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[00:13] <apachelogger> ScottK: our mission is to provide the best KDE desktop based on ubuntu AFAIK |
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[00:13] <apachelogger> I'd feel rather uncomfortable shipping GTK software where in most user's use cases ark would do as well |
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[00:28] <aleite> Hello guys@ |
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[00:28] <aleite> Do you know how to build kde on release mode? |
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[00:29] <aleite> Now, even if I put -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release, kde is built in debugfull mode |
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[00:31] <Jucato> small 'r'? as in =release? |
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[00:32] <aleite> Tried too... |
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[00:32] <aleite> didn't work |
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[04:11] <dread> heya |
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[04:11] <dread> why the crap is the damn ugly 'gwenview-kde3' preinstalled in kubuntu 8.10 beta ? |
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[04:12] <dread> i updated from 8.04 |
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[04:14] <dread> can anyone give me the default sources.list for 8.10 please? |
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[04:15] <dread> argh |
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[04:16] <dread> the new adept is messy... not showing up the packages from sources |
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[04:16] <Hobbsee> dread: well, for a start, gwenview-kde3 doesn't exist in ubuntu/kubuntu. |
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[04:16] <Hobbsee> secondly, be respectful if you actually want an answer. |
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[04:17] <Hobbsee> thirdly, default sources.list is probably a #kubuntu question. |
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[04:19] <dread> ok, very sorry T_T |
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[04:19] <dread> you guys rock ;-) |
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[04:38] <ScottK> apachelogger: I was thinking in addition, not instead of, but not a big deal. |
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[08:34] <hosein-mec> why there isnt default list of package in Adept 3 ?? there is only search function to see package ... ! |
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[10:05] <Salze> Hi. kdesudo "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel" does not give me any new packages. Will I get the same result (I should have gotten with this) by replacing hardy with intrepid in the sources.list? |
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[10:06] <Salze> Oh...forget it. |
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[10:06] * Salze feels ashamed |
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[10:06] <Salze> The upgrade button was hidden because the window was too small. |
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[10:14] <seaLne> why is 4.1.2 in hardy but not intrepid is it just beta freeze? |
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[10:17] <stdin> !info kdelibs5 intrepid | seaLne |
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[10:17] <ubottu> sealne: kdelibs5 (source: kde4libs): core libraries for all KDE 4 applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 9292 kB, installed size 25912 kB |
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[10:19] <seaLne> hmm so it should be? |
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[10:19] <stdin> well, that's what apt reports |
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[10:20] <seaLne> weird my system agrees didn't remember it installing |
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[10:20] <seaLne> :) |
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[10:20] <stdin> must have upgraded smoothly then :) |
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[10:21] * seaLne grins |
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[10:51] <DreadKnight> the beta has issue on my box |
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[10:51] <DreadKnight> but only the 64bit version |
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[10:52] <DreadKnight> i couldn't get x running at all |
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[10:52] <DreadKnight> intel GMA 950 video card |
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[10:52] <davmor2> DreadKnight: works here |
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[10:53] <DreadKnight> davmor2: installed from cd? |
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[10:53] <DreadKnight> i have Toshiba portege m405 |
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[10:53] <davmor2> DreadKnight: yeap both alt and live |
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[10:53] <DreadKnight> i upgraded a hardy install... heh |
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[10:53] <DreadKnight> only 32 bit worked |
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[12:12] <apachelogger> ~topic seperator | |
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[12:12] <kubotu> unknown command |
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[12:12] <apachelogger> -.- |
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[12:12] <apachelogger> ~help topic |
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[12:12] <kubotu> topic add(at)|prepend|del(ete)|replace|sep(arator)|learn|restore|clear|set|undo: manipulate the topic of the current channel; use topic <#channel> <command> for private addressing |
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[12:12] <apachelogger> ~topic sep | |
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[12:12] <kubotu> Topic separator set to | |
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[12:13] <apachelogger> ~topic add Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseSchedule |
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[12:13] <apachelogger> ~topic learn |
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[12:13] <kubotu> alright |
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[12:14] <Salze> I have a problem during the update from Hardy to Intrepid with the adept_manager installation procedure. |
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[12:14] <Salze> Unfortunately I cannot start konqueror, so I cannot use pastebin. |
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[12:14] <Salze> Anyone willing to try to help me in a query? |
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[12:14] <apachelogger> why can't you start konqueror? |
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[12:14] <Salze> I think because some parts have already been replaced. |
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[12:15] <Salze> But I'm not sure. |
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[12:15] <Salze> It says it cannot initiate http protocol. |
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[12:15] <apachelogger> Salze: can you paste to a file? |
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[12:16] <Salze> Yes. |
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[12:16] <apachelogger> Salze: do that |
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[12:16] <Salze> I have. |
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[12:16] <apachelogger> then wget http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/batpaste |
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[12:16] <apachelogger> ruby batpaste FILENAME |
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[12:17] <Salze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/53414/ |
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[12:17] <Salze> Thank you. |
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[12:19] <Salze> The installation process hangs (as far as I can tell). Any chance to get it running again? |
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[12:19] <apachelogger> Salze: how did you start the upgrade? |
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[12:19] <Salze> kdesudo ... |
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[12:19] <Salze> Don't remember exactly - I c&p from the webpage. |
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[12:20] <apachelogger> adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel maybe? |
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[12:20] <Salze> Yes. |
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[12:20] <apachelogger> hm |
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[12:20] <Salze> kdesudo (or something) in front of that. |
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[12:21] <apachelogger> Riddell: would that restart the upgrade if it has been aborted? |
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[12:21] <Salze> The window is still open - I just have the impression it waits for some input. |
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[12:21] <Salze> But I don't see any question. |
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[12:22] <Salze> It's stuck at "Configuring landscape-common |
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[12:23] <apachelogger> Salze: you will have to wait for Riddell, he knows about the upgrader |
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[12:23] <Salze> Ok. Thank you for your help! |
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[12:23] <apachelogger> You're welcome! |
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[12:29] <Salze> Just in case someone might be interested: I killed "/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/landscape-sysinfo". Now the installer continues to run. |
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[12:30] <apachelogger> Salze: it might happen again |
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[12:30] <Salze> Same error messages with bash_completion - although this time the installer continues to run. |
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[12:31] * apachelogger is wondering why it can't initialize the kde frontend for debconf |
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[12:31] <Salze> I don't know. I would suspect some essential kde files got updated already and are now incompatible. |
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[12:32] <Salze> [13:30] <apachelogger> Salze: it might happen again <- it did - several times already. But now it always continues to run. |
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[12:32] <Salze> Let's wait and see whether the system will be usable at the end. :-) |
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[12:32] <apachelogger> well, maybe debconf is locked |
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[12:33] <Salze> Wouldn't it then complain about locks instead of frontend? |
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[12:33] <Riddell> apachelogger: there is no kde frontend to debconf |
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[12:33] <Riddell> we should probably write one |
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[12:33] <apachelogger> Riddell: wasn't there some? |
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[12:33] <Riddell> there was for kde 3, not for kde 4 |
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[12:34] * apachelogger seems to remember that adept poped up with a kde dialog for debconf stuff |
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[12:34] <apachelogger> ah, I see |
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[12:34] <Salze> It did ask me once whether I want to keep or replace changes on some file. Was that debconf? |
