| [00:21] <jono> hey everyone | |
| [00:22] <cjohnston> hi | |
| [00:22] <popey> yo | |
| [00:22] <cjohnston> /33/ | |
| [00:22] <popey> /45/ | |
| [00:23] <pangolin> HIKE | |
| [00:23] <popey> bah | |
| [00:23] <popey> /78/ was the correct response | |
| [00:23] <popey> young-uns | |
| [00:23] * popey goes to bed | |
| [00:30] <pangolin> night | |
| [03:48] <bkerensa> akgraner: Do we know who works on the Ubuntu Friendly team? | |
| [03:49] <cprofitt> Ara I think | |
| [03:49] <cprofitt> https://launchpad.net/~apulido | |
| [03:50] <akgraner> bkerensa, yes we do - | |
| [03:50] <cprofitt> not sure of any others | |
| [03:50] <cprofitt> hey akgraner | |
| [03:50] <akgraner> bkerensa, what do you need to know that's Victor's team - what's up? | |
| [03:50] <akgraner> cprofitt, hey | |
| [03:51] <bkerensa> akgraner: Were considering doing some Ubuntu Friendly testing at our Global Jam in addition to Ubuntu and Debian bug fixing | |
| [03:51] <bkerensa> ;) | |
| [03:51] <bkerensa> so we wanted a list of stuff we will need | |
| [03:51] <akgraner> oh cool - it's easy | |
| [03:52] <cprofitt> yeah... | |
| [03:52] <akgraner> look in the dash at system testing | |
| [03:52] <bkerensa> k | |
| [03:52] <cprofitt> I think you can do the testing with a CD or flashdrive boot | |
| [03:52] <akgraner> and that's all you need to do | |
| [03:52] <akgraner> :-) | |
| [03:52] <cprofitt> if I remember the con call | |
| [03:52] <akgraner> yep you can | |
| [03:53] <cprofitt> alright... I gotta get some sleep | |
| [03:53] <akgraner> night cprofitt | |
| [03:53] <cprofitt> have a great night all | |
| [03:53] <akgraner> bkerensa, I have a slide deck somewhere about Ubuntu Friendly - as I demo'd it for a LUG meeting | |
| [03:53] <akgraner> I'll send it to you this week | |
| [03:54] <akgraner> but basically if you just go through the 'system testing' you'll know what to do - but if you have questions about it - join #ubuntu-testing or shoot me an email and I'll help you out as well | |
| [03:56] <akgraner> bkerensa, give me til Friday to get you the slidedeck - I have a couple things I need to do this week but bug me if I don't have it to you by Friday ( I need to send it to Victor as well :-/) | |
| [04:28] <nigelb> Its an akgraner! :) | |
| [04:29] <akgraner> nigelb, hey you! | |
| [04:29] <nigelb> o/ | |
| [04:29] <nigelb> How was LC? | |
| [04:32] <akgraner> awesome and busy | |
| [04:32] <akgraner> and I can flash SD drives and install all kinds of things on our member boards now - woot woot :-) | |
| [04:33] <nigelb> \o/ | |
| [04:33] <nigelb> so do we call you ARM geek now? | |
| [04:33] <akgraner> nigelb, haha | |
| [04:34] <akgraner> we also demo's Ubuntu TV on ARM (PandaBoard) and that was popular as well as an XBMC demo on Snowball. Was pretty cool - video will be out over the next few weeks of all our demos | |
| [04:35] <nigelb> *whee* | |
| [04:35] <akgraner> s/demo's/demo'd | |
| [04:35] <mhall119> akgraner: how was the performance of the TV on the pandaboard? | |
| [04:35] <akgraner> awesome :-) | |
| [04:36] <akgraner> gotta luv those boxee remotes too :-) | |
| [04:36] * mhall119 gotta get one to love | |
| [04:36] <akgraner> our android team had 10 demos on 5 boards | |
| [04:37] <akgraner> they demo's various games running on ICS | |
| [04:37] <akgraner> dang it - demo'd | |
| [04:37] <mhall119> I saw someone post an image of a quad-core A9 | |
| [04:37] <akgraner> yep | |
| [04:37] <akgraner> I'll be posting pics tonight hopefully | |
| [04:37] <mhall119> some nice hardware starting to come out | |
| [04:38] <akgraner> totally - I'm excited | |
| [04:38] <mhall119> I'm jealous | |
| [04:38] <akgraner> why? | |
| [04:38] <mhall119> because I don't have any :( | |
| [04:38] <akgraner> ahhh | |
| [04:38] <mhall119> I wish I had more time for hardware-hacking | |
