| [01:19] <ubottu> In ubottu, esac said: !jdk is <reply> jdk is the Java SE Development Kit which includes the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) as well as command-line tools for development of Java applets. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java for installing Java as well as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Development_Kit | |
| [01:33] <elky> ok, should ubottu be opped up to stop the floodbot fighting with it? | |
| [01:34] <esac> cant floodbot just give ubottu an exception ? | |
| [01:40] <elky> it'd be possible, yes. except the maintainer is awol | |
| [01:41] * nickrud wonders when he enlisted :-> | |
| [01:42] <elky> heh | |
| [01:42] <elky> when he accepted the op post :Þ | |
| [01:42] <nickrud> crap | |
| [01:43] <elky> hehe | |
| [01:44] <esac> am i able to add content directly to ubottu or does it have to be approved by an ubuntu-op first ? | |
| [01:44] <nickrud> esac needs review first, too many people were abusing it back when | |
| [01:45] <esac> understood :) | |
| [01:45] <nickrud> esac shorter is better, more likely to get added | |
| [01:46] <elky> not sure about the wikipedia link either | |
| [01:49] <esac> np ill modify when i get back. i though wikipedia links would be liked :) | |
| [01:49] <esac> such a beautiful day, i need to drink beer and grill | |
| [01:51] <nickrud> hm, fried chicken. Maybe a steak. Good idea | |
| [01:53] <elky> considering anyone can change a wikipedia page.... | |
| [02:10] <ubottu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (CTCP/NOTICE) | |
| [02:10] <ubottu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (CTCP/NOTICE) | |
| [04:52] <ubot3> In #ubuntuforums-beginners, m_newton said: !learn lol is lol | |
| [04:59] <esac> and hence thats why we need moderation | |
| [05:03] <elky> yes | |
| [05:03] <elky> and all the people who merely respond to the messages they get sent, not realising it's a bot | |
| [05:07] <m_newton> lol | |
| [06:08] <ubottu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, eboyjr said: !meaningoflife is <reply> The meaning of life is the meaning of ubuntu. | |
| [06:10] <Madpilot> ubottu, meaningoflife is <reply>42. | |
| [06:10] <ubottu> In #ubuntu-ops, Madpilot said: ubottu, meaningoflife is <reply>42. | |
| [06:10] <Madpilot> gah | |
| [06:11] <Madpilot> what's the login proc for this new improved bot? | |
| [06:14] <Hobbsee> ~login | |
| [06:14] <ubot3> login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.18.2-1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 256 kB, installed size 2868 kB | |
| [06:14] <Hobbsee> @login | |
| [06:14] <ubottu> Hobbsee: The operation succeeded. | |
| [06:14] <Hobbsee> ubottu, meaningoflife is <reply>42. | |
| [06:14] <ubottu> I'll remember that, Hobbsee | |
| [06:14] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: ^ | |
| [06:14] <Madpilot> @login | |
| [06:15] <ubottu> Madpilot: The operation succeeded. | |
| [06:15] <Madpilot> silly bot | |
| [06:20] <Hobbsee> hehe | |
| [06:26] <nickrud> crazy brits, think adams is a decent writer | |
| [06:31] <Madpilot> <== not a Brit. Won't dispute the crazy part. | |
| [06:32] <nickrud> bc'ers are displaced brits, I'm from seattle. Seen it ;) | |
| [06:33] <nickrud> I mean, Victoria? High Tea at that quintessential british hotel? | |
| [06:34] <Madpilot> nickrud, quintessential tourist trap, you mean | |
| [06:35] <nickrud> heh. sorta like the space needle | |
| [06:36] <Madpilot> exactly | |
| [06:37] <Madpilot> I'm going to try to get down to Seattle sometime later this year - should ping you for beer and such if you're in the area | |
| [06:37] <nickrud> ah, now I'm in LA. Trying to schedule something with Jack_Sparrow | |
| [06:39] <nickrud> haven't actually lived in seattle since the mid 90's, been steadily rolling down the coast | |
| [06:41] <Madpilot> if you down to LA, you're about to run out of American coastline. How's the Spanish, senor? | |
| [06:45] <nickrud> sucky. Oh, so sucky | |
