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[03:11] <Adola> Hello? |
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[03:15] <Adola> Can someone PLEASE help meh? |
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[05:38] <kes0> Halå varför banna mig i ubuntu-se ? |
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[10:12] <polatov> i am sorry |
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[10:12] <bazhang> polatov, #ubuntu-women ??? |
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[10:12] <Myrtti> what are you up to again? |
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[10:12] <polatov> but |
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[10:12] <bazhang> no but |
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[10:13] <bazhang> you were warned not to go there |
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[10:13] <polatov> do you spek russian? |
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[10:13] <bazhang> yes |
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[10:13] <polatov> can i speak on russian? |
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[10:13] <bazhang> yes |
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[10:13] <polatov> я не призывал чтобы все шли туда |
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[10:14] <polatov> я сказал что ubuntu становится mainstream |
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[10:14] <polatov> Nastya сказала, что mainstream это когда женщины будут пользоваться ubuntu |
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[10:14] <polatov> ясказал что уже есть канал ubuntu-women |
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[10:14] <polatov> я сказал что уже есть канал ubuntu-women |
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[10:15] <polatov> it is all |
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[10:15] <bazhang> Вы были предупреждены, не идти туда |
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[10:15] <polatov> bazhang, я не ходил туда! |
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[10:15] <polatov> посмотрите logs |
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[10:15] <Myrtti> we have a web page you know |
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[10:15] <Myrtti> you need not to mention the channel |
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[10:15] <bazhang> polatov, I can read russian. |
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[10:16] <polatov> Myrtti, look logs please |
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[10:16] <Myrtti> polatov: [12:14] < polatov> я сказал что уже есть канал ubuntu-women |
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[10:16] <polatov> bazhang, я не ходил на этот канал, был там только один раз |
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[10:16] <Myrtti> you don't need to mention the #ubuntu-women channel |
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[10:16] <Myrtti> we have webpages |
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[10:17] <bazhang> polatov, dont go there, dont talk about others going there. |
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[10:17] <polatov> bazhang, ok |
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[10:17] <polatov> but why i can not speak about this channel? |
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[10:17] <bazhang> не туда |
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[10:18] <polatov> what is "mention"? |
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[10:18] <elkbuntu> polatov, i think Myrtti want you to go read website, rather than talk about bad things in irc |
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[10:18] <bazhang> не собираюсь говорить о там |
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[10:18] <bazhang> if you do, that is +b |
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[10:18] <polatov> я не говорил bads things! |
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[10:19] <polatov> я не говорил bad things! |
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[10:19] <bazhang> не претендую. Вы плохие вещи перед |
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[10:19] <polatov> я говорил что linux становится очень популярным, и это очень плохо! |
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[10:20] <polatov> пользователь Nastya сказала, что он еще не такой популярный, потому что мало женщин его используют |
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[10:20] <bazhang> У вас нет оснований ехать туда никогда. |
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[10:20] <polatov> bazhang, я не ходил туда! |
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[10:20] <polatov> я сказал пользователю Nastya что уже есть женский канал! |
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[10:21] <polatov> вы меня не понимаете! ((( |
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[10:21] <bazhang> сексуальные домогательства никогда OK |
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[10:21] <polatov> you don't understand me! |
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[10:21] <bazhang> I do. |
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[10:21] <bazhang> You |
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[10:21] <bazhang> KukMan |
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[10:21] <bazhang> Zloy |
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[10:21] <polatov> bazhang, я не домогался сексуально! |
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[10:21] <polatov> почему вы такое говорите?! |
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[10:22] <polatov> единственное за что вы меня можете to ban - только за flood |
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[10:22] <bazhang> Вы думаете это смешно шутить. |
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[10:22] <polatov> i am flood - it is so |
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[10:22] <polatov> bazhang, я не шучу! |
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[10:22] <polatov> ok |
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[10:22] <polatov> you can not unban me? |
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[10:23] <bazhang> женщины там не думаю, что это забавно и приятно. |
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[10:23] <polatov> bazhang, когда меня предупредили, я не заходил на тот канал |
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[10:23] <polatov> разве это не так?! |
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[10:23] <bazhang> они ненавидят его. |
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[10:24] <polatov> bazhang, ответьте на мой вопрос пожалуйста |
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[10:24] <polatov> разве я заходил на женский канал второй раз? |
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[10:25] <bazhang> Вы zloy и kukman думаю, что это смешно, чтобы перейти туда. |
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[10:25] <polatov> bazhang, разве я заходил на женский канал второй раз? |
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[10:26] <bazhang> Это не смешно. Не на всех. |
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[10:26] <polatov> bazhang, please |
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[10:26] <bazhang> KukMan находится рядом. |
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[10:26] <polatov> say me |
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[10:26] <bazhang> zloy +b |
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[10:26] <bazhang> you +b |
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[10:27] <bazhang> KukMan soon +b |
