| === TheLordOfTime is now known as teward | |
| [00:12] <wxl> one: no need for a private message | |
| [00:17] <one> Is there any way to use 8.8.8.8 to echo the ip address back? | |
| [00:18] <one> I want to make a little applet to display the external ip on the desktop at boot. | |
| [00:19] <wxl> one: curl http://ipecho.net/plain | |
| [00:27] <one> Is root always able to loook into an user encrypted home directory? | |
| [00:27] <wxl> i would expect the answer to be no to that but i do not know | |
| [00:31] <one> I would have thought that is the idea of using enc home except root appears to be able to look into it. | |
| [00:44] <one> are there a lot of german speakers in dallas texas? | |
| [00:46] <one> Trying to figure out why there are pipes to verizon in texas | |
| [01:43] <one> What is the command to show which package a file belongs to? | |
| [01:45] <one> Or even just the location of the update-notofier ps -ax just shows the name and no path. | |
| [01:46] <Unit193> dpkg -S `which update-notofier` | |
| [04:10] <one> unable to ping lo | |
| [04:11] <one> What may be the reason for this? | |
| [04:11] <one> The netfilter doesn't seem to be setup right. | |
| [04:11] <one> It is allowing all outgoing pings | |
| [04:12] <one> And pings out to the net work fine | |
| [04:12] <one> But something is blocking pings to lo | |
| [04:14] <one> Which is still perplexing considering mailx works without allowing smtp | |
| [04:15] <one> so pings to lo are getting dropped but smtp is allowed? | |
| [04:20] <one> hmm | |
| [04:59] <duoi> what is the minium system requirements for lubuntu? | |
| [04:59] <duoi> s/minium/minimum | |
| [04:59] <wxl> not much, duoi. whatcha got? | |
| [04:59] <duoi> wxl, 1GB HDD space | |
| [05:00] <wxl> duoi: oh, well, that's a problem. XD | |
| [05:02] <wxl> duoi: typically i think you need 8gb but there's ways around that | |
| [05:03] <wxl> duoi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall | |
| [05:03] <duoi> wxl, all of the documentation seems to focus on memory instead of storage. minimum requirements dont even mention storage :/ | |
| [05:04] <wxl> duoi: unfortunately i don't think we've documented how much hard drive space core or desktop would take up | |
| [05:04] <wxl> duoi: that's because storage is crazzy cheap! | |
| [05:04] <wxl> i mean honestly i can't remember the last time i saw a 1gb hdd | |
| [05:04] <wxl> and i'm surrounded by old stuff XD | |
| [05:05] <ianorlin> the last time I saw a 2 gb one the computer didn't even have an ethernet port and no wireless | |
| [05:05] <Unit193> I could walk into the basement and pull one out for you, wxl. | |
| [05:05] <wxl> right | |
| [05:05] <wxl> Unit193: you know some fancy trick to figure out the total installed/package sizes of lubuntu-core and its dependencies? | |
| [05:06] <duoi> heh, all i can spare is 1GB for this VM. my total storage space on this machine is 64gb, and you can imagine that id have very little left after windows and a few programs | |
| [05:06] <Unit193> wxl: No fancy tricks, though I have something else that would be about the same. | |
| [05:06] <ianorlin> you can install on a usb hdd if you want to | |
| [05:06] <wxl> duoi: easy solution→kill windows | |
| [05:06] <wxl> Unit193: i'm all ears | |
| [05:06] <ianorlin> but may need plop then | |
| [05:06] <wxl> +1 ianorlin | |
| [05:07] <ianorlin> seriously you can get a massive 1tb for like 80 bucks as a 2.5" drive and not have to plug it in to a power source | |
| [05:08] <Unit193> duoi: Is this ssd? | |
| [05:08] <duoi> Unit193, yes | |
| [05:08] <Unit193> Figured, with that size. | |
| [05:08] <wxl> :) | |
| [05:08] <duoi> proprietary too. so i cant upgrade it. thanks obama. | |
| [05:09] <wxl> um? | |
| [05:09] <wxl> is it part of obamacare or something? | |
| [05:10] * ianorlin doesn't see what obama has to do with any of this | |
| [05:10] <duoi> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/thanks-obama | |
| [05:10] <wxl> DUDE I JUST FOUND THE AIRPLANE IN MY HARD DRIVE | |
| === duoi is now known as duoi_afk | |
| === duoi_afk is now known as duoi | |
| [06:52] <one> Why does the rhythmbox ddap share default to listening on an ipv6 port? | |
| [06:53] <one> It is creating usage problems confsidering my filters are set for inet only at present | |