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[12:35] <apachelogger> no, that was dpkg itself |
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[12:35] <apachelogger> Riddell: can you grant a FFe for powerdevil? |
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[12:35] <Salze> Ok. |
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[12:35] <Riddell> Salze: when your upgrade is done report a bug on update-manager noting where it got stuck and attach /usr/lob/dist-upgrade/* |
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[12:35] <apachelogger> s/lob/log |
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[12:35] <Riddell> apachelogger: if there's a good reason I could |
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[12:35] <Salze> Will do - at least if the system is useable at the end. *gg* |
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[12:35] <apachelogger> Riddell: it works better ;-) |
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[12:36] * apachelogger is wondering why drf doesn't keep a changelog -.- |
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[12:36] <Riddell> changelogs are hassle to keep |
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[12:37] <Riddell> apachelogger: yeah, go for it, I'll review the package before uploading |
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[12:38] <apachelogger> Riddell: do you want to upload or are you reviewing it before accepting the upload? |
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[12:38] <apachelogger> it's in universe, so I can upload :) |
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[12:39] <Salze> /usr/lob/dist-upgrade/* <- It's /var, right? |
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[12:40] <apachelogger> haha, awesome svn log http://paste.ubuntu.com/53418/ |
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[12:40] <stdin> /var/log/dist-upgrade |
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[12:42] <Salze> Ok, I managed to save that to my SD card, so that I will have it even if the system does not work after rebooting. |
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[12:54] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: apparently your ksmserver patch broke update-notifier-kde, clicking on the reboot icon brings up the shutdown dialog |
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[12:55] <JontheEchidna> bug 277380 |
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[12:55] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 277380 in kdebase-workspace "After installing updates in Adept and needing to restart, clicking on "restart" tray icon brings up dialog to shut down" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277380 |
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[13:00] <Tonio_> Riddell: is that too late to get kpackagekit in the archives ? |
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[13:00] <Tonio_> Riddell: 0.1 looks stable to get in universe imho |
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[13:00] <Riddell> apachelogger: go ahead and upload |
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[13:01] <Riddell> Tonio_: that's fine with me |
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[13:01] <Tonio_> Riddell: and since we'll probably consider it for jaunty.... why not getting it in... |
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[13:02] <Tonio_> Riddell: okay, I'll make the packages clean enough for the archives and upload to revu.... then ping to get revued |
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[13:02] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: mm, it probably just needs to call the correct numbers, unfortunately they're not well documented |
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[13:02] <apachelogger> Riddell: uploaded |
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[13:02] <Riddell> apachelogger: what happened to you and core-dev? |
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[13:04] <apachelogger> Riddell: rumor has it that apparently it got deferred |
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[13:04] <apachelogger> but since motu council does super secret channels I wouldn't know for sure :P |
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[13:04] <apachelogger> s/channels/meetings |
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[13:04] <apachelogger> ...in super secret channels though... |
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[13:38] <ScottK> It was still listed as a pending application in the meeting notes from the last meeting. |
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[13:45] <Riddell> ScottK: what's it blocked on? |
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[13:46] <ScottK> Riddell: Dunno. They just list pending applications in their call minutes, but don't say why they are still pending. |
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[13:49] <Riddell> poke nixternal |
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[13:49] <Riddell> presumably he needs to show up at a tech board meeting sometime |
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[14:16] <jtechidna> ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/53441/ |
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[14:16] <jtechidna> works for me (tm) |
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[14:18] <ScottK> jtechidna: I'm downloading the source from your PPA now. |
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[14:19] <jjesse> mroning |
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[14:19] <jtechidna> http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Woremar/tooltips.png |
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[14:21] <ScottK> jtechidna: Cool. Thanks. I'll build it and let you know how it works here. |
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[14:22] <jtechidna> ScottK: you're welcome. I learned a lot in the process |
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[14:24] <ScottK> jtechidna: I do think Riddell should review it before upload so unless he asks me to after looking at it, I don't think I should sponsor it. |
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[14:24] <jtechidna> yeah, def |
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[14:28] <rgreening> OMG.. that pic is awesome |
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[14:29] * rgreening wishes kde 4.2 was ready for intrepid |
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[14:29] <rgreening> come on Jaunty... |
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[14:30] * ScottK finds 4.1 quite exciting enough thank you very much. |
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[14:30] <rgreening> lol |
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[14:31] <rgreening> does anyone here know the Plasman API? I want to code a small app but was looking for someone to work with. |
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[14:32] <rgreening> s/Plasman/Plasma |
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[14:32] <rgreening> I miss my favorites applet... so I want to code one for Plasma... |
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[14:35] <sebas> rgreening: what do you need to know exactly? |
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[14:36] <rgreening> I haven't looked at Plasma before, so I was looking for someone who has to help out. |
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[14:36] <sebas> #plasma is usually helpful |
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[14:36] <rgreening> good idea |
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[14:36] <sebas> And there are lots of examples in KDE's svn |
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[14:36] * rgreening adds to auto-connect |
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[14:36] <sebas> You can start by modifying an existing plasmoids |
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[14:36] <sebas> -s |
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[14:37] <rgreening> true. does kdevelop support KDE4 and Plasmoid projects yet? |
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[14:37] <sebas> Dunno, I'm using kate+konsole usually |
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[14:37] <sebas> I *think* it does, but I'm not a 100% sure |
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[14:39] <Riddell> kdevelop is just a text editor too, it supports anything. it should come with KDE 4 templates. plasmoid templates probably not but you can start with any existing one |
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[14:39] * sebas nods at Riddell |
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[14:39] <Riddell> sebas: go nod in that other channel over there |
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[14:40] * rgreening installed kdevelop.. KDE4 projects folder... empty.. hrm |
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[14:41] <rgreening> Is there a python bindings support being done (or exist) for plasma yet? |
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[14:42] <rgreening> cause that would be easier :P |
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[14:42] <Riddell> python bindings are in playground/base/plasma but it didn't work last I tried |
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[14:42] <Riddell> will need kde 4.2 anyway |
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[14:42] <rgreening> ah |
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[14:45] <jtechidna> yeah, can't wait for 4.2 |
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[14:45] <jtechidna> I think I can wait for Jaunty though, Intrepid has been exciting |
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[14:46] <ScottK> Riddell: One problem I ran into when I upgraded was between kdelibs4-dev and kdelibs5-dev. I had kdegames-dev installed and it switched from *4 to *5 and they aren't coinstallable. I could sort it manually and probably so could most people who have -dev packages. Is it worth worrying about? |
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[14:48] <Riddell> ScottK: so apt got confused? |
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[14:49] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes. It couldn't upgrade kdegames-dev because that would have needed kdelibs4-dev removed. I think it's either 'not a big deal' or update-manager needs a special case for it. |
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[14:50] <ScottK> I replicated it do an upgrade of a chroot from hardy to intrepid, so it wasn't a one time oddity. |
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[14:56] <nixternal> good morning |
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[14:57] <Riddell> ScottK: I guess mvo is the person to ask about what the right thing to do is. there should be a right thing to do |
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[14:58] <nixternal> apachelogger: I already commented and gave you a +1 on your application correct? |
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[14:58] <ScottK> Riddell: OK. I'll ask him. |
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[14:58] <Riddell> ScottK: he might be on holiday today though, it's german group hug day |
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[14:59] <ScottK> OK. |
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[14:59] * ScottK adds to TODO. |
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[14:59] <Riddell> nixternal: yes but motu-council hasn't got any further |
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[14:59] <nixternal> hrmm, I don't know why...and I thought I was the one holding up processes due to me working, guess not |
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[15:02] <nixternal> argh, I can see this MC stuff is going to piss me off concerning you apachelogger |
