| [00:30] <yofel> full disk encryption passed on amd64. I had some issues with shutdown, but nothing critical for alpha1 | |
| [00:31] * yofel is off to bed | |
| [00:32] <ScottK> yofel: Thanks. | |
| [00:32] <Tygart> ScottK: I wish I knew more about how to test I am running 13.04 64 bit "AMD Turion 64 X2". The only issue I have is Plasma desktop keeps crashing. | |
| [00:33] <Tygart> more info here http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?61269-Kubuntu-%2813-04%29-%E2%80%9CPlasma-Desktop%E2%80%9D-keeps-crashing | |
| [00:50] <ScottK> That backtrace is worth filing as a bug in bugs.kde.org. | |
| [01:17] <Tygart> ScottK: Thanks Scott I sent it in. | |
| [08:16] <shadeslayer> Quintasan_: pong | |
| [08:16] <shadeslayer> ScottK: I already talked to upstream, they told me they could do a dirty port of qtgstreamer | |
| [08:17] <shadeslayer> gkiagia on #kde-telepathy has more info | |
| [08:31] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Could you work out getting something going? Stuff is blocked from migrating from proposed due to our packages not being ported. | |
| [08:38] <Noskcaj> anyone know whats causing bug 1066223 | |
| [08:38] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1066223 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "kde ubiquity detects Sydney timezone but says Adelaide" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066223 | |
| [08:45] <Noskcaj> the amd64 kubuntu alpha image freezes when you hit next with install mp3 selected | |
| [08:45] <Noskcaj> can someone confirm? | |
| [08:54] <shadeslayer> erk | |
| [08:55] <Noskcaj> shadeslayer, why you go "erk" ? | |
| [08:55] <shadeslayer> Noskcaj: by hang do you mean it shows the spinning icon | |
| [08:56] <shadeslayer> and erk because it's blocking stuff | |
| [08:56] <shadeslayer> it = gst | |
| [08:56] <Noskcaj> shadeslayer, yes, and understandable | |
| [08:56] <shadeslayer> ScottK: I'll email George this evening | |
| [08:58] <shadeslayer> Noskcaj: sec | |
| [08:58] <shadeslayer> Noskcaj: something like bug 1085991 | |
| [08:58] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1085991 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity stuck at "Preparing to install Kubuntu"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1085991 | |
| [08:59] <Noskcaj> shadeslayer, sounds similar but it only happens when mp3 is selected | |
| [08:59] <shadeslayer> oh | |
| [08:59] <shadeslayer> iirc I had mp3 stuff ticked as well | |
| [09:00] <shadeslayer> Noskcaj: could you run apport-collect 1085991 when trying to install and it hangs? ( run it after it hangs ) | |
| [09:00] <Noskcaj> what do you mean? | |
| [09:00] <shadeslayer> xnox: ^ possibly similar bug | |
| [09:01] <shadeslayer> Noskcaj: it'll attach logs to the bug report | |
| [09:01] <shadeslayer> so that we can figure out what's wrong | |
| [09:01] <Noskcaj> ok, i will after this testcase(kubuntu amd64 manual) | |
| [09:01] <shadeslayer> cool | |
| [09:04] <Noskcaj> i may have to wait till tomorrow as i have to be finished by 8:30pm AEDST (+11utc) | |
| [09:05] <Noskcaj> shadeslayer, so do i let it get to the "freeze" or run apport-collect before then | |
| [09:05] <Noskcaj> and does this have to be from the live desktop? | |
| [09:11] <Noskcaj> shadeslayer, are you sure that is the same bug? | |
| [09:11] <shadeslayer> Noskcaj: almost, seems to exhibit the same symptoms | |
| [09:12] <Noskcaj> ok, i am at the freeze, what do i do? | |
| [09:12] <shadeslayer> press alt+F1 | |
| [09:12] <shadeslayer> erm | |
| [09:12] <shadeslayer> alt+F2 | |
| [09:12] <shadeslayer> type konsole | |
| [09:12] <shadeslayer> then run apport-collect 1085991 | |
| [09:13] <Noskcaj> nothing happens. do i need to be in a live desktop? | |
| [09:13] <shadeslayer> didn't konsole open? | |
| [09:13] <Noskcaj> alt+f2 didn't | |
| [09:13] <shadeslayer> oh | |
| [09:13] <shadeslayer> that's weird | |
| [09:13] <shadeslayer> Noskcaj: are you connected to the network? | |
| [09:13] <shadeslayer> s/the/a | |
| [09:13] <Noskcaj> yeah, i'm in Vbox though | |
| [09:13] <shadeslayer> ah no issue | |
| [09:14] <shadeslayer> can you switch to a tty? ( Ctrl + Alt + F1 ) | |
| [09:14] <shadeslayer> then run apport-collect 1085991 | |
| [09:14] <Noskcaj> one sec, i was about to change to the live desktop | |
| [09:15] <shadeslayer> okay | |
| [09:19] <Noskcaj> shadeslayer, acidently made that happen on my own pc and had to restart | |
| [09:19] <shadeslayer> haha :D | |
| [09:20] <shadeslayer> Noskcaj: pro tip, kill an application using ctrl+alt+esc and click on offending app | |
| [09:20] <shadeslayer> only kills app, no need to restart | |
| [09:21] <Noskcaj> if pnly i knew sooner | |
| [09:21] <shadeslayer> okay, does anyone know where the 12.10 comes from in ubiquity? | |
| [09:22] <xnox> shadeslayer: .disk_info file?! | |
| [09:22] <shadeslayer> hmmm | |
| [09:22] <shadeslayer> that's odd then | |
| [09:22] <Noskcaj> i will ask that question in -quality incase someone knows more | |
| [09:23] <xnox> shadeslayer: well it's .disk/info | |
| [09:23] <shadeslayer> xnox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+bug/1086034 | |