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[10:27] <polatov> i was on women channel second time? |
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[10:27] <bazhang> mau_ +b |
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[10:27] <bazhang> everyone who goes there will be +b |
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[10:28] <bazhang> dont go there. |
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[10:28] <polatov> i don't want to be on that channel |
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[10:28] <bazhang> YOU have NO reason to go there, ever. |
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[10:28] <polatov> i dont say bad things about that channel |
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[10:28] <bazhang> dont talk about that channel |
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[10:28] <Myrtti> polatov: don't say about it at all |
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[10:29] <Myrtti> polatov: we have webpages |
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[10:29] <Myrtti> http://ubuntu-women.org/ |
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[10:29] <polatov> i saidbad things about all linux distro!!!! |
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[10:29] <Myrtti> if you are discussing about ubuntu and women, use that link |
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[10:29] <bazhang> не говорим о том, что канал |
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[10:29] <polatov> Nastya ask me - why? |
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[10:29] <polatov> i said |
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[10:29] <Myrtti> you don't need to say a thing about #ubuntu-women irc channel |
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[10:30] <bazhang> you can private message her. |
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[10:30] <polatov> "because it is mainstream" |
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[10:30] <bazhang> сексуальные домогательства не OK |
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[10:30] <polatov> nastya said me |
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[10:31] <bazhang> говорят анекдоты о сексе не OK |
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[10:31] <polatov> mainstream will be if linux use women |
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[10:31] <bazhang> that is +b |
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[10:31] <elkbuntu> polatov, saying bad things breaks code of conduct. |
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[10:31] <elkbuntu> !codeofconduct |
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[10:31] <ubottu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ |
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[10:31] <bazhang> polatov, stop now. |
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[10:31] <polatov> i said we have women channel |
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[10:32] <Myrtti> why?! |
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[10:32] <Myrtti> you don't need to say it |
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[10:32] <bazhang> -ru-women |
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[10:32] <polatov> Myrtti, why? where is rules? |
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[10:32] <polatov> that rule?!! |
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[10:33] <bazhang> не спорить об этом |
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[10:33] <bazhang> +b will be longer. |
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[10:33] <polatov> where is that rule where written about women-channel |
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[10:33] <polatov> bazhang, OK |
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[10:33] <bazhang> polatov, stop. |
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[10:33] <bazhang> dont argue about this any more. |
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[10:33] <polatov> я не буду об этом спорить |
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[10:34] <polatov> я не буду говорить об этом канале даже своей маме |
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[10:34] <Myrtti> polatov: this not a rule |
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[10:34] <Myrtti> polatov: it's a polite request |
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[10:34] <Myrtti> polatov: please do not mention #ubuntu-women on any channels. |
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[10:34] <polatov> but i think your ban it is not right |
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[10:34] <Myrtti> polatov: if someone wants to join the channel, they'll find it themself |
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[10:34] <polatov> Myrtti, what is "mention"? |
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[10:34] <bazhang> Это особая ситуация, потому что от сексуальных домогательств |
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[10:35] <polatov> bazhang, я понял, я согласен. это правильно |
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[10:35] <Myrtti> polatov: упомянуть |
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[10:35] <polatov> bazhang, но прежде чем to ban me, вы должны были меня предупредить, чтобы я не говорил об этом канале |
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[10:36] <polatov> Myrtti, thank you |
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[10:36] <Myrtti> --> bbl |
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[10:36] <polatov> Myrtti, bbl? |
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[10:37] <Myrtti> be back later |
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[10:37] <polatov> and what about me? |
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[10:39] <bazhang> не возвращаться к этому каналу |
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[10:39] <polatov> bazhang, и не говорить, правильно? |
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[10:39] <bazhang> никогда туда |
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[10:39] <bazhang> no. |
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[10:40] <bazhang> #ubuntu-women |
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[10:40] <polatov> and dont talk about women-channel |
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[10:40] <bazhang> correct |
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[10:40] <polatov> OK |
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[10:40] <polatov> no problem |
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[10:40] <bazhang> tell them DONT GO THERE |
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[10:40] <bazhang> or will be +b |
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[10:40] <polatov> bazhang, ok |
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[10:41] <polatov> but you when you banned me |
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[10:41] <polatov> it was not right ( |
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[10:41] <polatov> не было предупреждение |
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[10:41] <polatov> bazhang, i am tell them DONT GO THERE |
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[10:41] <bazhang> Вы понимаете полностью сейчас? |
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[10:41] <polatov> no problem |
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[10:42] <polatov> bazhang, yes |
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[10:42] <polatov> i am understand you |
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[10:42] <polatov> now |
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[10:42] <bazhang> не недоразумение? |