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[15:02] <Riddell> nixternal: how so? |
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[15:03] <apachelogger> :/ |
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[15:03] <nixternal> because they waste no time pushing a Canonical employee through for core-dev, but hang up on apachelogger who has been in this community far longer than anyone else currently in the queue...they are doing the same with superm1 as well |
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[15:04] <ScottK> nixternal: superm1 is scheduled for the next tech board meeting. |
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[15:04] <nixternal> wtf |
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[15:04] * smarter is wondering what's happening with his motu application too :] |
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[15:04] * apachelogger is a 2nd class citzien himself |
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[15:04] <nixternal> good, I am glad mario got through then |
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[15:04] <nixternal> apachelogger: I agree :P |
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[15:04] <nixternal> I would lean more for 3rd class citizen with you though :p |
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[15:04] <ScottK> I think it's mostly MC people being busy. |
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[15:05] <nixternal> ScottK: I voted right away and I am never around |
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[15:05] <ScottK> Perhaps some people not sure what the right answer is and spend a long time navel gazing. |
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[15:05] <apachelogger> nixternal: then I should switch to xubuntu |
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[15:05] <nixternal> so it isn't the MC being busy |
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[15:05] <ScottK> nixternal: Others haven't voted. Dunno why. |
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[15:05] <nixternal> I come on for 15 minutes a day, I check my email once a week |
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[15:06] <nixternal> i should have voted -1 for apachelogger since he didn't even add me to his application |
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[15:07] <apachelogger> lol |
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[15:07] <apachelogger> nixternal: I still love you though |
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[15:07] <nixternal> sure you do |
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[15:08] * apachelogger had to browse through 5 neon files in order to find the constant for package revision |
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[15:09] <jtechidna> apachelogger: testbuildan a kate fix |
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[15:10] <apachelogger> jtechidna: sounds dangerous |
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[15:10] <jtechidna> well, it's a 6-line patch :P |
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[15:11] <apachelogger> well |
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[15:11] <apachelogger> there we have it |
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[15:11] <apachelogger> _patch_ |
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[15:11] <jtechidna> heh |
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[15:11] <apachelogger> !<3 patches |
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[15:11] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3 patches |
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[15:11] <apachelogger> :) |
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[15:11] <jtechidna> !patches |
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[15:11] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patches |
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[15:12] <jtechidna> damn, I know I added something about patches |
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[15:12] <jtechidna> or maybe workarounds... |
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[15:12] <jtechidna> kubotu: facts about patches |
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[15:12] <kubotu> I know nothing about patches |
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[15:12] <apachelogger> kubotu: facts about apachelogger |
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[15:12] <kubotu> [5/6] apachelogger has a batman pyjama. [6/6] "...and apachelogger hates workarounds" |
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[15:13] <nixternal> kubotu: facts about nixternal |
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[15:13] <kubotu> I know nothing about nixternal |
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[15:13] <nixternal> good, lets keep it that way! |
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[15:13] <apachelogger> lol |
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[15:13] <rgreening> kubotu: fact #2 |
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[15:13] <kubotu> fact #2 of 6: rgreening buries head in sand [from smarter!n=smarter@ubuntu/member/smarter on Wed Oct 01 23:27:17 +0300 2008 in #kubuntu-bunker] |
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[15:14] <nixternal> vore: are you going to the pre-party next friday? if so, I need your cell number so I can call you...I am planning on getting to columbus at around 6/7 pm |
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[15:14] <nixternal> and will need someone to drink with besides my buddy kevin :P |
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[15:14] <nixternal> shoot |
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[15:14] <nixternal> vorian: ^^ |
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[15:14] <nixternal> sorry vore |
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[15:15] <nixternal> vore: shoot, you are in tennessee...you going to Ohio Linux Fest next week? :) |
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[15:15] <vorian> holy |
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[15:15] <nixternal> holy what? |
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[15:15] <vorian> nothing |
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[15:16] <vorian> i'm going |
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[15:16] <vorian> I se |
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[15:16] <vorian> e |
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[15:16] <nixternal> what time and where is this pre-party |
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[15:16] <vorian> it's across the street from the conf. center |
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[15:16] <vorian> Barleys |
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[15:16] <vorian> let me get a linky |
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[15:16] <nixternal> groovy, barleys, I have been there before |
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[15:17] <vorian> excellent |
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[15:17] <vorian> i'll pm my cell |
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[15:17] <nixternal> I am ready to drink people pretty |
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[15:17] <nixternal> +1 630 445 3860 is my cell |
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[15:17] * Jucato writes that down |
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[15:17] <nixternal> write it down |
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[15:17] <vorian> 740.253.9040 |
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[15:18] <nixternal> if I see a phone number from 043792479365273475283437828043207672048306752784038042 I will let it go to voice mail :P |
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[15:18] <vorian> haha |
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[15:18] <Jucato> >:) |
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[15:18] <Jucato> you'll only see a number from 1337 :) |
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[15:24] <JontheEchidna> heh, Tooltips even work well with vertical panels: http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Woremar/tooltips2.png |
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[15:27] <Riddell> apachelogger: able to turn up at techboard meeting? (#ubuntu-devel) ? |
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[15:28] <apachelogger> Riddell: yes |
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[15:29] <Riddell> apachelogger: guess that's the thing to do then |
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[15:29] * apachelogger creates a calendar entry |
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[15:43] <apachelogger> Riddell: bug 276588 |
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[15:43] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 276588 in kde4libs "package kdelibs5-dev None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdelibs5-dev.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkjsembed.so', which is also in package libkjsembed-dev" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/276588 |
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[15:44] <Riddell> apachelogger: can you connect to upload.ubuntu.com frp? |
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[15:44] <Riddell> ftp |
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[15:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: no |
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[15:46] <Riddell> mm, sysadmins are moving machines around |
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[15:51] * apachelogger is wondering why kdeartwork includes incompatible icon themes |
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[15:52] <Riddell> apachelogger: because kdeartwork has no maintainer |
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[15:52] <Riddell> I've tried to hint to ruphy he should do it since he effectivly maintains oxygen from a technical view, but he doesn't seem interested |
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[15:52] <apachelogger> Riddell: why does unmaintained stuff get released at all? |
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[15:53] <Riddell> shrug, bits of it are useful, it just needs someone to tidy it up |
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[15:55] <apachelogger> I see |
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[15:57] <apachelogger> Riddell: btw, did you copy 4.1.2 to the members ppa? |
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[15:58] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes |
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[15:58] <apachelogger> Riddell: oh why, but why? :P |
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[15:58] <Riddell> apachelogger: isn't that what needs done? |
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[15:59] <apachelogger> Riddell: yeah, doing it about half an hour before KDE publishes the news is good enough though |
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[16:00] <Riddell> apachelogger: well KDE was going to publish this morning |
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[16:00] <apachelogger> well |
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[16:00] <apachelogger> sebas: did another so* get messed up? ;-) |
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[16:01] <Riddell> germany is on holiday (group hug day). kde falls apart when germany goes on holiday |
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[16:01] <apachelogger> ^_^ |
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[16:01] <apachelogger> rofl |
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[16:02] <davmor2> Riddell: ban him from holidays :P |
