hour Berkeley | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal] [17:39] <MichaelPaoli> pleia2 :-) [17:40] <pleia2> I have lunch plans with friends visiting this weekend, but I do hope to make it next time! [17:41] <MichaelPaoli> pleia2 Yep, ... to do lists 'n calendars ... they tend to get *full*! ... egad, my todo list is 4,612 lines long! 8-O [17:42] <pleia2> :O [17:42] <pleia2> I hope it's comprehensive :) [17:52] <MichaelPaoli> pleia2 Yeah, pretty comprehensive ... it's really combined todo list, wish list, and neverending list of doom. ;-) [17:56] <pleia2> it's good to have one of those

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.359852

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-ru

[08:29] <ascet_> Здравствуйте. Я очень начинающий пользователь ubuntu... Так что прошу отнестись снисходительно, могу говорить глупости по неопытности.... тут возникла такая проблема, что мне необходимо разработать железку. Не суть важна какую, главное, что та [08:29] <ascet_> м пишется прошивка на ATMega16 используя программатор AVR JTAGICE MKII. [08:29] <ascet_> Настраивал окружение себе я вот по этой инструкции [08:29] <ascet_> http://avr.ru/tools/linux/dev [08:29] <ascet_> Дошел до шага "Подключаем программатор" и тут возникли проблемы. при подключении программатора никаких устройств в /dev/ новых не возникает. По приведенному примеру [08:29] <ascet_> ls /dev > /tmp/dev1 # сохраним список устройств в /dev во временный файл /tmp/dev1 [08:29] <ascet_> # присоединим программатор [08:30] <ascet_> ls /dev > /tmp/dev2 # сохраним список устройств в /dev во временный файл /tmp/dev2 [08:30] <ascet_> comm -3 /tmp/dev1 /tmp/dev2 # найдем различия в списках устройств [08:30] <ascet_> Сравнение ничего не дало. [08:30] <ascet_> В выводе lsusb присутствует следующая строчка: [08:30] <ascet_> Bus 001 Device 022: ID 03eb:2103 Atmel Corp. JTAG ICE mkII [08:30] <ascet_> В процессе разбирания дошел до просто консольного вызова avrdude. Как оказалось для корректной работы вовсе не обязательно указывать местоположение устройства в /dev/, без этого он смог найти программатор и узнать например, что к контроллеру [08:30] <ascet_> не подаётся питание. Но тут возникла другая проблема: при исполнении следующей команды [08:30] <ascet_> avrdude -cjtagmkii -pm16 -b9600 -F -U flash:w:/home/ascet/work/HelloLED/HelloLed.hex [08:30] <ascet_> Получается вот такой вот вывод. [08:30] <ascet_> avrdude: jtagmkII_program_enable(): bad response to enter progmode command: RSP_ILLEGAL_JTAG_ID [08:30] <ascet_> avrdude: jtagmkII_program_enable(): bad response to enter progmode command: RSP_ILLEGAL_JTAG_ID [08:30] <ascet_> avrdude: JTAGEN fuse disabled? [08:30] <ascet_> avrdude: initialization failed, rc=-1 [08:30] <ascet_> avrdude: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions [08:30] <ascet_> avrdude: Device signature = 0x580469 [08:30] <ascet_> avrdude: Expected signature for ATmega16 is 1E 94 03 [08:30] <ascet_> avrdude done. Thank you. [08:30] <ascet_> К сожалению я уже полторы суток пытаюсь решить эту проблему, с помощью интернетов, форумов и гугла, но не могу сам понять как решить эту проблему как и собственно в чем проблема.... [08:31] <ascet_> Может быть кто-нибудь сможет подсказать... буду крайне благодарен=) [18:41] <den_is_ok> Все привет!!! Есть кто живой? [19:26] <Sergey_IT> с праздником!

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.377550

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-it

[07:46] <akis24> giorno [08:55] <francesco_> benvenuti [09:06] <sverga> ragazzi mi potreste aiutrare a installare acestream su un computer a architettura 32 bit??? la mia versione diubuntu è la 14.10 [09:11] <dadexix86> sverga cos'è acestream? [09:38] <francesco_> budus macro xdcc d 6 [09:44] <ExPBoy> ? [10:16] <francesco_> budus macro xdcc d 8 [10:24] <cristian_c> francesco_, non utilizzare script in canale [11:02] <ExPBoy> lol [13:26] <h_boyz> Buongiorno, ho preoblemi con la copia di alcuni file da un hd esterno ad un'altro, credo sia dovuto ai permessi,ma non riesco a modificarli in nessun modo. File system di entrambi gli hd è NTFS.Spero di aver spiegato bene il problema [13:27] <enzotib> h_boyz, che errore ti dà? [13:30] <h_boyz> Impossibile copiare "percorso/nome file" a "percorso2/nomefile" (Err.5) [13:30] <enzotib> h_boyz, lo fai da terminale? [13:35] <h_boyz> Da dolphin [13:36] <h_boyz> Da terminale da "non riuscita: Errore di input/output" [13:42] <h_boyz> enzotib:Da terminale mi restituisce" non riuscita: Errore di input/output" [13:43] <enzotib> errore di I/O in genere significa che il disco è rotto [13:51] <h_boyz> enzotib: me lo fa solo con alcuni file, che però se prima vengono compressi e poi spostati, una volta decompressi funzionano perfettamente. [13:51] <h_boyz> enzotib: posso risolvere con questo escamotage, ma vorrei capire il problema [13:51] <enzotib> h_boyz, quando vengono compressi non dà errore? [13:51] <h_boyz> no [13:52] <h_boyz> comprimo sul primo hd , sposto il file risultante e decomprimo, tutto funziona [13:58] <h_boyz> enzotib: volevo tentare una copia del disco con gddrescue per vedere se sul nuovo disco fa lo stesso ,ma non ho capito se posso copiare tutti i file sul disco o se devo obbligatoriamente creare l'immagine e poi estrarre i file [13:59] <enzotib> è strano, perché tanto per copiare, quanto per comprire, il file va letto tutto, e se ci sono errori devono esserci in entrambi i casi [14:01] <h_boyz> infatti nella mia ignoranza, non riesco a spiegarmelo, oltretutto succede solo con alcuni file qualce Gb su un totale di 500 [14:14] <enzotib> h_boyz, che succeda solo con alcuni file è comprensibile, significa che solo alcuni settori del disco sono danneggiati [14:15] <h_boyz> enzotib: ultima cosa e poi ti lascio libero, provando con ddrescue, mi dice che non ho i permessi per il file di input,se lo lancio con sudo poi avrò problemi con i file in destinazione [14:19] <h_boyz> adesso stò provando con dddrescue, al termine monto il file .img e cerco di estrarre i file, vediamo cosa succede. [14:20] <h_boyz> Grazie per ora, quando ha terminato se sei in linea ti ricontatto. [15:55] <akis24> sera [20:51] <luca__> ho un problema la wifi non va [20:54] <luca__> non riesco a risolvere [20:54] <luca__> chi mi aiuta per favore

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.393352

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-es

[08:31] * merrick Saluda! [08:32] <roger_35> o/ [11:14] <erAbuelo> buenos dias [11:22] <successus> salud,hasta otro rato o/ [14:14] <successus> salud [19:51] <successus_> salud, hasta otro rato o/ [21:46] <bluhu> Hola a todos :), una pregunta. Estoy tratando de volver a las viejas andanzas y estoy tratando de instalar xubuntu compartiendo disco con win7 pero al principio me salia un alert sobre la proteccion de particion gpt, redimensione la particion para tener un campito para xubuntu, pero no me reconoce las particiones... alguna recomendacion o tal vez a alguien le paso lo mismo antes [22:03] * Hanom1960 is away: I'm busy

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.396566

2015-04-12-#juju

[02:44] <AskUbuntu> Juju - Wordpress hook failed : install | http://askubuntu.com/q/608238 [14:22] * Zetas waves to everyone [14:34] * Zetas waves to lazyPower [20:08] <lazyPower> o/ Zetas [23:42] <AskUbuntu> Juju - agent-state stuck on allocating | http://askubuntu.com/q/608544

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.398002

2015-04-12-#xubuntu

[00:29] <gnumbknuts> To further a question asked previously: Nautilus has the option to, either, make "Delete" delete or to send to the rubbish bin, is this option available for Thunar ? [00:30] <knome> gnumbknuts, did you try looking at thunar? [00:30] <gnumbknuts> To further a question asked previously: Nautilus has the option to, either, make "Delete" delete or to send to the rubbish bin, is this option available for Thunar ? [00:30] <gnumbknuts> knome: yes I did. [00:31] <knome> gnumbknuts, and? [00:31] <xubuntu96w> How much RAM do I need to run xubuntu? [00:31] <knome> xubuntu96w, how much do you have? [00:31] <xubuntu96w> I want to run Virtual Machines [00:31] <knome> xubuntu96w, for some guidelines, see http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/requirements/ [00:32] <gnumbknuts> I could not find an such option, I also spent hours going through the source files. [00:32] <xubuntu96w> I have 8g RAM [00:32] <knome> gnumbknuts, oookay. if you select a file and right-click, you have both options. or if you select a file and go to the edit menu. [00:32] <xubuntu96w> Windows 8 as host [00:33] <knome> xubuntu96w, 512mb is ok, but if you actually want to do things inside it, i'd assign at *least* 1gb [00:33] <xubuntu96w> So I can run 10 Virtual Machines? [00:34] <xubuntu96w> 2g for host and 512 per VM? [00:34] <knome> xubuntu96w, i don't know why you would want to do that, but... yes, that's technically possible. [00:35] <xubuntu96w> for a game I play [00:35] <xubuntu96w> Will only let me run 3 games per computer [00:35] <xubuntu96w> I want to run 30 games [00:35] * Unit193 scratches head. [00:35] <xubuntu96w> lol [00:36] <xubuntu96w> I make accts and sell them [00:36] <xubuntu96w> thanks knome [00:36] <knome> xubuntu96w, i'm pretty sure that's against the games terms, so i will have to advice not to do that. [00:37] <xubuntu96w> ok I wont, take care [00:39] <gnumbknuts> Knome: I think you maybe misunderstanding what I'm after ? Yes, both options are available in the methods you describe, but what i want is for the delete option to either, send to rubbish; or, to simply disable it. [00:40] <knome> the delete option in the menu or from the keyboard? [00:43] <gnumbknuts> Knome: the delete option on the menu and right-click menu; and there seems to be a issue with the delete key. The delete key is deleting without a warning prompt, which I thought that was only supposed to happen when shift+delete was executed ? [00:44] <knome> obviously not, that's why the send to trash option is there... [00:45] <Unit193> http://git.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/tree/thunar/thunar-tree-view.c#n1395 [00:49] <gnumbknuts> Well... with Thunar crashing allot lately, that makes for files being deleted unintentionally. This is not good . [00:55] <gnumbknuts> Thankyou both Knome and Unit193 ; -) I will spend some time going through that source file. I may even find the answer to the "DISK-Image-Mounter" question. [00:58] <gnumbknuts> Of course, I know *ugger all about programming, I can only manage to get a basic bash srcipt to work , lol [01:27] <gnumbknuts> Recant a previous statement. It would seem that using another computer, Thunar behaves as it should in regards to the delete key function; that is, after selecting a file, using the delete key causes the file to be moved to rubbish; shift+delete causes the "permanent delete" warning prompt. I believe that this is the correct behavior ? The issue I am having maybe related to working in a chroot environment and not logging-out correctly. [05:06] <xubuntu53i> Hey anybody have a UEFI bios? [05:06] <cfhowlett> xubuntu53i, several million people have uefi. [05:08] <xubuntu53i> Great, well I can't seem to get the grub boot loader to work if I have windows as well [05:54] <varaindemian> hi guys, I just installed latest xubuntu 14.04.2 and I can not use proprietary video drivers. I have ATI radeon 8600m series [05:54] <varaindemian> Any help? [05:56] <varaindemian> When I select one of them from Additional Drivers window and hit the Apply Changes buttom it won't apply.. it just does stick with the x.org(open source tested) [05:57] <baizon> varaindemian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD [06:02] <varaindemian> baizon: thank you. I thought there is a much easier way. also I don't understand why it doesn t let me install them via additional drivers [06:02] <baizon> varaindemian: binary blob is sometimes a messy thing [06:02] <baizon> thats why im using the open source drivers [06:03] <varaindemian> on ubuntu 14.10 I have hardware acc by default... but this is not the case of 14.04.2 [06:07] <varaindemian> baizon: is there any other way I can enable hardware acceleration without installing proprietary drivers? [06:07] <baizon> varaindemian: im using vdpau [06:11] <varaindemian> Does it enable hardware acc only for videos (I have it for videos) or for animations (this is what lacks in my case)? [06:11] <varaindemian> baizon: ^ [06:12] <baizon> varaindemian: which animations? [06:14] <varaindemian> baizon: when I move windows on desktop I have glitches, Also when I scroll I have those too [06:15] <baizon> varaindemian: ok, so you need the new drivers [06:15] <baizon> varaindemian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [06:15] <baizon> install the utopic drivers on your trusty system [06:21] <varaindemian> baizon: I used sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-utopic xserver-xorg-lts-utopic libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-utopic libegl1-mesa-drivers-lts-utopic [06:22] <varaindemian> baizon: aoutput: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed [06:22] <varaindemian> and 7 not upgraded [06:28] <varaindemian> baizon: I also had hardware acc on 14.04.0 I don t know what they did to 14.04.2 [06:45] <baizon> varaindemian: did it work properly on "14.04.0"? [07:20] <varaindemian> baizon: yep [07:21] <baizon> varaindemian: then just revert the update [07:21] <baizon> varaindemian: sudo apt-get install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-lts-trusty libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty libegl1-mesa-drivers-lts-trusty [07:32] <varaindemian> baizon: I tried... same result [07:47] <Imad_Sawal> Hi ! [07:47] <Imad_Sawal> Is anybody online ? [07:47] <Imad_Sawal> I wanted help in installing this : [07:47] <Imad_Sawal> http://rfc2822.github.io/GfxTablet/ [07:48] <Imad_Sawal> I am having errors while doing so [11:35] <skulltip> would it be better to install the 32-bit OS on a laptop with 3072Mb, or 64-bit in terms of (school) productivity and memory usage? libreoffice, email, firefox/chrome, etc.. [23:31] <tgm4883> Is 15.04 going with systemd instead of upstart? [23:31] <bazhang> !info systemd vivid [23:32] <bazhang> required [23:33] <tgm4883> bazhang: ok, just trying to figure out why my xubuntu 15.04 laptop has both installed [23:33] <tgm4883> Looks like xfce4-indicator-plugin depends on upstart-bin [23:34] <bazhang> could be part of the transition, I'm not sure there, osrry [23:34] <bazhang> and sorry [23:35] <tgm4883> yea I'm working on some Mythbuntu bugs and tracked it back to that package and some others, just seeing what xubuntu people are expecting [23:35] <bazhang> ok [23:53] <gnumbknuts> Re: Thunar and Disk-Image-Mounter. It would appear that Thunar calls on gnome-disk-image-mounter to perform this action, which is part of the gnome-disk-utility package. So now I will go through that package to see what the syntax is ...

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.403424

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-uk

[04:50] <mapps> hey all [05:34] <knightwise> yo mapps [05:34] <knightwise> howzyou ? [05:38] <mapps> not5 bad [05:38] <mapps> watching csi cber ep 5 [05:38] <mapps> and you?:) [06:57] <mapps> hm csi cyber wasnt terrible in this latest ep [08:08] <directhex_> anything with CYBER in the name is awesome by definition [08:39] * directhex_ looks at replacing his car [08:48] <zmoylan-pi> rollerblades are the future... :-) [08:52] <shauno> easy there Disco Stu [09:00] <directhex_> disco stu likes disco music [09:07] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls. [10:35] <zmoylan-pi> rocket powered rollerblades... [10:39] * brobostigon is having a play with buntu touch on his nexus 4, simply for curiosity, but needs sw for his pebble, and something like irssinotifier. [11:05] <brobostigon> any suggestions? [14:03] <directhex_> quite liked the volt test drive [14:25] <zmoylan-pi> it sparked your interest? :-P [14:30] <diddledan> poor Jensen Button :-( [14:30] <diddledan> silly pastor maldonado [14:31] <diddledan> (I'm biased) :-p [14:31] <zmoylan-pi> how much does button earn per year again? [14:31] <diddledan> does he get extra for hitting the back of an opponent and making them retire? [14:32] <zmoylan-pi> didn't work for clarkson... :-P [14:32] <popey> ~12M per season or so [14:32] <diddledan> lol [14:32] <diddledan> is that all, popey :-p [14:32] <zmoylan-pi> he's impoverished the poor man... [14:33] <zmoylan-pi> living rough out of his private jet at this stage... [14:59] <directhex_> zmoylan-pi: it was perfectly comfortable, and hit my #1 requirement when i buy cars [15:01] <zmoylan-pi> the cigarette lighter was really quick? :-P [15:06] <directhex_> better fuel economy than its predecessor [15:06] <zmoylan-pi> longer range? [16:16] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :) [16:20] <mapps> morning [17:00] <daftykins> went t check out the chapel my friends bought, tday [17:00] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u44l95btsuwd001/AABp3mPeOjeXm5RA3xpC8z4ca?dl=0 [17:00] <daftykins> they're opening an art gallery in it \o/ [17:01] <penguin42> nice [17:16] <MooDoo> evening all [17:22] <daftykins> heya [17:31] <popey> pip pip [17:31] <penguin42> pop [17:34] <bigcalm> Why couldn't GTA V have been released on Friday evening thus allowing the weekend be spent having fun? [17:35] <m0nkey_> Rockstar only deliver on Tuesdays [17:35] <m0nkey_> That's from prior experience playing on PS3 & PS4 [17:35] <zmoylan-pi> lessens the load on their servers in case they're unprepared? [17:36] <penguin42> yeh probably [17:36] <zmoylan-pi> i never installed new software on a friday, it was tempting fate :-) [17:36] <m0nkey_> Releasing on Friday is a bad idea, nobody wants to work the weekend if stuff breaks [17:38] <bigcalm> I pre-installed GTA V on the 7th [17:39] <bigcalm> Should be able to decrypt it at 12am on the 14th [17:40] <daftykins> got enough beans in your PC to play it? :) [17:52] <directhex_> it's complicated [17:52] <directhex_> but it's a legacy retail issue [17:52] <directhex_> from the USA [17:53] <directhex_> http://uk.businessinsider.com/why-video-games-are-released-on-tuesdays-2014-11 [18:18] <MooDoo> so you can install it but not play it....bummer, although how big was it, 60gb right? [18:19] <daftykins> around that i think [18:19] <zmoylan-pi> and by the time it omes out how many more gb of patches will it need? :-) [18:21] <MooDoo> lots and lots [18:21] <ali1234> 7 DVDs apparently [18:24] <Everyone> http://imgur.com/a/gYQYX?gallery#61 [18:24] <Everyone> leaves. [18:25] <daftykins> well it's a game that i've played since November of 2013 when it released for the xbox360, so it's pretty well patched by this point ;) [18:26] <daftykins> but there'll likely be regular fixes going into the online portion yeah [18:30] <MooDoo> after watching all the gta iv video on youtube i might consider purchasing this [18:31] <popey> what the hell was that drive by link paste.. [18:31] <popey> oh, our loon on isle of man. [18:31] <daftykins> MooDoo: IV or V? IV was pretty terrible in comparison :> [18:32] <ali1234> is there any difference between the GTA games? [18:32] <ali1234> i've only played up to san andreas [18:32] <daftykins> huge differences [18:33] <ali1234> they all seem pretty much identical [18:33] <popey> i should get an early night for the GTA V release tomorrow :) [18:33] <daftykins> it tends to be such that i can't handle going backwards because they change enough that you can't do things in the last that you can in the new [18:33] <shauno> 1969 has minis, the rest don't. huge difference [18:33] <daftykins> :D [18:38] <penguin42> do they have rows of them in the three colours? [18:40] <daftykins> and off in the distance you can hear the radio "...self-preservation society..." [18:48] <penguin42> nod :-)

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.409201

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-de

[06:36] <neosilver-gk> guten morgen [06:37] <neosilver-gk> kann mir jemand mit einem crash bezüglich dbus helfen [06:38] <neosilver-gk> hab teamspeak3-server installier und gestartet. der läuft ca 25 min und stürzt dann ab. Einziger log ist in apport.log [06:38] <neosilver-gk> is_closing_session(): no DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS in environment [06:52] <mich_> hallo ,- ist jemand da :-)? [06:59] <mich_> hallo ,- :-)?! [07:41] <sdx23> mich_: einfach die Frage stellen. [08:00] <mich_> sdx23: ich danke dir ( halbe stunde später, hab ich es auch gesehen/gelesen .. lo,l :-) [08:02] <dreamon> Guten Morgen. Hat jemand einen Tip, wie debuggt man wenn die Kiste aus dem Standby kommt, aber man keinen LoginScreen anzeigt bekommt. Komme nur über strg+alt+1 rein. Aber kriege keine Gui mehr ans laufen. [08:04] <PachiriSuu> servus [09:20] <rentier_> Huhu! Das ding weigert sich zu aktualisieren "geben sie mindestzens blabla MB auf der Festplatte /boot frei" [09:20] <rentier_> ich hab aber schon papierkorb geleert und sudo apt-get clean gemacht, geht da noch was? [09:32] <nagetier> rentier_, Hey. Zeig mal ein df -h.. und wenn du zu wenig Speicherplatz freigegeben hattest, ist das nicht so gut und fordert entweder eine Neuinstallation mit passender Partitionierung, oder Werkzeuge, die das nachträglich richten [09:34] <rentier_> nagetier, /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root 95G 78G 13G 87% / [09:34] <rentier_> none 4,0K 0 4,0K 0% /sys/fs/cgroup [09:34] <rentier_> udev 7,7G 4,0K 7,7G 1% /dev [09:34] <rentier_> tmpfs 1,6G 1,5M 1,6G 1% /run [09:34] <rentier_> none 5,0M 0 5,0M 0% /run/lock [09:34] <rentier_> none 7,7G 1,1M 7,7G 1% /run/shm [09:34] <rentier_> none 100M 44K 100M 1% /run/user [09:34] <rentier_> /dev/sda1 228M 161M 55M 75% /boot [09:34] <nagetier> !paste > rentier_ [09:34] <kubine> rentier_: Nicht selbst geschriebener Text wird im IRC sehr unleserlich und unhandlich. Deshalb sollten mehr als 3 Zeilen immer in einen sogenannten Nopaste-Service wie z.B. http://paste.ubuntu.com/ abgelegt werden. Nach dem Speichern kannst du dann die URL der Seite kopieren und sie statt des Textes hier im Channel posten. [09:34] <rentier_> nagetier, 228 MB muss verdammt genug sein fürn Bootmanager, ich werd nur die verdammten alten Linuxheader nicht los [09:36] <nagetier> rentier_, sind da noch alte Kernel auf /boot ? [09:36] <nagetier> schmeiß die runter, die header liegen doch nicht unter /boot ? [09:37] <rentier_> ah jetzt hab ichs [09:37] <nagetier> rentier_, 'dpkg -l | grep kernel' [09:37] <rentier_> sie sind weg [09:37] <rentier_> aktualisierung läuft [09:37] <rentier_> hä hä hä [09:37] <nagetier> schön [09:37] <nagetier> :) [11:37] <dreamon> Wie debuggt man Bereitschaft(Standby)? Manchmal geht es, manchmal geht es nicht. Sprich ich bekomme keinen LoginScreen. Nur schwarz. Komme zwar in die Konsole aber die Gui seh ich nicht. [11:37] <dreamon> Gui läuft aber, höre die Töne. Leider ist Bild dunkel. Display leuchtet. Aber Inhalt fehlt. [12:03] <phillip> dreamon: schwer, vielleicht hilft https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelHibernate [12:03] <kubine> phillip: Title: DebuggingKernelHibernate - Ubuntu Wiki (at wiki.ubuntu.com) [12:06] <dreamon> phillip, Nun das ist nicht der Supend to Ram.. sondern da geht die Kiste ja ganz aus. Ich klappe aber hier meist das Notebook zu. Ich kann es auch nicht immer reproduzieren. [12:07] <dreamon> Ich teste mal.. [12:07] <phillip> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend [12:07] <kubine> phillip: Title: DebuggingKernelSuspend - Ubuntu Wiki (at wiki.ubuntu.com) [12:08] <dreamon> Ob es wohl daran liegt, weil ich bei jedem reboot einen fsck ausgeführt bekomme. Der muß jedesmal durchlaufen. Obwohl ich normal heruntergefahren bin [14:09] <zy3pD> kann mir einer helfen? ich möchte einen dvb-t stream per cVLC ins netzwerk streamen [16:09] <jokrebel_> !frag [16:09] <kubine> jokrebel_: Du brauchst nicht fragen, ob Du fragen darfst oder ob sich jemand auskennt. Das ist zwar höflich, würde aber den Channel sehr zuspammen, wenn dies jeder täte. Stell besser einfach Deine Frage – wenn jemand die Antwort kennt, wird er sie Dir nennen. [18:40] <dreamon> Was könnte der Grund sein, warum ich vom Ubuntu nicht auf mein RaspberryPI pingen kann, wenn ich mit Wlan (dhcp) verbunden bin. Bin ich übers Lan verbunden bin, geht das problemlos. hmm.. [18:41] <mrkramps> dreamon, gastzugang? [18:41] <mrkramps> getrennte netzwerke? [18:42] <dreamon> mrkramps, Nein beides übers gleiche Wlan verbunden(gleicher Router).. [18:43] <dreamon> Gastzugang ist deaktiviert. [18:43] <mrkramps> repeater dazwischen? [18:44] <dreamon> Nein, kein Repeater. Glaube wenn ich Ubuntu neu starte dann geht es. [18:54] <dreamon> Nein, ein Reboot hat nichts gebracht.. ich reboote mal den Router [19:12] <dreamon_> mrkramps, Ich hab im Raspberry nun was im wicd-curses auf globale dns umgestellt nun pingt es auf einmal.. ohne Probleme [19:12] <bekks> Hast du den Namen oder die IP gepingt? [19:13] <dreamon_> Die IP [19:13] <bekks> Dann hat die Umstellung des DNS nichts damit zu tun. [19:17] <dreamon_> hmm.. Ich habe zur Auswahl "statische DNS verwenden" oder "Globale DNS-Server verwenden" Ich hab statisch einen Haken dran. und bei DNS-Server 1 hab ich die IP vom Router eingetragen [19:17] <dreamon_> Was ist mit Global gemeint? [19:17] <bekks> Das hat NULL mit ICMP zu tun. [19:20] <dreamon_> Wie kann ich mir dann diese Erscheinung erklären? Warum konnte ich nicht gegeneinander Pingen? Eine Idee? [19:20] <bekks> Ich kenne weder dein System, noch weiß ich was du wo wie getan oder nicht getan hast. Rein technisch hat DNS nichts mit ICMP zu tun, daher ist deine Vermutung falsch. [19:22] <dreamon_> Wicd hat einige Einstellungen die ich vom normalen nm-manager kenne. Ich werde das besser mal längerfristig verfolgen. [19:28] <p01nt3r> nabend. kennt sich hier jemand mit ecma-script bezüglich avidemux-scripting aus? [19:30] <jokrebel> !frag > p01nt3r [19:30] <kubine> p01nt3r: Du brauchst nicht fragen, ob Du fragen darfst oder ob sich jemand auskennt. Das ist zwar höflich, würde aber den Channel sehr zuspammen, wenn dies jeder täte. Stell besser einfach Deine Frage – wenn jemand die Antwort kennt, wird er sie Dir nennen. [19:36] <uni67x> problem: BOOTabbruch mit dem Hinweis: es kann nicht auf ...table zugegrifen werden [19:36] <uni67x> ubuntu 14.04.2 LVM [19:36] <jokrebel> uni67x: Was ist ein PunktPunktPunkt Tabelle? [19:37] <uni67x> ich kann mich nicht erinnern, wie die table hieß [19:38] <uni67x> es ist eine tabelle die beim start generiert wird [19:38] <uni67x> ich denke , ess gab mehrere ERRORS :-( [19:44] <jokrebel> uni67x: Mach halt notfalls ein Foto und lad es wo hoch und paste dann den link dorthin. Aber bei LVM bin ich eh raus. [19:46] <uni67x> gibt es irgendwie ein check-system den ich vom Live-System aus durchstarten kann? [19:47] <bekks> Kommt auf die Fehler an. [19:48] <dreamon_> Seitdem ich mal ein "sudo touch /forcefsck" gemacht habe, wird hier die Festplatte bei jedem Reboot gestartet. Woran könnte das liegen? Er prüft jedesmal beide HDDs [19:48] <bekks> Am touch /forcefsck, welches Du erzwingst. [19:49] <uni67x> gibt es eiene FEHLER-log-datei, auf die ich zugreifen kann über LIVE-sys? [19:49] <dreamon_> Aber sollte er das nicht nach dem nächsten reboot, sein lassen? [19:49] <bekks> dreamon_: Wenn die Datei noch existiert, nicht. [19:50] <bekks> uni67x: Schau in /var/log/ nach [19:50] <uni67x> die ich euch zupasten kann? [19:51] <dreamon_> bekks, Demnach wird sie also nicht von alleine gelöscht? Ich dachte das würde ein erfolgreicher fsck von alleine tun. [19:51] <bekks> dreamon_: Schaunach ob sie noch existiert oder nicht. [19:52] <dreamon_> bekks, Nein sie Existiert noch.. du hast schon recht. [19:52] <bekks> dreamon_: Wie sieht deine /etc/fstab aus? [19:52] <ring0> dreamon_, normalerweise sollte die nach einem durchgang beim booten wieder gelöscht werden [19:54] <dreamon_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810875/ [19:54] <kubine> dreamon_: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com) [19:55] <bekks> Dank der 1 und 2 bei Pass ist doch klar warum das fsck jedes Mal läuft. [19:55] <uni67x> bekks: boot.log? [19:56] <bekks> uni67x: Ich habe keine Ahnung, in welchem Log Du den Fehler findest, den Du meinst. [19:57] <uni67x> und vovon hast du ahnung? [19:57] <bekks> Von Trollen wie Dir. [19:58] <uni67x> also wenn du davon ahnung hast dann weisst du welche log datei ich pasten soll, oder nicht? [19:58] <bekks> Hast Du verstanden was ich vorhin geschrieben habe? [19:59] <bekks> Da ich nicht weiß von welchem Fehler Du redest kann ich Dir auch nichts agen, in welches Log Du gucken musst. [19:59] <bekks> Das musst Du ganz alleine tun. [20:02] <dreamon_> bekks, Du kennst dich doch gut mit Virtualbox aus. Frage kann es ein, daß ich kein Supend to Ram hinbekomme, wenn in der Virutalen Maschine, "IO ACPI aktivieren" angehakt ist? leider kann ich diesen Haken nicht entfernen. Kann man da was gegen tun? [20:05] <bekks> dreamon_: Ich verwende kein Suspend To RAM, schon gar nicht auf Rechnern auf denen Virtualbox läuft. Aber ich empfehle Dir IO-APIC nicht zu deaktivieren, außer du willst eine grauenvolle Performance deiner VM erzwingen. [20:07] <dreamon_> Manchmal hab ich eine VM am laufen und packe den Laptop ein und dann passiert es, das die Kiste nicht "ausgeht", weil die VM das dann sperrt. Bis ich das immer peile ist der akku leer .. wenn ich pech habe überhitzt er in der Tasche. [20:07] <bekks> Dann pausiere die VM vorher. [20:09] <dreamon_> ja, das sollte ich mir angewöhnen. Eine andere VM hat das problem nicht. [20:33] <uni67x> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10811145/ [20:33] <kubine> uni67x: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com) [20:34] <uni67x> es ist ein file-sys problem [20:34] <mrkramps> uni67x, dann mach doch was da steht und lass eine dateisystemüberprüfung laufen [20:35] <bekks> Was ist ein "file-sys-Problem"? [20:35] <uni67x> den befehl e2fsck ? [20:36] <bekks> uni67x: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Dateisystemcheck [20:36] <kubine> bekks: Title: Dateisystemcheck › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de) [20:47] <uni67x> welcher befehl gibt HW-aufteilung aus? [20:47] <bekks> Kommt auf die HW an. [20:49] <uni67x> bist du einen supporter? wieso kommt es auf die HW an? [20:50] <mrkramps> uni67x, nicht auf die HW, sondern darauf, welche "aufteilung" du dir ausgeben lassen möchtest [20:50] <bekks> Weil die Befehle für untrerschiedliche HW unterschiedlich sind. [20:53] <uni67x> mrkramps: ok. verstanden. ich will jetzt den befehl sudo fsck.ext4 -v -f -c /dev/sda1 (hier boot-partition) auf die 2 Haupt-LVM-partirtion anwenden [20:55] <mrkramps> uni67x, und?! [20:55] <uni67x> mrkramps: dazu brauche ich angaben über aufteilung meines HDs [20:56] <bekks> parted, fdisk und gdisk können das. [20:57] <mrkramps> blkid [20:57] <ring0> lsblk [20:58] <bekks> Je nachdem was man wissen will, reicht auch ein df :) [21:00] <mrkramps> gewagt … [21:01] <uni67x> ich will sudo fsck.ext4 -v -f -c /dev/... ... über meine 2 partition laufen lassen.. ich weiß aber nicht welche bezeichnung sie hat... [21:01] <uni67x> sudo fsck.ext4 -v -f -c /dev/sda1 , also boot part habe ich durch [21:02] <bekks> sudo blkid -g; sudo blkid [21:02] <uni67x> passiert nix [21:03] <bekks> Ja, bei sudo blkid -g soll auch nix sichtbares passieren. [21:04] <uni67x> was passiert da UNSICHTBAR? [21:04] <bekks> "man blkid" wird es Dir verraten. [21:13] <uni67x> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10811403/ [21:13] <kubine> uni67x: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com) [21:14] <bekks> Das kann so nicht funktionieren. [21:14] <bekks> sda2 ist ein LVM container, kein ext4 Dateisystem. [21:14] <uni67x> ich sehe 2 probleme: kiene gültige partition table [21:14] <uni67x> und /dev/sda2 ist in use. [21:14] <bekks> Dann siehst Du Dinge, die einfach falsch sind. [21:15] <bekks> 1) hast du eine gültige Partitionstabelle, 2) ist sda2 kein ext4 Dateisystem sondern ein LVM Container. [21:15] <uni67x> bin anfänger. das darf ich mir erlauben [21:16] <uni67x> 1) wo? 2) das weiß ich [21:16] <uni67x> deshalb will ich [21:16] <bekks> Wenn Du 2) wüsstest, würdest du kein fsck darauf anwenden wollen. [21:16] <uni67x> fsck.ext4 -v -f -c /dev/sda2 starten [21:16] <bekks> Das ist FALSCH. [21:16] <bekks> sda2 ist KEIN ext4 Dateisystem. [21:17] <bekks> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Logical_Volume_Manager [21:17] <kubine> bekks: Title: Logical Volume Manager › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de) [21:19] <uni67x> kenne ich FAST auswendig!!! [21:19] <bekks> OFfensichtlich nicht. [21:20] <uni67x> hier sehe ich keine lösung für mein problem. [21:20] <bekks> Dann hast Du den Artikel nicht gelesen oder nicht verstanden. [21:20] <bekks> Ein LVM PV hat kein Partitionstabelle, weil es ein LVM PV ist. [21:20] <bekks> Die LV die Du in einem LVM anlegst, haben Dateisysteme, die Du prüfen kannst. [21:21] <bekks> Wie heissen die Volumes im LVM, die Du prüfen willst? [21:21] <uni67x> ah moment [21:21] <uni67x> moment [21:21] <uni67x> hab ich [21:21] <bekks> Was hast Du? [21:22] <uni67x> hallo [21:23] <uni67x> die heißen [21:23] <uni67x> 1 /dev/mapper/vg-home [21:23] <uni67x> 2 /dev/mapper/vg-root [21:24] <uni67x> die beiden [21:24] <uni67x> oder? [21:24] <bekks> Zeug uns doch bitte mal ein "lvdisplay -C" und ein "lsb_release -a". [21:24] <uni67x> sofort [21:25] <uni67x> 1 http://paste.ubuntu.com/10811467/ [21:25] <kubine> uni67x: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com) [21:26] <bekks> uni67x: sudo lvdisplay -C, so wie es in Zeile 4 steht. [21:27] <uni67x> 2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/10811474/ [21:27] <kubine> uni67x: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com) [21:29] <uni67x> sorry [21:29] <uni67x> 1 http://paste.ubuntu.com/10811482/ [21:29] <kubine> uni67x: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com) [21:29] <uni67x> :-) [21:30] <bekks> Dann weisst Du ja jetzt, was Du an deinem fsck Befehl ändern musst. [21:33] <uni67x> moment [21:33] <uni67x> ich denke nach [21:35] <uni67x> fsck./dev/mapper/vg-home -v -f -c /dev/sda2 && fsck./dev/mapper/root -v -f -c /dev/sda2 [21:35] <bekks> FALSCH. [21:35] <bekks> Immer noch. [21:35] <uni67x> ups [21:36] <bekks> Und das && ist auch falsch, das muss ein ; sein. [21:37] <uni67x> steht das in der unterlage über LVM drauf? [21:38] <bekks> Ich habe Dir vor 17 Minuten die Lösung genannt. [21:38] <bekks> Ich weiß ja nicht was Du so tust, aber lesen, zuhören, nachdenken, versuchen zu verstehen kann es jedenfalls nicht sein. [21:38] <bekks> Mit diesem Verhalten wünsche ich Dir weiterhin viel Glück. [21:42] <uni67x> fsck.vg-home -v -f -c /dev/sda2; fsck.root -v -f -c /dev/sda2 [21:42] <bekks> Noch viel falscher. [21:43] <bekks> Oder existiert bei Dir ein Befehl "fsck.vg-home"? [21:44] <uni67x> fsck./dev/mapper/vg-home -v -f -c; fsck./dev/mapper/root -v -f -c [21:44] <bekks> Nö. [21:44] <uni67x> aber besser, oder? [21:44] <bekks> Wir wäre es, wenn Du mal mit dem raten aufhörst, und die letzten 25 Minuten Backlog nochmal liest? [21:44] <bekks> Nein, völlig scheisse. [21:45] <k1l_> uni67x: ich hab die faxen dicke [21:47] <k1l_> uni67x: ich geb dir jetzt mal einen 15 minuten mute, damit du ganz in ruhe nachlesen kannst was du da eigentlich fabrizierst. weil du hast gar keine ahnung und kopierst nur irgendwoher befehle und das wird im desaster enden. also nimm die zeit und lies es nach [22:38] <uni67x> bekks: kannst du mir bitte diesen befehl aufschreiben? [22:39] <uni67x> ich will mich hinlegen, und über schönerer sachen nachdenken

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.424835

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-uy

[20:35] <ubuntero> hola [20:35] <ubuntero> hay alguien de ubuntu! [20:37] <ubuntero> quiero instalar la ultima versión en una partición del disco duro y en la otra window seven ... alguien me puede dar ideas? [20:38] <ubuntero> será otro dia! ja ! ...

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.428506

2015-04-12-#juju-gui

[14:13] <rick_h_> lazyPower: can you fill me in on what I'm looking for? [20:08] <lazyPower> rick_h_: it looks like it did what it needed to [20:09] <lazyPower> it was just much longer than the normal 1 hour propigation from dev => store (tyhpically 20 minutes, must have been a long ingest cycle) [20:09] <lazyPower> https://jujucharms.com/u/kubernetes/kubernetes/trusty/5 - the bump from 4 => 5 took > 1.3 hours (no idea how long it actually took, the push wait cycle was towards EOD on Friday)

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.429843

2015-04-12-#kubuntu-se

[18:13] <Flygisoft> Ne du Philip5 har inte kollat något på dom mobilerna faktiskt [18:14] <Flygisoft> Samsung och iPhone är ju vad dom flesta köper som bara är ute efter det "bästa" [18:14] <Flygisoft> känns det ju som iaf [18:37] <Philip5> ja men folk köper dem ju mycket för att andra köper dem och de ska liksom vara "de bästa" då [18:38] <Philip5> inte för att de är dåliga men det är ju sällan det är så mycket research bakom utan mer image om vad som är bäst och att följa alla andra [18:38] <Philip5> lite så som många köper kameror [20:53] <Flygisoft> Ja precis

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.433146

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-gnome

[03:09] <vve1505> Hey all - I'm a long time user of Ubuntu, but gnome for only a few months. I built a new system with a high-end nvidia card and I'm trying to load the dirvers. However all I get when I try to exit x-server is a black screen. Yes, I've hunted google to death, but none of the virtual shells are working for me. Does anyone out there have any advice? [03:10] <vve1505> I've also tried forcing boot to shell instead of gui - only to get errors and freeze when I try to reboot my computer. [03:44] <vve1505> BYE [03:44] <vve1505> bye [20:33] <tuchkata> hi, does anyone here use Gnome 3.16? [20:37] <tuchkata> and if yes, how is it working with ubuntu [20:52] <tuchkata> ping [21:08] <Noskcaj> tuchkata, A few people are using it already, via our PPA. No major issues so far [22:15] <darkxst> tuchkata, 3.16 is mostly working well

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.436396

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-server

[00:00] <jvwjgames> Hi how do i make a python program continue to run even after i close the console [00:01] <sarnold> jvwjgames: a few ways, use screen or tmux if you want to come back to it later, perhaps from another terminal or ssh/mosh session [00:02] <sarnold> jvwjgames: you could use nohup /path/to/program.py & -- which willbackgronud it and tell it to ignore the HUP signal that would be sent to it when the shell dies [00:02] <jvwjgames> ok [00:02] <sarnold> jvwjgames: you could convert the program to run as a daemon, thuogh that takes some real work [00:03] <sarnold> jvwjgames: or youj could run it via cron or upstart or something [00:04] <jvwjgames> ok [00:04] <jvwjgames> cause it is an irc bot used only for my irc server i have hosted on my servers [00:07] <jvwjgames> and it is annoying to see the irc bot on the channel then i close the shell and then have it say jvwjgames-bot (~willie@127.0.0.1) has quit IRC (Quit: bye.) [00:11] <sarnold> jvwjgames: since it's a service you want running all the time, I'd suggest the upstart job then :) [00:11] <sarnold> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ [00:13] <dasjoe> I'd probably just launch it in a tmux, or simply nohup it [00:16] <jvwjgames> hmm [00:17] <jvwjgames> i installed willie but can't find it [00:17] <jvwjgames> and yes i used locate but no resultes [00:18] <sarnold> locate's database is only updated at 4am or something uless you run a manual updatedb ... [00:18] <sarnold> if you installed willie via dpkg, dpkg -S willie ought to help [00:19] <jvwjgames> found it thanks [00:20] <jvwjgames> but i looked in the directory that it siad it was in but it is not there but i can still access it [00:20] <jvwjgames> it might be because it is .willie [00:20] <sarnold> ls -a [00:22] <jvwjgames> is there a way to use nohup but run it as a non root user [00:23] <jvwjgames> Error: Do not run Willie with root privileges. [00:24] <sarnold> jvwjgames: nohup writes the output from the command you run to a file named nohup.out in the current working directory [00:24] <jvwjgames> ok [00:24] <sarnold> jvwjgames: so you need to either (a) fix the ermissions in the current working directory or (b) change the current working directory to where you want the log written and permissions will make sense [00:25] <jvwjgames> ok [00:25] <jvwjgames> also with nohup will it also ignore crt +c [00:26] <sarnold> right, the process is no longer attached to a terminal [00:28] <jvwjgames> hmm well it didn't work [00:30] <jvwjgames> nevermind fixed it [00:34] <jvwjgames> sarnold: can i pm you [00:35] <sarnold> jvwjgames: I'm leaving in about five minutes.. channel would be best, that waysomeone else can pick up when I leave [00:35] <jvwjgames> ok [00:35] <jvwjgames> i was going to have you connect to my irc server really quick but i can do it later [00:38] <sarnold> aha :) good luck testing it jvwjgames :) [00:39] <jvwjgames> is there a way to make a user have write privlages on a dir that is already owned by root [01:31] <jvwjgames> hmm i need help with something else [01:31] <jvwjgames> qwebirc requires twisted (at least 8.2.0), see http://twistedmatrix.com/ [01:32] <jvwjgames> python-twisted is already the newest version. [01:32] <jvwjgames> python-twisted-bin is already the newest version. [01:32] <jvwjgames> python-twisted-core is already the newest version. [01:32] <jvwjgames> python-twisted-mail is already the newest version. [01:32] <jvwjgames> python-twisted-names is already the newest version. [01:32] <jvwjgames> python-twisted-runner is already the newest version. [01:32] <jvwjgames> python-twisted-web is already the newest version. [01:32] <jvwjgames> python-twisted-words is already the newest version. [03:37] <Power_Super> Hi on a server lets say one of the cgi scripts uses a csv file to read / write some data, where should this csv file be [03:37] <Power_Super> in the same place as the index.html etc or in cgi-bin [03:37] <jvwjgames> sarnold: you there] [04:03] <delinquentme> at current /mnt is owned only by root ... will it mess things up if I add additional users who can write to this ? [05:51] <neosilver-gk> hallo [05:57] <neosilver-gk> I've get a problem with my Teamspeak 3 movement to a new vServer. The installation was fine and without any error, but ca. 25 minutes after starting the server it crashes and write just a small error in the apport.log . [08:57] <lordievader> Good morning. [09:28] <Exagone313> Hello, I try to install "awesome" on Ubuntu server. First, I installed the package awesome, and after reboot I had a tty. So I installed lightdm, reboot, and I see the GUI of Unity connection, and when I write my password, it says "failed to start session". Also, I've a resolution problem that I didn't have before installing lightdm, both on tty and lightdm interface. My screen is like... [09:28] <Exagone313> ..."zoomed". What can I do? Thanks for helping. [09:33] <lordievader> Blegh, a gui on a server. [09:33] <lordievader> Exagone313: Anyhow, what videocard/driver do you use? [09:34] <Exagone313> it's not a server [09:34] <lordievader> Exagone313: Then I suppose your question is more fruitfull in #ubuntu. [09:34] <Exagone313> AMD RADEON HD 6450 [09:35] <Exagone313> and the processor is an i3 [09:35] <Exagone313> they sent me here [09:36] <lordievader> That is odd. Server guys hang around in here. They usually dislike desktops... [09:36] <lordievader> Exagone313: What driver are you running though? [09:36] <Exagone313> the default one [09:37] <Exagone313> it's a fresh install [09:37] <Exagone313> I just installed awesome and lightdm packages [09:37] <Exagone313> I restart, I remove lightdm to install only lightdm-gtk-greeter, maybe it will work [09:37] <lordievader> Exagone313: You do get lightdm? [09:38] <Exagone313> it appears, yes, but I can't log in it [09:38] <Exagone313> within it [09:38] <Exagone313> "failed to start session" [09:38] <lordievader> Right, that is a Unity problem (or lightdm). Really has nothing to do with Ubuntu Server. [09:39] <Exagone313> I don't want to install unity, that's the point [09:39] <lordievader> And since I know nothing about Unity I cannot help you. [09:39] <Exagone313> I want to install awesome [09:39] <lordievader> Then it is a problem there. Still not with Ubuntu Server. [09:39] <lordievader> For a hint on the problem, check the logs. [12:13] <nszceta> what do you guys use to host personal repositories of your own custom packages? [12:14] <nszceta> ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal [17:06] <jvwjgames> sarnold: Hi how are you [22:43] <Crossfire0mega> anyone know anything about Ubuntu MAAS server?

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.442037

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-ci-eng

[02:10] <imgbot> [03:50] <imgbot> [03:50] <imgbot> [13:10] <popey> cihelp: (possibly fginther as he last touched it) calc reboot is doing two jenkins jobs per merge. https://code.launchpad.net/~nikwen/ubuntu-calculator-app/reboot-white-splash-screen/+merge/255912

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.445400

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-translators

[14:15] <sasa84> hello [14:16] <sasa84> there is 1 string in sudoku app that it's not translated (http://projects.davidplanella.org/stats/vivid/sl). but launchpad says we've done it all. anyone with similar problem?

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.448039

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-si

[08:12] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie zdobbie zdobbie [08:12] <CrazyLemon> kdaj začne prenos na eurosportu? [08:32] <zdobbie> r11:45 [08:32] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: 11:45 [08:32] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: ... GMT [08:32] <zdobbie> 12:45 za nas [08:33] <idioterna> smo napredval eno uro prot zahodu [08:33] <idioterna> jesen se bomo pa spet prot sovjetski zvezi obrnl [09:03] <zdobbie> taki smo [09:37] <CrazyLemon> ste! [09:47] <CrazyLemon> http://www.siol.net/novice/znanost_in_okolje/2015/04/presaditev_glave.aspx [09:47] <Seniorita> Javil se je prostovoljec za prvo presaditev človeške glave | Znanost in okolje - Planet Siol.net [09:47] <Seniorita> »Rus Valerij Spidonov bo postal prvi človek, ki mu bodo odstranili glavo in jo presadili na drugo telo. Kirurgi opozarjajo, da lahko v primeru ponesrečene operacije doživi usodo, hujšo od smrti.« [09:47] <jabuk> when I see that I’ve left a debug line in production http://i.imgur.com/cbQQwTb.gif [09:47] <jabuk> when I am going to home on friday night http://i.imgur.com/K8XI4hG.gif [10:02] <zdobbie> da vidim to usodo ... [10:04] <idioterna> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-32274107 [10:04] <Seniorita> Australia to stop welfare cash of anti-vaccine parents - BBC News [10:04] <Seniorita> »The Australian government announces its intention to stop welfare payments to parents who refuse to vaccinate their children.« [10:26] <CrazyLemon> http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2015/04/youtube-tests-new-video-player-for.html [10:26] <Seniorita> YouTube Tests New Video Player for Desktop [11:14] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: jih ze mece [11:18] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie sm vidu ja [11:31] <dz0ny> http://sceper.ws/2015/04/game-of-thrones-s05e04-hdtv-x264-xclusive.html [11:31] <Seniorita> Game of Thrones S05E04 HDTV x264-Xclusive | Sceper [11:31] <Seniorita> »Your source for all Scene and P2P Movies, TV Shows, Games, Magazines, Music and more!« [11:31] <dz0ny> :) [11:40] <anny_> CrazyLemon: nas že meče :) [11:45] <CrazyLemon> anny_ a si bila na istrskem maratonu? ツ [11:45] <anny_> ne [11:45] <anny_> grem pa v radence :) [11:45] <CrazyLemon> but why.. lepo vreme, lepe temperature, lepa proga! [11:45] <CrazyLemon> meh..radenci nimajo morja ツ [11:45] <anny_> jeba....delam naloge za programiranje :) [11:46] <CrazyLemon> excuses excuses :D [11:46] <anny_> zaključujem 4 online course naenkrat [11:48] <anny_> aha...da ne omenjam, da se učim programski jezik v tujem jeziku, razmišljam v slovenščini, hkrati pa skušam dekodirati še vaš žargon :) to je preklapljanje med 4! jeziki [11:48] <jabuk> When a coworker asks me to explain my code after my two weeks holidays http://tclhost.com/QET1yOu.gif [11:49] <anny_> simultani prevajalci iz enega v drugega so cunja po 10. 15 minutah [11:49] <CrazyLemon> vsi smo se učili programirat v tujem jeziku [11:50] <anny_> ne vsi [11:50] <anny_> tisti s faksa že ne [11:50] * CrazyLemon se učil na faksu programirat [11:50] <anny_> no, ne napihuj se [11:50] <CrazyLemon> in razn tega da je na faksu string = niz pa tabela = array ni drugih razlik ツ [11:51] <CrazyLemon> ne napihujem se.. no mogoče po teh čokoladnih jajčkih se bom [11:51] <CrazyLemon> ne vem še! [11:51] <anny_> aint worth [11:51] <anny_> zdaj pa grem ven teč s kolegico [11:51] <CrazyLemon> pejt [11:52] <anny_> <3 [11:52] * CrazyLemon gre na kavč uživat v zadnjih 100km paris-roubaix [11:52] <anny_> tudi jaz te ljubim [11:52] <anny_> lp [11:56] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: attention! [11:56] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: Troue d'Arenberg! [11:56] <zdobbie> Trouee [11:56] <zdobbie> but whatevz [11:56] <idioterna> il ya un trou dans arenberg [11:57] <zdobbie> nog 10km [12:09] <zdobbie> evo ga [12:19] <zdobbie> dobr so skoz prsl [12:28] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie they are fckin nuts [12:29] <CrazyLemon> a mislijo da se bo TGV ustavu ko jih vidi na progi? [12:33] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: qui se passe? [12:33] <zdobbie> quoi [12:33] <zdobbie> but whatevz [13:11] <CrazyLemon> wat [13:12] <jabuk> http://a.kym-cdn.com/assets/blank-b3f96f160b75b1b49b426754ba188fe8.gif [13:12] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie a nisi gledal? [13:20] <zdobbie> kafe sem kuhu [13:22] <zdobbie> Bozo je aktiven [13:22] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: Sagan je su kakat https://twitter.com/TheRaceRadio/status/587244037964492800 [13:22] <Seniorita> Race Radio auf Twitter: "Sagan appears to be feeling better after his visit to the bushes http://t.co/jDyuQu2DdT" [13:36] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie lol [14:26] <mkode> koliko vas uporablja nodejs v sluzbi? [14:44] <idioterna> mkode: ne vem, ampak jaz ga [14:45] <mkode> men je kul, ker je isti jezik na klientu in serverju [14:45] <idioterna> men je vseen, k clientov nikol ne vidm :) [14:45] <idioterna> pa ce bi python delu na clientu bi blo cist nice [14:46] <mkode> se pa recimo na slotechu med zaposlitvami zelo redko pojavi [14:46] <idioterna> kaj, node? [14:46] <mkode> ja [14:46] <idioterna> to se itak v 10 minutah naucis, ce rabis znat [15:34] <mkode> idioterna: Si se kdaj ubadal z heavy cpu - blocking kodo v nodeu? A si to resil z klicanjem lastnih JSON servisov v drugem jeziku? [16:38] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA-84SIFnSo [16:38] <Seniorita> Train interfeers with Paris - Roubaix 2015 HD - YouTube [16:38] <Seniorita> »Site: http://www.CyclingHub.tv Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/Cyclinghub1 Twitter: http://twitter.com/lecyclinghub Watch more Cycling here: http://cycling...« [17:07] <zdobbie> lol [17:10] <sasa84_> ooo zdobbie [17:13] <zdobbie> hyya sasa84_ [17:15] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: http://inrng.tumblr.com/post/116210141618 [17:25] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ni mu kaj preveč pomagalo [17:25] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: 5km to cilja je mel defekt [17:25] <zdobbie> pol je tko potratu prevec moci, da je prsu nazaj do grupe [17:26] <CrazyLemon> božič je bil kr dober [17:27] <zdobbie> ja [17:27] <zdobbie> aktiven zlo [17:27] <zdobbie> sam Boom ni mogu okol prpelat [17:32] <zdobbie> ma dobr, 4. je bil [17:32] <CrazyLemon> mhm [17:42] <sasa84_> juhuuuuu zdobbie [17:42] <sasa84_> .imdb emperor [17:42] <jabuk> Emperor (2012) 105 min Drama History [17:42] <jabuk> Ocena: 6.5/10 (8,934 glasov) MT: 48/100 [17:42] <jabuk> As the Japanese surrender at the end of WWII, Gen. Fellers is tasked with deciding if Emperor Hirohito will be hanged as a war criminal. Influencing his ruling is his quest to find Aya, an exchange student he met years earlier in the U.S. [17:42] <jabuk> Trailer: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi790800153/ [17:42] <jabuk> Povezava: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2103264/ [17:44] <zdobbie> blewdy HBO [17:44] <zdobbie> vse dajo danes ven [17:46] <idioterna> mkode: ne v node pa ne [17:46] <idioterna> mkode: ampak node je glede tega precej storast [17:47] <idioterna> ce hoces cpu bound taske laufat vzporedno potem hoces javo, scalo, go, c#, erlang, c++ [18:28] <dz0ny> sasa84_: a se kaj kadi :D? [18:46] <zdobbie> a kaj kurite? [18:46] <idioterna> php programerje. [18:47] <CrazyLemon> lol [18:47] <zdobbie> voljno. [18:48] <idioterna> a to je po slovensk "as you were" al pa "carry on" [18:48] <jabuk> "OK, let’s continue this meeting after lunch" http://tclhost.com/IjxJsAg.gif [18:48] <CrazyLemon> idioterna a nisi bil v vojski? [18:48] <idioterna> ne, seveda ne [18:48] <idioterna> CrazyLemon: https://bou.si/rest/achievments.jpg [18:49] <CrazyLemon> aja točno [18:49] <idioterna> nespo! [18:49] <idioterna> for life! [18:49] <idioterna> nism se pritozil [18:49] <idioterna> ceprav sem mel moznost. [18:52] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: torej sem jst bil? [18:53] <zdobbie> wat en de-patriot [18:56] <anny_> GoT ušel ali "ušel" na torrente? [18:57] <CrazyLemon> "ušel" [18:58] <anny_> aha, se mi je zdelo [18:58] <anny_> pametna marketinška poteza [19:01] <CrazyLemon> aja..ne vem če je tko :D [19:07] <idioterna> anny_: naporni spisi so [19:08] <idioterna> anny_: ampak mi je vsec da vsi skupi bolj ali manj vse zajamejo [19:08] <idioterna> kar je te filozofije [19:12] <sasa84_> dz0ny: kadi? :D [19:12] <dz0ny> sasa84_: neki so zakurl pr vas [19:12] <dz0ny> cigaretni ogorek [19:12] <dz0ny> travnik [19:13] <sasa84_> a to je blo dans? sm slišala 1x zvečer gasilce [19:13] <sasa84_> vajo so mel pa včeri se i zdi [19:15] <sasa84_> dz0ny: jp, v bližini delskega mosta [19:15] <sasa84_> fb stran pgd rakek :D [19:15] <sasa84_> dz0ny: pa pišuka...kok to, da ti prej zveč k jst? :D [19:20] <CrazyLemon> ker on ima pager! [19:24] <sasa84_> am CrazyLemon ... če se ne motm, pager obvešča sam tiste, k se jih to zadeva :P [19:24] <dz0ny> sms :) [19:24] <CrazyLemon> sasa84_ ker on ima sms! [19:24] <sasa84_> ja, zdej mate še smse...pa pager v skrajni sili :D [19:25] <sasa84_> CrazyLemon: dz0ny je pgd bp, naši so pgd rakek [19:25] <CrazyLemon> sasa84_ so?!? [19:25] <sasa84_> ne dobiva on smsov za rakek :P [19:25] <sasa84_> .gif sillylemon [19:25] <jabuk> No gif available :( [19:26] <sasa84_> LOL [19:26] <sasa84_> v glavnem dragi moj CrazyLemon ... gledam film john wick :D [19:26] <sasa84_> dobr je! [19:27] <CrazyLemon> sasa84_ zakaj ne bi bil dober? [19:29] <zdobbie> .imdb john wick [19:29] <jabuk> John Wick (2014) 101 min Action Thriller [19:29] <jabuk> Ocena: 7.2/10 (143,376 glasov) MT: 68/100 [19:29] <jabuk> An ex-hitman comes out of retirement to track down the gangsters that took everything from him. [19:29] <jabuk> Trailer: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi2273816345/ [19:29] <jabuk> Povezava: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2911666/ [19:29] <zdobbie> < 7.5 [19:29] <zdobbie> zato [19:29] <dz0ny> daredevil je kul [19:29] <dz0ny> pa se jessica igra [19:29] <dz0ny> pol pa še got [19:29] <dz0ny> konc me bo [19:30] <sasa84_> .imdb daredevil [19:30] <jabuk> Daredevil (TV Series 2015– ) 60 min Action Sci Fi [19:30] <jabuk> Ocena: 9.4/10 (14,286 glasov) MT: 60 user [19:30] <jabuk> A blind lawyer with his other senses superhumanly enhanced fights crime as a costumed superhero. [19:30] <jabuk> Trailer: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi1377743129/ [19:30] <jabuk> Povezava: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3322312/ [19:30] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie you just zip it! we know you're a rotten tomatoes whore! [19:34] <sasa84_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD20Yg8XqNs&feature=youtu.be [19:34] <Seniorita> LG F1222TD Direct Drive Washing Machine : cotton 95 medic rinse + intensive - YouTube [19:34] <Seniorita> »washing a full load of whites with tea towels and 2 hankies on Cotton 95 with Medic Rinse and Intensive options selected menu: load: 0:30 start and sensed: 3...« [19:34] <sasa84_> am... [19:34] <sasa84_> wtf je tole :D [19:37] <CrazyLemon> a ni očitno? [19:37] <CrazyLemon> umazane gate je dal not.. nato je počakal uro pa pol [19:37] <CrazyLemon> in je čiste gate dal vn [19:41] <anny_> irc je lopou! [19:43] <CrazyLemon> preklet naj bo! [19:44] <anny_> tako je! (ukradeno od skupine pred Ustavnim sodiščem) [19:46] <anny_> http://www.siol.net/novice/svet/2015/04/hillary_clinton_predsedniske_volitve_zda.aspx [19:46] <Seniorita> Hillary Clinton si želi postati prva predsednica ZDA (video) | Svet - Planet Siol.net [19:46] <Seniorita> »Nekdanja senatorka in državna sekretarka Hillary Clinton se je odločila, da vstopi v predsedniško dirko za volitve leta 2016, je sporočila v spletnem videu.« [19:46] <anny_> me zanima, kako se bosta gledali z Angelco [19:47] <dz0ny> who? [19:47] <zdobbie> OH HILLARY [19:48] <anny_> damn....clinton bo prva dama [19:48] <anny_> hillybilly [19:53] <sasa84_> dejmo hilči :P [19:54] <sasa84_> a bo bla z billom al s svojo bejbo? [19:54] <anny_> girl power [19:54] <sasa84_> *samvprašam* [19:54] <anny_> navijamo za bejbo [19:54] <sasa84_> jaz tud [19:54] <anny_> bill je bil v hiši samo zaradi nje [19:54] <sasa84_> in god we trust! [19:55] <anny_> amen [19:55] <anny_> sasa84_ kako kaj doktorat? [19:57] <sasa84_> in god we trust! [19:57] <sasa84_> :D [19:58] <sasa84_> gre... v svojem ritmu :) [19:59] <anny_> emmm...poznamo :) [19:59] <sasa84_> svari rabjo cajt, da dozorijo :D [20:00] <sasa84_> krajnca težko prepričujem v to :P [20:00] <anny_> on ima svoj ritem [20:00] <anny_> dve prestavi [20:00] <sasa84_> on bi rad 12valjnika... mi pa furamo fičkota :P [20:01] <anny_> saj se ga da malo sfrizirati [20:01] <sasa84_> ampak ne smeš prevet navit mašine, ker lohk crkne :\ [20:01] <anny_> res [20:02] <anny_> glede na zadnje škandale bi ti ga lahko tudi kdo napisal :) [20:02] <anny_> za okroglo cifroi [20:04] <sasa84_> ooo, dobra ideja! [20:04] <sasa84_> sam kaj, ko kar uživam v tem... svoj tempo in tko ;) [20:05] <anny_> pridna punca [20:10] <anny_> sporoči, ko bo, da pridemo na zakusko :) [20:21] <sasa84_> anny_: sej ne vem, če se še to dela :D [20:21] <anny_> ne več [20:21] <sasa84_> po diplomi se samo mentorja+somentorja povabla na kosilo [20:21] <anny_> uradno [20:21] <anny_> zdaj se tudi na kosilo ne povabi več [20:22] <anny_> vsakemu liter vina, da se zapije od žalosti, ker te ne bo več naokoli [20:22] <sasa84_> kolega, ko je imel zagovor dr na ff, je povabil vse na pijačo [20:22] <sasa84_> lol... krajncu požrla par let in skliznla pol :P [20:23] <Sky[x]> :D

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.464858

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-africa

[05:02] <Kilos> helloooo africa [06:21] <Kilos> hi ongolaBoy [14:20] <Kilos> hi d4rk-5c0rp [14:20] <d4rk-5c0rp> hi Kilos [14:20] <Kilos> kick anis [14:21] <d4rk-5c0rp> why x) [14:21] <Kilos> he is supposed to find neo32 so we can get the mailing list address for our site [14:22] <d4rk-5c0rp> I will [14:22] <Kilos> ty , it will go online soon i think [14:23] <d4rk-5c0rp> yeah [14:23] <Kilos> looks like tunisia is in a permanent sleep mode [14:23] <d4rk-5c0rp> I do think so [14:23] <Kilos> haha [21:09] <Kilos> here is our mailing list and launchpad team join link guys [21:10] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.468398