| [04:40] <nigelb> mhall119: me too. | |
| [04:40] <nigelb> I really want to hack on ARM or arduino. | |
| [04:50] <cjohnston> I learned how to use my Beagle enough to know I want a newer board too | |
| [04:51] <akgraner> cjohnston, :-) | |
| [04:51] <akgraner> cjohnston, nooo - I got a plan for you and that BeagleBoard :-P (just kidding) | |
| [04:52] <cjohnston> uh oh | |
| [04:52] <cjohnston> for some reason, i dont think your actually kidding | |
| [04:52] <cjohnston> akgraner: if it was running ICS it would be cooler.. I think I have alot of work to get it to ICS | |
| [04:53] <akgraner> are you running the Ubuntu LEB on it now? | |
| [04:54] <cjohnston> ya.. | |
| [04:54] <cjohnston> it was ok | |
| [04:54] <cjohnston> very slow sd card | |
| [04:55] <akgraner> cjohnston, gotcha - let me send you some info tomorrow - see what we can do about that | |
| [04:55] <cjohnston> ok | |
| [04:55] <cjohnston> I'm gonna try to work with Ash on ICS | |
| [04:56] <pleia2> ICS even on production devices is a bit special sometimes :\ | |
| [04:56] <akgraner> pleia2, you are so nice using the word "special" painful is what I would use :-) | |
| [04:57] <pleia2> hehe | |
| [04:57] <pleia2> it's actually not /that/ bad on my phone now that 4.0.3 is out | |
| [04:57] <pleia2> was pretty battery draining and crashy earlier | |
| [04:57] <cjohnston> I want ICS on my phone | |
| [04:58] <akgraner> what do you have on it now | |
| [04:59] <cjohnston> 2.3.4 | |
| [05:00] <akgraner> yeah people teased me b/c I don't have it on my phone either - but whatever, I said I have it on an SD card... | |
| [05:00] <cjohnston> i would put it on my phone if it was in the neighborhood of easy | |
| [05:01] <pleia2> mine isn't due to any geek cred, I have a Nexus S that got it OTA | |
| [05:01] <cjohnston> blah blah blah | |
| [05:04] <akgraner> cjohnston, have you recovered from Connect | |
| [05:04] <pleia2> cjohnston: home yet, or enjoying LA still? | |
| [05:04] <akgraner> I have a cold now - I slept for half the day today... | |
| [05:04] <cjohnston> akgraner: im in cali still | |
| [05:05] <akgraner> pleia2, ^^ | |
| [05:05] <pleia2> :) | |
| [05:05] <cjohnston> ill be home at 410est tomorrow | |
| [05:06] <akgraner> I wanted to stay for ELC and ABS but sadly I didn't get to this year | |
| [05:06] <akgraner> Pete accused me of being an event junkie :-/ and in need of intervention | |
| [05:07] <pleia2> I had to get over events really quick living out here, there is so much all the time | |
| [05:07] <pleia2> end up with event hangover :) | |
| [05:07] <pleia2> it stops being fun | |
| [05:09] <akgraner> I can see how that happens | |
| [05:16] <nigelb> pleia2: event hangovers - I go through that every month :( | |
| [05:16] <nigelb> Perils of working as a conference organizers. | |
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| [07:46] <dholbach> good morning | |
| === amithkk is now known as nicknametaken | |
| === nicknametaken is now known as amithkk | |
| [08:17] <czajkowski> aloha | |
| [08:26] <bkerensa> heh | |
| [08:26] <bkerensa> akgraner: You have to go to OSCON sometime... Its the Grammy's of FOSS | |
| [08:26] <bkerensa> :) | |
| [11:03] <nigelb> planned maintenance | |
| [12:54] <mhall119> thanks dholbach | |
| [12:54] <dholbach> :) | |
| [13:54] <jcastro> hey mhall119 | |
| [13:55] <jcastro> don't we want the Loco IRC to point to #locoteams? | |
| [13:55] <mhall119> jcastro: global jam is community-wide | |
| [13:56] <jcastro> I get that | |
| [13:56] <mhall119> jono and I thought it would be better to point it here | |
| [13:56] <jcastro> ok | |
| [13:57] <jcastro> I was under the impression that this was a team channel | |
| [13:57] <jcastro> but whatever. :) | |