| [06:45] <nickrud> I am a classic monolingual americano | |
| [07:20] <bazhang> m_newton, how may we help you | |
| [07:24] <bazhang> m_newton, please read the /topic; if you have nothing pressing then please /part | |
| [07:31] <bazhang> !idle > m_newton | |
| [07:31] <ubottu> m_newton, please see my private message | |
| [07:43] <nickrud> http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/08/18/ubuntu-%E2%80%93-why-it-is-wrong-for-america.aspx#comments | |
| [07:48] <elky> wow, they got a really good photo of mneptok: http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/10000200000001900000013599b0e8a1.png | |
| [07:48] * bazhang wonders who the extra idlers are | |
| [07:50] <ubottu> In ubottu, raitann said: what is the best network manager | |
| [07:50] <ubottu> In ubottu, raitann said: x is the best y | |
| [07:50] <elky> esac, m_newton, we like to keep this channel relatively clear of idlers. thanks. | |
| [07:51] <ubottu> In ubottu, raitann said: what is the best network manager? | |
| [07:55] <bazhang> Eleaf is back in #ubuntu | |
| [07:56] <bazhang> elky, ^^ | |
| [07:56] <elky> bazhang, yes, we're giving him a chance to earn another holiday | |
| [07:57] <bazhang> okay elky | |
| [08:28] * jussi01 wakes up | |
| [10:32] <ompaul> !whoami | |
| [10:32] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whoami | |
| [10:32] <ompaul> @login | |
| [10:32] <ubottu> ompaul: The operation succeeded. | |
| [10:54] <kahrytan> may I have my ban on #ubuntu-offtopic lifted, please? | |
| [11:03] <Jack_Sparrow> were you using another nick? | |
| [11:04] <kahrytan> no, Jack_Sparrow | |
| [11:04] <Jack_Sparrow> When were you banned? | |
| [11:05] <kahrytan> #ubuntu-offtopic Banlist: Thu Jun 12 05:01:18 *!kahrytan@* douglas.freenode.net | |
| [11:06] <kahrytan> that was sooner then that. | |
| [11:06] <kahrytan> oh wait, thats right. that was a ban due to a compliant filed. | |
| [11:09] <PriceChild> kahrytan: why do you want the ban lifted? | |
| [11:10] <Jack_Sparrow> PriceChild thanks for taking over on this.. | |
| [11:10] <kahrytan> PriceChild, If you are worried i would go back in there, I wouldn't. But If I have to due to help in #ubuntu going offtopic, i can at least have option to following the rules. | |
| [11:12] <PriceChild> kahrytan: could you reword that please? I'm confused. | |
| [11:14] <kahrytan> PriceChild, i have no desire to rejoin -offtopic community. But I would like it removed so when I am in #ubuntu and help goes -offtopic, i can take it to -offtopic like the rules say. Additionally, i just like to see it removed so I know its not lifetime ban and I have option to rejoining if I wanted too. | |
| [11:16] <Jack_Sparrow> kahrytan have you been kicked and or banned in ubuntu as well in the past | |
| [11:17] <kahrytan> Jack_Sparrow, i think PC is aware of that. | |
| [11:24] <kahrytan> PriceChild, So, the decision? | |
| [11:30] <Myrtti> good morning | |
| [11:31] <kahrytan> Aloha. Myrtti | |
| [11:35] <PriceChild> kahrytan: I wouldn't like to make a decision on my own, its not my ban etc. We can see what others think. I don't however think this is a pressing issue, -offtopic is not a required channel for any part of contributing in the Ubuntu community, and there are plenty of other offtopic channels out there on the network. | |
| [11:36] <kahrytan> there is one more thing .... You might consider removing one of emma's bans. There is two in the list. | |
| [11:36] <PriceChild> Something to keep in mind as right now for example I have to run for a little. | |
| [11:36] <PriceChild> kahrytan: in -offtopic's? | |
| [11:37] <kahrytan> yes | |
| [11:37] <kahrytan> i notced shes there twice | |
| [11:38] <kahrytan> she has a cloak now too | |
| [11:38] <PriceChild> kahrytan: I don't think that is anything to concern you to be blatantly honest. We're in pretty regular contact with emma, and things are going well. | |
| [11:39] <kahrytan> PriceChild, you will be talking to the council arent you? | |
