| [06:15] <soee> good morning | |
| [07:59] <Riddell> hola chicos | |
| [08:22] <milissa> http://adf.ly/pyduc | |
| [08:23] <Riddell> spammer | |
| [08:23] <Riddell> !ircc | |
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| [08:23] <Riddell> jussi: tell freenode to ban ^^ | |
| [09:55] <Riddell> apachelogger: remind me why debdiff | filterdiff is better than diff -urN ? | |
| [09:55] <Riddell> I can't get filterdiff --include=debian to work | |
| [10:00] <apachelogger> Riddell: dpkg-buildpackage -S && { debdiff ../*dsc | filterdiff -i '*/debian/*' } | |
| [10:00] <apachelogger> filterdiff is superior because you want to review the delta of the actual artifact you intend to upload, a manual diff does not correctly represent this | |
| [10:01] <apachelogger> random unlikely example: clean rule removes stuff from debian/, then your manual diff might not be what a debdiff would show | |
| [10:03] <Riddell> this all seems very improbable for the extra effort | |
| [10:04] <apachelogger> Riddell: what's the extra effort? | |
| [10:05] <apachelogger> you need to build the dsc anyway and diffing over the dscs gives a correct representation of the delta while a manual diff doesn't | |
| [10:05] <Riddell> debdiff *dsc | filterdiff -i '*/debian/*' takes much longer to type and has more chance of mistakes than diff -urN foo/debian/* current/foo/debian/* | |
| [10:05] <apachelogger> that's almost the same amount of typing :P | |
| [10:05] <Riddell> now if debdiff had an option to just show you the debian/ contents, that would make a lot of sense | |
| [10:05] <apachelogger> also scripting is your friend ^^ | |
| [10:20] <shadeslayer> debfx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/trusty-backports/+bug/1335840 | |
| [10:20] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1335840 in trusty-backports "Please backport kdeconnect 0.7.1-0ubuntu3 (universe) from utopic-proposed" [Undecided,New] | |
| [11:07] <BluesKaj> Howdy all | |
| [11:17] <sgclark> morning all | |
| [11:17] <Riddell> hola sgclark | |
| [11:18] <Riddell> notes: plasma-mc needs depend on baloo | |
| [11:18] <Riddell> baloo | baloo-kf5 I guess | |
| [11:18] <Riddell> it also needs compiled with -DNO_LINK_TO_PLASMA=ON | |
| [11:18] <Riddell> which is what stops it freezing | |
| [11:18] <Riddell> cos qtmultimediakit uses gstreamer 0.10 while plasma uses gstreamer 1.0 | |
| [11:19] <Riddell> it also needs to recommend all the gstreamer 0.10 codecs (good, bad and ugly) | |
| [11:19] <Riddell> but worst of all, it doesn't play game of thrones because we have no gstreamer 0.10 codec for video/x-h264 | |
| [11:20] <sgclark> oh nos :( | |
| [11:20] <Riddell> it doesn't play youtube either can that's mp4 | |
| [11:20] <Riddell> plasma-mc has so much promise but the technology just lets it down :( | |
| [11:20] <sgclark> ahhh, then why is the big youtube button lol | |
| [11:22] <Riddell> well if your distro still supports gstreamer 0.10 then it's all good | |
| [11:22] <Riddell> but ubuntu has removed libav plugin for gstreamer so no mp4 (as I understand it) | |
| [11:23] <Riddell> instead just a warning Warning: "No decoder available for type 'video/x-h264'" | |
| [11:23] <sgclark> gosh hthat is not very useful, youutube is the main reason I would use | |
| [11:24] <Riddell> sgclark: anyway, are you able to make those changes? | |
| [11:24] <sgclark> sure thing | |
| [11:24] <Riddell> sgclark: I got confused yesterday because I didn't realise you had two PPAs, what's the second one for? | |
| [11:25] <sgclark> Riddell: my PPAs only hold like one maybe two, so I made one for trusty and one for utopic | |
| [11:25] <Riddell> one maybe two what? | |
| [11:25] <sgclark> packages | |
| [11:26] <Riddell> but why? | |
| [11:26] <sgclark> I don't know, I get out of space rejects alot though | |
| [11:26] <Riddell> gosh really? | |
| [11:26] <sgclark> mhmm | |
| [11:27] <Riddell> hum | |
| [11:27] <Riddell> well no importante | |
| [11:27] <Riddell> you can also use kubuntu-ppa/experimental for works in progress | |
| [11:27] <sgclark> ok thanks | |
| [11:31] <Riddell> we have three abstractions of gstreamer for qt all with varying abilities, this makes me cry | |
| [11:33] <sgclark> yeah I was messing around trying to figure it all out last night | |
| [11:33] <apachelogger> sgclark, Riddell: staging is fro work in progress | |
| [11:34] <apachelogger> experimental is for experimental packages | |
| [11:34] <sgclark> ahh right, will use that, thanks | |
| === inetpro_ is now known as inetpro | |