| [13:58] <mhall119> jcastro: yeah, jono mentioned that we should drop the -team from the channel name | |
| [13:58] <czajkowski> mhall119: but we've always said go to #ububntu-locoteams | |
| [13:58] <czajkowski> why the change? | |
| [13:59] <mhall119> czajkowski: this is a new feature for global events, we've never pointed anything anywhere before | |
| [13:59] <jcastro> @mhall119 well, I thought this channel was the team channel | |
| [13:59] <meetingology> jcastro: Error: "mhall119" is not a valid command. | |
| [13:59] <jcastro> not a hangout channel | |
| [13:59] <czajkowski> mhall119: on blog posts and mails we have always directed them to the locoteams channel | |
| [13:59] <jcastro> I'm just concerned it will turn into #ubunty | |
| [13:59] <mhall119> czajkowski: for general chatter? | |
| [13:59] <MrChrisDruif> jcastro; indeed, I thought we had #ubuntu-offtopic for that? | |
| [13:59] <jcastro> er, #ubuntu | |
| [14:00] <czajkowski> mhall119: always | |
| [14:00] <czajkowski> general chatter went there | |
| [14:00] <czajkowski> p[us fot teams wanting to show off what they were doing | |
| [14:00] <czajkowski> during the day, or ask where they should go, they went there first | |
| [14:00] <mhall119> czajkowski: well the LC has the ability to edit that, if you guys wanted it pointed somewhere else | |
| [14:01] <czajkowski> well not if ye've made the decision to put them in here... | |
| [14:01] <mhall119> czajkowski: it's just a field in the database, easy enough to change | |
| [14:01] * jcastro doesn't feel strongly either way, was just pointing out that it was different | |
| [14:04] <mhall119> I don't have a preference either, I just needed to put *something* in the field | |
| [14:07] <jcastro> my only concern is monday after the jam that this channel becomes a mess | |
| [14:08] <jcastro> mhall119: can you help me with my wireless? | |
| [14:08] <jcastro> OMG FLASH BROKEN HALP. | |
| [14:08] <jcastro> etc. | |
| [14:09] <mhall119> and you'd rather that happens to -locoteams, or you don't think it will happen to -locoteams? | |
| [14:09] <mhall119> if we want to setup a separate channel specifically for globaljam chatter, I'm cool with that too | |
| [14:09] <mhall119> again, it's just a field in the database | |
| [14:10] * mhall119 needs to remove status.net form the microblog feed | |
| [14:10] <jcastro> well, we always did it in locoteams in the past | |
| [14:10] <jcastro> shrug, like I said, I'm not too opinionated about it | |
| [14:11] <MrChrisDruif> mhall119; that might even be a good idea | |
| [14:11] <mhall119> MrChrisDruif: that'll be windows #71 for me :( | |
| [14:11] <MrChrisDruif> mhall119; just for the UGJ ;-) | |
| [14:11] <MrChrisDruif> After that you can close it again ^_^ | |
| [14:12] <mhall119> close an irc window???? | |
| [14:12] <mhall119> blasphemy! | |
| [14:13] <mhall119> jcastro: are you enjoying watching everyone in Florida complain about 40F temperatures? | |
| [14:16] <jcastro> we went to the garlic fest over the weekend | |
| [14:16] <jcastro> and people were wearing coats and gloves and hats | |
| [14:16] <jcastro> I was like "what?" | |
| [14:17] <jcastro> I did wear a pullover yesterday though, it was a tad chilly | |
| [14:18] <MrChrisDruif> jcastro; and the temperature was? | |
| [14:18] <MrChrisDruif> (In Celsius if possible ^_^) | |
| [14:18] <jcastro> 50s iirc | |
| [14:18] <jcastro> oh, no clue in C | |
| [14:18] <MrChrisDruif> F? | |
| [14:18] <jcastro> it was light jacket weather, but not like, coats and gloves and stuff | |
| [14:19] <MrChrisDruif> Ah, 10+ C | |
| [14:19] <MrChrisDruif> Last week it was -13 C in Holland O_O | |
| [14:19] <MrChrisDruif> 8.6 F | |
| [14:20] <mhall119> MrChrisDruif: Floridians are weenies when it comes to cold | |
| [14:20] <mhall119> but we'll make fun of everyone else in the summer | |
