| [01:59] <bkerensa> Can I have Bug #949578 marked as Wishlist | |
| [01:59] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 949578 in xorg-gtest "[MIR] xorg-gtest" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949578 | |
| [02:01] <bkerensa> and Bug #949568 and Bug #949575 | |
| [02:01] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 949568 in gnome-session "Default GNOME fallback session should be "GNOME Classic (no effects)" (Metacity)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949568 | |
| [02:01] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 949575 in gtest "Main inclusion request for libgtest-dev" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949575 | |
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| [09:08] <veger> bug #799460 is not being caused by akregator (kdepim), but by an other application of which I am not sure (nspluginviewer/firefox/???). What to do with this report? Just setting the kdepim status to invalid seems a bit harsh to me... | |
| [09:08] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 799460 in kdepim "nspluginviewer crashes when attempting to display flash content in Akregator" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/799460 | |
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| [19:08] <matthew-parlette> not sure if my last message went through: | |
| [19:08] <matthew-parlette> hey all, I'm working on bug 950006, which appears to have all error messages included and I can't find any duplicates based on the error text, is there anything else I need to do on this before confirming it? | |
| [19:08] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 950006 in update-manager "Upgrade from oneiric to precise fails because of py3clean" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950006 | |
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| [21:45] <bdmurray> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/72478714/bad%20bad%20bad%20very%20bad%20video.ogv | |
| [21:45] <bdmurray> lol | |
| [21:50] <yofel> nice one :D | |
| [21:51] <mdeslaur> hehe | |
| [22:50] <JohnNapster> hello | |
| [22:51] <JohnNapster> there's a critical bug in ubuntu | |
| [22:52] <bdmurray> do you mean one that isn't marked as critical? | |
| [22:54] <JohnNapster> please listen | |
| [22:55] <JohnNapster> if you set your admin account to hve a blank password, you will regret it for the rest of your life | |
| [22:55] <JohnNapster> because you will not be able to log into your admin user account once you reboot your machine | |
| [22:56] <JohnNapster> i tried EVERYTHING | |
| [22:56] <hggdh> ? why not sudo? | |
| [22:56] <JanC> I think the only bug there is that you could set an empty password | |
| [22:56] <hggdh> by 'admin' I understand root | |
| [22:56] <JohnNapster> nope | |
| [22:57] <JohnNapster> by admin i mean an administrator account | |
| [22:57] <JohnNapster> not root | |
| [22:57] <hggdh> an account that is a member of the admin group, right? | |
| [22:57] <JohnNapster> admin = administrator type account (not standard) | |
| [22:57] <JohnNapster> yes | |
| [22:57] <jalcine> You should be able to reset the password of the account using sudo though, | |
| [22:57] <JohnNapster> like how ?? | |
| [22:57] <jalcine> if you have another account in the sudoers group. | |
| [22:58] <JohnNapster> i don+t | |
| [22:58] <hggdh> ok. One way out of this mess, right now, is to boot into recovery | |
| [22:58] <JohnNapster> that's my problem | |
| [22:58] <JanC> log in to the rescue console | |
| [22:58] <JohnNapster> okay just tell me and i'll try at reboot | |
| [22:58] <JanC> well, boot into the rescue console | |
| [22:58] <JohnNapster> how? | |
| [22:59] <JanC> JohnNapster: hold shift while booting, then choose the appropriate option in the boot menu | |
| [22:59] <JohnNapster> please bare with me, i am really dumb :) | |
| [22:59] <hggdh> (1) reboot; (2) hold the SHIFT key until you see the GRUB boot menu; (3) select recovery | |
| [22:59] <JohnNapster> ok | |
| [22:59] <hggdh> you will be put into a console | |
| [23:00] <JohnNapster> then what should i do? | |
| [23:00] <hggdh> as root. Then, you enter "passwd <your account>", | |
| [23:00] <hggdh> where <your account> is the one you do not have a password | |
| [23:00] <JohnNapster> just like that? | |
| [23:00] <JanC> it will give you a menu, choose the root shell option | |
| [23:01] <JohnNapster> so like abc123 myaccountname ?? | |
| [23:01] <hggdh> then you enter the new password. It is a VERY GOOD idea to make it the same you had before | |
| [23:01] <JohnNapster> no sudo in front or some other command? | |
| [23:01] <JanC> it gives you a root shell ;) | |
| [23:01] <JohnNapster> i see | |
| [23:01] <hggdh> like 'passwd hggdh', where 'hggdh' is the account | |