| [09:23] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1086034 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity slideshows still refer to 12.10" [Medium,New] | |
| [09:24] <shadeslayer> oh that's the *slideshow* | |
| [09:24] <shadeslayer> nvm | |
| [09:28] <xnox> shadeslayer: slideshows are static & need reuploading. | |
| [09:28] <shadeslayer> right | |
| [09:29] <Noskcaj> shadeslayer, it happend again, i had to restart | |
| [09:29] <shadeslayer> oh hmm | |
| [09:29] <Noskcaj> i am using xubuntu if that changes anything | |
| [09:29] <shadeslayer> don't think so | |
| [09:32] <Noskcaj> i have to go, will be back on at 6:00am AEDST | |
| [11:18] <Quintasan_> shadeslayer: kio-mtp can't copy directories now | |
| [11:18] <Quintasan_> it can't handle them here T_T | |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | |
| [11:18] <shadeslayer> heh | |
| [11:19] <shadeslayer> I'm just the packager, and for some reason it doesn't want to work with png | |
| [11:19] <shadeslayer> *png files | |
| [11:19] <shadeslayer> file a bug ? :P | |
| [11:19] <Quintasan> I nominate you as the link between upstream and us | |
| [11:19] <Quintasan> you do it :P | |
| [11:19] <shadeslayer> durrr | |
| [11:20] <Quintasan> Well, I have to go to buy a present for my friend, if you don't file it now then I will do it later anyways | |
| [11:20] <Riddell> proofreaders: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RaringRingtail/Alpha2/Kubuntu | |
| [11:21] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: I'll file it later | |
| [11:21] <shadeslayer> also uploaded a quantal package in experimental | |
| [11:21] <Quintasan> Riddell: No glaring mistakes there | |
| [11:21] <Quintasan> Riddell: Will read it in detail is bus | |
| [11:23] * smartboyhw goes in to the ISO tracker to report a success testcase for Kubuntu Alpha 1 | |
| [11:25] <Riddell> Quintasan: feel free to think of things to add/improve too | |
| [11:25] <Riddell> smartboyhw: great thanks | |
| [11:36] <soee> shadeslayer, 4.10 beta2 for quantal? | |
| [11:36] * shadeslayer looks at Riddell | |
| [11:36] <Riddell> needs done for raring first | |
| [11:36] <Riddell> then yes, I'd like to backport it | |
| [11:37] <Riddell> but I'm on alpha 1 this morning | |
| [11:39] <shadeslayer> what needs doing for Beta 2? | |
| [11:40] <yofel_> there are a few missing packages at least | |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | |
| [11:40] * shadeslayer looks | |
| [11:41] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yofel pointed out gwenview, cantor, dragon and perlkde as missing so I think they'll have patched that need refreshed/removed | |
| [11:42] <shadeslayer> aha | |
| [11:42] <Riddell> and of course all the yellow and red here http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu-ppa-build-status.html | |
| [11:42] <shadeslayer> yeah was looking at that | |
| [11:46] <yofel> Riddell: wrong # - I'll take care of the crash fix | |
| [11:47] <smartboyhw> Riddell, you want me to run the "Non-English Live session & Installation; Full Network Support" thing? | |
| [11:47] <smartboyhw> That testcase | |
| [11:47] <Riddell> smartboyhw: that would be cool | |
| [12:07] <smartboyhw> Ha the string not translated in the slideshow for Chinese (Traditional) is actually the sentence "Thank you for choosing Kubuntu 12.10" LOL. | |
| [12:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all | |
| [12:10] <Riddell> our images are oversized | |
| [12:10] <Riddell> based on a round SI GB limit of 1000000000 bytes | |
| [12:11] <Riddell> can I bump it up to a binary GiB limit of 1 073 741 824 bytes? | |
| [12:22] <shadeslayer> dat unit | |
| [12:23] <shadeslayer> Riddell: you mean from 8.881784197e-7 peta bytes to 9.53674316406e-7 peta bytes? | |
| [12:25] <Riddell> um | |
| [12:25] <shadeslayer> hehehe | |
| [12:25] <Riddell> your mind has a weird way of counting, what a geek | |
| [12:35] <soee> guys the reason that other distros like OpenSuse have beta version of KDE available as soon as they show up is because of bigger community/developers working on it or because they don't preparing it for upcoming releases? | |
| [12:40] <shadeslayer> not sure, but I've never seen them contributing armhf fixes and what not | |
| [12:40] <shadeslayer> so maybe they just target x86* ? | |
| [12:41] <smartboyhw> Riddell, Non-English testcase for amd64 completed, so I think you can mark the amd64 ISO ready now | |
| [12:41] <shadeslayer> mmm .. when did we upload beta 2 this time? | |
| [12:41] <shadeslayer> soee: I'm working on getting b2 out today | |
| [12:41] <shadeslayer> as long as someone tests it on raring | |
| [12:42] * smartboyhw doesn't understand why VirtualBox shows "Aborted" when he shuts down Kubuntu in the normal way | |
| [12:42] <soee> later at home i can test it with VB | |
| [12:43] <shadeslayer> cool | |
| [12:43] <soee> on my machine at home i have quantal so i can test quantal also | |
| [12:43] <soee> x64 | |
| [12:43] <shadeslayer> well | |
| [12:43] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I'd like to upload quantal today after being done with raring | |
| [12:44] * shadeslayer wonders if the automation script works with remote signatures and what not | |
| [12:47] <shadeslayer> lolwat | |
