2014/05/09/#ubuntu-desktop.txt

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[04:42] <pitti> Good morning
[07:02] <mpt> “Passwords or encryption keys are required to access the network 'COWF'. I’m pretending not to know *which* are required.” — NetworkManager
[07:21] <mpt> charles, could you follow up on bug 1196059? Seems like one or two other bugs there that will get forgotten in a report of a fixed bug
[07:33] <didrocks> mpt: hey, do you know who I can contact so that ubuntu-fr get the dvd covers source? As usual, we are doing our own french respin and this time, we didn't get the sources
[07:33] <mpt> didrocks, Marcus Haslam
[07:34] <didrocks> mpt: thanks!
[07:34] <mpt> didrocks, and if something that usually happens didn’t happen this time, please ask him to add it to the checklist for things to do when producing the artwork.
[07:34] <didrocks> mpt: yeah, will surely do! thanks again for the pointer :)
[08:03] <Laney> morning!
[08:04] <darkxst> Laney, Hey
[08:04] <Laney> hey ;-)
[08:06] <seb128> good morning desktopers, happy friday!
[08:06] <didrocks> morning Laney, darkxst, seb128!
[08:07] <darkxst> hey didrocks, seb128!
[08:09] <Laney> good fridays off?
[08:09] <Laney> thursdays*
[08:09] <didrocks> Laney: oh, we can get Friday off as well? \o/
[08:09] <seb128> quite good indeed!
[08:09] <didrocks> yeah, was nice thanks!
[08:09] <didrocks> :)
[08:09] <seb128> except the weather maybe
[08:09] <didrocks> the weather was perfect here :)
[08:10] <seb128> nice
[08:10] <seb128> I had no issue with the grey weather, I played tennis indoor and went to the spa in the afternoon
[08:10] <seb128> but weather is still supposed to be not-so-nice for the w.e :/
[08:11] <didrocks> argh :/
[08:12] <Laney> yeah, same here
[08:12] <didrocks> (should be fine here on saturday, not sunday)
[08:12] <Laney> http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2641170
[08:13] <seb128> quite mixed weather
[08:14] <didrocks> argh, and a deja-dup backup failing again :/
[08:14]  * didrocks looks at mterry, who isn't there
[08:15] <seb128> same error you had before?
[08:15] <didrocks> yeah
[08:15] <didrocks> I guess it's only when it's trying to do a restore test
[08:16] <didrocks> and no duplicity crash
[08:16] <didrocks> I'll keep things opened and see with him
[08:19] <darkxst> Laney, so how do go about getting colord-gtk promoted again?
[08:20] <Laney> an archive admin can do it
[08:20] <seb128> just get it used
[08:20] <seb128> that's going to make it show on component mismatch
[08:21] <darkxst> seb128,https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/1:3.8.6-0ubuntu1
[08:21] <darkxst> =dep-wait
[08:21] <darkxst> will that generate a mismatch?
[08:22] <didrocks> (done)
[08:24] <seb128> darkxst, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.txt
[08:24] <seb128>  o colord-gtk: gir1.2-colordgtk-1.0 libcolord-gtk-dev libcolord-gtk1
[08:24] <seb128>    MIR: #1282372 (Fix Committed)
[08:24] <seb128>    [Reverse-Depends: Rescued from colord-gtk, libcolord-gtk-dev]
[08:24] <seb128>    [Reverse-Build-Depends: gnome-control-center (MAIN)]
[08:24] <seb128> didrocks, done = promotion?
[08:25] <Laney> the proposed one doesn't generate emails though, so it's easier to miss
[08:25] <didrocks> seb128: yeah
[08:25]  * Laney stabs live-build
[08:25] <seb128> didrocks, thanks
[08:25] <didrocks> see bug :)
[08:25] <didrocks> yw!
[08:26] <seb128> doh, tracker MIR
[08:26] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, I put that on the shelf
[08:26] <didrocks> I'm really vary about it
[08:26] <seb128> darkxst, nautilus still behaves the exact same way than before if tracker is not installed?
[08:27] <darkxst> seb128, will make sure tracker plugin on runs on GNOME sessions
[08:27] <seb128> well, I've no doubt you are going to make sure tracker works for you
[08:27] <seb128> but please make sure it doesn't create extra depends or behaviour changes on other desktops
[08:28] <seb128> those of us who don't want tracker
[08:28] <darkxst> seb128, it will create a dep on libtracker
[08:28] <darkxst> but not the binaries
[08:28] <darkxst> its only like 50KB or so
[08:28] <seb128> and not change the behaviour ?