| [11:39] <PriceChild> kahrytan: pardon? | |
| [11:41] <kahrytan> PriceChild, by others, you mean the council | |
| [11:41] <jussi01> Afternoon all | |
| [11:42] <PriceChild> kahrytan: although the decision will more than likely rest with them, I want to see what others (by which I mean everyone) thinks. | |
| [11:42] <PriceChild> Hey jussi01. | |
| [11:44] <PriceChild> kahrytan: I'm going afk for a little, will reply if I find anything left for me when I return. | |
| [11:47] <bazhang> he was recommending linux mint in main channel the other day. | |
| [11:54] <elky> for what reason? | |
| [12:00] <Myrtti> merh | |
| [12:00] <Jack_Sparrow> elky bazhang please review comment in channel awhile back ... I removed him after more comments in pm, but would like your opinion about this | |
| [12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> trask | |
| [12:01] <Myrtti> I still get my teeth on edge whenever that indian feller in -ot sir's or ma'ams people | |
| [12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> grep ubuntusatanic from our logs | |
| [12:02] <elky> Myrtti, yeah, i know | |
| [12:03] <Myrtti> Jack_Sparrow: what about ubuntu satanic? | |
| [12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> I removed trask as he felt that it was suitable topic in ubuntu | |
| [12:04] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntusatanic was the start of the problem/discussion | |
| [12:04] <Myrtti> oh, right | |
| [12:04] <Jack_Sparrow> trask and jeeves__ | |
| [12:23] <Myrtti> there's nothing wrong per se about Ubuntu SE (apart that it's a bit offtopic for #ubuntu), but the discussion after it was most definitely not suitable | |
| [12:24] <Myrtti> oh doodah | |
| [12:25] <Myrtti> I've misplaced my phone and am afraid to move in case I'd drop it | |
| [12:25] <Myrtti> >___< | |
| [12:25] <Myrtti> ha, there it was, on the edge... | |
| [12:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Atta girl.living on the edge | |
| [13:01] <ubottu> In #ubuntu, Vixus said: Ubottu's !dvd hint is useless. | |
| [13:03] <Myrtti> !dvd | |
| [13:03] <ubottu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs | |
| [13:34] <jussi01> right... | |
| [13:45] <Hobbsee> i've spoken with kahrytan about how he should not confuse people by using the wrong terminology. | |
| [13:45] <Hobbsee> if the situation in +1 happens again (or -devel), please act appropriately there. | |
| [13:45] <Hobbsee> (he's had his warning, and appears to be doing it because he can't be bothered to use the correct terminology) | |
| [13:54] <elky> heh | |
| [14:39] <ompaul> well it appears that kahrytan is banned from -offtopic and I can't see the ban | |
| [14:39] <ompaul> which begs the question is it an akick | |
| [14:39] <Hobbsee> +d? | |
| [14:40] <ompaul> perhaps | |
| [14:40] <ompaul> PriceChild, ^^ is that to be lifted? | |
| [14:40] <Hobbsee> it's ident and nick, it looks like. | |
| [14:40] <ompaul> if it is that | |
| [14:40] * ompaul goes to look again | |
| [14:42] <PriceChild> ompaul: I don't know, would rather not choose myself. | |
| [14:43] <ompaul> well he told me he is against the GPL, not oss so I have to figure he is trolling me | |
| [14:43] <ompaul> and I can't deal with that | |
| [14:44] <Hobbsee> he was looking to licence his stuff under the bsd licence, so i doubt he's against open source. | |
| [14:44] <Hobbsee> because it's more free and open | |
| [14:44] <ompaul> say some | |
| [14:45] <ompaul> and then say other | |
| [14:45] <ompaul> s | |
| [14:46] <Myrtti> opinions are like farts - everyone has them and they all smell bad alike | |
| [14:46] <bazhang> his logic for being reinstated is kinda weird though | |
| [14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> PriceChild kahrytan has been anything but a model citizen in our community of Uubntu as well | |
| [14:46] <PriceChild> He's found the bsd license which e agrees with | |
| [14:47] <PriceChild> ompaul: ^ | |