| [12:47] <shadeslayer> gwenview built just fine here | |
| [12:49] <shadeslayer> so very odd | |
| [12:50] * smartboyhw wonders will anyone do the amd64+mac images | |
| [12:50] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: ? | |
| [12:50] <shadeslayer> I tested them last night | |
| [12:51] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, well aren't it supposed to have all the testcases completed? | |
| [12:51] <shadeslayer> uh, usually that doesn't happen :) | |
| [12:51] * smartboyhw thought that is standard procedure (at least for Ubuntu Desktop) | |
| [12:51] <shadeslayer> it probably is, but we don't have as many resources as them | |
| [12:52] <smartboyhw> ooh | |
| [12:52] <smartboyhw> alright | |
| [12:52] <shadeslayer> so if someone donates a spare macbook pro to me, I could probably do the testing | |
| [12:52] <shadeslayer> but don't want to do it on my work machine | |
| [12:54] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, you don't necessary need to have a MacBook PRO right?;P Get a Macbook Air, or even a Mac mini ... | |
| [12:54] <shadeslayer> sure | |
| [12:54] <shadeslayer> but I ain't buying more apple hardware | |
| [12:54] <shadeslayer> I'm sick of this MBP as it is | |
| [12:57] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: where are my mallit packages?!! | |
| [12:59] <shadeslayer> agateau: your fix doesn't build on i386 :( | |
| [12:59] <shadeslayer> oh fun | |
| [12:59] <agateau> shadeslayer: really? :( do you have a build log? | |
| [12:59] <shadeslayer> libjpeg-turbo8-dev:i386: /usr/include/jpeglib.h | |
| [13:00] <shadeslayer> agateau: are you in the kubuntu-ninjas team? | |
| [13:00] <shadeslayer> agateau: https://i125024006.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/125024006/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-i386.gwenview_4:4.9.90-0ubuntu1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz?token=0b0efc87cb05a0aa521ffdf4da075708 | |
| [13:00] <shadeslayer> if not : http://paste.kde.org/620870/ | |
| [13:00] <agateau> shadeslayer: I guess I am not: I get a "No Such Resource" msg | |
| [13:01] <agateau> shadeslayer: thanks | |
| [13:01] <shadeslayer> you're using chrom{e.ium} | |
| [13:01] <shadeslayer> which has a weird bug | |
| [13:02] <agateau> shadeslayer: no | |
| [13:02] <shadeslayer> oh .. which browser? | |
| [13:02] <agateau> shadeslayer: link opened in konqueror | |
| [13:02] <shadeslayer> I see ... | |
| [13:02] <shadeslayer> guess konqueror has the same bug | |
| [13:03] <shadeslayer> hmm ... jconfig is there : /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/jconfig.h | |
| [13:04] <agateau> shadeslayer: and what is ${CMAKE_LIBRARY_ARCHITECTURE} on i386? | |
| [13:04] <shadeslayer> sec | |
| [13:04] <shadeslayer> obj-i686-linux-gnu/CMakeFiles/2.8.10.1/CMakeCXXCompiler.cmake: set(CMAKE_LIBRARY_ARCHITECTURE "i386-linux-gnu") | |
| [13:05] <agateau> so it should work | |
| [13:05] <agateau> or I do not interpret find_file doc correctly | |
| [13:07] <yofel> shadeslayer: where do you get "libjpeg-turbo8-dev:i386: /usr/include/jpeglib.h" ? | |
| [13:07] <yofel> that is /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/jconfig.h here | |
| [13:07] <yofel> er, nvm | |
| [13:07] <shadeslayer> root@server:~/gwenview-4.9.90# dpkg -S jpeglib.h | |
| [13:07] <shadeslayer> libjpeg-turbo8-dev:i386: /usr/include/jpeglib.h | |
| [13:07] <shadeslayer> :) | |
| [13:07] <yofel> I need more coffee | |
| [13:07] <yofel> yeah, jpeglib.h is there, jconfig.h isn#t | |
| [13:08] <shadeslayer> aye | |
| [13:09] <agateau> can you spot what is wrong in this then: find_file(JCONFIG_H jconfig.h PATHS "${JPEG_INCLUDE_DIR}" PATH_SUFFIXES "${CMAKE_LIBRARY_ARCHITECTURE}")? | |
| [13:09] * yofel looks up what PATH_SUFFIXES does | |
| [13:10] <yofel> hm... that should work o.O | |
| [13:12] <agateau> especially since it works on amd64 (just checked) | |
| [13:13] * agateau is puzzled | |
| [13:14] <shadeslayer> eh wat | |
| [13:14] <shadeslayer> # libjpeg-turbo keeps JPEG_LIB_VERSION in jconfig.h, not jpeglib.h :/ | |
| [13:14] <shadeslayer> find_file(JCONFIG_H jconfig.h | |
| [13:14] <shadeslayer> PATHS "${JPEG_INCLUDE_DIR}" | |
| [13:14] <shadeslayer> PATH_SUFFIXES "x86_64-linux-gnu" | |
| [13:14] <shadeslayer> ) | |
| [13:14] <agateau> shadeslayer: ah, you don't have the very latest code | |
| [13:14] <shadeslayer> but ... I thought your released it with 4.9.90? | |
| [13:14] <agateau> no, committed that shortly after the tag iirc | |
| [13:14] * agateau checks | |
| [13:14] <shadeslayer> ahhh okay | |
| [13:15] <shadeslayer> makes sense | |
| [13:15] <agateau> seems like beta are not tagged :( | |
| [13:15] <agateau> weird | |
| [13:16] <shadeslayer> heh | |
| [13:16] <shadeslayer> anywho, compiling with https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdegraphics/gwenview/repository/revisions/67726648531755a4dab131a1926dd17cc8f969d2/diff | |
| [13:17] <shadeslayer> lets see | |
| [13:17] <agateau> There is a v4.9.80 tag, but no v4.9.90 | |
| [13:17] <shadeslayer> someone forgtot to push tags then | |
| [13:17] <shadeslayer> \o/ | |
| [13:18] <agateau> where is tsdgeos when one needs him :) | |