[08:29] <darkxst> it will not run on !GNOME
[08:29] <darkxst> but we need to link to the lib, to be even able to build it
[08:30] <seb128> k, that's fine
[08:30] <seb128> well, we need somebody wanting to maintain tracker actively/provide support for it
[08:30] <seb128> if it's in main
[08:31] <seb128> which our desktop team doesn't want to do
[08:31] <seb128> but I guess that's a question for the MIR review
[08:31] <didrocks> seb128: on the MIR, the ubuntu gnome seems to commit to do that
[08:31] <didrocks> team*
[08:31] <didrocks> I would still like a security review from jdstrand
[08:31] <seb128> ok, good
[08:31] <seb128> yeah, that wouldn't be too much
[08:31] <didrocks> but I need first to do a first pass
[08:36] <seb128> Laney, did you start looking at the unity8 iso ?
[08:36] <seb128> Laney, I'm going to create a blueprint now, then start looking at the seed (let me know if you had a start on it so I don't dup work ;-)
[08:37] <Laney> seb128: not the seed, I'm trying to build an unchanged ubuntu iso to start
[08:37] <seb128> ok, good
[08:37] <seb128> I'm going to start on the blueprint/list of packages then
[08:50] <Sweetshark> moin!
[08:51] <Sweetshark> seb128: sooo, whats the suggessted version for the fixed precise SRU? 1:3.5.7-0ubuntu7? or maybe 1:3.5.7-0ubuntu6.1?
[08:52] <seb128> Sweetshark, either works, just made sure it's not a version that was used in other series
[08:55] <Sweetshark> seb128: and a/ should it have a new changelog entry or a modified existing one? b/ if new changelog, the -v for dpkg-genchanges should be the last version in precise (not the last version in precise-proposed) thus having two versions in the changes file, right?
[08:56] <Sweetshark> (as for other versions/series: we dont even have anything as ancient as 1:3.5.7-xxx in any other series at all)
[08:57] <seb128> Sweetshark, b/ and yes, -v1:3.5.7-0ubuntu5 (or whatever is the current precise-updates version)
[08:57] <seb128> e.g the .changes should include both uploads
[08:57] <Sweetshark> seb128: thanks.
[08:57] <seb128> yw!
[08:59] <Sweetshark> seb128: FWIW, Ill write a short postmortem mail still on why this happened and how we might prevent it the future (hopefully still today)
[09:02] <seb128> Sweetshark, ok
[09:02] <seb128> Sweetshark, didn't you get a non virtual ppa with armhf builders? could we have test build it there?
[09:12] <ochosi> seb128: quick question, anything else to do for https://launchpad.net/bugs/1316509 ? (btw, just saw on errors.ubuntu.com that the related bug is #5 in the overall list for 14.04...)
[09:14] <Laney> okay ubuntu-defaults-image produces a working iso
[09:14] <Laney> I wonder what that was doing differently to me ...
[09:19] <seb128> ochosi, no, I'm going to sponsor that today, sorry for the delay, yesterday was an holiday here
[09:19] <seb128> Laney, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1410-unity8-desktop-iso btw (you probably saw it through email, subscribed you)
[09:19] <Laney> yep, thanks
[09:20] <Laney> I'll take a couple of the items
[09:20] <seb128> thanks, I was unsure how to split them, those are just a few random one to get something on the list
[09:21] <seb128> so feel free to regroup/tweak/add some other ones
[09:22] <Laney> yeah i'm sure more will come up
[09:27] <Sweetshark> seb128: yes, thatwould be one conclusion in the post-mortem. I didnt use the PPA yet, as we wanted to make the builder able to produce binaries that we could dump into the archive without rebuilding again and that needed a specific setup.
[09:28] <Sweetshark> (actually two setups and PPAs IIRC, one for ubuntu+1 uploads and one for SRUs)
[09:28] <seb128> Sweetshark, right, without that you could still use the ppa for test builds
[09:28] <Sweetshark> seb128: yep
[09:28] <seb128> but even better if that could be used for security updates/SRUs
[09:34] <ochosi> seb128: sure, no worries! thanks for the sponsoring!