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-vn

[01:38] <vubuntor067> mấy bác cho em hỏi [01:38] <vubuntor067> sao mà đang dùng ubuntu [01:38] <vubuntor067> tự nhiên nó đứng cứng ngắc luôn vây [01:39] <vubuntor067> mà chuột thì hoạt động bình thường [01:39] <vubuntor067> bàn phím vẫn sáng chuyển sang cosole thì vẫn đc [01:39] <vubuntor067> có mỗi giao diện là đứng [01:45] <n0bawk> vubuntor067: bạn đang dùng cái gì? [01:45] <n0bawk> vubuntor067: giao diện unity à? [01:47] <vubuntor067> dạ em dùng cinnamon bác ơi [01:52] <vubuntor067> em vừa search thấy có cái gì core dump đó bác không biết có dùng đc ko [01:56] <n0bawk> có thể cái gì nó bị treo thì nó như thế thôi :D [01:57] <vubuntor067> thế có cách nào loại bỏ nó không bác [01:57] <vubuntor067> giống như pkill nó đi đó bác [01:58] <n0bawk> logout rồi login lại? [01:58] <vubuntor067> em muốn nó đc hệ thống tự động pkill nó luôn [01:58] <n0bawk> chắc ko có [01:58] <vubuntor067> tại em logout với login ko đc [01:59] <vubuntor067> nó đứng cứng ngắc luôn [01:59] <vubuntor067> chỉ chuyển sang cosole thì đc [02:00] <vubuntor067> em nghe nói có core dump gì gì đó [02:00] <vubuntor067> nhưng ko biết làm sao để có đc nó [02:01] <n0bawk> ctrl + alt + f1 [02:01] <n0bawk> đăng nhập rồi kill nó? [02:01] <vubuntor067> em làm thử rồi nhưng có biết cái nào đâu mà kill [02:02] <n0bawk> kill thằng nào chạy gui? [02:02] <n0bawk> ko thì cứ kill thẳng thằng x rồi start nó lại :)) [02:03] <vubuntor067> thế thì mấy chương trình em đang chạy phải chạy lại hết àk [02:03] <vubuntor067> :(( [02:08] <n0bawk> nếu bạn ko xác định được chương trình nào làm nó bị như thế [02:08] <n0bawk> thì khả năng lớn là phải như thế :D [02:17] <vubuntor067> :(( [02:17] <vubuntor067> vậy là nó không có chương trình gì tự đóng rồi post lỗi lên giống centos hả bác [02:18] <n0bawk> 1 thằng nào đấy bị lỗi [02:18] <n0bawk> mà nó ko chết [02:18] <n0bawk> thì làm sao mà biết được [02:18] <n0bawk> kể cả centos cũng ko biết đuowjc [02:19] <vubuntor067> vậy chỉ cần nó hơi đơ thôi là kill nó [02:19] <vubuntor067> đc ko bác [02:20] <n0bawk> khổ [02:20] <n0bawk> đơ đấy là bạn biết [02:20] <n0bawk> còn máy nó ko biết [02:20] <vubuntor067> :3 [02:20] <n0bawk> 1 thread nó bị lock bởi 1 cái gì đấy [02:20] <n0bawk> có chúa mới biét [02:20] <n0bawk> và thế là nó đơ [02:20] <vubuntor067> vậy có phần mềm nào gần giống vậy ko bác [02:20] <n0bawk> tự xác định vì sao nó bị đơ [02:21] <vubuntor067> tương đối thôi [02:21] <n0bawk> và làm cho nó ko đơ nữa [02:21] <n0bawk> còn chả có phần mềm nào xác định đuợc cả [02:21] <vubuntor067> vậy mà em dùng centos lại ko bị vậy :(( [02:21] <n0bawk> thế thì dùng centos đi [02:22] <vubuntor067> nhưng em ko thích dùng [02:22] <n0bawk> ok [02:23] <vubuntor067> có cách nào ko bác [02:23] <vubuntor067> :(( [02:23] <MrTuxHdb> đếu thích dùng thì dùng centos [02:24] <MrTuxHdb> mịa [02:24] <MrTuxHdb> Cinnamon có phải offical của Ubuntu đếu đâu [02:24] <vubuntor067> em đang nói là em ko thích dùng centos [02:24] <vubuntor067> :(( [02:26] <vubuntor067> bác thấy cái core dump nó sao [02:26] <MrTuxHdb> core dump cái gì [02:27] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: CentOS có chạy Cinnamon đếu đâu [02:27] <MrTuxHdb> chưa kể nó là đồ server [02:27] <MrTuxHdb> cái gì cũng cũ và stable [02:27] <MrTuxHdb> so sánh vớ vẩn vãi [02:28] <vubuntor067> em nghe nói là cái core dump là nó đc sinh ra để kill mấy cái ứng dụng lỗi [02:28] <MrTuxHdb> .g core dump [02:28] <SuperLuserv3> MrTuxHdb: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_dump [02:28] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: nghe nói ở đâu :3 [02:29] <vubuntor067> google dịch [02:29] <vubuntor067> :3 [02:29] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: thế đi chết luôn đi [02:30] <vubuntor067> đấy bác đọc xem [02:31] <vubuntor067> nó dừng chương trình đấy [02:31] <MrTuxHdb> ờ [02:31] * MrTuxHdb dốt [02:31] * MrTuxHdb đi coi porn tiếp [02:32] <vubuntor067> porn :3 [02:32] <n0bawk> crashed [02:33] <n0bawk> vubuntor067: bạn có hiểu crashed là gì ko [02:33] <n0bawk> nếu ko hiểu thì tốt nhất là nên quay về cái gì table [02:33] <n0bawk> stable** [02:33] <vubuntor067> em chỉ hiểu nôm na nó là lỗi [02:33] <n0bawk> như centos :D [02:33] <vubuntor067> :(( [02:33] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: thế đếu hiểu [02:33] <MrTuxHdb> rồi bắt người khác đọc [02:33] <MrTuxHdb> như kiểu biết cmn rồi á [02:33] <MrTuxHdb> =)) [02:33] <MrTuxHdb> vãi google dịch [02:33] <MrTuxHdb> :3 [02:33] <n0bawk> +1 xài centos [02:34] <n0bawk> rất ngon rất stable [02:34] <n0bawk> :)) [02:34] <n0bawk> đừng cài cắm thêm cái gì ngoài repo của nó là ok [02:34] <vubuntor067> tại em cũng thử pkill x rồi [02:35] <vubuntor067> nhưng mà kết qủa nó đứng và đen xì luôn [02:35] <vubuntor067> phím và chuôt ở cosole đều ko chạy đc [02:35] <n0bawk> kill rồi [02:35] <MrTuxHdb> console tty thì lấy đâu chuột với phím [02:35] <MrTuxHdb> =)) [02:35] <n0bawk> thì phải start nó lại [02:35] <n0bawk> :)) [02:35] <n0bawk> ko thì ngon nhất là stop lightdm [02:36] <n0bawk> sau đó start lại [02:36] <n0bawk> nó tự kill x và start lại x [02:36] <MrTuxHdb> dùng mẹ unity đi [02:36] <MrTuxHdb> freeze thì start lại unity là lại ngon [02:36] <vubuntor067> :3 [02:37] <vubuntor067> àk mà cái ibus-unikey [02:37] <vubuntor067> sao cấp này nó bị lỗi đánh dấu sai vị trí hoài vậy mấy bác [02:37] <vubuntor067> ví dụ như qủa [02:37] <vubuntor067> chuột [02:38] <vubuntor067> chuột [02:38] <vubuntor067> ok chuột ngon lại rồi :3 [02:38] <MrTuxHdb> cái chó gì cũng đổ lỗi tại phần mềm [02:38] <MrTuxHdb> =)) [02:39] <vubuntor067> thì em có biết đâu [02:40] <vubuntor067> em chỉ biết dùng nó thì lại đánh dấu sai [02:40] <n0bawk> bọn lạp trình viên là dởm hết :)) [02:40] <vubuntor067> trong khi hồi lần em dùng nó tốt lắm [02:40] <vubuntor067> em nghi chắc có ai sửa lại [02:40] <MrTuxHdb> sao em đếu nghi là em dốt [02:40] <MrTuxHdb> dùng sai cách hở em [02:40] <MrTuxHdb> :3 [02:41] <vubuntor067> thế dùng sao cho đúng chử qủa hả bác [02:41] <vubuntor067> chữ [02:41] <vubuntor067> :3 [02:42] <MrTuxHdb> ấy chẳng qua là vì bạn gõ sai chuẩn [02:42] <MrTuxHdb> gõ bố láo [02:42] <vubuntor067> vãi cả sai chuẩn [02:42] <MrTuxHdb> hoặc đặt option sai [02:42] <vubuntor067> trong khi hồi lần em vẫn gõ vậy [02:42] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: ờ thế giỏi rồi [02:42] * MrTuxHdb bò bò đi [02:42] <vubuntor067> ơ bác chỉ em đi [02:43] <vubuntor067> có gì em còn chỉ người khác nữa [02:44] <MrTuxHdb> đếu quan tâm [02:44] <MrTuxHdb> :3 [02:45] <vubuntor067> ơ [02:46] <vubuntor067> quả [02:46] <vubuntor067> =]]]]zzz [02:46] <vubuntor067> em đánh đc rồi [02:47] <vubuntor067> quả đã đúng trở lại [02:47] <vubuntor067> :3 [02:47] <vubuntor067> phải chỉnh trong macro bác àk [02:47] <vubuntor067> mà cấp này em thấy mọi người bỏ ko dùng ibus unikey nữa [02:47] <MrTuxHdb> đếu phải đâu [02:48] <vubuntor067> mà dùng cái gì đó [02:48] <MrTuxHdb> tại em dốt ấy ạ [02:48] <MrTuxHdb> anh giỏi nên anh mới tìm ra được chỗ đấy [02:48] <MrTuxHdb> chung quy là tại người làm phần mềm dốt [02:48] <MrTuxHdb> ngồi hàng tháng code software [02:48] <vubuntor067> _ _!! [02:48] <MrTuxHdb> không được bạn trả đồng nào [02:48] <vubuntor067> người viết phần mềm mà dốt [02:48] <vubuntor067> thì sao mà có đc phần mềm hả bác [02:49] <vubuntor067> bác nói nghe chướng tai quá [02:49] <MrTuxHdb> nên nó không phục vụ được bạn [02:49] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: bạn nói chướng tai từ lúc vào đây đến giờ rồi [02:49] <MrTuxHdb> =)) [02:49] <MrTuxHdb> :3 [02:49] <vubuntor067> bác nghĩ vậy thì có [02:49] * MrTuxHdb nghe nhột hết cả @$$ [02:49] <vubuntor067> em chỉ báo lỗi thôi chứ có làm gì đâu [02:50] <MrTuxHdb> 09:26 < vubuntor067> bác thấy cái core dump nó sao [02:50] <MrTuxHdb> 09:29 < vubuntor067> em nghe nói là cái core dump là nó đc sinh ra để kill mấy cái ứng dụng lỗi [02:50] <MrTuxHdb> 09:29 < MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: nghe nói ở đâu :3 [02:50] <MrTuxHdb> 09:29 < vubuntor067> google dịch [02:50] <MrTuxHdb> 09:29 < vubuntor067> :3 [02:50] <MrTuxHdb> 09:31 < vubuntor067> đấy bác đọc xem [02:50] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: ^ [02:50] <vubuntor067> cái ibus-unikey kìa [02:50] <MrTuxHdb> thái độ [02:50] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: hơn nữa [02:50] <MrTuxHdb> đấy cứt phải lỗi [02:50] <MrTuxHdb> người dùng ngu [02:50] <MrTuxHdb> thì đừng đổ tội cho phần mềm [02:50] <MrTuxHdb> end story [02:50] <vubuntor067> bác nói vậy sao đc. [02:51] <vubuntor067> phần mềm đc viết ra để phục vụ người dùng bình thường [02:51] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: sao lại không được [02:51] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: mình hỏi bạn thế này [02:51] <MrTuxHdb> tại sao người ta phải viết phần mềm ra phục vụ bạn [02:51] <vubuntor067> chứ nếu để cho cấp cao dùng ko vậy viết làm gì [02:51] <MrTuxHdb> trong khi bạn không trả một xu nào cho người viết [02:51] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: trả lời xem? [02:52] <MrTuxHdb> bạn nghĩ người viết phần mềm hít không khí mà sống [02:52] <vubuntor067> nếu bác nói vậy thì nó đâu còn là mã nguồn mở nữa [02:52] <MrTuxHdb> trả tiền sinh hoạt [02:52] <MrTuxHdb> tiền điện [02:52] <MrTuxHdb> tiền internet à? [02:52] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: phần mềm mã nguồn mở [02:52] <MrTuxHdb> đếu có nghĩ là người ta phải viết phần mềm không công cho bạn [02:52] <MrTuxHdb> rồi ngồi đó nghe bạn bảo là "viết làm gì" nhá [02:52] <vubuntor067> mã nguồn mở thì người ta ko đóng góp đc mã cũng có thể báo lỗi mà [02:52] <MrTuxHdb> không dùng được thì thôi [02:53] <MrTuxHdb> đếu dùng nữa là xong [02:53] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: ơ nhưng đấy đếu phải là lỗi của phần mềm [02:53] <MrTuxHdb> là lỗi của người sử dụng [02:53] <MrTuxHdb> ấy thế mà bạn tự cho mình cái quyền rằng "phần mềm bị lỗi" [02:53] <vubuntor067> em chỉ gõ giống như bình thường quaw [02:53] <MrTuxHdb> chứ không phải là "bạn đặt sai options" [02:53] <MrTuxHdb> hay "dùng chưa đúng cách" [02:53] <vubuntor067> mà gõ sai rồi lỗi là sao [02:54] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: ờ thế dốt [02:54] <MrTuxHdb> sao cứ thích tỏ ra nguy hiểm [02:54] <vubuntor067> nó mặc định đã vậy [02:54] <vubuntor067> em có chỉnh gì đâu [02:54] <MrTuxHdb> kể cả nó đếu gõ được [02:54] <vubuntor067> nãy bác nói em mới chỉnh lại chứ đâu phải em vọc bậy bạ đâu [02:55] <MrTuxHdb> thì bạn cũng chả có trình độ nói rằng phần mềm nó lởm [02:55] <n0bawk> >:3 [02:55] <vubuntor067> em có nói nó dởm đâu [02:55] <n0bawk> túm lại là dùng centos [02:55] <vubuntor067> em chỉ nói sao mà cấp này nó lại bị vậy [02:55] <n0bawk> và ko dùng phần mềm ngoài những gì nó cung cấp [02:55] <n0bawk> đảm bảo stable [02:55] <vubuntor067> trong khi mà hồi lần cái ibus-unikey [02:55] <vubuntor067> nó tốt lắm [02:56] <MrTuxHdb> đếu phải [02:56] <MrTuxHdb> mà là tội chúng tôi dốt [02:56] <MrTuxHdb> đến google dịch cũng đếu biết dùng [02:56] <vubuntor067> hazzz [02:56] <MrTuxHdb> nên core dump chúng tôi không biết là chương trình để kill cái bị đơ [02:56] <vubuntor067> bác lại nữa [02:56] <MrTuxHdb> và biết ibus-unikey không gõ được từ quả [02:56] <n0bawk> developer đang mải đi phượt [02:57] <n0bawk> nên bạn thông cảm :)) [02:57] <MrTuxHdb> n0bawk: engine nó vẫn vậy mà [02:57] <MrTuxHdb> tại ibus :3 [02:57] <vubuntor067> ko phải em chỉ báo lỗi thôi [02:57] <MrTuxHdb> nhưng đấy không phải lỗi [02:57] <vubuntor067> chứ ko có ý gì mà bác tux cứ làm ầm lên [02:57] <MrTuxHdb> lỗi = bug? [02:57] <n0bawk> MrTuxHdb: API nó thay đổi nhanh quá [02:57] <MrTuxHdb> xin thưa đấy đếu phải bug [02:57] <n0bawk> mà nhếu có developer :)) [02:57] <MrTuxHdb> n0bawk: :3 [02:58] * MrTuxHdb gõ m17n cho nó chắc [02:58] <MrTuxHdb> hồi sang MAC cũng toàn m17n [02:58] <n0bawk> à ko phải là ko có, mà là có mà developer giờ thích phượt hơn là viết phần mềm dạo :)) [02:58] <vubuntor067> cái man của người nước ngoài làm [02:58] <MrTuxHdb> man? [02:58] <n0bawk> MrTuxHdb: ờ, m17n hơi phải gò tay tí nhưng mà nhìn chung là vẫn consistent ;) [02:58] <vubuntor067> nó ko hiểu cách dùng của người việt [02:58] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: thôi xin [02:58] <MrTuxHdb> =)) [02:59] <MrTuxHdb> người Việt là cái đếu gì trong thế giới CNTT [02:59] <MrTuxHdb> hay thế giới thật [02:59] <n0bawk> (thấy người việt là hổ lốn nhất thé giới) [02:59] <MrTuxHdb> mà người ta phải phục vụ? [02:59] <n0bawk> cái gì cũng xài :)) [02:59] <vubuntor067> chính vì vậy người việt dùng hàng việt [02:59] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: thế hả [02:59] <n0bawk> vubuntor067: cách của người việt là phải đưa phong bì hả [02:59] <MrTuxHdb> thế tụt quần áo ra đi [02:59] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: vất xe máy Honda đi [02:59] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: mất ô tô đi [03:00] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: vất thêm tông lào China [03:00] <MrTuxHdb> nồi, bếp đũa [03:00] <MrTuxHdb> đến tăm xỉa răng [03:00] <MrTuxHdb> chắc quái gì đã ở VN [03:00] <vubuntor067> đấy [03:00] <vubuntor067> bác ấy lại vậy [03:00] <MrTuxHdb> TV, điện thoại [03:00] <MrTuxHdb> vất hết đi [03:00] <MrTuxHdb> đếu phải hàng VN đâu [03:00] <vubuntor067> tóm lại là cái ibus unikey [03:00] <MrTuxHdb> chịu khó ra mua con BPhone vỏ VN ruột tàu [03:01] <MrTuxHdb> về tdtt nhá [03:01] <vubuntor067> vẫn còn ngon hơn cái ibus m17n [03:01] * n0bawk gõ m17n hàng ngày [03:01] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: hỏi thật biết m17n là cái gì không? [03:01] <MrTuxHdb> :3 [03:01] <vubuntor067> còn cái phần mềm gì mới ra gần giống ibus unikey [03:01] <vubuntor067> nhưng mà dùng vẫn chán [03:02] <vubuntor067> bộ gõ có gồm cả gõ tiếng việt trong đó [03:02] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: thì nói chung là bạn cố gắng donate [03:02] <n0bawk> vubuntor067: bạn nên học để viết ra những phần mềm tốt hơn [03:02] <MrTuxHdb> vài chục triệu cho dev [03:02] <MrTuxHdb> trong vài tháng [03:02] <n0bawk> chúng tôi đã cố gắng hết sức :)) [03:02] <MrTuxHdb> thể nào cũng có bộ gõ [03:03] <MrTuxHdb> *xịn hơn một tí* [03:03] <n0bawk> giờ còn phải đi kiếm tiền mua sữa cho con :)) [03:03] <n0bawk> end of story [03:04] <MrTuxHdb> con còn đang đói sữa khóc dài thời gian đâu đi lo chuyện vubuntor067 gõ đến được *quả* hay *qủa" [03:04] <MrTuxHdb> mà thực ra nếu vubuntor067 đến donate gì cho dev [03:04] <MrTuxHdb> thì tiếng nói của vubuntor067 chó nó thèm quan tâm [03:04] <MrTuxHdb> :true story: [03:05] <vubuntor067> ok em chỉ báo vậy thôi , còn nếu đụng chạm bác thì cho em xin lỗi [03:05] <vubuntor067> còn bác chưởi thì em xin nghe [03:05] <MrTuxHdb> chưởi là cái lộn gì [03:05] <MrTuxHdb> :3 [03:06] <vubuntor067> :3 [03:06] <n0bawk> túm lại là dùng được thì cứ dùng đi [03:06] <n0bawk> như m17n vẫn gõ ngon lành tiếng việt [03:06] <n0bawk> chả có vấn đề gì [03:06] <n0bawk> thích sướng thì bỏ tiền ra học rồi viết cái làm cho cuộc đời sung sướng hơn [03:07] <n0bawk> còn chờ dev thì cứ chờ khi nào dev nuôi vợ con xong [03:07] <n0bawk> sẽ suy nghĩ xem có nên viết tiếp hay ko :D [03:07] <n0bawk> that's oss >:3 [03:07] <vubuntor067> m17 ko êm. còn nếu so sánh với unikey thì một trời 1 vực [03:08] <n0bawk> cần gì phải êm? [03:08] <MrTuxHdb> êm là cái lộn gì? [03:08] <n0bawk> MrTuxHdb: spotify có vẻ ngon :)) [03:08] <MrTuxHdb> n0bawk: em dùng đợt trước ngon [03:08] <MrTuxHdb> nhưng rồi nó cứ CPU leak [03:08] <MrTuxHdb> :)) [03:08] <MrTuxHdb> cú vãi nhái [03:08] <n0bawk> MrTuxHdb: hẻm thấy cpu tăng mấy :)) [03:09] <n0bawk> MrTuxHdb: có mỗi cái notify là bựa [03:09] <n0bawk> toàn đơ mấy 30s để load cái notify [03:09] <n0bawk> tắt cái notify đi phát ngon ngay [03:09] * MrTuxHdb để cài lại xem thế nào [03:10] <n0bawk> MrTuxHdb: à mà nó đơ là đơ hết cả UI [03:10] <n0bawk> bực vãi, tí nữa thì gỡ :)) [03:10] <vubuntor067> hiện giờ thì sửa lỗi trong unikey thì dùng macro gõ chữ quaw thì thay thế bằng quả [03:11] <n0bawk> ibus-unikey lâu nay chẳng có ai dev [03:11] <n0bawk> nên tốt hơn là chuyển về dùng scim-unikey hoặc là fcitx-unikey [03:11] <n0bawk> end of story [03:12] <vubuntor067> mà sao em thấy sao mấy cái bộ gõ đa số tác giả việt [03:12] <vubuntor067> mà ko gộp lại def chung [03:12] <vubuntor067> cứ lấy ra rồi sửa tên [03:13] <n0bawk> MrTuxHdb: musixmatch còn làm trò như karaoke được mới ghê >:3 [03:13] <n0bawk> đúng là bây giờ bọn nó làm quá tởm [03:13] <MrTuxHdb> ngon thế cơ á [03:14] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor067: dốt [03:14] <vubuntor067> mà cũng chưa chắc đã mạnh ngang ibus-unikey với scim-unikey [03:14] <MrTuxHdb> dốt [03:14] * MrTuxHdb gõ từ quả trong ibus-unikey bình thường [03:14] <MrTuxHdb> có cần macro chó gì đâu [03:14] <MrTuxHdb> có mà vubuntor067 setup sai options thì có [03:15] <MrTuxHdb> cứ thích đổ tội tại phần mềm [03:15] <vubuntor067> nó setup mặc định [03:15] <vubuntor067> bác nói em mới setup lại [03:17] <MrTuxHdb> thì nói rồi [03:17] <MrTuxHdb> thôi lỗi tại phần mềm [03:17] <MrTuxHdb> =)) [03:17] <MrTuxHdb> cho khỏi mất thời gian [03:17] <MrTuxHdb> ai đếu dùng được mặc bà nso [03:20] <vubuntor067> ha ha [03:21] <vubuntor067> em mò đc lỗi rồi [03:21] <vubuntor067> do thằng cinnamon

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.480020

2015-04-12-#juju-dev

[10:48] <jw4> is there a channel for conversations at nuremberg? [11:02] <davecheney> jw4: you're in it [11:02] * davecheney shit eating grin [11:09] <jw4> davecheney, i don't want to hear about that while eating lunch :) [11:13] <jw4> Anyone else want a 40 euro lunch buffet... Quite tasty... [11:14] <davecheney> hmm, (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ [11:14] <davecheney> jw4: you could have a 17 euro hamberger [11:15] <davecheney> % ls [11:15] <davecheney> "\" [11:15] <davecheney> fml [11:15] <davecheney> how am i going to delete that [11:17] <jw4> At least it wasn't your password [11:24] <davecheney> my password is tableflip [11:24] <jw4> Lol [11:25] <davecheney> it's hard to type on european keyboards [11:26] <jw4> Hehe. So do we have a conference room today or just camping in our hotel rooms? [11:28] <davecheney> jw4: screw conference rooms, they have a bar [11:29] <jw4> Lol.. Is that where you are? [19:40] <jw4> Workaround fix for bug 1438489 : http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1411/ [19:40] <mup> Bug #1438489: juju stop responding after juju-upgrade <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged by johnweldon4> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438489> [19:41] <natefinch> anyone else finding the canonical (and hotel) internet to be just horrible. It seemed fine for a bit, then it just crapped out [19:42] <natefinch> can't come close to doing a hangout [19:42] <jw4> natefinch, seems okay for me, but I'm just connecting to the room internet, not the 'Canonical' AP [19:43] <jw4> I was able to do skype earlier, although sending video was spotty. [19:46] <jw4> fwiw, it seems that the Canonical wifi signal is dramatically dropping in and out using my WiFi analyzer app on my phone...

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.490819

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-pk

[07:49] <ImadSawal> Anybody online ?

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2015-04-12-#edubuntu

[09:28] <am_> ppl [09:30] <am_> bye

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.494746

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-touch

[03:35] <Knuckl3head> Hello? [03:38] <lotuspsychje> Knuckl3head: yes? [03:38] <Knuckl3head> I am trying to find ways of extracting drivers from an android device, is there any information on how I should go about this? [03:39] <lotuspsychje> Knuckl3head: what are you trying to do exactly? [03:40] <lotuspsychje> Knuckl3head: porting ubuntu touch to a new device? [03:40] <Knuckl3head> Yeah, I'm just trying to get an initial image at the moment. [03:41] <lotuspsychje> Knuckl3head: what kind of device do you have? [03:41] <Knuckl3head> It's a Polaroid A8 Tablet. [03:41] <lotuspsychje> Knuckl3head: maybe the XDA forums have a porting to your device? [03:42] <Knuckl3head> The XDA forums? I haven't checked there yet, hold on. [03:43] <Knuckl3head> How would I find whether or not they have a port on there? [03:43] <lotuspsychje> Knuckl3head: search for you device name, and check if someone already busy on it [03:45] <Knuckl3head> Just rooting software. [03:46] <lotuspsychje> Knuckl3head: for now these are the supported devices: [03:46] <lotuspsychje> !devices | Knuckl3head [03:46] <Knuckl3head> So does this mean that there's no way to extract the drivers? [03:46] <lotuspsychje> Knuckl3head: but many handymen, are portin to cool devices, nexus5, one+one phones, tablet brands and such [03:48] <Knuckl3head> So I'll have to buy a 200$+ tablet to install Ubuntu Touch? [03:48] <lotuspsychje> Knuckl3head: if you wanna be safe, buy a second hand nexus7 [03:49] <lotuspsychje> i run touch on it and works like a charm [03:50] <Knuckl3head> I'll just email the devs or contact the mailing list to see if they can help me. [03:50] <lotuspsychje> sure, and also idle here when the devs are waking up [04:34] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu OS for phones | http://askubuntu.com/q/608262 [06:43] <brunch875> Good morning in the morning! [09:14] <dadexix86> hi all. how does the auto brightness work? Is it measured by the frontal camera? how much battery does this automated thing usually drain? [09:15] <nhaines> There's usually a dedicated photosensor for this next to the proximity sensor that the phone uses to turn off the screen when you put it to your face during a call. [09:19] <dadexix86> nhaines, thanks. on the bq device is this the first one from the left, then? [09:23] <nhaines> That I don't know. [09:25] <dadexix86> nhaines, ok thanks :) do you know something about the amount of battery (usually) used by that feature? [09:54] <nhaines> dadexix86: no, but it's probably only used when the screen is on and photosensors tend to be variable impedence resistors, so probably basically none. [09:58] <dadexix86> nhaines, thanks :) [10:01] <nhaines> dadexix86: you're welcome. :) [10:31] <Mad_Dud> guys, are there any connection problems reported in Germany for cellular networs in aquariz e4.5 ubuntu edition? [10:31] <Mad_Dud> i'm getting Sim 1 "unregistered" [10:34] <Mad_Dud> when i go to Rellular options, choose 'carrier' it says 'none' and when i click it (it's supposed to give a list of available networks?), there is only 'automatically' option available [11:02] <brunch875> ahooy! [11:30] <dadexix86> Mad_Dud, what is your carrier? [11:31] <Mad_Dud> dadexix86: vodafone [11:31] <Mad_Dud> vodafone DE, to be specific [11:32] <dadexix86> Then yes, there is a problem, see bug 1436545 :) I have O2 DE and it works fine :) [11:33] <Mad_Dud> dadexix86: damn it! [11:33] <Mad_Dud> ok. thanks [11:42] <ogra_> Mad_Dud, despite the bug (which actually claims vodafone works) ... you shoul din any case get a GSM connection, this seems like a new and unrelated bug [11:44] <ogra_> note that there is another bug where it takes 5min+ to register to GSM [11:45] <lotuspsychje> great work on the browser-app setting guys [13:13] <NIN101> how long will the aquariz e4.5 receive updates? does this depend on BQ? [16:05] <Nothing_Much> Does Ubuntu Touch support .debs normally? [16:12] <rbasak> Nothing_Much: only if you remount the root filesystem read/write. That breaks image-based updates though. [16:20] <Nothing_Much> rbasak: ohh.. [16:20] <Nothing_Much> will .debs be supported normally in the future? [16:24] <AskUbuntu> no notifications from calendar and reminders apps on Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Editon | http://askubuntu.com/q/608422 [16:33] <rbasak> Nothing_Much: no. Otherwise users would need dist-upgrade to work, and that's fraught with issues. [16:34] <Nothing_Much> ah, so Click is the way of the future? [16:34] <rbasak> Nothing_Much: yes, for stuff being added to the core system. [16:38] <rbasak> (as opposed to for the core system itself) [16:50] <AskUbuntu> Background image for the scopes | http://askubuntu.com/q/608427 [18:04] <Se7> hi guyssss [18:05] <Se7> i was thinking.... [18:05] <Se7> i m left hand it s possible to move the bar on the right and side ? [18:07] <Se7> sometime it s a bit weird to use it with the left thumb on the left and side of the phone [18:08] <Se7> it s would be great for the market as well i guess :) [18:19] <dadexix86> Se7, I was thinking about the same yesterday (although I am right handed). How do you feel with the desktop? Is it okay having it on the left or would it be better having everything inverted? [18:23] <Se7> on desktop it s different [18:24] <Se7> because you got the pointer [18:24] <Se7> not the finger :) [18:24] <cwayne_> popey, don't suppose you're around? [18:24] <Se7> and it s better on the desktop because you got everythink on left [18:24] <popey> cwayne_: for you, always [18:24] <Se7> lol [18:25] <Se7> this a quick answer [18:25] <cwayne_> popey, got an update to untappd if you don't mind :) fixes an account issue dobey_ was seein' [18:27] <popey> cwayne_: done [18:27] <cwayne_> popey, <3 [19:41] <Se7> dadexix86, you think its possible? [19:45] <dadexix86> Se7, in general? Maybe. Without rewriting a ton of code? Nope :( but probably the nice thing to do would to have a switch in the settings. Having the launcher on one side and not above/below it is actually important to have the possibly to move the launcher on the other side. [19:46] <dadexix86> Se7 I strongly suggest that you fill a bug and wait for the developers to give an answer. [19:47] <Se7> ok tnx for the answer [19:48] <Se7> have a switch would be very great [19:48] <Se7> but yu think it s a bug? [20:09] <dadexix86> Se7, well, yes. it is a usability bug for me :) [20:10] <Se7> ok just posted the question :) [20:14] <dadexix86> can you link it please? :) [20:15] <Se7> i posted in ask ubuntu not in a bug [20:15] <Se7> http://askubuntu.com/questions/608483/launcher-ubuntu-touch [20:16] <AskUbuntu> Launcher ubuntu touch | http://askubuntu.com/q/608483 [20:18] <dadexix86> thanks! [20:18] <Se7> no probs :) [20:18] <Se7> it s ok there ir i have to report a new bug in launchpad? [20:22] <popey> i think you may be missing that the right edge is used for switching applications [20:22] <popey> which is generally something you do more often than launching applications [20:22] <popey> if you move launcher to the right, then switching will obviously move to the left [20:22] <popey> if you do that then you have to stretch every time you switch apps [20:26] <Se7> popey, i dont agree [20:27] <popey> you don't agree with what? [20:27] <Se7> i don t understand very well what you mean for stretch [20:28] <Se7> but i dont agree with that [20:28] <Se7> popey> which is generally something you do more often than launching applications [20:28] <popey> People generally switch applications (like ALT+TAB) _way_ more than they launch apps [20:28] <Se7> when i m at work wich it s a very boring job [20:29] <Se7> i launch application every second...close and open fb [20:29] <Se7> ebay [20:29] <Se7> telegramm as well [20:29] <popey> You open an app, and then _close_ it? [20:30] <popey> So you have no apps running? [20:30] <Se7> no [20:30] <Se7> if i watch on fb after i close it [20:31] <Se7> i don t leave apps running in background [20:31] <Se7> save battery :) [20:31] <popey> That's not common behaviour. [20:32] <popey> Apps on Ubuntu don't run in the background. [20:32] <popey> So it saves battery without you having to do that. [20:33] <Se7> ok ok this is another think i guess [20:35] <Se7> i was talking about the comfort for me that i m left hand [20:36] <popey> ah I see. [20:36] <popey> I misunderstood that bit, sorry. [20:37] <Se7> no probs popey [21:52] <SturmFlut> D****d I crashed my E4.5 again [21:54] <popey> D****d? [21:54] <SturmFlut> popey: It starts with "D" and ends with "amned" [21:55] <SturmFlut> Every time it happens I can't subsequently get an ABD shell, so no possibility to debug it [21:56] <SturmFlut> Ooooh! It came back to life! [21:56] <SturmFlut> This is new [22:02] <SturmFlut> I'll file a bug tomorrow, but if anybody wants to look at the logs at this exact moment: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10811672/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/10811675/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/10811679/ [23:57] <Thandlovsky> If anyone is interested, I have f2fs working on the ubuntu touch image and it works great I think you guys should check it out

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2015-04-12-#ubuntu-ko

[02:47] <cartes9> 안녕하세요 [07:02] <razgon_MBP> 섬에 다녀왔습니다. [07:07] <razgon_MBP> php를 보려하니 제가 볼때는 html을 먼저 해야 될거 같아서, 그냥 html5로 시작하려합니다. [07:37] <HolyKnight> 화이팅 [07:49] <razgon_> 화이팅! [07:49] <razgon_> razGon_MBP [13:09] <cartes9_> bind9, DNS서버 자체 구축하는것좀 도와주세요 ㅠㅠ [13:13] <ipeter> 오랫만에 뵙네요. [13:13] <cartes9_> 안녕하세요 [16:29] <DarkCircle> bluedusk, 야근이시냐는. [16:30] <DarkCircle> (타겟이 좀 이상하긴 하지만 -ㅅ-a) [23:36] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~ [23:43] <HolyKnight> ㅎㅇㅇ

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2015-04-12-#ubuntu-motu

[03:52] <Unit193> micahg: Howdy. Sorry to poke again, but I got poked by xiphos upstream again. Everything still looking good? Going to hit soon? [03:53] <micahg> Unit193: yeah, should be done by end of weekend [03:53] <Unit193> Great, thanks! [03:53] <micahg> thanks for the reminder [03:54] <Unit193> Of course, thanks for checking into it. Should I set it to some other status, the merge proposal? [03:58] <micahg> no, I think it's ok [07:39] <Rhonda> What's the version schema for a SRU? [07:59] <Rhonda> Hmm, reading the SRU wiki page is the test case really required? The upstream wesnoth bugreport is still set to private and I'm not sure if I feel comfortable to copy the data from there …

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2015-04-12-#lubuntu

[00:09] <ianorlin> yes rexus [00:26] <rexus> thanks ianorlin. Actually I have both lubuntu 14.04 and 14.10 running on VM right now [00:26] <rexus> My intention is basically to get rid of NetworkManager and configure the network manually as I have always done in RHEL [00:27] <rexus> but the result for "service --status-all" command is totally different than in RHEL [00:28] <rexus> and strangely, in 14.04, when I run "service --status-all" I did not see NetworkManager service running [00:29] <rexus> however, "service network-manager status" show that it is running. [00:41] <rexus> nevermind, I think the best way is to use the "initctl list" command [02:20] <holstein> rexus: why not just run RHEL? [02:48] <rexus> holstein, because I want to learn Ubuntu as well [02:48] <rexus> don't want to limit myself to just single distro [02:49] <holstein> why not just use the included ubuntu tools,then? [02:49] <rexus> and lubuntu seems to be a good option so far because of its lightweight nature. [02:49] <holstein> whats the goal? maybe there is a simpler way to get where you are going... [02:50] <rexus> the goal is basically just understanding how it works without the network manager [02:50] <rexus> but I just found out that there's this nmclient, I probably need to look at that one as well [02:51] <holstein> typically, it doenst [02:51] <holstein> the desktop workflow of lubuntu, and most ubuntu's use the network manager by default [02:52] <holstein> there are many other ways to do it, and quite a few other tools, but, i dont understand the goal of why you are wanting to use another tool. .what are you trying to implement that you cant with the network manager? [02:53] <rexus> well, this is basically based on the experience I had from the RHEL side. My Sysadmin in the company never configure NetworkManager. So, I figured that the same thing would apply as well in lubuntu [02:53] <holstein> sure, but, you are wanting to learn ubuntu/lubuntu, right? if thats the only goal, then use the include tool [02:54] <holstein> included* [02:54] <holstein> if you have something you are trying to do that you cant do in the network manager, then, we can likely find a nice way to address whatever that is.. [02:54] <rexus> alright.. [02:55] <rexus> that make sense.. [06:23] <rexuss> Hi, if I just made a change on the network configuration, how do I restart the network using initctl command? [06:26] <genii> Use instead sudo service networking restart [09:15] <mouseover> Googling suggest that getting wireless to work on Broadcom cards requires another package ( bcmwl-kernel-source ). But the page here seems dead? http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/bcmwl-kernel-source [09:20] <Unit193> !b43 [09:20] <Unit193> Depends on the card. [09:31] <mouseover> How do I know which packages are found on the Lubuntu install CD? [11:20] <rexuss> hi all, I was reading this documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers . it was saying that Systemd runs with PID 1 as /sbin/init and Upstart runs with PID 1 as /sbin/upstart. [11:21] <rexuss> I did "ps -f -p 1" and I'm getting /sbin/init so it means, my system which is lubuntu 14.10 is already using Systemd? [11:22] <Unit193> If you read the rest, it says if you have systemd-sysv installed... [11:22] <Unit193> ls -lh /sbin/init or dpkg -S /sbin/init [11:23] <rexuss> gosh, I forgot to read that Vivid Vervet part.. [11:24] <Unit193> :D [11:24] <rexuss> and yeah, /sbin/init in my system is a symlink to upstart [11:24] <Unit193> Mhmm, don't think you can even install systemd-sysv. [11:25] <rexuss> will lubuntu come out with the 15.04? [11:25] <Unit193> Yep, already defaults to systemd too. [11:26] <rexuss> Do you think there's still a point in learning upstart then? [11:26] <rexuss> I mean, I have zero knowledge of upstart [11:26] <rexuss> I just knew that ubuntu is using upstart earlier and the rest of the other distro are using Systemd [11:27] <Unit193> Depends on if you have any 14.04 servers, but otherwise likely not. It is nice though. [11:27] <Unit193> systemd is what Ubuntu uses in 15.04 and up. [11:27] <rexuss> well, I'm using lubuntu for my VM [11:28] <rexuss> the playground type of VM which will be reinstalled with a new one every time there's a new release [11:28] <rexuss> then I guess I'll start with Systemd then.. [11:46] <rexuss> Is it possible to rename a volume group and logical volume if it is used by the root partition? [11:51] <rexuss> nevermind, just tried it and it worked on the fly :) [11:52] <rexuss> but, I just think of it again, I guess I need to change it in the fstab as well right? [11:53] <Unit193> Check crypttab too. [11:54] <rexuss> I don't have /etc/crypttab [11:55] <rexuss> Unit193, it means I need to change my fstab manually right? [11:57] <rexuss> it seems to me that it is better if the fstab is using the UUID, so if I change it to something else, at least the UUID would still be the same. Is this correct? [11:58] <Unit193> UUID would remain. [14:47] <lastopier> hi, is it possible to get a fancy coloured terminal like in ubunut? I mostly mean having links etc highlighted in different colour; thanks [16:20] <choki> damn, he left [17:20] <aladiah> what it is it the normal path after Libre Office install to reach Desktop-Integration sub folder directory ?= [17:21] <choki> aladiah: idk what u mean :D [17:22] <aladiah> cd Desktop-integration ?choki [17:22] <aladiah> choki : CD desktop-integration ? [17:22] <aladiah> humm this dont work [17:23] <aladiah> where is the Libre-office directory ? [17:23] <aladiah> inside which folder ? [17:26] <choki> aladiah: i would guess somewhere in /usr/share [17:26] <aladiah> ok lets rty [17:27] <choki> aladiah: or just use the command "locate libre" [17:27] <choki> and u get any folder with libre in :D [17:28] <aladiah> choki : you are right . ite there , thanks [17:31] <choki> aladiah: what do u want to do? [17:34] <aladiah> choki : i want a go inside Desktop-integration sub folder that usually is inside DEB to execute this command sudo dpkg -i *.deb because the program shortcuts still don't appear in the menu [17:36] <aladiah> choki : inside i cant find desktop-integration folder http://paste.ubuntu.com/10809883/ do you know a way find directorys in Lubuntu ? [17:37] <aladiah> choki : something like locate desktop-integration will work ? [17:37] <choki> i still dont know what desktop-integration u mean with :D [17:37] <choki> are u looking for the shortcuts to open libre office? [17:38] <aladiah> i want a go inside Desktop-integration sub folder that usually is inside DEB to execute this command sudo dpkg -i *.deb because the program shortcuts still don't appear in the menu [17:38] <aladiah> i want to make shortcuts in menu [17:40] <choki> you mean the "start" menu? why dont they appear in there? [17:40] <choki> if u install libre office, they are in there by default [17:41] <choki> if not u may re-install libreoffice then or you may take a look into /usr/share/applications/ [17:42] <aladiah> YES [17:43] <aladiah> choki iam following this guide : http://www.libre-software.net/how-to-install-libreoffice-on-ubuntu-linux-mint [17:44] <aladiah> choki : i reach to this manual part Move to the “desktop-integration” subdirectory and install the desktop-integration package: cd desktop-integration [17:44] <aladiah> is the end final part [17:45] <choki> aladiah: ugh, why dont you use a ppa? it is much easier. like http://askubuntu.com/questions/564610/how-to-install-libreoffice-4-4-0-in-ubuntu/579643#579643 [17:45] <aladiah> The stupid who writes that sheet forgot to specify the complete path [17:45] <aladiah> because ial almost done [17:45] <aladiah> chocki iam almost done, the only thing is this . [17:45] <choki> lol, i would not hassle with them. just go with ppa and also dont forget to install libreoffice-gtk [17:46] <aladiah> Choki: you or someone know how to search this folder ? [17:46] <aladiah> command line . . explorator . . something , iam newby [17:47] <choki> aladiah: on which step u are now? [17:47] <aladiah> Desktop-integration [17:47] <aladiah> i need to go to desktop-integration folder [17:47] <aladiah> look simple doesnit ? [17:47] <aladiah> lolol [17:47] <aladiah> where is it ? [17:47] <choki> aladiah: and where is your libre office folder in dowloads? [17:48] <choki> if he means subfolder i guess it is in the downloads folder of libreoffice [17:48] <choki> there has to be a desktop integration folder then [17:48] <aladiah> no the folder is full of debs files [17:48] <aladiah> i already decompressed it [17:48] <aladiah> but i dont know to where [17:48] <choki> aladiah: you may then look for the folder with "locate desktop-integration" [17:48] <aladiah> sudo [17:49] <aladiah> sudo locate ..? [17:49] <choki> no [17:49] <aladiah> in console ? [17:49] <choki> yeah [17:49] <aladiah> ĺets try [17:49] <choki> w [17:50] <aladiah> choki : results for locate desktop.integration http://paste.ubuntu.com/10809990/ [17:51] <choki> aladiah: then you dont have such folder [17:51] <aladiah> could be in portuguese ? [17:52] <choki> i dont think so xD [17:53] <aladiah> choki how to remove all this instalation and start brand new ? [17:53] <aladiah> i want portuguese version [17:54] <aladiah> with ortography correcto all in portuguse . . [17:54] <choki> aladiah: just remove the files u downloaded and go with the link i posted [17:54] <choki> and install language files later if u need [17:55] <aladiah> ok lets try [17:56] <choki> after u installed also install this: libreoffice-l10n-pt libreoffice-gtk [17:56] <aladiah> Choky you sure you dont know how to create menu sort cut ? [17:56] <aladiah> Choky you sure you dont know how to create menu short cut ? [17:56] <choki> aladiah: i do but i always prefer ppa before i do all that hassle myself :D [17:57] <aladiah> because i already have all installed [17:57] <aladiah> i just need the shrot cut [17:58] <choki> i would have to take a look into the installed folder to know how to create the shortcut [18:03] <aladiah> choki i did sudo apt-get remove libreoffice4.4* [18:03] <aladiah> now i will install brand new [18:03] <choki> coool :D [18:03] <choki> libreoffice 4.4 looks nice with new icons and design! [18:04] <choki> still no ribbon but okey :D [18:04] <aladiah> ribbon ? what is this ? [18:06] <choki> word [18:06] <choki> ui [18:13] <aladiah> Chuki it dont works for me i did sudo apt-add-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-4 http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810139/ [18:13] <choki> aladiah: u wrote upgrade instead of update [18:13] <choki> it is not sudo apt-get upgrade [18:13] <choki> it is sudo apt-get update [18:14] <aladiah> i did that [18:14] <choki> no, the 2nd command is wrong [18:14] <aladiah> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810139/ [18:14] <choki> oh [18:14] <choki> aladiah: but not dist-upgrade [18:15] <aladiah> first of all i should do sudo apt-get install libreoffice doesnit ? [18:15] <aladiah> because i have no version at this time [18:15] <aladiah> right ? [18:16] <choki> no [18:16] <aladiah> lets start ffrom begining [18:16] <choki> u have to add the ppa first what u did, then sudo apt-get update and then dist upgrade [18:16] <choki> xD [18:16] <choki> just do now: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [18:17] <choki> idk xD [18:17] <choki> good luck :D [18:18] <aladiah> choki : step by step i did sudo apt-add-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-4 this is normal http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810203/ [18:19] <aladiah> it tells it will release 200 mb byt i think it dont [18:20] <aladiah> choki : i could go one .. ? [18:20] <choki> idk [18:20] <choki> sorry :D [18:21] <aladiah> i did it i think i dont have libre oofice yet . what up » [18:22] <aladiah> i should reboot to see it ? [18:24] <aladiah> idk ? choki ?» [18:27] <choki> lol [18:28] <aladiah> choki it dont work for me [18:28] <choki> aladiah: i dont know waht u did, it could be so easy :D [18:28] <aladiah> choki iam 64 bit version, is because that ? [18:28] <choki> no [18:28] <aladiah> i did exactly whats there [18:28] <aladiah> copy past [18:28] <aladiah> with out error possibiility [18:30] <choki> idk then :D [18:32] <aladiah> choki : i will try this one here http://www.edivaldobrito.com.br/libreoffice-4-4-1-no-linux/ [19:37] <position> which version of lubuntu is lts? [19:38] <position> lubuntu 15.04 will be the new lts? [19:38] <krytarik> position: Nope - current is 14.04, next will be 16.04. [19:39] <position> ok thanks

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.525891

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-pl

[07:31] <haruto_> Cześć, więc tak dając to w konsoli, i dając ścieżki do plików ffmpeg -i "${i}" -sn -c:v libx264 -x264opts crf=20 -filter ass="${i}".ass -c:a aac -strict experimental "${i}".mp4 mam taki komunikat w konsoli [Parsed_ass_0 @ 0x1cd0ce0] Could not create a libass track when reading file '/home/shu/Dokumenty/' [07:31] <haruto_> [AVFilterGraph @ 0x1c161c0] Error initializing filter 'ass' with args '/home/shu/Dokumenty/' [07:32] <haruto_> Jak dobrze rozumiem brakuje czegoś do odczytania pliku ass [07:33] <Ashiren> co by podalo echo "${i}" przed ta komenda [07:33] <haruto_> tutaj dałem lokalizację plików [07:33] <Ashiren> na pewno? [07:34] <haruto_> na pewno [07:35] <haruto_> Daję dokładnie ten oto kod ffmpeg -i "/home/shu/Wideo/test.mkv" -sn -c:v libx264 -x264opts crf=20 -filter ass="/home/shu/Dokumenty/test2.ass".ass -c:a aac -strict experimental "/home/shu/Dokumenty/testowe.mp4".mp4 [07:35] <Ashiren> "/home/shu/Dokumenty/test2.ass".ass koncowka .ass.ass [07:35] <Ashiren> tak samo na koncu jest .mp4.mp4 [07:36] <haruto_> czyli nazwa pliku wystarczy [07:36] <Ashiren> tak [07:37] <haruto_> Teraz mam to [Parsed_ass_0 @ 0x209ace0] Read failed, 21: Is a directory [07:37] <haruto_> [Parsed_ass_0 @ 0x209ace0] Could not create a libass track when reading file '/home/shu/Dokumenty/' [07:37] <haruto_> [AVFilterGraph @ 0x207b200] Error initializing filter 'ass' with args '/home/shu/Dokumenty/' [07:38] <Ashiren> teraz to pewnie usunales nazwe pliku i tylko katalog zostal [07:39] <haruto_> Dałem to ffmpeg -i "/home/shu/Wideo/test.mkv" -sn -c:v libx264 -x264opts crf=20 -filter ass="/home/shu/Dokumenty/test2".ass -c:a aac -strict experimental "/home/shu/Dokumenty/testowe".mp4 [07:40] <Ashiren> i to samo? [07:42] <haruto_> tak [07:42] <Ashiren> a sprobuj -vf "ass=subtitle.ass" zamiast -filter [07:49] <haruto> ok [07:50] <haruto> Jest zmiana ale dalej daje ten monit File '/home/shu/Dokumenty/testowe.mp4' already exists. Overwrite ? [y/N] y [07:50] <haruto> [Parsed_ass_0 @ 0x1032ce0] Read failed, 21: Is a directory [07:50] <haruto> [Parsed_ass_0 @ 0x1032ce0] Could not create a libass track when reading file '/home/shu/Dokumenty/' [07:50] <haruto> [AVFilterGraph @ 0x1013200] Error initializing filter 'ass' with args '/home/shu/Dokumenty/' [07:50] <haruto> Error opening filters! [07:50] <haruto> Myślę że to coś z ass [07:59] <haruto> działa dzięki [07:59] <haruto> bug był w literówce w napisach [08:02] <haruto> Nara [08:05] <gjm> NARA [10:18] <haruto> Hi jak włączyć w kodowaniu x265 zamiast x264 jako moduł x265opts [14:29] <me_> joł [14:31] <me_> wie ktos jak korzystac z deja-dup, tzn. jak przywrócić system na podstawie tych plikow .gpg ? [17:23] <scet> Ponowie mam problem z ustawieniem hasła dla munin na serwerze. [17:23] <scet> Dodałem taki wpis w konfiguracji nginx: [17:23] <scet> auth_basic "Private access"; [17:23] <scet> auth_basic_user_file /etc/munin/haslo/munin_htpasswd; [17:23] <scet> nastepnie w folderze /etc/munin/haslo/ wykonuje: [17:23] <scet> htpasswd -c munin_htpasswd scet [17:23] <scet> i wpisuje 2x hasło. [17:23] <scet> Podczas próby uruchomianie strony pojawiają sie pola do wpisania ale mimo iż podaje dobre dane to za każdym razem dostaje: 500 Internal Server Error [17:23] <scet> Podpowie ktoś co robie nie tak? [17:23] <ftpd> jak 500, to lepiej w logi popatrz. [17:37] <scet> problem był z uprawnieniami do pliku [17:37] <scet> zmieniłem je [17:38] <scet> ale pojawił się kolejny problem [17:39] <scet> zmienia mi link do strony i zamiast xxx.pl/munin zmienia mi na xxx.pl/munin/damian/ i wywala 404 Not Found [17:39] <scet> więc teraz pewnie w konfiguracji nginx coś nie tak? :/ [17:44] <ftpd> A skąd mamy wiedzieć? Skoro dajesz tak szczątkowe informacje, idź do wróżki, a nie na irca. [17:54] <TheNumb> Dread: dobra domena. [17:54] <TheNumb> Polecam tego allegrowicza. [17:54] <Dread> na pircu jeszcze lepsza. [17:55] <TheNumb> Dread: dej :< [17:55] <Dread> co chcesz :< [17:55] <TheNumb> dobretrojany.pl :D [17:55] <Dread> nie dem [17:56] <TheNumb> dem [17:56] <Dread> nie dem [17:56] <TheNumb> demj [17:56] <TheNumb> :< [17:56] <Dread> jak mi przypomnisz co miałem na 15 buforze w weechacie to ci dem [17:56] <TheNumb> #rubyonrails [17:56] <Dread> nie [17:56] <Dread> 5,40 za straty moralne sie należą [17:56] <Dread> podać numer konta? [17:56] <TheNumb> nie [17:56] <TheNumb> ;x [17:57] <Dread> :D [18:09] <TheNumb> Dread: jeszcze mi wisisz kucowe [18:09] <TheNumb> ;] [18:09] <Dread> tak, i typową słowiańską zapłatę. [18:09] <gjm> to kucaj [18:10] <Dread> to numbuś raczej powinien. [18:10] <gjm> no to do niego było [18:11] <TheNumb> pedaly [18:12] <Dread> nie małpuj najwyższego [18:13] <gjm> :v [18:13] <Dread> :D [18:13] <Dread> nie schylił sie to wyleciał :V [18:19] <gjm> ciekawe, kiedy się skapnie [18:23] <TheNumb> nie [18:23] <gjm> o, cześć, TheNumb [18:24] <TheNumb> O, cześć gjm

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.541011

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-tr

[05:58] <fnoyanisi> selam [05:59] <fnoyanisi> kde plasma5 kullanan var mı

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.543662

2015-04-12-#ubuntu+1

[01:36] <jaysonl> Hi all. Wondering what else I have to do besides removing the usual "-nolisten TCP" bit I need to do in order to get X to listen on port 6000... [01:40] <jaysonl> I'd fall back to Ubuntu 14.10, but there are some strange graphical glitches on my machine (Intel NUC5i5RYH) that make the graphical installer impossible to use... and I *really* don't want to use Fedora... [01:42] <jaysonl> I play around with some embedded Linux systems that take a high toll from the overhead of forwarding X11 over SSH, so I was really hoping someone would be able to point me in the right direction in order to get the X server to behave like... an X server [01:44] <jaysonl> I'll be 'idling' here until the next time I reboot said machine, so if anyone sees this and offers some insight, I'd be ever so thankful. :) [01:47] <jaysonl> Additional information: Yes, I've disabled -nolisten TCP (X command line reads: /usr/bin/X :0 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 vt7 -novtswitch) and disabled apparmor... X is literally not even listening on port 6000 (nor is anything else). [01:49] <penguin42> jaysonl: You checked that on ss/netstat ? [01:49] <jaysonl> penguin42: I've checked that with netstat -l as well as lsof -i [01:50] <jaysonl> as well as plain 'ol "telnet localhost 6000" [01:50] <jaysonl> also, "iptables -v -L" shows no rules, policy ACCEPT [01:51] <penguin42> fun [04:37] * jaysonl returns from dinner [04:38] <jaysonl> Hi all. Wondering what else I have to do besides removing the usual "-nolisten TCP" bit I need to do in order to get X to listen on port 6000... [08:57] <lordievader> Good morning. [10:15] <igalic> linux: https://gist.github.com/igalic/20a76de06b13550ea13a :( [13:58] <BluesKaj> Hey folks [13:59] <penguin42> Hey BK [13:59] <BluesKaj> hi penguin42 [15:12] <a1fa> damn.. the latest update broke something with sound [15:13] <a1fa> the audio source auto select no longer works. i have no inputs connected [15:13] <a1fa> and when i connect my usb headphones, the sound does not get switched over to them [15:13] <a1fa> you have to manually switch the sound over [15:18] <a1fa> brb [15:21] <a1fa> ok, the sound works fine in unity, but not in latest xfce [15:25] <a1fa> xfce4-session_4.12.1-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb [15:25] <a1fa> i think this is what broke i [15:27] <lisak> hey, I heard that Chef was to be part of ubuntu 15.04, is it already? I mean if I install the current pre-release version, will Chef be available there ? [15:29] <lisak> I can't really find any sign of Chef supporting 15.04 already apart from this information [15:38] <maxb> Well [15:39] <maxb> !info chef vivid [15:39] <maxb> but on the other hand [15:39] <maxb> !info chef lucid [15:40] <maxb> So there's been _a_ version of Chef in Ubuntu for years. [16:02] <psusi> anyone know why the daily iso hasn't been updated since march 26th? [16:04] <penguin42> is it because it hit alpha/beta etc? [16:05] <penguin42> ah, march 26 is final beta [16:06] <k1l> i am not sure if there are dailies after last beta [16:08] <psusi> of course there are... they just seem to not be getting promoted from testing to current [19:08] <KDDA> anyone know why systemd is extending the boot time and if its possible to speed things up? [19:09] <penguin42> KDDA: You can use systemd-analyse to figure out what's taking the time [19:09] <penguin42> oops, analyze [19:11] <MoonUnit`> i disabled NetworkManager-wait-online.service always took 8 seconds on my desktop. [19:11] <penguin42> yeh I've heard a few people complain about that one [19:12] <KDDA> exim4.service took 30 seconds [19:13] <KDDA> network manager took 10 [19:14] <penguin42> KDDA: That sounds like the exim timed out waiting for something [19:14] <penguin42> KDDA: I wonder if you're missing a dependency there so that the network or dns or something is up before exim [19:14] <KDDA> its a desktop, why would I need MTA? [19:15] <penguin42> oh, I'd assumed you'd installed that on purpose [19:15] <KDDA> nope! [19:15] <penguin42> nuke it then [19:15] <KDDA> unless its part of Kontact? [19:17] <MoonUnit`> i don't have it installed so can't be a dependacy [19:17] <KDDA> removing now [19:17] <KDDA> will try a reboot [19:20] <KDDA> knocked a few seconds off [19:21] <KDDA> now network manager is taking 20seconds! [19:21] <KDDA> MoonUnit`: how do you disable network manager? [19:22] <MoonUnit`> sudo systemctl disable NetworkManager-wait-online.service [19:24] <KDDA> ok, will try another reboot [19:26] <KDDA> much better! [19:27] <KDDA> Startup finished in 3.192s (kernel) + 7.053s (userspace) = 10.246s [19:28] <MoonUnit`> that's better than mine. [19:28] <MoonUnit`> Startup finished in 8.004s (kernel) + 4.560s (userspace) = 12.565s [19:30] <MoonUnit`> probably a few services i could disable, ModemManager perhaps. [19:30] <MoonUnit`> lirc.service also, only installed it for irexec [19:34] <KDDA> thanks for the help penguin42 and MoonUnit` [19:34] <MoonUnit`> np [19:34] <KDDA> modem manager is complaining on my machine [19:35] <KDDA> I dont use a modem, so that could be disabled [20:00] <Anonymauz> Hello! I am using kubuntu 15.04, i have en and ru keyboard layouts. When i switch to another window or press Enter in browser text edit field - my layout switches to default(en_US). I have "Global switching policy" in keyboard settings. What's wrong with it? [20:08] <MoonUnit`> disabled the modemmanager, didn't cause any problems [20:09] <MoonUnit`> only knocked off 0.200s though hehe [20:09] <KDDA> might also make your system log bit smaller! [20:10] <lordievader> :P [20:10] <KDDA> MoonUnit`: what kernel you using? [20:10] <MoonUnit`> 4.0-rc7 [20:11] <Anonymauz> Hello! I am using kubuntu 15.04, i have en and ru keyboard layouts. When i switch to another window or press Enter in browser text edit field - my layout switches to default(en_US). I have "Global switching policy" in keyboard settings. What's wrong with it? [20:11] <Anonymauz> btw, when i double-click window, layout changes to default(en_US) too [20:11] <Anonymauz> any ideas? [20:11] <KDDA> Anonymauz: try #kubuntu-dev [20:11] <Anonymauz> wtf.. [20:12] <KDDA> sorry #kubuntu-devel [20:17] <MoonUnit`> closest bug similar i could find is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1440431

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.549607

2015-04-12-#ubuntukylin-devel

[14:29] <freeflying> happyaron, http://paste.ubuntu.com.cn/2554310 [14:29] <freeflying> happyaron, 1920x1080分辨率下的chrome变这操行了

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.552772

2015-04-12-#maas

[02:44] <AskUbuntu> Juju - Wordpress hook failed : install | http://askubuntu.com/q/608238 [19:22] <timbo_> hello my friends... anybody listening here...? [19:23] <timbo_> I am enthralled with MAAS and got a question or two with regards to Dell computers and Boot from Lan [19:25] <timbo_> I have my controller up and running and all it good.. I am having a tough time getting my nodes to commission.. [19:44] <timbo_> I have a handful of optiplex 750's and it took a little work, but I got my first node to boot from lan successfully. [19:48] <timbo_> I delete the node from and allow it to be discovered. When it is ready, I click commission and the node starts up. [19:50] <timbo_> I am watching the console on the node and it all looks good... SUCCESS then a login prompt. [19:51] <timbo_> I try a root login (right or wrong?) and then it gives me some more output and shuts down the node. [19:52] <timbo_> and the node is back at READY... Like nothing happened. [20:06] <timbo_> trying again.. shows up as declared but unknown power type. I edit the WOL setting and add the MAC. click commission and the node starts! [20:11] <timbo_> I am looking through the logs and config files on the controller... Not finding anything interesting... [20:13] <timbo_> Anybody been here before and know where to investigate.... I don't need hand holding.. Just a pointer will do. [20:15] <timbo_> the node shuts down after a while and shows up as READY again... [22:06] <timbo_> bump [22:44] <Crossfire0mega> Hi all [22:45] <Crossfire0mega> So I just setup my first MAAS server and I am having some issues with getting my nodes up and running. [22:47] <Crossfire0mega> I have two nodes setup and conneced to the network and PXE boot working, they contact the MAAS server and pull the files correctly and go from commission state to ready state but when I select start nodes I get a mesage saying that their state doesnt allow that action. [22:48] <Crossfire0mega> I have edited both nodes power types and set them to WOL with their mac addresses but still to no avail. [23:42] <AskUbuntu> Juju - agent-state stuck on allocating | http://askubuntu.com/q/608544

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.557649

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-fi

[13:06] <thonza> moi. torcs ei pysty avaamaan ruutua. [13:10] <elias_a> Jos koneenne tuntuu äkkiä tahmaiselta uusilla Ubuntuilla, testatkaapa onko kyse tästä bugista: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1389077 [13:10] <lubotu3`> Ubuntu bug 1389077 in linux (Ubuntu) "[HP ProBook 4530s] Intel Powerclamp is Slowing CPU" [Medium,Confirmed] [14:10] <elias_a> Vai että rootin oikeuksilla irkataan... eipä paljoa päätä pakota. :( [16:42] <Tekno_> ei se oo oikeesti root ku sil on ~ [16:44] <ninnnu> Tekno_: tai sitten sillä ei ole identd:tä, mikä on melko normaalia kotikoneissa [16:45] <Tekno_> nii, ite kirjottanu rootin tuoho [16:45] <Tekno_> joten ~ [16:59] <Mikaela> tai sitten identd on natin takana [17:03] <ninnnu> Mun Ubuntussa ei kyl oo identd ajossa tai kuuntelussa [17:04] <ninnnu> Eikä Debianissa [17:04] <ninnnu> ei oo mun mielestä kuulunu vakiokalusteen vähään aikaan jos ~ikinä [18:13] <Mikaela> se on kuuntelussa jos sen asentaa [18:14] <ninnnu> mutta se ei ole normiasennuksessa [18:14] <Mikaela> siinä se ei varmaan olisi kovin tarpeellinenkaan [19:30] <StockAntenna> irssiminen ei kuulu nykyihmisen touhuihin, joten identd:n ajo on perus-fb-väellä aika turhaa [19:32] <Echramath> Juu ja lisäksi siinä ei ole mitään järkeä että työasema kertoo kuka sieltä on tulossa [19:46] <kirvesAxe> kuka nyt irssiä lokaalisti... [20:36] <pesasa> http://viikonvalo.fi/Ditaa

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.562751

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-co-meeting

[23:19] <Fori> ola [23:22] <SaMe> entonces Fori como vamos? [23:25] <Fori> SaMe: ahi le dije al brayan [23:25] <Fori> peor jum [23:33] <Fori> Y linaporras me bloqueo en telegram que mala amiga [23:33] <Fori> jajajajajajajaja

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.563587

2015-04-12-#ubuntustudio

[10:25] <RedZTag> My microphone records what I'm listening to http://vocaroo.com/i/s16Z5DRYCmwW I whistled twice there. How do I toggle this 'feature' on/off as it doesn't happen in windows at all. [10:26] <RedZTag> I'm using a freshish install which I downloaded the image from a week or two ago. [10:37] <RedZTag> Turning the microphone down to 42% (-22.70DB) seems to allow my voice to come through clearly with the music barely audible [18:53] <Morgiver> Bonsoir :)

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.566348

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-news

[03:34] <pleia2> ahoneybun: care to write some summaries this weekend? :) [17:25] <pleia2> MooDoo: think you could write a few summaries for me? :) [17:25] <pleia2> prep here: http://bit.ly/vDkJyf [17:27] * pleia2 bullet points cloud news [17:27] <pleia2> still need summaries for canonical news (some interesting stuff there!) and a couple blogosphere ones [17:29] <MooDoo> blogosphere as in new elemental os freya based on ubuntu released, that sort of things? [17:30] <pleia2> I don't think we have that article [17:30] <MooDoo> http://snwh.org/blog/2015-04-11-elementary-os-freya-release got it from the planet [17:31] <pleia2> ah yes, that would go under "The Planet" section if we chose to include it [17:32] <MooDoo> ah ok [17:32] <pleia2> we typically don't for things that are derivatives, because there are zillions [17:32] <pleia2> but we do need summaries for the articles we do have in the doc, if you have some free time today :) [17:33] <MooDoo> i'll try, it's 6:30 here in the uk so kids bed time lol should be ok for me to look later in the evening :) [17:34] <MooDoo> tara for now, little un is a callin. [17:34] <pleia2> have fun [17:44] <MooDoo> ok added one in between teeth cleans lol [17:46] <pleia2> MooDoo: thanks! be sure to add you name at the bottom of the document too :) [17:46] <MooDoo> wow not done that much lol [17:47] <MooDoo> but ok done, right now i am going, story time.... [17:47] <pleia2> :) [18:05] <pleia2> PaulW2U: I just order some UWN stickers from moo.com \o/ [18:07] <PaulW2U> so you took my idea seriously :) [18:07] <pleia2> yep, it was a good idea [18:08] <pleia2> didn't put any rush on them, so I should get them by the end of the month or so, then I'll send some off to you [18:08] <pleia2> the Xubuntu stickers went in the mail on Thursday, so hopefully those are coming your way soon [18:08] <PaulW2U> thanks [18:09] <PaulW2U> just ran out of steam this weekend - too many other things to deal with [18:09] <PaulW2U> hence still summaries to do [20:53] <PaulW2U> "In the Press" done, just three summaries left

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.571274

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-gr

[08:37] <Tassos> Χρόνια πολλά! Χριστός ανέστη φίλοι μου! Πολύ αγάπη εύχομαι σε όλους σας! :)) [18:47] <xeirwn> kalispera kai xronia polla paides [18:56] <D|nA> epishs [19:01] <xeirwn> kanw metafora foto's apo thn SDHC karta ston disko, kai metaferei polu arga ( 6,6MB/sec) :( [19:01] <xeirwn> ti kanw la8os ? [19:08] <xeirwn> uparxei tropos na ginetai pio grhgora ?