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[16:02] <JontheEchidna> kde4libs always takes so long to compile :( |
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[16:04] * apachelogger finds libs pretty fast actually |
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[16:04] <apachelogger> pim and bindings take long |
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[16:04] <Riddell> qt takes longer than anything |
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[16:05] <Riddell> (other than openoffice obviously) |
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[16:06] <apachelogger> talking about qt, do we have 4.4.3 in the archive yet? |
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[16:07] <Riddell> no, rgreening sent it to me but it was waiting for beta freeze and now it's waiting for upload.ubuntu.com |
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[16:07] <Riddell> along with a load of other bits |
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[16:09] <apachelogger> poor qt |
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[16:09] <rgreening> I've been running the 4.4.3 eversince I built it. Works fine here |
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[16:09] * apachelogger screwed up the complete changelogs for 4.1.2 |
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[16:10] <rgreening> Riddell: I assume the kwin branch removal to kdebase-workspace was also uploaded now? |
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[16:10] <JontheEchidna> we could probably backport the fix from trunk even if suse hasn't updated their branch^ |
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[16:11] <apachelogger> that sounds suicidal TBH |
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[16:11] <JontheEchidna> yeah, that patch is HUGE LIEK XBOX |
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[16:12] <Riddell> rgreening: I'm trying an updated version of the patch, but it's also waiting on upload.u.c to reappear |
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[16:13] <jussi01> wow, intrepid is blazing fast compared to hardy kde4... :D |
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[16:13] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: did you fwd the tootip diff to Riddell for inclusion? Real spiffy :) |
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[16:13] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: would you mind reviewing the tooltips patch sometime? http://paste.ubuntu.com/53441/ |
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[16:13] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: ha |
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[16:13] <rgreening> lol |
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[16:13] <rgreening> read my minsd |
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[16:13] <rgreening> s/minsd/mind |
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[16:13] <JontheEchidna> just like when you joined right after I announced working tooltips |
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[16:13] <rgreening> haha |
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[16:13] <rgreening> too funny |
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[16:14] <rgreening> kubotu: order JontheEchidna a Irn Bru |
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[16:14] * kubotu slides jontheechidna a irn bru down the bar to rgreening |
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[16:14] <sebas> apachelogger: no, sysadmin mia ;) |
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[16:14] <rgreening> doh! |
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[16:14] <JontheEchidna> kubotu: help order |
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[16:14] <kubotu> You may also have a look at 'help order goods/machines/replies' ... Placing an order is actually easy as hell. 'order GOOD' => GOOD gets slid down the bar. 'order GOOD for NICK' => GOOD get slid down the bar to NICK. 'order GOOD for everyone' => everyone gets GOOD (in case the good is finite it will end as you place this order). 'order birthday package' => in case you want to make a special birthday present ;-) |
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[16:15] <rgreening> ah |
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[16:15] <rgreening> kubotu: order a Irn Bru for JontheEchidna |
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[16:15] * kubotu slides a irn bru down the bar to JontheEchidna |
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[16:15] <rgreening> better |
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[16:15] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: so did you get the tooltips working on your box? |
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[16:16] <apachelogger> sebas: if KDE had made me sysadmin... :P |
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[16:16] <rgreening> haven't had a chance to dl them. I need to downgrade my version (save rev as yours) to upgrade |
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[16:16] <rgreening> s/save/same |
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[16:16] <JontheEchidna> ah, right |
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[16:17] <apachelogger> seriously |
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[16:17] <apachelogger> oh my picard! |
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[16:18] <apachelogger> sebas: is it me or is the changelog really done manually without using the xml file? |
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[16:18] <sebas> Dunno, it looks buggered |
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[16:18] <apachelogger> that would support my theory |
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[16:19] <sebas> I am with you then |
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[16:19] <sebas> I'm actually glad if it's done at all |
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[16:20] <apachelogger> looks a bit short |
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[16:22] <apachelogger> sebas: maybe we should just tweak carsten's create_changelog script and parse the might commit logs |
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[16:22] * apachelogger drinks yet another cup of awfully cold coffee |
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[16:22] <JontheEchidna> ~order hot coffee for apachelogger |
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[16:22] * kubotu slides hot coffee down the bar to apachelogger |
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[16:23] <apachelogger> hm |
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[16:23] <sebas> apachelogger: not all commits are interesting for the changelog (that's what the .txt links that are broken are there for) |
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[16:23] <apachelogger> I fixed them :P |
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[16:23] * apachelogger fixes all the stuff none else cares about :P |
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[16:23] <apachelogger> sebas: we could introduce new keywords |
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[16:23] <apachelogger> FEATURE: blah |
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[16:23] <sebas> I love you! |
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[16:23] <apachelogger> IMPROVEMENT: blah blah |
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[16:24] <apachelogger> \o/ |
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[16:24] <sebas> Yeah, it should anyway filter out all bugs |
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[16:24] <sebas> That's be useful, those just belong into the changelog no matter what |
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[16:24] <apachelogger> *nod* |
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[16:24] <sebas> Not even if my cat started complaining in chinese right now |
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[16:25] * apachelogger thinks that would be quite hilarious |
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[16:26] <sebas> And quite unreasonable. It's far too lazy to have any say. |
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[16:26] <sebas> And it usually doesn't move it's hairy ass unless it expects food. |
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[16:27] <apachelogger> that reminds me of JontheEchidna :P |
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[16:27] * apachelogger scuttles off |
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[16:27] <JontheEchidna> :P |
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[16:27] <rgreening> oh my |
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[16:28] <JontheEchidna> I guess it's what I get for slacking off on backports |
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[16:29] <JontheEchidna> Arby deserves a medal |
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[16:29] <Arby> he does, for what? |
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[16:29] <JontheEchidna> for doing most of the backports for 4.1.2 |
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[16:30] <Arby> *shrug* if it leaves other people free to do the hard stuff it's all good :) |
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[16:30] <Arby> then I don't have to :) |
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[16:32] <apachelogger> uh |
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[16:32] <apachelogger> I think I fixed neon |
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[16:34] <JontheEchidna> :D |
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[16:34] * JontheEchidna misses his trunky amarok |
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[16:34] <apachelogger> well, it gets more broken every day :P |
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[16:35] <apachelogger> "It's not broken, it's Amarok" |
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[16:35] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: next time you do the release screenshot again |
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[16:36] <JontheEchidna> heh, ok |
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[16:36] <apachelogger> if http://www.kubuntu.org/system/files/kde4_1_2.png was any more blurry it would count as modern art |
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[16:39] <JontheEchidna> bah, where did my sound go |
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[16:41] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: with germany on group hug day? |
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[16:41] <JontheEchidna> probably |
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[16:47] <apachelogger> right |
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[16:47] <apachelogger> Riddell: please approve kgrubeditor |
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[16:48] <Riddell> apachelogger: that's on my todo list :) |
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[16:48] <Riddell> apachelogger: remind me again the rationale |
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[16:48] <Riddell> we currently have an unstable version and it's stable? |
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[16:48] <apachelogger> Riddell: the version we have is undstable compared with the new one |
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[16:48] <apachelogger> Artemis_Fowl: fixed a couple of bugs |
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[16:49] <apachelogger> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/53472/ |
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[16:50] <Artemis_Fowl> yep, and one of the bugs was kind of important since it caused a crash upon launching kgrubeditor |
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[16:54] <Riddell> ta da http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2 |