[09:36] <seb128> yw!
[09:52] <darkxst> seb128, Laney, so what can happen with g-s-d/g-c-c can they be added to ubuntu-gnome packageset while still in main? or should I just apply for ubuntu-desktop?
[09:59] <seb128> darkxst, I'm fine having them added to the ubuntu-gnome packageset, we might want to move the schemas/shared-data to be built from the unity variants instead, that might let us demote g-s-d
[10:07] <Laney> I think it's best to move them there, as when we finally fix the sets to be generated again they'll require an exception at that point
[10:24] <Laney> http://people.canonical.com/~laney/random-scripts/build-ubuntu-iso
[10:24] <Laney> that works to build an unchanged iso
[10:24] <Laney> should be able to add a new project to livecd-rootfs (auto/config) to test this new stuff iiuc
[10:26] <seb128> Laney, is that a new script?
[10:26] <seb128> don't we have standard tools/documented workflow to build isos?
[10:27] <Laney> it's not very easy
[10:28] <seb128> :-(
[10:28] <Laney> some of that was nicked from ubuntu-defaults-builder though, which was useful
[10:28] <seb128> I tried once with ubuntu-defaults-builder when Kylin started
[10:28] <seb128> that worked fine
[10:28] <seb128> but cjwatson helped them to use the standard infra/seeds later on
[10:28] <Laney> they still don't use seeds
[10:29] <seb128> they don't use ubuntu-defaults-builder anymore afaik?
[10:29] <seb128> I didn't follow the details
[10:29] <Laney> sure do
[10:29] <seb128> k, I had the impression Colin made them do things differently
[10:29] <Laney> it's why they have all those hacks to remove packages and stuff
[10:29] <seb128> but I didn't follow, so maybe I got the wrong impression
[10:29] <Laney> because they aren't using proper seeds yet
[10:29] <Laney> that is the goal though
[10:29] <seb128> crazyness
[10:30] <seb128> building an iso should be easier :/
[10:34] <Laney> for most people ubuntu-defaults-builder should be quite easy
[10:34] <Laney> we want to be able to test a new project though
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[11:01] <darkxst> seb128, why not just split the schemas? I am a little concerned about having all these redundant keys, in g-s-d
[11:05] <darkxst> basically people google problem (it say to set some key with dconf-editor) but that is an old key that does nothing in GNOME
[11:06] <darkxst> and its only going to get worse as cycles progress
[11:07] <darkxst> g-c-c shared data makes sense though since that stuff doesnt really change
[11:11] <darkxst> (atleast until gnome decide to dump it all into a gresource, although that probablty won't happen for icons etc)
[11:14] <Laney> http://ubuntuone.com/6tnvx5bt6IuhIG8DNFq4X0
[11:20] <seb128> Laney, what remix are you doing? ;-)
[11:20] <seb128> darkxst, split the schemas how?
[11:21] <darkxst> seb128, fork them
[11:21] <Laney> heh
[11:21] <seb128> like have a new source?
[11:21] <Laney> I made a version which doesn't install ubuntu-desktop
[11:21] <seb128> or like change the keys for Unity?
[11:21] <Laney> that's what you get
[11:21] <seb128> k
[11:21] <darkxst> yes rename 3.8 keys for unity
[11:22] <seb128> that would require to migrate datas
[11:22] <seb128> do you suggest doing that for all keys?
[11:22] <seb128> or just the ones GNOME drops?
[11:23] <darkxst> seb128, just brainstorming here really, I really certain what is best
[11:23] <darkxst> probably most of the keys dropped in 3.12, could also be dropped in u-s-d
[11:24] <darkxst> but things like the changes in 3.10 are quite disruptive for u-s-d
[11:24] <seb128> ideally upstream would treat gsettings schemas as an abi
[11:24] <seb128> e.g don't do incompatible changes
[11:24] <seb128> especially that gsettings abort on missing keus
[11:24] <seb128> keys
[11:26] <darkxst> seb128, would be even better if the world didnt crash for a missing key!
[11:26] <seb128> indeed
[11:52] <rickspencer3> good morning desktoppers
[11:52] <rickspencer3> o/ seb128 are you back today?