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.574859

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-hr

[05:36] <SilverSpace> jutro [06:02] <markosejic> d jutro [06:05] <jelly> *zijev* [06:07] <SilverSpace> ke [06:09] <markosejic> jelly: Pozz [06:09] <markosejic> SilverSpace: pozz [06:13] <jelly> nisam skuzio sta je bilo ricciardu [06:16] <SilverSpace> oo Mirko opet jaše [06:16] <SilverSpace> jelly: mislis na startu ? [06:16] <jelly> da [06:17] <SilverSpace> lose startao [06:17] <SilverSpace> koliko mi se cini malo prerano krenuo [07:14] <Mmike> SilverSpace, jel' ti dosadno? [07:14] <Mmike> bas je dosadno [07:20] <SilverSpace> da nista zanimljivo [07:20] <SilverSpace> tak ce vecina utrka bit ove godine [07:21] <SilverSpace> mercedes kontrolira vrh i bas ih briga [07:36] <Vlado9A3CY> dobro jutro [07:37] <SilverSpace> eh jebiga mali [07:38] <SilverSpace> kita od renaulta [07:38] <SilverSpace> gurnut u savu [07:41] <SilverSpace> gotova utrka SC [07:42] <Mmike> SilverSpace, ma manje vise za mercedes [07:42] <Mmike> i ovo iza je dosadno [07:42] <Mmike> onak [07:42] <Mmike> dosadno je :) [07:42] <Mmike> postaje F1 k'o HNL :) [07:42] <SilverSpace> :) [07:43] <SilverSpace> SC trebao prije 20 krugova ovako jebiga [07:44] <Mmike> a dobro nije mogao birat ovaj kad ce mu se potrgat auto :) [07:59] <Mmike> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A4P-wadRbc [07:59] <datase> YouTube: How to Pronounce Entrepreneurship - 0:00:09 - 145,411 views - 1269 likes / 15 dislikes [08:02] <VjetarSaSunca> kme [08:31] <SilverSpace> ke kme? [09:29] <SilverSpace> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBwLVBVW0AE3EOZ.jpg:large [09:29] <SilverSpace> :) [09:40] <jelly> http://hasmaldonadocrashedtoday.com/ [09:41] <jelly> "I define a 'crash' as contact that instantly ends a car's session. The Chinese Grand Prix was right on the limit, but since they were both able to drive away, I decided it was more of an 'assisted spin'." [09:55] <SilverSpace> lol [10:00] <SilverSpace> http://silverspace.bshellz.net/ [10:15] <SilverSpace> bio frend kod mene windoze man i gleda kako ja to iz terminala saljem na server datoteke i nista mu nije jasno [10:16] <SilverSpace> jos mu nije bilo janije mad sam vi otvorio i u njemu mjenjao html :) [10:19] <SilverSpace> u dvije minute napravio sve i on kaze jebote meni za to treba bar deset minuta [10:19] <SilverSpace> ne mogu ga nikako preobratiti na ubuntu [10:44] <jelly> Xpuctoc backpece [12:51] * Mmike ide na put [12:51] <Mmike> ajdte zdravo [12:52] <infy-> bok [12:52] * infy- ide crtat cikloide [12:52] <infy-> o/ [16:16] <Mmike> Cikolade? [16:16] <Mmike> Cto to je? [16:22] <Mmike> mozda je 12 virtualnih desktopa ipak previse :) [16:27] <Mmike> http://www.jutarnji.hr/s-ovim-hidroavionom-za-13-minuta-ste-na-hvaru--cijena-149-kuna---/1328748/?foto=4 [16:27] <Mmike> hehe [16:27] <vileni> ja sam na max 6 [16:27] <Mmike> cini se da ove godine u Jelsu idem - avionom! :0 [16:28] <vileni> Mmike: sto ti fali 6h na trajektu :) [16:29] <Mmike> vileni: 1h45m [16:29] <Mmike> katamaranom, uz stajanje u bolu, treba oko 1h10m [16:29] <Mmike> vileni: pa nist, al' ono, guba ce se bit spustit avionom drito u - jelsu [16:29] <vileni> Mmike: pa sto se bunis onda :) [16:29] <vileni> meni je super ta ideja [16:29] <Mmike> zao mi sto prosle godine nisu imali to, mogao sam od jelse do londona - avionom :D [16:30] <Mmike> vileni: ovo s hidroavionima? da, pre odlicna, pogotovo za po ljeti. [16:30] <vileni> ja bi zadar losinj recimo [16:30] <Mmike> zimi bas i ne, kad jugo ili bura zapusu, to je generalno sranje :) [16:30] <Mmike> pogotovo u jelsi di bura napravi ogromne valove [16:30] <vileni> letili smo dublin - zadar proslo ljeto, i prvo smo morali prespavati jer su upravo katamaran ukinuli [16:30] <vileni> i onda na jutarnji trajekt [16:30] <vileni> koji je bio ~6h [16:30] <vileni> a kombinacija je bila ili przenje na palubi, ili smrzavanje unutra [16:31] <vileni> dosao do losinja sa majicom dugih rukava, kapuljacom na glavi i ljubicastim prstima [16:31] <Mmike> 6h trajekt od losinja do zadra? [16:31] <vileni> Mmike: da, uvijek je tu negdje [16:31] <vileni> u kontra smjeru smo isto tako putovali [16:31] <Mmike> u brate mili [16:31] <vileni> obilazi par otoka [16:31] <Mmike> to je daleko [16:32] <vileni> a cestom ti ispadne slicno [16:32] <Mmike> akoja je alternativa? cres pa krk? [16:32] <vileni> da [16:32] <vileni> i moras imati vozilo ili kombinirati buseve do ri [16:32] <vileni> vozilo nismo imali, do ri nam se nije islo :) [16:32] <vileni> a da imas neki gliser za manje od 1h si tamo [16:33] <Mmike> i potrosis milijardu i pol :) [16:34] <Mmike> sestricna ima gliser, 60 konja bemzin [16:34] <Mmike> svaki dan idu na kupanje, nish sad drastivno - jedino odlaze na mjesta di je nama brodom (barkom) trebalo i po 1h10m [16:34] <Mmike> njima treba 10m :) [16:34] <Mmike> ugl, oni trose oko 500 kuna tjedno na benzin :) [16:35] <Mmike> za 500 kuna se dva mjeseca vozis dizlom :) [16:35] <Mmike> doduse, puno sporije :D [16:35] <vileni> Mmike: trose 500kn tjedno na uzitak :) [16:35] <Mmike> nije to uzitak [16:35] <Mmike> uzitak je ujutro, kad je more mirno [16:35] <vileni> ja bi radije barku [16:35] <Mmike> al' popodne kad maestral zapuse nemres picit - mozes, al' ono, izrazito je naporna voznja [16:35] <Mmike> i ja [16:35] <Mmike> da joj je max brzina 10-12 cvorova [16:35] <Mmike> cruise 8 [16:36] <Mmike> da ima kabinicu da se moze spavat [16:36] <vileni> Mmike: pa to, 10ak ks dizel i neka rokce on polako :) [16:36] <Mmike> to to :) [16:36] <vileni> isli mi na onaj turisticki izlet oko losinja [16:36] <vileni> i brodic nekih 8m [16:36] <vileni> kabina, nadstresnica, rostilj, frizider [16:37] <vileni> stane nam u pjescanu uvalu, mi sa kabine skacemo dok on friske lignje i srdele na rostilju [16:37] <vileni> idila [16:37] <Mmike> vileni: znas znanje :) [16:38] <Mmike> mein fluegzeug is bereit [16:38] <Mmike> odem dalje [16:38] <Mmike> vidimo se [18:55] <Mmike> Biem biem [19:18] <Mmike> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA-84SIFnSo [19:18] <Mmike> ma da [19:18] <datase> YouTube: Train interferes with Paris - Roubaix 2015 HD - 0:01:10 - 267,712 views - 368 likes / 38 dislikes [20:06] <vileni> Mmike: sta si letio nekamo? [20:16] <Mmike> vileni: u nuernberg [20:16] <Mmike> nurnberg [20:17] <Mmike> nuremberg [20:17] <Mmike> jebemu [20:20] <vileni> glavno da dodjes kamo trebas, ne moras tocno znati kako se zove :) [20:41] <Mmike> ima kebab [20:41] <Mmike> tu [20:41] <Mmike> odmah pored hotela [20:41] <Mmike> jedno 10ak minuta hoda [20:41] <Mmike> malo manje [20:41] <Mmike> radi cijelu noc [20:41] <Mmike> tj, radi do 5 ujutro [20:41] <Mmike> pa da sam u raj doso nebi bilo tak super :0 [20:45] <vileni> heh, mi danas isli na OSV u dugo selo, tamo ni pekaru ne mozes naci da radi poslije 13 [20:58] <Mmike> osv? [21:11] <vileni> Mmike: ocjensko spretnostne voznje [21:11] <vileni> frend vozio [21:12] <Mmike> fino [21:12] <Mmike> kol'k para? [21:28] <vileni> Mmike: za voznju? nemam pojma :) [21:28] <vileni> imali su amatere, tj vozace bez licence [21:28] <vileni> znam da je za slalom 300kn obicno, ali moras imati licencu i biti clan kluba [21:29] <vileni> u OSV su obicno najbrzi jugici, ali razvalio ih neki lik koji je iz bosne dosao sa pug 106 od zene [21:30] <vileni> nije uopce sredjen za utrke, samo lik vrhunski vozi [21:30] <vileni> http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/21/ee5921fd9bc5d5ec84dad8a169ab3ec5.jpg [22:07] <jelly> hm, repriza utrke na rtl

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.590856

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-discuss

[03:20] <lotuspsychje> hello [03:20] <daftykins> just to warn you, today's asshat is [Saint] [03:20] <lotuspsychje> im trying to gather supporters into here for a nice chichat [03:20] <daftykins> ah ok ^_^ [03:20] <lotuspsychje> this is a calm channel, not so crowdy as offtopic [03:21] <daftykins> i did often think it'd be handy to have a place volunteers could chat [03:21] <daftykins> though apparently it was done and failed once before [03:21] <lotuspsychje> yes thats the idea, because we have the nicest crew [03:21] <OerHeks> else #ubuntu-beginners :-D [03:21] <lotuspsychje> loool [03:22] <OerHeks> invite only ... mehh [03:22] <lotuspsychje> oldskool beginners [03:23] <daftykins> i should be asleep but i got into baseball last year so i'm watching a game - despite it being 4am here [03:23] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: set this channel to idle ok, ill invite some more during the day [03:23] <daftykins> ok :> [03:25] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: a new openstack tweet: https://twitter.com/ubuntu [03:25] <lotuspsychje> and a lot of ubuntu phone news open to public to buy :p [03:26] <daftykins> heh ubunt.eu is really confusing [03:26] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: howso? [03:27] <daftykins> it's like you've still got the final 'u' of ubuntu but with the e there it goes funny [03:27] <daftykins> eh i'm just being silly i think :> [03:28] <lotuspsychje> lol [03:28] <lotuspsychje> not sure why they did that [03:30] <lotuspsychje> did you guys see this one? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/ubuntu-mate-inks-first-hardware-deal [03:36] <OerHeks> nice, affordable [03:38] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: looks promising right :p [03:42] <daftykins> hmm never heard of Entroware [03:42] <lotuspsychje> me neither [03:43] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu is getting big in the world :p [03:43] <daftykins> ah ok they just sell things like Clevo machines [03:44] <daftykins> i would love a Dell XPS 13 FHD if i were in the market for a new machine :D 15 hour battery (under Windows at least) [03:44] <lotuspsychje> ah clevo thats those barebone laptops right [03:44] <daftykins> yeah, so whoever that co. are are just grabbing them, putting specs together and throwing an OS on [03:44] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: did you see that dell on the twitter page [03:44] <daftykins> no sir [03:45] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/09/designed-for-developers-dell-launches-two-new-ubuntu-based-systems/?utm_source=ubunteu&utm_medium=url_shortner&utm_term=9H8bb0&utm_campaign=shortner [03:47] <daftykins> only trouble is i'm always under the impression the Linuxes suffer for battery life - which is always my #1 attribute for laptops [03:47] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: well im gonna open an ubuntu computer store soon in my country, with only samsung ssd pro insides and ubuntu LTS [03:48] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: still trying to find a nice barebone company [03:48] <zerowaitstate> daftykins: I am on a linux laptop right now; of course it's hard for me to decide how power hungry it is given that it has a 17" screen, 16 GB of RAM, and a 6 core processor [03:49] <daftykins> ouch that sounds like a desktop replacement chunker :) [03:49] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: ah neat! [03:49] <lotuspsychje> zerowaitstate: what brand is this? [03:49] <zerowaitstate> system76 [03:49] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: something like system76 yeah [03:50] <lotuspsychje> zerowaitstate: oh nice, but those are really expensive right [03:50] <zerowaitstate> cheaper than the dell you linked [03:50] <lotuspsychje> true [03:50] <lotuspsychje> and the hardware rox on system76 :p [03:50] <zerowaitstate> depends on which model, from what i've read [03:51] <zerowaitstate> they don't actually make the PC; it's a third-party off brand [03:51] <lotuspsychje> zerowaitstate: do you know wich brand? [03:51] <zerowaitstate> taiwanese something something [03:51] <zerowaitstate> that send it to you in a box that says something like "please enjoy computer with complement" [03:52] <lotuspsychje> i found BTO laptops was promising for barebones [03:53] <lotuspsychje> but OerHeks suggested me to contact HP as they are stable to linux, maybe they can deliver barebones too [03:53] <zerowaitstate> HP EliteBooks are very good build quality [03:54] <zerowaitstate> I had one for work and it rocked [03:54] <lotuspsychje> i dont want a hd inside and neither an Os [03:54] <lotuspsychje> so i can put samsung ssd pro inside and format with ubuntu [03:54] <lotuspsychje> so it will be lowcost for the end-user with ubuntu as free Os [03:55] <lotuspsychje> and rocketfast as a tablet :p [03:56] <zerowaitstate> lotuspsychje: you want an msata [03:57] <lotuspsychje> zerowaitstate: yeah samsung pro 850 msata would rocknroll :p [03:58] <lotuspsychje> zerowaitstate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wUdtcD5gYw [03:59] <lotuspsychje> not much ubuntu samsung pro 850 video's yet [09:59] <badbodh> part [11:55] <lordievader> o/ [11:55] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: nice and calm here :p [12:05] <OerHeks> Not anymore [12:06] <lotuspsychje> lol [14:27] <BluesKaj> howdy [14:27] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: hello mate [14:27] <OerHeks> hey BluesKaj [14:28] <BluesKaj> \hi lotuspsychje, OerHeks [14:30] <BluesKaj> hope you don't mind a Kubuntu guy in here :) [14:30] <lotuspsychje> we like all kinds of flavors :p [14:31] <OerHeks> Nothing wrong with guys [14:31] <OerHeks> oh, Kubuntu :-P [14:31] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: welcome :p [14:31] <lordievader> OerHeks: :P [14:31] <cfhowlett> yowza!! [14:32] <OerHeks> I certainly install plasma5 when 15.04 is out. [14:32] <lotuspsychje> this will be our private ubuntu chitchat while we do support :p [14:34] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, plasma 5 is default on Kubuntu 15.04 [14:35] <lotuspsychje> everyone thrilled with 15.04 so it seems [14:36] <BluesKaj> I'm not real thrilled, some of my favourite features are missing so far [14:37] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: wich ones? [14:38] <BluesKaj> no more separate widgets/backgrounds for Virtual Desktops is my main complaint [14:39] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: welcome :p [14:39] <BluesKaj> forced into trying to configure activities, which is something I didn''t need [14:39] <BluesKaj> hi EriC^^ [14:39] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: thanks [14:39] <EriC^^> hi BluesKaj [14:40] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: well didnt test vivid myself, im sticking to trusty for a while :p [14:41] <BluesKaj> I'm using Kubuntu 15.04 for testing as requested, but ai still prefer 14.10 and plasma 4 .. it's actually my main OS atm [14:41] <lotuspsychje> cool [14:41] <cfhowlett> LTS only = sanity saving measure IMHO [14:42] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: did you see that MATE laptop on omgubuntu? [14:42] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: lol [14:42] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, no I didn't [14:42] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/ubuntu-mate-inks-first-hardware-deal [14:42] <lotuspsychje> check it out :p [14:44] <cfhowlett> wait, so now specific distros are getting OEM hardware deals? Then I must disagree with DELL. The Sputnik m3800 is currently offered as a developer laptop. Should also be offered with ubuntustudio as a Multimedia Creation Laptop. [14:46] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu is spreading wings worldwide :p [14:48] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: the other day a user shouted in #ubuntu-touch about ubuntu going deal with microsoft lol [14:48] <lotuspsychje> with all the cloud deals and snappy core n such [14:49] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, yeah, he missed the 04/01 memo [14:49] <lotuspsychje> :p [14:54] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, got url to the memo ? [14:55] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, nah, we gotta wait until next April Fool's Day. [14:55] <OerHeks> :-D [14:55] <BluesKaj> heh [14:56] <BluesKaj> shoulda known [15:02] <BluesKaj> was running W7 as guest on qemu-kvm , but the LAN configuration required escapes me despite the tutorials I tried , but then i realized I don't need windows anymore since linux has better networking anyway , and it works well on our LAN with the other windows machines ...guess I'm just an old windows guy who can't let go [15:03] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, I have windows 7 + office 2010 in a vbox, but I boot it up maybe 30 minutes per month. [15:05] <BluesKaj> yeah cfhowlett , not much point to it , is there [15:05] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, certainly no pressing need. [15:10] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, I suppose you need it occasionally for work ? [15:11] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, yeah. oxford english language dictionary is SUPPOSED to work on linux but doesn't so ... windows needed. [15:12] <BluesKaj> right' [15:16] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, I was just looking at the ubuntu-mate laptops specs, not real impressive for the money [15:18] <BluesKaj> but I suppose a working linux configuration is worth something extra, less work to do on the users part [15:24] <cfhowlett> most users aren't like us. most uses aren't even like most IRC folks. they want it to "just work" otherwise they are quick to run back to the more familiar win/OSX [15:26] <OerHeks> Maybe IRC folks are the worst, demanding. [15:27] <OerHeks> Anyway, it is live Q&A. [15:28] <cfhowlett> case in point ... see the latest [15:28] <BluesKaj> I think most irc users have a 'hobby" or extra cirricular pursuit/activity and use irc as a forum to exchange information, altho there are a lot of chats that have no real subject ... just plain chit chat [15:30] <BluesKaj> I discovered irc as an audio hobbyist looking for info and help [15:46] <BluesKaj> BBL [17:09] <daftykins> ah my good ol' desktop Das Keyboard, today enjoys dropping the letter O :D [19:15] <daftykins> i vote ovsjanij for troll [19:22] <BluesKaj> daftykins, who? [19:29] <daftykins> BluesKaj: it's the nick of a time waster in #ubuntu [19:32] <BluesKaj> daftykins, yes I see, one of those one word info types, who expects help with little or no info forthcoiming about his issue. [19:34] <daftykins> i think it's someone that knows the oft-enforced channel policy and is trolling it :)