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[16:56] <smarter> :) |
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[16:56] <smarter> "Submitted on Wed, 2008-10-01" |
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[16:56] <smarter> publication date would be more appropriate :P |
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[16:57] <Riddell> thanks to whoever submitted it |
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[16:58] * apachelogger fixed the date and removed the reference to kde.org since it still says embargo :P |
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[16:59] <Riddell> thanks |
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[16:59] <apachelogger> sebas: fixed the changelog |
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[17:00] <rgreening> nice :P |
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[17:00] * Arby applauds the release and heads for the pub to celebrate |
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[17:00] <Arby> and because it's 5pm on a friday :) |
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[17:05] <rgreening> only 1:30here... |
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[17:05] * rgreening sneaks a drink under the desk |
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[17:05] <JontheEchidna> 12:05pm |
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[17:09] <apachelogger> 18:09 |
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[17:09] <apachelogger> ~time |
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[17:09] <apachelogger> hm |
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[17:10] <JontheEchidna> Holy crap: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18156365/iconsallwrong.png |
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[17:10] <JontheEchidna> bug 277458 |
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[17:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 277458 in ubuntu "intrepid kde4 icons are all screwed up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277458 |
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[17:12] <jussi01> err, that looks like when I used crystal icons on hardy... |
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[17:13] <rgreening> yep. wonder if they simply change the icon theme instead of deleting will it fix it. |
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[17:13] <apachelogger> ~time |
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[17:13] <kubotu> apachelogger: Europe - Vienna - Fri Oct 03 18:13 CEST |
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[17:13] <rgreening> ~time |
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[17:13] <kubotu> rgreening: use time set <Continent/City> to set your timezone. |
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[17:14] <rgreening> time set America/St_Johns |
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[17:14] <rgreening> doh |
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[17:14] <apachelogger> ~ |
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[17:14] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: we can't do anything about it really |
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[17:14] <rgreening> ~time set America/St_Johns |
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[17:14] <kubotu> Ok, I'll remember that rgreening is on the America/St_Johns timezone |
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[17:14] <rgreening> ~time |
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[17:14] <kubotu> rgreening: America - St Johns - Fri Oct 03 13:44 NDT |
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[17:14] <rgreening> whee |
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[17:15] <JontheEchidna> ~time set America/New_York |
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[17:15] <kubotu> Ok, I'll remember that JontheEchidna is on the America/New_York timezone |
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[17:15] <apachelogger> Riddell: if we set the icon theme in etc/kde4/kdeglobals would the user still be able to change it? |
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[17:15] <JontheEchidna> ~time |
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[17:15] <kubotu> JontheEchidna: America - New York - Fri Oct 03 12:15 EDT |
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[17:16] <apachelogger> btw |
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[17:16] <apachelogger> ~time rgreening |
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[17:16] <kubotu> America - St Johns - Fri Oct 03 13:46 NDT |
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[17:16] <apachelogger> very useful :) |
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[17:17] <rgreening> yeah. I agre. It's easy to foget we are all in diff tz's |
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[17:17] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes |
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[17:17] <smarter> ~time set Europe/France |
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[17:17] <kubotu> Europe/France is an invalid timezone. Format is Continent/City or a two character country code. |
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[17:17] <smarter> ~time set Europe/Paris |
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[17:17] <kubotu> Ok, I'll remember that smarter is on the Europe/Paris timezone |
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[17:18] <apachelogger> Riddell: oh, that wouldn't help anyway :S the user already set a configured scheme so it would override etc in any case |
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[17:19] <rgreening> smarter: what part of Paris? I stayed at the Tour d'Eiffel Hotel on my vacation (July 3rd) this year. |
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[17:19] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: the problem is that we can't use kconf_update to drain the setting from kdeglobals due to /etc/kde4/kdeglobals which for some reason gets higher priority |
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[17:19] <apachelogger> the only solution would be to do it in postinst of kdelibs5 |
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[17:19] <smarter> rgreening: I don't live in Paris, just in France and there's only one timezone :) |
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[17:20] <apachelogger> i.e. sed $HOMEs |
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[17:20] <rgreening> oh... hrm |
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[17:20] <smarter> rgreening: https://launchpad.net/~smarter to see where I live :) |
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[17:20] <smarter> rgreening: also, it's Tour Eiffel, no "d'" here :P |
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[17:20] <apachelogger> almost ch isn't it? |
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[17:20] * apachelogger clicks |
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[17:20] <smarter> apachelogger: yup |
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[17:20] <smarter> at the border |
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[17:20] <apachelogger> ch ain't got good beer :P |
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[17:20] <rgreening> smarter: my French is tres Horrible, non? |
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[17:21] <smarter> ;) |
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[17:21] <apachelogger> si |
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[17:21] <apachelogger> oh, that was italian |
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[17:21] <smarter> you spellt these two words right, that's not bad (: |
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[17:21] <smarter> apachelogger: actually, si exists in french |
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[17:21] <apachelogger> well |
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[17:21] <apachelogger> it wouldn't make any sense here, would it? |
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[17:22] <smarter> yes it does :P |
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[17:22] <smarter> when someone asks a negative questions, you answer "si" instead of "oui" |
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[17:22] <smarter> hmm, no it doesn't make any sense here, I'm just being stupid ^^' |
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[17:22] <apachelogger> exactly |
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[17:23] <smarter> anyway, even if they don't have good beer, swiss have good chocolate :) |
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[17:23] <apachelogger> jussi01: btw, I could have installed my own ruby as well :P |
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[17:23] <rgreening> and milk maids |
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[17:23] * apachelogger currently overrides system ruby with 2 plugins |
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[17:24] <jussi01> apachelogger: cool, I dont mind, there is plenty of space :) |
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[17:24] <apachelogger> smarter: belgium got better chocolate :P |
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[17:24] <apachelogger> jussi01: I think I am too lazy though ;-) |
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[17:24] <apachelogger> besides, that is going to end up like on kollide |
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[17:25] <apachelogger> I have half a system in my home there |
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[17:25] <apachelogger> bloody gentoo isn't usable gentoo ;-) |
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[17:26] * tanderson notices the gentoo highlight |
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[17:26] <apachelogger> haha |
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[17:26] <apachelogger> tanderson: is there any way to make gentoo usable for servers? |
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[17:26] <tanderson> apachelogger: sure, I use it on one myself |
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[17:27] <apachelogger> probably our admin's fault then |
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[17:27] <apachelogger> stuff breaks all the time |
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[17:27] <tanderson> oh yeah, it's easy break if you're not careful |
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[17:27] <apachelogger> *nod* |
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[17:30] * apachelogger scuttles over to xubuntu-devel for coffee |
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[17:52] <NCommander> hey apachelogger |
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[17:52] <apachelogger> ahoy NCommander |
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[17:53] <NCommander> apachelogger, I like your core dev application ;-) |
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[17:53] <apachelogger> :) |
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[17:54] <Riddell> hmm? |
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[17:55] <NCommander> Riddell, apachelogger wrote his application as a ... er ... well, application :-) |
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[17:56] <Riddell> oh yes, genius that was |
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[17:56] <NCommander> I'll have to think of something to out do him for my application :-) |
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[17:57] <seele> have there been any reports of people having trouble upgrading to beta from the kde4 remix? |
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[17:57] <seele> i dont see any comments on the feedback page, but had two people ask me about it |