[11:52] <seb128> rickspencer3, hey
[11:52] <seb128> rickspencer3, yes, only the 8th was an holiday
[11:53] <rickspencer3> welcome back :)
[11:53] <seb128> thanks, you too ;-)
[11:53] <seb128> (you were off 2 days, then it was off for us, little overlap this week)
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[13:24] <Laney> seb128: I made ppa:~ubuntu-desktop/unity8-flavour to put packages in for making test images
[13:24] <Laney> will update the iso script to add that
[13:25] <seb128> Laney, ok, great
[13:25] <seb128> Laney, I've a list of packages but I'm not sure what we want to do
[13:25] <seb128> do we want a proper seed?
[13:25] <Laney> think so
[13:25] <seb128> or start with the Kylin style
[13:25] <seb128> like adding packages to install/remove
[13:25] <Laney> I think we've learned that that doesn't work very well for flavours
[13:28] <seb128> Laney, so you use http://people.canonical.com/~laney/random-scripts/build-ubuntu-iso to build an iso? how do you provide it the seed/packages to install/...?
[13:28] <Laney> + seeds would be closer to what touch does already
[13:28] <Laney> that builds just an unmodified Ubuntu iso at the minute
[13:29] <Laney> you modify auto/config which comes from livecd-rootfs to add a new PROJECT
[13:29] <Laney> which then says what to install
[13:30] <Laney> so we'll add a new project type in there that installs the new task/metapackage
[13:31] <seb128> k
[13:31]  * seb128 gets livecd-rootfs to have a look
[13:32] <Laney> xnox: do you know how the ubuntu-live task works?
[13:32] <Laney> http://ubuntuone.com/6tnvx5bt6IuhIG8DNFq4X0 shows that it doesn't really install enough packages on its own
[13:33] <xnox> Could not access backend storage
[13:34] <Laney> f5
[13:35] <xnox> Laney: that looks like a reasonable default ubiquity look, if like a desktop is missing.
[13:35] <xnox> =)
[13:36] <xnox> Laney: are you expecting ubuntu-settings-daemon or gnome-settings-daemon & e.g. light-themes installed?
[13:36] <Laney> yeah I'm wondering if it should install a theme and icons or not
[13:36] <xnox> Laney: i think you do want ubuntu-font installed & that set.
[13:37] <xnox> Laney: look at ubiquity-dm and i'm happy to tweak it to make ubiquity look better in this strip down environment.
[13:37] <Laney> my question is is that the responsibility of the flavour or should the ubuntu-live task do it
[13:37] <Laney> i'm not massively interested in supporting the bare bones thing :P
[13:38] <seb128> ./build-ubuntu-iso: 65: ./build-ubuntu-iso: PROJECT=ubuntu: not found
[13:38] <seb128> hum
[13:38] <xnox> hm, a bit of both. e.g. one needs to explicitly seeds things "e.g. unity-settings-daemon" and ubiquity-dm has been tweaked to take advantage of whats's available in the "live session"
[13:39] <xnox> so we try to mimic "live session" as much as possible.... but if there is no live-session to mimic, one needs to seed things to trick ubiquity-dm expectations.
[13:39] <xnox> it's just you want to be seeded, in a way that gets auto-removed on the installed system.
[13:40] <xnox> similar to how e.g. btrfs-tools is seeded.
[13:40] <Laney> that's fine
[13:40] <xnox> i looks like you do have a gnome/unity-settings-daemon running
[13:40] <xnox> since solid blue is the default background color.
[13:41] <xnox> and ubiquity does nothing to that, so a package which sets default background schema key / override is missing.
[13:42] <xnox> ditto, indicators are present -> their icon theme clearly isn't, and/or settings keys to pick the right default theme.
[13:42] <charles> mpt, wrt, bug 1196059, sure
[13:42] <mpt> thanks
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[13:46] <seb128> Laney, that script is supposed to be run into a livecd-rootfs tree or something?
[13:46] <Laney> seb128: no, a clean directory
[13:46] <seb128> Laney," build-ubuntu-iso: PROJECT=ubuntu: not found"
[13:46] <seb128> doh
[13:47] <Laney> that sounds like a syntax error though
[13:47] <Laney> but it works for me
[13:47] <seb128> I guess I need to install livecd-rootfs
[13:47] <Laney> yep
[13:47] <Laney> i put a list at the top
[13:47] <seb128> oh, DOH
[13:47] <seb128> I though that was a list of stuff the script was installing :p
[13:47] <seb128> thanks ;-)
[13:47] <Laney> that list might not be complete
[13:48] <Laney> like if I had some stuff already installed
[13:48] <seb128> I've all those installed
[13:48] <Laney> how are you running it?