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.596736

2015-04-12-#ubuntu

[00:00] <shyni> hello [00:00] <Codenomics> #hashtag [00:00] <shyni> my laptop isn't detecting any usb devices [00:00] <shyni> I'm not sure what happened [00:02] <hkrrsx> shyni: Reboot without anything connected to the laptop? [00:02] <bindi> hi [00:03] <hkrrsx> Then re-connect your device? [00:03] <shyni> 'kay [00:03] <bindi> i'm on 14.04.2 LTS, does "dist-upgrade" give me 14.10 or 14.02.3? [00:03] <bindi> apt-get dist-upgrade that is [00:04] <hkrrsx> bindi: do-release-upgrade should take you to 14.10 [00:04] <bindi> i don't want that though [00:04] <bindi> i'm asking where does dist-upgrade take me [00:04] <hkrrsx> apt-get upgrade should take you to 14.04.2 [00:04] <bindi> i'm on 14.04.2... [00:04] <hkrrsx> Sorry, I meant 14.04.3 [00:04] <bindi> well i already did that, haven't rebooted [00:04] <bindi> do i want to do dist-upgade aswell? [00:04] <hkrrsx> Not yet [00:05] <hkrrsx> Reboot first and check lsb_release -d
 shyni: Reboot without anything connected to the laptop? [00:08] <shyni> didn't work [00:08] <hkrrsx> shyni: Did you plug the USB device back in? [00:08] <shyni> yes [00:09] <hkrrsx> What USB device is it and does it show up in dmesg ? [00:09] <hkrrsx> shyni: Or better yet, run " lsusb " and see if the device is listed [00:09] <shyni> nothing shows up in lsusb [00:10] <hkrrsx> Unplug the device, plug it back in and re-run lsusb [00:10] <shyni> yeah, doesn't detect any sort of device [00:10] <shyni> neither the mouse nor the pendrive [00:11] <hiexpo> than you have a usb issue [00:11] <hkrrsx> shyni: Are your USB ports enabled ? [00:11] <penguser> hey, is this a bug?: when I switch keyboard layouts, the authorization screen pops up [00:11] <shyni> I didn't /dis/able them [00:11] <penguser> but, I can click cancel... and proceed... so, it's coming up for nothing [00:12] <hkrrsx> shyni: Do ANY USB devices work on that laptop? [00:12] <penguser> it's annoying... does anyone know what's going on? [00:12] <shyni> doesn't look like it [00:12] <shyni> the mouse lights up [00:12] <shyni> but that's it [00:12] <hkrrsx> shyni: Sounds more like a hardware problem [00:12] <shyni> things used to work until last night [00:12] <shyni> oh [00:13] <hiexpo> try to boot with libe usb [00:13] <hiexpo> live^ [00:15] <hiexpo> shyni, doesnt mean its a linux prob. usb could have failed [00:15] <shyni> i'll try [00:17] <[n0mad]> why are there so many usb issues reported? i know that usb freaks out in windows too but it's been around for 20 years now. [00:18] <hiexpo> i have never had an usb issue > operator error? [00:18] <hkrrsx> [n0mad]: Perhaps USB has spring allergies [00:18] <DANtheBEASTman> i'm getting a massive amount of perl errors everywhere on 14.04, anytime I install a package now I get debconf: Perl may be unconfigured (Can't locate IO/File.pm in @INC (you may need to install the IO::File module) [00:18] <DANtheBEASTman> and yet I can't cpan install anything for the same reasons [00:18] <[n0mad]> good to hear. i know that you only hear the problems but it's actually had me paranoid to start plugging in anything lol [00:19] <[Saint]> [n0mad]: re: USB issues - because virtually NOTHING follows USB spec. [00:19] <Guest88422> anyone using xubuntu here? [00:20] <DANtheBEASTman> Guest88422: don't ask to ask [00:20] <[Saint]> Its all a magical clusterfuck of things that are glued together with hope and prayers and bailing twine. [00:20] <[n0mad]> lol [Saint] [00:22] <[Saint]> If every USB device and driver suddenly started following the USB spec to the letter, ~90% of people's peripherals would just abruptly fall over and die. [00:23] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: For starters pastebin -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- see what the package manager is unhappy about . [00:23] <hiexpo> for sure [00:26] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: http://sprunge.us/JXNc [00:27] <shyni> hello [00:27] <shyni> I booted from a USB [00:27] <shyni> other devices work now [00:28] <shyni> even the mouse [00:28] <shyni> lsusb detects things [00:29] <shyni> so the earlier issue must have been a software thing [00:32] <rexus> Hi Guys.. in Ubuntu 14.04 and 14.10, what's the proper way of stopping a service? [00:32] <DANtheBEASTman> rexus: sudo service stop {} [00:33] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Look'n at your http://sprunge.us/JXNc . [00:34] <DANtheBEASTman> rexus: also, if you want to disable a service from running at boot you use sudo upate-rc.d -f remove {} [00:34] <rexus> DANtheBEASTman: what I understand is that both are using upstart, so I was thinking it should be using the upstart command. [00:34] <rexus> although I also understand that SystemV command is still working.. [00:34] <Codenomics> ugh, seems that my server just refuses to boot from this thumb drive [00:34] <guest_001> <3 windows! [00:34] <DANtheBEASTman> rexus: i don't know a whole lot about upstart specifics, but I do know that `service` is considered the standard way to manage services [00:38] <rexus> DANtheBEASTman, what is this command called initctl ? [00:38] <DANtheBEASTman> honestly, no idea [00:39] <DANtheBEASTman> i'm sure you can run `man` on it and find out more though [00:39] <rexus> yeah, I'm checking on it now.. [00:39] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: "Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.16.0-34-generic_3.16.0-34.45~14.04.1_amd64.deb " // let's try -> sudo apt-get clean , sudo apt-get update <- . [00:40] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: not that I have trouble parsing what you mean, but i'm curious why you use , rather than ; [00:41] <DANtheBEASTman> apt-get clean had no output [00:41] <DANtheBEASTman> update worked fine.. [00:41] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Just the 'syntax' I 1st encountered here on IRC to seperate commands . [00:43] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Let's see of we can get those "75 not fully installed or removed." .. with caution -> sudo apt-get autoremove <- . Pay attention to what the system will remove . [00:45] <DANtheBEASTman> i feel like I should note this is a problem i'm having with perl, rather than apt [00:46] <DANtheBEASTman> apt just happens to depend on perl and that's where I noticed this problem [00:46] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: I look at it as 'pearl' is a package, and use the package manager to see what the problem is .. I have been known to be out in left field, though . [00:47] <shyni> can anyone help me with my USB problem? [00:48] <DANtheBEASTman> I did a `sudo dpkg --configure -a` and it fixed some of the not fully installed problems, I'm down to 9, and all mostly kernel related [00:48] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: so your install is having trouble with usb, but usb works on a live cd? [00:49] <shyni> yes [00:49] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: so you can fairly rule out it's not a hardware issue, and is an issue with your current install? if it were me, I'd just re-install.... but I doubt that's the answer you're looking for [00:50] <shyni> I'd rather not have to reinstall [00:50] <daftykins> shyni: laptop? [00:50] <shyni> yes [00:50] <shyni> I /can/ just reinstall, I'd just rather not have to [00:50] <daftykins> shyni: pastebin'd 'dmesg' when booting the install whilst USB doesn't work? [00:50] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: OK, back to seeing what the package management status is now -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- then see what the next step is . [00:50] <xbmc> hello [00:50] <shyni> I haven't done a dmesg [00:51] <xbmc> http://script.quakenet.org/paste/1675036 my system started spamming this to my syslog [00:51] <xbmc> no hw changes (2 weeks ago i plugged in a webcam and configured motion), had 50d uptime [00:51] <daftykins> shyni: then that's the next step! :D it should tell what's up with USB. beyond that, try removing the mains + battery, let the laptop sit for 2 mins, then plug in and power up [00:51] <xbmc> i was confused by my sys disk going full, removed stuff.. went full again. found out my syslog was being spammed [00:51] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: http://sprunge.us/XIBF [00:52] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: look'n at http://sprunge.us/XIBF . [00:52] <shyni> should I boot normally again and /then/ do a dmesg? [00:52] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: yes [00:52] <daftykins> shyni: whichever you feel like [00:53] <shyni> okay [00:53] <mehn> i have a netbook that only has ubuntu server installed on it and wifi but no CD drive, is there a way i can reinstall the os from just the command line? [00:53] <mehn> or preferably install xubuntu on it from the command line [00:53] <xbmc> (if anyone tackles my problem, ill be back in a bit) [00:54] <daftykins> mehn: just install the xubuntu-desktop package, if it's a supported version [00:54] <genii> mehn: If it has an USB better to dd the iso onto an USB stick and boot to that [00:54] <daftykins> but bear in mind all netbooks should be shot out of a cannon into the sun in 2015 [00:54] * daftykins slides genii a coffee [00:54] <genii> daftykins: Caffeine, awesome! [00:54] <coffee-> O_O [00:55] * genii sips coffee [00:55] <mehn> as a fallback i just want to delete the o/s permanently and sell it on craigslist and let someone who buys it install whatever tghey want [00:55] <daftykins> coffee-: i'd apologise but your nick is second to the guy the other day called 'apt-get' in here :P [00:55] <mehn> how would i delete ubuntu for good from the command line? just fdisk? [00:55] <mehn> i don't want them to have access to my data if they try to recover it [00:55] <daftykins> mehn: dd [00:55] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Think'n as on my system : " sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /usr/local/share/perl/ >> ls: cannot access /usr/local/share/perl/: No such file or directory . Does not exist on a default install . [00:55] <mehn> daftykins: do you know the full command? [00:56] <coffee-> lol daftykins [00:56] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: right.. [00:56] <daftykins> mehn: well i don't think the OS will appreciate running 'dd' on the hard disk from the install, it might actually scream as it goes down - worth a go i suppose though - "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M" [00:57] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: the line saying (@INC contains: {list of paths}) is saying where perl is looking for things and can't find it. a bit like saying, command does not exist in $PATH [00:57] <mehn> thx [01:02] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: this might illustrate my point better, which I got after running `dpkg --configure -a` http://sprunge.us/QCKi [01:03] <[Saint]> daftykins: surprisingly, it tolerates it very well. [01:03] <daftykins> huzzah [01:03] <DANtheBEASTman> all these are perl problems, and apt depends on perl. reinstalling perl doesn't help [01:03] <daftykins> it'll take hours though [01:03] <[Saint]> I wouldn't do this from the install itself, though. [01:03] <[Saint]> Do it from a liveCD/DVD/USB [01:04] <[Saint]> then you can actually verify after the fact. [01:04] * trollkin [01:04] <daftykins> oh you're not the person [01:04] <xbmc> nobody tackled my problem? :p [01:04] <daftykins> yes i would normally suggest to do it from a live session, but NOT doing exactly that was what the user asked for [01:05] <daftykins> xbmc: guessing by your nickname you're typing from xbmcbuntu? [01:05] <xbmc> nah, ubuntu 14.04.02 lts, just my user name [01:06] <daftykins> xbmc: ok well your kernel is out of date in that pastebin [01:06] <daftykins> 3.13.0-34 is old [01:06] <xbmc> how do i update? i did update, upgrade and dist-upgrade [01:06] <daftykins> you must not have linux-generic installed [01:06] <xbmc> root@meskhenet:~# dpkg -l | grep linux-generic [01:06] <xbmc> ii linux-generic 3.13.0.49.56 amd64 Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers [01:07] <daftykins> well, you're not booting into it [01:07] <daftykins> check /boot for it being present [01:07] <xbmc> how am i not booting into it [01:07] <daftykins> or dpkg -l | grep linux-image-3.13 [01:07] <daftykins> GRUB default. [01:07] <xbmc> i linux-image-3.13.0-34-generic 3.13.0-34.60 amd64 Linux kernel image for version 3.13.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP [01:07] <xbmc> ii linux-image-3.13.0-49-generic 3.13.0-49.81 amd64 Linux kernel image for version 3.13.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP [01:08] <daftykins> stop pasting in channel please [01:08] <xbmc> ii on the first chars [01:08] <xbmc> sorry :p its really hard to pastebin shit [01:08] <daftykins> yes i can read :) [01:08] <daftykins> language. [01:08] <daftykins> so yeah, either you haven't rebooted or it's not GRUB default [01:08] <xbmc> .... sorry about that too. i'm kind of intoxicated and my system broke when it was just "running fine" [01:08] <daftykins> but until you're on current there's not much point trying to resolve issues [01:08] <xbmc> i really havent done anything special. just install ubuntu, xbmc, and keep doing updates [01:09] <xbmc> how can i check the grub default? [01:09] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Yesh on the looking for paths .. and hollering about line 7 .. compare -> cat /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm <- to mine : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10805114/ at or about line 7 . [01:09] <daftykins> !grub [01:09] <xbmc> uggggggggh are you making me read whole pages now :p [01:09] <daftykins> yes [01:09] <daftykins> also it's called Kodi these days [01:10] <xbmc> well i'm not gonna change my username for that :> [01:10] <xbmc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10805120/ [01:10] <xbmc> this what you wanted? [01:10] <xbmc> hm no [01:11] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: all the same. [01:11] <xbmc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10805125/ [01:12] <daftykins> i don't need to see a config file, it's not really gonna help me - just give it a good think :) [01:12] <xbmc> eh [01:12] <daftykins> wouldn't hurt to run sudo update-grub and see if it spots the kernels [01:13] <xbmc> http://script.quakenet.org/paste/1675081 [01:13] <xbmc> looks good y/n? =D [01:13] <xbmc> ima change my name so..eh. yeah. [01:13] <daftykins> you should probably call it a night early and work on it tomorrow if you're up late drunk :> [01:14] <shyni> hello [01:14] <daftykins> wb [01:14] <bindi> no, i want to wake up tomorrow and be good on binge watching series :p i need to fix this [01:14] <shyni> I removed the batteries and all [01:14] <shyni> usb devices still not working [01:14] <bindi> daftykins: btw. i do have an ES cpu. if that might explain the problem at all [01:15] <daftykins> engineering sample? oh nice [01:15] <bindi> yeah [01:15] <bindi> i7 920. reported as "i7 000" in /proc/cpuinfo [01:15] <daftykins> shyni: so you need to boot the install and share a "dmesg | pastebinit" ideally. [01:16] <daftykins> bindi: you know how to hold left shift and pick a kernel manually right? [01:16] <daftykins> 'cause i think you should go do that [01:16] <bindi> daftykins: i dont have a kb attached to the pc [01:16] <shyni> http://pastebin.com/DQJWE485 [01:16] <bindi> just a bt one. doesnt work during boot time [01:17] <shyni> (i'm on my regular install and not the liveusb right now, by the way) [01:17] <shyni> lsusb still doesn't detect anything [01:17] <daftykins> bindi: then you're going to need to resolve that. [01:17] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: I am back to think'n .. I be back soonest. [01:18] <daftykins> shyni: kernel and ubuntu version? [01:18] <bindi> daftykins: you're saying 3.13 is *not* latest for 14.04.2? [01:18] <shyni> ubuntu 14.04 [01:18] <bindi> daftykins: is there no command for doing that shift thingy? [01:20] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: As 'perl' is a package, how 'bout -> sudo dpkg-reconfigure perl <- see what the system reports ? [01:20] <daftykins> bindi: this is prior to the OS loading, you can't run a command from nothing... [01:20] <daftykins> bindi: just resolve the default. [01:20] <daftykins> shyni: and kernel? "uname -r" [01:20] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: http://sprunge.us/VLOc [01:21] <shyni> 3.13.0-49-generic [01:21] <daftykins> shyni: ok well at least you're up to date, anywho it's too late for me to help really - but what i had been after was 'dmesg' , not 'dmesg | grep usb' :P [01:21] <shyni> oh [01:21] <daftykins> read the output and it might give some clues, or maybe your hardware is just too new i don't know, i don't have time now to ask further questions [01:22] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: look'n at http://sprunge.us/VLOc . [01:22] <shyni> wow it's actually too big for the terminal or something [01:23] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: pipe it to less [01:23] <daftykins> or into a file in ~ to read with a text editor [01:23] <shyni> how do I do that? [01:23] <daftykins> shyni: hang on when you boot from live, are you booting 14.04.1 or 14.04.2? [01:23] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: dmesg | less [01:23] <bindi> daftykins: i'm pretty sure 3.13 is latest for 14.04.2 [01:24] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: fwiw, you could've reinstalled by now [01:24] <daftykins> bindi: you're ignoring the minor version of -49. [01:24] <shyni> daftykins: not sure [01:25] <daftykins> bindi: and you're also wrong, a dist-upgrade'd 14.04 will stay on 3.13 but a fresh installed 14.04.2 will install with the utopic HWE stack and thus use 3.16 [01:25] <shyni> http://pastebin.com/up22vgzS [01:25] <bindi> daftykins: so can you help me get me to 3.16? :p [01:26] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Humm .. still screaming and hollering about that one file : my perl version: perl --version >> This is perl 5, version 18, subversion 2 (v5.18.2) built for x86_64-linux-gnu-th read-multi (with 41 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail) // Yours same ? maybe use my file ? [01:26] <daftykins> bindi: no. [01:27] <daftykins> bindi: also that's not what i said to do, i'm going now because you're paying 0 attention [01:27] <DANtheBEASTman> yep, same file version, from what I can tell, but I also can't run perl --version [01:27] <bindi> i'm paying attention, i just dont understand everything :| just because we're talking kernels and sh...stuff, you shouldn't assume i'm pro in this area [01:27] <bindi> i know ubuntu and apt-get :D [01:28] <[Saint]> Don't worry, there's no risk of anyone assuming you're a pro. [01:28] <daftykins> ^ [01:28] <[Saint]> Far from it. [01:28] <bindi> no shi...........stuff [01:28] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: do you have any experience with car mechanics? have you ever had a problem with a car, where you know exactly what the problem is, but you don't know what's causing it? [01:28] <[Saint]> Why do people do this? [01:29] <bindi> why do I do what, [Saint]? [01:29] <shyni> no [01:29] <bindi> hi thommey, got milk? [01:29] <[Saint]> "Oh, wowzorz! Linux!" [01:29] <[Saint]> "I know nothing about this, but I sure am going to jump right in and pretend!" [01:29] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Still, think it worth a shot, see what results, Back up your current file and mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10805102/ . [01:29] <[Saint]> "Reading? nah....pffft!" [01:29] <bindi> [Saint]: sure, i can do reading. but this is way too complex for me [01:30] <shyni> fwiw this is what I get from opening my dmesg log in gedit http://pastebin.com/ra7ez8gi [01:30] <[Saint]> I'm sure there's a shiny Windows install ready to welcome you back to it somewhere, or, you could take some time and do some research before diving into the deep end and wasting your time and the time of those trying to assist you. [01:31] <daftykins> [Saint]: it's the ones that threaten to go back to Windows that make me laugh the most [01:32] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: well, that's exactly where you're at now, you have this problem, but you don't know how to fix it or what's causing it. standard-ops for this kind of thing in cars is to think of the most simple problem that could cause it, test that idea, fix it or move on to the next complex idea. it's all, test this, then test that. car owners and mechanics alike often wish that it was more feasible to just replace [01:32] <DANtheBEASTman> everything, but that's very cost expensive. fortuntately, when it comes to computers, you can replace everything without it costing you much but your time. [01:32] <jaysonl> Hi all. Ubuntu 15.04 user here, wondering what else I have to do besides removing the usual "-nolisten TCP" bit I need to do in order to get X to listen on port 6000... [01:32] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: -> apt-cache policy perl <- . mine : Installed: 5.18.2-2ubuntu1 . [01:32] <bindi> [Saint]: nah, i dont think zfs runs that well on windows [01:32] <daftykins> jaysonl: #ubuntu+1 for 15.04 as it's not out yet [01:33] <jaysonl> daftkykins: aye aye, thank you [01:33] <shyni> guess I should just transfer some files and then reinstall everything [01:33] <shyni> ...? [01:33] <DANtheBEASTman> point being, shyni, you can sit here and listen to these guys try and diagnose your problem from afar and wait for there answers, hoping it fixes it, or you could try making a list of your installed pakcages, back-up your configs, and reinstall. [01:33] <[Saint]> bindi: ZFS? [01:33] <[Saint]> Oh man, this just keeps getting better. [01:33] <[Saint]> Have fun honey... [01:34] <daftykins> lmao. [01:34] <[Saint]> Filesystems that work? [01:34] <DANtheBEASTman> shyni: i'm not saying it's your only option, but it's one to consider. [01:34] <[Saint]> 'aint nobody gots time fo dat. [01:34] <OerHeks> [Saint], so do you have a support question, or just here to troll ? [01:37] <[Saint]> Discussing problematic new users that are wasting the time of those that are trying to help them by way of refusing to help themselves is trolling huh? [01:37] <[Saint]> God I hate that word. [01:37] <[Saint]> Anyway, cool story honey. [01:37] <daftykins> basically, help, ask a question or go away [01:37] <[Saint]> but you just... [01:38] <daftykins> yes but now you're whinging on every line - that's not gonna fly. [01:38] <bindi> so do you bash (Not the shell! i know that much, >:)) everyone who has a more complex question than "how do i ubuntu????" and tell them "blah blah blah, honey", [Saint]? [01:38] <bindi> btw i think reiserfs is murderlike good. i just wanted to try out zfs as a close friend of mine personally recommended it for me over windows [01:38] * [n0mad] gets popcorn [01:40] <bindi> i mean really, i had an ubuntu installation that worked fine, xbmc playing me my favourite series. then all of the sudden my syslog is spammed with that stuff i pasted earlier [01:40] <bindi> you tell me my kernel has gone old during it's runtime [01:40] <bindi> and it's my job as a linux user to read on "How the kernel works, part 1/3400234" and figure it out myself? :D [01:40] <[n0mad]> could be [01:41] <daftykins> i had said to make the -49 the default, but you've kinda flicked into time wasting on here instead of working on your problem [01:41] <bindi> let's say i switched to ubuntu because "i dont like windows because x". i dont know what "switching to -49" means. can you help me with that? [01:41] <[n0mad]> and i have no idea if you need to update your kernel, but here's information on upgrading it http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/08/install-upgrade-linux-kernel-3-16/ [01:41] <[n0mad]> there's also ones for 3.17 and 3.18 [01:42] <daftykins> bindi: i told you already, kernel 3.13.0-49 and AGAIN you're just being purposefully useless [01:42] <daftykins> can't tolerate this lack of effort, go to bed and work on it when you're willing to lift a finger [01:43] <daftykins> or perhaps one of the other channel volunteers is feeling particularly charitable this evening [01:43] <rainbowwarrior> Hi All , I am using Ubuntu 14.10 and I can not find how to install DVDStyler 2.9.2 can someone please help ? [01:45] <hkrrsx> rainbowwarrior: Looks like dvdstyler is in the universe repository [01:45] <Ekips> Less of amusement here than I was promised [01:46] <OerHeks> Ekips, the topic didn't promise you amusement, just ubuntu support. [01:47] <Ekips> I'm not talking about the topic though :) [01:48] <OerHeks> rainbowwarrior, install dvdstyler 2.7.2 from our repos (supported), or use the ppa for 2.9.2 ( no support ) https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuhandbook1/+archive/ubuntu/dvdstyler/+index?field.series_filter= [01:49] <Ekips> Blame thommey, really [01:49] <bindi> hey Ekips. do you have experience on reiserfs? i'm contemplating on changing to that [01:49] <Ekips> ReiserFS is pretty dead [01:49] <rainbowwarrior> OerHeks ok thank you [01:50] <OerHeks> !reiserfs [01:50] <Ekips> Like its proverbial wife [01:50] <[n0mad]> mmm data loss [01:50] <Ekips> That is correct though [01:51] <Ekips> But when there was no ext4, ReiserFS was a great choice [01:51] <Ekips> Nowadays, meh [01:51] <dedhero0> hello [01:51] <[Saint]> But it's edgy though, how many other filesystems were created by convicted murderers I wonder? [01:52] <Ekips> Yeah, it has that going for it of course [01:52] <bindi> !ot | Ekips [01:53] <Ekips> Great, that's what I get for helping a drunk 12 year old for about an hour ^^ [01:54] <dedhero0> anyone thinking about upgrading to 15.04? [01:54] <Guest40349> no [01:54] <Guest40349> :p [01:54] <OerHeks> dedhero0, sure, on the 27th [01:55] <OerHeks> make sure you have the iso downloaded before upgrading, just in case .. :-) [01:57] <dedhero0> I'm using 14.04 since its lts not sure about upgrading my PC. So far I have no problems and I like it this way :) [01:58] <dedhero0> I have a laptop I use to test stuff on, I might install it on that [01:59] <dedhero0> of course Oerheks.. just in case ;) [02:02] <Rudi_STEiN> Ello. [02:20] * a1z3n wave hello [02:22] * a1z3n anyone going to talk in here? [02:23] <daftykins> not until you ask a support question, as it's not a chat channel :) [02:24] * a1z3n thank you... how do I get to a chat channel, or any channel for that matter? [02:24] <daftykins> !ot [02:24] <Ekips> You might want to start considering typing text and pressing "enter" without preceding it with a /me when not performing an action, too [02:25] <Ekips> Which is just a general hint, not a Ubuntu related one [02:25] <a1z3n> sorry... just started using Ubuntu - switching from windows... finally [02:26] <a1z3n> #ubuntu-offtopic [02:27] <daftykins> "/join #channel-name" [02:27] <Ekips> Or, you know, type it and doubleclick it, it seems [02:28] <daftykins> Ekips: you can drop your rude approach now :) [02:28] <Ekips> Even when it's mentioned a few lines higher up [02:28] <Ekips> Hey, I'm at my friendliest here ;) [02:33] <gr33n7007h> Anyone with a router (ralink/broadcom) chipset with wps enabled might want to turn wps off pdq! [02:39] <zerowaitstate> gr33n7007h: i always turn WPS off [02:39] <hollowsoul> can some one help me beable to play a dvd i bought on ubuntu [02:40] <zerowaitstate> hollowsoul: dvd's are a can of drm worms [02:40] <OerHeks> hollowsoul, did you look at the dvd wiki, for css encryption ? [02:40] <OerHeks> !dvd [02:40] <hollowsoul> no i didn't know where to look [02:40] <[Saint]> and now you do. [02:41] <OerHeks> install restricted extra's, sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 && sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh ( no need to reboot AFAIK ) [02:41] <OerHeks> and restart your mediaplayer [02:49] <nullfaith> o/ [02:49] <zerowaitstate> o7 [02:50] <nullfaith> Just started using ubuntu mate on my new laptop, so i think I am allowed to hang out in here now. XD [02:51] <hollowsoul> i am having issues with editing my sources.list file [02:52] <nullfaith> What is the issue hollowsoul ? [02:52] <hollowsoul> i get the error 6960 [02:53] <daftykins> ¬_¬ [02:53] <hollowsoul> i must be adding the lines in wrong or some thing [02:53] <daftykins> so show what you're doing via http://paste.ubuntu.com [02:53] <daftykins> we can't look over your shoulder [02:53] <hollowsoul> are they sopose to be at the end [02:54] <hollowsoul> or beginning [02:54] <[Saint]> Is this still the DVD thing? [02:54] <[Saint]> If so, you've no need to be touching sources.list at all. [02:56] <[Saint]> If not, you're going to have to tell someone what it is you're actually doing, because being as vague as you are makes it really hard to help at all. [02:56] <hollowsoul> just trying to get a dvd to play on my ubuntu [02:57] <hollowsoul> i would like to just watch a movie [02:57] <[Saint]> Then follow the instruction you were given. [02:57] <[Saint]> At no pint did anyone instuct you to piss around with sources.list. [02:57] <daftykins> [Saint]: drop the attitude [02:58] <Ekips> Install vlc, watch DVD, the end? [02:58] <hollowsoul> thats what the vlan thing told me to do [02:58] <fallen_> fuck that, hack then talk lol [02:59] <[Saint]> daftykins: stop assuming there is one - I may be blunt, but I'm blunt because it leads to less confusion in the long run. [03:00] <fallen_> by the way when you edit the sources.lst file DO NOT delete the # hyphen's [03:00] <daftykins> [Saint]: whatever you think you're being, i'm telling you you're not coming across well in a volunteer help channel. so if you can't put in the effort to be nice, leave. [03:00] <[Saint]> I can either be nice, or I can get shit done. [03:00] <[Saint]> When a user clearly isn;t listening, being nice already failed. [03:01] <daftykins> [Saint]: i don't see you getting anything done, also don't use that language here please. [03:02] <daftykins> either follow the rules or hop it :) [03:02] <hollowsoul> i am sorry i don't intend to be mean [03:02] <hollowsoul> i would much rather be nice [03:02] <hollowsoul> i don't do well is social interaction [03:03] <[Saint]> Apparently White Knight over there read tone into my reply that simply wasn't there, but, hey - it happens. [03:03] <OerHeks> hollowsoul, what "vlan thing told me to do" ? i read nowhere about editting sources: [03:03] <[Saint]> I've been trying to tell you that you've already been told exactly what you have to do. [03:03] <[Saint]> And there's even a link been provided. [03:03] <[Saint]> install one package, run one script. [03:03] <OerHeks> and btw, not all dvd's will work on linux. [03:04] <OerHeks> try a 2nd dvd to test [03:04] <hollowsoul> o ok [03:04] <[Saint]> I'm not even sure the dvdread package has been installed yet. [03:04] <[Saint]> I'm gonna guess no. [03:05] <OerHeks> [Saint], yeah, i typed it all out, what could be not clear [03:05] <[Saint]> and I'm the bad guy for being blunt about it. [03:05] <[Saint]> such is life. [03:05] <[Saint]> Not here to hold hands and sing songs. [03:05] <hollowsoul> i was on a website that told me to do that [03:05] <hollowsoul> to get some thing for vlan [03:06] <[Saint]> yeah, well, that's nice - but OerHeks told you exactly what to do. [03:06] <[Saint]> and you've ignored him and now are wasting time. [03:06] <hollowsoul> ok i will try a different dvd [03:06] <[Saint]> "sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 && sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh" [03:06] <[Saint]> do it. [03:06] <[Saint]> reboot the media player, and try a DVD. [03:08] <[Saint]> You can try as many DVDs as you want but it won't work at all until you enter the command given above from the link given earlier. [03:08] <linuxuz3r> linux is so nice [03:09] <hollowsoul> thanks much help [03:09] <hollowsoul> it works [03:09] <OerHeks> hollowsoul, have fun [03:09] <hollowsoul> sorry i was being a pain [03:09] <hollowsoul> :( [03:13] <[Saint]> Now this is the old channel I remember...being berated by people with foul mouths over PM. [03:13] <[Saint]> Things haven't changed. [03:14] <daftykins> !ot | [Saint] [03:15] <[Saint]> Now guess who it was. [03:16] <redpanda> Pando: O.o [03:16] <di_giorgio> Mp3player [1. 31.12] CeBoLiNhA 2014 [03:17] <fallen_> whois Saint [03:18] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all [03:18] <daftykins> o/ [03:19] <daftykins> wb lotuspsychje [03:19] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: hello mate [03:19] <OerHeks> :-) [03:19] <fallen_> lotus now there's a name I haven't heard in a while [03:19] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks, daftykins wanna join #ubuntu-discuss ? [03:20] <daftykins> mmm couldn't hurt [03:25] <Osmodivs> Hello. I cant caccess my other IDE HDDs, I am in a ATA 2.5" with a 32bit system, I need to access my other 64bit Ubuntu-Gnome, but when it boots they are not reckognized in the BIOS, and in GRUB I can see something like this: Ubuntu, with Linux 3.13.0-44 generic --class ubuntu --class os 'gnu [03:25] <rockstar_> any suggestion to mount sdcard in Ubuntu LTS? [03:25] <rockstar_> echo 1 | sudo tee /sys/bus/pci/rescan didn't work [03:26] <redpanda> another Pando :) [03:28] <hkrrsx> Osmodivs: Check the IDE cable connection, re-seat and try again. If the BIOS isn't recognizing the drive, the operating system won't either. [03:29] <Osmodivs> And when I select one of them i get this: error: no such device: (010101010 numbers and numbers 010101010101) error: hd1 cannot get C/H/S/ values error: you need to load the kernel first [03:29] <zykotick9> hkrrsx: +1 [03:32] <Osmodivs> hkrrsx, I did that. I have to mention that I used boot fixer or grub fixer, so I could load Windows 8.1 on dual boot, wich by the way, it did not worked [03:33] <bondrs> hi there [03:34] <hkrrsx> Osmodivs: What's the output of "fdisk -l"? 10 out of 10 says the drive won't be there if the BIOS is still not recognizing it .... meaning this ss a hardware problem [03:35] <hkrrsx> Osmodivs: If the BIOS still isn't recognizing the drive, try changing the IDE cable [03:41] <zerowaitstate> this sounds like a UEFI/locked boot loader thing [03:41] <OerHeks> UEFI and IDE? not sure that exists [03:44] <zerowaitstate> I haven't seen an IDE box in several years [03:44] <zerowaitstate> or PATA anyway [03:47] <iampoz> hi everyone. I am having an issue with my computer that I am unsure about [03:48] <iampoz> it does not respond during boot and hangs up some place [03:48] <hkrrsx> iampoz: What's on the screen when it hangs? [03:48] <iampoz> the only thing I have been able to pull out of it is this line: starting SMB/CIFS and active directory server [fail] [03:49] <iampoz> ubuntu boot screen [03:49] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Can you boot into Recovery Mode? [03:49] <iampoz> unless I do the recovery option in grub, then i see all the lines of services starting and such. the one above is the only one that fails [03:49] <iampoz> after a few more lines, it just.. stops [03:50] <iampoz> I am wondering if there are any other recovery options... If i put ubuntu 14.04 onto a stick, is there a repair option? [03:51] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Can you get to a command prompt in Recovery Mode ? [03:52] <iampoz> no, i dont think so. when it hangs, I can do ctrl alt F2-F8 but it just yields a small flashing courser in the top left. it does not let me do anything. F1 takes me back to the screen with all the services starting up [03:54] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Do you have this machine with you now within arm's reach ? [03:54] <hkrrsx> If so, please try to get into Recovery Mode and get to a terminal prompt [03:54] <[Saint]> you could boot from a live distro and then mount the disk in the host and pivot into it. [03:54] <iampoz> well it is just in the other room, but yeah kinda [03:55] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Go for it. Let us know what happens. [03:55] <iampoz> I tryed to get into recovery mode already... did not work. maybe you are meaning something else? [03:55] <iampoz> [Saint] what do you mean "pivot into it" [03:56] <[Saint]> pivot_root [03:57] <delinquentme> I want to give my user "postgres" access to /mnt [03:57] <delinquentme> should I NOT chown this to postgres? [03:57] <hkrrsx> iampoz: I'm trying to get you to the point where you can run this command " sudo sysv-rc-conf samba off ". This should get the machine to finish booting b/c SMB/CIFS is failing. [03:58] <hkrrsx> iampoz: You should be able to boot into single user mode with these instructions: http://askubuntu.com/questions/132965/how-do-i-boot-into-single-user-mode-from-grub [04:00] <iampoz> awesome, I will try that. I will report back here as soon as possible [04:00] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Best of luck. [04:21] <RichardBronosky> Using the default terminal... Is there a key combo to allow you to select text if you are running an app that recognizes and responds to mouse clicks? [04:22] <RichardBronosky> jpterm (jmespath-terminal) is an example of such an app. [04:23] <hkrrsx> RichardBronosky: Shift+Ctrl+C copies previously highlighted text in gnome-terminal [04:23] <[Saint]> shift+ctrl+c copy [04:23] <[Saint]> pretty sure the term even tells you that. [04:23] * [Saint] looks [04:23] <[Saint]> yep, yes it does. [04:23] <RichardBronosky> the problem is that you can't select text. [04:24] <hkrrsx> RichardBronosky: You can use the mouse to highlight text as per usual [04:24] <RichardBronosky> not in an urwid based app. http://excess.org/urwid/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions [04:25] <zykotick9> RichardBronosky: tmux, as an example, has shift+mouse for highlighting, i've never heard of jmespath-terminal so have no idea about it... [04:25] <hkrrsx> RichardBronosky: So you want to use VIM-style keys to highlight text and then SHIFT+CTRL+C to copy ? [04:26] <RichardBronosky> What it says about shift-click in that FAQ does not always work depending on how the app was coded. [04:26] <[Saint]> ctrl+u? [04:26] <[Saint]> and it's friend, ctrl+y [04:27] <[Saint]> oh, hmmm. no, as assumedly you want to paste outside the term. [04:28] <RichardBronosky> Ugh. I'm on a Mac. I wish I had an Ubuntu machine around. (I'm writing documentation and want to explain how to do this.) [04:28] <ShrewdSpirit> hello. I've installed Elementary OS which is Ubuntu based. when I try install AMD proprietary drivers from additional drivers, it revert's back to open source drivers [04:28] <ShrewdSpirit> sorry English isn't my native language [04:28] <[Saint]> Its a bit of a hack but you could do "bind '"\C-p": "\C-e\C-u xsel <<"EOF"\n\C-y\nEOF\n\C-y"'" [04:28] <OerHeks> !elementary [04:28] <[Saint]> then "copy" with ctrl+p [04:29] <OerHeks> elementary has its own issues ShrewdSpirit [04:29] <[Saint]> and "paste" with "xsel" [04:29] <ShrewdSpirit> OerHeks: thank you. I didn't know they have a channel [04:29] <[Saint]> But that'll only select the entire line. [04:30] <SchrodingersScat> screen has a copy mode, iirc it's ctrl-a-esc [04:32] <RichardBronosky> yeah, that would be a work around. but I don't want to have to make the instructions for this app have to tell people to run GNU screen or modify their bindings. [04:32] <RichardBronosky> in iterm on the mac its just "Opt+click/drag" to select without registering a click. [04:33] <RichardBronosky> I know this is weird because MOST terminal applications are not mouse aware. This one is. [04:33] * hkrrsx is not familiar with substituting a keyboard key for left mouse click [04:34] <RichardBronosky> the goal is not to use the keyboard instead of the mouse. [04:34] <RichardBronosky> it is to instruct the terminal to not pass mouse events to the running app which is listening for mouse events. [04:36] <RichardBronosky> I think some ncurses apps allow you to click the "buttons" using your mouse. which is like this app. [04:36] <hkrrsx> So you want to "click" without the app recognizing that a click took place? Kinda like click cloak or something? [04:37] <RichardBronosky> but if someone wants to copy the text on the button without clicking it, you have to stop the terminal from passing the event. [04:37] <hkrrsx> Sorry, this sounds beyond the scope of this support channel .... [04:38] <hkrrsx> I'm not familiar with anything that does what you're asking [04:38] <RichardBronosky> it very well may be a shift-click. would make sense since adding shift to ctrl-c will copy and adding shift to ctrl-v will paste. [04:39] <RichardBronosky> I don't need a tool that does this. I'm nearly positive that the terminal should be able to do this out of the box. It's just really hard to google for. [04:42] <Codenomics> I just installed ubuntu on my machine and it is failing installing GRUB and not sure what I should do at this point [04:43] <Codenomics> nevermind... I just accidentally hit the "finish the install" option lol [04:44] <Codenomics> ok, so new issue then.. lol I have a fresh ubuntu install on my computer with no GRUb. [04:45] <SchrodingersScat> !bootrepair | Codenomics ?? [04:46] <Codenomics> oh score. Thanks SchrodingersScat I was just going to load a liveCD and install grub that way [04:46] <OerHeks> Codenomics, on what machine? UEFI bios ? [04:46] <RichardBronosky> Thanks for the effort. I'm going to download http://virtualboxes.org/images/ubuntu/ and try it myself. [04:47] <Codenomics> OerHeks: no clue actually... just some random dell [04:47] <hkrrsx> RichardBronosky: Best of luck [04:47] <Codenomics> OerHeks: new-=ish inspiron [04:51] <thorie> anyone know why my keyboard doesn't work completely in ubuntu? i have a macbook pro running 14.04 and many keys don't work such as "o", "t", "i", "u", "y" ... but other keys work fine. if i reboot into Mac OS X of course all keys work. any ideas? [04:52] <hkrrsx> thorie: Check your keyboard layout ? [04:53] <cfhowlett> thorie, suspect your keyboard settings are incorrect [04:57] <thorie> thanks, trying to change it... [05:01] <Codenomics> stupid windows crashing [05:06] <Codenomics> so I was just going to install GRUB from a livecd which is no big deal normally... but I have this setup with a software RAID and in the livecd it is showing all of the drives... not sure where I need to be installing this to [05:07] <hkrrsx> Codenomics: Wouldn't the software RAID be md0 ? [05:07] <zerowaitstate> Codenomics: software raid means the OS is doing the RAID [05:08] <Codenomics> hkrrsx: oh yeah... herp.. Thanks [05:08] <Codenomics> zerowaitstate: I know [05:09] <hkrrsx> Word. [05:09] <Codenomics> hkrrsx: yeah... that wont work if it is not booted into the OS lol [05:11] <hkrrsx> Codenomics: I'm clearly missing something .... why are you installing GRUB on a system that you're already booted into? [05:11] <hkrrsx> Are you using LILO or something? [05:11] <Codenomics> I am not booted into it [05:11] <wbill> anyone have a easy solution for being able to save multiple terminal tabs (or just have them op0en when I open terminal) i Ubuntu? [05:12] <j_> hello, is there any way to move the panel in mint to the right or left? [05:12] <hkrrsx> Eff. Reading comprehension was my weak spot in grade school. [05:12] <cfhowlett> !mint | j_, ask mint. not supported here. [05:12] <hkrrsx> Codenomics: Check this out -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing [05:13] <j_> oh i see thanks [05:13] <hkrrsx> If you search that page for "mdadm", it should hopefully give you what you're looking for [05:13] <wbill> besdies install byobu or similar? [05:14] <Codenomics> yeah someone mentioned that to me looking into that right now [05:18] <hollowsoul> can some one help me with getting wow to work on ubuntu [05:18] <hollowsoul> i am running it with wine [05:18] <hkrrsx> wbill: This was the only thing I found in a search for your issue -- http://askubuntu.com/questions/310705/some-fast-way-to-save-and-restore-tabs-of-terminal#310750 [05:19] <cfhowlett> hollowsoul, http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrTccE5ACpVMd0ATUknnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByb3B2a242BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1428844729/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fhelp.ubuntu.com%2fcommunity%2fWorldofWarcraft/RK=0/RS=M7BuVwPhzx7SK7ILynje2J4Qdow- [05:21] <iampoz> hkrrsx, that did not work [05:22] <hkrrsx> iampoz: So you turned off samba, rebooted your machine and it still failed? [05:23] <iampoz> i set it to single and it still hung up. but I saw three more failed lines. I tryed to take a video of it but it is so fast... I am putting the video on my computer now and try to make out the text [05:24] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Do me a favor, do those steps all over again but with 1 difference [05:24] <hkrrsx> At the end where you typed "single", type in " init=/bin/bash " [05:24] <hkrrsx> Then boot and you should get to a command prompt before any services start [05:24] <iampoz> okay, do i still also put 'single'? [05:25] <hkrrsx> No, replace single with init=/bin/bash [05:25] <hkrrsx> Afterwards, turn off Samba and reboot normally [05:25] <iampoz> okay [05:28] <wbill> ok ty [05:28] <wbill> thanks hkrrsx [05:28] <hkrrsx> wbill: You're welcome [05:29] <iampoz> hkrrsx, okay i got to a command line, root@(none):/# with a flashing cursor, but I can not type any text... my keyboard is lit up so it appears to be working... but nothing shows up when I type [05:30] <hkrrsx> Unplug and replug the keyboard? [05:30] <iampoz> okay [05:32] <iampoz> still nothing. there are two lines above the command line... "bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate loctl for device" && "bash: no job control in this shell" [05:33] <hkrrsx> Can you CTRL+ALT+DEL to reboot the machine gracefully? Even though nothing's being outputted to the screen [05:33] <hollowsoul> how do i reinstall msfonts [05:34] <iampoz> no, no effect [05:34] <iampoz> I am uploading a picture with the failed lines during the "single" attempt [05:35] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Great, afterwards, please power down the Ubuntu machine by holding the power button down until the machine turns off [05:35] <ilken> ctrl+alt+F1 [05:35] <hkrrsx> Then bring it back up normally [05:35] <iampoz> http://picbin.org/src/943 [05:36] <hkrrsx> hollowsoul: Try " sudo apt-get install --reinstall msttcorefonts " [05:36] <hkrrsx> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-install-microsoft-core-fonts-in-ubuntu-linux/ [05:37] <OerHeks> hollowsoul, msfonts are part of restricted extras [05:37] <hollowsoul> o ok [05:37] <hkrrsx> iampoz: That picture continues the boot process even though a couple of things fail [05:39] <iampoz> hkrrsx, that is true. but then it just stops... I will grab a photo of it when it stops on my next attempt [05:39] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Please get a clear photo .... the 1st one is pretty difficult to ready [05:39] <hkrrsx> read* [05:40] <iampoz> hkrrsx, what am I supposed to do when I bring it back on normally? [05:40] <hkrrsx> Well, you said it was freezing at a certain point and that you'd get a picture of it .... I'll wait for that [05:41] <hkrrsx> iampoz: We only really need the last dozen lines or so [05:41] <iampoz> I know, i have a recoding of it, I skipped frame by frame until I for a clean shot of the failed lines. it goes to fast to get a clean shot of that screen, but there are a few lines on the last one... I will get a picture of that right now. [05:41] <iampoz> okay [05:41] <q_zone> can someone help me with a permission issue? [05:41] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Thanks [05:41] <dreamon> Using Ubuntu 14.04 and encfs crypted /home partition and a normal / partition on SSD. if I install 14.04 from new on SSD, how can I do so /home is mounted automatic like before? I dont want to format /home just mounted again like before [05:42] <hkrrsx> !ask | q_zone [05:43] <q_zone> i can't view pictures in my browser while testing a project.What is the permission missing? [05:43] <malkauns> !patience [05:43] <hkrrsx> q_zone: Are these pictures on your local computer or on a website somewhere? [05:44] <q_zone> yeah,in my local computer [05:44] <iampoz> hkrrsx, here it is: http://picbin.org/src/944 [05:44] <hkrrsx> Try " file:///path/to/picture " .... note, there are 3 forward slashes in file:/// [05:45] <hkrrsx> q_zone: That's just to test if the picture will come up alone outside of your website coding [05:45] <OerHeks> q_zone, maybe you need some codecs and webstuff, did you install restricted extras ? [05:45] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Excellent picture, thank you [05:45] <hkrrsx> iampoz: What happens if you boot your computer with the network cables unplugged? [05:47] <q_zone> hkrrsx: I get the following message ,when i tested the image :https://dpaste.de/Mowv [05:48] <hkrrsx> q_zone: chmod 755 /shopping_cart/images/*.jpg [05:49] <hkrrsx> q_zone: You might want to repeat that command for *.png as well, if you have those types of images in that folder [05:50] <q_zone> hkrrsx: yeah,it worked ...thanks [05:50] <hkrrsx> q_zone: You're welcome [05:52] <cool_boy> hi [05:52] <cool_boy> how to connect ipv6 through ssh [05:52] <cool_boy> ? [05:52] <hkrrsx> cool_boy: The same way you'd connect via ipv4 only with an ipv6 address [05:53] <hkrrsx> cool_boy: Does the SSH server have an IPv6 address ? [05:55] <cool_boy> hkrrsx: I am not getting how to coneect with this server, all I can see is only this screen http://postimg.org/image/efum9a42f/ [05:55] <iampoz> hkrrsx, with out the network connected, it stops at the third last line, the one about plymouth and ends in respawning. [05:56] <iampoz> also a few more lines appeared on the screen when I went to go reboot without network. I am putting those on picbin now [05:56] <cool_boy> hkrrsx: thanks, I found way ?) [05:58] <hkrrsx> cool_boy: Excellent, I was about to give you this YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJghYtfnkEc [05:58] <omich> how I can recovery deleted ntfs partition? testdisk didn't help [05:58] <iampoz> hkrrsx: http://picbin.org/src/945 - this is after it was left for about 5 mins or so [05:58] <cool_boy> :) [05:58] <cool_boy> thanks [05:59] <iampoz> hkrrsx, this is without network: http://picbin.org/src/946 [05:59] <cool_boy> htop is not standard command of ubuntu [05:59] <cool_boy> ? [05:59] <scrapcode> I have a folder on my desktop that is empty, properties says "Free Space: 2.5GB of 85.8GB (97% used) [05:59] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Checking [05:59] <NegativeFlare> cool_boy: no, but I wish it was xD [05:59] <hkrrsx> cool_boy: No, htop has to be installed after-the-fact [06:00] <cool_boy> NegativeFlare: now I am also in wish list :) [06:00] <NegativeFlare> heh [06:01] <lennonfan> :) [06:02] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Have a look at this thread, #8 is the hopeful solution [06:02] <hkrrsx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218100&p=13015297#post13015297 [06:03] <iampoz> haha I was just reading that. [06:03] <hkrrsx> Wait .... you can't type in single user mode, can you? [06:03] <omich> hey [06:03] <goeranh> hi [06:04] <hkrrsx> omich: goeranh: Welcome [06:04] <goeranh> ty [06:04] <nhat> hi [06:04] <omich> how I can recovery deleted ntfs partition? testdisk didn't help [06:04] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Perhaps if you boot from a LiveCD, mount your hard drive and then made the modifications that way [06:04] <iampoz> no, I can not type in any mode so far [06:05] <iampoz> ahh, that is a good idea [06:05] <cool_boy> also can`t we get htop from apt-get? I am trying sudo apt-get install htop but I get "E: Unable to locate package htop" [06:05] <hkrrsx> iampoz: Give it a shot and see what happens [06:05] <hkrrsx> iampoz: I hope something works for you soon b/c I'm running out of options [06:05] <goeranh> use gparted [06:06] <iampoz> there are a number of things I can try in that thread [06:07] <goeranh> yes [06:07] <hkrrsx> Sorry, I logged myself out w/ a keyboard shortcut [06:07] <nhat> exit [06:12] <[Saint]> cool_boy: it *is* available. [06:12] <iampoz> now I just have to remember how to make a ubuntu stick... but it is 12 so I have to go to bed [06:13] <iampoz> hkrrsx, do you work for canonical? [06:13] <hkrrsx> iampoz: I do not [06:13] <[Saint]> cool_boy: see? http://pastebin.com/SwCkvHPR [06:13] <hkrrsx> I work for a web hosting company in my hometown [06:13] <[Saint]> Ah crap, I snipped off the install line. [06:14] <[Saint]> either way, htop is definitely an installable package in a default install. [06:14] <iampoz> in that case, I appreciate your assistance even more so [06:14] <[Saint]> just ask apt-cache about it. [06:14] <[Saint]> "apt-cacahe search htop" [06:14] <hkrrsx> iampoz: I hope it goes well for you [06:15] <iampoz> thanks a lot! hopefully I figure it out tomorrow. it will take a few days to get my machine back to how I like it... [06:15] <iampoz> if I have to reformat it, i mean... [06:15] <iampoz> bye! [06:15] <hkrrsx> cool_boy: It's in the Universe repository but here's the packages.ubuntu.com URL [06:15] <hkrrsx> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=htop&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all [06:15] <[Saint]> Next time: backups. [06:15] <cool_boy> [Saint]: thanks, after upgrade its working now [06:16] <cool_boy> thanks hkrrsx , got it working [06:16] * hollowsoul crying right now [06:16] <hkrrsx> Marvelous [06:17] <hollowsoul> how do i reinstall ubuntu [06:17] <hollowsoul> i need a fresh copy [06:17] <[Saint]> Samw way you instaleld it the first time. [06:18] <iampoz> haha, yes. I should have made a back up. I was lazy. I knew as I was messing around with it today: "you should clone your system before you do this..." but then I was like "nah, it will be fine... I am sure of it..." I am not sure why, it is never fine. I have a nice clonezilla stick and enough space on one of the hard drives, would have been a snap and only taken an hour. damn. [06:18] <[Saint]> jesus, can't type. [06:18] <[Saint]> *same way you installed it the first time [06:18] <hkrrsx> iampoz: "There are 2 types of people: Those who make backups and those who have never re-installed their system." - Unknown [06:18] <hkrrsx> :) [06:19] <[Saint]> I...what? [06:19] <iampoz> I am the back up guy 95% of the time... it is that 5% that gets me every time. [06:28] <hkrrsx> I'm done for tonight [06:28] <hkrrsx> Night [06:30] <shyni> hello [06:30] <shyni> earlier I reinstalled my Ubuntu distro because it couldn't detect any USB devices [06:30] <shyni> things were working again [06:30] <shyni> but now I have the same problem all over again after updating [06:31] <shyni> so I'm assuming something went wrong with the update [06:31] <shyni> I think I started having this problem after updating last night [06:32] <shyni> was there anything potentially breaking in the recent updates? [06:33] <varaindemian> is there any other way I can enable hardware acceleration without installing proprietary drivers? [06:34] <varaindemian> I have ATI Radeon 8600m series [06:34] <varaindemian> On 14.10 I have hardware acc by default but this is not case of 14.04.2 [06:35] <varaindemian> I have some visual glitches when I move windows and when I scroll [06:45] <shyni> http://pastebin.com/zeepayd5 okay, looking at the dmesg output, this thing /is/ detecting the devices [06:45] <shyni> but not doing anything with them [06:53] <shyni> uh [06:53] <shyni> is anyone here? [06:53] <Elench> I'm here, though I don't know if I'm likely to be able to help [06:55] <shyni> well, my computer can't detect any usb devices [06:55] <shyni> none of them appear in lsusb [06:55] <shyni> but dmesg turns up at least one [06:56] <shyni> this is definitely a software thing [06:56] <shyni> since it can detect devices when I booted from a liveusb [06:56] <shyni> and things worked after I reinstalled Ubuntu [06:56] <shyni> but then it stopped working after I updated [06:56] <aeon-ltd> guessing here, but maybe some kind of security measure? [06:57] <shyni> what kind would disable all usb devices? [06:57] <aeon-ltd> no idea [06:57] <aeon-ltd> do keyboard and mouse work? [06:58] <shyni> built-in keyboard and trackpad work [06:58] <shyni> usb mouse lights up [06:58] <shyni> but does nothing [07:00] <shyni> http://pastebin.com/zeepayd5 here's the dmesg log [07:01] <shyni> "[ 1.760250] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1, SerialNumber=0 [07:01] <shyni> [ 1.760253] usb 2-1: Product: USB OPTICAL MOUSE" [07:01] <shyni> the mouse does not show up in lsusb [07:06] <brunch875> Good morning in the morning! [07:08] <mehdi> hey guys, well adobe embargoed my country and i cant install flash player but i managed to get libflashplayer.so, where should i put this file in order to be used system-wide [07:08] <mehdi> i dont want it to be available on firefox only [07:08] <shyni> http://askubuntu.com/questions/608289/usb-devices-not-detected I asked on askubuntu [07:38] <fendell> hello, is there a problem with the se.archive.ubuntu.com (130.239.18.173) apt-get update stops there for me atm [07:40] <gunnar> fendell: Have you tried pingin that ip address [07:41] <fendell> gunnar, yes no response just have to wait until its up agian? [07:42] <gunnar> Yeah, since your internet connection is up and running it just means that server is down. Just use another mirror. [07:43] <gunnar> fendell: I raan into the same situation with a local mirror for me. These kind of mirror don't sem to have a long life cycle. :) [07:44] <fendell> gunnar, well this is my first time something like this has happened. But easy fix, thanks gunnar [07:44] <gunnar> fendel: No worries, stay strong! :P [07:45] <gunnar> fendell: No worries, stay strong! :P [07:47] <geirha> fendell: You could try #ubuntu-se maybe someone knows someone who knows someone who maintains the mirror :) [07:47] <geirha> If you are impatient, you can switch to the main archive though [07:48] <gunnar> Seems like he alreadyd did that, so problem solved as far as he's concerned. Right? [07:54] <Gregor3000> hello. i have a porblme. the fan on the GPU is not spinning when i turn on the PC. yesterday i opened it to see why it's so quiet and why some games are freezing. i saw the fan was still. when iexited the game (minecraft) the fan started spinning. i think it hsoul dbe cooling off the cvard form the start as it is otherwise getting very hot. [07:54] <Gregor3000> even the fan itself is hot [07:54] <Gregor3000> is theer somethign i missed? opensource radeon drivers [07:54] <Gregor3000> very old card [07:56] <OerHeks> Gregor3000, first check your Bios, for fan settings [07:57] <OerHeks> without proper drivers, your fans should run 100% [07:57] <OerHeks> !lmsensors [07:58] <gunnar> Gregor3000: Not sure if it's related, but I have the same problem on my box using several different cards. I just slapped an old geforce 2 or something in there that only has a heatsync. [07:58] <francesco_> cenerentola [07:58] <MichaelHabib> Hi. is this a good place to get info on how to setup a basic home DNS server (Webmin + Bind) ? [07:59] <MichaelHabib> I have ubuntu server + apache setup ready which I can access from IP adress [07:59] <gunnar> MichaelHabib: Read the ubuntu server guide. It pretty much covers what you're trying to do. [08:00] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: ty, will look into it [08:01] <gunnar> No prob [08:02] <vagelis> Good morning everyone. [08:02] <maysara> Hi, I installed linux kernel 3.16. Is it okay to remove 3.13 packages and keep linux-*-lts-utopic packages? I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS [08:04] <vagelis> I have some graphic problems with my new laptop. I installed ubuntu 14.04 LTS. My laptop has Intel hd graphics and AMD radeon card. The problem is that sometimes I see strange things in windows or in the browser etc its like when a graphics cards is alsmost dying and I beleive it has to do something with drivers. Also I do not see some characters, for exampe in titles of windows. [08:04] <gunnar> maysara: If you booted up on the new kernel I don't see any reason why not. But don't hold me to that. [08:05] <vagelis> For example now when i type here a message Instead of vagelis I see va elis [08:05] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: i have another question, as this is my 1st time doing this & this is a home setup. [08:05] <MichaelHabib> Will It be possible to point my computer to the DNS (Its a VM) so I can enter a domain name on my PC and it get resolved by this DNS server and look for the "fake" domain names I setup ? [08:05] <OerHeks> maysara, you cannot delete current and precious kernel ( for recovery mode), all other kernels no problem [08:05] <OerHeks> *previous [08:06] <gunnar> MichaelHabib: Yes, you can just make a small domain for your group of PC's. [08:06] <maysara> OerHeks: so both 3.13 and 3.16 kernels have to be installed? [08:07] <gunnar> MichaelHabib: I've never tried it though and it will only work on your local lan. Not from the wan. [08:07] <OerHeks> maysara, if 3.13 is you previous kernel, yes [08:07] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: thats all I need, lan access so I can also setup virtual hosts and test some software. [08:07] <francesco__> cenerentola [08:08] <francesco__> download cenerentola [08:09] <gunnar> MichaelHabib: The server guide addresses how to set up a domain, however I don't know how the VM interacts with your OS. So you might have to bridge the virtual adapter of the VM to the physical NIC. [08:09] <OerHeks> francesco__, what is "cenerentola" ? url ? [08:09] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: its already bridged :) [08:10] <Gregor3000> OerHeks: i rescanned with sensors. lets see if it will work now or not. motherboard is strange it seems. i wanted to install new GPU and couldn't get any to run. AMD didn't run at all (new ones dont' run on PCIe1.1), nvidia ran opensource only with poor performance while their drivers were rubish (no screen). already returned btoh card and now i am back to the old ATI one :-( [08:11] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: the VM has its own IP 192.168.0.200 & I can access apache using this IP, but cant seem to find the correct way to setup DNS. I have changed the Primary DNS on my PC to that of the DNS server but I think something wron with my DNS config as the domain is not getting resolved [08:11] <Gregor3000> nvidia support didnt' have a clue what is wrong [08:13] <gunnar> MichaelHabib: You're going to have to tell your DNS server which domain names get translated into what. If it doesn't have that info it naturally wont be doing anything. Again the ubuntu server guide can help. Just check out the part about making a caching DNS server. [08:14] <OerHeks> Gregor3000, so you have a new pcix card in a 1.1 slot? that could be your issue, i have no solution for that [08:14] <varaindemian> How can I edit swappiness [08:15] <rexuss> varaindemian: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness [08:16] <deepu-vc> hi need help in adding kali linux tools to ubuntu please help [08:17] <Gregor3000> OerHeks: nope. none of them worked. so i am back to old ATI radeon 9600 XT AGP card that worked with minecraft at least. if not much else... [08:18] <rexuss> deepu-vc: have you tried this: http://malwaretips.com/threads/how-to-add-kali-linux-repositories-in-ubuntu.31312/ [08:20] <deepu-vc> rexuss i will try it and get back [08:20] <OerHeks> !kali | deepu-vc [08:20] <deepu-vc> do any one knows which is the best hacking channel in irc [08:21] <OerHeks> deepu-vc, we dont support hacking. [08:21] <maysara> OerHeks, gunnar: Thank you :) [08:22] <OerHeks> maysara, have fun :-) [08:22] <rexuss> deepu-vc: more importantly, google it first. [08:23] <OerHeks> !rootirc | katherine [08:24] <katherine> hehe, thanks for the heads up OerHeks, but I am not really running as root :) [08:25] <OerHeks> oke, good [08:27] <nalum> Hello all, I'm trying to setup the Nvidia NVS 510, but when I plug my monitor into it the monitor says there is no signal. The card is picked up by the Nvidia X Server Settings. [08:28] <gunnar> nalum: Are you sure your X server is sending data to the correct display port? NVS 510 is a multi monitor card right? [08:29] <gunnar> nalum: Have you tried connecting your vga cable to another port on the card? [08:29] <nalum> it is yes, I've tried the monitor in all ports [08:30] <gunnar> nalum: Does your motherboard have an internal graphics card? If so have you disabled it via your bios? [08:30] <nalum> The monitor works fine with my GTX 580 and I've verified that the convertor from DVI to display port works [08:31] <nalum> The mother board is the rampage v extreme, it doesn't have a display port on it so I assumed it doesn't have built in graphics [08:31] <gunnar> nalum: Ok [08:31] <nalum> I can't see anything in the bios about displays either [08:32] <OerHeks> nalum, Nvidia NVS 510, is supported by 346.59 or higher [08:33] <OerHeks> i think you need the xorg edgers ppa for that ? [08:33] <gunnar> nalum: Am i correct in assuming that you haven't made any changes to your xorg config between switching graphics cards? [08:33] <nalum> gunnar: yes, I haven't made any changes to it. [08:34] <gunnar> nalum: I'm no expert but I think that could be your problem. Could you try running nvidia-xconfig as root with the NVS 510 inserted? [08:34] <nalum> OerHeks: I have 304.125 installed. What is that ppa? [08:35] <nalum> gunnar: I'll try that now [08:35] <gunnar> nalum: OerHeks is right too, it could be that the driver version your running doesn't support the NVS 510. [08:37] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [08:46] <francesco_> XChat: /load .xchat2/budus.so [08:46] <francesco_> /load .xchat2/budus.so [08:48] <francesco_> cenerentola [08:48] <coder_> #wget [08:48] <OerHeks> !it | francesco_ [08:49] <francesco_> ATTENZIONE: Non e' stata intercettata la versione originale di lynx. [08:49] <francesco_> Questo script e' in grado di funzionare sono con lynx e non links2. [08:49] <nalum> gunnar, OerHeks: that hasn't worked, is there anything else I can look into on it? [08:50] <gunnar> nalum: Did you try download and building that ppa Orehes was talking about? [08:50] <gunnar> OerHeks* [08:50] <nalum> I used the additional drivers app to install it [08:51] <OerHeks> nalum, that ppa gives the latest nvidia driver ( that will be included in vivid 15.04) [08:51] <OerHeks> and then you find it in the same additional drivers tab [08:51] <nalum> I have it installed [08:51] <nalum> But the monitor is still not getting a signal [08:52] <gunnar> and selected as the currently used drive in the additional drivers program? [08:52] <gunnar> the ppa versionÐ [08:52] <nalum> yes [08:52] <nalum> I also ran the nvidia-xconfig command after the system rebooted [08:53] <francesco_> welcom [08:53] <gunnar> ahh this is getting clearer. So you already have a monitor connected to the NVS 510, and your trying to configur an additional one? [08:54] <francesco_> cenerentola [08:54] <lotuspsychje> !it | francesco_ [08:54] <TheUndertaker> DasEi:hi [08:55] <OerHeks> francesco_, please stop this one word lines, we don't know what you want, explain please [08:55] <nalum> No, I only have one monitor available to me at the moment. So I have the GTX 580 installed and running fine. I have the NSV 510 installed also in another PCIE slot and I switch the monitor out of the GTX 580 to the NVS 510 to test it. [08:56] <gunnar> so you have both cards physicly connected at the same time? [08:56] <nalum> yes [08:56] <nalum> and both are picked up by the settings app [08:56] <gunnar> Try taking the GTX 580 out of the box, and rebooting. [08:57] <nalum> Okay, will do that now [08:57] <nalum> Hope it works. I've done it many times already, but not with the latest drivers from that ppa obviouly [08:58] <gunnar> fingers crossed* [08:58] <lotuspsychje> k1l: morning mate [09:02] <gunnar> OerHeks: apparently cenerentola is cinderella in Italian? [09:03] <Nokaji> Hi - I'm unable to change the icon-'FONT' in file menu, seems stuck around 6~8px. I've tweaked all four font settings and rebooted more times than I have fingers [09:06] <OerHeks> gunnar, yes, i think so, but what would that be? [09:06] <nalum> Ah, think I might have found it. So the display I have on hand is VGA, the convertor is DVI to MiniDisplay so I have a VGA to DIV between them and that seems to be where the problem is. I have just tried that setup on my macbook pro, which is seeing the monitor but the monitor is not getting the display. [09:06] <lotuspsychje> !yay | nalum [09:07] <nalum> Now I just need to verify that with a DVI monitor [09:10] <gunnar> nalum: Not sure if helped you at all, but good you're making progress. [09:11] <gunnar> OerHeks: Maybe he's trying to start a bot or something... [09:14] <robynata> :-D [09:15] <yaclm> Hello! My laptop lags after startup and there is a huge delay for mouse and keyboard inputs. htop shows 50% cpu load (kernel) but doesn't show which command causes this huge load. any hints, keywords, solutions? [09:15] <mouseover> Googling suggest that getting wireless to work on Broadcom cards requires another package ( bcmwl-kernel-source ). But the page here seems dead? http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/bcmwl-kernel-source [09:18] <lotuspsychje> yaclm: ubuntu version? [09:18] <nalum> gunnar: ya got me thinking, that's help enough :D [09:19] <lotuspsychje> !info bcmwl-kernel-source | mouseover [09:24] <Exagone313> Hello, I try to install "awesome" on Ubuntu server. First, I installed the package awesome, and after reboot I had a tty. So I installed lightdm, reboot, and I see the GUI of Unity connection, and when I write my password, it says "failed to start session". Also, I've a resolution problem that I didn't have before installing lightdm, both on tty and lightdm interface. My screen is like... [09:24] <Exagone313> ..."zoomed". What can I do? Thanks for helping. [09:27] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: maybe the #awesome or #ubuntu-server guys might know? [09:28] <Exagone313> ok [09:28] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: your endgoal is a window manager on ubuntu server? [09:28] <Exagone313> yes [09:29] <guestzzzz123> hi guys, are some vi masters in here? [09:29] <Exagone313> it's not a server, i just don't want kde/gnome/unity/cinnamon/mate etc [09:29] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: maybe blackbox, or e17 are alternatives? [09:29] <guestzzzz123> don't get why 2dd == d2d [09:29] <Exagone313> but I want awesome [09:30] <lotuspsychje> okay [09:30] <Exagone313> I think I'm missing something, but idk what [09:30] <mouseover> How do I know which packages are found on the Ubuntu install CD? [09:31] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: maybe press F1 at boot to see booting process, perhaps it will show usefull errors? [09:31] <goeranh> read theyr website [09:31] <Exagone313> apparently, it does not need "lightdm" but "lightdm-gtk-greeter" [09:31] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: or syslog/dmesg logs [09:31] <Exagone313> the problem is my screen resolution, it is zoomed [09:31] <mouseover> goeranh: I was looking, but where? [09:31] <Exagone313> i can't see the topest/leftest [09:31] <goeranh> idk sorry [09:31] <goeranh> wait [09:31] <Exagone313> with vim I can add spaces, but with tail I cannot [09:32] <Exagone313> I won't use vim on syslog :) [09:32] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: maybe play with xrandr? [09:32] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | Exagone313 [09:33] <Exagone313> with xrandr, it says that no screen is available, sometyhing like that [09:33] <lotuspsychje> hmm [09:33] <Exagone313> in ctrl+alt+f7 there is lightdm started [09:33] <Exagone313> but I can't log in here, and I can't open a terminal [09:34] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: not sure exactly , never played with awesome before [09:34] <goeranh> mouseover: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ [09:35] <goeranh> goto standard packages [09:35] <Exagone313> the screen resolution problem appears also in unity and kde [09:35] <Exagone313> with an older installation, I had the same problem [09:36] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: wich ubuntu base/version are you using exactly? [09:36] <Exagone313> i try to remove lightdm and install lightdm-gtk-greeter [09:36] <Exagone313> ubuntu server 14.04.2 [09:36] <lotuspsychje> k [09:36] <Exagone313> I come back, since it is a dual boot [09:38] <yabbes> is there a way i can list subfolders with "ls" according to their relative size and make this recursive :) ? [09:38] <mouseover> goeranh: Sorry, I clicked on "utopic" but I dont see "standard" anywhere? [09:38] <goeranh> no there is an search panel [09:39] <mouseover> goeranh: and what search string do I use? [09:39] <goeranh> preinstalled or something like this [09:39] <goeranh> try out [09:40] <basichash> how can i put a .iso onto a usb? [09:40] <basichash> always forget the command [09:40] <lotuspsychje> basichash: an iso with what on it? [09:41] <goeranh> usb installer [09:41] <basichash> ubuntu-based distro [09:41] <goeranh> its preinstalled [09:41] <goeranh> goto dash and enter usb [09:41] <basichash> h [09:41] <basichash> ah* [09:41] <basichash> thanks [09:41] <goeranh> np [09:42] <Guest22031> i think you must format you usb device and copy your iso on usb and after reboot on usb device [09:42] <goeranh> thats automaticaly done [09:42] <Guest22031> i also think you must have only the iso on your usb [09:42] <goeranh> nope an iso is an archive and u need an programm to copy/install it [09:42] <goeranh> nope [09:43] <gr33n7007h> basichash: dd if=whatever.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=512k # if you wanna know :) [09:43] <Guest22031> ok sorry [09:43] <basichash> gr33n7007h: thanks ;) [09:43] <basichash> is that basically what disk creator does? [09:44] <goeranh> gr33n7007h, sure u can do it by commandline [09:44] <goeranh> yes it is [09:44] <goeranh> but its not graphical [09:44] <gr33n7007h> goeranh: i'm just a term freak :) [09:44] <Guest22031> can you tell me how to stabilise my cpu utilisation on my computer [09:44] <goeranh> ... [09:44] <basichash> goeranh: i'm more used to cli than GUI [09:44] <goeranh> xD [09:44] <Guest22031> ?? [09:44] <Guest22031> please [09:44] <basichash> hate GUI tbh [09:45] <goeranh> im new to linux xD [09:45] <goeranh> i had windows bevore [09:45] <goeranh> and its so much better [09:45] <goeranh> and easyer [09:45] <gunnar> Guest22031: Are you using a mobile cpu? [09:46] <gunnar> Guest22031: If so apm can help with cpu governors. [09:47] <basichash> goeranh: depends what you want from your OS [09:47] <goeranh> should be fast [09:47] <gunnar> Guest22031: Though you may need to recompile your kernel to implement it. And it only works for mobile cpu's [09:48] <mouseover> goeranh: I couldnt find it there, but I did find it here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.10/ubuntu-14.10-desktop-i386.list [09:48] <mouseover> Just for your future reference [09:48] <goeranh> ok thanks [09:48] <lotuspsychje> mouseover: what are you trying to find as package exactly? [09:48] <goeranh> preinstalled package list [09:49] <goeranh> u can also download package links (something.deb) [09:50] <mouseover> lotuspsychje: I want to install my wireless drivers (bcm-kernel-source) from the Ubuntu CD (because I dont have an internet connection). [09:50] <Guest22031> i use 4 CPUs and i have picks on differents cpu i would like to regularise that [09:50] <lotuspsychje> mouseover: you can add the cdrom to sources [09:50] <mouseover> goeranh: I did download the .deb file, but it has a tree of dependencies [09:50] <goeranh> ohh [09:51] <Guest22031> i dont now if you can anderstand me?? [09:51] <mouseover> lotuspsychje: Correct, however, I first need to know if the CDROM has the package to begin with... hence I was looking for a list of packages that are included on the CD. [09:51] <lotuspsychje> mouseover: cant you use an eth0 cable to download wifi drivers? [09:51] <mouseover> lotuspsychje: Nope :( [09:51] <Hanumaan_> I have a following configuration in HDD unable to do dual boot Windows and Ubuntu http://paste.ubuntu.com/10807399/ [09:51] <gunnar> Guest22031: Do you mean you have four physical processors or a quad core? [09:51] <goeranh> mouseover, are u on an laptop? [09:51] <Guest22031> in the system monitor i have the frequency curve [09:52] <goeranh> using laptop edition? [09:52] <mouseover> lotuspsychje: btw, if I add the CD to sources, do you know how dependencies are handled? [09:52] <basichash> what do i set the partition type to? [09:52] <mouseover> goeranh: Yes [09:52] <Guest22031> yes [09:52] <goeranh> then it is on ur cd [09:52] <goeranh> i also use it [09:52] <lotuspsychje> mouseover: normally when you add the cdrom to sources, you can browse packages with software centre or synaptic [09:52] <mouseover> goeranh: I actually am using Lubuntu CD, not Ubuntu [09:53] <goeranh> ok [09:53] <gunnar> Guest22031: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to do. [09:53] <Guest22031> i think i have a quad core [09:53] <basichash> gr33n7007h: which partition type should i use? [09:53] <basichash> W95 FAT32? [09:53] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | Hanumaan_ [09:54] <lotuspsychje> !uefi > Hanumaan_ [09:54] <goeranh> basichash, use ext2 [09:54] <gr33n7007h> basichash: you don't have to format or anything [09:55] <Guest22031> i want to have regular curve in system monitor of my cpu [09:55] <goeranh> or just use re33n7007hs command [09:55] <basichash> gr33n7007h: just enable the bootable flag? [09:55] <gr33n7007h> basichash: you don't even have to do that [09:55] <basichash> oh ok, thanks [09:56] <gunnar> Guest22031: I'm guessing here that you want to distribute the load on all 4 cores? If so that is probably not possible 'cause programs are coded to utilize the processors in different ways. [09:57] <gunnar> Guest22031: Google 'threading' [09:57] <gr33n7007h> basichash: it basically copies the image byte for byte [09:57] <goeranh> and when its done its bootable [09:58] <Guest22031> ok i thind this topic can you explain me want do you think of that ?? http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/cpu-frequtils [09:58] <gr33n7007h> goeranh: yep [09:58] <goeranh> i messed around with it at the begin bevore i chosed ubuntu [09:59] <goeranh> its the same on other distros [10:00] <gunnar> Guest22031: It seems that CPU-Frequtils, as powernowd no longer work from Ubuntu 12.04. These utilities are replaced by Jupiter: an energy manager [10:00] <lotuspsychje> !info indicator-cpufreq | Guest22031 [10:00] <Guest22031> attention i don't use this topic i don't now if it's realy ok [10:01] <Guest22031> ok thanks i check it [10:02] <gunnar> Hope it helps. [10:04] <gunnar> Also this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/455687/how-to-run-cpufreqd-in-ubuntu-14-04 [10:04] <Exagone313> I tried to install lightdm-gtk-greeter, and now it starts on a tty, so I don't what to do [10:04] <Exagone313> i go to #awesome [10:05] <Guest22031> thanks i runnig cpu utils i look at the evolution if i see you later i inform you of the evolution [10:06] <Guest22031> by [10:14] <asghar__> can i install openstack without maas ? [10:17] <OerHeks> asghar__, no http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-ubuntu-openstack [10:41] <Hereforcoding> hi... [10:41] <Hereforcoding> I need help in setting proxy in ubuntu [10:42] <Hereforcoding> I am not able to run sudo apt-get update and all othere network related in terminal [10:42] <gunnar> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/ [10:47] <ioria> gparted crashed with external hhd : dmesg | grep gparted [10:47] <ioria> [ 1121.558065] gpartedbin[2418]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp b0aa6e90 error 4 in gpartedbin[8048000+118000] [10:50] <gunnar> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/segmentation-fault-on-linux-unix.html [10:51] <ioria> gunnar: thanx maybe is lett. d) -faulty hardware- because usually gparted works. [10:52] <ioria> but the drive seems to works... read and write [10:52] <ioria> this is worst scenario... because i'm tempted to use it [10:53] <gunnar> ioria: Perhaps a tired memmory chip? [10:54] <ioria> gunnar: right. it'a and old sata drive recuperated by a hp pavillion laptop [10:54] <gunnar> ioria: :-) [10:55] <ioria> gunnar: i was forced to reflow its video card with a thermal pistol [10:55] <gunnar> ioria: Brave soul [10:56] <ioria> gunnar: brave and stupid [10:56] <gunnar> hehehe [10:56] <gunnar> ioria: breaking stuff is the best way to learn. [10:57] <ioria> gunnar: yep but i'm 30 years old i should have already learned [10:57] <Exagone313> Hello, I've a problem with X, the screen is zoomed in. How to zoom out? Thanks for helping [10:58] <gunnar> ioria: never to late or early to learn. Embrace your lack of knowledge and keep learning. [10:58] <ioria> gunnar: i'll follow your advice. thanx [10:58] <gunnar> ioria: Your welcome. [10:59] <Exagone313> I think I need to sue xrandr, but I don't know what command to use [10:59] <Exagone313> use* [10:59] <gunnar> hmm somebody pasted a linky on xrandr earlier.. you could google it? [11:00] <Wug> Exagone313: have you tried `lawyer --court superior --claim [your complaint here] --law [section:subsection]`? :D [11:00] <gunnar> LOL :D [11:00] <ioria> Exagone313, never occurred to me: try this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/82398/how-to-zoom-inzoom-out [11:00] <Exagone313> Wug: command not found (didnt tried) [11:01] <Exagone313> ioria: I don't use unity, and the problem occurs with any window managher (kde/unity/awesome...) [11:02] <Exagone313> so it's a x-server problem [11:03] <gunnar> wow.. I'm still sitting here snickering about Wug's comment... how sad am I? [11:04] <gartral> so i've been following the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openvpn.html and they appear to be wrong... it errors out at "./clean-all" instruction saying that I need to set "source vars" even though i have. i'm running 14.04 on my server... help? [11:04] <Wug> gunnar: in your defense, i am pretty hilarious. :) [11:04] <gunnar> http://askubuntu.com/questions/379123/can-i-zoom-out-windows-or-scale-the-whole-desktop [11:05] <gunnar> Wug: Thanks I feel better now. :P [11:06] <gunnar> Exagone313: That shoukd help you out. [11:06] <gunnar> should* [11:07] <ioria> Exagone313, check your resolution [11:07] <Exagone313> on, windows, I don't have this problem [11:07] <Exagone313> -, [11:08] <gunnar> gartral: I followed the same guide as you to set up my vpn and I've had no problems.. perhaps a typo somewhere? [11:08] <ioria> Exagone313, xdpyinfo | grep dimensions [11:08] <gartral> gunnar: I'll try again, please stand by [11:08] <gunnar> sir yes sir [11:09] <Exagone313> with xrandr, i set 800x600, and it is scaled, but I want to get 1920x1080 [11:10] <Exagone313> ioria: so it replies 800x600 [11:10] <gunnar> Exagone313: Have you set proper modelines in your xorc conf? [11:10] <ioria> very good :-P [11:10] <Exagone313> what is it? [11:10] <Exagone313> i didn't edited xorg conf [11:10] <ioria> may we found the problem [11:11] <gunnar> it's a config file that has to do with telling the xserver what resolution you want to run at. [11:11] <gartral> gunnar: doesn't look like i typo'd.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10807887/ [11:11] <Hereforcoding> hi.... [11:12] <gunnar> ohh yeah I remember running into this problem. [11:12] <samfreenode> I just installed Skype, is it really going to load every single message ever sent before it finalyl runs? [11:12] <gunnar> You need to su to root [11:12] <Exagone313> but if I set my resolution like I want with xrandr, it is zoomed in [11:12] <gartral> gunnar: oh... [11:12] <gunnar> and the source it, since the source command isn't by default in your path [11:12] <gartral> gunnar: how do i do that? [11:12] <gunnar> just type su [11:13] <gunnar> and the passwors [11:13] <gartral> gunnar: i did [11:13] <gunnar> and then do the source command again. [11:13] <gartral> so continue from here? [11:13] <samfreenode> Why is Skype loading every single message I've ever sent on the network, and it won't become responsive? [11:13] <miceiken> can I have cp output some kind of information about progress? [11:13] <gunnar> Stand by gartral [11:16] <gunnar> gartral: So yeah like I said earlier, after you su to root in the /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/ run as root, not sudo source vars, log back out to your regular user and sudo ./clean-all ./build-ca [11:16] <gunnar> that worked for me [11:17] <gartral> gunnar: ok, now i'm running into the issue of cp: cannot stat ‘dh2048.pem’: No such file or directory [11:18] <gunnar> you need to change the name of the dh2048 file. [11:18] <gunnar> ./build-dh [11:18] <gartral> gunnar: to and from? I can't exactly correctly follow the documentation when said documentation is inheirently broken [11:19] <gunnar> gartral: I know it's a bit tricky.. you need to read it all ahead of time.. kinda :P [11:20] <gartral> gunnar: OK, got that bit [11:20] <gunnar> gartral: By that I mean, don't type in the commands one by one, but read the paragraph above each one before you try them. [11:21] <gartral> gunnar: I got this far.. cd /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/ [11:21] <gartral> source vars [11:21] <gartral> ./build-key client1 [11:21] <gunnar> this particular section of the server guide is a bit chaotic. [11:21] <gartral> soory! didn't mean to multi-post! [11:22] <gunnar> OK so a this point you can either physicly copy the certs on a usb stick to the target client... [11:22] <gunnar> or use something like scp or sftp. [11:23] <gunnar> it wont let you copy the files via an unencrypted method. [11:23] <gartral> gunnar: can't physically do it.. so I'll do it remote [11:23] <gunnar> then scp or sftpis your saving grace [11:24] <gartral> gunnar: again, it won't run the commands [11:25] <Kaby> guys i have installed skype but it disappear from the menu and i can't open new skype it says you are already signed in another place any help (ubuntu 14.10) [11:25] <gartral> gunnar: nvm, i typoed that one [11:25] <gunnar> gartral: Cool [11:26] <nszceta> how does 3.4.0-0ubuntu2 differ from python 3.4.3 (ubuntu 14.04 LTS) [11:26] <gunnar> gartral: Also before you copy the files over, if I was you, I'd chown the certs to the user on the client machine. [11:27] <gartral> gunnar: ok, easy enough [11:28] <gartral> gunnar: i need the *.key, yes? [11:28] <miceiken> can I have 'cp' output some kind of information about progress? [11:29] <gartral> obviously, i'm replacing the name of the key with a "*" [11:29] <gunnar> gartral: Yeah, copy the client1.crt and the client1.key to the client machine, you don't need the both mind you but just to be safe I copy them both. [11:30] <gartral> gunnar: ok, i understand [11:30] <gunnar> miceiken: -vv? [11:33] <gartral> gunnar: problem, I can't access the directory with the keys [11:33] <gunnar> gartral: do it as root [11:33] <Hackwar1> hi folks, I got a little issue with a filesystem. e2fsck says, that the filesystem size is X blocks, while the physical drive size is Y blocks, where Y<X. How can I fix this apprently faulty superblock/partition? [11:33] <gartral> gunnar: I can't ssh in as root, root isn't set up [11:34] <dkdlsd9> hi, I receive 'drive not ready' at boot but if I press M for manual and type mount -a everything is mounted as specified in the fstab. Any ideas what can I do? [11:34] <goeranh> use midnight commander ore something like this [11:34] <goeranh> sudo mc [11:34] <gartral> brb [11:35] <gunnar> gartral: dang.. chmod the keys directory 777 and change it back to 600 after you're done copy-ing the keys? [11:35] <skulltip> would it be better to install the 32-bit OS on a laptop with 3072Mb, or 64-bit in terms of (school) productivity and memory usage? libreoffice, email, firefox/chrome, etc.. [11:35] <skulltip> 3074 or whatever.. basically 4G [11:35] <goeranh> 64 [11:36] <gartral> growl... [11:36] <skulltip> ty goeranh [11:36] <goeranh> if u have an 64 bit cpu [11:37] <skulltip> ok, it's an older toshiba but will check [11:39] <nicholas> exit [11:40] <gartral> gunnar: it won't let me copy the .key! it keeps saying permission denied! [11:41] <gunnar> gartral: then recursivly chmod 777 the keys directory, and back to 600. [11:41] <gartral> gunnar: I forgot about that! ty [11:42] <gunnar> gartral: no worries :) [11:42] <gartral> should I grab ca.crt? [11:42] <gartral> gunnar: ^^^ [11:42] <gunnar> gartral: no need. [11:42] <dreamon> having a issue with suspend to ram. sometimes it works fine, sometimes not. sometimes theres no more gui after it wakes up. STRG+ALT+F1 works. but the gui is dark. I hear normal sound from sky. so I know it still runs. [11:43] <gunnar> gartral: once you connect to the vpn from the client machine it'll just ask you to verify the servers cert. [11:43] <dreamon> need some idea how to fix it. [11:43] <gartral> gunnar: what in the client config is broken? [11:44] <gunnar> gartral: hmm don't know, my client is using windows and openvpn. It was a pain in the *** to configure. [11:44] <gartral> gunnar: ok, well I'll try to figure it out as I go, but "EWWWW Windows!" lol [11:44] <MonkeyDust> dreamon i guess it's to do with your swap space, the size of it [11:45] <ioria> dreamon ya me too... i moved a file and install xscreensaver... give a sec to remember the filename [11:45] <gunnar> gartral: Hehehe it's my main box, used for gaming. No real choice :P [11:45] <gartral> gunnar: I game on Ubuntu. Any games that on't run I have no need to play [11:45] <gartral> !:P [11:46] <gartral> don't* [11:46] <gunnar> gartral: pfft puritan! :D [11:46] <goeranh> gantral: thats right if i wanna wait until windows has booted... [11:46] <gartral> gunnar: to be fair, out of 200+ games, i've ran into 17 that won't play at all [11:48] <ioria> dreamon do you have a /usr/share/app-install/desktop/light-locker-settings:light-locker-settings.desktop ? [11:48] <dreamon> MonkeyDust, ioria only changes I found is that every time I boot, it makes a new fsck .. [11:48] <gunnar> gartral: yeah.. I've just had my set up on that box for so long and everything works the way I want to to and I don't want to mess with it. I've been fantasizing about dual booting linux on that box though. I already have a few linux vm's running on that box. [11:49] <dreamon> ioria, Is it a file or a entry in dconf? [11:49] <gartral> gunnar: haaah.. you want to see what my server is running? [11:49] <ioria> dreamon it's not a regular file ... wait a sec [11:50] <gartral> nvm, the info page is broken.... damn you apache! [11:51] <gunnar> gartral: sure [11:51] <gunnar> gartral: muhahaha [11:52] <dreamon> ioria, yes I have this file, too [11:52] <ioria> dreamon well ... you have to use terminal... cd in /usr/share/app-install/desktop and ls -l light-locker-settings:light-locker-settings.desktop [11:52] <gartral> gunnar: I need to fix my files [11:53] <gartral> i can't even think of the name... the files that allow access [11:53] <gartral> htaccess! that's it [11:53] <ioria> dreamon you can try to move or rename (command line) and install xscreensaver . I solved in this way [11:54] <Thenewone> Hi any one good at scripting [11:54] <ioria> dreamon then reboot or logout [11:55] <Thenewone> how can switch a line in file to comment ? [11:55] <dreamon> ioria, Ok -> sudo mv light-locker-settings:light-locker-settings.desktop light-locker-settings:light-locker-settings_.desktop -> Now rebooting [11:55] <MonkeyDust> Thenewone by adding a # in front [11:56] <ioria> dreamon yep [11:56] <Thenewone> yep but from script [11:56] <Thenewone> i dont want add that by gedit [11:56] <Thenewone> just script who do the work for me [11:56] <MonkeyDust> Thenewone bash script? [11:57] <Thenewone> yep [11:57] <MonkeyDust> Thenewone better ask in #bash [11:57] <ioria> Thenewone, look sed command [11:57] <Thenewone> thanks [11:58] <rexuss> Hi.. I just renamed my volume group and logical volume. Does this mean I also need to manually edit the fstab as well? [12:00] <smallmouse> can anyone assist with a really slow wireless card on a desktop machine. [12:00] <lotuspsychje> smallmouse: wifi chipset please? [12:00] <smallmouse> I have increased the power but the wireless speed is very very slow, it is not the router [12:00] <ktanner> are there any hotkeys to get to recovery mode on 14.10 32bit? no grub menu is showing on my laptop [12:00] <lotuspsychje> ktanner: hold shift at boot to enter grub [12:00] <SaltlakeCity1622> does anyone know how to get the expose feature back in modified versions of ubuntu, where it has been removed? you know the feature where you can spread all open windows apart to see everything that you have open? [12:00] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | ktanner [12:01] <benjhocking> @smallmouse what chipset are you using [12:01] <benjhocking> e.g. what motherboard [12:01] <Thenewone> ioria, thanks man [12:01] <ioria> Thenewone, np [12:01] <ktanner> thanks lotuspsychje it worked [12:01] <benjhocking> ^^ like [12:01] <lotuspsychje> SaltlakeCity1622: i think some features of unity moved to unity-plugins-extras or something [12:02] <lotuspsychje> !yay | ktanner [12:02] <SaltlakeCity1622> I'll have a look, where would I find that? [12:02] <lotuspsychje> !find unity-plugin [12:03] <lotuspsychje> holdon [12:03] <jackintosh> SaltlakeCity1622 you mean compiz? [12:04] <gartral> gunnar: i'm confused by this phrasing.. "And you have to at least specify the OpenVPN server name or address. Make sure the keyword client is in the config. That's what enables client mode. [12:04] <smallmouse> benjhocking: how do i get the chipset [12:05] <smallmouse> lotuspsychje: how do i get the chip set thanks [12:05] <lotuspsychje> smallmouse: sudo lshw -C network [12:05] <gunnar> gartral: Yeah it's the first line in the openvpn server config. You need to tell the client to oppeate in client mode, by default it's set to server. [12:06] <smallmouse> lotuspsychje: reateckPCI extpress Qualcomm Atheros [12:06] <lotuspsychje> !atheros | smallmouse [12:06] <dreamon> ioria, Im testing. [12:06] <gunnar> gartral: so depending on what config you chose, make sure the first line read 'client' on the client. :P [12:07] <lotuspsychje> !info compiz-plugins-extra | SaltlakeCity1622 try this mate [12:07] <sudomarize> what is the standard location for installing software? [12:07] <gartral> gunnar: in /etc/openvpn/client.conf? [12:07] <lotuspsychje> SaltlakeCity1622: i used this to get wobbly windows back once, maybe your effect is also in there [12:08] <gunnar> gartral: I'd also edit the server config to tell the server to force the clients to use the vpn server as their internet connection. Can't remember where in the config it's situated exactly. [12:08] <sudomarize> e.g. if i have tar, where is the generally accepted location to put it [12:08] <nszceta> Q: what is the best way to host my own packages I built? [12:09] <lotuspsychje> nszceta: for what purpose? [12:09] <gartral> gunnar: there's no server.conf [12:09] <nszceta> lotuspsychje ec2 server infrastructure [12:09] <nszceta> I have my own programs I packaged with fpm [12:09] <nszceta> for RHEL I use createrepo [12:09] <gunnar> gartral: Yes. on the client, you don't need to worry about that since there is no server.conf there. [12:09] <lotuspsychje> nszceta: for backup, or repo hosting? [12:09] <SeaDonky> programs i have installed has gone to /etc [12:10] <nszceta> lotuspsychje only for my custom packages. thanks [12:10] <gartral> gunnar: so just edit client.conf? [12:10] <lotuspsychje> nszceta: you can backup your favorite packages with aptoncd perhaps? [12:10] <gunnar> gartral: At least skim over it and check to see if there are any obvious errors. [12:10] <gartral> gunnar: ok [12:10] <welintonfer> Hello [12:10] <lotuspsychje> nszceta: hosting, is really the users choice right [12:11] <nszceta> ???? [12:11] <nszceta> I am going to host my own packages on my own private network for my other nodes to install [12:11] <nszceta> this is for purely internal use [12:12] <lotuspsychje> nszceta: so you want a personal repo? [12:12] <nszceta> correct sir [12:12] <gunnar> gartral: Just make sure the first line says 'client' and that the correct ip address for the server is set along witht the port number. [12:12] <nszceta> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal [12:12] <lotuspsychje> !repo | nszceta [12:12] <gartral> gunnar: that worries me, the entry remote my-server-1 1194 [12:12] <nszceta> is this up-to-date with the latest best practices? [12:12] <gunnar> gartral: hmm give me moment, I'm gonna check my own client config. [12:13] <lotuspsychje> nszceta: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know the newest tricks in the house :p [12:14] <gartral> gunnar: I might have to consult the dd-wrt crew for a bit... [12:14] <gunnar> gartral: Just comment that line out, don't delete it (just for future reference) and manually type in the ipaddress of the server and the port number. [12:15] <gartral> gunnar: what port, that's the bit that worries me [12:15] <gunnar> gartral: Ok keep me posted, not going anywhere soon. [12:15] <dreamon> ioria, till now it works .. :) going on testing [12:16] <ioria> dreamon, ok [12:16] <ioria> dreamon, check your ram and swap --- free and free -m [12:18] <sudomarize> exit [12:18] <sudomarize> exit [12:18] <gunnar> gartral: http://www.speedguide.net/port.php?port=1194 Just if it eases your worries. [12:21] <gartral> gunnar: i don't understand? [12:22] <gunnar> gartral: me neither? What is it that worries you with regards to the port? [12:23] <gartral> gunnar: i don't think said port is open [12:25] <dreamon> ioria, it works.. really cool. can you please tell me what I ve done? [12:25] <gunnar> gartral: ahh ok.. what's your setup like? [12:26] <ioria> dreamon, well in one word is a 'bug' [12:26] <ioria> dreamon, wait.. [12:26] <dreamon> ioria, what kind of apps is there? [12:27] <ioria> dreamon, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736 [12:28] <gartral> gunnar at the server end it's a dd-wrt router with a server hardwired in [12:28] <gunnar> gartral: All you have to do is forward the port to your vpn server from your router, and on the server iself via iptables you'll need to allow external connection on either UDP og TCP port 1194. [12:29] <gartral> gunnar: i know, issue is is i have no outside access from said router [12:30] <gunnar> gartral: Wow... this is getting a bit beyond my skill set. If I can help you at all though, feel free to ask. [12:31] <dreamon> ioria, Its possible I installed xfce4.. think after that the issue began. [12:31] <gartral> gunnar: again, at this point, i need to ask the dd-wrt folks, waiting on an answer [12:32] <ioria> dreamon, it not depends only on xfce4 i think depends on security [12:32] <adelpozoman> does this work? [12:32] <gunnar> gartral: Ok [12:32] <adelpozoman> how to change nick? [12:38] <ioria> ho no, my dear, i cannot eat haggis for breakfast [12:41] <dreamon> ioria, Thanks a thousend times. I was so short before to install from scratch. [12:42] <ioria> dreamon, np [12:43] <gartral> gunnar: the dd-wrt team is really "helpful" >.< [12:43] <vincenzo> ciao [12:44] <vincenzo> hi guys [12:44] <gartral> hi [12:47] <Nokaji> how can I over-ride the settings for icon-FONT in file manager, it does not respond to tweaking or even a re-set and is 6px approx [12:48] <gunnar> gartral: :) [12:49] <MichaelHabib> Hi [12:49] <MichaelHabib> I have DNS (Webmin + Bind) question. I managed to create a home Apache + DNS server. If I add Master Zone records I can access these domains from my PC but I cant set the root directories for these domains, not even with virtual hosts. [12:50] <gunnar> gartral: Have you read this? http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/OpenVPN [12:50] <ioria> Nokaji, have you seen this http://askubuntu.com/questions/19770/how-do-i-change-fonts-and-adjust-their-size [12:50] <nszceta> what does this mean [12:50] <nszceta> Packages in archive but missing from override file: [12:50] <gartral> gunnar: not feasable, router won't load the bigger firmware [12:51] <nszceta> got that during "dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz" [12:51] <dreamon> since I did → sudo touch /forcefsck → reboot system make everytime a filecheck of both HDDs. whats the reason? [12:51] <Nokaji> ioria: Yes thanks. It does not respond to unity-tweak-tool/ reset or other input methods [12:52] <Nokaji> used to ut not any more since a forced reboot [12:52] <Nokaji> most other fonts i can tweak [12:52] <gunnar> gartral: But do these instructions still not apply? You know since you're still using dd-wrt albeit a different version. Just brainstorming here. [12:53] <gartral> gunnar: no, since I can't at the moment access the NAT page of my router [12:54] <ioria> Nokaji, what kind of fonts ? [12:55] <Nokaji> in file manager - nautilus? is it called .. the files/folders/directories [12:55] <gunnar> gartral: Is it because you don't have root access to the nat or is it because you're not sure how to access/configure it in general? [12:56] <gartral> gunnar: neither, it's because the routers conf page is no longer accessable [12:56] <Nokaji> neglgible differnece even if I scale the fonts or change screen resolution, but then again 6px +50% is still tiny [12:56] <gunnar> gartral: ok [12:57] <ioria> Nokaji, try in cli http://askubuntu.com/questions/454279/change-default-system-font-using-terminal-only-in-14-04 [12:58] <Nokaji> I did try that before thanks, there is some comment that the file manager fonts can't be set and that there is a request for inclussion going back years [12:58] <Nokaji> I need to find a line of code somewhere i think, a config file [12:59] <ndhlp> hi. I need some help. I'm scared. Maybe parania but I have reasons to this. I need to update ubuntu trusty (14.04). But everytime its fails due some security check. Whether its a Hsh Sum Mismatch suddely the ubuntu master GPG keys become invalid, differing from the server keys. [12:59] <Nokaji> I'kk try it again to see what settings it says in case one is 6px but i did try before [13:00] <ndhlp> How do I update (and install new software) assuring the security? My first problem is 'W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG <very long key not found in any keyserver> Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>` [13:02] <Nokaji> 18,16,18,14 [13:02] <gunnar> gartral: I've been reading up on your problem on the dd-wrt forums. How are you connected to the router? and are you sure you are using the correct Ip addresses? Are you sure you are on the same subnet and so on? [13:03] <MichaelHabib> hi again, on my NSD server, creating a Master Zone gets picked up (can be accssed from pc) but creating a matching Virtual Host has no effect on the domain RootDir (or other options) .. any tips or ideas to where I can start looking for the problem ? [13:03] <MichaelHabib> my DNS ** [13:04] <gartral> gunnar: I have a static IP, so I have a hostname, and I'm trying over an open admin port [13:05] <nszceta> how can I provision an existing minimal ec2 instance with ansible 1.9 [13:06] <Nokaji> some drop-down file menus are tiny also [13:09] <gunnar> gartral: Are you sure the router is properly configured to forward the remote traffic to the internal os? and not to it's local network? [13:09] <Nokaji> is there some sort of 'file integrity check' with ubuntu, like windows SFC ? [13:09] <Kaby> i wonder why on windows my download speed is 20/30 kb and on ubuntu minimum starts at 60 kb to 160 kb lol [13:09] <gartral> gunnar: very, it was working for 3 years [13:11] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: hi & sorry to bother you again. You seem to know quit a bit about DNS and I can really use a coach to help me out for a bit [13:11] <gunnar> gartral: Ok, I'm just seeing a lot of posts about people loosing connectivity due to improper ip address settings. [13:11] <bboyacid> slt [13:11] <gartral> gunnar: def. not the case, I have people gaming on my server 24/7 [13:12] <gunnar> MichaelHabib: on which time zone are you, I'm going out for a bit. I'll be happy to help you later today? [13:12] <bboyacid> je veu windows sur linux comment faire stp [13:12] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: Australian time , but I can be online when ever you are, I sleep when the Internet does ;) [13:12] <cfhowlett> !fr | bboyacid [13:13] <exoudus> What’s up with all the ping timeouts?? [13:13] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: if you tell me how many hours from now and I will make sure to be online :) [13:14] <Exagone313> hello, i've a problem on kde, i've 2 hours more than my time zone. When I edit hour, I have this error: Unable to authenticate/execute the action: 4, [13:14] <Exagone313> what can I do? [13:14] <gunnar> MichaelHabib: 3 hours, and I'll be online. Check back with me then :) [13:14] <Exagone313> also, otehr problem, update-grub does not detect windows, same after mounting windows partitions and doing os-prober as described on tutorials [13:14] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: sure thing .. thanks so much for the help [13:14] <gunnar> gartral: well **** ... I hope you can figure this out. [13:15] <exoudus> are you root Exagone313?? [13:15] <Exagone313> yes [13:15] <Exagone313> no [13:15] <exoudus> hmm [13:15] <Exagone313> kde does not start as root [13:15] <exoudus> Do you login as root thou [13:15] <Exagone313> oh I think I know, kdesu or kdesudo is not installed [13:15] <exoudus> that might help [13:16] <Exagone313> same [13:16] <Exagone313> it does not work [13:16] <exoudus> allso logon as root then do it [13:16] <MichaelHabib> Exagone313: check the KDE wallet thing, i had few problems when it failed to connect / login correctly. [13:16] <Exagone313> or, how to user mtp in command line [13:16] <Exagone313> ntp* [13:16] <MichaelHabib> Exagone313: find the KDE wallet manager and login, may fix your problem [13:17] <Exagone313> MichaelHabib: what is it? [13:17] <rbajwa> i have a problem in ubuntu again login scren occur after login? [13:17] <Rory> Exagone313: It's a program to manage stored credentials, but that's not important right now [13:17] <Exagone313> I think it is not installed [13:17] <Exagone313> I installed plasma-desktop [13:18] <Exagone313> not kubuntu-desktop [13:18] <rbajwa> it is installed i use 12.04 from 2 years [13:18] <Rory> Exagone313: you probably want kubuntu-desktop to pull in all the extras [13:18] <exoudus> it should be install by defalt [13:18] <Exagone313> i don't [13:18] <rbajwa> but recently i faced that prob [13:18] <MichaelHabib> Exagone313: Rory ... ignore my messages, I may have missread the original question.. [13:18] <gartral> !eol | rbajwa [13:19] <gartral> rbajwa: 12.04 is EOLed [13:19] <rbajwa> but in console it working well [13:19] <dienes> hi [13:19] <rbajwa> :( [13:19] <cfhowlett> 12.04 is NOT eol! [13:19] <rbajwa> yeh not eol [13:19] <gartral> cfhowlett: i thought it was [13:19] <rbajwa> nops [13:19] <cfhowlett> !12.04 [13:19] <gartral> oh, ignore me then >.> [13:20] <gartral> SORRY! [13:20] <OerHeks> 10.04 desktop is, gartral , and 10.04 server is still supporten ;-0 [13:20] <rbajwa> OK [13:20] <cfhowlett> 10.04 server support ends ... this month! [13:21] <OerHeks> yay [13:21] <Exagone313> i did "sudo ntpdate -s 2.fr.pool.ntp.org" and I have the correct time [13:21] <Exagone313> then, for my grub problem, any clue? [13:22] <dienes> i have a proble. anyone can help me? the problem java in browsers (security alert, not loading, etc) [13:22] <Exagone313> dienes: can you more describe your problem about java? [13:23] <Rory> !java | dienes have you read the official docs on Java? [13:23] <dienes> so, look at this page: http://sakk-online.hu/chessclient/applet.php [13:23] <Rory> dienes: you should install the package icedtea-7-plugin [13:24] <dienes> plugin installed.. and i looked win/linux ff/iron/chrome [13:25] <dienes> i think this application is very old [13:41] <vincenzo> ciao [13:41] <vincenzo> ciao [13:42] <vincenzo> hi guyas [13:46] <nszceta> hi [13:47] <Guest12129> hi [13:56] <Guest12129> hi [13:58] <BluesKaj> Hey folks [14:00] <donniezazen> What is the difference between xf86-video-intel and xserver-xorg-video-intel? [14:01] <Guest12129> xorg is open source video driver i belive [14:01] <Guest12129> dont qoute me [14:04] <donniezazen> Guest12129: I am thinking about setting up external monitor using this article http://www.unixreich.com/blog/2013/linux-nvidia-optimus-on-thinkpad-w520w530-with-external-monitor-finally-solved/ [14:05] <donniezazen> It is kind of old and I am too scared of messing up with graphic drivers because that would mean I will probably have to reinstall. [14:05] <Guest12129> i have a cheap intel video in my netbook [14:05] <donniezazen> Guest12129: btw I have seen other distro like Arch and Fedora ship xf86-video-intel by default. I think intel open source their drivers. [14:06] <pixierail> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER pixierail qabgcsdeeeqa [14:06] <SchrodingersScat> time to pick a new one [14:06] <pixierail> woops =) [14:06] <BluesKaj> intel graphics are usually quite good for a an onboard chip [14:06] <SchrodingersScat> pixierail: also, if you /query nickserv , less chance of that [14:07] <smallmouse> Hi i would like to switch off usb data transfer to lock down a user, does anyone have an idea on how to do this. This should be effected at start up. [14:07] <mintyfresh> im not ubuntu so i cant help [14:10] <[RO]Daniel> hi all, can anyone recommend me an app that is able to normalize flac files without loose the artwork and tag from files? [14:11] <cfhowlett> [RO]Daniel, audacity [14:11] <[RO]Daniel> cfhowlett, thanks but that has only peak normalize, i would like something that normalizes based on RMS or loudness whatever [14:12] <[RO]Daniel> i like verry much what job does normalize-audio (command line only) but with that i loose the tag and artwork [14:12] <smallmouse> Hi i would like to switch off usb data transfer to lock down a user, does anyone have an idea on how to do this. This should be effected at start up. thank you [14:12] <cfhowlett> [RO]Daniel, ask #opensourcemusicians they would know [14:12] <[RO]Daniel> ok thanks cfhowlett :) [14:29] <smallmouse> Hi i would like to switch off usb data transfer to lock down a user, does anyone have an idea on how to do this. This should be effected at start up. [14:30] <goeranh> hello, does anybody know an good video editing software? [14:30] <cfhowlett> smallmouse, a single user lockdown?? [14:30] <cfhowlett> !openshot | goeranh, [14:30] <lotuspsychje> smallmouse: you could try kiosk software [14:30] <goeranh> thank you [14:30] <smallmouse> cfhowlett: yes thanks just single user [14:30] <cfhowlett> !info openshot [14:31] <cfhowlett> smallmouse, yep, kiosk mode [14:31] <goeranh> z [14:34] <lotuspsychje> smallmouse: you could also setup chmod strongly for a single user, and whatever he does with usb will not have effect on other folders [14:36] <jl> So I recently installed Ubuntu on my 2nd HD of my PC and I have two issues, only one of which needs to actually be solved. [14:36] <lotuspsychje> jl: ask your issue mate [14:36] <jl> My main issue is that sometimes ubuntu will crash and I will see a screen that looks like this http://imgur.com/a/nlp3p [14:36] <jl> But screenshots are also normal, nothing similar happens in windows ever [14:37] <I> ... [14:37] <lotuspsychje> jl: grafix chipset and ubuntu version please? [14:37] <yuriy> Hi) could somebody help with x.org driver. I have hp laptop with Intel/AMD Radeon graphic and use x.org driver. Almost everything is ok, but when I close a lid or suspend laptop then after I cannot use laptop because of black screen. any ideas? [14:37] <jl> Ubuntu 14.04, ATI HD 6870 [14:38] <lotuspsychje> jl: this reminds me of an ati xorg-video bug on my ati X800 [14:39] <jl> lotuspsychje, How were you able to fix it? [14:39] <lotuspsychje> jl: i think kernel update fixxed that [14:40] <lotuspsychje> jl: did you try additional drivers section, to see other drivers? [14:41] <jl> All I did so far to try to fix it so far was installing all updates to software I already have, I thought about the non-free drivers but I wasnt sure it was a driver thing [14:41] <lotuspsychje> jl: you could surely test other drivers to check [14:42] <jl> lotuspsychje, Should I install them before I know if it still crashes without switching? I guess it probably doesnt hurt but I tend to avoid changing too many things If I dont have to, i think it makes narrowing down where I messed something up difficult. [14:43] <lotuspsychje> jl: i would try a driver switch first + reboot to make sure its not a driver issue [14:45] <jl> lotuspsychje, Sure, I will intall the other driver, and hopefully it stops freezing up or just spazzing. Thanks! [14:45] <lotuspsychje> jl: you can always enter grub recoverymode if you get into troubles [14:46] <jl> Cool, should I use fglrx or fglrx-updates? [14:46] <lotuspsychje> jl: test out what works best for your card [14:47] <topdownjimmy> I have a VPN running on my server; if I want to connect to that machine from outside of the local network, how can I do that? [14:47] <lotuspsychje> topdownjimmy: sounds like a question for the ##networking guys mate [14:48] <topdownjimmy> Thanks lotuspsychje [14:48] <hereforcoding> hi.. [14:48] <hereforcoding> need help for setting proxy for terminal [14:49] <lotuspsychje> !proxy | hereforcoding [14:49] <lotuspsychje> !squid [14:49] <hereforcoding> Actually sodo apt-get update is not working [14:49] <jl> lotuspsychje, Thanks lotus. [14:49] <hereforcoding> curl is not working [14:49] <lotuspsychje> jl: np, hope it works [14:51] <ioria> hereforcoding, exact error ? [14:51] <hereforcoding> git clone https://openhatch.org/git-mission-data/git/Hereforcoding git_missions Cloning into 'git_missions'... error: Failed connect to openhatch.org:3128; No route to host while accessing https://openhatch.org/git-mission-data/git/Hereforcoding/info/refs fatal: HTTP request failed [14:53] <ioria> there is a relation between apt-get update curl and git ? [14:53] <Seveas> ioria: with apt-get update you can update git and curl :) [14:53] <Seveas> and git uses libcurl for http and imap connectivity. [14:53] <hereforcoding> Actually everything is connecting to network [14:53] <ioria> Seveas, sure... but ? [14:54] <hereforcoding> I think thats the problem [14:54] <Seveas> ioria: but nothing. I just arrived and have no context to the question :) [14:54] <hereforcoding> not sure about it [14:54] <ioria> Seveas, kiddin eh... :-P [14:55] <hereforcoding> I seen this http://kaamka.blogspot.in/2009/06/httpproxy-environment-variable.html [14:55] <Seveas> hereforcoding: what's tour proxy hostname and port? [14:55] <Seveas> usually you set it like this: [14:55] <hereforcoding> Seveas how to know that [14:56] <Seveas> export http_proxy=http://webproxy.mycompany.com:3128 [14:56] <Seveas> git clone http://.... [14:56] <Seveas> hereforcoding: well, you want to use a proxy. Kinda hard to do if you don't know the proxy :) [14:56] <hereforcoding> Actually I am using wifi [14:57] <hereforcoding> It working without proxy in firefox [14:57] <ioria> hereforcoding, don't mix the cards [14:57] <Seveas> so why are you trying to set a proxy? [14:57] <liren> quit [14:57] <mjuszczak> There's a workaround to a bug that says "kill aptd and install packagekit". What exactly does that do/ [14:58] <Seveas> mjuszczak: it'll break your system :) [14:58] <mjuszczak> ok [14:58] <hereforcoding> I thought that was the only problem the unix command is not working [14:58] <mjuszczak> Seveas: really? OK. It's the recommended workaround for: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/realmd/+bug/1333694 [14:58] <Seveas> hereforcoding: so let's back up a step or 20. What are you actually trying to do? [14:58] <hereforcoding> what may be the other reason [15:00] <hereforcoding> I am simply trying to run the common git clone https://openhatch.org/git-mission-data/git/Hereforcoding git_missions or curl or sudo get-update [15:00] <hereforcoding> none of this not working [15:00] <hereforcoding> Seveas [15:00] <Seveas> hereforcoding: ok, what's the output of the git clone command? [15:00] <ioria> hereforcoding, can you ping 8.8.8.8 and www.google.com ? [15:00] <Seveas> ioria: no rushing ahead :) [15:01] <ioria> go on ... [15:01] <hereforcoding> I am new to unix could tell how to ping 8.8.8.8 [15:01] <ioria> fume [15:01] <Seveas> hereforcoding: we can do that later. First I want to see the output of the git clone [15:02] <hereforcoding> You can clone the repository by running: git clone https://openhatch.org/git-mission-data/git/Hereforcod [15:02] <hereforcoding> https://openhatch.org/missions/git/checkout [15:02] <Seveas> hereforcoding: yes, and I want *you* to try that and tell me what the output is you get, to diagnose your connectivity issues. [15:02] <mjuszczak> Is it still okay to use adcli with all of the package bugs in realm join? [15:02] <hereforcoding> @ubuntu:~$ git clone https://openhatch.org/git-mission-data/git/Hereforcoding git_missions Cloning into 'git_missions'... error: Failed connect to openhatch.org:3128; No route to host while accessing https://openhatch.org/git-mission-data/git/Hereforcoding/info/refs fatal: HTTP request failed [15:03] <hereforcoding> Seveas [15:03] <Seveas> hereforcoding: ok, that openhatch.org:3128 in there makes me thing you've already set a broken http_proxy variable [15:03] <Seveas> try this command and show the output: env | grep -i proxy [15:04] <hereforcoding> I have tried that [15:04] <Seveas> ...and show the output [15:04] <hereforcoding> @ubuntu:~$ env | grep -i proxy NO_PROXY=localhost,127.0.0.0/8 http_proxy=http://webproxy.mycompany.com:3128 ALL_PROXY=socks://192.168.1.103:3128/ all_proxy=socks://192.168.1.103:3128/ socks_proxy=socks://192.168.1.103:3128/ UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=libappmenu.so no_proxy=localhost,127.0.0.0/8 [15:05] <Seveas> is that the literal output, or did you redact it? [15:05] <tiyteeze> hey [15:05] <tiyteeze> need help [15:05] <hereforcoding> I just copy paste Seveas [15:06] <MichaelHabib> gunnar: Hi, are you back ? [15:07] <Seveas> hereforcoding: ok, let's unset all those except the menu proxy: unset NO_PROXY; unset http_proxy; unset ALL_PROXY; unset all_proxy; unset socks_proxy; unset no_proxy [15:07] <Seveas> hereforcoding: and then try the clone again. The output should be different this time. [15:07] <hereforcoding> K Sevas let me try [15:07] <Seveas> tiyteeze: it's kinda hard to help if you don't tell us what's wrong :) [15:14] <hereforcoding> Seveas thank you very much :) [15:14] <RRliko> hi there [15:14] <dong_> fgdf [15:14] <dinet> good afternoon [15:14] <RRliko> Got a question - what's the software of choice to sandbox firefox in ubuntu? [15:15] <bekks> RRliko: Sandboxing in which manner? [15:15] <dinet> is it possible to change from -server to -desktop without reinstalling the entire system? [15:15] <Seveas> hereforcoding: it's working? :) [15:15] <bekks> dinet: Sure. Just use the desktop packages you want. [15:15] <hereforcoding> yes :) [15:15] <RRliko> bekks: sandboxing from system and home files [15:15] <Seveas> hereforcoding: excellent! [15:15] <bekks> RRliko: Install a virtual machine. [15:15] <Seveas> RRliko: run it in a vm [15:15] <RRliko> bekks: too hungry on resources [15:15] <hereforcoding> Seveas thanks a lot :) [15:15] <dinet> bekks: I have done that. feels like alot of things are missing. [15:15] <bekks> RRliko: Its the only way. [15:16] <RRliko> Seveas: bekks I'd like to use sandboxed firefox as main browser [15:16] <bekks> dinet: Then you did not install everything :) Which desktop environment do you want? [15:16] <Seveas> RRliko: firefox is hungrier than the vm if you make it a lean one [15:16] <bekks> RRliko: Then install it in a virtual machine. [15:16] <dinet> bekks: I have gnome installed [15:16] <bekks> dinet: Which Ubuntu are you on? [15:16] <dinet> bekks: latest [15:16] <bekks> dinet: NAme the version please. [15:17] <RRliko> Anyone else has got experience with sandboxing firefox? [15:17] <dinet> bekks: the latest that is not LTS.. iirc .10 [15:17] <bekks> dinet: Whats the output of "lsb-release -sd"? [15:18] <dinet> bekks: 14.10 [15:18] <bekks> dinet: How did you install gnome? [15:19] <RRliko> oh, btw, since I'm already here - do the new releases of Ubuntu still come with Amazon adds in search results? [15:19] <RRliko> haven't used the distro in a while [15:20] <bekks> RRliko: You can disable it, since the first release. [15:20] <dinet> bekks: the way I have always installed stuff. apt-get install gnome [15:20] <RRliko> bekks: Oh no, I remember that in 11.10 it was not possible to disable it, you had to purge the entire app [15:20] <bekks> RRliko: Then your memory is wrong, it was always possible. [15:21] <RRliko> That was when I switched to Linux Mint, due to the spyware, hopefully it's not there anymore [15:21] <RRliko> bekks: well, install it and see for yourself, in the first distro with Unity it was not possible [15:21] <RRliko> bekks: maybe updates changed it later [15:22] <RRliko> bekks: the option was only made available in 12.04 [15:22] <bekks> RRliko: So you are using Mint and dont even know if it doesnt use Amazon Ads? :D [15:22] <RRliko> bekks: no, I use fedora [15:22] <RRliko> *Fedora [15:23] <bekks> So the Fedora support is the best place to ask on how to sandbox firefox in a Fedora installation. [15:23] <OerHeks> That amazon thing was intentional, to see if you care about others :-D [15:23] <OerHeks> Next! [15:23] <zykotick9> RRliko: fyi http://www.pcworld.com/article/2840401/ubuntus-unity-8-desktop-removes-the-amazon-search-spyware.html [15:23] <RRliko> bekks: The thing is, I need Ubuntu point of view as well [15:23] <dinet> bekks: When I installed gnome the frontends for apt was not installed [15:23] <bekks> RRliko: But you arent using Ubuntu now. [15:24] <RRliko> bekks: That is correct. [15:24] <lisak> hey [15:24] <lisak> I heard Chef is to be part of default ubuntu 15.04 installation, is it already ? [15:25] <lisak> in the pre-release versions ? [15:25] <RRliko> zykotick9: It's good to know, however that will not get my trust back, I'll never use Ubuntu again. [15:25] <bekks> RRliko: Then why are you seeking the Ubuntu support? [15:25] <RRliko> zykotick9: Nonetheless, thank you for the link, it's good to know. [15:25] <xangua> !15.04 | lisak [15:25] <RRliko> RRliko: I've already explained that. Please stop unnecessarily taking my time. [15:26] <RRliko> bekks: ^ [15:26] <bekks> RRliko: Yeah, stop unnecessarily taking out time, please. [15:26] <gie> clear [15:27] <RRliko> Anyone on ubuntu using sandbox? [15:27] <RRliko> Sandbox, anyone? Please. [15:29] <cfhowlett> RRliko, ask #fedora for assistance with fedora [15:29] <RRliko> cfhowlett: I am not asking about Fedora. I am asking about sandbox on Ubuntu. [15:29] <RRliko> Focus. [15:29] <cfhowlett> RRliko, you stated you use fedora. you stated you don't and will never use ubuntu. you are in the wrong channel. [15:30] <RRliko> Leave me alone, you won't understand. [15:30] <OerHeks> RRliko, "I'll never use Ubuntu again." what do you do here ? [15:31] <Ziber> Is 13.04 no longer supported? [15:31] <RRliko> I need to know what software is used by Ubuntu users to sandbox applications. [15:31] <genii> Ziber: Correct [15:31] <teward> Ziber: yes, it is no longer supported. [15:31] <teward> !13.04 | Ziber [15:31] <Ziber> Well, hrm. How do I properly upgrade? [15:31] <Ziber> !upgrade [15:31] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | Ziber, [15:31] <bekks> !eolupgrade [15:32] <xangua> Ziber: it would be faster a clean install [15:32] <Ziber> I've got a lot of stuff running on that box... [15:32] <Ziber> I'd much rather upgrade [15:32] <bekks> Ziber: So back it up. [15:32] <xangua> good, a full day upgrading [15:32] <cfhowlett> Ziber, incrementally upgrade to a supported version i.e. 13.04 > 13.10 > 14.04 [15:32] <xangua> or just backup and do a clean install ;) whatever you preffer [15:32] <Ziber> Okay. [15:33] <bekks> Backup before you upgrade or reinstall. [15:33] <xangua> well maybe half a day minimum...that if everything goes with cero issues [15:33] <bekks> Otherwise your data can be safely considered as not being worth to be kept. [15:33] <Ziber> So, this is a server, how can I do this from cli? [15:33] <bekks> !backup | Ziber [15:33] <RRliko> Anyone in here using sandbox? [15:34] <OerHeks> There are a lot of sandbox solutions, which one? [15:34] <ioria> Ziber if you installed /home in a separate partition you can save it [15:35] <RRliko> OerHeks: Something that could take care of Firefox, excluding SELinux. [15:35] <RRliko> OerHeks: And excluding fully built virtual machines. [15:35] <gie> clear [15:35] <gie> sorry wrong chat [15:36] <RRliko> OerHeks: Also, something that would successfully sandbox the entire browser with its plugins. [15:36] <gunnar> MichaelHabib: Yeah back, I'm brushing up on zone files as we speak. [15:36] <Ziber> So, upgrading from a server? [15:37] <RRliko> OerHeks: Obviously, it would still have to connect to the Internet. Any help much appreciated. [15:38] <OerHeks> No clue without selinux, sorry [15:38] <RRliko> OerHeks: SELinux is broken as of now. Sandboxing won't work. [15:38] <RRliko> At least with the new update [15:39] <RRliko> I mean, SELinux still works well, but sandboxing won't. [15:40] <gunnar> MichaelHabib: If you are there, what's the problem? [15:52] <gunnar> bump [15:52] <gunnar> :D [16:00] <ioria> oh, another time, ... statup firefox page in spanish ... [16:00] <jParkton> same here [16:00] <jParkton> weird stuff [16:01] <ioria> yep [16:01] <jParkton> so now not only do I have to press 1 for English but I also have to assume my browser is in Spanish.... I need to practice up my spanish I guess, they taking over [16:02] <ioria> lol [16:02] <gunnar> The master domain server work in mysterious ways... [16:02] <ioria> now back english again... mistery ofthe faith [16:02] <gunnar> Maybe if we sacrfice a small goat? [16:03] <ioria> gunnar : yes... for haggis maybe [16:03] <jParkton> ioria: lol [16:03] <jParkton> gunnar: im down! [16:04] <jParkton> haggis is goat? [16:04] <Seveas> jParkton: nobody expects the spanish browser! [16:04] <gunnar> ioria: I'm icelandic, we eat sheep testicles... I win. [16:04] <ioria> really ? [16:04] <jParkton> This is true [16:04] <jParkton> it certainly surprised me [16:04] <Seveas> gunnar: and fermented shark. You're insane. [16:04] <jParkton> gunnar: we eat them in NC too [16:04] <spiff_> i love hakarl [16:05] <gunnar> Yeah.. I'm personally never going to try it, but back in the day.. people used ALL of the animals. [16:05] <gunnar> Poorer times [16:05] <ioria> oh yes... Þorramatur [16:05] * OerHeks loves raw herring [16:05] <jParkton> danh OerHeks [16:05] <jParkton> dang [16:05] <OerHeks> Dutch specialty [16:06] <gunnar> Seveas: That actually the only way to eat shark, it would be toxic otherwise. [16:06] <jParkton> that stuff smells interesting [16:06] <OerHeks> But lets get back ontopic :-D [16:06] <spiff_> goats? [16:06] <jParkton> or join #ubuntu-offtopic [16:06] <Seveas> OerHeks: is het al hollandse nieuwe tijd? :) [16:06] <Seveas> so what's the topic? Spanish browsers or other problems? [16:06] <gunnar> OerHeks: Aww this was just getting interesting :P [16:07] <Seveas> gunnar: #ubuntu-offtopic welcomes you :) [16:07] <gunnar> lulz :D [16:07] <OerHeks> Neen, 10 juni 2015 or later [16:07] <genii> We're already discussing bacon in there anyways [16:08] <gunnar> jParkton: Am i correct in a assuming when you say NC you mean North Carolina? [16:08] <jParkton> yessir [16:08] <gunnar> cool [16:09] <jParkton> testes are a southern traditional food [16:09] <jParkton> "Rocky Mountain Spotted Oysters" [16:10] <kumala> hi, I have a small doubt here. I have my OS installed on a drive and my storage on another drive. The storage drive is encrypted and when I boot on my OS drive I can mount it perfectly well. But, I have just tried to boot from a USB live OS and mounted the encrypted storage drive, entered the password, and it indeed mounted it but said I did not have the permissions when I tried to browse it. Then I switched to terminal and tried a `ls` on [16:10] <kumala> it and it indeed said permission denied. Then I tried as root and I could access it. I am planning to reinstall the OS and I am afraid this permission denied thing would be a pain. Do you have any idea what is going on and if a fresh OS would be affected or if this could be related to the USB live OS? [16:11] <jParkton> if there is a permissions issue shouldnt root be able to solve that? I have never setup like that but I assume chown can fix that? [16:12] <zykotick9> kumala: if your user id, in terminal you can use "id" to find out what it is, matches on the new installation, it _should_ be fine. [16:13] <kumala> yep, I thought maybe this is because the user / user id of the drive do not match the one on the USB live OS. But shouldn't this be taken care of by the ubuntu? If I have to "chown" it myself then I will do it, but I don't want to screw it if the OS has an automatic way to do it that I'm not aware of [16:14] <genii> nobel peace [16:15] <ioria> kumala did you mount the encrypted volumes ? [16:15] <kumala> yes [16:15] <ioria> kumala how [16:15] <ioria> ? [16:15] <kumala> I did it through the GUI, opening the icon. Then I checked with , mount, df... [16:15] <kumala> I could access the files, so it was mounted [16:16] <kumala> just the permissions were wrong [16:16] <kumala> and I wonder if ubuntu takes care of that or if I should do it manually [16:16] <ioria> kumala the mounted files are still encrypted or clear ? [16:17] <kumala> clear [16:17] <kumala> I provided my password during mount [16:17] <ioria> kumala passphrase you mean ? [16:17] <kumala> yes [16:18] <ioria> kumala and you cannot open or write on them ? [16:18] <kumala> with the default user of the ubuntu live USB, I can't read, but with root I can read write... [16:19] <kumala> I wonder what would happen in case of a fresh install [16:19] <ioria> ok, i'm out [16:20] <kumala> if it's just a matter of changing ownership manually then I'll do it. But I somehow thought that was not very Ubuntuish [16:20] <kumala> and I thought there must be something I got wrong [16:24] <kumala> well I guess that must not be so wrong if no one is shoked by this :) So I will try the reinstall and then change ownership manually. Thanks! [16:45] <hkrrsx> morning [16:45] <esu> hkrrsx: morning? where are you from? [16:45] <gunnar> afternoon here, but ok [16:46] <hkrrsx> esu: I'd prefer not to announce my home address :) [16:47] <gunnar> could give us your timezone just for kicks :D [16:47] <hkrrsx> gunnar: Eastern Time [16:48] <hkrrsx> esu: gunnar: This is a Ubuntu support channel, let's keep this specifically related to support questions [16:48] <gunnar> hkrrsx: awesome [16:48] <hkrrsx> Otherwise, /join #ubuntu-offtopic [16:48] <gunnar> hkrrsx: A thousand pardons. [16:49] <hkrrsx> np [17:05] <Sky_Symbol> hi, how can I switch language in gimp? [17:05] <hkrrsx> Sky_Symbol: /join #gimp [17:18] <aladiah> what it is the normal path after Libre Office install to reach Desktop-Integration sub directory ?= [17:21] <hkrrsx> aladiah: Please see this URL -- http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-4-0-Unity-Integration-in-Ubuntu-12-04-td4035137.html [17:22] <hkrrsx> It suggests to un-install your previous/current version of LibreOffice and then re-install via the Ubuntu repository [17:22] <hkrrsx> i.e. - sudo apt-get install libreoffice [17:23] <hkrrsx> Gotta go to a family event, bbl [17:23] <Guest18463> Hello, I use Ubuntu 14.04 64bits. I was trying to boot Windows 8.1 in another HDD but failed, I use BOOT REPAIR to make GRUB detect my Windows HDD but could not login, after a few reboots I can no longer boot into Ubuntu either, this is what I got after a BOOT REPAIR> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10796502/ [17:23] <Guest18463> Anyone know how to make my ubuntu HDD run again_ [17:24] <aladiah> hkrrsx : please tell me where is it the libre office folder [17:24] <Pumpkin-_> if I want a static /etc/resolv.conf and don't want resolvconf messing with it at all, what should I do ?. The fact /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink suggets in reality I can just replace that with a file, but is there something better I "should" be doing ? [17:25] <aladiah> Pumpkin : do you know how to find de libre office folder ? [17:26] <user_> can someone proofread something for me [17:26] <daftykins> user_: no, this is ubuntu support - not "do my homework for me" :) [17:26] <Pumpkin-_> aladiah: sorry, no I don't [17:28] <k1l> user_: #ubuntu-offtopic is the chitchat channel. you can ask there for non ubuntu support help [17:28] <aladiah> Pumpkin : CD /usr/share/libreoffice [17:28] <Pumpkin-_> well, if you know the answer, why are you asking me ? [17:29] <aladiah> Pumpkin : someone told me in lubuntu channel. thanks anyhway [17:29] <aladiah> was just to let you know too [17:29] <aladiah> maybe you can help someone in future [17:35] <Guest18463> Hello, I use Ubuntu 14.04 64bits. I was trying to boot Windows 8.1 in another HDD but failed, I use BOOT REPAIR to make GRUB detect my Windows HDD but could not login, after a few reboots I can no longer boot into Ubuntu either, this is what I got after a BOOT REPAIR> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10796502/ [17:35] <Guest18463> Anyone know how to make my ubuntu HDD run again_ [17:35] <Ziber> So, I'm at a grub prompt of my server, and it's saying "error: can't find command `kernel'." [17:37] <daftykins> Ziber: what did you change last? [17:38] <ioria> Guest18463, well, in theory, grub should be installed on the MBR of the master hhd... [17:39] <Guest18463> ioria: It just does not login, it stays stuck in a blank screen [17:39] <bangle> hey all i have a problem. a couple days ago i ago i deleted a version of python from my system and a bunch of other programs were deleted with it. everything seemed to be fine, until a recent update to ubuntu and restart. now i don't see file menus, can't use ctrl-T. its as if the windowing system of ubuntu is gone [17:39] <Guest18463> ioria: Not even after removing the Windows HDD will it login [17:40] <Guest18463> ioria: The master HDD is Ubuntu, the slave is Windows [17:40] <Ziber> I upgrade to 13.10 and then rebooted [17:40] <Ziber> So, libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [17:41] <daftykins> Ziber: do you have a RAID disk setup for where the OS is installed? [17:41] <Ziber> from my grub output. [17:41] <Ziber> nah [17:41] <daftykins> Ziber: ok is there much on this machine that a clean install would be a serious undertaking? [17:41] <Ziber> kinda [17:42] <Guest18463> I cant do a clean install either, I have important files there, and my HDD is encrypted, so I cant access from this liveCD [17:42] <bangle> is there a workaround to access the terminal? ctrl-T isn't working for me [17:42] <ioria> Guest18463, the slave disk with windows doesn't work alone, i suppose [17:42] <daftykins> Ziber: because right now, even if you fixed a 13.10 install - you've still got to upgrade to 14.04 to be running a supported release. so i'd just clean install if i were you [17:42] <Guest18463> ioria: Nope, not work at all [17:42] <MonkeyDust> bangle ctrl-alt F1 [17:43] <ioria> Guest18463, neither set as master ? [17:43] <Ziber> Gotta find a USB then.. :( [17:44] <Guest18463> ioria: No, must be the new UEFI thing or secure boot on Windows, my BIOS does not have those options [17:44] <ioria> Guest18463, secure boot can be disabled ... [17:45] <ioria> Guest18463, that's the first installation ? it never works before ? [17:46] <victor__> hello! Is anybody using Kubuntu 15.04? It's just to confirm an issue i'm having, each time i launch an app with sudo, plasma crashes and it never works again [17:46] <Guest18463> ioria: My ASUS P5Q Pro motherboard does not have those options, unless it is hidden [17:47] <bangle> monkeydust: thank you [17:48] <Guest18463> ioria: I have been using Ubuntu 14.04 for a while, it was working fine until the @Boot repair@ thing, my guess it was that thing broke everything [17:48] <esu> help [17:48] <esu> no bot here? [17:48] <ioria> Guest18463, why did you use it ? i don't remember [17:48] <zerowaitstate> !ubottu [17:49] <tzanolo> hello, good afternoon. Im with a trouble: all my control panel itens disapeared. I cannot change mouse, screen, monitor, keyboard anymore. [17:49] <tzanolo> I have 3 users and root enabled, no of the users appears any pannel. [17:51] <Ziber> So, I've got a USB. What do I need to do to make it bootable, from a mac? [17:52] <TheNumb> Ziber: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx [17:52] <daftykins> Ziber: erk, mac - i don't know how device naming works for them, lets see - do you have a 14.04 server 64-bit ISO downloaded already? [17:52] <daftykins> TheNumb has given you a helpful link ^_^ [17:52] <Ziber> I'm just downloading a 14.10 server 64bit iso [17:53] <Ziber> yeah, thanks [17:53] <daftykins> Ziber: i do not recommend using non-Long Term Support editions for server, stick to 14.04 [17:53] <TheNumb> ^ [17:53] <TheNumb> daftykins++ [17:53] <Ziber> oh, right, duh [17:53] <Ziber> lol [17:56] <aladiah> how to creat menu short cut to Libre office [17:57] <Vyom> hi peole.. I think I am in some serious shit.. I booted with a Ubuntu 14.04 usb stick, and choose to install it overwriting old Ubuntu.. but I think it overwrote my entire 1 Tb hdd [17:57] <Vyom> PLEASE HELP! :| [17:57] <daftykins> Vyom: ok well at the very least please be polite whilst in here [17:57] <delinquentme> Vyom are you currently allowing the install screen to keep running? [17:57] <MonkeyDust> Vyom avoid profane words and caps [17:58] <Vyom> delinquentme: Its all done now.. I have a fresh Ubuntu, with XChat running [17:58] <k1l> Vyom: what was on the disk before? [17:58] <delinquentme> Vyom daftykins knows that hes doing -- hes quite helpful [17:58] <Vyom> Windows ... documetns, images .. all my life :| [17:58] <k1l> Vyom: are you booted into the ubuntu right now? or on the live usb? [17:58] <Vyom> k1l: yes [17:58] <daftykins> Vyom: can you boot back into the live USB session and come back on here? [17:58] <daftykins> install or live session? [17:58] <delinquentme> "yes" [17:58] <Vyom> Installed session [17:58] <delinquentme> kek [17:59] <k1l> Vyom: can you pastebin a "suod fdisk -l" (small L at the end) into a pastebin? [17:59] <k1l> !paste | Vyom [17:59] <k1l> Vyom: "sudo fdisk -l" [17:59] <k1l> (sorry had a typo) [17:59] <ioria> Vyom, you have surely partitioned such a drive [18:00] <Vyom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810051/ [18:00] <Guest18463> ioria: I was trying to dual boot Windows 8.1 [18:00] <Guest18463> Is there a way to fix this_ [18:00] <k1l> Vyom: "sudo gdisk -l" please, since its a gpt partition sheme" [18:00] <ioria> Vyom, no you haven't [18:01] <Vyom> Problem opening -l for reading! Error is 2. [18:01] <Vyom> The specified file does not exist! [18:01] <k1l> i hate gpt, whats the commands for that again? [18:02] <k1l> sudo gdisk -L should do [18:02] <daftykins> sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda [18:03] <Vyom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810084/ Please help :( [18:03] <Thenewone> Hi GUYS [18:03] <Thenewone> Higuys * [18:03] <Ziber> Okay, so I've got the iso I need. I can just use dd to put it on the usb, right? [18:04] <daftykins> Vyom: can you "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" ? [18:04] <daftykins> Ziber: use the link earlier, it shows how to do it with macs [18:04] <Thenewone> i have ubuntu server on vbox how can connect to it out when i'm in work ? [18:04] <Vyom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810096/ [18:05] <daftykins> Vyom: yes you've wiped the lot [18:05] <k1l> Vyom: seems like you formated the whole drive [18:05] <Vyom> wth man ... :( I just told ubuntu to overwrite "old ubuntu" how can it format whole drive [18:06] <Guest18463> I am starting to doubt Linux's stability... [18:06] <Vyom> did it just cleaned the index, all formatted the sectors as well.. [18:06] <Vyom> can I recover? [18:06] <ioria> Guest18463, you installed windows after ubuntu ? [18:06] <daftykins> Vyom: if your data was after the ubuntu install it might be possible to recover yeah, with something like 'testdisk' [18:06] <k1l> !testdisk | Vyom [18:06] <Vyom> I have used testdisk before to recover lost android data.. [18:07] <daftykins> i have no experience with testdisk to know if it recovers data in-place or whether you need another drive to restore it to, though [18:07] <Guest18463> ioria: Yes, it is in another HDD http://paste.ubuntu.com/10796502/ [18:07] <Vyom> I have another drive 2 TB external hdd, if I need to recover [18:07] <daftykins> ah ok [18:07] <daftykins> well, 'sudo apt-get install testdisk' and give it a go i guess [18:07] <Vyom> question is, can it recover.. and is there some GOOD recovery program for Ubuntu [18:08] <ioria> Guest18463, you should have installed ubuntu after windows [18:08] <Guest18463> I am going to use BOOT REPAIR again and see what happens [18:08] <erwyn> Hello guys [18:08] <daftykins> hi [18:08] <Kaby> anyone knows show to hide ip on ubuntu 14.10 with tor browser please , mark my name if you want to answer me to notice please [18:08] <erwyn> I have a problem with nvidia prime [18:08] <Kaby> how to show* [18:08] <erwyn> I enabled it and now my session won't start [18:08] <k1l> Vyom: in general: formating is not overwriting but just forgetting where it was stored until the exact space on the hdd is overwritten with other data. so maybe there is some hope to get some data back. [18:09] <Bashing-om> Vyom: Perhaps a victim of this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1265192 . [18:09] <daftykins> erwyn: via 'additional drivers' ? [18:09] <Guest18463> ioria: Ok, if that makes Linux happy I will install Windows first, well, it is already installed... [18:09] <erwyn> daftykins: no command line [18:09] <daftykins> erwyn: apt-get install nvidia-prime ? [18:09] <erwyn> daftykins: ja [18:09] <daftykins> yeah that's wrong. [18:09] <erwyn> :( [18:09] <MonkeyDust> Guest18463 windows ruins grub, that's why you should windows first, then linux [18:09] <k1l> Vyom: so in general i would say: use dd_rescue to make a 1to1 backup and then try to recover the data from that. [18:09] <MonkeyDust> should install* [18:09] <daftykins> erwyn: so what do you want to do first, recover the desktop? can you get to a shell? [18:10] <erwyn> daftykins: yes i have a shell [18:10] <daftykins> erwyn: sudo apt-get purge nvidia* [18:10] <daftykins> then reboot. [18:10] <erwyn> okay [18:11] <Guest18463> MonkeyDust: even if its in another HDD_ [18:11] <MonkeyDust> Guest18463 you see what happened [18:11] <erwyn> daftykins: okay done [18:11] <Ziber> I'm having trouble using diskutil and dd to put an iso on a usb on mac osx. Keeps saying the device is busy [18:11] <ioria> Guest18463, does no matter... [18:12] <daftykins> Ziber: it's probably mounted in the finder, unmount it [18:12] <Ziber> I did. [18:12] <Vyom> daftykins: I am trying to use testdisk, it's beyond my level of knowledge about disk structure etc.. is thre some gui based recovery tool for ubuntu? [18:12] <erwyn> daftykins: but I don't have my desktop back :( [18:12] <daftykins> Ziber: i don't know how device management with macs works well enough to advise you sadly. which command is failing exactly? [18:12] <daftykins> erwyn: after a full reboot? [18:13] <Guest18463> Ill reboot and see what happens... [18:13] <Ziber> http://pastebin.com/4MgmF8uB [18:13] <Vyom> I spend my last month writing about Ubuntu and how to do stuff on it (for newbies coming from Windows) but I did that all on virtual ubuntu, and now this eff up happened! :'( [18:13] <erwyn> daftykins: I'm rebooting again just to be sure [18:13] <Guest18463> wish me luck :) [18:13] <ioria> Guest18463, install w8 mbr not gpt [18:14] <Ziber> daftykins: See my paste? http://pastebin.com/4MgmF8uB [18:14] <Vyom> Someone PLEASE help me.. I just lost my "life" while migrating to Ubuntu.. and if I can't recover data .. I am afriad that would leave very bad impression of Ubuntu [18:14] <daftykins> Ziber: yeah, can you share "diskutil list" too? [18:14] <ioria> Guest18463, on your pc you should't have uefi so... it's good ... but check for secure boot option in bios [18:14] <MonkeyDust> Vyom you should have made backups [18:14] <daftykins> Ziber: is maybe the GUI Disk Utility still open locking it? [18:14] <erwyn> daftykins: ah, I can still purge, relauching it [18:15] <Vyom> MonkeyDust: I have backup, but not for last few months [18:15] <Ziber> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/6M5KZHFU [18:15] <daftykins> Vyom: no idea of GUI data recovery, sorry. [18:16] <Guest18463> REBOOTING [18:16] <ioria> Vyom maybe you need 'phisical' assistance ... i mean a shop [18:16] <daftykins> Ziber: ah it's one of those U3 partition flash drives, i wonder if it's unhappy about that. i really don't have enough experience with OS X to advise i'm afraid... try unplugging, booting fresh, then trying again [18:17] <daftykins> Ziber: i suspect it's mounted or in use somewhere [18:17] <MonkeyDust> Vyom or paid professional assistance [18:17] <banshee> which package is responsible for the bar on the upper part of the screen? [18:17] <Vyom> ioria: thanks man.. looks like I messed up. No one can really help me. I would have to help myself. I would read a guide on internet about testdisk and will reover my data. [18:17] <Ziber> daftykins: hmmm [18:17] <banshee> that holds the shutdown icon, networking, etc [18:17] <ioria> Vyom best wishes and despair [18:17] <ioria> not despair [18:19] <erwyn> daftykins: Yeah I confirm that I still don't have anything but notifications and background. I can right click and so on. but I don't have title bar or side bar [18:20] <daftykins> erwyn: oh ok so it is there, just not a full GUI. can you switch to TTY1 and run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "lspci | pastebinit" - share the link here - and also for "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ? [18:21] <erwyn> daftykins: doing it right now [18:21] <Ziber> Oh, I figured it out. [18:21] <Ziber> Burning now :) [18:21] <Ziber> extremely slowlyt ho [18:21] <Ziber> *tho [18:22] <daftykins> well, copying - i sure hope a flash drive isn't using a laser to etch holes in a plastic disc [18:22] <ciju> Hi guys.How can I see whether I have installed cigc++-2.0 package on my system? [18:22] <daftykins> ;) [18:22] <daftykins> ciju: "dpkg -l | grep cigc" [18:22] <Ziber> yeah, sorry [18:22] <erwyn> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810223/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810229/ [18:22] <daftykins> if you're sure on that package name [18:22] <ikonia> ciju: just look in the package manager [18:22] <Ziber> is a 1m block size critical? [18:22] <ciju> daftykins: thanks [18:23] <ikonia> you'll see it either marked as installed or available for install, that will tell you [18:23] <daftykins> erwyn: is this a laptop? [18:23] <Thenewone> so this is very bad way to use ssh [18:23] <Thenewone> what is the secure way guys ? [18:23] <erwyn> not really. It is a all-in-one pc. But from a hardware point of view it looks like a laptop [18:23] <Thenewone> wrong channel [18:23] <ioria> cigc++ [18:24] <daftykins> erwyn: "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit" please [18:24] <erwyn> daftykins: not sent cause empty [18:25] <daftykins> erwyn: any result from "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" at all? [18:25] <ioria> !info libsigc++-2.0 [18:25] <erwyn> daftykins: I confirm [18:26] <daftykins> erwyn: do you have auto login on, or do you boot to the login screen? i'd test the guest session if the latter [18:26] <erwyn> daftykins: guest session is working [18:27] <erwyn> daftykins: was working with prime as well [18:28] <Ziber> oh that was easy [18:28] <daftykins> erwyn: oh ok, in that case there might just be something of your user configuration which has gone funny... here's the quick shotgun approach: logged in at the TTY as your user, not root, run "mv ~/.config ~/.config-old" then "sudo service lightdm restart" [18:28] <Bashing-om> Vyom: See: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15761/recover-data-like-a-forensics-expert-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/ <- written in a user-friendly way and introduces you to testdisk in a gentle way: , http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step // https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery . Hope this helps . [18:29] <erwyn> daftykins: okay it's back [18:30] <ali_> hi [18:30] <daftykins> erwyn: if you have any software program configurations, they'll be in ~/.config-old/program name here/ so you'd have to move them back if you want them :) [18:31] <daftykins> erwyn: what you could try to get a proper driver on then, is to run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 nvidia-prime nvidia-settings" [18:31] <ali_> anybody know how i can run cpp c++ files in terminal ? [18:32] <erwyn> daftykins: okay I'll try this thank you [18:32] <daftykins> np [18:32] <ioria> ali_ run the executive you mean ? [18:32] <ali_> no for programming [18:32] <ali_> no, for programmin [18:33] <ioria> ali_ in terminal you can write a program with text editor, compile, link and then execute with ./filename [18:34] <sjoshi> ali_: you can follow this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-compile-and-run-c-cplusplus-code-in-linux/ [18:34] <banshee> can someone help me out. kinda having serious problems here [18:35] <banshee> there is no sidebar, and ther eis no bar at the top of the screen [18:35] <ali_> like this : desktop$ ./file.cpp ??? [18:35] <sjoshi> ali_: please follow the the link that i have mentioned [18:36] <ali_> OK [18:36] <ioria> ali_ you cannot run a source file [18:37] <den_is_ok> hello [18:37] <ioria> ali_ you can run an executive after compilation [18:37] <ali_> @ioria @sjoshi : menas i need a compiler , gedit g++ is not compiler ?? [18:38] <ioria> ali_ sure it is [18:38] <sergio-br2> Are there a special reason why ubuntu does not install broadcom wifi drivers after you intall ubuntu? [18:38] <ioria> ali_ but i suggest the build utils [18:38] <den_is_ok> Is there anyone from Russia [18:39] <erwyn> daftykins: wow shit prime is working so much better that optirun… thanks for the help! [18:39] <ioria> ali_ sudo apt-get install build-essential [18:39] <ciju> Seems like I dont have this cigc++ installed anywhere.... I went to packages.ubuntu.com and downloaded Package "libsigc++-2.0-dev". When I try to install it I get is "Dependency is not satisfiable: libsigc++-2.0c2a(=2.2.2.2-1) [18:39] <sergio-br2> I mean, it gets the driver from the image, so you can access internet from the live DVD. But after install, you don't have the broadcom installed [18:39] <sergio-br2> it's just stupid, ihmo [18:40] <SchrodingersScat> !ru | den_is_ok [18:40] <ali_> @ioria i did it now [18:40] <daftykins> erwyn: np, enjoy :) and er... easy on the language ;) [18:40] <EriC^^> !info b43-fwcutter [18:40] <erwyn> daftykins: yes, sorry ;) [18:40] <den_is_ok> #ubuntu-ru [18:42] <ali_> thanks every body [18:44] <banshee> what ist he package that creates the sidebar? [18:44] <banshee> mine is missing [18:44] <ioria> sergio-br2, it depends ... it's proprietary [18:44] <sergio-br2> yeah, I know [18:45] <sergio-br2> but I don't have ethernet access [18:45] <ioria> sergio-br2, wifi or ethernet ? [18:45] <sergio-br2> so for me, it's just someway stupid this behavior [18:45] <sergio-br2> wifi [18:45] <ioria> sergio-br2, ok... STA then ... a moment [18:45] <sergio-br2> broadcom wifi, is what I need. And in the place I am, it's not possible to use ethernet [18:48] <bekks> sergio-br2: by "ethernet" you mean "cabled network"? [18:48] <sergio-br2> yeah, I don't have it, neither access where I am [18:49] <sergio-br2> so, my only option is wifi, which don't work [18:49] <bekks> Define "dont work" then pleas.e [18:49] <sergio-br2> ubuntu install should install this broadcom wifi, if you are using in the Live [18:50] <bekks> On the live, yes. But not on the system actually installed. [18:51] <gunnar> Sergio-br2: This probably has already been explained to you, but since the broadcom firmware is propriatary it's not legal for Canonical to distribute it with the distro. [18:51] <gunnar> But I understand how you feel :) [18:51] <ioria> sergio-br2, try sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source and then recheck the Additional Drivers [18:51] <EriC^^> sergio-br2: you can mount the live usb and use the file in pool/b/b43-fwcutter or so to install it [18:51] <bekks> ioria: that will not change anything. [18:51] <ioria> oh [18:51] <bekks> sergio-br2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [18:51] <EriC^^> if you don't have an internet connection [18:52] <sergio-br2> "it's not legal for Canonical to distribute it with the distro" [18:52] <ioria> sorry [18:52] <banshee> anyone...? [18:52] <sergio-br2> but it cames with the DVD iso... come on... [18:52] <ciju> exit [18:54] <daftykins> sergio-br2: best find a place you can / learn how to install the required packages from the disc then :) [18:55] <gunnar> Sergio-br2: Sorry I misunderstood, I mean to say that these drivers are closed source and therefor can not be updated or worked on by Canonical, so only broadcom handles that. [18:55] <zerowaitstate> sergio-br2: welcome to the insane world of patent and copyright law. [18:56] <sergio-br2> How can I use apt-get, without internet? [18:56] <sergio-br2> Ok, mount first [18:56] <EriC^^> sergio-br2: mount the live usb with sudo mount -o loop /dev/sr0 /mnt , then cd to pool/main/b/b43-fwcutter or so and type sudo dpkg -i b43-fwcutter....deb [18:57] <gunnar> sergia-br2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto [18:57] <EriC^^> */mnt/pool/main... [18:57] <gunnar> *sergio [18:58] <sergio-br2> "failed to setup loop device: No medium found" [18:59] <EriC^^> type lsblk and get your usb [18:59] <EriC^^> sorry sr0 is for the cd [18:59] <sergio-br2> i.e. /dev/sdb1 [19:00] <EriC^^> sergio-br2: yeah [19:01] <Ziber> What xen support does 14.04 have? [19:02] <matthew> hi
 sergio-br2: welcome to the insane world of patent and copyright law. [19:03] <sergio-br2> insane and stupid [19:03] <sergio-br2> ok, worked [19:04] <ovsjanij> test [19:04] <ovsjanij> What about https? [19:04] <daftykins> Ziber: the primary virt tech for ubuntu moved to KVM i think, Xen might've become a bit more neglected [19:06] <ovsjanij> test again [19:06] <ovsjanij> hi [19:06] <ovsjanij> hello [19:06] <ovsjanij> respect [19:06] <ovsjanij> say som [19:06] <ioria> ovsjanij, secure http, means with ssl [19:06] <daftykins> hi, do you have a support question? [19:06] <sohrab> can anyone help me out? [19:06] <daftykins> sohrab: not until you explain what is wrong [19:07] <ovsjanij> ok [19:07] <ovsjanij> what about ssl [19:07] <ovsjanij> ? [19:07] <sohrab> daftykins: the sidebar is missing, and the top menu bar is gone too [19:07] <ovsjanij> what about him [19:07] <sohrab> after a reinstall [19:07] <ioria> ovsjanij, the comunication server-client is encrypted [19:08] <bekks> ovsjanij: Whats your support question? [19:08] <daftykins> sohrab: reinstall, keeping /home - or totally blank? [19:08] <sohrab> daftykins: also, i deleted python3.4 the other day, and it removed a bunch of othe rprograms. i reinstalled them all. but after a restart i'm missing the sidebar and menu [19:08] <daftykins> sohrab: does the guest session work? [19:08] <sohrab> daftykins, sorry, i don't understand your question [19:08] <sohrab> daftykins: idk what that is. [19:08] <ovsjanij> ok. fine [19:09] <ovsjanij> thank you all [19:09] <ovsjanij> : ) : [19:09] <sohrab> i'm on the computer right now. it starts up, but it's difficult to open anything [19:09] <daftykins> sohrab: it's where you click 'guest session' on the login screen [19:09] <ioria> ovsjanij, try openssl [19:10] <sohrab> daftykins: should i try to start a guest session? i would need to restart (because the top menu bar doesn't exist -- i restart from the command line using ctrl-alt-f1) [19:10] <daftykins> sohrab: sure - if you get the login screen and don't have auto-login yep [19:11] <ovsjanij> please [19:11] <ovsjanij> give me something information [19:11] <ovsjanij> about [19:11] <ovsjanij> linux distr [19:11] <sohrab> daftykins, k, i can do that. what will it show? whether the same problem exists on the guest account? [19:11] <ovsjanij> for us [19:11] <bekks> ioria: We dont even know what he is going to do? [19:11] <ovsjanij> for me [19:11] <bekks> ovsjanij: "Ubuntu". [19:11] <daftykins> ovsjanij: please phrase a complete question on a single line if you want a response. [19:11] <ovsjanij> and for.. [19:11] <ioria> true [19:11] <daftykins> ovsjanij: stop pressing enter. it is spammy and irritating. [19:12] <ovsjanij> deinterlejsting [19:13] <ovsjanij> deindeterleisting, my friends [19:13] <daftykins> ovsjanij: you are making zero sense unfortunately [19:13] <bekks> ovsjanij: Whats your actual support question? [19:13] <jParkton> ovsjanij: what do you need information on? [19:14] <ovsjanij> about it. [19:14] <bekks> ovsjanij: About what? [19:14] <ovsjanij> about flash. [19:15] <bekks> ovsjanij: Whats your actual Ubuntu support question? [19:15] <gunnar> He's obviously trolling. Ignore. [19:15] <sohrab> daftykins, k, i can do that. what will it show? whether the same problem exists on the guest account? [19:16] <daftykins> sohrab: yes whether it's your user config or a system wide issue [19:16] <ovsjanij> What tipe of device you will develope? [19:17] <sohrab> daftykins, ok, thanks. will do that right now [19:17] <bazhang> ovsjanij, thats not on topic here [19:17] <ovsjanij> bazhang sorry [19:17] <bazhang> ovsjanij, this is ubuntu support only, take chat elsewhere [19:29] <Ziber> I tried installing bird, and it installed it, but the upstart script failed (it never seems to know what its own PID is). How can I get apt-get to stop giving me those errors? [19:30] <gunnar> Ziber: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto ? [19:30] <MonkeyDust> what's bird? [19:30] <Ziber> bird is a BGP daemon [19:30] <bekks> Ziber: And whats the message you get? [19:31] <Ziber> http://pastebin.com/xw3HHnXA [19:31] <streulma> hello I have the ASUS X205TA but sound is as expected not working it is rt5648 and is for the moment unsupported in kernel 4.0 rc7 [19:31] <streulma> other ones also has an X205TA ? [19:32] <TheBigDeal> Hello [19:32] <hroi> hi [19:32] <TheBigDeal> When does ubuntu 15.04 officially release? [19:32] <Ziber> bekks: Any idea? [19:32] <hroi> apt is not allowing me to install anything [19:32] <gunnar> Ziber, what about building from source? [19:32] <hroi> it says, E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). [19:33] <hroi> is that good advice? [19:33] <bekks> Ziber: Take a look at the script and find ou why it isnt starting up. [19:33] <bekks> gunnar: that will not magically fix the script. [19:33] <Ziber> bekks: It doesn't ever know its own pid. [19:34] <gunnar> bekks: I'm aware of that, was hoping the script aws in the source tarball to get him to take a look at it. [19:34] <Ziber> bird start/running, process 2223 [19:34] <Ziber> root@apollo:~# ps aux | grep bird [19:34] <Ziber> bird 2225 0.0 0.0 15344 2472 ? S 15:34 0:00 /usr/sbin/bird -f -u bird -g bird [19:34] <ioria> Ziber there was a reason to install this bird ? [19:34] <Ziber> I wouldn't install it if there wasn't a reason :) [19:35] <ioria> Ziber to test it ? [19:35] <Ziber> I'm playing with it on the DN42 network [19:36] <gunnar> and who knows the script could possibly be ok in the tarball, and not in the repos. Stranger things have happened :) [19:37] <ioria> !info bird [19:39] <__martin__> how to turn off ALR key GRAB by Unity the quickest way? thanks [19:39] <sohrab> daftykins: good call. logging in as a guest user solves the problem [19:40] <__martin__> how to turn off ALR key GRAB by Unity the quickest way? thanks [19:40] <__martin__> ALT* [19:40] <Ziber> No ideas about bird then? [19:40] <daftykins> sohrab: but if you switch back to your normal user, is it still causing trouble? if so, open a terminal or hit ctrl+alt+F1 and login, then try "mv ~/.config ~/.configold" for a test [19:41] <gunnar> Ziber: Just for my peace of mind, could you try building bird from source? [19:42] <sohrab> daftykins, k, gonna do that now, thanks [19:42] <Ziber> gunnar: Yeah, I suppose. I'm looking at the upstart script first ho [19:42] <Ziber> *tho [19:42] <daftykins> sohrab: bear in mind it will 'hide' all your softwares settings, but you can move the contents of .configold back one by one to resolve that [19:42] <gunnar> Ziber: Cool [19:43] <sohrab> daftykins, i dont understand [19:44] <sohrab> daftykins: i just typed the command. it just goes blank and returns to thsi guest session [19:44] <Ziber> is start-stop-daemon a global thing? [19:44] <daftykins> sohrab: make sure you ran it as your user and not as the guest, then restart, log in as your user and the desktop should work as normal [19:45] <sohrab> daftykins, was i supposed to do the opposite? mv ~/.configold ~/.config? [19:46] <daftykins> sohrab: nope [19:46] <sohrab> daftykins, okay, i understand. will restart now [19:47] <ioria> Ziber i had no problem to install it [19:47] <Ziber> via apt? [19:47] <__martin__> got it [19:47] <ioria> Ziber yep [19:48] <Ziber> does the output of its pid (when restarting it) match ps aux | grep bird? [19:48] <ioria> Ziber 5299 ? 00:00:00 bird [19:48] <ioria> 5342 ? 00:00:00 bird6 [19:49] <Ziber> That didn't answer my question. [19:49] <sohrab> daftykins: no luck. [19:49] <ioria> Ziber yes ... [19:49] <Ziber> Well, I purged it and reinstalled it. No change. [19:50] <daftykins> sohrab: just to be sure, when you ran the mv command i mentioned - was it in a terminal inside the guest session (GUI) ? [19:50] <yaclm> Hello! My laptop lags after startup and there is a huge delay for mouse and keyboard inputs. htop shows 50% cpu load (kernel) but doesn't show which command causes this huge load. any hints, keywords, solutions? [19:50] <ioria> Ziber http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810844/ [19:51] <sohrab> daftykins: no it wasn't it was inside the other session (my normal one) using ctrl-alt-f1 [19:51] <bekks> yaclm: Show us a pastebin of "top" please. [19:51] <gunnar> Ziber: I just tried to install bird too, I got the same error as you. [19:51] <Ziber> Huh. [19:51] <Ziber> ioria: what OS? [19:51] <ioria> Ziber utopic [19:51] <daftykins> sohrab: ah good good, so you saw "myusername@computername:~# " before you ran it? [19:52] <sohrab> daftykins: yes [19:52] <Ziber> ioria: 14.04? [19:53] <ioria> Ziber no.. 10 [19:53] <Ziber> Okay, so difference. [19:53] <daftykins> sohrab: definitely the standard unity desktop yeah? [19:53] <yaclm> bekks, this problem lasts for about 1 minute after startup in ~3/5 times. I will try to reproduce the problem and pastebin it. on Debian 7.8 htop showed a kworker thread causing 50% load, ubuntu shows nothing. [19:53] <ioria> Ziber 3.16.0-34-generic [19:54] <Ziber> ioria: can you just paste your upstart script? [19:54] <sohrab> daftykins: i think so. don't remember changing anything. [19:54] <bekks> yaclm: So show us a "top" output, not a "htop" one :) [19:54] <sohrab> daftykins: i deleted python a few days ago, and i think i reinstalled it properly, could that be it? [19:55] <sohrab> daftykins: so, before i did that, i screwed around with a setting to get past a python bug. i think i set an environmental variable or soemthing [19:55] <daftykins> sohrab: not if it looks and behaves fine in the guest session, nah [19:55] <daftykins> sohrab: hrmm i don't know if unity uses python, wouldn't hurt to try and reverse it [19:56] <yaclm> bekks, top doesn't show anything, too, but give me a minute i will try to reproduce the problem and save top's output. [19:56] <sohrab> daftykins: ok. maybe it's that variable i changed? i think i tried to start python as 2.7 (vs the 3.4 version that i had installed) [19:56] <ioria> Ziber /etc/init.d/ no ? [19:56] <sohrab> daftykins: where is it stored? [19:56] <daftykins> sohrab: no clue i'm afraid [19:56] <Ziber> ioria: yes. [19:56] <sohrab> daftykins: okay, thank you for your help [19:56] <Anonymauz> anyone can help to troubleshoot a weird thing with layouts? [19:58] <ioria> Ziber please, give me the name... :-( [19:58] <Ziber> ioria: bired [19:58] <Ziber> *bird [19:58] <Anonymauz> i am using kubuntu 15.04, i have en and ru keyboard layouts. When i switch to another window or press Enter in browser text edit field - my layout switches to default(en_US). I have "Global switching policy" in keyboard settings. What's wrong with it? [19:58] <ioria> Ziber bird and bird6 ... [19:58] <ioria> coming [19:59] <ActionParsnip> Anonymauz: #ubuntu+1 for Vivid support [19:59] <ioria> Ziber http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810909/ [20:00] <ubx2> hello [20:00] <ActionParsnip> Hi ubx2 [20:00] <ioria> Ziber http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810914/ [20:03] <ubx2> i have a hundreds of virtual servers around the world and i'm looking to build my own backup solution. most of the servers are deployed using automation so only a few things need to be backed up like clients website files etc to remote object storage (s3/google). should i build an application that remotely connects to each server and rsyncs the relevant files or do i let each machine back itself up? [20:04] <ActionParsnip> ubx2: what storage do they sit on (hoping netapp) [20:04] <daftykins> ubx2: probably a better question for #linux in general, not ubuntu support. [20:04] <gunnar> Ziber: I just downloaded and built from the sources, that worked without problems and htop reports correct PID. [20:04] <compdoc> backintime is nice. rsync is nice, but you'll ahve to create crons [20:04] <compdoc> what size is your storage? [20:05] <gunnar> Ziber: That's at least one solution, just build from source. [20:05] <bekks> ubx2: That application is already invented, and its names are bacula or backuppc, e.g. [20:06] <Ziber> gunnar: could probably just use that upstart script [20:06] <ioria> Ziber hodně štěstí [20:06] <gunnar> Ziber: Or that, just wanted to let you know it works. :) [20:06] <ActionParsnip> bekks: if it's netapp then it's even easier :-) [20:06] <bekks> ActionParsnip: I thought he is using a storage, not some toy :> [20:07] <ioria> Ziber tak ahoj [20:07] <gunnar> Ziber: You'll need flex, bison and libreadline-dev to build from sources though. [20:08] <ioria> Ziber i mean good luck with that [20:08] <gunnar> iroria: Means to say good luck and bye? [20:08] <gunnar> iroria: :-D [20:08] <ioria> yep you too gunnar :-) [20:09] <gunnar> don't want to go offtopic again. I got yelled at. So.. kewl? :P [20:10] <Ziber> nah, the upstart script still has the wrong one. [20:11] <gunnar> Ziber: Strange, like I said I built from source and used the startscript from the tarball, no problems on this end. [20:11] <ActionParsnip> bekks: have you used netapp. It rocks [20:12] <gunnar> Ziber: Maybe just ditch the apt-get version and build from source and use that? [20:12] <Ziber> :/ [20:12] <Ziber> where'd you get the source? [20:12] <bekks> ActionParsnip: I did. I dont like them. [20:12] <gunnar> one moment [20:12] <ActionParsnip> bekks: gotcha [20:12] <gunnar> Ziber: http://bird.network.cz/?download [20:12] <Ziber> ty [20:13] <gunnar> np [20:16] <peti> hello [20:16] <GeHa> hello [20:17] <hkrrsx> morning again [20:18] <Ziber> It didn't, uh, make a start script? [20:20] <daftykins> hkrrsx: wb [20:20] <hkrrsx> daftykins: ty [20:20] <Ziber> where's the start script? [20:21] <_kristof> hi! is there a guide for beginners installing ubuntu _server_ ? [20:21] <gunnar> Ziber: Don't need one, just set params in the conf /etc/bird.conf and your ports in bird.ctl [20:21] <_kristof> (and configuring) [20:22] <gunnar> ubuntu server guide? [20:22] <Ziber> See, that doesn't solve my problem at all :) [20:22] <_kristof> oh I just found the #ubuntu-server channel [20:22] <gunnar> Ziber: I'm sorry to have failed you. [20:22] <jnollette> hello, how do i install from a default package, i want to roll back [20:22] <gunnar> Ziber: I tried at least [20:22] <Ziber> Thought someone set something about the start script? [20:23] <gunnar> ioria is responsible... [20:24] <dzan> hi, is there a way to get the minimal image for the daily build? [20:25] <hkrrsx> dzan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [20:27] <dzan> hkrrsx: yes I saw those but i'm looking for the bleeding edge version [20:29] <hkrrsx> dzan: Sorry, I can find the mini images and the 15.04 daily builds but not a daily build of the mini image [20:30] <Bashing-om> dzan: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso (??). Be aware it is a download . [20:30] <OerHeks> dzan, take the daily server http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/20150411/ fits on cd [20:34] <dzan> OerHeks: ok thx guess that's the way to go, just read there are no mini's made for the daily [20:35] <OerHeks> Yes, also daily netboot AFAIK [20:35] <BobbyJenkins> Hello, I currently have a 3 monitor desktop PC running Ubuntu 14.04. When I play any video online, it always displays it on the wrong monitor, and when I click on something on my other monitors while it is playing the video, it minimizes itself. Any way to resolve these issues? [20:36] <Guest82262> @BobyJenkins, what does your GPU setup look like? [20:37] <azizLIGHT> anyone use a weather indicator? which one do you use? i tried my-weather-indicator but it really doesnt work for me and crashes. [20:38] <k1l> azizLIGHT: that works here like it should [20:38] <BobbyJenkins> It is the AMD Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB [20:39] <poz> hi guys, ummm what is that audio software which allows you to adjust things like the auto power off [20:39] <azizLIGHT> k1l: when i click "Search Location" it crashes for me after a long freeze [20:39] <poz> my speaks are flipping out. turning on and off non stop [20:39] <poz> speakers* [20:39] <azizLIGHT> k1l: not being able to pick the location, i get the wrong weather. [20:39] <werbett> Alguém... [20:39] <hkrrsx> poz: Are you sure it's a software-related issue? [20:40] <werbett> que fale português [20:40] <k1l> !pt | werbett [20:40] <poz> hkrrsx, your still here! guess what! I made ubuntu stick to fix my plymouth issue and when I tryed to boot up, my computer worked! [20:40] <hkrrsx> Magnificent! [20:41] <BobbyJenkins> is the GPU not compatible with Ubuntu? It is a pretty powerful GPU... [20:41] <azizLIGHT> k1l: is it because i have some kind of location api or something disabled in my ubuntu install. where do i adjust such a thing, if it exists [20:41] <k1l> azizLIGHT: try to see in the logs what happens. and what ubuntu are you on exactly? what version of myweather indocator etc? [20:41] <poz> but now I am having this speaker issue. and no, it might not be software, but I typically have this issue on fresh installs and it is fixed by turning off the auto power off off [20:41] <azizLIGHT> k1l: im on 14.04 x64 and this is the latest 0.6.9 indicator [20:42] <hkrrsx> poz: Perhaps you mean Power Management? To disable turning off of the monitor and hard drive? [20:43] <poz> no, thats not it [20:43] <hkrrsx> poz: http://linux.die.net/man/8/apmd ? [20:44] <k1l> azizLIGHT: well, "it works for me". so without logs its hard to tell what is going wrong [20:44] <poz> alsamixer, thats what i was looking for [20:45] <sohrab> where can i find user configuration stuff? i have one user whose session doesn't work correctly. the guest user session works normally [20:46] <poz> well it got rid of all of the crackleing, but now I dont hear anything [20:46] <EriC^^> sohrab: ~/.config ~/.cache ~/.gconf [20:46] <hkrrsx> poz: Try changing the sound card with F6 and playing with those settings ? [20:47] <sohrab> EriC^^: thank you. is the guest user's config saved anywhere? [20:48] <poz> thats what I am doing now [20:48] <hkrrsx> poz: Good work [20:48] <EriC^^> sohrab: probably in /tmp/guest-something i think [20:48] <sohrab> is it a bad idea to reset a user's settings? [20:49] <EriC^^> sohrab: depends on what he has configured [20:49] <azizLIGHT> k1l: i think openweathermap is giving me wrong weather [20:49] <azizLIGHT> k1l: like 10 degrees off... [20:49] <EriC^^> sohrab: programs that autostart are in ~/.config/autostart [20:49] <k1l> well, i use the yahoo one. just try and error what works best for your location [20:49] <EriC^^> so you might want to copy whatever .desktop files are in there, and other stuff depending on the user [20:50] <EriC^^> sohrab: ^ [20:51] <Guest45909> exit [20:52] <azizLIGHT> k1l: when i switch to the yahoo service, the log just shows it looking up my location and just waiting and not doing anyhting, while the dialog box is stuck [20:52] <azizLIGHT> wierd [20:52] <azizLIGHT> and the url its looking up does give a response [20:52] <s41l0r> hi, i accidently did a "mv *" now all files from that directory are gone. is there any chance to get them back? [20:52] <azizLIGHT> in my browser [20:52] <k1l> azizLIGHT: do you try automatic location? what if you just set the location? [20:52] <azizLIGHT> im trying to set location. i havent tried auto [20:52] <azizLIGHT> will try that now [20:52] <MonkeyDust> s41l0r where did you move them to? [20:52] <poz> hkrrsx, I think it might be hardware this time. a problem with my motherboard... I plugged my speakers into the front jack and now it works [20:53] <s41l0r> MonkeyDust: I dont know I did not set any target just "mv *" [20:53] <azizLIGHT> auto on yahoo also off by 5 degrees [20:53] <hkrrsx> poz: You're quickly becoming a master troubleshooter :) [20:53] <azizLIGHT> will try wunderground now.. [20:54] <sohrab> EriC^^: k, thanks. ugh this is complicated [20:54] <poz> hkrrsx, i am just afraid to reboot my computer now... it might not turn back on! [20:54] <connewagon> Hi guys .. I set up a Ubuntu VM using VMWare on my desktop, and I'm running irssi on that [20:54] <connewagon> I connected to this server comfortably, but when I try some other ones it doesn't work [20:54] <azizLIGHT> k1l: it keeps putting me in Potwin, KS when i do auto [20:55] <hkrrsx> poz: Understandable but it's gotta be rebooted eventually .... might as well find out now [20:55] <hkrrsx> poz: You can always get back here from another computer [20:55] <connewagon> it says "Connection refused", though it works from windows [20:55] <connewagon> any ideas ? [20:55] <azizLIGHT> k1l: is there some location thing i disabled in ubuntu... [20:55] <k1l> azizLIGHT: dont know [20:56] <poz> haha yeah, I will soon. I just have a few things to do on here first [20:56] <gunnar> connewagon: I'm using irssi too, no problems connecting to to other servers here. Are you sure you type the address correctly? [20:57] <connewagon> yeah .. Specifically i'm trying to connect to twitch and Quakenet [20:57] <azizLIGHT> k1l: ok i got it lol [20:57] <gunnar> hmmm... [20:57] <azizLIGHT> thank god [20:57] <connewagon> Quakenet is setup by default, so it should work when I run "/connect QuakeNet" [20:58] <MonkeyDust> connewagon if those channels are on freenode, you shoud better ask in #freenode [20:58] <gunnar> try "/connect blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org" [20:59] <gunnar> MonkeyDust: He can't connect to the servers... [20:59] <MonkeyDust> gunnar yes, i misread... [20:59] <gunnar> MonkeyDust: Happens to the best of us :P [21:00] <connewagon> 13:59 [blacklotus] -!- Irssi: Looking up blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org [21:00] <connewagon> 13:59 [blacklotus] -!- Irssi: Connecting to blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org [208.64.121.85] port 6667 [21:00] <connewagon> 13:59 -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org port 6667 [Connection refused] [21:00] <gunnar> Connewagon: Weird... [21:00] <gunnar> brb [21:00] <connewagon> When i connect to ubuntu's irc, I got a message like "couldn't find hostname" or similar [21:01] <connewagon> not sure if the other servers are kicking me out early [21:01] <connewagon> because of some misconfiguration [21:01] <poz> does anyone know the best temperature monitor for cpu and gpu? preferably with a gui? psensor works good, but i am wondering if there is one with a nice smooth curvy line like the sexy process monitor cpu usage one [21:01] <gunnar> Well I just tried connecting to blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org, and all is well. [21:02] <c^> Unlikely, it sounds like it's just bouncing your connections connewagon. Try connecting from another IP? [21:02] <hkrrsx> connewagon: Try connecting to port 7070 ? [21:02] <connewagon> hkrrsx: giving it a shot [21:03] <OnkelTem> Hi! Would you recommend a reader for Linux with a click-to-translate feature? [21:03] <gunnar> have to set your local hostname? [21:03] <c^> It's either the endpoint bouncing your connections (unlikely), the route not completing (highly unlikely), a misconfiguration on your client not allowing connections outbound (likely) or some DNS-related issue. [21:03] <connewagon> umm .. how do i specify the port in irssi when i do /connect or such ? [21:04] <gunnar> connewagon: Hostname issues are generally cause by DNS server problems [21:04] <gunnar> one moment [21:04] <connewagon> I have set the hostname for the VM, but nothing at irssi level [21:04] <c^> ./connect <IP> (+)<PORT> [21:04] <OnkelTem> connewagon: use weechat (sorry for this offtopic) [21:04] <hkrrsx> c^: +1 [21:04] <OnkelTem> connewagon: or /j irrsi [21:04] <anothermoron> lol weechat [21:04] <anothermoron> no thanks [21:04] <jiohdi> OnkelTem, calibre [21:05] <connewagon> 14:04 [blacklotus2] -!- Irssi: Looking up blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org [21:05] <connewagon> 14:04 [blacklotus2] -!- Irssi: Reconnecting to blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org [208.64.121.85] port 6667 - use /RMRECONNS to abort [21:05] <OnkelTem> anothermoron: this is a personal choice. But I switched to weechat after 5 years on irssi [21:05] <connewagon> 14:04 [blacklotus2] -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org port 6667 [Connection refused] [21:05] <connewagon> oops .. wrong version .. but got same message for port 7070 too [21:05] <OnkelTem> connewagon: please don't. Ask irrsi questions on their channel [21:05] <c^> goto #irrsi [21:05] <OnkelTem> jiohdi: thanks, gonna check it out [21:06] <YvesLevier> Bonjour, [21:06] <YvesLevier> Branchez vous librement aux canaux du Levier : [21:06] <YvesLevier> Levier,Plantes,P'tit-Bonheur,MineCraft-des-sources,Covoiturage,Politique,Vaches,Minetest-qc,Echanges et aMuleLevier [21:06] <YvesLevier> Ces canaux peuvent également vous être utiles : Ubuntu,Ubuntu-Qc,Minetest,Minetest-fr [21:06] <connewagon> OnkelTem: Good point, I'll test this with weechat. If it works with that, I'll know its an irssi question [21:06] <c^> hm [21:06] <OnkelTem> connewagon: I didn't say this doesn't work in irssi. Irrsi is quite good [21:06] <c^> try tunneling the connection through a proxy to check if it's just rejecting your IP [21:07] <c^> Personally, I hate irssi [21:07] <c^> ZNC is where it's at ;) [21:07] <OnkelTem> weechat! :) [21:07] <OnkelTem> weeeee [21:07] <c^> Egh, not my cup of tea [21:07] <c^> ZNC + HexChat [21:07] <connewagon> OnkelTem: I'm quite used to irssi to change too. And weechat doesn't seem to work either for quakenet [21:08] <connewagon> c^: Let me give that a shot [21:08] <c^> Hang on.. weechat didn't work either [21:08] <OnkelTem> c^: I don't know about them, so can't say really. Maybe if I try, I find it very nice [21:08] <c^> Tried connecting to freenode from that same client? [21:09] <connewagon> c^: Just tried connecting to chat.freenode.net, and it doesn't seem to work either [21:10] <c^> DNS [21:10] <c^> cough cough [21:10] <c^> try ping chat.freenode.net in a console [21:10] <c^> and ping google.com [21:10] <gunnar> from the VM [21:10] <OnkelTem> connewagon: don't like to be nerdy, but again #weechat can help :) [21:10] <c^> OnkelTem > this is just a DNS issue [21:10] <c^> No need to push the conversation into another off-topic channel [21:11] <OnkelTem> ah, didn't read :) [21:11] <OnkelTem> So, now to calibre [21:11] <connewagon> ping works for fine [21:11] <connewagon> for all the servers [21:12] <c^> o.o [21:12] <connewagon> quakenet, freenode, google, everything! [21:12] <hkrrsx> connewagon: Have you been banned from that channel? [21:12] <c^> wut [21:12] <hkrrsx> s/channel/server [21:12] <c^> all of them hkrrsx? [21:12] <connewagon> hkrrsx: i double i've been banned in ALL of them [21:12] <c^> yeah, no [21:12] <gunnar> connewagon: What abiut the dns settings in the VM, have you checked them? or are u just using NAT? [21:12] <connewagon> i tried both bridged, and NAT [21:12] <connewagon> and bridged was working last week, today that stopped working too [21:13] <gunnar> unique.. [21:13] <c^> ._. indeed [21:13] <connewagon> i wonder if i look like im using a proxy server or something [21:13] <c^> It wouldn't stop you still [21:13] <c^> Eh, this is a unique issue [21:14] <c^> Need to head off, sorry I couldn't help more [21:14] <c^> But yeah, looks like some kind of resolution issue [21:14] <connewagon> c^: Sure! [21:14] <connewagon> Yeah .. [21:14] <c^> Try connecting with IPs instead of hostnames [21:14] <c^> that'll eliminate any DNS issues [21:15] <connewagon> ill give that a shot [21:15] <gunnar> connewagon: http://forums.mirc.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1372&site_id=1#import [21:15] <gunnar> Scroll down to connection refused and cechk if anything there is applicable to you. [21:15] <connewagon> that seems to make sense [21:15] <connewagon> maybe im connecting to an old ip [21:16] <connewagon> looks promising [21:16] <gunnar> connewagon: I hope it helps [21:16] <OnkelTem> I'm mighty. I've downloaded THE BLACK LIBRARY. [21:16] <connewagon> me too! [21:17] <OnkelTem> hehe [21:17] <connewagon> no :( [21:17] <daftykins> please try and keep it to support only, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :) [21:17] <OnkelTem> sorry [21:17] <connewagon> sorry! [21:17] <hkrrsx> connewagon: You said the problem is on a guest virtual machine ..... does the host machine have this same problem ? [21:18] <connewagon> it didn't last week .. I haven't tried this week [21:18] <connewagon> Let me give it a shot [21:18] <hkrrsx> Please [21:18] <gunnar> hkrrsx: all yours, going back to Dilbert. [21:18] <hkrrsx> gunnar: lol thanks for your help [21:19] <gunnar> :P [21:19] <connewagon> :D Thanks for the help gunnar, hkrrsx: I join #ubuntu-offtopic so we dont take over the channel! [21:21] <hkrrsx> connewagon: It's a little too late for that but I'd say either /join #irssi or /join #weechat respectively [21:21] <hkrrsx> :) [21:21] <connewagon> Trying that too ! [21:21] <hkrrsx> Additionally, I do not believe your issue to be DNS related since the connection properly resolved blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org to 208.64.121.85 [21:22] <hkrrsx> I got the same IP when I did DNS resolution a couple of minutes ago [21:22] <hkrrsx> I think this is either a client configuration issue or possibly a network-related issue since you're working from a virtual machine (?) [21:24] <connewagon> Yeah .. it worked fine on the host machine, so its somewhere else before it even comes to irssi [21:24] <mudtar> I'm having some trouble with wireless networking on my Lenovo ideapad Z710 (LENOVO_MT_20250). My wireless interface is an Intel Wireless 7260. While booting, I see the message "[ 22.385290] ideapad_laptop: timeout in write_ec_cmd". (What is the name of the log/stream that this message is a part of, for future reference?) Then "Waiting for network configuration..." and finally "Booting system without full network configuration..." Up [21:24] <mudtar> on logging in with Gnome 3, Gnome Network Manager yeilds "The system network services are not compatible with this verison." About five minutes later, connectivity resumes as normal and I am able to connect to my network. I am trying to sort out what's going on via dmesg, but I can't put all the pieces together myself. [21:25] <connewagon> hkrrsx: I think I'm going to call it a day and figure this out later .. Thanks for the help everyone :) I'll post back if I figure something out [21:25] <hkrrsx> connewagon: We'll be here :) [21:25] <hkrrsx> Best of luck [21:27] <connewagon> thanks! :) [21:27] <gunnar> mudtar: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/platform/x86/ideapad-laptop.c#L183 [21:27] <gunnar> maybe this can help. [21:27] <gunnar> Seems to be related to ACPI [21:28] <mudtar> gunnar, thanks for finding that. I'll take a look. [21:29] <mudtar> For what it's worth, this was all working fine on a prior 14.04 installation. I then tried to install Debian, ran into some (at the time) insurmountable networking problems and installed this instance of Ubuntu again. Don't know what could be all that different. [21:30] <OnkelTem> jiohdi: thank you! Calibre is exactly what I was looking for [21:31] <grill> hey. is it possible to mount a directory contained within a device (which would prevent users from seeing other parts of the mounted device) [21:31] <codepython777> I've a machine on which there is an executable that runs at startup (uwsgi). How do i find out who started the process? Its not in rc.local [21:33] <mudtar> gunnar, I have a vague grasp of what ACPI is and how it might interface with this network interface issue. I'll continue reading about it. Might you be able to point me in the right direction about a place to start in perhaps finding the fail point of ACPI that triggered this timeout? [21:33] <gunnar> mudtar: Sorry bud, I lack the knowledge. [21:33] <mudtar> No prob. Thanks for your valuable input! [21:34] <gunnar> mudtar: Anytime [21:34] <jiohdi> OnkelTem, (^_^) [21:35] <hkrrsx> codepython777: Try running " sudo grep -r uwsgi /etc/rc.* " and hopefully, you'll find that script [21:35] <MoPac> Hello. Is there any way within a running Ubuntu session to check the status of my CMOS unit or battery? I have suddently encountered a condition where my laptop's power is cut instantly when AC is disconnected (even under suspend), and a CMOS checksum error shows up on boot. [21:35] <hkrrsx> codepython777: If it's being run at startup, it's most likely being run by root [21:36] <MoPac> Come to think of it, I don't even know if an issue solely with the CMOS battery could cause the machine to be unable to continue on normal battery power without AC... [21:38] <amazonian> Hey guys. Something happened when I tried to upgrade ubuntu. Couldn't boot. So I chose my last kernel and booted into it. [21:38] <amazonian> How do I remove the newest kernel and try upgrading again? [21:38] <hkrrsx> codepython777: Additionally, you could run " ps aux | grep uwsgi " and that'll give you plenty of details about the process if it's currently running [21:38] <daftykins> MoPac: doesn't sound ubuntu related, don't think i've seen a CMOS battery go in a laptop in fact [21:39] <daftykins> i would think it'd only fail to power on if the battery were faulty [21:39] <MoPac> daftykins: I'm wondering if the OS has any utilities that could help diagnose [21:39] <daftykins> no [21:39] <gunnar> amazonian: cd to /boot/ and delete all the files named after the newer kernel version. [21:40] <amazonian> gunnar: thanks [21:40] <gunnar> np [21:40] <MoPac> Maybe something in the OS I could use to exclude the main battery or charging circuit as the culprit? [21:40] <amazonian> gunnar: 3.13.0-49 is the newest version? [21:40] <ZeloZelos> still trying to get a dell dimension 3000 to run ubuntu. it is having a display issue. it appears the driver is the culprit? can anyone confirm/advise? i am currently dl'n xubuntu, maybe xfce will work [21:41] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: there have likely been a hundred different 3000 series models, we can't know the hardware spec :) [21:41] <ZeloZelos> IF i was to track down a driver that works for it's card, how do i install it if i cannot see what i am doing? [21:41] <gunnar> amazonian: Only you know that. A safe bet is to do uname -r and just keep the files on /boot/ that aren't named after the current kernel version you're running. [21:41] <ZeloZelos> good point daftykins i dont even know however ..i should figure that out though huh ;) [21:42] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: slow down. you think there's a graphics driver issue? what's the graphics hardware? [21:42] <mudtar> gunnar, is it not best when uninstalling a prior kernel to do it through the package manager? [21:42] <amazonian> gunnar: thanks [21:42] <ZeloZelos> looking it up right now daftykins [21:42] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: can you reach a TTY after booting? or have you been unable to install? [21:43] <ZeloZelos> all i see is a blank screen, the numlock turns on and off and it appears to be running (hd light flashes sometimes) [21:43] <Layl> heya, I'm trying to set up ubuntu on my existing windows box, but the dual boot guide seems woefully out of date, not at all reflecting the current installer [21:43] <Layl> I'm hitting this screen and I've got no idea what to do from here http://i.imgur.com/930ErYI.jpg [21:43] <gunnar> mudtar: Yes it's safer. [21:43] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: hmm could be bad media, DVD or USB flash drive? [21:43] <ZeloZelos> what? [21:44] <daftykins> Layl: looks like you're trying to install to an intel fakeRAID set of disks [21:44] <gunnar> mudtar: But I'm thinking since he upgraded the entire system, it's problematic to roll back that entire process, so it's a simpler solution to just manually removing the other kernel version.. I think.. [21:44] <ZeloZelos> it has xp, everything is running fine. did a install of ubuntu, edubuntu, kubuntu and the one with gnome, no display [21:44] <Layl> daftykins, I have a RAID setup yea [21:44] <daftykins> Layl: i would not continue there without a full backup :) [21:44] <daftykins> here be dragons! [21:45] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: tried booting with nomodeset? [21:45] <Layl> I do not have any data that would be more than a minor annoyance if lost [21:45] <daftykins> !raid [21:45] <mudtar> gunnar, that makes sense. But it would only be the kernel package that he'd be uninstalling, yeah? As I understand, it's impossible to roll back a whole set up upgraded packages as one process. [21:45] <daftykins> Layl: might be something of use there, i think you need to install something prior to running install. [21:45] <ZeloZelos> daftykins, what is nomodeset? [21:45] <daftykins> !nomodeset | ZeloZelos [21:46] <EriC^^> mudtar: gunnar yeah he'd only be uninstalling the kernels [21:46] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.something [21:46] <ZeloZelos> thank you i will try it too, still looking up those parts [21:46] <EriC^^> wasn't he asking about booting the old ones though or did i misread? [21:46] <gunnar> EriC^^: Thanks for clarifying. :) [21:47] <Layl> so, what do I do from here daftykins? [21:47] <mudtar> EriC^^, he was asking about uninstalling a messed up kernel so that he could try to install again. [21:47] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: i'd just boot to a working shell, run "lspci" and see the actual hardware first hand :) or boot XP and read it in device manager [21:47] <gunnar> He already booted from the old one. [21:47] <omosoj> hi all, i have a weird problem. one of the users' settings is screwed up and their session doesn't have the eclipse side bar, nor the top menu bar, (among other things). [21:47] <daftykins> Layl: read the links [21:47] <EriC^^> oh ok [21:48] <gunnar> I was just worried about the update approach he chose, so I thought it would be best to just remove the messed up kernel from /boot/ and start fresh. [21:48] <Layl> this is quite the annoyance, I was really hoping for a quick 20 minutes install [21:48] <mudtar> What is the cleanest way to find a list of all installed kernels? [21:48] <daftykins> Layl: not given your systems RAID config, that's what we call an exotic mess :) [21:48] <bekks> mudtar: dpkg -l | grep linux-image [21:49] <mudtar> Thanks, bekks. [21:49] <Layl> gonna guess there's no easy how-to step by step guide for it [21:51] <EriC^^> mudtar: dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/ $2 ~ /linux-image/ {print$2}' that's pretty clean [21:51] <gunnar> I personally build my kernel from source and tailor it to my system, one can learn tons in a very short time by doing that. [21:51] <EriC^^> ( or anal ) [21:51] <gunnar> lol [21:51] <ZeloZelos> ok got it, its the intel 82865g graphics controller [21:52] <mudtar> EriC^^, that is nice'n clean. I should really take the time to better figure out awk. [21:52] <ZeloZelos> i wish i could just leave xp on it, but of course, its completely vulnerable now [21:52] <gunnar> Yes awk is a gem. [21:54] <mudtar> gunnar, what do you call the class of "things" that Linux/drivers/platform/x86/ideapad-laptop.c belongs to? Is this a kernel module? [21:54] <ZeloZelos> i plan on giving it to someone, so i cannot do a lot of mods/tweaks that will require fixing or are less reliable, i wanted an out-of-box fix ;( [21:55] <gunnar> mudtar: Part of one yes, this is the raw c source file for several modules. [21:55] <gunnar> at least in the link I sent you. [21:57] <ZeloZelos> the nomodeset looks promising, i will reinstall ubuntu again and try that out, thank you daftykins [21:58] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: hang on, your install media boots fine then? no issues at that point? [21:58] <ZeloZelos> nope [21:58] <ZeloZelos> it all is perfect [21:58] <Beast> Anyone remember a firewall front end that was available a few years ago, from an ppa repo that was very extreme to the point where a user could easily block internet connectivity if he didn't know what he was doing. Wasn't GUFW [21:58] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: try installing with "updates from online" disabled, if you get me [21:58] <daftykins> should be a tickbox / just by keeping it offline [21:59] <Beast> It was firewalling for the extremely paranoid. [21:59] <ZeloZelos> i did that, it actually is connected via usb-wireless card, so it is not available durring install (i take it out) [21:59] <mudtar> gunnar, how does the structure of the code correspond to the structure of a module? For example, is each function in the file you linked me to a module? Or does the file itself compile into a single module? Or is it part of a module composed of the C source in its parent directory? Perhaps the question is misguided. [22:00] <hkrrsx> Beast: http://alternativeto.net/software/gufw/?platform=linux [22:00] <ZeloZelos> daftykins, can i use this option durring live mode? [22:00] <gunnar> mudtar: it's probably best to tink of it as a large tree, with each defined function acting like a branch. You don't have to use all the branches. [22:00] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: yes, but it's only if the live session doesn't boot up to desktop properly [22:01] <Beast> hkrrsx: thanks will have a looksy [22:01] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: the existing install can have it added easy [22:01] <gunnar> Well I'm off for some ZzzZZz's [22:01] <hkrrsx> Beast: Might I also point your research towards Snort IDS (intrusion detection system) [22:01] <gunnar> Good night all [22:01] <hkrrsx> gunnar: Night [22:01] <mudtar> Thanks for all your help, gunnar. Good night. [22:02] <Beast> hkrrsx: ok [22:02] <ZeloZelos> daftykins, i already removed it in frustration, and let it idle for like a week till i could get back at it [22:02] <mudtar> I'm having some trouble with wireless networking on my Lenovo ideapad Z710 (LENOVO_MT_20250). My wireless interface is an Intel Wireless 7260. While booting, I see the message "[ 22.385290] ideapad_laptop: timeout in write_ec_cmd". (What is the name of the log/stream that this message is a part of, for future reference?) Then "Waiting for network configuration..." and finally "Booting system without full network configuration..." Up [22:02] <mudtar> on logging in with Gnome 3, Gnome Network Manager yeilds "The system network services are not compatible with this verison." About five minutes later, connectivity resumes as normal and I am able to connect to my network. I am trying to sort out what's going on via dmesg, but I can't put all the pieces together myself. [22:02] <ZeloZelos> BAH! i will bb in a few mins, i have to restart for updates on this machine [22:03] <daftykins> mudtar: "dmesg" in a terminal will show those boot messages [22:05] <mudtar> Thanks, daftykins. I've been picking it apart but not finding much that points me in any particular direction toward figuring out what's actually going on. It seems to just "try again" by connecting about 5 minutes in after boot, and it works fine. [22:06] <daftykins> mudtar: i've heard of intel 7xxx wireless issues but don't know what they're about, no experience with gnome either sadly. are there any BIOS updates for your machine from Lenovo that speak of wireless fixes? [22:07] <Layl> Alright, so to alleviate my fakeraid woes, I am about to resize my partition through gparted and create a new one through it, am I about to make a grave mistake by doing this? [22:07] <sohrab> hi all, python doesn't start for one user. any idea how to fix that? [22:08] <EriC^^> sohrab: doesn't start? [22:08] <hkrrsx> !details | sohrab [22:08] <daftykins> Layl: yep, glad you came back as there's something else to try - are you booted into a live session right now? [22:08] <skinux> What is the application that tells us where the most disk usage is at? [22:09] <Layl> daftykins: I have booted into a live session yea [22:09] <Bashing-om> skinux: du -h . [22:09] <kroq-gar78> skinux: 'baobab' I thinkis the one [22:09] <sohrab> EriC^^: i'm having trouble with a user. it doesn't have the sidebar, or window borders, or window menus. the guest user doesn't have any of these problems. i looked at the system monitor and saw that the user with problems doesn't have a python process running. [22:09] <EriC^^> skinux: du -sh /* 2>/dev/null [22:09] <daftykins> Layl: if you open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get install dmraid" then run the installer again, does the partitioner page change compared with your picture from earlier? [22:09] <Layl> daftykins, that will take me a bit to do [22:10] <mudtar> daftykins, there are, in fact, but it appears that they "correct Intel 3160-AC WLAN combo card SSID." not exactly sure what that means, but I have some ideas. Don't think it refers to my particular card. I was having a fine time with a different Ubuntu 14.04 install, but then I reinstalled and started having these problems. [22:10] <Layl> what would have resizing in gparted have done? [22:10] <EriC^^> sohrab: which process? [22:10] <daftykins> Layl: i would have resized the Windows volume from inside Windows if i were you. run diskmgmt.msc [22:10] <daftykins> mudtar: was your new install done with 14.04.2 media? [22:11] <sohrab> EriC^^: i don't remember right now, but python3 or something [22:11] <Layl> daftykins, I could still do this, but I do wonder what the effect of resizing from gparted would have been [22:11] <mudtar> daftykins, it was done with a netinst disk. I guess that's called mini.iso in Ubuntuspeak. [22:11] <sohrab> EriC^^: there is no python process at all for the user with problems. i remember always seeing one [22:11] <mudtar> I don't believe they have incremental releases, do they? [22:12] <EriC^^> sohrab: it's probably irrelevant [22:12] <Layl> daftykins, dmraid is already installed [22:13] <skinux> baobab works, however, there is another program I can't remember the name of. I prefer the other program because baobab is slow. [22:13] <sohrab> EriC^^: i was screwing around with python before all this started. what else could it be? [22:13] <daftykins> mudtar: ah yes, so 3.13 or 3.16 kernel? (uname -r) [22:13] <Layl> daftykins, for additional information, this is what the screen in gparted looks like http://i.imgur.com/egVS1Sk.jpg [22:14] <mudtar> daftykins, 3.13.0-49-generic [22:14] <mudtar> but I believe I was using something equal or prior on the same machine just days ago. [22:14] <mudtar> Not to say that a bug couldn't have arisen in a later version, of course. [22:16] <EriC^^> sohrab: probably a .config issue or something [22:16] <hkrrsx> skinux: http://alternativeto.net/software/baobab/?platform=linux [22:16] <daftykins> mudtar: sounds good. yeah tough call that one, if you auto login i wonder if it behaves the same if you created another user account? [22:16] <EriC^^> sohrab: can you get a terminal when you login? [22:16] <EriC^^> with ctrl+alt+t [22:17] <mudtar> daftykins, I don't auto login, if I understand ya correctly. I'm prompted for my password before I log in via Gnome 3. [22:17] <mudtar> Thanks for your input. [22:19] <sohrab> EriC^^: yes. i'm trying this out and will reboot. brb. -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears/76951#76951 [22:20] <daftykins> Layl: open a terminal and try running "dmraid -ay" [22:20] <Layl> daftykins, I've already rebooted to windows now to resize it from there [22:20] <EriC^^> sohrab: ok [22:20] <daftykins> Layl: that's alright, make space for the entire Ubuntu install then pop back again :) [22:20] <x-flash> yo.. is the piratebay down? [22:20] <daftykins> x-flash: not appropriate here. [22:21] <k1l_> x-flash: ask ##chat [22:21] <Layl> daftykins: should I create a new partition for it or just leave it empty? [22:21] <x-flash> not working in ubuntu at least... so is it ubuntu or is tpb down/ddos? [22:21] <daftykins> Layl: just blank space in preparation [22:22] <Layl> alright, doing that now [22:22] <x-flash> maybe theres a lock in ubuntu to those kinds of web pages? [22:23] <hkrrsx> !offtopic | x-flash [22:27] <riqdiiz> $ubuntu [22:28] <Layl> daftykins, alright I've done that [22:29] <daftykins> Layl: the terminal "dmraid -ay" ? [22:29] <Layl> that not yet, give me a moment to boot into the livecd again [22:33] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, I need a way to get the complete list of domain names that have expired [22:33] <cluelessperson> how do I do this quickly? [22:34] <skinux> Is anyone by chance familiar with OpenCRX server? [22:35] <daftykins> cluelessperson: that you own via a given registrar? that's not an Ubuntu support question [22:35] <skinux> I installed it a few days ago to give it a try, but I couldn't access access it at all once starting it. So, I selected to stop the server and selected it's uninstall menu selection. However, none of the menu options seem to be doing anything and I can't find it via AppGrid nor using 'locate opencrx' command. [22:36] <Layl> daftykins, it's saying it's already active [22:36] <cluelessperson> daftykins, I have an unbuntu server. [22:36] <daftykins> Layl: can you screenshot the installer partitioner window again? [22:36] <cluelessperson> daftykins, I'd like to download a complete domain name list. [22:36] <daftykins> cluelessperson: sorry, that's not something that can be done. [22:37] <daftykins> and 100% is not on topic for this channel either way [22:37] <cluelessperson> daftykins, Why not? There are only 143 Million records or so [22:37] <daftykins> are you purposefully timewasting here? [22:38] <Layl> daftykins, just a moment, gnome running on the livecd is locking up making it a bit difficult [22:39] <hkrrsx> skinux: How did you install it ? [22:40] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to switch tabs on Guake with the keyboard? [22:40] <viejotren> hello everyone [22:40] <viejotren> I am trying to install pygame on ubuntu 14.10 but I have a dependence problem (python-numpy) it seems that package is not on 14.10 repos, do you know a way how to solve it? [22:40] <hkrrsx> kokut: Check the Preferences under Keyboard Shortcuts, it'll tell you in there [22:40] <daftykins> kokut: alt+number ? [22:40] <hkrrsx> It's probably CTRL+Page Up/Down [22:41] <kokut> hkrrsx: yea :) ty [22:41] <hkrrsx> yw [22:42] <skinux> hkrssx: Actually, I don't quite remember. I'm pretty sure I downloaded it without using a repository. However, I used Alacarte to figure out that the Uninstall menu link didn't have full path to the Uninstall.jar file, so that's why the uninstaller wasn't working. [22:42] <Layl> daftykins really sorry for the delays, thanks a lot for helping, just having a bit of issues with freezes [22:42] <guest-6R6H26> hhey [22:43] <daftykins> Layl: hmm not a good sign, this from DVD or flash drive? [22:43] <Layl> from DVD [22:43] <hkrrsx> skinux: Have a look at this and if doesn't work, you'll likely need to contact OpenCRX support directly [22:43] <hkrrsx> http://www.opencrx.org/opencrx/2.10/installerServer/installer_openCRX_server.pdf [22:43] <daftykins> Layl: ah, invest in a flash drive :D the difference is like night and day [22:43] <hkrrsx> skinux: Here's their support URL: http://www.opencrx.org/support.htm [22:43] <Layl> I was trying from a flash drive but it kernel panicked before reaching the installer [22:44] <daftykins> Layl: could've been a corrupted download or bad copy [22:44] <Layl> it was faster to burn to a dvd than to try and fix it [22:45] <Layl> I assume the tool I was using to set up the usb just did something wrong [22:45] <mjayk> possibly Layl should get in the habbit of checking iso hashs [22:45] <Layl> would be really nice if browsers did that automatically [22:45] <daftykins> depends what program you used, yeah [22:45] <kokut> Anyone knows how to add tracks from the library to the playlist in cmus? [22:46] <mjayk> Layl: I think if you torrent it some torrent programs will do that [22:46] <Layl> oh yea I was using the torrent because it was adviced [22:46] <Layl> but the exact same iso is running from the dvd fine [22:47] <hkrrsx> kokut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoAB5gOuoHA [22:47] <mjayk> most give you the md5 in the info; yea sounds like you sorted it. Its just a "good" habbit to get into [22:47] <daftykins> universal USB installer from pendrivelinux.com is a handy one for creating flash drives from Windows [22:47] <mjayk> in my opinion :) [22:47] <hkrrsx> That guy does a great job at explaining the entire CMUS terminal app [22:48] <Layl> yea I should for bigger files, I just am used to almost never having problems with downloads [22:48] <sohrab> is ther ea way to get a log of all the times i've restarted my computer in the last week? [22:49] <daftykins> sohrab: i wouldn't count on it [22:49] <riqdiiz> Can I install Ubuntu on a ide drive using a different machine and move it later and work fine? [22:50] <Layl> daftykins, I have a new option in the part right before that screen [22:50] <sohrab> daftykins: 'last' worked [22:50] <Layl> to install it along side the other partitions [22:50] <mjayk> riqdiiz: problems can occur but it should work [22:51] <daftykins> sohrab: sorry my mistake! [22:51] <sohrab> daftykins: np [22:52] <riqdiiz> Mjayk I'll let you know if it works. Thanks. [22:52] <daftykins> Layl: mmm i'd still go to manual and see how the disk appears [22:53] <Layl> daftykins, in manual it shows the same thing except now with "free space" added to the list [22:53] <daftykins> Layl: so you still see free space twice huh? [22:53] <kokut> hkrrsx: ty :) [22:54] <Layl> daftykins, no I see free space once [22:54] <Layl> there was no free space initially [22:54] <hkrrsx> kokut: yw [22:54] <daftykins> Layl: pic? [22:54] <Layl> hold on, gotta take a pic from my phone [22:55] <Layl> daftykins: sorry for the a bit blurry picture but should be readable enough http://i.imgur.com/rZSPcwe.jpg [22:56] <daftykins> alt-print-screen and upload is always good too ;) [22:56] <Layl> daftykins: for reference this was the original picture http://i.imgur.com/930ErYI.jpg [22:56] <daftykins> Layl: yeah there is a second one, it's just out of view - there's a scroll bar there [22:56] <Layl> can't alt-print-screen in an OS setup can I? [22:57] <daftykins> sure can [22:57] <Starthunder> So I can set the geometry of a gnome-terminal window with the --geometry option. Is there a way to basically say “maximize the window”? [22:57] <Layl> daftykins, the part not visible because of the scroll bar is exactly the same as before except for the size [22:57] <daftykins> hmm i don't know whether it's bad or not that the two disks are seen separately still [22:57] <Layl> those aren't disks though [22:58] <Layl> they're partitions [22:58] <Layl> right? [22:58] <daftykins> well they're volumes with partitions in [22:58] <daftykins> semantics ;D [22:58] <Layl> I know windows 8 installs 2 partitions by default, one for restore, one for the actual stuff [22:58] <daftykins> well, maybe in non-EFI mode yes [22:58] <Layl> my motherboard doesn't support EFI iirc [22:59] <Layl> I recall recently checking in the bios for it [22:59] <Layl> since I was trying out writing a kernel and I wanted to know if EFI was an option [22:59] <daftykins> if you don't care about the data you could just try and install to the free space. i don't know what's going to happen though [22:59] <daftykins> it's possible that desktop doesn't support installing to dmraid [23:00] <Layl> could I just select the option "install alongside" then? [23:00] <Layl> on the screen before [23:00] <daftykins> you can try. pretty sure here be dragons [23:00] <Layl> I've got a friend who basically says he just resized and it worked fine when he installed his favorite flavor of linux and he has fakeraid as well [23:01] <Layl> so I think it should work [23:01] <Layl> but yea, dragons [23:01] <daftykins> are you using RAID-0 or 1? [23:02] <Layl> RAID-0 iirc [23:02] <Layl> the one that's supposed to make things faster [23:02] <Layl> because I like to live on the dangerous end of life [23:02] <daftykins> with two horrible mechanical disks? ugh. [23:02] <Layl> I was slightly less informed back when I got this PC [23:03] <Layl> I still considered C++ an okay language to work in back then [23:05] <Starthunder> Can I log in over SSH and kick off a gnome-terminal as another user? (I have full `sudo` permission on the machine.) [23:06] <mjayk> Starthunder: kill the process ? [23:06] <zerowaitstate> Starthunder: yes, you can [23:06] <Starthunder> Start, I mean. Sorry. XD [23:07] <hkrrsx> Starthunder: 1.) ssh -X <IP_address> then 2.) su <username> gnome-terminal [23:07] <hkrrsx> Starthunder: Hopefully, that'll bring a gnome-terminal window to your screen due to X-forwarding [23:07] <Starthunder> X forwarding? [23:07] <hkrrsx> However, it'll be slow [23:08] <Starthunder> No, I mean…I want the process and window to appear on the remote machine. [23:08] <zerowaitstate> Starthunder: why do you want to kick off gnome terminal when ssh gives you a shell? [23:08] <zerowaitstate> Starthunder: ah [23:08] <hkrrsx> No. [23:08] <zerowaitstate> hkrrsx: actually, he can but the X display has to be set manually I think [23:08] <Starthunder> Uhh…to freak out someone who's using my computer and doesn't know what a command line is? XD [23:09] <daftykins> Starthunder: *sigh* [23:09] <hkrrsx> zerowaitstate: 10 out of 10 people are going to have no need for that though [23:10] <Layl> I'll sure be happy once I've got this all set up and the first step in any build won't be "install mingw" [23:10] <daftykins> you could've VM'd Linux too ;) [23:11] <hkrrsx> Starthunder: If you want to properly mess with someone, learn and install i3 window manager .... no one (probably yourself included) will ever want to touch that machine again [23:11] <daftykins> Layl: i think if i were you i'd have ditched RAID and used one disk per OS [23:11] <hkrrsx> :) [23:11] <Layl> yea but HyperV's a pain [23:11] <Layl> it keeps re-enabling itself [23:11] <daftykins> HyperV? no forget Microsoft VMing [23:11] <Layl> trashing all over virtualbox [23:11] <daftykins> virtualbox/vmware/anything but [23:11] <Layl> yea, I use virtualbox, but hyperv keeps re-enabling itself and virtualbox can't run with that on [23:12] <daftykins> i don't even know why you'd have two techs at once :P [23:12] <Layl> daftykins, would it be possible to set up one disk per OS without completely trashing my windows install [23:13] <Starthunder> I tried starting a shell as that user with `sudo -iu $username` and then doing `DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal ...` [23:13] <Layl> daftykins, visual studio installs and enables hyperv, it's needed for some stuff [23:13] <Layl> mainly widows 8 and windows phone apps [23:13] <daftykins> Layl: not without a lot of work probably [23:13] <daftykins> ah ok. i don't do dev so didn't know VS did that [23:13] <daftykins> i'd be surprised if it can't be disabled [23:14] <Layl> it can be disabled but any update re-enables it [23:14] <Layl> and you need to restart to disable it so [23:14] <Layl> it's quite annoyin [23:14] <daftykins> ho-hum [23:14] <Layl> I'm moving away from VS though now that I'm switching to rust as my primary language instead of C#/F# [23:16] <zerowaitstate> Layl: rust and erlang are very similar [23:16] <daftykins> off topic people [23:16] <zerowaitstate> quite [23:17] <Layl> now's the moment of truth, will it boot [23:17] <daftykins> i read a bit more of the fakeRAID page and i'm not entirely convinced :) [23:17] <Layl> I'm not either, next time I'll just get an SSD [23:18] <Layl> well windows sure still starts [23:18] <Layl> it doesn't give me the grub screen though [23:18] <samthewildone> well well well... dns problems with domain [23:19] * samthewildone eats a snickers bar. [23:19] <daftykins> Layl: likely the device GRUB is installed to needs to be different [23:19] <hkrrsx> !details | samthewildone [23:19] <daftykins> i don't think 'install alongside' is clever enough to know which [23:19] <samthewildone> opps! I though this was offtopic [23:19] <samthewildone> hkrrsx, my bad [23:19] <Layl> daftykins, seems so yea [23:19] <hkrrsx> samthewildone: It's all good [23:20] <Layl> is there a magic key that might bring up grub [23:21] <daftykins> Layl: i'd go into live again, select manual partitioning and try again changing where GRUB is installed to [23:21] <daftykins> i.e. not "/dev/sda" [23:22] <Layl> I'll try that [23:22] <Layl> at least we now know it doesn't break windows [23:22] <Layl> which is quite a feat [23:22] <daftykins> :D [23:23] <Layl> daftykins: should I make it install over the restore partition windows uses? [23:23] <Layl> or over something else [23:24] <Layl> or perhaps I could fix it by changing the master boot record which I had to do before on my laptop [23:24] <daftykins> depends what the options in the dropdown list are really [23:25] <Layl> ah~ there's nothing quite like the 1:30AM boot problems [23:29] <Layl> daftykins, according to my raid status screen I'm using RAID-1, in which case I think I can just disable raid and have 2 separate drives again without data loss [23:29] <daftykins> hmm i think it'd still be awkward [23:29] <Layl> I really thought I was using RAID0 but I doubt that screen is wrong [23:29] <daftykins> i know 7 at least BSODs when you change from SATA mode RAID to normal [23:30] <zerowaitstate> Layl: you are probably forgetting about the metadata created on the volume [23:30] <siwica> As I am fairly new to haskell I am looking for an elegant way to count the occurences of numbers in a list of intergers. E.g. both [2,2,3,5,5,5] and [5,5,3,2,2,5] should become [2,1,3] [23:30] <zerowaitstate> siwica: #haskell [23:30] <siwica> ah, sorry :P [23:31] <siwica> wrong buffer [23:31] <Layl> daftykins, i'm back at the manual install screen, what should I be picking from the list for the boot loader? [23:35] <daftykins> Layl: what are the choices? [23:35] <wheresmypaaants> Hi all! I recently installed Windows 7 alongside my Ubuntu 14.10 (x64) install. Despite me crawling multiple internet forums, my keyboard and mouse freezes during the Windows 7 boot. Here is the bootup process and what happens: GRUB - Keyboard Responsive - Windows selected - Keyboard responsive - During initial boot, the keyboard & mouse shut off and do not come back on - Ubuntu install works fine with keyboards [23:35] <daftykins> zerowaitstate: if you've any experience with installing ubuntu on an intel fakeRAID beside an existing Windows OS, feel free to take over :) [23:35] <wheresmypaaants> Just not the W7 [23:35] <Layl> daftykins, a whole bunch of /dev/mapper/stuff and /dev/sda [23:37] <jonne> wheresmypaaants, what happens if you plug them out and in again after windows has started? [23:37] <wheresmypaaants> jonne: No lights or responsiveness [23:37] <wheresmypaaants> (Still dead) [23:37] <jonne> that's weird [23:38] <wheresmypaaants> mhm [23:38] <wheresmypaaants> At one point, the keyboard loaded, but not the mouse [23:38] <Layl> daftykins, assuming I understand what is happening I should probably install to the one called "Volume01" and not the ones with "p0#" after them [23:39] <Layl> does that sound reasonable [23:39] <hkrrsx> brb, dinner time [23:39] <daftykins> lets remind ourselves of the link [23:40] <daftykins> !raid [23:40] <daftykins> (last one) [23:40] <Nokaji> as ubuntu keeps logs on every file downloaded from the net, does it also keep a total uploads and downloads in Gbytes per day/month? [23:41] <daftykins> Layl: hmm wouldn't hurt to try, i'd probably be trying p01 [23:42] <wheresmypaaants> jonne: Any ideas? [23:42] <Layl> p01's the recovery thing for windows so I don't think that's gonna be having any master boot records [23:42] <jonne> nah, haven't run windows in ages [23:42] <wheresmypaaants> :( [23:42] <wheresmypaaants> Just wanna play GTAV PC :P [23:42] <jonne> but i'm assuming it comes with usb drivers for a standard mouse [23:42] <daftykins> Layl: ah i see what you mean now, reloaded the links as i'd closed them... yeah /dev/mapper/isw...Volume01 [23:42] <jonne> haha [23:43] <Layl> daftykins, should I in this screen be creating a new partition for the ubuntu install or just select the empty space? [23:43] <jonne> only thing windows is still good for [23:43] <wheresmypaaants> jonne: Would you recommend me using a mouse that hasn't been plugged in to that computer yet? [23:43] <daftykins> Layl: create an ext4 one for / and then a swap one, yeah [23:44] <jonne> if you have one lying around, yeah [23:44] <wheresmypaaants> I've got multiple :P [23:44] <Layl> how much space should I keep free for the swap one? [23:44] <jonne> although i think the whole usb subsystem is not starting up for some reason [23:44] <jonne> maybe it's a powersaving thing? [23:44] <daftykins> Layl: how much system RAM? [23:44] <Layl> 16Gb [23:44] <jonne> tried mucking around with those settings in your BIOS? [23:44] <wheresmypaaants> Well, no, it starts up for some time - During the initial W7 boot everything responds, but when the login screen pops up it all cuts out [23:45] <wheresmypaaants> And yes I have [23:45] <jonne> beats me, man [23:45] <wheresmypaaants> (But my BIOS settings are rather limited...) [23:45] <jonne> don't think it has to do with grub [23:45] <Layl> would it be alright to create the swap first so I don't have to carefully calculate how much space I need to leave for it [23:45] <wheresmypaaants> Neither do I [23:45] <wheresmypaaants> I'll try the secondary mouse [23:46] <daftykins> Layl: hmm well assuming you never sleep or hibernate, i'd say 4GB would be plenty. so just click +, then minus 4096 from it [23:46] <daftykins> Layl: actually reading the guide page more... haha... [23:47] <Layl> daftykins, I'm assuming the ext4 one has to be set to primary and not logical [23:47] <daftykins> Layl: it seems to suggest creating them with gparted [23:47] <daftykins> so maybe quit the installer and run gparted, then create them there [23:47] <Layl> alrightey [23:48] <Layl> I'll be so happy when I've got my new laptop and I'll be able to install ubuntu on it by just wiping the pre-installed windows [23:49] <daftykins> and wrestling with EFI [23:49] <pcnate> When I installed ubuntu 14 the other day, I chose to create the swap first. Just chose to create it at the end, then I used the rest of the space for / [23:50] <daftykins> pcnate: yeah that's true, you can probably pick start and end positions [23:50] <pcnate> Also, on that not. Is it still recommended to leave 7% unallocated on an SSD? [23:50] <Layl> oh great, my keyboard stopped working on the machine [23:50] <pcnate> *on that note [23:51] <daftykins> pcnate: totally down to the given drive, some have spare area you never get to see - others expose the whole NAND [23:51] <pcnate> I will assume this one does not have spare [23:51] <Layl> daftykins, I could as well just reformat the existing ext4 and swap partitions [23:52] <Layl> or would it be better to just re-create them [23:54] <daftykins> Layl: mmm if they appear ok, that's fine - you just need to set the installer to make use of them [23:54] <Layl> the swap's 16gb so I guess I'll get to enjoy hibernate [23:55] <daftykins> if it works :P [23:55] <Layl> what could possibly go wrong [23:57] <Layl> daftykins: just a quick sanity check this is what it looks like right now http://i.imgur.com/aFYkzsZ.jpg [23:59] <velho> Evening [23:59] <Layl> after this works I am getting my 5 hours of sleep