| [23:01] <JohnNapster> i see | |
| [23:01] <hggdh> now | |
| [23:02] <JohnNapster> okay now i get it... nw i have question | |
| [23:02] <JanC> and yes, you can disable/restrict that option in the grub boot menu ;) | |
| [23:02] <JohnNapster> why don't u block making a blank password? | |
| [23:02] <hggdh> it is really NOT a very good idea to have an admin-capable account without password, EVEN if the machine is at home, in a safe | |
| [23:02] <hggdh> because there are uses for it | |
| [23:03] <JohnNapster> yeah, like if you anna break everything like i did | |
| [23:03] <JanC> hggdh: I disagree that there are uses for 99.99% of users that use the GUI installer | |
| [23:03] <hggdh> this is a bug, though: an account member of the admin group should NEVER be allowed not to have a password | |
| [23:03] <JohnNapster> please inforce that | |
| [23:04] <hggdh> JanC: I am not discussing the merit of password-less accounts ;-) I frankly do not see any reason for them, at all | |
| [23:04] <JohnNapster> because otheerwise we experience nasty effects (like not being able to login to the admin type account) | |
| [23:05] <hggdh> yes, this is an usage issue (user expectation). This should not be allowed | |
| [23:05] <JohnNapster> if we set a blank password | |
| [23:05] <JanC> hggdh: oh, I can see uses for them, but not for members of group admin in Ubuntu ;) | |
| [23:06] <hggdh> there is a thread, somewhere, about this. JohnNapster, what is your Ubuntu version? | |
| [23:06] * hggdh thinks this is a bit recent | |
| [23:06] <JohnNapster> can you guys force the user not being able to set a blank password in the User Accounts section for the group admin accounts?? | |
| [23:06] <JohnNapster> my version is 11.10 | |
| [23:07] <hggdh> thanks. JohnNapster, I believe you have ways of pinging us here if you have an issue during the resetting of the password. Please holler if so | |
| [23:08] <JohnNapster> i'll try your suggestion | |
| [23:08] <JohnNapster> brb | |
| [23:08] <hggdh> some sort of decision must be taken (either correcting the error you get when you try to 'sudo', or not allowing a password-less admin account) | |
| [23:08] <JanC> JohnNapster: and please file a bug report about this | |
| [23:08] <JohnNapster> oh and about that bug... are you gonna fix it? | |
| [23:08] <JohnNapster> please ou do it | |
| [23:08] <hggdh> if you open the bug, why, yes, we will :-) | |
| [23:09] <JohnNapster> i am very limited on this machine | |
| [23:09] <JohnNapster> someone ought to do this | |
| [23:09] <JohnNapster> i can't, really | |
| [23:09] <JohnNapster> hggdh: would you do the honors? | |
| [23:10] <hggdh> JohnNapster: I will try to reproduce. If I can, I will (may be related to 11.10, only, and I will have to install it) | |
| [23:11] * hggdh thinks this sounds like a regression | |
| [23:12] <JohnNapster> i can get into the recovery console by Ctl+Alt+F4 | |
| [23:13] <JohnNapster> i did what you said and it spitted out command mypassword123 not found | |
| [23:13] <JohnNapster> and then Alt+F7 to come back | |
| [23:14] <JohnNapster> and yes, i was doing the thing u said as root | |
| [23:15] <JohnNapster> root@Machine mypassword123 myaccountname1234 | |
| [23:15] <JohnNapster> and it says mypassword123: command not found | |
| [23:16] <JohnNapster> anyother suggestion? | |
| [23:17] <hggdh> passwd account | |
| [23:18] <hggdh> passwd is the command | |
| [23:18] <JohnNapster> oh | |
| [23:18] <JohnNapster> silly me | |
| [23:18] <hggdh> JohnNapster: let's say your account is named 'john' | |
| [23:18] <JohnNapster> ok | |
| [23:18] <hggdh> so you type in 'passwd john' | |
| [23:18] <JohnNapster> oohh | |
| [23:19] <JohnNapster> so you mean like passwd john mysecretpassword123 ? | |
| [23:19] <hggdh> and, again, it is a VERY good idea to set the password to what it was before | |
| [23:19] <JohnNapster> ok, gotcha | |
| [23:19] <hggdh> there are other parts of the desktop experience that will be happier this way | |
| [23:23] <JohnNapster> they shouldn't be "happieer" | |
| [23:23] <JohnNapster> they should adapt to the new password | |
| [23:23] <JohnNapster> ubuntu is very broken in this regard | |
| [23:23] <hggdh> they do. But you are outside the desktop, right now | |
| [23:23] <JohnNapster> not really | |
| [23:24] <hggdh> actually, Ubuntu (or Linux, in general) is not broken on this... | |
| [23:24] <JohnNapster> i am in a guest account in firefox | |
| [23:24] <JohnNapster> tring to get some help from ou guys | |
| [23:24] <JohnNapster> tring | |
| [23:24] <JohnNapster> god dammit :) | |
| [23:24] <JohnNapster> trying* | |
| [23:25] <hggdh> heh | |
| [23:25] <hggdh> JohnNapster: I am confused. If you are under a guest account, how can you run the password change process? | |
| [23:26] <JohnNapster> Ctrl+Alt+F4 | |
