=== TheLordOfTime is now known as teward [00:12] one: no need for a private message [00:17] Is there any way to use 8.8.8.8 to echo the ip address back? [00:18] I want to make a little applet to display the external ip on the desktop at boot. [00:19] one: curl http://ipecho.net/plain [00:27] Is root always able to loook into an user encrypted home directory? [00:27] i would expect the answer to be no to that but i do not know [00:31] I would have thought that is the idea of using enc home except root appears to be able to look into it. [00:44] are there a lot of german speakers in dallas texas? [00:46] Trying to figure out why there are pipes to verizon in texas [01:43] What is the command to show which package a file belongs to? [01:45] Or even just the location of the update-notofier ps -ax just shows the name and no path. [01:46] dpkg -S `which update-notofier` [04:10] unable to ping lo [04:11] What may be the reason for this? [04:11] The netfilter doesn't seem to be setup right. [04:11] It is allowing all outgoing pings [04:12] And pings out to the net work fine [04:12] But something is blocking pings to lo [04:14] Which is still perplexing considering mailx works without allowing smtp [04:15] so pings to lo are getting dropped but smtp is allowed? [04:20] hmm [04:59] what is the minium system requirements for lubuntu? [04:59] s/minium/minimum [04:59] not much, duoi. whatcha got? [04:59] wxl, 1GB HDD space [05:00] duoi: oh, well, that's a problem. XD [05:02] duoi: typically i think you need 8gb but there's ways around that [05:03] duoi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall [05:03] wxl, all of the documentation seems to focus on memory instead of storage. minimum requirements dont even mention storage :/ [05:04] duoi: unfortunately i don't think we've documented how much hard drive space core or desktop would take up [05:04] duoi: that's because storage is crazzy cheap! [05:04] i mean honestly i can't remember the last time i saw a 1gb hdd [05:04] and i'm surrounded by old stuff XD [05:05] the last time I saw a 2 gb one the computer didn't even have an ethernet port and no wireless [05:05] I could walk into the basement and pull one out for you, wxl. [05:05] right [05:05] Unit193: you know some fancy trick to figure out the total installed/package sizes of lubuntu-core and its dependencies? [05:06] heh, all i can spare is 1GB for this VM. my total storage space on this machine is 64gb, and you can imagine that id have very little left after windows and a few programs [05:06] wxl: No fancy tricks, though I have something else that would be about the same. [05:06] you can install on a usb hdd if you want to [05:06] duoi: easy solution→kill windows [05:06] Unit193: i'm all ears [05:06] but may need plop then [05:06] +1 ianorlin [05:07] seriously you can get a massive 1tb for like 80 bucks as a 2.5" drive and not have to plug it in to a power source [05:08] duoi: Is this ssd? [05:08] Unit193, yes [05:08] Figured, with that size. [05:08] :) [05:08] proprietary too. so i cant upgrade it. thanks obama. [05:09] um? [05:09] is it part of obamacare or something? [05:10] * ianorlin doesn't see what obama has to do with any of this [05:10] http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/thanks-obama [05:10] DUDE I JUST FOUND THE AIRPLANE IN MY HARD DRIVE === duoi is now known as duoi_afk === duoi_afk is now known as duoi [06:52] Why does the rhythmbox ddap share default to listening on an ipv6 port? [06:53] It is creating usage problems confsidering my filters are set for inet only at present [06:53] Is there a way to change it to listen on an ip4 port? [06:55] Also the empathy bonjour. [07:00] there are no ipv6 interfaces up and it still binds to tcp6 [07:02] hey [07:02] hey! [07:02] hey ya ya ya === duoi is now known as duoi_afk [10:10] hi, what is the default username/pw for the live session? screensaver locked me out during installation wizard :/ === duoi_afk is now known as duoi === duoi is now known as duoi_afk [19:09] Hi there, does anyone knows a good GUI for GPG in Lubuntu? Kgpg asks me for several of related files I dont want to install. (Sorry if the question is irrelevant :-) I'm new in town :-) ) [19:09] !search gpg [19:09] Found: gpg, keyserver, torgpg, torsasl, tor-gpg, gpgerr, ppagpg, pgp, tor-sasl, badsig and 1 more, see http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=gpg [19:10] oh that's not what i wanted silly [19:10] nch: seahourse isn't so bad. [19:10] seahorse* [19:12] Thank you for the suggestion Unit193, I'll give it a try. ;) [19:32] what do you type to upgrade 13.04 to 13.10? [19:33] You can either use the upgrade-manager, or do-release-upgrade [19:34] yup.