[13:49] <Laney> I dunno why you'd get an error but not me
[13:49] <seb128> $ sudo ./build-ubuntu-iso
[13:49] <seb128> but l65 is
[13:49] <seb128> $SUDO PROJECT=$PROJECT ARCH=$ARCH lb build
[13:49] <seb128> I fail to see a command there?
[13:50] <seb128> ignore that
[13:51] <seb128> works without sudo
[13:52] <Laney> interesting
[13:56] <seb128> hum
[13:56] <seb128> "chroot: failed to run command '/usr/bin/env': No such file or directory
[13:56] <seb128> "
[13:58] <Laney> I got that once, think it went away when I started again from a clean directory
[13:58] <seb128> k
[13:58]  * seb128 tries that
[14:18] <seb128> Laney, bah, "build/chroot/test-dev-null: Permission denied"
[14:18] <seb128> I keep hitting that
[14:18] <seb128> and it bails out with
[14:18] <seb128> "chroot: failed to run command '/usr/bin/env': No such file or directory"
[14:18] <seb128> displayed
[14:18] <Laney> wtf
[14:19] <Laney> I never saw that one
[14:19] <seb128> do you run it under sudo ?
[14:19] <Laney> not directly
[14:19] <seb128> or let the wrapper do the sudo ?
[14:19] <seb128> let me try that
[14:19] <Laney> I just ./file
[14:26] <didrocks> no cookie for mterry! backup are failing again
[14:27] <mterry> didrocks, uh oh
[14:27] <didrocks> mterry: actually, I wonder if it's not rather the check (which isn't done after each backup) fails?
[14:27] <mterry> didrocks, very possible
[14:27] <didrocks> mterry: telling me I have no ~/.cache/deja-dup/metadata file in my backup… Which is true, I don't have any in my ~
[14:28] <didrocks> mterry: I ignore ~/.cache, but I guess that's fine? (maybe the default?)
[14:29] <mterry> didrocks, so that is a canary-in-the-goldmine file
[14:29] <mterry> didrocks, deja-dup inserts that into every backup
[14:29] <mterry> didrocks, and when verifying, tries to recover that file
[14:29] <mterry> didrocks, looks like it had a problem
[14:29] <didrocks> :(
[14:29] <mterry> didrocks, and yeah, DD ignores ~/.cache by default
[14:30] <didrocks> ok, it wasn't me adding that up
[14:30] <mterry> didrocks, is that all the info it gives?  Ideally we'd tell you the error that happened
[14:30] <didrocks> so, it's really that the backup is failing maybe
[14:30] <mterry> didrocks, well.  Backup is apparently completing fine.  But looks like your files may not be as recoverable as we think
[14:31] <didrocks> mterry: if I translate the GUI error in english, it's roughly "can't restore "/home/didrocks/.cache/deja-dup/metadata": the file isn't in the backup"
[14:31] <mterry> didrocks, that should be nicer  :-/
[14:32] <didrocks> mterry: I grepped your code for any "I hate didrocks" or anything… but it seems you obfuscated it :p
[14:32] <didrocks> mterry: any log files I can look at?
[14:32] <mterry> didrocks, no, but you could run DD like "DEJA_DUP_DEBUG=1 deja-dup --backup" and get all sorts of logging
[14:33] <didrocks> mterry: ok, doing
[14:33] <mterry> didrocks, thanks!
[14:33] <didrocks> mterry: thanks to you! hoping I'll get enough debug infos :)
[14:33] <didrocks> info*
[14:33]  * didrocks even runs with LANG=C
[14:34] <didrocks> "all sorts of loggin" -> it's quite accurate :p
[14:41] <Laney> ok cool it booted into unity8
[14:42] <Laney> not that it works in any way well in a vm
[14:42] <Laney> oh that's a bit better
[14:43] <seb128> it should work in a vm
[14:43] <seb128> well llvmpipe, it might be slow and stuff
[14:43] <Laney> http://ubuntuone.com/3xvHfv1njOAPBcFCIQpRF1
[14:43] <seb128> or do you mean unity8 on Mir?