| [12:39] <sgclark> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+packages?batch=75&direction=backwards&start=225 | |
| [12:47] <Riddell> apachelogger: the difference seems sometimes arbitrary | |
| [12:51] <sgclark> Riddell: nevermind, now affected by https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335904 | |
| [12:51] <ubottu> KDE bug 335904 in Shell "NO_LINK_TO_PLASMA option non-operational" [Grave,Reopened] | |
| [12:52] <Riddell> sgclark: really? it solved the freeze issue for me | |
| [12:52] <sgclark> won't start for me | |
| [12:53] <sgclark> which well I suppose stops the feezes haha | |
| [12:54] <Riddell> sgclark: you run plasma-mediacenter and nothing happens? | |
| [12:55] <sgclark> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7731279/ | |
| [12:55] <sgclark> Failed to load Plasma Libraries, cannot continue. is the problem | |
| [12:57] <apachelogger> Riddell: it's not, experimental is about the scope of the software in the package, not the package itself | |
| [12:57] <apachelogger> that is: stuff in experimental is expected to install and uninstall | |
| [12:57] <apachelogger> whether the actual software works is out of scope for experimental, but the package mustn't screw the user over | |
| [12:58] <apachelogger> http://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs#Kubuntu_Experimental | |
| [12:59] <Riddell> si | |
| [13:03] <Riddell> sgclark: did you get /usr/lib/libplasmaadapter.so.1.3 installed? | |
| [13:03] <Riddell> it only gets created when you build with NO_LINK_TO_PLASMA | |
| [13:03] <sgclark> Unpacking libplasmamediacenter1.3 (1.3.0-0ubuntu1) over (1.3.0-0ubuntu1) ... | |
| [13:04] <Riddell> "adapter" | |
| [13:04] <sgclark> oh hmm | |
| [13:04] <Riddell> different name | |
| [13:04] * sgclark look | |
| [13:11] <sgclark> Riddell: that is the problem, seems list-missing did not get run *fixing* | |
| [13:25] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion qt-gstreamer 1.1.90 | |
| [13:25] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1336256 | |
| [13:29] <BluesKaj> hmm, I see thew switch to systemd being bad mouthed in the ##linux room due to this url , http://boycottsystemd.org/ , is there any truth to these claims ? | |
| [13:32] <Riddell> BluesKaj: yes, lots | |
| [13:33] <BluesKaj> then why the switch Riddell?, seems like a bad move | |
| [13:35] <Riddell> because for all those grumbles a modern init system has lots of advantages, and I don't want to be the only decent distro using !systemd | |
| [13:35] <BluesKaj> is sysvinit no longer able to handle the changes to ubuntu | |
| [13:36] <Riddell> we haven't used sysvinit for some years | |
| [13:36] <Riddell> it's slow and very distro specific | |
| [13:36] <BluesKaj> oh? | |
| [13:37] <sgclark> sigh, irc hates me | |
| [13:37] * BluesKaj learned something new today | |
| [13:37] <apachelogger> that page is much silly | |
| [13:39] <BluesKaj> probly archlinux haters | |
| [13:41] <apachelogger> nah, just whiners | |
| [14:16] <sgclark> Riddell: new plasma-mc up in staging. Looks like it works aside from me not having anything that doesn't use Warning: "No decoder available for type 'video/x-h264, | |
| [14:18] <sgclark> Riddell: I have to step out for 1 hour, will be back though. | |
| [14:20] <Riddell> sgclark: you could test it with this gripping narative blockbuster with tragedy and triumph http://ftp.belnet.be/FOSDEM/2014/H1302_Depage/Saturday/Do_you_have_to_be_brain_damaged_to_care_about_desktop_Linux.webm | |
| [14:48] <tsdgeos> Only 4 donations to 300 people! http://www.kde.org/fundraisers/randameetings2014/ :) | |
| [15:05] <sgclark> Riddell: that video works :) | |
| [15:05] <Riddell> yay | |
| [15:06] <sgclark> Riddell: no changes between trusty and utopic, still need me to upload both? | |
| [15:07] <Riddell> sgclark: no I'll upload to utopic and trusty-proposed for an SRU | |
| [15:07] <sgclark> Riddell: ok great | |
| [15:07] <sgclark> Riddell: was that release today or ? | |
| [15:07] <Riddell> sgclark: no sign of dfaure so I guess not until this (european) evening | |
| [15:08] <sgclark> Riddell: ok, gonna get some chores done, ping me when it happens | |
| [15:08] <Riddell> sgclark: are you on the kde-packager e-mail list yet? | |
| [15:09] <sgclark> Riddell: no I am not, I am guessing I should be? | |
| [15:09] <Riddell> I'm not sure how you subscribe to it now, https://sysadmin.kde.org maybe | |
| [15:09] <Riddell> sgclark: try filling in something there and giving me as reference | |