| [23:27] <hggdh> that would not really help, since you cannot login as root | |
| [23:27] <JohnNapster> gets me into the console and then i get out by Alt+F7 | |
| [23:27] <JohnNapster> i can! | |
| [23:27] <JohnNapster> i already did login as root that way | |
| [23:28] <hggdh> so, so you CAN login as root. Did you change the password for your account? | |
| [23:28] <JohnNapster> it didn't work | |
| [23:28] <hggdh> please give us the exact command you executed, and the EXACT output | |
| [23:29] <JohnNapster> ok let me retype | |
| [23:30] <JohnNapster> too much to retype... | |
| [23:30] <JohnNapster> it was like so... | |
| [23:30] <JohnNapster> i typed su | |
| [23:30] <JohnNapster> and then i was root | |
| [23:31] <hggdh> and? | |
| [23:31] <JohnNapster> then i typed passwd and pressed enter | |
| [23:31] <hggdh> NOOOOOO | |
| [23:31] <JohnNapster> it said please type new UNIX password | |
| [23:31] <hggdh> passwd <account> | |
| [23:31] <JohnNapster> oh | |
| [23:31] <hggdh> you most probably just changed the root password | |
| [23:31] <JohnNapster> wait | |
| [23:31] <JohnNapster> i did yeah | |
| [23:32] <hggdh> better not forget it... | |
| [23:33] <JohnNapster> okay now i did it | |
| [23:33] <JohnNapster> let me try this baby | |
| [23:38] <JohnNapster> my sincere condolences, but this does not work guys | |
| [23:38] <JohnNapster> i am still not able to login to my admin group account | |
| [23:38] <JohnNapster> i am logged in as guest | |
| [23:39] <JohnNapster> and i can't even mount my usb key | |
| [23:40] <hggdh> did you login with your account? | |
| [23:40] <JohnNapster> yes | |
| [23:40] <JohnNapster> but it threw me out | |
| [23:41] <JohnNapster> i had no choice but to pick the Guest account at the Unity login | |
| [23:41] <hggdh> what happened? | |
| [23:41] <JohnNapster> or how it's called | |
| [23:42] <JohnNapster> some text was displayed after i clicked on my account .... you know where it says blah blah blah[OK] | |
| [23:43] <JohnNapster> and then it put me right back to the login screen | |
| [23:43] <bdmurray> blah blah blah isn't very descriptive | |
| [23:43] <hggdh> so we go back to resetting the password on your admin account | |
| [23:43] <JohnNapster> my account (the admin group one) did not have the password field... just a button labeled Login | |
| [23:44] <hggdh> which means it does not have a password | |
| [23:44] <JohnNapster> bt i must hve | |
| [23:44] <hggdh> I thought this was what we asked you to do | |
| [23:44] <JohnNapster> i changed it | |
| [23:44] <hggdh> let's do it again | |
| [23:44] <JohnNapster> logged in as root, did the passwd john password123 | |
| [23:44] <hggdh> no | |
| [23:44] <hggdh> passwd john | |
| [23:45] <JohnNapster> i mean passwd john | |
| [23:45] <JohnNapster> yeah | |
| [23:45] <hggdh> ok | |
| [23:45] <JohnNapster> then when it asked i typed the password | |
| [23:45] <hggdh> now STILL on the console, log out, and log in as john | |
| [23:46] <JohnNapster> like type exit to get out of root ? | |
| [23:46] <hggdh> yes, and get back to the console login | |
| [23:46] <JohnNapster> like which console login? | |
| [23:47] <hggdh> ctrl-alt-f1 | |
| [23:47] <JohnNapster> oh that one | |
| [23:47] <JohnNapster> ok | |
| [23:47] <JohnNapster> my machine name is Monk | |
| [23:47] <JohnNapster> it says Monk login | |
| [23:48] <hggdh> yes | |
| [23:48] <hggdh> now type in your account name | |
| [23:48] <hggdh> then you will be prompted for a password, type the new password in | |
| [23:49] <JohnNapster> you know what? | |
| [23:49] <hggdh> shoot :-) | |
| [23:49] <hggdh> it did not work... | |
| [23:49] <JohnNapster> i typed john in there and i had to type my password | |
| [23:49] <JohnNapster> i typed the one i set before | |
| [23:49] <JohnNapster> it worked! | |
| [23:49] <hggdh> heh | |
| [23:49] <hggdh> OK | |
| [23:50] <JohnNapster> but i still can't login to that account at the GUI level | |
| [23:50] <JohnNapster> i am not even asked for password | |
| [23:50] <JohnNapster> this is a terrible bug | |
| [23:50] <hggdh> nope | |
| [23:51] <JohnNapster> why did i make the account password blank, oh for the love of god why | |
| [23:52] <JohnNapster> ok what do you propose now? | |
| [23:52] <hggdh> as root, enter "sudo restart lightdm" <- you WILL lose your gueste session. Then login again, and come here again | |
| [23:52] <JohnNapster> ok | |
| [23:52] <JohnNapster> see ya ;) | |
| [23:52] <hggdh> we will be here | |
| [23:55] <JohnNapster_> htorhello | |
| [23:55] <JohnNapster_> hggdh: thank you a million times!! | |
| [23:55] <JohnNapster_> now i am logged into my john account | |
| [23:55] <JohnNapster_> thanks so much | |
| [23:59] <JohnNapster_> another thing... why does a blank password corrupt the admin group account? | |