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[10:42] <bazhang> you go there = +b |
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[10:43] <polatov> yes |
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[10:43] <bazhang> OK |
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[10:43] <bazhang> последний шанс |
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[10:43] <polatov> stop! |
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[10:43] <polatov> please |
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[10:43] <bazhang> next time is no -b |
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[10:44] <polatov> i am sorry, but i think |
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[10:44] <polatov> your ban is not correctly |
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[10:44] <polatov> your must to ПРЕДУПРЕДИТЬ me, then ban |
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[10:45] <bazhang> Я даю вам последний шанс. |
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[10:45] <polatov> bazhang, я считаю вы не правы |
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[10:45] <polatov> вы говорите как Stalin |
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[10:46] <bazhang> После этого, постоянные |
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[10:46] <bazhang> no. |
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[10:46] <bazhang> now is last chance. |
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[10:46] <bazhang> any more problems after now, is permanent. |
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[10:46] <polatov> bazhang, я обещаю не говорить об этом канале |
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[10:46] <polatov> не говорить плохо об этом канале, etc |
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[10:47] <polatov> я обещаю вести себя как good boy |
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[10:47] <polatov> но это не правильно "last chance" |
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[10:47] <polatov> это нарушает мои права |
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[10:47] <bazhang> ok |
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[10:47] <polatov> нельзя так говорить |
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[10:48] <bazhang> you are now able to /join |
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[10:48] <polatov> можно быть ВЕЖЛИВЫМ |
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[10:48] <polatov> спасибо |
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[10:48] <polatov> thank you |
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[14:57] <[NikO]> LjL, ping :) |
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[15:42] <LjL> [NikO]: pong |
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[15:42] <[NikO]> LjL, sorry for hl ... |
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[16:03] <LjL> kennethgt: i know who magicfab is. i'm just saying that typing "/whois magicfab" will show that he's online |
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[16:03] <LjL> typing "/whois magicfab magicfab" will also show that he's currently active |
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[16:04] <LjL> and typing "/query magicfab" will let you send messages to him |
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[16:04] <LjL> no need to ask in #ubuntu whether someone has seen him |
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[16:04] <kennethgt> LjL, thanks |
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[16:05] <kennethgt> LjL, excuse the inconvenience |
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[16:05] <LjL> no problem |
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[16:07] <Myrtti> I feel so old and addicted to IRC |
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[16:12] <bazhang> Escsun, _kamaz_ was in #ubuntu-women today, after being told not to go there |
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[16:13] <bazhang> Escsun, he was warned that it would be +b if he did so |
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[16:13] <Escsun> bazhang, aaa ban kamaz ? |
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[16:14] <Escsun> bazhang, -> _kamaz_2 |
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[16:14] <bazhang> Вы были предупреждены, не пойти на этот канал. _kamaz_2 |
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[16:15] <bazhang> _kamaz_ (n=faraonxg@91.196.7.26) has joined #ubuntu-women |
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[16:15] <bazhang> <_kamaz_> Здравствуйте о прекрасная половина человечества!!!! |
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[16:15] <bazhang> <_kamaz_> эээ.......меня кто нибудь слышит? |
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[16:16] <_kamaz_2> этого нельзя было делать? |
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[16:16] <Escsun> _kamaz_2, он по англиски говорит |
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[16:16] <bazhang> после того, как я предупреждал вас не идти |
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[16:17] <bazhang> одна неделя + B |
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[16:17] <_kamaz_2> не помню чтобы меня ктото предупреждал, но если это было запрещено то извиняюсь |
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[16:18] <bazhang> видеть вас на следующей неделе. мы можем говорить в то время. |
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[16:18] <Escsun> bazhang, но извенился так что прости ему ... |
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[16:19] <kennethgt> lol |
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[16:19] <bazhang> Escsun, anyone enters that channel is +b |
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[16:19] <_kamaz_2> ребят, да что я плохого сделал??? я никого не оскорбил, не обидел |
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[16:19] <Escsun> bazhang, a ... |
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[16:20] <bazhang> _kamaz_2, видеть вас на следующей неделе |
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[16:20] <_kamaz_2> ну на первый раз то можно же простить |
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[16:23] <A4Tech> hm.. And what I miss? |
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[16:23] <A4Tech> :) |
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[16:24] <JMS32> =) |
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[16:24] <bazhang> A4Tech, _kamaz_2 and all the rest were warned not to go into #ubuntu-women and harass the users there. |
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[16:25] <bazhang> A4Tech, but he did so anyway. |
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[16:25] <bazhang> A4Tech, it is a one week ban. |
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[16:25] <A4Tech> understand |
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[16:29] <mau_> <A4Tech Приветствую. Можете обьяснить, почему нельзя на тот канал заходить? Я не знаю, может принято во фринод-сети, что на русскоязычном канале оператор не говорит на русском, но не вижу взаимосвязи с заходом на один канал с вопросом "как дела?" и баном на д |
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[16:29] <mau_> ругом. |
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[16:29] <A4Tech> mau_ дело в том, что недавно был инцендент |
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[16:30] <A4Tech> и теперь лучше туда не заходить :) |
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[16:30] <Escsun> mau_, тот канал для девушек (#ubuntu-women) ,а так как там строго тока девушки туда и не надо даже заходить |