[14:43] <Laney> I had to change the driver
[14:43] <Laney> nah, this is x11
[14:43] <seb128> k
[14:43] <seb128> makes sense
[14:43] <seb128> I'm not sure you can use Mir in a vm
[14:44] <Laney> I didn't dare try that first
[14:44]  * Laney updates the online script copy
[14:44] <Laney> oh let me fix the sudo thing first
[14:45] <seb128> did you figure out what is wrong?
[14:45] <seb128> the variable is empty
[14:45] <seb128> that should be like it was not there?
[14:45] <Laney> it's just some shell scripting problem
[14:45] <Laney> but no, not yet
[14:45] <seb128> k
[14:45] <seb128> well if you figure it out, let me know
[14:45] <seb128> I'm curious to know what's wrong
[14:45] <seb128> I tried to figure it out, but that just escape my shell knowledge
[14:47] <Laney> yeah I would have expected that to work
[14:49] <seb128> Laney, ok, good news is that after starting fresh (wget the script again, new directory) I don't get the env error anymore, not sure what changed though
[14:49] <didrocks> mterry: it didn't complain (apart from some files it couldnt' back up)
[14:49] <Laney> It seems to be a bit picky if something goes wrong in a run
[14:49] <Laney> like clean doesn't clean back to a working state then
[14:49] <seb128> yeah
[14:49] <didrocks> mterry: does it try everytime to do this restore "metadata" file?
[14:50] <mterry> didrocks, yeah, if memory serves
[14:51] <didrocks> mterry: weird then… so I can at least reproduce the flakyness of sometimes it's backing up successfully, sometimes not…
[14:51] <mterry> hrm
[15:04] <Laney> seb128: bah I don't know, I can't find an answer so I'll work around by using 'env' in the empty case
[15:05] <seb128> Laney, maybe try asking on #ubuntu-devel, we have some shell script gurus in there
[15:05] <Laney> I asked on the twittersphere
[15:06] <seb128> has twitter proved efficient for those sort of things? ;-)
[15:06] <Laney> some nerds follow me :P
[15:06] <seb128> hehe
[15:08] <Laney> ok there's a new version which adds the ppa
[15:08] <Laney> and changes the flavour, so you'll need the new livecd-rootfs, coming in 5 minutes
[15:08] <seb128> ok
[15:19] <Laney> there
[15:19] <Laney> remember you need that on the host
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[15:24] <seb128> right
[15:28] <seb128> Sweetshark, not sure if you saw, but https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1219245 is ranked high on e.u.c for trusty (n°6 on the daily report)
[15:29] <seb128> (what happened to the bot?)
[15:35] <xnox> seb128: annual leave =)
[15:36] <Laney> french bot
[15:38] <didrocks> roh
[15:38] <seb128> heh, friday trolling!
[15:39] <Laney> ;)
[15:52] <mvo_> seb128: if the control center complains that it can not find a plugin for provider ubuntuone, am I misisng a package? or is utopic broken currently?
[15:53] <seb128> mvo_, that never worked, use the ubuntuone-control-panel-qt on desktop
[15:54] <seb128> mvo_, that's bug #1287640
[15:55] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center-signon/+bug/1287640
[15:58] <mvo_> seb128: thanks
[15:59] <seb128> yw
[15:59] <seb128> mvo_, if that's for the touch stack, you can also use ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts to configure it
[16:03] <mvo_> seb128: hm, u1-control-panel-qt is not available in utopic
[16:03] <mvo_> seb128: I'm on unity8 desktop
[16:04] <seb128> mvo_, install ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts
[16:04] <seb128> use settings -> accounts
[16:05] <mvo_> seb128: hm, now I have a focus proble
[16:07] <kenvandine> seb128, can you please NEW the i386 binary for libphonenumber?
[16:07]  * kenvandine is glad to have that one behind him
[16:08] <seb128> kenvandine, looking
[16:09] <andyrock> seb128, hey
[16:09] <andyrock> seb128, how can we do that? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1281058/comments/21
[16:09] <andyrock> just the first point
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[16:11]  * xnox ponders what is the Chinese word for "scopes" =)
[16:11] <seb128> andyrock, I can do it for you if you give me a branch
[16:12] <seb128> andyrock, it's basically "build an updated pot, upload it through https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/unity/+pots/unity/+upload"
[16:12] <ogra_> xnox, oh, did you get spam as well ?