| [14:21] <MrChrisDruif> Ghehe | |
| [14:22] <mhall119> we're all "Oh, you're on fire? Well we have humidity! take that!" | |
| [14:38] <s-fox> Hello. | |
| [14:52] <cjohnston> mornin | |
| [14:55] <MrChrisDruif> Afternoon cjohnston ^_^ | |
| [14:56] <cjohnston> it will be afternoon once I get on the plane | |
| [15:05] <mhall119> cjohnston: you're not back yet? | |
| [15:07] <cjohnston> no | |
| [15:11] <mhall119> cjohnston: stop vacationing and get back to work | |
| [15:16] <jcastro> hey guys | |
| [15:16] <jcastro> so, with this loco page | |
| [15:16] <jcastro> where are we putting tasks and stuff for people | |
| [15:20] <dpm> jcastro, I haven't been doing it myself yet, but I thought it was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam | |
| [15:21] <dpm> or the one on the loco directory | |
| [15:21] <dpm> for the event | |
| [15:21] <jcastro> yeah I am just confused, with the new page we'll probably remove a bunch of stuff from this page right? | |
| [15:22] <dpm> I thought the idea was just to modify the front page and leave the subpages as they were | |
| [15:22] <jcastro> ok | |
| [15:23] <jcastro> s-fox: yo. | |
| [15:24] <jcastro> s-fox: did someone with admin access link up with lamont? | |
| [15:29] <mhall119> dpm: the dashboard on the loco directory is for interaction/participation, the wiki is still better for detailed information | |
| [15:30] <dpm> mhall119, ok, cool | |
| [15:35] <s-fox> jcastro, I sent some contact details through. Not heard anything since | |
| [15:42] <czajkowski> never again shall I torture dholbach or jcastro for email addresses whoooooooo :D | |
| [15:43] <Pendulum> czajkowski: now your real motive comes clear :P | |
| [15:44] <czajkowski> yup | |
| [15:44] <czajkowski> al I wanted was email addresses | |
| [15:56] <dholbach> hey jono | |
| [15:57] <jono> hey dholbach | |
| [16:01] <jono> dholbach, all set? | |
| [16:01] <dholbach> yep | |
| [16:29] <jono> dpm, going to be a bit late | |
| [16:29] <dpm> jono, no worries | |
| [16:45] <jono> dpm, all set? | |
| [16:45] <dpm> jono, yep, let me grab a drink, I need 30 sec | |
| [16:46] <jono> dpm, np, will set up the hangout | |
| [16:46] * dholbach could do with a drink too | |
| [16:47] <jono> dpm, hangout sent | |
| [16:47] <jono> dholbach, jaegerbombs! :-) | |
| [16:47] <mhall119> one of those Mondays is it? | |
| [16:48] <dholbach> jono, that'd be a bit drastic :) | |
| [16:48] <jono> ain't nothing drastic about a jaegerbomb? | |
| [16:48] <jcastro> did someone say shots? | |
| [16:48] <jcastro> woo! | |
| [16:49] <jono> shot shot shot shot shot shots shots | |
| [16:49] <dholbach> I love you all | |
| [16:54] <czajkowski> ohhh nyommy jaegaerbombs! | |
| [16:54] <czajkowski> or baby guinness :D | |
| [17:01] <jcastro> <-- lunching | |
| [17:02] <jcastro> (though I might just go to a bar and get some jaegerbombs) | |
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| [17:25] <mhall119> jono: are we still on in 5? | |
| [17:26] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day - there's a one-year anniversary to celebrate | |
| [17:26] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow | |
| [17:26] <dholbach> hugs | |
| [17:27] <mhall119> bye dholbach | |
| [17:27] <mhall119> happy $anniversary | |
| [17:28] <dholbach> thanks :) | |
| [17:30] <jono> mhall119, all set? | |
| [17:30] <dpm> jcastro, you've got an awesome about page on your new blog | |
| [17:31] <jcastro> yeah that's about.me | |
| [17:31] <jcastro> dpm: http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/11360873455/lets-make-it-personal | |
| [17:33] <mhall119> jono: yup | |
| [17:33] <jono> mhall119, creating hangout | |
| [17:39] <dpm> ok, calling it a day... | |
| [17:39] <dpm> have a nice rest of the day everyone, and see you tomorrow! | |