| [13:23] <ScottK> Riddell: I assume we're not releasing amd64+mac and it should be removed from the tracker? | |
| [13:23] <shadeslayer> so I tested it for nothing? | |
| [13:24] <shadeslayer> :( | |
| [13:24] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, heh I am correct for a bit now:P | |
| [13:24] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: indeed :) | |
| [13:25] <shadeslayer> okay, so only perlkde left | |
| [13:25] <ScottK> shadeslayer: There's no install testing of the current image. | |
| [13:26] <shadeslayer> I install tested the ISO before you respun it :P | |
| [13:26] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^ ? | |
| [13:26] * ScottK passess the buck. | |
| [13:26] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, LOL | |
| [13:27] <shadeslayer> ;) | |
| [13:35] <shadeslayer> all missing packages uploaded | |
| [13:36] * shadeslayer looks at status page | |
| [13:36] <Riddell> ScottK: it could go either way really | |
| [13:37] <Riddell> mm live only tested | |
| [13:37] <Riddell> I think it needs at least one install | |
| [13:42] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I installed it a couple of days ago | |
| [13:42] <shadeslayer> so unless something changed dramatically, it was fine | |
| [13:42] <shadeslayer> your discretion really | |
| [13:49] <ScottK> Riddell: shadeslayer has a fair point. There's no evidence from the other images of issues due to the respinn. | |
| [13:49] <ScottK> s/respinn/respin/ | |
| [13:49] <kubotu> ScottK meant: "Riddell: shadeslayer has a fair point. There's no evidence from the other images of issues due to the respin." | |
| [13:52] <Riddell> "I've been basically running Kubuntu 12.04 for the last several months and am finding it without a doubt one of the best distros I've ever run" I like my google "Kubuntu" alert it makes me smile | |
| [13:52] <shadeslayer> :D | |
| [13:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: like I said before, we should make an announcement for business card designs on G+ | |
| [13:53] <Riddell> shadeslayer: go ahead | |
| [13:55] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can't access G+ | |
| [13:55] <shadeslayer> it says it's down | |
| [13:55] <Riddell> you broke google! | |
| [13:56] <Riddell> do you know how much trouble you'll get in for doing that? | |
| [13:56] <smartboyhw> LOL | |
| [13:56] <shadeslayer> yay | |
| [13:56] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, stop saying yay | |
| [13:57] <smartboyhw> That is clearly not yay | |
| [13:57] <shadeslayer> okay :( | |
| [13:57] <soee> :) | |
| [14:02] <shadeslayer> Riddell: "The Kubuntu team is looking for awesome buisness card designs! Show us your designs and it might become the official buisness card for the Kubuntu team !" | |
| [14:02] <shadeslayer> sound good enough? | |
| [14:02] <shadeslayer> *business | |
| [14:03] <soee> shadeslayer, business card ? | |
| [14:03] <shadeslayer> yus | |
| [14:03] <BluesKaj> ok what's the pay :) ? | |
| [14:03] <shadeslayer> lol | |
| [14:04] <soee> shadeslayer, what it shoudl contain ? | |
| [14:04] <shadeslayer> maybe Riddell has a spare Kubuntu polo tee left over he can giveaway for the design that wins? | |
| [14:05] <Riddell> I'm all out | |
| === valorie_ is now known as valorie | |
| [14:06] <BluesKaj> heh, they don't make them large enough for guys like me, 3XLT would be minimum | |
| [14:06] <Riddell> but I did give two to some people at copenhagen that i've not got back | |
| [14:06] <Riddell> hint.. Quintasan | |
| [14:07] <BluesKaj> however I did find one from the cranky geeks that fit | |
| === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw | |
| === shadeslayer_ is now known as Guest80560 | |
| === Guest80560 is now known as shadeslayer_ | |
| === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ | |
| [14:18] <shadeslayer> mmm | |
| [14:23] <shadeslayer> oh hah | |
| [14:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://i.imgur.com/lIeKw.png | |
| [14:24] <shadeslayer> those look neat tbh | |
| [14:25] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well they've release version specific | |
| [14:25] <Riddell> and don't have space for contact details | |
| [14:25] <shadeslayer> true | |
| [14:25] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1087259] update to 4.8.4 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1087259 (by André Stein) | |
| [14:25] <shadeslayer> but hey, we're getting replies :P | |
| [14:25] <Riddell> where? | |
| [14:25] <shadeslayer> G+ | |
| [14:26] <Riddell> nice | |
| [14:29] <soee> shadeslayer, ill ask friend of mine to prepare one project also :) | |
| [14:30] <shadeslayer> cool! | |
| [14:31] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: I'm doing your work now :P | |
| [14:31] <shadeslayer> Riddell: could you take over marble, I've gtg | |
| [14:32] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ok | |
| [14:32] <soee> shadeslayer, we are talking about kubuntu project only ? | |
| [14:36] <shadeslayer> soee: yes | |
| [14:37] <shadeslayer> though if they want, they could do it for the other community projects as well | |
| [14:37] <soee> where can i find link for kubuntu logo ? | |
| [14:39] <Riddell> KubuntuArtwork on wiki | |