| [14:47] <ompaul> Myrtti, and you can just about stand your own :P | |
| [14:48] <Myrtti> exactly | |
| [14:48] <ompaul> frankly I am going to push him here to be dealt with - cos I no longer have interest - as I feel a conflict of interest is there | |
| [14:48] <Hobbsee> ompaul: for you to unban him from -offtopic? | |
| [14:48] * Hobbsee thought the CC was supposed to deal with it, anyway. | |
| [14:49] <ompaul> yeap well he is in #ubuntu is he not? | |
| [14:49] <ompaul> I have asked him to put me on /ignore ;-) | |
| [14:49] <Hobbsee> he's in +1 too, but i fail to see how that's relevant? | |
| [14:54] <ompaul> I thought he was banned globally from many channels, where the ircc had control but obviously I am missing something | |
| [15:00] <Hobbsee> ompaul: you might try asking for a list of ircc decisions that are in effect, added to the wiki or something, to attempt to reduce confusion. i'm unsure of the specifics | |
| [15:01] <ompaul> Hobbsee, good idea | |
| [15:01] <PriceChild> I don't "think" we made any decisions with kahrytan? He was just banned in places and complained to the CC? | |
| [15:01] <ompaul> ahh | |
| [15:01] <ompaul> well | |
| [15:01] <Hobbsee> wasn't that months ago? | |
| [15:01] <PriceChild> yep | |
| [15:02] <ompaul> PriceChild, go check this out if you want to waste some time in a good way :) http://www.linuxelectrons.com/news/linux/16774/greg-kroah-hartman-linux-kernel | |
| [15:02] <Hobbsee> so, why hasn't anything happened yet? | |
| [15:03] <ompaul> cos the there was no decision afik | |
| [15:03] <ompaul> thats a howl | |
| [15:03] <ompaul> thats a howl | |
| [15:03] <ompaul> * Hobbsee has quit ("Coyote finally caught me") | |
| [15:03] <PriceChild> I think the end result was that we didn't need to make a decision. | |
| [15:03] <Hobbsee> heh | |
| [15:09] <ubottu> IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (redbull) | |
| [15:12] <Myrtti> redbull is working himself to be banned, I banned him yesterday once | |
| [15:20] <bazhang> esac m_newton please dont idle. | |
| [15:23] <bazhang> !idle | esac m_newton | |
| [15:23] <ubottu> esac m_newton: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. | |
| [15:25] <Tm_T> ompaul: err, that page is interesting, no background color defined though style needs white | |
| [15:26] <ompaul> Tm_T, complain to the devs file a bug ;-) | |
| [15:28] <Tm_T> ompaul: perhaps ;) | |
| [15:28] <ompaul> the system they use should never have let that happen | |
| [15:28] <Tm_T> ompaul: just very typical "design flaw" for me to see, using dark back and light colors | |
| [15:40] <m_newton> bazhang, srry, i was gone... I got to go now to... Sry for idoling | |
| [15:40] * m_newton is away: loligaging at the wee hours of nite; just to say hi to all and host my server. | |
| [15:40] <bazhang> m_newton, please /part | |
| [15:44] <jussi01> got sick of everyone asking... | |
| [15:44] <bazhang> esac still remains :) | |
| [15:45] <bazhang> its no nevermind to me btw | |
| [15:46] <jussi01> I love ppa's on a sunday - no build queues :D | |
| [15:48] * Hobbsee loves having power to reprio builds. | |
| [15:49] <Myrtti> merh | |
| [15:54] <jussi01> Hobbsee: shut up... | |
| [15:54] <jussi01> :P | |
| [15:59] <Tm_T> hmmmm | |
| [16:00] <Tm_T> ompaul: "...so Canonical doesn't give back to community" interesting statement, perhaps pr etc etc isn't "giving back" ;) | |
| [16:01] <ompaul> Tm_T, that is GKH but I will defend canonical with the phrase lies damn lies and statistics ;-) | |
| [16:01] <ompaul> and note what I said there ;-) | |
| [16:02] <Tm_T> ompaul: yup :) | |
| [17:04] <bazhang> <CWii> Nimblefinger, Wireless is hit or miss. | |
| [17:05] <Pici> meh | |
| [17:05] <bazhang> robg come to life again | |
| [17:05] <bazhang> his answer is google it for most everything. | |
| [17:10] <bazhang> neo_the_user was unbanned? | |
| [17:11] <Pici> @btlogin | |
| [17:12] <Pici> Looks like it | |
| [17:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Not by me.. I hope.. | |