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[17:57] <JontheEchidna> I think there were some |
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[17:57] <Riddell> seele: I had trouble if that counts :) |
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[17:58] <Riddell> but that was only from the alternate CD |
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[17:58] <seele> Riddell: if *you* had trouble then we'er doomed |
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[17:58] <Riddell> through internet was fine |
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[17:58] <apachelogger> NCommander: good luck with that :P |
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[17:58] <Riddell> NCommander: write it in python. that's much more sensible :) |
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[17:58] <NCommander> OOOH |
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[17:58] * NCommander will write it in x86 asm |
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[18:00] <seele> hmm.. i guess i can try a hardy remix upgrade after work tonight |
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[18:00] <apachelogger> Riddell: ruby! :P |
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[18:01] * apachelogger finds that changelog parser carsten wrote quite confusing |
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[18:03] <NCommander> apachelogger, what did you write your application in anyway? |
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[18:04] <apachelogger> NCommander: C++/Qt |
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[18:09] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Tooltips works great here. I think for some users this will be a real boost for Kubuntu Intrepid. |
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[18:10] <ScottK> rgreening: Thanks for your help on it too. |
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[18:10] <ScottK> Riddell: Thumbs up from me for JontheEchidna's task bar tooltip change. |
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[18:10] <rgreening> np. I had a small part. this patch will seperate us from some of the others... |
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[18:11] <rgreening> too bad we can't backport the updated systray. |
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[18:11] <rgreening> or can we... |
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[18:11] <Riddell> ScottK: groovy, working for me too, I'll upload shortly |
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[18:11] <ScottK> Don't go too far ... |
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[18:11] <ScottK> Great. |
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[18:11] <rgreening> :P |
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[18:11] <Riddell> rgreening: probably not, but what's updated in it? |
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[18:12] <rgreening> Riddell: the transparancy issue is fixed AFAIK |
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[18:12] <rgreening> quite annoying atm |
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[18:12] <Riddell> rgreening: uploading kdegraphics |
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[18:12] <rgreening> cool |
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[18:13] <rgreening> Riddell: and how goes the kdebase-workspace testing on the updated kwin branch patch |
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[18:13] <Riddell> rgreening: working well here |
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[18:13] <rgreening> awesome. another boost for Kubuntu |
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[18:14] <Riddell> just need to edit .install files so we get than all important cube effect installed |
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[18:14] <rgreening> kool |
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[18:14] <JontheEchidna> oh, so that's why I couldn't find it :P |
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[18:15] <rgreening> lol |
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[18:15] <JontheEchidna> probably why the desktop switching effect combobox was empty |
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[18:15] <rgreening> ah.. could be |
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[18:15] <rgreening> though.... |
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[18:15] <rgreening> that's a moc thing and should still be generated |
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[18:15] <rgreening> i believe |
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[18:16] * rgreening is learning to write plasmoids... |
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[18:16] <JontheEchidna> anybody working on anything kde4libs related? I'm probably going to have a kde4libs update that will need sponsored |
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[18:16] <JontheEchidna> (Bug 277258) |
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[18:16] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 277258 in kde4libs "Kate KDE4.1 scrolling with the mouse on the scroll bar moves the bar but not the text" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277258 |
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[18:19] <JontheEchidna> Still might be a while before it's all built |
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[18:21] <rgreening> Riddell: you uploading my changes for qt 4.4.3 as well... |
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[18:21] <Riddell> rgreening: yep |
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[18:22] <rgreening> cool... |
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[18:22] <Riddell> 100MB upload, wonder how long that'll take |
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[18:22] <rgreening> Is there an easy way to downgrade from local installed packages and prefer those in a repo (older version #'s). |
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[18:23] <Riddell> apt pinning maybe, it's fiddly as I mind |
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[18:23] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: if you still have old debs in /etc/apt/archive you could dpkg those |
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[18:24] <JontheEchidna> then apt-get update to the ones in the ppa |
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[18:24] <JontheEchidna> er |
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[18:24] <JontheEchidna> /var/cache/apt/archive |
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[18:25] <rgreening> that's what I have been doing. Just though there may have been a easier way. I think the pin is similar to Gentoo's masking. I may give that a shot. |
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[18:27] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: btw, didja get my adept sidebar patch? ;D |
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[18:28] <JontheEchidna> By the time Intrepid is released Riddell will have patches coming out his ears |
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[18:31] <apachelogger> *nod* |
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[18:31] <apachelogger> oh |
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[18:31] <apachelogger> awesome |
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[18:31] <apachelogger> sebas: basic commit log parsing works |
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[18:31] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: yes, also on today's todo list |
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[18:31] <JontheEchidna> nice, thanks. :) |
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[18:33] <jjesse> is there a reason i keep getting notification of incomplete lanague support of english? and when i can't select english because it is greyed out |
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[18:35] <Riddell> jjesse: it's a beastie |
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[18:35] <jjesse> oh? |
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[18:36] <Riddell> we'll fix i |
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[18:36] <Riddell> we'll fix it |
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[18:37] <jjesse> i'm sure you were,just wondered if it was something ive done to my system |
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[18:37] <Riddell> no |
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[18:38] * ScottK had to manually change the selected mixer in kmix to get mute/volume control to work (it worked in Hardy without intervention) from 'pcm' to 'front'. Bug or just something people have to change sometimes? |
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[18:40] <JontheEchidna> hmm, it's set to pcm here but volume control works for me. (I has no mute keyboard button) |
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[18:41] <ScottK> Mute keyboard button works as well as clicking on kmix. Volume keys show the volume, but won't change it. Kmix slider works fine. |
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[18:45] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: sidebar patch? |
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[18:45] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: look at Okular's sidebar and then look at Adept's |
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[18:46] <JontheEchidna> Adept uses Okular's sidebar code, but Adept's copy is from KDE 4.0 and looks somewhat crappy |
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[18:47] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: adept 3 looks crappy in general (IMO) |
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[18:47] * rgreening liked the old adept... |
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[18:48] <JontheEchidna> old adept was slow and crashy |
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[18:48] <JontheEchidna> Quick and un-crashy is my favorite adept3 feature |
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[18:49] <rgreening> I never had a hitch with old one... lucky I guess. |
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[18:49] <JontheEchidna> Plus we got to close 75% of our Adept bugs because of Adept3 |
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[18:49] <rgreening> lol |
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[18:50] <JontheEchidna> The biggest peeve with Adept3 I have is it's searching |
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[18:50] <JontheEchidna> *its |
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[18:50] <rgreening> I hate the missing icons in adept. all the '?' icons drives me nutz |
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[18:51] * JontheEchidna never uses adept installer |
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[18:51] <rgreening> I'd rather see no icon thant the '?'... |
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[18:51] <rgreening> I should add a patch to show no icon rather than the '?' |
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[18:52] <rgreening> the '?' makes me think it's broken... at least that's what general users will likely think. |
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[18:53] <rgreening> anyone else think so? |
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[18:53] <JontheEchidna> there's a bug about that actually |
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[18:53] <JontheEchidna> from adept2 |
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[18:53] <JontheEchidna> which we couldn't close, hehe |
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[18:53] <rgreening> hmm... got the bug #. |
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[18:53] <NCommander> Riddell, mind doing me a favor in a little big |