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[16:30] <mau_> а не девушкам-ли решать, кому заходить, кому нет?? |
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[16:31] <mau_> или в этой сети насратьт на общие правила ирк? |
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[16:31] <A4Tech> mau_ объясни это бажангу |
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[16:31] <Escsun> mau_, в каждом канале есть свои правила |
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[16:31] <mau_> <Escsun> это ясно. |
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[16:32] <mau_> <A4Tech> вот как ему обьяснить, если он не говорит на русском? |
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[16:32] <Escsun> mau_, по англиски |
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[16:32] <mau_> и почему он оператор на русском канале? |
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[16:33] <mau_> <Escsun> а если я не знаю английского на таком уровне? как, впрочем, большинство канала #ubuntu-ru |
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[16:33] <A4Tech> mau_ так |
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[16:33] <A4Tech> теперь слушай что я те говорю |
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[16:33] <A4Tech> и не перебивай |
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[16:33] <A4Tech> 1. это канал девушек |
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[16:34] <A4Tech> 2. недавно туда заходили люди и спамили |
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[16:34] <A4Tech> 3. некоторые получили бан на всем фриноде |
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[16:34] <A4Tech> 4. туда часто шляются спамить |
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[16:34] <A4Tech> 5. туда часто шляются спамить и не только туда именно блин с нашего канала |
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[16:35] <A4Tech> 6. поэтому администрация фриноды сделаит на нашим каналом |
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[16:35] <A4Tech> 7. не стоит спорить с ними |
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[16:35] <JMS32> повтори 6ой пункт... |
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[16:36] <A4Tech> следит |
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[16:36] <A4Tech> ) |
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[16:36] <JMS32> ок =) |
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[16:38] <mau_> понял, в чём виноват был я, когда схватил бан без предупреждения? Почему нет предупреждения в топиках обоих каналов?? Почему меня банит человек, который не разобрался в ситуации, но мотивирует это 'сэксуальным домогательством', хотя я, зайдя на канал, ни |
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[16:38] <mau_> слова не написал и вышел?? Почему бан я не могу писать в канал, хотя бан снят, но * #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel (с) ? |
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[16:38] <A4Tech> бан на убунту ру не снят) |
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[16:39] <mau_> <bazhang> you can /join #ubuntu-ru |
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[16:39] <mau_> <bazhang> you are -b now |
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[16:39] <mau_> <mau_> спасибо |
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[16:39] <mau_> из лога |
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[16:40] <A4Tech> бан - не снят |
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[16:40] <mau_> а как обьяснить лог тогда?? |
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[16:40] <A4Tech> bazhang, you not unban mau_ |
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[16:40] <bazhang> A4Tech, yes I did |
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[16:41] <bazhang> A4Tech, he is in there now. |
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[16:41] <A4Tech> bazhang why is it I said that you removed? |
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[16:41] <bazhang> A4Tech, he did not know the situation. |
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[16:41] <bazhang> A4Tech, so it was my error. |
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[16:42] <bazhang> A4Tech, he did not spam there. |
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[16:42] <mau_> ладно, разбирайтесь сами.. |
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[16:43] <bazhang> <dmay> question is we want create channel 'ubuntu-blackjack-and-hookers |
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[16:43] <A4Tech> bandzai_, Let us agree with you that in such cases will call me rather than the court itself |
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[16:44] <A4Tech> still it is Russian channel |
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[16:44] <A4Tech> oh... sorry |
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[16:44] <A4Tech> bazhang ^ |
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[16:44] <bazhang> A4Tech, call you? you were not around. |
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[16:45] <A4Tech> I did not have the channel? |
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[16:45] <bazhang> you were not in the channel at that time, no. |
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[16:45] <bazhang> there were NO operators in that channel except me. |
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[16:46] <bazhang> going into -women and spamming/making sex jokes is NEVER ok. |
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[16:46] <bazhang> and the users in -ru need to understand this clearly. |
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[16:48] <bazhang> сексуальные домогательства никогда OK |
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[16:48] <A4Tech> Well then for the future, the first thing to call me or anyone out of the operators of the channel, we do explain that they do. I think your task in the event of a conflict ban them on the channel where they behave badly, and then tell us |
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[16:48] <A4Tech> bazhang I understand you |
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[16:48] <bazhang> I am not an operator in -women |
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[16:48] <bazhang> I am in -ru |
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[16:49] <bazhang> they have been told several times not to do that. |
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[16:49] <A4Tech> Then call gary |
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[16:50] <bazhang> zloy, and KuKman think it is a funny joke still. |
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[16:50] <bazhang> and that they did nothing wrong. |
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[16:50] <A4Tech> Yes, they understand |
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[16:50] <bazhang> polatov has agreed not to return, and understands what he did is wrong. |
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[16:50] <bazhang> no. |
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[16:50] <bazhang> they are still talking like it is a funny joke. |
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[16:51] <A4Tech> but not on our same channel |
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[16:51] <A4Tech> to solve problems where they are |
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[16:51] <LjL> no, using an #ubuntu* channel for harassing another channel is not acceptable. the operators of that channel must make that very clear. |
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[16:53] <A4Tech> understand, I do not like the operator of all channels |