| [17:13] <Jack_Sparrow> FYI I just buried Hardy | |
| [17:17] <nalioth> bazhang: is neo_the_user being troublesome? | |
| [17:18] <bazhang> nalioth, he quit; moderately offtopic before that though | |
| [17:19] <bazhang> am more concerned about CWii at this point | |
| [18:16] * Myrtti waves her plate full of mushrooms filled with Mustapekka cheese wrapped in bacon under jussi01's nose | |
| [18:18] <Myrtti> ommmm nommmmm nommmmm | |
| [18:23] <Tm_T> hmm | |
| [18:26] * jussi01 sadly eats his billy's pizza... | |
| [18:27] <Nafallo> ...yea, cause I obviously wasn't hungry enough already :-P | |
| [18:27] * Nafallo /ignores IRC for a bit ;-) | |
| [18:28] <Myrtti> LOL | |
| [18:29] <Myrtti> at least I didn't take pictures and put them into Flickr _this_ time | |
| [18:29] * Myrtti snickers | |
| [18:32] <TheSheep> food? | |
| [18:33] * jussi01 eats TheSheep | |
| [18:36] <Myrtti> jussi01: the Finnish way? | |
| [18:37] <jussi01> huh? | |
| [18:39] <Myrtti> Rosvopaisti | |
| [18:39] <Myrtti> (cattle thief way of cooking meat) | |
| [18:40] <jussi01> no idea... | |
| [18:40] <jussi01> picture? | |
| [18:41] <Myrtti> dig a hole, put rocks in the bottom, build a fire, let it burn to coals, dig some of the hot rocks out, wrap the meat into tinfoil / baking paper / wet newspaper or what ever you got, put in the hole, toss the hot rocks on top, bury with the sand, keep buried for 12 - 24 hrs | |
| [18:42] <Myrtti> makes excellent MUTTON and chicken | |
| [18:42] <Myrtti> :-P | |
| [18:56] <jussi01> Myrtti: too long a cook time... | |
| [19:00] <Myrtti> true, but works great on also not so tender meat ;-) | |
| [19:00] * Myrtti pokes TheSheep | |
| [19:04] <ubottu> SeveredCross called the ops in #ubuntu () | |
| [19:05] <jussi01> yay for idiots... | |
| [19:05] <Myrtti> indeed | |
| [19:05] <nickrud> malice is not idiotic, but evil | |
| [19:06] * jussi01 disagrees - its both | |
| [19:07] <jussi01> idiotic because all it gets him is a ban... | |
| [19:12] <nickrud> could care less about him, and he probably didn't care (malicious people are the prime ban evaders anyway) | |
| [19:12] <nickrud> I would expect that is | |
| [20:04] * Myrtti sighs | |
| [20:15] <jussi01> someone who is an -offtopic op should have a peek in there... at certain links... | |
| [20:15] * Myrtti looks | |
| [20:17] <PriceChild> uuu I heard the best song lyric today | |
| [20:17] <PriceChild> "every squirrel has a pearl of wisdom" | |
| [20:17] <jussi01> rofl PriceChild what kind of song was that? | |
| [20:18] * ompaul looks at PriceChild | |
| [20:18] <PriceChild> it was on kerrang | |
| [20:18] <ompaul> should I search for that lyric | |
| [20:18] <jussi01> kerrrang? | |
| [20:18] <PriceChild> oh wait sorry | |
| [20:18] <PriceChild> "ever squirrel shares a pearl of wisdom" | |
| [20:19] <jussi01> TORRRREEEESSSSS | |
| [20:19] <jussi01> oh, sorry.... :D | |
| [20:19] <Myrtti> jussi01: enjoying my dvb-t tuner? | |
| [20:19] * Myrtti sings to Eagles | |
| [20:19] <jussi01> Myrtti: nah, Im watching it on the 32" tele :D | |
| [20:19] <Myrtti> bourgeois | |
| [20:20] <jussi01> but the tuner has been _fantastic_ | |
| [20:20] <Myrtti> great that it works better for you than for me | |
| [20:20] <jussi01> :) | |
| [20:27] * jussi01 waits... | |
| [20:27] <Myrtti> hmm? | |
| [20:27] <jussi01> see #u | |
| [20:28] <ompaul> jussi01, he is dead I killed him | |
| [20:28] <jussi01> I noticed... | |
| [20:28] <jussi01> repeatoffender? | |
| [20:28] <Myrtti> ypu | |
| [20:29] <ompaul> jussi01, well known | |
| [20:29] <jussi01> ahh, understand then | |
| [21:38] <jussi01> :D :D :D | |
| [22:16] <jussi01> someone remind me how to get chanserv into a channel permanently? | |
| [22:16] <jpds> jussi01: /cs help set guard | |
| [22:16] <jussi01> jpds: thanks :D | |
| [22:17] * jpds hugs jussi01 | |
| [22:18] * jussi01 hugs jpds back | |
| [22:18] * Myrtti takes a screenshot | |
| [22:19] * jpds hugs Myrtti quickly for the snap. | |
| [22:48] * Myrtti sighs | |