| [00:00] <valorie> the local buzz is that Microsoft will announce their new CEO once the superbowl brouhaha has settled | |
| [00:00] <valorie> next week | |
| [00:00] <ahoneybun> I mean I and now in a hard place because I don't have a product key as it seems it is in the bios | |
| [00:00] <ahoneybun> and a iso seems hard to get for just Win 8 | |
| [00:00] <valorie> !efi | |
| [00:00] <ubottu> UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | |
| [00:00] <valorie> that thing? | |
| [00:00] <ahoneybun> it has a BIOS emu | |
| [00:00] <ahoneybun> but yea it is efi | |
| [00:01] <valorie> evilness | |
| [00:01] <ahoneybun> had to use the nomodeset option in the boot to get it to run the installer | |
| [00:01] <ahoneybun> anyway brb | |
| [00:01] <valorie> the gpu seems to be flaking out on this computer, and I dread trying to find a new one without fighting that | |
| [00:01] <valorie> bleah | |
| [00:03] <ahoneybun> about 12 seconds to boot | |
| [00:03] <ahoneybun> to log screen | |
| [00:03] * mamarley 's computer (with UEFI and an SSD) boot about that fast. | |
| [00:04] * ahoneybun wonders if he used "nomodeset" in the kubuntu installer that it would work | |
| [00:04] <ahoneybun> like in the ubuntu installer | |
| [00:05] <mamarley> What kind of graphics card do you have? Does your UEFI support CSM (Compatibility Support Mode)? | |
| [00:05] <ahoneybun> it has a option to act like BIOS | |
| [00:05] <ahoneybun> I have 2 really one intel on the board and one nvidia | |
| [00:06] <mamarley> Some graphics drivers don't like booting if CSM is off. | |
| [00:06] <mamarley> The Nvidia blob does fine with it off on my Thinkpad T530. I do have Optimus disabled though. | |
| [00:06] <ahoneybun> mamarley, GeForce GT 750M | |
| [00:07] <ahoneybun> I did not install anything bumblebee or any non-free nvidia drivers | |
| [00:07] <ahoneybun> which I had to do last time I installed Ubuntu 13.10 on this machine | |
| [00:10] <ahoneybun> valorie, do you know the most amazing part of all this day so far? | |
| [00:11] <valorie> what's that, ahoneybun? | |
| [00:12] <ahoneybun> I plugged in a second monitor with hdmi and it just worked! | |
| [00:12] <valorie> NICE | |
| [00:12] <ahoneybun> that is epic | |
| [00:12] <ahoneybun> not going to work in every case but still nice when it works | |
| [00:13] <valorie> I still have to sleep and resume to get my display to work, which is extremely odd | |
| [00:13] <ahoneybun> I am going to continue to bug test the new alpha 2 in a vm though | |
| [00:13] <valorie> but I don't know if it's because of the flakey gpu or what | |
| [00:13] * jackyalcine thinks it's about time he tested alpha2 | |
| [00:13] <ahoneybun> it is prettystable for the most part have not really gone deep yet | |
| [00:14] <ahoneybun> reported one bug in the installer but that was just wording | |
| [00:14] <valorie> upgrade went fine to alpha one, but I haven't really used that laptop since upgrading it | |
| [00:14] <ahoneybun> muon discover seems to be a bit better | |
| [00:15] <jackyalcine> Now if opendesktop.org could look better | |
| [00:15] <jackyalcine> and work better | |
| [00:15] <jackyalcine> it could be the social hub for the F/OSS community | |
| [00:15] <jackyalcine> but I digress | |
| [00:17] <ahoneybun> hey lordievader | |
| [00:18] <ahoneybun> valorie, how long do we have for the translations to finish? | |
| [00:18] <valorie> jackyalcine: I prefer http://www.freedesktop.org/ | |
| [00:18] <valorie> opendesktop isn't open, isn't free software, actually | |
| [00:18] <ahoneybun> valorie, is it 1990? | |
| [00:18] <valorie> 1990? | |
| [00:19] <ahoneybun> that site | |
| [00:19] <valorie> not sure when they were created, but it is the same company who makes kde-look, kde-apps, gnome-look, etc. | |
| [00:20] <valorie> once Bodega gets going, we can start to leave that behind, I hope | |
| [00:20] <ahoneybun> do most apps install to the / or do some install to /home ? | |
| [00:21] <valorie> ahoneybun: I don't know what the schedule is; at some point we have to stop the translations and start creating the package, and moving the stuff to the website | |
| [00:21] <ahoneybun> that is the point how do we determine that date? | |
| [00:21] <valorie> I haven't a clue | |
| [00:21] <valorie> perhaps write to KDE-devel and ask? | |
| [00:21] <ahoneybun> perhaps | |
| [00:22] <jackyalcine> I didn't know that Bodega's the replacement | |