| [15:12] <sgclark> Riddell: ok submitted ticket | |
| [15:12] <Riddell> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=kubuntu-packaging could do with some cleanup | |
| [15:13] <sgclark> Riddell: didn't we just do 1.3? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-mediacenter/+bug/1328246 | |
| [15:13] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1328246 in plasma-mediacenter (Ubuntu) "Please update plasma-mediacenter to 1.2.90" [Undecided,New] | |
| [15:14] <Riddell> sgclark: yes so that should be closed | |
| [15:14] <sgclark> Riddell: k | |
| [15:25] <sgclark> Riddell: artikulate says in progress assignee: Howard Chan (smartboyhw) is this person still around? | |
| [15:27] <Riddell> sgclark: nope he wandered off when he got busy/burnt out (don't you burn out!) | |
| [15:28] <sgclark> but it looks like it is in trusty-proposed | |
| [15:28] <sgclark> lol | |
| [15:28] <Riddell> ah so maybe it's all done anyway | |
| [15:28] <sgclark> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/artikulate/trusty-proposed/files | |
| [15:28] <Riddell> it's in KDE SC now | |
| [15:28] <sgclark> ok closing | |
| [15:28] <Riddell> yeah moved to kde-edu | |
| [15:36] <sgclark> Riddell: umm librocket google search shows someone built this https://launchpad.net/~joern-schoenyan/+archive/librocket can we use this? | |
| [15:38] * Riddell looks | |
| [15:39] <Riddell> apachelogger: what do you know about librocket? | |
| [15:41] <Riddell> http://librocket.com/ C++ user interface middleware package based on the HTML and CSS standards | |
| [15:41] <Riddell> well I've no idea what uses that | |
| [15:42] <Riddell> sgclark: I guess apachelogger had some reason to want it packaged a year ago but not a very good reason since he didn't get round to it, wait until he replies but probably close it | |
| [15:47] <sgclark> sorry internet hiccup, verdict on librocket? | |
| [15:48] <Riddell> 16:39 < Riddell> http://librocket.com/ C++ user interface middleware package based on the HTML and CSS standards | |
| [15:48] <Riddell> 16:39 < Riddell> well I've no idea what uses that | |
| [15:48] <Riddell> 16:40 < Riddell> sgclark: I guess apachelogger had some reason to want it packaged a year ago but not a very good reason since he didn't get round to it, wait until he replies but probably close it | |
| [15:48] <sgclark> ok | |
| [16:00] <sgclark> Riddell: cleaned up, will work on libqapt | |
| [16:05] <Riddell> sgclark: oh? what's need doing with it? | |
| [16:05] <sgclark> Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libqapt/+bug/1328165 | |
| [16:06] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1328165 in libqapt (Ubuntu) "Please update libqapt to 2.2.0" [Undecided,New] | |
| [16:07] <Riddell> hah my own bug too, great please do | |
| [16:47] <sgclark> Riddell: libqapt in staging | |
| [16:57] <sgclark> Riddell: no changes for trusty ^ | |
| [19:43] <Riddell> sgclark: great | |
| [20:11] <Riddell> sgclark: plasma patch looks good, you can commit it yourself | |
| [20:11] <sgclark> ty | |
| [20:14] <Riddell> making plasma build-dep on the right frameworks -dev packages is another issue | |
| [20:15] <Riddell> would need another comand line switch | |
| [20:57] <soee> good news :-) | |
| [20:57] <soee> latest version of plasma-next from neos works great ! | |
| [20:57] <soee> *neon | |
| [21:10] * Riddell spots stable/frameworks/5.0.0/ | |
| [21:12] <yofel> \o/ | |
| [21:21] * yofel notes that CFQ is a horrible choice of IO scheduler if one creates fixed size virtualbox images on a rotary medium | |
| [21:21] <yofel> unlike dealine you can barely even move the mouse | |
| [21:21] <yofel> *deadline | |
| [21:31] <Riddell> is that the one that baloo wants? | |
| [21:31] * Riddell grabs an espresso mocha and some tortilla and cracks on with kubuntu-initial-upload | |
| [21:37] <yofel> yes | |
| [21:43] <kubotu> feed branches-next had 25 updates, showing the latest 6 | |
| [22:16] <apachelogger> sgclark: close librocket, use case disappeared | |
| [22:16] <sgclark> apachelogger: ok | |
| [22:43] <kubotu> feed branches-next had 25 updates, showing the latest 6 | |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - The Distro for Octopuses | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas-frameworks KF5 5.0.0! | |
| [22:53] <Riddell> KF5 5.0.0 up in next PPA, do keep an eye on it ninjas and poke as needed | |
| [22:54] <Riddell> also if someone could set up a qa report that would be great | |
| [22:54] * Riddell wanders "home" | |