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[16:53] <bazhang> A4Tech, the problems are from -ru; they have not been taken care of there. |
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[16:53] <bazhang> it happened again TODAY. |
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[16:53] <LjL> это не приемлемо для использования Ubuntu канал преследовать другого канала. Это является обязанностью операторов, чтобы остановить, что поведение, когда они заметили. |
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[16:54] <bazhang> after repeated warnings. |
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[16:55] <A4Tech> |
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[16:55] <A4Tech> just if people on our channel behaves correctly, I do not see the logic block it wherever we can |
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[16:55] <LjL> if people on your channel talk about trolling another channel, that must be stopped. |
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[16:56] <A4Tech> stop it where it violates rules |
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[16:56] <bazhang> in -ru |
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[16:56] <bazhang> that is where it violates rules. |
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[16:56] <A4Tech> I prevent breaches on the canal ubuntu-ru |
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[16:56] <LjL> saying |
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[16:56] <bazhang> planning on attacking another channel comes from -ru |
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[16:56] <LjL> "let's go troll another channel" |
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[16:57] <LjL> violates rules. |
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[16:57] <bazhang> A4Tech, planning in -ru is a breach in -ru |
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[16:57] <A4Tech> bazhang I have these people immediately blocked |
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[16:58] <A4Tech> where you have the information that the zone ru in the entire blame? |
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[16:58] <A4Tech> you translate what people write? |
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[16:59] <bazhang> A4Tech, why did those users go into -women and make those comments? and then joke about it as it was happening and afterwards? |
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[17:00] <A4Tech> I myself went out there for one name |
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[17:00] <bazhang> KukMan changing his name to KukWoman as he was asking to be unbanned? |
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[17:00] <A4Tech> Girls and linux strange things:) |
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[17:00] <bazhang> its not funny. |
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[17:01] <A4Tech> I am not talking about kukman |
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[17:01] <bazhang> <A4Tech> Girls and linux strange things:) <--not funny |
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[17:02] <A4Tech> personally for me strange that girls are attracted to linux |
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[17:03] <A4Tech> and for the sake of interest, too, have talked with them |
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[17:03] <Myrtti> personally for me strange that little boys are attracted to linux |
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[17:03] <Myrtti> little boys obviously, since they don't know how to behave |
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[17:03] <A4Tech> Myrtti I am for them not to answer |
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[17:04] <bazhang> right. which I need to take action there. |
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[17:05] <Myrtti> no really, we should all be using Windows |
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[17:05] <Myrtti> Linux is this marginal thing that strange people use |
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[17:05] <Myrtti> it's really ridiculous |
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[17:05] <Myrtti> What does Linux have that Windows doesn't? |
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[17:05] <Myrtti> silly |
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[17:06] <Myrtti> or Macs for that matter! |
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[17:06] <A4Tech> Myrtti I ubuntu in 1000 times better windows |
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[17:07] <Myrtti> A4Tech: feel free to see the light why women are attracted to Linux |
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[17:07] <Myrtti> TADAH! |
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[17:08] <A4Tech> Well, yes, it was good. but for me personally is a great rarity |
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[17:09] <Myrtti> let me put it this way. There's some very precious flowers, that are protected, their place of growth is held as a secret by authorities so nobody goes to gawk at the plant, tear it from the roots, stomp the surroundings and kill the plant |
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[17:09] <Myrtti> beautiful orchids, deep inside rainforests. |
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[17:10] <A4Tech> I hope me something to interest you can go to the channel? certainly not start talking about acquaintance, etc. =) |
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[17:10] <Myrtti> if the plant is left alone, it has a chance to grow, to pollinate, to spread |
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[17:11] <A4Tech> Myrtti oO |
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[17:11] <Myrtti> those who are genuinely intrested, will find their way in, learn about the plant first from books, webpages etc |
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[17:11] <Myrtti> and not go poking in, shouting, jumping, breaking the rules |
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[17:12] <Myrtti> I'm not saying it's forbidden to go look, to talk, to help the plant grow and spread |
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[17:12] <Myrtti> but it has to be done carefully. |
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[17:13] <Myrtti> Sadly, doing it the right way seems to be really really difficult for most |
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[17:13] <A4Tech> You speaker? =) |
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[17:14] <A4Tech> you have a question, as if reading from a sheet =) |
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[17:14] <Myrtti> question? |
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[17:14] <A4Tech> no.. |
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[17:15] <A4Tech> speak |
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[17:15] <A4Tech> fu*ng translate.google.ru =) |
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[17:16] <Myrtti> no, it's not a speech, I'm just trying to explain it to you as simply as I can |
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[17:16] <A4Tech> you get =) |
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[17:17] <A4Tech> If you are using simpler words in his conversation |
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[17:17] <A4Tech> it would be easier to talk:) |
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[17:18] <Myrtti> A4Tech: if you don't know how to speak English, you have no business in #ubuntu-women anyway. |
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[17:18] <Myrtti> A4Tech: it's an English-speaking channel |
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[17:18] <Myrtti> A4Tech: the people there don't want to be treated like animals in a zoo. |