| [06:53] <one> Is there a way to change it to listen on an ip4 port? | |
| [06:55] <one> Also the empathy bonjour. | |
| [07:00] <one> there are no ipv6 interfaces up and it still binds to tcp6 | |
| [07:02] <one> hey | |
| [07:02] <one> hey! | |
| [07:02] <one> hey ya ya ya | |
| === duoi is now known as duoi_afk | |
| [10:10] <hanner> hi, what is the default username/pw for the live session? screensaver locked me out during installation wizard :/ | |
| === duoi_afk is now known as duoi | |
| === duoi is now known as duoi_afk | |
| [19:09] <nch> Hi there, does anyone knows a good GUI for GPG in Lubuntu? Kgpg asks me for several of related files I dont want to install. (Sorry if the question is irrelevant :-) I'm new in town :-) ) | |
| [19:09] <wxl> !search gpg | |
| [19:09] <ubottu> Found: gpg, keyserver, torgpg, torsasl, tor-gpg, gpgerr, ppagpg, pgp, tor-sasl, badsig and 1 more, see http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=gpg | |
| [19:10] <wxl> oh that's not what i wanted silly | |
| [19:10] <Unit193> nch: seahourse isn't so bad. | |
| [19:10] <Unit193> seahorse* | |
| [19:12] <nch> Thank you for the suggestion Unit193, I'll give it a try. ;) | |
| [19:32] <FuuqUmiist> what do you type to upgrade 13.04 to 13.10? | |
| [19:33] <Unit193> You can either use the upgrade-manager, or do-release-upgrade | |
| [19:34] <holstein> yup.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/368738/update-to-13-10-without-gui-access | |
| [19:34] <holstein> i would rather fresh install.. | |
| [19:35] <FuuqUmiist> fresh install wasn't working properly, i wasted 5 dvds trying to fresh install | |
| [19:40] <holstein> i usually waste 5+ hours trying to upgrade ;) | |
| [19:42] <FuuqUmiist> i can just upgrade then come back 5 hours later right? | |
| [19:43] <holstein> FuuqUmiist: as i said, i just fresh install.. im not sure what you can do.. depends on network speed, etc | |
| [19:43] <FuuqUmiist> or do i have to enter and click things throughout the 5 hours? | |
| [19:44] <Unit193> Depends, sometimes it does ask questions as to if it should overwrite a file. | |
| [19:44] <Unit193> (Doesn't normally take 5hours for me at least, depends on connection and other factors.) | |
| [19:45] <holstein> Unit193: you get in under an hour? | |
| [19:45] <Unit193> holstein: Don't think that fast. :P | |
| [19:45] <Unit193> Depends on the mirror too. | |
| [19:45] <holstein> yeah.. thats true | |
| [19:45] <holstein> i assume its always on my end where the bottleneck is | |
| [19:46] <Unit193> speedtest.net or cachefly, and see how much slower the archive is. | |
| [20:38] <FuuqUmiist> i think lubuntu froze when it restarted after the upgrade | |
| [20:45] <FuuqUmiist> omg, the upgrade didn't work | |
| [21:18] <holstein> FuuqUmiist: upgrades can fail.. depends on many things, such as your network setup | |
| [21:18] <holstein> regardless, i'll usually test a live CD anyways.. "dont work" is not enough information for me to propose what could have happened | |
| [21:18] <holstein> typically, i'll try tty | |
| [21:18] <holstein> !tty | |
| [21:18] <ubottu> To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution | |
| [21:19] <holstein> to see if the system is there, and not reponding graphically, or whatever.. could be as simple as the graphics card not being supported in 13.10 | |
| [21:19] <FuuqUmiist> lubuntu wouldn't even boot | |
| [21:19] <holstein> i would just be installing 14.04 at this point, however, since its so close to coming out.. again, just muy peronsal preference | |
| [21:20] <holstein> FuuqUmiist: wont boot in what way? hardware failure? bad hard drive? grub not responding? noX? recovery console working? | |
| [21:21] <FuuqUmiist> it stalls at the lubuntu screen, or sometimes will just remain blank | |
| [21:21] <phillw> (21:19:31) holstein: i would just be installing 14.04 at this point, however, since its so close to coming out.. again, just muy peronsal preference | |
| [21:21] <phillw> +1 | |
| [21:22] <holstein> FuuqUmiist: and you can tty? or no? and the recovery console? have you tried the vesa driver? or safe graphics mode? | |
| [21:22] <FuuqUmiist> actually i just finished reinstall 13.04 | |
| [21:22] <holstein> 13.04 is EOL | |
| [21:22] <FuuqUmiist> i know, buts its the only dvd that works | |