| [00:22] <valorie> not yet | |
| [00:23] <valorie> but it is being developed | |
| [00:23] <ahoneybun> kde-devel or kubuntu-dev? | |
| [00:23] <valorie> oops, kubuntu-devel | |
| [00:23] <valorie> kde-devel would be confused by that question, lol | |
| [00:23] <ahoneybun> lol yep | |
| [00:24] <jarkko_> is it possible that window manager grabs keyboard that it cant be used on full screen program? | |
| [00:26] * ahoneybun wonders now if the deadline follows the package upload/update freeze | |
| [00:28] <valorie> rather closely | |
| [00:28] <valorie> since we have to upload a package | |
| [00:28] <ahoneybun> as we would need to get the kubuntu-doc package in before then | |
| [00:28] <valorie> right | |
| [00:28] <valorie> as i was saying, we need to start documenting this stuff | |
| [00:29] <valorie> such as where to find deadlines, how to create and upload the package, arranging for translations, etc. | |
| [00:30] <ahoneybun> I have the deadline for 14.04 somewhere | |
| [00:30] <ahoneybun> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule | |
| [00:31] <valorie> like our ninjas have documented their workflow, we should do as well | |
| [00:32] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: http://test.kubuntu.co.uk/hello-world/ works well, but http://test.kubuntu.co.uk has a broken image | |
| [00:32] <ahoneybun> yea but where to start | |
| [00:33] <valorie> make a page on the wiki and I'll start | |
| [00:33] <valorie> you add in what you know, and sgclark can add, etc. | |
| [00:33] <ahoneybun> where is the one for the ninjas that I can model from> | |
| [00:33] <valorie> make a card in the trello so people know where to find it | |
| [00:34] <valorie> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas | |
| [00:34] <ahoneybun> something like DocsPeople? | |
| [00:34] <ahoneybun> as a name | |
| [00:35] <valorie> nice nitty-gritty page: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment | |
| [00:35] <valorie> hmmm | |
| [00:35] <valorie> people sounds more like a team listing | |
| [00:36] <valorie> how about DocWork ? | |
| [00:37] <ahoneybun> that would work | |
| [00:39] <ahoneybun> wow the wiki seems to be a bit off lol | |
| [00:39] <ahoneybun> got a huge python error when I try to log in | |
| [00:40] <valorie> hmmm | |
| [00:40] <valorie> https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-docs hasn't been used for awhile | |
| [00:40] <ahoneybun> not since the 13.10 package | |
| [00:41] <ahoneybun> still set for raring | |
| [00:41] <valorie> ah, I was just looking at the wrong place; no recent blueprints | |
| [00:41] <valorie> since we don't use the blueprints any more | |
| [00:41] <valorie> trello is better | |
| [00:41] <valorie> there is a Trusty package already | |
| [00:42] <ahoneybun> I just saw that | |
| [00:42] <valorie> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/kubuntu-docs | |
| [00:42] <valorie> so that will need to be replaced | |
| [00:42] <valorie> updated, whatever | |
| [00:42] <ahoneybun> but it has the same date as the 13.10 one | |
| [00:43] <valorie> right, probably identical content | |
| [00:43] <ahoneybun> yeaa | |
| [00:43] <valorie> that's always the starting point | |
| [00:43] * ahoneybun is installing bzr for later work on launchpad | |
| [00:44] <ahoneybun> why don't we have launchpad setup for bug reports? | |
| [00:45] <valorie> somewhere I have a doc I made when working on the old docs | |
| [00:45] <valorie> I'll email that to you | |
| [00:45] <ahoneybun> ok cool | |
| [00:45] <valorie> you can use what bits are useful and ditch the rest | |
| [00:45] * ahoneybun wants to take control of the kubuntu-docs page on lp | |
| [00:46] <valorie> I assume we don't use the bug tracker now because we stopped developing on launchpad | |
| [00:46] <valorie> but if you take control of it, perhaps you can change that | |
| [00:46] <valorie> I would talk to the ubuntu-docs folks about that | |
| [00:46] <ahoneybun> I mean apachelogger put a bug on our docs though the ubuntu one because we dont have it | |
| [00:46] <valorie> since we are part of that larger team | |
| [00:47] <valorie> I'm sure they know how to flip the switch | |
| [00:47] <valorie> almost pizza time here..... | |
| [00:47] <ahoneybun> and that is filled with old bug reports and since we restared the docs we should have a clean plate | |
| [00:47] <valorie> right | |