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[18:53] <rgreening> I may try and tackle it |
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[18:55] <NCommander> What does APT stand for specifically |
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[18:55] <NCommander> Advanced Packaging Tool, right? |
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[18:55] <NCommander> (or Package) |
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[18:57] <asfak> since last 3-4 days i am unable to drag gnome apps (synaptic, firefox) from kicker to desktop. |
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[18:57] <ScottK> NCommander: You could always work on Bug 56125 |
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[18:57] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 56125 in apt "apt-get moo doesnt look like a cow" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56125 |
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[18:58] <NCommander> ScottK, rofl, I'm writing a manpage for adept |
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[18:58] * NCommander has had that on his todo list for awhile |
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[18:58] <ScottK> Great. |
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[18:59] <NCommander> persia gave me some pointers and tools to help me get started on writing a manpage |
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[18:59] <ScottK> rgreening: If you're going to work on Adept, would you consider seeing if it's feasible to get back the 'show details' option in the udpdater? |
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[19:00] <NCommander> But I've never written one from scratch, so I'm looking for a second pair of eyes to look it over |
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[19:00] <rgreening> Scottk,NCommander: http://polishlinux.org/apps/cli/ascii-art-fun-cowsay-and-figlet/ |
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[19:00] <rgreening> a good cow |
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[19:00] <rgreening> :) |
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[19:00] * NCommander perfers aptitude -vvvvvvv moo |
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[19:00] <ScottK> rgreening: The only good cow is cooking on my grill. |
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[19:00] * NCommander wants to try using a flamethrower on his side of beef |
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[19:00] <rgreening> lol |
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[19:00] <JontheEchidna> ScottK, rgreening: I believe Scott's talking about bug 275219 |
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[19:00] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 275219 in adeptmgr "(Kubuntu Intrepid) In Adept installer, the "more" link shown when you click on an application is non-functional" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/275219 |
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[19:01] <rgreening> I prefer my steaks on High 5 min per side. :) |
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[19:01] <rgreening> and 1 inch thick |
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[19:01] <NCommander> I perfer mine red and rare |
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[19:01] <NCommander> (ground beef however I perfer quite dead) |
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[19:01] <JontheEchidna> I like mine medium |
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[19:01] <ScottK> NCommander: The downside of the flamethrower approach is that if there's any incomplete combustion it ends up tasking like gasoline. |
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[19:02] <NCommander> Hrm |
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[19:02] * ScottK often orders steak "As long as it doesn't walk off the plate, I'll be happy". |
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[19:02] <NCommander> Maybe I should simply use an explosion to tenderize my steak |
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[19:02] * ScottK is not kidding. |
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[19:02] <JontheEchidna> heh |
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[19:02] <NCommander> ScottK, I usually say "Dead, but not so dead I could use it as a tire" |
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[19:03] * JontheEchidna just says "medium please" <.< |
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[19:03] <NCommander> I dunno about you, but if my meat has the consistency of rubber, I'm not happy |
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[19:04] <sebas> apachelogger: yay! |
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[19:05] * NCommander looks at adept's source ot see what command line options it takes |
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[19:06] <rgreening> adept needs a moo option and it should being up a pic with the cation 'Got Kubuntu' (as parody of got milk commercials) |
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[19:07] <NCommander> It seems that adept's --help lies about accepting command line options |
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[19:08] <JontheEchidna> adept takes "installer" and "upgrader" as command lines |
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[19:08] <JontheEchidna> or updater |
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[19:08] <NCommander> Oh, what do those do specifically? |
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[19:08] <JontheEchidna> launch adept in install or updater mode |
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[19:09] <JontheEchidna> install is a more user-friendly frontend for installing and removing applications only |
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[19:09] <JontheEchidna> (no packages) |
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[19:09] <JontheEchidna> updater, well, updates :) |
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[19:09] <NCommander> I'm trying to figure out how best to document that |
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[19:10] <NCommander> installer seems broken for me |
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[19:10] <NCommander> oh wait, just very slow |
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[19:10] * JontheEchidna never uses it aside from testing |
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[19:12] <rgreening> adept; |
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[19:12] <rgreening> Arguments: |
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[19:12] <rgreening> command Command |
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[19:12] <rgreening> lol.. great help |
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[19:17] <rgreening> adept doesn't document those commands ... missing feature |
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[19:18] <JontheEchidna> I'm sure mornfall would appreciate patches for stuff like that |
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[19:18] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: that's what I was thinking on doing... |
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[19:22] <NCommander> JontheEchidna, are you willing to look over my manpage? |
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[19:22] <JontheEchidna> sure |
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[19:23] <NCommander> JontheEchidna, http://paste.ubuntu.com/53510/ |
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[19:25] <JontheEchidna> I'd change "Launchs adept in updater more which is a streamlined interface for handling updating the system." to "Launches adept in updater mode which offers a streamlined interface for handling package updates" |
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[19:25] <JontheEchidna> more -> mode in any case |
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[19:25] <JontheEchidna> other than that, lookin' good |
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[19:28] <NCommander> \o/! |
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[19:28] <NCommander> JontheEchidna, do you work on adept in Debian? |
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[19:28] <JontheEchidna> nope |
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[19:28] <JontheEchidna> I don't really do anything in Debian tbh |
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[19:29] <NCommander> v.v |
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[19:29] <JontheEchidna> <.< |
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[19:29] <NCommander> ^.6 |
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[19:29] <NCommander> argh |
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[19:29] <NCommander> so much for IRC DDR |
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[19:34] <NCommander> Riddell, care to sponsor an upload giving adept a manpage? |
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[19:35] <Riddell> NCommander: can do yes |
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[19:35] <NCommander> \o/ |
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[19:35] <rgreening> NCommander/Riddell: I am also workng on adding the missing help lines to adept. will have debdiff shortly. |
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[19:36] <NCommander> rgreening, if you just want to roll my mainpage into your patch, we could do tat, make it a single upload |
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[19:36] <rgreening> sure. |
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[19:40] <rgreening> sweet. adept help now more helpful |
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[19:41] <NCommander> \o/ |
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[19:41] <rgreening> Riddell: how do we handle the strings for translations? |
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[19:41] <jjesse> rgreening: did you write a help manual for adept? |
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[19:41] <NCommander> rgreening, I forwarded it to Debian so they should benefit from it too |
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[19:41] <NCommander> jjesse, no, I did |
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[19:41] <jjesse> NCommander: really? |
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[19:42] <jjesse> that's awesome, i've had one i'm been working on in a branch but haven't had time to complete it |
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[19:42] <rgreening> jjesse: I added the command line help to adept. |
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[19:42] <jjesse> not a full manual? |
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[19:42] <rgreening> NCommander did the man |
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[19:42] <NCommander> jjesse, no, I wrote a manpage |
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[19:42] <jjesse> oh cool, mind if i borrow from your man page to compete the manual then? |
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[19:43] <jjesse> i would totally credit you |
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[19:43] <NCommander> jjesse, go for it |
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[19:43] * NCommander didn't even take credit in the manpage for writing it :-) |
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[19:45] <Riddell> rgreening: depends on the context |
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[19:45] <rgreening> NCommander... got your e-mail. so, looks like I'll need to integrate it with adept. Did you already do that (i.e. have a diff/debdiff?) |
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[19:45] <NCommander> no |
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[19:45] <NCommander> I just finished writing it |
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[19:46] <Riddell> rgreening: what are the missing help lines? |