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[00:01] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 14.04 LTS • 网上找了个python程序，但是看不懂它做了什么，请各位大神指教！谢谢大家！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469455 Code: # _*_ coding:utf-8 _*_   #xiaohei.python.seo.call.me:) #win+python2.7.x   import csv   csvfile = file('csvtest.csv', 'wb') writer = csv.writer(csvfile) writer.writerow(['id', 'url', 'keywor [00:01] <^k^> ─> ds'])   data = [     ('1', 'http://www.xiaoheiseo.com/', '小黑'),     ('2', 'http://www.baidu.com/', '百度') … [00:12] <hoxily> jackness: http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469455 你发的？ [00:12] <^k^> ⇪ ti: 网上找了个python程序，但是看不懂它做了什么，请各位大神指教！谢谢大家！ - 查看主题 • Ubuntu中文论坛 zz: jackness [00:14] <hoxily> jackness: 这是python脚本啊，写了个csv文件。你想干嘛呢？ [00:16] <hoxily> jackness: 你可以把csv理解为简化版的excel数据表格 [00:36] <kandu> yunfan: 是啊 [00:38] <hoxily> jusss: ping 123 [00:38] <kandu> hoxily: 早 [00:38] <hoxily> 早上好 [00:40] <jusss> hoxily: pong [00:40] <jusss> hoxilybot1: bla [00:40] <jusss> kandu: 帅哥，早 [00:41] <jackness> hoxily, 我发的 [00:41] <jackness> hoxily, 我随便找的脚本 但是我不懂python的语法 [00:41] <kandu> jusss: 早 [00:42] <jackness> hoxily, csv是个什么东东 [00:42] <jusss> hoxily: 好吧，帮我改下上次那个bot吧 [00:42] <jackness> bot是robot的意思吗？ [00:44] <jusss> 我一直以为kandu会是rms那样重量级的扣脚大汉，没想到却是一文质彬彬的帅哥 [00:44] <jackness> kandu, 你是大帅哥吗？脸书发来看看 [00:45] <hoxily> jackness: 不知道的东西你可以百度、Google呀 [00:45] <hoxily> jackness: 这些基础的东西你完全可以自己看Wiki [00:46] <jackness> hoxily, 好吧 我喜欢和大神们讨论问题 [00:46] <hoxily> jackness: 你都知道你不懂了，又知道了关键词，为什么不去搜索下呢？ [00:46] <jackness> hoxily, 一个人搜索太闷了 [00:47] <hoxily> 也只有我这样的闲人才会跟你扯 [00:47] <hoxily> 别人看一眼你的问题就知道是什么东东了 [00:48] <jackness> 好吧 我是英语专业毕业的 不是计算机专业毕业 所以我基础很差 [00:48] <jusss> hoxily: 来发张果照来让我验明下是男是女 LOL [00:49] <jackness> jusss, 不需要这样吧 还要果照 [00:49] <jusss> jackness: 要不怎么验明 :) [00:50] <jackness> jusss, 发个脸书不就好了吗？ [00:50] <jusss> facebook早死了 [00:50] <jusss> 连instagram都不玩 [00:50] <jackness> jusss, 一般脸书应该实名的吧 [00:51] <jackness> instagram 玩过一次 但是看不到什么好友 [00:52] <jackness> jusss, 你是做什么工作的啊 [00:52] <jusss> jackness: it [00:53] <jackness> jusss, i 代表什么 [00:54] <jusss> hoxilybot1: ping [00:55] <jusss> hoxily: 来写bot吧 [00:57] <jackness> jusss, 写bot？ [00:57] <jackness> 我想写bot [00:58] <jackness> bot是不是很好玩 [00:59] <kandu> jackness: 你是女生就发 [01:01] <jackness> kandu, 我是男人 可以看我脸书 我是实名制的 [01:02] <jackness> kandu, 交个朋友没关系的 [01:14] <kandu> jackness: 什么时候来杭州，我请你喝茶 [01:18] <jackness> kandu, 你请我喝茶？这么好？ [01:22] <kandu> jackness: 哼，我这么小气的人才不会请你吃饭。 [01:23] <jackness> kandu, 请我吃饭 你都不肯啊？太小气了吧 [01:24] <gfxmode_> 深圳今天晴天 出太阳了 [01:26] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://i2.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g3/M06/00/07/Cg-4V1I2mvGIcoJNAAEcxtPuwOQAALq4gIeumoAARze338.jpg 夏日炎炎各路大神防暑高招 [01:29] <jackness> 没有新帖就发笑话 [01:29] <jackness> bot真不赖 [01:29] <jackness> https://www.facebook.com/jacknesstang [01:29] <jackness> 大家认识下 [01:30] <^k^> jackness: ⇪ 取标题超时 execution expired [01:37] <jusss> hoxily http://www.zedge.net/ringtones/0-5-1-low%20battery/ [01:37] <^k^> jusss: ⇪ Download free low battery ringtones for your mobile phone - most downloaded last month | Zedge [01:37] <jusss> 很棒的网站,各种音乐铃声 [01:38] * IsoaSFlus 早上好 [01:44] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • Ubuntu下安装OpenGL开发环境报错 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469456 大家好，我在ubuntu下安装OpenGL提示下面错误： sudo apt-get install mesa-common-dev Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have r [01:44] <^k^> ─> equested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not y … [01:45] <jackness> cvs好复杂 [01:46] <jackness> 谁会用的啊 [01:46] <jackness> 教教我 [01:46] <^k^> 新 新闻和通知 • elementary OS 0.3 （代号：Freya）正式版发布 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469457 下载地址： http://elementary.io/ Elementary OS - 号称最漂亮的 Linux 系统！ Elementary OS 是一款基于 Ubuntu 精心打磨美化的桌面 Linux 发行版，号称 “最美的 Linux”。 Elementary 最早是 Ubuntu 的一个美化主 [02:07] <kandu> jackness: 这种呈现，数据混杂而且都没个标准的东西。避免使用就行了。 [02:08] <jackness> kandu, 什么意思？不太明白 [02:08] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 14.04 LTS • 试写了个小程序，现在报错，请各位大神指教！谢谢大家！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469458 Code: #!/usr/bin/python def CanCombin(A,B,num):    ret = ()    for i in range(1,num/A):       print i       lest = num - i*A;       if lest < B:          return ()          if (num - i*A)%B == 0 [02:08] <^k^> ─> :          bx = (num -i*A)/B          ret = (i,bx)          return ret;       return ret; a = 4 … [02:09] <kandu> jackness: csv [02:09] <kandu> jackness: 呃，我眼瞎了啊啊 [02:10] <jackness> 哦 CVS我从来没用过 为什么fedora下的eclispe不支持java开发 [02:10] <jackness> 额。。。怎么了 [02:10] <jackness> 保重眼睛和身体啊 [02:10] <kandu> jackness: 刚刚被你帅气的照片闪瞎了眼。 cvs csv 看混了 [02:10] <jackness> 哈哈 [02:10] <jackness> 我还是挺帅气的吧 [02:14] <jusss> kandu: 自己在脚本里用sleep和写crontab里哪个好? [02:15] <jackness> sleep 和crontab什么意思啊？ [02:16] <jackness> 你写的是什么脚本啊？ [02:19] <kandu> jusss: 该用 sleep 的情景用 sleep, 该用 crontab 的情景。自己实现 crontab [02:21] <jusss> kandu: soga,还是sleep好呀,我就是这样写,在crontab那栽过一次,后来就再也不敢用crontab了 [02:23] <jackness> kandu, 你们聊得好深奥啊！ [02:25] <jackness> kandu, crontab启动图形程序？ [02:25] <jackness> kandu, 好复杂 没用过 [02:41] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 全屏后仍然显示小窗口，无法设置分辨率 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469459 全屏后仍然显示小窗口，无法设置分辨率 zz: lizhiguoemail — 2015-04-12 10:35 [02:48] <jusss> hoxily: ping [02:51] <hoxily> jusss: ？ [02:52] <jusss> hoxily 上次说的那个bot, recv因为读到了空字串,导致疯狂写文件,难道recv不是阻塞的吗? [02:53] <jusss> 读不到流 一直阻塞 [02:53] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • 安装aptitude会出现依赖错误 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469460 sudo apt-get install aptitude Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distri [02:53] <^k^> ─> bution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information … [02:55] <hoxily> jusss: 都说了教你好好看文档 [02:57] <hoxily> jusss: 文档上说了，http://paste.ubuntu.com/10805602/ [02:57] <hoxily> When the remote end is closed and all data is read, return the empty string. [02:58] <jusss> hoxily 还是你厉害,直接找到了 [02:58] <jusss> hoxily 中断连接返回空 [02:58] <jusss> hoxily 我那个Bot还有个问题,上次你说, 太多的对象貌似是 [02:58] <jusss> 2个问题,一个读取空,一个对象多 [03:06] <jusss> hoxily 判断空字串直接用 ==" "? [03:07] <jusss> 还是NULL 我忘了NULL是啥了都...记忆力不好,太长时间不用什么都忘的光光的 [03:07] <hoxily> 可以用 == '' 也可以用 len(s) == 0 [03:08] <hoxily> jusss: python 里没有NULL指针，只有None [03:08] <jusss> 哦,跟c搞混了 [03:08] <jackness> 我靠，你们聊得好深入啊 [03:08] <jackness> 都聊到指针了 [03:08] <jackness> C语言才有指针吧 [03:09] <jackness> java就没有指针的问题 [03:09] <jackness> 自动垃圾回收机制 [03:11] * ^k^ 3.10.17-gentoo #5 SMP Fri Jan 31 16:23:36 Local time zone must be set--see zic ruby 2.3.0dev (2015-03-29 trunk 50111) [i686-linux] [03:14] <iotouch> 使用QT做为桌面的除了KDE外，还有哪些 [03:14] <jackness> gnome [03:14] <iotouch> five sheep u never talked here [03:14] <jackness> 额。。。 [03:14] <iotouch> jackness gnome 用的是 gtk+ 吧 [03:15] <jackness> iotouch, 我知道两种图形界面啊 QT我不懂什么意思 [03:15] <jackness> iotouch, 不好意思啊 [03:18] <jackness> iotouch, 两种哪种好啊 [03:18] <jackness> iotouch, fedora是哪个图形界面的？ [03:19] <jusss> hoxily 不对呀,空字串到底是个啥? [03:21] <jusss> hoxily 这个空字串用编码吗? [03:21] <jackness> http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?f=162&t=89601 [03:21] <^k^> ⇪ ti: [2010.02.20更新][汇总]构建C/C++开发环境(包括gtk/qt等开发库)（适合ubuntu9.10） - 查看主题 • Ubuntu中文论坛 zz: stlxv [03:21] <jackness> 关于gtk+和QT的 [03:21] <jackness> jusss, 你在忙着写bot吗？ [03:22] <jusss> jackness: 没有,在学习 [03:22] <jackness> jusss, 你也是大神吧？清华大学毕业的？ [03:22] <jusss> jackness: 不是 [03:23] <jackness> jusss, 感觉你们都好厉害，什么都懂 [03:23] <hoxily> jusss: 空字符串就是空字符串，内容为空， [03:23] <jackness> null和none我都分不出区别 [03:23] <hoxily> jusss: 比一个字符的字符串还少一个字符的时候，就是空字符串。 [03:23] <jusss> hoxily 有字符表示吗 [03:24] <hoxily> jusss: c里面是 char emptyStr[] = {'\0'} [03:25] <jusss> hoxily \0是个字符,ascci里是0 [03:25] <jusss> ascii [03:43] <jusss> hoxily 这个空字串还需要编码? [03:44] <jusss> 真纠结,能直接判断? recv_msg = fd1.recv(1024) if recv_msg == '' : ? [03:51] <SouppuoS> 有没有试过opencv移植arm的大哥？我遇到点shared library的问题 [03:52] <hoxily> jusss: 当然 [03:52] <SouppuoS> 源码，用cmake配置，然后make产生的.so文件，用readelf看共享库，显示[../../lib/libopencv_core.so [03:52] <hoxily> jusss: C里面的字符串是Zero Ended character sequence [03:53] <hoxily> jusss: 所以即便是空字符串，末尾也有个 0 [03:53] <SouppuoS> Cmake_find_root_path 设置成never还不行，求救 [03:54] <hoxily> jusss: C++ 之后的语言都有 String 类了，内部结构就不清楚了。 [03:54] <hoxily> 也不需要关心 [04:26] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • 安装aptitude会出现依赖错误 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469460 sudo apt-get install aptitude Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distri [04:26] <^k^> ─> bution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information … [05:05] <^k^> 新 其它类软件 • 【求助】ubuntu14.04中怎么把QTcreator设置成中文界面/菜单？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469461 RT zz: MrScarecrow — 2015-04-12 13:04 [05:22] <^k^> 逛了一下论坛,暂时无新贴. [05:29] <jackness> 大家下午好 [05:40] <jusss> hoxily ping [05:41] <hoxily> 作甚？ [05:42] <jusss> hoxily http://paste.ubuntu.com/10806307/ 62缩进错误 [05:42] <jusss> identifier error unexpect indent [05:48] <jackness> jusss：你在学写bot吗？ [05:52] <hoxily> jusss: line 53 - line 60 没有缩进 [05:53] <hoxily> jusss: 导致 L62以后的代码不再属于while块 [05:53] <jusss> docstring is not comment [05:53] <hoxily> docstring也得缩进 [05:55] <hoxily> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0257/#handling-docstring-indentation [05:55] <^k^> ⇪ ti: PEP 257 - Docstring Conventions | Python.org [05:57] <jusss> 我总是犯这种错误 [05:57] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • Ubuntu安装了软件后在哪里打开运行 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469462 比如我安装了jdk但是我不知道怎么进入jdk去写java的程序，刚刚接触Ubuntu不到24小时，网上查了一些方法但是没有很大的帮助，希望好心人能早点帮助我。 file:///home/david/%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%87/2015-04- [05:57] <^k^> ─> 12%2013:40:24%E5%B1%8F%E5%B9%95%E6%88%AA%E5%9B%BE.png zz: David Lei — 2015-04-12 13:44 [06:01] <jusss> hoxily 可以直接用exit() 退出整个程序不用加sys.吗? [06:03] <hoxily> try it yourself [06:03] <hoxily> 我也不知道 [06:09] * jiero nice to see you. [06:17] <jusss> hoxily: 你bot掉了 [06:19] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • 【求助】ubuntu的使用和维护 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469463 由于不擅长英语以及不熟悉命令，在安装一些软件或者设置的时候用到一些命令，不可避免的可能会有错误操作比如安装错的或者多余的东西、使用了错误的命令或者命令格式输入错误等。这些操 [06:20] <hoxily> 我关掉了 [06:43] <jackness> hoxily: 晚上有空吗？ [06:47] <jackness> 我想卖服务器 [06:47] <jackness> 有人要吗？ [06:47] <jackness> 低价出售 [06:47] <jackness> 很便宜的vps服务器 [06:47] <jackness> 一个月只要1块钱RMB [06:48] <hehemark> jackness:什么配置？ [06:49] <jackness> hehemark: 忘记了 我看下啊 [06:50] <hehemark> jackness:嗯 [06:51] <jackness> hehemark: 我忘记了 反正很便宜 VPN账号要吗？10Mb带宽的 [06:54] <hehemark> jackness:私聊 [06:54] <jackness> 好 等我下 我切换下界面 [06:56] <hehemark> jackness:哦 [07:05] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • 新手求助 Ubuntu14.10 X86 下安装的myeclipse spring10.6自动关闭 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469464 Ubuntu14.10 X86 安装的MyEclipse spring 10.6,打开之后，一会就自动关闭了 # # An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment: # # SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x7a5b87cd, pid=23028, tid=3075812160 [07:05] <^k^> ─> # # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (11.3-b02 mixed mode linux-x86) # Problematic frame: # C [libsoup-2.4.so.1+0x … [07:06] <gebjgd> @PhDEric: 昨晚在某高大上饭店吃饭，服务员拿来一个铁盒子，里面有16个小格，说把大家的手机集中保管一下，可放一桌10人的手机，还考虑到有些人可能有两个手机，放完后锁上。我心想，这服务真贴心。有人不愿放，被大家集体批评后还是放了。买单时发现，饭店根本没这个服务员 [07:07] <jackness> 哈哈 手机被骗走了 [07:08] <jackness> 这个笑话很好笑 [07:09] <tryit> happyaron, . [07:10] <kandu> tryit: 拜高管 [07:10] <kandu> happyaron: 拜哈皮 [07:10] <tryit> kandu, ...忙啥呢最近 [07:10] <jackness> 你们很happy啊 [07:11] <jackness> 这么闲 [07:11] <kandu> tryit: 不忙 [07:12] <kandu> tryit: 主要就给 ocaml 写点库 [07:13] <tryit> kandu, 膜拜 [07:14] <jackness> kandu, 大神 你好牛！ [07:25] <jiero> 去。。。为啥我还有一个帐号 [07:39] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout [07:53] <hoxily> hoxily1: print('hello world') [07:54] <hoxily1> None [07:58] <hoxily> hoxbot: 'hello world' [07:58] <hoxbot> hello world [07:59] <hoxily> hoxbot: '\u00034,8Color' [07:59] <hoxbot> Color [08:01] <hoxily> hoxbot: exit() [08:03] <onlylove> hoxily: 你也开始玩BOT了？ [08:04] <hoxily> onlylove: hehe [08:22] <^k^> 新 字体美化和中文支持 • 让小小输入法支持极点编码的特殊字符输入 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469465 用惯了windows下的极点五笔和QQ五笔，对没有zz编码的特殊符号输入法非常不能适应。 今天看了下小小输入法，本想直接改造wbx.txt，加两个元码“?”和“`”，并将万能码由“z” [08:25] <iIlL10Oo> http://hi.taobao.com/market/hi/detail2014.php?spm=a215p.7673441.1998466179.40.oGt1sl&id=13839 [08:25] <^k^> iIlL10Oo: ⇪ 淘宝众筹-项目详情 [08:26] <iIlL10Oo> 这个不错啊 [08:31] <gebjgd> iIlL10Oo, 妇女之友 [08:35] <onlylove> iIlL10Oo: 之前有人做过类似等东西 [08:46] <iIlL10Oo> 嗯，不错 [08:50] <onlylove> iIlL10Oo: 你搜下那是不是叫连酷科技还是啥 [08:53] <iIlL10Oo> 不搜 [09:17] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 安装14.04 时,第四步骤,选框里面什么都没有,磁盘分区找不到 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469468 ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors Units = 扇区 of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 51 [09:25] <danmo98> what ? [10:55] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 别急 : 男:你放心！你一定会娶你的！你等着！一定要有个交待！ 女:我得等到什么时候? 男:快了！我离了婚就娶你！ 女:你什么时候离婚? 男:快了,我和她明年就结婚！结完了就离！ 女:啊?为什么还要等到明年结婚? 男:快了,她今年还没离婚嘛！ [11:43] <jackness> 好无聊啊 [11:43] <jackness> 谁有时间陪我玩游戏啊？ [11:54] <jiero> Ubuntu 15.04 GNOME 竟然不可思议的稳定... [11:54] <jiero> 我发现我想给firefox 卸载插件都有一个星期了都没重启一次.. [12:11] <lainme> jiero: 用gnome-shell 3.16了？ [12:12] <PinoCao> 什么时候linux内核升级到4.0？ [12:12] <PinoCao> 我现在还是2.6呢 [12:16] * jusss 3.19.3-1-ARCH [12:19] <jiero> lainme, 没有呢。 [12:20] <jiero> lainme, 我还是没有勇气和心思去装 Arch Linux [12:20] <jiero> PinoCao, 没关系，过四五年你仍然可以用 2.6 [12:21] <q_> 有没有用C语言写小游戏的团队Irc啊？ [12:22] <PinoCao> jiero: 为啥？？arch只要别更新太频繁。。或者不更新就好了。。如果做桌面用，arch不错。。但是服务器方面就不太稳定了。。新东西太多。。 [12:23] <PinoCao> jiero: 后来我选择了centos就是觉得稳定。。但是装一些应用软件还是挺费劲的。。比如wps。。这样支持32位的软件。。 [12:25] <jackness> 你们都在忙什么啊？ [12:25] <jackness> 我想招人一起建网站 [12:25] <q_> 我想找一个用C语言写小游戏的团队，一起做点小东西玩玩 [12:26] <jackness> hoxily: 在吗？ [12:26] <PinoCao> jackness: 什么内容？？ [12:27] <jackness> PinoCao: 网络加速器 [12:27] <PinoCao> jackness: 有产品？？ [12:28] <jackness> PinoCao: 网络加速器就是产品啊 [12:28] <PinoCao> jackness: 我意思是产品类的网站？？ [12:29] <jackness> PinoCao: 是啊，产品类网站 [12:29] <PinoCao> jackness: 那这还用找人？？你直接网上搜一个动易套件，或者架一个phpwind不就可以了么？？ [12:29] <PinoCao> jackness: 然后花个千八百元百度推广一下就好了。。 [12:30] <PinoCao> jackness: 关键你的目的是产品推广。。不是功能性网站。。 [12:31] <jackness> PinoCao: 我不懂动议套件和phpwind啊 [12:31] <jackness> PinoCao: 推广就靠谷歌和脸书了啊 [12:32] <PinoCao> jackness: 特别傻瓜。。网上搜搜。。0基础就可以。。无非就是找点模版如果不满意的话你可以网上打工网站上找个美工500元软妹币就特别出色了。。给你美工一个。。 [12:32] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 打针没有 : 某男在女友脖子上吻了个草莓,被七岁的小侄女看到, 侄女说:"阿姨,你脖子怎么回事啊?" 不好意思的回答:"被狗咬的。" 侄女惊讶的说:"啊?那你打针没有,会得狂犬病的。" 某女淡定的答:"打了,昨晚刚打了！" 秒懂的有木有? [12:33] <PinoCao> jackness: 你这样的产品推广网站，几乎不用维护。。 [12:33] <PinoCao> jackness: 你产品不是开源免费的吧？？ [12:33] <PinoCao> jackness: 海外党？？国内访问不了脸书和google [12:34] <jackness> PinoCao: 当然不是开源免费的我想赚钱买服务器 [12:34] <jackness> PinoCao: 不是海外党 [12:35] <PinoCao> jackness: 哦。。那你的加速器是给国外接入用的？？ [12:36] <PinoCao> jackness: 我自己做了一个linux服务器，，就是放家里，外网IP最近更新的特别频繁。。 [12:36] <jackness> 不管国外接国内还是国内接国外 我都想做 [12:37] <jackness> 你会自己做服务器了吗？ [12:37] <jackness> 你不买云服务吗？ [12:37] <PinoCao> jackness: 我A地址刚刚指向，DNS也刷通了。。电信的IP地址换了。。我正在考虑要不要换了路由器试试。。是不是路由的背板不够，造成的路由器重启。。 [12:37] <PinoCao> jackness: 不买~~现在没有好项目。。 [12:37] <jackness> 这个我就不懂了 [12:38] <jackness> 网络加速器我觉得是个很好的项目啊 [12:38] <jackness> 我们合伙吧？ [12:38] <PinoCao> jackness: 原理是接入双线或者多线机房，然后收服务费是么？？ [12:39] <jackness> 原理就是虚拟协议连接啊 [12:39] <jackness> 买一个VPS服务器啊 [12:40] <jackness> 然后架设VPN服务啊 [12:40] <PinoCao> jackness: 现在可能比我两年前的技术先进了。。 [12:41] <jackness> 你电话多少啊 我们电话聊天好吗？ [12:41] <PinoCao> jackness: 不过你这样收费标准就变了。。 [12:41] <PinoCao> jackness: 30元包月的话，你这个项目盈利不高~~ [12:42] <PinoCao> jackness: 因为你没有客户群支持。。 [12:42] <jackness> 客户群可以找啊 [12:43] <jackness> 我觉得市场是很大的啊 现在出国劳务那么多 [12:43] <jackness> 很多人都思念家乡的啊 [12:44] <PinoCao> jackness: 我当年做机房接入的时候，做个VPN拨号软件，没有中间服务器费用，一个月30元，勉强维持。然后电信和网通机房的接入门槛高了，需要注册公司，我就不再做了。。技术是挺简单的。。 [12:45] <jackness> 那你干嘛不成立一个公司呢 [12:45] <PinoCao> jackness: 我这边当年的这种接入服务，一年是3W多~~有100多用户~~ [12:45] <PinoCao> jackness: 我当时还在上学~~ [12:46] <PinoCao> jackness: 家里不给钱。。而且不怎么盈利~~ [12:46] <jackness> 和我现在困境一样 我家里封锁我的经济 [12:46] <jackness> 不让我外出工作和创业 [12:46] <PinoCao> jackness: 当时的迅游还有一些其他厂商也在做这个，而且人家的服务比我提供的专业的多~~客户群也不好扩展~~ [12:46] <jackness> 我很想找一部分朋友一起建网络加速器 [12:48] <PinoCao> jackness: 我推荐你可以试试找一些做推广的朋友。。技术就不要找了。。因为找了只会增加你的经营负担~~ [12:48] <jackness> 谷歌和脸书是提供推广的 [12:49] <jackness> 但是要花钱 [12:49] <jackness> 我舍不得钱 我只有一百多块钱了 [12:49] <jackness> 家里不给我钱 我又没工作 [12:49] <PinoCao> jackness: 网站这个你可以自学，或者找网上打工的人给你做。。关键是美工要找好~~团队性质的工作模式不适合你现在的经营模式~~因为你这个产品不是独一无二的。。很多大厂都在做~~ [12:50] <PinoCao> jackness: 不太具有竞争力~~ [12:50] <jackness> 单独一个人不是闭门造车了吗？ [12:50] <PinoCao> jackness: 哪和哪啊？？ [12:50] <jackness> 哦，不是说游戏工作室是需要网络加速服务的吗？ [12:50] <jackness> 是不是可以和游戏工作室合作啊？ [12:51] <PinoCao> jackness: 对啊。。你去网上了解一下迅游。。 [12:51] <jackness> 不够微端的网页游戏对网速要求不高 [12:51] <jackness> 迅游吗？ [12:51] <jackness> 网络加速器的一种 [12:52] <jackness> 迅雷加速器也很出名吧 [12:52] <PinoCao> jackness: 我去新陈代谢一下~~ [12:52] <jackness> 嗯 好的 [12:52] <jackness> hoxily: 在吗？通个电话吧 [12:52] <PinoCao> jackness: 你这个项目就自己搞一下吧。。不太适合团队作业~~也用不了什么人手~~ [12:53] <jackness> 哦，知道了 谢谢提醒 [13:05] <jiero> jackness, 你和 jusss 好像 [13:05] <jiero> jackness, 你在那个地方？ [13:06] <jiero> jackness, 借钱外出都不做，只说明 -你外出心态也不强啊 [13:07] <jackness> jiero: 额？ [13:08] <jackness> 我想外出啊 可是信用卡被我妈妈停掉了 [13:08] <jackness> jiero: 我没办法 [13:08] <jackness> jiero: 我今年总共就拿了300块钱 都被我买服务器用掉了 [13:09] <jackness> jiero: 我在江苏 [13:09] <jackness> jusss: jusss 我不认识 没和他私聊过 [13:16] <jackness> onlylove_: 好久不见 [13:16] * lainme 看到 jackness 就想起那个帖子了 [13:16] <jackness> 额。。。 [13:16] <jackness> 什么帖子 [13:17] <onlylove> lainme: 停！ [13:17] <onlylove> jackness: 你个逗比发的逗比帖子，问谁 [13:17] <jackness> 额。。。robot？ [13:18] <jackness> onlylove: 我发逗比帖子了吗？哪一个？ [13:18] <onlylove> 人傻无药医 [13:20] <jackness> onlylove: 是那个onlylove的爱情故事吗？好像被删除了。 [13:20] <onlylove> jackness: 你还想留着当纪念？ [13:21] <QiongMangHuo> 大家乖 [13:21] <jackness> onlylove: 我想留着以后看看啊 我水平低 [13:22] <jusss> onlylove: 明天下午我要去面人力了,有啥提醒的没? [13:22] <lainme> 有谁再用gnome-shell。快来升级3.16，我要拉人下水 [13:22] <onlylove> jusss: 没 [13:22] <jackness> 哪里升级？不会自动升级吗？ [13:22] <jackness> onlylove: 怎么不给我推荐工作 [13:22] <QiongMangHuo> lainme: 怎讲? [13:23] <jackness> lainme: 要升级了吗？ [13:23] <onlylove> jackness: jusss 的工作是自己找的好么 [13:23] <jackness> l [13:23] <jackness> 哦 [13:23] <jackness> 原来如此 我5月份开始找工作 [13:24] <onlylove> QiongMangHuo: 目测 lainme 目前是小白鼠 [13:24] <lainme> QiongMangHuo: 系列最丑，我这个脑残粉都快受不了了 [13:24] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: 大牛,教教我怎么元编程 [13:24] <QiongMangHuo> lainme: 为什么会变丑了... [13:24] <jackness> onlylove: 这个要升级吗？图形界面会好看点吗？ [13:24] * QiongMangHuo 去找个release video看看 [13:25] <QiongMangHuo> jusss: 啥是元编程, 我只会C和Bash [13:25] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: meta programming [13:25] <lainme> 视频里看不出来，左下角的小补丁块吓到我了 [13:25] <QiongMangHuo> jusss: 啥意思? [13:25] <jackness> meta是什么意思 静态页面里面有这个东西 [13:25] <QiongMangHuo> lainme: "GNOME 3.16 Released: It's Their Best Release Yet' [13:26] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: 代码生成代码然后加个eval求值 [13:26] <QiongMangHuo> jusss: 明显我不会啊 [13:26] <jackness> 你们聊的比较深奥了 我开始有点不懂了 [13:27] <N4ll> 大家好，打扰一下。debian系统，怎样修改grub配置，让开机就显示启动菜单 [13:27] <N4ll> grub>set prefix=(hd0,msdos5)/grub [13:27] <N4ll> grub>set root=(hd0,msdos5) [13:28] <lainme> redesigned notifications, a new shell theme, new scrollbars, and a refresh for the file manager 只有scrollbar我没什么意见 [13:29] <October21> N4ll: /分区在哪里？ [13:29] <QiongMangHuo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxRLa5hTGkg 看得我都想用Gnome了 [13:30] <jackness> lainme: 你是大牛啊？gnome3.6画面会很好看吗？ [13:30] <N4ll> October21 我的boot单独分区了 [13:30] <N4ll> ／say October21 在/sda5 [13:30] <N4ll> ／say October21 (hd0,msdos5) [13:30] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • ufw防火墙可以把日志，保存在SD卡么？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469473 怎样设置？ zz: DsSPA — 2015-04-12 21:25 [13:32] <lainme> jackness: 3.6是大补丁块，外加不能delete删文件 [13:32] <lainme> jackness: 但是习惯后还可以 [13:32] <October21> N4ll: 根据你的分区来输入吧 [13:32] <N4ll> October21 每次进入系统都得在grub敲 [13:32] <N4ll> grub>set prefix=(hd0,msdos5)/grub [13:32] <N4ll> grub>set root=(hd0, msdos5) [13:33] <N4ll> grub> insmod normal [13:33] <N4ll> grub> normal [13:33] <jackness> lainme: 老更新烦死了 [13:33] <October21> N4ll: grub-install嘛 [13:33] <N4ll> October21 怎么默认就显示启动菜单项 [13:33] <jusss> 写grub.cfg [13:33] <N4ll> October21 grub已经装了 [13:33] <jackness> lainme: grub和lilo哪个好一些？ [13:34] <October21> 那是救急用的，没看到rescue吗？ [13:34] <N4ll> jusss Debian系统/boot/grub/grub.cfg默认不让改，让该/etc/default/grub和/etc/grub.d/，但是不知道怎么改 [13:34] <October21> N4ll: 你重新安装grub就正常了吧？ [13:34] <lainme> jackness: 都不会。只用过grub [13:35] <jusss> N4ll: 谁说不让改了 [13:35] <October21> N4ll: 什么不能改？你卡懂了没？ [13:35] <October21> 只是说更新grub时会覆盖掉 [13:35] <N4ll> 强制改？不能用它建议的方法改么 [13:36] <October21> update-grub，重新生成配置文件 [13:36] <jusss> 建议的方法去grub.d下改呀,不过我从来不这么干 [13:37] <October21> N4ll: 你的逻辑要适应类unix系统…… [13:37] <jusss> onlylove: 现在没想出新鲜的东东的灵感了,唉,不知道该干啥都 [13:37] <jackness> 你们讨论的好激烈 都插不上嘴 [13:38] <N4ll> grub没详细研究过，出问题了再来学习来了 [13:38] <October21> N4ll: 不懂怎么改就update-grub自动生成一个，不要随便改 [13:38] <October21> N4ll: 我说了用自动配置 [13:39] <N4ll> October21 update-grub过了,不行 [13:40] <October21> 什么不行？ [13:40] <N4ll> October21 启动还是进不了启动菜单项 [13:40] <October21> 这里不是真人教学，你要说清楚点 [13:41] <N4ll> October21 我再重装一下试试 [13:42] <October21> N4ll: 弄好grub就可以了 [13:42] <October21> 不用重装 [13:42] <N4ll> October21 就是重装grub [13:42] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: bash用什么包括代码块?出了双引号 如eval cmd1 cmd2 cmd3 [13:42] <October21> sudo grub-install /dev/sda [13:43] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: 像c的{ xxx ;xxx;} [13:43] <October21> jusss: 工作怎么样了？ [13:43] <jusss> October21: 明天面人力 [13:44] <October21> jusss: 加油 [13:45] <jackness> jusss: 加油，祝你面试成功，然后拿高工资。 [13:45] <N4ll> October21 好了，多谢 [13:45] <jusss> October21: jackness 谢谢 [13:45] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 15.04 • 今天安装ubuntu 15.04 desktop next出问题了 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469474 就是传说中得unity8 MIR 安装好以后出现一个引导 左边划出，右边划出，可是右边划出不能响应，一直卡在那里，笔记本台式机都试过，无法跳过。。。求解决方法 zz: Merx — 2015-04-12 21:31 [13:47] <jackness> 累了，睡觉了，祝大家好梦 [13:49] <QiongMangHuo> jusss: bash里的{}会开子进程, 也算一个 [13:49] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: ()开子进程吧 [13:49] <QiongMangHuo> jusss: 难道我记错了? [13:50] <jusss> "与大括号{}有些相似的符号是圆括号()。但圆括号（）内的代码将启动一个子shell来运行，{}不会这样。" [13:51] <QiongMangHuo> jusss: 你说的对 [13:52] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: bash有没有作用域这一说? [13:52] <QiongMangHuo> jusss: 肯定有啊 [13:52] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: 这么奇葩的语言,你是怎么忍受它的? [13:53] <QiongMangHuo> jusss: 没办法 因为不会别的 [13:53] <jusss> 各种符号陷阱 [13:55] <IronWard> 习惯就好... [13:56] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: 不停的赋予变量以字符串的方式,是不是可以避免跳坑? [13:57] <jusss> bla="acpi|grep xxx"; eval bla; [13:58] <QiongMangHuo> jusss: 不管什么语言, 写的整齐好看, 一般bug就会少 [13:58] <jusss> bla2="echo \"$bla\"" ; eval bla2 [14:01] <kandu> lainme: 我本来也是 gnome 脑残粉。直到入了 steam 坑，玩起游戏发现许多快捷键冲突，背后 gnome 的 wm 各种硬编码 workaround [14:02] <kandu> QiongMangHuo: 最近晚上经常来啊，调整作息啦？ [14:02] <QiongMangHuo> kandu: 今天是因为无聊... [14:03] <kandu> QiongMangHuo: 啧啧，睡觉时间到。晚安啦 [14:04] <jusss> kandu: 帅哥,晚安 [14:08] <jusss> bash lisp eval apply 感觉这四个有关系,想不通 [14:09] <jusss> 如果bash这样写(eval (echo (eval (echo hello,world)))) [14:09] <jusss> 如果bash也有apply函数 [14:15] <jusss> (eval (echo '(eval '(echo hello,world)))) [14:15] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • CSDN网站，怎么这样了？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469475 电信宽带网络，打开这个网站，发现网站很久没更新了(图)。 但是，用3G网络，打开这个网站，网站就没问题。 是什么原因？ zz: DsSPA — 2015-04-12 22:13 [14:17] <jusss> bash里双引号就是lisp里的(quote ),取消双引号就是加( )求值,还可以用eval [14:17] <jusss> finally 共同的问题,什么时候求值,什么时候不求值 [14:22] <IronWard> 求啥值 [14:23] <jusss> a="echo hello,world" [14:23] <jusss> b="eval $a" [14:23] <jusss> c="echo $b" [14:24] <jusss> 怎么打印出hello,world? [14:24] <jusss> 缺个funcall [14:25] <jusss> eval $c 输出 eval echo hello,world [14:25] <jusss> 现在怎么求值出hello,world [14:25] <jusss> IronWard: 你知道吗? [14:26] <IronWard> 好复杂... [14:26] <IronWard> 这个用处在哪... [14:26] <jusss> 如果bash有funcall就可以一路求值下去 [14:26] <jusss> lisp is in everything [14:29] <IronWard> $c 就行啊 [14:31] <IronWard> $($C) [14:31] <IronWard> 或者 `$C` [14:31] <IronWard> 不过 你eval这么多次有啥用 [14:32] * IronWard 敲一敲 jusss [14:33] <jusss> eval "$(eval "$c")" [14:34] <IronWard> 你是要反复执行一个函数吗 [14:37] <jusss> IronWard: 在bash里使用lisp的语法 [14:38] <jusss> IronWard: 转换代码与数据 [14:38] * IronWard 不懂 lisp [14:38] <jusss> 转换代码与数据 identifier与value [14:41] <jusss> $()就是lisp里的() 或eval [14:43] <jusss> ""是' $()是() 都有eval array可以是list 现在就缺个car cdr con了 [14:43] <jusss> lisp in bash [14:44] <jusss> 用eval做()或funcall [14:45] <jusss> 括号还能分割"",新get技能 [14:48] <jusss> bash默认求值,不需要加求值符号$(),lisp默认不求值,所以加求值符号() [14:51] <IronWard> 把变量放在单引号里就不会替换值了 [14:51] <IronWard> echo '$A' [14:51] <jusss> 嗯 [14:52] <jusss> 睡觉去了,晚安 [14:52] <IronWard> 88