| [00:48] <valorie> again, if you are in charge, you can probably mark the old bugs as outdated or something | |
| [00:48] <ahoneybun> I would move the current ones that we have though over | |
| [00:48] <ahoneybun> well the old bugs are on the ubuntu side of it | |
| [00:48] <ahoneybun> not the kubuntu-docs page it self | |
| [00:48] <ahoneybun> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs <- old things | |
| [00:48] <ahoneybun> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-docs <- our own page | |
| [00:50] <valorie> ok, off to pizza | |
| [00:50] <valorie> later.... | |
| [00:50] <ahoneybun> later | |
| [03:00] <ScottK> 4.10.5 is accepted and building for saucy. | |
| [03:14] <ScottK> Quintasan: Accepted. | |
| [07:29] <valorie> I'm looking over old email and see one from d_ed about Ktp that was never answered -- did someone take over the https://launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde/+archive/daily-builds PPA? | |
| [07:53] <jackyalcine> that's a good question, I haven't noticed any updates from it | |
| [08:15] <valorie> he requested someone to take over the PPA | |
| [08:15] <valorie> I'll forward back to the list if no one answers here | |
| [09:54] <cortexA9> hello | |
| [09:54] <cortexA9> Riddell: | |
| [09:54] <cortexA9> :) | |
| [09:54] <cortexA9> there is a problem | |
| [09:55] <cortexA9> i have kubuntu trusty | |
| [09:55] <cortexA9> but on startup | |
| [09:55] <cortexA9> doesn't start correctly | |
| [09:56] <cortexA9> i must select an old kernel | |
| [09:58] <cortexA9> if i select | |
| [09:58] <cortexA9> kubuntu | |
| [09:58] <cortexA9> doesn't start correctly | |
| [11:55] <alvin> Riddels talk is going to start in 5 minutes | |
| [12:01] <Quintasan> ScottK: Thanks! | |
| [12:32] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all | |
| [12:33] <jarkko> does anyone know if there is a know problem that window manager can grab your keyboard? | |
| [12:33] <jarkko> in fullscreen program | |
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| [14:27] <akki2222> hi | |
| [14:28] <akki2222> i want to contribute in kde but when updating my xubuntu for kde development through debian repos it behaves abnormally | |
| [14:28] <akki2222> removed a lot of files including xubuntu desktop | |
| [14:29] <akki2222> which repos should i use for development? | |
| [14:33] <ghostcube> you should stay with the X(buntu) repos? not going to debian imo | |
| [14:33] <ghostcube> debian repos arent the same as ubuntu repos | |
| [14:36] <akki2222> i was reading the pdf n it said to update for kde build | |
| [15:10] <ghostcube> hmmm who did muon? can i ask something? in synpatic you can choose remove completely.. so with program settings files. in muon you cant any reason for this? | |
| [15:48] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: do you reffer to the footer? | |
| [16:29] <lordievader> Good afternoon. | |
| [16:40] <ahoneybun> hey lordievader | |
| [16:41] <lordievader> Hey ahoneybun, how are you doing? | |
| [16:42] <ahoneybun> good netflix is being silly right now but good | |
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| [17:00] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: ping | |
| [17:00] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: when's the KDE Dinner? | |
| [17:03] <shadeslayer_> nvm | |
| [21:45] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: the header, actually | |
| [21:45] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: how come? | |
| [21:46] <valorie> good question | |
| [21:46] <valorie> I didn't look at the html | |
| [21:46] <valorie> sec | |
| [21:52] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: I mean I don't understand what you see it's wrong? | |
| [21:52] <valorie> perhaps I can take a screenshot | |
| [21:53] <valorie> hmmm, today I see the headers | |
| [21:53] <valorie> header | |
| [21:53] <valorie> perhaps it was just being stubborn yesterday | |
| [21:54] <valorie> today it appears everything is not only working, but it's lovely as well | |
| [22:15] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1267977] Extreme jerkiness with kwin compositing on Nvidia binary driver after upgrading to 4.11.5. @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1267977 (by Michael Marley) | |
| [22:42] <soee> ok just sent £4,00 GBP donation :) who first than can buy beer :) | |
| [22:44] <valorie> heh | |