| [14:43] <soee> ok, thank you Riddell | |
| [14:49] <Quintasan> Riddell: Well I'll be sending one of mine to Darkwing | |
| [14:49] <Riddell> Quintasan: oh cool | |
| [14:49] <Riddell> shadeslayer: did you get two at copenhagen? | |
| [14:49] <Riddell> I'm sure someone else got two | |
| [14:55] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yes, but I returned mine | |
| [14:56] <shadeslayer> remember when I came at night to your room to return one of them? | |
| [14:56] <Riddell> mm right | |
| [14:56] <Riddell> I guess we're all out then | |
| [14:58] <ScottK> Riddell: I did some edits on our announcement on the wiki. Please make check you're OK with them. | |
| [14:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell: "It could be Corel CDR too, or only SVG and PDF?" | |
| [14:59] <ScottK> The global menu bug turned out to be a problem in quantal too and the 12.10 in the slideshow is trivium. So I removed them. | |
| [14:59] <shadeslayer> I guess SVG only | |
| [14:59] * ScottK has more than one. | |
| [14:59] * smartboyhw wonders will anybody test the amd64+mac image, the only one not ready:P | |
| [14:59] <ScottK> smartboyhw: We aren't going to release it. | |
| [14:59] <smartboyhw> ScottK, yo:D | |
| [14:59] <Riddell> oh marble joins the ranks of projects that don't keep ABI stability http://paste.kde.org/620954/ | |
| [15:01] <shadeslayer> mmm | |
| [15:01] <Riddell> ScottK: lovely | |
| [15:04] <shadeslayer> ok, where was I .. | |
| [15:04] <Riddell> shadeslayer: gtg? | |
| [15:04] <shadeslayer> ah yes | |
| [15:04] <shadeslayer> nah, back from what I had to do | |
| [15:05] <shadeslayer> ah yes, loooking at status page | |
| [15:06] <ScottK> Riddell: Do you have the kubuntu.org announement queued up? | |
| [15:07] <shadeslayer> libkdcraw has new symbols? | |
| [15:07] <Riddell> ScottK: I don't but I can put up a sentence or two now | |
| [15:07] <ScottK> Great. | |
| [15:08] <ScottK> shadeslayer: They broke API from 4.9 -> 4.10. | |
| [15:08] <shadeslayer> mmm | |
| [15:09] <ScottK> Which is why Kamoso and Kphotoalbum are currently broken. | |
| [15:11] <Riddell> https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/13.04-alpha1 for those who can see it | |
| [15:11] <Riddell> it just says "<a href="https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RaringRingtail/Alpha1/Kubuntu">Alpha 1 of our 13.04 development version</a> is available for download and testing. It comes with the latest testing release of KDE's Plasma desktop and applications. | |
| [15:11] <Riddell> " | |
| [15:12] <shadeslayer> fun | |
| [15:13] <ScottK> No photos with kayaks and stickers on your head? | |
| [15:14] <Riddell> ach I've not done that for years | |
| [15:14] <Riddell> but I would like to do a blog post today with more photos from copenhagen | |
| [15:16] * Riddell goes for a walk back shortly | |
| [15:19] * ScottK is ready to publish on kubuntu.org | |
| [15:21] <shadeslayer> ScottK: any ideas what we decided wrt ffmpeg stuff and nepomuk? | |
| [15:21] <shadeslayer> because I can't find a lib to satisfy that depends | |
| [15:22] <ScottK> I think we decided to disable it until we were sure it only needed ffmpeg stuff we are allowed to ship on an image. | |
| [15:22] <shadeslayer> hmm | |
| [15:23] <yofel> looking at neon, check if you can ship libavutil51, libavformat53 and libavcodec53 | |
| [15:24] <shadeslayer> okay, all 3 are in main | |
| [15:25] <shadeslayer> so I guess they're OK to ship on the ISO? | |
| [15:25] <ScottK> shadeslayer: No. | |
| [15:25] <shadeslayer> oh? | |
| [15:25] <ScottK> Let me check. | |
| [15:25] <ScottK> You have to look in the seeds | |
| [15:25] <shadeslayer> oh, if they're blacklisted or not? | |
| [15:26] * vHanda is over here if you have any questions | |
| [15:26] <ScottK> "libavcodec cannot be shipped on CDs (c.f. Ubuntu technical board resolution 2007-01-02)." | |
| [15:26] <ScottK> So avutils and avformat are OK. | |
| [15:27] <shadeslayer> ah herp derp | |
| [15:27] <ScottK> Thanks vHanda. We're (I think) mostly wrapped up in Ubuntu policy re patents and what we're allowed to ship or not on an image. | |
| [15:27] <ScottK> You can ask the user to install it later and dlopen it. That's allowed. | |
| [15:28] <shadeslayer> ah | |
| [15:30] <vHanda> shadeslayer: what did I what? | |
| [15:30] <shadeslayer> huh? | |
| [15:30] <vHanda> "Rohan: ping. what did you install for ffmpeg headers?" | |
| [15:30] <shadeslayer> ah nvm | |
| [15:30] <shadeslayer> found the right set of dev headers | |
| [15:30] <vHanda> okay | |
| [15:30] <shadeslayer> I've removed the libavcode-dev | |
| [15:31] <shadeslayer> and it still says it found the ffmpeg stuff, so just need to check what it'll depend on | |
| [15:31] <shadeslayer> *I've removed the libavcodec-dev build dep | |
| [15:33] <shadeslayer> oh drat, something still pulls it in | |
| [15:34] <shadeslayer> ScottK: can we have the ffmpeg extractor libs in a separate package? | |
| [15:34] <shadeslayer> and then ask the user to install that | |
| [15:34] <shadeslayer> vHanda: ^ | |
| [15:35] <vHanda> I ask the user? | |
| [15:35] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/621014/ < these 2 in a separate file | |