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[17:19] <A4Tech> what in English is itself |
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[17:20] <^A^kira> Myrtti: excuse me for interruption but... u treat animals in a zoo? Doesn't it mean to do that? O.o |
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[17:21] <Myrtti> ^A^kira: zoo's aren't actually meant to be places for animal exhibition |
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[17:21] <Myrtti> ^A^kira: they're ment to preserve animal species |
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[17:21] <Myrtti> atleast nowadays |
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[17:22] <Myrtti> ^A^kira: treated like animals in a zoo = people come to eat peanuts, point at finger, look at gaged animals |
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[17:22] <Pici> s/gaged/caged/ |
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[17:22] <A4Tech> =))) |
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[17:22] <^A^kira> huh, thats not treating... thats only a show for a ppl |
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[17:22] <A4Tech> this is all for education first and foremost |
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[17:23] <bazhang> ^A^kira, are you an operator in ubuntu-ru? |
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[17:23] <Myrtti> Pici: thanks, my mom is just calling |
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[17:23] <Myrtti> Pici: she has gotten a CAT... |
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[17:23] <Myrtti> o___O |
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[17:23] <^A^kira> bazhang: no, im just curious cuz i worried about what happens in thats channel |
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[17:23] <Pici> Myrtti: Guess she can't babysit the cavys anymore then, right? |
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[17:24] <^A^kira> in ubuntu-ru i mean |
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[17:24] <Myrtti> Pici: they're in their cage anyway |
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[17:25] <bazhang> it seems all of -ru is joining here |
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[17:25] <JMS32> =) |
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[17:25] <^A^kira> not all, only who knows english and care about th channel |
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[17:25] <^A^kira> xD |
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[17:25] <JMS32> Right =) |
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[17:26] <bazhang> сексуальные домогательства никогда OK |
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[17:26] <^A^kira> bazhang: huh? |
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[17:26] <A4Tech> bazhang curiosity =) |
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[17:26] <^A^kira> O.o |
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[17:26] <JMS32> ты о чем? |
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[17:26] <bazhang> users in -ru |
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[17:28] <^A^kira> what exactly do u mean when u say "sexual harassment is never good" |
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[17:28] <^A^kira> ? |
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[17:28] <bazhang> that is what users from -ru were doing. |
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[17:29] <A4Tech> ^A^kira до бап наши добрались) |
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[17:29] <^A^kira> A4Tech: до их бап? О,о |
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[17:29] <A4Tech> ^A^kira да, до америкосских |
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[17:29] <A4Tech> ^A^kira знакомства секс и т.д. |
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[17:30] <A4Tech> ^A^kira куча народу забанено уже из за этого |
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[17:30] <^A^kira> bazhang: you know, here is the difference between russian and american mentality (and european) |
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[17:30] <bazhang> does not matter. |
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[17:30] <JMS32> and? |
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[17:30] <^A^kira> the stuff u call "sexual harassment" for us it's not more than a small talk |
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[17:30] <bazhang> and that is the problem. |
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[17:31] <Myrtti> it's not a place for small talk! |
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[17:31] <^A^kira> ofcourse im not speaking about "hey babe lets fu&k"... thats kind of ppl not pleased nevermatter where |
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[17:31] <bazhang> this is NOT about free speech |
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[17:31] <Myrtti> 1) if you don't know English, don't go there |
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[17:31] <A4Tech> bazhang it is simply because we perceive you to another |
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[17:31] <Pici> Different cultures have different expectations, and all of us need to be aware of that. |
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[17:31] <Myrtti> 2) if you don't have anything productive to say there, don't go there |
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[17:32] <^A^kira> Pici: u right |
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[17:32] <bazhang> dont make those jokes there. |
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[17:32] <bazhang> its not funny. |
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[17:32] <JMS32> Нашли повод ругаться, блин... |
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[17:32] <[Green]> ниачем |
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[17:33] <JMS32> Вот и я о том же. |
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[17:33] <^A^kira> well... my opinion - we should be polite to each other |
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[17:33] <JMS32> Yes, you are absolutly right. |
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[17:33] <^A^kira> not to kick/ban every1 just for what they say |
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[17:33] <bazhang> yep |
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[17:33] <^A^kira> explain ONCE |
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[17:34] <^A^kira> no need for more |
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[17:34] <bazhang> and that means dont go in there and make that kind of 'small talk' |
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[17:34] <^A^kira> and if it doesn't help - kill it |
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[17:34] <^A^kira> err... i mean kick him :) |
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[17:34] <bazhang> it has been explained several times. |
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[17:34] <^A^kira> bazhang: good for me, i'll pass it for -ru channel |
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[17:34] <bazhang> and immediately after the last time, someone went in there and did just that. |
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[17:34] <bazhang> TODAY |
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[17:35] <Myrtti> it's not a place for small talk. It's a place for making more women to use and to develop Ubuntu |
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[17:35] <Myrtti> and helping them in that |
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[17:35] <Myrtti> by women |
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[17:35] <Myrtti> for women |