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.652416

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-app-devel

[05:21] <mestre> need to use video qml [05:21] <mestre> sorry, qt video [13:47] <popey> zbenjamin: wheee... highest so far... alan@deep-thought:~/Downloads⟫ mount | grep schroot | wc -l [13:47] <popey> 6069 [15:03] <zbenjamin> popey: did you get the lastest update already? [15:10] <popey> zbenjamin: update to what? [15:19] <zbenjamin> popey: the SDK [15:20] <zbenjamin> popey: we released a patch that should prevent most of the mountleaks [15:20] <popey> zbenjamin: dunno, what package / version should I look for ? [15:20] <zbenjamin> popey: but its not resolving the cause it just tries to keep it in control [15:20] <zbenjamin> popey: you on 15.04 [15:20] <zbenjamin> ? [15:21] <popey> yes [15:22] <zbenjamin> 3.1.1+15.04.20150409-0ubuntu1 << qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu [15:23] <popey> Installed: 3.1.1+15.04.20150409-0ubuntu1 [15:24] <popey> 2015-04-09 16:16:41 status installed qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu:amd64 3.1.1+15.04.20150409-0ubuntu1 [15:24] <popey> 16:24:08 up 3 days, 20:03, 3 users, load average: 0.36, 0.38, 0.45 [15:24] <zbenjamin> popey: or more easy, can you check if /usr/share/qtcreator/ubuntu/scripts/qtc_chroot_cmake2 is a python script [15:24] <popey> /usr/share/qtcreator/ubuntu/scripts/qtc_chroot_cmake2: Python script, ASCII text executable [15:24] <popey> So I probably haven't rebooted since that update came through [15:25] <zbenjamin> popey: yeah, you need to clean up at least once [15:25] <zbenjamin> popey: but the chroot mounts won't go away with a reboot [15:25] <popey> oh [15:25] <zbenjamin> popey: schroot restores them :D [15:25] <popey> "nice" [15:25] <zbenjamin> popey: schroot --all-sessions -e [15:26] <zbenjamin> popey: yeah really nice ..... *facepalm* [15:26] <popey> :D [15:26] <popey> thanks for the help as always dude! [15:26] <zbenjamin> popey: yw [15:26] <zbenjamin> popey: after running the schroot command run , click-chroot-agent -r [15:26] <zbenjamin> or better reboot [15:26] <zbenjamin> because i also fixed stuff in the chroot agent [15:27] <popey> i try to avoid rebooting if possible [15:27] <popey> longest I have had for a while now is 21 days, and that was back in december :( [15:29] <zbenjamin> popey: you can also stop the chroot agent [15:29] <zbenjamin> popey: i think click-chroot-agent -s, then restart qtc [15:30] <popey> alan@deep-thought:~⟫ mount | grep schroot | wc -l [15:30] <popey> 0 [15:30] <popey> \o/ [15:30] <popey> thanks [15:30] <zbenjamin> yay :D [15:31] <zbenjamin> popey: when starting qtc you should not get more schroot sessions than "nr of chroots" * 2 mounts . After lets say 10 minutes there should only be one session per chroot [15:31] <zbenjamin> popey: to check the sessions: click chroot --all-sessions -l [15:34] <zbenjamin> popey: oh btw, you in the mood the review my blogpost i will publish on monday? [15:34] <zbenjamin> popey: could use a native speaker to check it [15:34] <popey> sure [15:35] <zbenjamin> popey: --> pm [15:35] <popey> got it [15:35] <popey> ta [15:39] <popey> zbenjamin: that reads really well - fixed a couple of typos, but that's all. [15:40] <zbenjamin> popey: awesome thanks! [15:40] <popey> np [15:41] <zbenjamin> popey: i just lack pictures but its hard to find some on the topic :D [15:41] <popey> yeah, i was gonna say a couple of screenshots would be good [15:41] <popey> even just a terminal with stuff whizzing by :) [15:42] <zbenjamin> a gif :D [17:37] <mrqtros> Hi all [17:37] <mrqtros> Who is the author of PageWithBottomEdge upstream component?] [18:08] <DanChapman> mrqtros: i believe it is renatu [18:37] <mrqtros> DanChapman thx! [18:37] <mrqtros> renatu ping [18:47] <mrqtros> renatu I hope you will read this later [18:48] <mrqtros> renatu I looked at core apps at all, especially at how they implement bottom edge - a lot of them use "upstream" component called PageWithBottomEdge. If it's your work, I want to discuss implementation with you [18:50] <mrqtros> renatu I think that your implementation is bad by design - it's not good to create one page inside another, reparent them and so on. I used ShaderEffectSource to take "screenshot" of page which I later can easily display in bottom edge animation [18:50] <mrqtros> renatu I'll share code soon [18:50] <mrqtros> renatu looks great, works even better [20:47] <DS-McGuire> popey, Do you know if anyone from the help app is in here? I can't find anyone [20:47] <popey> DS-McGuire: wassup? [20:49] <DS-McGuire> I am looking at the help app for Touch and its need of CSS. From the HACKING file it looks like I only do edits in "content" however the .css file is in "static/themes". Is that .css file controlling the app or is it autogenated when you "make app". [20:49] <DS-McGuire> Hope that makes sense [20:53] <popey> i suspect the readme means "if you're writing content, edit only in content... [20:53] <popey> i think that's what it means [20:56] <DS-McGuire> That makes sense, I guess I could just see how it goes. Just out of curiosity, is there an app that has great design that I can mimick to make sure it looks good? Or should I just stick to the guidelines? [20:56] <DS-McGuire> just because I like looking at real products more than guidelines [20:56] <popey> hmm, hard to say what app would be similar in operation to the help app [20:56] <DS-McGuire> That's true, there isn't any I know of with a lot of text [20:57] <popey> yeah [21:05] <DS-McGuire> popey, Just in case you need to know in the future that is where you edit the css. Thanks for the help [23:15] <DS-McGuire> balloons, ?

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.672299

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-devel

[01:11] <nabukadnezar43> hello, i was wondering whether systemd is default on ubuntu 15.04? [01:15] <nabukadnezar43> or rather "will" be default? [01:37] <Noskcaj> sidi_, Are the issues in bug 1439685 in ubuntu? We're carrying a few patches. Also, are .1 and .2 safe for an upload this late in the cycle? we only have 3.14 [01:39] <sidi_> Noskcaj, sorry im unaware of an existing bug, I only know upstream fixed it [01:39] <sidi_> talked to the dev [01:39] <sidi_> s/he told me the .3 release was exclusively about fixing the memory corruption when copying images [01:40] <sidi_> Noskcaj, oh sorry, re-reading. No the bug was upstream, but 3.14.2 is generally unusable, and shouldnt be used [01:40] <sidi_> to the point where I would backport that if I was maintaining a distro. 3.14.3 is *not* a feature release in any case [01:44] <Noskcaj> unfortunately, .1 is a feature release. I don't use gnome, so i can't test if affects ubuntu. [04:38] <sidi_> Noskcaj, it's a systematic memory corruption, 100% reproducible. it affects everyone everywhere and vivid is shipping that broken version [05:29] <Noskcaj> sidi_, I'll take a look up upstream git and package it [06:52] <Noskcaj> sidi_, It might be worth having your patch apply on ubuntu's gpaste, not upstream 3.14.2 [07:27] <infinity> Noskcaj: I was going to suggest that an FFe might be appropriate, but looking more closely at the 3.14 -> 3.14.3 diff, upstream broke ABI without an SONAME bump, which doesn't inspire confidence. [07:33] <Noskcaj> infinity, That's why i wasn't going 3.14 -> 3.14.3 [07:34] <Noskcaj> I was wanting to just backport upstream's 3.14.2->3.14.3 changes, which i think is what sidi_'s patch is [10:46] <Unit193> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mariadb-10.0/+bug/1429725/comments/10 [18:11] <YokoZar> Is it too late to sync a package? I just noticed we still have an ancient ubuntu version and the debian one is better [18:14] <Unit193> You can requestsync it, at least. Is it a minor package? Just fixes or new features? [18:14] <YokoZar> Fixes [18:20] <Unit193> Well, you're going to have to tell them the name, request a sync, or something. ESP won't work. And, I do hope so, the mariadb package in Ubuntu is kind of full of fail.