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/368738/update-to-13-10-without-gui-access [19:34] i would rather fresh install.. [19:35] fresh install wasn't working properly, i wasted 5 dvds trying to fresh install [19:40] i usually waste 5+ hours trying to upgrade ;) [19:42] i can just upgrade then come back 5 hours later right? [19:43] FuuqUmiist: as i said, i just fresh install.. im not sure what you can do.. depends on network speed, etc [19:43] or do i have to enter and click things throughout the 5 hours? [19:44] Depends, sometimes it does ask questions as to if it should overwrite a file. [19:44] (Doesn't normally take 5hours for me at least, depends on connection and other factors.) [19:45] Unit193: you get in under an hour? [19:45] holstein: Don't think that fast. :P [19:45] Depends on the mirror too. [19:45] yeah.. thats true [19:45] i assume its always on my end where the bottleneck is [19:46] speedtest.net or cachefly, and see how much slower the archive is. [20:38] i think lubuntu froze when it restarted after the upgrade [20:45] omg, the upgrade didn't work [21:18] FuuqUmiist: upgrades can fail.. depends on many things, such as your network setup [21:18] regardless, i'll usually test a live CD anyways.. "dont work" is not enough information for me to propose what could have happened [21:18] typically, i'll try tty [21:18] !tty [21:18] To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution [21:19] to see if the system is there, and not reponding graphically, or whatever.. could be as simple as the graphics card not being supported in 13.10 [21:19] lubuntu wouldn't even boot [21:19] i would just be installing 14.04 at this point, however, since its so close to coming out.. again, just muy peronsal preference [21:20] FuuqUmiist: wont boot in what way? hardware failure? bad hard drive? grub not responding? noX? recovery console working? [21:21] it stalls at the lubuntu screen, or sometimes will just remain blank [21:21] (21:19:31) holstein: i would just be installing 14.04 at this point, however, since its so close to coming out.. again, just muy peronsal preference [21:21] +1 [21:22] FuuqUmiist: and you can tty? or no? and the recovery console? have you tried the vesa driver? or safe graphics mode? [21:22] actually i just finished reinstall 13.04 [21:22] 13.04 is EOL [21:22] i know, buts its the only dvd that works [21:23] thats not true here [21:23] you would have to ask a question to get support.. like "i burn DVD's like this and this happens" [21:23] saying they dont work, is a statement [21:23] i installed 13.10 and 14.04 lubuntu from DVD here [21:24] my the dvd drive is failing or something [21:24] FuuqUmiist: so, thats nothing to do with the iso or the product them [21:24] then* [21:25] but the upgrade didn't work too [21:25] FuuqUmiist: the DVD is *not* failing in that scenario, if that is true.. the optical drive is.. what do i do in that scenario? i'll take the drive to another machine and install, then put the drive back [21:25] FuuqUmiist: i prefer fresh installs over upgrades.. [21:27] you could be having any graphics issue, like the one i mentioned above, and you wouldnt know if support has been dropped from the kernel for your hardware [21:27] i think i'll jsut use 13.04 for this computer since the computer won't be using the internet much, and the other computers i'll just keep with windows [21:28] again, i would use 14.04 at this point [21:28] but, i'll just wait til you have a support question [21:28] yeah, but its not released, maybe i'll try it in the future when i have time [21:28] FuuqUmiist: it *is* available.. [21:30] ive probably had 5 successful 14.04 installs since you have been coming here about that machine [21:31] where is the iso [21:31] neither 13.04 nor 14.04 are officially supported.. at least 14.04 is scheduled for support, and it will get years of support [21:32] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/pending/ [21:32] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/beta-1/ [21:33] !14.04 [21:33] Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu. See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+1 [21:33] i shouldnt say there is no support for 14.04.. [21:34] it is updated daily, i think i'll just use the stable 13.03 since i know it installs and works [21:34] FuuqUmiist: 13.04* is not "stable".. its EOL [21:34] FuuqUmiist: its dead.. not supported any more.. its ended [21:36] as along as you can watch movies, listen to music, type up documents, it should be fine for now [21:36] you shouldnt do *anything* with it.. besides replace it with a supported operating system.. you shouldnt have it online at all.. but, you will probably be, fine.. [21:37] its just not fair, or accurate to consider it "stable" when its EOL [21:37] it probably won't be online much, i think they will use it mainly to watch movies and listen to music with, maybe typing up some documents [21:38] as long as you dont consider, or state that its stable in anyway.. or consider or state it as safe, or supported.. its EOL === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as Mohi [22:41] join ##kernel [23:42] how do you remove abiword without removing lubuntu-desktop [23:42] You don't, you let lubuntu-desktop go too. [23:44] that sucks [23:45] Why? [23:45] !meta [23:46] !metapackage [23:46] A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions. [23:47] so if i remove lubuntu-desktop what software will be removed? [23:49] the good thing about lxde is that there wasn't too much integration [23:51] Unit193 do you know how to make a folder shortcut on the panel? [23:52] If you remove lubuntu-deskop, you lost nothing. [23:52] oh ok [23:53] I tend to like desktop files telling pcmanfm to open them, but you can also just use a common link. === duoi_afk is now known as duoi