| [17:42] <jcastro> mhall119: andrewsomething has fixes for CCSM in the queue | |
| [17:42] <jcastro> see ubuntu-desktop | |
| [17:42] <jcastro> you might have to ping smspillaz to look at them | |
| [18:06] <mhall119> jcastro: link to the fixes? | |
| [18:06] <jcastro> https://code.launchpad.net/~andrewsomething/ubuntu/precise/compizconfig-settings-manager/first_run_warning/+merge/91374 | |
| [18:06] <jcastro> https://code.launchpad.net/~andrewsomething/ubuntu/precise/compizconfig-settings-manager/disable_unity_checkbox/+merge/91375 | |
| [18:06] <jcastro> they're from like 3 days ago | |
| [18:07] <mhall119> jcastro: looks like didrocks is already on the case | |
| [18:07] <jcastro> oh awesome. <3 | |
| [18:08] <jcastro> looks like he must have read the same mail, heh | |
| [19:00] <jono> jcastro, all set? | |
| [19:02] <jcastro> jono: yep | |
| [19:02] <jcastro> sorry I was in the restoorm | |
| [19:03] <jono> jcastro, damn you! | |
| [19:03] <jono> :-) | |
| [19:03] <jcastro> yikes | |
| [19:03] <jcastro> plugin crashed | |
| [19:03] <jcastro> one sec | |
| [19:03] <jono> lol | |
| [19:11] <snap-l> jcastro: Introduce Jono to Signals. :) | |
| [19:11] <snap-l> Digital Man. :) | |
| [19:12] <koolhead17> hi all | |
| [19:13] <jono> :-) | |
| [19:21] <balloons> jono, skaggs live in 10? | |
| [19:24] <jono> balloons, yup | |
| [19:24] <jono> jcastro, http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1443/detail/ | |
| [19:26] <jono> balloons, want to start early? | |
| [19:26] <balloons> ohh yea.. 4 mins early! | |
| [19:26] <balloons> so good | |
| [19:26] <jono> into my fourth hour of calls | |
| [19:26] <jono> phew | |
| [19:26] <jono> Mondays are always intense | |
| [19:26] <balloons> real | |
| [19:27] <jono> invite sent | |
| [19:28] <jcastro> Daviey: ping | |
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| [20:20] <jono> lunch | |
| [20:20] <jono> biab | |
| [21:36] <jono> popey, ping? | |
| [21:36] <popey> yo | |
| [21:36] <jono> popey, are you running the business remix team? | |
| [21:37] <popey> no | |
| [21:37] <jono> popey, who is? | |
| [21:37] <popey> Gary Ekker is | |
| [21:37] <jono> ok cool | |
| [21:37] <jono> I need to get some content for Wired | |
| [21:37] <jono> will mail him | |
| [21:37] <jono> thanks | |
| [21:37] <popey> np | |
| [21:39] <balloons> the plot thickens... | |
| [21:39] <balloons> da da da dum... | |
| [21:48] <jcastro> INBOX 3 | |
| [21:49] * mhall119 inbox (500) | |
| [21:49] <mhall119> :( | |
| [21:51] <jcastro> Inbox 0 would be an awesome achievement in ubuntu | |
| [21:51] <jcastro> for the trophies | |
| [21:52] <jcastro> man where did the day go | |
| [21:53] <czajkowski> I've no idea. but so in dire need of sleep | |
| [21:56] <jo-erlend> jcastro, I actually manage that most of the time, though I really do get insane amounts of mail at times. :) | |
| [21:56] <jo-erlend> heh, it really requires quite an effort. :) | |
| [21:56] <pleia2> I give myself a gold star when I can keep it under 50 :) | |
| [21:56] <pleia2> (44 right now, woo gold star!) | |
| [21:57] <jo-erlend> I deleted all emails in my mailbox at new years eve, and now it's about 6500 emails. 0 unread. | |
| [21:59] <mhall119> czajkowski: how was your first day? | |
| [22:01] * balloons inbox(4) | |
| [22:01] <balloons> but that's not counting all the other items in folders that are unread.. sometimes the key to winning is to use a better metric :-) | |
| [22:01] <balloons> hehe | |
| [22:02] <jo-erlend> all folders and all accounts (0) :) | |
| [22:03] <jo-erlend> one thing that annoys me, though, is that gmail exposes some messages twice, so I have to mark them as read twice in tbird. | |
| [22:03] <jo-erlend> I'm very close to dropping the whole google thing once and for all. | |
| [22:05] <czajkowski> mhall119: inbox 0 :) | |