[16:12]  * ogra_ noticed that too
[16:13] <andyrock> seb128, https://code.launchpad.net/~andyrock/unity/lp-1281058/+merge/215331
[16:14] <xnox> ogra_: yeah, didn't see travel approval code in that mail however =)
[16:14] <ogra_> lol
[16:15] <Laney> heh
[16:15] <Laney> "15.30 am"
[16:16] <ogra_> thats early :P
[16:18] <seb128> andyrock, is that design approved, the strings are not going to change?
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[16:27] <andyrock> JohnLea, around?
[16:27] <andyrock> seb128, let's ask to John
[16:31] <rsalveti> seb128: need to upload http://paste.ubuntu.com/7422235/, how do you want me to proceed?
[16:31] <rsalveti> seb128: doing a silo and such?
[16:32] <seb128> rsalveti, doesn't seem necessary, feel free to upload/commit directly to trunk
[16:32] <seb128> rsalveti, thanks for checking first btw ;-)
[16:32] <rsalveti> seb128: sure, np, thanks
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[16:45] <andyrock> seb128, i sent an email to john
[16:45] <andyrock> let's wait for the answer
[16:49] <seb128> andyrock, k
[17:19] <Laney> happy weekend everyone!
[17:20] <seb128> Laney, thanks, you too!
[17:20]  * Laney hugs jasoncwarner 
[17:20] <Laney> best of luck!
[17:21] <jasoncwarner> thanks Laney :) same back!
[19:19] <mvo_> jasoncwarner: hey, best of luck and happy weekend
[19:19]  * mvo_ waves and vanishes
[19:42] <kenvandine> jasoncwarner, oh my... clock is ticking on your last day!
[19:50] <jasoncwarner> Thanks mvo! And kenvandine  yeah. But I'll still hangout here so I can pester people with my pet bugs ;)
[19:50] <kenvandine> hehe
[19:51] <kenvandine> jasoncwarner, can't believe your leaving, we'll miss you
[19:51] <kenvandine> and the steak!
[19:53] <jasoncwarner> kenvandine: mostly the steak ;) but yeah, same goes here!!!
[19:53] <kenvandine> nah... the steak was just a perk
[19:53] <kenvandine> :)
[19:55] <jasoncwarner> kenvandine:  :)
[19:56] <kenvandine> but i'll be sure to tell bfiller the bar you set, he'll have to try to live up to the steak houses :)
[19:56] <kenvandine> jasoncwarner, did i tell you went went to that greek place in orlando in feb?  there was some table dancing :)
[19:59] <jasoncwarner> kenvandine: no! Who was it this time ?
[20:00] <kenvandine> all the teams that went on the sprint
[20:00] <kenvandine> i think about 40 of us...
[20:00] <kenvandine> and i'm pretty sure everyone ended up on the table at some point :)
[20:01] <jasoncwarner> Nice
[20:01] <kenvandine> fun place, great place to get to know a new manager :)
[20:06] <jasoncwarner> kenvandine: new person better get that in interview process ;)
[20:06] <jasoncwarner> Good social question for them ;)
[20:08] <Sweetshark> jasoncwarner: so where is the pet bug vs. steak exchange rate right now?
[20:12] <dobey> hah
[20:12] <dobey> i don't think i ever actually went to Opa! in orlando
[20:13] <kenvandine> dobey, fun place
[20:14] <dobey> yeah, i saw
[20:15] <dobey> i liked Cuba Libre much more though ;)
[20:16] <dobey> but hard to compete with a menu of like 100 different rums
[20:16] <kenvandine> yum... rum
[20:16] <kenvandine> dobey, which week are you going to be in malta?
[20:16] <dobey> kenvandine: 2nd
[20:17] <kenvandine> bummer... i haven't hung out with you in ages
[20:17] <dobey> yeah
[20:18] <dobey> kenvandine: when are you going to williamsburg? :P
[20:18] <kenvandine> haha
[20:18] <kenvandine> hopefully not until halloween :)
[20:19] <kenvandine> to scare the kids again at busch gardens
[20:21] <dobey> heh
[20:41] <jasoncwarner> Sweetshark: for some bugs, I'd gladly exchange steak for fix-committed ;)
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