| [15:35] <vHanda> you mean separate package | |
| [15:35] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Look at what we do for Konqueror and flash. IIRC it's a distro patch. | |
| [15:35] <vHanda> that works :) | |
| [15:36] <shadeslayer> vHanda: will there be any adverse affect if we compile with ffmpeg stuff and split out those libs and ask the user to install them through some sort of dialog? | |
| [15:36] <vHanda> nope | |
| [15:36] <shadeslayer> ScottK: looking | |
| [15:36] <shadeslayer> okay | |
| [15:39] <shadeslayer> ScottK: the DLRestrictions patch? | |
| [15:39] <ScottK> Sounds vaguely right. | |
| [15:39] <shadeslayer> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs/view/head:/debian/patches/add_dlrestrictions_support.diff | |
| [15:39] <ScottK> JontheEchidna would know about it, IIRC. | |
| [15:39] <shadeslayer> okay | |
| [15:43] <shadeslayer> I'm still contemplating if we can just ship another package and prompt the user to install that | |
| [15:45] <ScottK> I'd say just disable it for now and finish 4.9.90. | |
| [15:45] <shadeslayer> well it's disabled ;) | |
| [15:46] <ScottK> Excellent. | |
| [15:46] <ScottK> Can we start uploading 4.9.90 now? | |
| [15:46] <shadeslayer> uhhh | |
| [15:46] <shadeslayer> what about libkdcraw and libkdegames? | |
| [15:46] <shadeslayer> and marble | |
| [15:47] <shadeslayer> those 3 are the only things left afaictl | |
| [15:47] <ScottK> Right, but it takes a while to get stuff built. | |
| [15:48] <shadeslayer> and kmahjongg is still ftbfs | |
| [15:48] <ScottK> May as well upload libs and then meta. | |
| [15:48] <ScottK> I'm putting a block in place so none of it will migrate from raring-proposed before we are ready. | |
| [15:48] <shadeslayer> okay | |
| [15:48] <shadeslayer> sounds good | |
| [15:48] <Riddell> kmahjongg is proving fiddly | |
| [15:49] * shadeslayer is having a look at that | |
| [15:49] <ScottK> Riddell: How about we start on uploading 4.9.90 then. | |
| [15:51] <Riddell> ScottK: yeah can do, although I think I'll keep going through and fixing the issues in ninjas | |
| [15:51] <ScottK> I was mostly thinking about getting kde4libs built on all archs. | |
| [15:51] <shadeslayer> ehwat | |
| [15:51] <shadeslayer> Riddell: it builds fine here | |
| [15:51] <shadeslayer> weird | |
| [15:52] <Riddell> shadeslayer: libkmahjongglib4 installs? | |
| [15:53] <shadeslayer> afaictl yes | |
| [15:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/621026 | |
| [15:53] <soee> ok im at home if you want me something to test just shoot | |
| [15:55] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I've hit rebuild on i386, lets see | |
| [15:55] <shadeslayer> maybe it was a temporary issue | |
| [15:55] <Riddell> libkmahjongglib4 : Depends: kdegames-mahjongg-data (= 4:4.9.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.04~ppa1) but 4:4.9.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.04~ppa2 is to be installed | |
| [15:56] <Riddell> shadeslayer: no I guess I missed something there | |
| [15:56] <shadeslayer> possibly | |
| [16:02] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: didja find the issue? | |
| [16:03] <shadeslayer> you want to dep on kmahjongg-data instead of kdegames-kmahjongg-data | |
| [16:07] <shadeslayer> but then what's kdegames-kmahjongg-data | |
| [16:07] <shadeslayer> hmm | |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Raring Alpha 1 Released | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu-ppa-build-status.html | |
| [16:10] <ScottK> Can someone seed Kubuntu torrents? | |
| [16:10] <shadeslayer> sure | |
| [16:11] <shadeslayer> okay, my torrent manager went down I think :P | |
| [16:14] <smartboyhw> LOL | |
| [16:14] <smartboyhw> bye | |
| [16:20] <shadeslayer> okay, it's up, should work | |
| [16:21] <shadeslayer> ScottK: I assumed there are seeds for every release | |
| [16:21] <shadeslayer> as in, seeds from Canonical | |
| [16:21] <ScottK> Yes, but there's a problem right now. | |
| [16:21] <shadeslayer> oh okay | |
| [16:23] <shadeslayer> I had to drop the older 12.04 images to make space :P | |
| [16:44] <shadeslayer> afiestas: pingly | |
| [16:44] <afiestas> shadeslayer: half pong | |
| [16:45] <shadeslayer> heh okay | |
| [16:45] <shadeslayer> afiestas: there's code to handle backlight hotkeys and sound hot keys in KDE right? do you know if there's code to handle keyboard brightness? | |
| [16:46] <afiestas> there is a patch by mzanetti | |
| [16:46] <shadeslayer> do you know where it is? | |
| [16:47] <shadeslayer> ( I happen to have XF86KbdBrightnessDown and XF86KbdBrightnessUp keys, could probably test it ) | |
| [16:47] <soee> puff torrent downlad will take ~ 1,5 day :) | |
| [16:47] <shadeslayer> soee: is it just your connection? | |
| [16:48] <soee> 1 seed only | |
| [16:48] <shadeslayer> that would be me | |
| [16:48] <shadeslayer> soee: zsync it? | |
| [16:48] <soee> zsync ? | |
| [16:48] <shadeslayer> !zsync | |
| [16:48] <ubottu> Use zsync to update your Ubuntu CD image without needing to download the parts that didn't change. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage | |
| [16:49] <soee> never heard of it :D | |
| [16:49] <ScottK> agateau: Who was the guy that took over p-w-menubar? Need help figuring out Bug 1086868 | |