| [22:05] <czajkowski> am pooped | |
| [22:10] <jono> jcastro, 20% day...you should write some Juju and Server accomplishments ;-) | |
| [22:11] <jcastro> ok so like while I love the 20% idea | |
| [22:11] <jcastro> it doesn't actually add 20% time to my workday | |
| [22:12] <jono> lol | |
| [22:13] <jono> mhall119, did you figure out the problem with the number of UGJ events on l.u.c? | |
| [22:13] <jcastro> jono: oh dude | |
| [22:13] <jcastro> on the other hand | |
| [22:13] <jcastro> trophies are perfect for UCJ | |
| [22:13] <jcastro> er, UGJ | |
| [22:13] <jono> jcastro, indeed | |
| [22:14] <jcastro> a loco team, one whiteboard, 2 hours | |
| [22:14] <jcastro> could totally make a ton | |
| [22:14] <jono> jcastro, you wanna write them? | |
| [22:14] <jono> :-) | |
| [22:14] <jcastro> I'll have to see how close my tasks are to the black line that weekend | |
| [22:14] <jcastro> call me "plateau guy" | |
| [22:14] <jono> :-) | |
| [22:15] <jono> always the ideas...never the commitment... | |
| [22:15] <jono> lol | |
| [22:15] <jcastro> i know right | |
| [22:15] <jono> lol | |
| [22:15] <jcastro> I'll get my few in there | |
| [22:15] <jono> :-) | |
| [22:15] <jono> this week I hope to show it working so people can test it | |
| [22:16] <jono> for existing U1 users it is basically about there | |
| [22:16] <jcastro> jono: hey so, gustavo totally future proofed himself | |
| [22:16] <jcastro> when the store lands | |
| [22:16] <jcastro> the existing clients will just work | |
| [22:16] <jo-erlend> heh... Has the software center gone on strike in Precise? :) | |
| [22:17] <jcastro> that means that when the backend goes live, everyone with juju will just get the backend | |
| [22:17] <jcastro> they won't be like totally broken | |
| [22:17] <jcastro> it's totally awesome | |
| [22:17] <jcastro> even on 11.10 | |
| [22:19] <jono> jcastro, sweet | |
| [22:19] <jono> jo-erlend, they are getting synced over soon | |
| [22:19] <jo-erlend> jono, it's not just me then. Thanks :) | |
| [22:20] <jcastro> hmm, is this local menu thing omg running real? | |
| [22:20] <jono> jo-erlend, :-) | |
| [22:20] <jcastro> I thought they were just putting them in the window title area, not making them vertical | |
| [22:20] <jono> jcastro, Trevinho is working on it | |
| [22:20] <jono> not sure what the final design will be | |
| [22:20] <jono> I suspect this will get some user testing | |
| [22:20] <jono> and be adjusted | |
| [22:21] <jono> it can work in a few different modes | |
| [22:21] <jcastro> oh I am just wondering if this was a result of the last batch of user testing | |
| [22:21] <jono> it was a result of a merge proposal | |
| [22:22] <jcastro> it looks awesome | |
| [22:22] <jcastro> no more disappearing menu! | |
| [22:24] <jo-erlend> but shouldn't it have a button like close, minimize and maximize? | |
| [22:25] <jcastro> it does in the title bar thing | |
| [22:25] <jcastro> (from the screenshot I am looking at, I haven't tried it) | |
| [22:25] <jcastro> http://cdn.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/LIM-flair-asset.png | |
| [22:25] <jo-erlend> I'm looking at that screenshot too. I'm thinking that doesn't look like an actionable widget. | |
| [22:25] <jo-erlend> might be difficult to discover. | |
| [22:25] <jcastro> oh I see what you mean | |
| [22:28] <jcastro> assuming the final one makes that discoverable, shrug | |
| [22:28] <jcastro> I didn't like the disappearing menu that much | |
| [22:28] <jcastro> I suspect I will be heavily using the hud for the few times I use the menu anyway | |
| [22:35] <jcastro> jo-erlend: this will be excellent | |
| [22:35] <jcastro> now the people who hate the global menu will like this | |
| [22:35] <jcastro> and now we'll get flamed by the people who liked the global menu | |