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.677147

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-ops

[19:43] <krabador> please i need to talk with an op [19:49] <elky> waiting more than 14 seconds will probably help [19:54] <Flannel> That 15th second is always the crucial one. [23:57] <hggdh> @login [23:57] <hggdh> @btlogin

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.678578

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-qc

[02:04] <l4l13n> salut [02:08] <l4l13n> J'ignorais l'existance de ce #. Je suis un amoureux de ubuntu, je l'utilise depuis longtemps, dernierement j'ai du tout réinstallé car ma sessios unity administrateur avais planté suite à une mise à jour. Il m'est présentement IMPOSSIBLE de réinstaller Ubuntu :( quel deuil d'être sous windows. Si vous pouvez me donner un p'tit coup de main, voici mon thread sur ubuntu-fr http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1819381 [02:09] <l4l13n> Je suis québecois de la ville de Lavaltrie [02:09] <l4l13n> merci [02:42] <l4l13n> Simplement sire que par curiosité et apres conseil d'un ami sur ubuntu-fr, je viens de tenter d'installer fedora-live et même chose, apres 5 seconde l'écran s'éteint

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.684101

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-mythtv

[10:33] <EvilGuru> tgm4883: How did the build go? [15:21] <tgm4883> EvilGuru: I fixed 4-5 packaging bugs last night took a break and forget to come back. I just fixed another packaging bug so we'll see how this next build goes [15:49] <tgm4883> bah [15:50] <tgm4883> I just fixed quite a few more install bugs in one shot, but i've hit the build quota which I didn't know existed :/ [15:52] <Hydr0p0nX> i'd think failed builds wouldn't count in that case [19:31] <tgm4883> Hydr0p0nX: nah, I can see their reasoning. I should have been building locally and ensuring it built first :/ [19:31] <tgm4883> I did push like 9-10 builds in a 24 hour period [20:06] <tgm4883> Yay [20:07] <tgm4883> EvilGuru: ok, so the latest build succeeded, so it looks like I finally fixed all of the packaging issues. That said, it only successfully build for vivid, because of the daily build limit. I'm assuming that build limit will be lifted in about 3 hours which is when I did the first build yesterday so we should see the rest of them build successfully after [20:07] <tgm4883> that

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.688155

2015-04-12-#kubuntu

[00:44] <gunndawg> Question before I attempt this. Would installing Synaptic packager manager interfer with Muon? [00:51] <darthanubis> no [00:56] <gunndawg> is synaptic the prefered package manager? I'm just not real thrilled with Muon [01:02] <genii> gunndawg: Muon is what Kubuntu currently ships with, but you can install any package manager you want. I generally just use the command-line [01:03] <gunndawg> genii: fair enough. Thanks. [01:03] <genii> np [01:05] <gunndawg> I went ahead and installed it. Kind of interesting that when I launch synaptic thru the Konsole it opens and uses my current theme, but if I go thru the K Menu and click on the Synaptic icon it opens synaptic with its default white/grayish theme [01:05] <genii> Sounds like a bug [01:06] <gunndawg> not a big deal [01:22] <darthanubis> gunndawg: it's not abug [01:23] <gunndawg> it's not? Whats the reason for it? out of curiosity [01:24] <darthanubis> http://pasteboard.co/2uXCpLHF.png [01:24] <gunndawg> correct thats what it looks like when I open thru the K-Menu [01:25] <gunndawg> but if I open thru the TErminal then it fits my theme (dark blue, etc) [01:25] <gunndawg> all that white that you see is dark blue, the text is teal, etc [01:25] <darthanubis> When you call synaptic from the menu, it call root. The proper link is not set in the /root dir to allow for gui consistency [01:25] <gunndawg> ah makes sense [01:25] <darthanubis> I know, I ran into the same issue [01:25] <gunndawg> Thanks for the clarification [01:25] <darthanubis> np [01:27] <gunndawg> dar [01:27] <gunndawg> darthanubis: how did you get the Installed, Installed (manual), and Not Installed links on the left [01:28] <darthanubis> I'm looking for it now [01:28] <gunndawg> mine just shows categories [01:28] <gunndawg> games, Development, databases, etc [01:28] <darthanubis> it has nothing to do with the menu [01:28] <gunndawg> Would be nice to be able to access that "Installed" section though [01:28] <darthanubis> call synaptic from the menu and then take a screenshot of it? [01:30] <gunndawg> http://i.imgur.com/BleYa1j.png [01:31] <darthanubis> ahh, that's your theming [01:32] <darthanubis> the window border is using kde, but the them is using gtk [01:32] <darthanubis> not even gtk3 [01:32] <gunndawg> the theme alone will alter the sub sections inside of a program? [01:32] <darthanubis> no [01:32] <darthanubis> well, all that blocky grey [01:32] <darthanubis> yes [01:32] <darthanubis> it's be smooth like mine [01:32] <darthanubis> but not quite, I'm using plasma5 [01:33] <gunndawg> ah ok [01:33] <gunndawg> I'm using default Kubuntu 14.04 with some ghost themes installed [01:33] <gunndawg> its mostly all ghost themed [01:33] <darthanubis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/179322/gtk3-theme-in-kde [01:33] <darthanubis> sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-oxygen gtk3-engines-oxygen kde-config-gtk [01:34] <gunndawg> can I carry my current theme over to a gtk3 config? [01:34] <darthanubis> Install those packages [01:34] <gunndawg> I quite like the way it looks with the colors and windows, etc [01:34] <gunndawg> ok [01:34] <darthanubis> see if that makes the difference you are looking for [01:36] <gunndawg> the first 2 says I already have up to date [01:36] <gunndawg> it cant find kde-config-gtk [01:36] <darthanubis> ok [01:37] <gunndawg> so i already have gtk3 installed but you say I'm not using it? [01:37] <gunndawg> I'm still rather new with this, so I wouldnt know one way from the other [01:38] <darthanubis> I know, I'm looking for a more concise way to direct you [01:38] <gunndawg> appreciate it [01:38] <darthanubis> np [01:38] <darthanubis> https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?67826-GTK-themes-or-QT-themes&highlight=gtk3 [01:38] <darthanubis> chew on that will I look for something else [01:40] <darthanubis> if you go into system settings >> Application Appearance >> Gtk [01:40] <gunndawg> yeah [01:40] <gunndawg> I'm using Oxygen-gtk [01:40] <darthanubis> Note that most things would be using gtk3, but some still use gtk2, so there are two sections there. [01:41] <gunndawg> ah ok [01:41] <gunndawg> so I'm using both gtk2 and 3? [01:41] <gunndawg> because oxygen-gtk is set in both gtk2 and 3 theme [01:42] <darthanubis> what are your options there? [01:42] <gunndawg> For GTK3 I have default, emacs, and Oxygen-gtk [01:43] <gunndawg> for GTK2 its just default and oxygen-gtk [01:43] <gunndawg> I'm sorry [01:43] <gunndawg> for GTK2 [01:43] <darthanubis> ok [01:43] <gunndawg> Raleigh and oxygen-gtk [01:44] <gunndawg> Dogs are acting up. Need to step away a few mins. Mind PMing me related info so I can see when I get back in 10 - 15mins? I'd like to fix this. And thanks for the help [01:44] <darthanubis> sure [01:45] <gunndawg> much appreciated [01:45] <darthanubis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/87037/gtk-in-kubuntu-apps-look-bad [01:45] <darthanubis> p [01:45] <darthanubis> np [08:57] <lordievader> Good morning. [09:12] <MoonUnit`> morning [09:19] <lordievader> Hey MoonUnit` [09:26] <MoonUnit`> nice, will have to boot into windows to flash a firmware file. [11:22] <amari> Hi [11:22] <amari> Is kde5 stable for daily use in Kubuntu 15.04? [11:37] <MoonUnit`> that would depend on your hardware and use, some of the big problems have been ironed out but still some to go. [11:37] <MoonUnit`> current bug list http://tinyurl.com/kh2pxbb [11:38] <MoonUnit`> only real problem for me is not being able to logout, shutdown and reboot properly. [11:38] <lordievader> I'd wait at least till it is released. [11:38] <lordievader> MoonUnit`: Even after the updates of yesterday? [11:39] <MoonUnit`> yup, when i logout the desktop goes black apart from programs on the desktop are mostly still on screen. [11:40] <MoonUnit`> pidgin, thunderbird, firefox and conky [11:40] <lordievader> Hmm, I thought that got fixed with yesterday's updates. [11:40] <xen> yo [11:42] <MoonUnit`> i'll have to try installing to a different drive and see if it works ok, maybe something i've done/installed is breaking something. [11:44] <lordievader> o/ [11:48] <soydemadrid> hi can anyone please help. I added a customised xorg.conf file to try get a second display to work and ended up with just a black screen when kubuntu booted. I can get the command line with alt f2 so I deleted the xorg.conf but still get a black screen. Does anyone know how I can reset my displays and re-autodetect them please? [11:48] <lordievader> soydemadrid: What graphics card and driver are you rocking? [11:49] <soydemadrid> lordievader: Nvidia but not sure what the card is [11:49] <lordievader> soydemadrid: Do you have a shell? [11:49] <soydemadrid> lordievader: yes got the shell and already did RM on the xorg file but it hasn't helped... [11:50] <lordievader> soydemadrid: What is the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA'? [11:51] <soydemadrid> lordievader: that gives me Nvidia GF108 GeForce GT 630 [11:51] <soydemadrid> lordievader: (rev a1) [11:52] <lordievader> That's all? No driver? [11:53] <soydemadrid> lordievader: sorry yes driver just says nvidia [11:53] <soydemadrid> lordievader: "Kernel driver in use: nvidia" [11:53] <lordievader> Ah, good. What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say? [11:53] <lordievader> !paste [11:57] <soydemadrid> lordievader: I'm not sure how to show you it as I'm talking to you on a laptop, but the other computer has no GUI anymore. I've opened it in Nano and there is 600 lines. The bottom few lines say "NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-1 [11:57] <lordievader> soydemadrid: Does it have an active internet connection? [11:57] <soydemadrid> lordievader: yes [11:58] <lordievader> soydemadrid: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log [11:58] <soydemadrid> lordievader: thanks! doing it now [12:00] <soydemadrid> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10808164 [12:02] <MoonUnit`> kde also saves it's monitor setup to .local/share/kscreen/ you may need to clean it out too if you still have problems. [12:04] <lordievader> soydemadrid: You have two displays attached? [12:04] <soydemadrid> MoonUnit`: ok I've rm-ed the Kscreen directory too but it still gives a black screen on login... [12:04] <soydemadrid> lordievader: yes two displays [12:04] <lordievader> soydemadrid: Does it work when you disconnect crt-0? [12:05] <MoonUnit`> maybe clean out the .cache folder? [12:05] <soydemadrid> lordievader: they were working great. But the CRT-1 display was wrong resolution so I added a few lines to xorg and then when rebooted had a black screen. so i deleted xorg.conf but still stuck with black screen [12:06] <soydemadrid> lordievader: ok disconnected the second screen and rebooting to see if it works [12:07] <lordievader> Yes, one of the two doesn't output EDID. [12:08] <soydemadrid> lordievader: just rebooted and i have a mouse pointer but black screen and blank empty task/window panel at bottom. can't click or do anything... [12:08] <soydemadrid> lordievader: that's with just one screen plugged in... [12:08] <lordievader> Is lightdm setup to do autologin? [12:09] <soydemadrid> lordievader: yes. but if I restartx and the screen has locked, it lets me login again and the progress bar moves up and I'm just back at a blank screen again. [12:10] <soydemadrid> lordievader: if I reinstall Kubuntu it will be fine again. but one monitor then has the wrong resolution... [12:10] <lordievader> Could you disable the autologin? [12:11] <soydemadrid> lordievader: it doesn't seem to be down to that. As if I reinstall it works ok, I just reinstalled this morning. it is when I try change the display resolution of the second screen it then breaks both of them [12:11] <soydemadrid> lordievader: is there a way to just go back to as if you've first installed kubuntu and have it redetect the displays? [12:11] <lordievader> What I want to know if lightdm is shown correctly. From there we can pin point the problem better. [12:12] <soydemadrid> lordievader: yes that will show fine. it is once I get in to the desktop that is when I get a black background instead of wallpaper. I get the panel at the bottom but nothing on it and a mouse pointer [12:13] <lordievader> Right, make a new user and see if that one has the same problem. [12:13] <soydemadrid> i can also press alt and f2 and the top panel program runner appears but if i type anything in there nothing comes up and i can't launch anything [12:13] <soydemadrid> lordievader: how do i make a new user though now I've logged in? [12:14] <lordievader> soydemadrid: Run useradd or adduser in your shell. (I allways forget which one was the frontend) [12:14] <soydemadrid> lordievader: ok what I'll do is I'll just reinstall kubuntu again [12:14] <MoonUnit`> have you tried renaming .cache and restarting, solved most of my black screen problems. [12:15] <soydemadrid> lordievader: then maybe you can help me get the right resolution on second screen once everything is back how it was? [12:15] <lordievader> soydemadrid: Hmpf, that is one way to go about it. [12:16] <soydemadrid> lordievader: well i have a clean install anyway just about, it was only when i tried to get my second monitor to the right res that the problem occured. [12:33] <soydemadrid> lordievader: ok i've reinstalled and using nvidia 346.59 recommended latest driver - all works well but my second display is not 2048x1152 like it should be. both monitors are same type and should use that display but the second one is just 1024x968 or something like that... [12:35] <lordievader> soydemadrid: Allright, what does xrandr say? [12:37] <soydemadrid> lordievader: xrandr says the first one is 2048x1152 but the second one is 1024x768 [12:39] <lordievader> soydemadrid: I'd like to see the full output. [12:40] <soydemadrid> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10808405 [12:42] <lordievader> soydemadrid: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/guerrilla-tactics-force-screen-mode-ubuntu [13:56] <jonah> hi is anyone any good with Display settings or xorg.conf? I'm having really bad problems. I have two Samsung Syncmaster 2343nw monitors. one is connected via DVI and the other VGA as I have two ports on my graphics card. But the VGA connected one isn't in 2048x1152 resolution as it should be... I've tried adding it in to xorg.conf but it seems to break things. Can anyone help at all? [13:58] <BluesKaj> Hey folks [13:58] <lordievader> jonah: Are you the soydemadrid of earlier? [13:58] <jonah> lordievader: Hi yes that is right! But I'm now on the main computer, not the laptop [13:59] <jonah> lordievader: I tried your Bruteforce link but couldn't get it working. [13:59] <lordievader> jonah: Have you looked at the link I gave you? [13:59] <jonah> lordievader: yeah, I just got an error message. [13:59] <lordievader> jonah: Could you specify that in more detail> [13:59] <jonah> lordievader: the weird thing is that I used to have to add ModeLine "2048x1152_60.00_rb" 156.750 2048 2096 2128 2208 1152 1155 1160 1185 +hsync -vsync [13:59] <jonah> lordievader: to my xorg.conf to get the second screen to work [14:00] <jonah> lordievader: but when i do that now in Kubuntu 15.04 I just get the black screen again... [14:01] <jonah> lordievader: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?64421-Can-t-get-two-Samsung-SyncMaster-2343nw-monitors-to-display-2048x1152-dual-screen [14:01] <jonah> lordievader: bottom of that post was last time I installed the previous Kubuntu. at the bottom I posted that I managed to fix it [14:02] <jonah> lordievader: but adding that line in this time just breaks plasma and things go black again. plus I'm not sure if I'm adding it in the right place... [14:02] <lordievader> jonah: The first step fails. [14:02] <lordievader> jonah: What happens when you do that without sudo? [14:03] <lordievader> Also, do the cvt yourself. I get different values here. [14:04] <jonah> lordievader: hi sorry what do you mean do the CVT yourself? How do I do this? [14:04] <lordievader> jonah: The very first step out of the link I gave you. [14:04] <lordievader> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/guerrilla-tactics-force-screen-mode-ubuntu [14:05] <lordievader> jonah: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/guerrilla-tactics-force-screen-mode-ubuntu [14:06] <jonah> lordievader: the first step doesn't show my screen resolution though on the output? [14:07] <lordievader> jonah: With the first step I ment "cvt 1280 1024 60" as show on the web site. [14:12] <jonah> lordievader: Hi I've got the second monitor now into that resolution! it works. but how do I then keep it that way? My xorg file looks a lot different to his example due to being a twinview setup... [14:18] <donniezazen> Kamoso freezes as soon as you hit video recording button. [14:46] <xennex81> so is vivid vervet moved to "udev" for mtab? [14:46] <xennex81> utab I mean [14:47] <MoonUnit`> shame, made a video wallpaper but the cpu usage was too high, plasmashell 60% [14:49] <xennex81> :) [17:45] <victor__> hello! [19:13] <darthanubis> gunndawg: you get your theme sorted? [22:31] <gunndawg> 0/ [22:59] <gunndawg> darthanubis: 0/

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.693848

2015-04-12-#snappy

[05:17] <jchodyniecki> Hi Team. Just deployed an ova snappy image to virtual box, but the ubuntu/ubuntu password doesn't work. any ideas? It is late, so I could be doing something silly [16:11] <asac> mahmoh2: ogra_ is the one who knows node [16:11] <asac> mahmoh2: you should have texted me :( [16:13] <asac> mahmoh2: ah seems you got help from kirkland [19:15] <jchodyniecki> Hi Team. Just deployed an ova snappy image to virtual box, but the ubuntu/ubuntu password doesn't work. any ideas?

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.696627

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-za

[04:54] <Kilos> morning captine DalekSec inetpro et al [05:55] <Kilos> oh my net splits time again [06:35] <Kilos> hi Tonberry [06:36] <Tonberry> hi [07:54] <Kilos> at times im more stupid than others it seems [07:54] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases [07:57] <Kilos> how come 14.04.1 expires in 20.19 and 14.04.2 expires in 2016 and what is the HWE thing [07:57] <Kilos> oh is that only kernel support [07:58] <Kilos> all other security updates will keep going till 20.19 [07:58] <Kilos> sigh rtfs [08:34] <Kilos> oh my [08:41] <DalekSec> HWE is xorg and mesa too. [08:41] <Kilos> ah ty DalekSec [10:17] <Kilos> DalekSec may i ask where you are so i can fit you into a timezone in my head please [10:19] <Kilos> you can pm if you prefer [10:48] <inetpro> Kilos: what is 20.19? [10:48] <Kilos> wb inetpro [10:48] <inetpro> ty [10:48] <Kilos> where do you see that [10:49] <Kilos> oh sorry 2019 [10:49] <Kilos> what broke? [10:50] <Kilos> the . can in becasue of the 14.04 action [10:50] <inetpro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1204_HWE_EOL [10:51] <inetpro> thunder! [10:52] <Kilos> ya town side [11:11] <Kilos> thunder coming closer fast now [11:11] <Kilos> if i disappear power died [11:22] <Kilos> wb plustwo [11:23] <plustwo> o/ Kilos [11:23] <plustwo> rain [11:58] <Kilos> hi captine [12:02] <captine> hey there [12:03] <Kilos> hmm... hey there , you with the smile on your face [12:03] <captine> ? [12:03] <captine> smile [12:03] <Kilos> old song i think [12:03] <captine> am doing ok... just mowed the lawns [12:03] <captine> :) [12:03] <captine> lol [12:03] <Kilos> good man [13:24] <inetpro> good afternoon [13:57] <Kilos> avy inetpro [13:58] <Kilos> very promising thunder we had [15:05] <Kilos> inetpro ping [15:05] <hibana> hello Kilos [15:05] <Kilos> hibana wb [15:05] <hibana> pong [15:06] <Kilos> lol [15:06] <Kilos> wat is stukkend [15:06] * hibana talking to you from Ireland or somewhere far away [15:06] <Kilos> nee man [15:06] <inetpro> :-) [15:07] <Kilos> hehe [15:07] <hibana> wat nee man jy? [15:07] <Kilos> there was mo thunder in ireland today [15:07] <Kilos> no [15:07] <inetpro> Kilos: the thunder took him away to a far off land [15:08] <Kilos> should i wait for the site to launch before trying to get a list addy [15:08] <inetpro> wat's fout oom? [15:08] <Kilos> neo is missing in action [15:08] <hibana> ai! [15:08] <Kilos> some heavy project keeping him away [15:09] <inetpro> you don't have to do everything in one day [15:09] <Kilos> hee hee listen to mr impatience himself [15:09] <hibana> inetpro: this thing has been dragging on for longer than one day sir [15:09] <inetpro> hmm... [15:09] <Kilos> ty hibana [15:10] <Kilos> someone on my side at last [15:10] * inetpro scratching with his toes in the sand [15:10] <hibana> Kilos: waar's jou sjambok? [15:11] * Kilos prods inetpro with the sjambok [15:11] <inetpro> ok, ok, jammer oom [15:11] <inetpro> wat moet ek maak oom? [15:12] <Kilos> tell me what to do, you are the one that said mailing lists are easy [15:12] <Kilos> and [15:12] <Kilos> and [15:12] <inetpro> ai! [15:12] <Kilos> you supposed to support me in locoteams [15:14] <Kilos> ive set the cheches on neo [15:15] <Kilos> apologise for your greeter bots stupid questions [15:16] <hibana> Kilos: wat het inetpro gedoen? [15:16] <Kilos> te min dink ek hibana [15:17] <Kilos> i want an official list addy for the site [15:17] <hibana> gee kans ek sal hom vinnig uitsorteer [15:17] <Kilos> not just any tom dick or harry@whatever [15:17] <Kilos> dankie hibana [15:17] <inetpro> uh [15:18] <hibana> uh wat? [15:18] <inetpro> ai! [15:18] <Kilos> lol [15:18] * inetpro lost it somewhere [15:19] <Kilos> IT? [15:19] <inetpro> IT = Information Technology [15:19] <Kilos> sigh [15:19] <Kilos> it then [15:19] <Kilos> what is it [15:20] * Kilos hands the sjambok to hibana [15:21] * hibana takes the sjambok and puts it aside for the moment [15:21] <hibana> will come in handy later [15:21] <Kilos> ai! [15:21] <Kilos> sort him man [15:25] <Kilos> ai! [15:29] <Kilos> hibana dont forget to hand the sjambok back before you leave, i battle here without it [15:29] <hibana> sure thing Kilos [15:30] <inetpro> Kilos: did you or superfly delete the ubuntu-africa team again or was that never created as a team? [15:30] <Kilos> not me [15:30] <Kilos> dev-team [15:31] <Kilos> ubuntu-africa-dev i think it was [15:31] <inetpro> I think we simply need to create the ubuntu-africa team [15:31] <superfly> I think there's one already, but I can't remember for sure [15:31] <superfly> I'll check [15:32] <inetpro> but I remember you had something which the fly said was wrong [15:32] <superfly> just not now, power going out from 6-8 [15:32] <Kilos> ty superfly how you have lots of coffee made [15:32] <Kilos> hope [15:33] <superfly> thermos flasks ftw [15:33] <Kilos> well done [15:34] <Kilos> i got gas stoves and lamps so all i really lose is the internet [15:37] * hibana should be immune from power failures here in the DC [15:38] <Kilos> you guys went offline earlier [15:38] <Kilos> was that power or upgrade time [15:38] * hibana is just afraid of his masters pushing the wrong button [15:38] <Kilos> lol [15:40] <hibana> Kilos: I got a new lease of life here at Amazon [15:40] <Kilos> how [15:40] <Kilos> oh that 1 year thing [15:40] <hibana> thanks to magespawn's brilliant idea last night [15:41] <Kilos> yeah his idea is good because he wants to derive income from it [15:41] <Kilos> how much space have you got [15:42] <Kilos> oh its timed in hours so no good online 24/7 [15:42] <inetpro> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on [15:42] <inetpro> /dev/xvda1 7.8G 1014M 6.4G 14% / [15:43] <Kilos> what about the time thing [15:43] <inetpro> I'm sure I can keep it up all hours [15:44] <Kilos> so is there space for QA [15:50] <inetpro> Kilos: space should be more than enough [15:50] <inetpro> you'll have to give me a bit of time to get the hang of the setup [15:50] <Kilos> and permissions [15:51] <inetpro> so many options, so much to read [15:51] <Kilos> but you are so good at rtfs [15:54] <inetpro> 750 hours free per month [15:56] <Kilos> ok how many hours in a month [15:56] <Kilos> Maaz 31x24 [15:56] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh? [15:56] <Kilos> Maaz 31*24 [15:56] <Maaz> Kilos: 744 [15:56] <Kilos> wow so its full month [15:57] <Kilos> = [15:57] <Kilos> + [16:01] <Kilos> i must go back to school and get my folks money back, how can they give you 750 hours when there are only 744 [16:07] <Kilos> oh i just twigged about the team inetpro some names to add hey [16:12] <Kilos> hi SilverCode [16:13] <SilverCode> hi Kilos [16:26] <Kilos> SilverCode have you joined us yet at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za/+members [16:26] <Kilos> i think thats the link [16:27] <Kilos> and if you would, can you add yourself here too please https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members [16:34] <SilverCode> ok, signed up on launchpad, but the wiki login seems to not work :/ [16:35] <Kilos> dont you see edit [16:35] <Kilos> oh my [16:36] <SilverCode> ok, it finally managed to log in [16:36] <Kilos> it is very slow at times [16:36] <Kilos> lol yay [16:36] <SilverCode> ...and it logged me out... [16:36] <Kilos> oh my [16:36] <SilverCode> lets try this again [16:37] <Kilos> please do [16:37] <Kilos> murphy is around again [16:38] <SilverCode> so do I just edit the wiki and stick my name at the bottom? [16:38] <Kilos> yip [16:38] <Kilos> easiest is to copy paste the one above and the paste and edit it i believe [16:39] <Kilos> all those [| things are hard to remember [16:43] <SilverCode> done [16:43] <Kilos> ty SilverCode [16:43] <Kilos> and welcome to our family [16:43] <Kilos> community [18:24] <Kilos> hmm... inetpro nog ene [19:24] <hibana> Kilos: you were saying? [19:24] <Kilos> i was? [19:24] <Kilos> what was i saying [19:24] <Kilos> ?? [19:27] <hibana> you were talking about nog ene [19:29] <Kilos> oh moenie loop vir jy my sjambok terug gee nie asb [19:36] <hibana> Kilos: ek loop? Hoekom sal ek nou wil loop? [19:36] <Kilos> o gaan jy bly [19:37] * hibana gaan vir die oom sit en loer wannerr hy slaap en waneer hy opstaan [19:37] <Kilos> mooi [19:45] <inetpro> wat maak die oom vandag? [19:46] <Kilos> allerande goed [19:52] <inetpro> superfly: do you think it would really matter whether a mailing list ends with @lists.launchpad.net or with @lists.ubuntu.com ? [19:58] <inetpro> Kilos: let's stop whing and just do it [19:58] <inetpro> whining* [19:58] <Kilos> ok do it [19:59] <Kilos> too much rtfs for me at this time [19:59] <inetpro> lemme see whether I can even create a team as a non-official [20:00] <Kilos> you are an official [20:00] <Kilos> ai! all i taught you, and you still know nothing [20:01] <inetpro> Kilos: give me a description [20:01] <Kilos> of? [20:02] <Kilos> africa team [20:02] <inetpro> a sentence or two [20:02] <Kilos> maybe with caps [20:02] <Kilos> this team is responsible for the building and launching of ubuntu-africa.info [20:02] <inetpro> no man [20:03] <inetpro> no [20:03] <Kilos> sigh [20:03] <inetpro> this team is not for the web development [20:03] <Kilos> what kinda sentence are you looking for [20:03] <Kilos> oh [20:03] <inetpro> this team is like the ubuntu-za mailing list team [20:03] <Kilos> for what then [20:03] <inetpro> anyone and everyone welcome [20:04] <inetpro> or not? [20:04] <Kilos> ya same as ours [20:04] <Kilos> everyone is welcome to help newcomers to ubuntu and linux in general [20:04] <hibana> dink oom, dink [20:04] <hibana> gee vir die man goeie terugvoer [20:05] <Kilos> and spread ubuntu community spirit as far as possible [20:05] <Kilos> you want more? [20:06] <inetpro> Ubuntu South Africa is a community for all Ubuntu users, developers and enthusiasts in South Africa. [20:06] <Kilos> and noobs [20:06] <inetpro> Ubuntu Africa is a community for all Ubuntu users, developers and enthusiasts in Africa [20:06] <Kilos> hehe [20:06] <Kilos> yip [20:06] <inetpro> copy, paste and edit action [20:07] <Kilos> good that saves time [20:07] <Kilos> i like copy pasting [20:07] <inetpro> Membership policy: Open Team, Delegated Team, Moderated Team or Restricted Team? [20:07] <Kilos> open [20:08] <inetpro> Open Team: Membership is inclusive; any user or team can join, and no approval is required. [20:08] <Kilos> maybe moderated but i dont think thats necessary [20:08] <inetpro> Delegated Team: Membership is inclusive; any user or team can join, but team administrators approve direct memberships. [20:08] <inetpro> Moderated Team: Membership is exclusive; users and exclusive teams may ask to join. [20:08] <Kilos> delegated [20:08] <inetpro> yeah, I think so also [20:09] <inetpro> Subscription period? [20:09] <Kilos> well [20:09] <inetpro> Number of days a new subscription lasts before expiring. You can customize the length of an individual subscription when approving it. Leave this empty or set to 0 for subscriptions to never expire. [20:09] <Kilos> long [20:09] <inetpro> 2 years / 3 years? [20:10] <Kilos> 3 [20:10] <inetpro> or more? [20:10] <Kilos> what do you think [20:10] <inetpro> Maaz: 3*365 [20:10] <Maaz> inetpro: 1095 [20:10] <inetpro> 3 is a long time [20:10] <Kilos> not really [20:10] <inetpro> what is it at ubuntu-za? [20:11] <Kilos> look how many of our guys forgot to renew after 2 years [20:11] <inetpro> don't we have to renew every year? [20:11] <Kilos> 2 at za [20:11] <inetpro> hmm... [20:11] <hibana> oom, wat eg ons nou? [20:11] <hibana> seg* [20:12] <Kilos> ek dink 3 [20:12] <hibana> ai! [20:12] <Kilos> wat [20:12] * hibana sukkel met die kappie [20:12] <Kilos> if you want it for one year thats fine too [20:12] <inetpro> ok, let's make that 3 [20:12] <Kilos> lol [20:13] <inetpro> When someone's membership is about to expire, notify them and: [20:13] <inetpro> invite them to apply for renewal, or [20:13] <inetpro> invite them to renew their own membership [20:13] <Kilos> and make the renewal reminder a real nuisance one so it easier to renew than forget [20:13] <Squirm> Hello [20:13] <Kilos> hi Squirm [20:13] <hibana> wb Squirm [20:14] <Kilos> Squirm you missing all the action [20:14] <inetpro> I'd say invite them to renew their own membership [20:14] <Kilos> ya thats fine [20:14] <inetpro> Self renewal period: (Optional) Number of days members can renew their own membership. The number can be from 1 to 3650 (10 years). [20:15] <Kilos> this is on launchpad right? [20:15] <inetpro> Kilos: yep [20:15] <inetpro> Kilos: this is not the mailing list, just yet [20:15] <Kilos> make that 3 years too then i think [20:15] <Kilos> oh [20:15] <inetpro> this is the LP team [20:15] <Kilos> oh [20:15] <Squirm> I never renewed because they reminder became a nuisance, it bugged me terribly [20:15] <hibana> ja oom [20:16] <Kilos> shame on you Squirm [20:16] <hibana> hierdie is vir die loopplank [20:16] <Kilos> renew on first reminder and its over [20:16] <Squirm> No [20:16] <Squirm> I'll renew when I want to renew :/ [20:16] <Kilos> ya but you forget [20:17] <hibana> hmm... [20:17] <inetpro> Squirm: I'm sure we can change it later, what do you suggest for now? [20:17] <Kilos> when i get the first reminder i renew then its done [20:17] <Squirm> 1 reminder a month before an another a day before? [20:18] <Squirm> or three days before [20:18] <inetpro> that's not the option [20:18] <Kilos> lol [20:18] <inetpro> option is: [20:18] <inetpro> Self renewal period: (Optional) Number of days members can renew their own membership. The number can be from 1 to 3650 (10 years) [20:19] <Kilos> ya thats the period not the reminders [20:20] <inetpro> shall I make that the maximum [20:20] <inetpro> ? [20:20] <Kilos> your choice [20:20] * hibana votes for maximum [20:20] <Kilos> thats good for young guys [20:20] <inetpro> Squirm: you've been outvoted [20:21] <Kilos> lol [20:21] <inetpro> now please go join the team [20:21] <inetpro> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa [20:21] <Kilos> i think its lekker to not have to worry about renewing at all [20:21] <Squirm> Yes, I like that idea [20:22] <Squirm> Only thing is that it gets rid of people who aren;t active anymore [20:22] <Squirm> which is a plus [20:22] <Kilos> done [20:22] <inetpro> This team does not use Launchpad to host a mailing list. [20:22] * inetpro goes ahead to "Create a mailing list" [20:22] <Kilos> g pro [20:22] <Kilos> go too [20:22] <Kilos> i need a new keyboard [20:23] <Kilos> this one makes many typos [20:23] <Kilos> hehe [20:23] <inetpro> The mailing list is being created and will be available for use in a few minutes. [20:28] <Kilos> inetpro dont forget to add all this to your wiki page for you membership application hey [20:28] <inetpro> Kilos: mailing list is there now [20:28] <inetpro> refresh the page [20:29] <inetpro> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa [20:30] <Kilos> do you see me there [20:31] <inetpro> yep [20:31] <Kilos> yay i didnt break it [20:32] <inetpro> Kilos: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-africa/msg00000.html [20:33] <Kilos> well done sir [20:33] <Kilos> ty [20:33] <Kilos> now to add it with bzr [20:34] <hibana> waarvan praat die oom nou? [20:34] <Kilos> the list address to be added to site [20:34] <Kilos> oh is that it [20:35] <inetpro> Kilos: that is as simple as it gets [20:35] <Kilos> wow [20:36] <Kilos> good work young man ty [20:36] <superfly> we have mailing lists with the site hosting too [20:36] <Kilos> whew [20:37] <Kilos> we forgot about that [20:37] <Kilos> inetpro comment [20:37] <inetpro> superfly: oh, hmm... [20:38] <inetpro> superfly: why you say that only now? [20:38] <superfly> any mailing list will do [20:38] <Kilos> lol [20:38] <superfly> inetpro: uh, I've only just looked at IRC now? [20:38] <inetpro> :-) [20:39] <Kilos> now we need to dev a good advertising campain [20:39] <inetpro> Kilos: did you receive my "Hello Africa" message? [20:39] <Kilos> well duh [20:40] <inetpro> in your mailbox [20:40] <Kilos> duh [20:40] <Kilos> of course [20:40] <inetpro> duh? [20:40] <inetpro> can you respond to test whether it works [20:40] <inetpro> as a late subscriber the fly would not have gotten it [20:41] <Kilos> it opens in chrome here [20:41] <inetpro> no man, in thunderbird [20:41] <inetpro> did you not get a message in thunderbird? [20:42] <Kilos> i got the mail in thunderbird and ticked the link and it opened in chrome [20:42] <inetpro> no, just reply [20:43] <Kilos> i got three mails [20:43] <Kilos> which one must i reply to [20:44] <inetpro> the one with subject "Hello Africa" [20:44] <inetpro> as for the others, RTFS [20:44] <hibana> vertel hom inetpro [20:44] <Kilos> lol i see im approved and admin [20:44] <inetpro> \o/ [20:44] <Kilos> what does that mean [20:45] <inetpro> it means you've read one of the messages [20:45] <Kilos> i read all three [20:45] * inetpro joking [20:45] <inetpro> Kilos: it means you will get to approve members when they want to subscribe [20:45] <Kilos> but its useless i tick the subscribe link [20:46] <Kilos> i understand that [20:46] <Kilos> more work for me [20:46] <hibana> inetpro: hy wil he jy moet alles doen [20:46] <inetpro> ai! [20:47] <Kilos> ja hibana hy wil my gou dooi [20:47] <Kilos> before renewal even [20:47] <Kilos> i really like hibana such and understanding young man [20:48] <Kilos> and with good foresight [20:48] <inetpro> Kilos: I don't think you want to wait for me to approve each one of them [20:48] <Kilos> inetpro he sees right through you [20:48] * inetpro sometimes goes AWOL [20:48] <Kilos> yaya ill do it [20:49] <hibana> Kilos: daar's een uitstaande vraag [20:49] <Kilos> ? [20:50] <hibana> hy het vir jou gevra om die epos te antwoord met die onderwerp "Hello Africa" [20:51] <inetpro> ai! [20:51] <Kilos> i dont see that [20:52] <inetpro> hmm.. [20:52] <inetpro> 04/12 22:40:06 <Kilos> duh [20:52] <inetpro> 04/12 22:40:12 <Kilos> of course [20:52] <Kilos> lol [20:53] <inetpro> and that was after: 04/12 22:39:42 <inetpro> Kilos: did you receive my "Hello Africa" message? [20:53] <Kilos> i see new mailing list and approved and admin [20:53] <Kilos> i saw hello africa in browser [20:54] <inetpro> Kilos: please check your SPAM folder [20:54] <Kilos> even thats gone [20:56] <Kilos> i have no idea how to do that in the bird [20:56] <Kilos> done see spam anywhere [20:56] <Kilos> oh up there [20:56] <Kilos> sigh [20:57] <inetpro> sigh? [20:58] <inetpro> I clearly can't see my own message when I send it, question is whether subscribers receive it [20:58] <Kilos> nope [20:58] <inetpro> superfly: can you check your mailbox please [20:58] <superfly> I see [20:58] * inetpro just sent a 2nd message to ubuntu-africa@lists.launchpad.net [20:59] <inetpro> can you reply to it please [20:59] <superfly> oh, I don't see any mails from you yet, just approvals [20:59] <Kilos> i have it [20:59] <inetpro> hmm... maybe there's a bit of a delay [21:00] <hibana> Kilos: you have it? [21:00] <hibana> wb Tonberry [21:00] <Kilos> mailing list , post to unsubscribe and more help [21:01] <inetpro> huh uh! [21:01] <Tonberry> hi [21:01] <Kilos> 4 links in it [21:01] <Kilos> Does this thing even land in subscriber's mailboxes? [21:02] <inetpro> ah [21:02] <inetpro> nou praat ons, waar het jy dit gesien Kilos? [21:02] <Kilos> its working i think [21:02] <inetpro> antwoord die ding [21:02] <Kilos> bo die 4 lienks [21:03] <inetpro> wat is die onderwerp? [21:04] <inetpro> nnoooo!!!!! [21:04] <Kilos> sigh [21:04] <Kilos> i just hit reply [21:04] <inetpro> Kilos: did it automatically select reply to Gustav? [21:04] <inetpro> ai! [21:04] <Kilos> yes [21:05] <inetpro> ok [21:05] <Kilos> i dont see an option for reply to list [21:05] <inetpro> guess I can't have my cake and eat it [21:05] <Kilos> lol [21:06] <hibana> dis 'n begin Kilos , dis 'n begin [21:06] <Kilos> ek stem [21:06] <Kilos> doesnt lp give that option [21:06] <hibana> vra nou vir al jou vriende an hulle maters om deel te neem [21:07] <Kilos> se die pro moet daai links weer mooi hier na mekaar sit [21:07] <inetpro> hibana: it's 'en' not 'an' [21:08] <inetpro> Kilos: it's simple, just tell your friends to join us at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa [21:09] <Kilos> oh just the one [21:11] <inetpro> Kilos: yep [21:11] <inetpro> and btw, it's fixed [21:12] <inetpro> E-mail notifications for this team should go to: The Launchpad mailing list for this team - ubuntu-africa@lists.launchpad.net [21:12] <inetpro> was set to: Each member individually [21:12] <inetpro> Kilos: see your inbox now [21:12] <Kilos> clever man [21:12] <Kilos> first one joined already [21:13] <hibana> Kilos: ek dink jy is die slim ene, daai inetpro outjie sukkel maar [21:13] <inetpro> ai! [21:14] <Kilos> nee man hy is baie slim, net n stoot nodig nou en dan hibana [21:14] <Kilos> maar ons is nou twee so dit kan net beter gaan [21:17] <inetpro> well done Kilos [21:18] <inetpro> d4rk-5c0rp changed by msdomdonner from Proposed to Approved [21:18] <Kilos> send a new testing, old one doesnt show options [21:19] <Kilos> ah that was easy [21:19] <Kilos> he is the other elacheche brother [21:19] <Kilos> bedis and anis [21:20] <Kilos> inetpro i may be stupid but im not a fool [21:20] <Kilos> just rtfs is hard work [21:21] <inetpro> Kilos: hmm... no, I think I misunderstood the option [21:21] <Kilos> npe [21:21] <Kilos> nope too [21:22] <inetpro> I think that was to set the contact address for the admins [21:22] <Kilos> still no list option [21:22] <inetpro> don't see another place where I can change that [21:23] <Kilos> look at lp help [21:23] <Kilos> hehe [21:23] <Kilos> google is your friend [21:27] <Squirm> Maaz: ping [21:27] <Maaz> Squirm: pong [21:27] * inetpro going to hit the sack [21:28] <Kilos> night inetpro ty for all the hard work [21:28] <Kilos> sleep tight [21:28] <hibana> Maaz: watch him [21:28] <Maaz> I'll keep one eye on him for you hibana [21:29] <Kilos> lol [21:30] <Squirm> It seems my internet died [21:30] <Squirm> But just my browsing [21:30] <Kilos> hibana jy moet ook gaan slaap [21:30] <Kilos> wow Squirm [21:30] * Squirm shrugs [21:31] <inetpro> Squirm: ?? [21:32] <Squirm> FNB and 22Seven won't load [21:32] <Squirm> Seems other websites are though [21:32] <inetpro> ahh... [21:32] <inetpro> good night [21:32] <Squirm> YouTube, Facebook, both alright [21:32] <Kilos> sleep tight inetpro [21:32] <Squirm> Something died somewhere [21:32] <Kilos> ty [21:33] <Kilos> maybe they are on the load shedding path Squirm [21:33] <Squirm> That's bad IT work then [21:33] <Squirm> besides, Load Shedding ended at 10 [21:33] <Kilos> lol [21:34] <Squirm> PING www.fnb.co.za (196.11.125.149): 56 data bytes [21:34] <Squirm> Request timeout for icmp_seq 0 [21:34] * Squirm shrugs [21:34] <Squirm> Bed time I guess [21:34] <Squirm> Chat tomorrow [21:34] <Kilos> night lad [21:45] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.701375

2015-04-12-#kubuntu-devel

[01:23] <darthanubis> http://pasteboard.co/2utSJCgj.png [02:06] <ScottK> Riddell: We don't normally release SRUs over the weekend. I'll do it on Monday. [02:24] <ahoneybun> that would be installed with kubuntu-restricted package [02:25] <ahoneybun> darthanubis: ^ [04:33] <darthanubis> Ahoneybun, problem is, it's not being installed even though the package says it's installed [08:57] <lordievader> Good morning. [13:07] <xennex81> I am going to be shortly installing kde plasma5 again with a live dvd of kubuntu 15.04 beta 2, any wishes? [13:17] <lordievader> xennex81: See iso.qa.ubuntu.com ;) [13:24] <xennex81> thanks, they just want a regular install and see if everything goes okay. I'll just note the things that were mentioned to see if anything is missing, but these things have always worked well. [13:24] <xennex81> and I always do kinda... adjusted setups [13:25] <xennex81> which are not representative of the design smooth install [13:45] <xennex81> kubuntu live session :p [13:58] <BluesKaj> Hey folks [13:58] <xennex81> hia [13:58] <xennex81> hiya [14:02] <xennex81> i'm just spending my time clearning up my system... which I had a regular mouse [14:04] <xennex81> how are you? [14:39] <xennex81> how is everyone [14:39] <xennex81> except me [17:14] * sick_rimmit Appears in a Whooosh of 15.04 Plasma 5 [17:15] <sick_rimmit> Ooooh Shiny, New, Lovelies [18:00] <darthanubis> http://pasteboard.co/2utSJCgj.png [18:00] <darthanubis> http://pasteboard.co/2w0NCYc5.png [18:30] <lordievader> \o/ [18:31] <lordievader> sick_rimmit: No issues? [18:31] <lordievader> darthanubis: Could you get the apt version of that message? [18:51] <sick_rimmit> lordievader: Hi [18:51] <sick_rimmit> Sorry just back from dinner [18:51] <lordievader> o/ [18:52] <sick_rimmit> Only 1 tiny issue, when installing. I tried to go straight to Install Kubuntu, rather than Try Kubuntu [18:52] <sick_rimmit> It got stuck when detecting the disk setup [18:52] <sick_rimmit> I then used Try Kubuntu, and then installer from the desktop, and all was good [18:53] <lordievader> Hmm, odd. [18:53] <sick_rimmit> TBH, I think it's my Odd COmbo of SSD, 1TB Sata, and External USB DVD, and USB Installer stick [18:53] <sick_rimmit> That gave it the issues, so I didn't look to raise this as a bug [18:54] <sick_rimmit> I am very pleased, as the new Plasma desktop is faster and more responsive than 14.10 I was using previous, and that's important [18:54] <sick_rimmit> to me because this laptop is about 8 years old [19:00] <soee> ;] [19:01] <soee> Riddell: we suggest users LTS over latest ? [19:02] <KDDA> has anyone else noticed an increase in the time it takes to boot to login? [19:02] <frecel> Riddell: I tried building a package from scratch with no previous version with no success [19:03] <soee> KDDA: sure, after switch to systemd [19:03] <ahoneybun> KDDA: on Beta 2? [19:03] <KDDA> any idea why? [19:03] <soee> frecel: how was the digicam packaging yesterday ? [19:04] <frecel> soee: good, it builds on lp [19:04] <KDDA> yes it did start getting longer from it was switched to systemd [19:04] <soee> frecel: cool :) [19:04] <yofel> soee: I don't think we recommend either one? [19:04] <soee> KDDA: try asking on #ubuntu+1 for this [19:05] <soee> yofel: im asking because of teh items order on Download page [19:05] <yofel> hm, true.. [19:06] <yofel> well, I would leave it as it is. With plasma5 in the state as it is, random users will probably be more happy with the LTS [19:07] <darthanubis> lordievader: Thank you. That was the problem, the gui was not showing the agreemnt page to accept or refuse to use non free font package. The cmdline did, and I accepted, and the fonts were pulled and installed.All done, no errors. [19:07] <darthanubis> All fonts downloaded and installed. [19:07] <darthanubis> Setting up ttf-mscorefonts-installer (3.4+nmu1ubuntu2 [19:08] <yofel> eh? That sounds like a bug in debconf.. [19:09] <soee> report ;] [19:21] <sick_rimmit> KDDA Are you connecting to WiFi ? [19:21] <KDDA> sometimes [19:22] <KDDA> mostly ethernet [19:22] <sick_rimmit> KDDA: I noticed yesterday that it waited to bring up the WiFi before I got the login [19:22] <lordievader> darthanubis: Ah, that is annoying. [19:22] <sick_rimmit> KDDA: Today when I booted, however it was so fast, I was shocked. I have an SSD, but I did on 14.10 but 15.04 is certainly faster [19:23] <KDDA> I have SSD too [19:23] <KDDA> it was lightening quick before systemd [19:23] <sick_rimmit> KDDA: Well it might be worth having a look at dmesg [19:27] <yofel> there's also this systemd-analyze thing, that might show something [19:28] <KDDA> yofel: yeah [19:29] <KDDA> I had exim4.service which took 30 seconds [19:29] <KDDA> and Network manager [19:29] <KDDA> deffo notice the difference [19:29] <KDDA> Startup finished in 3.192s (kernel) + 7.053s (userspace) = 10.246s [19:30] <lordievader> exim? On a desktop? [19:30] <KDDA> yeah, I dunno why thats installed [19:30] <KDDA> its gone now [19:31] <KDDA> I was playing around with OwnCloud, maybe it installed it :/ [19:44] <yofel> probably, I think exim4 is apts usual choice if it has to install a random mail server [19:45] <KDDA> dont need it, so got rid [19:45] <lordievader> It is somewhat strange to install a mail server on a desktop ;) [19:45] <KDDA> disabled modem manager too [19:48] <sick_rimmit> lordievader: Exim Yes I spotted that too [19:49] * lordievader starts to get curious if he has it too... [19:49] * lordievader phew [19:50] <sick_rimmit> dpkg --get-selections | grep exim says I'm good too [19:51] <soee> sgclark: KF 5.9 ready ? :) [19:51] <yofel> aptitude why might tell where it came from if you see it again [19:52] <soee> what is this exim4 ? [19:52] <yofel> but you easily get it if you install something just slightly web related [19:52] <lordievader> sick_rimmit: Shorthand would be 'dpkg -l|grep exim', slightly less typing :) [19:52] <yofel> soee: mail server [19:52] <soee> hmm [19:52] <sgclark> soee: yes sorry needs testing [19:52] * yofel usually sticks to postfix [19:52] <sgclark> I use exim4 [19:53] * lordievader has msmtp for forwarding to google. [19:53] <soee> sgclark: what ppa ? [19:53] <sgclark> next staging [19:54] <soee> updating [19:56] <KDDA> if you think your systemd is slow, use this command "systemd-analyze blame" [19:57] <KDDA> ranks by time [19:57] <Riddell> frecel: what happened? [19:59] <sick_rimmit> lordievader: Thanks, I have trouble remembering which switch does which, so I've developed this habit of typing the long version. [20:00] <sick_rimmit> I hate it when chown wants -R and chmod wants -r too Bah!! [20:00] <sgclark> Riddell: assuming you are jr, the spamming should stop lol sorry [20:00] <lordievader> sick_rimmit: Yeah, those are tricky. [20:00] <yofel> yeah, jr would be him usually [20:01] <sgclark> hehe my ci was spamming him :( [20:02] <yofel> heh [20:04] <soee> sgclark: look like smooth upgrade, great work :) [20:05] <soee> *looks [20:12] <Riddell> sgclark: I'm not jr on irc, that was some other poor soul :) [20:13] <sgclark> oh no! lol [20:13] <Anonymauz> Hello! I am using kubuntu 15.04, i have en and ru keyboard layouts. When i switch to another window or press Enter in browser text edit field - my layout switches to default(en_US). I have "Global switching policy" in keyboard settings. What's wrong with it? [20:13] <Anonymauz> btw, when i double-click window, layout changes to default(en_US) too [20:13] <sgclark> well I turned it for for now. [20:13] <Anonymauz> [23:11] <Anonymauz> any ideas? [20:13] <lordievader> sgclark: Hehe, some random person got all your ci messages? [20:13] <sgclark> lol seems so [20:14] <sgclark> well it gets the info from kde identity.. so [20:14] <sgclark> not much I can do there [20:14] <lordievader> Hehe [20:16] <Anonymauz> nobody can help? [20:17] <sgclark> possibly not today, it is Sunday. I don't use other languages sorry :( [20:25] <soee> Anonymauz: this hapens in webbrowser ? [20:25] <Anonymauz> yes [20:25] <Anonymauz> but not only there [20:26] <Anonymauz> now it happens even if i click another area of the screen [20:26] <soee> maybe browser forces language and it has osme infliance on keyboard layout [20:26] <Anonymauz> maybe i have problem not with keyboard, but window settings.. can't find a solution yet tho [20:29] <frecel> Riddell: well I decided to try to build a package for this https://github.com/yvt/openspades [20:30] <frecel> Riddell: and I managed to make a deb file but it doesn't include binaries [20:30] <frecel> I'm guessing it's because the file structure is different than most programs with that mk folder [20:46] <soee> sgclark: do you plan to work on Plasma 5.3 beta ? [20:47] <sgclark> sure. but not today [20:47] <sgclark> I just want one day off lol [20:47] <soee> sgclark: sure thing, just asking :) [20:48] <sgclark> np, it is kde that is doing the most overworking [20:48] <Anonymauz> how can i reset all layout preferences? to the beginning state [20:57] <Riddell> frecel: debuild -S and give us the source files to look at [21:06] <frecel> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10811339/ [21:13] <Riddell> frecel: ok, now give us the .dsc .debian.tar and .orig.tar [21:24] <frecel> Riddell: I guess everybody decided to start calling me now [21:24] <frecel> including the RCMP [21:35] <soee> Riddell: KF 5.9 are fine, installed without any problems, will they make into vivid ? [21:37] <Riddell> soee: undecided as yet [21:37] <Riddell> soee: have you tested plasma-nm ? [21:38] <Riddell> presumably you have by virtue of talking here [23:52] <hggdh> sync

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.708041

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-br

[00:44] <Mouver> alguém participou da maratona de programação em uberlandia hoje? [04:07] <astroo-> ciao pessoal [12:52] <estranhu> olá [12:53] <estranhu> Tudo certo povo? [15:20] <eumesmo> hi [15:26] <JToledo> Bom dia galera... [15:41] <lieber> diaa [15:53] <Dead_Thinker> Bom dia :) [16:09] <mirqui> bom tarde :) [17:49] <Guest87245> alguém usa ou usou FFTW para fortran? [18:30] <Guest87245> alguém usa ou usou FFTW para fortran? [19:19] <ule> FFTW [19:19] <ule> nem sei q isso mano [19:19] <mirqui> fortram é uma linguagem das antigas [19:20] <mirqui> acho que antes do cobol [19:20] <mirqui> mas não sei se ainda usam [19:24] <ule> to ligado [19:24] <ule> acho q so alguns bancos ainda tem algum legado com isso [19:25] <ule> pelo menos eu sei q o HSBC ainda tinha [19:25] <ule> mas estavam migrando tudo para dotnet e java [19:25] <mirqui> eu ví algo sobre esta linguagem a uns 35 anos atraz [19:26] <mirqui> no tempo que o computador era ligado na tv [19:27] <ule> mirqui: vc lida com programacao? [19:27] <mirqui> ahaha não , só sou curioso [19:27] <mirqui> vc já ouviu falar das revistas imput? [19:27] <mirqui> input [19:27] <ule> mirqui: nunca [19:28] <mirqui> eram do tempo do cp400 , 500 , mmx , cinclair [19:28] <mirqui> nelas eu ví algo sobre fortram e cobol [19:29] <mirqui> mas só citar , nada de especial [20:50] <astroo-> ola pessoal [22:55] <anaconda> Boa noite [22:56] <astroo-> ola [22:56] <Guest66601> Alguem poderia me informar, qual sera a nova versao LTS do Ubuntu??? [22:56] <Guest66601> depois da 14.04 [22:57] <astroo-> 14.10 e existe a 15 em versao beta [22:58] <Guest66601> mas me refiro LTS pronta? [22:58] <astroo-> 14.10 [22:59] <Guest66601> Ela é LTS ??? [23:00] <astroo-> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_14.10 [23:03] <Guest66601> O que encontrei é que será a 16.04 !!!!!! [23:03] <astroo-> ok [23:04] <Guest66601> caramba vou esperar mais 02 anos [23:06] <Rudolf> tudum tz [23:07] <Rudolf> o cara não lê a documentação [23:11] <LeandroLuiz> kkkkkkkkk

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.715654

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-rs

[20:24] <cvetan> zdravo drugari. [20:24] <Atlantic777> zdravo :) [20:24] <cvetan> htedoh da vas pitam jel koristi neko phpmyadmin i koju verziju? [20:24] <cvetan> ima neko more gresaka, stalno mi iskace. [20:25] <Atlantic777> možeš li da kopiraš koje greške su u pitanju? [20:25] <Atlantic777> okači ih negde na pastebin [20:25] <cvetan> evo sad cu. [20:26] <cvetan> evo npr. kad hocu da exportujem bazu: [20:26] <cvetan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10811117/ [20:27] <Atlantic777> lepo piše šta je :) [20:27] <Atlantic777> file_exists(): open_basedir restriction in effect. File(/usr/share/php/tcpdf/tcpdf.php) is not within the allowed path(s): (/usr/share/phpmyadmin/:/etc/phpmyadmin/:/var/lib/phpmyadmin/:/usr/share/php/php-gettext/:/usr/share/javascript/:/usr/share/php/tcpdf/) [20:28] <cvetan> ja ne razumem. :) [20:28] <Atlantic777> ok, ajd proveriću časkom još šta kažu interneti pa se javljam [20:28] <cvetan> nista nisam petljao sa phpmyadminom. [20:28] <cvetan> instalirao sam samo noviju verziju od one u 12.04. [20:28] <cvetan> ali preko proverenog ppa. [20:28] <Atlantic777> hehe to je takav spoj tehnologija koje ne volim da ne mogu da ti opišem [20:29] <Atlantic777> strašno ne volim ni php ni mysql [20:29] <cvetan> ne volim ni ja. [20:29] <cvetan> java mi je prvi izbor. [20:29] <cvetan> ali predmet na faksu se radi u php-u. [20:29] <cvetan> :) [20:29] <cvetan> ali za cudo, ne baguje ovako na windozi. [20:29] <cvetan> workbench radi normalno. [20:30] <cvetan> valjda zato sto je za win pisan u c#. [20:30] <cvetan> a na linuxu kresuje svakih 30 sekundi. [20:30] <cvetan> :D [20:30] <Atlantic777> e, javu ne volim koliko php i mysql zajedno :D [20:31] <cvetan> zasto? :D [20:31] <Atlantic777> nadam se da ćeš se maknuti od php i jave, a onda će ti sve biti jasno [20:31] <Atlantic777> java je suviše masna, php je nakaradan [20:32] <cvetan> php ne osporavam. :) [20:32] <Atlantic777> blah, nedavno sam na blogu pisao "why svn sucks" [20:32] <Atlantic777> mogao bih i po jedan post za javu, php i mysql [20:32] <Atlantic777> nego, koju verziju php-a i phpmyadmin-a teraš? [20:32] <Atlantic777> izgleda da tu nešto nije baš kompatibilno jedno sa drugim [20:33] <Atlantic777> instalirao si iz repoa? [20:33] <cvetan> php 5.5.23. [20:33] <cvetan> phpmyadmin 4.3.8 [20:34] <Atlantic777> btw, da li koristiš to samo u lokalu za testiranje ili je negde public? [20:34] <cvetan> samo u lokalu. [20:34] <Atlantic777> hm, ok [20:34] <Atlantic777> hajde onda da probamo da ga zbudžimo [20:34] <Atlantic777> možeš li da okačiš: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini [20:34] <Atlantic777> pretpostavljam da koristiš apache [20:35] <cvetan> aham. [20:35] <cvetan> evo sad cu. [20:35] <Atlantic777> inače, ako već koristiš php, bolja varijanta ti je php-fpm + nginx [20:35] <Atlantic777> ni apache ne volimo :) [20:36] <cvetan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10811160/ [20:37] <Atlantic777> hm, to izgleda ok tu [20:38] <cvetan> pa to je bio i moj utisak. [20:39] <cvetan> jer nisam nista dirao, a ovo su proverene ppa koje pakuju likovi iz debian package team. [20:39] <cvetan> tipa za mysql i php isti. [20:41] <Atlantic777> pf, ne znam, stvarno se nisam igrao sa php administracijom [20:41] <Atlantic777> piše greška, mislim da treba da ubiješ taj open_basedir restriction [20:41] <Atlantic777> on postoji u php.ini i apache.conf [20:41] <Atlantic777> sad treba da naloviš gde je setovan i da staviš na none [20:41] <Atlantic777> time bi ga zakrpio da radi [20:41] <Atlantic777> za lokal je to ok rešenje [20:42] <Atlantic777> probaj na #lugons kanalu [20:42] <Atlantic777> možda se javi neko ko može više da ti pomogne [20:43] <cvetan> ok, hvala na trudu. [20:43] <cvetan> ;) [20:43] <Atlantic777> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27465492/export-option-gives-strange-errors-in-4-3-2deb0-1-version-for-ubuntu [20:44] <cvetan> i ja samd pronasao ovaj odgovor, samo na drugom mestu. :) [20:44] <cvetan> http://quabr.com/27465492/export-option-gives-strange-errors-in-4-3-2deb0-1-version-for-ubuntu [20:46] <cvetan> sljaka. :D [20:46] <cvetan> ne baca sad nikakvu gresku. [20:46] <cvetan> hvala jos jednom. [20:47] <Atlantic777> np [20:50] <cvetan> sve je uglavnom tako neke gluposti, pogresne putanje i ostalo. [20:50] <cvetan> tako je bacao neku gresku isto za neku konstantu, pma__central_columns. [20:50] <cvetan> isto nije bila dobro podesena. [20:50] <cvetan> ali na to sam navikao, znam da moram da popravim cim instaliram. :D [20:51] <Atlantic777> A jesi li prijavio bug i zašto nisi? :D [20:52] <cvetan> vec je prijavljen bio cini mi se. [20:52] <cvetan> vec dosta ima od toga. [20:52] <cvetan> kad sam trazio resenje, mislim da je vec bio prijavljen. [20:52] <Atlantic777> i niko nije rešio? [20:55] <cvetan> ocigledno nije, s obzirom da se i dalje pojavljuje sa ovim ppa. [20:55] <Atlantic777> obično se takve stvari brzo rešavaju [20:55] <Atlantic777> ne bi smelo da brljavi [20:55] <Atlantic777> desi se da uleti neka takva glupost, ali da se provlači iz verzije u verziju, to već ne bi smelo [20:56] <cvetan> nemam pojma, mada moguce da je i zbog 12.04. [20:56] <cvetan> jer su putanje od php 5.3 dosta drugacije od one u 5.5 php. [20:57] <cvetan> mada ako je ppa za precise onda treba da bude sve u redu sto ti kazes. [20:57] <Atlantic777> ako ti se poklapaju verzije za php, phpmyadmin i apache onda bi sve trebalo da bude ok [20:57] <Atlantic777> mislim, uglavnom se pazi da se ne razbuca kombinacija [20:58] <Atlantic777> zbog toga se i izdaju samo patchevi za određene verzije, ne radi se update iz verzije u verziiju u okviru jednog ubuntu izdanja [20:58] <Atlantic777> (osim backports za LTS) [21:00] <cvetan> doduse ova ppa za phpmyadmin ne vodi ista ekipa koja ova dva za php, apache i mysql 5.5. [21:00] <cvetan> mozda je u tome stvar. [21:00] <Atlantic777> moguće :) [21:00] <cvetan> ali ovaj u precise riznicama je bas stara i ocajna verzija. [21:01] <cvetan> i ono, moram da ga azuriram. :D [21:01] <cvetan> ne mozes sva da imas. :d [21:01] <Atlantic777> probaj da kontaktiraš likove koji održavaju taj ppa [21:01] <Atlantic777> pusti im mail, navataj ih na IRC-u [21:01] <cvetan> trazio po irc ali bas mrtvo. [21:02] <Atlantic777> kaži im kakav problem imaš, kako si rešio i predloži da u paketu koji je za precise izmene to podešavanje koje smara [21:02] <Atlantic777> pa ajd daj taj ppa odakle vučeš [21:03] <cvetan> https://launchpad.net/~tuxpoldo/+archive/ubuntu/phpmyadmin [21:03] <cvetan> ovaj je najazurniji. [21:05] <Atlantic777> rekao bih da je to ovaj lik [21:05] <Atlantic777> https://twitter.com/tuxpoldo [21:10] <Atlantic777> zapravo, nije Leo Moll pakovao ovo [21:10] <Atlantic777> Maintainer: Thijs Kinkhorst <thijs@debian.org> [21:10] <Atlantic777> Uploaders: Michal Čihař <nijel@debian.org> [21:11] <cvetan> ne mislim da ti gledas ovaj-> https://launchpad.net/~nijel/+archive/ubuntu/phpmyadmin [21:12] <cvetan> a ne ovaj pre toga pomenuti. [21:13] <Atlantic777> izgleda da je reč o istim paketima [21:13] <Atlantic777> ahd baš da proverim checksum [21:14] <Atlantic777> blah nisu iste ni verzije [21:14] <Atlantic777> ali sve u svemu, ovaj leo moll ne pakuje ove pakete [21:14] <Atlantic777> on ih je samo pokupio od ovog nijela [21:15] <Atlantic777> https://launchpad.net/~tuxpoldo/+archive/ubuntu/phpmyadmin/+files/phpmyadmin_4.3.8-0.1.dsc [21:15] <Atlantic777> skini ovo pa vidi [21:29] <cvetan> ma videcu da ga instaliram iz source-a ubuduce. [21:29] <cvetan> to je ionako samo php aplikacija.

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.731819

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-locoteams

[04:55] <Kilos> ohi nhaines DalekSec and other ubuntu peeps [05:50] <Kilos> hi jpds_ [10:36] <DalekSec> Kilos: I'm one of the Ohio folk. [11:01] <Kilos> ah ty DalekSec [11:56] <belkinsa> DalekSec, Ohio you say? Come and visit #ubuntu-us-ohio [11:56] <belkinsa> Oh, wait, DalekSec, I know you. Nevermind. [11:56] <DalekSec> belkinsa: /whois [11:57] <DalekSec> Also, -oh [11:57] <Kilos> lol [11:57] <Kilos> hi belkinsa [11:57] <belkinsa> Curse of the logging into my client and waking up for the morning. [11:57] <belkinsa> And o/ Kilos [11:58] <belkinsa> And for the Greeks and Russians, happy Easter. [14:29] <Kilos> who who i contact to find out if an address for a mailing list has been granted for ubuntu-africa? [14:30] <Kilos> last i heard neo32 applied via the planet i think he said [14:40] <Kilos> whew sorry, who do/can i contact [14:43] <JanC> the planet isn't exactly the right place to request that, I think? :) [14:43] <JanC> and I assume it has to be approved by the loco-council? [14:45] <Kilos> ah ty JanC maybe i should ask them, its for my site anyway [14:45] <JanC> als: maybe contact neo32 ? [14:45] <JanC> also* [14:46] <Kilos> he is busy with some project that keeps him away for weeks on end [14:46] <Kilos> and we are about ready to launch the site [14:47] <JanC> maybe also check loco-council meeting logs/reports? [14:47] <Kilos> ill do that thanks [14:48] <JanC> and if they approve it, it's the Canonical sysadmins who have to implement it [14:50] <Kilos> how do i get to the loco council? i see its invite only [14:51] <JanC> some of them are in here, and they have a mailing list [14:51] <Kilos> hopefully one of them sees my query [14:53] <Kilos> i suppose we can launch the site without it too and add it in later [14:53] <JanC> http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/ has their contact info [14:54] <Kilos> it isnt for an actual loco but for the whole of africas ubuntu users [14:54] <Kilos> ty for the help JanC [14:54] <JanC> and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil [14:55] <Kilos> many thanks, let me see what i can achive [15:14] <inetpro> hmm... [15:15] <inetpro> is it not just a matter of creating a mailing list for the project, what I mean is, can anyone starting a new project not just create his own mailing list? [15:24] <Kilos> the site is for ubuntu-africa [15:24] <inetpro> https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp [15:31] <JanC> inetpro: I assume he means a list on lists.ubuntu.com, not on launchpad [15:32] <JanC> (he or she) [15:34] <inetpro> JanC: are they not linked in any way? [15:35] <JanC> inetpro: not really no [15:35] <inetpro> hmm... [15:36] * inetpro thought you just create a team and as part of the admin interface you also select to create a mailing list [15:36] <Kilos> i think it will be granted because #ubuntu-africa is official [16:16] <mhall119> inetpro: you can do that through Launchpad, but your mailing list will be @lists.launchpad.net not @lists.ubuntu.com [16:57] <inetpro> ah [16:57] <inetpro> thanks mhall119 [16:57] <mhall119> np [16:58] <Kilos> mhall119 ty and may i know where you sre please [16:58] <Kilos> are [17:16] <Kilos> hi MooDoo [17:16] <MooDoo> howdy Kilos how are you? [17:17] <Kilos> good ty and you? [17:17] <MooDoo> yeah ok thanks :D [17:18] <MooDoo> just setting up bonding on my server [17:23] <mhall119> Kilos: where I'm located? [17:23] <Kilos> yessir [17:24] <Kilos> im trying to fit peeps into timezones [17:24] <Kilos> like i often said morning to nhaines when he was almost going to bed [17:24] <Kilos> hehe [17:24] <MooDoo> lol [17:42] <mhall119> Kilos: I'm in Florida, so US/Eastern [17:42] <Kilos> cool ty mhall119 [17:42] <Kilos> i think you all know i am in south africa [19:27] <Kilos> hi nizarus [19:38] <nizarus> hi Kilos [19:51] <inetpro> maak dit regtig saak of dit eindig met @lists.launchpad.net of @lists.ubuntu.com ? [19:52] <Kilos> yes its for ubuntu [19:53] <inetpro> oops, wrong language in the wrong channel [19:53] <Kilos> lol [19:53] <inetpro> would it really matter whether a mailing list ends with @lists.launchpad.net or with @lists.ubuntu.com ? [19:55] <Kilos> the channel is #ubuntu-africa and the site will be ubuntu-africa.info [19:55] <Kilos> so surely the list should match [19:55] <Kilos> im open to suggestions [19:56] <inetpro> I don't think it matters much, but that's just me [19:57] <Kilos> well lets hear what the loco council has to say about it [19:58] <inetpro> Kilos: in fact you should even be able to migrate easily [19:58] <Kilos> im easy either way but would prefer the ubuntu lists address

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.738085

2015-04-12-#xubuntu-devel

[02:28] <bluesabre> hey ochosi, was offline all day myself (reinstalling on laptop, reconfiguring home server) [02:28] <Unit193> \o/ [02:29] <bluesabre> hey Unit193 :) [08:17] <ochosi> bluesabre: i guess it's a sane thing to do every once in a while, being out all day ;) [12:05] <ochosi> bluesabre: i'm around today btw [15:58] <bluesabre> ochosi: cool, but I'm not :( [15:58] <bluesabre> gotta run again in a bit [15:58] <bluesabre> but you can ping me for things to review [16:01] <ochosi> alrighty [16:01] <ochosi> enjoy your sunday and ttyl! [16:07] <bluesabre> thanks [16:41] <Unit193> ochosi: Hiiii. ;) [16:41] <ochosi> hey Unit193 [16:42] <ochosi> why the funny greeting? did i miss something again?