| [21:23] <holstein> thats not true here | |
| [21:23] <holstein> you would have to ask a question to get support.. like "i burn DVD's like this and this happens" | |
| [21:23] <holstein> saying they dont work, is a statement | |
| [21:23] <holstein> i installed 13.10 and 14.04 lubuntu from DVD here | |
| [21:24] <FuuqUmiist> my the dvd drive is failing or something | |
| [21:24] <holstein> FuuqUmiist: so, thats nothing to do with the iso or the product them | |
| [21:24] <holstein> then* | |
| [21:25] <FuuqUmiist> but the upgrade didn't work too | |
| [21:25] <holstein> FuuqUmiist: the DVD is *not* failing in that scenario, if that is true.. the optical drive is.. what do i do in that scenario? i'll take the drive to another machine and install, then put the drive back | |
| [21:25] <holstein> FuuqUmiist: i prefer fresh installs over upgrades.. | |
| [21:27] <holstein> you could be having any graphics issue, like the one i mentioned above, and you wouldnt know if support has been dropped from the kernel for your hardware | |
| [21:27] <FuuqUmiist> i think i'll jsut use 13.04 for this computer since the computer won't be using the internet much, and the other computers i'll just keep with windows | |
| [21:28] <holstein> again, i would use 14.04 at this point | |
| [21:28] <holstein> but, i'll just wait til you have a support question | |
| [21:28] <FuuqUmiist> yeah, but its not released, maybe i'll try it in the future when i have time | |
| [21:28] <holstein> FuuqUmiist: it *is* available.. | |
| [21:30] <holstein> ive probably had 5 successful 14.04 installs since you have been coming here about that machine | |
| [21:31] <FuuqUmiist> where is the iso | |
| [21:31] <holstein> neither 13.04 nor 14.04 are officially supported.. at least 14.04 is scheduled for support, and it will get years of support | |
| [21:32] <holstein> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/pending/ | |
| [21:32] <holstein> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/beta-1/ | |
| [21:33] <holstein> !14.04 | |
| [21:33] <ubottu> Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu. See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+1 | |
| [21:33] <holstein> i shouldnt say there is no support for 14.04.. | |
| [21:34] <FuuqUmiist> it is updated daily, i think i'll just use the stable 13.03 since i know it installs and works | |
| [21:34] <holstein> FuuqUmiist: 13.04* is not "stable".. its EOL | |
| [21:34] <holstein> FuuqUmiist: its dead.. not supported any more.. its ended | |
| [21:36] <FuuqUmiist> as along as you can watch movies, listen to music, type up documents, it should be fine for now | |
| [21:36] <holstein> you shouldnt do *anything* with it.. besides replace it with a supported operating system.. you shouldnt have it online at all.. but, you will probably be, fine.. | |
| [21:37] <holstein> its just not fair, or accurate to consider it "stable" when its EOL | |
| [21:37] <FuuqUmiist> it probably won't be online much, i think they will use it mainly to watch movies and listen to music with, maybe typing up some documents | |
| [21:38] <holstein> as long as you dont consider, or state that its stable in anyway.. or consider or state it as safe, or supported.. its EOL | |
| === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as Mohi | |
| [22:41] <one> join ##kernel | |
| [23:42] <FuuqUmiist> how do you remove abiword without removing lubuntu-desktop | |
| [23:42] <Unit193> You don't, you let lubuntu-desktop go too. | |
| [23:44] <FuuqUmiist> that sucks | |
| [23:45] <Unit193> Why? | |
| [23:45] <Unit193> !meta | |
| [23:46] <Unit193> !metapackage | |
| [23:46] <ubottu> A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions. | |
| [23:47] <FuuqUmiist> so if i remove lubuntu-desktop what software will be removed? | |
| [23:49] <FuuqUmiist> the good thing about lxde is that there wasn't too much integration | |
| [23:51] <FuuqUmiist> Unit193 do you know how to make a folder shortcut on the panel? | |
| [23:52] <Unit193> If you remove lubuntu-deskop, you lost nothing. | |
| [23:52] <FuuqUmiist> oh ok | |
| [23:53] <Unit193> I tend to like desktop files telling pcmanfm to open them, but you can also just use a common link. | |
| === duoi_afk is now known as duoi | |