| [22:35] <jcastro> we need to cover all the bases! | |
| [22:36] <jo-erlend> I really _love_ the fact that the menubar is hidden. This seems to be mostly perfect. When maximized, it should be hidden until the window controls are displayed on hover. On non-maximized windows, it should be visible all the time, since the window controls are anyway. One more button won't add much clutter. | |
| [22:37] <jo-erlend> jcastro, "So many clicks! Horizontal is better!" :) | |
| [22:41] <jcastro> yeah I thought LIM would just be the menu showing up on the titlebar when the app is unmaximized. | |
| [22:41] <jcastro> but whatever, this looks better I think | |
| [22:49] <jono> back soon, heading to the coffee shop | |
| [22:50] <mhall119> jo-erlend: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-team-portal/fix-globalevent-count/+register-merge | |
| [22:50] <mhall119> whoops, was for jono | |
| [22:50] <mhall119> but he's already left, so tab-fail | |
| [22:50] <jo-erlend> yes, I got a little confused there, for a moment. :) | |
| [22:50] <jcastro> hey mhall119 | |
| [22:50] <jcastro> is that local menu thing in the unity queue? | |
| [22:50] * jcastro debates switching back to the staging ppa | |
| [22:50] <mhall119> depends, what do yu mean by 'local menu thing'? | |
| [22:51] <mhall119> jcastro: the thing OMG had up? | |
| [22:51] <jcastro> yeah | |
| [22:51] <mhall119> I don't think those branches have landed yet | |
| [22:52] <mhall119> I don't know if staging ppa builds from trunk or some other branch though | |
| [22:53] <jcastro> I think it's trunk | |
| [22:53] <jcastro> well, I notice the PPA fires off when new stuff hits trunk | |
| [22:53] <jcastro> but that just might be coincidence for all I know | |
| [22:57] <AlanBell> surprised global menu and lim thing don't look like launcher quicklists | |
| [22:58] <AlanBell> I wonder if launcher quicklists could *be* the menu, they are just dbusmenuitems | |
| [23:01] <AlanBell> no, they are not hierarchical. Shame. | |
| [23:07] <mhall119> AlanBell: they are also per-app, not per-window | |
| [23:08] <mhall119> they might work for the new Gnome AppMenu though | |
| [23:16] <AlanBell> mhall119: yeah, but the active window is the only one of an app-group with a useful menu | |
| [23:17] <AlanBell> if the quicklists were hierachical and exposed the menu of the top-most window of the application they would be quite interesting | |
| [23:18] <AlanBell> did you try my window quicklists? | |
| [23:19] <mhall119> AlanBell: the new Gnome Application Menu is going to let app developers define one menu for the application itself, not just per-window | |
| [23:19] <mhall119> I think that's coming in Gnome 3.4 | |
| [23:20] <mhall119> AlanBell: http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/Features/ApplicationMenu | |
| [23:21] <AlanBell> interesting, would be nice to pin that to the launcher on a per-application basis | |
| [23:21] <AlanBell> then you could operate the menus of all your applications, without changing window focus if you don't want to | |
| [23:22] <AlanBell> this might be a feature that the design team won't approve of | |
| [23:23] <AlanBell> anyhow, window quicklists are nice. http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/quicklists.py | |
| [23:26] <jo-erlend> where is this implemented? I mean, will it have to be hardcoded into Unity or something, or can it be implemented using plugins? It would be very nice, I think, if you could install different menu styles. That way, people could experiment much more with different styles, which might make it easier to find something awesome that really works well. | |
| [23:49] <mhall119> jo-erlend: Gnome exports it over dbus, iirc | |
| [23:49] <mhall119> not exactly like Unity does, but similar idea | |