| [16:49] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1086868 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "No global menu in Plasma (KDE) session in Raring" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1086868 | |
| [16:49] <agateau> ScottK: Cédric Bellegarde | |
| [16:49] <agateau> ScottK: his irc nick is gnumdk | |
| [16:49] <ScottK> agateau: Thanks. | |
| [16:50] <afiestas> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/107329/ | |
| [16:50] <soee> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ | |
| [16:50] <soee> whers the 13.04 image ? | |
| [16:50] <ScottK> soee: Read the release announcement | |
| [16:50] <soee> ok i think i missed something there | |
| [16:50] <ScottK> (linked from kubuntu.org) | |
| [16:51] <shadeslayer> soee: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/13.04/alpha-1/ | |
| [16:51] <ScottK> agateau: He's not on #kde-devel. Any idea where he hangs out? | |
| [16:52] <agateau> ScottK: he is most likely offline then | |
| [16:53] <ScottK> OK. Thanks. | |
| [16:53] <agateau> ScottK: you might want to contact him through https://launchpad.net/~gnumdk | |
| [16:54] <ScottK> Thanks. | |
| [16:59] <soee> shadeslayer, | |
| [16:59] <shadeslayer> yes? | |
| [17:00] <soee> ok so i have to download iso and than use it with torrent? | |
| [17:01] <ScottK> yofel: Did you take care of today's 4.9.4 breakage? | |
| [17:01] <shadeslayer> soee: sure | |
| [17:31] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I must have uploaded an old version of the packaging | |
| [17:31] <shadeslayer> okay | |
| [17:31] * shadeslayer is talking to the tomahawk guys | |
| [17:32] <soee> testing alpha 1 in VB :) | |
| [17:32] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I renamed it to kmahjongg-data so that's what it should be | |
| [17:32] <shadeslayer> right :) | |
| [17:45] <soee> is it possible to run VB in fullscreen mode ? | |
| [17:53] <soee> what do you think about updating 12.10 to 13.04 ? | |
| [17:54] <ScottK> soee: As we said in the release announcement, it may break. | |
| [17:54] <ScottK> So you should consider how big a deal that is to you. | |
| [17:54] <soee> :) | |
| [17:55] <soee> i like to risk :) | |
| [17:55] <ScottK> What would be useful is if you could keep your Alpha 1 VB install available to test upgrading to KDE SC 4.10 Beta 2 when we have packages ready (like you did with 4.9.4) | |
| [17:56] * shadeslayer wonders if he has raring-proposed enabled | |
| [17:57] <shadeslayer> yep, so yay | |
| [17:57] <soee> well i have 3.04 running on my VB | |
| [17:57] <soee> *13.04 | |
| [17:57] <soee> works smooth and without errors so far | |
| === WhiteKnight is now known as Hawkloon | |
| [18:09] <ScottK> shadeslayer: You aren't supposed to enable raring-proposed. | |
| [18:09] <shadeslayer> but ... but ... I'm a developer! | |
| [18:10] <ScottK> Still not. | |
| [18:10] <maco> but nothing's been proposed yet | |
| [18:10] <ScottK> raring-proposed is for sync'ing up builds. | |
| [18:11] <ScottK> maco: Sure. Tons of stuff in proposed since that's where all uploads land initially now | |
| [18:11] <maco> wow my server with quassel core on it thinks it's 12 minutes after the hour. my desktop thinks it's 9 minutes after the hour. hrmmm | |
| [18:11] <maco> oh | |
| [18:11] <shadeslayer> I was under the impression that proposed is for developers | |
| [18:11] <maco> new policy stuffs | |
| [18:11] <shadeslayer> like | |
| [18:11] <shadeslayer> you can enable it, but be prepared to fix your stuff | |
| [18:11] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Go ask infinity if you should have proposed enabled. | |
| [18:11] <shadeslayer> hahaha | |
| [18:11] * shadeslayer is not sure if that's a good idea | |
| [18:11] * ScottK waits for the earth shattering kaboom. | |
| [19:01] <soee> ok im seeding :) | |
| [19:01] <soee> transfer ~ 500kbs | |
| [19:14] <shadeslayer> :D | |
| [19:15] <shadeslayer> interesting to see how amd64 is already ahead | |
| [19:15] <shadeslayer> 3 GB's vs 1 GB | |
| [19:16] <Noskcaj> shadeslayer, I'm back, anything happend with the bug? | |
| [19:16] <shadeslayer> not that I know of, no | |
| [19:16] <shadeslayer> I'm just about to go to sleep, my eyes, they buurrrnnn | |
| [19:23] <Riddell> night night shadeslayer | |
| [19:24] <shadeslayer> night :) | |
| [19:31] <Noskcaj> good night | |
| [19:40] <Noskcaj> if anyone cared shadeslayer and i were working on a bug in the preparing to install kubuntu screen, i just found out it affects most flavours | |
| [19:44] <shadeslayer> oh yay | |
| [19:44] <shadeslayer> well | |
| [19:44] <shadeslayer> not yay, but okay | |
| [19:44] <shadeslayer> "business card format: 90 x 50 mm or 85 x 55 mm?" | |
| [19:44] <shadeslayer> hah | |
| [19:44] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^ want to field that one on G+? | |
| [19:44] <Riddell> um, I've no idea | |
| [19:45] <Riddell> I've not looked for printers | |
| [19:46] <shadeslayer> lemme check something real quick | |
| [19:48] <shadeslayer> Measured a couple of cards, Canonical does 90x50 , KDE does 85x50 | |
| [19:49] <shadeslayer> Collabora does something like 82x52 | |