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[17:35] <bazhang> and not a place to harass the users. |
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[17:35] <bazhang> and please dont say that you consider that small talk. |
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[17:35] <bazhang> THEY DONT |
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[17:36] <Myrtti> hey, there's a thought |
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[17:36] <^A^kira> well i didn't see the logs |
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[17:36] <^A^kira> i just heard stuff from our ppl |
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[17:36] <Myrtti> it's not about the cultural difference of what Russians expect the discussion in IRC to be |
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[17:36] <Myrtti> it's about what the people in the channel in question expect it to be |
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[17:36] <Myrtti> if they say they don't want it there, then they don't. |
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[17:37] <Myrtti> it's not a matter of discussion. |
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[17:38] <^A^kira> well... u know if u want to make the channel more organized and prevent "harass" u can make it moderated and deVoice the ones who interupts.... but anywhay it's not right to kill line to users |
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[17:38] <^A^kira> or kick/ban |
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[17:38] <bazhang> that was for repeated ban evading |
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[17:39] <bazhang> zloy |
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[17:39] <LjL> they will kick/ban, don't worry. |
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[17:39] <^A^kira> im not |
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[17:39] <LjL> on the #ubuntu-ru side, however, #ubuntu-ru as a whole should NOT encourage, suggest, endorse or just keep talking about messing with another channel. |
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[17:39] <Myrtti> ANY channel |
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[17:39] <^A^kira> and zloy its another story... have nothing to tell for his defence |
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[17:40] <bazhang> he was k-lined |
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[17:40] <bazhang> and that was freenode decision. |
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[17:40] <^A^kira> bazhang: i heard that not only he was |
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[17:40] <^A^kira> ? |
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[17:40] <bazhang> who else |
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[17:40] <^A^kira> that's what im trying to understand now |
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[17:40] <bazhang> kukMan? |
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[17:41] <^A^kira> .... you killed lined of KukMan too? o.o |
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[17:41] <bazhang> not me. |
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[17:41] <^A^kira> why? what have he done? |
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[17:41] <bazhang> and I dont know if he was k-lined or not |
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[17:41] <LjL> "we" don't k-line anybody. |
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[17:41] <LjL> freenode does. |
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[17:42] <^A^kira> well freenode it's not AI u know |
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[17:42] <LjL> we aren't freenode. |
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[17:42] <LjL> we are the ubuntu irc team. |
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[17:42] <bazhang> kukman was part of the original group |
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[17:42] <^A^kira> i know |
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[17:42] <^A^kira> well i'll speak with -ru OPs bout' that |
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[17:42] <bazhang> they know |
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[17:43] <^A^kira> well, ill do it again :) |
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[17:43] <^A^kira> now plz excuse me, i've got to go |
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[17:43] <Myrtti> thanks |
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[17:43] <^A^kira> it was nice to talk to you, we'll try to do the best |
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[18:42] <mau_> так....бан не сняли |
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[18:42] <Escsun> mau_, думаешь снимут спрашуй на скока срок |
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[18:43] <mau_> я не понял, за чё |
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[18:44] <mau_> да и вот полный лог |
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[18:44] <mau_> <bazhang> #ubuntu-women |
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[18:44] <mau_> <bazhang> y? |
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[18:44] <mau_> <mau_> 7 |
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[18:44] <mau_> * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) |
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[18:44] <mau_> <mau_> *? |
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[18:44] <mau_> * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) |
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[18:44] <mau_> <mau_> я не понял, что ты этим имел ввиду |
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[18:44] <mau_> * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) |
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[18:44] <mau_> <bazhang> Вы были предупреждены, не идти туда |
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[18:44] <mau_> <mau_> ээ...ну я воспринял как шутку. на сколько бан? |
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[18:44] <mau_> * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) |
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[18:44] <mau_> <mau_> я дождусь ответа на вопрос? |
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[18:44] <mau_> * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) |
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[18:44] <mau_> <bazhang> Это особая ситуация, потому что от сексуальных домогательств |
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[18:44] <mau_> <mau_> если Настя предьявит претензию, то согласен на бан. |
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[18:44] <mau_> * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) |
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[18:44] <mau_> <bazhang> не возвращаться к этому каналу |
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[18:44] <mau_> <mau_> ок |
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[18:44] <Escsun> блин ты мог не сюда( |
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[18:44] <Escsun> ппц |
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[18:44] <mau_> * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) |
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[18:44] <mau_> <bazhang> KukMan, polatov, zloy |
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[18:44] <mau_> <bazhang> +b |
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[18:44] <mau_> <bazhang> you can /join #ubuntu-ru |
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[18:44] <mau_> <bazhang> you are -b now |
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[18:44] <mau_> <mau_> спасибо |