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[19:46] <NCommander> If you want me to do that, finish your work, upload, then ping me |
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[19:46] <rgreening> Riddell: see paste here... http://paste.ubuntu.com/53514/ |
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[19:47] <rgreening> NCommander: no problem. Was just curious. |
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[19:47] <rgreening> Riddell: are the strings ok, or do you want to fiddle with them? |
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[19:47] <rgreening> Riddell: there was no command line help in Adept for the installer or updater command lines |
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[19:48] <rgreening> this fixes. tested and verified |
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[19:49] <Riddell> rgreening: that's fine, would be nice if there was a way to say that no command will launch the manager |
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[19:49] * NCommander looks at his RS/6000 |
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[19:49] <rgreening> true. thought about that one. Let me read over main.cpp some more.... |
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[19:50] <Riddell> rgreening: the translations get extracted into a .pot file at build time which gets put into rosetta where people can translate it |
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[19:50] <rgreening> kool. |
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[19:50] <Riddell> normally we wouldn't update strings this late but rosetta doesn't even have many strings imported so it's moot |
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[19:50] <rgreening> and this isn't a showstopper anyway. |
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[19:55] <Riddell> NCommander: where's your patch? |
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[19:58] <NCommander> Riddell, emailed |
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[19:59] * apachelogger notes that he once again managed to create the most bizzare code block |
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[19:59] <rgreening> kubotu: fact #3 |
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[19:59] <kubotu> fact #3 of 6: JontheEchidna needs moar coffeeee [from JontheEchidna!n=jonathan@ubuntu/member/jontheechidna on Wed Oct 01 23:27:52 +0300 2008 in #kubuntu-bunker] |
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[19:59] <rgreening> nope.. wrong fact |
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[19:59] <rgreening> kubotu: fact #4 |
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[19:59] <kubotu> fact #4 of 6: smarter is not smarter [from rgreening!n=rgreenin@pool1.corpnat-toroon.gt.ca on Wed Oct 01 23:28:23 +0300 2008 in #kubuntu-bunker] |
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[20:00] <rgreening> nope.. |
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[20:00] <JontheEchidna> kubotu: facts about rgreening |
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[20:00] <kubotu> [2/6] rgreening buries head in sand |
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[20:00] <rgreening> :) |
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[20:02] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/53517/ \o/ |
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[20:03] <rgreening> Riddell: let me know if this looks good and about the wording: http://paste.ubuntu.com/53518/ |
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[20:03] <Riddell> rgreening: great |
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[20:04] <rgreening> Ok, NCommander sent me the man page. Not sure how to integrate man pages yet... do you want me to send the diff for this now or wait until I get the manpage figured out.. |
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[20:04] * NCommander can wait ;-) |
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[20:05] <JontheEchidna> Riddell, ScottK: bug 277258 needs sponsoring |
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[20:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 277258 in kde4libs "Kate KDE4.1 scrolling with the mouse on the scroll bar moves the bar but not the text" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277258 |
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[20:05] <rgreening> Riddell ^ see my last about the manpage |
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[20:05] * ScottK looks |
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[20:05] <Riddell> rgreening: it depends in what format the manpage is |
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[20:06] <rgreening> hmm... NCommander e-mailed you I believe the same as I got |
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[20:06] <rgreening> Riddell: ^ |
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[20:06] <rgreening> I'll send the debdiff for what I just changed... |
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[20:07] <NCommander> Riddell, raw man :-) |
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[20:07] <NCommander> (aka nroff) |
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[20:08] <Riddell> just needs a debian/manpages file then with the name of the manpage |
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[20:09] <rgreening> oh. ok, I'll test that |
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[20:09] <rgreening> and send with my change. |
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[20:12] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: I'll sponsor it. I had to redo debian/changelog because apachelogger already uploaded ubuntu2. |
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[20:13] <JontheEchidna> oh, and then it merged changelogs |
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[20:13] <JontheEchidna> meh |
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[20:14] <apachelogger> ...if we were using bzr ... and bzr would read debian/changelog before trying to merge ... this stuff wouldn't happen |
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[20:15] <ScottK> apachelogger: No, you'd be sitting there waiting for it to finish updating instead of doing actual work. |
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[20:16] <apachelogger> ... if bzr was written with sensible design and language ... we wouldn't have to be sitting |
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[20:17] <apachelogger> ScottK: It's not like bzr is eating your CPU, is it? |
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[20:17] <ScottK> No, it's the upload/download with LP that takes an eternity. |
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[20:17] <apachelogger> well, I usually do other stuff while bzr is at work, so I barely notice |
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[20:25] <Riddell> ScottK: let me know if your upload gets accepted |
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[20:30] <ScottK> Riddell: Will do. |
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[20:30] <ScottK> Test build is still building ... |
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[20:30] <rgreening> Riddell: I created the manpages dir and put the manpage in a filed named adept. Never built/installed it. missing something? |
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[20:32] <Riddell> should be called adept.1 |
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[20:32] <Riddell> the file should be called manpages and contain one line with the name of the manpage file |
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[20:33] <Riddell> debian/adept.1 |
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[20:33] <Riddell> for example |
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[20:33] <rgreening> ah |
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[20:33] * rgreening slaps his forehead |
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[20:33] <Riddell> man dh_installman |
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[20:33] <rgreening> good to know |
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[20:34] <rgreening> ty |
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[20:46] <rgreening> Riddell: adept diff sent |
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[20:47] <rgreening> ok, offline ofr a few hours. l8r |
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[20:55] <Riddell> apachelogger: hmm, amarok 2 beta doesn't start here |
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[20:55] <Riddell> <unknown program name>(4831)/: Communication problem with "amarok" , it probably crashed. |
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[20:59] <Riddell> JontheEchidna, NCommander: that's the adept upload done |
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[21:00] <JontheEchidna> :D |
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[21:00] <JontheEchidna> Thanks Riddell |
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[21:00] <NCommander> \o\ /o/ |o\ |
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[21:01] <JontheEchidna> |o| <- Tie Fighter |
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[21:02] <Riddell> tooltips are up too incase you missed that |
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[21:08] <smarter> ooh, http://doc.trolltech.com/4.4/ is greener |
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[21:09] <JontheEchidna> Does that mean KDe's new color is green? |
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[21:12] <ScottK> kde4libs is still building and I'm heading out for a while. |
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[22:16] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: are you going to blog about 4.1.2? |
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[22:16] <JontheEchidna> Sure |
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[22:20] <apachelogger> perfect |
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[22:21] * apachelogger stops ruby haxx0ring and goes cuddling |
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[22:22] <ScottK> TMI thank you very much. |
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[22:23] <Riddell> apachelogger: who's getting cuddles? |
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[22:29] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: kde4libs uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. |
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[22:29] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: you're welcome |
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[22:29] <JontheEchidna> way easier to do than tooltips :P |
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[22:30] <ScottK> ;=). |
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[22:30] <ScottK> Yes, well that tooltips one is a huge deal for me, I really appreciate it. |
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[22:34] <ScottK> Riddell: I got accepted mail for my upload. |
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[22:36] <ScottK> Looks like kdegraphics is stuck in New. |
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[22:37] <ScottK> Riddell: Did you upload the kdebase-workspace update with the tooltips change? |
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[22:38] <ScottK> If you did, it looks to me like Soyuz ate it. |
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[23:49] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: workspace finally went through |
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[23:52] <JontheEchidna> Get:27 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main qt4-doc 4.4.3-0ubuntu1 [52.8MB] |
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[23:52] <JontheEchidna> dang, that's big |
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