| [19:50] <shadeslayer> Harald's old Kubuntu card is 80x50 | |
| [19:51] <shadeslayer> 85x50 looks about right | |
| [19:51] <highvoltage> at the very least it's a good idea to not have it bigger than a credit card in any direction | |
| [19:52] <shadeslayer> true | |
| [19:52] <soee> thats the standard from what i see | |
| [19:52] <soee> same as credit card ISO 7810 ID-1 | |
| [19:53] <shadeslayer> my debit card is 80x50 | |
| [19:53] <highvoltage> I get annoyed when someone gives me a card and it doesn't actually fit in my wallet and I have to fold it and it just ends up taking more space in my wallet | |
| [19:53] <shadeslayer> hehe | |
| [19:53] <highvoltage> lots of people just end up throwing those away real soon | |
| [20:00] <maco> i think 90x50 versus 85x55 is country-dependent | |
| [20:00] <maco> US business cards are 2x3.5 inches, iirc | |
| [20:00] <shadeslayer> inches @_@ | |
| [20:01] <shadeslayer> you're going to make a sleepy shadeslayer do conversions :( | |
| [20:01] <maco> thats 89x50 | |
| [20:01] <shadeslayer> thx | |
| [20:02] <maco> so, just like A4 is longer and narrower than letter, canonicals cards are longer and narrower than US cards | |
| [20:03] <maco> no wait thats backwards | |
| [20:03] <maco> canonicals match US | |
| [20:04] <maco> wahhh | |
| [20:04] <shadeslayer> heh | |
| [20:04] <maco> screw it have a wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_card#Dimensions | |
| [20:04] <shadeslayer> lol | |
| [20:04] <shadeslayer> didn't realize there was an article about that | |
| [20:04] <maco> oh i <3 wikipedia for paper size comparisons | |
| [20:04] <maco> i have some B1 paper at home :P | |
| [20:06] <shadeslayer> fun, India follows the 90x55 the UK follows 85x55 | |
| [20:06] <shadeslayer> lets get both then :P | |
| [20:06] <shadeslayer> US : 88.9 × 50.8 | |
| [20:06] <maco> yeah so the US one is like someone took the ones from the bottom row and hit them with a bit of sandpaper on the edges | |
| [20:06] <shadeslayer> hey US, y u so weird | |
| [20:07] <shadeslayer> ->sleep, for real | |
| [20:07] <Riddell> shadeslayer: not yet caught up with metric | |
| [20:26] <keithzg> Riddell: The U.S. is aggressively resisting metric. Hell, even up here in Canada people give stuff like their weights and heights in American Imperial | |
| [20:27] <ScottK> It's the English Imperial system. | |
| [20:27] <ScottK> They just gave up on it. | |
| [20:42] <dantti_laptop> hi, can you please try to backport 64988f79dc199bbd4e96db0ea34f8c5bb6450747 of network manager? it will fix cisco vpn connection to show the auth dialog :) | |
| [20:43] <ScottK> cyphermox: ^^^ | |
| [20:45] <cyphermox> let me check | |
| [20:46] <cyphermox> dantti_laptop: where's that commit from, do you have a URL? it doesn't match to anything here? | |
| [20:47] <dantti_laptop> nm repo | |
| [20:47] <dantti_laptop> afaik | |
| [20:47] <dantti_laptop> let me check | |
| [20:47] <cyphermox> still, it's not a valid commit id in cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager | |
| [20:48] <cyphermox> dantti_laptop: I'm looking twice because it seems like I've already fixed things if it's the issue with paths for starting auth dialogs | |
| [20:49] <dantti_laptop> hmm we hunted this bug yesterday... | |
| [20:50] <cyphermox> if you can give me a url to the patch or a patch directly I'll be happy to apply it | |
| [20:50] <cyphermox> it's just that right now I'd be unable to find the code to apply ;) | |
| [20:50] <cyphermox> oh wait, unless the web interface isn't up to date | |
| [20:51] <cyphermox> not getting any more luck with git directly :/ | |
| [20:51] <dantti_laptop> cyphermox: https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/base/networkmanagement/repository/revisions/64988f79dc199bbd4e96db0ea34f8c5bb6450747 | |
| [20:52] <cyphermox> ah, that's very different | |
| [20:52] <cyphermox> ScottK: are you available to merge request reviews if I apply this, before I upload? | |
| [20:53] <cyphermox> dantti_laptop: that's for raring, right? | |
| [20:54] <dantti_laptop> cyphermox: if it could be backported to quantal would be cool imo... | |
| [21:05] <cyphermox> so maybe there's just no special packaging branch for networkmanagement | |
| [21:06] <Riddell> cyphermox: we don't have a packaging branch of that no | |
| [21:07] <cyphermox> Riddell: ok, thanks | |
| [21:08] <cyphermox> dantti_laptop: did you have a launchpad bug for this? | |
| [21:09] <dantti_laptop> no | |
| [21:10] <dantti_laptop> I was trying to convinf a coworker to use kde and we found this bug, I talked to lamarque, then we tested and it worked | |
| [21:10] <dantti_laptop> *convince | |
| [21:12] <cyphermox> ok | |
| [21:13] <cyphermox> just let me finish up with this intricate mess of wpasupplicant patches, and I'll finish building/uploading networkmanagement | |
| [21:14] <ScottK> cyphermox: Thanks for taking care of it. | |
| [21:17] <cyphermox> dantti_laptop: going to start with raring, and do quantal tomorrow if you can remind me | |
| [21:17] <dantti_laptop> cyphermox: sure, thanks :) | |
| === You're now known as ubuntulog | |
| [23:26] <yofel> ScottK: if you mean the 4.9.4 patch from dfaure, that's done | |
| [23:26] <ScottK> yofel: Yes. Thanks. | |