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[18:44] <mau_> * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) |
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[18:44] <mau_> |
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[18:44] <mau_> * Загружен протокол от Fri Dec 5 15:38:38 2008 |
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[18:44] <mau_> мм |
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[18:45] <mau_> прошу обратить внимание на это : <mau_> <bazhang> Это особая ситуация, потому что от сексуальных домогательств |
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[18:45] <mau_> <mau_> <mau_> если Настя предьявит претензию, то согласен на бан. |
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[18:45] <mau_> <mau_> * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) |
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[18:45] <mau_> <mau_> <bazhang> не возвращаться к этому каналу |
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[18:45] <mau_> <mau_> <mau_> ок |
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[18:45] <mau_> <mau_> * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) |
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[18:45] <mau_> <mau_> <bazhang> KukMan, polatov, zloy |
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[18:45] <mau_> <mau_> <bazhang> +b |
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[18:45] <mau_> <mau_> <bazhang> you can /join #ubuntu-ru |
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[18:45] <mau_> <Escsun> да, я знаю, что такое пестебин) |
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[18:46] <Escsun> ппц |
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[18:46] <Escsun> ты знаешь скока на флудил здесь? |
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[18:46] <LjL> what the |
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[18:46] <LjL> !pastebin |
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[18:46] <ubottu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) |
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[18:47] <mau_> <Myrtti> it's not about the cultural difference of what Russians expect the discussion in IRC to be |
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[18:47] <mau_> <Myrtti> 1) if you don't know English, don't go there |
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[18:47] <Myrtti> LOL WHAT? |
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[18:47] <mau_> нацизм?" |
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[18:48] <Myrtti> why are you pasting that here? |
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[18:48] <Myrtti> http://paste.ubuntu.com |
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[18:48] <Myrtti> kthxplz |
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[18:48] <Pici> mau_: The Ubuntu channels have rules, don't expect free speech everywhere. |
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[18:48] <mau_> <Myrtti> its not a english net |
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[18:49] <Myrtti> mau_: #ubuntu-women is English only channel |
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[18:49] <Pici> Just like #ubuntu is an english only channel. |
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[18:50] <mau_> <Pici> those topic must worning users |
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[18:50] <mau_> <Pici> what about #ubuntu-ru?? |
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[18:51] <Pici> mau_: *I* know thats a russian channel because of the country code. |
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[18:51] <Myrtti> [20:51] [freenode] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu-women] Welcome to Ubuntu Women. Please read our guidelines for use of this channel: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/IrcGuidelines |
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[18:52] <Myrtti> English, please |
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[18:52] <Myrtti> * |
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[18:52] <Myrtti> #ubuntu-women is an English language channel. If you speak in another language in #ubuntu-women, you will be redirected to the appropriate Ubuntu channels in other languages. |
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[18:52] <Pici> "#ubuntu-women is an English language channel. If you speak in another language in #ubuntu-women, you will be redirected to the appropriate Ubuntu channels in other languages. " |
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[18:52] <Pici> That too |
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[18:52] <Myrtti> that's what the chanserv gives when you join the channel |
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[18:52] <Pici> #ubuntu has a similar message in their topic and guidelines. |
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[18:52] <mau_> <Pici> why i had been baned on #ubuntu-ru? |
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[18:53] <mau_> #ubuntu-ru is a sister-chanel of #ubuntu-women???? |
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[18:53] <Pici> mau_: I think we got confused here, nevermind me. |
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[18:53] <Myrtti> I doubt Pici knows the answer since he's not an op there |
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[18:54] <Myrtti> mau_: 20:54] [freenode] ~~~ channels : #ubuntu-irc #ubuntu-ru-offtopic #ubuntu-ru |
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[18:54] <Myrtti> you don't seem to be banned? |
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[18:54] <mau_> #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel |
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[18:55] <Myrtti> I don't know then... |
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[18:55] <Myrtti> *shrug* |
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[18:55] <LjL> is muted |
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[18:55] <Myrtti> probably yes |
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[18:56] <mau_> ? |
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[18:56] <LjL> no not probably, is |
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[18:56] <Myrtti> LjL: I wouldn't know, I'm not on the channel... ;-) |
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[18:56] <LjL> Myrtti: /mode #ubuntu-ru b |
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[18:56] <Myrtti> wow |
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[18:57] <Myrtti> learn something new every day |
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[19:00] <Myrtti> or in my case, two new things |
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[19:02] <A4Tech> as a conversation? |
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[19:02] <Myrtti> ... ? |
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[19:04] <A4Tech> Oh, you look ban list? :) |
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[19:05] <Myrtti> didn't know you can look at it while not being on the channel |
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[19:06] <Myrtti> the other new thing I learned was that only blind can be official massagists in South Korea. |
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[19:06] <A4Tech> massagists is what? |
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[19:08] <Myrtti> массажистка |
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[19:09] <A4Tech> but what you have said? -- "the other new thing I learned was that only blind can be official massagists in South Korea." |
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[19:13] <Myrtti> just for... |
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[19:13] <Myrtti> ok |
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