ubuntu-chat

2024-05-13T22:11:08.740341

2015-04-12-#ubuntu-nl

[11:53] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: mocht je je geroepen voelen, ik ben bezig met #ubuntu supporters samen te brengen in #ubuntu-discuss [11:54] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: Sorry, ik vind #ubuntu altijd wat te druk. [11:54] <lordievader> Besided, ik gebruik geen Ubuntu :P [11:54] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: juist daarmee dat ik groepje samenbreng in #ubuntu-discuss [11:54] <lotuspsychje> voor gewone ubuntu chitchat [11:55] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: op welke Os zit je? [11:55] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: Ligt eraan op welke bak ik zit, maar meestal Gentoo. [11:56] <lotuspsychje> lekker snel en alles zelf compilen :p [11:56] <lordievader> Precies. [11:56] <lotuspsychje> voor elk wat wils he in linux [11:58] <lordievader> Voor deze laptop is het prima. [11:59] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: heb je een ssd op gentoo? [11:59] <lordievader> Nee, ik heb nergens een ssd in zitten. [11:59] <lotuspsychje> oke [13:17] <TheEagerPadawan> bestaat er programma voor documenten virtueel te printen naar een pdf [13:18] <TheEagerPadawan> en een programma of commando voor bestanden secure te wipen [13:18] <Maikel> ja alle 2 [13:18] <Maikel> 'safe to file' in linux voor pdf [13:18] <Maikel> en 'shred' of wipe voor wipen [13:20] <TheEagerPadawan> thanks on the shred [13:45] <JanC> TheEagerPadawan: shred werkt niet of toch zeker niet 100% voor moderne drives & bestandssystemen [13:45] <lordievader> Good ol' DD :D [13:46] <JanC> zelfs 'dd' is niet echt 100% veilig met veel moderne drives [13:47] <lordievader> JanC: Zou je dat uit willen leggen? [13:47] <OerHeks> Als je ze secure wil wipen, zul je ze eerst secure moeten opslaan ;-) [13:52] <JanC> lordievader: er is een hoop literatuur daarover op het internet, maar het komt er op neer dat de meeste schijven meer capaciteit hebben dan ze beweren, capaciteit die gebruikt wordt voor allerlei doeleinden waardoor er data op kan achterblijven die het OS niet direct ziet [13:52] <lordievader> Heh, good to know. Dank. [13:52] <TheEagerPadawan> zoals schrijven buiten fileparties :) [13:53] <lordievader> TheEagerPadawan: Dat ziet je OS wel. [13:53] <TheEagerPadawan> lordievader: als ze weten waar te zoeken :) [13:53] <JanC> en daarnaast is er natuurlijk ook nog het feit dat sporen op een HDD niet altijd 100% over elkaar geschreven worden, waardoor er randjes kunnen overblijven [13:54] <JanC> en "ghost"-magnetisme [13:54] <JanC> etc. [13:54] <TheEagerPadawan> https://books.google.be/books?id=VpeLJF0zdr8C&pg=PA556&lpg=PA556&dq=ntfs+fisting&source=bl&ots=mRIte3t8lG&sig=GOnkkmv0WyBWNlhRx-07ggw2FMw&hl=nl&sa=X&ei=4ngqVYCgD8bhaJfogcAL&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=ntfs%20fisting&f=false [13:54] <lordievader> Daarom doe je toch ook meerdere passes? [13:55] <JanC> lordievader: voor dat laatste helpt dat idd., zeker als je passes verschillende data gebruiken [13:55] <JanC> maar de enige 100% zekere methode voor data wissen is smelten :P [13:58] <JanC> laat ons zeggen dat het grotendeels ook afhangt van het budget van je "vijand" [13:58] <lordievader> Dat is het meestal ;) [14:00] <JanC> in elk geval: HDDs hebben meestal extra capaciteit om defecte sectoren te vervangen, maar die "uitgeschakelde" sectoren kunnen nog steeds (deels) leesbaar zijn [14:01] <JanC> en SSDs gebruiken meestal CoW + een gelijkaardig vervangsysteem voor slechte sectoren [14:02] <JanC> sommige drives hebben ook non-volatile caches [14:02] <JanC> etc. [18:34] <mysterio> Hallo allemaal, ik ben nieuw met ubuntu en loop tegen een praktisch iets aan, namelijk het volgende. Als ik bijvoorbeeld op marktplaats een foto wil selecteren uit mijn afbeeldingen, geeft hij een lijst met hele kleine pictogrammen weer, en 1 grote afbeelding. Als je 100 afbeeldingen hebt, moet je deze een voor een doorscrollen om te zien welke je nodig hebt. is het mogelijk om alle afbeeldingen als tegels weer te geven. [18:35] <mysterio> zoals dat ook mogelijk is in de ofline bestandsbrowser. die is dus anders, dan dat je online een bestand wil selecteren/openen. [18:58] <Maikel> mysterio: het wordt als zeer vervelend ervaren als je zomaar mensen prive benaderd. [19:05] <mysterio> Hallo Maikel, Ik ben nieuw op dit forum, en heb geen idee hoe het hier werkt, als ik chat zie, en een lijst met namen, krijg ik het idee dat je die mensen kan benaderen. Graag hoor ik van u hoe het wel werkt, en of u, of iemand anders mij kan helpen met mijn vraag. Inspirerende groet, Mysterio [19:06] <mysterio> Het bovenstaande wordt versterkt door de tekst boven de chatpagina "Welkom op de hulpchatpagina van Ubuntu-NL. Hier kunt u hulp vragen in ons chatkanaal #ubuntu-nl. Als u op zoek bent naar onze niet op hulp geörienteerde chatkanalen, bezoek dan de gemeenschapschatpagina." [19:08] <Maikel> dat is prima mysterio, maar wij of de meeste hang hier 24/7 [19:08] <Maikel> er komt vast wel iemand voorbij die je vragen gaat beantwoorden, maar om je een idee te geven. ik werd gepiept uit een film met je prive bericht [19:08] <mysterio> dat zijn dan lange dagen lol [19:08] <trijntje> mysterio: met welke webbrowser is dat? [19:08] <Maikel> kijk ;) [19:08] <Maikel> komt goed. [19:08] <mysterio> zowel firefox als chrome [19:09] <mysterio> ik werk met ubuntu 14.10 als ik het goed heb, de recentste [19:10] <mysterio> ik heb hem door maikel, werkt prima zo! [19:11] <Maikel> enjoy the ride. [19:11] <mysterio> I wil, and learn on the way of the ride [19:16] <pjotter> mysterio: Ik heb even gekeken naar dat probleem van jou. Het ziet ernaar uit dat dit (nog) niet opgelost kan worden. Maar er zijn wel heel veel mensen die dezelfde problemen ondervinden dus ik vermoed dat dit nog wel een keertje veranderd gaat worden. [19:16] <pjotter> jouWWW :D [19:17] <pjotter> nee [19:17] <pjotter> lama [19:17] <pjotter> :D [19:18] <mysterio> blij te lezen dat ik niet de enige ben, heeft dit met ubuntu, de webbrowser, of de combinatie van de 2 te maken? [19:19] <pjotter> De webbrowser kiest automatisch de file_picker van het systeem. In dit geval (waarschijnlijk) de zogenaamde "GTK file chooser". Die ondersteunt simpelweg nog niet de functionaliteit van het weergeven van thumbnails. [19:20] <mysterio> binnen het eigen bestandssysteem wel, vandaar dat ik het vreemd vindt dat het via uploaden van bestanden niet werkt. [19:20] <pjotter> Je kunt in firefox wel instellen dat je de 'eigen/firefox' file picker wilt: about:config -> ui.allow_platform_file_picker= false. Maar daar wordt je ook al niet vrolijker van :D [19:21] <pjotter> Die is, zo mogelijk, nog erger. [19:21] <mysterio> wat zijn dan de neven effecten waar je niet vrolijk van wordt uit eigen ervaring? [19:21] <pjotter> Ziet er gewoon niet uit. [19:21] <pjotter> En heeft ook niet de functionaliteit van thumbnails. [19:22] <trijntje> mysterio: je kan proberen een foto vanuit je pc naar firefox te slepen, dat wil ook nog wel eens werken [19:22] <mysterio> Duidelijk, is dit een nationaal of internationaal gebrek aan functionaliteit binnen ubuntu [19:22] <trijntje> als tijdelijke oplossing [19:22] <pjotter> Een oplossing zou misschine liggen in het veranderen van de default systeem file chooser. Maar ik weet niet goed of dat überhaupt wel kan en hoe dat dan moet, helaas. [19:23] <Fermata> Naar wat ik kan vinden kan alleen de fullblown Nautilus miniaturen laten zien. [19:23] <Fermata> mysterio: een gebrek aan functionaliteit in die beperkte file picker [19:23] <pjotter> Juust [19:24] <mysterio> er is voor zo ver bekent nog niemand die daar een script voor heeft geschreven, of zie ik dat te symplistisch als niet programmeur? [19:24] <mysterio> 1m [19:25] <Fermata> Die functionaliteit is nog niet geimplementeerd. [19:25] <Fermata> Je kunt een feature request indienen. [19:27] <trijntje> of al je foto's een naam geven ;) [19:28] <Fermata> Het is niet optimaal, maar dit is wat er is. [19:29] <mysterio> Dan maar roeien met de riemen die je hebt, zal ik maar zeggen. Ik ben overgestapt omdat windows ook niet ideaal is, en omleen hiervoor een dualboot te doen is ook zo wat. [19:29] <Fermata> Ik kan niet voor een ander spreken, maar: ja, dat lijkt me rijkelijk overdreven. [19:31] <mysterio> Ik moet zeggen dat ik tevreden ben met ubuntu, het is even zoeken naar de juiste toepassingen, en als er tips zijn voor toepassingen die het gebruiksgemak dienen sta ik daar voor open. [19:33] <mysterio> Alleen wat ik nog niet gevonden heb dat voor mij optimaal werkt is een recover file programma dat oude windowsfiles kan terughalen, anders dan photorec. Zoals wel meer mensen, ben ik met de eerste installatie van ubuntu over al de aangemaakte partities heengegaan, omdat die de hele harde schijf automatisch koos. vandaar. [19:34] <lordievader> Je gebruikt momenteel je Ubuntu partities? [19:36] <mysterio> En als backup programma heb ik testdisk een paar keer gebruikt, en de backup op een usb stick gezet, maar als ik die backup terug probeerde te zetten, kon het systeem niet booten, of ik kreeg de melding dat grootte niet overeen kwam, terwijl ik later de :"C" schij iets kleiner gehouden heb dan de gig usb. Resultaat, na die melding kon ik weer een schone installatie doen, omdat ubuntu schijnbaar beschadigd was, en niet meer opstar [19:36] <mysterio> Ja, alles is nu ex2,3,4 [19:37] <trijntje> mysterio: testdisk is een recovery programma om bestanden terug te halen die verwijderd zijn, niet om een backup van een volledig systeem te maken. [19:37] <trijntje> als je de bestanden die door testdisk gevonden zijn 'terugzet' sloop je idd je bestaande ubuntu [19:37] <trijntje> mysterio: die bestanden ga je nooit meer terug krijgen nu je ubuntu twee keer er overheen hebt geinstalleerd [19:37] <lordievader> mysterio: Dan kun je je (Windows) bestanden vaarwel zeggen. De eerste regel bij data recovery is de disk niet gebruiken. [19:38] <mysterio> Zoals ik het gelezen heb is het onderdeel photorec om bestanden terug te halen die verwijderd zijn, en testdisk om systeem copieen te maken [19:38] <trijntje> elke seconde dat je een disk gebruikt waar je per ongeluk data van verwijderd hebt wordt meer en meer van die data overschreven [19:39] <mysterio> Ik heb ubuntu op 60 gig van de 1000 gig gezet, dus ik denk dat dat nog wel mee valt [19:39] <trijntje> mysterio: nee, dat klopt niet. Als die data echt belangrijk is moet je NU de pc uitzetten en via een andere pc terugkomen, en heel misschien zijn er dan nog een paar bestnaden te redden [19:39] <mysterio> De verwijderde bestanden stonden op 3 andere partities dan windows, op de zelfde harde schijf [19:40] <lordievader> Hiervoor heb je dus een backup. [19:41] <mysterio> dat is juist, en die had ik dacht ik ook, maar de dvd met bestanden was schijnbaar beschadigd, waardoor die niet meer gelezen wordt, chit happens [19:42] <mandje> is er niet een music player die een gedeelde itunes library op het netwerk kan benaderen? clementine kan het niet. [19:42] <lordievader> Dan heb je regel 2 van backuppen niet gevolgd. Controleer je backups. [19:43] <mysterio> Via photorec worden bestanden teruggehaald, maar ik zie geen mogelijkheid een keuze te maken om die op een usb stick te zetten, die wordt dan niet herkent. Recuva was onder windows een fijn programma hiervoor, maar dat werkt niet, ook niet met wine, omdat het nu als ubuntu geformateerd is. [19:43] <trijntje> mysterio: als je nog bestanden terug wil halen moet je de pc NU uitzetten, en dan heb je nog een hele kleine kans dat je er een paar terug kunt vinden [19:44] <mysterio> Achteraf kennis is vaak de juiste, maar weet vooraf maar eens achteraf, dan zouden er geen fouten gemaakt worden, en was de wereld ideaal, zonder klagers, en oplossingen voor de klagers! [19:44] <lordievader> Daarom bereid je je voor. Want je weet dat er fouten worden gemaakt. [19:45] <mysterio> Dat is correct, maar dan weer de vraag van het begin, hoe en met welk programma, waarmee ik het op een usb stick kan zetten, het gaat met name om office en visual studio bestanden. [19:46] <trijntje> mysterio: recovery moet je vanaf de installatie usb doen, en dan de bestanden op een andere usb schijf zetten. Maar zoals gezegd heeft het geen nut als je de pc maar blijft gebruiken [19:48] <lordievader> trijntje: De bestanden waren in iedergeval niet belangrijk. [19:50] <OerHeks> als je usb stick groot is, kan je er een persistence partitie op maken [19:50] <mysterio> wie zegt dat de bestanden niet belangrijk waren, en wat bedoel je met vanaf de installatie usb? [19:50] <OerHeks> je hebt maar 1 gb nodigjes [19:50] <trijntje> mysterio: dit is de laatste keer dat ik het zeg: ALS DE BESTANDEN BELANGRIJK ZIJN MOET JE DE PC DIRECT UITZETTEN. NU! [19:51] <pjotter> Oewwwww.... [19:51] * OerHeks gaat op een krukje zitten [19:51] <lordievader> Het feit dat je geen (geverifieerde) backup hebt en dat je pc nog aan staat zegt mij dat ze niet belangrijk waren. [19:51] <mysterio> ik kan geen bestander terughalen als ik niet weet hoe, tenzij je even langs komt om te helpen? [19:51] <trijntje> mysterio: heb je geen enkel ander apparaat in huis waarmee je op internet kunt? [19:52] <mysterio> nee [19:52] <pjotter> Ik rij wel ff. Zeg maar waarheen... [19:52] <mysterio> wat is een persitence partitie? [19:53] <mysterio> zeg jij maar waar vandaan [19:53] <pjotter> ;p [19:53] <lordievader> Ik zie een Amsterdam... [19:54] <mysterio> Hoe eerder ik de juiste info heb, kan de laptop uit, en is trijntje ook blij, en ik uiteraard als ik wat bestanden terug heb [19:54] <mysterio> Ik zie een betuwe [19:54] <pjotter> Attenooije!! Hoe weet die goser dat nou? [19:54] <OerHeks> ubuntu iso of gparted iso met testdisk neemt niet veel ruimte in, de rest kan je een partitie van maken om je data op te backuppen [19:55] <OerHeks> of een automatische installatie script op plaatsen, etc [19:55] <lordievader> Er zijn ook enkele distro speciaal voor data recovery. Maargoed, dan heb je de tools. Hoe je daarmee verder moet, geen flauw idee. [19:55] <OerHeks> hmm je hebt een 2e machien nodig idd. [19:55] <lordievader> Het heeft vast een reden dat profesionals hier klauwen met geld voor vragen. [19:55] <mysterio> ok, dan installeerd die automatisch vanaf de usb, en kan ik daarvan opstarten, en testdisk/photorec draaien, is dat juist? [19:56] <pjotter> hoezo dat? Je kan toch gewoon booten met recovery ISO, externe HD inpluggen en zien wat je er vanaf kunt krijgen? [19:57] <lordievader> pjotter: Zonder partitietabel die aangeeft waar je ntfs filesystem begint? Success ;) [19:57] <mysterio> als dat met een usb bij gebrek aan externe harddisk werkt, dan wel [19:57] <pjotter> lordievader: Is die schijf helemaal kaduk dan? [19:57] <mysterio> nee [19:57] <lordievader> pjotter: Nee, hij heeft Ubu erover heen gegooit. [19:58] <mysterio> kan die recovery iso dan gewoon een windows programma zijn, of een ubuntu lees testdisk [19:59] <pjotter> Whoopsie... tja.. [19:59] <mysterio> ik heb ooit geleerd "Stel de juiste vragen" maar dat valt niet altijd mee! [20:09] <mysterio> nog suggesties? [20:36] <mandje> is er niet een music player die een gedeelde itunes library op het netwerk kan benaderen? clementine kan het niet. [20:55] <JanC> mandje: Banshee, Rhythmbox, tuneviewer, vermoedelijk ook Amarok, etc.? [20:55] <JanC> xbmc

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2015-04-12-#ubuntu-us-mi

[01:50] <cscheib> cmaloney: there's a metal & hard rock station [13:20] <cmaloney> cscheib_: would be nicer if I could tell it More like this. they have genesis as a station [13:20] <cmaloney> also: morning [14:59] <cscheib_> bah, humbug [19:09] <cmaloney> http://www.reddit.com/r/pebble/comments/327tv3/which_one_of_you_at_14_seconds/ [23:03] <cmaloney> Evening

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2015-04-12-#ubuntu-pt

[04:07] <astroo-> ciao pessoal [20:50] <astroo-> ola pessoal

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.761960

2015-04-25-#ubuntu-ir

[10:45] <mohammad> سلام دوستان [10:45] <Guest64421> نرم افزارهای اوبونتو رو از کجا میتونم گیر بیارم [10:46] <Guest64421> کسی اینجا نیست [10:46] <Guest64421> الو [15:12] <kvahid87> salam [15:13] <MortezaE> salam kvahid87 [15:13] <kvahid87> kesi online? [15:13] <kvahid87> mikhastam beporsam [15:14] <kvahid87> zubuntu ba win 8.1 64 bit [15:14] <kvahid87> chera sazgari nadare [15:14] <kvahid87> age dare man moshkel daram bash [15:14] <kvahid87> man mizanam windows crash mishe [15:14] <kvahid87> test karde kesi? [15:15] <MortezaE> متوجه نشدم. شما اوبونتو رو نصب کردی روی همون سیستم که ویندوز نصبه؟ [15:15] <kvahid87> bale [15:15] <kvahid87> windows nasb bood [15:15] <kvahid87> partition sakhtam ba xt4 [15:15] <kvahid87> dota [15:16] <MortezaE> خب [15:16] <kvahid87> yeki home [15:16] <kvahid87> yeki root [15:16] <MortezaE> اوهوم [15:16] <kvahid87> zadam roo home [15:16] <kvahid87> bebakhshid [15:16] <kvahid87> root [15:16] <kvahid87> tamoom ke shod [15:16] <kvahid87> makhazeno update kardam [15:16] <kvahid87> windows parid [15:16] <kvahid87> az boot loader ke entekhab mikardam [15:17] <kvahid87> safhe mese barfak mimoond [15:17] <MortezaE> ویندوز روی کدوم درایو بود؟ [15:17] <kvahid87> ye ntfs [15:17] <kvahid87> ke joda bood [15:17] <MortezaE> اون دو تا پارتیشن، از نظر فیزیکی قبل از پارتیشن ویندوز بودن؟ [15:17] <kvahid87> are [15:18] <kvahid87> yaniaz list [15:18] <kvahid87> yani az list [15:18] <kvahid87> ke moghe nasb neshoon mide' [15:18] <kvahid87> balatar neshoon midad [15:18] <MortezaE> نه.. منظورم ترتیب قرارگیری پارتیشن ها روی هارده [15:18] <kvahid87> age dorost motevajeh shode bahsam [15:19] <MortezaE> حالا به هر حال... [15:19] <kvahid87> are [15:19] <MortezaE> به نظرم باید ویندوزت رو ریپیر کنی [15:19] <kvahid87> jolotar sakhte boodam [15:19] <kvahid87> repair nemishod [15:19] <kvahid87> majboor shodam ba badbakhti [15:19] <MortezaE> اون وقت گراب رو دوباره با یه دیسک لایو نصب کنی [15:19] <kvahid87> win 4 [15:20] <kvahid87> win 7 [15:20] <kvahid87> windows grub dare mage> [15:20] <MortezaE> شاید هم با تغییر فایل تنظیمات گراب مشکل حل شه، اما مطمئن نیستم [15:20] <MortezaE> نه، منظورم همون بوت لودر ویندوزه [15:20] <kvahid87> aha [15:20] <kvahid87> hal nashod [15:21] <kvahid87> engar moshekle kheyliast [15:21] <kvahid87> win 7 zadam ok shod [15:21] <MortezaE> منظورم این بود که هم بوت لودر ویندوز رو درست کنی و هم گراب. ینی با تعمیر بوت لودر ویندوز، خب گراب خراب میشه دیگه، درسته؟ دوباره باید اونم تعمیر کنی [15:21] <kvahid87> vali deriveramo poshtibani nemikone [15:21] <kvahid87> aha [15:22] <MortezaE> یه برنامه ویندوزی معرفی میکنم [15:22] <kvahid87> mamnoonam [15:22] <kvahid87> ? [15:22] <MortezaE> باهاش بوت لودر ویندوزت رو تعمیر کن [15:23] <MortezaE> از داخل ویندوز سونت که ظاهرا بالا میاد این کار رو بکن [15:23] <MortezaE> تا ویندوز ایتت هم بالا بیاد [15:23] <MortezaE> بعد برو سراغ نصب دوباره ی گراب [15:23] <MortezaE> EasyBCD [15:23] <MortezaE> بی سی دی اسم بوت لودر ویندوز هست [15:23] <kvahid87> :/ [15:24] <kvahid87> helpfull [15:24] <MortezaE> البته به نظرم در ویندوز ایت کمی تفاوت کرده و شاید کلا با چیز دیگه ای جایگزین شده [15:24] <kvahid87> merci [15:24] <kvahid87> donbale hamin bodam [15:24] <MortezaE> برنامه رایگانه. دانلودش کن ببین آپشنی برای تعمیر ویندوز ایت هم داره؟ [15:24] <kvahid87> donbale hamin bodam [15:24] <MortezaE> هپی تو سی :) [15:24] <kvahid87> tnx alot [15:24] <MortezaE> ما هستیم، خبرشو بده [15:24] <MortezaE> np [15:25] <kvahid87> ok [15:25] <kvahid87> chat you later :v [15:25] <MortezaE> c u [16:49] <abm2700> سلام. توی اوبونتو 13.10 چطور درایور Nvidia نصب کنم [16:49] <abm2700> آموزشهای سایت ها به درد نخورن [16:49] <MortezaE> go ask on #ubuntu [16:50] <abm2700> مگه اینجا کانال اوبونتو برای ایرانی ها نیست؟ پس چرا برم اونجا. [16:51] <MortezaE> چون اونجا سریع جواب میگیری. ولی اینجا در این لحظه دو سه نفر بیشتر حاضر نیستن. اوکی؟ :) [16:52] <MortezaE> اونا ساپورت رسمی هستن خیلی هاشون [16:52] <MortezaE> استخدام کنونیکالن [16:52] <MortezaE> برای پاسخگویی [16:52] <abm2700> عجب [16:52] <MortezaE> ubuntulog, lubotu3` rayeshmanBNC ashkan [16:52] <MortezaE> این چهار تا موجود زنده نیستن [16:53] <MortezaE> بقیه رو نمیدونم ;) [16:53] <abm2700> :-$ [20:04] <sinusi> hi

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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-us-or

[16:25] <wxl> linux fest northwest is on! [18:23] <bkero> lfnw p good

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.781511

2015-04-25-#ubuntu-se

[09:30] <blurkis_> Vad är baloo_file i ubuntu 15.04 och varför ligger den och tar 100% cpu hela tiden? :( [09:35] <blurkis_> how come baloo_file take 100% cpu on 15.04? How can I fix it? [10:04] <blurkis_> fel kanal.. haa [10:04] <blurkis_> haha [10:23] <Dynamit_> Baa [10:24] <Hund> blurkis_: Det finns en sida som heter Google.se, där kan man söka efter saker. Du borde prova den. [10:24] <Hund> ;P [10:26] <Dynamit> Google ger fan inte svaret på allting [10:26] <andol> blurkis_: Ubuntu som i Kubuntu? [10:26] <Dynamit> det kan jag lova [10:26] <Hund> På gott och ont vet Google allt. :D [10:27] <Dynamit> Men bra Hund då kan du säga åt google berätta för mig hur fan jag ska få woocommerce att kontrollera om en kryssruta är ifylld [10:27] <Dynamit> och om det är så räkna om priset på varan [10:27] <Dynamit> För jag har fan letat som en idiot utan hitta svaret [10:28] <Hund> Prova att inte leta som en idiot, då kanske du hittar något. [10:28] <Dynamit> Nu var du lustig va [10:29] <Hund> haha [10:29] <Hund> För mycket kaffe och för lite vänner. ;) [10:29] <Dynamit> Seriöst jag måste få till det så jäkla fort som bara det går [10:30] <Dynamit> hade varit lättare om kunden ifrågan inte skulle haft jäkla procent rabatt utan det varit fast pris i kronor [10:30] <Dynamit> men nej det går ju inte pga. att det folk matar in ändrar priset för själva skyddet [10:31] <Dynamit> Jag har kollat i woocommerce-addon plugin hur tusan den lägger till värderna där och sånt [10:31] <Dynamit> men har inte blivit klokare för det [10:31] <Dynamit> och på woocommerce kanalen är det fan dödare än vad det är här på en vecka totalt [10:34] <Hund> Jadu. Titta inte på mig. Det där är inte mitt område. :P [10:36] <blurkis_> andol: Jao, typ. Ubuntu från början men drog in kubuntu-desktop. så kör kde. [10:37] <blurkis_> andol: dödade processen och nu är det lugnt [11:47] <tiina> Hej jag undrar om någon av er vet hur man kan ladda bilderna alltså nödåtgärd ifrån sin trasiga iPhone6 till datorn??? [11:55] <emma> hallo [11:55] <emma> god morgon [12:10] <ehva> tiina: Fungerar telefonen tillräckligt för att synas som diskenhet? [12:10] <ehva> Om du kopplar in den med USB-sladden och kör `sudo lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,SIZE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL` syns den då? [12:11] <tiina> ehva alltså min dotters helt nya iPhone 6 plus e svart i skärmen och ränder på man man måste visst ha någon kod [12:11] <ehva> Bör vara typ /dev/sdb eller /dev/sdc beroende på hur många hårddsikar du har [12:11] <tiina> Ska prova ehva tack [12:12] <tiina> Ja ehva informationen kommer direkt fram [12:12] <tiina> vad gör jag nu tack [12:12] <ehva> Hmm, ok. Har inte koll på iPhones, men kan komma upp som en flash-disk. Som ett USB-minne. Då bör man kunna kopiera bilderna från den. [12:12] <tiina> Tack det ska vi prova på :) [12:13] <ehva> Om du öppnar Nautilus, finns telefonen med som en volym då? I sidebaren. [12:13] <tiina> hur öppnar jag nautilius? [12:13] <ehva> Den vanliga filhanteraren [12:14] <ehva> Vet inte vilken wm du kör, men om du kör Unity så bör det bara vara att klicka på hemikonen högst upp i vänstermenyn [12:14] <tiina> du menar den man alla filer i min hempärm typ hämtningar och så [12:15] <ehva> ja precis [12:15] <tiina> Ja det syns där men är låst??? kommer inte in [12:16] <tiina> kan ej öppna den hur kan man öppna den? [12:16] <ehva> Den borde ligga under Devices/Enheter då, i vänstermenyn. Om den har blivit automonterad [12:16] <tiina> den syns på vänstersida ja men när jag ska försöka öppna den måste jag ange kod? [12:16] <ehva> Du får inte upp någon lösenordsruta där du får ange administratörslösenordet? [12:17] <tiina> nix [12:17] <ehva> hmm, ok... [12:17] <ehva> Det händer ingenting när du försöker öppna den? [12:18] <tiina> alltså mobilen e där men kan ej öppna e stängd helt utan den där koden [12:18] <ehva> Ok, har inte koll på vad det är för kod [12:20] <tiina> iPhone e låst system....man måste kunna hacka sig förbi det [12:21] <tiina> Detta kom fram: lsblk [12:21] <tiina> NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT [12:21] <tiina> fd0 2:0 1 4K 0 disk [12:21] <tiina> sda 8:0 0 298,1G 0 disk [12:21] <tiina> ├─sda1 8:1 0 296,1G 0 part / [12:21] <tiina> ├─sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 part [12:21] <tiina> └─sda5 8:5 0 2G 0 part [SWAP] [12:21] <tiina> sr0 11:0 1 1024M 0 rom [12:22] <ehva> Ok, tyvärr tar nog mina kunskaper slut där. Har aldrig kört någon iPhone. [12:23] <tiina> ok ehva vi pinnar vidra tack..:) ha en bra dag [12:23] <ehva> Men med tanke på "Walled Garden of Apple" så kan det säkert vara lite knepigare att komma åt jämfört med t.ex. en Androidtelefon. [12:24] <ehva> Ni kanske kan gå till en Apple store, eller Machuset och be dem kolla på det, de kan ju plattformen [12:24] <ehva> Inga problem :) Ha en bra dag och lycka till! [12:28] <emma> Anyone speak English? I don't speak Swedish yet : ) [12:28] <blurkis_> ngn som är duktig på apache? Jag har lagt till ett a namn i dns för baten.z-sverige.nu, jag har lagt till en egen config fil för baten.z-sverige i apaches sites-enabled, sites-availiebel, http://pastebin.com/b19Yg9tA . Men det fungerar inte. Går jag in på baten.z-sverige.nu så hamnar jag på z-sverige.nu, eller rättare sagt.. min subdomain går dit.. ? [12:37] <ehva> emma: My guess is that everyone here speaks English. [12:38] <ehva> blurkis_: Om du kör `sudo apache2ctl configtest` vad säger den då? [13:44] <Dynamit> Någon som har förslag vart jag kan hitta någon som fattar sig på utveckling va plugin till woocommerce [13:44] <Dynamit> det är fan mer dött på #woocommerce än vad jag någonsin sätt det vara här [13:52] <emma> ehva: oh cool. Well I don't want to disturb things :) [13:54] <Dynamit> No problem emma [13:55] <blurkis> Dynamit: Syntax ok. :) [13:56] <Dynamit> Ja syntaxen är rätt men det är något som är galet så den blir inte triggad [13:56] <blurkis> Förstår bara inte varför Apache svarar med att skicka sidan från z-sverige.nu när jag kör baten.z-sverige.nu. [13:57] <blurkis> Dynamit: finns det ngn inställning för att hindra apache att skicka sidan från z-sverige.nu ifall något annat anges som prefix? Typ.. jag är dum på det här. [13:57] <blurkis> tänkte att jag kunde utesluta något då, [13:58] <Dynamit> ärligt jag är så lat så jag använder typ virtualmin för sånt [13:58] <blurkis> ska kolla upp vad det är. :) [13:59] <blurkis> ser smidigt ut, [14:00] <blurkis> ska ge det ett försök senare, [14:00] <Dynamit> Du råkar inte veta hur fasiken woocommerce funkar och när vad blir triggat i det [14:05] <blurkis> nope.. vet ens inte vad det är [14:12] <Dynamit> e-shop plugin till wordpress [22:01] <David-A> http://picpaste.com/forskare_hittat_bakterie_som_bildar_sjuk_smiley.jpg [22:09] <emma> hi [22:14] <K350> bash fråga: foo=1 ...jag vill att foo ska öka med + 1 för varje vända i en loop. Hur gör jag det? Själv aökningen..inte looopen alltså....någon? [22:16] <David-A> K350: algebra i bash sker inom $((...)) [22:16] <David-A> obs dubbla parenteser [22:17] <David-A> K350: om man inte vill binda sig till bash-syntax kan man använda "expr"-kommandot, o köra det in en subshell $(expr ...) [22:18] <David-A> K350: men det går lite långsammare för den måste skapa en subprocess [22:18] <K350> David-A: Eh..so $foo + 1 där inne räcker alltså? [22:18] <David-A> obs, $((...)) och "expr" bara heltalsaritmetik (inte decimaler) [22:19] <David-A> K350: japp, $foo + 1 eller foo+1 (med el utan $ och med el utan mellanslag inom $((...)) ) [22:20] <David-A> K350: men alltid med $ och mellanslag efter "expr", för variabler måste expanderas av shellen, så att expr-kommandot bara får siffror [22:21] <K350> sa, test ahär.... [22:21] <David-A> K350: om du bara ska incrementa en variable finns operatorn ++, som i C och Perl. (i $((...)), inte i expr) [22:23] <K350> Nä.... [22:23] <David-A> jo... [22:24] <David-A> K350: bash har också det inbyggda kommandot "let", efter "let" kan man ha samma uttryck som i $((...)). [22:24] <K350> David-A: först ska foo vara 0. foo=0 sedan ska $foo=$(( $foo ++ )) men det funkade ju inte [22:25] <David-A> t.ex. "let x=2+3" ungefär samma som "x=$((2+3))" ungefär samma som "x=$(expr 2 + 3)" (utan citat) [22:25] <David-A> K350: ah, utan dollar [22:26] <K350> testar let nu... [22:27] <David-A> K350: och med ++ behöver du inte tilldelningen = [22:27] <K350> Ah..då prövar jag igen... [22:27] <David-A> K350: antingen x=x+1 (med tilldelning) eller x++ (utan tilldelning) [22:27] <David-A> K350: kan du C el Perl? [22:28] <K350> Njae...lite gran [22:29] <David-A> K350: ++ hämtar värdet ur variabeln, ökar det med ett, OCH STOPPAR TILLBAKA nya värdet i variabeln [22:30] <David-A> K350: i samma variabel [22:30] <K350> David-A: kan du visa ett exempel på hela ruljansen. Dvs först ska foo=0 sedan ska foo=foo++ [22:30] <David-A> K350: jag tycker du slarvar med läsningen av mina instruktioner för ++ [22:31] <David-A> K350: om du inte klarar ++ så håll dej till +. alltså x=x+1 [22:32] <David-A> K350: som i "let x=x+1" eller "((x=x+1))" eller "x=$(expr $x + 1)" [22:33] <David-A> K350: (obs avsaknad av $ före ((...)) i detta fall) [22:33] <K350> Ja, jag har nog inte greppat det rikgit. Jag är inte så duktig på bash som du är. Skulle du vilja illustrera med ett exempel på en hel kod? [22:34] <David-A> K350: aldrig hel kod. du måste förstå o sätta ihop slutresultatet själv [22:35] <David-A> K350: är du på #bash kanalen? [22:36] <K350> Jo, det är sant. Men ja gär ingen elev på KTH utna försöker bara lösa ett problem jag har här och nu. Så en illustration sulle vara till stro hjälp och glädje. Du verkar ju vara väldigt duktig på bash [22:40] <K350> problemet är ju att variablen först redan är satt som 0 så foo=0 ; foo=$((foo+1)) fungerar ju inte [22:46] <David-A> K350: det borde funka, exakt vad skriver du? [22:48] <K350> let "var++" [22:48] <David-A> K350: med el utan citat? [22:50] <David-A> K350: 1) du skrev "så foo=0 ; foo=$((foo+1)) fungerar ju inte", 2) jag skrev "det borde funka, exakt vad skriver du?" 3) du skrev "let "var++"" [22:51] <David-A> K350: 1) o 3) är så olika, 3) kan inte vara svar till fråga 2) om 1), men kan vara svar till fråga 2) om 3), men jag blir förvirrad [22:52] <David-A> K350: (säg till om det egentligen är jag som förvirrar dej) :) [22:53] <K350> med dubbelfnuttar [22:53] <K350> och med let [22:54] <David-A> K350: skulle tro att det inte ska vara citat i uttrycket efter let [22:54] <David-A> K350: är du i #bash kanalen? [22:54] <K350> det sak nog snarare se ut så här: foo=0 ; let "foo++" i loopen [22:56] <K350> let var faktistk en trevlig liten funktion :-) [22:56] <K350> Stort tack :-) [22:56] <David-A> K350: är du i #bash kanalen? där finns länkar till en bash guide i intron [22:57] <David-A> K350: alternativt kan du läsa "man bash" i terminalen [23:08] <K350> Nej, jag är inte i dne kanalen. Strot tack för hjälpen. Nu ska jag knacka vidare på min lilla kod. Ha en trevligt fortsatt kväll/natt :-)

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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-us-ca

[04:07] <ianorlin> hmm https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation doesn't have a case for installing on multiple disks on a computer but using all of them [04:07] <darthrobot> Title: [Installation - Community Help Wiki]

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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-mozillateam

[18:21] <MikeRL> Anyone here? Channel looks pretty empty and it's the weekend. No issues, but if someone's around, has anyone noticed something odd with their firefox addons recently? [18:21] <MikeRL> Multiple addons have -signed suffixed to the end of them. [18:22] <MikeRL> I'll go to #firefox, but I'm curious if others have noticed it.

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2024-05-13T22:11:08.814505

2015-04-25-#ubuntu-it

[00:52] <matadores> !chat [00:52] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat [01:14] <dorant> salve a tutti buon giorno ma secondo voi io che ho la 12.04 mi conviene passare alla 15.01 [01:14] <dorant> 15.04 [01:14] <dorant> o aspettare [01:15] <dorant> ?? [01:16] <krabador> dorant, aspettare cosa? [01:16] <dorant> perchè la mia macchina ha solo 2 giga di ram [01:17] <krabador> dorant, scarica una iso di 15.04, fa una pendrive o un dvd, e prova in live [01:17] <krabador> con "prova ubuntu senzai installare" [01:17] <dorant> l'ho provata va a scatti [01:17] <krabador> dorant, allora, puoi iniziare a pensare di passare ad una derivata [01:18] <krabador> se vuoi un sistema aggiornato [01:18] <krabador> che cpu e scheda video hai? [02:21] <matadores> notte [07:34] <Dany__> !chat [07:34] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat [07:46] <akis24> giorno [08:37] <vlt> Ciao. [09:13] <Dany> necessito di un aiutino [09:13] <Dany> sono alle prime armi con ubunto, ho provato ad installare la lingua italiana ma non va [09:13] <Dany> Buongiorno a tutti [09:15] <bipp> Buongiorno [09:17] <dadexix86> Dany "ma non va" non vuol dire nulla, quale errore ti dà esattamente? Hai installato IN lingua italiana oppure hai installato in inglese e DOPO hai messo la lingua italiana? [09:56] <nuccio> buongiorno, non riesco a risolvere il problema del toucpad, ho un asus i7 e ubuntu ultima versione [09:57] <dadexix86> nuccio, esattamente di quale problema si tratta? [09:59] <nuccio> ciao, non va, tipo su e giu...va solo per un dito, aprire applicazioni... [10:00] <nuccio> muove solo la freccia.... [10:00] <nuccio> se usi due dita per fare scorrere non va [10:03] <dadexix86> nuccio marca e modello del touchpad? sei sicuro che supporti Linux? [10:04] <nuccio> non so, come si fa a sapere la marca...su win9 funziona con un programma che si chiama synaptic o qualcosa del denere [10:05] <nuccio> scusa win 8,11 [10:05] <nuccio> asus x53 [10:09] <nuccio> ecco ps2 port toucpad [10:09] <nuccio> synapstic [10:10] <jester-> 'ngiorno [10:10] <nuccio> buongiorno cavolo, ma [ complicato ubuntu..non pensavo [10:11] <dadexix86> nuccio ad Asus non piace Linux, quindi diventa complicato farcelo girare ;) Su altri sistemi va che è una bomba :) [10:12] <dadexix86> nuccio, ora ti cerco qualche info, resta in linea! ;) [10:14] <nuccio> a ecco..difatti, va malino...e flash plaier si puo mettere o c[ un-alternativa....ho 60 anni...qualcosa di semplice, non ne capisco...per mettere ubuntu ho impiegato una settimana [10:41] <Dany__> no installato ubuntu in inglese, sto provando a cambiare lingua in italiano ma non si salva [10:43] <dadexix86> Dany__, quale procedura stai seguendo e quale errore ti dà esattamente? [10:45] <Dany__> dadexix86: su language [10:45] <Dany__> ho scaricato il pacchetto delle lingue [10:46] <Dany__> tolta la spunta a quella inglese, messa spunta italiano [10:46] <Dany__> salvato [10:46] <Dany__> ho salvato anche il paese italia [10:46] <Dany__> ma rimane tutto in inglese [10:48] <Dany__> non mi evidenzia errori [10:49] <Dany__> dadexix86: ci sei_ [10:49] <dadexix86> "tolta la spunta"? hai trascinato Italian in cima alla lista? [10:49] <Dany__> no [10:50] <dadexix86> Le lingue vengono lette dalla prima all'ultima, trascina italiano in cima alla lista allora e poi dai "Applica system wide" [10:50] <Dany__> come faccio a trascinarlo? [10:51] <dadexix86> Lo clicchi e lo trascini :) http://imgur.com/OHf4m18 [10:55] <Dany__> ma solo italiano compare, non ci sono altre lingue [10:55] <Dany__> mm [10:55] <dadexix86> strano! almeno l'inglese conviene lasciarlo... [10:56] <dadexix86> hai provato a riavviare dopo aver messo l'italiano in alto lassù? [10:57] <Dany__> certo [10:59] <dadexix86> mi posti una schermata? [11:03] <Dany__> mm una parola lo screenshot sono riuscita a farlo [11:03] <Dany__> [ la prima volta che uso ubunto [11:04] <Dany__> file:///home/ubuntu/Pictures/Screenshot%20from%202015-04-25%2011:00:34.png [11:04] <Dany__> mm [11:04] <Dany__> come faccio a postarlo qui [11:05] <dadexix86> vai su imgur o tinypic, lo carichi e poi metti qui il link [11:55] <aled0> ciao, ho un problema: voglio ripartizionare il mio disco in modo tale da mettere l'ultimo ubuntu sulla nuova partizione [11:56] <jester-> aled0: cioè vuoi rasare tutto e rifare le partizioni? [11:56] <aled0> il disco appare praticamente vuoto da qualsiasi file manager, ma su gparted questo viene visto come totalmente utilizzato e quindi sono impossibilitato a ripartizionarlo [11:56] <aled0> voglio rimpicciolire la partizione primaria [11:57] <jester-> aled0: da gparted se è partizionato certo che lo vede come tutto utilizzato [11:57] <jester-> aled0: adesso hai una sola partizione? [11:57] <aled0> jester-: ho una partizione di boot e una extended con la partizione primaria da 900gb e rotti [11:58] <jester-> aled0: non esiste una estesa con dentro una primaria [11:58] <aled0> voglio rimpicciolire, ma non mi fa rimpicciolire perchp mi dice che è tutta utilizzata la partizione [11:58] <jester-> dentro alla estesa ci vanno le logiche [11:58] <aled0> jester-: scusami, una logica [11:58] <jester-> aled0: cosa hai dentro alla logica [11:59] <aled0> invio screen [11:59] <jester-> aled0: se la logica è piena non te la pacioccare. hai dati che servono li dentro? [12:00] <aled0> http://i57.tinypic.com/296ni2w.png [12:00] <aled0> la logica è quasi vuota, si, ho dati importanti, non posso formattare, perchè non posso rimpicciolirla? [12:01] <jester-> lvm? [12:01] <aled0> a si, ho settato tuttti i flag, pensando fosse quello il problema, non sono molto esperto di partizioni e simili [12:01] <jester-> aled0: liero hai 44 mb [12:01] <jester-> quindi in pratica piena [12:03] <aled0> jester-: ma è piena di che? se apro nemo o nautilus vedo che nn ci stanno file, poco e niente [12:04] <aled0> jester-: ma è piena di che? se apro nemo o nautilus vedo che nn ci stanno file, poco e niente [12:05] <jester1-> aled0: gparted dice 931 gb utilizzato, liberi 44 mb [12:06] <aled0> jester1-: sono qui in chat appunto perchè non ho file [12:07] <jester1-> aled0: quello vedo in gparted. se hai poca roba copiala e sega la extend poi fai un paio di primarie, puoi fare 4 primarie o 3 + una logica [12:07] <jester1-> come mai hai filisystem lvm? [12:08] <aled0> bo, lha fatta default mint all installazione [12:08] <aled0> http://pastebin.com/9ij5h2CJ [12:09] <carlos77> ciao, volevo sapere perchè quando guardo un film streaming dopo 5-6 minuti di disattiva la connessone wifi , mentr se navigo normalmentenon succede ninete [12:09] <aled0> jester1-: [12:09] <jester1-> ma che cazzo ha installato su lvm anzichè ext4? [12:10] <aled0> io nn ho fatto nnt, stava di default [12:10] <jester1-> aled0: prova un po a chiedere qui http://www.linuxmind-italia.org/index.php [12:10] <jester1-> aled0: pc con mint preinstallato? [12:12] <aled0> okok vado, cmq, no, hardisk nuovo e non mi interessava partizionare nnt e nemmeno me ne ero accorto che nn fosse ext4 [12:13] <jester1-> aled0: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestore_logico_dei_volumi [12:16] <jester1-> aled0: lvm è un casino http://www.morzello.com/index.php/resize-di-partizioni-lvm/ [12:51] <carlos77> quando guardo solo i film in streaming dopo 10 min mi salta la connessione wifi mentre se navigo su internet non succede niente [12:54] <cristian_c> carlos77, ok 14.04, ma con cosa? [12:54] <krabador> cristian_c, ubuntu o derivata? [12:54] <carlos77> derivata lubuntu [12:56] <carlos77> unica versione che puo reggere il pc [12:56] <carlos77> mio [12:56] <krabador> carlos77, apri terminale sudo apt-get install pastebinit [12:56] <krabador> Carlin0, sudo lshw -C network | pastebinit [12:56] <krabador> carlos77, , sudo lshw -C network | pastebinit [12:57] <krabador> carlos77, restituirà un link, che incolli qui [12:57] <carlos77> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10886126/ [12:58] <carlos77> cosi [12:58] <cristian_c> product: PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection [12:59] <carlos77> ok per cui [12:59] <carlos77> che faccio [13:00] <cristian_c> carlos77, allora, cercando sul web [13:00] <cristian_c> per tale scheda [13:00] <cristian_c> carlos77, sono stati segnalati problemi simili [13:00] <carlos77> ok [13:00] <cristian_c> su linux [13:00] <cristian_c> carlos77, dopo tot minuti la velocità crolla [13:01] <carlos77> si a me si scollega la connesione [13:01] <cristian_c> carlos77, digita: dpkg -l | grep firmware [13:02] <carlos77> ok fatto [13:02] <cristian_c> !paste | carlos77 [13:02] <ubot-it> carlos77: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina [13:02] <carlos77> linux-firmware 1.127.11 [13:02] <carlos77> all Firmware for Linux kernel drivers [13:02] <cristian_c> carlos77, l'output completo, su pastebin [13:06] <wwig> ciao a tutti, la live da usb mi chiede il login. ho provato con Ubuntu e niente pass ma non funziona [13:06] <wwig> che devo fare? [13:08] <cristian_c> wwig, molto semplicemente, potrebbe non essere una live di ubuntu [13:08] <cristian_c> ma di qualche altra distro tarocca [13:08] <wwig> scaricata dal sito [13:08] <cristian_c> wwig, nome del file .iso, completo [13:09] <wwig> ubuntu-15.04-desktop-i386.iso [13:10] <cristian_c> wwig, posta una schermata [13:10] <cristian_c> !image [13:10] <ubot-it> Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale. [13:10] <wwig> scusami cristian_c [13:10] <wwig> ubuntu da una decina di anni circa [13:10] <wwig> so che ogni tanto le live usb danno questo problema [13:11] <wwig> mi si presenta la schermata di log in classica [13:11] <wwig> dove mi chiede username [13:11] <wwig> e poi la password [13:11] <cristian_c> wwig, non mi è mai capitato di vedere una cosa del genere su una live [13:11] <wwig> ok, grazie comunque cristian_c [13:11] <cristian_c> che fosse di ubuntu [13:11] <cristian_c> wwig, posta una schermata [13:11] <wwig> a me è già capitato
 wwig, posta una schermata [13:12] <cristian_c> wwig, cosa che invece accade per altre distro basate su ubuntu [13:12] <wwig> aspetta [13:13] <wwig> un'altra persona ha il mio stesso problema [13:13] <wwig> http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=596339 [13:13] <wwig> ora ti metto la schermata [13:13] <cristian_c> wwig, qui si parla di daily [13:13] <cristian_c> neanche una stabile [13:13] <cristian_c> praticamente una alpha [13:14] <cristian_c> wwig, quando hai scaricato ubuntu? [13:14] <wwig> ieri [13:14] <wwig> notte [13:15] <cristian_c> aid, an unmodified Ubuntu livedc should let you log in with the username ubuntu, and a blank password. If that doesn't work, the steps given should be fine - have a look at that linked question for some more options. [13:15] <cristian_c> confermano [13:16] <cristian_c> wwig, quale sistema stia utilizzando in questo momento? [13:20] <wwig> windows 7 [13:20] <wwig> già fatto con user:ubuntu [13:22] <cristian_c> wwig, posta una schermata di winmd5sum [13:23] <wwig> è apposto [13:23] <wwig> già controllato [13:23] <wwig> ora ti metto la schermata [13:25] <wwig> http://it.tinypic.com/r/igclrt/8 [13:27] <wwig> ora riscarico l'immagine del sito [13:28] <cristian_c> http://askubuntu.com/questions/613053/what-is-the-live-session-user-password-in-kubuntu-15-04 [13:29] <wwig> non ci sono risposte [13:29] <cristian_c> wwig, ubuntu maiuscolo o minuscolo? [13:29] <cristian_c> wwig, ci sno [13:29] <cristian_c> *sono [13:30] <wwig> ubuntu minuscolo [13:30] <wwig> linux è case sensitive.... [13:31] <wwig> scusami cristian_c ma non vedo le risposte [13:33] <cristian_c> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/user-setup/+bug/1445206 [13:33] <cristian_c> ma è un problema che era stato risolto prima del rilascio [13:34] <cristian_c> wwig, se la scarichi adesso, riscontri lo stesso problema? [13:34] <wwig> la sto scaricando [13:35] <wwig> la mia è la versione 32bit [13:36] <cristian_c> il bug era questo: 'Fix typo in previous upload: AutomaticLogin line for gdm was containing an extra slash.' [13:36] <wwig> sì ho visto [13:36] <wwig> la sto scaricando da torrent [13:40] <flarea> ciao [13:41] <matadores> buon pomeriggio [13:41] <midnite> buon giorno a tutti [13:42] <matadores> un programma semplice per pulire il pc esiste? [13:42] <flarea> chi può aiutarmi a far funzionare lo screen reader orca? Per qualche motivo anche se premo ins+barra spaziatrice non si aprono le impostazioni [13:42] <akis24> matadores: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/PulireUbuntu [13:42] <flarea> matadores: c'è Bleachbit [13:43] <matadores> ok spero di riuscire ad usarlo [13:43] <cristian_c> !orca [13:43] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'orca' [13:43] <cristian_c> matadores, bleachbit non è consigliato [13:43] <cristian_c> può portare problemi [13:44] <cristian_c> matadores, cosa devi fare, esattamente? [13:44] <cristian_c> flarea, c'è una guida wiki apposita [13:44] <matadores> voglio un programma semplice come cclenear [13:45] <matadores> un programma che facci tutto in automatico senza che rovini niente io [13:45] <cristian_c> matadores, no no, ho chiesto cosa ti serve esattamente fare? [13:46] <flarea> sì l'ho vista ma non si apre il pannello delle impostazioni anche se uso le scorciatoie da tastiera, boh [13:46] <cristian_c> !pulireubunu [13:46] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'pulireubunu' [13:46] <cristian_c> !pulireubuntu [13:46] <ubot-it> pulire ubuntu is http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/PulireUbuntu [13:46] <flarea> altrimenti non avrei chiesto qui [13:46] <matadores> cache di internet e roba che si lascia dele installazzioni che non servono e che se ci sono errori li corregga in automatico [13:47] <cristian_c> flarea, aspetta un attimo [13:47] <cristian_c> matadores, nella guida è tutto scritto [13:47] <flarea> sì grazie! [13:47] <cristian_c> nulla di particolarmente difficile da applicare [13:47] <cristian_c> flarea, quale versione di orca utilizzi? [13:47] <cristian_c> !info orca [13:48] <ubot-it> Package orca does not exist in trusty [13:49] <flarea> dovrebbe essere l'ultima inclusa nella 15.04 [13:49] <cristian_c> flarea, desktop o laptop? [13:50] <flarea> desktop [13:50] <flarea> comunque versione pacchetto 3.14.3-0ubuntu2 [13:51] <cristian_c> flarea, quale degli ins premi? [13:51] <flarea> di destra, ieri funzionava quello [13:51] <flarea> quello vicino a stamp [13:51] <cristian_c> cioè quale (considera che non conosco la tua tastiera)? [13:51] <cristian_c> flarea, quindi non quello del tastierino, giusto? [13:52] <flarea> no, quello [13:52] <flarea> *quello in alto [13:52] <flarea> cioè sì, non quello del tastierino con lo 0 [13:52] <cristian_c> flarea, riesci ad entrare nelle preferenze senza scorciatoia in questo momento? [13:52] <flarea> uhm no [13:53] <flarea> non so come fare [13:54] <cristian_c> flarea, hai provato con l'altro tasto ins? [13:55] <flarea> sì, adesso non so perché ma se apro orca dalla dash crasha e non si avvia O.o [13:55] <flarea> oh, se serve sto usando Ubuntu Gnome [13:56] <cristian_c> flarea, quindi non si apre con nessun ins? [13:56] <cristian_c> nessuno dei due [13:56] <flarea> già, con nessuno [13:57] <cristian_c> flarea, apri un terminale e digita: orca --text-setup [13:58] <flarea> ho un output strano [13:58] <cristian_c> lol [13:58] <cristian_c> !paste [13:58] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina [13:59] <flarea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10886603/ [13:59] <flarea> la parte in inglese non mi quadra [14:01] <cristian_c> è soltanto un warning [14:01] <cristian_c> flarea, puoi tranquillamente procedere con la configurazione [14:01] <cristian_c> flarea, in fase di scelta del modificatore di tastiera, prova con qualcos'altro [14:02] <flarea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10886627/ ho finito la configurazione, ma se apro orca da terminale mi da questo e non si avvia [14:03] <cristian_c> flarea, perché l'hai aperto da terminale? [14:04] <cristian_c> e come l'hai aperto? [14:05] <flarea> perché se lo apro dalla dash crasha quindi ho provato da terminale. con "orca" [14:06] <cristian_c> flarea, ma cos'hai fatto dopo averlo configurato? [14:06] <cristian_c> *riconfigurato [14:06] <cristian_c> da terminale [14:06] <flarea> niente, aspetta adesso riprovo [14:07] <cristian_c> lol [14:07] <cristian_c> flarea, ma cosa? [14:07] <flarea> riprovo a configurare e ti posto l'output [14:08] <cristian_c> flarea, ma cos'hai fatto dopo aver configurato? [14:08] <cristian_c> non si capisce [14:08] <flarea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10886659/ ecco, questo [14:09] <flarea> ho fatto questo, e cioè dopo la configurazione non succede niente [14:09] <cristian_c> eco? [14:09] <cristian_c> flarea, infatti, hai soltanto riconfigurato [14:09] <flarea> ok, poi? [14:10] <cristian_c> ** (orca:11498): ERROR **: AT-SPI: COuldn't connect to accessibility bus. Is at-spi-bus-launcher running? [14:10] <cristian_c> Rilevato trace/breakpoint (core dump creato) [14:10] <cristian_c> flarea, ti conviene riavviare la sessione [14:10] <flarea> ah ok... allora dopo torno [14:11] <flarea> ok ho riavviato la sessione [14:12] <flarea> ehm... provo ad aprire orca? [14:12] <cristian_c> flarea, ho visto che in fase di riconfigurazione non hai specificato un tasto [14:13] <flarea> ah, come faccio? [14:13] <flarea> perché ho solo risposto alle varie opzioni [14:13] <cristian_c> quindi , sostanzialmente, non hai cambiato le cose [14:14] <cristian_c> flarea, workaround [14:15] <flarea> orca non si avvia dalla dash -_- uffa [14:15] <flarea> appena ho acceso il pc funzionava, poi si è bloccato da solo [14:16] <cristian_c> mmmmmmmmmmm [14:16] <cristian_c> flarea, c'è qualcosa di strano [14:17] <flarea> eheh non me ne ero accorta :D [14:17] <cristian_c> ubuntu gnome? [14:17] <flarea> s' [14:17] <flarea> *sì
 oh, se serve sto usando Ubuntu Gnome [14:17] <cristian_c> e parli di dash? [14:18] <cristian_c> che notoriamente è parte di unity [14:18] <flarea> ehm sì il pannello attività di gnome [14:18] <cristian_c> Please note. As of Ubuntu 14.04, there are some accessibility issues with the dash where Orca cannot reliably read search results. Randomly using Orca's flat review functionality can sometimes make search results partially accessible, but this only seems to work once a session. Investigation is still ongoing as to the cause of this issue. [14:19] <cristian_c> he below information is for GNOME shell, which is an alternative desktop environment to Unity. Both desktop environments share many pieces of infrastructure, such as the file manager, and have similar settings interfaces. As such, most of the information that applies to using Orca with Unity, in terms of navigating applications can also be applied to using GNOME shell. [14:19] <flarea> lo so che ha un suo nome il pannello di gnome.... sono due giorni che tento di cambiare voci su orca e non capisco più niente [14:19] <cristian_c> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility [14:19] <cristian_c> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility#using_orca_with_gnome [14:20] <cristian_c> launching apps [14:20] <cristian_c> GNOME shell also has multiple ways to launch applications, the most prominant being searching for and activating apps from the search results. To search for and launch n application, press the Super key, aka the Windows key. Orca will announce "Window", although no more information is given. You can then start typing the app name or keywords to find he app you are looking for. As you type, Orca will announce the [14:20] <cristian_c> first result that appears. Once you have entered your search terms, you can then use the arrow keys to find what you are looking for. [14:21] <flarea> ricapitoliamo, avviando Orca dal pannello applicazioni di gnome shell orca non si apre, mentre intorno alle 2 funzionava, poi si è sballato tutto solo, io stavo usando solo firefox... [14:21] <cristian_c> uhm [14:22] <cristian_c> flarea, dovresti killare orca [14:22] <cristian_c> flarea, http://askubuntu.com/questions/278693/how-do-i-stop-orca-screen-reader [14:22] <cristian_c> per riavviarlo [14:23] <cristian_c> flarea, alt+super+s [14:24] <flarea> che comando mi serve? [14:24] <cristian_c> oppure: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.a11y.applications screen-reader-enabled false [14:24] <cristian_c> flarea, è una combinazione da tastiera
 flarea, alt+super+s [14:25] <flarea> sì, che serve a? perché non succede niente [14:25] <cristian_c> flarea, a? [14:26] <cristian_c> flarea, hai premuto i tre tasti contemporaneamente? [14:26] <flarea> sì. forse ce l'ho fatta [14:26] <flarea> usando questo "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.a11y.applications screen-reader-enabled false" [14:26] <cristian_c> ok [14:26] <flarea> adesso? [14:27] <cristian_c> flarea, ora lancia orca da terminale [14:27] <flarea> ok [14:27] <cristian_c> oppure riconfiguralo come prima [14:29] <flarea> ok sto provando a riconfigurare.... [14:30] <cristian_c> vediamo se esce lo stesso errore, visto che orca non è in esecuzione [14:31] <flarea> Un altro processo del lettore di schermo è già in esecuzione in questa sessione. [14:31] <flarea> Eseguire "orca --replace" per sostituirlo con uno nuovo. [14:31] <flarea> ma cosa....? [14:34] <flarea> ho provato a riavviare [14:34] <flarea> mo vediamo [14:35] <cristian_c> anche
 Eseguire "orca --replace" per sostituirlo con uno nuovo. [14:35] <flarea> oh ce l'ha fatta [14:35] <cristian_c> ? [14:35] <Carlin0> forse bastava killall orca [14:35] <akis24> flarea: ps ax | grep orca [14:35] <flarea> si è avviato [14:35] <akis24> ok come non detto [14:35] <cristian_c> flarea, riesci a impostare il modificatore? [14:36] <flarea> no mi bastava riavviare -_- [14:36] <cristian_c> flarea, non avevi riavviato la sessione prima? [14:36] <flarea> si può aprire la gui del pannello di configurazione con un comando da terminale?
 ok ho riavviato la sessione
 ehm... provo ad aprire orca?
 orca non si avvia dalla dash -_- uffa
 appena ho acceso il pc funzionava, poi si è bloccato da solo [14:36] <flarea> sì ma adesso ho proprio spento e riacceso [14:37] <cristian_c> ok [14:37] <flarea> si può aprire la gui del pannello di configurazione con un comando da terminale? [14:37] <cristian_c> mmmmmmmm [14:37] <cristian_c> flarea, prova la solita combinazione con ins+spazio [14:38] <flarea> ho provato non succede niente [14:38] <cristian_c> quale dei due ins? [14:39] <flarea> prima uno poi l'altro, nessuno dei due funzionava [14:39] <cristian_c> flarea, allora workaround [14:39] <flarea> ? [14:39] <cristian_c> flarea, quando esegui la configurazione [14:39] <cristian_c> flarea, scegli laptop mode [14:39] <flarea> ok [14:39] <cristian_c> in questo modo verrà utilizzato il caps lock come modificatore [14:40] <flarea> ok ho finito [14:41] <flarea> quindi caps lock + barra spaziatrice? [14:42] <flarea> niente, non va nemmeno così [14:44] <cristian_c> flarea, ma hai rifatto la configurazione? [14:44] <cristian_c> hai fermato prima orca? [14:44] <cristian_c> hai riavviato? [14:45] <flarea> sì [14:47] <Carlin0> come hai fatto a riavviare che non sei uscito dalla chat [14:48] <akis24> flarea: ps ax | grep orca e metti su paste che vediamo [14:49] <flarea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10886954/ [14:51] <akis24> flarea: sudo kill -9 2679 2236 [14:52] <flarea> fatto [14:52] <akis24> flarea: ripeti il comando precedente vediamo se ha chiuso tutto ps ax | grep orca [14:54] <flarea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10887002/ [14:55] <cristian_c> eh, non è attivo [14:55] <akis24> flarea: hai provato a usare la gui per configurare ? http://i.imgur.com/14SSz4x.png ti ricordo che cristian_c ti aveva linkato la pagina ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/278693/how-do-i-stop-orca-screen-reader dove si legge chiaro [14:55] <flarea> il problema è che la gui della configurazione non si avvia [14:57] <Carlin0> magari hai una conf nella tua home ... [14:57] <cristian_c> flarea, quale ubuntu gnome stai utilizzando? [14:58] <flarea> 15.04 [14:58] <flarea> dici che ho beccato il bug? ho installato la 15.04 ieri e la gui di orca si apriva [14:59] <Carlin0> appunto e ti ha creato la conf che forse sarebbe meglio cancellare [15:00] <flarea> dovrebbe essere tra i file nascosti nella home giusto? [15:00] <Carlin0> eh si si [15:01] <wwig> live usb su notebook mi chiede la username e password, su pc desktop no [15:01] <cristian_c> Get into the Preferences dialog by pressing Orca Modifier+Space from within any accessible application. [15:01] <cristian_c> wwig, la stessa usb? [15:01] <akis24> !english | cristian_c [15:01] <ubot-it> cristian_c: Please join the international channel #ubuntu if you want to speak english. Here only italian language is permitted. Thank you [15:01] <cristian_c> con stessa iso [15:01] <wwig> certo [15:01] <cristian_c> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [15:02] <cristian_c> wwig, ma l'avevi riscaricata? [15:02] <wwig> si [15:02] <krabador> wwig, in ogni caso, ubuntu , senza pass [15:02] <krabador> wwig, hai provato? [15:02] <wwig> gia fatto [15:03] <wwig> provo con xubuntu [15:03] <flarea> ce l'ho fatta, era ora! [15:03] <wwig> bravo flarea [15:03] <flarea> grazie [15:04] <Carlin0> cancellato la conf ? [15:04] <flarea> sì [15:04] <flarea> non l'avevo vista [15:04] <Carlin0> ok [15:04] <Carlin0> cartella nascosta ... [15:04] <flarea> però non ho ancora finito il mio lavoro con orca, tentavo di capire come usare le voci mbrola [15:05] <flarea> però non riuscivo più a farlo partire [15:06] <flarea> avevo controllato tra le cartelle nascoste, ma non l'avevo notata, sarò pure ipovedente se mi tocca usare Orca :D [15:06] <Carlin0> flarea, se non la trovi visivamente usa il comando → locate orca [15:07] <flarea> ok grazie! [15:07] <Carlin0> magari viene + facile [15:07] <cristian_c> flarea, una cosa [15:07] <flarea> nessuno sa come usare le voci mbrola con orca no? Su gespeaker funzionano, ma nell'elenco di orca non ci sono [15:07] <flarea> sì, cosa? [15:07] <cristian_c> flarea, ora riesci a lanciare con ins+spazio? [15:08] <Carlin0> eh flarea googla un po che magari trovi [15:08] <flarea> si [15:08] <cristian_c> o int+tasti [15:08] <cristian_c> ok [15:08] <flarea> oh sono due giorni che cerco su google :D ok, ciao ciao e grazie [15:09] <krabador> torna a trovarci , per qualsiasi cosa riguardi ubuntu [15:09] <cristian_c> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2275191 [15:10] <flarea> beh posso anche dare una mano, vengo spesso sulla chat per aiutare :) [15:10] <flarea> cristian, quel post l'ho fatto io :D [15:11] <krabador> e come ti chiami quando vieni qui spesso ad aiutare? [15:11] <flarea> cioè era da un po' che non passavo, adesso che ho reinstallato potrò passare più spesso [15:11] <flarea> penso che terrò questo nick [15:12] <Carlin0> registralo :o) [15:12] <flarea> prima spesso usavo EruWolfy o solo Wolfy.... [15:13] <flarea> Adesso devo andare, ciao! [15:25] <Pie2000> Salve, ho un computer Toshiba Satellite C50-A-15E. Oggi ho scaricato Ubuntu e l'ho installato su una chiavetta USB tramite UNEbooting. Riavviando il computer, però, si avvia normalmente windows e non la procedura di installazione di ubuntu [15:27] <cristian_c> !usbwin | Pie2000 [15:27] <ubot-it> Pie2000: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO [15:27] <cristian_c> Pie2000, prova così [15:29] <Pie2000> Ma io quando inserisco la chiavetta nel computer, questa si chiama già Installazione Ubuntu. [15:30] <Pie2000> Ho provato anche a modificare la scaletta di avvio nel bios, dando priorità alle porte usb [15:31] <krabador> Pie2000, e quale versione hai scaricato , di ubuntu? [15:31] <krabador> il pc ha uefi? [15:31] <Pie2000> si,il pc ha uefi [15:32] <Pie2000> la versione è la 14.04.2 [15:32] <krabador> Pie2000, allora devi disabilitare secure boot [15:32] <krabador> e fastboot , da bios [15:33] <Pie2000> come si fa? [15:33] <krabador> far partire poi la pendrive , fatta con universal usb installre [15:33] <krabador> Pie2000, guarda il manuale del notebook [15:33] <krabador> i bios non sono tutti uguali [16:00] <Michi74> Buon giorno, sto per installare (al termine del download) Ubuntu per la prima volta su un porttaile Lenovo X201 Tablet e vorrei sapere se il portatile perderà la possibilità di usare la pennina. Grazie. [16:01] <Pie2000> ho fatto le operazioni che mi hai consigliato, si sta riavviando [16:01] <Pie2000> Ciao Michi, guarda anche io sono alle prese dell'installazione di ubuntu, quindi no ti so dire [16:02] <Michi74> Grazie [16:02] <krabador> "vorrei sapere se il portatile perderà la possibilità di usare la pennina" ---> spiegati [16:02] <cristian_c> Michi74, ti basta provare in modalità live, quindi senza installare realmente [16:03] <Michi74> Ora su windows7 questo portatile ha in dotazione una pennina (si usa tipo touch screen) [16:03] <Michi74> Modalità live? Me ne hanno accennato allo stand Ubuntu prima in fiera a Pordenone [16:04] <krabador> Michi74, ecco, se "la pennina" ha delle funzioni , gestite da un software win, in ubuntu possono non essere presenti [16:04] <Michi74> Ok Krabador, grazie [16:05] <krabador> Michi74, ma prova appunto in modalità live, ovvero scaricando la iso di ubuntu, facendo una pendrive usb, da mandare con l'opzione "prova ubuntu senza installare" [16:06] <Michi74> ora provo. Grazie. [16:06] <krabador> in quel modo caricherai il sistema , e potrai provarlo senza modificare nessuna impostazione [16:08] <Pie2000> fastboot a cosa serve? [16:14] <Pie2000> krabador guarda che pur avendo fatto tutto ciò che mi hai detto, si avvia normalmente windows [16:15] <Pie2000> Salve, ho un computer Toshiba Satellite C50-A-15E. Oggi ho scaricato Ubuntu e l'ho installato su una chiavetta USB tramite UNEbooting. Riavviando il computer, però, si avvia normalmente windows e non la procedura di installazione di ubuntu [16:15] <Pie2000> sagitt sai risolvere?? [16:19] <Pie2000> qualcuno sa risolvere il mio problema?? [16:20] <Pie2000> qualcuno sa risolvere il mio problema?? [16:20] <Pie2000> qualcuno sa risolvere il mio problema?? [16:20] <Pie2000> qualcuno sa risolvere il mio problema?? [16:20] <Pie2000> qualcuno sa risolvere il mio problema?? [16:20] <Pie2000> qualcuno sa risolvere il mio problema?? [16:20] <Pie2000> Salve, ho un computer Toshiba Satellite C50-A-15E. Oggi ho scaricato Ubuntu e l'ho installato su una chiavetta USB tramite UNEbooting. Riavviando il computer, però, si avvia normalmente windows e non la procedura di installazione di ubuntu [16:21] <Pie2000> Salve, ho un computer Toshiba Satellite C50-A-15E. Oggi ho scaricato Ubuntu e l'ho installato su una chiavetta USB tramite UNEbooting. Riavviando il computer, però, si avvia normalmente windows e non la procedura di installazione di ubuntu [16:22] <krabador> Pie2000, ti dai una calmata per favore? [16:22] <Pie2000> scusa [16:22] <krabador> è un canale di volontari, che se sono davanti al pc, rispondono [16:22] <krabador> se hanno voglia [16:22] <krabador> non un call center [16:22] <Pie2000> hai ragione ho sbagliato [16:23] <Pie2000> mi scuso [16:23] <cristian_c> Pie2000, ti era stato suggerito universal [16:23] <Pie2000> l'ho utilizzato [16:23] <krabador> Pie2000, formatta la pendrive, scarica universa usb installer [16:23] <krabador> rifai la pendrive con la versione di ubuntu che hai scaricato [16:24] <krabador> sebbene , con uefi, ti consiglio la 15.04 [16:24] <krabador> Pie2000, disabilita uefi secure boot, fastboot [16:24] <krabador> da bios [16:24] <Pie2000> già fatto, installato il progrmma e inserito il sistema operativo sulla pennetta [16:24] <Pie2000> ho fatto anche quello [16:24] <krabador> Pie2000, sicuro di aver disabilitato entrambi le voci da bios? [16:24] <Pie2000> entrambi disabilitati [16:24] <krabador> quante voci hai riguardanti uefi, in bios? [16:24] <krabador> !uefi | Pie2000 [16:24] <ubot-it> Pie2000: UEFI è una specifica che definisce una interfaccia software tra un sistema operativo e le piattaforme firmware, è intesa come un sostituto del BIOS. Per informazioni su come impostare e installare Ubuntu su macchine UEFI vedi http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/UEFI | vedi anche https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [16:25] <Pie2000> fastboot si disabilita dal pnnello di controlo [16:26] <AndroUser> Teoricamente dal bios [16:26] <Pie2000> http://www.chimerarevo.com/windows/windows-8-disattivare-avvio-veloce-quick-boot-125388/ [16:27] <Pie2000> io ho seguito questa guida [16:27] <krabador> Pie2000, avvia windows 8 e spegni la macchina, dopo aver disabilitato fastboot [16:27] <krabador> in quel modo svilncolerai le partizioni win [16:28] <AndroUser> Se l'hai disattivato prepara la chiavetta e poi imposti che legga la chiavetta usb... [16:28] <Pie2000> l'ho già fatto [16:29] <Pie2000> adesso provo a spegnere [16:29] <Pie2000> e riaccendere [16:29] <AndroUser> Va bene... [16:32] <Pie2000> non funziona [16:32] <AndroUser> Non parte l'installazione? [16:33] <Pie2000> esatto [16:33] <AndroUser> Hai modificato da bios l'ordine di lettura in modo che legga per prima la pennetta usb? [16:34] <Pie2000> si, come prima voce c'è USB [16:35] <AndroUser> Che programma hai usato per preparare la chiavetta usb? [16:36] <Pie2000> universal usb installer [16:36] <Pie2000> me l'hanno consigliato in questa chat [16:37] <krabador> !md5 | Pie2000 [16:37] <ubot-it> Pie2000: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Md5Sum. Per una lista completa, si veda: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes [16:37] <krabador> controlla l'hash della iso che hai scaricato [16:38] <AndroUser> Prova a rifare la chiavetta... o a riscaricare l'iso... [16:40] <krabador> Pie2000, 18:24 krabador quante voci hai riguardanti uefi, in bios? [16:48] <AndroUser> krabador, forse l'installazione é partita... [16:48] <cristian_c> Michi74, sei riuscito? [16:57] <exKijio> salve a tutti [16:58] <exKijio> scusate la domanda idiota ... ho aggiornato alla 15.04 ... e unity mi rimette i menu sulla barra invece che nell'applicazione ... come si faceva a rimettere le cose a posto? [16:58] <cristian_c> exKijio, i global menù? [16:58] <exKijio> si penso di si [16:58] <krabador> exKijio, in impostazioni [16:58] <krabador> schermo [16:58] <krabador> c'è l'opzione [16:58] <cristian_c> exKijio, ora c'è uno switch per disattivarlo [16:59] <exKijio> ok impostazioni ... [16:59] <exKijio> mm schermo [17:00] <exKijio> non esiste [17:01] <cristian_c> exKijio, vai nelle impostazioni di ubuntu [17:01] <cristian_c> exKijio, poi Aspetto [17:01] <krabador> impostazioni -- aspettp --- comportamento [17:01] <exKijio> ok ci sono ... era difatti messo per mostrare ... aspe .. sto facendo casino io ... scusate ... :D [17:01] <exKijio> ci sono ... [17:02] <exKijio> capperozzi ... insisto ad usare unity ... la colpa è mia ... [17:02] <exKijio> grazie cristian_c e krabador [17:02] <exKijio> vado a cena ... ciao a tutti [17:02] <exKijio> e grazie ancora

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